Speaker 1: Joe Biden called January six the worst attack on democracy
Speaker 1: since the Civil War. The Department of Justice opened a
Speaker 1: new unit specifically to focus on domestic terrorism on the
Speaker 1: anniversary of January six, leading into the midterm elections. This
Speaker 1: was the big narrative, the threats to democracy January six,
Speaker 1: attacking his political opponents, labeling almost seventy five million Americans
Speaker 1: as domestic terrorists. This is what Joe Biden did heading
Speaker 1: into the midterm elections. It was all a lie. The
Speaker 1: narrative was carefully crafted from select footage that was released
Speaker 1: by the media without questions asked. New footage released by
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson given to him by Speaker Kevin McCarthy, over
Speaker 1: forty thousand hours of footage, shows that that narrative was
Speaker 1: a lie. We were lied to about January six. Yes,
Speaker 1: there were bad actors, but by and large it was
Speaker 1: rather peaceful. We were lied to about the qNaN Shaman,
Speaker 1: Jake and Chancelly, who through footage, was actually escorted throughout
Speaker 1: the capital by police. We were lied to about Officer
Speaker 1: Brian Sicknik, and we also know that Ray Epps lied
Speaker 1: to Congress about how long he was at the Capitol.
Speaker 1: Why were we lied to and what do these lies mean?
Speaker 1: Do they change the legal landscape for the people who
Speaker 1: have been charged, the people who have been sent to
Speaker 1: jail over what happened on January six I mean, if
Speaker 1: you really think about it, this false narrative has dramatically
Speaker 1: changed the landscape of our country, the fabric of our country.
Speaker 1: It's appended the rule of law. It has allowed the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice to use tools to target political opponents.
Speaker 1: It's changed the political narrative. It's shaped a narrative or
Speaker 1: half of the country view the other half as domestic terrorists.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Julie Kelly about what all of this means,
Speaker 1: what you need to know about the footage, why it matters,
Speaker 1: and how the Department of Justice has used selective footage
Speaker 1: to target their political opponents. With Julie Kelly, she's a
Speaker 1: senior writer for American Greatness. She's the author of January
Speaker 1: six How Democrats used the Capital Protest to launch a
Speaker 1: war on terror against the political right. She's joined the
Speaker 1: show a couple of times before, and she has fought
Speaker 1: so hard to try to get to the truth of
Speaker 1: what really happened on January sixth, and she joins us next, Well, Julie,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining the show, and thanks for
Speaker 1: really staying on this January stuff more than anyone. You've
Speaker 1: just been audit reporting and trying to get to the truth.
Speaker 1: So thank you for doing that. Well, thank you, Lisa,
Speaker 1: and thanks for helping to cover my work get it
Speaker 1: out to your listeners and your followers on social media.
Speaker 1: I think you know it's been very helpful to get
Speaker 1: my work and coverage out to your audience. So thank
Speaker 1: you well. And it's always important to get to the truth.
Speaker 1: But you know, even more importantly than that, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're saying the world of wall I'll be appended because
Speaker 1: of this, So I mean it's changing our country substantially,
Speaker 1: and so you know, that's why it's so important to
Speaker 1: get the truth out there to talk about all this.
Speaker 1: You know, Julie, we know that speaker Kevin McCarthy released
Speaker 1: over forty thousand hours of footage from January six. He
Speaker 1: gave it to Tucker Carlson. From what you've seen so far,
Speaker 1: what do people need to know about what that new
Speaker 1: footage shows? Well, I just want to back up a
Speaker 1: little bit first. I know there was a lot of
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say outrage, but disappointment that this video was
Speaker 1: first going to be not accessed by Tucker and his team.
