1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha and what this stuff 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: never told you? Production by Heart Radio, and today we 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: are back with friend of the show, friend in real 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: life who you got to see recently and I did not. 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Joey. 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm happy. I'm happy for you. Jealous but happy, 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: which I think we do talk about in these two 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: episodes of kind of those conflicting emotions sometimes. So, Yes, 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: Joey was recently on Joey's our New York correspondent. Yes, 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: and if you didn't know, there was a huge mayoral 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: election in New York recently and we wanted to talk 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: to Joey about it and see what was going on 13 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: exactly exactly, and there was a lot to discuss. So 14 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: we did split it up, and we weren't planning to 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: split it up. So hopefully this doesn't sound too awkward, 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: but if it does, give us some grace, we had a. 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: Lot to say. 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Also, quick content warning, we are going to be talking 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: about sexual assault and sexual harassment briefly in this episode, 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: but just wanted to mention it so you can take 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: care of yourself. And so let us get back into 22 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: our conversation with Joey. This is something I've been thinking 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: about and it makes me really sad. And it's just 24 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: the reality that a lot of us have had to 25 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: grow up with, especially marginalized people in any way. But 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that you have a candidate like 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Cuomo who does have this history that got him like 28 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: kicked out and for him to be like, oh, well, 29 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: worry about what will happen if it's not me? And 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, the sad reality this isn't the truth in 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: this case, but a lot of times, unfortunately, you have 32 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: to kind of pick between your sex predators when you're voting. 33 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: Really you really do. Yeah, no, I mean again twenty 34 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: twenty if we want, I thought anymore, that's kind of 35 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: what that was. And thank you Annie that beautiful transition. 36 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Quomo of it all, because, uh, 37 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: the the elephant in the room here on Mom Donnie. 38 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Of course. Well, so the Republican candidate, Mom Donny was 39 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: the Democratic candidate. The Republican candidate was a man named 40 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Curtis Leewa, who is fascinating. Uh, we're not going to 41 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: get into that now. I did just watch. Uh. I 42 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: would recommend though, if if you go on YouTube and 43 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: you look up like Curtis Leewa like interview esp the 44 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: one there was one where it's just him talking about 45 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: all of his cats. He is so funny. It's so funny. 46 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: And yes, also disclaimer, I'm aware that this man has 47 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: a lot of terrible policies and beliefs, that has done 48 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: a lot of messed up stuff. Again, I'm just asking 49 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: for a little bit of nuance. I can still find 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: him a little bit funny and acknowledge the fact that 51 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: he's done a lot of terrible things. 52 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: So he's a fun train. 53 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: He's a fun he's a fun Traine wreck. He's a 54 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: fun character. He's a very like New York character. Anyways, 55 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: not talking about him because that man was never gonna 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: win the election. Cuomo ran independently. Cuomo first of all, 57 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: lost the primary significantly, like pretty badly, and for some 58 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: reason was like, no, no, no, no no no, I should 59 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: run as an independent and and this time it'll win. 60 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: Once again, lost spectacularly. So that was really funny. And 61 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: at one point Eric Adams, our current mayor, was also 62 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: running independently. He did drop out, and then in doors 63 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Cuomo there was a lot of murkiness there. There was 64 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: a lot of I would say kind of open secret 65 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: rumors about some pressure from the Trump administration about him 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: to drop out and endorse Cuomo. You know what I 67 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: will say for Curtis Leeba. He has also talked about 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: how he was like, I was offered money to That's 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: how he talked to him. He's like, oh my god. Anyway, 70 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: he does sound like like a character. Anyways, he was like, 71 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: I was offered money to drop out, and I can't 72 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: be bought and sold, which, you know what a little 73 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: bit of respect there. I gotta say again, I don't 74 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: have to agree with your policies or beliefs or anything, but. 75 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: He had some standards. 76 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some standards. Good for you. Anyways, Cuomo. 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: Two failed campaigns against this guy, and at the end 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: of the day, the heart of his campaign really was 79 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: banking on this idea that, like the me too era 80 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: and everything we were talking about with why he resigned 81 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: in the first place, that that was just kind of 82 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: a blip. It was gonna go away. People don't really 83 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: care about it. And you know, this is a time 84 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: where I think it is very understandable to feel that way. 85 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: You know, we did kind of see there was a 86 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: lot of stuff that the me Too movement, there were 87 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: a lot of promises that didn't kind of follow through. 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: Trump is literally president of the United States again, despite 89 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: having multiple accusations of sexual assault. You know, there was 90 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: like the p Diddy trial recently where he got significantly 91 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: lower sentencing. Yeah, that I think people were expecting. You have, 92 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: like Chris Brown has a Grammy nomination right now. I 93 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: don't know, like there's a bazillion examples you can point 94 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: to of like this man who was accused of sexual assault, 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: who was convicted of sexual sault, whatever, and it's kind 96 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: of getting swept under the rockgund This is like, like 97 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: you said, Annie, it's usually a sort of we're all 98 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: sort of aware, we're just kind of voting for the 99 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: least awful sexual predator. And I think Pomo was kind 100 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: of banking on the fact that he was like I 101 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: could just get away with this. It's fine. Famous quote, 102 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: I'm not a pervert, I'm just Italian, which I'm an 103 