1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Matt's and today we're discussing avoiding the trap of planned 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: obsolescence played obs lescens That's one of those terms that 4 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: were here thrown around a good bit, you know, it's 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: one of those terms that we are familiar with, but 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: we may not necessarily know exactly what it means. And 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about how it impacts our money, 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: how it affects the amount of money that we spend 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: in particular. And the thing is too, we're also gonna 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: get to why it's not necessarily an all bad thing. 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of times you hear that 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: planned obs lust since it's sort of this evil conspiracy 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: that companies implement in order to fleece us, you know, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: to get more money out of our pockets. But it's 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: not all bad. So that's what we're gonna discuss man. Yeah, 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, there is planned obsolescens by certain 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: manufacturers or certain industries. And at the same time, there's 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: ways in which we consider the things that we own 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: to be functionally oppositely. So we're gonna tackle that as 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: well in the show today. But Matt, before we get 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to that. You and I were celebrating a little bit 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: today because we both paid off a big debt that 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: we had in our lives. It's gone out of our 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: lives now. You and I both have paid off some 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: big chunks of debts. So, Kate and I we've been 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: working really hard over the past a year and a 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: half two years to pay off the helock that we 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: took out on our house to help fund the renovation 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: that we that we did here at the house. And you, man, 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: you recently paid off a full mortgage on one of 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: your investment properties that you've been working really hard at. Yeah, 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: that's right. So it was one of the ones that 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: I did not do a refin on. I refined a 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: couple recently, and I realized, Man, there's this this one 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: property I have, it's at above market interest rate. I 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: don't want to refinance it and pay the closing costs 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: in order to rEFInd. It's too low of a balance, 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: and so I'm just ready to be done with it. 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: And I had enough in my savings where I felt 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: comfortable paying that sucker off and also having enough to, 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, to have that minimum six months right of 42 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: living expenses set aside. So yeah, like, man, it's like 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: they weigh up the shoulders to have one mortgage down. 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Now it's like four to go. I guess yeah. And 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: so I think the bigger question that folks are probably 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: been asking is like, what are you doing paying off 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: mortgages that have pretty low interest rates? And I mean, 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: and I'll say, like I'll I will readily admit that 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: the HELO that we paid off, man, it is sitting 50 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: at three and a quarter percent. That's really low. And 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the number nerds out there are thinking, oh, 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: bad move, Matt and Joel, you guys both should have 53 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, been taking that money and investing it instead 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: putting it in the market. But the fact is, man, like, 55 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: this is an instance I know for us where it's 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: not all about the numbers. Over the years, man, I 57 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: found myself varying from the camp that's only looking at 58 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: the numbers, that's only looking at interest rates, and I 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: am considering just the emotional and the mental impacts uh 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: that paying off you know alone like that can have. 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: And so you know, the the stage of life that 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: we are in for sure is one of simplifying, and 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: we're trying to find ways to remove things from our 64 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: minds that take up space and clutter our minds basically, 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: and so for us, this was definitely one of the 66 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: ways to do that, because, yeah, it's not all about 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: the numbers. There's certainly some power behind feeling free mentally. 68 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: This is sort of an experiment to see how we 69 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: respond and how it feels to eliminate some of this debt, 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: even though by the numbers that may not necessarily make 71 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: the most sense. Yeah, I think to Matt, there's something 72 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: about being a little bit conservative in one area of 73 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: your life that can allow you to be more aggressive 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: in another area of your life. And so for me, 75 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: paying off this mortgage allows me to be even more 76 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: confident with my stock allocation, you know, in my investing 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: pairple It's like, if I'm a little conservative over here, 78 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: I can make sure that I'm never forced to sell stocks, 79 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: that I'm always able to maintain that aggressive allocation. And 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: so for yeah, me and my family, it felt like 81 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: the right move for us to make. And again, yeah, 82 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: the numbers, is it the best move overall for the 83 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: coming decades, that's the question we asked ourselves. But at 84 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: the same time, paying off a debt is I think 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: almost never a bad idea as long you can continue 86 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: to to invest and say for the future. Um, paying 87 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: off debt is a good move for people, and we 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: should all be encouraged, I think, to to look at 89 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: the debts that we have in our lives, take them 90 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more seriously, and work a little bit 91 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: harder to get rid of them. So yeah, congrats to you, 92 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: my friend, Thank you, and congrats as well to you buddy. 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Thanks man. I almost feel that we should have some 94 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: champagne this episode instead of or not, maybe champagne, but 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: like a nicer big bottle with a Cajun cork. They 96 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: do make something called the Champagne of Beers. Is that 97 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: so we're talking about that? Sat If they made a 98 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: seven fifty bottle of the Champagne of Beers, then maybe 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: that would feel appropriate. But no, this episode, you and 100 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: I we are enjoying a beer called Juicy I p 101 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: a uh and this is by Squatters Craft Beers. Big 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: thanks to Sam there at the brewery for sending this 103 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: one our way. I'm looking forward to enjoying this one 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: with you, buddy, and we will yeah share our thoughts 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: on this beer at the end of the episode. Sounds good. 106 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, let's get to the topic at hand now. 107 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Today we're talking about avoiding the trap of planned obsolescence. 