WEBVTT - Avoiding the Trap of Planned Obsolescence #266

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's and today we're discussing avoiding the trap of planned

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<v Speaker 1>obsolescence played obs lescens That's one of those terms that

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<v Speaker 1>were here thrown around a good bit, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those terms that we are familiar with, but

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<v Speaker 1>we may not necessarily know exactly what it means. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna talk about how it impacts our money,

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<v Speaker 1>how it affects the amount of money that we spend

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<v Speaker 1>in particular. And the thing is too, we're also gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to why it's not necessarily an all bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like a lot of times you hear that

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<v Speaker 1>planned obs lust since it's sort of this evil conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>that companies implement in order to fleece us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to get more money out of our pockets. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not all bad. So that's what we're gonna discuss man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you know, there is planned obsolescens by certain

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers or certain industries. And at the same time, there's

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<v Speaker 1>ways in which we consider the things that we own

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<v Speaker 1>to be functionally oppositely. So we're gonna tackle that as

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<v Speaker 1>well in the show today. But Matt, before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. You and I were celebrating a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>today because we both paid off a big debt that

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<v Speaker 1>we had in our lives. It's gone out of our

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<v Speaker 1>lives now. You and I both have paid off some

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<v Speaker 1>big chunks of debts. So, Kate and I we've been

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<v Speaker 1>working really hard over the past a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half two years to pay off the helock that we

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<v Speaker 1>took out on our house to help fund the renovation

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<v Speaker 1>that we that we did here at the house. And you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you recently paid off a full mortgage on one of

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<v Speaker 1>your investment properties that you've been working really hard at. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So it was one of the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not do a refin on. I refined a

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<v Speaker 1>couple recently, and I realized, Man, there's this this one

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<v Speaker 1>property I have, it's at above market interest rate. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to refinance it and pay the closing costs

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<v Speaker 1>in order to rEFInd. It's too low of a balance,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm just ready to be done with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had enough in my savings where I felt

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable paying that sucker off and also having enough to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to have that minimum six months right of

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<v Speaker 1>living expenses set aside. So yeah, like, man, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they weigh up the shoulders to have one mortgage down.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's like four to go. I guess yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think the bigger question that folks are probably

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<v Speaker 1>been asking is like, what are you doing paying off

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<v Speaker 1>mortgages that have pretty low interest rates? And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll say, like I'll I will readily admit that

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<v Speaker 1>the HELO that we paid off, man, it is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at three and a quarter percent. That's really low. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the number nerds out there are thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>bad move, Matt and Joel, you guys both should have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, been taking that money and investing it instead

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<v Speaker 1>putting it in the market. But the fact is, man, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an instance I know for us where it's

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<v Speaker 1>not all about the numbers. Over the years, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>found myself varying from the camp that's only looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, that's only looking at interest rates, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am considering just the emotional and the mental impacts uh

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<v Speaker 1>that paying off you know alone like that can have.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, the the stage of life that

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<v Speaker 1>we are in for sure is one of simplifying, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to find ways to remove things from our

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<v Speaker 1>minds that take up space and clutter our minds basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and so for us, this was definitely one of the

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<v Speaker 1>ways to do that, because, yeah, it's not all about

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. There's certainly some power behind feeling free mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>This is sort of an experiment to see how we

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<v Speaker 1>respond and how it feels to eliminate some of this debt,

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<v Speaker 1>even though by the numbers that may not necessarily make

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<v Speaker 1>the most sense. Yeah, I think to Matt, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about being a little bit conservative in one area of

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<v Speaker 1>your life that can allow you to be more aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>in another area of your life. And so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>paying off this mortgage allows me to be even more

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<v Speaker 1>confident with my stock allocation, you know, in my investing

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<v Speaker 1>pairple It's like, if I'm a little conservative over here,

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<v Speaker 1>I can make sure that I'm never forced to sell stocks,

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm always able to maintain that aggressive allocation. And

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<v Speaker 1>so for yeah, me and my family, it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the right move for us to make. And again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, is it the best move overall for the

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<v Speaker 1>coming decades, that's the question we asked ourselves. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, paying off a debt is I think

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<v Speaker 1>almost never a bad idea as long you can continue

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<v Speaker 1>to to invest and say for the future. Um, paying

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<v Speaker 1>off debt is a good move for people, and we

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<v Speaker 1>should all be encouraged, I think, to to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the debts that we have in our lives, take them

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more seriously, and work a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>harder to get rid of them. So yeah, congrats to you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, Thank you, and congrats as well to you buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks man. I almost feel that we should have some

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<v Speaker 1>champagne this episode instead of or not, maybe champagne, but

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<v Speaker 1>like a nicer big bottle with a Cajun cork. They

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<v Speaker 1>do make something called the Champagne of Beers. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about that? Sat If they made a

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<v Speaker 1>seven fifty bottle of the Champagne of Beers, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that would feel appropriate. But no, this episode, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I we are enjoying a beer called Juicy I p

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<v Speaker 1>a uh and this is by Squatters Craft Beers. Big

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to Sam there at the brewery for sending this

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<v Speaker 1>one our way. I'm looking forward to enjoying this one

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<v Speaker 1>with you, buddy, and we will yeah share our thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this beer at the end of the episode. Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Matt, let's get to the topic at hand now.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking about avoiding the trap of planned obsolescence.

