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Speaker 1: He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive, Happy Friday. I am Dale

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Speaker 2: LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: visiting the Steelers today, and I know we talked about

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Speaker 2: this earlier in the week a lot, but this tells

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Speaker 2: me that Aaron Rodgers has come to the conclusion that

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Speaker 2: he's not going to retire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would assume, so, I think that's safe to say.

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Speaker 3: You don't bother doing this, and maybe he takes another trip,

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Speaker 3: who knows what happens, But I would think he's dialed

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Speaker 3: into play football and made that decision, which, again, he

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Speaker 3: has the right to take his time. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: earned that, he's good enough. The teams will wait. We'll see.

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of exciting though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see how where this goes from here. But

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Speaker 2: Aaron in town today, visiting with Mike Tomlin, talking about

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Speaker 2: maybe the direction of things, and that's the problem. It's

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons why the Steelers have put forth

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Speaker 2: the rule or change proposal regarding.

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Speaker 3: Free agency yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That Their proposal is that the teams can have a

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Speaker 2: have contact at least one phone call or a video

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Speaker 2: call with a player in the legal tampering period, because

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Speaker 2: right now you're not allowed to talk to the player.

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Speaker 2: You're only allowed to talk to the agent, and the

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Speaker 2: agent talks to the player. But it's kind of like

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Speaker 2: a buffer, a little phone call game that you do

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Speaker 2: in grade school. Tell this guy and then it goes

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Speaker 2: down the line.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure not only do do the Steelers have

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Speaker 3: questions for Rogers and personality fits and want to hang

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Speaker 3: out with them like they would a draft prospect, but

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Speaker 3: he probably does for them too. Yeah, what's just going

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Speaker 3: to look like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, what's what are your plans with

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Speaker 3: You know, right?

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Speaker 2: How does this work? And so? And then there's just

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Speaker 2: the whole personality thing. You can you know, Mike, Mike

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Speaker 2: Toma loves Aaron Rodgers looked. They winked at each other

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Speaker 2: in a field. I don't know if they've ever had

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they broke bread together or had

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Speaker 2: You know, I saw him at the Pro Bowl right

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Speaker 3: Or some banquet or event or whatever. But that doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that they're close or you know, have a working

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Speaker 2: In the same way that I mean they brought in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, once he became a free agent and and you know,

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Speaker 2: you talk to him and it wasn't a way to

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Speaker 2: other offers and then he.

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Speaker 3: I was kicking that around in my cranium too, like

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Speaker 3: did he come in and sign that day or was

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Speaker 2: There were That's when the phone calls went out to

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Speaker 2: When and he talked to those guys about it. Maybe

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Speaker 2: the same thing happens this weekend, Yeah, yeah, and we

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Speaker 3: Would it shock you if Rogers went to New York

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Speaker 2: Although you know, he maybe knows a little bit more

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Speaker 3: I assume he has a house resident. It's the same stadium, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that's an easier visit. Yeah, and could go under

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Speaker 3: the radar without people noticing too. He's not walking through

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's where we're at with that. You know,

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Speaker 2: the offer remains on the table. He'll decide what works

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Speaker 2: if he just said, well, I'm thinking about the Giants offer,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's clear is there's obviously mutual interest, you know,

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Speaker 2: I could see him taking another couple of days and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and what he was looking for.

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Speaker 2: For Rogers, who you know, quite frankly had a losing

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Speaker 3: Right, chances of playoffs.

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Speaker 2: This is not a guy who's lost a lot during

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Speaker 2: his career.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm much like the Packers. I mean over the

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Speaker 3: his lifespan as an NFL player. The Giant success versus

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Speaker 2: I want to I want to dig into this a

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about this art selves and Lawrence Taylor

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Speaker 2: When people talk about, well, the Steelers, they've been in

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Speaker 2: no man's land since Ben Roethlisberger retired, and you hear

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Speaker 2: nausee hear has come out and say, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: we didn't really have a there were no leaders on

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Speaker 2: Ben was there. Ben was the leader of the offense.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons they drafted Nauji Harris is because

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Speaker 3: At the mirror.

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Speaker 2: You were supposed to be that guy. You were supposed

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Speaker 2: to be what the offense was built around. You were

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be the identity of the team.

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Speaker 3: You know, they were going to be young.