108 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: And but I think we've all heard a time or 109 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: two one of our grandparents maybe exclaim they don't make 110 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: it like they used to. And I, man, I think, 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: like the older I get, I think I've been guilty 112 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: of saying something like that. Speaking of dad jokes, which 113 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: is the beer we did have recently? Yeah, yeah, I 114 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: feel like that's the typical dadline. As I'm growing up, 115 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: getting Yeah, I say stuff like that now and my 116 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: kids notice. But I think planned obsolescence is a part 117 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: of the reason that people say that. It certainly feels 118 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: at times that lots of items don't last as long 119 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: as they used to. And I think it can be 120 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: frustrating for all of us to purchase something with hard 121 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: earned money and then have to replace it before it 122 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: feels like it's a lifespan is up just because it 123 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: wasn't made well. Planned obsolescence. For me, it took a 124 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: massive leap onto my radar with the iPhone battery scandal 125 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: just a few years ago. Battery gate. Do they call 126 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: it that? They call everything on a gate? Why is that. 127 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: Actually I don't. I don't know Watergate, but like, was 128 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: it because the hotel was the hotel's name. Hotels they 129 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: just add gate to the end of their gate to everything, 130 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a scandal, exactly beer gate. 131 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I wonder what that would involve. But in seventeen, Apple 132 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: actually admitted to slowing down older iPhones, which was really 133 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: frustrating to people because it felt like they had noticed 134 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: that for years, like, man, why is my iPhone so 135 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: sluggish after just owning it for a year or two? Uh. 136 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: And then they were basically forced to massively reduce the 137 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: price of a battery upgrade in order to make customers 138 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: whole to provide them with a fresh battery so that 139 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: their older phone could continue to work. Um, and that's 140 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: kind of when playing obsilection. So I feel like the 141 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: red lights were the red lights were blinking, and I 142 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: started to like think about it a lot more in 143 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the past few years since then. Yeah, and there were 144 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: even reports last year that that some people were experiencing 145 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: issues with even you know, just newer iPhones right after 146 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: the latest model was announced. I haven't seen any like 147 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: verified reports of that, and so I might kind of 148 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: just chalk that up to kind of conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theory. Now, 149 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: I think that man like, you know, subconsciously, like we consumers, 150 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: might perceive our current products as inferior once there is 151 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: something kind of new and shining on the scene. You know, 152 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: there certainly are instances where, you know, it's the products 153 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: where it seems that they're designed to fail after a 154 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: certain period of time or maybe like after a certain 155 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: number of uses. But it's also important to consider whether 156 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: or not this obsolescent is due to our own habits 157 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: of consumption, you know, and in fact, like evidence points 158 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: to items like cars and TV is actually being built 159 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: to last even longer these days than they used to. 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: And so I think we can feel that planned obsolescence 161 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: is this thing that's kind of out to get us 162 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: and out to to steal our money essentially, But in 163 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: a lot of cases, I think sometimes that perception is 164 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: only occurring within our own minds. Yeah, you and I 165 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: we actually talked recently about the failure rate of televisions 166 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: these days. It's like three or something like that, And so, yeah, 167 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: I think I was in our insurance episode, we're basically 168 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: telling people to forego getting the extended warranty on a 169 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: TV because they're so well made. And I think that 170 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: sometimes it's easy to to see the negative point out 171 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: the bad, but we don't necessarily take a look at 172 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: what's gotten better. And yeah, a lot of items that 173 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: we use in our everyday lives have gotten better. Right. 174 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: The biggest, most obvious reason math that you and I 175 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: hate planned obsolescence, though, is due to the costs that 176 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: we incur when something does break, when it stops working 177 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: or it's no longer effective. And there's also the environmental impact. 178 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we develop a throw a mentality, which 179 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: leads to increased waste, more items in the landfill, and ultimately, uh, 180 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: it accelerates global warming. And the planned obsolescence of products 181 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: like lightbulbs, smartphones, or even just cheaply made furniture can 182 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: be annoying and frustrating. It certainly seems like some of 183 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: the things we buy these days just aren't meant to 184 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: last very long, and that means shelling more money out 185 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: in the future for replacement. Yeah, most definitely, you know. 186 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: And while some planned obsolescens might feel a bit nefarious, right, 187 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: there are some positives that are a results of it's 188 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: and we want to make sure to cover those two. 189 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, there are certain luxuries and creature comforts that 190 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: united that we get to enjoy as a result of 191 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: the effects of planned obsolescence. You know, for instance, going 192 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: back to when light bulbs, when they were first introduced 193 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: the filament, it was actually made with carbon and so 194 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: these light bulbs were much more expensive to produce. But 195 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: due to the demand of the masses, you know, everybody 196 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: wanted to have electric lights in their homes. And because 197 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: of that, that was a product that had a huge 198 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: barrier to entry and a lot of people weren't able 199 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: to you know, enjoy that product. So that's a simple 200 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: example where reducing the quality also brought down the cost, 201 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: which then made it much more accessible to everybody else, 202 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: not just not just the rich. Yeah, that's really cool. 203 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I yeah, I didn't know that, and I think that's 204 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: fascinating and it is an example of how planned obsolescence 205 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a conspiracy theory. Sometimes it's just a 206 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: functional necessity. And there's some other upsides as well. Right, 207 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: just thinking about all the jobs that come about as 208 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: a result of producing goods that aren't meant to ask forever, Right, 209 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: and another positive is that progress is made because items 210 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: eventually wear out and need to be replaced. So while 211 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: in this episode will do our best to help you 212 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: avoid the traffic planned obsolescency, it is important to admit 213 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: that it also does play a role in the innovation 214 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: and there are other side effects, positive effects of planned 215 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: obsolescence in our lives. Yeah, and this progress in this innovation, 216 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: it's it's a good thing, you know, Like nobody's going 217 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: to argue with the fact that we pretty much all 218 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: have airbags in our cars now. But what that means though, 219 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: is that, you know, that progress it comes at the 220 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: expense of these older vehicles that don't have those features, right, 221 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: And so it's not that those old items or old 222 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: products no longer work, it's just that, well, they just 223 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: don't happen to have the you know, the latest features 224 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: that a lot of individuals are wanting in specifically in 225 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: this case, in their cars today, you know, specifically to 226 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: keep us safe exactly. But plan obsolescence it's not always 227 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: a good thing, and it can affect us negatively. And 228 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: so we're gonna focus on avoiding products with a shorter 229 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: life cycle in order to save yourself some money. You know, 230 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: if we update our our gadgets every single year, you 231 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: know it's gonna cost us. Or if we we purchase 232 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: items that are more likely to break or wear out 233 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: in a few years and instead of maybe a decade 234 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: or longer, it will mean spending more, along with a 235 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: rising level of frustration. And so after the break, let's 236 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: detail a few areas in addition to handheld electronics where 237 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: plan obsolescence has been frustrating Lee in Vogue for quite 238 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: a while now, and then we'll also discuss how we 239 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: can take a different route. We'll get to that right 240 00:10:50,600 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: after this. All right, we're back from the break, And Matt, 241 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: I love the example you just gave up the light bulb. 242 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: I feel like that clicks in my mind in like 243 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: in a really awesome ways, like a light bulb went 244 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: off in my head. When if you want to really 245 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: expensive nice lightbel that costs I don't know, fifty dollars 246 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: or you know, like the one dollar one. Now I'm 247 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: into that. Well, you remember too when elid bulbs first 248 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: hit the market and they were like what twelve fifteen 249 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: dollars per bulb, and it was like so expensive to 250 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: replace them. But I'd love too how the more manufacturers 251 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: were producing these bulbs that the costs have come down. 252 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: You can get great LED bulbs for a dollar a 253 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: bulb now, Um, they're they're just so easy and cheap 254 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: to replace. But let's give a couple examples of places 255 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: where planned obsolescence wears a Tuckley had in a major way. 256 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: And Matt first example is textbooks. It's all of our 257 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: recent college grads out there. They're they're thinking, yes, text books, 258 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: they're terrible. They cost me a lot of money every semester, 259 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: and they're this classic example I think of planned obsolescence. 260 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: School systems pay an outrageous amount for textbooks every year 261 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: for their kids, and college students have to budget hundreds 262 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: and hundred of dollars each semester just for books for 263 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: their classes. And so I think there are ways to 264 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: combat a couple of these these major areas where we 265 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,479 Speaker 1: see planned obsolescence. So instead, when we're talking about textbooks, 266 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: maybe check with your professor to see if a previous 267 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: edition still works. Oftentimes that previous edition costs a fraction 268 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: of the price of the newest one because that's what 269 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: everybody is using now. Or share with a friend. Sometimes 270 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: that can work if you're going through a class together, 271 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: and sometimes Matt the teacher, the professor doesn't even use 272 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: the textbook. It's it's listed as something you need to buy, 273 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: and then you get the class and they're like, yeah, 274 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't really do the textbook, which just lecture based, 275 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: and then you're like, crap, did I spend a hundred 276 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: eighty dollars on that book now? Or you look at 277 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: it like twice since? Right? Pointless exactly. And you can 278 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: even rent textbooks these days via sites like Amazon and 279 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: cheg right that prevents that loss of a new edition 280 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: does come along for the next semester, making that book 281 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: that you purchased now worthless. So renting a textbook instead 282 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: of buying it makes a whole lot of sense for 283 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Yeah, and depending if you maybe 284 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: are in an English or like a literature class too, 285 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Like they're like a lot of the classic books that 286 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: college students are assigned to read sometimes can be found 287 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: online for free right there, open licensed and I saw 288 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: two that you can go to a site like open 289 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: stacks or Project Gutenberg and you can check and see 290 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: if a book that you that you need for a 291 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: certain course can be found online for free, uh in 292 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: a digital format, which is a really nice way to 293 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: to save some money as well. And so Jill, you know, 294 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: speaking of textbooks, fast fashion like that is another