Speaker 1: Well, well, well Boost these listeners. My goodness, we have
Speaker 1: such a treat for y'all. I can't I can't even
Speaker 1: believe I'm about to say what I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: I have goosebumps running up my arms because of what
Speaker 1: I'm about to say. Every now and then on Myles
Speaker 1: and Jackob mad Boosti's we have isteam guests today is
Speaker 1: a very special moment. I can personally say one of
Speaker 1: my favorite basketball players of all time is joining us
Speaker 1: on the pod.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: I know, I think we were both fighting over who
Speaker 1: loved our guests more, and I think we netted out
Speaker 1: to I guess we call it a draw.
Speaker 2: That way, we.
Speaker 1: Didn't we can maintain the friendship of our co hosting.
Speaker 1: We are honored to welcome to Myles and Jacob mad
Speaker 1: Boosti's twenty twenty four Hall of Fame class member, eight
Speaker 1: time All Star, the ninety eight ninety nine Rookie the Year,
Speaker 1: two time NBA All NBA Gold Medal winner, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite basketball players. Vin Carter Welcome, Sure, thank Youka
Speaker 1: Canada AKA Vince already told you about it, but here
Speaker 1: we are. Vince, I mean, let's just start off really quick. Now,
Speaker 1: you played over the course of the nineties, the two thousands,
Speaker 1: the twenty ten's, right up to twenty twenty, we got
Speaker 1: to ask you, man, was there ever a time you
Speaker 1: felt that the shorts were too baggy? No?
Speaker 3: No, because I remember a time that we would say
Speaker 3: they weren't baggy enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then there was maybe someone say an over correction.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean literally like you would say that
Speaker 3: where it was I mean to the point to where
Speaker 3: you would have to wear shorts underneath. Yes, to wear
Speaker 3: the shorts that are too bag if you would. I
Speaker 3: used to go to particularly when I played ball in
Speaker 3: Jersey with Tim Thomas, I used to go to this spot.
Speaker 3: I mean I would get my basketball shorts from a
Speaker 3: spot called Oloffs, and they had the best colorways. I
Speaker 3: mean long, baggy short like that's just what it was. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny as soon as you said that,
Speaker 3: that's the first place I thought about.
Speaker 1: Was there ever, Like when you got your uniforms and stuff,
Speaker 1: you were the players ever talking like, man, these could
Speaker 1: be a lot bagg here, like this uniform could be
Speaker 1: back here, Like did you be like would you lie
Speaker 1: to like the equipment manager and be like, you know,
Speaker 1: I actually need like a four X you know.
Speaker 2: I mean they understood it at the time.
Speaker 3: And it's funny if I if I would go back
Speaker 3: in some of my old stuff, let's say, particularly Toronto.
Speaker 3: So let's just say ninety eight to my first to say,
Speaker 3: my first eleven years. If you look at my either
Speaker 3: my jersey or my shorts.
Speaker 2: They're massive. Yeah, they're massive.
Speaker 3: They were like fifty two's or something like in size
Speaker 3: where I had no business you know, in something like that,
Speaker 3: that that size. But it was just kind of the way,
Speaker 3: I mean, the way it worked. And you know, you
Speaker 3: made sure you had a good drawstring though, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you're playing tied, Well, that's just what it was,
Speaker 3: and you just kind of transition with the time to
Speaker 3: where I mean, I'm I just missed the era of
Speaker 3: not short enough. I just I could never really adapt
Speaker 3: to that. That's something I probably couldn't do. First of all,
Speaker 3: I mean I look normal to people, but I still
Speaker 3: have skinny legs and that wouldn't look good. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: like to see me. Yeah, I mean that's what they're
Speaker 3: looking for. I just that just wasn't my thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't look look good. I mean i'd have to
Speaker 3: play great basketball to kind of deter you from paying
Speaker 3: attention to.
Speaker 4: That, right right, right, amazing, So another question about the shorts.
Speaker 4: Now we'll move on from the shorts. Who are some
Speaker 4: of the players today that excite you like you? Do
Speaker 4: you have a musty like league, past team player, anyone
Speaker 4: you wish you could have competed against.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna say this, Before I did think about this,
Speaker 3: I thought about something about shorts, and I'm a funny
Speaker 3: parallel because we think back to John stock and used
Speaker 3: to take shots from everyone because of his shorts being.
Speaker 2: Entirely too short.
Speaker 3: Right, look at where we are now, he's right in
Speaker 3: pocket right now.
Speaker 1: I know he's right.
Speaker 2: It's time.
Speaker 3: I wanted to say that because it's like I remember,
Speaker 3: we're like, man, don't give me the Stockton. I remember
Speaker 3: it was if it was above the knee, you didn't
Speaker 3: want them, right right, Yeah, if they're two inches close
Speaker 3: to the knee, they don't want them because they're too long.
Speaker 2: So anyway, but your question.