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Speaker 2: If the team didn't have an identity that kind of

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Speaker 2: ball three hundred times every year, you know, a third

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Speaker 2: of their offensive touches basically went to Nagy Harris, you

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Speaker 2: were the identity and you you didn't create enough there

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Speaker 3: And that was one of the allures of him coming

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Speaker 3: out was considered a leader in a very say it's a.

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Speaker 2: Bad guy, the team captain heading into a second year. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that wasn't after that.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking now because I retweeted it and you mentioned

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Speaker 3: the touches and he's he accounted for two hundred ninety

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Speaker 2: Especially at the third of your offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you if you run just over one

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Speaker 3: Right, that are going to go elsewhere elsewhere, And you

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Speaker 3: hope you even run more plays this year. So maybe

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Speaker 3: that's eighteen nineteen plays a game that aren't going in

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Speaker 2: Anyways, where I was going with this, you mentioned the giants,

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Speaker 2: who's there, who's been there quarterback since and Eli Manning's

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Speaker 3: Oh no, Ben was around later than Eli.

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Speaker 2: Right, But what I'm saying is Eli Manning was their

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Speaker 2: quote unquote franchise quarterback. What has their plan been since

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Speaker 2: since Daniel Jones? Was they took a swing at Daniel Jones? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: They extended him when they shouldn't have his way.

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Speaker 2: But well that's where they stay there, right, you know

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Speaker 2: the Colts. After Luck retired, you take a bunch of

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Speaker 2: different swings. You take a you know, you reach it

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Speaker 2: let's say Denver and Manning was only there a few years,

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Speaker 2: but he was there quote unquote franchise guy.

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Speaker 3: He was like grabbing Rogers now, right, But.

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Speaker 2: After he retired, they went nine seasons without making the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Was not winning a playoff game without making the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of packs and Lynch and a

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Speaker 3: lot of search in there too for a franchise that

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Speaker 3: in our lifetime won a lot of games, like the Giants,

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Speaker 3: but I mean the Giants.

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Speaker 2: But he wants to bring up the Packers model. Well,

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Speaker 2: they had they had Brett farre and then they drafted

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Speaker 3: I don't think they planned on it, but sit in

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Speaker 2: This guy's too good for us to pass.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean we're gonna grab him.

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Speaker 2: And quite frankly, I don't know if we know yet

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Speaker 2: about Jordan Love. No, they're happy with I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's not far of a Rogers at this point, clearly,

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Speaker 2: He's closer to being Derek Carr than he is those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they're happy with him, and

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Speaker 3: he's encouraging, but that doesn't mean that they've hit three

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Speaker 2: Look at what's happened to the Patriots since since Brady

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Speaker 2: left them. Oh yeah, they've been in a bad football team.

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Speaker 3: No question, like the worst in the league.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is what this is. You know, when I've

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Speaker 2: Browns brown pretty sick. And the second the draft, they yeah,

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Speaker 2: they've drafted quarterback after quarterback and failed on it. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then when they had one in Baker Mayfield, who

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Speaker 2: go in a different direction and go for watching. Right,

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Speaker 2: that's not where the Steelers are at right now. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers are in that area where post franchise quarterback having

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Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback. And it's again, I just went through

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Speaker 3: What would be interesting and could be one of your

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Speaker 3: like five for Fridays And it's definitely a better project

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Speaker 3: for you to do than me. But pull up. All

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame quarterbacks are soon to be Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame quarterbacks. What's the winning percentage of the five

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Speaker 3: be bad there last year Eli is a great example

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Speaker 3: or whatever. But I bet it's pretty poor. It's post

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Speaker 3: always bad post Manning's bad with Denver, you know, I

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Speaker 3: mean a lot of these dudes. You're too good to

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Speaker 3: so you weren't gonna, as we went through earlier in

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Speaker 3: the week, even your second round pick on a quarterback

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Speaker 3: that's going to sit there and you live for today.

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Speaker 2: And somebody can say, well, what about the Ravens did

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Speaker 2: it with Flacco? They drafted you know, they.

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Speaker 3: Drafted Laos on the same level.

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Speaker 2: Is not that guy, right? You know that was always

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Speaker 2: the joke in pitback. Well, Joe Flacco is a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's elite. Blah blah blah blah blah, elite. Oh he wasn't. No,

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Speaker 3: he's a good player. He's a borderline pro bowler in

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean he's below

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Speaker 3: No, No, that's a different world.

