1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we were all going to be 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: on this podcast together. If the deep breaths and the 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: out of breath breath, I'm so everyone's just take I 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: felt better if you're driving, if you are wherever you're at. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Did everyone just take a big deep breath on the 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: counter three? Yeah? Always did it my head. I have 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: to say that I never am excited when anyone is 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: dressed out. I don't like anyone to feel that way, 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: But in today, I didn't want to feel alone in it. 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: So I'm a little relieved that we're all on the 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: same page, the best page. Well it's it's funny, I'm 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: not funny. But I got a text from KB saying 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: that she was struggling, and I was like, oh, what so, 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: but she never responded back, so didn't know if she 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: was going to be on the podcast. And then, um, 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: today is Mike's you know, turned to have the kids, 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: and so he's at work, and so his uh because 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: there was no school today, So that also adds the 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: layer of like, well I have work to do today too, 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, and so uh like, and so I had 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: asked that his parents were towns. I was like, hey, 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: can you I thought what I what I thought I 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: said in my brain was I'm recording at ten and 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I know I said ten, but I think he heard 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: around ten or maybe I did say around ten. And 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: so when I was like when your parents coming, it 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: was like ten thirty, I'm like no, no no, no, like 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in the middle of talking to Stephen 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: COLLETI at ten, you know, ten thirty, like we gotta 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: and so then I start to get I got frustrated, 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: and um, I end up having to apologize. But sometimes 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: it was ended up being a decent conversation because if 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, having seventy is a lot, and sometimes I 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: feel like frustrated at times when I'm overworked and overtired, 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: and it just all kind of falls on and like 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: he's you know, So it was ended up, but I 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: was like, my frustration should not have been taken out 39 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: on you. So I'm sorry, that's good. Yeah, I'll let 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: you know when I apologize. Okay, well then let's throw 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: the let's throw o what in the heart of Florida. 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: I'm walking said door over there so that you guys 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: don't see the absolute s h I t show that's 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: going in and on because I requested sixty minutes of 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: silence in a home and I can't get it. I 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: don't know what kind of circus is going on behind me. 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: But I was like, I will just turn the camera 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: and I'll let you know when I apologize. But I 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't hold anyone's breath. Who do we need to apologize to? 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know because I'm just not in apologizing. Name 51 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: one person I should apologize that one? Well it's you know, 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: oh the lightest one. There you go. It was it 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: was something like in a way like I was able 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: to because something was said that I go. I go. 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes I just don't think I go. And it was 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: like once I apologize, I was like, can I express 57 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: my maybe frustration? He was like, yeah, you know, I 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: thank you for apologizing. I said, you know there will 59 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: be comments of like, well, how didn't you know that 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: this was going on? Or like let's say there was 61 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: like this news article and I'm like, because I don't 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: have time to I'm like when of the kids go 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: to bed, I'm like, I have the kids seventy all 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: the time. I don't have time to like look at 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: things or do things or like did he ask you 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: how you don't know? Like there was something there was 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: some article or whatever and or something I don't know, 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: some movie that came out or it was like something. 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I don't know. I'm like 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I I'm busy, and he's like, well, so am I. 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, uh, it's it's hard for me 72 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: because I'm like that's you know, with the kids. I'm like, 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't sometimes I feel like, you know, I'm like, 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: he goes right like two weeks in the month with that, 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Like it's not fifty fifty right. So this is another 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: thing too. I'm I just gonna say this because it's 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I've been getting like a lot of mom hate recently 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: about me traveling to England and places because do I 79 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: ever see my kids? And I'm like, I don't have 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: the typical fifty fifty week on week off right, like 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: it is, uh, you know, every Wednesday and then every 82 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: Friday Saturday. But I've been recently being like, hey, like 83 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: Jace even mentions like when he doesn't see you for 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: two weeks out of the month, it's those weeks are 85 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: hard for him. So do you can I add a 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: few days so that I can also have a break 87 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: and maybe take a week to myself, because I would 88 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: love to know what a week feels like to not have, 89 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, because that's also whatever. And so you know, 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: so this month he's letting me have not letting me, 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: but he's been able to work in a schedule to 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: let me have a week off, right, So I'm like, 93 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be nice to have that time too. So 94 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: but sometimes when I don't feel like I'm like, I 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: don't have anyone to say like, good job, you're doing 96 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: a great job. I get online hater saying I'm not 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: you know, I'm being and not making time for the kids. 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: And then I have no one, like I don't have 99 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: a partner being like you're doing a great job. Like 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: my boyfriend says it to me, is like you're such 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: a great mom, and it's so sweet. And then I'm 102 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: also like, but I still you don't do you know 103 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, Like, I just don't feel 104 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: like I need to freaking crown or pat on the back, 105 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: but I also like some appreciation to be like, hey, 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate all the work you do. I don't know, 107 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: but that's because I shouldn't because you'r mom so well. Also, 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think you're gonna get it from him. Yeah, 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: And and that's probably where you're seeking it. It is 110 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: in a weird way. I'm gonna get it like in 111 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: this kind of like weird like I just want you 112 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: to acknowledge, like you only have thirty or whatever percent 113 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: of the time, but you're doing a great job. And 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: I just don't think you're gonna get Yes, yeah, I 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: only have let me put myself mathematics, you know what 116 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: I mean, right, But I think that's where you're seeking 117 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: it is from him, and you're just not going to 118 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: get it from him. And that's things on this one. 119 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: My therapist tells me all the time, you cannot go 120 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: to the hardware store for bread lots the same therapist 121 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: because you told me milk. So yeah, I have a 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: dairy intolerance along with a lot of other intolerances today. 