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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to episode two sixty seven of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast,

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Speaker 4: resented by Pepsi. We have a loaded show for you

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Speaker 4: guys today as we are less than double digit days

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Speaker 4: away from the NFL Draft. Helping us break down with

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Speaker 4: the Vikings should do in a few days is Voice

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Speaker 4: of the Vikings Paul Allen, who is going to be

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Speaker 4: leading the show April twenty fifth, US Bank Stadium at

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Speaker 4: the Miller Lyte Draft Party. Make sure you guys grab

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Speaker 4: your tickets and let's get right into today's edition of

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Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Less than double digit days away

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Speaker 4: from the start of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft,

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Speaker 4: and as we all know, the number one talk is

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Speaker 4: the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: Welcome inside the TCO Radio studio.

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Speaker 4: This is the Minnesota Vikings Podcast presented by Pepsi. My

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Speaker 4: name is Gabe Henderson. I'm alongside Jay Nelson and this

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Speaker 4: is episode two sixty seven. I know I started this

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Speaker 4: show off talking about quarterbacks. Well, we have a quarterback

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Speaker 4: in the room as our special guests. He is the

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Speaker 4: quarterback of the Vikings Radio Network and his name is

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Speaker 4: Paul Allen, voice of the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: PA, appreciate you joining us today.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thank you guys very much for asking me. And

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Speaker 5: it's it is podcast what two six nine six seven?

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Speaker 5: You guys are going to catch and pass UFC which

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Speaker 5: is up to three hundred, like it's tied to a post.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's yeah, simply because I mean you've done

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Speaker 5: so many and there are so many things to talk about.

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Speaker 3: And Jay was at UFC three hundred this past weekend,

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Speaker 3: that is correct. Yeah, it was awesome. It was a

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Speaker 6: It's something that I try to get there annually to

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Speaker 6: So my buddy and I that I usually go with,

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Speaker 6: he's from California, we met up and said, yeah, let's

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Speaker 6: for UFC three hundred and it did not disappoint him.

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Speaker 5: And you got my man Holloway, you know, because like

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Speaker 5: I told Jay earlier on nine to noon on k Fan,

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Speaker 5: and it's you know, UFC. I've known what it was,

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Speaker 5: So I'm watching it and hollow the metaphor here and

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Speaker 5: the Minnesota Vikings do that that Thursday. I hope it's

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Speaker 4: That's the reason why people watch fighting, That's the reason

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Speaker 4: and everyone is looking for that knockout selection. You had

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Speaker 4: What were some of your thoughts on him, basically addressing

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Speaker 5: Well in having an elongated conversation with Kevin from the

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Speaker 3: And whether that's all this, the the.

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Speaker 3: He was very composed.

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Speaker 6: I think the thing about that too, the it's almost

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Speaker 6: But I think people are so ramped up about this

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Speaker 5: Well, that's an awesome question because it's even last week

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Speaker 3: To meet with Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, you know, we're in an NFL facility, so

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Speaker 5: the word betting doesn't doesn't fly around much or certainly

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Speaker 3: So like, you know, there was.

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Speaker 5: A big move with Jaden Daniels to be the second

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Speaker 6: To me, really quickly, it's almost like taking the Act

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Speaker 6: But to me, it just feels like there's been so

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Speaker 5: As a non team employee, okay, so I'm not compensated

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Speaker 5: to call games by the Minnesota Vikings, which, believe it

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Speaker 3: Okay, you in yep? Number one.

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Speaker 5: Clue number three completion percentage unaffected by blitzes, and it

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Speaker 5: Well, Clue number four is grandfather is named Dick Hammer.

