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Speaker 2: Infinity Boys.

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Speaker 3: We them boys, We're on the FSR.

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Speaker 2: That's right. The probationary period is over at them. Now

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Speaker 3: It's for real now, Daniel Son, and I'm afraid this

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Speaker 2: Kevin, Hey, okay, there's been a time back on the

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Speaker 2: old Finite podcast. We played some sound drops and all

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Speaker 3: I mean I was trying to play her jingle there

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Speaker 3: first there where you go. That's here's the jingle that

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Speaker 3: has been requested by people that have heard us here

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. Now, this may have started with

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Speaker 3: Petros and Money locally in l A, but it is

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Speaker 2: Let's to be honest. It actually started when Petros Matt

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Speaker 2: following at the time Pat O'Brien and Steve Hartman, who

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's that's tough to follow.

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Speaker 2: Say it to my face.

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Speaker 3: That was in there, Like, we got a lot to

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Speaker 3: work with. Now, this is the full FNA experience that

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Speaker 3: you guys are getting now. But we are very proud

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Speaker 2: Happy to be leading you guys into the weekend of football.

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Speaker 2: Every single week, Fox Football Saturday begins with us eleven

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Speaker 2: two am to five am. So looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you two am ors. Coming up on today's show.

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Speaker 3: We got a friend of ours, speaking of VM five

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Speaker 3: The great Rodney Pete will join us here. Former USC quarterback,

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Speaker 3: former Detroit Lions quarterback, Eagles quarterback, Raiders, Panthers, Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: So wash the well Cowboys for a year, the old

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Speaker 3: He's been around him.

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Speaker 2: Keep me so he got around a little.

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Speaker 2: Hey two, I can get around, so can Rodney. Peter

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Speaker 3: In the second hour. We also have the return of

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Speaker 3: one of our biggest features here on F and A.

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Speaker 3: It is the NFL six pack and Kevin has been revamped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have six different categories spanning the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Now on the old definite podcast days, we will recap

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Speaker 2: the previous weekend about things that happen. Now we're gonna

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Speaker 2: look forward into the upcoming weekend. Six different topics, six

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Speaker 3: Well, of course, have Breeze three a little bit of

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Speaker 3: geek news for you. Maybe if we have time, we'll

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Speaker 3: get into stuff going on in the NBA with Steve Baumer,

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Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard, and the Los Angeles Clippers, because if we

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Speaker 2: That is yeah, for those who don't know. Adam Alslon

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Speaker 2: Ashley on our thank you, Ben Mallard. That's right, Ada

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Speaker 2: on our local affiliate A five seventy LA Sports. So

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Speaker 2: we will acknowledge that that happened. The Kawhi Leondard, Steve Barber.

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Speaker 3: That's wrong, you know, Kevin. This is fortuitous that we

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Speaker 3: I was dead wrong. I was arguing back then that

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Speaker 3: I wish we had a football game every night of

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Speaker 2: I've had many a debate with Anthony about this. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem with that. And I've seen the light. Kevin,

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Speaker 3: We've gotten a real healthy sample size now Thursday night

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Speaker 2: Why would you mess it up now? If you're plugging

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Speaker 3: Leave them wanting more, Yes, give them a tease. These

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Speaker 3: That's the difference. There's only like two minutes of commercials

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Speaker 2: Like it's like fifty to three or four fifteen second

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Speaker 3: I under seven hours of commercial free football. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: But Sunday is more of an event because you pack

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Speaker 3: on that day outside of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 3: of course. But I just want to make the point

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Speaker 3: I saw it on the rundown. It was very clearly

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Speaker 3: underlined and highlighted by Bree Adam. You were wrong about this,

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Speaker 3: You dumb ass, You dumb as That part's right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Well this time, yes, history was on your side. And

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Speaker 3: I will defer to you with all things NFL, including

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Speaker 2: Well, you deferred to me tonight when I said that

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Speaker 3: Bree, your studio, your your head is taking up too

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Speaker 3: On x at KFIG one saying, Kevin, you're gonna be wrong.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are gonna win the division for the tenth

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Speaker 3: straight time. You're trying to jump on the Chargers. They

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Speaker 2: Already is game one? Yeah about the Kansas City defense too,

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Speaker 3: You probably didn't expect Quinton Johnson to be catching now

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Speaker 2: To a certain degree, rightfully. So you were a first

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Speaker 2: Or something actually broke the Charges way for once, is

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Speaker 3: And things didn't come up roses for the Chiefs with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say so. I do think that the Kansas

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Speaker 3: For him well. And despite Travis Kelcey getting a touchdown

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Speaker 3: he was so wide open that he could outrun the defense,

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Speaker 2: This low down the last two years.

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Speaker 3: Also don't know what the running with the Bulls celebration

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Speaker 3: you did. If you're looking for silver linings here with

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City from their perspective, I know you're not Kevin,

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Speaker 3: damn good. He looks like an MVP version of Patrick

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Speaker 2: Across his body. Both times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, One he's parallel to the field, he's knocked

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Speaker 3: the extent of it with Worthy right now, you wonder

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I guess one saving grace for the Kansas

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Speaker 2: So that's one thing too, I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 2: it's very young, he has plenty of time to go,

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Speaker 3: Oh, this was the end of game botch situation by

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Speaker 3: you thought the Raiders were gonna win and Justin Herbert

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Speaker 2: They have twenty eight nothing something like that. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: It's not like he hasn't had big moments.

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Speaker 2: He has the talent, he has the ability, he has

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say tonight was everything with him getting

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Speaker 3: I would say, if the Chargers played to their best abilities,

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Speaker 3: But Justin Herbert was woeful. There was a lot of

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Speaker 3: He made us forget about that performance a little bit

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Speaker 3: I say this all the time because I watched him

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Speaker 2: That was a very arcade passing game. Arcaic. They didn't

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Speaker 2: we didn't know that he could dish it like this

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Speaker 3: It was between him and Tua right the pairing with

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Speaker 3: win the AFC West. I mean, we probably need to

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Speaker 2: Something tells me the look okay this weekend coming up

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Speaker 3: Got some catching up to do. Okay with what happened

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Speaker 3: last week in college football? There was some epic fails

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Speaker 3: going on. Your failure one from a coaching standpoint, one

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Speaker 3: from a player that was over hyped to some degree,

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Speaker 3: maybe by some people, by some not us talking about

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick and Arch Manning. Now, which one of these

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Speaker 3: two guys is gonna be able to turn things around quicker?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 3: I wonder, because Bill Belichick to me, heck that opening

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Speaker 3: drive things were looking good. He must have been feeling

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Speaker 3: real nice.

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Speaker 2: Is that the old Bill Walsh script?

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Speaker 3: The first drive situation must have been because everything was

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Speaker 3: downhill afterwards, But first that must have felt like dating

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Speaker 3: a girl who is twenty five when you're seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he knows nothing about that would mean.

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Speaker 3: It was going so well for Bill Belichick to start

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Speaker 3: things off. Someone actually said when the score was forty

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Speaker 3: one to seven that that's also the same age difference

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Speaker 3: of Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: forty one to seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't like the photo the besides by side

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Speaker 2: photos of like Jordan Hudson being born, and then Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick being introduced as the head coach of the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty fun.

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Speaker 3: The Air Jordan emblem they were using, yeah, was also

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Speaker 3: pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I then, so I have all the stars come out.

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Speaker 2: MJ was there and all these celebrities, and it's one

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Speaker 2: thing to lose, but to get run off of your

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Speaker 2: own home field by no disrespect to TCU and I

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Speaker 2: like Sonny Dykes, a middling big twelve team pretty embarrassing,

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Speaker 2: it says embarrassing as he gets.

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Speaker 3: Especially because they looked completely out of source. They were overwhelmed,

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Speaker 3: they were disc that did that look like poor coaching?

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Speaker 2: It looked like they were overwhelmed on the offensive and

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Speaker 2: defensive lines. And when have you ever been able to

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Speaker 2: even when the Patriots struggled at the very end of

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's tenure, it was rare that you say they

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Speaker 2: got out physical and physically dominated on the lines. That

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Speaker 2: never happened to a Bill Belichick coach team. Now they've

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Speaker 2: had a lot of turnover. He brings in seventy new guys.

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't Okay, who doesn't.

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Speaker 3: That's but it was his first game coaching in college football.

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Speaker 2: I will give him a little bit of he invented football.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean.

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Speaker 3: Not to me? That would be Rodney pet who's coming

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Speaker 3: player in the show.

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Speaker 2: He just has a little bit of a holier than thou,

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Speaker 2: you know, and he kind of always has. It's endearing

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Speaker 2: when Greg Popovich, you know, was kind of being an

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Speaker 2: a hole to like sideline reporters and all that he

525
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Speaker 2: was winning a lot of games and it became part

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Speaker 2: of his stick. Sure, the problem with Bill Belichick is

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Speaker 2: it's not stick, that's just kind of who he naturally

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Speaker 2: is on a Cincinnati Yeah, so if you're going to

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Speaker 2: be that way, you better win because if not, and

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Speaker 2: you have incoming like this, it's a really really bad

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Speaker 2: look and a horrible way to start.

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Speaker 3: I did think he was strangely accommodating to the media

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Speaker 3: after such a pathetic loss compared to the stuff he

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Speaker 3: did with the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem. Is it strange look at all

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Speaker 2: the things that have happened around North Carolina since he's

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Speaker 2: gotten there, The fact that he's dating Jordan Hudson, the

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Speaker 2: fact that he was in negotiations with Hard Knocks. They

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Speaker 2: wouldn't give Jordan enough creative control, so they said no

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Speaker 2: to HBO or HBO actually said no to them. They

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Speaker 2: went to HULU, who said, sure, we'll take it. The

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Speaker 2: trademarking of what was it, sugar daddy, baby daddy, what

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Speaker 2: was it?

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Speaker 3: That's just smart business man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, sure it is whatever. So you're cold digger,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, same difference. He's all of this stuff

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Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick would never have been caught debt doing

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Speaker 2: when he was in New England. It was all about

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Speaker 2: do your job, don't let the distractions seep in. He

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Speaker 2: had issues with Tom Brady and his trainer and his

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Speaker 2: avocado shakes and all this stuff and not being a

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Speaker 2: part of the team. Now, all of a sudden, Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick is doing the exact opposite of everything that he

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Speaker 2: preached for twenty years in New England, including to your point,

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Speaker 2: being accommodating and talking to the sideline reporter before the

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Speaker 2: game and she talked about his cut off, his stupid

557
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: cutoff sleep sweatshirt. All right, thank you. What you do

558
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: now is get run off your own home field by TCU.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he has to get back to nasty stubborn never

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Speaker 3: wants to be accommodating Bill Belichick to bring out the

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Speaker 3: best in his football team. I do think it's premature

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Speaker 3: for everybody to come out right now and say, well,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady was the real brains of the operation. Tom

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Speaker 3: Brady won the divorce, and this is a legacy moment

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Speaker 3: here for Bill Belichick. If he struggles in college, then

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Speaker 3: more people are just gonna say it was all Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Bill was lucky to be along for the ride with

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Speaker 3: the Patriots, and the part's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And people who said that after Tom won the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl at Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: I can't take it. You know, I'm a Tom Brady truther.

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Speaker 3: I know Rob Parker here at Fox Sports Radio has

573
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Speaker 3: been calling him the lot for a long time, and

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Speaker 3: I don't always agree with Rob in this way. I

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Speaker 3: do because there are four plays outside of Tom Brady's

576
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: control that would take away four rings very easily, of course,

577
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Speaker 3: starting with the tuck rule against your Raiders, the Malcolm

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Speaker 3: Butler interception, the Robert all For drop pass for the

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Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons that went right through his hands, the d

580
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: four off sides play against Kansas City. All that stuff

581
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: was outside of his control and win his way somehow,

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Speaker 3: like he's got a horseshoe with four leaf clovers and

583
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Speaker 3: rabbit feet tucked up somewhere speaking of the tuck rule,

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Speaker 3: and that has been carrying him for a long time.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to make it very clear where

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Speaker 3: I stand on Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick

587
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Speaker 3: put together those defenses that were always top five when

588
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Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl. I'm not going to act

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Speaker 3: like what happens at North Carolina is going to define

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Speaker 3: him as a football coach. No, I would never say

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Speaker 3: that unless he gets beat by forty every game.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's gonna happen. Now. They go

593
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Speaker 2: out and give even if it's close against Charlotte. And

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Speaker 2: this is not Biff Pogi, who is one of the

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Speaker 2: great characters in college football, and it's a shame he's

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Speaker 2: no longer at the University of Charlotte. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you know Biff Pogi. He was a Jim Harball disciple.

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Speaker 2: He would wear basketball shorts and sleeveless T shirts. As

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Speaker 2: the head coach at the University of Charlotte, he was

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Speaker 2: just let go. I think two years ago.

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh's a Khakis guy.

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Speaker 2: Though, No, I mean Biff Pogi would have put it

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Speaker 2: on you. So I have very little doubt that North

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Speaker 2: Carolina's gonna end up beating the University of Charlotte, and

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Speaker 2: they they like Archer, will get to in a little

606
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Speaker 2: bit have some cupcakes coming up. So if they're ever

607
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: going to get some momentum and be able to turn

608
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Speaker 2: it around, it's gonna be in these next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not a fan of how Bill Belichick has

610
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Speaker 2: just handled this entire situation. You had the Kayl and

611
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Speaker 2: Kaylor report that came out from ESPN a couple of

612
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Speaker 2: days ago that he and Michael Lombardi have banned the

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Speaker 2: Patriots from sending scouts to practices, and not only that,

614
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Speaker 2: they've put all these restrictions, which they're within their right

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 3: We don't want, but you spying on us, that's what

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Speaker 3: that's our thing.

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Speaker 2: You can't take that away. And as someone asked Mike

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Speaker 2: Rabel about it on Friday, and he was like, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's their decision. Mike's not gonna throw Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick under the bus, obviously that's his guy. But putting

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Speaker 2: all these restrictions on scouts, just trying to put everything

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Speaker 2: as tight lipped as possible, and no one can view

624
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: our practices and what's there to see based on what

625
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Speaker 2: I saw on Monday night, there's nothing to see anyway that.

626
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Speaker 3: Mum's the word muzzle. Stuff with the media has not

627
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: turned out well for college football coaches as of late.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at one of my favorite Panthers is Sean

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Speaker 3: Foster and how things gone have gone at UCLA.

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Speaker 2: You know UCLA plays football in LA right, Well, I

631
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Speaker 2: learned that. Okay, just making sure that his Big ten

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Speaker 2: media make you sure you knew that.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty insightful.