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<v Speaker 1>And but I think we've all heard a time or

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<v Speaker 1>two one of our grandparents maybe exclaim they don't make

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<v Speaker 1>it like they used to. And I, man, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like the older I get, I think I've been guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of saying something like that. Speaking of dad jokes, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the beer we did have recently? Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's the typical dadline. As I'm growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>getting Yeah, I say stuff like that now and my

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<v Speaker 1>kids notice. But I think planned obsolescence is a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason that people say that. It certainly feels

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<v Speaker 1>at times that lots of items don't last as long

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<v Speaker 1>as they used to. And I think it can be

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating for all of us to purchase something with hard

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<v Speaker 1>earned money and then have to replace it before it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's a lifespan is up just because it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't made well. Planned obsolescence. For me, it took a

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<v Speaker 1>massive leap onto my radar with the iPhone battery scandal

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<v Speaker 1>just a few years ago. Battery gate. Do they call

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<v Speaker 1>it that? They call everything on a gate? Why is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I don't. I don't know Watergate, but like, was

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<v Speaker 1>it because the hotel was the hotel's name. Hotels they

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<v Speaker 1>just add gate to the end of their gate to everything,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's a scandal, exactly beer gate.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what that would involve. But in seventeen, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>actually admitted to slowing down older iPhones, which was really

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating to people because it felt like they had noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that for years, like, man, why is my iPhone so

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<v Speaker 1>sluggish after just owning it for a year or two? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they were basically forced to massively reduce the

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<v Speaker 1>price of a battery upgrade in order to make customers

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<v Speaker 1>whole to provide them with a fresh battery so that

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<v Speaker 1>their older phone could continue to work. Um, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of when playing obsilection. So I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>red lights were the red lights were blinking, and I

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<v Speaker 1>started to like think about it a lot more in

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<v Speaker 1>the past few years since then. Yeah, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>even reports last year that that some people were experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>issues with even you know, just newer iPhones right after

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<v Speaker 1>the latest model was announced. I haven't seen any like

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<v Speaker 1>verified reports of that, and so I might kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just chalk that up to kind of conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theory. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that man like, you know, subconsciously, like we consumers,

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<v Speaker 1>might perceive our current products as inferior once there is

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<v Speaker 1>something kind of new and shining on the scene. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there certainly are instances where, you know, it's the products

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<v Speaker 1>where it seems that they're designed to fail after a

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<v Speaker 1>certain period of time or maybe like after a certain

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<v Speaker 1>number of uses. But it's also important to consider whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not this obsolescent is due to our own habits

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<v Speaker 1>of consumption, you know, and in fact, like evidence points

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<v Speaker 1>to items like cars and TV is actually being built

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<v Speaker 1>to last even longer these days than they used to.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think we can feel that planned obsolescence

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<v Speaker 1>is this thing that's kind of out to get us

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<v Speaker 1>and out to to steal our money essentially, But in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cases, I think sometimes that perception is

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<v Speaker 1>only occurring within our own minds. Yeah, you and I

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<v Speaker 1>we actually talked recently about the failure rate of televisions

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<v Speaker 1>these days. It's like three or something like that, And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was in our insurance episode, we're basically

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<v Speaker 1>telling people to forego getting the extended warranty on a

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<v Speaker 1>TV because they're so well made. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's easy to to see the negative point out

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<v Speaker 1>the bad, but we don't necessarily take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>what's gotten better. And yeah, a lot of items that

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<v Speaker 1>we use in our everyday lives have gotten better. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest, most obvious reason math that you and I

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<v Speaker 1>hate planned obsolescence, though, is due to the costs that

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<v Speaker 1>we incur when something does break, when it stops working

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<v Speaker 1>or it's no longer effective. And there's also the environmental impact.