Speaker 1: I supported that. I think for the very reason why
Speaker 1: we see the outcomes of what happened. It really had
Speaker 1: to be a surgical strike. It was imperative that the
Speaker 1: zone was not flooded with a bunch of different clips
Speaker 1: from different areas, maybe from people who really don't understand
Speaker 1: how it unfolded that day were to look. So what
Speaker 1: Tucker's team did very effectively is get a few clips
Speaker 1: that contradicted the narrative that created sort of this very
Speaker 1: sympathetic figure Jacob Chanceley, who he has been. I've covered
Speaker 1: Jacob's tragic case since the spring of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and so what people realized, number one, is there were
Speaker 1: a lot of different things happening at different times on
Speaker 1: January sixth, But more importantly, Lisa, that the government, this DOJ,
Speaker 1: with the help of the media, shockingly has concealed so
Speaker 1: much footage from the American people. To your point, that
Speaker 1: is really changing the country that we live in because
Speaker 1: they have launched this war on domestic terror against Americans
Speaker 1: on the right. They're using their unfettered, unaccountable authority to
Speaker 1: conceal evidence, manipulate evidence, distort things even in court rooms,
Speaker 1: to criminalize political dissent. So I think there's a bigger
Speaker 1: interest now, Lisa, and hunger from the American people, Lisa
Speaker 1: ones who won an honest country and an honest government,
Speaker 1: to get all of the evidence available as quickly as possible. Well,
Speaker 1: and for instance, you mentioned Jacob Chancey. He was kind
Speaker 1: of known by the media called the Qunan Shaman. So
Speaker 1: basically what we see in the footage is him really
Speaker 1: being escorted around the Capitol. Yet this man was sentenced
Speaker 1: to forty one months in prison. How do you square
Speaker 1: those two things? Well, I mean you can't. And let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Jacob's case, Lisa. The events
Speaker 1: of obviously, a January sixth was on a Wednesday, the
Speaker 1: government convened a grand jury on Friday, January eighth. Jacob
Speaker 1: Chancey was indicted by a grand jury on Monday the eleventh,
Speaker 1: five days later. You're telling me the government had all
Speaker 1: of it, all of its evidence, presented it to a
Speaker 1: grand jury, They delivered it, deliberated it, and considered it
Speaker 1: carefully before charging him with serious Saloni's like civil disorder
Speaker 1: and obstruction of an official proceeding. It's almost like Lisa.
Speaker 1: The DOJ was ready to go with these charges after
Speaker 1: January sixth. You'll recall the DCUs attorney, Michael Sherwin, the
Speaker 1: acting DCUs attorney. The next day, on the twelfth, gave
Speaker 1: this big press conference. You know, we're going to hunt
Speaker 1: you down. You know. The FBI Director Washington Field Office,
Speaker 1: Stephen d'antouano said, We're going to use every resource we have.
Speaker 1: This is going to be a twenty four seven non
Speaker 1: stock crusade to arrest people and hold them accountable. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was insane and crazy, and Jacob Chancey was really
Speaker 1: the face of what happened that day, but we weren't
Speaker 1: told the truth and even more shockingly, Lisa. He was
Speaker 1: held in solitary confinement conditions for over three hundred days
Speaker 1: under pre trial detention orders. Federal Judge Royce Lamberth, a
Speaker 1: Reagan appointee, refused to release Jacob even though he is
Speaker 1: no criminal history. He's a Navy veteran, he suffers from
Speaker 1: mental health issues, with Judge Lamberth knowledged in the summer
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, nonetheless allowed him to be tormented
Speaker 1: as a political prisoner into finally accepting a plea deal
Speaker 1: for obstruction of an official proceeding for which the government
Speaker 1: wanted Jacob forty one to fifty one months in jail.
Speaker 1: Judge Lamberth cruelly heartlessly sentenced him to forty one months
Speaker 1: in prison. He's been in jail now for twenty six
Speaker 1: months and is expected to be released. I think later
Speaker 1: this year. We'll take a quick commercial break more with
Speaker 1: Julie Kelly on January sixth. Does this new footage change
Speaker 1: the legal landscape? Can people appeal their cases now that
Speaker 1: the footage shows things like Jacob chance Ley being escorted
Speaker 1: around by police officers hardly looks like a threat when
Speaker 1: they're you know, walking with him and showing him being
Speaker 1: peaceful as well as the majority of the individuals who
Speaker 1: were there on that day. Does this new footage does
Speaker 1: it change the legal landscape at all? Well, it does,
Speaker 1: because you already have attorneys who are filing motions to
Speaker 1: delay trials or say release from custody based on the
Speaker 1: fact that the government did not produce all of the
Speaker 1: discovery obviously exculpatory evidence that could show different angles about
Speaker 1: what their client did, as we saw in the Chance
Speaker 1: Lee case. And so I don't believe any of the
Speaker 1: judges on the CDC District Court who've acted as nothing
Speaker 1: more than a rubber stamp for DJ. We see this
Speaker 1: playing out in the Proud Boys trial even today. We
Speaker 1: can get to that in a minute. But they are
Speaker 1: filing motions. But you already had a judge, the new
Speaker 1: incoming chief judge, by the way, who denied an emergency
Speaker 1: motion by a woman who was going on trial for
Speaker 1: numerous offenses and said, we want to see all the
Speaker 1: tapes that Tucker's team has access to that Congress has
Speaker 1: withheld from defendants and their attorneys for two years. And
Speaker 1: that judge denied her motion, and after a three day trial,
Speaker 1: in about two hours of deliberation by DC jury, she
Speaker 1: was found guilty on all accounts. That's the sort of
Speaker 1: thing that's been happening in this DC District Courthouse for
Speaker 1: the past year. I mean, that is just terrifying to hear.
