1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back in the hour of a three Clay Travis 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: We are rolling through. We're going to talk to Paul 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Morrow at the bottom of the hour, who has been 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: in the trial I believe in New York City, which 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: is starting to get a great deal of attention. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: First couple of hours. Here's what we've been talking about. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: The incredible productivity of Trump's trip to the Middle East, 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: analyzing everything associated with that, the continued fallout of the 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: cover up of Joe Biden's mental and physical deterioration, which 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: is now captivating the media in advance of the release 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: of the book Original Sin, which is going to tell 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: all of you all of the things that we have 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: been telling you for years but did tell you to 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: be fair, that all of this would come out in 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: the wake of the election, and that all of the 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: true stories about Biden's mental and physical decline behind closed 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: doors would in fact eventually go public. And that is 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: where we are as Democrats are unable to figure out 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: how to respond, and the CNNs and the MSNBC's of 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: the world, the journalists in quotation marks that are on 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: air at those networks. All of those individuals are now 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: scrambling to try to get out of the mess that 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: they have made themselves by now claiming, oh, it was 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 1: a cover up. Nobody could have known. But we've broken 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: down all of that big story. However, in the criminal 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: justice system New York City, it feels like has had 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: one big trial after another. They had the sham Trump prosecution, 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: both the civil case and then also the Alvin Bragg 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: case in New York City. We had the trial of 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: the subway hero who was charged with manslaughter, second degree murder. 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't even remember exactly what those charges were, but 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: he was found not guilty. We had the Menendez gold 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Bars trial, Senator Menendez and his wife both convicted in 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: New York City courts. And now we have got puff 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Daddy aka Didty aka Sean Combs. I think I'm just 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: gonna call him Ditty on the show because it's only 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: one word and it's easier and buck, you and I 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: were talking about this off air. This went mega viral. 40 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Everybody almost on the planet saw the twenty sixteen hotel 41 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: video of Diddy running out with the I think he 42 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: was still in a towel and beating up his girlfriend Cassie, 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: So background, if you have n't been following this case. 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: She filed a. 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Explosive civil lawsuit seeking monetary damages for what she claimed 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: was outrageous behavior perpetrated against her by Ditty in a 47 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: multi year consensual relationship. I believe they were boyfriend girlfriend 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: for a decade. Producer, Ali, I believe you have been 49 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: following this case somewhat closely too. So if I get 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: any of these facts wrong or you want to step 51 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: in and say, actually, Clay, that just I'm trying to 52 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: set the table for people who might not have been 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: following this. 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: It is a criminal trial. 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: Diddy had been housed with Sam Bankman Freed, among others, 56 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: that is, celebrities that were being held in this New 57 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: York City cell as they awaited trial. And so the 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: case has gone to trial. Did he faces potentially the 59 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: rest of his life in prison for sexual racketeering, basically 60 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: crossing state lines, prostitution allegations, all of these things. And 61 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck, I have been 62 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: reading everything that Cassie is testifying too, and based on 63 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: what I have seen, and by the way, eight hundred 64 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: two two eight A two, if any of you are 65 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: following this and want to weigh in as well. I 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: don't think that this is criminal behavior beyond a reasonable doubt. 67 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 3: Well that's my take, and you and I have talked 68 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: about it. I don't think you mind me sharing. It's grotesque, reprehensible, 69 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: and demonic behavior. But not a good dude. Not he's 70 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: a very bad person. Yes, he's a very bad person. 71 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: I know, judge not lest you be judged. Yeah, this 72 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: guy's a very bad person. But the criminal accounts that 73 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 3: they're going after him on. I tend to agree with Clay. 