1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December thirty and two, twenty, season sixteen, 8 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: episode number eighty nine. Welcome the latest edition of The Break, 9 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: presented by Geico. We are live s WBC Morgan Studios 10 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: at the Star. Got Nick and Dave here with me. 11 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: Ambers out today, but we got Bucky Brooks joining us 12 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: for the entire show for NFL NFL Network. We appreciate 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: you joining us, Bucky. Good to have all you guys 14 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: on the air and have you guys here in studio. 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: It's good when we can actually see each other and 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: be able to talk face to face. We're gonna start 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: off the show today talking a little bit of catching 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: up on some injuries. I had a topic I wanted 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: to hit with you guys about Mike McCarthy's press conference. 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: It was an interesting question that came up there that 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: I want to throw out to you guys. We'll have 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Bucky segment where he will break down the New York 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: Giants offense for US versus the Cowboys defense, and then 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: we'll have some other questions about this Cowboys defense. Let's 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: start first with injury updates. Dave, give me a rundown. 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: We've got Zack Martin, We've got Leyden vandersh, Xavier Woods, 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: and Zeke Elliott. They're all injured players. Tell me where 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: we are as far status on them. Zack Martin's practice 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: window has been opened, but he is not going to 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: practice today, So do with that what you will. The 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: owner yesterday said he doesn't think it's likely that he 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: plays on Sunday, And if Jerry doesn't feel good about 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: something on the injury front, that's usual not a good sign. 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: But if if, if his practice windows open, that does mean, 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, if the Cowboys find their way into the playoffs, 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Zach might be available, maybe you know, for a wildcard 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: game or something like that. I'm gonna pause you right 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: there because I wanted to ask you guys, with a 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: guy like him, that's so that's such a great player 40 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: in a game that you would think is so important. 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Is this a situation where you would opt to play 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: him even if he wasn't one hundred percent or do 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: you think based upon where they are in the season, 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: you don't take any chances unless you think he's one 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent or at least close to one hundred percent, 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: you sit him. I gonna start with you name. No, 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm not playing him. And I only say this because 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: of because I I can attest to this one. I 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: really can't. Well, you know, you like playing it with 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: a calf and then being stupid and still doing stuff 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: on it and not giving its proper rest, and now 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: you're dealing with it a year and a half later. 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: I don't want him to deal with anything later. So 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: if this means if he's rushing back kcaffeinjury, not only 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: could you linger some things there, but you could maybe 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: lead to like Kevin Durant, right, I mean people think 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: he had like a torn achilles because of that. I'm 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: not rushing him back for this game. If he's not. 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: Uh No, if it's if it's the NFC Championship game 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: or something bigger than that, we'll give it a few weeks. 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later. Well, yeah, but I mean 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: he should be back by then. But I'm just saying 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: not not for this game. If you can't beat the 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Giants without Zach and Martin, then you know you're probably 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: not gonna do anything anyways. Yeah, we also know Zach 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Martin is much like Tyrant Smith, like he's a BAMF. 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Like he's a tough, tough guy, like I remember second BAMF. Yeah, 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: you can google that if you're not on my if 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: you're not on my wavelength, um man, I love it. 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: But I mean I remember a few years ago, like 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, he he got tangled up at training camp 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and like they had to bring the card out and 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: it was one of those like, oh my god, they're 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: gonna lose Zach for the season, and like he was 75 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: at practice the next day. So if he can't go 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: that it's not like he's at ninety percent. No, it 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: means he can't go because he'll got through some stuff, 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: you know. So No, I mean, if it's a thing 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: where they don't think he can play, that means it's 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: serious and he should sit. And if it gets to 81 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs and he feels a little bit better, I 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: probably changed my attitude, but not for this what are 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, Bucky, Well, I think they've been 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: playing so well as a unit. I don't think you 85 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: need to bring Zach Martin back unless he's one percent healthy. 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: This you know, quintet has played pretty well. They've done 87 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: a good job of moving people off the ball, protecting 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and so only in an emergency would I 89 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: bring him back. Now the playoffs, it's a different story, 90 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: because if he's healthy and able to go, then obviously 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: you want the more talented player on the front line. 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: But because they play so well the last four or 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: five weeks, I wouldn't change the chemistry and the continuity 94 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: unless I know that Zach is going to be able 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: to finish the game and finish the game playing really well. 96 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: All right, Bucky, MA ask you this. Let's say that 97 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Zach is one question yesterday he is going to play? 98 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Where do you play him? And like who is that? 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: You said the offensive lines figured it out, which is 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: which is awesome, But who who would you play him for? 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: You go back to his regular position and take McGovern now, 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: or do you put him at tackle who is knocked 103 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: out in that scenario? My preference, I would prefer to 104 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: put him back at right tackle, if I could, I 105 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: worry about I think the weakest link on the offensive 106 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: line is Terring Steel. And so when we think about 107 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: the teams that you would play, not only this game 108 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: but going forward, typically they have a pass rush on 109 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: that side that I want to deal with. I'm more 110 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: confident in Zack Martin being able to seal the edges 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: than Terring Skill. All right, let's let's go on with 112 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: the rest of these guys that we got on the 113 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: injury report. You got Lady Vanderish, Xavier Woods, and Zeke Elliot. 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: What do we know about them? David Layton is not 115 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: practicing today. Xavier Woods will be limited, which is a 116 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: good sign of Zeke also limited kind of you know, 117 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: it seems like they have Zeke on a maintenance plan, 118 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: probably for however long they're gonna keep playing. Yeah, I mean, 119 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: I feel optimistic he can play, but they'll probably be 120 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: careful with him in practice. Also a bamp, so yeah, 121 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah, all right, let's move on. I want to 122 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: talk about Mike McCarthy's press conference this morning. That was 123 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: a question that was asked to him, and I really 124 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: don't want to focus too much on his answer because 125 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: his answer was kind of it just a it didn't 126 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: really answer the question in my opinion, But I would 127 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: like to pose the question to you guys. Yeah, I 128 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: would like to pose the question to you guys. One 129 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: of the media people ask him, and I don't know 130 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: who it was, but they ask, what is the identity 131 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: of this team? And so I'm gonna ask you guys. 