Speaker 1: You know, the truth doesn't matter to this judge, The
Speaker 1: truth doesn't matter to the Department of Justice. In fact,
Speaker 1: it you know, seems like they've intentionally distorted the facts
Speaker 1: to try to you know, target their political opponents. You know,
Speaker 1: Before we get into that a little bit more, I
Speaker 1: also wanted to you know, the Brian Signik story also,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of changes that anamics of that, because
Speaker 1: you've had the left the media of trying to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, essentially he died as a redult result of
Speaker 1: the January sixth attack. But you know, there's footage showing him,
Speaker 1: you know, walking around after the mob you know, attacked him,
Speaker 1: and he seems to you know, being doing fine, and
Speaker 1: it sort of contradicts some of the narrative on him
Speaker 1: as well. Oh it totally does. I mean, and again
Speaker 1: you have men who were swept up in that unfair
Speaker 1: portrayal of what happened to Brian Sicknick. You know, let's
Speaker 1: go back to Brian Sicknick. The New York Times reported
Speaker 1: on January eighth that he had been murdered lugend to
Speaker 1: death by Trump supporters using a fire extinguisher. That was
Speaker 1: the narrative that was promoted by Democrats, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 1: obviously the news media for weeks. This resulted in a
Speaker 1: very rare memorial service for Brian Sicknick in the Capitol Rotunda,
Speaker 1: where even Joe Biden and Joe Biden attended that ceremony.
Speaker 1: He was eulogized by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, all
Speaker 1: under the guys that he had been murdered by Trump
Speaker 1: supporters on January six. His remains were then transported to
Speaker 1: Arlington National Cemetery. I mean, he got a hero's burial. Now. Look,
Speaker 1: it's tragic that Brian Sicknick, by all accounts, a really
Speaker 1: good guy, died of a stroke at the age of
Speaker 1: forty two. There were witnessed reports that said they saw
Speaker 1: him kind of sick later that night. He wasn't getting
Speaker 1: in the medical attention apparently that he needed. But what
Speaker 1: we did see in what Tucker released is that after
Speaker 1: the alleged spraying, and keep in mind, the cops were
Speaker 1: dousing people and they were actually getting maced themselves because
Speaker 1: the winds were kicking all of their pepper spray back
Speaker 1: in their faces. And Brian Sicknik probably was also a
Speaker 1: victim of that as well. But then you saw him
Speaker 1: walking around the Capitol, he looked fine. There's other body
Speaker 1: worn cambridge footage, Lisa, that showed Brian Sicknik on the
Speaker 1: upper terrace. He's using water to pour out the pepper
Speaker 1: spray in his eyes, like a lot of officers were doing,
Speaker 1: and so you know, they delayed his autopsy results. Finally,
Speaker 1: the New York Times admitted that the fire extinguisher story
Speaker 1: was not true. No one got fired, no one apologized
Speaker 1: for lying about it. But then they shifted to he
Speaker 1: might have suffered an allergic reaction to pepper spray. For that.
Speaker 1: Two men were arrested in March of twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: for attacking Brian Sicknic. They also were denied release from custody.
Speaker 1: A man named Julian cater One was released because actually
Speaker 1: his detention was overturned, but one man was held in
Speaker 1: the DC Bulag for eighteen months. A man named Julian
Speaker 1: cater accused of pepper spraying Brian Sicknic. There's video showing
Speaker 1: him using a small pepper spray. You shouldn't pepper spray
Speaker 1: police officers, right, even if they're attacking and assaulting you.
Speaker 1: I guess you're not supposed to defend yourself. That's a
Speaker 1: whole other question. He was detained for eighteen months, finally
Speaker 1: pleading guilty to attacking Brian Sicknic. And he was sentenced
Speaker 1: to seventy one months in prison. Brian Sicknic's family an
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend showed up at the sentencing hearing to give
Speaker 1: victim impact statements. The idea that Julian Cater was responsible
Speaker 1: for Brian Sicknik's death. I mean, this is like kasca
Speaker 1: est stuff going on. You know, we're worried about Vladimir
Speaker 1: Putin being some authoritari and thug, like, we have worse
Speaker 1: things happening in our own nation's capital. The idea that
Speaker 1: someone could sit in solitary confinement for eighteen months or
Speaker 1: at least the DC Boulot not all of it in solitary.