Speaker 4: No, I will say that I think the problem or
Speaker 4: the way that the whole baggy shorts got started, like
Speaker 4: when I started playing basketball in the early nineties, like
Speaker 4: in elementary school. The uniform that they gave us, like
Speaker 4: you could see briefs underneath those, like they were so short,
Speaker 4: it was like a wrestling one, Like what is happening?
Speaker 4: So then I would like sag them down and like.
Speaker 1: You yeah, it just.
Speaker 4: Look like a penguin out there, like it was. It
Speaker 4: was really bad. So like I do blame whatever they
Speaker 4: were doing in the Probably those uniforms were bought in
Speaker 4: like the sixties and seventies, like right after it was
Speaker 4: right after the Belton Yeah yeah, yeah, so there that
Speaker 4: it was an over correction maybe, but I was I
Speaker 4: was always jealous of how how big the shorts were
Speaker 4: at the at the college.
Speaker 2: And permission level Fab five. I mean, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Know absolutely they considered MJ believe it or not, with
Speaker 3: the Baggie had the baggy shorts right in his time, and.
Speaker 2: Like you know, you go back and look at it
Speaker 2: like wait.
Speaker 1: What halfway down between yeah.
Speaker 3: Correct and then you I mean yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: like ride about. You're right, it became the Fab five,
Speaker 3: which I think that was took it to another another level.
Speaker 1: But you were never going like TJ Ford with it?
Speaker 1: Did you mean them of those pictures where they were like.
Speaker 3: Those Yeah, yeah, where you were doing stuff like that
Speaker 3: like they. I I wish if I were going to
Speaker 3: talk about this, I could probably pull out some old
Speaker 3: shorts like that could fit probably two people.
Speaker 1: You know, they look like watchers before you or something.
Speaker 3: Shorts, just regular shorts or some basket or just the
Speaker 3: you know, we used to wear basketball shorts for just
Speaker 3: everyday life.
Speaker 2: They were like that, like that t J four picture for.
Speaker 4: Sure, right, this guy's legs must have been enormous.
Speaker 1: As archaeologists or like he was a giant, like there
Speaker 1: was no other explanation for sure. But yeah, the question, sorry,
Speaker 1: back to the question, the non short related question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who are you excited about right now? Anyone who
Speaker 4: reminds me of you, anyone you feel like is unprecedented.
Speaker 3: I mean I get the opportunity to call games and
Speaker 3: talk about basketball and watch So there's a lot of fans.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate I've been working at it. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of guys that I'm fans of. I mean, this the
Speaker 3: new generation is next up and very capable. I mean,
Speaker 3: what's that Lebron wants like Lebron Lebron area. Let's just
Speaker 3: say Lebron steps away from the game, we're gonna be
Speaker 3: looking for the next and I think there's some you
Speaker 3: know Anthony Edwards for instance. Yeah, I mean there's a Luca.
Speaker 3: I mean, you still have a Kyrie for a while,
Speaker 3: John Morant. I think Jalen Brunson gives you a I
Speaker 3: think he's he'll be loved like Alan Iverson because of
Speaker 3: his stature, because he's he's a shorter guy. And you
Speaker 3: can relate to a guy who's that hype like Brian
Speaker 3: Iverson more so than a guy who's six eight, because
Speaker 3: that's that's you know, that's not what you see every
Speaker 3: day or you know, that's not the average hype player.
Speaker 3: But when you look at Jalen Brunson to do what
Speaker 3: he's done and to be able to control a game.
Speaker 2: And we heard the narrative.
Speaker 3: We hear the narrative all the time about little guys
Speaker 3: can't get it done, little guys can't take their team this.
Speaker 3: I mean, he put everybody on his back and said
Speaker 3: let's go so and it'll be interesting to see where
Speaker 3: the Knicks will be if he did not get hurt.
Speaker 3: And I mean amongst everybody else, everyone else as well,
Speaker 3: but he held his own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's just plenty more.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I'm interested to see how this
Speaker 3: Jaalen Uh Jaalen Brown Jason Tatum thing works out. If
Speaker 3: they win it, obviously they probably stay together. If they don't,
Speaker 3: do they stick together. But I think those are two
Speaker 3: talented guys who if they separate, you obviously that's another
Speaker 3: guy who you know, Jaylen Brown for sure getting the
Speaker 3: chance to be number one all the time. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: he'll make some noise in the leads. So there there's
Speaker 3: so many, so many guys out there still, So I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just name in the few. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot of guys that I'm fans of. There's not
Speaker 3: really one, but I mean I see some guys that
Speaker 3: I'm fans of, and even guys that aren't considered the
Speaker 3: top tier guys. I enjoy good basketball and guys who
Speaker 3: played their role to the highest level. And that's who
Speaker 3: sticks around, who has long, prosperous careers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just real quick, you know, I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people are just interested in like hearing people
Speaker 4: who played in the league talk about can you look
Speaker 4: at a French a Frenchman like that and not want
Speaker 4: to jump over him, and.
Speaker 3: That would be that would be an interesting challenge seven six.
Speaker 2: With athletic ability.