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: I am not sure that they are likely to get 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: beyond a reasonable doubt on them. And that's not to 76 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: say that he isn't horrible, But for example, beating a woman, 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: that's assault, it's disgraceful. Is that past the statute of 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: limited I'm talking about just the simple assault that we 79 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: saw on that's what they call it. That has passed 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: the that I believe in LA had passed the statute 81 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: of limitations. Yeah, and so is that? So then the 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: the violence counts that you could bring under other circumstances 83 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: are past the statual limitations. So this is why they've 84 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: gone for this Ricoh, operating a criminal conspiracy across state 85 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: lines prostitution thing, and the problem becomes very quickly, I 86 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: think for the prosecution here, uh, this is you know, 87 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: are these people who were being given lavish gifts and 88 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, rides on private jets but not in a 89 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: quid pro quo for sexual services situation? 90 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: Uh? 91 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: And then also was there any actual coerd like can 92 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: you prove coercion? You know, I don't want to not 93 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: be invited to the next party, for example, would not 94 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: be coercion, or you know, or or I don't want 95 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 3: to upset somebody who's a very powerful in my industry. 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't think that's criminal coercion. Do this or I'm 97 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: going to hit you or hurt you is coercion? Right, 98 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: So these are the Again I read up on this 99 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: a little bit this morning. I tend to not I'm 100 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: not a what's the what's the thing that everyone is 101 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: a true crime I'm not a big true crime guy 102 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: in general. But I would say this Clay to the 103 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: degree that this is of interest to our audience at all. 104 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: And we'll talk to Paul Mora, who is a true 105 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: crime guy because he worked as a deputy inspector, which 106 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: is just a couple of rungs below commissioner for the NYPD. 107 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: This is why this is so big. Puff Daddy was, 108 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: or Sean Combs formerly Puff Daddy then P Diddy, maybe 109 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: the biggest star in the hip hop world for about 110 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: a decade, I would say, and perhaps when hip hop 111 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: music was at its actual cultural peak. You could make 112 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: this is an argument. But I mean, I grew up 113 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: in a New York City. I mean, oddly enough, I 114 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 3: grew up next door to P Didty for a number 115 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: of years he lived, and I mean next door, Like 116 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: I used to see him on the street when I 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: was a high school kid. All the time. I would 118 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: see his entourage. I saw his baby blue Bentley convertible, 119 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: which was a very rare car, then parked out front 120 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: some of the biggest security guys you have ever seen 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: in your life standing around all the time. So I 122 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: mean I was very aware of of Shawn Combs at 123 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: the time. Clay, this guy was an absolute celebrated cultural 124 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: phenomenon for years by all the elites. I mean, you know, 125 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: I can't even begin If you're looking for photos, I'm 126 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: sure there's photos them with the Clintons, and I'm sure 127 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: there's photos of them with Anna Winter a vogue And 128 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: I mean, this guy was the absolute pinnacle of music 129 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: culture and entrepreneurial success for a number of years. But 130 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: people knew about some of this stuff. People knew that 131 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: there was very bad stuff going on in the background. 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: It's not dissimilar in some ways from Harvey Weinstein, right, 133 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Like everybody in Hollywood was like, oh, how could we. 134 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: Have known depending on these allegations being true or not, 135 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: or someone like an R. Kelly where there was also 136 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of smoke and fire as we found 137 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: out in that case. This case, well, this is where 138 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: you get into the parsing. 139 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: Right. 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: There's horrible behavior. There's grotesque behavior, which Shawn Combe is 141 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: absolutely I mean, this guy should have should like be 142 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: completely expelled from public life. 143 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: And no matter what happens to this strial. 144 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: What he did is the the abuse of women and 145 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: the the just the grotesque behavior, and that is a 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: matter of public record that he does not dispute. He 147 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: just disputes that these things violated the law. Things that 148 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: we really can't talk to you about on radio, like 149 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: it would get it would get into that it's inappropriate. 150 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: And also you don't really need to hear it. 151 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: But it's about as grotesque as you can imagine sexual stuff, 152 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: more grotesque, I think than a lot of you can imagine. 