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: Italian personally. I don't know how to respond to that. Yeah, yeah, 104 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: part of my culture think about that. I still think 105 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: about that. I'm like, huh. There were a lot of 106 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: issues with Cuomo's campaign, Like I don't think it was 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: just the sexual assaulting that was like the main issue obviously, 108 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: Like there was the whole corruption scandal in general. There 109 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: was you know, the COVID mishandling. There was uh, the 110 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: fact that he was backed by a lot of Trump's 111 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: donors and the fact that Trump endorsed him towards the end. Uh, 112 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: there was the fact that he literally did not live 113 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 2: in New York City, like he lived pretty obviously lived 114 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: in Westchester and was like crashing at his daughter's apartment 115 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: or something, so he ran. It was some weird like 116 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: loophole thing that they did. Anyways, another really funny, courteously 117 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: while line from this this whole election cycle was about 118 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: quote what we said, uh, killing granny's and grabbing fannies again. 119 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm so I'm so glad that man was there for 120 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: the commentary at least, like Joey, have you ever watched 121 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: thirty Rock, which is I watched? 122 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So there is towards the end this character where 123 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: they are running for mayor, I believe, and Tracy Morgan 124 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: is like a doppelgamer, but they people love him because 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: he's so ridiculous and loud and so bad. But at 126 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: the same time, his like stupidity, idiot idiocy really like 127 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: made him endearing to like. According to the show, like 128 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: they were making a statement about the fact that if 129 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: you can be stupid enough, yeah, you can be ignorant 130 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: enough that they will ignore that because they're going to 131 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: be entertained by. 132 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: This right and mocking the system. But it kind of 133 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: sounds like this is what that's kind of what happened. 134 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to again, like I've seen all the 135 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: thing pieces now is that I respect being like guys 136 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: like be careful with this guy. Actually all these terrible 137 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: policies and I'm like, I know, I know, and I 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: do hope people remember that he does have some banger 139 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: one liners though, you know, so I don't know, Uh, 140 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: that was the most gen c or statement of that politics. 141 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: So that thing I heard in minute, Like yeah, so 142 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: I think again, there were all of these issues with Cuomo. 143 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: There were there was various problems people had with him. 144 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: I would say, I think the one that I got 145 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: talked about the most was the fact that he was 146 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: a serial sexual predator. And I did just very unofficial poll, 147 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: but I kind of just reached out to a bunch 148 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: of friends in New York and I particularly made a 149 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: point to talk to some of my friends that are 150 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: like say straight met into and just be like, hey, 151 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: like just off top of your head, I know you' 152 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: all voted for Zauran, but like when you're thinking about 153 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 2: the CLOMO campaign, like, what do you think was like 154 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: the number one issue with it? Like was the number 155 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: one thing that went wrong? And they all for like 156 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: were like either we're like yeah, the sexual harassment and 157 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: the corruption. Like so it was either the answers were 158 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: all either the sexual harassment or sexualcraftsmen in corruption, like 159 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: the combination of the show, which it all kind of 160 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: came out at the same time, so it makes sense. 161 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: But that was interesting to me too, is I And 162 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: again like this is not an official poll. This was 163 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: me texting a munch of my friends that also is 164 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: a bubbularist on itself, but I was like, yeah, even 165 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: the people like I know who, maybe this isn't the 166 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: biggest issue top of mine. Again, I was. I tried 167 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: to ask all of my friends that were like sis 168 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: head men that are you know, no fault to them, 169 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: well meaning, but like this isn't gonna be the bigest issue. 170 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: They're gonna think of out just because it doesn't predict 171 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: in them as much. And like across the board, it 172 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: was like, yes, like this guy, he's a sexual predator 173 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 2: that has taged his image, which to me, I think 174 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: signals that, yes, maybe we didn't reach the full goals 175 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: of the met Too movement, but but I don't think 176 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: it is totally failed. And I think this is a 177 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: sign that like, it's still worth fighting, that still fight, 178 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: it is still worth talking about these things, and it's 179 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: still it is not a just like and nobody cares 180 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: at the end of the day. And so during the 181 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: final debate leading up to the election on October twenty second, 182 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: mom Donnie actually brought two of the women who had 183 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: accused Quomo of sexual harassment, Charlotte Bennett and Karen Hinton, 184 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: as guests to his debate. Obviously, this is this is 185 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: political tactic, is a debate tactic. He's not the first 186 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: person to do this, trying to throw your opponent off 187 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: their game. But at the same time, it is like, yeah, 188 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: you're getting that message across loud and clear that you're 189 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: like this man, like these are the women, these are 190 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: two of the many women that he hurt. We're putting 191 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: them front and center. We are not We're not just 192 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: saying like, oh, he's a sexual like we are actually 193 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: centering our voices. We are making sure they're heard. We're 194 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: not like gonna glaze over this issue. Like he made 195 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: a point to bring it up. He made a point 196 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: to bring it. There was a really great line that 197 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: he had that Zorn had I am now talking about 198 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not still talking about funny things, Curtis Lee 199 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: why ha said, but the Zortmandami and one of the 200 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: debates said is something where he uh, somebody had brought 201 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: up like you