123 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: So and the other thing I think that I I 124 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: struggled with when I became a state at home mom 125 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: is that And I think a lot of moms feel 126 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: this way, even if you're not a state at home mom. 127 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: But like there's no like annual review for us. There's 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: no like hauling you into the office and tell you 129 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: all the great things you've done or just how you're 130 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: nailing it. I mean you can kind of. You have 131 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: to find your winds kind of disguised and a little 132 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: you have to dust them off sometimes to be able 133 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: to see them. And it just feels like a little 134 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: defeating sometimes because you're clients aren't the most grateful, you know, 135 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: Like I feel like they won't see it until they 136 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: were like twenties to be like, wow, mom, thanks for 137 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: everything with it. You know, they're better see it in 138 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: their twenties better. I'm they may not. They may not. 139 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: They may be in therapy complaining about us. I don't 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: know therapy for opposite reasons of me. They're going to 141 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: be in therapy because I smother them and I breathe 142 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: their air every five seconds. We're doing the best we can. 143 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: I will say that my ex he did say, like, Janna, 144 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: even if like you did, He's like, I know how 145 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: you operate. Even if you did have the time off. 146 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: He's like, you're still going to be working really hard. 147 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, So it's like I think it eventually, 148 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: like he was able to acknowledge and like see and 149 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: then he's like I'm trying to be He's like, I 150 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: would like to be helpful, and I'm like, well, I 151 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: do offer. It's just schedules are always so hard, you know, 152 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: so but hopefully we'll get into some kind of rhythm. 153 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: And I just but that really bummed me out because 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm like a lot of the comments that I was 155 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: reading is like when would because I'm almost afraid to 156 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: post when I'm in England because I'm afraid of like 157 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the shamers to be like, oh there she is again, 158 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: not with her kids. I'm like that if I had 159 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: a week on week off schedule like most families or something. 160 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: Not most, but like a lot of people at fifty fifty, 161 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: like they're not getting shame for going away. No, no, 162 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: And here's the deal, you're just I mean that it's 163 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: they're going to complain about something. But it's the it's 164 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: the moms and the women complaining to It's not a man, 165 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: do mean this. It's because they are jealous of the 166 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: fact that they can't do that. Now you do have 167 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: the means, so how can they don't say to the guys, 168 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: you only had to kiss of the time, it's reflecting themselves. 169 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: It's just reflecting. So with all the time they spend 170 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: hating on you online, they could get a hobby or 171 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: take a trip. Yeah. Well, I mean like I'm just 172 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, I'm keeping things more private, even 173 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: though hilarious the message that christ And sent me the 174 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: other day or us too on h on our group chat, 175 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: She's like, wait, what did you say? You're like, I 176 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: can't breathe, it's out. What happened? Oh no, At first 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: I tested the accuracy and the I was actually just 178 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: testing to make sure the group chat worked because it 179 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: was there was no group chat happening. It was silent. 180 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, and I haven't been 181 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: scrolling on Instagram as part of my way of caring 182 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: for myself, and all of a sudden, I see that 183 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: we've gone public, and I was like, just first, let 184 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: me just test and see if the group chat works, 185 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: because I think I've missed several things. You know, how 186 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: I found wait, how did you find found out? From 187 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: getting tagged from someone that was like did you know? 188 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, well I do, now I had 189 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: no idea. Well, I figured it's the last podcast we 190 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: mentioned his name, so the I'm like, you know, it's 191 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: screw it. Like he was in town for those sweet 192 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: twenty something hours and then we went to the One hotel, 193 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: which is you know, where we had our first date, 194 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: and so I said it would kind of be cute too. 195 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: It was cute, snap a little pie. I was so 196 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: speaking of though, And no, we did not meet on Riyah. 197 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Can I just clear that one off right now? We 198 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: did not meet on Riya? So what is? Can you 199 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: clarify what Riot is? For people that don't know what 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: Riot is? What is but Ryan? I know? But outside 201 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: of our world, not a lot of people know about. 202 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Is like a celebrity slash friends of coolish job dating app. 203 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: So it some you know, I've seen a bunch of 204 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: people on there that you know, our actors and musicians 205 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: and but he and athlete athletes. He was not. We 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: did not meet on Riyah. I have so much to 207 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: say about all of that. I just I don't know. 208 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: I just I'm like, how does this stuff people just 209 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: assume that, like we put that stuff out there, and 210 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: it's just infuriating to me. It's just just so fresh 211 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: and I like your mood today, I'm kind of feisty today, 212 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: I'd no, I don't know. I'm just like over that, 213 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: you know, I'm over that narrative that we just like 214 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: let's just throw it out there to all the stupid 215 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: tabloids that I mean, it's not even like news like 216 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like Ellen's coming in town, right, 217 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just silly to me. But I 218 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: was coming to church. I did sweet boy. I didn't 219 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: get to like talk to him much boy church, but 220 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: man was chilly, and I thought you were going to 221 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: comment on it because he was wearing a turtle neck 222 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: because he always has a turtle mick on whenever he 223 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: talks to KB. I feel like I've only seen I 224 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: love a man um So how did you do then? 225 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: With like the window after posting? Honestly, haven't even looked. 