153 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: But I just think it's it's another moment here, Clay 154 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: where how many of these like cultural icons so you 155 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: know in quotes, right, So it's I mean he was 156 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: for a while, are able to get away with horrific 157 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: I mean you look at you look at this stuff 158 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: against Cosby, you look at r. Kelly, you look at 159 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: Harvey Weinstein. I mean you know, and I'm not leaving 160 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: out anyone on purpose, right, and you go, you know, 161 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: the allegations again Michael Jackson, whether one believes them or not, 162 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: is a whole other thing. These are some of the 163 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: biggest people in our culture, and people around them knew 164 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: that weird or deeply criminal stuff was going on, and 165 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: no one comes forward, no one says anything for years, 166 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: for decades. 167 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: What does that say? 168 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: Well, the only reason this is public now is because 169 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: Cassie filed the lawsuit. So if I were analyzing this 170 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: from a legal perspective, I have no idea why he 171 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: didn't settle the lawsuit, as he had an opportunity to 172 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: do before it went public, because the minute that it 173 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: went public, I think he settled for eight figures ten 174 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: million dollars or more within a day of the lawsuit 175 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: being public. So what did he What did his legal 176 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: team not see here? Because essentially the charges that are 177 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: brought against him entirely come out of the civil complaint 178 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: that she filed. But here's my thing. And look, there's 179 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: a jury of twelve that's going to decide eight men 180 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: for women based on the opening of the prosecution's case. 181 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they have proven that he committed a 182 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Now, my big takeaway if 183 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: I were sitting on the jury is this, she dated 184 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: him for a decade. I'm not saying again to your 185 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: point that he didn't engage in a lot of bad behavior. 186 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: Bad behavior is not necessarily criminal, And if you were 187 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: dating someone for a decade, it's hard for me to 188 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: argue that you were coerced into behavior for a full decade. 189 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: You could have left, right. I know you agree with that. 190 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: I do think it's necessary to just bad behavior is like, 191 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, stepping out on your wife or something. 192 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: Okay, like that's bad behavior. 193 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: This guy was engaged systematically for years and years in demonic. 194 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody should listen to his music ever again, 195 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: or be seen with him in public ever again. Behavior. 196 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: And that's not even the criminal stuff. I just mean 197 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: the stuff that he's admitted to. 198 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: Okay, And remember he said publicly that he couldn't vote 199 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: for Trump because of allegations about Trump's behavior, which is 200 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: just hysterical on so many levels, because even the worst 201 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: things that have been said about Trump are a pinprick 202 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: of what has been alleged in this trial that he 203 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: was involved in. Right, So there's a lot of this 204 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Hollywood finger wagging related to Trump that has been do 205 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: as I say, not as I myself have done. Having 206 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: said all of that, I don't understand what the actual 207 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: crime here is beyond a reasonable doubt that he is 208 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: guilty of based on the first few days of it. 209 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: The trial is underway, and we'll talk to Paul Marr 210 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: about that. I will tell you that Clay has been 211 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: known for a long time, and again I think as 212 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: a New Yorker at the time who lived next door 213 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: to him, I was particularly aware of the reporting on this. 214 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: You know, there was a whole incident with a with 215 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: a gunfire at a nightclub and it was alleged that 216 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: it was it was his gun and he tried to 217 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: pay off a guy in the entourage. 218 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there. 219 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: Are widely believed and you know, known stories of him 220 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: violently assaulting and threatening other music producers and record executives 221 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: and you know, in their offices. I think he beat 222 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: a guy with a wine bottle and he had to 223 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: go to the hospital. I mean, he got away with 224 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: this stuff for a long time. Yes, it's because he 225 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: was powerful, But also I think that I think that 226 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: prosecutors didn't want to bring down an icon. I don't 227 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: think that they wanted her to go after somebody who 228 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: was found a self made billionaire from the black community 229 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: who was being held up as an incredibly important and 230 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: powerful cultural figure. I think he got a pass for 231 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: a long time on a lot of criminal stuff. I mean, 232 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: just look at the hotel camera stuff that didn't come 233 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: out until now. Well, he was found not guilty on 234 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: the shooting charges, and the guy who he was with 235 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: went to prison for years and basically said, hey, I 236 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: took the rod. That the whole point was that he 237 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: got paid you know, the whole story was that he 238 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: got paid off to do that. 239 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: But this story I don't think is gonna go away. 240 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it at the bottom of the hour 241 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: as it is currently underway. And if there were cameras, 242 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: this would be like the Johnny Depp amber heard story. 