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes we develop a throw a mentality, which

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<v Speaker 1>leads to increased waste, more items in the landfill, and ultimately, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it accelerates global warming. And the planned obsolescence of products

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<v Speaker 1>like lightbulbs, smartphones, or even just cheaply made furniture can

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<v Speaker 1>be annoying and frustrating. It certainly seems like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we buy these days just aren't meant to

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<v Speaker 1>last very long, and that means shelling more money out

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<v Speaker 1>in the future for replacement. Yeah, most definitely, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And while some planned obsolescens might feel a bit nefarious, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some positives that are a results of it's

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to make sure to cover those two.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are certain luxuries and creature comforts that

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<v Speaker 1>united that we get to enjoy as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>the effects of planned obsolescence. You know, for instance, going

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<v Speaker 1>back to when light bulbs, when they were first introduced

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<v Speaker 1>the filament, it was actually made with carbon and so

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<v Speaker 1>these light bulbs were much more expensive to produce. But

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<v Speaker 1>due to the demand of the masses, you know, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have electric lights in their homes. And because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, that was a product that had a huge

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<v Speaker 1>barrier to entry and a lot of people weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, enjoy that product. So that's a simple

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<v Speaker 1>example where reducing the quality also brought down the cost,

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<v Speaker 1>which then made it much more accessible to everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>not just not just the rich. Yeah, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I didn't know that, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating and it is an example of how planned obsolescence

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily a conspiracy theory. Sometimes it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>functional necessity. And there's some other upsides as well. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking about all the jobs that come about as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of producing goods that aren't meant to ask forever, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and another positive is that progress is made because items

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<v Speaker 1>eventually wear out and need to be replaced. So while

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode will do our best to help you

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the traffic planned obsolescency, it is important to admit

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<v Speaker 1>that it also does play a role in the innovation

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<v Speaker 1>and there are other side effects, positive effects of planned

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<v Speaker 1>obsolescence in our lives. Yeah, and this progress in this innovation,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a good thing, you know, Like nobody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to argue with the fact that we pretty much all

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<v Speaker 1>have airbags in our cars now. But what that means though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, that progress it comes at the

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<v Speaker 1>expense of these older vehicles that don't have those features, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's not that those old items or old

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<v Speaker 1>products no longer work, it's just that, well, they just

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<v Speaker 1>don't happen to have the you know, the latest features

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of individuals are wanting in specifically in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, in their cars today, you know, specifically to

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<v Speaker 1>keep us safe exactly. But plan obsolescence it's not always

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing, and it can affect us negatively. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna focus on avoiding products with a shorter

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<v Speaker 1>life cycle in order to save yourself some money. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if we update our our gadgets every single year, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's gonna cost us. Or if we we purchase

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<v Speaker 1>items that are more likely to break or wear out

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<v Speaker 1>in a few years and instead of maybe a decade

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<v Speaker 1>or longer, it will mean spending more, along with a

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<v Speaker 1>rising level of frustration. And so after the break, let's

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<v Speaker 1>detail a few areas in addition to handheld electronics where

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<v Speaker 1>plan obsolescence has been frustrating Lee in Vogue for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a while now, and then we'll also discuss how we

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<v Speaker 1>can take a different route. We'll get to that right

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<v Speaker 1>after this. All right, we're back from the break, And Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the example you just gave up the light bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that clicks in my mind in like

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<v Speaker 1>in a really awesome ways, like a light bulb went

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<v Speaker 1>off in my head. When if you want to really

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<v Speaker 1>expensive nice lightbel that costs I don't know, fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, like the one dollar one. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>into that. Well, you remember too when elid bulbs first

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<v Speaker 1>hit the market and they were like what twelve fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per bulb, and it was like so expensive to

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<v Speaker 1>replace them. But I'd love too how the more manufacturers

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<v Speaker 1>were producing these bulbs that the costs have come down.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get great LED bulbs for a dollar a

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<v Speaker 1>bulb now, Um, they're they're just so easy and cheap

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<v Speaker 1>to replace. But let's give a couple examples of places

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<v Speaker 1>where planned obsolescence wears a Tuckley had in a major way.

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<v Speaker 1>And Matt first example is textbooks. It's all of our

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<v Speaker 1>recent college grads out there. They're they're thinking, yes, text books,

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<v Speaker 1>they're terrible. They cost me a lot of money every semester,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're this classic example I think of planned obsolescence.

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<v Speaker 1>School systems pay an outrageous amount for textbooks every year

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<v Speaker 1>for their kids, and college students have to budget hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>and hundred of dollars each semester just for books for

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<v Speaker 1>their classes. And so I think there are ways to

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<v Speaker 1>combat a couple of these these major areas where we

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<v Speaker 1>see planned obsolescence. So instead, when we're talking about textbooks,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe check with your professor to see if a previous

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<v Speaker 1>edition still works. Oftentimes that previous edition costs a fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of the price of the newest one because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is using now. Or share with a friend. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>that can work if you're going through a class together,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes Matt the teacher, the professor doesn't even use

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<v Speaker 1>the textbook. It's it's listed as something you need to buy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get the class and they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really do the textbook, which just lecture based,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're like, crap, did I spend a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>eighty dollars on that book now? Or you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it like twice since? Right? Pointless exactly. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>even rent textbooks these days via sites like Amazon and

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<v Speaker 1>cheg right that prevents that loss of a new edition

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<v Speaker 1>does come along for the next semester, making that book

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<v Speaker 1>that you purchased now worthless. So renting a textbook instead

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<v Speaker 1>of buying it makes a whole lot of sense for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Yeah, and depending if you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>are in an English or like a literature class too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're like a lot of the classic books that