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Speaker 3: That's his name, Sam Donold. Uh, come on, man, how'd

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Speaker 7: would make, there was some times where that uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: that release and and that motion was maybe a little

442
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Speaker 7: bit longer. But like with a lot of you know

443
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 7: guys in this league, the game speeds up. You start

444
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Speaker 7: to play, hopefully in a rhythm based offense where you

445
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 7: can tie your feet knives together and anticipate throws and

446
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 7: do some things where you're playing on your time clock

447
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 7: and not the defenses. Sam's had the ability to really

448
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Speaker 7: I think that's one of the things that jumped out

449
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Speaker 7: to me. It was limited tape, no doubt, from his

450
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Speaker 7: year in San Francisco, but I thought he really got

451
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Speaker 7: efficient with his lower half. He really got in a

452
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Speaker 7: place where he could. He looked to me like he

453
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Speaker 7: was in a true growth stage even at this point

454
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Speaker 7: in his career, and I saw a lot of good

455
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Speaker 7: things that I cannot wait when we are allowed pay

456
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Speaker 7: to get out on the grass and start coaching these guys.

457
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Speaker 7: Sam's going to be somebody that I'm just excited to

458
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Speaker 7: work with. And I've always been a fan, and I

459
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Speaker 7: think quarterback environment is a huge thing for all of

460
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Speaker 7: us that have ever attempted to play the game, and

461
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Speaker 7: big time I get to be in a role where

462
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Speaker 7: I get to try to help that for all the

463
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Speaker 7: guys that play quarterback for US.

464
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Speaker 5: Completion percentage unaffected by blitza is that's pretty cool.

465
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you all the time.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

467
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Speaker 7: I go back to that he played against Ohio State,

468
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Speaker 7: I believe the darnold.

469
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you were Washington quarterbacks coach, passing game coordinator,

470
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 5: and so you're looking hard at him, right.

471
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Speaker 7: And whether it was you know, it was the full

472
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 7: gamut of that Ohio State defense and not a lot

473
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Speaker 7: of them were blocked that night, and he stood in

474
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Speaker 7: there and stared down the barrel making throws and I

475
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Speaker 7: just remember that's That's always been something I remember about

476
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 7: it because you can learn a lot about guys when

477
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Speaker 7: circumstances are not let's just call him less than ideal.

478
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Speaker 4: Right, well, Pa, that is I mean the game that

479
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Speaker 4: you played with Kevin O'Connell. Not a lot of people

480
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Speaker 4: will get an opportunity to do things like that when

481
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Speaker 4: it comes to trying to break down some of the

482
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Speaker 4: or peelback some of the layers of the eye that

483
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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell likes to I guess show people when you

484
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Speaker 4: were talking to him basically trying to get him to

485
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Speaker 4: break but also educating the fans. What were some of

486
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Speaker 4: your takeaways from that?

487
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Speaker 5: Well, the the game that I played it was basically

488
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Speaker 5: I thought it was fun, Kevin thought it was fun.

489
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Speaker 5: Media relations thought it was fun. Okay, So that's how

490
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Speaker 5: it works. Bam, bam bam, and out of respect, I mean,

491
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Speaker 5: do I have to do this no media relations? Sam Extrom,

492
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Speaker 5: excoose Me, Sam Newton, John Extrom, Carly Bonk, Sarah Joram,

493
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 5: Jeff Anderson, the whole cast. You know, the the when

494
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 5: when I talk to a lot of young broadcasters about

495
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 5: you know, hey, what's the take to do a B

496
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Speaker 5: and C. And you know the after saying just if

497
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 5: God made you unique, well be yourself while being unique

498
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 5: and outwork everybody. But then after that is if once

499
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 5: if and or when you get in somewhere, you know

500
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 5: you've got to make sure that friendships are forged with

501
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 5: media relations and they're authentic, you know, because it's there's

502
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 5: some backscratching to it, but not like fixing races. So

503
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 5: you know they fixing races in that. Well, you know,

504
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 5: how come Gabe gets, you know, these nine players and

505
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 5: Jay only gets these two, not like that. That's very important.