226 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Don't care, Oh good God, don't care at all. Good 227 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: for you. The only thing that bothers me is when 228 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: people now at the moment is when they attack my motherhood. 229 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Or that's why I'm like, yeah, I'm going to England 230 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm taking a week out of this month. 231 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: Like that's something that my ex and I discuss, like, hey, 232 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: can I have a week somewhere to be able to 233 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: have time to go over there. Um and you know, 234 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: uh and just have some time and uh so yeah, so, 235 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: but I feel almost guilty to say that I'm there, 236 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Like genuinely was thinking, like, Okay, I don't want to 237 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: post it because I don't want people to think that 238 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not with my kids. Yeah are terrible. You're just 239 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to live your life. Oh I am, and 240 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: you and their dad has them, You gave them, gave 241 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: him that option. It's not even yeah. I'm like, it's 242 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: the thing. I'm like, they think I'm withholding too. I'm like, no, 243 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: I've I always offer. That's the it's in the contract. 244 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: You have to it's first fail. So you know, they 245 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: think that you don't. That's and I'm like, oh my gosh, 246 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: but you know, I do feel like we're at least 247 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: on a really good um. Him and I are really 248 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: doing a good job of co parenting. Sometimes it's just 249 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: hard having that when one parent has more of the 250 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: responsibility and the pressure and the workload. It's it can 251 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: be I have a hard time when something that triggers 252 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: me to not be like, you have no idea what 253 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm like do you have no idea what I'm like doing? 254 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: And like how hard? Like you know? So it's I 255 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: have to balance that, which I then called them was like, 256 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's not I don't need to be saying 257 00:12:53,679 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: that to you. That's not that's not yours to hear anymore. Yeah, Hi, guys, 258 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: I kind of want to go back to I want 259 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: to go back, like way back, like the hills, Laguna 260 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: Beach back. Yes, and we have Steven Clutty in the 261 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: waiting room, so let's take a break and then get 262 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: him on. Oh so excited to have Stephen Clutty on 263 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Wine Downy back to the back to the beach, babe. 264 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: What's so it's like the opposite of winding down in 265 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: the afternoon. I want the audience to know that it 266 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: is in the morning here in Los Angeles, rising and 267 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: shining for the Wine Down podcast. And um, yeah, I'm 268 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: expecting some sort of a delivery, a door dash of 269 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: maybe a bloody Mary or something. What do you guys 270 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: got coming for me? I'm a child myself. That's that's enough. 271 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: Do you want How old are you? How old are you? Stephen? 272 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I am thirty six. I turned thirty seven in a 273 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: week depending on when this comes out February seven, then 274 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: we're thirty seven. I feel like you're always going to 275 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: be twenty six or twenty because when did we do one? Like, 276 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: I feel like you're always going to be twenty four 277 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: to me? Oh, I mean yeah, I um, I feel 278 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think I feel somewhere in my my 279 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: late twenties. Yeah, well we'll say that I hopefully. But um, 280 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: I love that you you know, I feel that that 281 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm definitely for much more immature for my age. No, 282 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: you just you haven't aged a second. I mean you 283 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: still look exactly how you were, very kind of you. 284 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: You see how we want to say it back because 285 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I have definitely aged you still like three. Okay, So 286 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: whose whose idea was it to do back to the 287 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: beach with you and Kristin. Well, it's something I wanted 288 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: to do for a while. It's something that um, yeah, 289 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: I thought about. Um. I think the first time I 290 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: talked about it actually with with MTV was in in 291 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. Um, I brought it up in just 292 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: a general meeting with them about some things, and yeah, 293 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I think from there um and it had just been 294 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's been circling my mind for a while, 295 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, entering the podcast space was 296 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: something that was interested in doing. And really, I think 297 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: the only thing people would care about what I had 298 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: to say was was my experience on that show, um 299 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: or at least be the more you know, worthwhile for them. 300 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's it was. It was mine from the jump. 301 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: And um yeah after you know, we did a little 302 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: reunion with some of the cast Forget Out the Vote 303 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: Back and let's see how that was a couple of 304 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: years ago now, um, and that was you know, we 305 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: had a great experience to everybody, and and you know, 306 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: we we never really got together and spoke about everything, 307 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: and so yeah, we we felt like after that, everyone 308 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: was like, we gotta get together and do that again 309 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: or all be in the same place. And and so 310 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: I felt like, um, you know, this space was was 311 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: a good spot for that. So I know, obviously you 312 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: were in high school when you were doing Laguna Beach 313 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: and when I were talking to Audrina a lot of 314 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: things and she's like, I wish I would have had 315 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: more of a voice, um with how maybe the producers 316 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: would have um asked me to do certain things where 317 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: I felt kind of like not forced in a way 318 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: to like to to to do to do X, and um, 319 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: maybe that she wishes that she could kind of go 320 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: back and have more of a voice is or something 321 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: where I obviously I know you're not a big regret person, 322 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: but is there something where you were like, Okay, I 323 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: wish I could have maybe done this differently. Yeah, I 324 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: mean there's there's