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Speaker 2: The Browns have never had that guy.

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Speaker 3: They tried with Rogers and injury and age and other

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Speaker 2: Until it wasn't. We're gonna try something different again this year.

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Speaker 3: And I still believe Rodgers is a better football player

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Speaker 2: My only question with Aaron Rodgers, and I've said this before,

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Speaker 2: That doesn't affect me one way or the other. He's nuts.

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Speaker 2: You don't know him. There's a lot of nuts, trust me.

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Speaker 3: And if things go bad too, I don't need to

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Speaker 2: Well even like he had his Tuesday radio show. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's just all about priorities. To me, being the best

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Speaker 3: his family, religion, and you know that whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: And that's likely the conversation that went that took place

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Speaker 3: Very lenient organization that doesn't have Frankly the backbone to

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Speaker 2: Robert Saler was not going to put his foot down.

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Speaker 3: It comes back to ownership.

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Speaker 2: He went out, he was he was enabled in New York.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you want Randall Cobbyers around.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, you want the Fante Adams. We're gonna We're

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Speaker 2: gonna go get DeVonta Adams. Sure, Like, you need to

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Speaker 2: know you're not the GM area. You're not the GM here.

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Speaker 2: We're not bringing in your your hand picked offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: And if by chance you're two and six eight games in,

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Speaker 3: You know, that's the kind of stuff you need to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we're at with the Aaron Rodgers situation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's certainly encouraging news for those that want

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Speaker 2: We're just some resolution to this whole thing. Right Anyways,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt turning the page here from the previous segment.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's talk a little bit about Shadoor Sanders. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders, the big twelve Pro day was yesterday. He

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Speaker 3: Does he think? It? Sure? Seems like his camp and

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Speaker 2: Is so okay. If it's not the Royal Wi where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so some of his earlier quotes from a month

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Speaker 2: And also Travis Hunter was the number one freaking recruit

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Speaker 3: And he went to Jackson State. I'm like, you guys

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Speaker 2: You should win some games.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Now Colorado is a different story. They were

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Speaker 3: like or all of a sudden in the top ten program.

440
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 2: Didn't transform them as much as his dad transformed him.

441
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: Brought in a whole bunch of recruits, brought in a

442
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 2: whole bunch of transfers.

443
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

444
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, First that went on TV a lot. They were

445
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: on TV a lot. And before that you saw some

446
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: of the team meetings and you heard some of the

447
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 2: stuff like He's just like, none of you guys going

448
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: to be here because I'm bringing a whole new group

449
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: of guys.

450
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and didn't bring me enough time in, but yeah.

451
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: Bring him enough. But he brought him in enough to

452
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: be competitive.

453
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Sanders is a good quarterback prospect,

454
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 3: a good quarterback prospect. I mean he's going to be

455
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: a first round pick. He's going to be a starter

456
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 3: at some point, whether succeeds or not. Hunter is the

457
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 3: special one.

458
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 2: Hunter was the special player.

459
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 3: That was the special one that never leaves feat.

460
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: He was the unicorn.

461
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, went in doubt. Let's throw it to him, you

462
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

463
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: Like, you got twenty two starters on a team and

464
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 2: he was two of them.

465
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and the best two yeah, and Sanders was

466
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: number three.

467
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

468
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's Manzel to Mike Evans,

469
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, but someone made the other.

470
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: Watch some of the throws that he made. He was

471
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 2: just throwing the ball up and letting Travis Hunter go

472
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: get it.

473
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think that's a spectacular superstar player

474
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 3: that if one of the two ends up in the

475
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, I'm betting on Hunter. That would be

476
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: my guest too, you know what I'm saying.

477
00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: And so I here's the problem. Dion the Dad is

478
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 2: long known to be a guy who doesn't handle criticism.

479
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: Well oh yeah yeah when he's in the Atlanta Braves

480
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: locker rooms.

481
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: I didn't say he's a draft cross, but he was

482
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: the same age he went he was playing for the Braves.

483
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 3: I know you're talking about they win.

484
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 2: That they beat the Pirates to go to the World Series.

485
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: He wasn't a great baseball he was not. He was

486
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: an average baseball player.

487
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 3: Gets forgotten, right.

488
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: He went out of his way to dump multiple buckets

489
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: of water on Tim McCarver because Tim mccar who broadcasted

490
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: the game, because Tim McCarver said was critical.

