1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to another summer edition of 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: The Falcon's Final Whistle podcasts. I'm Scott Bear, doing this 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: remotely via technology with my partner in crime, Tory mclaney. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: What's up? How are you? WHOA? I'm good. It's nice 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: to see you in your creepy basement. Yeah, there were 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: some internet troubles and places with better lighting, so now 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: it has a real like Adams Family vibe right now, 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: which I tried to prevent by opening windows and turning 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: on lights, but still haven't quite got there yet. Nonetheless, 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: we're here talking to you in the middle of the 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: deadest of all dead periods in the NFL calendar, still 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: finding plenty of topics about what is I'm gonna call 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: an intriguing Falcons team with plenty of marks. Last year 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: we did our last year Wow times. Last week we 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: discussed some lingering questions between the off season program and 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: training camp. Now we're going to zero in on a 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: topic we plan on getting too last week didn't really 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: have the time to address, and that is training camp 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: battles and which ones we like and kind of setting 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: the stage for what's going to happen at the end 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: of July. The reason why we're going to kind of 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: jump ahead and really focus on training camp. Tory and 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: I are going on summer vacation. It's very exciting, me 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: and the fam. We're going down to the white sand 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: beaches of the Florida Panhandle. Very exciting. And Tory mclaney 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: going to Jamaica. Yeah, I can't wait to do all 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: the Jamaican things. My college friend, she is from Jamaica, 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: So I'm actually going and doing like real Jamaican stuff, 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: like not just like going to resort. I am doing that, 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: but I'm also going to like live with her grandmother 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: for like two days. So I'm very spotted. That's awesome 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: because you do need a little bit of time for 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: laxing on the beach with people just handing you drinks 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: with umbrellas in them. But then you also need to 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: like see the actual culture as well. Sounds like a 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: perfect little combination. Yeah, we're gonna go find some white 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: sand beaches as well. Let the kids run around in 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: water that's clear, which for someone who's used to the 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: having my oceans on the left, the water in the 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Pacific not quite so clear. But nonetheless, we're gonna do 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: all that, and then we're gonna come back and really 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: start the Falcon's Final Whistle podcast every week until Kingdom come, 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: starting the week before training camp with a good preview 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: and an announcement. I'm not gonna give anything off, but 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: we are this duo is turning into a trio. We 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: have a new Falcons features writer, very excited to introduce. 47 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: The only clue I will give is introduce him to you, guys. 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna love him. He's gonna be on podcasts coming up. 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: We're very excited to have him, and stay tuned for 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: that announcement which will come in the coming week. But 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: let's get to the business at hand, Miss mclaney, and 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: that is training camp battles we have coming up. There 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: are a lot of them, which is what happens when 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: you have a roster in transition, when you are trying 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: to build talent, as you've pointed out several times during 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: this offseason, with a multi year strategy. This was not 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: a one draft in free agency period and fix. This 58 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: is a longer term play. So you add people, then 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: you add guys on prove it deals to get right 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: with the cap. And what that strategy creates is a 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of question marks at certain positions. That's not a 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: bad thing, and I think it's gonna push the level 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: of competitiveness. It's gonna make training camp, in my opinion, 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: kind of fun because we're going to see a lot 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: of guys really getting after it as Arthur Smith tries 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: to establish a tone of if you want it, go 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: earn it. So we're gonna get into all those types 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: of things. We're gonna hit the offensive line obviously, maybe 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the linebacker, corps, the edge rusher, not everything is about 70 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: who starts right. And then, of course, as we do 71 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: and will continue to do, we're going to talk some quarterbacks. 