there's a lot if you look at 325 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what were you doing in high school, Like, 326 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: do you look back on some of the things that 327 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: you're doing and going like, oh man, I wish I 328 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: handled that differently. You know, there's there's a lot. I 329 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: mean I think that, um, we truly underestimated the power 330 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: of what the editing was going to be with the 331 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: show and how the storylines can really be carved into 332 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: what the editors and producers desired. I think it was 333 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: just so naive back then. Um, and they recorded so 334 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: many hours of us Like I mean, it wasn't an 335 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: everyday deal, but they just had so much footage and 336 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: you really didn't know until the show came out, so 337 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: by that point it was it was too late. But 338 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, I look back at a few times, especially 339 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: watching the show you see times were clearly I've been 340 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: drinking and I'm drunk, and it's like you you like 341 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: that on camera. It's not that's that's not you know, 342 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: um classy in any way, not attractive at all. And 343 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: and it's cringe e to watch, especially when you're an 344 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid and just the things that come 345 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: flying out of your mouth at that age. And and yeah, 346 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, I look back at some 347 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: moments like that when I tell people, you know, if 348 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: they're ever gonna get on the reality show, you know, 349 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: you just just be careful with monitoring the intake there. 350 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: H Do you feel like the producer you guys then 351 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: got like taking advantage of them with that situation. I mean, 352 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: I I look, we were I take responsibility for my actions. Um, 353 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: you know everything I did at that age. Uh yeah, 354 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I I I could only put it there. But look, 355 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's something where you know when um, 356 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: if if you look at a lot of shows in 357 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: reality TV now, I think that those moments where you 358 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: know the producers are hoping it's going to kind of 359 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: go there, they never put us in those positions, those 360 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: positions and tried to encourage it on us. In fact, 361 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: that they did the opposite over there. They you know, 362 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: they told us that that we couldn't drink. Now, um, 363 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, were they gonna enforce it? No what I 364 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: have and if I was in their position, no, trying 365 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: to make a TV show and they know what gets 366 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: good stuff. Um, but yeah, I mean, you know, the 367 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: show that they created in the environment for us to 368 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: kind of live and um, you know, be kids, was 369 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: was always a comfortable one. The one that you know, 370 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: we enjoyed the crew. The crew was amazing, and the 371 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: people we were on the show with we really had 372 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: a great time with. But um, you know, you look 373 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: back hindsight obviously here on on a lot of okay, 374 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: what I could have done differently, and maybe you know, 375 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: they were definitely situations where I'm sure you know, gave 376 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: him the truth. Serum. They were hoping that like on 377 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: these nights, the kids were gonna partake a little bit 378 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: and have a little fun and let loose and that 379 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: will make for some juicy TV. And sure enough it happened. 380 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I signed up 381 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: to be on the show, So I know, I couldn't 382 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: even imagine though looking back on our our real high school, 383 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: high school, real you know, and then to have that 384 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: then to have to go back and watch it. You know. 385 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: The thing that I love about doing it now, for 386 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: so many years that show was in a very weird 387 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: place in my life. Um. It's just again the shock 388 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: of when it came out and what it was and 389 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: what they were highlighting and the pieces that they use, 390 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: especially back then when you know, every the episodes are 391 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: twenty two and it's and they have to jam that 392 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: stuff in. So they're just like, it's just what are like, 393 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: what's the stuff that's gonna you know, it's catched the 394 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: most eyeballs and be the most the shock value of course, um, 395 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: and so all that's that's the stuff that's making it in. UM. 396 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: So you know, for years after that, it was just 397 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, in denial that the thing basically existed, you know, 398 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: a very odd relationship with it all, and thought it 399 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: was silly to get the attention, um for for just 400 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: like being a bunch of knuckleheads at that at that 401 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: time in our life, you know. Um. But the great 402 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: thing about getting older and you know, maturing and reflecting 403 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: on on times in your life. I you know, I 404 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: look back at it now and I'm able to, you know, 405 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: have a laugh and and um be very thankful and 406 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: grateful that we've we've made it this far and we're 407 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: not at that point in our life anymore. And we've 408 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: grown up a lot, so you know, it's it's an 409 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: interesting little reminder of maybe how far we've come and 410 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and um, how much I had to learn at an 411 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: age when you really thought you had you had it 412 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: all kind of figured out, right. I mean I thought 413 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: I had it all figured out at twenty six. You 414 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: know it's like you still every kind of like ten 415 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: years and like definitely didn't have figure out of eighteen, 416 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: not at twenty. It's like we're always growing, We're always learning, 417 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: no matter what age we are, we're still figuring it out. 418 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I was, I think, Um, I don't know, 419 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I felt like I was Uh, I was running around 420 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: like almost with an air of invincibility. You know. It's 421 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: the responsibility at that age is low, right, and um, 422 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: you know it's just I feel like somebody said to 423 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: me at one point when I was younger, you enjoy 424 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: this time of your life because it's when you know 425 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: you're going to have the most fun that your responsibilities 426 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: low take advantage of this time. And I took that 427 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: to heart, and I through caution into the wind quite 428 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: a bit, and and and let loose at that point 429 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: in my life. And um, you know it's I'm I'm 430 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: having much more fun at this point in my life 431 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: here at thirty six, possibly thirty of it depends when 432 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: this episode comes up, being much more mature and and 433 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: thinking more about the decisions I'm making and you know 434 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: how they're going to um reflect on me maybe down 435 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: the road a little bit. So yeah, I mean an 436 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: interesting time and quite an interesting experience to have that 437 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: that documented and for people to still watch it to 438 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: this day. Yeah. So I like in our day and 439 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: age now. So back when you guys were doing Laguna 440 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: Beach in the Hills and I was an avid watcher, 441 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Um, she was, are you I'm glad 442 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: you did? That? Makes like four of us so that 443 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: I'm done road rules. That was cool, my brother and 444 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: I said. When my brother sent in a video and 445 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: we did the whole things. You guys speaking of editing, um, 446 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: yeah you know about it. No one needs to go 447 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: google that. But in our day and age now, I 448 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: feel like we have kids that are eighteen, nineteen seventeen, 449 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: even documenting their lives on their own. So is there 450 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: any piece of the Ghost of Stephen Future would give them, 451 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: any piece of advice for Like, I can't imagine having 452 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: cameras on me at eighteen. I mean even when I 453 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: did road Rules, it was like I was twenty four, 454 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: twenty five, and even that was a complete So is 455 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: there anything you would say to them? Like, you know, 456 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: I think that sometimes people missed the piece of post 457 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: reality TV show. You want to go get a real job, 458 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: or you want to get like a not a real job. 459 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, Like you go try 460 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: to apply for something that has like a four one 461 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: pay and you're like, uh, you know, there's You're there's 462 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: some based on your character that's already been documented in 463 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: people have seen. So is there anything you would tell 464 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: people now to caution them are sweet younger generation? Yeah? 465 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean I truly didn't understand, um, you know how 466 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: long lasting some of my actions would be at that 467 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: point one in my life going on the show. So 468 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to know and think that, look, 469 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: whatever is happening on camera during this time is going 470 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: to follow you for the rest of your life. And 471 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: you need to sit in thought with that for a 472 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: while and understand how kind of profound that is. And 473 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: with the actions that you're going to take going forward 474 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: on screen or on camera. Um and with that, you know, 475 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: as I kind of mentioned earlier, I think one thing 476 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: for me was letting my judgment fall by the wayside, 477 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: which is of course drinking a lot on camera and 478 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: those I mean, yeah, that that's just not a great look. 479 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: I think that was a big one for me looking back. Um, 480 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: So I would just stress I would stress that point 481 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: and and and to even get involved, you know, I 482 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: think you would have to really have a plan of something, 483 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: of of what you want to do. If if you've 484 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: got something that a brand that you eventually want to 485 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: go down and sell, I think going down that road 486 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: there needs to be a strategy of of why you're 487 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: doing it. Um I do think you should still be 488 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: yourself and if you're comfortable with yourself and who you are, 489 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: then that's good. But don't try to be somebody you're not. 490 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: But I would go I would take it as as 491 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: a business decision, you know, not necessarily as a a 492 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: life experience. I'm going to go do road Rules or 493 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: some sort of a show just to like get some 494 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: life experience and the move on with my life because 495 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: it's just not worth it. It's not worth the you know, 496 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I think the risk of what you're putting yourself in, 497 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: the situation you're putting yourself in and when you know 498 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: those laps of jud judgment that occur. Um, you know, 499 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: there's a camera rolling and now it's there for the 500 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: rest of your life. So is so is also Instagram 501 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: and Twitter. It's like every anything you say, and that's 502 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: like because like now our reality world is our Instagram, 503 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: our stories and everything else we put out there. So 504 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: it's you say one bad, wrong thing when you're eighteen twenties, 505 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna come back and haunt you. It's gonna you're 506 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: gonna it's like you do a story and you're singing 507 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: a song and you say the wrong world. It's like 508 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: it's those things like it's it's you're living your own 509 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: reality show in your hands. Ess. I was just gonna say, 510 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting how everyone's got their own little version 511 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: of their personal reality show. Who have any sort of 512 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: a public profile um or also even a lot of 513 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, private profiles that have you know, people that 514 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: are broadcasting things to their friends. It's it's, you know, 515 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to see that. Um. And yeah, I 516 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: think that you know, you're seeing the um consequences for 517 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: those actions when when those laps of judgment judgment happened 518 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: across all sorts of of you know, um a fields. 519 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I you see it with you know, performers 520 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: and with with with athletes, people and politics. You know, 521 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: they they go on Twitter and they pop something off 522 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: or they think they're being funny and and again who knows, 523 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: who knows if they've had drinks or something in there 524 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: and they're they're just jumping on Twitter, which I definitely 525 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: do not alright, do not recommend stuff stuff like that 526 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: where you know it's again it's out there and then 527 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: you could try to delete it, but it's somebody's already 528 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: got it. Um. And you're seeing people, you know having 529 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: to pay the price for that, you know, all the time. 530 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: It's very interesting. All right. I want to talk about 531 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: the dynamic between you and Kristen because obviously people that 532 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: watch the show, that have followed y'all, there's always been 533 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: that little thread of connection, right, so it's my high 534 