243 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: That is just you can't So Lawyer Clay is very 244 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: honed in on and we'll talk to Paul Morrow about 245 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: this as well. From the investigator and law enforcement standpoint 246 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: in a few minutes. Glora Clay is very honed in 247 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: on the legal the legality or illegality of the situation, 248 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: which makes perfect sense. It's funny. I just can't get beyond, 249 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: and we as a country should be a shame that 250 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: we hold people like this up. 251 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: Ever, honestly, you know. 252 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: There should really be some soulser And for a lot 253 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: of you are like, oh, I don't listen to if 254 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: you grew up in you know, from nineteen ninety four 255 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: until like I want to say, the year two thousand, 256 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: Sean P. Diddy Combs. You know you're hearing this song. 257 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: You're hearing his music everywhere. He's at the Empty you know, 258 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: the MTV Music Awards, he's at the you know v Age, 259 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: you know all the different what are you called the Grammys, 260 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: and he's at all these things. 261 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: He's held up. He is the toast of the town. 262 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: And the guy is a horrible human being. I mean really, 263 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: and people knew about it and they just didn't say anything. 264 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: A billionaire. 265 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: He's a billionaire now, not just you know, somewhat successful, 266 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: legitimately a billionaire. 267 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, look, I want I'm going to talk 268 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: about something else that can really help you. It's amazing. 269 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: I'm coming up on fifteen years in the media business 270 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: after leaving the CIA. And it's funny because I'm a 271 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: long time gold holder. Somebody who has had gold. I've 272 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: been a believer in having gold for the long haul 273 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: for a long time, and I've just purchased some more 274 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: gold recently. But I want to just walk you through 275 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: a few things. Every thinking you're like, oh, well Trump's 276 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: got the economy things, Okay, yeah, you're not holding gold 277 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: for six months. The idea is to build gold reserves 278 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: over time to prepare for uncertainty and the economy down 279 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: the line. But also look at the value increases of gold. Okay, 280 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: gold is now more than thirty two hundred dollars an ounce. 281 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: That is a huge increase in value. Okay, if you 282 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: look at what gold has done in recent years, it 283 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: has been going up and up and up, and it's 284 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: the best hedge that anyone's thought of against inflation and 285 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: a weakening dollar, which is still a major challenge, a 286 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: major problem. Diversifying into gold now is easier than ever. 287 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: And if you just look, Okay, when I first diversified 288 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: my all cash savings account and purchased some gold, the 289 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: price of gold was just over two thousand dollars an ounce. 290 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: Today that same gold is more than thirty two hundred 291 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: dollars an ounce, a sixty percent increase in value. 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First 318 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: of all, here's podcast listener Liz ff. 319 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I love the show. Listen every day. Hey. 320 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: As far as going to the grocery store and not 321 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: finding what you need or getting the wrong thing, it 322 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: does go both ways. I never go to the parts 323 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: store for my husband unless he calls ahead first and 324 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: gets the part ordered that he wants for me to 325 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: pick up. 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Great to have you back on the show, sir. 362 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: Great to be with you guys. 363 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: All right, so I know it's early stages. 364 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: You might have heard a little bit of what we were 365 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: talking about before with the Sean Combs trial. 366 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: A lot of. 367 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: Really grotesque stuff, salacious stuff that is considered I think 368 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: a matter of fact and public record now on both sides. 369 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: But is it going to be able to be proven 370 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: beyond a reasonable doubt that it is criminal? 371 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: What are you seeing so far? 372 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: How are you viewing the likelihood of well, whichever outcome 373 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 3: here in this trial? 