textbook 295 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: example of planned obsolescence. Beautiful pod, we gotta embrace those 296 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: dad jokes. A new wardrob bottom that maybe you purchased recently, 297 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: it likely wasn't made to look cool for very long, 298 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, or even to last until spring, because of 299 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: how cheaply it was made. In fact, there are reports 300 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: of how H and M how they can turn out 301 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: a new style from drawing board to the stores in 302 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: just two weeks, man, And so that means, you know, 303 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: there's cool new threads might be out of style after 304 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: you even wear them once. And so we would recommend 305 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: for folks in this case to avoid fast fashion in 306 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: the pursuit of well made, staple items that stay in 307 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: the test of time, you know, instead of fashion like 308 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: work to develop your own personal style that doesn't change 309 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: with time. I think my wife wishes mine with change 310 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: with time maybe, but it's not. It's here forever. Okay, 311 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: it's here forever, and it's affordable exactly. No. It is funny, man, 312 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: I think about some of the shirts that I own 313 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: that I've had the longest. Literally, some of them are 314 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: fifty years old because I bought them fifteen years ago 315 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: in the third Store and some old man was wearing 316 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: them for thirty years before that. And those are some 317 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: of my favorite shirts still. And when I pop a 318 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: button or or uh, you know, get a hole in it, 319 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: it makes me so sad because it's really hard to 320 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: match a fifty year old button. Exactly. It'll make them. 321 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: They'll make them like they used to, Joel. They don't 322 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: dig it. You did. Well. Yeah. Another area mat we're 323 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: playing obsolescence definitely weird exactly, head is in ink cartridges 324 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: for printers. That is in large part because these printers 325 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: were created to waste ink, and printer manufacturers sell printers 326 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: for twenty or thirty bucks because they're not hoping to 327 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: make money on the printer. They're planning on making money 328 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: every time you have to replace the inc and some 329 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: manufacturers are working to change that though, they're working to 330 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: create printers that that don't function with this planned obsolescens mentality. 331 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: So look to those printers instead of getting the cheapest 332 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: printer you can, because that one's actually gonna cost you 333 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: more over the time that you own it. Brother has 334 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: an investment printer and Epson has an Eco tank. Both 335 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: have opted to change things up in the way they 336 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: in their approach. The Eco tank implemented refillable cartridges so 337 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to replace them for a long, long, 338 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: long time. Filling up that ink instead of constantly replacing 339 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: the cartridges is going to save you just a massive 340 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: amount of money, and it's gonna reduce waste at the 341 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: same time. Chucking those used cartridges just in the in 342 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: the trash can. Yeah, and we all know that there 343 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: are very few things that that are more inconvenient than 344 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: running out of ink, you know, when you're interesting trying 345 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: to get some printed out before dashing out the door. Truth. 346 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: All right, So those are some of the ways that 347 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: we see planned obsolescence in our lives, right, cell phones 348 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: and other personal technology may they are also an example 349 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: that you know that comes to mind where planned obsolescence 350 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: seems to be working on a predictable you know, to 351 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: your schedule, where folks feel the need to replace the 352 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: items costing them tons of money. But there are in 353 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: fact ways to make your technology last longer. And that's 354 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about now, So when it comes 355 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: to our personal electronics, Uh, let's talk about replacing batteries. 356 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: You know, we touched on this at the beginning of 357 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: the episode. And it's not as you know, easy to 358 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: d l why this as it was maybe in the 359 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: early days of cell phones, right in the early days 360 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: of you know, the droid phones in particular. Man, I 361 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: remember my first EVO just like pop it out, popping 362 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: the news exactly. That's super easy. They used to be 363 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: so easily removed in many of those models, but the 364 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: battery is a likely culprit and white people tend to 365 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: toss out an older laptop or an older phone. Uh, 366 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: and so instead we would recommend for folks to to 367 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: look to replace it. So whether that means taking your 368 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: iPhone maybe to an Apple store for replacement, or ordering 369 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: a replacement battery for your laptop, and those are are 370 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: typically easier to install. But you can easily get twice 371 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: as much life out of a device with that one 372 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: simple move. You know. A lot of the experts say that, 373 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: like on your phone, you can check, you know, your 374 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: battery health and once it gets down to like around 375 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: six or less, you know, you're like you're You're device 376 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: is not going to be functioning at the level that 377 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: it needs to be in order to probably keep you happy, 378 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: and so that would definitely be a good time to 379 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: get that battery replaced. Yeah. Another way to to make 380 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: your tech last longer is to clean your gadgets and 381 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: your appliances, right, just toss them in the washer with 382 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: your pants. That's what I do with my phone. I 383 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: tossed in the dishwasher, good to go, super clean, high 384 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: temperature washed. It really doesn't affect it. And we have 385 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: to put a disclaimer after that just in case one 386 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: of our listeners actually does that. Now we don't, okay. 387 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Uh So. One of the reasons things break down oftentimes 388 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: is due to a build up of dirt and grime 389 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: and those canned air salt cans or even like a 390 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: sewing needle, depending on on you know, what's messed up 391 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: with your phone or what's