Speaker 3: Uh, he's not your traditional I mean he's not your
Speaker 3: traditional center where I say he's gonna jump, he's athletic.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to challenge you. He's not going
Speaker 2: to just stand there, you know. So, but you're different.
Speaker 3: I mean I would definitely, I mean my mentality, I
Speaker 3: would definitely try him. I mean, he's gonna block my
Speaker 3: shot more times than not, probably, But it's just like
Speaker 3: it was just like the YAO mean, the Matombo's, the
Speaker 3: Sean Bradley's all they are. The more you want to
Speaker 3: try it and and just to see what happens to me,
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of what it was. I mean, I
Speaker 3: remember playing Tracy and I when we knew we were
Speaker 3: playing YAO or.
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance. I didn't really dunk on.
Speaker 1: Y'all, but just dropped down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the one. He was the one that.
Speaker 3: Got away, but never had never had the pleasure. But
Speaker 3: like Sean Bradley, Uh, I remember in Dallas, cut across
Speaker 3: the middle, middle to the left and dunky times. I
Speaker 3: remember like it was yesterday, Like Patrick, like some of
Speaker 3: the greats, Like that's kind of what it was. I mean,
Speaker 3: I had the utmost respect for the elite shot blockers
Speaker 3: of of the games of our time or in history,
Speaker 3: forget of our time in history. And uh, there's there's
Speaker 3: only one other guy that makes me laugh. Shack would
Speaker 3: be the other guy that I had a run in,
Speaker 3: let's just say, and it didn't work out of my favor,
Speaker 3: and I left that quest alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like trying to du on the building.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, and if you don't catch it right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the the end. The end result is more painful
Speaker 3: than the quest of, or is less worth trying.
Speaker 2: To actually accomplish. Like, nah, he hurt me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm gonna try it again. Nah that way,
Speaker 3: it only took one time. It's like, okay, Shack, we're
Speaker 3: just gonna leave him alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull up, I'm gonna jump out of the way, floater.
Speaker 3: You know, this is those options like go through them,
Speaker 3: you better go around.
Speaker 4: You're doing it for him, You were doing it for him.
Speaker 3: Actually, he laid me out one time in the stable
Speaker 3: center early and all he was doing was just standing there,
Speaker 3: literally put his arm up, hit the ground.
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, immovable object.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna win that battle.
Speaker 4: All right, we should we should take a quick break.
Speaker 4: We're gonna come back. We're gonna talk more dunking. We'll
Speaker 4: be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 4: And I do just have to say, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: you hear this all the time, you are responsible for
Speaker 4: one of my, if not my favorite basketball memory, which
Speaker 4: is the dunk contest.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And I was a college freshman and I've never had
Speaker 4: an experience like be So we were all in our
Speaker 4: dorms and after every dunk, everybody poured out of their
Speaker 4: room into the hallway and they weren't saying anything. They
Speaker 4: just had their hands over their heads and they were
Speaker 4: just screaming at the top of their lungs. It was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember, absolutely magical.
Speaker 1: This was my freshman year of high school and I
Speaker 1: was about to go to my first dance. It was
Speaker 1: a Valentine's Day dance because it was that weekend that's
Speaker 1: when All Star Weekend was like the Valentine's My high school,
Speaker 1: me and my homie we stood up our dates to
Speaker 1: watch the dunk contest and missed.
Speaker 2: Our first didn't go at all.
Speaker 1: We didn't go because it was the dunk contest was
Speaker 1: right then, and we're like we have to see that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not joking, man. We lost our minds to
Speaker 1: the point where I remember like we were getting calls
Speaker 1: like where are you supposed to be the thing?
Speaker 2: We're like what.
Speaker 1: We just couldn't pick up phones, nothing like that, And
Speaker 1: it was such a formative memory. Again, like Jack said,
Speaker 1: that was like one of those times. It's not often
Speaker 1: where you see somebody do something on the basketball court
Speaker 1: and it just immediately expands your imagination for what is
Speaker 1: even possible. And that first dunk you came out with
Speaker 1: just the most milk, the cleanest windmill too, Like that
Speaker 1: arm was straighter than Tiger Wood's backswing.
Speaker 2: Here is the.
Speaker 5: Man that this crowd watched to say Ben's Connor with
Speaker 5: told Kenny Smith that he.
Speaker 4: Has four dunks, but no one was.
Speaker 5: Ever saying odd.
Speaker 1: Here is Frince Connor with his frost shot.
Speaker 2: Let's go home, Let's go home, Let's go home, Let's
Speaker 2: go let's go home.
Speaker 4: That is a reverse three six, you go on, it
Speaker 4: gets the grain.
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Best building just exploded. I'm perfect. I'm the scoreboard.
Speaker 2: That was that's the goal. That was the goal.
Speaker 3: Like I and I tried not to get too technical
Speaker 3: when I'm talking about it. That's why I don't judge
Speaker 3: the dunk contests because like that was a thing for
Speaker 3: me as far as the straighter the better, because that's
Speaker 3: like that's the toughest I mean you can do. The
Speaker 3: is that is it really a windmill? Because if you
Speaker 3: go look at a windmill, they're all straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 3: I tried to take it. I took that literally as
Speaker 3: far as like what a windmill?