Speaker 1: I'll correct that denied bail because he allegedly spread an officer.
Speaker 1: When we saw what happened throughout twenty twenty. We see
Speaker 1: it happen in cities every night, Lisa, where violent criminals
Speaker 1: attack police officers. They're not denied bail and then sentenced
Speaker 1: to seventy one months in prison. We have an unequal,
Speaker 1: very dangerous, destructive system of justice. And when Mary Garland says, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't have one standard for Democrats and one for Republicans,
Speaker 1: it's flagrant. Lot. So the Bryan signic story was also
Speaker 1: a falsehood, and I think that that in itself brought
Speaker 1: attention to the whole manufactured narrative about Officer sicknic Well.
Speaker 1: And then you also have an unequal application of the
Speaker 1: individuals who the law being applied to the individuals that
Speaker 1: were there that day. I mean, you have someone like
Speaker 1: Ray Ups. The footage also shows that you know, Ray
Speaker 1: Ups lied about how long he was at the Capitol.
Speaker 1: You know, why, why is he seemingly unscathed from all
Speaker 1: of this? We don't know, Lisa. And what I've said
Speaker 1: is Jacob Chanzley is to the J six political prisoners
Speaker 1: what Ray Epps is to suspected agitators or paid provocateurs. Right,
Speaker 1: people need sort of a face, they need a name,
Speaker 1: they need you know, the backstory to what's happening. The
Speaker 1: fact that Ray Ups lied, and and the fact that
Speaker 1: he was on restricted grounds for over an hour and
Speaker 1: a half. He also was at the very first physical
Speaker 1: the breach of the exterior light, so police basically designated
Speaker 1: the entire Capital lawn is restricted area. Ray Epps was
Speaker 1: in the very first group of people who knocked over
Speaker 1: bike racks or metal raps and ran up the stairs
Speaker 1: on the west side. He was right there. He actually
Speaker 1: whispered in the ear of a man named Ryan Samsell,
Speaker 1: the guy in the backwards facing maga hat as Ray
Speaker 1: up or excuse me, Ryan Samsel knocked over the bike
Speaker 1: x and a police officer. Rays whispered in his ear
Speaker 1: right before that. We still don't know what ray App said,
Speaker 1: and so his activity is very suspicious on its face.
Speaker 1: But the fact that he's not charged twenty six months later,
Speaker 1: and that the Juniary sixth Committee came out in his
Speaker 1: defense when people were raising these questions like Darren Bati
Speaker 1: at Revolver News and of course Tucker Carlson, they still
Speaker 1: have no explanation for it. And his transcript that was
Speaker 1: released really doesn't make any sense either. He said he
Speaker 1: was not employed by any federal agency. Okay, fine, but
Speaker 1: there are a lot of other political interests that could
Speaker 1: have hired ray Apps to do what he was doing.
Speaker 1: There's still no good explanation why he does not face
Speaker 1: at the very least misdemeanors like parading at the capitol
Speaker 1: or trespassing on restricted grounds like so many authors have
Speaker 1: faced those charges. Well, and what's interesting is the narrative
Speaker 1: against Tucker Carlson releasing the footage and being given the footage,
Speaker 1: is that somehow it's going to make the capital vulnerable
Speaker 1: to attacks. But my understanding is that Nancy Pelosi's filmmaker
Speaker 1: daughter was given access to footage to make a documentary.
Speaker 1: She was also there that day filming. I believe Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi was miked up. What can you give us a
Speaker 1: little bit of insight into that? Is that all accurate?
Speaker 1: What do people need to know about that? And why
Speaker 1: is it okay for her to be showing the capital
Speaker 1: but not Tucker Carlson? That's right, I mean, she was
Speaker 1: showing the Capitol. It's weird that she would show up
Speaker 1: on January six if we are to believe that nothing
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen that day, right, I mean, we
Speaker 1: were told law enforcement was caught off guard. That's why
Speaker 1: the capital was unprotected. Donald Trump incited his followers that
Speaker 1: day after his speech to storm the capital. Well, why
Speaker 1: was her filmmaker daughter there? So she recorded every basically
Speaker 1: every movement of Nancy Pelosi, including underground when the house
Speaker 1: was being evacuated. How did Nancy Pelosi's daughter get access
Speaker 1: or authorization to go to a secure location at Fort
Speaker 1: McNair where congressional leaders were evacuated to We don't have
Speaker 1: answers to any of that, but Lesa, of course, she's
Speaker 1: not the only documentarian, filmmaker, photographer who was there January sixth,
Speaker 1: the police was crawling with filmmakers and documentarians from around
Speaker 1: the world. There were photographers planted in certain areas, including
Speaker 1: the Senate chambers, including Nancy Pelosi's office, where they urged
Speaker 1: Richard Barnett, the guy who put his feet up on
Speaker 1: one of her desks, not her desks, urged him to
Speaker 1: put his feet up on the desk so they could
Speaker 1: take a picture. That picture went viral that afternoon, even
Speaker 1: by Nancy Pelosi's other daughter, Christina. So that's why all
Speaker 1: of this looks more and more coordinated behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: And so, yes, her daughter was there. Her daughter has
Speaker 1: been contacting JA six defendants for almost two years trying
Speaker 1: to get their story so she can create this documentary.
