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Speaker 1: Team Buck, welcome to the Freedom Hut. Great to have

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Speaker 1: maybe to hurt Trump or hurt some of his people.

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Speaker 1: Once you've done it, you know, I can see people

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Speaker 1: doing it again and again. I just hope they don't

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Speaker 1: get caught, because if you get caught once, it's bad enough.

433
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you get caught for leaking once, you

434
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Speaker 1: might as well get caught for leaking three times with

435
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Speaker 1: the way this stuff works, and the penalties are so

436
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Speaker 1: severe that you know, hey, so I just I also

437
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: can't think that this is all coincidence. I refuse to

438
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Speaker 1: believe that you have all these leaks meant to bring

439
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Speaker 1: up the sore points currently of the investigation and and

440
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: meant to go for this administration's I shouldn't say Achilles heal,

441
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Speaker 1: because I think they will get through it. But this

442
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: is the point of attack. This is the way the

443
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: media goes after Trump and his people. It is by

444
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Speaker 1: bringing up Russia and by just surmising, by analyzing, by

445
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: coming up with different variation variations, of you know, well,

446
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Speaker 1: what what could they find out here? You know what

447
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: maybe is going to what maybe is going to be

448
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: the result of this investigation. No need to wait for

449
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: the investigation to play out, no need to wait for facts.

450
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Speaker 1: Just figure you know, in time, no one will remember

451
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Speaker 1: the crazy charges of trees and all the other stuff

452
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Speaker 1: that's been said. And man, all these former Watergate special

453
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: prosecutors and other former special prosecutors bouncing around the media, now,

454
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Speaker 1: they shouldn't should have never let this happen. The American

455
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Speaker 1: people deserve better. I mean this, This administration is spending

456
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Speaker 1: so much time, the President spending so much time dealing

457
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Speaker 1: with this. It's just nonsense. And it's also and I

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Speaker 1: want to I was gonna go to a break, but

459
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to establish this before we do that.

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Speaker 1: It's also really offensive. It's offensive to me that there

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Speaker 1: are so many in my business, certainly in the media,

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Speaker 1: including people I know and have worked with, who think

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Speaker 1: that individuals like me who don't believe it there wasn't

464
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Speaker 1: any Russia collusion, to think that this is all just

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Speaker 1: a political fight that's being played out through the prosecutor's office.

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Speaker 1: In this case, the special Prosecutor's office, which I just

467
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: always object to in principle. I think it's a terrible

468
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Speaker 1: thing when you settle political arguments by trying to throw

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Speaker 1: somebody else in prison that has been Ina Republic stuff

470
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: that is third world tinpot dictatorship nonsense. And you've got

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Speaker 1: the entire media that that's that they would celebrate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there would be cheering and clapping at CNN and MSNBC

473
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Speaker 1: and ABC and CBS and you name it. If Trump

474
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Speaker 1: were one of his top people were thrown in prison.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they would cheer for that. They'd be really happy.

476
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Speaker 1: They think that they had done something really great, you know,

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Speaker 1: for this country, or at least for themselves. They don't

478
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Speaker 1: think about the country. They really only think about themselves.

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Speaker 1: But I find it offensive that there are so many

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Speaker 1: in the media who believe, and so many Democrats, and

481
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Speaker 1: just so many people forget about even putting categorizations on it,

482
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Speaker 1: just people in this country who seem to think that

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Speaker 1: if someone like me or someone like you really believe

484
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Speaker 1: that the president had engaged in illegal behavior and aided

485
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Speaker 1: in embedded Russia in some scheme to steal the election,

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Speaker 1: that we were that we would not want to know that,

487
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Speaker 1: and we wouldn't be okay. I mean we we would

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Speaker 1: be okay with that. It's offensive, you know that that

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Speaker 1: I would be okay with with treason if that were

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Speaker 1: in fact what happened. That's offensive when I'm offended by, though,

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Speaker 1: our allegations against the president that are not founded in

492
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Speaker 1: the in the facts, that are not tethered to reality,

493
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Speaker 1: and that are just really ultimately all of this it's

494
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Speaker 1: just a form of being sore losers. They're just such

495
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: sore losers. There's such babies. After eight years of Obamaism,

496
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Speaker 1: after eight years of all of their preconceived notions and

497
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Speaker 1: political biases and their were view, their view of this

498
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: country just being magnified and being elevated, uh and by

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Speaker 1: by that president, by the president and by the top

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Speaker 1: Democrats and the media all around him. After years of that,

501
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: they can't handle this new reality. They're they're having a

502
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: disconnect from reality because they cannot handle it. What do

503
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: you think about these leaks about what's come out today?

504
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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm right about the timing, by the

505
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Speaker 1: way that this was intentional, This was supposed to get

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Speaker 1: this get the discussion off of immigration at a point

507
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Speaker 1: system and uh, force us back to Russia, Russia, Russia.

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Speaker 1: There's you're listening that even some Democrats who actively hate

509
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: Trump have been vocal about how leaking a presidential phone

510
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Speaker 1: phone called transcript like this, it's just it's just reckless.

511
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Speaker 1: It's just reckless. There's no there's no justification for it.

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Speaker 1: It's not okay. And it just shows you the depths

513
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Speaker 1: of the hatred and also just how how dirty the

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Speaker 1: other side will play. Joe in Georgia on w m

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Speaker 1: c D, what's going on, Joe, Hey, what's going on? Hey? Hey, hey,

516
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: so I just called them. You got some good points.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Libitarian, so my issue with this is is

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Speaker 1: not for now, but long term. So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: curious what your ideas were on the fact that when

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Speaker 1: a Democrat takes president, is Republican is going to do

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Speaker 1: the exact same thing. And I know they don't have

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Speaker 1: the media backing as what Democrats typically have, but this is,

523
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Speaker 1: you know, a slippery slope of of going back and

524
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Speaker 1: forth and really having a quasi coup or a media

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00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: coup or just kind of knowing voys. So I don't

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Speaker 1: doubt that there's a close, closed door deal or talk

527
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Speaker 1: or discussion. That's saying, hey, we can't get them in prison.

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Speaker 1: That's what we can do is non vois four years

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Speaker 1: he sorry. So you're asking me if I think that

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Speaker 1: the next Democrat will get the same treatment or we'll

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Speaker 1: have the same problems. Yeah. Absolutely, Uh no, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's that. Well, well, there are a couple of reasons,

533
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Speaker 1: and you touched on one on which is that the uh,

534
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: the media still has a very big megaphone and they

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00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: all are look they're they're Democrats. Even Democrat media out

536
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: there still even with Fox and Talk radio and some

537
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: other platforms, to get out an alternative point of view. Uh,

538
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: so they don't you Republicans will never have that and

539
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: they certainly will not have that for the next Democrat presidency.

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00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: And then, um, and you add to that that the

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Speaker 1: Democrats also understand that they'll do whatever they have to

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Speaker 1: do in order to maintain power and stay in power.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why you know, you could have had

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Speaker 1: uh investigations. You know, you could have had a special

545
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: counsel to look into Hillary's emails, You could have had

546
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: a special counsel to look into Benazi, You could have

547
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: had a special counsel to look into fast and furious, right.

548
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: I mean, these are all areas where Attorney General Eric

549
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Speaker 1: Holder and Attorney General run a lynch. They just shut

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00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: it down. They just they just made sure that nothing

551
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: was going to happen. So that's why you don't have

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00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Democrats in the same position, because they're in charge, they

553
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: protect their own. When we're in charge, we have a

554
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: lot of Republicans your kinda, it's like, well do we

555
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: do we have to obey the rules all the time,

556
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: because you know, the rules sometimes can be a little murky.

557
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a judgment call. And Jeff Sessions accusing himself

558
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: and also uh, the appointment of a special counsel by

559
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: the deputy Attorney General. That's that's bad judgment in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think twenty Team is gonna show a

561
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: lot of things and uh, yeah, I definitely agree. Appreciate radio. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Matt, Thanks Joe. Um, all right, we got an

563
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Speaker 1: in Virginia on the line. Hey, Ann, what's up? Hello?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? Thanks for calling? In my

565
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Speaker 1: heart app I like it. Um. What they called about is,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to love the president because I've

567
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: told you he's increased my portfolio twenty Graham, but we

568
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: do we don't talk about money in the freedom hunt end,

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Speaker 1: But go ahead. How do you defend is h alleged

570
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Speaker 1: calls never took place to the president of Mexico. The

571
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: head of the Boys goes, how do you defend that? Well,

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that he said that he

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Speaker 1: never spoke to the president of Mexico. Did he? He

574
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: said he talked to the president of Mexico. Yeah, So

575
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: what's the problem he didn't. What do you mean he

576
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: didn't happened? The phone transcript is what? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What are you saying. I'm saying that he's lied about

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Speaker 1: these two phone calls. But what is the lie? Because

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a transcript of him on the

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Speaker 1: phone with the president of Mexico and you're saying he

581
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: didn't speak to the president of Mexico. What I don't

582
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: know that really is the transcript? Yeah, that's what the

583
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: leak is today. Okay, Okay, I don't know. Well, what's

584
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Speaker 1: the boy scout? You have to tell me that one.

585
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: But I gotta I'm gonna I'm gonna have to fact

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00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: check you on this one. What's the boy Scout phone call?

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00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: He claims that he heard from the head of the

588
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: Boy Scouts and he didn't. Okay, Well, assuming that that's true,

589
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: and uh, assuming that that is true, Um, I think

590
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: people would just say that who cares the president has

591
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: the president has a problem with unimportant facts sometimes I

592
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: think that's fair to say, Um, what what are we

593
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: going to do? Why should we care? And by the way,

594
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: are we gonna pretend that politicians lying is something new?

595
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Speaker 1: I mean, at least, you know, at least this is

596
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: now a president who we all kind of know where

597
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: we stand, so to speak, right, we we know what

598
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Speaker 1: to expect. You know, they're and they're big lies and

599
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: little eyes. So anyway, that's that what I've got on this.

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Speaker 1: And I've got to look into h more of the

601
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Speaker 1: Trump phone calls and whether you lie about them or not.

602
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: But I'll also say that no one really need I

603
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: don't think anyone cares all that much. I just don't

604
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: think it really gets anyone particularly energized other than people

605
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: who hate Trump. Yeah, you can't lie to boy Scotts,

606
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: you I know, I don't know anyway, thanks, And uh

607
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: so where are we now? Um? I have not enough

608
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: time to go into word. Oh here we go, uh,

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Speaker 1: Mark in Florida. Good to have you on, sir. What's up? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Very cool, that's awesome. Listen. I just wanted to say,

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and I love your show. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: on Santel John in Florida and listening none in four

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Speaker 1: or five panding my sitting and I'm just so happy

614
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: that your shows on and replace the last one. So

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00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: thank you for supporting. Thank you for supporting my show. Man.