don't have a lot of experience whatever, 202 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: and he was like, God, I'm misquoting this, but this 203 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: is the gist, but I don't have an experience. I'm 204 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: up for an integrity, but there's no like, no matter 205 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: how much experience you have, you will never be able 206 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: to like you don't have the integrity to kind of 207 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: match that or whatever like that Basically was lin, I'm 208 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: butsterering the line, but it was it was like it 209 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: really got to the point. I've seen that clip go 210 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: around TikTok a bunch and it was like one of 211 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: the sixth parties. He was like directly calling out like, yeah, 212 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: this is somebody who like, we're not gonna glaze over 213 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: the fact that he was uh he resigned in disgrace 214 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: for multiple corruption charges and uh, you know, a series 215 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: of sexual harassment claims. We're not gonna we're not gonna 216 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: just glive, but we're not gonna glaze over that. We're 217 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: not gonna glaze over that. And you know, and my 218 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: thinking too is like who's the who's to say what's 219 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: gonna happen the people un for sexualssault is one of 220 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: those issues to sexual harassment. It is like across the board, 221 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: it shows up and left his spaces too. This gives 222 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: me hope that it like if there were a similar 223 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: thing to happen within the Mountomi inustration, if there was 224 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: an individual to do this like this gives me hope 225 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: that it's like they're not going to just try to 226 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: push them under the table. Again, who's to say what 227 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: will happen? Is all just speculation, but this shows to 228 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: me that it is like, no, this is something we're 229 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: trying to prioritize. Uh, we like we're not going to 230 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: just be like, uh, yeah he did that, but we're 231 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: not going to focus too long in it because we 232 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: have this problem too, which again you can't say that 233 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: for all Democratic candidates because sometimes it's like you can't 234 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: really talk about the Trump stuff because you're just as 235 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: bad at all of this whatever. But yeah, I think 236 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, the thing 237 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: that I think stood out there were a lot of 238 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: things about this election that were that gave me a 239 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: lot of hope for the future and showed me that 240 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: like things are changing, that people do want to better tomorrow, 241 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: that like there's hope for the Democratic Party to like 242 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: move further left on a lot of these issues. And 243 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: I think just seeing the response to Cuomo running and 244 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: see how miserably he lost both times, that was a 245 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: big thing to me, just seeing the fact that it's like, 246 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: we're not letting this We're not letting people forget about 247 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: what happens in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. We're 248 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: not letting people forget, you know, all of the terrible 249 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: things that happened in COVID. We're not We're not just 250 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: gonna move on. We're not gonna just swip this under 251 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: the rug and like pretend like sexual sol sexual harassment 252 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: isn't a big issue. Because it is so. Then, yeah, 253 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: going going back to Zoron and again idea of having 254 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: women in power, having women in leadership, because again when 255 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: we're talking about sexual harassment, it is that there's a 256 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: twofold issue here. Obviously, sexual harassment in itself bad, terrible, horrible. 257 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: The other thing it does that just courages women from 258 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: being involved in city, in local government, and being involved 259 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: in these positions of power. So back to talking about Zoron, 260 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 2: he now is put together his immediately after winning election, 261 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: putting together his transition team. He has announced that he 262 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: is going to have an all female transition team for 263 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: this new role. Before we get into that, I do 264 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: want to briefly go on in tangent, Samantha. I know 265 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: you were excited about this. I want to read this 266 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: beautiful New York Post headline that dropped on November third, 267 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, so the day before the election, and 268 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: it says, quote, this is the title how Zoran Mandani's 269 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: aloof wife rama douaji. I really hope I'm pronouncing that right. 270 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry if I'm not quietly steered his campaign 271 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: from behind the scenes. I didn't actually realize this until 272 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: I was putting this outline together. But this article was 273 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: written by a woman, Okay, a loof wife I would 274 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: love to be. My goal is like I want to 275 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: be described as somebody like somebody's a loof partner that 276 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: they're like they're running the. 277 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: Right Actually I am running. 278 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a funny description. My favorite response to this 279 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: article with somebody on Twitter, I don't a social media platform. 280 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: I think it was Twitter. I'm still calling a Twitter, 281 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't care. Somebody a postal thing that was basically like, wow, 282 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: the New York Post saw the most successfully run democratic 283 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: campaign of the past decade and went a woman must 284 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: have been behind this. That's so feminist of them, which 285 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, no, that's I'm really trying to 286 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: apply here, like don't look at the man behind the curtain. 287 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, like woman a circult way of being 288 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: like is this a compliment? Is this progressive or is 289 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: this anti progressive? I can't I can't tell. You're going 290 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: to like why with this one? 291 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: As a podcast producerdy if anybody wants to like refer 292 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: me as like the aloof behind the scenes, steering the pot, 293 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: like I would be like yeah, saying you oh yeah, 294 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: that's good. So yeah, anyways, that was a funny headline. 295 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get super into Rama just because she 296 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: is a private individual. She is not. She was not 297 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: the one running. It was her husband who was running. 