Speaker 1: I assume make a lot of money and leverage her
Speaker 1: mother's position of power and fame to do so so.
Speaker 1: But again, there were a lot of filmmakers and photographers there.
Speaker 1: Just happened to be there. Lisa, Well, you know, and
Speaker 1: this all raises suspicions obviously that they knew, you know,
Speaker 1: something was incoming and failed to protect the capital from it.
Speaker 1: But even further, I mean, there have been confirmed reports
Speaker 1: that the FBI was involved in some of the planning
Speaker 1: or you know, the intricacies of what happened on January sixth.
Speaker 1: That's been confirmed, obviously, suspicions Raps was a fed But
Speaker 1: what specifically do we know as a matter of fact
Speaker 1: about the FBI's involvement and all of this. We know
Speaker 1: for a fact, Lisa, that FB informants were run into
Speaker 1: groups like the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys months before January
Speaker 1: six That has been established in court filings and at trial.
Speaker 1: We also know that the FBI DOJ had elite FBI
Speaker 1: forces stationed at Quantico the weekend before January sixth. This
Speaker 1: included informants or excuse me, probably undercover agents, who were
Speaker 1: then deployed to Washington, DC early that day. We don't
Speaker 1: really know what they were doing. We have new bodycam footage,
Speaker 1: and in fact, there is a motion pending in court
Speaker 1: right now, new bodycam footage that shows at least five
Speaker 1: undercover agents who are walking plate and close agents who
Speaker 1: were armed walking to the capital on January sixth, confronted
Speaker 1: by a DC Metro police officer said Hey, are you
Speaker 1: guys carrying firearms? Yeah? We are, well why and they
Speaker 1: all showed their badges, so what were they doing? Few
Speaker 1: of them were then seen behind Ashley Babbitt as she
Speaker 1: was entering the capital and one of them reportedly can
Speaker 1: be heard urging people to go inside the building. As
Speaker 1: Tucker said last week, his crew, his team of researchers
Speaker 1: saw very suspicious people inside the building, opening doors, showing
Speaker 1: people who are to go, encouraging to go into certain rooms.
Speaker 1: But because they couldn't identify them, of course, you don't
Speaker 1: want to instantly assign blame that they were undercover or
Speaker 1: undercover agents or informants. But Lord Christopher Ray refuses to
Speaker 1: answer this question over and over. He was not interviewed
Speaker 1: by the January sixth Select Committee. By the way, Lisa,
Speaker 1: imagine that the FBI director of the man in charge
Speaker 1: of the most powerful law enforcement agency in the country,
Speaker 1: was not interviewed by the January sixth committee. There's a
Speaker 1: reason why because if they had omitted questions about informants,
Speaker 1: which we know is true, then it would have revealed
Speaker 1: to cover up. But the fact that he wasn't interviewed
Speaker 1: at all also indicates a coverup of deep FBI involvement.
Speaker 1: And one has to look no further, Lisa than the
Speaker 1: Whitmer fed Napping hoax that was engineered and executed by
Speaker 1: not only the FBI to make it look like Trump supporters,
Speaker 1: militiaman white supremacists tried to abduct an assassinate Gretchen Whitmer.
Speaker 1: The guy who was in charge of the Michigan FBI
Speaker 1: Field office who oversaw that fed Napping hoax, was promoted
Speaker 1: to the Washington Field office in October of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: He oversaw all the intelligence collection of January six would
Speaker 1: have known about informants or other assets that were used,
Speaker 1: deployed before and on January sixth, a man named Stephen d'antoino.
Speaker 1: He also was not interviewed by the January sixth committee. Well,
Speaker 1: and of course what's scary about all this is this
Speaker 1: has been used to target political opponents, to expand the
Speaker 1: power of the Department of Justice going after American citizens.