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Speaker 1: You've got great You've got a great taste and shows

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Speaker 1: that you listen to. Now I appreciate it. Keep going,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll keep it simple, and I'll and I'll

619
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Speaker 1: hang up and I'll wait for your response. In short,

620
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Speaker 1: I'm a retired military member and I state after twenty one,

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Speaker 1: eight five years or whatever with mandatory training that just

622
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: eats so many man hours that aren't even accounted for

623
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Speaker 1: in the budget anyway. Any two in the military has

624
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: to sign an agreement every year that they understand information

625
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: and what you do or do not do with it.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to know what is going on

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Speaker 1: in the White House where this sense of information can

628
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Speaker 1: just be transmitted. Willy Nilly Mark. The answer is that

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Speaker 1: people people know about that, that they understand what they're

630
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Speaker 1: doing is against the rules and is is endangering national security,

631
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Speaker 1: but they do it anyway because they think it's more

632
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: important to oppose Trump. I think that's I really do

633
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: think that's the answer. Gary Man. We've never been here

634
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Speaker 1: in history before, you know, it is kind of scary.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, man, Shield Time, Mark, thank you

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Speaker 1: your service, Thank you for calling in. Sean Spicer is

637
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: not going to join Dancing with the Stars. That's some

638
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: news that I just found out about. Makes me sad

639
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Speaker 1: Spicy is not going to be doing his spicy thing.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm sure he would have been good. You know,

641
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Speaker 1: he could have worn a suit that was about a

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Speaker 1: size too big and uh, you know, done this. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's just it would have worked, I think.

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Speaker 1: But what a shame. But onto more interesting, serious and

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Speaker 1: necessary discussions. We have President Trump in West Virginia and

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Speaker 1: in a matter of moments, at least officially, that's what

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Speaker 1: we're told. In a matter of moments that the President

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Speaker 1: will be taking the stage in West Virginia, and he's

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Speaker 1: also saying that there will be a big announcement at

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Speaker 1: this rally. I'm sure that's gonna be a classic, classic

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Speaker 1: Trump rally. But the immediate hates this, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you see, So they've got all their deep State leaks today, right,

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Speaker 1: and they put those out there. And then the Trump

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Speaker 1: administr ration that the President can just go out and

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Speaker 1: give a speech, fire, fire up supporters, and tomorrow, even

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Speaker 1: unless you're already drinking this the CNN and MSNBC kool aid,

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Speaker 1: and unless you've decided that you somehow are buying into

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Speaker 1: this whole Russia collusion thing, you won't care tomorrow. So

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Speaker 1: Trump has the ability to reset the media narrative in

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Speaker 1: a way that no other president, no other president does

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Speaker 1: um and or has been able to. I should say

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be at this rount Well, he's gonna be,

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Speaker 1: of course, the main event of the rally, but there

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Speaker 1: will also be a big announcement. It's expected to be

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Speaker 1: that West Virginia Governor Jim Justice Is is expected to

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Speaker 1: switch his party affiliation to join to leave the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Party and join the Republican Party. So, okay, we will

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Speaker 1: bring you some of that rally in Huntington, West Virginia

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Speaker 1: live here on the show as it hits just because

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Speaker 1: you up, we're gonna be talking about politics and Trump

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Speaker 1: in America and what's going on here. We can get

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Speaker 1: into a bit of the Trump rally. Now, some very

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff in the aftermath of the after Action report,

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Speaker 1: if you will, from that exchange between White House senior

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Speaker 1: White House Adviser Stephen Miller and Jim Acosta. We played

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Speaker 1: someone for you yesterday. It was It was great TV,

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Speaker 1: for sure, but it was also really interesting to watch

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Speaker 1: it play out in real time the two sides of

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Speaker 1: this debate. On the one side, you have the but

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Speaker 1: I love immigrants, and I just love everybody, and I'm

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Speaker 1: so great, and I'm just you know, I just we

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Speaker 1: we just want the most diverse and multicultural place imaginable,

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Speaker 1: which means open borders basically. But I just love everybody,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to be so so loving and

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Speaker 1: I'm so sanctimonious at the same time. And Stephen Miller like, well, look,

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Speaker 1: that's not what the law says, that's not what the

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Speaker 1: history of this country has been when it comes to immigration.

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Speaker 1: That's not a reasonable position to take. And you don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. That's a I think that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty decent summary of how the two sides came

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Speaker 1: off yesterday, but you had uh Acosta of course trying

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Speaker 1: to do you know, this is this is the thing, right,

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Speaker 1: It's It's like when you watch a lot of these

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Speaker 1: televised debates and I'm astonished sometimes because I'll say, well,

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Speaker 1: any reasonable person will think that so and so came

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Speaker 1: off looking like like a clown or a buffoon. But

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Speaker 1: it really depends on your point of view. Sometimes you'll

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Speaker 1: you'll have people you know, you know, it's a perfect

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Speaker 1: A perfect example of this is I remember seeing uh

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Speaker 1: on Sean Hannity's TV show on Fox few times, and

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Speaker 1: Jim Chowdery, who I think is got into some less

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Speaker 1: of legal trouble ran recently and I forget, but and

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Speaker 1: Jim Chowdery, who's this preacher in the UK, was always

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Speaker 1: talking about Shariah for the UK, and I mean, Hannity

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Speaker 1: would handy would let him speak and then Hanny would

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Speaker 1: just be like, you know, you're you're you're a terrorist,

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Speaker 1: you're an idiot, you're terror bowl, you're the worst, and

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Speaker 1: all all good points from Sean. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: why would Chowdery, Why would this guy go on a

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Speaker 1: show and say such dumb things and get so pummeled,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Sean is just just was just hammering

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Speaker 1: him on the show as I would, as as anybody

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Speaker 1: you know in that position who is not some Islamist,

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Speaker 1: crazy theocrat would And then I found out from from

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Speaker 1: somebody I knew over at Fox that well, but you

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Speaker 1: have to remember that to chowderis followers. He's doing a

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Speaker 1: great job when he when he talks about how women

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Speaker 1: need to be subjugated and you know, Shariah for the

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Speaker 1: UK is the only way and all this stuff. His

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Speaker 1: followers think that's great. That they don't care what. They

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Speaker 1: don't care what the host of the show says, they

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Speaker 1: don't care that he's being called a terrorist whatever. They

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Speaker 1: they think that he's he's right, he's right. So for

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Speaker 1: his supporters, he's just taking the heat for what they

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Speaker 1: believe in. And I think with a Costa you have

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Speaker 1: a similar phenomenon where he could get so completely when

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Speaker 1: so completely smacked around. I mean it was Stephen Miller

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Speaker 1: gave a Costa a buck slap, and that could happen

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Speaker 1: in that way, and then Acosta could decide that he

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Speaker 1: would uh pretend like he had gotten the better of

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Speaker 1: that exchange, which is what happened, which is what happened today. Um,

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Speaker 1: here's what he hears, what he had to say about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, an unskilled person who doesn't speak English coming

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Speaker 1: into America might give birth to a Nobel laureate or

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Speaker 1: an astrophysicist or a neurosurgeon. And so that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is what has always been great about America in

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Speaker 1: my view. And I was just, you know, essentially trying

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Speaker 1: to test Stephen Miller on a couple of those points.

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Speaker 1: And I think what you saw on fold of the

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Speaker 1: reefing room is that he really just couldn't take that

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Speaker 1: kind of heat and exploded before our eyes. Nope, And

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Speaker 1: that is the opposite, that is the opposite of reality. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And yet that's the way a Costa comes away from.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we got Trump speaking live now in

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. We're gonna go to it. I am thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be back in the very, very beautiful state of

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Speaker 1: West Virginia, and I am proud to stand before you

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Speaker 1: and celebrate the hard working people who are the absolute

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Speaker 1: backbone of America. Thank you. I love the people of

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Speaker 1: this state. I love your grit, your spirit, and I

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Speaker 1: love our coal miners, and they're coming back strong. I

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Speaker 1: made you a promise during the campaign. You all remember,

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Speaker 1: many of you were here. I actually think we have

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Speaker 1: more people here tonight with thousands outside, that we had

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Speaker 1: during the campaign, if you can believe it. And as

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Speaker 1: you've seen, I've kept that promise. As president. We are

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Speaker 1: putting our coal minors back to work. We've ended the

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Speaker 1: war on beautiful clean call. We've stopped the e p

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Speaker 1: A intrusion. American call exports are already up. Think of this.

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Speaker 1: Thank of this. American exports of call are already up

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Speaker 1: more than sixty this year. Do you ever hear of

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Speaker 1: anything like that? The change you voted for is happening

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Speaker 1: every single day. Everyone in this great arena is united

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Speaker 1: by shared values. We believe in God, we believe in family,

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Speaker 1: We believe in country. We support the Constitution of the

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Speaker 1: United States of America. We cherish and defend the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 1: We believe schools should teach students to love our country,

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Speaker 1: to have pride in our history, and to respect our

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Speaker 1: great American flag. We stand with the incredible men and

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Speaker 1: women of law enforcement. Thank you. We believe strongly that

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Speaker 1: a nation must defend and protect its borders, and above

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Speaker 1: all else, we believe that we must take care of

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Speaker 1: our own citizens and put America first. Is here Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump speaking in West Virginia there, um talking to uh.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about coal miners, and he's of course in

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Speaker 1: coal country there. And I remember when Hillary had some

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Speaker 1: problems with with West Virginia with coal miners during her campaign.

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Speaker 1: She privas with a lot of people, but she had

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Speaker 1: a lot of problems when it came to coal miners

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Speaker 1: because I just didn't just doesn't really care about their plight,

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Speaker 1: because you know, climate change. Costa was doing the round

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Speaker 1: today on TV saying that you know, he thought he

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Speaker 1: brought the heat and he won that exchange with Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 1: When you're citing a poem that was added to the

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Speaker 1: Statue of Liberty as somehow a debate winner and and

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Speaker 1: citing it as though it has the force of law,

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Speaker 1: you are not winning the debate. That is, that is

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Speaker 1: fair to say, But he wouldn't even further than that.

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Speaker 1: Acosta was saying that the White House, that this White

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Speaker 1: House is of course all about bigotry and hate and

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Speaker 1: goes after certain groups in particular. I think at times

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Speaker 1: this White House has an unhealthy fixation on what I

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Speaker 1: call the three ms, the Mexicans, the Muslims, and the media. Uh,

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Speaker 1: their policies tend to be crafted around bashing one of

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Speaker 1: those three groups. And we just see it time and

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Speaker 1: again and today on immigration with the White Houses is

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Speaker 1: essentially saying in a wink and a dog whistle to

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Speaker 1: some of these battleground states that they want is that

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Speaker 1: immigrants coming in from Latin America are taking your jobs.

