1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Woke f Daily with 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker, Folks. 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: On today's episode, I get into a in depth conversation 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: with my friend, doctor Christina Greer, who is the Associate 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: professor of political science at Fordham University. And you know, 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: I always love my conversations with Christina over the years. 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: If you've been listening to Woke for quite some time, 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: or if you've listened to my other podcast, Democracy Issue, 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: you've definitely heard doctor Greer. And I adore my conversations 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: with her so much because she is working to inspire, teach, 11 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and uplift the next generation of political scientists and next 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: generation of you know, young people who are God willing, 13 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: going to be global citizens, going to be active participants 14 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: in our democracy. And I laugh, I laugh because you 15 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: will hear in the conversation with Christina about whether or 16 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: not she thinks that we are going to have a democracy, 17 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: whether or not it matters what happens during midterm elections, 18 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: if in fact, the backsliding has been so detrimental that 19 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: she doesn't see a path forward. I asked a series 20 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: of questions, because you know, you guys know me. While 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I joke a lot of the times and say that 22 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: I am always holding on to that mustard seed of hope, 23 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: there is no bun. I truly believe that is more 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: hopeful than me, because otherwise, why the thought would I 25 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: wake up every day and turn on a microphone and 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: turn on my computer, and turn on my phone, and 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: try and wake as many people up as possible, whether 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: it's one or one hundred. You know, I believe that 29 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: my responsibility on this planet is to weigh people up 30 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to their power and to make them conscious of the 31 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: ways in which our society, systemic powers that be work 32 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: to take advantage of people. Right that work to take 33 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: advantage of whether it is people's ignorance, whether it is 34 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: people's lack of time, because they work multiple jobs to 35 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: be able to just afford the bare minimum right, which 36 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: is shelter, clothing, and food. There are systems at play 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: that are not put in place to uplift the most marginalized. 38 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it is to make sure 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: that they stay that way. Then, to make sure that 40 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: people are in such a desperate situation that they'll take 41 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: whatever shit job is put in front of them. And then, 42 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: of course we create laws that allow for those people 43 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: that run those businesses to not provide healthcare, to not 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: provide safe working conditions, and people have to show up. 45 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Why because they're desperate, right, and we've squeezed them of 46 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: their power, of their will, and all they can do 47 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: is keep their head above water. And so I feel, 48 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: in the position of privilege that I have to be 49 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: able to digest and analyze all that is going on 50 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: and deliver it to people in a digestible way, so 51 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: that people are reminded that they do have power, that 52 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: they do have a voice, and that when we link 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: up with like minded people. And I don't mean like 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: minded as in they love the same way, they look 55 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: the same way, they pray the same way, or so 56 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: on and so forth. I mean like minded in the 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: idea of equity, right, in the idea of understanding what 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: justice means right, and that it shouldn't be a designation 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: of your level of melanin that we have a shared 60 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: understanding that everyone, everyone in this country, everyone frankly on 61 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: this planet, should be able to live free from violence, 62 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: to live free from fear of oppression and subjugation and 63 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: sexual violence. And you know, and race and all of 64 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: these things. And so when I say like minded, that's 65 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who believe 66 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: that they are citizens on this planet right, that we are, 67 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, all human. And you know, I know that 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: for some people in saying that, you know, it can 69 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: sound you know, polyannaish, but it isn't right. Like, the 70 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: whole purpose of the language that republicans and fascist regimes 71 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: and authoritarians and dictators use is about dehumanization, because when 72 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: you detach people from their humanity, then you can mistreat 73 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: them any which way that you want, because they're not 74 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: like you. They're animals, right, they belong in cages, they 75 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: warrant death. Right. When you dehumanize people and you devalue them, 76 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: then you can treat them any type of way. So 77 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: I believe that my work here on this planet is 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: to wake as many people up to their power, to 79 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: their purpose, and to their path as possible. And I 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: think that if there is one of you that is 81 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: out there that is listening that says, oh now, I 82 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: get it right. In an alarm bell, a light lightning 83 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: bulb hits, a light bulb flashes, then it is your 84 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: responsibility to then wake up the next person, and so 85 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: on and so forth until we are all conscious, right, 86 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: because we can't fight this war asleep, and that is 87 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: what they are hoping, is that we will remain in 88 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: a slumber, that we will think that things will just 89 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: be okay, and that we don't need to take any 90 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: action therefore right. But we do. And so in this 91 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: conversation with my good good friend doctor Christina Greer, we 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: dig into the ways in which we need to keep hope, 93 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: that we need to educate, and that we need, more 94 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: importantly than ever in this midterm election to vote. That 95 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: conversation is coming up next. It's no secret that the 96 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: news is horsepill hard to swallow. Thankfully, there's The Bituation 97 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: Room podcast hosted by comedian and commentator Francesca Freer and 98 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Tini for a lighter take on the heavy stuff. Each week, 99 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: the Bituation Room brings you progressive comedians, experts, and activists 100 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: to break down the issues in a way that won't 101 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: just leave you crying under a weighted blanket. Get The 102 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: Bituation Room on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and streaming on 103 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: YouTube and Twitch. Folks, you know, I am always so 104 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: excited when I get to Welcome back to woke EPP Daily. 