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<v Speaker 1>college students are assigned to read sometimes can be found

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<v Speaker 1>online for free right there, open licensed and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>two that you can go to a site like open

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<v Speaker 1>stacks or Project Gutenberg and you can check and see

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<v Speaker 1>if a book that you that you need for a

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<v Speaker 1>certain course can be found online for free, uh in

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<v Speaker 1>a digital format, which is a really nice way to

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<v Speaker 1>to save some money as well. And so Jill, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of textbooks, fast fashion like that is another textbook

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<v Speaker 1>example of planned obsolescence. Beautiful pod, we gotta embrace those

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<v Speaker 1>dad jokes. A new wardrob bottom that maybe you purchased recently,

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<v Speaker 1>it likely wasn't made to look cool for very long,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or even to last until spring, because of

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<v Speaker 1>how cheaply it was made. In fact, there are reports

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<v Speaker 1>of how H and M how they can turn out

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<v Speaker 1>a new style from drawing board to the stores in

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<v Speaker 1>just two weeks, man, And so that means, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's cool new threads might be out of style after

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<v Speaker 1>you even wear them once. And so we would recommend

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<v Speaker 1>for folks in this case to avoid fast fashion in

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<v Speaker 1>the pursuit of well made, staple items that stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the test of time, you know, instead of fashion like

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<v Speaker 1>work to develop your own personal style that doesn't change

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<v Speaker 1>with time. I think my wife wishes mine with change

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<v Speaker 1>with time maybe, but it's not. It's here forever. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's here forever, and it's affordable exactly. No. It is funny, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about some of the shirts that I own

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<v Speaker 1>that I've had the longest. Literally, some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years old because I bought them fifteen years ago

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<v Speaker 1>in the third Store and some old man was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>them for thirty years before that. And those are some

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite shirts still. And when I pop a

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<v Speaker 1>button or or uh, you know, get a hole in it,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me so sad because it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>match a fifty year old button. Exactly. It'll make them.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll make them like they used to, Joel. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>dig it. You did. Well. Yeah. Another area mat we're

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<v Speaker 1>playing obsolescence definitely weird exactly, head is in ink cartridges

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<v Speaker 1>for printers. That is in large part because these printers

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<v Speaker 1>were created to waste ink, and printer manufacturers sell printers

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty or thirty bucks because they're not hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>make money on the printer. They're planning on making money

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<v Speaker 1>every time you have to replace the inc and some

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers are working to change that though, they're working to

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<v Speaker 1>create printers that that don't function with this planned obsolescens mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>So look to those printers instead of getting the cheapest

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<v Speaker 1>printer you can, because that one's actually gonna cost you

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<v Speaker 1>more over the time that you own it. Brother has

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<v Speaker 1>an investment printer and Epson has an Eco tank. Both

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<v Speaker 1>have opted to change things up in the way they

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<v Speaker 1>in their approach. The Eco tank implemented refillable cartridges so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to replace them for a long, long,

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Filling up that ink instead of constantly replacing

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<v Speaker 1>the cartridges is going to save you just a massive

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money, and it's gonna reduce waste at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. Chucking those used cartridges just in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the trash can. Yeah, and we all know that there

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<v Speaker 1>are very few things that that are more inconvenient than

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<v Speaker 1>running out of ink, you know, when you're interesting trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get some printed out before dashing out the door. Truth.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So those are some of the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>we see planned obsolescence in our lives, right, cell phones

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<v Speaker 1>and other personal technology may they are also an example

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<v Speaker 1>that you know that comes to mind where planned obsolescence

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be working on a predictable you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>your schedule, where folks feel the need to replace the

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<v Speaker 1>items costing them tons of money. But there are in

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<v Speaker 1>fact ways to make your technology last longer. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna talk about now, So when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to our personal electronics, Uh, let's talk about replacing batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we touched on this at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. And it's not as you know, easy to

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<v Speaker 1>d l why this as it was maybe in the

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<v Speaker 1>early days of cell phones, right in the early days

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, the droid phones in particular. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my first EVO just like pop it out, popping

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<v Speaker 1>the news exactly. That's super easy. They used to be

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<v Speaker 1>so easily removed in many of those models, but the

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<v Speaker 1>battery is a likely culprit and white people tend to

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<v Speaker 1>toss out an older laptop or an older phone. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so instead we would recommend for folks to to

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<v Speaker 1>look to replace it. So whether that means taking your

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone maybe to an Apple store for replacement, or ordering

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<v Speaker 1>a replacement battery for your laptop, and those are are

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<v Speaker 1>typically easier to install. But you can easily get twice

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<v Speaker 1>as much life out of a device with that one

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<v Speaker 1>simple move. You know. A lot of the experts say that,

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<v Speaker 1>like on your phone, you can check, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>battery health and once it gets down to like around