getting grimy. They can help 392 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: you blow out or dig out some of the grime 393 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: and nastiness and funk that's on a cell phone or 394 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: laptop or or a desktop computer, and desktop computers can 395 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: even be opened up once a year to blow out 396 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: the fan household appliances to write your fridge will will 397 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: last longer and perform better if you vacuum the coils 398 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: every year. There are all these ways that you can 399 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: take care of the things that you have, keep them clean, 400 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: and then they'll they'll last longer, they'll they'll perform better 401 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: for you, and so you'll be more app to keep 402 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: it around in your life and not ditch it for 403 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: the next model, which is gonna end up costing you money. Yeah, 404 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: if you have a laptop or desktop computer that sounds 405 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: like it's getting ready to take off, like it's an airplane, 406 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: when you're trying to to maybe open more than one 407 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: application at a time, like there's a good chance that 408 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: it's really dirty, and and you know, and the fans 409 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: having to work overtime in order to to keep the 410 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: processor cool. That's just how it works. And another fact, 411 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: when you have too many apps or or too many 412 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: old files on your computer, it's gonna slow down the 413 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: performance of that device, you know. So we're gonna recommend 414 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: for you to delete unused data, back up your your 415 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: videos and photos with something like you know, Google Photos, 416 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: where you know you can have fifteen gigs of free storage, 417 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: or you can even get a separate hard drive which 418 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: are really affordable these days, or just something similar in 419 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: order to avoid having tons of those files stored locally, 420 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: which will slow down your device. You can even on 421 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: your iPhone. You can go to iPhone storage and it 422 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: lists out the different apps on your phone that use 423 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: the most storage. Right, And so you might be surprised 424 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: to see that text messages, your messaging app uses over 425 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: ten gigs worth of of storage. And it's because of 426 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: all those gifts and a those pictures you're sending back 427 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: and forth to your friends. And if you don't care 428 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: about those pictures anymore, well that's something you can easily 429 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: delete from your phone and free up a lot of space. Yeah. 430 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: In another way to extend the life of your gadget 431 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: so you don't have to get a new one is 432 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: to protect it. And this is an obvious move, but 433 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: most people should have a phone case. The more we drop, crack, 434 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: or completely shatter our phone screen without having a decent case. 435 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Matt, the less likely that the 436 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: phone will last for us. And I actually do not 437 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: take my own advice on this one. I do not 438 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: have a case on my phone, but I also handle 439 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: it with care and I purchased cheaper phones so that 440 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: if something did accidentally happen, I wouldn't be out nearly 441 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: as much money. If I had iPhone, I would have 442 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: a case on it. But but yeah, that's something that 443 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, especially if you're getting 444 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: the nicest latest gadget, protecting it so that it will 445 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: have a long life is crucial, especially considering how much 446 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: some of the things cost these days. Yeah, that did 447 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: I tell you that Kay got her new iPhone? Sc 448 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh nice? How she like it? She's digging it, man, 449 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a nicer phone. It's probably the 450 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: nicest phone she's ever owned, and which, by the way, 451 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: isn't also very nice. It's kind of like their entry 452 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: level phone. But she invested in one of those you know, 453 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: solid otter boxes and it's like bulletproof. Nice. But I 454 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: was actually, especially with kids, you almost like need that 455 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: because they will bite it and they will lick it 456 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: and they will drop it on the ground. Something else 457 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: so I learned is that I used to always kind 458 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: of make fun of the screen protectors because I'm thinking, 459 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't really care if I get a light scratch 460 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: on my phone, Like what I want to not have happen, 461 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: is it's shatter or crack, you know. But I was 462 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: reading up on them, and one of the arguments for 463 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: those screen protectors is the fact that by avoiding those 464 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: really light scratches that actually keeps your phone from cracking 465 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: when you do drop your phone. And so think of 466 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: each one of those little scratch marks. It's sort of 467 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: like a score, you know, like when you're scoring something 468 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: and you're getting when you're getting ready to break it 469 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: or to tear it. The more of the stare, the 470 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: more likely you're gonna break it, exactly. And I had 471 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: never really thought about that. Maybe it seems obvious to 472 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: you or maybe to some of our listeners out there, 473 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: but I said it, It sounds obvious, but I wouldn't 474 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: have known that. Yeah, I used to always think it. Well, 475 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't really like, why do you put a screen 476 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: protector on there. It doesn't make any sense. If you 477 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: end up dropping your phone, it's gonna shatter. I don't 478 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: care if it gets the fine scratch. I don't want 479 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: it to shatter, but the fine scratches can lead to 480 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: the shattering. And so so yeah, store that one away 481 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: for the next time you do get a new phone. 482 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: It's good to know. And Matt, I know there's people 483 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: out there who do want to upgrade their device. I've 484 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: talked recently about the fact that I'm really still leaning 485 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: towards potentially getting the Pixel four as still on the 486 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: for a train. Yeah, man, thinking about it, thinking about it. 487 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: And and Kate obviously she just upgraded, got a new phone. 