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Tori, what do you think what's your number 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: one position battle or area where you're excited to see 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: these guys really get after it this summer. Okay, So 75 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: it's funny that you asked me this because I recently 76 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: went on eleven Alive with Maria Martin, who's one of 77 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: my fellow ladies in sports within the Atlanta area, and 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: she asked me the same question and I said, on TV, 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I go with my whole being said, and I quote 80 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and she laughed about that. When the 81 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: camera's cut She laughed about that for a while. She's like, 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I was not expecting you to say the offensive line, 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: and I was like, honestly, I wasn't easier either, And 84 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: then you asked me, and it was the only answer 85 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: that I really truly felt like compelled to say, because 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are like, oh, quarterbacks 87 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: and ed dreshers and linebackers, But for me, I kind 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: of already feel like I have a good idea of 89 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: who I would want where at those positions. With the 90 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: offensive line, there's just a lot that I still feel 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: like I want to see with that group, and a 92 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: lot of people who I think will be coming and 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: being a part of this organization and this roster prior 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: to the start of training camp, which is something that 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: we've talked about before, And so I really don't think 96 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: we have a collective good look at what this offensive 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: line could one look like and be once we do 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: get into kind of the competition, the nitty gritty of it, 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: I think we haven't seen that yet. So I say 100 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: all of that to say that the offensive line. I 101 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: know people are like, why in the world would you 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: pick the offensive line as like one of your biggest 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: position battles. But I really truly believe that, I really 104 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: truly believe the outside of like Chris Lindstrom and Jake Matthews, 105 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: that the competition that we're going to see within the 106 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: scope of this offensive line is going to be pretty intense. 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think that honestly, you know, we I could 108 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: be saying all of this and we could get to 109 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: the very first week of the season and the same 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: five offensive line that we saw last year could be 111 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: the same offensive line that we see in week one 112 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: of this season. That could absolutely happen. But I want 113 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 1: to see the process of getting to that point if 114 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: that's what it If that's what happens, So that's my spield. 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: People can agree or disagree as they see fit, but 116 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: that's where I'll be kind of I think hanging my hat. 117 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: This training camp is just watching the offensive line. Yeah, 118 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: and I'm with you, and I think that that to 119 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of dovetail off of what you were talking about 120 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: or to continue some of your points, is that it 121 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: brings up two important matters. Number One, we were robbed 122 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: of offensive line competition last year because of injuries to 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Matt Gano, who never was a part of the Falcons 124 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: product last year and the fact that Josh Andrews got 125 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: hurt early, which moved Jalen Matthews back and forth. So 126 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: we never saw competition at left guard, which I think 127 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: they sorely needed. We never saw competition at right tackle 128 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: because eventually Caylen McGarry just needed to take the job, 129 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: and they were so desperate for depth at the position. 130 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: They were claiming Colby Gossip off waivers, and they were 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: adding Jason Spriggs late, and they were doing a lot 132 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: of things just to get the nine guys you needed 133 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: on the roster. When he wanted the competition at all 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: of the positions that we're talking about and didn't get it, 135 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: and I don't think that that created a lack of 136 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: motivation and the guys who eventually took those starting jobs, 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: it just left a less than desirable situation. Arthur Smith 138 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: has alluded to it a couple of different times that 139 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: he has long term visions and long term development plans 140 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: for four young players like he did with Richie Grant. 141 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Mayfield got robbed of that long term development plan 142 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: and got thrust into it. So I think this is 143 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: nothing but a positive. I think the front office did 144 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: a good job adding veteran talents with starting experience. You 145 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: look at a guy like Jermaine Effetti and your think 146 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: that guy did not come here to be a backup. 147 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: No way. He's a former first round pick who wants 148 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: to kickstart, re energize his career. He wants to re 149 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: establish himself as a starter. He's gonna push at right tackle. 