506
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 5: So therefore, you know, I will get here super early

507
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 5: on a day I have Quasia Dopha Mensa or Kevin O'Connell,

508
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Speaker 5: and I'll get with Sam, I'll get with John, and

509
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 5: I'll be like, hey, here's what I'm thinking, you know.

510
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 5: And so I had this idea to play this game,

511
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: but Sam Newton suggested to me at seven fifteen this morning,

512
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 5: why don't you build it up like a quarterback from

513
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Speaker 5: a draft. And here's what NFL dot Com said. So

514
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 5: then clue number one and we went through it all

515
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 5: and he nailed Darnold after analysis piece number three. So

516
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 5: the reason I did that and talked about some other things.

517
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Speaker 5: Is because Kevin was so gracious and so kind whenever

518
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: the owner's meetings were to do a twenty five minute

519
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 5: interview with me and I'm back at k Fan and

520
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 5: I asked him about all what Drake made Jade and

521
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: Daniels JJ McCarthy gave two and a half minute answers.

522
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Speaker 3: You know that was awesome. You don't get that from

523
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Speaker 3: a head coach every day.

524
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Speaker 5: I'll just be square with you. I mean from Mike

525
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 5: Tice when I started No.

526
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Speaker 3: Two.

527
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Speaker 5: And I love Mike and like all these guys for

528
00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 5: different reasons. Tye Childress, Frasier Zimmer, I'm never I'm never

529
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Speaker 5: asking those questions maybe with Leslie, but I had no

530
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 5: problem asking them with Kevin. Didn't run it through media relations.

531
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 5: They were in Florida and he ran with it. So

532
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 5: that's just kind of the backscratching give and take is like, Okay,

533
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 5: you're gonna sit down with me for twenty twenty two

534
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 5: minutes like he did the day we did the interview,

535
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 5: but it's not going to be you know, now, the

536
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: fans of course listening. You know that those are the

537
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 5: ones we're serving and the minute. I forget people take

538
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: time to turn on nine to noon or listen to

539
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 5: me call games the Vikings obviously in the subject matter

540
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 5: or the a topic, but people take actually go out

541
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 5: of their way to listen. Well, I have a high

542
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 5: level of reverence for that. That I serve you. You

543
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 5: don't serve me. Same thing with Kevin is that, hey,

544
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go over the questions here or anything.

545
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 5: The last one. The way it went was a plus.

546
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Speaker 5: I mean, milk the hell out of the quarterback analysis

547
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 5: for about the next week and a half nine to noon.

548
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 3: Thank you for that. So let's just have it.

549
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 5: Let's just sit back and chill and chat a little

550
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: talk about mock drafts and simulations and things like that,

551
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: and play this baby game and call it a day.

552
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was probably great that you did that interview

553
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: because it was a really phenomenal interview, which was on

554
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: Vikings dot com right now, as well as your interview

555
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 4: with KOC right now. But it was probably best case

556
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 4: scenario that you did not check your phone when you

557
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: were interviewing Kevin at the owner's meetings.

558
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Speaker 5: What happened, he says, you got a textaos, Oh no, yeah,

559
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 5: and that's another side of it, immediate good. Yeah, Jeff

560
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 5: with media relations was like fifteen Max, I didn't see it.

561
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: I go twenty five, I'm done texting people. I just

562
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 5: had Kevin talking about everybody was cool. But see, that's

563
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 5: that's an underlying strength in this building. I mean, you

564
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 5: and I, you and I are extremely close friends. So

565
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 5: you know, at the at the end of the twenty

566
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Speaker 5: twenty one season, after I'd called like twenty seasons of

567
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 5: Viking football, I was like, I called a couple of

568
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: wild games. You know, I'm kind of like, eh, you know,

569
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 5: it's it's man, It's just it's like there were some

570
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 5: changes in everything. Well then O'Connell rolled in and we

571
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: had that twenty twenty two season, and I mean it's like,

572
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna step back a little bit, and

573
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 5: I don't, you know, need to be here and kicking

574
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 5: my feet up here and I don't need to be,

575
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 5: you know, all that anymore. By the middle of that season,

576
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 5: I was here four or five days a week. I

577
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 5: couldn't get enough of it. Kevin had a lot.