298 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: But she's twenty eight years old. She's only a couple 299 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: of years older than me. First gen Z, first lady 300 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: in office, which hell yeah. Allegedly they met on Hinge, 301 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: which I think is really funny. About half of my 302 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: friends that are couples met on Hinge, so good for them. 303 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: Glad it worked. Personally, I've not had that luck on Hinge, 304 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: but it was okad not bitter. Who's to say, but yeah, 305 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: she's really cool. She's an artist, she seemed again, seems 306 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: super cool in her own right. I would recommend checking 307 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: out her art. Her pottery is really cool. My mom's 308 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: a potter. So I sent her like her page immediately 309 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: and she was like, oh my god, this is so cool. 310 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: Like gods. Anyways, so seems very cool. Rama. If you're 311 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: listening and you want to hang out, just hid me up. 312 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure you're getting a budget, but you know, like, 313 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm cool, I promise, let's go. Yeah, you know, I'm 314 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 2: sure you have, but like, I'm cooler than everybody else. 315 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: It's reading out right now, so you should come hang 316 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: out with me. 317 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: Obviously, obviously, let's talk about. 318 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: The actual transition team. We'll talk about the women that 319 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: are that are actually involved in this administration beyond of 320 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 2: course rama running everything from behind the scenes. So on 321 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: November six, so just two days after the election, Vogue 322 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: posted a story called who are the Women in Mum 323 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: Donnie's Transition Team. I'm gonna link this in the show 324 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: notes because I think they did a good job of 325 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: just kind of doing a quick summary of each of 326 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: these individuals. Side note justice for teen Vogue, which recently 327 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: they have announced just being folded into Vogue. I'm very 328 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: very sad about that. Teen Vogue was one of the 329 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: things that inspired me to want to go into journalism. 330 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: So sad day really did a lot of good for 331 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: I think progressive journalism, and I think is specifically getting 332 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: like young people, young women involved in progressive politics. But yeah, 333 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 2: so on Mom Donnie. In the article, it says quote 334 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: as if to illustrate just how differently he works from 335 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: former Governor Andrew Cuomo, his chief opponent, whose systemic craftsman 336 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: of women in the workplace has been a matter of 337 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: public record. Mom Donnie has announced an all female transition 338 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: team as he prepares to take over for Eric Adams 339 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: on January first, twenty twenty six. The article then also 340 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: shouts out some of the women who advised his campaign, 341 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: so that would be Maya Honda, Sara Rahem, Tasha van Alcan, 342 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: and Faiza Ali. I am so sorry if I'm saying 343 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: any of those wrong. I was going to go through 344 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: and figure out all the pronunciation of everybody's names before 345 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: we recorded this, and then I forgot to do that, 346 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: but this article accredited them as quote advising the mayor 347 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 2: elects on key issues including trans writes, abortion access, and 348 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: universal childcare. The article then goes on to highlight these 349 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: five women but are leading his team, Grace Bonilla, Melanie Hertzog, 350 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: Lena Kahan, Elena Leopold, and Maria Torres Bringer. Again, we'll 351 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: link the article in the show notes. I don't want 352 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: to just go through and rebreathe the article, so I'm 353 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: going to try and summarize some of the biggest points here. 354 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: All of these women have very strong backgrounds in the 355 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: economic justice In Torres Springer was the deputy mayor under 356 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: Eric Adams, and she had resigned following some of the 357 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: corruption scandels that had happened with them. So very very 358 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: qualified team. The person that I'm probably hearing the most 359 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: buzz about is Lena Khan, so I want to talk 360 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: about her really quickly. She is very cool. Leida Cohn 361 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: was the chair of the FDC Federal Trade Commission under 362 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: President Biden. Wall Street and Silicon Valley hate her, which 363 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: I think makes her pretty cool. In a speech the 364 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: day after the election, Con was quoted saying, quote, what 365 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: we saw last night was New Yorkers not just electing 366 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: a new mayor, but clearly rejecting a politics were outside 367 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: corporate power and money to often end up dictating our politics. 368 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: And then, in an article from The Hill on CON's 369 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: appointment to Mom Nannie's team, it says of her run 370 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: as FDC chair, quote, CON's took an aggressive posture towards 371 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: reigning in corporate power. Working with the Justice Departments Antitrust Division, 372 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: the FDC under Con blocked dozens of deals and took 373 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 2: on the likes of Amazon, Microsoft, Kroger, and Ticketmaster. Cohn, 374 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: citing the interest of consumers, saught to crack down on 375 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: unfair business practices such as quote junk fies and mandatory 376 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: arbitration clauses. So congrats to everybody such as myself who 377 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: has been victimized by Ticketmaster within the past couple of years. 378 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I got ten dollars from them. Makes up for everything. 379 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got options to get tickets to a different 380 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: show that you don't want to go to specific dates before. 381 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: I have given up on getting like I was, so 382 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: I tried the last uh tour that I like, really 383 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: like big tour. I really tried to get tickets. Where 384 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: was the Mayhem lady Auga Tour? And I like couldn't 385 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: get in through the weight line. And I was just like, 386 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm done. I'm not, like this is not happening. 387 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: Uh so so heartbroken over that I did somehow better 388 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: to get errors tour tickets and I think that was 389 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: like that was it? Like my my luck ran out 390 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: for getting tickets. Anyways, I get respect for anybody again. 