150 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: He might push at left guard. I think that we're 151 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: going to see competition at center because Drew Dalman is 152 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: a year above it. And as much as we talk 153 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: about offensive line and maybe people think, can we just 154 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: fast forward to the next chapter of this podcast please 155 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: and talk about quarterbacks, this is why you can't, right, yeah, 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: Because if the offensive line is not good, if we 157 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: don't have the type of competition upfront, the running game 158 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: will suffer, the passing game will suffer. Mariota or a 159 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,359 Speaker 1: ritter or whoever wins that position battle will be scrambling 160 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: for their lives and therefore less effective. So without us 161 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: paying attention to these position battles, without them pushing to 162 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: be better, then you've got nothing else, right And I 163 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: think that some people understand that, but I think they 164 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: really need to follow it. It seems weird, Drew Dahman 165 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: versus Matt Hennessey, if Eddie versus Caleb McGarry, Jalen Mayfield 166 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: versus a number of different people, Atlija Wilkinson, whoever. These 167 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: names that you'll get to know because we're gonna write 168 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: about them a ton. These position battles are important to 169 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: Tory's point, and then end of my rant is that 170 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: there's a there's a definite possibility that we could run 171 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: it back with the twenty twenty one group, right, but 172 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: at least I think fans and the coaching staff will 173 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: feel better that unlike last year where injuries messed everything up, 174 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna have to earn that spot. It's 175 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: not like, well, I guess we've gotta go with this guy. 176 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: It's this guy went out there and proved it, and 177 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be key. So as 178 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: we look through it and we look at, you know, 179 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: offensive line, we're talking about three starting spots that are uncertain. 180 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: As we move through the rest of these position group battles, 181 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's less about starting players more about how the 182 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: rotation is going to work out. So let's move to 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: a sexier position on the other side of the ball. 184 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure the guys who manned this position will love 185 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: me calling it sexy, but nonetheless, we're looking at the 186 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: edge dreshers here right. They basically hit a hard reset. 187 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Outside of ada Ogandaiji, a lot of older veterans are out, 188 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot of younger players are in, including two rookies 189 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Arnold Evocati, D'Angelo Malone Lorenzo Carter. How do you see 190 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: this one shuffling out? I think we have an idea, 191 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: more of an idea than we do with the offensive line, 192 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: but I still think it's gonna be interesting to see 193 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: how this rotation plays out. Who's gonna play a lot, 194 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: Who's going to be an accent piece. There's a lot 195 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: that we still don't know here, Yeah, there is, And 196 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: I think this is a position that is going to 197 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: change as the season goes on. As guys like Arnold 198 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: Ebuketti and De'angela Malone get more live reps under their belt. 199 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: I think you could and should see them evolve in 200 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: their first year and probably get more playing time as 201 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: the year goes on. Nothing against Lorenzo Carter and Audiogundaiji. 202 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: They're going to play a significant role in this defense 203 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: as well, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that 204 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: you're exactly right when you say you know, starters don't 205 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: necessarily matter in my opinion, And I say that on 206 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: the offensive side too. Like I know, there was one 207 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: time last season where I don't know somebody was starting. 208 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: It was like Kyle Pitts was not starting. He didn't 209 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: come out there for the very first play of a game, 210 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: but it's because the package didn't call for Kyle pitch 211 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: for that specific play, and then he ran out there 212 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: in the second play. So I just hope, I just 213 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: want people to get it through their heads that like 214 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: starting doesn't necessarily mean anything anymore. Maybe it did at 215 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: one point or another, but not anymore. Look at us 216 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: both going on soapbox rands within the first five minutes 217 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: of this podcast. But in terms of the edge, I 218 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: think it's what's really interesting and something that I'm gonna 219 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: very much be watching early on is the role of 220 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: audio Ogandaiji. I think Lorenzo Carter is you go out 221 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: and you get Lorenzo Carter for a reason. He comes 222 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: to Atlanta for a reason. I would feel fairly confident 223 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: that Lorenzo Carter is going to be the quote unquote 224 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: guy in the room. But Audio Ogundeiji is a very 225 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: interesting piece of this room and a guy who should 226 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: be fighting for a starting spot. He's in his second 227 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: year in the league. Granted he was a lower round 228 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: draft pick last year. But when I was talking to 229 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: Ted Manachino, who's the outside linebackers coach for the Falcons, 230 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: at one point last year, we're talking about a couple 231 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: months into the season last year, he made the comment 232 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: that has stuck with me this entire time, and he 233 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: said that they view audi Ogandaiji as the bell cow 234 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: of the room. And he made the comm he was like, 235 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: there is going to be a lot of fluctuation people 236 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: coming in and out of the building, But you know 237 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: that audi Ogandiji, he's on his rookie deal. He's gonna 238 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: be here for a while. So if they were viewing 239 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: him when they drafted him as the quote unquote bell 240 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: cow of the room in the future, how quickly can 241 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: you get him to that future? Is this the year 242 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: that we see that happen for Audio Ogundiji. That's what 243 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: I'm just as curious about. Even when talking about Lorenzo 244 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Carter and when you're talking about Dangelo Malone and Arnold Ebaketty. 