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Speaker 2: Now when it comes to Arch, there's a more layer

635
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Speaker 2: here because to your point, he got so much hype

636
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Speaker 2: coming in and none of this is his fault. It's

637
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: never the kid's fault, Arch, he just has. It's fortunate

638
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Speaker 2: in many senses because he wouldn't have been rated as

639
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Speaker 2: highly in all of this. But it's unfortunate because the

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Speaker 2: expectations are so high with the last name Manning. If

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Speaker 2: his last name were not Manning, he wouldn't have gotten

642
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Speaker 2: into this hype. He wouldn't be making however much he's

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Speaker 2: making an nil. I'm sure it's a Crapton at the

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Speaker 2: University of Texas. I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 2: I mean again, there were scouts who were saying, if

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Speaker 2: his last name weren't Manning, he'd be a three to

647
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Speaker 2: three and a half star recruit who'll be a solid player,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he'd be able to break through and start

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Speaker 2: as a junior for a Power five program, but be

650
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Speaker 2: nothing necessarily special.

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Speaker 3: People are saying after that loss to Ohio State, with

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Speaker 3: how poorly he played, that Arch could be working at

653
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Speaker 3: the Golden Arches if it wasn't for him having the

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Speaker 3: last name Manning. They were saying that far. They said,

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Speaker 3: we were comparing him to the wrong oncle. We should

656
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Speaker 3: be comparing him to Uncle Rica, Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.

657
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: Like with his throwing form, it was that bad there.

658
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: But I just want to remind people that you can't

659
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: have a much tougher opener in a road game then

660
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: going up against one hundred and twenty thousand at the

661
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Speaker 3: Horseshoe as your real coming out party to show what

662
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: you can do as the starter. So I don't I

663
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: think he was shook more than anything. Some of those

664
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: thrills are it's not because he can't make them, it's

665
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 3: because he was shook. He was rattled. He was in

666
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: his own head and then everybody piles on. As predicted

667
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: by his father Cooper Manning six months ago. He knew

668
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Speaker 3: exactly how the media would treat him after the first

669
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Speaker 3: time he struggled.

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Speaker 8: I think having your children struggle with some things is good.

671
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, it's frustrating not to play. Did he

672
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 8: love it?

673
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 9: No?

674
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 8: Was it probably good for him in the long run, yes,

675
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 8: And so you know, you know, you don't want your

676
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 8: kiddos to come home and be unhappy. But at the

677
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 8: same time, sometimes going through a little hardship and some

678
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 8: bumps in the road are are good. Archie is gonna

679
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 8: have plenty more of those. You know, these are the

680
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 8: real ones when you get beat this year throw have

681
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 8: bad games. I mean they're you know, you know how

682
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 8: they do in the media. They they crown you.

683
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: Way too early and they jump on and kill you.

684
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Speaker 8: So he's getting over way too much attention and way

685
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 8: too much credit, and he's gonna struggle and they're gonna say.

686
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: He's not as good, he's overrated.

687
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: It's coming.

688
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: We are right, knows it.

689
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: By the way, his uncle Peyton got this when he

690
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: was at Tennessee because what was the big thing for him?

691
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: You can put up all these yards and all these stats,

692
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: but when it matters, you couldn't beat Florida. You can

693
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: never win a national championship. And the very year that

694
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: you leave as the number one overall pick to the

695
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, some guy named t Martin steps in that

696
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: quarterback and Tennessee wins the national championship. Like this sort

697
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: of thing follows a lot of great players. Now, the

698
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: problem is Arch doesn't have the pedigree of Peyton, obviously,

699
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: but it's unfair to put these sort of expectations on him.

700
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: So but I do agree with Cooper, it's trial by fire.

701
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: If you are going to end up making it, these

702
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: are the moments you're gonna have to face and come

703
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: out of that adversity and see if you can grow

704
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: from it.

705
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: I just have a hard time against anybody that young. Yeah,

706
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: I have a hard time doing but especially somebody who

707
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: point out that he's getting undeserved attention. Yeah, seems like

708
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 3: he carries himself with some humility. He seems like he

709
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: knows that he hasn't squashed a grape yet, He's done nothing,

710
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: and he's been overhyped by people who will swing the

711
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: other way immediately as soon as he has a bad performance. Hey,

712
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: it's not his fault that Paul Finebaum and who was it,

713
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: Dan Orlovsky, those guys were talking him up like that. Yes,

714
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: his last name's Manning. Also not his fault. He is

715
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 3: in a really tough spot.

716
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think Desmond Howard said something really

717
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: interesting earlier this week. He says, because his last name

718
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: is Manning, and people don't want to run a foul

719
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: of the Manning family because they have a lot of power,

720
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: especially in college football. The Manning Passing Academy is an institution. Anybody,

721
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: any quarterback that's worth his salt over the last decade,

722
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: has gone through that academy, and sc outs are there

723
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: and coaches are there, and there's a relationship there with

724
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: the Mannings and David Cutcliff and all that, and they

725
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: don't their criticism. They will try to find ways and

726
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: highlight ways to say that, oh, this wasn't necessarily Arch's fault,

727
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: somebody ran the wrong route or whatever. And Desmond's like,

728
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm watching film and this guy's missing reads left and right.

729
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Is I'm not trying to be overly critical. I'm just

730
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: trying to be honest. And there's a lot of people

731
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: in our industry that do not want to be honest

732
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: because they're afraid of being overly critical because of what

733
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: the Manning family might say.

734
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: Like there's some mafia kind of over your shoulder listening

735
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: to every critique.

736
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: You haven't think. I don't think off base for saying that,

737
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: by the way, But to get back to.

738
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: Our original point here, between him and Bill Belichick and

739
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: what's going to happen moving forward and who has a

740
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: better chance of turning things around, Well, Bill's legacy, he's

741
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: a made man. Even if he really struggles.

742
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: He could be MJ with the Washington Wizards. It won't matter.

743
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, the schedules decent. They got Clemson,

744
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: but they don't play Miami or Florida State this year.

745
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: Arch Manning, he's still carving out his career here. He's

746
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: the one under much more pressure. And by the way,

747
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: they got to go on the road to take on

748
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: the Gators and the Georgia Bulldogs. They're likely going to

749
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: have three losses and that means there's a good chance

750
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: you're not gonna make the playoffs.

751
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. I mean, the thing is Texas has

752
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: their their roster overall is pretty amazing. So we mentioned

753
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: these next three weeks, they don't play Florida. I think

754
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: until next month. He's got time to build up some confidence.

755
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: They have three consecutive games against you know, no disrespect

756
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: but cupcakes for lack of a better term. So if

757
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: he can get some confidence, wrack up some wins, get

758
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 2: some stats underneath him. I think I know that sark

759
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: wants to be able to run the ball and play

760
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: with defense and not necessarily have to have arts drop

761
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: back forty five times a game to win, because I

762
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: think right now they know that they can't do that.

763
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: So the idea that he has all the pressure on

764
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: the shoulders to literally go out and win every game

765
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: for Texas is unrealistic. And I think Steve Sarkisian knows

766
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: that he just needs to be able to play within

767
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: himself and make plays when necessary.

768
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Speaker 3: It's FNA on Fox Football Saturday. He's Kevin Figures. I'm

769
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: Adam Moslin. Coming up next, we'll get to some geek news.

770
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: We got a video game fact for you. You may

771
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: not realize it, but you could be sitting on a

772
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: gold mine with some of your old retro video games.

773
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: That's next right here on the fn A on FSR.

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784
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: We do it once a week, sometimes every other week,

785
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 3: bi monthly, bi weekly. How does that work? Anyways, it's

786
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: geek news. You're playing D and D tonight. You want

787
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: to come gay lessen guys, won't be challenged that I've

788
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 3: been chewing online.

789
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 9: With Babs called just keep your power close on her

790
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 9: passion race you want Kendelin?

791
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 5: All right?

792
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: So we got Rare video games are making people a

793
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: lot of coin, you could say, and I don't mean

794
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: Rare is in the gaming company Rare that gave us

795
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 3: classics like Donkey Kong Country.

796
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: A check Foo.

797
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if they did Jaqufu but maybe

798
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: they did GoldenEye Jack, Who's not a classic? Not my book.

799
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm more of what was the Michael Jordan one in

800
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: the Windy City?

801
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Are the Charles Barkley one shut up in

802
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: jam Yeah? Or you would say, go get the damn

803
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: ball if it bounces away from you.

804
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about rare games that have remained sealed,

805
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: are in perfect condition, have been graded and sold at

806
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: auctions for the type of life changing money in the

807
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: upwards of two million dollars. That's what a mint condition,

808
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: unopened copy of the original Super Mario Brothers on any

809
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: s win for in twenty twenty one. Now do you

810
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: know the stories of an old lady who had a

811
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: sixty nine Mustang collecting dust in her garage for forty

812
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: years and so it only had fifteen thousand miles on it,

813
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: The little old lady from Pasadena type things. Well, this

814
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: grandmama bought a copy of Super Mario Brothers for her

815
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: nephew and Christmas of nineteen eighty five.

816
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: Well, that was nice for Larr Johnson to do that.

817
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: That was very sweet of them.

818
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: Forgot about it. Oh even an actual grandma not okay,

819
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: not converse related. This grandmama left it untouched in a

820
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: drawer for thirty six years, and the nephew eventually sold

821
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: it in twenty twenty one for a record two million

822
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 3: dollars at Heritage Auctions to an anonymous buyer, probably because

823
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: they didn't want anybody tailing them after they paid that

824
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: much for a.

825
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Game that is unbelievable.

826
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: The latest story isn't quite as lucrative, but it might

827
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: remind a few of you to dig through the attic

828
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: and make sure you aren't sitting on a Chaos Emerald

829
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: like gem of a game and not even know it.

830
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 3: This week of father and Son won uped a retro

831
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: gaming store in Vegas that didn't know what they had.

832
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: The store is called Pink Gorilla Games, which started in

833
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: Seattle but branched out to Sin City back in May.

834
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: This father and son were savvy collectors, Kevin. They found

835
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: a copy of try to Follow Me Here Ego Macon,

836
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: originally released on the Famicom that's the Japanese nees It's

837
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: called Famicom Okay back in nineteen ninety.

838
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm following you so far.

839
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: They're hardcore retro gamers in the US, and some of

840
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: those people have ANYS systems that can play a USA

841
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: cartridge or a Famicom cartridge. It's not that uncommon for

842
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: the retro people. But the game Ego Macon, it's interesting,

843
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: and that is it's a virtual representation of the actual

844
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: Go board game. It teaches you how to play the

845
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: Go board game, which is said to be the oldest

846
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: board game ever invented back in China twenty five years ago,

847
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: twenty five hundred years ago. I should say, okay, maybe

848
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: not twice time. It was such a young country, right,

849
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 3: It's pretty basic because it's so old. One player has

850
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: black stones, the other has white, and the goal to

851
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: take over more of the board. Why they have to

852
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: be black versus white, I don't know. They didn't step

853
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: into the technicolor which Dorothy yet you know. But the

854
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: rare video game was being sold for the lo low

855
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 3: price of eleven ninety nine at the retro shop in Vegas.

856
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: But I guess there's a series of them and they're

857
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: being sold on eBay for one thousand bucks. So the

858
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: kid gets it for twelve dollars and then on social

859
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: media posts how he can't put into words how happy

860
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: he is, especially because of the price tag on this game. Well,

861
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: the post got some traction. The store found out how

862
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: much this game was going for that they gave it

863
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: away for twelve dollars, and they actually took the high road.

864
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: They responded to the post and said score ore f up,

865
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: they're gained.

866
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: They just say, hey, give me my damn video game back.

867
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: There was no amount of bitterness for selling an one

868
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: thousand dollars game for eleven ninety nine. I like that approach,

869
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: Like maybe a stock boy still got fired here, but

870
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: they at least are like, hey, it's going to a

871
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: good home. And they gave them props. They said, sometimes

872
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: you can get one over on the pros. They didn't

873
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: grade it well enough in the store. These retro gamers

874
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: found it and can make a pretty penny if they wont.

875
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: Hey good for them. I won't pay three hundred dollars

876
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: for Xbox console, let alone for a actual game. I

877
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: don't care how old or knew it is. That's ridiculous

878
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: to me.

879
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: But it's about a game that's twenty five hundred years old.

880
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: This board game. People are show into board games now.

881
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: I never heard this go.

882
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: I got one thousand dollars I'd rather spend elsewhere. How

883
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: about coming up next, the debut of the NFL six

884
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Speaker 2: Pack here on FSR. Don't go anywhere.

885
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

886
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Speaker 2: That's why Kevin Figures Adam Austin with you guys on

887
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Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday FNA on FSR. Hit us up onto

888
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Speaker 2: the Socials on x atkfig one is where you can

889
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: find me. You can find Adam at Follow Adam a

890
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: Coming up in about twenty minutes or so, we'll speak

891
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: to longtime NFL veteran now host on AM five to

892
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: seventy LA Sports Rodney Peats, talk about the first game.

893
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: Jitters talk about some of his memories of Opening Day

894
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: playing football in the NFL, playing.

895
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Speaker 3: With Barry Sanders.

896
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

897
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean he's one of my all time favorite players

898
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: because he played for my Carolina Panthers.

899
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: These are not your Carolina Pathers.

900
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: Correct, We'll get to that. Okay, things have changed over

901
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: the years. They have glitter on their helmets with the silver.

902
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: It looks bad. But this is our first edition and

903
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: a revision to an old segment we've been doing for

904
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: a while called the NFL six Pack.

905
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm curious to hear.

906
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: This sounds.

907
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 4: Time for the NFL six pack.

908
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: Okay, do you guys like that one? That's pretty good.

909
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: That's one way to approach it. Six pack of drinks,

910
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: possibly adult beverages.

911
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh, could have been soft drinks there at him. You're

912
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: a monster over there, Lacroix, something like that.

913
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: You guys like it? Ray?

914
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 10: I mean, how long have you guys been doing this segment?

915
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: Long time? Love, very long time.

916
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: Remember that game we were talking about that's twenty five

917
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: hundred years old, that board game. That's how long we've

918
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: been doing the NFL six pack here on FNA.

919
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, so just shout out, Ricky Herrera. I thank you

920
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 11: so much for the imaging. It sounds perfect.

921
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: And thank you Mike Linguard and Curious for hooking us

922
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: up with the instant replay machine here Mike, Lenny.

923
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: Big, Mike Linguard the only other Keller on a Panther

924
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: fan that I know other than you.

925
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only two of us exactly. There's only going

926
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: to be based upon how this season is likely to go.

927
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: So we got six different categories to get to here, Kevin,

928
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Speaker 3: do we want to run through them all or just

929
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Speaker 3: get to the ones we're going to do here? Right now?

930
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: Let's get through the ones we're going to do here now,

931
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: and we'll give you a little explanation as to what

932
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: they are as we go through them.

933
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So all these kind of get us into some predictions,

934
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Speaker 3: some analysis, a preview of Week one of the NFL season,

935
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Speaker 3: starting with the hot seat. Heat check.

936
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Speaker 4: Hot seat heat check.

937
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I just said the hot seat. That

938
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Speaker 3: was it? The hot seat?

939
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, you want to start things off coach

940
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: or player that you believe is under the most pressure

941
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: this coming weekend. So now, granted, how much pressure can

942
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: you actually have in Week one? You know, that's up

943
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: for debate.

944
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: It could be based off of something that happened.