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<v Speaker 1>six or less, you know, you're like you're You're device

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to be functioning at the level that

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be in order to probably keep you happy,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that would definitely be a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>get that battery replaced. Yeah. Another way to to make

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<v Speaker 1>your tech last longer is to clean your gadgets and

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<v Speaker 1>your appliances, right, just toss them in the washer with

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<v Speaker 1>your pants. That's what I do with my phone. I

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<v Speaker 1>tossed in the dishwasher, good to go, super clean, high

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<v Speaker 1>temperature washed. It really doesn't affect it. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>to put a disclaimer after that just in case one

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners actually does that. Now we don't, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So. One of the reasons things break down oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>is due to a build up of dirt and grime

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<v Speaker 1>and those canned air salt cans or even like a

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<v Speaker 1>sewing needle, depending on on you know, what's messed up

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<v Speaker 1>with your phone or what's getting grimy. They can help

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<v Speaker 1>you blow out or dig out some of the grime

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<v Speaker 1>and nastiness and funk that's on a cell phone or

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<v Speaker 1>laptop or or a desktop computer, and desktop computers can

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<v Speaker 1>even be opened up once a year to blow out

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<v Speaker 1>the fan household appliances to write your fridge will will

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<v Speaker 1>last longer and perform better if you vacuum the coils

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<v Speaker 1>every year. There are all these ways that you can

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<v Speaker 1>take care of the things that you have, keep them clean,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll they'll last longer, they'll they'll perform better

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<v Speaker 1>for you, and so you'll be more app to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it around in your life and not ditch it for

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<v Speaker 1>the next model, which is gonna end up costing you money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a laptop or desktop computer that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it's getting ready to take off, like it's an airplane,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to to maybe open more than one

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<v Speaker 1>application at a time, like there's a good chance that

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<v Speaker 1>it's really dirty, and and you know, and the fans

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<v Speaker 1>having to work overtime in order to to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>processor cool. That's just how it works. And another fact,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have too many apps or or too many

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<v Speaker 1>old files on your computer, it's gonna slow down the

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<v Speaker 1>performance of that device, you know. So we're gonna recommend

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<v Speaker 1>for you to delete unused data, back up your your

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<v Speaker 1>videos and photos with something like you know, Google Photos,

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<v Speaker 1>where you know you can have fifteen gigs of free storage,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can even get a separate hard drive which

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<v Speaker 1>are really affordable these days, or just something similar in

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<v Speaker 1>order to avoid having tons of those files stored locally,

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<v Speaker 1>which will slow down your device. You can even on

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone. You can go to iPhone storage and it

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<v Speaker 1>lists out the different apps on your phone that use

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<v Speaker 1>the most storage. Right, And so you might be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>to see that text messages, your messaging app uses over

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<v Speaker 1>ten gigs worth of of storage. And it's because of

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<v Speaker 1>all those gifts and a those pictures you're sending back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth to your friends. And if you don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about those pictures anymore, well that's something you can easily

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<v Speaker 1>delete from your phone and free up a lot of space. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In another way to extend the life of your gadget

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to get a new one is

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<v Speaker 1>to protect it. And this is an obvious move, but

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<v Speaker 1>most people should have a phone case. The more we drop, crack,

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<v Speaker 1>or completely shatter our phone screen without having a decent case.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you, Matt, the less likely that the

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<v Speaker 1>phone will last for us. And I actually do not

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<v Speaker 1>take my own advice on this one. I do not

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<v Speaker 1>have a case on my phone, but I also handle

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<v Speaker 1>it with care and I purchased cheaper phones so that

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<v Speaker 1>if something did accidentally happen, I wouldn't be out nearly

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<v Speaker 1>as much money. If I had iPhone, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>a case on it. But but yeah, that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people, especially if you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>the nicest latest gadget, protecting it so that it will

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<v Speaker 1>have a long life is crucial, especially considering how much

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things cost these days. Yeah, that did

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you that Kay got her new iPhone? Sc

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nice? How she like it? She's digging it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's a nicer phone. It's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>nicest phone she's ever owned, and which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't also very nice. It's kind of like their entry

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.879
<v Speaker 1>level phone. But she invested in one of those you know,

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<v Speaker 1>solid otter boxes and it's like bulletproof. Nice. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually, especially with kids, you almost like need that

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<v Speaker 1>because they will bite it and they will lick it

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<v Speaker 1>and they will drop it on the ground. Something else

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<v Speaker 1>so I learned is that I used to always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of make fun of the screen protectors because I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really care if I get a light scratch

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone, Like what I want to not have happen,

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<v Speaker 1>is it's shatter or crack, you know. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading up on them, and one of the arguments for

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>those screen protectors is the fact that by avoiding those

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.440
<v Speaker 1>really light scratches that actually keeps your phone from cracking

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 1>when you do drop your phone. And so think of

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>each one of those little scratch marks. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like a score, you know, like when you're scoring something