578
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Speaker 3: To do with that.

579
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Speaker 5: I mean, I really I just adore him. I know,

580
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 5: he's a high level head coach. He's a high end

581
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 5: head coach, specifically with offense scheming and his staff and

582
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 5: learning more about the staff. Still, like like two years ago,

583
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 5: Brian Angelico the tight ends coach.

584
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm doing x's and o's in the.

585
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 5: TV studio for Kfan and Vikings dot Com, and you know,

586
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 5: he's talking about the red zone offense and the importance

587
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: the tight ends coach Brian Angelico has in it because

588
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 5: he's like a red zone savant. So then I'm watching

589
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: the red zone the rest of the year and I'm like, damn,

590
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: that was really really nice. So the vulnerability to not

591
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 5: have it be I've waited thirty years for this, damn it,

592
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna do it my way whether I'm in

593
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 5: or out. I just specifically in this day and age,

594
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: I just love Kevin's vulnerability and he is a wonderful

595
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 5: head coach.

596
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 6: But I think that's the thing that also makes him

597
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 6: a great head coach is the flexibility that he has

598
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 6: and he's not necessarily holding onto every single position going

599
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 6: I'm running everything. It's like he's letting and empowering other

600
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 6: people to be able to do what they need to

601
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 6: do to be able to be successful. Right one of

602
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 6: the things that I think there's been a lot of

603
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 6: discussion here this offseason about the amount of roster change

604
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 6: that's happened, especially defensively. If you look at some of

605
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: the changes that we've had, I mean, there's some high

606
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 6: profile players that left and that we've also brought in

607
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 6: some guys that we assume at this point, yeah, are

608
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 6: going to be big money hitters for us at this point.

609
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 6: How do you assess the way that this offseason has gone,

610
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 6: and what do you think at this point going into

611
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 6: the draft, besides quarterback is the biggest need on this roster.

612
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up defense, just to land

613
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 5: the plane on Gabe's question about like what would listeners learn,

614
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 5: I mean that owners meeting interview that we had, Well,

615
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: you learned what Kevin O'Connell over two and a half minutes,

616
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 5: as much as he's willing to share thinks about the

617
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 5: quarterbacks that everybody talks about. Secondly, with this one, and

618
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: to Jay's question about the Brian Florees defense, is let's

619
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 5: I like to start baseline and unpacked from there. So

620
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 5: I said to Kevin, it's like, Okay, this defense is tricky,

621
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Speaker 5: It's hard right, yes, all right, Well Mike Evans the

622
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: Philly game, Keenan Allen, all right, well that's not great.

623
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 5: But then after that, once seemingly an outsider like me,

624
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: it clicked. I mean, like, if you think Harrison Smith

625
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 5: and Jordan Hicks knew everything inside and out, I can't

626
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: believe everybody did. But by the fourth game, everybody did

627
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: and we could see how good that defense got. So

628
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: now take it another step off. What Jay's question is is, okay,

629
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: so the defense needed to become unified by learning the

630
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 5: tricks through three games and there were problems, then it

631
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 5: was fantastic majority of the time. Then you have players

632
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: playing more than they've ever played, and if you believe

633
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 5: legs got tired near the end of the season, that

634
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 5: probably is going to be expected. But it's fact that

635
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: from Harrison Phillips to Josh mattellis Ivan Pace Junior but

636
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: he's new cam binam Jordan Hicks, there are more than

637
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: a handful of players or a handful of players who

638
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 5: are coming off the best seasons of their careers. And

639
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 5: that's with one of the harder defenses this side of

640
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 5: Spagnolo in the entire NFL to learn, Well, what are

641
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 5: they going to be like in their second season? Are

642
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: what a Caleb Evans, Makai Blackman, Biron Murphy Junior. I

643
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 5: thought was okay most of the time, like what are

644
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: the secondary and buyer Murphy Junior is not a secondary

645
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: type player, but just the players I didn't mention. Well,

646
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: now that they've seen it for a year. You know,

647
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: we had problems at Cincinnati, you know with T Higgins

648
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: and there there were like black men and the Caleb Evans.