491
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: Of him as a baseball player, which was sound like

492
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: it was pretty damn petty.

493
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: This is who this guy is. This is the guy

494
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: who when he didn't like one.

495
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: To those highlights. It's not a good look for no,

496
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: not at all. Mccarver's a legend at this point. You know, he.

497
00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: Banned reporters from the Colorado from Colorado press conferences and

498
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: games because they were critical of the program. This is

499
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 2: not a guy. This is a guy who has very

500
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: very thin skin.

501
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he's been the best at what he's

502
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: done for a long time. But I mean, he's the

503
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: one the best football players ever seen.

504
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: But he wants no criticism whatsoever. You're a quarterback in

505
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, yeah there's going to be criticized.

506
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: To play for the New York Giants.

507
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: They're going to be criticism. Ye people were people are

508
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: going to pick your game apart in the pre draft process.

509
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: Mahomes is getting it now right because he lost the

510
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, Right, the guy's overrated. I don't know it. Man.

511
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: We may have a plan, we may know how to

512
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: handle it in every.

513
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: Way, but Josh Allen m he might not do it.

514
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: We might not do it real well. Yeah, because if

515
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: if I'm judging from the way his father has handled criticism,

516
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: Dion doesn't handle criticism.

517
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: Well right right right, And they're all involved, they're intermingled.

518
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not just my dad's like this. So

519
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: I'm like this. I mean, obviously they're a team team

520
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: saying right now, yeah, which I get. I mean the

521
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: Mannings did this. I mean I get it. This is

522
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: the first time the always did that. Yeah, I get itspects,

523
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 3: but it does.

524
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: Raise some concerns about if I'm the team drafting him,

525
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: I better have a pretty damn solid backbone as a headcat.

526
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: It's almost like the Aaron Rodgers thing. You're gonna have

527
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: to put your foot down with him stulf.

528
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he has many pelts on the wall.

529
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have the He's not a Hall of

530
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: Fame player like Aaron.

531
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: With millions in the bank. And Rogers could say I'm

532
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: done and walk away, and you know, fine, but Sanders

533
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: is still trying to write the book.

534
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're not coming in here. And and Dad,

535
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: he's not calling the head coach on Monday and saying, hey,

536
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: why did we why did we throw that on third

537
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: and four and we could have run it?

538
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this this is in eighth grade where my

539
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: kid needs to play, and blah blah blah. I mean,

540
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: all that stuff's out the door. And you wonder his

541
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: shador ever been coached by other one, anyone other than Dad.

542
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think he's ever had

543
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: a head coach.

544
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: You think his high school coach wasn't the one that

545
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know it was. And Dion, I don't believe.

546
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 3: I'm sure his high school coach was very happy to

547
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: have him.

548
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: He was very happy to have him. But when Dion called,

549
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: he picked up the phone.

550
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. I mean Dion might

551
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: be given back to the high school or whatever as

552
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: he should. I again, there's something wrong. This is different.

553
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: This you're pro now, but this is the first time

554
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: that he's going to have a different head coach. It's

555
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: not related to him. Yeah, you know that's going to

556
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: be difficult. Dice question. It's dicey. So what from what

557
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 3: I understand and I wasn't in the meetings, but several

558
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: people have reported this or insinuated that Sanders meetings at

559
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: the combine, Let's say he had ten of them. I

560
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: have no idea he had. I don't think he probably

561
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: had more than that, probably had more than that. I mean,

562
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 3: I'm sure he chose to show up to them. Yes,

563
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 3: apparently most of them. He came across very disinterested. And

564
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: the way that it was phrased was we didn't get

565
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: the impression that he cared if we liked him or not.

566
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: You know, like you sit down an interview like this,

567
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: don't really carefult want this job.

568
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: Raph This is a job interview, right, But there was

569
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: a couple that he did and because they were the

570
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: higher picks, it's the.

571
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: Giants in the Browns. Supposedly or two of them where

572
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: no bad reports out of that conversation, you know, So

573
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're hand picking where they're wanting

574
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 3: to get there trying is they're trying to persuade teams

575
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: that might take them not to Does he just want

576
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: to be the highest pick he possibly can for prosterity

577
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: money wherever? I mean, I wouldn't think the Giants and

578
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 3: Browns are your desired landing spots of quarterback needy teams.

579
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: But if you just want to be the highest pick

580
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 3: you possibly can be, well, those are your best options.