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: school sweetheart. There will always be something there from my 535 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: high school sweetheart. Just always there's that love, that eighteen 536 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: year old first love, UM thing. And I'm just curious, 537 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: like how cool it is to do this show with her, 538 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: and because there's so much respect, so much love that's 539 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: there to kind of go all right, look at what 540 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: we lived through and everything we went through because those 541 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: were still real emotions, and then how you guys are 542 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: today to be able to kind of like come together 543 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: full circle, but also knowing that like there will always 544 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: be that like deep love there. Well, I think it's 545 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, we would through so much. Everyone who was 546 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: on the show together, we went through a lot, and um, 547 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: you know we never spoke about it. You know, UM 548 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: kind of alluded to this earlier, but it's just, you know, 549 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: I think we were all kind of grasping with what 550 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: the show was at different times and in different ways. Definitely, 551 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 1: And you know, you're still so young and and you 552 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: really don't know how to process those emotions, and UM, 553 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: it's taken years and and as us have gone on, 554 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: little moments have popped up for us to have a 555 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: chat about it. And when we did this, um, you 556 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: know they will get out the vote deal. Um all 557 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: came together for that. It was a positive experience. We 558 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: all went into it very nervous and you know, and 559 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: even talking with Kristen about, you know, doing the podcast, 560 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, what is this going to 561 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: look like? And and and we want to do this. Um, 562 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's opening up a whole can of worms 563 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: of emotions of what we went with, what we went 564 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: through and doing the show. So you guys talked about 565 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: the cheating incident, which you know, I would love to 566 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: talk to me about my high school sweetar about fact 567 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: that he cheated on me and say highands like I 568 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: kind of want to talk about it, you know, because 569 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: there's still feelings that you had, you know what I mean, 570 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Like there's still like the great thing about yeah, you know, 571 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: being twenty years later here is is it's you know, 572 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: we're just we're all so far removed from those moments 573 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: in our life and we've all gone on, you know, 574 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: do different things, and and I have matured quite a bit, 575 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: and so you know, you look back at it as 576 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, Um, it's kind of like I almost I 577 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: look back at as like a character I played at 578 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: some point, you know. Um, it's it's just such a 579 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: different time. Um. And so we were all cast members 580 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: and working on this show and and uh, here we are. Here, 581 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: we are, all these years later able to come back 582 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: and and discuss it. Um. And it's cool to do that. 583 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: And yes that ultimately, the fact that it was real 584 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: life at that point, um, you know it it makes 585 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: it I think unique in its way. But again it's 586 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: still you know, we're so far removed from it. Everyone's 587 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: kind of moved on with their lives. That's nice. So 588 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: to be able to go back and like kind of 589 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: repair that I would think, you know, I mean, how 590 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: many people really get to go down twenty years later 591 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: and go to their X and like repair that relationship. 592 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: That's got to be kind of nice and a relief 593 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, And I just want yeah, I 594 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: mean yeah, it's I don't think it's it's it's really 595 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: anything that we were. Anyone's like holding onto anything. You know. Again, 596 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: you look back at that point in your life and 597 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's another lifetime ago. And yeah, I just um, 598 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: it's more it's it's fun being able to go through 599 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: those moments and things that happened on the show and 600 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: and just take the piss out of it, you know, 601 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: and and just you know, give each other and and um, 602 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, laugh about it now. It makes it fun 603 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: and it makes again the whole experience much more of 604 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: an easier pilla. Is there one episode that's coming up 605 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: that you're like, I just do not want to discuss. No, 606 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: we nothing, nothing is is. I haven't been afraid of 607 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: anything with this, you know, it was the one thing 608 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: was probably the combo episode in the first season, but um, 609 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: I was. I was looking forward to talking about it 610 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: because again it's one of those things where I, of 611 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: course I don't even remember what happened that day. I 612 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: didn't even know what was going to be in the episode. 613 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: I got a little bit of like, uh oh, yeah, 614 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're pretty drunk that night down to Cabo, 615 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: and I kind of knew because some friends said, you know, 616 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: we had to take you home, that kind of a deal. 617 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: But like, as far as what ultimately was on the 618 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: show was I was seeing for the first time when 619 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: it basically came out, and um, that was very shocking, 620 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: and you know, it's barrassed for my family and for myself, 621 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I was looking forward to just 622 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: kind of making peace with that, I guess, and and saying, 623 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, um, having a proper chat about it, because 624 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: people have brought it up with me over over the years, 625 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: and it's come up here and there, and I realized 626 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: that it was you know, a moment that was the 627 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: people remembered a lot from the show, and so um, 628 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, I just, yeah, I needed to to have 629 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, um a little debrief about it, and and 630 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: of course being able to talk to Christen about it. Um, yeah, 631 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I was happy to do so 632 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: instead of these little remarks in an interview cover you know, 633 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: wherever down down the road here, Um, it was better 634 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: to kind of sit down, watch it and um and 635 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: and have a little discussion about it. So we're glad 636 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: that was in the past. Yeah, and we're in the 637 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: second season of the show. The second season, I was 638 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: was barely in the show. I was trying not to 639 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: be on the show, and uh, for that, I just 640 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: get to kind of just sit back and you know, 641 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: watch what's happening and watch a play out and a 642 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: lot of these episodes I'm seen for the first time. 643 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: I didn't the second season I barely watched when it 644 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: came out, and so I'm learning all sorts of new things. 