105 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: My friend and colleague in the Twitter sphere and world 106 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: of politics, doctor Christina Greer, who you know as an 107 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: associate professor at Fordham University. She is also the author 108 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: of Black Ethnics, co host of FAQ NYC, and host 109 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: of the Blackest Questions um at the Grio Black Pods. 110 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Greer, good, good, good, the good doctor day. No 111 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: sus right now and this fuckery diagnose America right now 112 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: in where we are because if if if I'm a doctor, 113 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, we gotta pull the plug because the surgery 114 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: don't look like it's worked. Um so what is yours? 115 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: So we should have had my sister on this episode 116 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: because she's the real doctor, right right. She always teases me. 117 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: She's like, you know what happens if there's an emergency, 118 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna read somebody a book. Oh damn. She's my 119 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: best friend, but she's she's a harsh one. Um So 120 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: here's what I would say if I'm diagnosing America. We 121 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: have We've got a disease to the bones, right and 122 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: the question is do we amputate? Do we not do anything? 123 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: What is the medicine and the good thing is, you know, 124 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: sometimes miracles do happen. I'm not saying that we have one, 125 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: but you know, I'm always cautiously optimistic, and I'm pragmatic 126 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: in my optimism. I do think that there are some 127 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: people who are waking up, those like sleeper cells that 128 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: are the good guy. Do I think that white men 129 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: and white women who are completely supporting herschel Walker and 130 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: his nonsense, and Ron Johnson Wisconsin and his nonsense, and 131 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: doctor Oz and his nonsense. Do I really think that 132 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: those people who are oathkeepers in January sixth, sympathizers and apologist, 133 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: are they gonna make up? No, We're moving on without them. 134 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: But there are some people who, you know, kept telling 135 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: themselves like, oh, it's about the tax breaks and the 136 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: rhetorics not that bad, and they're slowly seeing just as 137 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: every sort of civil rights icon and leader has always 138 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: told us Malcolm X Audrey, Lord, Frederick Douglas a journal 139 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: truth like one day it will be you come on 140 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: that they come for. And so I think some white 141 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: women are waking up and realizing that, you know, this 142 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: Dab's decision is going to affect them and their families, 143 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: not just that they have daughters, if they have sons. 144 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: Come on, let's not ten that only Democrats are having sex, 145 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: because Republicans do love some unprotected and rerebarrittal sex as well. 146 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: So stop putting it all on the Democrats. Stop putting 147 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: all in women of color. So I do think that 148 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Republicans have a great chance of overplaying their hands in 149 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: the sense that you've got Republicans constantly voting against hurricane 150 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: relief and refusing to work with the federal government. Are 151 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: you going to turn down Joe Biden's assistance in this 152 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: moment of need. Some of them are crazy enough and 153 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: ideological enough to be like, yeah, we will. So you know, 154 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: you and I have both been on TV with John 155 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: to the Metico, and he has dying of whiteness. He 156 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: comes on the show every week. This is our good 157 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: in house doctor. Yeah, this is where we are. It's 158 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: like we're literally seeing white people. They would rather die yep, 159 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: literally yep, then offer assistance to someone, to lend a 160 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: hand to someone, to lend a hand to themselves, which 161 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: is wild. So when I'm optimistic, though, I think that 162 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who are like, listen, 163 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: this direction is just too much. We can't have swastikas 164 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: and Confederate flags as as okay symbols. We can't take 165 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: away a woman's right to choose because it's not about 166 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: pro life, because these are the same people who believe 167 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: in the death penalty. Come on, these are the same 168 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: people who will starve children just because their parents are 169 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: my rents or undocumented or homeless. Right, so we can't. 170 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: We Democrats have to be better at the rhetoric too. 171 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, I refuse to say the phrase pro life. 172 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as pro life. Not with these people. 173 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: It's choice and anti choice. Are you literally saying that 174 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: a grown ass woman cannot have autonomy over her body? 175 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: That is what you're saying, that's what you're voting for. 176 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Say that a woman of sound mind cannot have autonomy 177 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: over her own body, even if she's raped or insect 178 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: to say nothing of Maybe I have a full time 179 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: job and I just don't want to have a baby 180 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: right now for whatever reason. It's my business, it's my choice. 