581
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: And I think he's gona end up at one of

582
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: those places.

583
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: I think so as well, and I just don't know

584
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: how well it's going to work out.

585
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't buy that stock. I always look at quarterbacks

586
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: like stocks, you know, Like I mean like, if he

587
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: lands in one of those two spots, I don't think

588
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: I'm investing in that stock at the current cost, you

589
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Yeah, it's like chances of that

590
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: working out are less than ideal for the second or

591
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: third overall pick.

592
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: In the draft to me, now we have heard some

593
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: stuff that you know, his floor would be the Steelers

594
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: at twenty one. I do think that Mike Tomlin has

595
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: again the pelts on the wall, right right right, tell

596
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: Dehon to go sure jumping them on.

597
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: And I think you might tell Rogers to go jump

598
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: in the man, right, I mean right. I mean that's

599
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 3: this organization is going to be different that way, you know,

600
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: and I think that's a good thing. So we open

601
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 3: the show with the Rogers talk. If Rogers decides in

602
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: five minutes or over the weekend, I'm going to be

603
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: a Steeler signs a two year deal. Are you out

604
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: of round one completely on quarterbacks?

605
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not using it.

606
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 3: I think I am too.

607
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: Even with Sanders, I just don't love I don't I

608
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: don't like any of these guys at twenty one, right right.

609
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: I just tell him We've had lots of dark conversations

610
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: this week, and I don't think either one of us

611
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: is given up twenty one for Dart and Frankly at

612
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: this point, if you if Rogers is in house, especially

613
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: if it's more than a one year deal, it's to

614
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: your deal either way. I think that's I'd consider it

615
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: round three. With how they're at now.

616
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm willing to take a bigger swing at a guy

617
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: with higher upside who isn't maybe he doesn't play a

618
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: down this year, Yeah the mill Jalen Milroe right right

619
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: right now?

620
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't.

621
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: He doesn't see the field at all, or maybe just

622
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: a package here and there. But he has the higher

623
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: upside from some of these other guys. Some of these

624
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: guys I just don't see the upside. Yeah, it could

625
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: be solid NFL quarterback, They could be bow Nicks. Well

626
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: I think is a a good Yeah, yeah, I think.

627
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: But I think his ceiling is to be the Kirk Cousins. Yeah,

628
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: the fourteenth best quarterback early.

629
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm still interested in McCord in

630
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: the fifth or sixth. I mean backup types, you know

631
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: that maybe a strike gold with but I'm even more

632
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: interested in a mill Row that could just sit niny,

633
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: nothing from him, no pressure. If you're two and thirteen,

634
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: he still doesn't even get in the game, you know,

635
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: no matter what.

636
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: And it's never going to be two and thirteen.

637
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

638
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: But people who say that just haven't been paying attention, right,

639
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: I mean, the Steelers haven't as a franchise, haven't won

640
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: fewer than six games since like the mid eighties.

641
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: And I meant to say this last segment we were

642
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: talking about post Roethlisberger, because it's been several years now.

643
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: I put a graphic out on a chart on Twitter,

644
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago over the last decade, the

645
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: only team with the better record in the regular season.

646
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: In the regular season, I know they're on a playoff wins.

647
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been here too, We're aware, right, it's

648
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. I mean, they's the second best. And there's

649
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: a lot of different quarterbacks a lot, right, right, the

650
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: second best winning percentage in the regular season over the

651
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: last decade to be said for that.

652
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that includes Duck Hodges right right, right, includes

653
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky.

654
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: End of career. Wasn't wonderful for Ben you know what

655
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: I mean, right, I mean, it wasn't him in his

656
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: prime lighting them up and they put a bunch of

657
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: stuff in the bank. It's consistent wins like the Patriots

658
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: are still on that list, but fading really really fast

659
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: or at the end, you know. But I would be

660
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: out on quarterbacks all together in round one the minute

661
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: Rogers signs.

662
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: This year this year, because I don't like I just don't. Yeah,

663
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: I just don't see anybody that's going to be worth

664
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: that pick.

665
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm not reaching on Dart just because.

666
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Unless unless and again I've just talk poorly about Sanders here,

667
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: but I still like him. Enough as a prospect that

668
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: if he were there at twenty one, okay, yeah, I

669
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: would be a strong consideration.