645 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: And these are familiar faces to me, of course, because 646 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: I went to high school all these kids. So I'm 647 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: learning about all the juicy gossip from two thousand five. Yeah, 648 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: you're like, wait, what did that happened? Jason said, what. 649 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: I love his transformation too. He has become a good 650 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: friend of mine in the mental health world. And so 651 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: that's been because watching him back on the hills too. 652 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was like that Jason like crazy, 653 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, so I know a very different version. Didn't 654 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: he wear combat boots to the beach? Did he? I 655 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: don't know. Yah, I got a lot of rewatching today. 656 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: If there was to be a One Tree Hill reboot, 657 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: would you would you give Alas the second chance? No? 658 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: He hated Alex. You know, if that gets us, if 659 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: that gets it's on the show, right. We got to 660 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: get a storyline on there. I mean, there's so many 661 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: characters that have been on One Tree Hill over the 662 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: years d eight seven episodes they're going to do do 663 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: a reboot? I mean, do we make the cut? I 664 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: mean we're like, here's our storyline. Yeah, we like, this 665 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: is what's going to happen Chase and alexis I know, 666 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: I know you're so Mia, like you always chose me 667 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: because she was like the more, but I think you 668 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: would have been bored of her. So I just like, 669 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: I have definitely come around. I'm now a lovely housewife, 670 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: but I still have my fund things you need more 671 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: rolling around naked into bed, it's all I remember. Oh 672 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: my gosh, how many scenes do we have where we 673 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: had to just we was just that's my memory of you. Yeah. 674 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: I literally wasponset for the first time ever before we 675 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: started working together, and I like walk on set and 676 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: Danna was like, hey, just step y and she like 677 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: goes and you're in your tidy way. I was like, okay, 678 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: let's go. What they don't know? A picture from the 679 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: there's a picture from the show that that circles from 680 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: time to time where I'm literally in whitey tidies sitting 681 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: at the edge of the bed that my I'm in 682 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: my pink little remember that is like the segue into 683 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Alex because that sweet girl must really have some thick skin. 684 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: She's stunning. How's that going. I just really want I 685 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: really want to get us I was like, which, Alex, 686 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: imagine dating like it. I can't imagine dating someone because 687 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: I'm actually married to a country artist and he was 688 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: a forty year old bachelor when we met, and that 689 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: has come with its own slew of scrap book memories 690 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: to just keep, and so I can't imagine someone being 691 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: in such a spotlight and having all these like things 692 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: like how does that affect a relationship? I mean, obviously, 693 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: you guys are growing mature, wonderful people. I don't know 694 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: her personally, she's beautiful, I matter, she's awesome. Name like, 695 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: she's just gunning anyone that looks like her really has 696 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: much insecurity. But when these things come up, I mean, 697 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: is that ever just tricky for you? Guys are just 698 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: like it is what I mean, you and Whitey Tidys 699 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: is something that can circle around, and that's not something 700 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: I have to deal with her. Yeah, no, No, she understands, 701 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: she's she's always been supportive and yeah, I mean, um, 702 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: we've been Yeah, we've been in a great relationship here 703 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: and she's known from you know, very early on. You know, 704 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I was signed up to do the podcast before you know, 705 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: getting into this relationship, and so um, yeah, I'd let 706 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: her know and she you know, she understands, you know, 707 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: of course, UM, just my history and the experience that 708 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: we had with that show, and UM, she's been very 709 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: supportive and I can't ask much from her. She's she's 710 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: been amazing with it. And she's a wonderful person who 711 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, she supports 712 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: me and what I'm doing in my career and and um, 713 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: you know what I want to do, and UM, you 714 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: know she's on board. We're a team together. So are 715 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: you a fan? You know, I was growing up, I 716 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of NASCAR, and I had I 717 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: was a fan of a specific driver and I would 718 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: follow it, um for for years. And then it kind 719 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: of as a driver that I was a fan of retired, 720 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: I kind of lost a little bit of interest. And 721 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: then now, of course getting together with Alex it's you know, 722 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: I've been re energizing the NASCAR world. I've been going 723 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: to a few races. I've been going to a few 724 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: more this year. I'm excited about. She's in l A 725 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: right now. There's the a clash at the Colosseum that's 726 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: happening this weekend that that we're going to and I'm 727 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: and I'm really looking forward to that. But I always 728 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: joke with her and say that I was a NASCAR 729 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: driver in my first life, So, um, this is this 730 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: is kind of kismet in a way and not surprising, 731 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: but yeah's amazing. She works really hard for them. I 732 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: mean she she travels. This year, she's going to be 733 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: at most of the races and for the next correspondent, 734 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: right for NASCAR. Yeah, she's a reporter. Yep. She's worked 735 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: within NASCAR for six years now, and um, yeah, I's 736 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: done all sorts of different shows for them, works in studio, 737 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: works on track. She's a girl's girlfriend short because I 738 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 1: told her, I said, hey, there's this one NASCAR guy 739 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: that reached out and shows oh no, no, no, no, 740 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: do not respond, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Okay, thank you. 741 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: She's on the inside of all of it. She knows 742 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: what's up. So but yeah, and she's I mean, she's working. 