488 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: But the important thing to do if you are ready 489 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: to upgrade to something else is to know that one 490 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: person's trash is another person's treasure. So in order to 491 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: avoid the trap of planned obsolescence in that case, it's 492 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: important to sell your old item, your your old piece 493 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: of electronics for for as much as you can get 494 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: from it. You could also hand it down to somebody 495 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: else who who's in need, right, But but selling for 496 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: top dollar means that you're gonna want to avoid a 497 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: trade in with your service provider. Look to selling independently instead. 498 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: That way, the circle of life continues. That the vice 499 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: doesn't go into the trash, somebody ends up using it 500 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: and they get joy out of it and U sound 501 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: of it too. I'm just picturing the lion king in 502 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: the circle of life as someone's like handing like the 503 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: cell phone over to the monkey and he holds it up, 504 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, like some moving rock move after handing his 505 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: his older pixel model down to Simba. So yeah, definitely 506 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: look to sell it yourself, right, like you don't necessarily 507 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: want to just hand it over to your your cell carrier. 508 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: Look to be a platforms that we all know like eBay, 509 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: you can get a Facebook marketplace. Gazelle is also another 510 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: place where you can sell your old device and also 511 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: to check out sell sell dot com but that's spelled 512 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: s e L L C e l L dot com, uh, 513 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: and you can go there and you can get a 514 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: quick idea of what it might be worth, what your 515 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: phone might be worth, and who is willing to pay 516 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: you the most. I entered the information from my phone 517 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: and I found out it's even still with all the 518 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: cracks and everything is still worth between twenty and twenty 519 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: seven dollars. But as I was taggling between the different 520 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: levels of condition, you know, you got like good, fair, bad, 521 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: or I think like the last one was like defective 522 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: or something like that. Trash. Yeah, I'm like, well what 523 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: you near effective fear trash because like it's not trash, 524 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: it still works, but like the screen is broken in 525 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: all the places and so, but but that can be refurbished. 526 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: That's a great thing about selling some of those sites 527 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: as those phones to get referbished, they get a new life, 528 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: they get resold to somebody after they've been looked over, 529 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: and someone else can can have a phone that they 530 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: get for I don't know, maybe seventy or eighty dollars 531 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: that is set to last for another two years. So yeah, 532 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: don't junk it and actually get your money's worth out 533 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: of it. Mine, I looked it up, was worth seventeen dollars. 534 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't have a crack screen, but it's a really 535 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: old phone. Um, and I really thought it was worth 536 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: probably zero. But to know that I could actually get 537 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: something out of it better than nothing, yeah, I was like, 538 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: all right, that's not too bad. Yeah. What's so cool 539 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: about that site is that, you know, you enter in 540 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: the information and it pulls up all these other sites 541 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: and they show what the average prices that they're willing 542 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: to pay. And so that's that's how you're able to 543 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: easily go to this one place and get the best, 544 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, the best estimate for your device. Love an 545 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: aggregator like that, So bringing them all together, all right, Matt, 546 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: We've got more to get to on playing adopts a lescens, 547 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: including the most important ways you can fight back in 548 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: a world that's deep in planned obsolescence, and we'll get 549 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: to to some of those tips right after this break. 550 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Al r Joe, We're back to the break and we're 551 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: talking about planned obso lescens and specifically planing ops lessons, 552 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: how it costs us a lot of money. But we're 553 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: not just gonna take it, you know, We're not just 554 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: gonna roll over. We're going to fight back against this 555 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: planned obsolescens. We're gonna throw Mike Tyson uvercut punch to it. 556 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Man. Did you ever play Mike Tyson's 557 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: Punch Up back on the original Nintendo? Yeah, for sure, 558 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: that's a great game. We've recently pulled out what's that. 559 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: What's the little mini Nintendo that you plug up that's 560 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: got all into games built into it and you plug 561 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, it's like the modern version of the 562 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: old school Nintendo. Yeah right, and it's got like fifty 563 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: games built into it, you know, but it's still got 564 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: the remote. We recently busted that out and the girls 565 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: have been playing Balloon Fight. It's so much fun. Yeah, 566 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: I got one for Christmas, Slasher, but I think I'm 567 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: only played it twice. Like, I don't know, I just 568 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: don't play video games very much, but it's fun when 569 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: I do. It's good for like a rainy day. And wait, wait, 570 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: yeah it was raining the other Saturday and kind of 571 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: cold outside. So we're like, all right, this is the 572 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: perfect morning for us and video games. But we digress. 573 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: We're talking about video games. We want to be talking 574 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: about planed obsolescence, right, and so let's talk through some 575 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: different ways that we can make sure that we are 576 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: that we're fighting, that we're combating planned obsolescens um. And 577 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: the first step that we need to take comes before 578 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: we even make that purchase. I think we need to 579 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: research more before we make these purchases in our life. 580 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, if you make a smarter initial purchase, like 581 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: you are more likely to get a longer lifespan out 582 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: of your device. There are great sites out there, sites 583 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: like Consumer Reports and Wirecutter where you can read all 584 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: about the different you know, devices that you're considering, and 585 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: they can help you to buy things that are going 586 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: to be built to last. And to avoid the products 587 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: that are gonna cause you headaches after you need to 588 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: replace them after just a few months of use. Yeah, 589 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: buying quality on the front end make such a difference 590 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: in how long we're actually able to own something. Um, 591 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: we end up liking it more if it works better. 