181 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that the Democrats can organize themselves and 182 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: organize a message and stop leaning into Republican talking points 183 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: as a weak defense, and really articulate a vision to say, 184 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: like pay attention, people, stop, Like if it sounds crazy, 185 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: it's because it's crazy. Right. Your gas is down, your 186 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: job prospects are better than they have been. You know, 187 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: you look at the governors that didn't take COVID seriously, 188 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: those people are dead or have long COVID and will 189 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: be on the doles for a really really long time. Like, 190 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: let's have some real conversations about what the two parties 191 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: are doing. Neither are perfect, we get it, but like 192 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: they are definitely this is not a boom boo through 193 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, booth sides or a mess that is absolutely 194 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: not true. That's a lazy argument, and I think Democrats 195 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: need to walk voters through why that absolutely isn't true 196 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: and why they're literally trying to keep this country alive 197 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: and keep the people in it alive as well. So, 198 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: you know, me as being the person who does not 199 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: who doesn't mince words and comes in hot, and I 200 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: think I need to come in hot all the time 201 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like most motherfuckers are asleep. And you know, 202 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: I say that because I still am uncertain whether a 203 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: majority of white women who voted for Donald Trump in 204 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and twenty twenty have woken up to the 205 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: reality that they're no longer free right, and they have 206 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: always predicated their decision making on that of their proximity 207 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: to their white fathers and their white husbands. And so 208 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: I am not convinced right that enough white women are 209 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: shook in a way that still requires the Democratic Party 210 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: to try and pander two folks that have never voted Democrat, 211 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean not in the last at least fifty years. 212 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: So my question to you is, you know, as I 213 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: continue to yell from the rooftop, that I do believe, Christina, 214 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: that this is our last midterm elections. I believe that 215 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: if we the people, if we the people do not 216 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: pull off this midterm elections for Democrats, I believe that 217 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: this is it. I don't care what happens in twenty 218 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: twenty four because Congress, maybe not the Senate, but the 219 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: erosion right and the coup will continue and now have 220 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: even more legs because there'll be more Republican members who 221 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: are election deniers in the House of Representatives than not. 222 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: And so I am wondering do people get it, like 223 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: and you know, like do they understand because look, I'm 224 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: looking I like to consider myself a global citizen, and 225 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking around the world and I see an new aligning, 226 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: a new world order coming in to play. That should 227 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: be foreshadowing, that should be alarm, you know, raising And 228 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: yet the media doesn't talk about it in that way. 229 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: And so do you think that the people are getting it? 230 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: And particularly the students that you engage with every single 231 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: day at Fortnum? You know, what, where are their minds 232 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: at as young people right now? Where what are they 233 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: thinking about this? This this make or break moment for 234 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: our democracy? Yeah, so you've given me a lot. Let 235 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: me just I'll start from your last question and work 236 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: my way back. So I have, you know, an incomplete sample, 237 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: because I have students who are interested in politics, so 238 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what some of the non politics students 239 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: are interested in. The reason though, why I do teach 240 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Intro to Politics every semester, even though I'm a show 241 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: associate chair and like a senior faculty member, where it's 242 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: very rare that someone of my stature, if you would say, 243 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: would teach an intro that's kind of beneath a lot 244 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: of older professors, if you will, I think it's the 245 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: most important class. It's the introductory class. So instead of 246 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: having adjuncts or you know, folks that don't have the 247 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: same foundation, instead of having them teach it, I want 248 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: to teach it because it's like that's how I steal 249 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: all the smart kids from other majors too, and get 250 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: them interested in politics and take it really seriously. The 251 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: students I have now are really frustrated. You know, I'm 252 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: throwing a lot at them because it's do you forget? 253 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: I have to explain to them what this country was 254 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: from the beginning times, how we used to do things, 255 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: then the Trump era, and now where we are at 256 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,479 Speaker 1: the fallout and kind of the precipice. So my historical 257 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: foundation is like multifold now, so I've got to cut 258 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: through a lot of information gave. It's sort of like 259 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: before times. Then it's kind of like nineteen fifty two 260 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: to the present, but now it's like nineteen fifty two 261 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen, sixteen to twenty twenty, and then it's 262 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: like twenty twenty to the to the president, and then 263 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so where do you all see yourselves? 264 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: You know? I really try and have them imagine, you know, 265 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: some of these questions, and I'm like, you will be 266 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: called on to answer these questions, either because you're an 267 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: elected or you work for an elected I'm also always 268 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: having them think about different jobs. So not everybody wants 269 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: to be an elected official. I don't you know, people 270 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: ask us this all the time, right because we're on TV. 271 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to be elected inficial. But you know, 272 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: I was like, if you're artsy, you know you can 273 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: design posters and fonts like all that stuff. You know, 274 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: if you want to go to law, like election law 275 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: is real preventing people from going to prison with campaign 276 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: finance violations, like, there are a lot of different things. 