670
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: I would probably be out of it at this point too,

671
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: just because imagine the circus that could ensue, Well, it

672
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: would be a circus Sanders, Rogers, Rudolph and not the

673
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: Rudeolph's going to cause problems. But that's if you.

674
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: Think he's a potential franchise quarterback.

675
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: That's the thing is, I don't know that he is.

676
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know that he is either, right, all right,

677
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: I think he's a starter. Yeah, I think his ceiling

678
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: is toua yeah.

679
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that to me, that's not worth passing on

680
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant or you know, something like that or not

681
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: hear yet that was not a round pick.

682
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: But I think if that were the case and he

683
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: were available at twenty one, be interested in coming up

684
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: to twenty one.

685
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I don't even think he'll get

686
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: that far. If he gets to nineteen twenty, the team

687
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 3: that didn't get him early is you know, the Browns

688
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: or Giants or somebody like that, the Raiders. Somebody that

689
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: has an older quarterback is going to be aggressive. Yeah,

690
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: wish me fine. By me if he falls off the

691
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: board in nineteen, I'm not holding my breathro him to

692
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: get to twenty one.

693
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so that's where I'm out on Shador Sanders.

694
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: I think he's got some warts and their kind of

695
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: self inflicted boards.

696
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I mentioned even the Mannings and the Lways,

697
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: and people need not remember that Elway was such a

698
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: better prospect though. I mean, like if you s mel

699
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: Kuiper even was a better prospect, right, And I mean

700
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: Peyton was a good prospect, but like people forget half

701
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: the league wanted Leaf. Half of the league win a Peyton.

702
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: He was not a luck you know. I mean Elway

703
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: was a slam dunk. He's lebron.

704
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: He was the number one pick.

705
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: He had way more power.

706
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty different drafts.

707
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question. I mean, like melsaid, that's I've

708
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: heard mel Kuiper say, it's the highest grade he's ever

709
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: given a quarterback coming out. Yeah. Okay, that's a pretty

710
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: good company since nineteen eighty or whatever.

711
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, let's get to another break. He is

712
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly, and this is

713
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: the drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I

714
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: will be back with more right after this.

715
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: At least he is the Drive with Dale Lolly and

716
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of

717
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

718
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli and he is

719
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, and well, Matt, we spent a lot of

720
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: time talking quarterbacks here and apparently I don't even know

721
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: where this happened at, but somewhere I just saw something

722
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: tweeted about it that Jeremy Fowler went out on something

723
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: in front.

724
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: Of the show, and I like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's good.

725
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: Guy said that, Well, you know, the Steelers even if

726
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: they sign Aaron Rodgers, that doesn't take them out of

727
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback market this year. They could still take one,

728
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: you know, on day two or by the end of

729
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: day two, or you know, they could they could take

730
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: one next year. And people look at just like it's news.

731
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I don't think it is.

732
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: That's not news. You don't have quarterback. I mean, shigning

733
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: forty two year old Aaron Rodgers doesn't take you out

734
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: of the quarterback.

735
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: Especially from a year from now. I mean to me,

736
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: I just said five minutes ago I think I'd be

737
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: out of the quarterback market at twenty one. Yeah, and

738
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: I feel pretty strong about that. That doesn't mean I'm

739
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: not all over the rest of the class, or hey,

740
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: I might give you a future first to go get

741
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: whoever we love next year. At this time when we're

742
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: talking drafts, I mean, like that's what they've This isn't

743
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: the answer for the next deck No, right, right right.

744
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: We're looking at the wrong way. The NFL, as I

745
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: said before, is a year to year league at this

746
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: point unless you've got the guy, right and if you

747
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: don't have the guy, you're going year to year trying

748
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: to set yourself up to get the guy, Which goes

749
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: back to the comp picks that we've talked about.

750
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: All right, right, right, they got a lot of amma.

751
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: You've got all your ammo next year, and if you

752
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: have to make a big move to go up and

753
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: get a quarterback that you you think is the next

754
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, you think is the next Josh Allen, you're

755
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: positioned to go do that because you've got a lot

756
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: of extra ammunition in next year's draft, and you know,

757
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: if you have to also trade away a future first, Okay.

758
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 3: If it's for that type of picture.

759
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: If it's that guy, if you've identified that guy.