374 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 6: So what I'm seeing is the prosecutor's strategy, right, and 375 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 6: it's way way too early, I would argue to be 376 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 6: able to come to some sort of a conclusion as 377 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 6: to the likelihood of his conviction. What the prosecution very 378 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 6: clearly is doing is establishing right up front that, as 379 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 6: you guys put it, not a good guy, okay, and 380 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: that the acts involved here are horrific. That in and 381 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 6: of itself, however, it does not supply enough beyond a 382 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 6: reasonable doubt for a conviction. But by establishing that right 383 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 6: up from the get go, first of all, you shade 384 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 6: you color the perceptions of the jury going forward in 385 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 6: regard to everything here. That's kind of going on in 386 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: the Karen Reid case as well, by the way, but 387 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 6: you gotta rumber something the charges here. He's the only 388 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 6: guy charged, and you have a Rico allegation here along 389 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 6: with some other charges, and that means that there are 390 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 6: other members of the organization and they were not charged, 391 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 6: which means almost certainly there's some flips coming. And that 392 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 6: is to say, people that are members of this organization 393 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 6: who are gonna come in and they're gonna button up 394 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 6: in the prosecution's mind, they're gonna button up the piece 395 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 6: that you guys are saying is potentially missing. And I'm 396 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 6: not disagreeing with you, we just haven't gotten to it yet. 397 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 5: You're gonna have. 398 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 6: Testimony, I would argue, where they are going to put 399 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 6: forth the idea that he had an organization, that it 400 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 6: was coercive, and then there's all this other stuff marveled 401 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 6: throughout it, including guns, drugs, physical assaults, even some allegations 402 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 6: of arson. It's gonna get very very volatile, very lurid, 403 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 6: and that's what they're going to put their meat on 404 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 6: the bones of the indictment as it's written. 405 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Why do you think they started with Cassie, his girlfriend, 406 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: she is the first witness bringing the case, because to me, 407 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: that is the most salacious, but it actually and I'm 408 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: curious how you would analyze this is one that he 409 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: might have the best defense for because she was with 410 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: him for a decade and if you truly felt like 411 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: you were being mistreated. I think most people, right, I 412 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: think most people out there, if they were in a 413 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: decade long relationship and you kept in that relationship, a 414 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: lot of people would say, hey, she had to have 415 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: consented to a lot of this. She wasn't necessarily coerced. 416 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: Right to me, starting with this actually offers him the 417 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: best defense, whereas if they had started with, hey, let 418 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: me get into some of the particulars of what we 419 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: think were criminal behavior, maybe by people who were his 420 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: former colleagues, former co workers, people that he employed. It 421 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: actually looks more like a clinical crime than a broken relationship, 422 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: clearly between a guy and a girlfriend. 423 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a very smart observation, 424 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 6: because you're right, that is very much the dynamic in 425 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 6: this and we've seen that from the get go. Because 426 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 6: notice that Colmes' defense Okay, who is Mark Agnifflow, by 427 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: the way, a very very competent and experience attorney. His wife, Karenygniffolo, 428 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: is actually the defense attorney for the Manjione case. She's 429 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 6: got Manngion. So they're well known here in New York 430 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 6: City criminal circles. They both work for the Manhattan DIA's office, 431 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 6: probably around when you were their fuck with us in 432 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 6: New York. 433 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it. 434 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know they've been around in Nay not. 435 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: He's very competent Atorney. 436 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 6: There's a lot of high profile cases, so you know, 437 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: he's got very good representation here. But what he's done, Clay, 438 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 6: is what the prosecution has done, excuse me, which is 439 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 6: a two female prosecutors are the part of the team. 440 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 6: One for him, by the way, is the daughter of 441 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 6: James Komy. That James Komy, his daughter is one of 442 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 6: the prosecutors. So this stuff is all very New York 443 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 6: at this point. But one of the things they're going 444 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 6: to do now is to confront the dynamic Clay that 445 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 6: you're talking about subsequent to Cassie. And as I said, 446 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: what they did upfront is just put the black head 447 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 6: on calms. They made him a bad guy to the 448 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 6: point that even his defense had to say, hey, you 449 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 6: know what is a bad guy. He's a domestic abuser. 450 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 6: But that doesn't make him a rico purp. That doesn't 451 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 6: make him a sex trafficker. Right, They're trying to draw 452 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 6: that distinction. So now everything is going to be colored 453 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 6: by that. But the question you pose is now, what 454 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: the prosecution has to overcome, which is was it simply transactional? 