945
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: Last year, Yes, and it is. And that person, to

946
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: me is Caleb Williams, and that's coming up on Monday night.

947
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: His father complained the entire time through the draft process

948
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: about the Bears not helping his son and he shouldn't

949
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: go there, and he tried to get an ownership stake

950
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: in the team and tried to convinced teams not to

951
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: draft him. It was a whole thing, now, Caleb, so

952
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: his credit really didn't say a whole lot of anything.

953
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: All of this was being filtered through his father. Well,

954
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: now the infrastructure seems to be there. They have one

955
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: of the best offensive coordinators in the NFL who is

956
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: now his head coach, who was one of the most

957
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: sought after offensive minds in the entire league over these

958
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: past two off seasons. They have all the offensive weapons

959
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: in the world. They have improved the offensive line. Though

960
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't believe that it is great, I do think

961
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: that it is solid enough. I think the excuses at

962
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: this point in time for Caleb Williams will officially be over.

963
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Granted, it is just Week one and you're playing up

965
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Speaker 2: against going up against a pretty damn good defense, one

966
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL, and Brian Flores.

967
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: But even with all that being said, I think it's

968
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Speaker 2: a huge Week one for Caleb Williams to show that

969
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: he has shown some growth. He is in a offense

970
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: that suits him, and he has offensive talent around him,

971
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: which he didn't have much of the last couple of years.

972
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Speaker 2: So I do think the player under the most pressure

973
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Speaker 2: going into Week one is Caleb Williams of the Chicago Bears.

974
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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is great, minds just think

975
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: alike or mediocre minds think alike. But I'm with you, Kevin.

976
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 5: Maybe you and I could partner.

977
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: Hup. Caleb Williams, he's under more pressure than Jeremy Allen

978
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: White's character in The Bear. This bear is like he's

979
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: super stressed out. He's saying, yes, chef all the time.

980
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: But no, Caleb Williams is far from a chef. He's

981
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Speaker 3: not cooking yet. He's not even prepping the food. He's

982
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: the hostess, front face of the restaurant, trying to look

983
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: good and presentable, all dulled up with his painted nails,

984
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: ready to accommodate your party and reserving you a seat

985
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: that's much less hot than his own. Even though his

986
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: numbers is rookie season weren't that bad. No, he had

987
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: twenty touchdowns and six interceptions.

988
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Stat's line, all right, Adam.

989
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: He did get sacked sixty eight times. That's big fumbles.

990
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: And as most players, coaches, analysts will tell you, a

991
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: lot of times, the offensive line takes the brunt of

992
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: the criticism when it comes to quarterbacks getting sacked, and

993
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: a lot of times they should. But a great majority

994
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks who get sacked an ungottly amount of times

995
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: it is on them and You don't even have to

996
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: be an analyst or an expert to go back and

997
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: watch some of those Bears games last year and see

998
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: him hold on to the ball forever. And we've run

999
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: in circles and get sacked.

1000
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: Being in southern California, we've seen him hold onto the

1001
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: ball slow with processing plays. But he won't be holding

1002
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: on to QB one long if he doesn't improve under

1003
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: his new head coach, Ben Jonson.

1004
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 2: We're gonna bench him for Tyson badget, is what you're saying.

1005
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: Let's I don't know. Didn't he just get like a

1006
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: new contractor he did at that? I'm just saying two years,

1007
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: ten million dollars. Caleb Williams seat is hotter than a

1008
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: sport pepper in a Chicago Dog and they are home

1009
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: dogs Monday night against the Vikings.

1010
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: We love being to a Chicago Dog. I've been to

1011
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: Portillo's in a while.

1012
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: All right, So we're on the same page so far.

1013
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: Where are we going next?

1014
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: How about we go to uh trap game tap? There,

1015
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: mark trap game tap. So someone who's in a bit

1016
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: of a trap game, you know, the next week they

1017
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: have a big opponent coming up, and this weekend could

1018
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: probably get slipped up a little bit. I'm going with

1019
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. The Washington Commanders faced the New York Giants,

1020
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: and look, they might be looking ahead to next Thursday

1021
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: Night's game against Green Bay, but I would not sleep

1022
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: on the New York Giants. I know they have Russell Wilson,

1023
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: who has to say the least struggled his last couple

1024
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: of starts the last couple of seasons. But they have

1025
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: a very dominant defensive line. They're better on defense, and

1026
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: I do think they're gonna give Washington problems. The combined

1027
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: final last year between the Commanders and the Giants eight points,

1028
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: the Commander has won both games by a combined total

1029
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: of eight points. Regardless of how good or bad either

1030
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: of these teams are, it seems to be tight, and.

1031
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: So of the records out to a certain degree.

1032
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: And look, I loved I love Jaydon Daniels as much

1033
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: as anybody. I know. It's really easy to say that

1034
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna go through the sophomore slump like c J.

1035
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: Stroud did last season. Maybe he will, maybe he won't.

1036
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: I tend to think that he's better overall than CJ.

1037
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: And I like c J.

1038
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: Stroud. I don't think he's a bad quarterback, but I

1039
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: do think jayden Is, you know, is potentially a generational player.

1040
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 3: They gave him some nice weapons of this pass offseason too.

1041
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: He might take a little bit of a half step

1042
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: back this season, but I still think the Commanders are

1043
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: gonna be a good team. But for this particular game,

1044
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: I do think the New York Giants give him a

1045
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: run for their money. So I do think Washington really

1046
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: needs to watch out for the upset this week against

1047
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and the New York Giants.

1048
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: All Right, my trap game tap here in the NFL

1049
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: six pack. You may think the NFC South is a

1050
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: joke of a division, because it is. And the sour

1051
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: cream of the crop is supposed to be the Tampa

1052
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers because they wanted to vision at ten and

1053
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: seven last year and lost close in the wild card

1054
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: round two the Washington Commanders. They open up in Atlanta

1055
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: as a road favorite, but uh yeah, two of the

1056
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: falcons eight wins last year came against the Buccaneers. Sure,

1057
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: the Dirty Birds may have lost six of their last

1058
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 3: eight games and didn't win a preseason game heading into

1059
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: this year, but they've beaten the Bucks in four out

1060
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: of the last six matchups between these two teams in

1061
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: the NFC South. Of course, now Michael Pennix, he he's

1062
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: their starter. Yeah, he's the member of the Falcons, that

1063
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 3: big arrow that is going to point them one way

1064
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: or the other, depending on how tall and erect he

1065
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: can stand in the pocket and how he uses the

1066
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: protection out there.

1067
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: I see what you did there.

1068
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm just I'm just wondering if

1069
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: it could be a problem in Week one to go

1070
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 3: up against a young quarterback that you don't have a

1071
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: lot of tape on, and a team that has had

1072
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 3: your number the last couple of years in the Tampa

1073
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers, who some people have not just going to

1074
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship Game this year, Sumber picking them to

1075
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: make it to the Super Bowl at Baker Mayfield.

1076
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: That's big, and I think they have to be Health

1077
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 2: is a big issue specifically for this game, because Tristian

1078
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: Wurf's is going to be out for Tampa Bay. McMillan

1079
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: I believe is out. Obviously, Chris Goblin's not going to

1080
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: be there, so there are some deficiencies. I do think

1081
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is a really good team obviously, and they're

1082
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: probably going to end up winning the Southern Division. But

1083
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Atlanta is a team you can count down.

1084
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: And I actually like this pick from you, Adam. I

1085
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: think Atlanta probably, I'll just say it, I think they

1086
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: end up beating him. I think they actually get the

1087
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: victory because not only do they have Michael Pennicks, who's

1088
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: has a full offseason under his belt as the starter.

1089
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: If you have Jon Robinson, who people think is going

1090
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: to take another step this season, if Kyle Pitts can

1091
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: get back to half of the player he was in

1092
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: his rookie season, he can make a difference. Drake London

1093
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: is not getting any worse. I think Atlanta actually has

1094
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: a chance to make some noise in this division this year.

1095
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: So I think that's a good pick by you.

1096
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: For someone to make some noise, it has to make

1097
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: some noise. Someone is going to win the NFC South.

1098
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: That's how it works, all right.

1099
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: How about we get to the next category, beer goggles

1100
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: skate there you go, Mark, Yes, so ugly matchup on

1101
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: paper that might turn out to be actually entertaining. And

1102
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn to your Carolina Panthers in the battle

1103
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: of the Cats there, Adam, I actually have this. It's

1104
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: low hanging fruit because it's Jacksonville and Carolina, two teams

1105
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: that don't have the highest of expectations. But look, we know,

1106
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: we know how these teams work out. It's you know what, Actually,

1107
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a late switch. Okay, I'm gonna make

1108
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: a late switch. Oh, a switcher was gonna like this

1109
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: even better. I'm gonna go with the Bengals in the

1110
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: Browns because a lot of people think that the Bengals

1111
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: coming back redemption, they're gonna run the Browns off the

1112
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: field with the forty year row Joe Flacwat quarterback. And

1113
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about this now. This is another one

1114
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: of those division matchups. It can go either way. The

1115
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: Bengals didn't really do much to improve defensively this offseason,

1116
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: to be honest with you.

1117
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: They happen to be an issue for this.

1118
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. So granted they got Hendrickson back, thankfully for them,

1119
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: but as we talked about last week, it didn't really

1120
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: end up making much difference for their unit as a whole.

1121
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: So honestly, I think this can actually be a situation

1122
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: where it's a high scoring game. I think Joe Flekol

1123
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: the old Man has some juice left in his arm.

1124
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: They can score some points against that Cincinnati team, and

1125
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: I think it might be one of the more entertaining,

1126
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: high scoring games of the weekend. So I'm gonna actually

1127
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: go with Cincinnati. I was gonna go with Carolina and Jacksonville.

1128
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm switching it up midstream and going with Cincinnati and Cleveland.

1129
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: I think that's a good pivot by you, especially because

1130
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: the Bengals traditionally the last two years have gotten off

1131
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: to really slow stars, miserably slow stars. All right, my

1132
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: beer goggles game, though here it is the Jaguars and Panthers.

1133
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: See sober me would see the Jags and Panthers game

1134
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: as a toothless two am or at the bar. But

1135
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: instead I got my beer goggles on, and I'm feeling

1136
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: more like former Jaguars coach Robert Meyer. I'm rocking that barstool,

1137
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: feeling as uncancellable as Dave Portnoy and that blonde the

1138
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: California Three he ran the Nelly Tip Drill music video

1139
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: credit card swipe with looking more like Sidney Sweeney to

1140
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: me right now. Those American Eagle Jeans commercials considering the

1141
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: condition that I'm in here in this beer goggles game,

1142
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: That's how good I think this Panthers Jaguars game could

1143
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: end up being. After all, this is the rubber match

1144
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: between the two nineteen ninety five feline expansion franchises, with

1145
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: them both being four and four against each other in

1146
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: head to head matchups thus far in their existence. The

1147
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 3: first meeting happened in nineteen ninety six, a year where

1148
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 3: both squads ended up making their conference championship games just

1149
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: to lose, with the Packers and the Patriots avoiding the

1150
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: second year expansion team super Bowl in the NFL. Is

1151
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: this the year the Cats face off in the Big Game?

1152
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, not that drug. No, I have some

1153
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: personal interest in this game as a Panthers fan. They

1154
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 3: are my team, and I consider the Jaguars arrival because

1155
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: they answered the league together at the same time, similar

1156
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: animals as team mascots. I wish bad they upon the Jags,

1157
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: just like they wish bad things upon the Panthers. Otherwise

1158
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be stuck with Bryce young to begin with.

1159
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: Hed better be Bryce older and wiser in his third season,

1160
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: or else his career is gonna be shorter than he is,

1161
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: and he already lost to the Jaguars twenty six to

1162
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 3: nothing in his rookie season, where he had a passer

1163
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: rating of fifty three point one. And the Panthers haven't

1164
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: won in Week one since twenty twenty one. They're on

1165
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: the road in Jacksonville against their fab y oh quarterback

1166
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: and Travis Hunter on Sunday. But I don't think he's

1167
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 3: gonna get one hundred snaps in on both sides of

1168
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: the ball.

1169
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: To you, I would highly doubt that. Yeah, it'll be

1170
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: entertaining to see. So I agree with you in there.

1171
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: That was my honorable mention. I think that would actually

1172
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: be a really entertaining game this coming weekend. Speaking of

1173
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers, a former Carolina Panther great gonna join us.

1174
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: Coming up next on fn A on FSR, the Great

1175
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: Rodney Pete talking about Week one of the NFL and

1176
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: his career and so much more. FNA on FSR coming

1177
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: up next with the Great Rodney Pete.

1178
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,600
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1179
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,399
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1180
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,960
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1181
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 12: I say the future is ours FNA, COTTONNA.

1182
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: It's FNA on Fox Fox Football Saturday, I should say,

1183
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,319
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1184
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,000
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1185
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,680
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1186
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,680
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1187
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,600
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1188
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,600
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1189
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1190
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: the iheartapp so it will always pop up at the

1191
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: top of your screen.

1192
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: All right, coming up in about twenty twenty five minutes

1193
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: or so. We'll get back into the NFL six pack.

1194
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: We gave you three at the top of the hour.

1195
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: We will give you three more at the end of

1196
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: this hour. But right now we got to get right

1197
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: to it because we have a lot to cover at

1198
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: him with one of our favorite guests, a friend of ours,

1199
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: former NFL great spend what fifteen sixteen years in the NFL.

1200
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: Let's get to it.

1201
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: Alan Dragan, Dude, thank you, Donny.

1202
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 3: Well, we're joined right now by Football Royalty. This guest

1203
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: played his college ball back at USC back when they

1204
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: had national championship expectations every year, and he did his

1205
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: part beating Troy Aikman both times in the Crosstown Showdown.

1206
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: And while he may have come in second in the

1207
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: Heisman to Barry Sanders back in nineteen eighty eight, he

1208
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: was first in my heart in the NFL when he

1209
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: played for my Carolina Panthers and saved them from a

1210
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: dumpster fire existence near the end of his fifteen year

1211
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 3: NFL career. So joining us is one of my football heroes,

1212
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: turn mentor, colleague and now friend. It's Rodney Pete here

1213
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: in weekdays on m five to seventy LA Sports Plus.

1214
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: You've watched him on Meet the Pets and Magic Johnston's

1215
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: Freaking Yacht, and it's always good to catch up with

1216
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: the international man of mystery who made the catch of

1217
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: the Year back in Japan when he casually snagged that

1218
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 3: foul ball away from Max Months he's saving his lovely wife.

1219
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: It's our man, Rodney Pete here on the f and

1220
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: a show on FSR. Rodney, how are we doing?

1221
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 5: Oh man? Man?

1222
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 9: Hey, Ryan's gonna have to get a copy of that

1223
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 9: for me because I can just play that over and

1224
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 9: over man, that was the best intro I think I've

1225
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 9: ever had.

1226
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 2: You deserve.

1227
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 5: I'm good, fellas, I'm good. How are you guys?