Speaker 1: And you know, we know the first anniversary of January
Speaker 1: six the FBI opened a new unit to combat quote
Speaker 1: unquote domestic terrorism. You wrote the book on it January six,
Speaker 1: How democrats use the capital protests to launch a war
Speaker 1: on terror against the political right. Get into some of
Speaker 1: the details and what people need to know about how
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice has leveraged this day to target
Speaker 1: political opponents. Oh geez, where do I start. Let's see? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, using the FBI to investigate and interrogate
Speaker 1: and round up hundreds of Americans charged with low level
Speaker 1: misdemeanors like parading in the capital. At least do you
Speaker 1: know this? People are entitled to demonstrate on behalf of
Speaker 1: a political cause in the nation's capital. They're allowed to
Speaker 1: go into public buildings to do so. We have recent
Speaker 1: examples of hundreds of protesters in twenty eighteen storming Senate
Speaker 1: office buildings, coming face to face with US senators, screaming
Speaker 1: at them, following them down the street, as we saw
Speaker 1: with Lindsey Graham, confronting them in elevators, like we saw
Speaker 1: with Senator Jeff flat Those women were told to leave.
Speaker 1: They did basically a sit in in the Senate. They
Speaker 1: were removed. They were charged with the usual thing, fifty
Speaker 1: dollars fine. You're allowed to lead. You know, you're let go.
Speaker 1: You're not sent to a DC gulag where language and
Speaker 1: solitary convironment for months or a few years. So that
Speaker 1: is the biggest disparity. So they're criminalizing political dissent, whether
Speaker 1: it's by this ridiculous class B misdemeanor parading in the capital,
Speaker 1: which is the most common charge by far by the way,
Speaker 1: or bastardizing something called obstruction of an official proceeding a
Speaker 1: post end ron law that has to do with tampering
Speaker 1: with evidence in a congressional investigation, not exercising your political
Speaker 1: your constitutional rights to engage in a political protest. It's
Speaker 1: never been used this way before, Lisa, never was intended
Speaker 1: to be used this way. But this DOJ, as I
Speaker 1: explained with Jacob Chanceley, this DOJ has levy that fell
Speaker 1: any charge against roughly three hundred and twenty people. It
Speaker 1: has resulted in plea deals that has then resulted in
Speaker 1: years in prison. That was the charge that Matthew Parna
Speaker 1: pleaded guilty too. He thought he would spend a few weeks,
Speaker 1: maybe a few months in jail when he found out
Speaker 1: that the government was going to come back and ask
Speaker 1: for years in prison for that non violent offense. That
Speaker 1: is when Matthew Parna could take no more and hanged
Speaker 1: himself in his garage at the end of February of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. And I know you're familiar with that story.
Speaker 1: These are just a few examples of what this Department
Speaker 1: of Justice is doing. And the Republicans, for the most part,
Speaker 1: have not just been silent, they're complicit. Eighteen Republican senators,
Speaker 1: including Lindsay Graham and Tom Cotton, and I believe not
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, voted to give the Department of Justice a
Speaker 1: three point five billion dollar raise, partially so they could
Speaker 1: hire at least one hundred part time prosecutors to continue
Speaker 1: this investigation and these trials implea deals. It's just it's
Speaker 1: heartbreaking for the defendants and their families because it's such
Speaker 1: a rigged judicial, political, and legal system they have no
Speaker 1: way out. Although I do want to give Kevin mccorthy
Speaker 1: credit for doing this and thank him for doing this,
Speaker 1: especially standing in direct opposition of Minority Leader Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 1: who has opposed what Kevin mccorthy just did in the
Speaker 1: releasing of this footage. Isn't it just absolutely shameful, and
Speaker 1: I do want to commend Speaker McCarthy, And he also
Speaker 1: said this weekend on Fox I'm sure you saw, Lisa,
Speaker 1: that he intends to make this publicly available. So I
Speaker 1: really want to commend him for that. This is a
Speaker 1: huge win for truth and transparency in the fact that
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney and Senator Kevin Cramer and
Speaker 1: Senator Tom Tillis and Senator Lindsay Graham have come up
Speaker 1: to denounce Tucker Carlson's access to these tapes and releasing them.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is actual footage, right, Tucker Carlson didn't
Speaker 1: hire actors and go to the Capitol to reenact January
Speaker 1: six and make it look like something it wasn't. This
Speaker 1: is legitimate security video. So for them to denounce this,
Speaker 1: whether it was national security or rewriting the events of
Speaker 1: January sixth, As I said in my piece last week,
Speaker 1: the data from the dog speaks for itself. No matter
Speaker 1: how much they're using this to destroy lives in with
Speaker 1: low level misdemeanor offenses, the fact is that the overwhelming
Speaker 1: number of charges relate to misdemeanors. If you were going
Speaker 1: to name January sixth based on the charges DJ's coming
Speaker 1: up with, it would be called a parade because that's
Speaker 1: the biggest charge. So he's not rewriting history. Tucker is
Speaker 1: actually backing up DJ's own statistics on its prosecution. But look,
Speaker 1: I just don't know what we do with this Republican Senate.