649
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: They just spinning around and stuff that's gonna happen the

650
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: other team just to make plays too, and so do

651
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 5: superstars like T Higgins. Okay, well, what are the youngsters?

652
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: How much are they going to improve year two? Now

653
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: that they know what Flores expects and when I mean that,

654
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: that really excites me.

655
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: And just understanding that there are going to be newer

656
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Speaker 4: guys on this Minnesota Vikings defense that can only that

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Speaker 4: can only make a Vikings fan more excited just thinking

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Speaker 4: about what this defense can look like. We know what

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Speaker 4: the offense can look like with you know, Kevin o'connelly

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Speaker 4: a bunch, but what does that look like with Sam

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Speaker 4: Darnold or Jared Hall or Nick Mullens.

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Speaker 3: So it's to your point.

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Speaker 4: I know we talked about it on your show earlier

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Speaker 4: this earlier this week is Quasi Adolpho Mensa is confident.

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Speaker 3: Nord mention it. He said, QUAYSI has this weird confidence.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: And I think the reason for Quasi Adolpho's confidence from

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Speaker 4: Mitz's confidence is due to his offensive leader and his

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Speaker 4: defensive leader having head coaching experience yep, and getting the

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Speaker 4: best out of their guys. Now they just have to

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Speaker 4: bring in the right talent to fit this game in

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Speaker 4: order to make these guys better. And I think this

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Speaker 4: upcoming year's draft will start to see what that looks like.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean we A reference I used recently nine

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Speaker 5: to noon K Fan was an old Ricky Rubio quote.

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Speaker 3: I don't I can't.

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Speaker 5: Remember what it was from maybe had too many turnovers

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Speaker 5: they lost or whatever, and he wears his emotions on

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Speaker 5: his face. Ricky just with this adorable high pitched voice,

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Speaker 5: said I need to change my face. Well, I think

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Speaker 5: Vikings fans, including me, do too. And here's why. When

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Speaker 5: it comes to Quasia dol Fa Mensa is okay, the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two draft doesn't look like it's going to

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Speaker 5: be the greatest draft in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 5: So that's the starting point. And the title here is

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Speaker 5: general manager. But the general manager for the Minnesota Vikings

687
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Speaker 5: his job, duties and requirements. Our faces need to change.

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Speaker 5: It's not I don't believe it's exactly what you would

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Speaker 5: think a general manager would do over the last fifty

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Speaker 5: years of the NFL, like getting the roster younger and

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Speaker 5: making sure you're not looking for nickels and dimes in

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Speaker 5: free agency every off season. So like, say they resigned

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Speaker 5: JJ before the season, Like, you know, I'm under the

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Speaker 5: belief that they could do that and still be like

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Speaker 5: seventy five to ninety million under the cap. All right,

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Speaker 5: So say you think whatever player from twenty twenty two

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Speaker 5: is it working out and won't work out? Okay, that's

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Speaker 5: part of the equation because to who much is given,

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Speaker 5: much is expected, and that's that man's title. Well, how

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Speaker 5: do you balance that with getting the team in a

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Speaker 5: free agency position in a very short amount of time

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Speaker 5: to get Darnold on a one in ten Aaron Jones

703
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Speaker 5: to flip a on all teams but leave his former

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Speaker 5: team in five seconds, you know, on a one year deal.