1228
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: We're doing all right? Thanks for joining us. I mean,

1229
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: with the NFL starting this week, Rodney, we need the

1230
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: perspective of somebody who has been there and done that.

1231
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: What is the lead up like for game one? As

1232
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: the starting quarterback in this league? What are the nerves like?

1233
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: Just the excitement level for our franchise heading into the

1234
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: opening week?

1235
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, first of all, never gets old.

1236
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 9: You can't wait the opening day, and it feels like

1237
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 9: it takes forever to get there. And sure, especially nowadays,

1238
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 9: I think it feels even longer to get there because

1239
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 9: most guys, and most quarterbacks don't play in the preseason

1240
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 9: and so they they haven't really tasted game action until,

1241
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 9: you know, since the last game of the previous year,

1242
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 9: So your your anticipation is high. And again especially if

1243
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 9: you didn't play any preseason game, because one of the

1244
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 9: things that you look forward to, and I know people

1245
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 9: probably don't believe this, but when it comes to quarterbacks

1246
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 9: is you look forward to that first hit and and

1247
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 9: you look forward to Okay, now now I'm in it.

1248
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: Now it's it's real. And until you get.

1249
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 9: That, it's it's that you know, that anxiousness, that nervousness,

1250
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 9: those butterflies, all those things rolled into one and then

1251
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 9: you take that first hit and you're like, Okay, it's good.

1252
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 9: It's it's game time. This is real football. Let's go.

1253
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 9: So it's uh, it's it's exciting because every team, at

1254
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 9: least theoretically every team feels like they got a shot.

1255
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: To make the playoffs in Week one.

1256
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 9: So you know, they feel like they've worked hard and

1257
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 9: they've got the tools, they brought in the right guy.

1258
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 9: They feel like, hey, if we can get off to

1259
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 9: a good start, then maybe we got a shot.

1260
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: Have some faith, have some hope.

1261
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: Now.

1262
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been talking about depth charts a little bit,

1263
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson being passed over for Danny Dimes. And we

1264
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: brought you up a couple of weeks ago, Rodney, because

1265
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 3: we were doing a segment talking about players who got

1266
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: screwed in their careers. And I know you would never

1267
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: say this, but I felt like, we'll say it. You

1268
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 3: being benched in the first half of Game one back

1269
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: in two thousand and three by John Fox and the

1270
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers for Jake Dell Home. I mean, that was

1271
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: a big move at that time, a bold move at

1272
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: that time. Take us behind the scenes. What's the conversation

1273
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: like that, because I mentioned it in the intro. You

1274
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: took this team from being one and fifteen to seven

1275
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: and nine. You helped them get six more wins when

1276
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: you came in. You did so much for the franchise.

1277
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: And then the very next year, the first game, all

1278
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're getting benched.

1279
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it was.

1280
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 9: It was tough, man, It really was, because I felt

1281
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 9: like that previous year, as you mentioned, you know, the

1282
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 9: morale of the Panthers was horrible. One in fifteen it

1283
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 9: was it was, I want to say similar, but it

1284
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 9: was almost like that year that I took over for

1285
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 9: Chris Winkie because I didn't know it wasn't in the game,

1286
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 9: but I didn't know I was going to start until

1287
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 9: that Wednesday of that week.

1288
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 5: It was Chris it struggled with.

1289
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 9: The new offense and new coaches and all that he

1290
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 9: struggled the year before, and they leading up to Week

1291
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 9: one he was going to go and be the starter.

1292
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 9: And then I think they had all got and had

1293
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 9: a conversation with the owner because you know, Chris was

1294
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 9: their number one pick from the year ago, and the

1295
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 9: owner said, and they asked him that, you know, do

1296
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 9: you want to how do you want to play this?

1297
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 5: This?

1298
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 9: Do you want to go with the guy we drafted

1299
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 9: in the first round last year and see if you

1300
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 9: can player?

1301
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 5: Do you want to win?

1302
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 9: And that was a simple question for for Jerry Richardson

1303
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 9: at the time, and he told him, hey, let's go win.

1304
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 9: Let's go win, and so they decided to go with me.

1305
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 9: We end up beating Baltimore in that first game that year,

1306
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 9: and so I'm sure, I'm sure it was difficult on Chris,

1307
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 9: you know, kind of being the second year, thinking he's

1308
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 9: gonna have that opportunity to grow, and he really didn't.

1309
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 9: You know, for me in that previous year too, we

1310
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 9: finished four I think we won four of the last

1311
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 9: five games, and so there was a little momentum going

1312
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 9: into the next season, and you know, you would think,

1313
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 9: or at least I believe that I would have the

1314
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 9: opportunity to play at least two or three games, right

1315
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 9: and if I stunk it up for two or three games,

1316
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 9: then they make the move. But certainly had no idea

1317
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 9: that that was coming in first half of that game

1318
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 9: against Jacksonville and we weren't necessarily getting getting blown out either.

1319
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 9: I think it was like maybe ten or fourteen or

1320
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 9: nothing at halftime or something like that, and we definitely

1321
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 9: did struggle moving the ball.

1322
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 5: A little bit.

1323
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 9: But man, they came to me at halftime and said, hey,

1324
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 9: we're gonna We're gonna go with Jake, and yeah, it

1325
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 9: blew my mind.

1326
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 5: It was a tough blow and uh, but you know,

1327
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 5: you deal.

1328
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 9: With it and you just move on and just stay

1329
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 9: ready because you never know when those opportunities are gonna

1330
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 9: come back again.

1331
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 5: So if you, you know.

1332
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 9: Put your hand in the sand and go, you know,

1333
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 9: f that and uh, you know, I'm done with this

1334
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 9: team or whatever, and all of a sudden something happens

1335
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 9: to him and you got to go back in the game.

1336
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 9: Your mindset is off, so you got to stay ready,

1337
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 9: even though you're pissed off.

1338
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: Fifteen year NFL veteran Rodney p joining us here on

1339
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: f sixteen.

1340
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 4: Don't tell me short, excuse me.

1341
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to steal that

1342
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: you were in Washington away from you. There, Rodney, My

1343
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: apologies there a sixteen year NFL veterans, Yes, Rodney p

1344
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: joining us here F and a on f SR. So

1345
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: I want to go back to something you said in

1346
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: your first answer about the optimism that most teams have

1347
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: going into every single season. And I'm sure that's absolutely true.

1348
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: But in the back of your mind, and you played

1349
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: for a lot of teams in your career, was there

1350
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: ever a time breaking camp where you said, Ooh, I

1351
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: don't think we got it this year, man, this is

1352
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. Ever once in any of your teams

1353
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: that you played for across your mind like, this is

1354
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: probably going to be a really tough year for us.

1355
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: And if so, how do you deal with that mentally

1356
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: knowing that you might kind of have a defeatist attitude

1357
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: going into the season before it even starts.

1358
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm trying to think of those years. Yeah, I

1359
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 9: think it was probably it wasn't Detroit because when I

1360
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 9: first got to Detroit as a new coaching well, Wayne

1361
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 9: Fonson was an interim coach year before and then brought

1362
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 9: in Mouse Davis and June Jones, So it was a

1363
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 9: lot of hope and excitement about the run and shoot

1364
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 9: coming to Detroit. So we went into you know, those

1365
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 9: years actually feeling pretty good. And we I think oftentimes

1366
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 9: when I was in Detroit those five years, we finished

1367
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 9: the season pretty strong, so we felt that we were

1368
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 9: just a step away. But in typical Detroit fashion, every

1369
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 9: time you got close, they would either trade or not

1370
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 9: sign back key players on our team, and it really,

1371
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 9: you know, set us back. I would say maybe the

1372
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 9: only time was my last year in Philly and it

1373
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 9: was ninety eight and I wasn't I wasn't going into

1374
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 9: the season as a starter. Bobby Hoyne was, and you know,

1375
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 9: they had drafted, drafted Bobby, and they wanted to give

1376
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 9: him a shot. And we had struggled the year before

1377
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 9: and played rotating quarterbacks with me and ty Depmurra. And

1378
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 9: then Bobby finished up and played the last three games

1379
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 9: of that year when we were totally out of the playoffs.

1380
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 5: So he was slated to start the first game.

1381
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 9: But I remember they brought in an offensive coordinator named

1382
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 9: Dana Bible, and I don't want him throw him under

1383
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 9: the bus, but he came from college. He was at

1384
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 9: Boston College, I believe, and then it was at some

1385
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 9: other places. But the offense that he implemented just was

1386
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 9: very very basic and just not NFL worthy.

1387
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 5: It really wasn't.

1388
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 9: And you know at that time, I had already been

1389
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 9: in the league for eight years, and it's like, man,

1390
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 9: this is we're going to struggle. Because we struggled in

1391
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 9: every practice against our defense. And then we struggled all

1392
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 9: pre season long, and I'm talking about every quarterback struggled

1393
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 9: to move the ball.

1394
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 5: It was.

1395
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 9: It was really like a a high school college team

1396
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 9: trying to run an offense against an NFL defense.

1397
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: Was that mobile offense where you only got.

1398
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 4: Pretty much pretty much pretty much.

1399
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 9: So yeah, so that year it was like, man, this

1400
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 9: is this is this is not looking good. And by

1401
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 9: the way, in that year and the ninety seven year,

1402
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 9: they Sean Payton was on the staff, Gruden brought him in,

1403
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 9: was on the staff, and in ninety seven he Gruden

1404
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 9: left and went to the UH went to the Raiders,

1405
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 9: and so Sean Payton was there. Yet they didn't move

1406
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 9: Sean Payton up. They brought in Dana Bible. And we

1407
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 9: couldn't believe it because Sean, we knew Sean put in

1408
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 9: all the work. He was he was the grunt guy

1409
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 9: back in Philly when I was there with him.

1410
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 5: But he knew his stuff.

1411
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 9: He was smart and just ambitious and hungry, and we

1412
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 9: thought it was a perfect move just to allow him

1413
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 9: to do it, and plus he'd learned under Gruden and

1414
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 9: all that. So when that didn't happen, that was another blow.

1415
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 9: We were like, man, why didn't they just give the

1416
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 9: job to Sean keep everything the same instead of bringing

1417
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 9: somebody new in and have a new offense. And so

1418
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 9: that was another thing that made it struggling. And then

1419
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 9: we got blown out by Seattle in that first game.

1420
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 9: It was like, Okay, this is gonna be a long year.

1421
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: Rodney Pete is our guest here on F and A

1422
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: on FSR. So, Rodney, you finished top two with Barry

1423
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: Sanders and eighty eight for the Heisman. Then you're playing

1424
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 3: with him in Detroit. Was there ever a surreal moment

1425
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 3: for you where you're like, you know, I'm gonna soak

1426
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 3: this in a little bit when I'm handing the ball

1427
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: off to this player. He may go down as the

1428
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: best ever.

1429
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, oftentimes, man, you know, to see him, You know,

1430
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 9: Barry was exceptional because everything was so effortlessly done with him,

1431
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 9: but yet he was magical with the football in his hands.

1432
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 9: And I often got yelled that in film sessions the

1433
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 9: next day, because you know, as a quarterback, when you

1434
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 9: hand the ball off, you're supposed to basically fake like

1435
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 9: you still got it, to hold the defense in position

1436
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 9: to make sure that they are not closing on on it,

1437
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 9: and try to hold the defensive end so he can't

1438
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 9: crash down. And I became the worst faking quarterback in

1439
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 9: the league because I as soon as I'd hand it off,

1440
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 9: I just want to watch it. Because he would just

1441
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 9: do so many things. And some of his best runs

1442
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 9: were for like two yards or even just getting back

1443
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 9: to the line of scrimmage.

1444
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 5: So he was absolutely amazing, amazing.

1445
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 9: And you know, he didn't show a whole lot of emotion,

1446
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 9: which is weird for a guy that talented to not

1447
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 9: get overly excited when you do something big and jump

1448
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 9: up and down. He rarely did that. He would crack

1449
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 9: a smile from time to time. But as you guys

1450
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 9: remember just flipping the ball to the referee and then

1451
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 9: going to the sideline sitting down, and that was barry.

1452
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 9: But yeah, he absolutely was incredible, in my opinion, the

1453
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 9: best that ever ran.

1454
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 5: Ronnie.

1455
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: Can we bring you back to what happened on Thursday

1456
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: night at the start of the game, right after kickoff,

1457
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: and the incident between Jalen Carter and Dak Prescott and

1458
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: the whole spitting situation. I've talked to you in the

1459
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: past and you talk about things that happened at the

1460
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: bottom of piles and things that get pulled and twisted

1461
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: and turned. But I mean, there's very few things that

1462
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: can measure up to utter disrespect to a man then

1463
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: spitting at him. So we saw what Dak Prescott did.

1464
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: Much later we found the clip of him spitting in

1465
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,919
Speaker 2: the grass in front of Carter and then Carter walks

1466
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 2: into his face and does that Had you ever witnessed

1467
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: anything like that throughout your playing career and if so,

1468
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: how did you react?

1469
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 5: No?

1470
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 9: No, I mean there is always trash talking, and you know,

1471
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 9: you guy's gotten fights and things like that, But like

1472
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 9: you said, there's nothing more disrespectful than spitting in somebody's

1473
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 9: face or spitting on somebody. And that's like, you don't

1474
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 9: even have to be taught that. You know that as

1475
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 9: a kid growing up up, you know that as you

1476
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 9: get older, it's like that you really want to disrespect somebody,

1477
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 9: you spit on him and the fact that he did that,

1478
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 9: and it was clear Dak spit in the ground.

1479
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 5: He wasn't spitting at him.

1480
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 9: And first of all, that's not Dak's mo o that

1481
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 9: he's not that kind of guy that would do that,

1482
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 9: just unsolicited.

1483
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 5: So it was ugly. It was ugly.

1484
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 9: I'm glad that he you know, Dyln Carr said he

1485
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 9: was sorry it was a bad move afterwards, But man,

1486
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 9: that should have never happened. What I you know, I

1487
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 9: guess couldn't quite understand why there wasn't a full melee

1488
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 9: after that, you know, you know, because you could see

1489
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 9: it was like in front of other people and it

1490
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 9: didn't go full melee after that happened.

1491
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 5: But no, I can't.

1492
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 9: I can't ever remember anything happening in practice or in game.

1493
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 9: Now guys gotten fights and went and tried to get

1494
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 9: trash cans or wrench or something.

1495
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 5: Like that tool to go beat somebody with.

1496
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: The Actually you witnessed somebody grab a wrench to try

1497
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: to attack a team.

1498
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 3: Be careful, era a bunch of plumbers if you do that.

1499
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 5: Fighting on the sidelines.

1500
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 9: And the guy went into the equipment box and grabbed

1501
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 9: a wrench out of the equipment box and was going

1502
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 9: to attack the guy before you know, other guys grabbed him.

1503
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 5: No, we had some.

1504
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 9: We had some straight out felons on our team sometimes

1505
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 9: from now and especially in Detroit and and and UH

1506
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 9: and Philly. And when Ray Rhodes was the head coach

1507
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 9: at Philly, he brought in some gangsters and some guys. Man,

1508
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 9: don't get him angry, don't get him. Man, you don't

1509
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 9: know what you're gonna do.