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Speaker 1: Immigrants coming in from any number of places are taking jobs.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when I was filling in for Rush

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Speaker 1: Limbaugh and one of the stories that I tackled on

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Speaker 1: the show how to do with people at Disney who

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Speaker 1: are losing their jobs for those who are coming in

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Speaker 1: on H one B visas two and that Disney was

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Speaker 1: forcing these people, these Americans to train their replacements, but

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Speaker 1: somehow that wasn't a violation of the H one B

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Speaker 1: VISA program. It's just crazy what goes on, but it happens.

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Speaker 1: It happens all the time. I should also note that

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Speaker 1: you see Acosta slipping in here that the White House

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Speaker 1: goes after Muslims, Mexicans, and the media, as though the media,

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Speaker 1: as though people like Jim Acosta, who I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what a costa makes. I'm gonna guess they

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Speaker 1: pay him a million dollars a year, may maybe a

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Speaker 1: little more, maybe a little less, but I'm I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: guess they pay him seven figures to wear a suit,

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Speaker 1: not know very much, go on TV and just get

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Speaker 1: say the most superficial liberal Democrat talking points and do

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Speaker 1: some reporting, which the funny thing about being a reporter

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Speaker 1: is it's it's like being an actor. It's a job

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Speaker 1: that anyone can do, but actually not very many people

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Speaker 1: can do well. But yeah, I'm sure he gets paid

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Speaker 1: something like that, and that's that's all well and good.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's what the market will bear. At least

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Speaker 1: that's what the bosses at SENN will pay him. But

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Speaker 1: I have to say, you're not a victimized You're not

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Speaker 1: a victimized marginalized group. If you're in the media. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you write for the New York Times and are

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Speaker 1: getting paid a couple of hundred grand to hang out

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Speaker 1: in your pajamas or sit in the newsroom and and

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Speaker 1: you know, write some stuff, you're not You're not in

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Speaker 1: deep dar rest. You know, you're you're not some marginalized group.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's funny that he puts the media

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Speaker 1: in with. Oh yeah, it's so hard to being Joe Scarborough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a guy's getting paid like five

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Speaker 1: or six million a year and you know, just really

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Speaker 1: seems like he's very worried about how many pastel shirts

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Speaker 1: he can match with his his polo sweaters and how

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Speaker 1: much time he gets to spend with Mika, you know,

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Speaker 1: on vacation. I mean, it's it's it's not a hard life,

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Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. We don't need to

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Speaker 1: worry about the media people that Trump has been bashing.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, what's going to happen? Uh, it's just so funny. Man.

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Speaker 1: The worst I tell you this, and I know I'm

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Speaker 1: a radio host. I'm sitting here doing media, as I

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Speaker 1: tell you, but just the worst people are a media. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's just full of the worst people. You should know

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Speaker 1: that a lot of very dishonest, terrible people. And usually

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Speaker 1: a good indicator of how terrible somebody is the media

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Speaker 1: is can they just can they just not let it

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Speaker 1: let it go, even if they've had a great ron,

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Speaker 1: made millions, but they can't stop, like they're the only

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00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: person in the country who can either read off a

854
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: teleprompter or ask basic questions in an interview. You know,

855
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: it has to be me. You get a lot of that.

856
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: The media people are terrible. Speaking of terrible media people.

857
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back into uh. Uh what a

858
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: cost to set here about his exchange with Miller, because

859
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: I found it very, very interesting, illuminating in terms of mindset.

860
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Here I quoted the Statue of Liberty to Stephen Millery.

861
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: Was odd to see the White House wolf, Uh, in

862
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: the form of Stephen Miller, one of the top policy advisers. Uh,

863
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: sort of sound like a statue of liberty originalist, as

864
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: if there's some difference between what the Statue of Liberty

865
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: looked like when it was first brought over here to

866
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: the United States and what uh, and what it looks

867
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: like now with a poem attached to it. I just

868
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: thought that was an odd moment. It was just a

869
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: poor argument. And whenever they're bashing the media, Wolf, my

870
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: sense always is is that they're just losing the argument. No. No,

871
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: In fact, bashing the media is one of the most

872
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: important things that the administration does um fighting back against

873
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: the media and that what they seem to forget is

874
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: that we were We were at least you know, anyone

875
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: who's having this conversation was alive during the Obama years,

876
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: and we remember what the media was like then. So

877
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: so we will not be talked down to. We will

878
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: not be lectured now by those exacts, not just those

879
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: same organizations, the same people who were completely complicit quizlings

880
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: and everything that Obama was doing, including the lives including

881
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: if you like your health care plan, you can keep it,

882
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: include ing uh, the top cover given by the administration

883
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: for Black Lives Matter and riots and calling them protesters

884
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: even as they were burning things down and throwing rocks

885
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: at police officers. I mean, yeah, we we saw the

886
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: way the media bent over backwards. We saw what they did,

887
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: so we we don't need to or rather we can

888
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: remind ourselves of what. Oh wow, I'm actually just you know,

889
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: there's some Trump probably that's going on, and there is

890
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: some real nasty physical stuff going on in the in

891
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: the stands that one of the Trump rally was Virginia.

892
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: Someone's getting arrested and there's a lot of shoving and uh,

893
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, just what is the mentality of showing up

894
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: at a rally with fifteen thousand people and getting into

895
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: a fight with somebody you know, and and getting escorted

896
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: out or standing up and shouting to the police have

897
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: to drag you out? Really that childish? I mean, I

898
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: think it's some kind of disorder. The this, it's the

899
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: same disorder. That's like I'm going to spend days on

900
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: end protesting and yelling at people over for no reason,

901
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: on an issue that nobody cares about. That's like the

902
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: Code Pink. I'm going to show up and scream. Maybe

903
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: you can kind of here in the back on c

904
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: SPAN sometime there'll be a bunch of centers like, whoa, no,

905
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about this thing over here, baby, maybe

906
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: way you're here in the background. You know, Code Pink

907
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: shrieking about something. What do they think is being accomplished?

908
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: I guess what's accomplishes. I sit here and make fun

909
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: of code pinks. We all know what they are. But

910
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, Acosta is uh is in another is in

911
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: another universe if he thinks that he looked like he

912
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: knew what he was talking about yesterday and uh the

913
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: by the way, I will note and I will hat

914
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: tip Ben Shapiro for this one because I really liked

915
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: and you know, we have been on the show regularly.

916
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: I really like this this one tweet that he put

917
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: out today because I was thinking about it yesterday. I mean,

918
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: this is this encapsulates the sentiment I think very well,

919
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: and that is that for for the left. Wait, I

920
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: want to I want to get it actually exactly right here?

921
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Where did it go? I'm trying to get there? Um.

922
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: He was saying that, you know that basically the the m. E.

923
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Lazarus poem is has the force of law, but the Constitution. Oh,

924
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: here we go in the left America. Emma Lazarus his

925
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 1: poem of the Statue of Liberty is to be read

926
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: literally as law, but the Constitution is vague poetry. Totally

927
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: totally agree with him. That's Ben Shapiro, totally agree. Um.

928
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: And that's why it's even more jaw dropping when you

929
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: see somebody like this guy meets him, who's an author's

930
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: actually written a bunch of biographies. I'm ashamed to say

931
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: that I was reading one of his biographies and saw

932
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: him on TV and was so annoyed by him and

933
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: find him so uh so smarmy and and sort of

934
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: calmly condescending that. I just was like, I'm not reading

935
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: this guy's book anymore. I'm sorry that I paid for it,

936
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry that i'm reading it. I'll find something,

937
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of biographies on presidents. I'll

938
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: find another one. But he was on MSNBC and this

939
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: is what he was saying, John, were you in on

940
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: this conspiracy? The poem clearly added later to all that

941
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: huddled massive stuff. Have we been needing to do that

942
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: all these years? Well? My question is can I get

943
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: up on that space station? You know? Is there a

944
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: shuttle available at this point? Um? The poem was added later. Uh.

945
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: This strikes me a little bit as a history by

946
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: Google argument from the White House. Uh. Emma Lazarus wrote

947
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: the poem to raise money for the Statue of Liberty,

948
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: was put on about twenty years later, uh, and has

949
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: fused as a symbol of liberty and immigration. I don't

950
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: think you can celebrate liberty without celebrating immigration. We are,

951
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 1: in fact a nation, uh, and almost entirely of immigrants.

952
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: I think what today shows us is that there is

953
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: a perennially ambivalent relationship with immigration in the American experience.

954
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: That begins with and let's go ahead and mention our

955
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: first dead president, uh, James John Adams, who passed the aliens. James,

956
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: I want to make here is first of all. So

957
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: he's defending that stupidity over the Lazarus poems of that

958
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: means something, it means nothing. And this is a guy

959
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: who's like a Pulitzer apply, a prize winning historian. Right.

960
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: But even he goes with this, we're a nation of immigrants.

961
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: We are not a nation of immigrants. I mean, there

962
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: are plenty of great immigrants in this country, but this

963
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: is a line they keep repeating, as though you know,

964
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: we're all immigrants. No that's not true. Well it's official. Now.

965
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: Trump is at a rally in West Virginia, and the

966
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: governor of West Virginia, I believe, is a billionaire like Trump.

967
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: Yea go capitalism, Jim Justice. He just announced that he

968
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: is switching parties as of tomorrow. He says that quote,

969
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, as West Virginians, I can't help you

970
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: anymore being a Democrat governor. So he says he's going

971
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: to become a Republican as of tomorrow. So there, Yeah,

972
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: that was the big That was the big announcement. Got

973
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: another Republican governor to add onto the list. Republican Party

974
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: is looking pretty good right now. Across the country. We

975
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: have Bree Peyton on the line. She is a culture

976
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: and millennial politics reporter for the Federalists. Pretty great to

977
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: have you. Thanks so much for having me. Always good

978
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: to talk to you about you too. So let's start

979
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: with your piece of the Federalists. Don't blame mooching millennials

980
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: like me for Obamacare's failures. Twentysomething's mooching on? Is this

981
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: because of the mooch? By the way, you've got two

982
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: mooches at one title. Uh, you know what's probably subconsciously right, Yeah,

983
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean the mooch has taken over everyone, took over

984
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: everyone's subconscious for a day or two. I've got to say,

985
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: it's one of the first times I've walked in this

986
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: radio show. And and you know, the day of the

987
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: Ranch when that was publicized, and all I could think is,

988
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way that this is normal, right, Like,

989
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: there's no way this stands. So it's crazy day anyway.

990
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: But back to back to Obamacare and mooching millennials. You

991
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: say that basically mooching millennials aren't the problem. Staying on

992
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: their staying on their parents insurance is not the problem?