277 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: Now to your question, where are my students? They are 278 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: very frustrated that it seems as though on a weekly basis, 279 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: we can find billions of dollars for other countries and 280 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: we can't seem to find it for the student debt. 281 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: That is a question because they're they're first or second years, 282 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: but they're already looking down the barrel of thousands of dollars, 283 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: as are their parents, and mind, you know, this is 284 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: gen Z. So they're like, we know we ain't got stuff. 285 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: Our parents barely have anything, like the good old days 286 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: are done. And they know if they want to go 287 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: to graduate school, it's gonna be even more dead. So 288 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: they know the death that they're already in and the 289 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: death that they're going to accumulate. They are thirtain there 290 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: and it's not like they're cold hearted snakes, like they're 291 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: just like, we stand with the people of Ukraine, right, 292 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: we stand with Afghanistan, we stand with you know, Pakistan, 293 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: whatever the crisis may be in the news. But when 294 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: we talk about Ukraine, what's really fascinating is they always 295 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: preface it's like, we stand with Ukraine. I'm not saying 296 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: that I don't. But it was thirty billion this week, 297 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: billion last week we got another twenty five billion. So 298 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: it's just like, where's this money coming from? And how 299 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: can we can find it so quickly? And where's my money? 300 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: And then knowing, you know, we talk about paying taxes 301 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: and the importance of paying taxes and how they probably 302 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: won't have some security and all these things. So there's 303 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: there's that piece where we're sort of seeing ourselves as 304 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: global citizens, but also what does it mean to be 305 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: a domestic citizen because some of them are like, well, 306 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: I have relatives in Florida and it doesn't look like 307 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: they're going to get relieve anytime soon. Or I have 308 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: relatives in Puerto Rico. They're still reeling from Hurricane Maria. 309 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, Biden just gave them sixty 310 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: million dollars M to Puerto Rico, not be gave three 311 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: billion last week to Ukraine, right, sixty million M to 312 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, because I mean, like realistically, like come on, 313 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: and if you've seen the damage in her in in 314 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and we know that they're still reeling from Maria, 315 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars is like me, Danielle, sorry, your house 316 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: is flooded. I got twenty one twenty US dollars. That's 317 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: the equivalent of it. Yeah, like carl I gave you 318 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: twenty dollars, like is flooded? Like and don't you still 319 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: have those paper towels from Trump? Exactly? So you know, 320 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: and which also lends to really interesting conversations about like 321 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican statehood in dcidood and what that would mean 322 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: to have a whole bunch of black and Latino people 323 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: probably in the Democratic Party, and why it is that 324 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: we're not going to have a hundred four senators and 325 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: then we'd have to redistribute the four thirty five across 326 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: these two new states. I mean, so having them see 327 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: politics in real time and how it really works is 328 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: really important for me, because this isn't a theory that 329 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: we can read on the page all the time. Oh well, 330 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: why is the Puerto Rico a state? It's like, well, 331 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: right now we know they're in crisis. So the US 332 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: would actually be responsible, right and would really need to 333 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: take her report Rico as opposed to this sixty million 334 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: dollars insult. So backing into it to other parts of 335 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: your question, No, I don't think white women are going 336 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: to have a great moment of agnorisis like, oh my gosh, 337 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: like I've been upholding patriarchy and I'm also a victim. Like, No, 338 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that that will happen, But I do 339 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: have faith that there's going to be a small percentage 340 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: that have a little bit of movement in wiggle room. 341 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: And I do think that quietly some Republican women not 342 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: enough to you know, change the tide, but I do 343 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: think some of them might quietly vote or abstain from 344 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: certain races and certain individuals, just because I do think 345 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: that in certain places these people are really overplaying their hands, 346 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, the primate. Think about it this way. We've 347 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: got those six states that have those election deniers that 348 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: are at the top of the ticket, But who votes 349 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: in a primary except for like your die hards, and 350 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: so there are a lot of kind of middle of 351 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: the road quasi middle of the road. I mean, listen, 352 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: if you're still a Republican, you're in for opinion for 353 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: a pound, Like you were saying, the misogyny and the 354 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: racism and the anti immigrant sentiments and anti Muslim, anti Jewish, 355 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: anti black, anti anti anti you're basically saying, that's okay. 356 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: But for whatever at tax break reason you say, I'm 357 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: a Republican. Still sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. 