1510
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 3: Is this dodgeball? You can dodge the right, You can

1511
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: dodge the ball.

1512
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 5: Exactly, all right.

1513
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: I know you have some great you have some great

1514
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 2: Ray Road stories. And for those who do are listeners

1515
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 2: who might not be familiar. Head coach of the Eagles

1516
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 2: was a great defensive coordinator for many years in the NFL.

1517
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: What is one of the more team I guess that

1518
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: we can actually say on nationwide radio there, Rodney, what's

1519
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: a good Ray Road story that you can tell a

1520
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 2: Foxport audience.

1521
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 5: I don't know there is a tame one. It really isn't.

1522
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 9: He was legendary and and I was I was fortunate

1523
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 9: enough to play with him for four years in Philly.

1524
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 9: But legendary. The night before Saturday, night before Sunday game.

1525
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 9: You know, you have your little snack and then you

1526
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 9: have a quick team meeting and usually the coaches, you know,

1527
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 9: well head coach will get up and just kind of

1528
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 9: give you something to sleep on and get you ready

1529
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 9: for the next day.

1530
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 5: We all knew from.

1531
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 9: The first time Ray gave those speeches that Ray had

1532
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 9: a couple of pops before he would come into that meeting.

1533
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 9: And he would come in and we knew he was

1534
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 9: drinking some kognak and he probably was drinking like four

1535
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 9: hours before that meeting, and he come sat.

1536
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 5: Saying in you like, here comes Ray Bob.

1537
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 9: We called him Ray Bob, and he's like, get ready

1538
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 9: for this one. And it was every I wish we

1539
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 9: had cameras on our phones back then, because he would

1540
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 9: have it would have been filmed and it would have

1541
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 9: been out right now somewhere.

1542
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 5: But he We're getting ready to play Dallas.

1543
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 9: And he was in rare form and Dallas had beat

1544
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 9: us earlier in the season on.

1545
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 5: A Monday night game. And then we had him back at.

1546
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 9: The Vet, the little Dirty Vet, late or early in December,

1547
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 9: and it was freezing cold that time in Philly. But

1548
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 9: Saturday night Ray comes in Dallas had been you know,

1549
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 9: talking a lot of trash and all that kind of

1550
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 9: stuff like.

1551
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 5: They normally do.

1552
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 9: And Ray was just fed up because Ray Ray had

1553
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 9: a real dislike for Dallas during his times as a

1554
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 9: defense coordinator at San Francisco, the battles that they had

1555
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 9: back in the day with those guys, so he knew

1556
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 9: that and just couldn't stand the cowboys. So he comes

1557
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 9: in and he's like, we are taking no prisoners. You

1558
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 9: got to treat this like your life depends on it.

1559
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 9: And I'm talking about somebody coming into your home blanking

1560
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 9: your wife, blanking on your couch and then wiping with

1561
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 9: your curtains.

1562
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 3: Geez, good lord, I'd be disrespectful.

1563
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 2: I was there just a little bit, my god.

1564
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 9: In your own home while your kids watching, and he

1565
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 9: got you tied up.

1566
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 5: I can't see. He just kept going. He just kept

1567
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 5: going and going and going.

1568
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 9: And then at the end he said, now tomorrow, if

1569
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 9: you mf was, don't ball up your fist and fight,

1570
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 9: I'm gonna kick y'all ass. But it was it was

1571
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 9: that colorful on a regular basis. Every Saturday night, it

1572
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 9: was you.

1573
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 3: Guys win by twenty or what he did?

1574
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 5: Win the game?

1575
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, it was the I don't know if you

1576
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 9: guys remember it was the game where we stopped him

1577
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 9: fourth and one. Emtt Smith stop. We stopped him fourth

1578
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 9: to one, and then they ran the same play. They

1579
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 9: called a penalty and they called or they had a

1580
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 9: time out, but the play was.

1581
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 5: Run and so they got a do over and they

1582
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 5: ran the same play.

1583
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 9: We stopped him again and we ended up winning the

1584
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 9: game on a on a field.

1585
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 5: Goal after that.

1586
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 9: But but yeah, it was it was a big time,

1587
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 9: big time moment because that that helped propel us into

1588
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 9: the playoffs that year.

1589
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: Rodney, last one for you quickly here because you know

1590
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: the position you played through some injuries. Is Matthew Stafford

1591
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 3: gonna be able to get by this season with that

1592
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: back injury?

1593
01:12:59,720 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 4: Like?

1594
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 3: Is he going to be able to do what he

1595
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: needs to do for the length of the season for

1596
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 3: the Rams to get where they're trying to go.

1597
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 9: Here's the thing, it's the biggest mystery in the NFL,

1598
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 9: right And it was the biggest mystery because before training

1599
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 9: camp we didn't know he had a bad back. We

1600
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 9: thought all and then all of a sudden he's not

1601
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 9: practicing and then he's certainly not playing any games and

1602
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 9: that is the question what happens? And I mentioned earlier,

1603
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 9: you know when we started that you can't wait for

1604
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 9: that first hit, even if you're a quarterback. You want

1605
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 9: to feel that you're playing football again. And so what

1606
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,839
Speaker 9: happens after that first hit from Matthew Stafford, not necessarily

1607
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 9: a sack, but after he releases the ball and he

1608
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 9: gets hit and lands on his back or lands awkwardly.

1609
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 9: What happens then? I think we will know. We will

1610
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 9: know a lot in this first game that the Rams.

1611
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 5: Play of how he is going to hold up.

1612
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 9: Because if he is able to successfully get hit, get

1613
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 9: up and not re injure or or mess his back up,

1614
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 9: I think they're okay. But I think we're gonna get

1615
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 9: a lot of answers in this first game. Back is

1616
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 9: a crazy thing because back it affects everything, especially as

1617
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 9: a quarterback.

1618
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 5: You can't play with a bat or even a sore back.

1619
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: Oh just don't get hit the entire season, Rodney. That's

1620
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: how you prevent that. That's how you do it exactly.

1621
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: Just don't get that.

1622
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 9: I know the Rams are excited about their offensive line,

1623
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 9: but I don't tell.

1624
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 5: You is the great cowboy line of the early nineties.

1625
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: Not that Yeah, Late Newton, they walking through that door

1626
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: sixteen years sixteen in the NFL. Now a co host

1627
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: on our Los Angeles affiliate AM five seventy LA Sports

1628
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: from noon to three pm with Fred Rogan. Rodney pet

1629
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 2: thanks for once for joining us.

1630
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 4: Man.

1631
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: This has been fun. We appreciate it.

1632
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,839
Speaker 5: You got it, guys, anytime, anytime, love, you got.

1633
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,879
Speaker 3: Our guy, Rodney p from A five to seventy LA Sports.

1634
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 3: You hear him weekdays with Freddie Rogan.

1635
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: You see him stealing Baha balls file balls from Max Muncy.

1636
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: That was kind of a big deal. He went viral.

1637
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 3: He did big time viral. As if he hasn't done

1638
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: that enough. If you see him on Magic Johnson's yacht.

1639
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 3: Did you see that drone zoom out shot where Magic

1640
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 3: is on the treadmill and then you get the full

1641
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 3: picture not Sam I don't know, on the Mediterranean or something.

1642
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: It's impressive.

1643
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: Reality show star King's Court, in Queen's Court on Peacock.

1644
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 3: He's our Magic Johnson basically.

1645
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one.

1646
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,839
Speaker 3: Of the most famous people that we're friends with. Rodney Pete.

1647
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 3: Coming up next, we got to finish off our NFL

1648
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 3: six pack, including our O Troy Potential category. We'll explain

1649
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,839
Speaker 3: what that is next. It's FNA on FSR.

1650
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: Welcome FNA Cotton a little altered beast. I love it

1651
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: the FNA on FSR. Back with you guys at k

1652
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: FIG one at follow out to me is where you

1653
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: can find us on X.

1654
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 3: Coming up next hour the players we love to hate on.

1655
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 2: Huh.

1656
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: But first we got to continue our NFL six pack.

1657
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: We only got to three of them so far. Hot seat,

1658
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 3: heat check, trap game, tap beer goggles game. But now

1659
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: and we'll explain, it's our oh Troy potential category. This

1660
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: goes back to what year twenty sixteen. This is the

1661
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks and a wild card game in Minnesota against

1662
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 3: the Vikings, and Blair Walsh missed a twenty six yard

1663
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 3: field goal to win it for the Vikings, and we

1664
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: pulled the best reaction possible that went viral from this.

1665
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 3: And apparently the guy's name who's a little bit older

1666
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: because he had a cane was Troy. Here's how he

1667
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: reacted as a Vikings fan to that missfield goal by

1668
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 3: Blair Walsh.

1669
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I say, oh.

1670
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:58,879
Speaker 12: My god, he missed it. Oh my god, Oh Tris,

1671
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 12: I'm so.

1672
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 3: Sorry, and it's very memorable the life trying to console him.

1673
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,440
Speaker 3: Oh true, I'm sorry.

1674
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: It just sounds had a very sarcastic tone.

1675
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 3: Maybe she was a Seahawks fan. I don't know, but

1676
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 3: this basically means an epic fail, something very bad that

1677
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 3: could be happening. So we're calling this old Troy potential.

1678
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: What game for you has o Troy potential this weekend, Kevin,

1679
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to Green Bay with the Detroit Lions. I

1680
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 3: think this might have some old Troy potential for Detroit.

1681
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 3: New offensive coordinator John Morton for Jarrett Golf. I know

1682
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 3: he was on the staff last year, but no Ben Johnson.

1683
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 3: You can have the same offense in place, but the

1684
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 3: play guy who's calling the plays and setting you up

1685
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 3: makes a big difference.

1686
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: Frank Ragnow is now retired. Now they have Michael Parsons

1687
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: coming off the edge for the Packers, even if it

1688
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: might be in a limited role. I think this game

1689
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: has potential to be ugly for the Detroit Lions. I

1690
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: think green Bay Packers are really jazzed up, have some

1691
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: extra umphin there with Michael Parsons, and I can actually

1692
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: see green Bay winning this one. I won't say that

1693
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 2: they're going to run him off the field.

1694
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 3: But I'd say fairly all right, my Old Troy potential

1695
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 3: game is the same, but for different reasons. Here, the

1696
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers lost both games of the Lions last year.

1697
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 3: In four starts against the Lions, Jordan love Is won

1698
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: and three with six touchdowns to five picks. I'm not

1699
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: saying if they lose to the Lions it's an O

1700
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 3: Troy epic fail. But i am saying they just made

1701
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: a huge trade for Micah Parsons that is being unanimously praised.

1702
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 3: But if they got damaged goods because Micah Parsons needs

1703
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 3: a bacchiotomy and can't play as he is questionable on Sunday,

1704
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: that is concerning. He's getting epidurals like he's going into labor,

1705
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 3: so you know the pain is bad. And we all

1706
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 3: thought the back injury was a ruse. Initially, that was

1707
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 3: just him getting out of being fined in case the

1708
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: contract negotiation with the Cowboys extended into the regular season.

1709
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: Apparently it's very real now. Ultimately, I think he plays if.

1710
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 2: You're legitimate concerns about his back. They're not trading a

1711
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: couple of first round picks in our Pro Bowl defensive tackles.

1712
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: Right, and he had to get a physical But if

1713
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 3: his speed and explosiveness, which he relies on are greatly lessened,

1714
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 3: that could hurt the pack. My guess. He still has

1715
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 3: two sacks on Sunday summer exactly, and the cheeseheads are

1716
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 3: happy they gave him all that sheddar.

1717
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: Let's try to quickly get to one more before we

1718
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: take a.

1719
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 4: Break under the microscope.

1720
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: Under the microscope game or player everyone should watch closely

1721
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: this weekend. I'm going to the Bayou the Saints Breeze

1722
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: Saints taking on the Cardinals. I think Arizona a big

1723
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: time sleeper in the NFC West this year. Their defense

1724
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: and has approved every single year under Jonathan Ganyon. So

1725
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 2: I think this could be a statement game for Arizona.

1726
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 2: I think they go down there to sit to the

1727
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: Saints and put it on him pretty good.

1728
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 3: You know, my under the microscope was a little bit different.

1729
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm putting the entire Week one of the NFL season

1730
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 3: under the microscope and going back to what happened last

1731
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: season to see if there's any patterns to know if

1732
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 3: what happens in Week one actually is meaningful or not. Well,

1733
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 3: to start off last season, Kansas City beat Baltimore. Yep,

1734
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: they went on so the Super Bowl. The Ravens were

1735
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 3: all so good. Philly beat Green Bay in Week one

1736
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 3: last season. They beat them again in the wild card weekend.

1737
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: Since he lost to New England in Week one of

1738
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: last season. That was an upset and the Bengals went

1739
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 3: on to have a disappointing season. I mean, there's some

1740
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 3: real stuff that happens in Week one that can linger.

1741
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 3: I thought it would tell me when I look back

1742
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 3: on last year. It's not that meaningful. Apparently it is.

1743
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 3: So Week one matters.

1744
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: It means everything. Oh not everything, but it does mean

1745
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,839
Speaker 2: a lot. To your point, it's very important.

1746
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we.

1747
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 2: Will get to our final category in the NFL six

1748
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: pack coming up next hour. Also coming up next hour,

1749
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 2: players and other sports figures that you love to hate.

1750
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 2: It's Kevin figures, Adam Moslin on Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 3: It's FNA on Fox Football Saturday. Welcome back in He

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01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 3: is k FIG. I'm Adam Osland at follow Out of

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 3: ma is where you can find me on X He's

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 3: at KFIG one at a show as well. Coming up.

1756
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna theme things out here in this third hour,

1757
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 3: talk about some of the athletes we can't stand. Yeah, play,

1758
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 3: I got a few people that are on my mind

1759
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 3: right now.

1760
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: You're staring a deep hole into me right now. Why

1761
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: what did I do?

1762
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 3: Because I'm for the early two thousands and if we

1763
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 3: were friends back then, we might have been front of

1764
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: these because I was a Kings.

1765
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 2: Fan and you are a Lakers fan. Okay, I see

1766
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: where this is going now. It makes all the sense

1767
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: in the world. You give me the death Stay there

1768
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 2: for a half second.

1769
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to give you no. No, I kind

1770
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 3: of did.

1771
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 5: Okay.

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01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 2: Before we get to that, though, we have to finish

1773
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: the NFL six pack. We had five categories that we

1774
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: did last hour, wedged around the great Rodney Pete interview

1775
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: that we did. So let's get to our final category here, Mark,

1776
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: before we talk about athletes we love to hate.

1777
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 4: Redemption round.

1778
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the redemption round here part of the NFL

1779
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 2: six pack. The team or player looking to bounce back

1780
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: from struggling. We're gonna say last week, but seeing as

1781
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: it is week one, maybe outs back from a tough

1782
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to twenty four season there at him

1783
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: or twenty four to twenty five season, I should say.