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Speaker 5: That's massive Grenard Van Ginkel Cashman and so on and

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Speaker 5: so on. You know, but to do that you have

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Speaker 5: to have requisite cash, and Quasi and the staff have

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Speaker 5: put the team in a position to do that. I

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Speaker 5: just think it's terrific.

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Speaker 6: And you're set up for next year where it seems

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Speaker 6: like you're going to have even more cash to be

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Speaker 6: able to work with that. So, yeah, some of these

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Speaker 6: guys are going to be on one year contracts this year,

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Speaker 6: but they're proven deals. There's going to be some more

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Speaker 6: cash available next year. It's gonna be a whole nother

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Speaker 6: crop of people are going to be free agents. And

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Speaker 6: I think the thing that we've seen the most over

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Speaker 6: here over the last what three years now is the

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Speaker 6: amount of roster turnover that's happened. You still have YOURR.

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Speaker 6: Harrison Smith's and your CJ. Hams and some of the

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Speaker 6: OG veterans that are currently on this team. But I

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Speaker 6: think the thing that is that is I guess most

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Speaker 6: encouraging is they're willing to constantly evaluate, constantly find ways

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Speaker 6: to plug into that equation to try to get the

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Speaker 6: most they can out of this team. I think a

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Speaker 6: couple of years ago you probably got way more than

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Speaker 6: you thought you were going to in those one score games. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: last year at flipped and one the other direction. I

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Speaker 6: kind of feel like going into this year now that

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Speaker 6: we've got you know, kind of play is that they

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Speaker 6: seem to feel like they know what the formula is

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Speaker 6: that they want to run. Yeah, and they've they've gone

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Speaker 6: out and found those guys, and now you're gonna supplement

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Speaker 6: that with the draft. And then you know, people think, well,

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Speaker 6: pre agency's done, draft is done, We're not going to

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Speaker 6: do anything else to the roster.

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Speaker 3: That's not how that works, right.

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Speaker 6: They're constantly evaluating over the summer, they're constantly evaluating through preseason,

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Speaker 6: and they're constantly evaluing during the season, and they're going

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Speaker 6: to do what they can to get the maximum out

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Speaker 6: of this team and try to win, not only to

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Speaker 6: get to the playoffs and make a run in the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: to make it worth it.

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Speaker 5: Well, no matter which or if any quarterback they end

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Speaker 5: up with out of this draft, no matter if it's

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Speaker 5: a massive trade up like everybody talks about a majority

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Speaker 5: of people want, or it's wherever.

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Speaker 3: You know, I it's.

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Speaker 5: My belief and I think it would be you know, specifically,

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Speaker 5: given it's not going to be Caleb Williams. He will

751
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Speaker 5: go first to the Bears. Sam Darnold is is going

752
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Speaker 5: to play. Okay, and if you find your way to

753
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Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels, Drake May, JJ McCarthy, Pennix, Nicks, Rattler, Gabe's

754
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Speaker 5: got with the big arm from Tennessee. Who throws the

755
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Speaker 5: ball eighty yards. It doesn't matter who it is, forget

756
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Speaker 5: the name is. Sam Darnold probably is the right guy

757
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Speaker 5: to play early in the season. Now you're gonna have

758
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Speaker 5: people listening. Now you know who you know? Are gonna

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Speaker 5: think what I'm about to say. Oh, there's Barney the

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Speaker 5: Purple dinosaur waving the pond pods and he's the Viking

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Speaker 5: cheer leader Homer, which a fair amount of that is true,

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Speaker 5: but just not with this this statement is I'm the

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Speaker 5: one into last season? Okay, who said I think Sam

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Speaker 5: Darnald gives the San Francisco forty nine ers every bit

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Speaker 5: as good a chance, if not better, to win a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl than brock Perty. Okay, Now, Perdy played the

767
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Speaker 5: whole year, did a wonderful job. They came up short,

768
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Speaker 5: but there was Sam Man.