743 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: She's going every race for the next few months, has 744 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: to be on the road, so which, Yeah, she works 745 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: really hard in that space and it's really cool to 746 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: see her do her thing. A closet NASCAR fan and 747 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Newman has always been my guy. Oh there you go, 748 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: nothing about neither. Literally that's I was like, yeah, he 749 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: had that big crash and I was very serious. Yeah yeah, 750 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: And then I'll bring it back to things people want 751 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: to probably know about, but I need to know who 752 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: your driver was, because in NASCAR world, who's your driver matters. Yeah. 753 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: So I had a Earnhardt car, Dale Sr. When my 754 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: dad gave me a car when I was a kid. 755 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: And then again, I think there was that need for speed, uh, 756 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: that was there early on, and so I thought NASCAR 757 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: was really cool. Anytime that we went to the go 758 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: kart place, I would always kick ass there. I'm not 759 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: afraid about it right now. I never got less than 760 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: first place, so um, I appreciate so that once after 761 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: of course, for those who don't know Dale, this this 762 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: driver we're talking about, he did pass away on track 763 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: and and he had a son um that that excelled 764 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: in the sport, Dale Earnhardt Jr. And so I became 765 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: a fan of his and followed him up until he retired. 766 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: So but now, yeah, I'm learning about all the new 767 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: drivers and I am I'm a free agent right now 768 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: as far as my fandom. But we're we're we're honing 769 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: in on a couple of guys, so I love it. Offline, 770 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: we have a few suggestions of who not to root for. Okay, 771 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: I think I think I might know probably on the 772 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: same All right, Stephen, we'll wrap this up. What what's 773 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: going on? What's next? Um? And yeah, tell us everything 774 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: so that we can be rooting for our beloved Chase. 775 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: Stephen so well, I, um, you know, we've got some 776 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: very exciting things going on with everyone is doing great 777 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: in season two. Um. So yeah, look forward to sharing 778 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: more about that with people very soon. Awesome. Well, thank 779 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: you Stephen so much for coming on the show. Always 780 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: amazing seeing you and saying, hey, so I'm rooting for 781 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: a reboot. Yeah, there you go. We gotta find our 782 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: way on there. Jam we gotta figure out our storyline 783 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: and pitch it an X, write your story. Let's go 784 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: to be an extra all right, Stephen, You're the best 785 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: season by Stephen, are you? Guys? Oh? He's the sweetest. 786 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: I just love Stephen always, always like I love that 787 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: he was my scene partner in Onetree Home. He's just 788 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: even though Alex wanted Austin or Julian, but I just 789 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: Stephen was the best. He was so fun and like 790 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: I watched Laguna Beach, so I was excited to meet 791 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: him and I thought I didn't know how he would be, 792 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: but he was so cool, like just a normal dude. Yeah, 793 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: I say something that is going to get me kicked 794 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: off the show? Does anything mean about One Tree Hill? 795 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: You're never a lot, you know, Yeah, that's not gonna 796 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: not mean. You know, I never watched One Tree Hill 797 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: because I think it was the generation just after me. 798 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: Like I think, I like, I know people in early thirty. Well, 799 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: Captaine's gonna take offense. I watched it, but she watched 800 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: every episode did but it was like our young twenties 801 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: for me, I think like early early twenties. But now 802 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: it's a whole resurgence of it, so like you can 803 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: hop more with all the teenagers now. Well, now I 804 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: have to watch because I really am like I've never 805 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 1: watched I've never watched there's men in their long Yeah, 806 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: it's hard now the way that we're like used to 807 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: how TV is now. But I love TV, So I 808 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: should just start over and watch it again. You should, 809 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. The problem is is there's so 810 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: many and I don't even know how we would get 811 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: together that often to watch them. You got to finished. 812 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: We could watch like every like other or we finally 813 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: got to jam I seen I watch it with you. 814 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: It would be kind of fun. That would be kind 815 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: of fun. I mean, I guess I've never watched it. 816 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: So when minus a few episodes, but are really loyal, 817 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: like I mean you're yeah, there's there's good there's good lessons, 818 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: there's yeah, absolutely free lines for sure. So I haven't 819 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: seen Steven since Steven was wasted in combo basically, yeah, 820 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: so that's crazy because he's like when he said he's thirty, 821 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: it's Steven Eves, So when he's dizzy's thirty six almost 822 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: thirty seven, and like he lives in my brain also 823 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: like he's twenty three or twenty four. Like that's the 824 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: last time I saw him was like a reunion show, 825 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: I think. But like we were that age. I know, 826 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: it's well, I wasn't there a few basically we were 827 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: the we we're growing up with them, Like I have 828 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: a question. Hold on one second, I'm so curious where 829 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: this is going. I know, curious, I get scared, you 830 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: get curious. Oh no, we can't. Um, we've got news 831 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: coming in a few weeks. M h, don't worry, stay tuned, don't. 832 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: We're not trying to tease you, guys. It'll come soon, 833 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: it will yes. Uh, well, guys, good episode. I love 834 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: you guys very much. I love you, I love you. 835 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: I actually really needed a little line down today for 836 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: my soul. You got you got the house, Quiet, tell 837 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: your family well done, and maybe go out there and 838 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: go sorry. I just really you have to tell you 839 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: don't have to apologize. We're still actually you don't have 840 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: to apologize for wanting and meeting quiet and time sixty. 841 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: You've got ten more minutes, So what are you gonna do? 842 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with the ten minutes? The 843 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: question hand and ball into the pool alone? When are 844 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: we back to a room together? I want to get 845 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: back from England end of next week and next week 846 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: hug Alan for I will you know, I will thank you, Republics. 847 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: Bye