Speaker 1: They are enemies of their own base, and I just
Speaker 1: don't know how we get rid of these people. But
Speaker 1: we really need to. Well, you know, especially when someone
Speaker 1: like Mitch mccanno, it would be you know, almost impossible
Speaker 1: to try to get him to lose unless he you know,
Speaker 1: it's really just retirement is kind of the only way
Speaker 1: that you know to try to get him out. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to and you can tell to. The vehement
Speaker 1: responds to Tucker's releasing of this footage sort of tells
Speaker 1: you everything you need to know. I mean, Majority Leader
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer took to the Senate floor to talk about it,
Speaker 1: calling it one of the most shameful hours of television.
Speaker 1: You've got the view that we're calling on Merrick Garland
Speaker 1: to take action. I mean, I think that response from
Speaker 1: the media on the left really tells you everything you
Speaker 1: need to know about why they fought so hard to
Speaker 1: keep this footage from the public. The idea that the
Speaker 1: most powerful, one of the most powerful politicians in the
Speaker 1: country can take to the Senate floor in demand basically
Speaker 1: the removal of arguably the most powerful journalist, influencer, commentator
Speaker 1: on the right, and no one condemns him. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are in Banana Republic territory, Lisa, as you can see.
Speaker 1: And the fact that I didn't see a lot of
Speaker 1: Republican senators, even people you consider on our side, come
Speaker 1: out and condemn him for saying that. And then he
Speaker 1: went out afterwards talked to reporters where he repeated his
Speaker 1: demand the Tuckers should be taken off they are not
Speaker 1: allowed to air more footage, and reporters, instead of confronting
Speaker 1: him for obvious government interference in one a rights, went
Speaker 1: along with it. You know, they didn't say, hey, Chuckstion,
Speaker 1: were your way out of line? You know, we don't
Speaker 1: agree with Tuck or we don't like him, whatever, but
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be on the Senate floor demanding he'd be
Speaker 1: taken off the air. But they didn't because of course
Speaker 1: they are fully invested in preserving the narrative about January
Speaker 1: six as well. They've helped create it as much as
Speaker 1: DJ or the January sixth Committee. Well, and you can
Speaker 1: also look at how important this narrative is to them.
Speaker 1: I mean you look at leading into the mid terms.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had the January six Committee was aired
Speaker 1: in primetime. You know, the threat to democracy was the
Speaker 1: big narrative from the left. I mean Joe Biden said
Speaker 1: that this is like the biggest attacked or democracy since
Speaker 1: the Civil War or the worst attack on our democracy
Speaker 1: since the Civil War. So I mean, so this narrative,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is imperative for them that they want
Speaker 1: this narrative heading into the presidential election, and this footage
Speaker 1: really threatens to deny them. What is a false narrative?
Speaker 1: That's right? And look if there is an alternative J
Speaker 1: six Committee, which a few Republicans now we're calling for,
Speaker 1: I believe Representative Paul Gosar is one of them. They
Speaker 1: need to hold the media accountable for this too. There
Speaker 1: was no need for these committee hearings to be televised
Speaker 1: on every single broadcast network whenever the January sixth Committee
Speaker 1: demanded it, cablenews, fine, but these networks, and of course
Speaker 1: we know you know they hired an ABC entertainment producer
Speaker 1: to put together all these shiny packages about what happened,
Speaker 1: dramatic packages where they overlaid audio on surveillance video that
Speaker 1: has no recording. Audio recording, by the way, So they
Speaker 1: need to be held accountable too, and that needs to
Speaker 1: be part of any investigation into this committee or DOJ
Speaker 1: or any part of January sixth. But look the American people.
Speaker 1: We saw this in the Rasmus and pull eighty percent.