Speaker 2: Windmill?
Speaker 3: When you use that, okay, cool paper mills you can
Speaker 3: you know, you know what you could do with paper.
Speaker 2: You take a piece of paper. You convinded that's where
Speaker 2: you get a paper mill. You need to take it
Speaker 2: as disrespect.
Speaker 3: But I was like, that was my thing, So I
Speaker 3: wanted to, I mean obviously showed the world how I think,
Speaker 3: how I viewed dunking, my athleticism, my love for for
Speaker 3: for the art of dunking, and it has a dream
Speaker 3: come true to be a part of All Star Weekend.
Speaker 3: That's I used to tape the All Star Weekend and
Speaker 3: that's that's all I studied and paid attention on me,
Speaker 3: not all, but mostly what I studied and paid attention
Speaker 3: to it is like All Star Weekend. It's like, you
Speaker 3: mean All Star Saturday. All Star Weekend meant Saturday.
Speaker 4: You're the iconic moment as.
Speaker 2: A kid growing up, Like that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, the games are cool, there's moments, but like
Speaker 3: a lasting moment more than likely came from Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what All Star Weekend did for me overnight was truly unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I went from yeah, we know them in Toronto. You
Speaker 3: know we're out there. We weren't getting much air time,
Speaker 3: we didn't have any national TV games at the time
Speaker 3: leading up into it, to you know, Tracy t mac
Speaker 3: hates hates when I said when I talk about this
Speaker 3: because he did not want to do it, as we
Speaker 3: know the story goes.
Speaker 2: But what.
Speaker 3: Him going out there putting on the show, me putting
Speaker 3: on the show, winning it, What it did for the sport,
Speaker 3: the art of dunking popularity, our opportunity in Toronto was
Speaker 3: amazing and I just I went in to airport. I
Speaker 3: can move around a little bit. It was easy to
Speaker 3: fly up there, but leaving it wasn't the same. Sunday morning,
Speaker 3: it was a totally different experience. I felt different because
Speaker 3: I accomplished the goal, and I think for me, I
Speaker 3: accomplished the goal of wanting to win it, but wanted
Speaker 3: to put on the show. I mean, I just wanted
Speaker 3: to put on a show in general, people to really
Speaker 3: feel good. Like you said running out of your dorm,
Speaker 3: and that's kind of I'm thinking through things like this.
Speaker 3: While doing the Dunk Contest, particularly the arm in the rim,
Speaker 3: I wanted to people and and give you a different
Speaker 3: experience than you got from the first two Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: Wow. Did you see that whoa, whoa whoa to to
Speaker 3: the to the arm and the rent where you couldn't
Speaker 3: say anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone's looking at each other saying what yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: Celebration like that. It's over celebration like I don't know,
Speaker 4: was that just in the moment?
Speaker 3: That was in the moment. That was never a planned thing.
Speaker 3: It's funny, I know, it was just a plan thing.
Speaker 3: Like the whole point. It just it happened. I did
Speaker 3: that same point in the Dunk Contest and the McDonald's
Speaker 3: All American Dunk Contests. I actually did a version of that,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of like that point. It's just in
Speaker 3: the moment, but it's not something like, oh, when I do,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit him with point to the dunk eyes.
Speaker 3: I could just out of bout the experience and I could, well,
Speaker 3: I can tell the story of the time. It's like
Speaker 3: that whole dunk routine that I did, I made that
Speaker 3: up on the spot. That wasn't my original team. So
Speaker 3: I think it was more thank goodness, I'm i'm I'm
Speaker 3: trying these things, or I'm coming up with these things.
Speaker 3: I'm doing these things on the fly and it's working out.
Speaker 3: And it's not like I was pointing to the gods
Speaker 3: like thank you. Yeah, the arm in the rim was
Speaker 3: like a so that that huge science project that you
Speaker 3: added a little something or twist to it, but you
Speaker 3: don't really know if this result is going to work
Speaker 3: out in your favorite because we could have easily been
Speaker 3: asking me about why did I try that, or never
Speaker 3: talking to me again.
Speaker 4: You know, so it worked up well, Thank you for
Speaker 4: putting it in for the listeners who don't know. I'm
Speaker 4: wearing glasses, so thank you for putting it in terms
Speaker 4: I can understand what the science project I tried. I
Speaker 4: tried to do the it's over like celebration. Like I
Speaker 4: tried to cram that into my life, Like I was,
Speaker 4: like I would leave a test it's over, guys like yeah, man,
Speaker 4: it's yeah, the test is over.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, you got your grade back. You failed
Speaker 1: over this.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this about the dunk cutest. You know,
Speaker 3: I feel like it was a cool feeling. And this
Speaker 3: is obviously twenty four years later, but did you feel
Speaker 3: like after you watched that contest you.