358 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: But I do think that some of those people who 359 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily participate in a primary are going to come 360 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: into a general and be like this person seems a 361 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: little crazy. Now. I don't know if that's going to 362 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: work in all six states, but I do think that 363 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: there's enough wiggle room, and I think that there are 364 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: going to be some Democrats, hopefully who are galvanized, to 365 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: be like, yo, this could be our last free and 366 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: fair election if I don't step up. But that also 367 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: goes to the larger Democratic Party, where it's like, you 368 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: have to give people a reason to come out and vote. 369 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: The cost of voting time money, you know, some people 370 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: have to drive, they have to pay for gas, they 371 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: got to get a sitter, whatever. So my question is this, 372 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Jamie Harrison, where are you and what are you doing? Sir? 373 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Wake up? Because I would think that I would see 374 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: you on the news every day walking me through this 375 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: fifty stage strategy. I would think that I would see 376 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: you articulating this vision about what are we all supposed 377 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: to be doing. I live in New York. We're pretty 378 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: We're pretty good to go, I mean, and I'm not 379 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: going to take it for granted. Kathy Hokel is facing 380 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 1: a Trump fist. Lee Zelden, who you know, is an 381 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: election denier, like he is crazy. New York has our 382 00:21:54,760 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: own wing of It's called Upstate and Long Island and 383 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Loki half of Brooklyn, Moses Staten Island, a significant portion 384 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: of Queens, a quiet section of Manhattan, and a sprinkling 385 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: in the Bronx. Like, let's all be clear, there are 386 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: a lot of people who were into this Trump. January sixth, 387 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: quasi fascist fascist Lee Zeldon train. So I'm not going 388 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: to take that for granted. But we're not Pennsylvania. We're 389 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: not Wisconsin right now, we're not Florida, we're not Arizona. 390 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: Jamie Harrison, why aren't you telling me what my marching 391 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: orders are? Okay, don't know. Besides, okay, fine, give some 392 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: money if I know who the races are. But like, 393 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: what are our marching orders? Should I be making phone calls? 394 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: Like what should we be doing? Who are the surrogates, 395 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: what's the message, what's the mobilization, what's the motivation? Because 396 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: some people don't understand. When you and I say this 397 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: could be our last real election, these people get ahold 398 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: of it. They already said they're going to impeach Biden 399 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: for what. I don't know. I'm impeach them just because 400 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: you impeach my president twice when Trump and his egregious nonsense. 401 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: But they just said they're going to start impeach everybody. 402 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: So Kamala, Harris, Biden, you name it, though, impeach members 403 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court, Johns, Brown, Jackson, who cares? So 404 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: we know that that's what they're gonna do. We know 405 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the time is of the essence, and we know that 406 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: we can barely get stuff with unified government that's the House, Senate, 407 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: and President all being of the same party. So if 408 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: we have divided government, which means even one of them 409 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: of the different parties, so if the Republicans get even 410 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: the Senate or the House, nothing will get done. Hardly 411 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: anything got done anyway because of mansion in cinema. So 412 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: we know that if Democrats don't gain seats, if they 413 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: lose anything, it's a complete and total gridlock slash deadlock. 414 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: So Jamie Harrison, Joe Biden, what are we to do? 415 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Tell us because right now we have all these diffew 416 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: strategies but no central messaging. And I think that's also 417 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: part of the frustration of a lot of Democrats, where 418 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: it's like this is a mass, we could win it, 419 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: and we could be mobilizing, you know, like they're parts 420 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: of what's going on in Florida, where you could be 421 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: linking this to the fascist governments that many of these 422 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Latinos have fled and tying that directly around to Santis's neck. 423 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: You could make some real clear, crisp connections. But then 424 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: you left this country. But Christine, and this is this 425 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: is what they will say now is not the time. 426 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: Let's not let's not politicize this right because you can 427 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: make so many links to the fact that here comes 428 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Ron de Santis out of Florida, hat in hand, wanting 429 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: to collect his welfare for his state for um federal 430 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: relief for this hurricane. Meanwhile, when he was in Congress, 431 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: voted against hurricane relief funding for Sandy and then also 432 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: used leftover COVID relief funds to pull a political, a 433 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: cruel political stunt in order to get his name across 434 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: Fox News. And so here's the thing I said, you know, 435 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: let me be the petty president of the United States 436 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: and go tell the Santists, why don't you go collect 437 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: that twelve million dollars that you were using on charter 438 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: planes to go drop off migrants in Martha's vineyard and 439 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: go see if that works for you. Get a behind 440 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: the scenes look at Comedy Central's The Daily Show. Beyond 441 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: the Scenes, an original podcast from The Daily Show with 442 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Trevor Noah. Every week, host Roy Wood Junior goes deeper 443 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: with the notable guests and experts from the Emmy Award 444 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: winning series. 