1784
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 3: I'll give my redemption round player team member. In this case,

1785
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 3: it is a player.

1786
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1787
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't know why I think this is gonna work.

1788
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why anyone would believe in this player.

1789
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: He couldn't handle the big Apple, and it looked like

1790
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 3: his brain turned into apple sauce on some of the

1791
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 3: throws he made for the Giants. I'm talking about Daniel Jones.

1792
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the weak division, maybe it's Shane Siken's offense.

1793
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the fact he bet on himself to go

1794
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 3: somewhere and win the starting job. And while Anthony Richardson

1795
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 3: may have lost it more than Daniel Jones actually won it,

1796
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for him, just like I did with Baker

1797
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 3: Mayfield going somewhere else and succeeding, or Sam Darnold or

1798
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: Geno Smith, guys who gave the bird to their former employer.

1799
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 3: I dig the cut of their jib, and I'm hoping

1800
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 3: Danny Dimes can have a redemption arc as high as

1801
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 3: the arc is on some of his passes that sailed

1802
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 3: over receivers with the Giants. Good luck to Daniel Jones.

1803
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 2: Oh, look, he's at least more accurate than Anthony Richardson,

1804
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: so we can give him that.

1805
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 3: Is he well, yeah, he is.

1806
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately for Anthony Richardson, he is significantly more

1807
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: accurate than Anthony Richardson. And that's a problem.

1808
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 3: And Indy has the Dolphins at home on Sunday. I'm

1809
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 3: interested in that game. I want to see how he

1810
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 3: operates within that offense.

1811
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people down on Miami, you know,

1812
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 2: talking about their demises coming season, So we'll see what

1813
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: happens there.

1814
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 3: Feels like I want to zag the other way and

1815
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: say the Dolphins are going to be good now because

1816
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: the people are so down on them.

1817
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I understand what. Tarbrek's a year older,

1818
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: Tua's had his share of injury issues. They're not running

1819
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: the ball as well as they initially did when McDaniel

1820
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: force got.

1821
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: There, Like they're gonna have health issues eventually, But it's

1822
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: week one. Can't we have some hope.

1823
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 2: They've lost a lot of defensively too. That certainly doesn't help.

1824
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 3: All right, Well, who do you got here in your

1825
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: redemption round?

1826
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the guy who actually spent the

1827
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 2: last four months or the first four months last season,

1828
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: proving everyone that he was not a bust. And that's

1829
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, all right. Sam Donald on the outskirts, really

1830
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 2: of the MVP discussion for the majority of the season,

1831
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 2: But the way his season ended was a disaster. The

1832
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: last regular season game against Detroit with the division title

1833
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: on the line, he was terrible, to say the least.

1834
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: The wildcard game against the Rams, he was just as bad,

1835
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: maybe even worse actually. But now he goes to Seattle.

1836
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: They now have an offensive coordinator with NFL experience, so

1837
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: that certainly helps, is Clint Kubiak. So it's back to

1838
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: the old Shanahan tree of the zone running game, yeah,

1839
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: which Seattle was terrible at last year, and running the football.

1840
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: And I think that's part of the reason why Gino

1841
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: Smith struggled last season after having such a great year

1842
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 2: of the year before. He's one of those guys who

1843
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 2: needs a good running game behind him. So now that

1844
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 2: he's in Seattle, different offense with a young I think

1845
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: kind of like an unknown defense. They have some really

1846
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 2: good defensive talent in Seattle that a lot of people

1847
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: aren't talking about. I really think the NFC West in

1848
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: general is going to be is a really underrated division

1849
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: that a lot of p people are sleeping on. I

1850
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: talked about the Arizona Cardinals last hour feels up for grabs. Yeah,

1851
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: I think Seattle's right in there too, especially with the

1852
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: forty nine ers being so top heavy. Christian McCaffrey's already

1853
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: banged up. We haven't even played a game.

1854
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 3: Yet, calf injury.

1855
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 2: He's gonna play. McAffrey already questionable. So and the Rams

1856
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: with Matthew Stafford's back, I mean, who knows what that

1857
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: situation is going to turn into. So to your point,

1858
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 2: I think the West might be pretty wide open. But

1859
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm looking at sam Donold as a guy who's looking

1860
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: to redeem himself from the last couple of appearances he

1861
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: had at the end of last season in the final

1862
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 2: regular season game in the Wildcart Round, to prove that

1863
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: he's a better quarterback than he showed in those last

1864
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: two games. I like it.

1865
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 3: That rounds out our NFL six pack for Week one

1866
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty five NFL season. We'll be doing

1867
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 3: this week week here on FNA on FSR. Somebody who

1868
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 3: was looking for a little bit of redemption struggled in

1869
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: the Pros. Johnny Manziel, who was once said by Skip

1870
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: Bayless and I know I mentioned this before, but I

1871
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 3: will do it every time. Skip Baylist mister one point

1872
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: four said he would end up being bigger in Cleveland

1873
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 3: than Lebron James. That was his prediction for Johnny Manziel

1874
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: and I had to.

1875
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 2: Work out for him.

1876
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 3: Not well it was he was wrong.

1877
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 5: Am I wrong?

1878
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 3: But just a bit outside. Johnny Manziel ended up starting

1879
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: like fifteen games or something like that for the Browns

1880
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 3: unfortunately drug alcohol addiction issues going on. But Kevin, I

1881
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 3: guess he spoke about his time there with Cleveland.

1882
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 2: Recently he did. He was on the Nightcap podcast and

1883
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: they talked about his experience with Cleveland and if he

1884
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: has any ill will towards that organization. And here's what

1885
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: Johnny Football had to say.

1886
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 13: You know, I think I will always be looked at

1887
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 13: and viewed at because of how much hype and media

1888
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 13: and everything that was around me in the city of

1889
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 13: Cleveland expecting me to be great and that ultimately not

1890
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 13: panning out.

1891
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 5: Listen, you know I sit here today.

1892
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 13: And I go back and forth with man, Am I

1893
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 13: gonna let Cleveland off the hook?

1894
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 5: And just like let it go.

1895
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 13: Or am I gonna sit here with the hate and

1896
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 13: animosity in my heart for the rest of my life?

1897
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 5: And I finally sit here today, I'm good.

1898
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 13: I think I'm gonna be pissed at them and hate

1899
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 13: him forever.

1900
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 5: So it is what it is.

1901
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,919
Speaker 4: Man, No, no love for the Browns.

1902
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 13: I'm rooting for oh sixteen seasons every season.

1903
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: No, this reminds me. I forget exactly who he was fighting.

1904
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: But Connor McGregor after he won to fight a UFC

1905
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: match some years ago, and he says, I just want

1906
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: to make sure that I come up here and apologize

1907
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: for absolutely nothing I'm in every dayn wor than I said,

1908
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: that's basically Johnny Manzil's like, how you know what? It

1909
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: was a tough run in Cleveland, but you know what,

1910
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 2: I feel like I might have some remorse now never mind,

1911
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 2: I don't I hate him. I want to go ohen

1912
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 2: sixteen the remainder of their existence. I mean, that's next

1913
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: level pettiness, and I'm kind of here for it.

1914
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: Look it would be oh and seventeen. Now that is true.

1915
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: They've done oh and sixteen. This is next level stuff.

1916
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 3: Now this gave us an idea here to put together

1917
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 3: some of the athletes that we hold a grudge against,

1918
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 3: some of the people that we hate.

1919
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 4: I feel the conflict within you let go of your

1920
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 4: hate that.

1921
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 3: We haven't been able to let go of our hate

1922
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 3: with right. So we've compiled a list here, each of

1923
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 3: us here on F and a on FSR. Kevin, give

1924
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 3: me an athlete that you can't help but hate, even

1925
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 3: though it's been years.

1926
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 2: Maybe Carlos Correo, and this is coming from someone who's

1927
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: not even necessarily a Dodger fan, but he along with

1928
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,879
Speaker 2: Josel Tuove were the two biggest faces I guess Carlos Beltron,

1929
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: who was a coach at the time. As far as

1930
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 2: the Houston Natros scheme with the trash cans and the

1931
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: alleged buzzers and twenty seventeen that stole a World Series

1932
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: birth from the Yankees and stole a World Series championship

1933
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: from the Dodger.

1934
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 3: That's interesting you bring up the Yankees. People forget about

1935
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 3: that part of it.

1936
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: That was the buzzer Buzzer gate, with the Josel Tuve

1937
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: with the walkoff, the walk off home run, don't rip

1938
01:28:55,560 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: off my shirt apparently because he said he was self anscious,

1939
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to take his shirt off.

1940
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: I think maybe he had a nipple ring like Ryan

1941
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 3: Day and it was still a little bit tender because

1942
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 3: he just had it put in, forgot about that life.

1943
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 3: That was a little stress.

1944
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: That was different, but he was the face of it

1945
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: and was very unapologetic. You know. I know they got

1946
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: immunity from the commissioner, which they probably shouldn't have, and

1947
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 2: they say, well, they wouldn't have said anything had they

1948
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: not gotten the immunity. That whole thing's been litigated, but

1949
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 2: Carlo's career has been so openly defiant, basically almost has

1950
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 2: no remorse over what happened, and regardless of where he's been,

1951
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 2: he's continued to double down on it.

1952
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, this enjoys playing the villain.

1953
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: Sports is supposed to be like the last bastion of

1954
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 2: you know, No. One integrity and like number two. You know,

1955
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: this is where it's a meritocracy. You have people playing

1956
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: under a certain level of rules, a set of rules

1957
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 2: that you expect everyone to abide by, and when someone

1958
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 2: doesn't do that and they're caught doing it, and literally

1959
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: nothing happens because all they're playing for is a hunk

1960
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: of metal. According to Rob Manfred, a hunk of me.

1961
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 2: I know that everybody strives and works hard for through

1962
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 2: an entire offseason and one hundred and sixty two plus

1963
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: games in the postseason to get and it's just a

1964
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 2: hunk of metals. So it's not important enough to the commissioner.

1965
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 2: But it was important enough for the Houston Astros to

1966
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,520
Speaker 2: go out and cheat their way to a championship.

1967
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's not that important, then take it

1968
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:15,879
Speaker 3: away from them.

1969
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: Exactly, and they wouldn't do that. So Carlos Kreta as

1970
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: someone who will forever, I will forever root against all.

1971
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 3: Right in the same veins, so to speak, when you're

1972
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 3: talking about cheaters and maybe injecting something in this case,

1973
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 3: Ryan Braun of the Milwaukee Brewers is somebody I got

1974
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: some hate for.

1975
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 4: I feel the conflict within you.

1976
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 3: Let go of your hate, I don't think so. I'm

1977
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 3: giving all the way in. I'm not even a Dodger fan. Yep,

1978
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 3: same thing, quite the opposite. You're a San Francisco Giants fan.

1979
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: Well you didn't have to make it that clear. Oh yeah,

1980
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm far from a Dodger fan here. But even though

1981
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 3: he won the MVP over Matt Camp. That's not even

1982
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,839
Speaker 3: so much what I care about. Back in twenty eleven,

1983
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't like Ryan Braun because he's a giant d bag,

1984
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 3: and when he defended his cheating, which he was doing.

1985
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 3: But remember he won the appeal initially on a BS technicality,

1986
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 3: and he was so condescending and indignant to the media

1987
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 3: and went so far as to accuse the tester of

1988
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 3: being anti Semitic when he knew the whole time he

1989
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 3: was cheating, and eventually did get caught in twenty thirteen

1990
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 3: and admitted to cheating in twenty eleven when he won

1991
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 3: the MVP. Like, this is a bad guy. Forget testing

1992
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 3: positive for PEDS. This guy tested positive for pos. He

1993
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 3: tarnished a man's name and reputation of Dino Lorenzi. He

1994
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 3: was the tester in this case for Ryan Braun, who

1995
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 3: collected the urine sample from a guy not worth the

1996
01:31:55,479 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 3: cup used in it that produced the positive result. Braun

1997
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 3: was cheating all along. The biogenesis clinic stuff in Florida

1998
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 3: eventually caught up to him, or maybe it was just karma.

1999
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 3: But part of the reason I can't stand him is

2000
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 3: because I actually think the Milwaukee Brewers have some of

2001
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 3: the best uniforms in sports when they wear their pinstripes

2002
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 3: with the lighter blue, and I wanted to get a

2003
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 3: Brewer's hat, but I refused to do it for so

2004
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 3: long because Ryan Braun was on that team and it

2005
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 3: bothered me. I didn't want to represent them. Now I

2006
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 3: have one, now, okay, good, exactly, But it took a

2007
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:35,520
Speaker 3: long time for him to eventually get out of the sport,

2008
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 3: and I cannot get over just how much he was

2009
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 3: talking down to the media and this particular drug tester

2010
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 3: that still bothers me, still hating on Ryan Braun, not

2011
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 3: letting this go.

2012
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to the Boston Celtics now, truth

2013
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 2: be told, I grew up as a Laker fan, so

2014
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 2: I can just say the Celtics franchise as a whole

2015
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: something that I'll always hate, and that is true.

2016
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 3: F Boston. Huh.

2017
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm gonna go a little bit deeper and go

2018
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 2: to someone who many of you probably have never even

2019
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 2: heard of.

2020
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 9: You ever heard of?

2021
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 2: A guy named mL Carr.

2022
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds familiar.

2023
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know why it's familiar because he was the

2024
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 2: biggest trash talker. Maybe even more so than Larry Bird

2025
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 2: on the Boston Celtics, and he never played. If you

2026
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 2: ever saw the Celtics and Lakers highlights from back in

2027
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: the day, they're great. Even when the Pistons, if they played,

2028
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 2: you know, great playoff matchups, there's always a guy at

2029
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,480
Speaker 2: the end of the bench waving a towel, acting the fool.

2030
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: And it was a guy named mL Carr who for

2031
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: his career averaged like five points a game.

2032
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 3: Oh he was there, Mark Madson, huh basically, no, that's disrespectful,

2033
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 3: Mark Madson.

2034
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 2: Mark Manson never said anything.

2035
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,839
Speaker 3: Oh he said one thing. Kevin who dance.

2036
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,799
Speaker 2: Exactly. He would dance on stage and act a fool,

2037
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: but he would not try to get into the faces

2038
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 2: of other players and start talking trash and then all

2039
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: mL car basically was the guy that was instigated a

2040
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: fight and then tell everybody to hold him back, or

2041
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, instigated a fight between two people

2042
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 2: and then run the opposite direction. Yeah, that was him.

2043
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 2: People like that I cannot stand. Okay, he might be

2044
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 2: a stand up guy for all I know, But for

2045
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 2: the character that he played in those great Lakers Celtic

2046
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,600
Speaker 2: rivalries back in the eighties, for someone who made no

2047
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 2: impact or close to no impact on the court, He's

2048
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 2: sure as hell had a very marquee uh position in

2049
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: that rivalry, and mainly because he wouldn't shit the bleep

2050
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 2: up all. He never played the.

2051
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 3: Level of hate you have for him, and the reasoning.

2052
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm on board with this.

2053
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 4: I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate.