760
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: And frankly, i'd love to see how I'm going to

761
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: assume Rogers is a Steeler. I mean, that's not an

762
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: assumption we can make. But for argument's sake, if they

763
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: win twelve games in two playoff games, Aaron Rodgers, maybe

764
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: I'm not using a first round pick on a quarterback

765
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: next year. I mean, I know he's not going to

766
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: be here for five right, but if you're looking at

767
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: it like man, if they only have one more receiver,

768
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: they might be the best team in the league. Well,

769
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: then maybe I would push my chips in in a

770
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: non Steelers like way. If Rogers is one of the

771
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: best players in the league, you know, let's see how

772
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 3: the season goes. Yeah, but it's never a bad idea

773
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: to me. It's the McCord's or the Shucks or the

774
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, if you got one of those dudes,

775
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: see what they look like a camp and go. But

776
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm not in the first round market this year, but

777
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: I probably will be next year.

778
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 2: Look at how Tampa Bay handled this with Tom Brady

779
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 2: as an example. They got Brady when he was going

780
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: into his age forty three season.

781
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: It was that later. Wow.

782
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was even older than Aaron Rodgers. And

783
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 2: I understand Tom Brady's eating all the avocado ice cream

784
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: and the specials. They come right, right, But Rogers is

785
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: a better thrower of the football.

786
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: Oh, he's more talented. More. Brady would tell you that, right.

787
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pieces were in place. You had Chris Godwin there.

788
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 2: It was pretty good, Evins.

789
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: If he was a good team, he replaced Winston.

790
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: Folks had turned the ball over forty times to previous.

791
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: I think that was the thirty thirty year, right through.

792
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: Thirty interceptions and he lost ten fumbles. He turned over

793
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: forty times just at the quarterback position.

794
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: And Brady wisely had a lot of suitors and looked

795
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: at this team like they just drafted Tristan Wurfs. They

796
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 3: got a defensive minded head coach, kind of a quarterback. Away,

797
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: I can maybe convince Gronk to come with me. You

798
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: know see what I'm saying, you know right, see what

799
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: you're saying.

800
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: There. Brady comes out and throws forty touchdown passes and

801
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: twelve interceptions, throws for forty six hundred yards. He hadn't

802
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: thrown for forty six hundred yards were more than forty

803
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: six hundred yards since twenty fifteen, and he herds thrown

804
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: forty touchdown passes since two thousand and seven, when he

805
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: threw fifty.

806
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: And if you remember, the first ten eleven twelve games

807
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: weren't great. I mean it wasn't terrible. They weren't the

808
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: worst team in the league. He wasn't a bad player.

809
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: They had a very late late bye week and they

810
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: kind of had to come to Jesus moment where what

811
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: I like to do and what you guys do a

812
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: little bit of oil and water. We need to get together,

813
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: and they said, Tom do your thing.

814
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: That's because Arians offense was just let's drop back and

815
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: chuck it deep. Yeah time and Tom again, Yeah right

816
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: right right.

817
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: I was forget trying to remember who the offense coordinator was,

818
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: and that adds up one hundred. I mean, Brady's gonna

819
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: dissect you by death.

820
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: By a thousand twel Arians got fired here, Yeah, yeah,

821
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: because all that, it's all he wanted to do. The

822
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: quarterback is getting killed.

823
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: And I don't know what the Bucks lost again, I

824
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: know they didn't in the playoffs.

825
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you look at that season, what

826
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: do he gets sacked that year.

827
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: Looking game by game, there's a clear delineation from what

828
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: I remember of post By. Yeah.

829
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 2: I mean even at that he still only got sacked

830
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: twenty one times because he's Tom Brady and he's just

831
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: going to get rid of the football.

832
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: But sacks are quarterbacks stat.

833
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a quarterback stat. And you know you

834
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: look at the So I understand if that, if that's

835
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: what you think you're trying to recapture here or trying

836
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: to do.

837
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it right.

838
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: Right. The Bucks were not a Super Bowl team with

839
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston.

840
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: I don't eve think they were a playoff team.

841
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: They weren't. Yeah, they weren't. They went seven nine, they

842
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: were right, five hundred went seven and nine with the

843
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: same talent, and they took and plucked Tom Brady and

844
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: put him in the middle of.

845
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: That at the similar age of Rogers.

846
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: To your point, they went eleven and five and won

847
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

848
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll take it.

849
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: And they had a lot in place, not saying that's

850
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers, right, But I understand

851
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: why you would you would.

852
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: I understand why he's in town and you're talking to him.