245 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: I think Audio Ogandiji may be caught up in the 246 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: shuffle of talking about these guys. And he's somebody who 247 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: I think is going to be very very important to 248 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: this position group as he grows. Yeah, it's it's he's 249 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: the wild card because I think if you look at 250 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: the our Lads depth chart or not like depth charts 251 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: matter now or the a depth chart which Arthur Smith 252 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: brings up a lot, and because he likes to dig 253 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: on d lead, which is funny everyone. When you look 254 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: at depth charts now, you see Arnold Ebicatie already in 255 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: the starting lineup, and Audie has got to look at 256 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: that and be like, I'm in my year two. I'm 257 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: not gonna just accept that, right. I think the expectations. 258 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: I just wrote a bear male response to somebody saying 259 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: I think that Arnold Ebicati could be the defensive rookie 260 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: of the year and I just want to like slam 261 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: on the brakes. I think that it's very possible that 262 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: he's a significant player, that he plays significant snaps. He 263 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: has all the talent. We don't know, right, Yeah, don't 264 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: know what he's going to be, and I think you 265 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: really fall into trouble when you have to rely even 266 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: on second round picks, when you have to just assume, 267 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: PLoP him in, plug and play. Right, this this isn't 268 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: especially if you look at edge rushers that you would 269 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: think that about. There were three guys taken it in 270 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: the top six. Yeah, those expectations on Cavon of it 271 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Oh or Trayvon Walker. I'm blanking on the third guy. 272 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, you know that for the guy who's drafted 273 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: number thirty eight, a guy with relative inexperience in the game, 274 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: I think that we need to see something at least 275 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: with pads on before we start throwing expectations on this 276 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: guy or even assuming that he's going to be a 277 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: major player. I think it's gonna be interesting to watch 278 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: this group overall. Right, you think DeAngelo Malone could be 279 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: maybe like a sub package specialist or what have you. 280 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: We don't have an idea of how this group is 281 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: going to come together. We just know that they're all 282 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: very young, even Lorenzo Carter's what twenty six something like that. 283 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: So you have a group, and you wonder can Ted 284 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:48,479 Speaker 1: Monachino bring this group together and build a young foundation 285 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: in this room that can work together for three or four, 286 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: three or four years and if they have to do 287 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: better than eighteen sacks, they just do. And Danps said 288 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: it extraordinary. Well, sometimes you just need a guy who 289 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: can win a one on one matchup without a scheme, 290 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: without scheme help and just go get it. Are these 291 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: guys the personnel to do it? That? I think is 292 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: going to be fascinating. But so let's say that we 293 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: pencil in Lorenzo as a three down player on one side. 294 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: How could it shake out? Do you think Ada could 295 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: take control of it? Do you think it could be 296 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: like a buy committee thing with you know, guys kind 297 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: of rotating in and out. I don't I'm not sure 298 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: how how that could work out. Are you looking at 299 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: there's one position, there's Carter and then there's one position 300 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: battle like at maybe the strong or the weak side, 301 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: or are you looking at both being opened? I kind 302 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: of look at I think Lorenzo is a lock in 303 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: my opinion. I think because of his experience, especially early 304 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: in the season. I don't see how you don't have 305 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: him on the field for a majority of the time. However, 306 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: I will say this too, I think it also depend pens. Like, 307 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: if we're saying Lorenzo's a lock, who's on the other side, 308 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: I think it greatly depends on what Dean Pas is 309 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: calling one and what the personnel on the other side 310 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 1: is as well. I think that there there's something that 311 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: could be said about the way that auDA could specialize 312 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: in one thing and Arnold Ebuchhetty could specialize in another. 