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<v Speaker 1>and you're getting when you're getting ready to break it

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<v Speaker 1>or to tear it. The more of the stare, the

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.439
<v Speaker 1>more likely you're gonna break it, exactly. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>never really thought about that. Maybe it seems obvious to

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<v Speaker 1>you or maybe to some of our listeners out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I said it, It sounds obvious, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have known that. Yeah, I used to always think it. Well,

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't really like, why do you put a screen

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<v Speaker 1>protector on there. It doesn't make any sense. If you

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<v Speaker 1>end up dropping your phone, it's gonna shatter. I don't

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.679
<v Speaker 1>care if it gets the fine scratch. I don't want

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it to shatter, but the fine scratches can lead to

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the shattering. And so so yeah, store that one away

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.440
<v Speaker 1>for the next time you do get a new phone.

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>It's good to know. And Matt, I know there's people

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<v Speaker 1>out there who do want to upgrade their device. I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked recently about the fact that I'm really still leaning

0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 1>towards potentially getting the Pixel four as still on the

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.159
<v Speaker 1>for a train. Yeah, man, thinking about it, thinking about it.

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 1>And and Kate obviously she just upgraded, got a new phone.

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.800
<v Speaker 1>But the important thing to do if you are ready

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<v Speaker 1>to upgrade to something else is to know that one

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>person's trash is another person's treasure. So in order to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the trap of planned obsolescence in that case, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to sell your old item, your your old piece

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of electronics for for as much as you can get

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.399
<v Speaker 1>from it. You could also hand it down to somebody

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 1>else who who's in need, right, But but selling for

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.199
<v Speaker 1>top dollar means that you're gonna want to avoid a

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>trade in with your service provider. Look to selling independently instead.

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<v Speaker 1>That way, the circle of life continues. That the vice

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go into the trash, somebody ends up using it

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<v Speaker 1>and they get joy out of it and U sound

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<v Speaker 1>of it too. I'm just picturing the lion king in

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the circle of life as someone's like handing like the

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>cell phone over to the monkey and he holds it up,

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like some moving rock move after handing his

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 1>his older pixel model down to Simba. So yeah, definitely

0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 1>look to sell it yourself, right, like you don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>want to just hand it over to your your cell carrier.

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<v Speaker 1>Look to be a platforms that we all know like eBay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get a Facebook marketplace. Gazelle is also another

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 1>place where you can sell your old device and also

0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to check out sell sell dot com but that's spelled

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<v Speaker 1>s e L L C e l L dot com, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can go there and you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>quick idea of what it might be worth, what your

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<v Speaker 1>phone might be worth, and who is willing to pay

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you the most. I entered the information from my phone

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and I found out it's even still with all the

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 1>cracks and everything is still worth between twenty and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven dollars. But as I was taggling between the different

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>levels of condition, you know, you got like good, fair, bad,

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<v Speaker 1>or I think like the last one was like defective

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Trash. Yeah, I'm like, well what

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you near effective fear trash because like it's not trash,

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.919
<v Speaker 1>it still works, but like the screen is broken in

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>all the places and so, but but that can be refurbished.

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a great thing about selling some of those sites

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>as those phones to get referbished, they get a new life,

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>they get resold to somebody after they've been looked over,

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and someone else can can have a phone that they

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<v Speaker 1>get for I don't know, maybe seventy or eighty dollars

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that is set to last for another two years. So yeah,

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>don't junk it and actually get your money's worth out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Mine, I looked it up, was worth seventeen dollars.

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have a crack screen, but it's a really

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>old phone. Um, and I really thought it was worth

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>probably zero. But to know that I could actually get

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 1>something out of it better than nothing, yeah, I was like,

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's not too bad. Yeah. What's so cool

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>about that site is that, you know, you enter in

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:41.959
<v Speaker 1>the information and it pulls up all these other sites

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and they show what the average prices that they're willing

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to pay. And so that's that's how you're able to

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>easily go to this one place and get the best,

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the best estimate for your device. Love an

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:52.640
<v Speaker 1>aggregator like that, So bringing them all together, all right, Matt,

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>We've got more to get to on playing adopts a lescens,

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.719
<v Speaker 1>including the most important ways you can fight back in

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<v Speaker 1>a world that's deep in planned obsolescence, and we'll get

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to to some of those tips right after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>Al r Joe, We're back to the break and we're

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about planned obso lescens and specifically planing ops lessons,

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>how it costs us a lot of money. But we're

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>not just gonna take it, you know, We're not just

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna roll over. We're going to fight back against this

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>planned obsolescens. We're gonna throw Mike Tyson uvercut punch to it.

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Man. Did you ever play Mike Tyson's

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Punch Up back on the original Nintendo? Yeah, for sure,

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 1>that's a great game. We've recently pulled out what's that.