2054
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 2: Nothing worse.

2055
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. Why are you talking? Why are

2056
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,919
Speaker 3: you even here's the Drake line role players acting like starters.

2057
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, maybe he wrote that with an mL

2058
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: Car in mind. The problem is mL Car was barely

2059
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 2: even a role player, at least at that point in

2060
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: his career. He was a decent player early on, but

2061
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,799
Speaker 2: by then, cheez, I got.

2062
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 3: A role player for you here, all right, Rick Fox,

2063
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 3: I hate my guy, Rick Fox and former Laker. I'll

2064
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 3: tell you how I like Rick. I hate him for

2065
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 3: all the holding, the grabbing, and the greasing all his

2066
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 3: hair all over Pages Stoyakovic in the playoffs when he

2067
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 3: played for the Lakers. You know what, I love him

2068
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 3: trying to act hard with Doug Christy when he unintentionally

2069
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 3: put his hand up and hit Christy with his open

2070
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 3: palm with a little bit of a slap there.

2071
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 2: Oh, he smacked the crap out of him. It was

2072
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 2: like tart for the Chargers on Friday Night against the Chiefs.

2073
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: It was his open hands to the face.

2074
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 3: Was bad acting on his part, and he's done a

2075
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 3: lot of that in his career, by the way, off

2076
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 3: the court. Check out his IMDb profile. But he tried

2077
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 3: to act like it was unintentional, and Doug Christy wasn't

2078
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 3: having hit and he hit him with that upper cut

2079
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 3: like saggot and street fighter too, tiger upper cut on

2080
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 3: Rick Fox. I loved seeing that no one had it

2081
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 3: coming more than pretty boy Rick Fox, who has one

2082
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,959
Speaker 3: of the most punishable faces ever in the history of sports,

2083
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 3: and that face did get punched. I was happy about it.

2084
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: This was a preseason game, by the way, and Rick

2085
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 2: Fox actually chased Doug Christie down in the tunnel. I

2086
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: remember this vividly.

2087
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And maybe Doug Christie's wife got involved, maybe maybe Shaq.

2088
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 2: Was there person Rick Fox and hit him upside the head.

2089
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,759
Speaker 3: Stand by your man, what's the problem. It's a strong

2090
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 3: woman right there.

2091
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Doug Christie is still a coach, right, He is the

2092
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 2: head coach of the Kings.

2093
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 3: He ended up holding on to that interim position.

2094
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 2: Is his wife an assistant on the team, Not that

2095
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 2: I know, okay, but Rick Fox is somebody that I

2096
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 2: can't forget about when we talk about athletes that we hate. Well,

2097
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 2: you know, coming from the King's background, with the King's

2098
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 2: Laker rivalry, I certainly understand that, Brie. Do you have

2099
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: anybody a sports figure that you will always root against?

2100
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 11: You know, I will always root against Robert or for

2101
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 11: the hip check and to two thousand and seven, I can.

2102
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 3: Get on board with this.

2103
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, actually, honestly, and pretty much the whole Spurs organization.

2104
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,879
Speaker 10: You know, if we really just from.

2105
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 3: Two thousand like.

2106
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 10: Six to like two thousand and nine.

2107
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 2: Where every time the Spurs beat the Suns in the

2108
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 2: postseason is basically what you're saying.

2109
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 10: Okay, well, you're making me sound like such a homer.

2110
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 3: That's what this segment is about, right, your personal grudges.

2111
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 11: Just because like they just could never And the one

2112
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 11: time that the Suns actually beat the Spurs, they lost

2113
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:33,719
Speaker 11: the Lakers. Yeah, and that was like when Gordon Dragic

2114
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 11: went off. But then the Spurs dynasty was already kind

2115
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 11: of collapsing. So it's like every time I see Tim Duncan,

2116
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 11: every time I see Managerobili, every time I see like

2117
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 11: Robert or just any Spur. Just seeing the Spurs logo

2118
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 11: just actually just really gets under my skin.

2119
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 2: So I think the iceman George Gorfers should be taken

2120
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 2: strays from you.

2121
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 10: But the Admiral can take strays from me.

2122
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 4: Even then.

2123
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 11: That was even before my time and before it affected

2124
01:37:58,439 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 11: my team.

2125
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: That makes me feel old for you to say David

2126
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 2: Robinson was before your time, but well I.

2127
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 11: Was younger, just kind of on the same boat as you.

2128
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 11: Every time I see a jose All two bit, I

2129
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 11: just want him to like fall flat in his face

2130
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 11: and break all his teeth.

2131
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 2: It's not a fall fall from.

2132
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 10: It's not that far exactly, so just like a smash.

2133
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 3: He might be fine. It's like an ant falling afoot.

2134
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 3: He doesn't do anything to him.

2135
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 11: And then my last one is Derek Carr, who completely

2136
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 11: destroyed the scenes organization.

2137
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 3: He completely destroyed the same organization.

2138
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 2: Look, I give all the credit in the world to

2139
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 2: Mickey Lewis, who built a Super Bowl contender and all that,

2140
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 2: but he's been there for years and they have not

2141
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 2: been in that I'm just capacity for a long time,

2142
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: and he's been the head of the snake of that

2143
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 2: he put them in Salary cap Hill. That's not Derek cars.

2144
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 10: He just was a factor. It's a slight factor.

2145
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 11: And just like playing all the good guy and I'm

2146
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 11: such an angel and look at how wonderful and god

2147
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 11: fearing I am. But then he just is very slimy

2148
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 11: and creepy.

2149
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 2: And how was he slimy and creepy?

2150
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 4: Out?

2151
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 3: Wait a second, is Tim Tebow also slimy and creepy?

2152
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 10: You never said that.

2153
01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 2: Different?

2154
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 3: When was Derek Carr that guy just because he was

2155
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 3: bad on the field.

2156
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 11: No, the whole teammates didn't like him. I've had sources,

2157
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 11: I have sorcers.

2158
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 3: You're calling him a fake phony?

2159
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 11: Yes, I am literally, So those are those are just

2160
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 11: my my, my few.

2161
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 3: All right, Mark, what do you got uh thinking about it?

2162
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 3: Bill lamberert just the.

2163
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 2: Whole dayzy one? Yeah, Detroit things, well, Chicago guy there,

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Speaker 2: Mark makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So you're a big Robert Parrish fan. I'm guessing since

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Speaker 3: he uh finally let loose on Bill Lambert that one time. Yeah,

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01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 3: that was always good.

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Speaker 14: And I guess I'm thinking about l two vague just

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01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 14: because what the Astros did to baseball and they never

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Speaker 14: got you know, disciplined about it and take anything away

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Speaker 14: from him. And I'm still mad at the referee who

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Speaker 14: called for the for.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: The that was walk Coleman, wasn't it? And this in

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Speaker 2: the uh game the game who I think is now

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01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 2: part of the NFL like officiating office or whatever. During games.

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Speaker 3: We have some sound from Charles Woodson after that game,

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Speaker 3: the Raiders suck. Wait, that was not it?

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Speaker 2: That was That was Bill Romanowski by the way, another

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Speaker 2: former Raider.

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Speaker 3: Great, maybe I have that somewhere else, but but just

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01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 3: those couple guys, well Coleman, Yeah, people are never getting

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01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 3: over that. And neither is uh Seawood. So that's one

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Speaker 3: of those that I can understand, even though I'm not

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Speaker 3: a Raiders fan. When I see that picture of Tom

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01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 3: Brady and it's very clear he's not making a pass there.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, history is different. They lose that game,

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady probably gets traded somewhere else to be the starter.

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01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 2: Drew Bledze gets reinserted, because once Tom Brady wins a

2190
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, you can't go back and put somebody else

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01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 2: back in there. After you want a championship.

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Speaker 3: You know the Patriots, they had some scandals in their time,

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01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 3: and we might have to talk about a potential scandal

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01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 3: going on in southern California with the Los Angeles Clippers.

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Speaker 3: That's coming up next, along with Bree here on FNA

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Speaker 4: Well with all that, it sounds like you've got a

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Speaker 4: pretty big night planned. Huh, Fna Cotton.

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Speaker 2: Turns out we do. It is on FSR. Kevin Figures

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Speaker 2: and Adam Alton with you guys here on Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in just a couple of minutes, we will

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Speaker 2: get to one of our favorite segments here on the show,

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Speaker 2: Breeze three.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to Breeze three today, as we do every week,

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Speaker 3: Sock Kevin, we seize it out earlier. We got to

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01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 3: pay this off obviously. In the NBA, the biggest story

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01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 3: going on right now is an investigation by the league

2224
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 3: that just commenced yesterday.

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01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 2: That to be something a pretty big deal for us

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01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 2: to have to talk NBA in early September. Now, I

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01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 2: would say this is a pretty big deal.

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01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping the NFL would just totally

2229
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 3: cover the story up, but it is that big. It

2230
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 3: has gone national. I understand the reasons why Clippers being

2231
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 3: investigated for circumventing the salary cap, allegations made by Pablo Torre,

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01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 3: formerly of the Evil four Letter, on his podcast Pablo

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01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 3: finds Out or Pablo Torre finds Out put together seven

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01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 3: months work worth of investigating work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to what seven different employees of this now

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01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,640
Speaker 2: defunct company Aspiration.

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01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 3: The Clippers were working with them as they were a

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01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 3: sponsor of theirs and we're going to invest three hundred

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01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 3: million dollars over I think twenty three years. Steve Balmer

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Speaker 3: also put in money to invest in them as.

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Speaker 2: Well, fifty million dollars out of his pocket.

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01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,480
Speaker 3: It was about reducing carbon footprints and the allegation basically,

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01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 3: to summarize a eighty minute podcast, is that he put

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01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 3: in fifty million to them and Kawhi Leonard ended up.

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01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 3: At this point, people are saying getting forty eight million

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01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 3: dollars out of their company is the allegation. Based upon

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01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 3: some of the records. It started off as twenty eight

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01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 3: million dollars. They were saying he received over four years,

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01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 3: seven million per year, and then they said yesterday another

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Speaker 3: report came out.

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Speaker 2: This is from the Athletic.

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01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 3: Speculation, allegations, accusations, all the disclaimers you want to say,

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01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 3: because nothing's definitive right now.

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01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 2: While they're going off of the combination apoblo tory and

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Speaker 2: some of the information that the Athletic has dug up.

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Speaker 2: These are based on records that they have seen contracts. Now,

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01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 2: whether how accurate these are, who knows, but these are.

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01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 2: This is documentation that these parties have received.

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01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 3: And the reason they were able to get this paperwork

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01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 3: and documentation is because Aspiration went bankrupt, which made all

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01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 3: this stuff public records, and that's where people start to

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01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 3: see some of the names and signatures on some of

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01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 3: these contracts. And the issue is not so much that, Look,

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01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,759
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different sponsors for teams that also

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01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 3: sponsor a star player on that team in a separate deal.

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Speaker 3: The difference is from what we've seen from what the

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01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 3: reporting says, Kawhi Leonard wasn't promoting Aspiration, He wasn't being

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01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 3: a spokesman for them, So why was he being paid

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01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 3: this amount If he wasn't being somebody who was out

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01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 3: there shooting commercials like say Robert Downey Junior did for them,

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01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 3: or doing a retweet or something on social media. They're

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01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 3: wondering what's going on here? Why is he being paid

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01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 3: this money? And the allegation is Steve Balmer was circumveying

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01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,640
Speaker 3: the cap and that money was going to Kawhi. That

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01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 3: initially started with Steve to the company aspiration then rerouted

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Speaker 3: to the player.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that that's an unfair question to ask,

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01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 2: because no company is going to give anybody seven million

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01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 2: dollars out of the goodness of their hearts. And if

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01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 2: you listen to the insiders or the ex employees of

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01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 2: this company that spoke with Pablo Tori, who basically said, yeah,

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01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard was getting paid basically as a way to

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01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 2: circumvent the camp. That's why they did this. There. He

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01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,879
Speaker 2: was never going to he was never required to do anything.

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01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 2: We can ask him to do stuff. But this goes

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01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 2: to the Athletic because they said they got their hands

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01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 2: on the actual contract that Kawhi signed, and Kawhi had

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01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 2: the right to deny any request that the company.

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01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 3: Had based upon his personal beliefs. Correct, but there were

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01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 3: obvious outs in the contract.

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01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 2: Right, so maybe it wasn't totally fraudulent, but it's like, hey,

2292
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 2: we can as Kawhi to do X, Y and Z,

2293
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 2: and he can say no, I don't want to do

2294
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 2: any of that, and we say, okay, here's your check,

2295
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 2: which again, no company on any planet would ever do that.

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01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: The only way it would And you talked about, you know,

2297
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: the investors in this company, heavy hitters. We're talking Robert

2298
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 2: Downey Junior, who you mentioned was an investor and a spokesperson,

2299
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio and Drake These are like three like global stars.

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01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 2: If you're not a big fan of movies or music,

2301
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 2: you've heard of them. This is no disrespect ton to

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard. But if they just said, hey, Kawhi, we'll

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01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,560
Speaker 2: pay you some money just to say that you're affiliated

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01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 2: with us. Great of a basketball player as Kawhi Leonard is,

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01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 2: he ain't Lebron James or He's his name does not

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01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 2: transcend the sport that he plays in. Simply being associated

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01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 2: with the with that company, I don't think gives him

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01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 2: enough clout, So I don't I don't think it passes

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01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 2: the smell test when it comes to that.

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Speaker 3: I understand, but that is one of the possibilities at

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01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 3: least that they're using all these people that have invested

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01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 3: in the company or promoting the company, and I understand

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01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 3: wasn't doing much of that.

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01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 2: He did nothing.

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01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 3: No what we know, he's done nothing. That is though,

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01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 3: as we talk about a company that was convicted of

2317
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 3: defrauding everybody, that is something you could do to establish

2318
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 3: a relationship with a new investor, is say, hey, we

2319
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 3: got all these people on board, what say you, why

2320
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 3: don't you jump into And that could be a possible

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01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 3: reason for why they were using KWHI. But obviously this

2322
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 3: is the crux of the issue. Something is going to

2323
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 3: have to be explained here for him making that much money.

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01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 3: Tonight he was seen at the US Open, had some

2325
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 3: headphones in. Obviously has not come out and made a statement.

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01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 3: His team hasn't made a statement. But last night Steve

2327
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 3: Balmer went on the Evil four Letter with Ramona Shelburne.

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01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 3: He came across to me as credible. I know people

2329
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 3: are just gonna say, well, you're biased, you work for

2330
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 3: the Clippers, and I've been forthright about that. I've made

2331
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 3: no bones about that. So if you want to take

2332
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 3: what I say with a grain of salt, fine. I

2333
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 3: think some other people that don't have a dog in

2334
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 3: the hunt has said the same thing. It was I

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01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 3: think at least refreshing to most of Clipper nation to

2336
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 3: see if Steve Bomber come out and adamantly deny the

2337
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 3: claims of him trying to circumvent the salary cap. He

2338
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 3: was very vehement about it. He wasn't equivocating, but he

2339
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 3: also made it clear that outside of introducing Kawhi to aspiration,

2340
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 3: which is allowed after that, they had nothing to do

2341
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,600
Speaker 3: with broker good deal. That's what Steve Balmer wanted to

2342
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 3: make clear last night and the Evil four letter, and

2343
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 3: it's kind of up to you on whether or not

2344
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 3: you believe him. While the investigation by the NBA is

2345
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 3: going on.