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna go around the room, what do you think 133 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: is the identity of the team? And by the way, 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: you can also throw in doesn't really matter because we've 135 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: had this conversation before on this show about identities and 136 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: does an identity really matter? Do you have to have 137 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: an identity in order to be successful? Can you have 138 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: lots of identities and be successful in the NFL? But 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: I want to get your opinions on what you think 140 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: the identity of this team is. Let's start with you. Well, 141 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm just laughing because I know exactly who asked and 142 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: I know exactly why, because it stemmed from the Jalen 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Smith question or an answer from the other day when 144 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: he said that he had a big detailed answer. I 145 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: don't really know what the identity of a team is, 146 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think honestly I don't think that I've 147 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have really had a real identity other than 148 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: those couple of years where they were running the ball 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: real well. But when you're eight and eight, I mean, 150 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: what is your identity, Well, you're seven to nine, nine 151 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: and seven. I mean it's that you're an inconsistent team. 152 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: You don't do something so well that you can overcome 153 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: it every week. So you're just inconsistent. If that's the identity, 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: then that's what it is. But I don't really think 155 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: there is one other than the fact that I don't 156 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: know what the hell this team is going to do 157 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: each week. That's what it is. So I don't have 158 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: no I don't have an answer either. I don't blame 159 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: McCarthy for not having an answer because I don't have one. 160 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, you can point across the 161 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: board offense and defense. I don't think they have one. 162 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean we've made jokes all season, like you know, 163 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: you think about I go to Brian Flores in Miami, 164 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: like he comes from the New England school. He's like, 165 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna have two great man corners, We're gonna pressure 166 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback, blah blah blah, or you know, Chris Richard, 167 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: everybody that's tied to Pete Carroll's tree, Like we're gonna 168 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: play cover three, We're gonna rally and tackle Rod Marin. 169 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what Mike Nolan, Like, what's 170 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan hang his hat on? What does he do? 171 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: You know? What were they trying to do that defensively? 172 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: And it just didn't work because they didn't have notablement 173 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: it didn't have the players. But that will, that would. 174 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: But even like even before we knew how bad the 175 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: defense was gonna be, it was kind of like, well, 176 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: what's the front like? Or how many? How many downlinement? 177 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: Like what's DeMarcus Lawrence gonna do? Well, what's the what's 178 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that look like? And like we never got great answers 179 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: even before the season started. And then I think you 180 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: can even you can pull back and really take a 181 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: macro look, And I honestly, I think it's kind of 182 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: troubling because this team probably needs to figure out what 183 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: its identity is. Like you think about the Dak Prescott situation, 184 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: like you're gonna pay him, Like do you think that 185 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is the key to your successor or is 186 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott the quote unquote straw that stirs the drink. 187 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: That's a quote from ownership. By the way, you're paying 188 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: him fifteen million dollars a year, Like, are you like 189 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta get back to smash mouth, ground 190 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and pound. Zeke is the key to our success or 191 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: is it? Like you know, Seattle went through this recently. 192 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: Let Russ Cook like that took over the league in 193 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: the early part of the season. Are you gonna channel 194 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: this team through Dak Prescott? What about the defense You're 195 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: other than DeMarcus Lawrence behind him, Like the most expensive 196 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: parts of your defense are probably two linebackers, Jalen who 197 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: you paid and Layton who's a first round pick. That 198 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: says something to me like we're gonna be physical, We're 199 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: gonna stop the run. Our linebackers are gonna fly over 200 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the field. That really hasn't been happening. So your resources 201 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: are invested in guys that aren't probably doing what you 202 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: would prefer. So like, that's that is all stuff that 203 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I think they need to figure out because I don't 204 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: think they know what their identity is and they have 205 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of resources invested in different guys where there's 206 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: confusion about what this team's key to successes. I feel 207 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: like I'm rambling, but it's good. It's good, I think, 208 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that is a big thing to 209 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: figure out in twenty twenty one, is like what do 210 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: you what do you want this team to be and 211 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: who are the guys that are going to get you there? 212 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: Like is it Dac, is it Zeke in the O line, etc. Bucky. 213 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that in listening to you guys 214 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: talk about it, there doesn't seem to be a clear 215 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: vision for who this team is and what they're about. 216 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: And I would say that's a major problem because when 217 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: we talk about some teams, you can close your eyes 218 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: and know exactly what the team is like when they 219 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: come into the building. You talk about Pittsburgh, you know 220 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a hard nosed, physical football team that's 221 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna get after you. You talk about Baltimore, they're gonna 222 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: be a ground and pound offense and a physical, aggressive defense. 223 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Even if thinking about Seattle, they are having the toughest 224 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: time with letting Russ Cook because Carroll's identity is we 225 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: want to run the football and play great defense. When 226 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: I think about the Cowboys, I don't know, and to me, 227 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: that's a problem because great teams, great franchises, from the 228 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: top down, ownership all the way down, you know exactly 229 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: what the brand is. And in my mind, in the past, 230 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys have won successfully, it was about the 231 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: grounding pound with Zeke, the offensive line, the defense, running 232 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: and playing hard and doing those things. Right now, they're 233 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: in transition and I don't know if Mike McCarthy really 234 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: knows what exactly he wants, and he needs to figure 235 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: that out because it's hard to get players to buy 236 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: into a vision that is not clearly articulated on a 237 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: daily basis. And I think that has been part of 238 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: the up and down nature of the team because they 239 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: don't know what they're about, and I think that needs 240 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: to be cleared up. And Jalen Smith's answer was