853
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: This this was twenty twenty. This is not ancient history. No,

854
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: this is modern football.

855
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: This is the way that you know, this is George

856
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: Blanda did it.

857
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: It's the same reason the Jets tried to take this one.

858
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: The problem is is the Jets didn't have the same

859
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: pieces in place, and.

860
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: It kind of looked like they did and they gave

861
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: up some good stuff a ton to get him, a

862
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: ton to get him too.

863
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: That's like, this is this is signing a guy much

864
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: like you know, Tampa Bay. Did you signed him as

865
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: a free agent?

866
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, give him money. That's he's got a lot

867
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: in the bank. He's not gonna be the highest paid

868
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: quarterback in the league. He's not going to destroy your cap.

869
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: You know.

870
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: No, it makes all the sense in the world to me, right, Yeah,

871
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: And I could see why it's attracted to him, and

872
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: so I guess you.

873
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: Know, I'm not gonna stand here and say again my

874
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: only concern, my biggest concern. I've said this from day

875
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: one is the off the field stuff of Aaron Rodgers.

876
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: You didn't worry about that with Tom Brady, No, No,

877
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he does commercials and things like that,

878
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: but it was never what's his priority? Number one, just

879
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: to be a quarterback.

880
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Be a quarterback and when Yeah, we'll see how that goes.

881
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: I think it's super intriguing if it does actually happen, though, Yeah,

882
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: I certainly will make well of a lot to talk

883
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: about when people talk about, you know, this Steelers aren't

884
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: being aggressive enough.

885
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: What's more aggressive than this?

886
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a pretty aggressive move. I mean, I thought

887
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: last year was aggressive, but it also was nice because

888
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: the costs were so great. You got a gift that

889
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: fell in your lap. Let's try it, and we kind

890
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: of and they kind of did do it, and they

891
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: did do it with Wilson. But what if it was

892
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: just a better version of Wilson? Yeah, you know what

893
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Like Wilson had a presence in camp and

894
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: you know, locker room and leader and all that kind

895
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: of stuff, and there's immediate respect, you know. I mean,

896
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: he's not trubisky, off the scrap heap type of guy.

897
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys, this guy's got again up in

898
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, right, Rogers is definitely in the

899
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, you know. Yeah, so well you're Pratt Fryarmouth.

900
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: Like I've been in League for a while. But I

901
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind getting huddle with Aaron Rodgers all the time.

902
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean, let's go.

903
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: You know, right, he's gonna throw the tight end the ball.

904
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: Well that too, Yeah, that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen, right,

905
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean I made Tyler Conklin a thing.

906
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's had a lot of them.

907
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 3: I know, By the way, for our purposes, training camp

908
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: would be a blast. I mean everything would be a

909
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: little more elevated, you know.

910
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: I just if this does happen, there's the league because

911
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: one of the big rooms, one of the three teams

912
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: the Steelers could play in Dublin is Green Bay.

913
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: Ah. Okay, they're gonna play him anyway.

914
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna play him one way or the other. Does

915
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: the league want to do that and make that, you know,

916
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: Green Bay versus Pittsburgh at ten o'clock in the morning

917
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: on Sunday or do they want that as a Monday

918
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: night game?

919
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: I would say, what the do the International Games get

920
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: more views than a typical one o'clock I mean they're

921
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: a standalone I know, but they're weird times. Yeah, I

922
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: don't know if they get great ratings or just good

923
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: ratings everything. I have no idea I thought it was

924
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: good as a Sunday night or that one would get

925
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: pretty good. Yeah, really big. I don't think he played

926
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: He didn't play the Packers last year. I don't think.

927
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: I mean the year before, if they were on the schedule,

928
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: you think they played him. But that's scream Sunday.

929
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: Night or to me, yeah, or Monday night football or whatever.

930
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: It may be standalone game of some sort.

931
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but well, and again, Dublin will be a standalone game.

932
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: Do you want to do that? Like the media crush

933
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: on that, people like all the networks will be well, oh,

934
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: we got to send somebody to Dublin now.

935
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. If they weren't playing on originally.

936
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah we weren't. We weren't going to send somebody to Dublin.

937
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: But now we're going to send the whole crew.

938
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: No, that could be cool. That could be cool. Now

939
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for it, I absolutely am.

940
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to another break. That's going to do

941
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on

942
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with

943
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: our number two right after this