592 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: Another way then that we can fight back against planned 593 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: obsolescence is attempt to repair the items that we do 594 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: own we're so used to I think disposable products that 595 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: we often don't consider if the broken item is reparable. 596 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, Matt, you and I were not d I 597 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: Y gurus, but we're all for giving it a shot. 598 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't mind breaking out the hot glue gun or 599 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: even the duct tape if necessary. And if it's an 600 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: electronic item, check out sites like I fix It. It's 601 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: a great website. You can buy the tools to fix 602 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: your device and then they'll give you the instructions on 603 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: how to do it. Almost every decent sized metropolis too 604 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: has a screen fixing place, uh somewhere nearby where you 605 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: live if you don't want a chance going it alone. 606 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: But those are the kind of things where instead of 607 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: replacing it, trying to fix it, trying to extend the 608 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: life essentially of the item that you already have. Yeah, 609 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: that's right. We mentioned the Apple Store earlier. You don't 610 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: necessarily need to go straight to the Apple Store. You 611 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: can support a smaller local business. Another way that we 612 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: can avoid planned obs lescens is by forsaking latest trends, Joel. 613 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, often it's it's not that our gadget doesn't 614 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: work any longer, it's just that we got bored with it. 615 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: We see a product release, keynote addressed, you know, featuring 616 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: the hottest item that will make ours kind of feel 617 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: old and maybe a little bit crusty, you know, but 618 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: the feeling is not based on reality. Our desire to 619 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: the follow the trends is often at the root of 620 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: our belief that, you know, what we currently own is obsolete, 621 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: even when it definitely does have meaningful life left in it. Yeah, 622 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about gadgets here, some mat but but you know, 623 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: we talked about fast fashion earlier on in the show. 624 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: I think this is a specific example where people end 625 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: up spending too much on clothing. We see an Instagram 626 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: at or we're reading a fashion magazine and we realized 627 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: that what we owned last year just doesn't cut it. Anymore, 628 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes it feels like it's all these 629 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: inputs coming our way, and we'd normally be perfectly happy 630 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: with our wardrobe until we see those things. So yeah, 631 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: sometimes it takes like getting some of those inputs out 632 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: of our lives and then we don't know what we're missing. 633 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: Another way to to fight back in the world of 634 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: planned obsolescence is to shop second hand. Sometimes you don't 635 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: even have to shop on eBay in order to grab 636 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: something a bit newer for yourself. Do you have a 637 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: friend or family member who's constantly upgrading their own gadgets, 638 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: maybe there are two or three generations ahead of you 639 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: by one of their used models off of them they 640 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: make a bit of money from from their piece of 641 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: electronics that was used. You get to upgrade on the cheap. 642 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: Or maybe you can even score an item for free. 643 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: If they were looking to toss an item out completely, 644 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: you can save it from reaching the landfill. That's just 645 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: a one creative way that you might be able to use. 646 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: Shopping secondhand and maybe seeing what family members are are 647 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: doing with their old devices can can help you to 648 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: avoid buying new as opposed to getting something used that's 649 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: still in great condition right. In another way that we 650 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: can completely avoid the headache of plan obsolescens is if 651 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: we don't even own that item to begin with. And 652 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: we're talking about actually owning fewer of these items. Man, 653 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking recently so when like the Apple Watch, you know, 654 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: all the different smart watches have been coming out, and 655 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: you know they're they're really stinking popular, and I just 656 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: don't get it, you know, like do any of us 657 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: actually need any of these gadgets? And makes my fail 658 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: curl watch look pretty shabby right now, doesn't it. It It 659 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: makes me want to go back and get like the 660 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: little calculator watch, like like like that rectangular black one 661 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: with like the tiny little buttons on it. But like, 662 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: I know some people they really dig owning one of 663 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: these smart watches. But I think it's really important for 664 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: us to question that decision before you make that purchase, 665 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, especially I think this is true if you're 666 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: buying something that's in a new product category. Like were 667 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: you able to get along fine for years and maybe 668 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: even decades of your life before you ever own this product, 669 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: but now all of a sudden you need it? Why 670 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: is that? And so if it's not something that you 671 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: really need. Then, I think owning less can be really, 672 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: really helpful when it comes to the derailing effects of 673 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: planned obsolescens in our lives. Yeah. I feel like I 674 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: had the same reaction when the iPad came out and 675 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: then everybody was tablet crazy and it's like, well, we 676 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: need a tablet for our family now, of course, maybe 677 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: three tablets, and it's just one of those new new 678 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: product lines, and a lot of people, just hook Line 679 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: and Sinker were like, everybody needs sign me up. Yeah, 680 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: And it's just not necessarily the case. And I don't 681 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: want to hate on people who really really love their 682 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: smart watch or love having an iPad and get a 683 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: lot of use out of it, that's okay. I think 684 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: sometimes we just don't do enough