really 241 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: a long, verbose answer that really said nothing to me 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: when I looked at it, you know. And that's that's 243 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: where that question came from today, because Jalen said it 244 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the other day when I asked him just about about, 245 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, the win and all that, and he said, 246 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: we have found our identity. We got to keep focusing 247 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: on that. And then I asked him, okay, what is 248 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: the team's identity. He said, the identity is an electric 249 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: ass offense, an offense that when they're rolling, no one 250 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: can stop them. We got three to four to five guys. 251 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: You can throw the ball around multiple guys. So he 252 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: kind of rambles there, and then he says, on defense, 253 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: it's about toughness, it's about stopping the run, it's about 254 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: getting off the field on third down. We got guys 255 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: that know how to rush the pastor we've got to 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: give them opportunity, and that's up to me and the 257 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: rest of the linebackers. We got to continue to fight. Man, 258 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: the secondary is doing a hell of a job. They 259 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: got a rhythm, they've got a clear understanding. We just 260 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: got to stay patient. There's one game left, so I 261 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: don't know about that, but we've got to keep working 262 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: on ourselves individually and as a team. Very thankful for 263 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: our fan base for continuing to ride with us. Man. 264 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: This guy, his attitude is just amazing. He loves the 265 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: fans and they what he gave you right there was 266 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: was their mission statement. Like that's inspirational. That's what they 267 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: want to be. I don't know that they are that, 268 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: but that's what they want to be and to be 269 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: honest with you. I think, in all fairness, that's like 270 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: a mission statement. This is what we want to be, right, 271 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: But that's just not what they have been so far. 272 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: And I will say this, I give a little bit 273 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: of deference to McCarthy and the coaching staff because I 274 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: do think they went into this year with an idea 275 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: of what they thought their identity would be. I thought, 276 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: I think they probably thought this offense was gonna be 277 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: a very dynamic offense that was gonna put up a 278 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: ton of points. I think defensively, they wanted to be 279 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a multifront defense that could morph based upon their opponent. 280 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: And I think what they found out this year is 281 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: on defense, either they don't have the right components or 282 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: they didn't have the right amount of time in order 283 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: to implement that and make themselves become that um. And 284 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: I think on offense, they lost a quarterback and so 285 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: they didn't get a chance to really realize what they 286 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: expected their identity to be on either offense or defense. 287 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, isn't an 288 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: identity is just the thing that you feel really confident 289 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you can do no matter what right, And they lost 290 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: the pieces that let them do that on offense, and 291 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: we probably need a whole show to get into why 292 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: the defense didn't achieve that either. But they don't have 293 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: that right now, Like neither side of the ball has 294 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: a thing where it's like, no matter what, we can 295 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: do this, they don't have that. Sorry, Buck, I do 296 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: think I think looks it has to be very clear 297 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: and concise who you are. Like it can be that 298 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: mission statement that Derek is alluded to that you guys 299 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: are saying, It can be a seventy word quote that 300 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: Jalen throws out. It has to be very clear because 301 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: even without deck, if you're a tough, hard nosed, physical 302 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: football team, that has nothing to do with your personnel. 303 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: That has everything to do with the mentality that everybody 304 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: on the team has to have. And so if you 305 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: talk about our guys are tough, hard nosed and competitive, 306 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: then you should be able to see that regardless of 307 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: how you have to play, you can be a tough 308 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: team and still have to throw it around the yard 309 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: because your players exhibit that. And so I think this 310 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: is one where Jerry Jones, the personnel staff, the coaching staff, 311 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: everybody has to get in the room and say, this 312 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: is who we are and the people that we bring 313 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: into the organization they need to have these traits and 314 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: then we'll figure out how we play. But this is 315 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: who this team is. Yeah, you know. It actually reminds 316 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: me of Bill Parcells when he was here. I remember 317 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: him talking a lot about the fact that he wanted 318 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: tough and smart players, and he was like it was 319 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: it was very important to him to have smart players. 320 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: I've heard the same thing about New England, like they're 321 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: very they put a premium on smart players because what 322 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: they ask them to do requires guys that aren't just 323 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: like we're not just gonna tell you to line up 324 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: and run to the ball like they're gonna be. You're 325 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to be smart and you're gonna have to 326 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: be able to adapt and so be Having smart players 327 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: is very important. That gets back to like, do you 328 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: know what your identity is? Do you know what kinds 329 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: of players you typically bring in that help make your 330 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: program work? And I would assume I would assume knowing 331 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Will McClay, I would assume he has that and he 332 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: understands like what they're looking for and what they're trying 333 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: to create. I just don't know if it's translating on 334 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: the field, that maybe the biggest problem here. That's why 335 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: you don't change coaches every two or three years. You know, 336 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: people people, You got to build some relationship between the 337 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff and the scouts, you know, I mean, because 338 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Will McClay can have what he wants this team to 339 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: happen if the coaches aren't going to coach him. I'm there. 