Speaker 2: Could do that make make any of those dunks? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what we did. I'm not joking. We
Speaker 1: lowered the rim to eight feet in my friends driveway
Speaker 1: and we all tried to just wind mill first, just
Speaker 1: to see if we could do that. We're like, bro,
Speaker 1: I don't have a vertical to fully. I mean like
Speaker 1: on an eight foot rim. It was real quick, but
Speaker 1: that elbow was bent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of what I want. I wanted out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I say, like you when we see things
Speaker 3: on TV. We immediately tried that stuff at home, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to make it look as easy and effortless
Speaker 3: as possible, where if people felt like, oh man, I
Speaker 3: could do that, until you do it, or try it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean even like in that one Night You
Speaker 1: commercial you had. I even got on the ladder once
Speaker 1: like the Little Boy and that night commercial and just
Speaker 1: tried to jump off there and almost broke. Yes, it
Speaker 1: all worked out.
Speaker 3: And then again, it's funny we talked about that. We
Speaker 3: like we they said, we're expecting people trying to sue
Speaker 3: them from trying that.
Speaker 2: The lad like that.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what they were talking about it. But
Speaker 3: that's like the reality, and that's kind of you know,
Speaker 3: we were kind of reliving what I was trying to
Speaker 3: accomplish that night out in the commercial. It's funny, nobody
Speaker 3: really has ever really mentioned or talked about that, but
Speaker 3: that's really true.
Speaker 2: That's why that was created like that.
Speaker 3: For for that reason, people like, Okay, I can't do it,
Speaker 3: but let me get up here and try it.
Speaker 2: Yeah I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to all those who actually sprained their ankle,
Speaker 3: broke the leg on arms and trying that. I was
Speaker 3: about worried about doing that myself. I was like, please
Speaker 3: don't fall off or breaking down arm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the things that used to happen with kids.
Speaker 4: When Superman first came on, they would like jump off
Speaker 4: their house, break their legs.
Speaker 1: They're like, but I'm wearing a bed sheet as a cake,
Speaker 1: Like that's not what it was. Like, Well, that's your
Speaker 1: first problem. First start there, I think one thing. So
Speaker 1: like we're talking about obviously with the Olympics coming up,
Speaker 1: and we were just mentioning poor Frederick Weiss. Uh you
Speaker 1: know that is another moment, like I remember I I
Speaker 1: printed out on a color printer that still frame of
Speaker 1: you just completely flying over Frederick in that dunk, and
Speaker 1: I remember just again, that's another one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's it's one of those things you witnessed and
Speaker 1: you screamed too, Like I think at the end you're
Speaker 1: like what like you you're screaming that out. I'm curious,
Speaker 1: did you accidentally hit Kevin Garnett when you swung your arm,
Speaker 1: because every time I watched him, like, I think he
Speaker 1: may have been here.
Speaker 3: Subconsciously, I knew he was there, So if you noticed it,
Speaker 3: it was outward instead of across the body because all
Speaker 3: the way out. Okay, here, question, I'm gonna take you
Speaker 3: back to that moment. So that celebration, we were celebrating
Speaker 3: different things.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize I jumped over Frederick Weiss at the moment,
Speaker 3: so that I wasn't so celebrating jumping over him like
Speaker 3: KG will right because obviously he had the best view
Speaker 3: in the house.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I was celebrating because I thought I jumped too far.
Speaker 3: And obviously the Spike commercial getting hung yea blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: So that was kind of that was kind of my
Speaker 3: celebration because I'm in. I mean, it's crazy how I'm
Speaker 3: able to have all of this thought from a jump,
Speaker 3: Like when you're playing the All Star Game or with
Speaker 3: great players like that, when you get an opportunity in transition,
Speaker 3: you take advantage of it. So I get to steal.
Speaker 3: And that's what it was. One too dribble. I was
Speaker 3: just trying to get up and go. Ben Baker claims
Speaker 3: he was wide open.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 3: But if you go back and watch it, ben Baker
Speaker 3: in like this throw the lib throw the lib. I
Speaker 3: was like, really, for years, I had no clue. You
Speaker 3: know who pays attention to that?
Speaker 2: Did you guys know that? Did you ever know?
Speaker 1: But I did notice Ben Baker's face exactly after He's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: like n Baker looks kind of shook after He's like.
Speaker 3: I just remember the initial contact from the farm, I
Speaker 3: guess hitting his left shoulder, and now I'm up there thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm too far.
Speaker 2: The rim is way down there, and I'm rito.
Speaker 3: If you go back and watch, if you notice I
Speaker 3: didn't dunk it like up, I'm actually reaching for the
Speaker 3: rim and I dunk it with my you know arm,
Speaker 3: in with the wrist more so risk contact on the
Speaker 3: rim because I thought I wasn't gonna make it. In
Speaker 3: my mind, I thought I was gonna be a fingertip.