391 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: Also Amazon, Microsoft, like all of these, I'd say, these 392 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: are these are if these are your enemies, that tells 393 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: me good things about you as person. And then before 394 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: becoming out Dacy chair, she had a strong anti trust 395 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: background she had worked at New America, which is a liberal, 396 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: left leaning policy think tank, and according to the same 397 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: article from the Hill quote, she also worked as a 398 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: council to the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Anti Trust, Commercial 399 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: and an Administrative Law, and served as an associate professor 400 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 2: at Columbia Law School. So yeah, I want to highlight her. 401 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: This is again, just one of the five women who 402 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: are leading this transition team. I've heard. I was reading 403 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: a bunch of different articles on this, and a couple 404 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: of the articles were saying that Khan and Forres Springer 405 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: were the kind of co chairs leading this, and then 406 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: there are other articles that were saying that the five 407 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: of them were all leading it. I'm not sure exactly 408 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: what that structure is looking like, but either way, all 409 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: female transition team very like qualified, smart women being put 410 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: in these positions, women that like con who have a 411 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 2: history of taking on these mech corporations, which yeah, like 412 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: he was running his campaign on, We're going to attack 413 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: the rich, We're going to attach the ultra wealthy, We're 414 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: going to tap tax these giant corporations that have garnered 415 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: too much power within the past couple of decades. This 416 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: all makes me feel hopeful. This makes me feel hopeful 417 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: about the direction of what he's actually going to be 418 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: able to carry out with his upcoming appointment as mayor. 419 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: And also it shows me that he is committing to this, 420 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: to centering women, to centering making sure that women are 421 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: equally a part of this government, that are equally a 422 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: part of this team, that these are not issues again 423 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: we're just throwing under the bus, which is so so 424 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: so drastically different from again, serial sexual predator Andrew Cuomo. 425 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: Seems like an upgrade to me personally as a person 426 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: who has a signed female at birth. That makes me 427 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: feel safer. That makes me feel Also, it is the 428 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: Quoto campaign. A lot of it was run on this 429 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: idea that was like New York has gotten so like dangerous, 430 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: and it's like we need law and order and women 431 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: aren't safe on the subway and it was like why 432 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: because you're on the subway, Like I don't know, like 433 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: it really it was this this whole like this past 434 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: year has just been seeing the like all of these 435 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: hypocrisies and this disconnection like being broadcast onto these like 436 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: campaign ads on whatever. And it it gives me hope 437 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: to see that people were able to recognize that for 438 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: what it was and able to understand that, like, yeah, no, 439 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: the dude with the what thirteen women? Now, I can't 440 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact memer. I think it's thirteen 441 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: women that have accus him for sexual hassment. I can't 442 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: trust the thing that he says. This other dude seems 443 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: to be putting. You know, Yes, he's new, Yes he is. 444 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: He is a again like a he's he's thirty four. 445 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: He's like, he's gonna be the youngest mayor of New 446 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 2: York City. He has worked in government, he has had 447 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: that background. He's not totally unqualified, but he is also 448 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: newer to this field as opposed to you know, or 449 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: newer to this level as opposed to Eric Adams and 450 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: Puomo and whatnot. But he really does seem to be 451 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: putting his money where it's not fit. Like he really 452 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: just seemed to be following through with the thing with 453 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: the communities. He's championing the communities that he's trying to 454 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: speak to, and that's worth a lot. But there's been 455 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of American politics is a lot 456 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: of big talk and not a lot of action. And 457 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: I feel very hopeful that this is going to turn 458 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: into legitimate action. So guess I'll do check in a 459 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: year and see how we're going. But but yeah, I think, 460 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 2: like I said at the top, this is kind of 461 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: the most like hope I've actually felt looking at electoral 462 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: politics in a while. I think it was a good 463 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: reminder that it was like, yeah, most people, like beyond 464 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: just the fact that he won, the fact that this 465 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 2: amount of people showed up to campaign for him to vote, 466 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: like he won by this was like the most amount 467 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: of people that had come out to vote in New 468 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: York City election since like the sixties. Like that shows 469 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: to me that it's like New Yorkers do give ah, 470 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: like New Yorkers do care. We care about our neighbors. 471 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: We're not gonna like the average person isn't gonna fall 472 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: for like yeah, let's throw trans people under the bus. 473 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: Let's throw like Muslim people under the bus, will throw whatever, 474 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: which is again, like I'll certain people within the Democratic 475 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: Party right now, issues like abortion. You know, you have 476 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: like Ezra Clined right now talking about how we need 477 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: to run like anti abortion candidates. 478 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: For some reason, apparently women are all the problem too, 479 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: So women are all the problem. 480 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: Trans people are the problem. It's we're behind the scenes, 481 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: a loot of scenes, you know. 482 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: I will say, like, this feels out of my many 483 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 3: a years. This did bring excitement around the country, and 484 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 3: I think like we we are somewhat aware of what's 485 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: happening in New York City. It is the significant things 486 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: that happened. But this is like the first time that 487 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 3: I've seen people say, no, I really wish I could 488 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: have voted for him, like this film. 489 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I got so many texts from yeah, all of I. Uh. 490 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: First one I got was from Bridge and in front 491 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: of the show show I also produced, and it was 492 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: just Mom Donnie in all caps, and I was like, yes, yes, 493 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: really that's exactly. 