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Help yourself? Dude? 458 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: What I want to say, What I want to say 459 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: to you, what you have said to black and brown 460 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: people since the beginning of time with your votes, It's 461 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: go help yourself. Right. Here's here's the thing that Democrats 462 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: still don't understand. It's like, you'll give the money because 463 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: you know, they're like, we're all Americans at the time 464 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: of crisis. But then they also won't do say what 465 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: Trump did. Trump was like, I'll give you the stimulus 466 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: check but I'm put my name on it, sir. Not 467 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: only is that ridiculous and illegal, but he's like, but 468 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I want everybody to know I gave it to you. 469 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: So it's like Biden's not gonna make you know because 470 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: even Obama. You remember with Chris Christie, it's like, you 471 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: want this money, You're gonna go on a tour with me. Yep, 472 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: two of us are gonna being out a little police 473 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: vests and lands and jackets, and we're gonna be walking 474 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: around New Jersey. So everyone knows that I gave you 475 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: this money. It's like, Biden, make de Santists show up 476 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: with you with his tin can yeah, make right, and 477 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: then in the time with you, right, and then if 478 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he wants to sing a different tune, right, 479 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: then you pull like pull the money, act like you 480 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: have the power that the people actually gave you, and 481 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: star and start to describe and point out who the 482 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: villain is, Like you don't get to have Disantists come 483 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: in and take federal money and then go on Fox 484 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: News and turn around and want and want to demonize 485 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: Democrats and the Biden administration. Right, and then he didn't 486 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: take the money. I mean like and will say he 487 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: didn't take the money, so he's just miraculous to got money. 488 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: But I think that's the thing. It's, you know, and 489 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't even call it being petty. I think it's 490 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: Democrats don't know how to play like street ball. They're 491 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: just sitting here. We're like, well, you know, it's the 492 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: right thing to do, and it'say, yeah, you can also 493 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: do the right thing. But put some base in your voice. 494 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: Come on, you want this money, tap dance a little 495 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: bit because I'm still gonna give it to you, because 496 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: we're all American people, and people are in crisis. So 497 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: let's not play politics and partisanship right now. But let's 498 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: be abundantly clear. You will go in front of the 499 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: citizens of the state of Florida and you will tell 500 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: them that you are standing here in front of them 501 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: with this check only because of my largesse, only because 502 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: I gave you this money, like you all are living 503 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: because the federal government came in and saved you in 504 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: your time of need. Again, because guess what, you all 505 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: don't believe in climate change. You better talk about climate 506 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: change if I give you this money. Because we can't 507 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: keep dolling out this kind of money every season for hurricanes, 508 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: but we're going to happen. Let's just which is happening, 509 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: Which is happening, because every season is another once in 510 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: a century storm. Every guy damn year is a once 511 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: in a century tornado, one to a century fire, one 512 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: to the century hurricane. And I'm like, so how many 513 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: once in a century things need to happen in five 514 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: years for you to realize that it ain't once in 515 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: a century. And also again being able to connect the 516 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: dots for the people and talk about COVID and talk 517 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: about these viruses. Do you think that this is going 518 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: to be the last time that we have a global 519 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: health pandemic? No, it is not. Why because we have 520 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: glaciers that are melting in the Arctic that have bacteria 521 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: that's been trapped inside of them for a billion years. 522 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Fucking National Geographic comes out and says they're melting. Now, 523 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: we don't know what's going to happen. No, thinker's crossed. Heysten, 524 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: I love the fact that the way was articulated to 525 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 1: me was these glaciers are the world's air conditioner, and 526 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: once they're gone, we don't have a c And I 527 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: was like, that's a real clear way to explain to people, 528 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: because listen, I grew up in a big old house 529 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: in Philly that was designed in a way where you 530 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: can open up the big old windows and put a 531 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: fan in it, and you were fine. But then again, 532 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: I was also a kid and we didn't have a C, 533 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: so I was fine with no AC. Now that I'm 534 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: an adult and I live in an apartment building and 535 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: I recognize that, you know, I'm like, oh, fans are fine, 536 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: and people come over, like, hey girl, I can't come 537 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: to your house because unless you get I got a 538 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: C just so I could actually have people come over. 539 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: If you don't have a C as a globe, we're 540 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: done because that means we also don't have fans either, 541 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: because hot air is hot air, like you know those 542 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: days in July where it's like it doesn't matter that 543 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: you have ten fans. All is doing is move around 544 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: hot hot air, and so yeah, and I'm like, and 545 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: when it's over a hundred degrees outside for straight days 546 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: and weeks, having AC is not a nice to have, 547 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: it is an actual need to have for survival. Right. Well, 548 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean we're also seeing it, just as you said, 549 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: a once in a generation storm it's like, well, I 550 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: don't understand how these cities are having, you know, triple 551 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: digit days, multiple days in a row. It's like, we 552 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen that ever. And it's like, well, guess what. Sadly, 553 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: this is the new normal because we've got half of 554 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: a country that doesn't believe in climate chary. It's like, 555 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't understand how you can live in the path 556 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: of a tornado, in the path of the hurricane, or 557 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: have these extreme winters and extreme summers and still not believe. 