455 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 6: Was Cassie hanging around? She had ample opportunity to get away. 456 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 6: Was she hanging around because she was getting something out 457 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 6: of it? And this whole thing was kind of consensual, 458 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 6: which is going to be the defense, And that occurs. 459 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 6: That dynamic occurs in all these cases. We saw it 460 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 6: in Epstein, and we saw it in Weinstein. You know, 461 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 6: in the Harvey Weinstein case, she had a similar thing, 462 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: right like, I was all transactionally. I knew what they 463 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 6: were getting into. And this comes down to a little 464 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 6: bit of the evolution of America's sort of perception of 465 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 6: these things. You're seeing it in the Menedez case where 466 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 6: the argument is and it's been a winning argument so far, 467 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 6: to my shock, that we have progressed over the decades 468 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 6: in our understanding of certain dynamics in these things, and 469 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 6: as a result, we understand them better and we have 470 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 6: to treat them differently. And so it's going to come 471 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 6: down to exactly I think what you have put on 472 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 6: the table, which is how much the other members of 473 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 6: Combs's organization, because I'm telling you those that's who's coming here. 474 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 6: Because it's a RINCO, right, There's going to be other 475 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 6: members of the organization. They're not charge So where is everybody? 476 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 6: They're coming on a prosecution's case, gonna have to say 477 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 6: he had control of her, she didn't have independent will, 478 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 6: he threatened her, he beat her up, she didn't feel 479 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: like she could leave, and you gonna have all kinds 480 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 6: of other allegations about how he controlled this organization. And 481 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 6: that's gonna be what a rub hits the road. 482 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: We'll gonna Paul. 483 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: This goes to my next question for you, which my 484 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 3: understanding here, and this was from early on in the case, 485 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: and I checked to make sure they already know that 486 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: they found illegal drugs, a lot of the quote large 487 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: quantities of cocaine and meth, and illegal firearms. That's actually 488 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 3: something I do know quite a bit about because if 489 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 3: you've got illegal fire it was down here in Florida's 490 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: actually in Miami is where I live. And I think 491 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: he had the serial numbers filed off on some AR 492 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: Fifteen's a big, big no no. Now, this this comes 493 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: up in the Rico case. But if they've got him 494 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: on those can they just get him separately on those 495 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: illegal possession charges and I asked, because also, to me, 496 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: dedicates they must think they've got something really good on them, right, 497 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: because back in the day, if they can get them 498 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: on the illegal drugs and illegal guns, why not just 499 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: put them away for years on that? They must think 500 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: that they can prove this conspiracy at a higher level. 501 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, another smart question. So understand something. He's got other charges. 502 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 6: Everybody is focusing on the Rico charge because that's the 503 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 6: thing that tracks to like the mafia, Gravano flipped Doungatti. 504 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 6: We've all heard those threes. But there are other charges here. 505 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 6: I'm going to point one of them out. One of 506 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 6: them is that there isn't a gun charge here in 507 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 6: the superseding indictment. There is a drug charge. However, all right, 508 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 6: he's got a drug distribution charge. So there is that, 509 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: and that's recent because that's when when the HSI did 510 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: the raid. 511 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 5: Right. 512 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 6: He's also got an obstruction charge and that almost certainly 513 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 6: goes to the twenty sixteen thing where he tells is 514 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 6: he flores the head the manager, don't do anything with 515 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 6: this tape. You got to cover up this tape somehow. 516 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 6: Rather they brought the statute on that forward. I'll be 517 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 6: curious to see how they do that. But relative to 518 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 6: these other charges that are here, those remain on the 519 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 6: table as an option for him. And you know, the 520 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 6: one that's actually more serious than the RICO is the 521 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: sex trafficking case because and here's why, And this is 522 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 6: the thing I want to tease out. This is eighteen 523 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 6: title eighteen USC fifteen ninety one. Anybody can look it up. 524 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 6: It's not it sounds very loyally. Just look those numbers up. 525 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 6: This is sex trafficking of a minor, and that's trouble 526 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 6: for him because that carries life and the statute of limitations. 527 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off on that. Who is the minor? 