Speaker 1: It's like the only thing Americans agree on. Eighty percent
Speaker 1: want all the surveillance video release. Sixty one percent, including
Speaker 1: almost a majority of Democrats, think that federal agents provoked
Speaker 1: the events of January six This is taken on a
Speaker 1: life of its own. The Biden regime, Democrats, Rhino Republicans,
Speaker 1: and of course the national news media are in full
Speaker 1: panic mode. That's why you see them scrambling to try
Speaker 1: to counter act what Tucker presented, what's happening in these
Speaker 1: trials and what more is to come. But I think
Speaker 1: the ship is sailed on that, and Republicans are hearing
Speaker 1: this from their base. This is a top issue for
Speaker 1: Republican voters in base. And I'm sure that you know
Speaker 1: that too. There's no way Republicans, at least in the
Speaker 1: House can get away with ignoring this or not addressing it.
Speaker 1: Now quick commercial break more with Julie Kelly. Have you
Speaker 1: faced threats for reporting on all of this so extensively?
Speaker 1: You know, no, except for weird people on Twitter, you know,
Speaker 1: bots who are paid to sort of malign my reporting.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean nothing, nothing serious that I would
Speaker 1: take seriously. I get that question a lot, and you just,
Speaker 1: I guess you can't live in fear, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to. Nothing that I'm reporting is a lie. If
Speaker 1: people want to dispute details my coverage, that's fine. But
Speaker 1: when I'm posting motions that are filed in court or
Speaker 1: what's happening in court, or evidence that's then presented, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to dispute that. So no, no, I
Speaker 1: would say overall, No, not yet. Anyway, you know, before
Speaker 1: we go, you know, we've got this new Judiciary Committee,
Speaker 1: the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Federal Government. You've
Speaker 1: got Speaker Kevin McCarthy releasing this footage. There does seem
Speaker 1: to be some desire to you know, exposed to get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of some of this. What should Congress do,
Speaker 1: what would you like to see them do on all
Speaker 1: of this, look, I would ideally like to see them
Speaker 1: put their biggest bulldogs, pit bulls, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call them, on a separate committee. Give them full authority,
Speaker 1: Give them access to all the video, all the documents
Speaker 1: that the January sixth Committee produced that are now hidden away,
Speaker 1: and over a hundred bankers boxes that no one's looked at.
Speaker 1: Have them access all the witness testimony, have them show
Speaker 1: how the January sixth Committee manipulated things to deceive the
Speaker 1: American people. But more importantly, I think whole DOJ and
Speaker 1: these federal judges publicly accountable for what they've done and
Speaker 1: what they are doing to Trump's supporters in the nation's capital. That,
Speaker 1: in an ideal world, is what I would like, and
Speaker 1: I do think that there might be some momentum in
Speaker 1: that direction. I also think it's just important for people
Speaker 1: to know, just as we've discussed during all of this,
Speaker 1: just how extensively the fabric of the country has changed
Speaker 1: because of a false narrative, you know, pending of the
Speaker 1: rule of law and the equal application of the law,
Speaker 1: the political process, the political dynamics of the country, the
Speaker 1: lies that were told heading into the election, the destruction
Speaker 1: of so many lives, as you discussed throughout this episode
Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, so much has changed as
Speaker 1: a result of this, and so much damage has been done,
Speaker 1: which is why we appreciate you, Julie Kelly, for reporting
Speaker 1: on all of this, staying on top of it more
Speaker 1: than anyone else, and really just fighting to get to
Speaker 1: the truth, which the truth is the most important thing
Speaker 1: we have. Well, I want to thank you to Lisa.
Speaker 1: A lot of people with a big audience would not
Speaker 1: really cover my work or talk about what I was
Speaker 1: signing out early on, and you have from the beginning.
Speaker 1: I think our first conversation was about the political prisoners,
Speaker 1: So I want to thank you is well for your
Speaker 1: courage because it certainly has not been very popular topic
Speaker 1: on the right over the last year and a half,
Speaker 1: but that is dramatically shifting. So I thank you for
Speaker 1: being a fighter with me from the beginning. Well, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that, And everyone go check out Julie's book
Speaker 1: January six, how Democrats use the Capitol Protest to launch
Speaker 1: a war and terror against the political right, would give
Speaker 1: you more insight into the conversation We just had Julie Kelly.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for making the time. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Lisa,
Speaker 1: hope to talk with you again soon. That was Julie
Speaker 1: Kelly talking about the new footage on January sixth, sort
Speaker 1: of exposing a lot of the lies that we've been
Speaker 1: told by the media, the political left and even some
Speaker 1: on the right. Sadly, you know, she's been reporting extensively
Speaker 1: about this, and you know we thank her for that,
Speaker 1: the bravery and just wanting to tell the truth. I
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