558 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I mean, I think, you know, 559 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: so many of these racists in this country are so 560 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: intent on owning the libs and making sure, you know, 561 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: colored people don't get anything. They're literally driving themselves and us, 562 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: but driving themselves also off a cliff, and I think 563 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: they're fine. I mean that goes to the whole Trump thing. 564 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: Trump will burned down this country with himself in it, 565 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: family and friends too. He doesn't care. As long as 566 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, he gets to say that he's right, and 567 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: as long as he gets to say that he's the 568 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: one who who drove the train off the tracks, I 569 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: think that that's fine with him. Last question for you 570 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: and real talk, right, because we're only a couple of 571 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: weeks away from this midterm election. Everybody, including myself and 572 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: you and so many others are saying vote, vote, vote, organized, 573 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: get people to the polls. We need to vote. We 574 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: need to vote. Doctor Christina Grier of political science. Are 575 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: we too late? Is our democracy irreparable at this point? 576 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: Is there a way for us to claw back from 577 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: where we are? Yes? Absolutely, I have in fair inherent 578 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: faith in this country, just because we have evolved a 579 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: lot as a nation, right, I mean, we're not enslaved 580 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: being raped right now, so like, hey, that is some evolution, 581 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: and that was not too long ago that our country 582 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: had a really I mean, that's the problem. Our history 583 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: of this nation has been sort of whitewashed and glossed over, 584 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it's like no, no, this is 585 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: a brutal, bloodthirsty nation that is built on free labor 586 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: from enslaved us, chattel, slavery, genocide of Native people's rape, 587 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, just some of the most horrific conditions you 588 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: could imagine. That's who we are. And we've moved relatively 589 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: far from from that brutal, brutal history in like fifty 590 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: to seven five years, right. I mean, like, let's be clear, 591 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: my grandparents and your grandparents were alive when lynchings were 592 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: like sure, and you know our parents may or may 593 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: not have gone to segregated schools depending on where they 594 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: lived in the United States. So now we have a 595 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: different type of segregation. But you see what I'm saying, 596 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: it's sanctioned in the same way. But I do have 597 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: faith in this country. I do have faith in a 598 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: lot of people to step up, because you know what 599 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: helps when you start talking to like these grassroots organizers 600 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: who've been doing the work for a really long time, 601 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: like they actually have like a vision, a long term vision. 602 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: And I think we give a lot of credit to 603 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: these kind of right wing lunatics who have had a 604 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: long term vision. Right they got to work right after 605 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three with Ruby Wade, and they worked and 606 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: worked and worked for fifty years and they overturned it. 607 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: And it's like, and that's what the work does, and 608 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: we see it. But I'm also really motivated because on 609 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: the other side of the coin, you start asking around, 610 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: it's like there are a lot of these grassroots organizations 611 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: who've been doing this work for a fifty and sixty 612 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: years as well, smaller scale, but like training a new 613 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: generation of people to organize, training young people to see 614 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: this three hundred and sixty degree vision, you know, making 615 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: sure that, like you know, certain systems and institutions are 616 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: in place even as they're being eroded. So I definitely 617 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: think that we get discouraged that we lose elections. Sure, 618 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: don't forget. We just had major wins in twenty twenty, 619 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: followed immediately by January sixth, but we did have some 620 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: series wins. We had unified government, so it's like, oh, okay, 621 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: so folks did what they were supposed to do. We 622 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: might have some losses and that's real. But I think 623 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: part of being black in this country is not giving 624 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: up on her. This is kind of what Baldwin, you know, 625 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: that tension that Baldwin always explained to us. And as 626 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: I finish up this book on fanwell Hammer and Barbara 627 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: Jordan and Stacy Abrams and I had a working title 628 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: and some called it was like, I mean using that 629 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: title for my book. So I was like, okay, I 630 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: have to change my title. But I ended up changing 631 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: the title to like the working title. Right now, it 632 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: is like Black Patriots because like, when I think about 633 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: these three women, it's like they, to me encapsulate what 634 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: real patriotism is, and it's like it's not some hoity 635 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: tweety belief. It's like, oh, this country is so great 636 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: and she can be beautiful. It's like, no, no, no, 637 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: no no. She is a flawed, angry, violent, violent, vicious, cruel, deceptive, line, cheating, stealing, 638 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: you name it. But also there's some really wonderful, hardworking, 639 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: honest people in this country. And the beauty of it 640 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: is sometimes we team up and we get to know 641 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: each other, whether it's we're TV friends or podcast friends 642 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: or organizer friends, or we're neighbors, or it's something where 643 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: we're finding each other and we're connecting and we're putting 644 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: ourselves on the line. You and I both know this 645 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: is not easy work. We get to see some of 646 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: the worst of America in our dms and you know, 647 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter and people who attack us. But the level 648 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: of appreciation