Speaker 3: But I ended up jumping and actually making it with
Speaker 3: plenty of rooms. So that is what I was celebrating. Wow,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that I jumped over him. I mean,
Speaker 3: if I sat there and thought about it, I thought
Speaker 3: maybe he moved out of the way, tried to take
Speaker 3: a charge of shell down.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say if you gave me ABC and that
Speaker 3: jumping over him and was d I would probably not
Speaker 3: pick that. I know, I wouldn't pick that because I
Speaker 3: wouldn't say, Oh, I'm gonna go jump over seven foot
Speaker 3: two guys.
Speaker 2: Night who says that? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: So and it's crazy and I'm always asked and I'll
Speaker 3: you know, and maybe you don't ask, but I was
Speaker 3: always asked. So how did I not know from that
Speaker 3: moment on to the rest of the game. And I said,
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I remember it being a time out,
Speaker 3: and I remember sitting on the bench and you know,
Speaker 3: I'm listening to coach talk or whatever, and I remember
Speaker 3: Steve Smith and some of those guys looking at me
Speaker 3: just like, didn't anything.
Speaker 2: In all these years. So let's say twenty two years,
Speaker 2: let's just.
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I never thought to ask any of my
Speaker 3: teammates how come you guys never said anything?
Speaker 2: Right? And I finally got to ask Steve Smith.
Speaker 3: He said, because you just jumped over a dude, and
Speaker 3: we were trying to see if like you're human and
Speaker 3: if you're real, like read something like that. And after
Speaker 3: the game is when I actually found out that that's
Speaker 3: what happened. Wow, I saw it on a little camporter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're like an out of body experience, right, watched it
Speaker 3: seven times? Wait wait, wait, wait, let me see this game.
Speaker 3: I jumped up because I'm trying to remember the moment
Speaker 3: and like, I don't remember any of that because that
Speaker 3: wasn't my focus. My focus was rim and rim.
Speaker 4: Only, yeah, and not throwing a lob for Vin Baker
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 2: Which I had no clue he was.
Speaker 1: He was yeah, because I feel like that sequence for
Speaker 1: us as fans is like off the back of that
Speaker 1: dunk contest. I was like, oh, he meant to do that,
Speaker 1: Like this is Vince Carter just showing you what the
Speaker 1: time it is like it didn't matter, like I saw
Speaker 1: what it.
Speaker 2: Was more so the mentality.
Speaker 3: It was more so the mentality that we talked about earlier,
Speaker 3: naming bigs and attacking the big like it didn't matter
Speaker 3: who you know, he's seven too, I'm attacking the big
Speaker 3: like if you're gonna try to block this, like I
Speaker 3: let's see what happened, right, And that was more so
Speaker 3: the mentality. That's kind of I mean, it was just
Speaker 3: a natural like I wake up in the morning, I
Speaker 3: see a big I'm going, yeah, I didn't have to
Speaker 3: about bones and food. God, yes, that is it's time
Speaker 3: to eat. And that's kind of what it was. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I just but I just never thought in
Speaker 3: my mind like yeah, I'm gonna mup over seven ft
Speaker 3: two guys.
Speaker 2: He gets to my way.
Speaker 4: Like that year right like that. That's one thing that
Speaker 4: I think he was a lottery pick. He was fifteen
Speaker 4: like the year before.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say two things to that. We played
Speaker 3: them in the gold medal game and a similar situation happened,
Speaker 3: same side of the floor. He's there now, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try this again, right, and he takes me out.
Speaker 3: He literally hard files me, takes me out, knocks me
Speaker 3: to the ground, like onto the cameras on the floor,
Speaker 3: and I you know, it was one of those things
Speaker 3: like I get.
Speaker 4: It right, Yeah, that must have been pretty embarrassing for you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna try to do this again?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just like, let's see what happens, because
Speaker 3: if he blocked me this time, I was like, oh okay,
Speaker 3: or if I could do it again, wow. So that
Speaker 3: the second time is when I actually said I understand right,
Speaker 3: I mean to jump over a guy who was six
Speaker 3: eight six nine, and I couldn't do it. I almost
Speaker 3: both of them, So it was just meant to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I figure with Vice at that second attempt, He's like, bro,
Speaker 1: I literally have nothing to lose right now. He's like,
Speaker 1: you already took everything from me. With that first one
Speaker 1: so amazing.
Speaker 4: Should we take one more break you come back with
Speaker 4: the rapid fire around the question? We will, all right,
Speaker 4: we'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: Yes, I guess before we get to the rapid fire,
Speaker 1: we should we We do. Just need to get a
Speaker 1: little bit of a check here from Vince about who
Speaker 1: he thinks the best the best dunkers are in the game,
Speaker 1: So in game dunkers. So Vince, what we're gonna do is,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an either or you pick one,
Speaker 1: and I'll keep adding another option for you until we
Speaker 1: get to the sound good.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So if you okay, if you're name somebody that saying
Speaker 3: yes or no, yeah, you pick between the two. You'll
Speaker 3: constantly pick between the two better, yeah, the better the two.