340 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: You know. I thought when I think about that, I 341 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: think about Rob Marinelli and Anthony Hitchins because I remember 342 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins was considered a reach pick fourth round. But 343 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly the guy that Marinelli wanted. A thumper, a 344 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: guy that was a smart player and he was agile, 345 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: but he could he could go and hit tough, big 346 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: ten linebacker. It's what he wanted. And the other you know, 347 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: I just remember some of the medias like you could 348 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: have got him in the sixth round, Well, I don't 349 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: want him in the sixth round, picking him right now, 350 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: and he was a really good player. And so I 351 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: just think that's an example of you know who what 352 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: you're coaching staff wants, and that's why you need to 353 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: build They need to build chemistry. That's why going to 354 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl matters. That's why going to the combine, 355 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: these coaches and scouts te to kind of get together 356 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: and really feel what each other is gonna want when 357 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: they go in and they try to pick Yeah, when 358 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned continuity to me, but hey, hey, ned, but Nick, 359 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: you say something? You saying something that really makes a 360 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: lot of sense, And without being there, I can't really tell. 361 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: Is Mike McCarthy able to clearly articulate exactly what he 362 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: wants from the players on his team? And can he 363 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: tell Will McClay, here's the kind of guys that I 364 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: want on my team, Derek. When you talk about Bill 365 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Parcels being able to say I want smart, tough, physical 366 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: football players, well, when you are able to define it 367 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: like that as a scout, I can go and get 368 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: you those guys. But if the head coach is wavering 369 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: in terms of what I want, it makes it very 370 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: very difficult to build a team that has a brand 371 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and an identity. And so some of this will be 372 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has to stand up to everybody and say 373 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: here's what I want, this is the kind of guy 374 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: I need, this is a team that we're going to 375 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: be and then Jerry Jones and everybody else has to say, Okay, 376 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: we're on board. This is the kind of organization and 377 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: team that we're gonna have. That's a very good point 378 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: because it reminds reminds me of what I've heard scouts 379 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: say about Jason Garrett. He never made up his mind 380 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 1: like that happened a lot. Yeah, he would be like, 381 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: I want this guy, want this guy. And there's there's 382 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: a funny story about you know, I'm taking a running 383 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: back one time when he was just like they wanted 384 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: to Mircol Murray. They're gonna take to Mircael Murray one 385 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: hundred percent Murray, he's the guy. And all of a 386 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: sudden it gets the pick comes up and then Jason 387 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: searchs wavering a little bit about Stephen Ridley from LSU, 388 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: like do we take him? Do we not? And all 389 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden and it's like, you know that they 390 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: were pissing off everybody. It's like this talk about talked 391 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: about this, and I think that happened a lot. So 392 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: I think what you're saying, BUCkies is important. That's the 393 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: coaches really need to figure that out with their scouts, 394 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: and you know, they haven't had a lot of time 395 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: with that either scouts aren't even in the building. Yeah, 396 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. It goes back to what you 397 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: said Nick about contuity. Like I think if you look 398 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: at the team in the NFL that represents this best 399 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: that you would think anybody that watches the NFL, you 400 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: ask them this team and they'll tell you exactly what 401 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: the team's identity is. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I 402 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: don't think that's a coincidence that they've had the fewest 403 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: number of coaches in the history of the NFL. Like, 404 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: they don't change coaches very often, and when they do, 405 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: they still keep their identity for some reason. Like that 406 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: defense for a long time had this one defensive coordinator 407 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: who was really great and they did a certain thing, 408 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: and when he left, that defense kept doing the same 409 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: thing and doing it exactly at the same level of confidence. 410 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Like they just know who they are and they continue 411 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: being who they are over decades. I think the job 412 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: interview for the Steelers head coach is like behind a 413 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: parking lot in a fight. You win the then you're 414 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: the coach, right, I ain't Bill Kawer could. It's a 415 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: cage match. Yeah, Like everybody got in the cave got 416 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: to win. I don't know about no, but I bet 417 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: he could whip some ass back back in the no 418 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: doubt about it. And and I mean I just don't 419 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: want Bill Cower just look. I mean he just was 420 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: like rush a quarterback every time. I just think of 421 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: that NFL films and he's like rush. So you just 422 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: have you're right, they have, They've done it the right way. Yeah. 423 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: Do you think the city of Pittsburgh would want him? 424 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: Me there if you if you weren't that well yeah, 425 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: and it fits like again, it also fits the city 426 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: like everything about That's why the works. That's why the 427 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: rivalry in the seventies was so great because all over 428 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: the world, not just Dallas in Pittsburgh, these are the 429 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: two great teams in the seventies. Pick your team wherever 430 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: you are. You're living in Carolina, there's no team at 431 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: the time. Pick a team, you know, do you want 432 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: to be this type of team or do you want 433 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: the good teams? And it all it was all perfect. Yeah, 434 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: it's all perfect. All right, we're gonna take our first break. 435 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: So no, I was gonna say that. And so there 436 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: is something too that, right, the Cowboys in my mind, 437 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: it's about the glitz and glam, the smart and the sophistication. 438 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: So in my mind, the brand is that it's smart, 439 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: it's glitzy, it's sophisticated, and if you're not dead, you 440 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: can't understand it. And so it's how can I take 441 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: that and articulated in football terms, So that would be multiplicity. 442 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: It would be smart players that can do a lot. 443 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Just think about those Tom Landry teams. It should never change. 444 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: That's how the Cowboys should be in my mind. Yeah, yeah, 445 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: as we sit in our glitzy, one hundred million dollar 446 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: building in Sorry, Like that's just what it is. That's 447 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: the brand. But my question, I think that the bigger 448 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: part to that is is that what the football team is. 449 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: Because in the nineties they got away with doing that. 450 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: They kick your butt on the field, but then they 451 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: come up to feel put on their minks like it 452 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: was it was they had the whole thing working and 453 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know that I don't know that they're 454 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: doing that now, Like they got some guys that love 455 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: to wear the minks. Now, I don't know if they're 456 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: kicking your butt on the field, that's the problem. All right, 457 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: we'renna take our first break. 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Place your order online for 502 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: pickup at AT and T Stadium every week this season. 