993
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Tell us why? Sure? So I myself, as I talked

994
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: about in this piece on myself, the five year old,

995
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: who is still enrolled under my parents health insurance plan,

996
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: and I'm planning to do so until I turned twenty

997
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: six and get kicked off. Um. And so my piece

998
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: that I wrote was in response to a piece that

999
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: we published by Chris Jacobs, who is criticizing uh Tommy Laren,

1000
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 1: who's around the same age as me, um for doing

1001
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: the exact same thing that I'm doing, and said, this

1002
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: is what's wrong with Obamacare, right, Like, she's obviously a

1003
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: very well paid uh pundon. I mean, we all know

1004
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: that she has an exorbitant clothing wardrobe, among other benefits,

1005
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: and we can assume probably got a hefty salary um

1006
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: from her previous job before. So you know, why is

1007
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: this individual, you know, why is she able to boot

1008
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: off of her parents assurance? Clearly this is the reason

1009
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: why Obamacare is failing, because there's dumb little providges like that, right.

1010
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: And my piece in response to him was saying, yeah,

1011
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: you're right, you know, I although I don't get the

1012
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: exorbitant clothing budget, but she does. You know, I am

1013
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: able to care for myself, uh fistally right, So yeah,

1014
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: I could see why, you know, people would be critical

1015
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: of me staying under my parents health insurance plan. But

1016
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, like from the perspective of someone

1017
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: my age and someone Tommy's age, you know, why would

1018
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: we wade into the disaster of the individual market place

1019
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: that exists today when we don't have to for another year? Right?

1020
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the individual marketplace, as I outlined in my piece,

1021
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: is such a mess right now. A lot of Americans

1022
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of counties simply don't even have an

1023
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: insurance option, right. I think there's some things like thousand

1024
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: Americans who don't aren't even able to purchase insurance on

1025
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: the individual market. Um. And you know, that's kind of

1026
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: just what I was talking about, that a lot of

1027
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: millennials are staying on their parents health insurance plans as

1028
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: long as they possibly can because the marketplace is such

1029
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: a mess, because it's the affordable care action. Yeah, I

1030
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: remember being in my twenties and and going for a

1031
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: short period without insurance and and having to deal with

1032
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: getting uh getting sick was was not fun at all.

1033
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: I can tell you that when you when you actually

1034
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: have to navigate the health care system as a young

1035
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: person without health insurance, and without being able to be

1036
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: on your parents health insurance, and without having any money

1037
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: or savings because you've just gotten out of college, it

1038
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: is not It is not a cool experience. I can

1039
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: tell everybody that when all of a sudden, the doctor

1040
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: is like, well that's gonna be and you just get

1041
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: the bill that they want to give you, it's it's

1042
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: insane how expensive it is. Yeah, and you know another

1043
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: part of that to the reason why health insurance has

1044
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: become so expensive. I mean, someone like you or someone

1045
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: like me, we're young, pretty healthy. I mean I just

1046
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: need insurance for in case I get into a car

1047
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: accident or if I developed some cancer that I'm unaware of, right,

1048
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I really just need it for catastrophic coverage.

1049
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: That Obamacare strips away any chance of young people being

1050
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: able to get that kind of catastrophic coverage because of

1051
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: the essential health benefits that uh IT mandates insurance provide. No.

1052
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: In fact, the government makes you bree subsidize older, sicker people.

1053
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: The moment that you step into the individual marketplace. You

1054
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: are a subsidte, you're a subsidize er, You're not a

1055
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: subsidize e. And that's that's why. So that's why. Look,

1056
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you that the uh that

1057
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: that looking at first of all, that the cost of

1058
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: young people saying on their parents plans is very low

1059
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: comparatively to some of these other issues that come with Obamacare,

1060
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: because generally speaking, young people don't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: health problems. So you know, most five year old Americans,

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Speaker 1: you know, are not doing dialysis, They're not going through

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Speaker 1: incredibly expensive continuous treatment. Right, So that that's all a

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Speaker 1: part of us. But we're speaking of Bree painting everybody.

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Speaker 1: She's the culture millennial politics reporter for the Federalist. And

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Speaker 1: now let's talking about angry feminists. Angry feminists can't figure

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Speaker 1: out why nobody likes feminists anymore, Bree, you wrote this

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Speaker 1: on the Federalist. I want to know why. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: people don't like feminists anymore because feminists aren't about they

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Speaker 1: aren't about empowering women. Right there about in four seen

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Speaker 1: a doga enforcing a political set of beliefs, and if

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Speaker 1: you tend to try to differ from that, or delineate

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Speaker 1: from you know, the mantra that they're trying to push

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Speaker 1: on you. They're going to jump all over you and

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Speaker 1: attack you, right. And what I'm talking about specifically is

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Speaker 1: a lot of feminists reacted really strongly to the Democratic

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Speaker 1: uh Party's announcement that they aren't going to totally withhold

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Speaker 1: funds from Canada to our pro life right. And so

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Speaker 1: feminists like Jill I can never say your last name,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's like phil Povic or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's anyway, Her and Lauren Dugan and a couple of others, say,

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Speaker 1: you know, came out on Twitter and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is such a bed trail to any woman who

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Speaker 1: has ever voted or capt to vote in favor of

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, Like the fact that this party would

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Speaker 1: be fine with financially supporting the pro life candidates, and

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Speaker 1: this kind of behavior, you know, we've seen time and

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Speaker 1: time again from women and like that who are really

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Speaker 1: hard core feminists. Um you know, this whole notion that

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Speaker 1: if you're a woman, you have to be pro choice, right,

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Speaker 1: and if you're a pro life limit then you are

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01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: like betraying the sisterhood or something like that. Um, so

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Speaker 1: just that kind of behavior I find really frustrating, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's part of the reason why two thirds

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Speaker 1: of women in America don't identify as a feminist. Feminists

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Speaker 1: also have no sense of humor. I will note, you

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Speaker 1: cannot get with making jokes because they're they all buy

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Speaker 1: into intersectionality, which, for those listening, is a is a

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Speaker 1: approach to everything based on various inter intersecting groups of oppression,

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Speaker 1: and so makes society a zero sum between different groups

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Speaker 1: that are all trying to oppress each other. That that

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Speaker 1: doesn't leave a lot of room for fun. Not not

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun jokes can be made when that's

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Speaker 1: how you think of life. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: today a teen Vogue writer um basically wrote this column

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Speaker 1: uh saying that if you use ifs with black people

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Speaker 1: in them and you are not black, then you're you're basically,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically racist. Right. But a gift is like

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Speaker 1: a little short video everybody. Yeah, yeah, So she basically

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Speaker 1: said that if you tweet out a gift, like if

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Speaker 1: I tweet out a gift of Beyonce, then I am

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Speaker 1: you know, like perpetuating or committing black face is what

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Speaker 1: she is saying. I mean, and that kind of goes

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Speaker 1: to your point, right, that this kind of rowth you

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Speaker 1: or lens or obsession rather with intersectionality. Right, really, I

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Speaker 1: mean gifts aren't you can safe anymore? Right? If you're

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Speaker 1: using the wrong gifts, Um, you're a total racist and

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Speaker 1: are basically a kik came upper to in their minds.

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Speaker 1: The left it has no sense of humor, and feminists

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Speaker 1: are about as unfunny as anybody can be on the left.

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Speaker 1: But yet still it's uh, you have all these you know,

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Speaker 1: women's in gender studies classes and colleges that it continues

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Speaker 1: on as a discipline. I just don't understand why why

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Speaker 1: any young women today, bree are are drawn to this.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's what always baffles me. What is it

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Speaker 1: about somebody that they say, you know what, I really

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: want to watch Lena Dunham TV shows and attend these

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Speaker 1: gender studies courses where that they are inherently antimail, which

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Speaker 1: is a question of how how much they're anti email,

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Speaker 1: And there's nothing learned that is worthwhile. It's all it's

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Speaker 1: all just a big pity party. I mean, in the

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Speaker 1: spirit of fairness, I do like to watch girls, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, so yeah, I do, and I subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Lena Dunham's like weekly newsletter. It's called Lenny Letter. Um,

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Speaker 1: so I do, and I do like that show, and

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Speaker 1: I do enjoy reading the newsletter every now and again.

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, culturally, there is you know, um,

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Speaker 1: there is good culture, and there is good content that

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Speaker 1: is coming out of people who identify as feminists. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that it is laced with this kind

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Speaker 1: of earnest try hardness that does tend to get annoying, right,

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Speaker 1: And as we talked about, I mean, telling people that

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Speaker 1: you're racist if you use their all gifts. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just so far out of the extreme right. And

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Speaker 1: at one point in time I did identify as a feminists,

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Speaker 1: right because in my mind, you did. Okay, how did

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01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: that happen? So you're coming to us from the other side.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize, well, okay, I was coming at it

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Speaker 1: from the perspective of, oh, feminism is just that that

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Speaker 1: a woman should be equal, right. That was my conception

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Speaker 1: of feminism, and that's what I thought it was, um.

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Speaker 1: But then I quickly learned that, you know, that's not

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Speaker 1: really what it is, right, It's that, um, not only

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Speaker 1: are we supposed to be equal, but we are supposed

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Speaker 1: to get these little special treatments and special brownie points, right,

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Speaker 1: I guess my first thing, Yeah, I mean our guys

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Speaker 1: are guys supposed to pay for dinner at least on

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Speaker 1: the first date. So I mean, okay, well, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to answer that question. Inquiring minds want to know

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Speaker 1: across America or at other wondering is a guy have

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Speaker 1: to pay for dinner on the first day. I think

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Speaker 1: he should, you know, I think like the first three

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Speaker 1: days the guys should, and then after that you can

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: take turns, right, because I think it's also kind of

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Speaker 1: rude and more self and ship. You're a woman, and

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Speaker 1: you just expect him to pay for everything all the time, right,

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Speaker 1: like that that's crazy. But if you let him pay

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Speaker 1: the first two or three times just to be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm thoughtful, then I think that that's considerate

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Speaker 1: and nice, and then you can kind of figure out

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Speaker 1: a way of taking turns for one another, right, Because

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Speaker 1: in a relationship, the point of it is to like

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Speaker 1: love one another, and I think when you are loving

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Speaker 1: one another, you are like looking out for the other

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Speaker 1: person's interests and beats and I think like when you're

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Speaker 1: looking out for the other person's needs an interest, then

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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to cover your own, right. So

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Speaker 1: I think what that looks like taking the check is

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Speaker 1: you know, you kind of fight over it and take

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Speaker 1: turns letting the other person, UM pay for it. Yeah,

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01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: but the guy is still supposed to pay. He's supposed

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Speaker 1: to all the Doherty is supposed to pay everybody. That's

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: where That's what we're getting. But are we really appreciate

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01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: you coming by the Hut to hang out? Bree paint

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Speaker 1: and everybody check out our latest on the Federalist dot com.