consideration ahead of time 685 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: on the front end before we make the purchase, and 686 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: then we're like, oh, yeah, this whole thing, it's it's fine, 687 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: it's and then then you gotta upgraded every every year 688 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: when the new one comes out too. Yeah, and you 689 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: certainly want to affect the situation where you're buying something 690 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: and then trying to figure out what you're gonna do 691 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: with it. Right, It's like, I'm gonna go ahead and 692 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: get this and let's see what problems that solves, if any, 693 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, Like that should be the exact opposite approach 694 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: that we should be taking, Like we should start with 695 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: a problem and hopefully these problems aren't like manufactured problems 696 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: that we're now thinking that we have just because there 697 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: is a new solution on the scene. But yeah, like 698 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: definitely don't buy something thinking that like, cool, this will 699 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: be fun. Let's figure out what we're gonna do with 700 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: it later. Buy it now though, Yeah, I mean, dude, 701 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: some of the companies are creating like video chat devices 702 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: specific to their platform, like Facebook Portal I think is 703 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: what it's called. I don't even know about that yet. 704 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: So so you can like literally buy it's been a 705 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: while since I've been on the Facebook. You can buy 706 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: buy a device from Facebook so you can message on 707 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: it and do like video calls. It's like I can 708 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: do that on my phone already, Like my phone basically 709 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: allows me to do all these things. I don't need 710 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: another device in my life, It's true. So yeah, just 711 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's an important thing to consider owning less 712 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: in order to fight back against planned obsolescence and Matt 713 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: ultimately planned obsolescence is something that we've ace in a 714 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: lot of areas in our lives these days. But to 715 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: avoid letting it cost us tons of money, it's really 716 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 1: important for us as individuals to do more homework up 717 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: front to protect and take care of the item so 718 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: we do purchase and then to purposefully work to avoid upgrading. 719 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Because it's trendy, planned obsolescens as we talked about in 720 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: the beginning, has some benefits, right, And at the same time, 721 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of competition in our country, and so 722 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: people are competing to make good products and services. For 723 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: us as individuals, a lot of the burden is on 724 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: us actually to to avoid prematurely getting rid of things 725 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: that's still work, that's still function well, um, and they 726 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: can still serve a purpose in our lives. I feel like, 727 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: while planned obsolescence still exists in the marketplace for the 728 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: most part, is something that we do to ourselves these 729 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: days and and something we need to do our best 730 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: to avoid. Yeah, man, I totally agree. So let's go 731 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: ahead and shift gears. Man, let's get back to our beer. 732 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: On this episode, you and I we enjoyed a juicy 733 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: I p A and this is beer by Squatters Craft Beer. 734 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: These guys are out of Salt Lake City in Utah, 735 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: which means that it is limited five percent. Yeah. I know, 736 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: we looked that up because I was like, oh, this 737 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: is five percent. It's a really good i PA for 738 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: five percent. It really is. And it's like, oh the 739 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: Utah laws, that's right, they cap it at five percent, 740 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Like you can't make a beer that has a higher 741 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: a BV than that, and that's like a big constraint 742 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: for a brewer to be under. And I gotta say, man, 743 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: this beer that being said, was really good for a 744 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: five percent I PAL. It was delicious. It was like 745 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: light and fresh, and it had some great juicy character 746 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: to it. I feel like typically I p a s 747 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: and the five percent range are lacking, and this one 748 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: was just awesome for the style and really really enjoyed it. Yeah, 749 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you, man. The first thing I noticed is 750 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: when we poured it, it it poured this really beautiful kind 751 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: of cloudy light gold color. And so it definitely is 752 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: a New England style i PA. But again, it's got 753 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: those flavors going on, but it's not too heavy. It's 754 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: got just a touch of that sharp funkiness without you know, 755 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: maybe the body that kind of weighs it down. It 756 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: really was real bright and citrusy. It was honestly kind 757 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: of refreshing. It was a really clean drinking New England 758 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: I PA, which I feel like it isn't necessarily a 759 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: typical characteristic of a New England style I PA. You know, 760 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: you don't really characterize it as like clean drinking. A 761 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of times they're kind of like hazy and kind 762 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: of cloudy, unfiltered, unclean, little funky exactly. But somehow this 763 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: one would managed to do both. I'm glad that you 764 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: and I got to enjoy this one, man. I'm glad 765 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: Sam sent this one our way to enjoy on the show. Uh, 766 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: thank you, Sam. Yeah, thanks Sam. All Right, for everybody 767 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: who's listening, and if you want shown ups for this episodes, 768 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: there there are a lot of things we mentioned and 769 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: all of those websites will be in the show notes 770 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: for you to check out. If you just go to 771 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: our website at how to money dot com. Yeah, we'll 772 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: definitely make sure to link to uh sal sale dot com. 773 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: That was certainly our favorite website that we came across 774 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: when we were preparing getting ready for this episode and 775 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: For folks who have not left us a review, we 776 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: would really appreciate a review over at Apple Podcasts. All 777 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: those great reviews allows others who haven't yet listened to 778 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: how the money helps them to find the podcast and 779 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: hopefully to do smarter things with their money as well. 780 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: So thank you in advance for that. Alright, my friend, 781 00:33:51,920 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Until next time, Best friends out, best friends out, m