503 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Check out check out the menu at A T T 504 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: stadium dot com slash at home. Okay, Dave, I got 505 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: a question for you. Okay, this will be the final 506 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: week that we will be doing the game. We will 507 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: be watching the game from here at the Star this 508 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: year on road games where you're at the Star, where 509 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: not at the We don't travel to games and nickte 510 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: anyone blessed enough to be able to do that? That 511 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: being said, I don't know. I don't know if it's 512 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: a blessing. That being said, first real problem said, we 513 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: always get food, bring food to the Star for everyone 514 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: to eat. Should we this week use food from the stadium, 515 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: bring it out to the Star and make that our food? Yes? Okay, good, perfect, 516 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't do a wonderful idea Rocks get on that. 517 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Can we get the Cowboy rita delivered or do we 518 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 1: have like you know, it's the final game, final, let's go, 519 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: let's park. Yes, go to the stadium and watch it 520 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: on the big board the way the radio team does. 521 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: That's actually they're long drive. It's not a long drive 522 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: for me Wednesday. You're talking about long drive. But you 523 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: want your food coming from there, they'll bring it, they'll 524 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah, No, it's an hour drive. I don't 525 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: want to do an hour drive. Good, but you want 526 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: to go an hour? Yeah, we'll make it work. Okay, Okay, 527 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: we'll work. That's good. All right. We got Bucky Brooks 528 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: joining us. He is from NFL Network and this segment 529 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: is presented by Texico with techron Bucky. Let's start first, Well, 530 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: we normally start what is the greatest strength and weakness 531 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: of this New York offense and particularly hone in on 532 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: things that may have changed since the last time the 533 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: Cowboys played them. I would say the biggest thing that 534 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: has changed has been the emergence of Wayne Gallman. Wayne 535 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: Goldman has kind of given them an explosive run in 536 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: the backfield. He has been creative and dynamic at certain points, 537 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: he has shown some toughness when they've given him an 538 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to grind it out, and so that has been 539 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. Now of late, they haven't been able 540 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: to score many points. They're still kind of struggling a 541 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: little bit when it comes to the passing game. Daniel 542 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: Jones is up and down. Some of it has been 543 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: due to injury, some of it is just part of 544 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: his matturation as a quarterback. And then they've had to 545 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: deal with injuries. So you've seen Colt McCoy in the lineup, 546 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: You've seen Daniel Jones in the lineup, and so they 547 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: just haven't had the consistency and coninuity at quarterback and 548 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: that has impacted the way that they're able to move 549 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: the ball. But they still have some good players. Darius 550 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Slayton is still someone that you have to pay attention to, 551 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: but really it's about Wayne Goldman, It's about Darius Slayton 552 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: and then contributions from other guys. But it's a very 553 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: inconsistent offense. Bucky. You know, the Cowboys actually ironically did 554 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: a pretty good job with Jalen Hurtz's running ability. But 555 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: I think would all agree that a running quarterback. It 556 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: could be problematic for this team. We saw Lamar Jackson 557 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: give them fits. Daniel Jones. His injuries have all been 558 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: leg related. I think he has an ankle and a hamstring, 559 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: and I'm just curious, Will does he have his mobility 560 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: like can't? I mean, you know, he's deceptively athletic. He 561 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: had that eighty yard run against Philly earlier in the season. 562 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, does he have that part of his game 563 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: at this point with the injuries that he's been dealing with. 564 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he still can move around, but he's limited, right, 565 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: he had to hamstring. Then he's has some lower leg 566 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: injuries that have prevented him from being as dynamic as 567 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: he was earlier in the season. But he's still someone 568 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: that you have to pay attention to. He still has 569 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: the ability on occasion to pour the ball on his 570 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: own read to make you defend all eleven on the field, 571 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: and so you have to be mindful of that. You 572 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: still have to be very disciplined when it comes to 573 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: defending those plays. But he's certainly not the Lamar Jackson type. 574 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: He's not hurts in terms of what you come in 575 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: thinking about spying and doing those things. But yeah, you 576 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: have to be aware of him and him pulling the 577 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: ball out the backfield. And also because of the nature 578 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: of this game, the winner go home nature of the game, 579 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: you have to be prepared for anything. And I think 580 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: if you're the Giants and you've been struggling putting points 581 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: on the board, I think this is when Jason Garrett 582 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: has to dig deep into his bag of tricks and 583 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: utilize every possible concept that he can use to see 584 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: if he can put some points on the board. So 585 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: I would be prepared for Daniel Jones to be moping 586 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: and active on a perimeter, still pissed off that he 587 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: ran a fleet flicker and he didn't do it for 588 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: ten years while he was here. I hope he does 589 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: it Sunday just for you. I was gonna I was 590 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna piss you up. I was about to say, like, 591 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: does Jason Garrett have a bag of tricks? Like is 592 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: that thing? Is that a thing that might be this week? 593 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: I think I think Jason Garrett, like outside of the 594 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: box is putting Jordan Lewis on like a fly sweep, 595 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, putting him. That's my point. Yeah, Like Jason 596 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Garrett's like, we gotta dig deep, guys, we're gonna do 597 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: an end around Like that's okay, Thanks jakeson real hardcount. 598 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: My question to you, Bucky, is is Evan Ingram the 599 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith of the Giants, the guy that you're like, 600 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: great talent, you think you think he's gonna do this, 601 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: one minute, does this, and then he's just a kind 602 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: of a head scratching like what is he like? Is he? 603 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: Is he good? That's that's what I'm asking. Is he good? 604 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: I know he's going to the Pro Bowl, but is 605 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: he good? I would say, I would say he's talented, 606 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they've really figured out the 607 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: key to unlocking what he could be at the next level. 608 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: And I think really getting a tied in loose and 609 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: making him productive is a challenge and it takes a 610 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: creative play call to do it. When you look at 611 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, you look at Darren Waller, their play calls 612 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: do great things by play design to make sure that 613 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: they get those matchups. I don't know if Jason Garrett 614 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: has done a good enough job of trying to create 615 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: those opportunities for Evan Ingram in terms of on his 616 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: playsheets saying I have ten different plays that are designed 617 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: specifically to get him the rock. I don't know if 618 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: he operates like that. Now that's it. Who knows one 619 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: game scenario. He may look at the matchups and say, 620 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: I like Evan Ingram on Jaylen Smith or the safety 621 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: dropping down Donovan Wilson, and let's see if we can 622 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: find a way to get them open. It just hasn't 623 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: happened to this point. And some of that is on 624 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: play call of some of that is on Evan Ingram 625 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: not cashing him on certain opportunities, and some of that 626 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: is the quarterback not being able to get the ball 627 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: to him consistently. All right, Bucky, let's talk a little 628 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: bit about this New York Giant run offense. They ran 629 