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Speaker 1: She's a reporter at the Federalist. Bree come back soon. Awesome. Yes,

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Speaker 1: returned for a second to the debate that broke out

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Speaker 1: after the the Acosta Miller throw down you had on

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Speaker 1: CNN last night. They have a pundit and a Navarro

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Speaker 1: who is allegedly Republican. I mean, was I think it's

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Speaker 1: close with the Bush family or something, or you know,

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Speaker 1: worked with jab or I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: our background. I don't really care. Um, but is one

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Speaker 1: I can tell you rude in person um and and

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Speaker 1: says cartoonishly stupid things on a regular basis. One of

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Speaker 1: my favorites was actually when she was in the Bill

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Speaker 1: Mars Show and was calling out Trump for being how

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Speaker 1: how Trump, unlike Bush, was only who he was because

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Speaker 1: of his dad, and I'm like, well, but anyway, that

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Speaker 1: was that was quite a groan, that was There was

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Speaker 1: a groan from the audience over that one, as there

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Speaker 1: should have been. But yeah, she says really dumb things

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Speaker 1: in his roots, so I don't mind saying that. And

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Speaker 1: she was on CNN last night talking to Jeffrey Lord,

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Speaker 1: who's the favorite pro Trump punching bag on CNN. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's a nice guy, but I mean, they mistreat

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Speaker 1: him on air all the time. I wish, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wish somebody else would give him a job so he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have to go on TV and have people just

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Speaker 1: constantly ambushing him. But such is life. Um, And here

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Speaker 1: is what Ms Navarro uh just said to Mr Lord here,

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Speaker 1: jeff it must be so nice to be a white

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Speaker 1: male and be able to this. And I think that

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Speaker 1: you just completely missed the point of what makes us

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Speaker 1: wonderful here in America is that I can go celebrate St.

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Speaker 1: Patrick's Day and that you can celebrate Sinco de Mayo,

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Speaker 1: or you can celebrate the fifteenth of September, and that

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Speaker 1: does not defined being America. See a very like she

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Speaker 1: seems to think what she's saying is smart or relevant,

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Speaker 1: but it's not. What does that have to do with anything?

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Speaker 1: What makes us great in America is that we can

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Speaker 1: go to each other's ethnic parades. Okay, why does that

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Speaker 1: mean that a skill based immigration system or a point

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Speaker 1: based immigration system that privileges certain skills for the purpose

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Speaker 1: of contributing more quickly and more efficiently to the U.

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Speaker 1: S economy for the benefit of citizens here, what does

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Speaker 1: that happen? No, has nothing to do with it, right,

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Speaker 1: She just goes on TV, though, and yells at people

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Speaker 1: and has an you know, has a constituency that supports her,

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Speaker 1: I guess, and she's rapidly anti Trump. So just you know,

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Speaker 1: you should keep that in mind too. But you saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of this um and you should also note

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Speaker 1: this is part of the problem is that somebody at

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Speaker 1: CNN you can be called out for being a white

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Speaker 1: male on TV and that's okay. Just imagine for a

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Speaker 1: moment that a white male did that to anyone who

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Speaker 1: would not a white male right, Well, you know you

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01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: you clearly got where you are because you know you're

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01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: a you're a female, you know, Inuit or something, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know it isn't that the proper term

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: now for esk Eskimo or not supposed to sit anymore Inuit. Anyway,

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01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get an angry email from an Eskimo

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Speaker 1: somewhere I know we have. I mean, I love our

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01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: folks up north to listen to the show, but I'm

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01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: just trying to pick a group that's not gonna be controversial.

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Speaker 1: The point I'm making here is that only a white

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Speaker 1: male can get called out for being a white male

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: at CNN, and that's supposed to be okay, like it's

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Speaker 1: some kind of argument under In fact, I had the

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: very telling experience of being on CNN and having a

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Speaker 1: a socialite and a very wealthy Palestinian woman to tell

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Speaker 1: me that my opinion on how to deal with counter terrorism,

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: despite having worked for the CIA is kind of terrorism center,

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: despite serving in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as some

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Speaker 1: other places that to this day I haven't been that

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Speaker 1: I'm aware of able to talk to you about on

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Speaker 1: the air. But maybe one day I'll see if I

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01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: can get Clara's for it. Um. But that was all irrelevant,

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Speaker 1: right because I was a white male and not a Muslim,

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Speaker 1: And I thought it was fascinating because that was said

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Speaker 1: to me at a table by a Muslim woman who

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Speaker 1: was a socialite named Ruler Gibral posing as a foreign

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Speaker 1: policy expert. The host did nothing to uh, to sort

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Speaker 1: of calm that down. In fact, wouldn't let me really respond.

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Speaker 1: They rushed us into a break, wouldn't let me return

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Speaker 1: to the subject after the break. And I thought it

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Speaker 1: was fascinating because one of CNN's supposed terrorism experts, who's

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Speaker 1: a white guy who as far as I know, is

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Speaker 1: definitely not Muslim and has never served in a war

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Speaker 1: zone that I'm aware of, nor have any professional experience

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01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: of actually dealing with counter terrorism cases or counter terrorism

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Speaker 1: operations as I have, and she wouldn't say it to him, right.

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: So it's really if you're a white male Republican, that

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01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: can be that can be used to shut down the discussion, like, well,

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01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: your opinion on this is irrelevant because you're a white male,

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01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know that's it was such a

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01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: snyde thing for a Navarro to say on seam. But

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01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: like I said, she's she's among the dumbest pundits on TV,

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: among the very dumbest, I mean really, and and is

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01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 1: loud and gets a lot of airtime, among the dumbest

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: that I've come across. And I I know a lot

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 1: of them. I've dealt with a lot of them, you know,

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm very honest about this, you know,

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01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: I will tell you. Uh, Van Jones is a slick

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: guy and is actually very polite and very charming and

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: wants to be and he he is somebody that if

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: you're debating, you gotta pay attention, you know, just because somebody.

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: And he's a Democrat obviously, and there are others over

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01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: there too that you know, you better, you better know

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01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You better bring your your A game

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to go into an on air battle

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: against them, because they know what's up. Uh Navarro, who's,

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01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: as I said, a ostensibly Republican, is just an imbecile.

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01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: So you have that. But she gets to call, you know,

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: she gets to speak down to Jeffrey Lord and saying,

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, it must be so nice that you're just

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01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: a white male um and yeah, there you have it.

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,879
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's frustrating how things go over there at CNN,

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: and even though I don't work there anymore, have smartphones

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: destroyed a generation? It's a piece up on The Atlantic,

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01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,440
Speaker 1: which is a left of center but at least thoughtful magazine.

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01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: They have some very good writers and they do some

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: interesting stuff. In fact, it was a piece in The

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: Atlantic a while ago that got a lot of attention,

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: including from any conservatives. I know that was what I

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01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: sis really believes, and it went into the apocalyptic end

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01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 1: of days really theology of the Islamic state that was

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: in the Atlantic some I don't know a few years ago,

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: but have smartphones destroyed a generation? I uh find myself

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01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: wishing sometimes that smartphones could be uninvented. I will be

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: completely honest with you. I have problems with people in

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01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: my day to day life who I feel like are

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: completely overwhelmed with the need overtaken by the need to be,

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, to have their smartphone, to have it out.

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01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: I start to go nuts when people think that it's

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01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: okay to have it out on the table while we're eating, like,

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01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: because it's not enough to have it vibrating in their

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: pocket that they needed to be there in front of

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01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: them all the time. And I know that for some people,

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01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: they're in such a stressful work situation or they're so

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: on call that you know, they they get nervous when

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01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: they don't have access to their phone. But you know,

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01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: we're not all heart surgeons. You know, let's let's not pretend,

1324
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're not all being called in at all

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: hours of the night to save lives or something. And

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01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: most of us have normal jobs that just requires to

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: be reasonably responsible and uh somewhat reachable I suppose in

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01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: off hours. But I've been wondering about this, and you know,

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have kids yet, hoping to

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01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: at some point in the near ish near ish near

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01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: near iss future. But I don't have kids. But I

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01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: wonder what it's like growing up now as a twelve

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: is a thirteen year old and having all of these

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01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: these pressures, and having all these having all this access

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01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: that comes from from a phone pressures. I mean by this,

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: the show the social pressure of your entire UH status

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01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: as a twelve or thirteen or a fourteen year old.

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01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: And this is what the piece is really about. It's

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: out there for everyone else to judge and to see

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I can't imagine. I mean, I tell

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01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: you this in in the pre Instagram, pre cell phone era,

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: I remember going to an all boys high school, and

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, I was I'm not gonna lie. I mean,

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: I was a reasonably I was a pretty social guy

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01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: and everything. But I found that you could get around

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01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: the dress code at my all boys school by wearing

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01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: a this is my high school by jesuit school. I

1348
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: would wear a fleece because technically that was an outer

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01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: garment and so I could wear a T shirt underneath

1350
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: it instead of a collared shirt like a button down.

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01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's my own little rebellion. So as long

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: as I wore that fleece all day indoors, I could

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01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: do whatever I wanted. And uh, you know I wore

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01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: I I did wear boat shoes that I will tell

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01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,839
Speaker 1: you One day, my boa chooes actually literally came apart

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: on my walk home and I had to kind of

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01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: like limp home with shoes that well, with a shoe

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: that had disintegrated. So I wore old, beat up boat

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: shoes and uh, and you know I sometimes would have

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01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: I would have problems with problems with my skin I'm

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01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: sure a lot of you if you think back your

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01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: teenage years, you know I would have uh, I would

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: want to hide my face because you know there would

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: be there would be issues, you know, the teenager stuff, right.

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01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: I can't imagine feeling like I need to be constantly

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: and now I know it's different for guys for girls,

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: but there's pressure on guys too young, you know, young

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01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: teenager guys to be just competing and and being cool

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01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: and how many followers do you have and how many

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01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: you know? You know. I find it, honestly, in some

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: ways oppressive enough that in media now this is the

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01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: expectation that you're supposed to be sharing your every thought

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01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: every minute of the day. I mean, look, these tools

1374
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: are very powerful, and they're great in the proper place, right.

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that I can read messages from

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01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: all of you on Facebook, by the way, Facebook dot com,

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01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: slash buck Sexton uh. And I like that I can

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01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: post things there and we can have a communication. But

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm not And those you follow me on Twitter know this.

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01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: Those you are follow my Facebook page know this. I'm

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01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: not somebody who just sits around all day sharing every

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 1: thought and just sharing every link and share share, Share,

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01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: Share share, just desperate for attention. I mean, I spend

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: my time thinking and doing, I spent my living my life,

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 1: and also when I'm working on preparing for this show.