528 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: Do we know anything about that? 529 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 6: You know? 530 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 5: No, I don't, And that's not going to be a 531 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 5: very good chance. 532 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 6: You're not going to hear that name because obviously it's 533 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 6: a minor, so we may hear in some vague terms. 534 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 6: And I don't know if the person is going to testify. 535 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 6: But eighteen fifteen ninety one, which nobody's really talking about it. 536 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 6: I looked for this interview. I had a lot of 537 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 6: the same questions you guys do, so I started looking 538 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 6: into the actual indictment. I pulled down the PDF as 539 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 6: opposed to talking about it off of People magazine, and 540 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 6: I see that it jumps right out of me. 541 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 5: Who's this? 542 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Yah, I didn't know that. Let me ask you this, 543 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: eight men for women on the jury? Am I a 544 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: awful And the answer may be very much yes, awful sexist, mischauvinist. 545 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: If I'm diddy, I want as many men on this 546 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: trial as I can get, because I think guys are 547 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: more likely in New York City to look at this 548 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, these women are getting on these planes. 549 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: They're consenting to travel all over the world to go 550 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: to ditty parties. They weren't just getting flown around for free. 551 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: They understood that. Again, this is what I'm arguing. If 552 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm the defense attorney, do you think that the fact 553 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: that he got eight men knowing that he only needs 554 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: one to refuse to convict right to say, hey, this 555 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: is reasonable doubt? If you were the defense attorney, would 556 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: you want more men on this jury than women? Do 557 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: you think that draw is better for him? 558 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 559 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I look, you know that probably makes me 560 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 6: an awful, terrible, horrible sexist person as well, But it 561 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 6: also means that we're both living in the real world, right, Yeah, 562 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 6: the answer would be yes, of course. 563 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 5: Now that said, as. 564 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 6: I said earlier, you know, the understanding of these sorts 565 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: of things have very much evolved, and I don't think 566 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 6: there's any denying that as a society we appreciate the 567 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 6: control that an abuser can have over the abused, and 568 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 6: our understanding of that dynamic has come a long long way. 569 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 5: So you know, it's a. 570 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 6: Very blanket statement and we have to be careful with 571 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 6: how we frame that. But yeah, of course, because women 572 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 6: are just going to be more understanding of that situation 573 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 6: they may have experienced themselves and not. You know, it's 574 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 6: not always men controlling women. It can be the reverse, 575 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 6: but let's speak factually, generally, it is one, especially when 576 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 6: it's physical. You know, it's men over women. This goes 577 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 6: almost to the argument of men and women's sports. Men 578 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 6: just have stronger bodies in a general sense, and blah 579 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 6: blah blah. You guys notice, So, yeah, you're thinking in 580 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: terms of men who are going to look at this 581 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 6: thing and say to themselves, eh, this was transactional. Cassie 582 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 6: so anyway, is the main witness here, and she stayed 583 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 6: with him for eleven years. How is that possible. There 584 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 6: must have been a point where she could have gotten 585 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 6: out of the limo, run into the police station and 586 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 6: spoken her piece, and she didn't do that until years 587 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: later when she decides to file a civil suit, which 588 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 6: carries a monetary imperative. Right, there's a motive embedded in 589 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 6: that that she's going to get paid, and you know, 590 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 6: not coincidentally, her records, her music wasn't exactly number one 591 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: at that point, so there's going to be this implication 592 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 6: that she did it for money, and ultimately she got 593 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 6: what she wanted. He settled the day after, as you 594 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 6: guys said, So yeah, and it just comes down to 595 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 6: whether the jury buys it. 596 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 5: And you know, there's also the reverse. 597 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 6: Some of the men may feel like, you know what, 598 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 6: I got to make sure that I don't come across 599 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 6: as the guy you're talking about, Clay, and so maybe 600 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 6: they're going to lean more into being protective. Oh and others. 601 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 6: So we'll say, let. 602 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: Me ask you this, Paul, because you on it. He 603 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: settled this case one day after the civil suit was filed. 