WEBVTT - Life’s a Beach with Stephen Colletti 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:07.920 I'm not sure if we were all going to be 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:13.200 on this podcast together. If the deep breaths and the 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:22.439 out of breath breath, I'm so everyone's just take I 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.520 felt better if you're driving, if you are wherever you're at. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.440 Did everyone just take a big deep breath on the 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:36.239 counter three? Yeah? Always did it my head. I have 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.120 to say that I never am excited when anyone is 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.680 dressed out. I don't like anyone to feel that way, 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.000 But in today, I didn't want to feel alone in it. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.080 So I'm a little relieved that we're all on the 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:53.120 same page, the best page. Well it's it's funny, I'm 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.840 not funny. But I got a text from KB saying 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.400 that she was struggling, and I was like, oh, what so, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.560 but she never responded back, so didn't know if she 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.920 was going to be on the podcast. And then, um, 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.520 today is Mike's you know, turned to have the kids, 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.840 and so he's at work, and so his uh because 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.680 there was no school today, So that also adds the 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.560 layer of like, well I have work to do today too, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.560 you know, and so uh like, and so I had 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.200 asked that his parents were towns. I was like, hey, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.039 can you I thought what I what I thought I 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.240 said in my brain was I'm recording at ten and 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.040 I know I said ten, but I think he heard 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.800 around ten or maybe I did say around ten. And 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.200 so when I was like when your parents coming, it 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:36.640 was like ten thirty, I'm like no, no no, no, like 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.080 I'm gonna be in the middle of talking to Stephen 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.120 COLLETI at ten, you know, ten thirty, like we gotta 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.160 and so then I start to get I got frustrated, 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.760 and um, I end up having to apologize. But sometimes 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.720 it was ended up being a decent conversation because if 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.720 I'm like, having seventy is a lot, and sometimes I 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:58.280 feel like frustrated at times when I'm overworked and overtired, 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.520 and it just all kind of falls on and like 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.480 he's you know, So it was ended up, but I 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.640 was like, my frustration should not have been taken out 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.920 on you. So I'm sorry, that's good. Yeah, I'll let 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.040 you know when I apologize. Okay, well then let's throw 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:16.280 the let's throw o what in the heart of Florida. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.519 I'm walking said door over there so that you guys 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.880 don't see the absolute s h I t show that's 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.320 going in and on because I requested sixty minutes of 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:30.760 silence in a home and I can't get it. I 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.840 don't know what kind of circus is going on behind me. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.880 But I was like, I will just turn the camera 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.519 and I'll let you know when I apologize. But I 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.960 wouldn't hold anyone's breath. Who do we need to apologize to? 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:49.840 I don't know because I'm just not in apologizing. Name 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:54.720 one person I should apologize that one? Well it's you know, 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.240 oh the lightest one. There you go. It was it 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.120 was something like in a way like I was able 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.440 to because something was said that I go. I go. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.840 Sometimes I just don't think I go. And it was 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.320 like once I apologize, I was like, can I express 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.959 my maybe frustration? He was like, yeah, you know, I 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.160 thank you for apologizing. I said, you know there will 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:15.799 be comments of like, well, how didn't you know that 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.920 this was going on? Or like let's say there was 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.760 like this news article and I'm like, because I don't 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.120 have time to I'm like when of the kids go 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.959 to bed, I'm like, I have the kids seventy all 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.040 the time. I don't have time to like look at 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.040 things or do things or like did he ask you 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.480 how you don't know? Like there was something there was 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.120 some article or whatever and or something I don't know, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.440 some movie that came out or it was like something. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.120 I was like, I know, I don't know. I'm like 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.240 I I'm busy, and he's like, well, so am I. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.200 And then I'm like, uh, it's it's hard for me 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.240 because I'm like that's you know, with the kids. I'm like, 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.640 I don't sometimes I feel like, you know, I'm like, 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.320 he goes right like two weeks in the month with that, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.520 Like it's not fifty fifty right. So this is another 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.240 thing too. I'm I just gonna say this because it's 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.920 I've been getting like a lot of mom hate recently 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.160 about me traveling to England and places because do I 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.960 ever see my kids? And I'm like, I don't have 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.880 the typical fifty fifty week on week off right, like 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.679 it is, uh, you know, every Wednesday and then every 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.159 Friday Saturday. But I've been recently being like, hey, like 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.279 Jace even mentions like when he doesn't see you for 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.200 two weeks out of the month, it's those weeks are 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:28.919 hard for him. So do you can I add a 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.920 few days so that I can also have a break 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.039 and maybe take a week to myself, because I would 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.960 love to know what a week feels like to not have, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.520 you know, because that's also whatever. And so you know, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.200 so this month he's letting me have not letting me, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:43.960 but he's been able to work in a schedule to 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:45.719 let me have a week off, right, So I'm like, 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.320 that's gonna be nice to have that time too. So 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.480 but sometimes when I don't feel like I'm like, I 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.080 don't have anyone to say like, good job, you're doing 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.480 a great job. I get online hater saying I'm not 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.599 you know, I'm being and not making time for the kids. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.479 And then I have no one, like I don't have 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.240 a partner being like you're doing a great job. Like 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:04.840 my boyfriend says it to me, is like you're such 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.640 a great mom, and it's so sweet. And then I'm 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.840 also like, but I still you don't do you know 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.520 what I'm trying to say, Like, I just don't feel 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.000 like I need to freaking crown or pat on the back, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.920 but I also like some appreciation to be like, hey, 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.240 I appreciate all the work you do. I don't know, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.719 but that's because I shouldn't because you'r mom so well. Also, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.600 I just don't think you're gonna get it from him. Yeah, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.960 And and that's probably where you're seeking it. It is 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.839 in a weird way. I'm gonna get it like in 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.360 this kind of like weird like I just want you 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.799 to acknowledge, like you only have thirty or whatever percent 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.680 of the time, but you're doing a great job. And 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.800 I just don't think you're gonna get Yes, yeah, I 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.640 only have let me put myself mathematics, you know what 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.719 I mean, right, But I think that's where you're seeking 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:49.960 it is from him, and you're just not going to 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.640 get it from him. And that's things on this one. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.440 My therapist tells me all the time, you cannot go 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.680 to the hardware store for bread lots the same therapist 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:04.240 because you told me milk. So yeah, I have a 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.279 dairy intolerance along with a lot of other intolerances today. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:12.560 So and the other thing I think that I I 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.520 struggled with when I became a state at home mom 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.560 is that And I think a lot of moms feel 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.640 this way, even if you're not a state at home mom. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:23.200 But like there's no like annual review for us. There's 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.960 no like hauling you into the office and tell you 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.800 all the great things you've done or just how you're 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.400 nailing it. I mean you can kind of. You have 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.960 to find your winds kind of disguised and a little 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.159 you have to dust them off sometimes to be able 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.679 to see them. And it just feels like a little 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:44.800 defeating sometimes because you're clients aren't the most grateful, you know, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:46.480 Like I feel like they won't see it until they 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.120 were like twenties to be like, wow, mom, thanks for 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.359 everything with it. You know, they're better see it in 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.320 their twenties better. I'm they may not. They may not. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.520 They may be in therapy complaining about us. I don't 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.040 know therapy for opposite reasons of me. They're going to 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.119 be in therapy because I smother them and I breathe 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.880 their air every five seconds. We're doing the best we can. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.479 I will say that my ex he did say, like, Janna, 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.400 even if like you did, He's like, I know how 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.840 you operate. Even if you did have the time off. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.440 He's like, you're still going to be working really hard. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.760 I'm like, yes, So it's like I think it eventually, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.760 like he was able to acknowledge and like see and 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.440 then he's like I'm trying to be He's like, I 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:22.880 would like to be helpful, and I'm like, well, I 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.160 do offer. It's just schedules are always so hard, you know, 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.600 so but hopefully we'll get into some kind of rhythm. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.720 And I just but that really bummed me out because 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.120 I'm like a lot of the comments that I was 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.840 reading is like when would because I'm almost afraid to 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.960 post when I'm in England because I'm afraid of like 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.600 the shamers to be like, oh there she is again, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.840 not with her kids. I'm like that if I had 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.600 a week on week off schedule like most families or something. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.240 Not most, but like a lot of people at fifty fifty, 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.920 like they're not getting shame for going away. No, no, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.320 And here's the deal, you're just I mean that it's 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.880 they're going to complain about something. But it's the it's 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.200 the moms and the women complaining to It's not a man, 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.920 do mean this. It's because they are jealous of the 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.680 fact that they can't do that. Now you do have 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:08.920 the means, so how can they don't say to the guys, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.200 you only had to kiss of the time, it's reflecting themselves. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.600 It's just reflecting. So with all the time they spend 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.720 hating on you online, they could get a hobby or 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.040 take a trip. Yeah. Well, I mean like I'm just 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.280 kind of like, yeah, I'm keeping things more private, even 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.760 though hilarious the message that christ And sent me the 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.880 other day or us too on h on our group chat, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.839 She's like, wait, what did you say? You're like, I 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:37.000 can't breathe, it's out. What happened? Oh no, At first 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.720 I tested the accuracy and the I was actually just 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.040 testing to make sure the group chat worked because it 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.920 was there was no group chat happening. It was silent. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.800 And then all of a sudden, and I haven't been 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.319 scrolling on Instagram as part of my way of caring 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.040 for myself, and all of a sudden, I see that 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.240 we've gone public, and I was like, just first, let 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:56.720 me just test and see if the group chat works, 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.959 because I think I've missed several things. You know, how 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:05.880 I found wait, how did you find found out? From 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.920 getting tagged from someone that was like did you know? 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.640 And I was like, well I do, now I had 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.400 no idea. Well, I figured it's the last podcast we 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.520 mentioned his name, so the I'm like, you know, it's 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.920 screw it. Like he was in town for those sweet 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.280 twenty something hours and then we went to the One hotel, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.080 which is you know, where we had our first date, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.840 and so I said it would kind of be cute too. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.679 It was cute, snap a little pie. I was so 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.560 speaking of though, And no, we did not meet on Riyah. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.920 Can I just clear that one off right now? We 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:43.400 did not meet on Riya? So what is? Can you 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.520 clarify what Riot is? For people that don't know what 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.800 Riot is? What is but Ryan? I know? But outside 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.440 of our world, not a lot of people know about. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:58.880 Is like a celebrity slash friends of coolish job dating app. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.679 So it some you know, I've seen a bunch of 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.880 people on there that you know, our actors and musicians 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.240 and but he and athlete athletes. He was not. We 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.520 did not meet on Riyah. I have so much to 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.160 say about all of that. I just I don't know. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.000 I just I'm like, how does this stuff people just 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.400 assume that, like we put that stuff out there, and 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.960 it's just infuriating to me. It's just just so fresh 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.840 and I like your mood today, I'm kind of feisty today, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:38.319 I'd no, I don't know. I'm just like over that, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.839 you know, I'm over that narrative that we just like 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.160 let's just throw it out there to all the stupid 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.480 tabloids that I mean, it's not even like news like 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.679 you know what I mean, It's like Ellen's coming in town, right, 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.400 I don't know. It's just silly to me. But I 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.320 was coming to church. I did sweet boy. I didn't 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.120 get to like talk to him much boy church, but 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:04.400 man was chilly, and I thought you were going to 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.240 comment on it because he was wearing a turtle neck 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:07.839 because he always has a turtle mick on whenever he 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.280 talks to KB. I feel like I've only seen I 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:18.320 love a man um So how did you do then? 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.400 With like the window after posting? Honestly, haven't even looked. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.640 Don't care, Oh good God, don't care at all. Good 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.559 for you. The only thing that bothers me is when 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.120 people now at the moment is when they attack my motherhood. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.520 Or that's why I'm like, yeah, I'm going to England 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.840 because I'm I'm taking a week out of this month. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.480 Like that's something that my ex and I discuss, like, hey, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.520 can I have a week somewhere to be able to 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.000 have time to go over there. Um and you know, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.400 uh and just have some time and uh so yeah, so, 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.240 but I feel almost guilty to say that I'm there, 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.640 Like genuinely was thinking, like, Okay, I don't want to 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.520 post it because I don't want people to think that 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:04.600 I'm not with my kids. Yeah are terrible. You're just 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.240 gonna have to live your life. Oh I am, and 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.040 you and their dad has them, You gave them, gave 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.719 him that option. It's not even yeah. I'm like, it's 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.600 the thing. I'm like, they think I'm withholding too. I'm like, no, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.240 I've I always offer. That's the it's in the contract. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.719 You have to it's first fail. So you know, they 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.600 think that you don't. That's and I'm like, oh my gosh, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.559 but you know, I do feel like we're at least 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.760 on a really good um. Him and I are really 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.080 doing a good job of co parenting. Sometimes it's just 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.040 hard having that when one parent has more of the 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.880 responsibility and the pressure and the workload. It's it can 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.920 be I have a hard time when something that triggers 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.920 me to not be like, you have no idea what 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.720 I'm like do you have no idea what I'm like doing? 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.880 And like how hard? Like you know? So it's I 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.600 have to balance that, which I then called them was like, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.680 I'm sorry, that's not I don't need to be saying 0:12:53.679 --> 0:13:00.680 that to you. That's not that's not yours to hear anymore. Yeah, Hi, guys, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.600 I kind of want to go back to I want 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.240 to go back, like way back, like the hills, Laguna 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.839 Beach back. Yes, and we have Steven Clutty in the 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.480 waiting room, so let's take a break and then get 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:30.680 him on. Oh so excited to have Stephen Clutty on 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:36.000 Wine Downy back to the back to the beach, babe. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:41.000 What's so it's like the opposite of winding down in 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.360 the afternoon. I want the audience to know that it 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:48.320 is in the morning here in Los Angeles, rising and 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.920 shining for the Wine Down podcast. And um, yeah, I'm 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.080 expecting some sort of a delivery, a door dash of 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.920 maybe a bloody Mary or something. What do you guys 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:04.760 got coming for me? I'm a child myself. That's that's enough. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.559 Do you want How old are you? How old are you? Stephen? 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.080 I am thirty six. I turned thirty seven in a 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.480 week depending on when this comes out February seven, then 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.679 we're thirty seven. I feel like you're always going to 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.640 be twenty six or twenty because when did we do one? Like, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.320 I feel like you're always going to be twenty four 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:28.680 to me? Oh, I mean yeah, I um, I feel 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.760 you know, I think I feel somewhere in my my 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:35.120 late twenties. Yeah, well we'll say that I hopefully. But um, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.120 I love that you you know, I feel that that 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.640 I'm definitely for much more immature for my age. No, 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.040 you just you haven't aged a second. I mean you 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.800 still look exactly how you were, very kind of you. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.200 You see how we want to say it back because 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:56.800 I have definitely aged you still like three. Okay, So 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.040 whose whose idea was it to do back to the 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.720 beach with you and Kristin. Well, it's something I wanted 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.600 to do for a while. It's something that um, yeah, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.160 I thought about. Um. I think the first time I 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.960 talked about it actually with with MTV was in in 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:16.120 two thousand eighteen. Um, I brought it up in just 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.560 a general meeting with them about some things, and yeah, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.400 I think from there um and it had just been 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.520 you know, it's been circling my mind for a while, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.040 and I thought, you know, entering the podcast space was 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.440 something that was interested in doing. And really, I think 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.920 the only thing people would care about what I had 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.240 to say was was my experience on that show, um 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.880 or at least be the more you know, worthwhile for them. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.240 So yeah, that's it was. It was mine from the jump. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.960 And um yeah after you know, we did a little 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:49.480 reunion with some of the cast Forget Out the Vote 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.760 Back and let's see how that was a couple of 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.120 years ago now, um, and that was you know, we 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.480 had a great experience to everybody, and and you know, 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.440 we we never really got together and spoke about everything, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.680 and so yeah, we we felt like after that, everyone 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.160 was like, we gotta get together and do that again 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.480 or all be in the same place. And and so 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.400 I felt like, um, you know, this space was was 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.840 a good spot for that. So I know, obviously you 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.320 were in high school when you were doing Laguna Beach 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.200 and when I were talking to Audrina a lot of 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.600 things and she's like, I wish I would have had 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.520 more of a voice, um with how maybe the producers 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.280 would have um asked me to do certain things where 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.560 I felt kind of like not forced in a way 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.560 to like to to to do to do X, and um, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.520 maybe that she wishes that she could kind of go 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:39.920 back and have more of a voice is or something 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.200 where I obviously I know you're not a big regret person, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.560 but is there something where you were like, Okay, I 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.960 wish I could have maybe done this differently. Yeah, I 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.320 mean there's there's there's a lot if you look at 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.160 I mean, what were you doing in high school, Like, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.480 do you look back on some of the things that 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.520 you're doing and going like, oh man, I wish I 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.760 handled that differently. You know, there's there's a lot. I 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:07.159 mean I think that, um, we truly underestimated the power 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:08.680 of what the editing was going to be with the 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.719 show and how the storylines can really be carved into 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.679 what the editors and producers desired. I think it was 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.960 just so naive back then. Um, and they recorded so 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:20.959 many hours of us Like I mean, it wasn't an 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.640 everyday deal, but they just had so much footage and 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.359 you really didn't know until the show came out, so 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.399 by that point it was it was too late. But 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.320 you know, I look back at a few times, especially 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.760 watching the show you see times were clearly I've been 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.439 drinking and I'm drunk, and it's like you you like 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.560 that on camera. It's not that's that's not you know, 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.120 um classy in any way, not attractive at all. And 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.200 and it's cringe e to watch, especially when you're an 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.400 eighteen year old kid and just the things that come 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.160 flying out of your mouth at that age. And and yeah, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:54.840 so I think, you know, I look back at some 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.639 moments like that when I tell people, you know, if 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.919 they're ever gonna get on the reality show, you know, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.520 you just just be careful with monitoring the intake there. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.199 H Do you feel like the producer you guys then 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.360 got like taking advantage of them with that situation. I mean, 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:16.040 I I look, we were I take responsibility for my actions. Um, 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.000 you know everything I did at that age. Uh yeah, 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.520 I I I could only put it there. But look, 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.080 I mean it's it's something where you know when um, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.000 if if you look at a lot of shows in 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.919 reality TV now, I think that those moments where you 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.280 know the producers are hoping it's going to kind of 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.080 go there, they never put us in those positions, those 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.480 positions and tried to encourage it on us. In fact, 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.399 that they did the opposite over there. They you know, 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.520 they told us that that we couldn't drink. Now, um, 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.560 you know, were they gonna enforce it? No what I 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.680 have and if I was in their position, no, trying 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.120 to make a TV show and they know what gets 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.080 good stuff. Um, but yeah, I mean, you know, the 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.200 show that they created in the environment for us to 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.280 kind of live and um, you know, be kids, was 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.000 was always a comfortable one. The one that you know, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:04.960 we enjoyed the crew. The crew was amazing, and the 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:06.399 people we were on the show with we really had 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.400 a great time with. But um, you know, you look 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.159 back hindsight obviously here on on a lot of okay, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.639 what I could have done differently, and maybe you know, 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.760 they were definitely situations where I'm sure you know, gave 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.840 him the truth. Serum. They were hoping that like on 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.280 these nights, the kids were gonna partake a little bit 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.280 and have a little fun and let loose and that 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.679 will make for some juicy TV. And sure enough it happened. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.439 So at the end of the day, I signed up 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.679 to be on the show, So I know, I couldn't 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.960 even imagine though looking back on our our real high school, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.360 high school, real you know, and then to have that 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.240 then to have to go back and watch it. You know. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.680 The thing that I love about doing it now, for 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.560 so many years that show was in a very weird 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:49.200 place in my life. Um. It's just again the shock 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:50.720 of when it came out and what it was and 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.879 what they were highlighting and the pieces that they use, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:59.240 especially back then when you know, every the episodes are 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.359 twenty two and it's and they have to jam that 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.600 stuff in. So they're just like, it's just what are like, 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.480 what's the stuff that's gonna you know, it's catched the 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.960 most eyeballs and be the most the shock value of course, um, 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:17.200 and so all that's that's the stuff that's making it in. UM. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.879 So you know, for years after that, it was just 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.040 you know, in denial that the thing basically existed, you know, 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.320 a very odd relationship with it all, and thought it 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.560 was silly to get the attention, um for for just 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.119 like being a bunch of knuckleheads at that at that 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.440