313 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: But the thing about that is is like Dean Pas 314 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: loves to do different things, and he doesn't want an 315 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: offense to be able to pick up on god on 316 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: what they're doing and what they're planning. And so I 317 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: honestly even saying that, I think that's not even remotely 318 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: what they would try and do. And so because you 319 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: don't want to just run let's say Arnold Ebuchetti out 320 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: there on a run play and be like, oh, well 321 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: there you go when they know we're running the ballah 322 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But I will say that I do 323 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: think there is an opportunity for that other side to 324 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: be a bit more fluid according to what the play 325 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: call is and what they need in the specific moments. Yeah, 326 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: I look at this group and I think one they 327 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: have to get Deanp's needs like the basics. Last year, 328 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: they couldn't contain mobile quarterbacks. They weren't setting the edge. Well, 329 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: there were a lot of basic problems. They got the 330 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Falcons in trouble. They need the basics done. That's why 331 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: I know it drove everybody crazy. That's why Stephen Means 332 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: played so much. Let's be on a Stephen Means is 333 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: a fantastic human and at that point in his career 334 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: was a bit unspectacular, but was always in the right 335 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: place at the right time right at some points, if 336 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: you're talking about just the base level requirements, you have 337 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: to do that before you can do anything else. So 338 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: finding guys who can do that earning trust in credibility. 339 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: Over the course of all these joint practices, right with 340 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Jags and these preseason games, we're 341 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: gonna see these guys are gonna have an opportunity to 342 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: prove they can do the basics and then can they 343 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: do the spectacular on top of it? So how all 344 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: that pans out? I really think if I'm picking a 345 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: quote unquote like breakout a possible breakout player on this defense, 346 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: I look at Lorenzo Carter and I just like I 347 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: see his frame and I see his athleticism. You covered 348 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: him at yeah, right, I just see so much potential there, 349 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: and I just think this could be an eight or 350 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: nine sack guy in this Yeah, you know, if he 351 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: can really get it done. Um. We spent a lot 352 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: of time on the addressers, moving on to another thing 353 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: that could be more of a rotational thing or maybe 354 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna see a straight up three down players at 355 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: the inside linebacker spot talked a lot about the outside linebackers, 356 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: inside linebackers. We have a lot of options, right, Troy 357 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: is super athletic and fast as a jack rabbit. Really, 358 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: and you've got I don't know where that came from, cheetah. 359 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: I could have gone with cheetah. Maybe you could have 360 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: gone with so many, so many different like real animals, right, yeah, no, 361 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: I mean, at least I didn't say jack a lope. 362 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: But but nonetheless U got Troy Anderson there with Shawn Evans' 363 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: former first round pick has experienced Nick Kwikowski when a 364 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: little bit from the Raiders has starting experience. Good backup, 365 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: Michael Walker. You talked to him this offseason. He is 366 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: coming to play, right, Yeah, I mean, and that doesn't 367 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: even count Deon Jones. It sounds like Michael Walker is 368 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: looking at this like, I don't care who they brought in. 369 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one of those spots. Yeah. No, that's 370 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: exactly how he's viewing it. And I talked to him 371 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: kind of like what you're saying. I talked to him 372 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: after practice one of the mini camp practices. Don't know 373 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: which one it was, could have been any they all 374 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: run together, but I asked him, like, do you feel 375 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: like this year could be different for you? Because Michael 376 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and I had talked last year about how the year 377 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: didn't go the way that he wanted to and I 378 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: think he didn't have the playing time that he wanted 379 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: to have. And so now transforming that to this year 380 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: and knowing that there is an opportunity in front of 381 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: you that hasn't been there the last two years, Michael 382 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: Walker is ready to run through a brick wall in 383 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: order to get one of those starting spots. I know 384 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: we just talked about the starting rotation. Starting is not 385 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: all that and whatever. Michael Walker wants one of those 386 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: spots and he is working like he needs it, and 387 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I think he does at this point in his career 388 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: he is just eating at the opportunity to get more 389 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: opportunities in this defense. And I think that you saw 390 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: he has the playmaker ability. I mean you saw moments 391 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: last year where he was making plays that you're like, 392 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: I want more of that. And so for Michael Walker, 393 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: he we talk about audio Ogundeiji kind of being the 394 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: question mark of the edge rushers. Michael Walker and his 395 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: continuing development is also a question mark. Can he be 396 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: the guy? He used himself as the guy. Can he 397 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: be the guy in that room? That's where I think 398 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: his trajectory is heading. Now. We need to see what 399 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: it actually looks like in that role. I don't want 400 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: to rehash what we talked about last time, because we 401 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: talked about Dion Jones quite a bit. Yeah, and I 402 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: think people appreciated the conversation. We saw that in the 403 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: YouTube comments. Thank you guys for all the positivity there. 