1386
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: This three hours of my day that I spend with

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01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: you every or Monday through Friday, at least, this is

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: my content, These are my thoughts, this is what I do,

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: and and social media is supplementary to it, but it's not.

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01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 1: And I refused to to let that take over my

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01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: normal day to day life and relationships. But for a

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: lot of people, especially young people, that's become a real thing.

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: That's a problem. In fact, the data suggests that we

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01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: have a generation that is in the beginnings of what

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01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: is a well here, I'll tell you what it says.

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: In the piece, rates of team depression and suicide have skyrocketed.

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01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: Since it's not in an exaggeration to describe IGEN those

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01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: born I think like six and later or two thousand

1399
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: and later, to describe IGEN as being on the brink

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01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: of the worst mental health crisis in decades. Much of

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: this deterioration can be traced to their phones. It's paradoxical,

1402
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: but I know a lot of you listening, and especially

1403
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: if you're in a generation that remembers when you had

1404
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: to call people on a phone if you wanted to

1405
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: talk to them, and it was actually a phone, and

1406
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: it was a thing that you had to dial, and

1407
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: if nobody was there, that was it, like you couldn't

1408
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: talk to them, you know. And maybe then you come

1409
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: from the answering machine generation, but some of you, I'm

1410
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: sure a lot of you are pre answering machine generation. Right. So, uh,

1411
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: you're you grew up in a time when and really

1412
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: I did too. It. In fact, people of my age

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01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five, we're the last. We're the last gasp

1414
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: of you know, you gotta see people, You've gotta meet people,

1415
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: you've gotta be out there, you gotta go to parties,

1416
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: you gotta socialize with your friends. Now it's all digital,

1417
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: it's all the social media world taking over actual socialization

1418
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: and the pressures that come with that. And it comes

1419
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: at such a young age too, And uh, the sense

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01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: that everyone's always creating this perception of who they are

1421
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: online that's not really that well, that's not realistic, right,

1422
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 1: you're only posting in this I see this with the

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01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: younger people that I know in my own life. You

1424
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: know they're only posting the best photos themselves all the time. Well,

1425
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: if you if all you see your friends looking good

1426
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: and having fun and being on vacation, that can start

1427
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: to if you don't put that in the context of

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01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: this is clearly a curated experience that can make people

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01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: feel badly about themselves. And for young people who don't

1430
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: have the context of well, one having lived before all this,

1431
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: so knowing that you know what the stuff isn't really

1432
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: all in amportant. But two, also you know your your

1433
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: identity and your popularity and your social connections when you're

1434
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: a teenager, and that stuff is that that has a

1435
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: profound impact on how people feel about themselves. It really does.

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: And the also the access for cyber bullying is is

1437
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: just omnipresent now. And we have a whole generation that

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01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: lives on these phones all the time and that is

1439
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: used to having them, and they're now early teenagers. I'm

1440
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: amazed at how young some people are by the way

1441
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: that I have iPhones. I mean I'm reading these stories.

1442
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, eight and ten and twelve year olds that

1443
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: have iPhones. I can't imagine. I mean, I think I

1444
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: got my first cell phone when I was like a

1445
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: senior in high school and it was just a phone, right,

1446
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you could call me, but that was about it. Uh.

1447
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing how all this is transforming society. And

1448
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately we have to just be on guard

1449
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: for loneliness, you know. Your Yeah, it's nice to connect

1450
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: you with loved ones and face time and I do

1451
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: that all the time, and I'll FaceTime my parents and

1452
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: that's all great. But human contact and living in the

1453
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: outside world and living in the moment and not allowing

1454
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: these devices to cut you off from the actual reality

1455
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: around you, that's really important. And I think that there's

1456
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,799
Speaker 1: a generation now that needs, really needs parents, their parents

1457
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: to remind them of that and guide them and make

1458
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: sure that they understand that no matter what, no matter

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01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: how many Facebook friends you have, no matter how active

1460
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: you are on Twitter, how many followers you have as

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01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: as a teenager or anybody for that matter, never really

1462
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: comparis to sitting down and being with people that make

1463
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: you feel good, that make you feel um appreciated, and

1464
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: that makes you better and that you want to be around.

1465
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: You can you can Facebook posts as much as you want,

1466
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: but actual human physical contact is something that will never

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: be able to be replicated by any machines. And that's

1468
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: why I think there's this uh spiraling depression for so

1469
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: many young people because they're still relying on these phones. Alright,

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Speaker 1: Team Buck, we always need a little dose of real

1471
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: is him in reality from our guests, and here in

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01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: the Freedom Hope, we've got the one and only David

1473
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: Harsan you joining us to do just that. He is

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01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: a senior editor at The Federalist, a nationally syndicated columnists.

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: It's got a bunch of stuff up on the Federalist.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna help me make fun of CNN, Jim Jim

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Speaker 1: Acosta right now, David, good time is good to have you,

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01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: always good to be here. Thanks. So the Acosta throw

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01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: down yesterday fabulous television, but also insightful about a much

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01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: more widespread mindset among journalists. And I would say among

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01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: Democrats that is what Acosta believes. I think so. I mean,

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01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: I believe they treat immigration as if it were one

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01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: of the open immigration, as if it weren't one of

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Speaker 1: the amendments. You know, it's the sort of right of

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01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: being an American. I mean, our I t of being

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01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: an American is that essentially we exist to bring people here.

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: And now I'm very pro immigration, but the idea that

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01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:55,440
Speaker 1: we can't ever uh you know, tighten restrictions or strictures

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01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: or come up with some new, you know, rules as

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01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: to how you come here on what you need to do,

1491
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: um is ridiculous. I'm the child of immigrants and they

1492
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: followed the rules that were there, and they would have

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01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: followed any of the rules to be here. So uh,

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01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: it seems not to me to be un American or

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01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: anything like that. And yet there's also I think a

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01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of condescension that comes from many on the

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01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: left who who seem to think that they are standing

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01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: up for immigrants when they immediately make the assumption as

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01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: so many war I mean, you had Anna Navar last

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: night screaming and blathering on like an imbecile, which I

1501
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: think is actually her brand, Like they should probably put

1502
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: that up on her chiron. But about how a point

1503
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: system is racist? Now, putting aside for a moment that

1504
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: an immigration point system is exactly what Canada has, it's

1505
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: what Australia has, And in fact, Australia has been tightening

1506
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: many of its immigration restrictions in recent years because of

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01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 1: concerns that we share about our own immigration system. When

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01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: you look at what they're saying, it seems to suggest

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01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: that the moment that there's a competitiveness in the process,

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01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,520
Speaker 1: non whites willsoft That's what the left, that's what democrats

1511
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: are are openly stating, you know, that that non whites

1512
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: won't speak English as much, non whites won't be as

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01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: competitive academically, or won't have the same professional credentials. I mean,

1514
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: there's six billion plus people in the world. I'm pretty

1515
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: sure we can find a lot of people of all

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01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: different backgrounds and ethnicities that are absolutely fantastic. It just

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01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: seems crazy to me. Yeah, I mean it's it's it's

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01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: essentially a racist thing to say. Um, you know, more

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01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: and moreover, it's nonsensical. People speak English all over the world.

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01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: I think the second largest English speaking nations in India

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01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: or something like that. So, uh, plenty of people can

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01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: from Asia come here follow you know, on a point system.

1523
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: They do very well probably and and listen, we can

1524
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: discuss the parameters of it. But the idea, the very

1525
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: idea that it's racist just because it exists is ridiculous.

1526
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously the many of the republic so

1527
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: called Republicans, you know on channels like CNN, are are

1528
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,759
Speaker 1: are you know, are like Anna Navarro, So make ridiculous

1529
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: statements like that, and they seem ridiculous. But you wrote

1530
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: on the Federalist that's you and Jim Acosta read the

1531
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: statue Statue of Liberty poem had him meltdown when someone

1532
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: suggested immigrants be able to read it too. What what

1533
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: do you talking about in your piece up on the Federalists. Well,

1534
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's I think it's emotionalism right to

1535
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: read that poem and pretend that it's like the law.

1536
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: Then I see Arianna Huffington another talking about it and

1537
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: comparing it to an amendment of the Constitution rights do

1538
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: they not understand the difference? So listen. I think it's

1539
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: a nice poem, but that's all it is. And um,

1540
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, I actually think it's a beautiful poem, and

1541
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: I think it shines out to people and I want

1542
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: people who want to come here. But the idea that

1543
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: it says you must allow one million new Green cards

1544
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: every year and if you allow only seven fifty or

1545
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: un American is just ridiculous. So it's emotionalism and you know,

1546
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 1: he he got killed in that debate and he shouldn't

1547
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: even be debating. He's supposed to be a reporter. He

1548
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: was killed in that debate, and then he speak kind

1549
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: of kind of honed on that for one second, because

1550
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: I get occasionally heckled by former colleagues at CNN when

1551
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: I point out that CNN is full of people who

1552
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: are don't don't just have opinions, but actively promote using

1553
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: the CNN platform their opinions but there, but they do

1554
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: it while also pretending to be journalists who are nonpartisan,

1555
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: non biased and just presenting the facts. Is there any

1556
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: sentient being out there who's really going to say that,

1557
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, Jim Acosta on immigration when it comes to

1558
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: this White House, he's just presenting the facts. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

1559
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Now listen, if maybe this is better, maybe it's better

1560
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: than I know what these people believe, and maybe we

1561
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: should have a debate. But if you're going to do that,

1562
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: you need to send someone to the White House who

1563
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: understands history a little better than him, who's a better

1564
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: debater than he is, who has some facts you know

1565
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: about immigration. Um, because it's I think it's embarrassing now

1566
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: of course, I just saw someone reporting that he might

1567
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: get his own show now on CNN, which is perfect.

1568
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: So you know, the more arts than you are, you know,

1569
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: the more the more successful you become. Basically it seems

1570
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: to me, So you know, I just think it it

1571
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: incentivizes people to do the wrong thing. But you know,

1572
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: that's where we are in journalism right now. And David

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01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: Harsani is with us now. He's senior editor at The Federalist,

1574
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: nationally syndicated columnist. David, I'm gonna be talking about this

1575
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: in depth in a few moments here. But you also

1576
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: wrote up on the Federalist get government out of the

1577
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: college discrimination business. I still present this challenge anyone out

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01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: and any leftist, and you know, maybe they just won't

1579
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: debaate me because they don't know who I am, or

1580
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: they don't care. There there is no ground to stand

1581
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: on anymore for a forumn of action that the numbers

1582
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: are in the realities are clear. It is racial discrimination

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01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: and college admissions, full stop. And if somebody really wants

1584
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: to explain to me why a kid from Costa Rica

1585
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: is so much more valuable because of being Costa Rican

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01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: than a kid from the Philippines. I would love for

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01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: them to explain that, but but that is the reality

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01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 1: of the immigration system right now. Everyone always sort of

1589
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: or the left time, sorry pardon wrong. So the the

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01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, we always focus on on the kid who's

1591
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: who's getting you know, who's being helped supposedly, I never

1592
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: that kid who's being helped is pushing someone other kid out,

1593
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, who has done the work, who you know,

1594
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: could be from like you said, the Philippines are wherever.