494 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: The excitement was real, and that felt like a difference, 495 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: Like this is one of those elections that you felt 496 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 3: the difference. And I think it's significant to see that 497 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: the tricks the old tricks, which is kind of scary 498 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 3: because I am also the pessimistm that like, oh, now 499 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 3: the Republicans or the far right extremists have learned and 500 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: now we're gonna have to like restrategize that the old 501 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: tactics aren't working. We don't believe them anymore. With the 502 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: fear mong green or the people who do leave them 503 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: are too old to make an impact. And I don't 504 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: not say that in a like ageous way, but like 505 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: that kind of boomer ideals that was nine to eleven. 506 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: The gen x fear mongering that happened has shifted, like 507 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: the millennials and the gen Zers are kind of coming 508 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: back with like, but that wasn't exactly what happened, Like 509 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: looking behind the curtain of understanding that there was like 510 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: a Islamophobia that was happening more so than we were 511 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: being attacked like this like level of strategy has changed, 512 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: and New York City and like just the elections around 513 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: the country that we saw a giant shift. I had 514 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: misspoken in a previous podcast about Mississippi actually having cut 515 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: through their super majority of Republicans. Mississippi of one of 516 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: the states that I'm scared to stop in because of 517 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: the level of like rhetoric racism there was able to 518 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: push through in such a significant way. But like Mandani 519 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: was again a test to see to gauge the temperature 520 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: of where we are and understanding, ah billionaires, we don't 521 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: like them like that type of level, and it's it 522 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: is exciting. 523 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: It is exciting to see. 524 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: Of course, again, as we said previously, this now that 525 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: this has happened, let's make sure and I say this 526 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: to you because you're the one responsible, Joey in New York. 527 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: To hold the person. It's specifically you only it's time away. 528 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: But like the same in Atlanta, we've of course every 529 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: time something goes wrong, you can't do that because here 530 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: because we didn'tvote for those people. To note, we did 531 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: have positive the rattle the Republican parties for sure to 532 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: I think like I'm now already seen like again like 533 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: Twitter discoorse stuff that's like, oh, well, I hope he 534 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 2: doesn't do the thing that like AOC and Bernie did 535 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: were they down the schooled out. And I'm like, I 536 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: think that's complicated. I think that there's plenty of things 537 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm willing to criticize IOC and Bernie in particularly and 538 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: like more progressive politicians that are in office about what 539 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: they've done and things that I think they have failed on. 540 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: That being said, I'm like this campaign happened because of 541 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: because of Bernie and AOC, like they they set the 542 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: stage for this, like it's a sething. Yeah, and it 543 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: is like like we wouldn't have gotten like I when 544 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: Bernie was running in twenty sixteen, like I and I 545 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: was in high school, but that was like I know 546 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: so many people that were like learning about like the 547 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: Democratic Socialist for the first time because of that, And 548 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: now we have a Democratic Socialist mayor. And yeah, I 549 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: mean I My hope is a I think I twofold. 550 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: I hope people like you said, continue to pay attention, 551 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: continue to hold this administration accountable, make sure they're doing 552 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: the things that they're saying they're gonna do. I also 553 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: do hope that people like give this administration grace and 554 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: patience and whatever it acknowledge the fact that it's like 555 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,239 Speaker 2: this is just one dude in office. There are you know, 556 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: plenty of other politics. A good thing I'm seeing from this, 557 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: which again we'll see, is that it sounds like, you know, 558 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: there's the politics side of it. Now. Whe're like I've 559 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: been hearing about like X y Z. These politicians have 560 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: been meeting with Mandami, who maybe were reluctant to endorse 561 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: him at the time, but now they're sitting down and 562 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: having a conversation where it's like that's going to mean 563 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: two things, where it's going to mean, yes, he probably 564 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: is gonna end up making some compromises, but that also 565 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: is going to drive those people that the art still 566 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: in power more left, Like that is going to like 567 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: signal to them like they also need to be like 568 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 2: paying attention. I think I'll be real, I was shocked 569 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: and a lot of people around me were shocked when 570 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: Kathy Hochel endorsed Mondamy because it took her a while 571 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: to do it. But I'll be real, like, I wouldn't 572 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: have been surprised if she went the whole election not 573 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: endorse him, but she did, And I think seeing that 574 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: was like a single that it was like, oh, okay, 575 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: like this is a good sign. It sounds like Democrats 576 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: are maybe learning some lessons from this, are acknowledging the 577 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: fact that it's like because there are the things people 578 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: care about, this is you know, we we've been having 579 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: this discussion about how do we get people to come 580 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: out to vote, how do we have back to the 581 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: issue of you know, with the Trump administration, there was 582 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: a whole or the Trump election, there was a whole 583 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: conversation about young white men particularly that were like going 584 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: real right wing, that were showing up for Trump or whatever. 585 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: Young white men again some of the lower percentages as 586 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: opposed to other groups in New York City that were 587 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: voting for Mom Donnie, but still majority voted for Mom Donnie. 588 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: Another thing that I thought was really interesting from this 589 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 2: campaign there was a whole kind of movement within the 590 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: Mom Donny campaign that was called howt Girls for Zoran? 