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>What's the little mini Nintendo that you plug up that's

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>got all into games built into it and you plug

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it up. Yeah, it's like the modern version of the

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>old school Nintendo. Yeah right, and it's got like fifty

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>games built into it, you know, but it's still got

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the remote. We recently busted that out and the girls

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>have been playing Balloon Fight. It's so much fun. Yeah,

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I got one for Christmas, Slasher, but I think I'm

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>only played it twice. Like, I don't know, I just

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.479
<v Speaker 1>don't play video games very much, but it's fun when

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I do. It's good for like a rainy day. And wait, wait,

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>yeah it was raining the other Saturday and kind of

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>cold outside. So we're like, all right, this is the

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 1>perfect morning for us and video games. But we digress.

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about video games. We want to be talking

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>about planed obsolescence, right, and so let's talk through some

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>different ways that we can make sure that we are

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that we're fighting, that we're combating planned obsolescens um. And

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the first step that we need to take comes before

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 1>we even make that purchase. I think we need to

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>research more before we make these purchases in our life.

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you make a smarter initial purchase, like

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you are more likely to get a longer lifespan out

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of your device. There are great sites out there, sites

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>like Consumer Reports and Wirecutter where you can read all

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 1>about the different you know, devices that you're considering, and

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>they can help you to buy things that are going

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to be built to last. And to avoid the products

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that are gonna cause you headaches after you need to

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>replace them after just a few months of use. Yeah,

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 1>buying quality on the front end make such a difference

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>in how long we're actually able to own something. Um,

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>we end up liking it more if it works better.

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Another way then that we can fight back against planned

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 1>obsolescence is attempt to repair the items that we do

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>own we're so used to I think disposable products that

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we often don't consider if the broken item is reparable.

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, Matt, you and I were not d I

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Y gurus, but we're all for giving it a shot.

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind breaking out the hot glue gun or

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.959
<v Speaker 1>even the duct tape if necessary. And if it's an

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>electronic item, check out sites like I fix It. It's

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>a great website. You can buy the tools to fix

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>your device and then they'll give you the instructions on

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>how to do it. Almost every decent sized metropolis too

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>has a screen fixing place, uh somewhere nearby where you

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 1>live if you don't want a chance going it alone.

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>But those are the kind of things where instead of

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>replacing it, trying to fix it, trying to extend the

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.640
<v Speaker 1>life essentially of the item that you already have. Yeah,

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that's right. We mentioned the Apple Store earlier. You don't

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>necessarily need to go straight to the Apple Store. You

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>can support a smaller local business. Another way that we

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>can avoid planned obs lescens is by forsaking latest trends, Joel.

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, often it's it's not that our gadget doesn't

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>work any longer, it's just that we got bored with it.

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>We see a product release, keynote addressed, you know, featuring

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>the hottest item that will make ours kind of feel

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 1>old and maybe a little bit crusty, you know, but

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the feeling is not based on reality. Our desire to

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the follow the trends is often at the root of

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>our belief that, you know, what we currently own is obsolete,

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>even when it definitely does have meaningful life left in it. Yeah,

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about gadgets here, some mat but but you know,

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 1>we talked about fast fashion earlier on in the show.

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I think this is a specific example where people end

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>up spending too much on clothing. We see an Instagram

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>at or we're reading a fashion magazine and we realized

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that what we owned last year just doesn't cut it. Anymore,

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes it feels like it's all these

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>inputs coming our way, and we'd normally be perfectly happy

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>with our wardrobe until we see those things. So yeah,

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:36.959
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it takes like getting some of those inputs out

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of our lives and then we don't know what we're missing.

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Another way to to fight back in the world of

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>planned obsolescence is to shop second hand. Sometimes you don't

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>even have to shop on eBay in order to grab

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 1>something a bit newer for yourself. Do you have a

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>friend or family member who's constantly upgrading their own gadgets,

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe there are two or three generations ahead of you

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>by one of their used models off of them they

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>make a bit of money from from their piece of

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>electronics that was used. You get to upgrade on the cheap.

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe you can even score an item for free.

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>If they were looking to toss an item out completely,

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.479
<v Speaker 1>you can save it from reaching the landfill. That's just

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>a one creative way that you might be able to use.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Shopping secondhand and maybe seeing what family members are are

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>doing with their old devices can can help you to

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>avoid buying new as opposed to getting something used that's

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>still in great condition right. In another way that we

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>can completely avoid the headache of plan obsolescens is if

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>we don't even own that item to begin with. And

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.439
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about actually owning fewer of these items. Man,

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking recently so when like the Apple Watch, you know,

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>all the different smart watches have been coming out, and

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you know they're they're really stinking popular, and I just

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.959
<v Speaker 1>don't get it, you know, like do any of us

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>actually need any of these gadgets? And makes my fail

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>curl watch look pretty shabby right now, doesn't it. It It

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>makes me want to go back and get like the

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>little calculator watch, like like like that rectangular black one

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>with like the tiny little buttons on it. But like,

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I know some people they really dig owning one of