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01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 2: Who knows if there's proof to that. And by the way,

2347
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 2: the NBA did hire the same law firm that they

2348
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 2: used to oust to Donald Sterling, which precipitated the purchase

2349
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 2: of the Clippers to Steve Balmer, and the same law

2350
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 2: firm that also investigated the Phoenix Suns which resulted in

2351
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 2: Robert Sarver having to sell the team to Matteshbia a

2352
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. So they're taking a very serious

2353
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 2: extremely as you should in this situation like this.

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01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 3: Even Steve Balmer is asked last night, how would you

2355
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 3: feel if a report like this came out from another owner,

2356
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,640
Speaker 3: and he said, I'd want it to be investigated.

2357
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 2: Now.

2358
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 3: What's interesting is a lot of people are saying from

2359
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 3: Pablo Torre's report that there's not enough hard evidence enough

2360
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 3: concrete evidence, you have to connect dots. But if you

2361
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 3: look at the NBA's by laws for this rule, circumstantial

2362
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 3: evidence is one way to prove this. The bar is

2363
01:49:55,120 --> 01:50:00,719
Speaker 3: very low, it says, maybe proven by direct or circumstance evidence,

2364
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 3: including but not limited to, evidence that a player contract

2365
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: or any term or provision thereof cannot rationally be explained. Well,

2366
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 3: explain this. The money that went to Kawhi. We don't

2367
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 3: know what he was being paid for exactly. That is

2368
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 3: the beef here in this allegation, and that's why this

2369
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 3: report and investigative journalism by Pablo Torre started.

2370
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 2: Well, here's an interesting thing too, when it comes to

2371
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 2: Kauhi's infamous uncle Dennis, who has gotten them wrapped up

2372
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 2: in controversy to begin with, When the Clippers were initially

2373
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 2: pursuing Kawhi Leonard in twenty nineteen, in the offseason, there

2374
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,719
Speaker 2: were reports about him asking for all of these extra

2375
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: benefits and private flights and all of this. The NBA

2376
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 2: did investigate it and say that nothing ever happened, that

2377
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 2: nothing came of it, but they would revisit it if

2378
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: they were given reason to revisit it. And I know

2379
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 2: that uncle Dennis was cited and by one of the

2380
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 2: former employees in Paulo Torre's podcasts saying that basically when

2381
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: they were going through their bankruptcy, Uncle Dinna was knocking

2382
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 2: on the door saying, like you o, Kawhi seven million dollars, still,

2383
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 2: where's our money? And Steve Bomber was asked by Ramona

2384
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 2: about Uncle Dennis, has he ever asked you for improper benefits?

2385
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that. Steve Bamber didn't answer the question,

2386
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 2: but it was a very political answer. It was like

2387
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 2: something to the effect of, well, he knows the rules,

2388
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 2: and we know the rules and we try to stick

2389
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: by the rules. But it was it wasn't a definitive no,

2390
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 2: Uncle Dennis has never asked us for improper benefits.

2391
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,759
Speaker 3: I believe he said something to the effect of sometimes

2392
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 3: we have to be reminded about the rules.

2393
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 9: Now.

2394
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 2: Now, maybe that's and maybe that's a way of him

2395
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 2: protecting Kawhi's camp by wording it that way.

2396
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I think what could come next is

2397
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 3: a statement from Kawhi's camp.

2398
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 2: I feel like saying nothing, even though from a like

2399
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: in a quarter of law situation, which I guess this

2400
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 2: is not necessarily that it's between the NBA and all that.

2401
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 3: It's not a law broken, it's a rule broken within

2402
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 3: a league that they can be punished for.

2403
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 2: I will say, if it was a legal situation, the

2404
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 2: best thing you could do was say nothing. I don't

2405
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 2: know if that's necessarily the best case right now. Look,

2406
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 2: the NBA is going to talk to him. Yeah, they're

2407
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 2: gonna talk to Kawhi. They're probably gonna talk to Uncle Dennis,

2408
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna talk to whoever this law firm. This is

2409
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 2: not gonna happen all overnight, by the way.

2410
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 3: But it's interesting because the All Star Games get into

2411
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 3: it them next year. I would think they want all

2412
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 3: this cleared up and a ruling to happen at some point.

2413
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 3: The other part that's interesting is Adam silver in the

2414
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 3: power dynamic with him and the owners is it's really

2415
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 3: unique because he works for the owners, he also in

2416
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 3: this case is being held responsible for possibly punishing an

2417
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 3: owner that he works for. So it could come down

2418
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 3: to a lot of people are speculating how do the

2419
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 3: other owners feel about this? How do they feel about

2420
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 3: Steve Balmer? Do they want to make sure this is

2421
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 3: a very thorough investigation or could those owners also be

2422
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 3: concerned because they might have some skeletons in their own

2423
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 3: closet and they don't want to set a press that

2424
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 3: could get them in trouble down the line for something similar.

2425
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 3: These are all the theories that people are throwing out

2426
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 3: right now.

2427
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, my guess is that the majority of the owners,

2428
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of envy that goes around. Steve

2429
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 2: Balmer is by far the richest owner in the NBA,

2430
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 2: so I'm sure there's some jealousy and sports going on

2431
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 2: along there, So it would not surprise me if the

2432
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 2: owners were fully on. By the way, this is not

2433
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 2: unprecedented anytime a commissioner takes action against an owner. Roger

2434
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 2: Goodell had to do this against the late Jim Rse

2435
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 2: suspended him for a season when he had some legal

2436
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 2: and drug issues. We know, David Stern, I mean, the

2437
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 2: big topic, or the big concern that people bring up

2438
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 2: from the past is the Joe Smith Minnesota situation that

2439
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 2: happened in two thousand. He's had no problems going after

2440
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 2: that in the past, so.

2441
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 3: Usually they had hard evidence, they had written evidence of

2442
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 3: that because there was an agent scorned in that situation,

2443
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 3: who is able to deliver the goods right right.

2444
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 2: But I would imagine that all the other owners will

2445
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 2: be on board with this investigation because this is a

2446
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: pretty big deal coming up next.

2447
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 3: No good way to segue out of it. We got

2448
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 3: a pretty big deal for you. Two on too off

2449
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 3: we're going off the NFL lines and making some guesses

2450
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 3: and some bets coming up next here on FNA on FSR.

2451
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 2: Kevin figures Adam Austin with you guys here on Fox

2452
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 2: Sports Fox Football Saturday.

2453
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 3: I should say, Adam, we're getting used to it.

2454
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 9: Uh.

2455
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 3: If you miss saying today's show, by the way, you'll

2456
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 3: want to catch the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio

2457
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts. Right after the show, today's

2458
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 3: podcast will be posted by Brewbery. Be sure to follow

2459
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,720
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2460
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 3: provide a review. Again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

2461
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 3: you get your podcasts, and you'll find today's full show

2462
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 3: posted right after we get off the air. Before that, though,

2463
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 3: let's go get a new.

2464
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 4: Time now for you don't know what you're talking about.

2465
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 4: Two on.

2466
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 2: Two of Josh signed all right, Adam. Four games in

2467
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 2: the NFL. Two lines that are on in two lines

2468
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 2: where you think the underdog actually should be favored. Okay,

2469
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: well actually win.

2470
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 3: So two on the favorite, all right? You know how

2471
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 3: there's Benny versus the Penny, and there was Petros versus

2472
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 3: the Pig. Everyone made the joke I see two pigs.

2473
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, classic a local segment that Petros Papaekas would do, yes,

2474
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: called Petros versus the Pig.

2475
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 3: I got both my casts involved. They're picking the favorites

2476
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 3: because they're not gonna pick something that says underdogs. Okay,

2477
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 3: so the two favorites. Let's see what you did there

2478
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 3: that I got Washington minus six that was picked by Shadow,

2479
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 3: I think because the momentum from last season and they're

2480
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 3: taking on the Giants. She likes the Washington Commanders minus six,

2481
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 3: which is a big number. I put two trees in

2482
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 3: front of her. I said, one of these is for

2483
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 3: the favorite, being the Bengals, who I think were minus four.

2484
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 3: One is for Washington. She picked that treat. Washington minus

2485
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 3: six is one of my picks here, although it was

2486
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 3: done by my cat Shadow. What do you got catch?

2487
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that game is my off the Giants being

2488
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 2: six point dogs to the Commanders. As I mentioned earlier

2489
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 2: in the show, I think the Giants actually play well

2490
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 2: in this game. Dave Ball's last stand to a degree

2491
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: great defensive front, and as c. J. Stroud found out,

2492
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 2: your sophomore season could be a little bit of a

2493
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 2: sophomore slump for Jaydon and Daniels. So I do think

2494
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 2: he'll form better, play better than c. J. Stroud did

2495
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 2: last year. I don't know if the Giants win this game,

2496
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 2: but I feel fairly confident, based again on the fact

2497
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 2: that both matchups the common to the combined final score

2498
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 2: eight point margin for Washington. I say the Giants cover

2499
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 2: the spread.

2500
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 3: All right, you want to give me one of your

2501
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 3: on's on the favorite, I'm gonna.

2502
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 2: Go forty nine ers, a one a half point favorite

2503
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 2: over Seattle. NFC West, like we talked about early earlier

2504
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 2: in the show, is being slept on for as many

2505
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 2: people who have crapped on the division. You realize the

2506
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 2: over under for the for Seattle is eight and a

2507
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 2: half games, eight and a half wins, same for Arizona,

2508
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: so the odds makers know how competitive this division could

2509
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: potentially be. I think this game at one and a

2510
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 2: half points can go down to one point. Is could

2511
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 2: essentially be a pick them and that's kind of how

2512
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 2: I see this. I think this game can go either way,

2513
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 2: all right.

2514
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 3: I got another on picked by my cat, Tuca. Maybe

2515
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 3: because she's named after Biaka Batuca, a former running back

2516
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 3: for the Panthers, and she hates the Saints. She's going

2517
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 3: with the favorite here in Arizona minus six on the

2518
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 3: road in New Orleans. It's a big number. It's an

2519
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 3: NFC West team, but I kind of feel like they're

2520
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 3: a sneaky team with all the turnover you see in

2521
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 3: the NFL teams going from worse to first. Theirsona Cardinals

2522
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 3: might be one of those teams. He speaking of worse,

2523
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 3: the Saints might be the worst team in the league.

2524
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 3: So can Arizona beat him by a touchdown? Beat him

2525
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 3: by seven? I think it's possible. It's a good pick

2526
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 3: by Tuca.

2527
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 8: I like it.

2528
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 2: I think they could easily beat them by seven. To

2529
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 2: be honest with you, Oh, do you got this too? Sorry, Bree, No,

2530
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't, but I agree with you on this one.

2531
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: My on now the Steelers being a three point favorite

2532
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 2: over the Jets, there's the revenge factor for both quarterbacks. Obviously,

2533
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 2: could be some for the Steeler offense with Aaron Rodgers

2534
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 2: getting adjusted there. So I do think this is right

2535
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 2: about where it should be. The Pittsburgh Steelers better than

2536
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 2: the New York Jets, but with some growing pains. I

2537
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 2: think on paper you would say the Steelers should probably

2538
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 2: win by maybe even a touchdown. But I think three

2539
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 2: point three point spread makes sense to me.

2540
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 3: All right, So I got two offs here off of

2541
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 3: the favorite going to the underdog. Can't believe I'm doing this.

2542
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers plus four in Jacksonville against the Jaguars doing it.

2543
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 3: My Cats didn't pick this one. I did, Kevin, and

2544
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 3: I don't know why because I don't have much faith

2545
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 3: in Bryce Young. But it just feels like plus four,

2546
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 3: they're getting four, they can lose by a field goal,

2547
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 3: and I can win this bet. I like Carolina plus

2548
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 3: four in Jacksonville. You going the other way, just don't

2549
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 3: put it. Just don't put any money down on that one,

2550
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 3: Adam Place. I mean, I would never bet on my team.

2551
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 3: I got a I would bet on Jacksonville, just a

2552
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 3: hedge my off.

2553
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 2: My final off is the Browns being five and a

2554
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 2: half point dogs to the Cincinnati Bengals. I don't think

2555
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 2: they win this game, per se, but similar to the Giants.

2556
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 2: I think they have some real fight in them and

2557
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 2: something to prove. Joe Flacco at the ripe age of

2558
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 2: what forty one, I believe this seems not old enough

2559
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 2: for him. He's been around for a while. The over

2560
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 2: under for passing yards in this game, according to bet

2561
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 2: MGM two hundred and forty four yards. I'm taking the

2562
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 2: over against that Bengals defense. I think Joe Flacco's got

2563
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 2: something for him. I think he'll be measurably better. I

2564
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 2: don't think that the Browns are good at all, but again,

2565
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,919
Speaker 2: tough divisional game. We've talked about how the Bengals struggle

2566
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 2: in opening weekends in this under this regime, despite the

2567
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 2: fact that they have Joe Burrow and a bunch of

2568
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 2: great wide receivers. I think this game has wild shootout

2569
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 2: written all over for me. So the over under total

2570
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 2: is forty seven and a half. I think they easily

2571
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 2: eclipse fifty.

2572
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 3: So wait a second, you got the points and the over.

2573
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I got the points and the over. I think

2574
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 2: the Browns keep this close, probably lose by a field goal,

2575
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 2: but five and a half is rich for me for

2576
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: that Bengals defense against Cleveland in the opening week, I

2577
01:59:58,240 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 2: guarantee it all right.

2578
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 3: Final my off, I'm taking a dog here Detroit getting

2579
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 3: two points on the road against the Packers. Now, I

2580
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 3: may have Green Bay going to the Super Bowl and

2581
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 3: winning it this year. I think I picked them here

2582
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 3: at Fox Sports. I got them beating the Buffalo Bills.

2583
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 3: I like the Micah Parsons move for them, solidifies their defense.

2584
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 3: I still feel like the Lions can win this game though,

2585
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 3: or at least just only lose by one. They beat

2586
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 3: the Packers both times last season. They were the number

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Speaker 3: one seed in the NFC. I know they sd the

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Speaker 3: bed in the playoffs, but it's week one. They got

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Speaker 3: a history of beating Green Bay. I like the Lions

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Speaker 3: plus two on.

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Speaker 2: The road beautiful and that is two on the inaugural

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Speaker 2: two on and two off here on F and A

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Speaker 2: on FSR. Mark, thank you so much, Thanks Debrie, Thanks

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Speaker 2: to you guys for listening to us. Much appreciated. Kevin Figures,

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Speaker 2: Adam Auslin back with you next weekend. Coming up next

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Speaker 2: on FSR, The Fellas