Speaker 2: This is not right O. Here we go. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry some of you players, man geez.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we know you're the goat anyway, so look,
Speaker 1: sorry to everybody, but here we go. To start off
Speaker 1: Sean camp or Dominique Wilkins.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you're not supposed to. No, that's not right.
Speaker 1: You gotta start off with.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, oh gee geez, give me a second.
Speaker 3: Mm hm oh and I know how start camp is.
Speaker 3: I'm saying nominee.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh my gosh, man, yeah, sorry, I hate oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know these people. That's right, You're not absolutely talking
Speaker 1: on a podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, right up to it, like, hey, bro, you
Speaker 2: think uh.
Speaker 1: Sorry, man, there's a podcast.
Speaker 4: And Dominique is a fan of this show. Keeping that
Speaker 4: in mind, Dominique or Jahn Morant, we're.
Speaker 1: Doing here, Let's ask asking questions of somebody who.
Speaker 2: Is gonna be a warm up, like you get some
Speaker 2: of those guys and then you're just.
Speaker 1: Going, we're afishing, man, we're efficient.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to John Morant for the simple
Speaker 2: fact of height.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, but I think at the end of.
Speaker 3: This, I'm gonna take it back, all right, John Morant
Speaker 3: or Anthony Edwards. I'm gonna say job Morant for the
Speaker 3: simple effect of he does it more often?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, John.
Speaker 4: Morant or Vince Carter. No, I mean yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's the right answer.
Speaker 1: Right answer me, Vince Vince Carter or Lebron James Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Vince Carter. Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: Might gotta bring it. Uh So, I just recently said this,
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna continue to roll with it. I know,
Speaker 3: I know what Mike was doing, but I I like
Speaker 3: I like me, man, I'm saying it's the right answer.
Speaker 2: I just answer.
Speaker 3: I showed my respects to all these guys because I mean,
Speaker 3: I know today's world. You say something like this is
Speaker 3: an opinion. I just liked me in these situations because
Speaker 3: I just know my mentality. I know some of these
Speaker 3: guys mentality too. But hey man, Mike, the goat is
Speaker 3: the goat and everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me have not the in game dunks. No,
Speaker 1: not that go to Vince Carter goes to the star Hill.
Speaker 4: All right, this is the this is the rapid fire
Speaker 4: round of questioning where we're going to give you a
Speaker 4: question you just sind the answer back. Do you have
Speaker 4: a favorite in game dunk.
Speaker 1: Of yours of yours? No?
Speaker 3: But I'll say the most talked about is the Alonzo
Speaker 3: morning dunk. M Yeah, yeah, which becomes the most controversial
Speaker 3: because of the back and forth of who if he
Speaker 3: didn't talk to me or not.
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm gonna pick that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. Uh, Vince, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: who's the most underappreciated of the truly all time greats. Like,
Speaker 1: who's a guy that deserves to be mentioned more? But
Speaker 1: it's usually like left out of the common discourse.
Speaker 3: I think what I like, Isaiah Thomas is one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we talked about them, but we don't what he's accomplished at.
Speaker 3: We talked about little guys accomplishing you know, the feet
Speaker 3: of championship that I think he's He's one of them
Speaker 3: that comes comes to mind.
Speaker 2: So I'll go with Isaiah.
Speaker 4: All right, you are famously talented at many other things.
Speaker 4: You were, you know, a musician. Is there another NBA
Speaker 4: player in all of history whose skill set off the
Speaker 4: court you would steal? Like, is there a skill that
Speaker 4: you saw another NBA player had that you would steal
Speaker 4: from them if you had the opportunity to take a skill.
Speaker 3: I'm a golfer and I love golf, So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say someone either like a steph.
Speaker 1: Or a swing is too pretty?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's Ray Allen.
Speaker 3: So those two, those two guys, as far as I
Speaker 3: would try to steal their game, I'm getting there too.
Speaker 3: I'm a single digit or like, I'm not where they
Speaker 3: are yet.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're a single digit. You might have a future
Speaker 1: in this sports thing. Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I work at it, so I'm getting there.
Speaker 1: Man, what skill would you gift to me?
Speaker 2: If you could give me any of your powers?
Speaker 1: Fence, if you could bestow one onto me after I.
Speaker 2: Would love to give the dunking power.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you man, which seased to me to our
Speaker 1: next question, Who was the first person you dunked over?
Speaker 2: Ever? Can you remember? Wow?
Speaker 1: You're the way you're fishing like I've dunked over a
Speaker 1: lot of people. No chance I have you follow up?
Speaker 1: How old were you the first time you dunked? I
Speaker 1: was in sixth grade. The first time I dunt I
Speaker 1: was in seventh grade. The first time I dunked in
Speaker 1: the game Wow, And that was like once or twice
Speaker 1: in that game.
Speaker 3: I want to say ninth grade is when I think
Speaker 3: I feel like I see the ninth grade. I want
Speaker 3: to say ninth to tenth grade, but I want to
Speaker 3: say ninth grade is when I dunked on somebody. I
Speaker 3: was a freshman and I was the point guard at
Speaker 3: the time, so I was running the point.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: But I I let a lot of guys have it
Speaker 2: in high school.