604 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: Leave aside the criminal The only reason he's getting charged 605 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: criminally is because that civil case went public. He settled 606 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: it for reportedly eight figures. Is this one of the 607 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: all time miscalculations that you can think of? The guy's 608 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: a billionaire if he settles this case he had the 609 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to before it ever went public. None of this 610 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: probably ensues, because the entire case seems to have been 611 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: a roadmap based on that civil complaint. What a colossal 612 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: miscalculation this was, especially because you already went ahead and 613 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: settled it for you know, ten for ten million dollars 614 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: or more the day after it was filed. 615 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, look, we don't know the backstory, and 616 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: there almost certainly is one. I would suspect that in 617 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 6: light of the blizzard of civil suits that resulted from 618 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 6: his settlement with her, and it's just been a steamroller, 619 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 6: you know, it's been an ongoing thing, he may have 620 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 6: decided that he was being blackmailed, and he may have 621 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 6: said to himself, you know what, Look, I just gave 622 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 6: her ten million. Now people that I said alow to 623 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 6: in the street are coming after me for you're ten million, 624 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 6: alleging that I did this something similar. And I have 625 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 6: to stop here at some point and just say, you 626 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 6: know what, I can't do it. I have to call 627 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 6: BS because this could go on forever, and even a 628 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 6: billionaire like me, you know, I could be bankrupt. He 629 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 6: didn't put out any music for a long time. He 630 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 6: had put out a more recent album, and he was 631 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 6: kind of like the way I read it, and I'm 632 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 6: you know, look, I don't follow a hip hop real close. 633 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 6: I don't think that's any shock to anybody, but you know, 634 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 6: even I was aware of the fact that he was 635 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 6: kind of in the twilight of his career. 636 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: He wasn't one of the more relevant names. Yeah, he 637 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 5: had been at one point the real cultural icon. 638 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 6: Those days were over, and so he may have taken 639 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 6: a look at his money and had a you know, 640 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 6: he was supporting two three houses. He may have said, 641 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 6: I can't do this indefinitely, and so I'm going to 642 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 6: fight it tooth and nail. I'm not sure he ever 643 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 6: saw it going like this, though, because I have a 644 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 6: feeling that if he could have it back, he would. 645 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 6: He certainly did not expect that HSI raid on his 646 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 6: own them. 647 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: In La all right, Paul Morrow, great to talk to you, 648 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: as always, Thanks for chatting with us here about it. 649 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: We'll have you back on as this thing progresses. 650 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 6: Thank you, guys. 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This is 697 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: a talkback from Freddy and Rochester. 698 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 4: H H. 699 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: Play it. 700 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 5: You guys are epic. 701 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 4: You know what. 702 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: I was allergict you coffee, But I'm gonna get over 703 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: it and I'm gonna start drinking coffee and deal with 704 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 3: the sickness. Just because they celebrate America, I celebrate you, guys, 705 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: and I celebrate Trump. He says he's gonna drink some 706 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: Crocket coffee. You should join him in that one. Although 707 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: if you're allergic, I don't know, that's a whole other thing. 708 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: Consult with your doctor first. Crockett Coffee, I don't know. 709 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 3: Can you be allergic to coffee Crocket Coffee? 710 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: Evidently you can. Yeah. 711 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: At Crocketcoffee dot com, go sign up, check it out. 712 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: The Mushroom blend is delicious. By the way, Mushroom coffee, 713 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 3: I should say, it's a whole different kind of coffee. 714 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 3: Half the caffee and normal. But they've got fantastic stuff 715 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 3: there and use code book, get a copy of Clay's 716 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: American Playbook. Get them while they last before our books 717 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: come out at the end of this year. Let's see, JJ, 718 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: we got a funny one here, go for it. JJ, 719 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: Hi Clayon, but. 720 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 7: This is Kitty from California. I sent my husband to 721 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 7: the store one Christmas when I was making candy for butter. 722 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 7: J just butter. Didn't care what kind, didn't care what brand. 723 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 7: Told him that he came home with the only thing 724 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 7: in the entire store that is clearly labeled not butter, 725 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 7: as in, I can't believe it's not butter. At least 726 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 7: it makes a good story. 727 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: Just trying to be healthy. 728 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: That's a strong move right there, Right to be like, no, 729 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm not getting your butter. I'm getting you not butter 730 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 3: instead of butter. Glad they're still married though. 731 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 7: That's good.