1595
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: And to make this first of all, that the New

1596
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: York Times reported this and immediately they said it was

1597
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: going to benefit white applicants. Um, today we learned that's

1598
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: an Asian American group that's that sued and issuing, and

1599
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: white women also benefit from it. Were no one, no

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01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: one should have this sort of state sponsored discrimination helping them,

1601
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: at least in my estimation. And uh, you know, we

1602
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: why should Asian kids stuffer? I mean, we're just talking

1603
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: about immigration, and everyone hates points systems. You know, this

1604
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: is about meritocracy is and that what we're supposed to

1605
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: be about. My idea simply that the government should get

1606
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: out of the business of trying to uh, you know,

1607
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: push any kind of missions policy, and let's do it

1608
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: or have a color blind admission policy pushed. I mean

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01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: that that's how it should be done. Well, I think

1610
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 1: there's the regular's plenty of data. In fact, the University

1611
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: of California State school System gives us all the data

1612
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: we need to see that. Yeah, there there there will

1613
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: be differences. And in that case, in particular, it means

1614
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 1: at the top end schools that require higher grades and

1615
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: higher s A T scores, you have more Asian American students.

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01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 1: That's just what That's just what's happened in California. There

1617
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: will be some shifts. But the social engineers, the Democrat

1618
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: Party don't like these things. It it bothers them. And

1619
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of other reasons, which, as I said,

1620
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: I'll be going into. But for me, David, the biggest UH,

1621
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: the biggest problem that I think will be exposed as

1622
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 1: this comes out with the administration looking at it, is

1623
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: that the schools are lying. They do have quotas, they

1624
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 1: just pretend not to have quotas. They do have points systems,

1625
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: they just don't actually write them down anywhere. Because the

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01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: year in and year out, the UH, the percentages of

1627
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: different minorities stay exactly the same. There's no way that

1628
01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: that happens based on the applicant pool. That's just nonsense, right,

1629
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and there's no There's two things

1630
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: to think about there. One is that there there's really

1631
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: no way to govern this. Schools are going to do

1632
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 1: what they want anyway, and in my estimation, they should

1633
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: be allowed to do whatever they want to do. But

1634
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: it does remind me, and I mentioned this of the

1635
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: Jewish quotas you know, at Ivy League schools, including Harvard

1636
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: in the twenties, when too many Jews were getting in

1637
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: through academic Harvard got to Jewish and they're like, whoa,

1638
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: we got to put in a quota to make there

1639
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: be less Jews at Harvard. That was what they did, right,

1640
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: So they came up with, you know, other sorts of

1641
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: measurements that they waited about character and so forth to

1642
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: keep you know, to to institute a quota without saying

1643
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: that they were. And what Jews did in those days

1644
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: where they started their own schools, they went to other

1645
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 1: schools and made them better. Frankly, and I'm sure that

1646
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: other populations in this country could do the same thing.

1647
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: This is you know, you can't stop people from succeeding.

1648
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: So I don't worry too much about this. But I

1649
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,799
Speaker 1: think just as an ideal, it's just a terrible practice

1650
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: and it's not really helping anyone. So um, I think

1651
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: it's worth worth the fight over, you know, just in

1652
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: a bigger picture. I also think that if universities are

1653
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: going to constantly promote the federal government intervening and all

1654
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: issues of race and any issue of discrimination anywhere across

1655
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: the country, whether it's gender discrimination, any number of things,

1656
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: then they should have to live under those laws too.

1657
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that that university, you know, the same

1658
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,839
Speaker 1: reason why you can't say that you have a private

1659
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: business that discriminates in the basis of race or gender

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01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: or anything else. University shouldn't. I know, you say leave

1661
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: them alone, but I don't think they should be allowed to.

1662
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't think they should be exempt from some of

1663
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 1: the very policies that they are most full throated in supporting. Well,

1664
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: my case is this, I just don't think you can

1665
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: really stop people from from having admissions policies that want

1666
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: unless they're discriminating. Obviously that's against the law, but they

1667
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 1: are discriminating well, I'm sorry discriminations against will accept this

1668
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: kind of discrimination against it. But I think I think, yeah,

1669
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: I think that's going to change. I think they could

1670
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: get away with it as long as it was white

1671
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: students and and that was the perception. But now there's

1672
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: enough data to show that that's that's not in fact

1673
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: the case, David, I gotta leave it there with you,

1674
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: but the Federalist dot Com from of David's latest and

1675
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: also follow him at David Harsanyi on Twitter. Thank you,

1676
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: sir for joining. Great to have you, always a pleasure.

1677
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know, there are many things about the

1678
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,799
Speaker 1: Trump administration that I really like that I really support.

1679
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: I come here and I talked to you about them,

1680
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: but taking on affirmative action is one of the ones

1681
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: that I am honestly most supportive of because it is

1682
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: an argument that is just completely steeped in emotionalism, lies, distractions,

1683
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 1: and it's just illogical. And that the Trump administration now

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Speaker 1: has decided to use the d o J to look

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01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: into discrimination in college admissions is a fantastic idea. You know,

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01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: The New York Times really exposed itself on this issue recently,

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01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: because when this report first broke, it said that they

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01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: were going to be looking into that the Trump administration

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01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 1: will be looking into discrimination against quote whites, even though

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01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: nowhere in the do O j Uh memo that was

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01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: cited was there any mention of white students. They were

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01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 1: just looking for racial discrimination. And this is a very

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01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 1: sensitive area on the left because there are many people

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01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: who have benefited from affirmative action, including at the very

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01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: top of corporate structures. There are people who have benefited

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01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,520
Speaker 1: from it in their educational pursuits, which have led directly

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01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: to improved professional careers. If anybody wants to make the

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01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: case to me, for example, that Barack Obama, who by

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01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 1: his own admission, was a mediocre student at Occidental College

1700
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: in this seventies, which is a third tier college. I

1701
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 1: know that's kind of a snobbish thing to say, but

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01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: it's true. It's just not a not an elite school

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01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. And then he all

1704
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden just turns it on and becomes a

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01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 1: Ivy League guy at Columbia University and then is the

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01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: editor in chief of Harvard Law Review. UM. That would

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01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 1: be quite a story unless there were additional factors taken

1708
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: into account, and there are some who have written about

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01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: how affirmative action has benefited them. Justice Soda Mayor, for example,

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01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: is a fierce defender of affirmative action. But what she

1711
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: really is is a fierce defender of racial preferences. And

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01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: she's a fierce defender of racial preferences for Latin American people,

1713
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: for Latinos, for Hispanics. Uh. And that's politically that has

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01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: been palatable up until pretty recently. You had Justice Saturday

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01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: O'Connor right one of the most idiotic of her rather

1716
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: lame decisions from the bench of the Supreme Court, stating

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01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: that at some point in the future, and she even

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01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 1: gave a date, I think it was, affirmative action would

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01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: not be necessary. I mean, it was staring us right

1720
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: in the face in the form of a Supreme Court

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01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 1: decision that of action is racial discrimination. Did they? There

1722
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,879
Speaker 1: is no way around this. You cannot win the argument otherwise,

1723
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,480
Speaker 1: all you have to do is change around the categorizations,

1724
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, if you had a situation where, uh,

1725
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 1: there were white people who were all deciding that people

1726
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: of another race would be excluded based on a holistic criteria,

1727
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: that would be racism. But if you have holistic criteria

1728
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 1: that is elevating some people over others in the admissions process.

1729
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:35,520
Speaker 1: They want to say that that's not racism. Well, I'm sorry,

1730
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,480
Speaker 1: that's just a crap argument. It's just bogus, it's nonsense.

1731
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: They're not fighting from a winnable position. It is emotionally

1732
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 1: and politically winnable, but from the perspective of logic and

1733
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: reason and truth, they're just fighting a losing battle. The

1734
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Left is fighting a losing battle and this will open

1735
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 1: up many, many wounds. I think on the left. This

1736
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: will be a painful process if they lose this, because

1737
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court will likely be taking this up, and

1738
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: they will be taking it up in the form of

1739
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: discrimination in college admissions against Asian Americans. You see, they've

1740
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: been relying. The Left has been relying on this being

1741
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: an issue of whiteness and white privilege and just completely

1742
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: sneering at the American uh predominantly white middle class kid

1743
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: who wants to go to the school of his dreams.

1744
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 1: You know, sorry, kid, you don't get to go. But

1745
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: somebody who just came across the border from Mexico or

1746
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Central America, who maybe even has a higher socio economic

1747
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,759
Speaker 1: status in this country than you. But because that person's

1748
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 1: last name is Martinez or Lopez, that person can go

1749
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: to Harvard. You are lucky if you get into state school.

1750
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: And that's been the reality. And I know about this.

1751
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 1: I have friends who have worked on the admissions committees

1752
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: of some of the top schools in the country. I've

1753
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: spoken them about it length and in private, because it's

1754
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: an issue that I find so fascinating because it's so

1755
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: obviously wrong. I also went to a scholarship high school

1756
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: with a lot of middle to lower middle class, working

1757
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: class white Catholics, and they were always struggling to get

1758
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: loans for college, other than the federally back loans, but

1759
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean to get grants from college, to get financial aid.

1760
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 1: They were always struggling. And yet some of my fellow

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01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: students who were black or of Latino background, with much

1762
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: less I knew them. They were my friends with much

1763
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 1: lower grade, with much lower s a t. S. They

1764
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: were being courted, they were being celebrated by the top

1765
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Ivy League schools, and they were going to go and

1766
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: not pay a penny. Someone explained to me, why that's fair.

1767
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: Someone explained to me, how that's not racial discrimination, And oh,

1768
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: By the way, my friends named Zoltan and Jay and

1769
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: others from Filipino and Korean backgrounds. These were my classmates.

1770
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: They had phenomenal grades. Do you think that they got

1771
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: courted by Harvard? Do you think that one of my friends,

1772
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned Jay, whose father was working fourteen hours a

1773
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: day to run a little a little delicatests and little Delhi,

1774
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: a grocery store one of the outer boroughs of Queens,

1775
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: struggling and struggling to support his family. Spoke no English whatsoever?

1776
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Did Jay have white privilege? Well, he was Korean and

1777
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: he struggled to get into a school that was of

1778
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 1: the level that he deserved to go to. He was

1779
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: a brilliant kid. But you see, he didn't fit into

1780
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: one of the left's victim categories. So Asian Americans are

1781
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: where this breaks down for the left because now they

1782
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: have to make the argument that it is about quotas,

1783
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: because if it's not about quotas, then they say it

1784
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: has to be about diversity. But if it's about diversity,

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01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: what Asians don't count being from India, being from the Philippines,

1786
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: being from Korea or China. That is not diversity. Now,

1787
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: someone explained what concept of diversity we're really talking about here.