though, we also get from people who were like, hey, 649 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Or it's like listening to you, Danielle, 650 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: it's like I've realized I should be angrier than I am, 651 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: and now I'm motivated or it's like listening to your podcast, Danielle, 652 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: I like learned something and now I'm connecting my own 653 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: dots in my own small community. I don't live in 654 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: New York City, but I get it, you know. So 655 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: it's like as an educator, and you know, I always 656 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: bringing the teaching piece because I love I love what 657 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: I do. But I think the best part about being 658 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: an educator is you have to be patient, and so 659 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: I think that's where you know, whenever I come on 660 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: the podcast, and you know, I'm a little bit of 661 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: a hippie, but like still, it's like, there are going 662 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: to be students where I meet them in September. By 663 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: the time they leave me in December, I have seen 664 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: market growth. Like wow, they got it. Literally roots sprouts 665 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: out the ground. And then you realize though that their 666 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: job is an educator or a podcast host or someone 667 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: who goes on television like yourself. You're literally just throwing 668 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: out seeds and you're watering them every day, throwing out 669 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: That's what I do when I go in the classroom. 670 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: So for some in December I see it, I'm like, 671 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: oh wow, that's a big sprout. There are others Danielle, 672 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: where I don't see it for years m and to 673 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: like get a random email that was like, hey, finally 674 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: got what you were saying. Finally see it. And it's 675 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: like I taught you five years ago, I taught you 676 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: ten years ago, but hey, dormant. Some seeds lay dormant. 677 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: That's the point. And like you know, yes, sharecroppers know this, 678 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: some seeds you need to lay dormant because when the 679 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: other ones have sprouted and gone on, you need something 680 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: else to come up to regenerate. Come on. So it's like, 681 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: I think that it's great that some people right now 682 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: are waking up because they actually have a different kind 683 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: of energy than you and I yeah, like, girl, I've 684 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: been waked for decades. Others are like, oh my goodness, 685 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: this is all brand new and I'm super jazzed and 686 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to work on it. And it's like, 687 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: and you know what, now, get to work because your 688 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: level of energy is going to be different than ours, 689 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: because we've been in this struggle for quite some time 690 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: with women who have been in this struggle for quite 691 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: some time, and so our energy is a little different. 692 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: And so I do think that like we can appreciate 693 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: the different pace that we're in as a nation for 694 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: people who work towards making this country a better place, 695 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: in a more equab place, and a more just place. 696 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: I think it's okay that some folks are just like 697 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get it, or I do get it now, 698 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: or I want to get it, so like, keep working 699 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: with me, doctor Christina Greer. This is why you are 700 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: a professor, This is why you are an author, This 701 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: is why your intellect is sought after all over the place. 702 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: Because you just left me inspired and that is a 703 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: tough task. So well, I for you, you know, like 704 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: there is a role for everyone, but I adore you 705 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: because there is a righteous, righteous, legitimate indignation and fire 706 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: that you have that I think is really important where 707 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: it's like someone sometimes has to be the jockey that 708 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: spanks the horse on the bottom, you know, like it 709 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: can't all just be pt cruisers down the boardwalk, you know, 710 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: like we're in an episode of Three's Company. It's not 711 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: that all the time. But I do think that, like 712 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: this is why we all need to be in conversation 713 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: with one another, because I leave your show and I'm like, oh, 714 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: I need to do something, whether it's donate to somebody 715 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: whether it's called some friends, Like what do I need 716 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: to do? My hands might be a little soft this 717 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: election season, so it's time for me to get my 718 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: hands dirty, Like what do I need to do? Like 719 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: who's in Georgia that I know? Who's in Wisconsin? That 720 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: I know, who's in Philly that I know? So I 721 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: can like all hands on deck. But and I think 722 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: that that's important. But you know, as I always tell you, 723 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: we can't be a war all the time. That's right, 724 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: that's all right. There is something to be said about rest, 725 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: and you know I know how to rest. There's one 726 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: saying Chrissy Grier knows how to do is to take 727 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: a break, because we didn't create this problem and it's 728 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: not going to be solved overnight, and we are of 729 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: no use to people if the two of us are 730 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: bedraggled and beaten down and exhausted. And we know what 731 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: this country does love to do is kill black women 732 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: by exhaustion. M I know that's right. I don't want 733 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: to do that. I won't do that because it's not 734 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: fair to people who look up to us to do that. 735 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: AmAm doctor Grier. As always, thank you so much for 736 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: making the time to join wok af We appreciate you, 737 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: we are inspired by you, we are in awe of you, 738 00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: and we thank you. That is it for me today, 739 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: Dear friends on woke f as always, Power to the 740 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: people and to all the people. 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