591 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: Have you heard about any of this? Oh my god. 592 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: That was really funny because who ever tweeted that, they 593 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: were like they made a joke or they were like 594 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: the guy from Young Sheldon and everybody. They were like, 595 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: people are mad at me for not knowing who he is. 596 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: I know who he is. It's oh my god, it's 597 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 2: it's like very famous. Uh the but it's a bit, 598 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: which I was like, yeah, somebody who but uh yes, famously, 599 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: that to me was another like generational divine moment because 600 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I like, I had so many friends that 601 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: I have those T shirts that I was like, this 602 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: is so funny. I really wanted a hots for fun 603 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: But if anybody can find all those and now it's 604 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: too late, well whatever. But like that was funny to 605 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: me because it was like, I like, those are really 606 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: things where I could see how like maybe somebody for 607 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 2: like an older generation could see that and be like, 608 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: is this misogynistic? Is this I don't know? But it 609 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: was like no, like I don't even know how to 610 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: exactly explain it. I think because it was started by 611 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 2: like young women. It wasn't started by him. It wasn't 612 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: starting It was started by like young women that were 613 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: volunteering in his campaign. That was sort of like it 614 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: was like a bit, it's like hot girls vote for Zauron, 615 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: you know, like it's the uh. And I again, I've 616 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: seen some criticism of an online and people being like, 617 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if we should be 618 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: like associating like hotness and beauty with like good But 619 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: it was like, I don't know, it's a funny. It 620 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: was a funny bit. It was fun like to me, 621 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: it was like a lighthearted thing. And then I bring 622 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 2: this up because the Cuomo campaign, one of their last 623 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: ditch efforts they tried launching and like the last month 624 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: this also again it was way too late for this, 625 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: but they tried launching cool girls for Cuomo, uh, which 626 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: just doesn't hit no votomo. That's what they would say. 627 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: I'll be real like it was, but it was it 628 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: was kind of funny because it did feel like it 629 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: was like and I think it was like his daughter 630 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: is somebody had come up with it, like it was 631 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: like a young woman on or not. I actually know. 632 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: I don't think it was his daughter. It was it 633 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: was somebody who was like a young woman working on 634 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: the combo campaign. But it was like like when I 635 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: first heard about it, I was like, this feels like 636 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: the like boomer response to how how girls for Zoran 637 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: not understanding what it is, not understanding that. It's kind 638 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: of like it's kind of a bit like it's not 639 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 2: really like I don't know, like it's it's like hot 640 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: girl in the like hot girl summer like Megan the 641 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: Stallion way, not in the like yeah, Victoria's secret models. 642 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: So I knew nothing about that that. 643 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what was inter because I was 644 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: like seeing the quote, like I was like, I can't 645 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 2: even explain what the disconnection is. But this does feel 646 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: like the boomer attempts to rebrand that, but like they're 647 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: just not getting what the actual bit is. 648 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: Uh, that might be a millennial cringe thing, I'm assuming. 649 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm assuming I did note that Mandan was a Miranda. 650 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: He was a Miranda. He yeah, Well Cynthia Nixon, h 651 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: nor Sam. There were photos Van more than Cynthia Nixon 652 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: was running for governor wearing a shirt that says I'm 653 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: a Miranda, but I vote for Cynthia or whatever. Yeah, 654 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: was on her campaign staff. Yeah, yeah, which I found interested. 655 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's kind of funny. 656 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: Let's go welcome many. 657 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 2: Ohow I didn't, but I sure did. Put in the 658 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: city's true, that's true. We need the like the Star 659 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: Wars Sex and the city like the thing. We'll do. Yeah, 660 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure I will find one, will find one and 661 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: we'll do a live reading on the show. I guess. 662 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I think I've already already read one. Well, I've 663 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: read a lot of things. 664 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: I sure have. Oh one. I actually I did promise 665 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: I'll do I'll do a quick Okay. At the top, 666 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 2: I was talking about how I don't think we should 667 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: stand politicians. I made the mistake of commenting on a 668 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: TikTok that went viral that was somebody edited together clips 669 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: of Zaron Bumdani and Cuomo and the TV show Daredevil. Uh, 670 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: because they were pointing out the fact that he kind 671 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: of looks like the dudeh plays Daredevil and that what's 672 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: his face Fisk, the bad guy in that show. Uh, 673 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 2: looks a little bit like we not really, they're most 674 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: just sort of like old dudes. But like somebody was 675 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: editing together clips of it. It was a funny it 676 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: was a well made edit. I was sort of like, 677 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: this is a little bit ridiculous. Guys, I don't know 678 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: if we should be doing this. I did make the 679 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: mistake though, if you're familiar with the Daredevil franchise, I 680 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: made the mistake of commenting on this video. Uh, this 681 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: is a no. If you ever have a funny joke 682 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: du at the video, don't comment because you're just gonna 683 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: get a bunch of notifications and you're not gonna benefit 684 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 2: from it, which is what's happening to me right now. 685 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: I mean I commented it was like, does this mean 686 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: that Curtis lee Wah is the punisher? 