Speaker 1: Seventh grade, that's wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventh grade was my first end game done. Were
Speaker 2: you did you hit a lake?
Speaker 4: Gross?
Speaker 2: Was still junior high?
Speaker 4: Did you hit a lake Grossburger? Were you just like
Speaker 4: handling the ball because you were better than I was?
Speaker 4: I was?
Speaker 2: I was? I mean I was.
Speaker 3: I came in five eleven six feet uh huh, and
Speaker 3: by basketball season I be I was six three six four.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: But I was a freshman and I had a pretty
Speaker 3: good handle. But I was a little feller, right, and
Speaker 3: it kind of just carried over. And as I grew
Speaker 3: to six sixth or so, you know, I had a
Speaker 3: little handle. Now I'm playing, I'm one of the taller guys.
Speaker 3: I was a taller guy, but I was still playing
Speaker 3: shooting yards well forward.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how a Legends made mm hmm. All right.
Speaker 4: And finally, we are planning a nineties throwback series this
Speaker 4: summer where we highlight players or teams from that era.
Speaker 4: Do you mind giving us a few recommendations on nineties
Speaker 4: guys we should highlight So far, our list includes Grant Hill,
Speaker 4: Penny Hardaway, a guy named Vince Carter, Sean Camp, Young,
Speaker 4: Kobe Iverson Petrovitch from the Nets, and Reggie Lewis you
Speaker 4: got any anyone else you want to add to the list?
Speaker 3: Nineties, I mean I can give you a few. I
Speaker 3: think I should definitely be in there. Yeah, Milwaukee.
Speaker 2: Ray Allen. Yeah. And also Big Dog Robinson Okay, yeah, yes, with.
Speaker 3: His ability to score in mid range, which is obviously
Speaker 3: a lost art, but he was one of the toughest
Speaker 3: to guard in the mid range.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite quite period. So I mean I like that
Speaker 2: group nineties.
Speaker 1: That's a good group.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And finally, was it disorienting for you to try travel
Speaker 1: back in time to nineteen seventy five at Rucker Park
Speaker 1: and back then you were known as doctor Funk? Was
Speaker 1: that scary for you or how it was?
Speaker 3: I actually walked into that, to that to that on
Speaker 3: to that court. It was scary because I felt like
Speaker 3: I was actually.
Speaker 1: There because every yeah, all the extras were dressed up
Speaker 1: like it was the seventh No Lie.
Speaker 3: When I walked in, it was insane and it and
Speaker 3: everybody kind once you know, high, high high, and once
Speaker 3: everybody got into character.
Speaker 2: Right, felt like I was in seventies. Yes, crazy, that the.
Speaker 3: Way the way every insane shout out to Chris. Chris
Speaker 3: is a friend of mine who the dribble drive behind
Speaker 3: the back path.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The first attempt was on the money. I mis handled
Speaker 3: the ball the first time with the windmill. Yeah, his
Speaker 3: first attempt. We've never worked together. Wowow on the money.
Speaker 3: Chris was amazing the work with and and so like
Speaker 3: two or three times. I think my hesitation like, yo,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna get the first one.
Speaker 2: All jump. I mean he put on the money.
Speaker 3: I didn't jump high enough, just just trying to get
Speaker 3: a feel. And I'm like, oh man, this we're talking
Speaker 3: about a professional here. And that was amazing to go through.
Speaker 3: And I mean it was a barn that commercial. It
Speaker 3: was insane, insane.
Speaker 1: Well, Vince Carter, every answer you gave us was the
Speaker 1: correct one. That Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: I mean, all your contributions to the game, the culture,
Speaker 1: everything to our memories were forever grateful. So appreciate you
Speaker 1: taking the time to chat with us. Uh And yeah,
Speaker 1: we hope to see you very soon.
Speaker 2: I'm always around somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, keep up the great work on the podcast and
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Man, that's been on the golf course. That's been my
Speaker 1: chance to kind of just talk the game.
Speaker 3: I mean, I say, I know, I've been an analyst,
Speaker 3: but like I get to kind of talk like we're
Speaker 3: talking and that barbershop talk on.
Speaker 2: The talks with your buddies talk. That's kind of how I.
Speaker 3: Want to post the game and explain the game from
Speaker 3: how I see it. It's been fun. So yeah, the
Speaker 3: DC Show check it out. Man, it's been it's been.
Speaker 3: It's been fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, honored to be label mates with you
Speaker 1: on the network so you know it's always guys.
Speaker 2: That was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really think thing like I wouldn't expect them
Speaker 3: to have to oh hey man, Like, like I said,
Speaker 3: that was good.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we've I've had these questions ready for
Speaker 1: like twenty five years, so I'm not able to fire
Speaker 1: them off.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: So you ful filled a dream of mine. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. All right, Thank you so much, man, and
Speaker 1: thanks to the listeners.
Speaker 2: We'll see you soon.
Speaker 1: Till the next time later, Bye bye,