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: the ball really well while they were on their four 630 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: game win streak Versus teams with weaker rush defenses, as 631 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: you would probably call the Cowboys. They average one hundred 632 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: sixty two yards per games, and that the one hundred 633 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: and ninety yard rushing day against Seattle. How susceptible based 634 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: on what you've seen from Dallas's defense over the last 635 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: several weeks, where it seems like they've been at least 636 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: marginally better against the run. How susceptible are or is 637 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Dallas to getting dashed by the run? Game from New York, Well, 638 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I think can go back to the first game. I 639 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: think I sat here and talked about, Oh, they don't 640 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: have any weapons, I don't know how they can move 641 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: the ball, And then we looked at the game DeVante 642 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: Freeman was running up and down the field. And so 643 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: I think the first thing the Giants are going to 644 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: do is they're going to test them with the old 645 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: game plan and see if the Cowboys have answered the 646 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: problems that presented themselves in that game. And then they're 647 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: going to look at some of the success that the 648 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: Washington football team had, some of the sets that the 649 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens have had, and they're going to try within 650 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: the framework of their offense to see if the Cowboys 651 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: have resolved those issues, and if they hadn't, they will 652 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: get a steady dose of those kinds of plays. Now. 653 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: If Dallas is able to stop the run early in 654 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: the game the first and second quarter, within the Jason 655 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: move on and try and do something else and try 656 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: and find another way to move the ball down the field. 657 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: But I do believe this is going to be a 658 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: game where the Giants really test them with the running game, 659 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: and I think Joe Judge is going to implore David 660 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett to be disciplined and patient with the run 661 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: game and see if they can wear them down as 662 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: long as their def can keep the Cowboys offense under control. Yeah, 663 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: real quick. As a follow up question, you saw it 664 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: last week against the Eagles. They put up one hundred 665 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: and fifty yards on the ground. My personal belief is 666 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: at the Eagles of abandon the run too early, like 667 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: they were having success, and in the second half they 668 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: didn't do it as much. Is that how you saw it? 669 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Do you think the Dallas defense gave them reason to 670 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: abandon it because they felt like at some point they 671 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: couldn't really run as effectively. No. I think Doug Peterson 672 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: just got bored with the running game decided he wanted 673 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: to throw it all over the yard. The running game 674 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: was very effective, Miles Sanders was having success, Jalen Hurst 675 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: was having success, and so it comes down to are 676 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: you patient enough to continue to test the Cowboys run 677 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: defense over time? And if Jason Garrett and Joe Judge 678 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: are smart, that's what they would do, because I think 679 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: in this game. For the Giants, they just want to 680 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: get this game into the fourth quarter and see if 681 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will unravel on defense and also offensively, because 682 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: we've seen that happen during the middle of the season. 683 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: We've seen that happen at times, and so if I'm 684 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, I want to call a very conservative game 685 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: as long as their defense is holding up, to see 686 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: if we can get it in the fourth quarter, and 687 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: then let's just make it a fifteen minute battle and 688 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: see if the turnovers and the mistakes will show up 689 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: under pressure. Win. It's really the biggest game of the year. Yeah, 690 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: I think Jason can probably handle that for you. I 691 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: think Bucky just described the Jason Garrett, let's get let's 692 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: play conservative and get this into the fourth quarter. That's 693 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: what he does. At um. I mean, we're talking so much. 694 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: It's true, we're talking so much about this run game, 695 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: and it makes me wonder. I mean, you know, the 696 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: Giants offensive line has been viewed as a week spot 697 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: for years at this point, and you know they famously 698 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, they fired Mark Colombo a month or two ago. 699 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: You know, who knows what actually happened there. But I mean, 700 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: has that sparked him. Is Andrew Thomas playing like a 701 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: top five pick all of a sudden? Where where is 702 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: this coming from? That they have the offensive line to 703 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: be able to grig things out on the ground like this. 704 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean like they've been very inconsistent in what you had. 705 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: In the bigger issue that you had with the Giants, 706 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: you had two differing philosophies. You had Joe Judge who 707 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: was coming from the New England Patriots system and how 708 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: they block things and how they answered certain problems that 709 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: would come up in pass protection and in the running game. 710 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: And then you had Jason Garrett and Mark Colombo who 711 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: had a different view on those things, and sometimes things 712 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: would get lost in translation when it came to communication, 713 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: how you want to handle things, and some of the 714 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: techniques that were taught. They've cleaned it up. They've been 715 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: a little more detailed, and they've had some success running 716 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: it because they really didn't have a choice with who 717 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: they had at quarterback, so they just stubbornly kept running 718 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: it and had a little level of success. And so 719 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: that's been the bigger thing. I can't sit here and 720 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: say that the Giants of all of a sudden, mashing 721 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: folks and moving people off the ball is just that 722 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: in the games that they were very successful, they either 723 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: popped a big run early or they were very very 724 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: disciplined and committed to running the football. And so a 725 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: lot of it will be determined on how are the 726 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys get a permitted to play. So when Jaylee Smith 727 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: talks about being tough and physical in those things, well, 728 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys are on their p's and ques, then 729 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: this will be the most physical game because they know 730 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: the only way that jas can really manufacture points is 731 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: if they're able to run the ball and dictate the terms. 732 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: That way where they got to make the top priority 733 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: just stopped to run and dare Daniel Jones to beat 734 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: them through on the rock? All right? Beck, Yeah, I'm 735 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: tired of the Giants offense. I can't do it anymore. 736 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: They scored eight points a game the last three weeks. 737 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't have any other questions for you. I'm gonna 738 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: go to their defense, Cowboys defense. And you said and 739 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: in your story that's coming out on maybe on the 740 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: website now five bucks. Do you think Randy Gregory could 741 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: be a star in the making. Can you elaborate on 742 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: that a little bit? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely, because when I 743 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: look at Randy Gregory, and I'm gonna say this, like 744 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: everyone was very excited about Alden Smith and what Alden 745 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: Smith did early, Randy Gregory has surpassed Alden Smith in 746 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: terms of his disruption and play. The first thing that 747 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: stands out from Randy Gregory is and he is on 748 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: the field. He is going one hundred miles an hour 749 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline his effort and energy and my estimation 750 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: is infectious. I think it makes a difference because he's 751 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: disruptive and even though they have him on what I 752 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: would consider a limited pitch count, you look at what 753 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: he's been able to do. Twelve quarterback hits, three forced fumbles, 754 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: three and a half sacks, and limited action. He is 755 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: coming on like gamebusters and he has been the compliment 756 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: that they desperately needed opposite of de Marcus Lawrence. And 757 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: so when I look at what the Cowboys could be 758 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: presented not only this year but next year, sign signing 759 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: him to the extension was smart because I think they're 760 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: going to have to make a decision with Alden Smith 761 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: on whether they want to pay to retain him. I 762 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: think if it gets out of their price range. I 763 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: think they very easily constid with Randy Gregory provided he 764 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: has continued to do all the things off the field 765 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're good. We don't have to reach 766 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: in the draft to get a pass rusher. We don't 767 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: have to overpay for someone that we still may be 768 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: iffy on. Randy Gregory can be the play that we 769 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be when we took him 770 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: from Nebraska. All Right, we're gonna tack our final break 771 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: when we come back. We'll talk a little bit about 772 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: this Dallas defense and some specific things that happened in 773 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: the last game and how it may translate into this 774 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: next upcoming game against the Giants. Will do that when 775 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: we come back. 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They got Christmas deals up to 813 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: fifty percent off for every fan. Visit your local Dallas 814 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys Pro Shop or shop Dallas Cowboys dot com for 815 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: your new gear today. If I had to choose a 816 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: player jersey right now, by I'm buying Gallup. I'm all 817 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: in on Gallup. That's risky, man, I don't care. I 818 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: don't like what it's like. I always telp it. I'm like, 819 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy a jersey until the guy had a 820 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: six year contract or if he just got drafted. That's 821 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: also assuming that you want to wear it for the 822 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: next twenty years, like I don't care about that. Just 823 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: be buying it for now, Okay, money bags, Like if 824 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: you're trying to if I'm spending one hundred plus on 825 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: a jersey, I want to know the guy's going to 826 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: be on the team for last two years, say how 827 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: bad it is this year? For I think it was 828 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving or something. I pulled down in jersey, brand 829 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: new jersey for my son, took the tags off. It 830 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: was DeMarcus Ware. I don't care, Like that's like, why not, 831 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: let's go. DeMarcus Ware's a ring of honor kind of guy. 832 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: That's that's true, true, But still like I mean, if 833 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: he's your guy, he's your guy, and I don't care 834 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: where he goes, where he plays or if he's still playing, 835 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: if he's your guy. Really, I went the other day 836 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: and there's on the clearance rack they had a bunch 837 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: of jersey of former players and stuff, and no, they 838 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: had like a like a forty beast league. I was like, oh, 839 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: game warn sorry, Oh he's doing big things though. Man, 840 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: no I got I got a lot of it. He's 841 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: doing his thing up there in Buffalo. You know, he 842 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: actually said, boy, what's going on in Buffalo? The camaraderie 843 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: and all this is nothing like well we had in 844 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: Dallas and then we were like, all right, cool. They 845 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: all say that it sounds like it's true though. It 846 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, they're building something really great over there, 847 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 1: and he's you know, they figured out a good way 848 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: to use him too, And not that Dallas didn't, it's 849 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 1: just that they've they've figured it out. It kind of works. 850 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: I think for his personality too. He doesn't seem like 851 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: the kind of guy that wants all the extra extra stuff. 852 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: And here in Dallas, as we talked about earlier as 853 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: a rap album man that we can use that term loosely, 854 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: but you you just gotta you know, in Dallas, you 855 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: gotta embrace all the extra attention. You gotta love the 856 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: extra That's why Dez works in Dallas is because you 857 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: gotta love the extra attention, because that's what Dallas is. 858 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna bring a lot of extra I believe that 859 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: Daz actually hurt Beasley. I really agree with that, because 860 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: Dez couldn't play in the slot and Beasley has to 861 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: play in the slot, and because Dez was, well, you 862 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: know that you need a guy that can play on 863 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: the outside and you know exactly where. But when when 864 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: Dez Dez couldn't be that guy all the time and 865 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: Beasley couldn't be on the outside. I don't think they 866 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: were great together for I will it's we talked about 867 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: that at the start of the week. It's just funny. 868 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't we don't have one hundred percent 869 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: know what we have in CD. I mean, like Nick's 870 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: the only one that's met him. He deft, Yeah, in 871 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: face to face for sure. Um, but it's weird. It's 872 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: like CD's got some of that to him, like CDs 873 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: you can tell. But Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper are 874 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: not that. And they're like stars for the Dallas Cowboys. 875 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: They are not the They're not glitzie. I mean I 876 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: actually think they actually like don't want all that. I 877 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: mean Amari loves to stunt with his like you like 878 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: outfits and stuff. You know, like he definitely has a 879 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: taste for high fashion, but he is not Dez Brian 880 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: in terms of just like wanting the spotlight on him 881 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: at all times. Yeah, all right, real quick, before we 882 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: end the show, I did want to talk a little 883 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: bit about this Dallas defense had a question for you guys. 884 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: In the first meeting, Dallas's defense allowed the second fewest 885 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: yards of any game this season. That was three hundred. 886 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: They had two hundred yards that they allowed in the 887 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: passing game, eighty nine in the rushing game. Why was 888 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: Dallas's defense so relatively successful against the Giants offense in 889 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: the first meeting and can they replace replicate that success. 890 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: Let's start first to you, Bucky. The Jazz didn't have 891 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: a lot of weapons, and so I think they're easier 892 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: to defend. But they're not a high powered unit. When 893 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: you look at their wide receiver corps golden toa sterling shepherd. 