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>these smart watches. But I think it's really important for

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>us to question that decision before you make that purchase,

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially I think this is true if you're

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>buying something that's in a new product category. Like were

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you able to get along fine for years and maybe

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>even decades of your life before you ever own this product,

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but now all of a sudden you need it? Why

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>is that? And so if it's not something that you

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>really need. Then, I think owning less can be really,

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.479
<v Speaker 1>really helpful when it comes to the derailing effects of

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>planned obsolescens in our lives. Yeah. I feel like I

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>had the same reaction when the iPad came out and

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>then everybody was tablet crazy and it's like, well, we

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>need a tablet for our family now, of course, maybe

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>three tablets, and it's just one of those new new

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>product lines, and a lot of people, just hook Line

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and Sinker were like, everybody needs sign me up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just not necessarily the case. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hate on people who really really love their

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>smart watch or love having an iPad and get a

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of use out of it, that's okay. I think

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we just don't do enough consideration ahead of time

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>on the front end before we make the purchase, and

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>then we're like, oh, yeah, this whole thing, it's it's fine,

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it's and then then you gotta upgraded every every year

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>when the new one comes out too. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>certainly want to affect the situation where you're buying something

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<v Speaker 1>and then trying to figure out what you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Right, It's like, I'm gonna go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>get this and let's see what problems that solves, if any,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like that should be the exact opposite approach

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that we should be taking, Like we should start with

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<v Speaker 1>a problem and hopefully these problems aren't like manufactured problems

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that we're now thinking that we have just because there

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>is a new solution on the scene. But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>definitely don't buy something thinking that like, cool, this will

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<v Speaker 1>be fun. Let's figure out what we're gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>it later. Buy it now though, Yeah, I mean, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the companies are creating like video chat devices

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<v Speaker 1>specific to their platform, like Facebook Portal I think is

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<v Speaker 1>what it's called. I don't even know about that yet.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>So so you can like literally buy it's been a

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>while since I've been on the Facebook. You can buy

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>buy a device from Facebook so you can message on

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>it and do like video calls. It's like I can

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>do that on my phone already, Like my phone basically

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>allows me to do all these things. I don't need

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>another device in my life, It's true. So yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's an important thing to consider owning less

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<v Speaker 1>in order to fight back against planned obsolescence and Matt

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>ultimately planned obsolescence is something that we've ace in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of areas in our lives these days. But to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid letting it cost us tons of money, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>important for us as individuals to do more homework up

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<v Speaker 1>front to protect and take care of the item so

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we do purchase and then to purposefully work to avoid upgrading.

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Because it's trendy, planned obsolescens as we talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, has some benefits, right, And at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of competition in our country, and so

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>people are competing to make good products and services. For

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<v Speaker 1>us as individuals, a lot of the burden is on

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<v Speaker 1>us actually to to avoid prematurely getting rid of things

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that's still work, that's still function well, um, and they

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>can still serve a purpose in our lives. I feel like,

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>while planned obsolescence still exists in the marketplace for the

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>most part, is something that we do to ourselves these

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<v Speaker 1>days and and something we need to do our best

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to avoid. Yeah, man, I totally agree. So let's go

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>ahead and shift gears. Man, let's get back to our beer.

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode, you and I we enjoyed a juicy

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<v Speaker 1>I p A and this is beer by Squatters Craft Beer.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are out of Salt Lake City in Utah,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that it is limited five percent. Yeah. I know,

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>we looked that up because I was like, oh, this

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>is five percent. It's a really good i PA for

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>five percent. It really is. And it's like, oh the

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Utah laws, that's right, they cap it at five percent,

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't make a beer that has a higher

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a BV than that, and that's like a big constraint

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>for a brewer to be under. And I gotta say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this beer that being said, was really good for a

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>five percent I PAL. It was delicious. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>light and fresh, and it had some great juicy character

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to it. I feel like typically I p a s

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<v Speaker 1>and the five percent range are lacking, and this one

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>was just awesome for the style and really really enjoyed it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, man. The first thing I noticed is

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<v Speaker 1>when we poured it, it it poured this really beautiful kind

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of cloudy light gold color. And so it definitely is

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a New England style i PA. But again, it's got

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>those flavors going on, but it's not too heavy. It's

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>got just a touch of that sharp funkiness without you know,

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe the body that kind of weighs it down. It

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>really was real bright and citrusy. It was honestly kind

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of refreshing. It was a really clean drinking New England

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<v Speaker 1>I PA, which I feel like it isn't necessarily a

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>typical characteristic of a New England style I PA. You know,

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't really characterize it as like clean drinking. A

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of times they're kind of like hazy and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cloudy, unfiltered, unclean, little funky exactly. But somehow this

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>one would managed to do both. I'm glad that you

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to enjoy this one, man. I'm glad

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Sam sent this one our way to enjoy on the show. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Sam. Yeah, thanks Sam. All Right, for everybody

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