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Speaker 3: You don't go.

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Speaker 5: Third overall in the draft because you don't have anything

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Speaker 5: to you, all right, So you know whether it was

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Speaker 5: a bad pick or a or a you know, a

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Speaker 5: situation system wise, being third overall in the New York

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Speaker 5: market and being kind of a reserve, quiet guy, and

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Speaker 5: the skin and the talent around him or lack thereof

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Speaker 5: in two of his spots. You know, it's you put

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Speaker 5: all that together and you recognize that this man has

778
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: terrific arm strength, super smart handles. He completes passes when blitzed.

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Speaker 5: That's like, there are two major underrated things with Sam

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Speaker 5: that I remember from when the Vikings played at the

781
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Speaker 5: Jets and the Vikings played at Carolina Is And I'm

782
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Speaker 5: told all this stuff. I'm not trying to be Mike

783
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Speaker 5: may Alcohol twenty two savan here, but I was told

784
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Speaker 5: he handles blitzes and completes passes or throws in, completes

785
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Speaker 5: when it's the right time to do it about as

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Speaker 5: well as anybody. You're going to see why, Like that's gone, No,

787
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Speaker 5: that's not gone. He just didn't have a chance to

788
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Speaker 5: play because of the Niner situation. But you also think

789
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Speaker 5: of from whom he's learning in that Niner situation. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Kyle Shannan's one of the most well respect offensive mines

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Speaker 5: over the last twenty years of the NFL. And Kevin O'Connell,

792
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Speaker 5: you know what I think of him. So a lot

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Speaker 5: of the attributes Donald had, including his sneaky athleticism where

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Speaker 5: he runs when you don't think he's going to run.

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Speaker 5: He's fast. He's really good inside the ten and the

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Speaker 5: five running. From what I understand, they're not gone. All

797
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 5: of those are still there. Maybe they just need to

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Speaker 5: be manicured and put in the right spot so this

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Speaker 5: man can flourish. So the Barney of the Purple Dinosaur

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Speaker 5: statement is I'm excited to watch Sam Darnald and see

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Speaker 5: what because this is on Sam. A lot of this

802
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Speaker 5: is on Sam. It's like when Jaren Hall comes into

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Speaker 5: a game. Yeah, Jaren, it's on you, but it's on

804
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Speaker 5: the staff too. I mean, it's a big opportunity for

805
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Speaker 5: Sam Donald, and he's gifted, so I can't wait to

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Speaker 5: watch him well.

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Speaker 6: And he's going to be set up perfect because he

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Speaker 6: has a quarterback as a head coach that can help

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Speaker 6: speak the language of what he's trying to do. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: all those inherent traits that are there, I think that's

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Speaker 6: going to be something They're just going to be trying

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Speaker 6: to get the most out of him, and I think

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Speaker 6: he's going to be set up perfectly for what they

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Speaker 6: need to do, at least to start the season.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir pa, last question for you probably got a

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Speaker 4: minute or so here. We are going to hear from

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Speaker 4: you at the draft party, marbly like Draft party April

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Speaker 4: twenty fifth at us Bank Stadium, but between then we're

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Speaker 4: not going to hear much from you. So on this podcast,

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you what would success look like

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Speaker 4: for this Vikings team via Draft Night Thursday Thursday.

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Speaker 5: For the Minnesota Vikings to leave the draft with exactly

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Speaker 5: the quarterback Kevin O'Connell wants.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 5: He loved him into the Lions game to end the

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Speaker 5: season from what he knew, loved him after. Then the combine,

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Speaker 5: the pro days and the private the sneaky meetings and everything,

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Speaker 5: and then there he is and you take him. So

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Speaker 5: whichever quarterback Kevin O'Connell and the offensive staff love most

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Speaker 5: it my preferred scenario in best case scenarios for the

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Speaker 5: Vikings to leave with that guy.

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Speaker 3: Love it well.

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