687 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: Uh? 688 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 2: And I'm getting I can tell in the responses who 689 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: my guess, at least of who actually lives in has 690 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: slash has been to New York and people that have not, 691 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: because some people are like, oh my god, that's so funny. Yes, 692 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 2: and then the other half the comments are people being 693 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: like absolutely not, was this like dangerous racist vigilante? How 694 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: dare you compare him to The Punisher, whose character is 695 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: being a dangerous vigilante? Wait, there was the point where I. 696 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 5: Was like, hey, you guys know that, like the Punisher 697 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 5: is kind of inspired by he is not pro cop 698 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 5: like that love and like, I don't know, this is 699 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 5: the wholy thing. 700 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: I understand the back. I love the character of the Punitor, 701 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: I love the Punisher TV show. I agree with a 702 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: lot of the like, yes, he's not pro cop, he's 703 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: an anti cop. It is weird that like cops have 704 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: sort of and Whitesprepa says, have have co opted a 705 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: lot of his logos and stuff like that. That being said, 706 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: he's also not a like woke hero, Like he's still 707 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: a dude whose entire thing is like taking vigilante justice 708 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 2: too far. I don't know, Like I was like, it's 709 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: still a cautionary title, guys, We're aware of this, right, 710 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: It's I think actually he might be fairly similar to 711 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 2: courteous Lee Wap. But so yeah, my two points there 712 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 2: One funny video. I've seen way too many people editing 713 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: together videos of fictional characters and Zora and Mom Donnie 714 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: and trying to argue they're the same. Stop stop doing this, 715 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: let's not do this. But then also, yes, if the 716 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: notifications have been a lot, please stop liking my comment. 717 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: I should have just to edit the video and at 718 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 2: least gotten the likes on my page instead of just yeah. 719 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: I did see somebody had cross fisted its Twitter and 720 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: then like somebody had commented with a screenshot of my comment, 721 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: and I was like, that's me, that's my face, that 722 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: is my face. Why didn't know? Crazy how you post 723 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 2: stuff on the internet and it just social it gets 724 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 2: out there. 725 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: Wow, the Internet finds a way. As they say, well 726 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: once again, Joey, thank you so much for being here. 727 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: We had a. 728 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: Lot to talk about as always, and thank you for 729 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: you got the Marvel. We didn't get a start. 730 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: One more. Matt Murdoch absolutely would be a Miranda Lawyers. 731 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: You know, there we go. I'm going to start applying this. 732 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: I've never applied this to fictional characters, to other fictional characters. 733 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: Maybe more of Miranda. 734 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 2: I'll come back to it. 735 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 3: I'll think on it. 736 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to think of This is serious business. 737 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 2: We've got to get Yeah, Yeah, what do you think 738 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: Luke Skywalker would be in here? 739 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: I would have to think about it. 740 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm. 741 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 6: Like yeah, I was like first, I was like, I 742 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 6: want to say carry just because it's like he's a 743 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 6: little he's a little in his own world, maybe a 744 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 6: little bit of Charlotte She always like. 745 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: This kind of romantic I can save him. 746 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm actually going to give this 747 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: serious consideration. Yeah, this is important to my characterization of 748 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: writing Luke Skywalker. So I'm not going to think about that. 749 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 2: It really is. It really is. 750 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: Send me your thoughts, I listen, don't offer or I will. 751 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: You know, I've got essays, you. 752 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: Know, I want you to send me these. We had 753 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 2: a two hour conversation last week about this. 754 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: Careful what you wish for? But yes, but thank you, 755 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: yes for being here, for being our New York correspondent. 756 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: We always get to love seeing you when we go 757 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: to New York. 758 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we will. 759 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll revisit this in the future. But in 760 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: the meantime, where can the good listeners find you? 761 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: Hi? You can find me on Instagram, Slash some Twitter, 762 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: but I'm not really there on there anymore. I did 763 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 2: just have to reactivate my Blue Sky account because one 764 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: of my other shows has been using blue Sky a lot. 765 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to be on there, but any of 766 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: the social media platforms you can find me at pat 767 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: not PRAT. That's p A t T n OT p 768 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 2: R A t T. You can also hear other shows 769 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: that I work on. I in addition to being on 770 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 2: this podcast, occasionally I am on the show There Are 771 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: No Girls on the Internet with Bridge to Todd. I 772 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: also am a producer for the Outspoken Slate at my Heart, 773 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 2: So if you want to hear some of my behind 774 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: the scenes work, you can check out After Lives mentioned 775 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 2: that earlier on the show, Season two is out now, 776 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 2: and the show Black dot Bem, which is also available 777 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. Both of those shows actually 778 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 2: were recent Signal Award winners, so yay, we love that. 779 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: But yeah yeah check those out. Oh and sorry and 780 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 2: also Outlaws the ts Madison podcast. I also work on 781 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: that one. Yeah check that out. 782 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: Listeners, go check all the stuff out if you haven't already, 783 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: and thank you again Joey for being here and listeners. 784 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: If you would like to contact us, you can you 785 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: can email us at Hello at Stuffhanever Told You dot Com. 786 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: You can find us on Blue Skype, Mom Stuff podcast, 787 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: or on Instagram and TikTok at stuff I Never Told You. 788 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: We're also on YouTube. We have some new merchandise at 789 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: copp Bureau, and we have but you can get wherever 790 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: you get your books. Thanks us always too, our super 791 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: produce Christina, our executive produced Maya, and your contributor Joey. 792 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: Thank you and thanks to you for listening. Stefan Never 793 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: Told You is production by Heart Radio. For more podcasts 794 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: from my heart Radio, you can check out the heart 795 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your 796 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: favorite shows.