894 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: They don't really have anybody that scares you, and so 895 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: I think it's easier to tighten down and take chances 896 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that you can stop the run when 897 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: you don't have anyone that is someone in meetings that 898 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: you have to stand up and say, hey, this guy 899 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: can really hurt us. And so I just think it's 900 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: the lack of talent that they have that enabled the 901 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys to really corral that that offense day. Yeah, I 902 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: mean they don't have se Quon you know, their offensive 903 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: line has been inconsistent all year. Evan Ingram Evan Ingram, 904 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: we should be talking about him, is like that guy 905 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: just kills the Cowboys, you know, like he should be 906 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: but he's not for whatever reason. Don't really kill anybody. Yeah, no, yeah, 907 00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: he's yeah, Which that's that's a different conversation. But makes 908 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: you wonder about Kyle Pitts, who is the guy that 909 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about, is like maybe fitting into 910 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys draft slot, like drafting a guy like that 911 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: in the first round and is a risky proposition. Um. Anyway, 912 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram's not that guy. They don't have se quon lines, Like, 913 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: they just don't have anybody that scares you. And it's 914 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: not completely their fault because of injuries. Um, but it does. 915 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: That's why I asked about the offensive line because between 916 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: Gallman and if the offensive line can play well enough 917 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: that they can run, I think that changes things because 918 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean we've you know, if you can run the 919 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: ball against the Cowboys, you have a good chance to win. 920 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: And he has been better. I think he is better 921 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: now than he was early in the season with the 922 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys facing Nick Well. I don't know if I understand 923 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: the question, because I thought the Giants did move the 924 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: ball well. I think you're just comparing it. I believe 925 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: the Giants scored like two defensive touchdowns in that first game, too, right, didn't. 926 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they picked they like they picked 927 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: off they picked six dack, I know that. Yeah, And 928 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: I think they scored another defensive touch or may maybe 929 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: they got themselves to the dead of wins. Yeah, I 930 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: can't remember. It was like it was like a ricochet 931 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: off of somebody's hands. I think, oh, here you talk. Look, Yeah, 932 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, the black back. And again this 933 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: is all relative. They gave up three hundred yards of offense, 934 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: Like that's not a huge day, and and the Cowboys 935 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: have been giving them a lot more than that, so relatively, 936 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: it's it was one of their better games as far 937 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: as the yards that they were getting able on the 938 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: ground and in the air. Yeah, I just I think 939 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: they said, at best, the Giants just don't have anyone Nick. 940 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys had a couple of turnovers. One of them was 941 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: a fumble down there by Andy Dalton that they scored. 942 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: And then they I do remember that, right, So not 943 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: two defensive not two defensive touchdowns, um, but they had 944 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: one that set them up like right there inside them. 945 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: And then pick out. We were able to match that 946 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: one with Anthony Brown. So, um, you know, I mean 947 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't if it wasn't for Cam Fleming who was 948 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: not set right, they had a fake field goal touchdown. Yeah, 949 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: but to every ingram yeah. Um, and you know, so 950 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 1: that game could have been could have been different there. 951 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: I think I think Bucky said the winner go home. 952 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, mentality, it's just you pull out all the stops. 953 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: You see what you've got, you know. I mean Kellen 954 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: Moore needs to dip in his bag too, see see 955 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: what he's got, you know. I mean, and we have 956 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: seen something that we forget about it. But the first 957 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: play of the game that from the Cowboys. I'd never 958 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: seen that play before, had you. Well, everybody rolls right 959 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: and throws it way back to Mary Cooper. Oh no, yeah, 960 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that play. That's Kellen Moore has a 961 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: bag sometimes like he's gone a little too deep into 962 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: it at times this year. Probably, No, I don't. I 963 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: don't need this. Well, oh Bucky does. Buck, He's like, 964 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? You have a fifth 965 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: string offensive line? When but let me have the back, 966 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: let me have the bag, Give me your bag, put 967 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: your back down. Just just run it in run the balls. 968 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: You know you always hurt. But they need that. They 969 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: need a big fullback and they need to play in twine. 970 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: Would Gallimore gallenmore was quick somebody like that. They need 971 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: that guy on offense. His name is Blake Bell. I 972 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: know we got to see we got to see the 973 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: cool little sneak which is taking the lead by storm 974 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: now by the way, yeah, I mean the Cowboys weren't 975 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: the first ones to do it, but um, just like 976 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: until Dak is healthy, like he would be my goal 977 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: line guy. Like you're not stopping him from getting happening 978 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: yard You're not gonna do it, you know I don't. 979 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: And he's the dude played quarterback a lot, Like it's 980 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: not like he did this, like he played like he 981 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: started for ou for at least a year if not 982 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: like two. Like he can take a snap, give him 983 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: the ball, and here's that love to see happen. What 984 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: I would love to see happen is and this is 985 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,959 Speaker 1: what I don't think the Cowboys do a good job 986 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: of is take something and build off of it. So 987 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: the Blake Bill play with a haven't line up at 988 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: the center like now have him come back and instead 989 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: of faking it, I mean, instead of trying to do 990 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: a sneak, throw the ball over the top because the 991 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,479 Speaker 1: defense is gonna see him. Stop there, They're gonna all come. 992 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: There's gonna be somebody open. Throw it over the top 993 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: to a tight end and here we go, like I 994 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: just tebow specialty. You know, it's like build off a thing. 995 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: You know. You see the tight end going motion, just 996 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: like laterally go in motion in front of the quarterback. 997 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: As soon as he gets in front of the quarterback, 998 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: snapped to let him catch it. There are things you 999 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: can do with this, and Blake Bell is uniquely positioned 1000 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: to be able to play. He definitely is. We gave 1001 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: it more of a bad here, like stop it. We 1002 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: don't need more. Just give it to Zec and this 1003 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't be that complicated. All right, guys, appreciate you join us. 1004 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna talk more about this 1005 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: Giants team. We'll talk about their defense tomorrow versus the 1006 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. Till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Bucky Brooks, 1007 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow here live 1008 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: from the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This 1009 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 1010 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.