1788
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: So and if it's if it's about diversity, then you

1789
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: can't take into account what the specific percentages are. But

1790
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 1: you see, it's all built on dishonesty. Harvard and these

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01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,919
Speaker 1: other schools take the same amount, roughly within a percentage

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01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: or two, of Black students and Hispanic students and Pacific

1793
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 1: Islander students year in and year out. Well, you're gonna

1794
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: tell me the applicant pools exactly the same every year.

1795
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Harvard has something along the lines of thirty five thousand

1796
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 1: applicants a year. There's there's no variation. And how many

1797
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: qualified African American or qualified uh Latino American students are applying.

1798
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: Does anyone really believe that, I mean, just Harvard think

1799
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: that the rest of the country is full of morons? No,

1800
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 1: they just well maybe they do actually because it's Harvard.

1801
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: But they think they can get away with this because

1802
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: there are that the left is really deeply politically attached

1803
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 1: to this narrative, not only because it's a giveaway and

1804
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: it's one thing that can point to with their victimology

1805
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: narrative of oh, you're so oppressed your ethnic group, your

1806
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: identity group, is so suppressed by white privilege in this country. Well,

1807
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: we support a firm of action. Were Democrats were the

1808
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: good people? But why don't Asians get it exactly? Oh,

1809
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, because it's so easy. If you come here

1810
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: from Indonesia and your parents don't speak any English, and

1811
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: you have no socio economic advantage to speak of, but

1812
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: just work really hard and get good grades, You've had

1813
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: some privilege. Doesn't anyone in this country have that same

1814
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: quote privilege? The left argument can't stand up to scrutiny here,

1815
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 1: and they are just so emotionally wedded to this. And

1816
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,719
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who at the very

1817
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: time up of the leftist hierarchy of power in this country,

1818
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: who have directly benefited from affirmative action and if it

1819
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: were deemed to be discrimination by the Supreme Court. And

1820
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 1: I believe that finally we are approaching that point in time.

1821
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Not only will our colleges and universities have to deal

1822
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: with the fact, have to face up to the fact

1823
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 1: that they have. While they've been spouting all these lines

1824
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:29,520
Speaker 1: about inclusion and diversity and multiculturalism, they have been actively

1825
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: discriminating on the basis of skin color. They've been doing

1826
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: that for decades now at the expense of more deserving students.

1827
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 1: They've been doing that, and they've been lying to the

1828
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,520
Speaker 1: American people by pretending that they're not opper operating quotas

1829
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 1: because the Supreme Court said, no quotas, but you can

1830
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 1: take your holistic approach. Their holistic approach has just been

1831
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: a ruse. It is an excuse for racial discrimination. It

1832
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: is unconstitutional. The federal government has an obligation to withhold

1833
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,879
Speaker 1: funds from schools that engage in this. And I'm sorry,

1834
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: but the left, the Democrats, and the media no longer

1835
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 1: get to pick groups and say we like you more

1836
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: than this other group. We're going to help you get

1837
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: into college with lesser grades and lesser s A t

1838
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: s and a less impressive background. Because as much as

1839
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: this upsets people, that's what is happening. And anybody whoever

1840
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 1: would want to debate this with the I would welcome it.

1841
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Bring it. They will get annihilated because they have no

1842
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 1: ground to stand on here. This is a giveaway to

1843
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: leftist identity politics. The Democrat Party is now largely wedded

1844
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: to this idea and has many of its own leaders

1845
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: have benefited from this, and so yes. At the end

1846
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: of the day, we have to realize is that a

1847
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of very prominent Democrats and Republicans too have been

1848
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: the beneficiaries of racial discrimination. The only form of discrimination

1849
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 1: that is currently enshrined and law on this country affirmative

1850
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: action in colleges and universities and in hiring. It needs

1851
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 1: to stop. It's unconstitutional, and Trump darnate is doing the

1852
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: right thing by fighting on this one. I'm with him.

1853
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: One more fun thing to throw in the mix as

1854
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 1: we close up shops today here in the Freedom Hunt.

1855
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 1: The term illegal alien. Oh, it's so contentious. It's one

1856
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 1: that gets immigration activist, community organizers, the media, the left,

1857
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: they get so fired up over this term. They absolutely

1858
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: hate it because it's even worse in their eyes than

1859
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: the almost equally vicious and xenophobic and racist illegal immigrant term.

1860
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: They prefer undocumented immigrant because what they're really hoping to

1861
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:50,440
Speaker 1: do is, of course, to control the language and conflate

1862
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 1: immigrants with illegal immigrants, that they're all just anyone who

1863
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: wants to come here in any capacity is an immigrant.

1864
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: We're a nation immigrants, and we're going to through the

1865
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: jobs Americans won't do. We need immigrants etcetera, etcetera. It's

1866
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 1: essential for the propaganda to understand the terminology. By the way,

1867
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: those of you who want a great and quick read,

1868
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: just go through George Orwell's essay Politics and the English Language.

1869
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: This is not new he he talks about well, the

1870
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 1: illegal immigrant, the legal alien debate maybe new, but Orwell

1871
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: back in the thirties was writing about how controlling words

1872
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: and specifically using words that do not mean what they

1873
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: seem to mean, or that are intentionally obfuscating confusing the

1874
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: issue is one of the oldest political tricks in the book. Right,

1875
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 1: So we see this with undocumented immigrants. We now see

1876
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: this with the change from gay rights to gay marriage

1877
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: to marriage equality. There are so many different ways that

1878
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: language automatically influences and eventually controls political debate, and it's

1879
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: essential to pay attention to that and all of our

1880
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: talks and all of our discussions. I remember back, even

1881
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: in high school, I said that a group was or

1882
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: I referred to myself as being supportive of a group

1883
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 1: that was pro life. And I had a young woman

1884
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 1: who was a friend of mine, very in a very

1885
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: snippy fashion, correct me and say you mean you're anti choice,

1886
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: And I was very young. I was maybe seventeen or

1887
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 1: eight at the time, but I still remember looking at

1888
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: her thinking, do you know how dumb you sound? Do

1889
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: you know how idiotic that is? Some people are just

1890
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: in need of a buck slap, my friends. And that's

1891
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 1: that's one instance when you look at this, uh, the

1892
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: illegal alien undocumented immigrant debate is a place where it

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Speaker 1: seems maybe at first like we can see this ground,

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Speaker 1: but I'm telling you it's important. It's essentially you can't

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Speaker 1: just let the other side literally dictate the terms of bait.

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Speaker 1: If you let them do that, they have an advantage.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason that the left gets so upset about

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Speaker 1: using the term illegal alien because it reinforces both the

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Speaker 1: illegality of the act as well as the externality of

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Speaker 1: the person involved. These are not US citizens, These are

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Speaker 1: not US persons. They are from somewhere else, and they

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Speaker 1: are breaking our laws. That's why illegal alien is such

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Speaker 1: an important term to use. This whole argument. When they

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Speaker 1: start to say, well, it dehumanizes, that's what they'll they'll say,

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Speaker 1: it's a racial slur, which okay, so how is it

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Speaker 1: a racial slur if a blonde haired, blue eyed Croatian

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Speaker 1: who's in the country illegally is an illegal alien, the

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Speaker 1: same way a Somali or a Mexican or a Filipino

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Speaker 1: is an illegal alien. Someone explained to me how it's

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Speaker 1: a racial slur, but they're just hoping to shut down debate. Again,

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Speaker 1: there is a very clear impetus, a very clear uh

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Speaker 1: directive on the left to dictate the terms of debate

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Speaker 1: as a means of influencing and dominating the debate. So

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Speaker 1: they will also say that it's dehumanizing and legal alien

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Speaker 1: and alien doesn't sound like a human being, And to

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Speaker 1: that I would always just respond, Okay, well, when you

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Speaker 1: constantly refer to somebody in the law as a convicted felon,

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Speaker 1: for example, that's pretty rough. That's dehumanizing. But if it well,

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Speaker 1: if illegal alien is the humanizing, that's certainly dehumanizing. But

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Speaker 1: it's a descriptive term for a specific thing. Now, just

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Speaker 1: because somebody is a convicted felon doesn't mean they're not

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Speaker 1: a human being, doesn't mean they don't have rights. In fact,

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Speaker 1: plenty of people in this country, unfortunately, are convicted felons

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Speaker 1: who aren't bad people and didn't even really do anything

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Speaker 1: that bad. But our government has allowed itself to write

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Speaker 1: far too many laws that cover things that are non

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Speaker 1: criminal in terms of the ethics and morality involved, and

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Speaker 1: we do not have strong enough defenses in place. Legal

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Speaker 1: defense is in place for those who just get caught

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Speaker 1: up in the patchwork of endless, stupid criminal federal and

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Speaker 1: state and local regulations. So that's a discussion, I suppose

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Speaker 1: for another day, But it's important. This illegal aliens discussion

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Speaker 1: is important. It's not something that we should just leave

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Speaker 1: off to the side. And Jeff's Sessions has started to

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Speaker 1: use the term illegal aliens. The d J put out

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Speaker 1: a press release earlier this earlier last month that said

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Speaker 1: the following Attorney Gentleal Jeff's Sessions met with families who

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Speaker 1: have lost loved ones because of crimes committed by illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: In the meeting, they discussed the progress being made by

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration to strengthen laws protecting Americans from crimes

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Speaker 1: committed by illegal aliens, and the need to work to

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Speaker 1: ensure that federal immigration laws are enforced. So it's an

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Speaker 1: official d o J press release that refers to illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: I should also note for all of the poorly read,

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Speaker 1: poorly informed media and leftist critics out there. Illegal aliens

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Speaker 1: appears many times in the Federal Criminal Code. It is,

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Speaker 1: in fact the legal term for what someone is when

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Speaker 1: they're in the country in violation of immigration law. So

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Speaker 1: let's not be whimps on this. Let's not allow them

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Speaker 1: to beat us into submission with their word policing. We

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Speaker 1: are being accurate, they are being dishonest, they are dissembling,

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Speaker 1: and we shouldn't allow it. So illegal aliens, my friends,

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Speaker 1: that is the term illegal immigrant. Also, um, well, no, actually,

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Speaker 1: I think legal immigrant is wrong because you're not an immigrant.

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Speaker 1: If you don't go through the immigration process, you're somebody

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Speaker 1: who shows up here in violation of law. Illegal alien

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Speaker 1: is the term. I'm gonna try to use it consistently

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Speaker 1: here on the show and without my friends, I will

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