404 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we had a single dislike last week. 405 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: It's always win, but we talked a lot about Dion 406 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Jones and how he fits in there and if he 407 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: fits in there, if he's going to be moved, right, 408 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: we don't need to rehash all that, but how let's 409 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: say he's here and healthy, he's still Dion Jones right. 410 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Then it becomes less of a position battle if he's there, 411 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: because you assume he's going to take one of those spots, 412 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: and then it puts a lot of pressure on the 413 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: other one. Then you have almost too many qualified candidates 414 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: at the same time. If you can go out and 415 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: make a move and move on from Dion and get 416 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: all these things we talked about last week, something that 417 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: if you can get something, take it at this point, right, 418 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: just take it. You've built up this depth chart and enough. 419 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: But he's the He's the big question mark over the 420 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks about what they're gonna do with 421 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: him and how he fits. I do think that they're 422 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: well situated for it if he's there. Michael Walker's going 423 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: to have a tough road to getting in the starting 424 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: lineup because you look at Rashaun Evans and he is 425 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: like a mic linebacker right with a capital m ike, 426 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: just like Foyer A Luikini was last year. God, I 427 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: missed that guy, right. I know. He was such a 428 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: good dude. He's on the upward like a trajectory and 429 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: it go get the bag dude, and he did that. 430 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: But I think not having his personality. I think having 431 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Rashaun Evans there, who is a big personality, who knows 432 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: his stuff, who can be a tone setter, You've got 433 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: to have that because I think losing Foyer created a 434 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: void that you have to fill somehow, don't you think. Yeah, 435 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: from as well as anybody, right, Yeah, from the thing 436 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: about Foyer was it wasn't just like we saw the 437 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: plays and everything. It was how he controlled the defense 438 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: from a vocal standpoint. And because Dan Peace talked a 439 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: lot about Foyer being the quote unquote quarterback of the defense, 440 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: you needed someone. That void in and of itself is 441 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: very very difficult to fix or to find a replacement for, 442 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: because that you have to trust someone to get everybody 443 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: lined up where they need to go, to make the calls, 444 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: to have to be vocal with the secondary and with 445 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the guys up front. That part of the game is 446 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: very important and it's very hard to replicate within somebody. 447 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: So when Foyer goes to the Jagson, like you said, 448 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: like makes his money as he should, finding that replacement 449 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: was so important, and Rashaun Evans is I think the 450 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: best you could have hoped for. Talking to Hershon and 451 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: and knowing his history and knowing the type of player 452 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: and the type of guy he is, he has that 453 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: ability to be vocal within the defense and to do 454 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: the things right. That was another thing that I think 455 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: DEANPS talked about Foyer a lot, is like you told 456 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: him one thing and he did it, and there was 457 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: if he made one mistake, he never made that mistake again. 458 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: Rashaan Evans, I think, is kind of like that in 459 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and so I think that part 460 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: of it, that part of the game, almost the mental side, 461 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: just as much as the physical side, was so important 462 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: when you talk about having to replace Foyer with Rashaan Evans, Yeah, 463 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: and his history with Danp's definitely helps. He has so 464 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: much respect for the coordinator. He understands the scheme and 465 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: how and the schematics and how Dean likes to run it. 466 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: All those things are key. And we've talked a lot 467 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: about the front seven, I think, because if the front 468 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: seven can figure it out, you look at the secondary, 469 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and this is a position battle talk necessarily, but you 470 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: look at and you think you got aj Turrell and 471 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: Casey Hayward's still in his prime and Isaiah Oliver looked 472 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: really good, and you think, Okay, if the front seven 473 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: can figure it out, the back end seems more secure, 474 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: right that, maybe this defense can exceed expectations. And I 475 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: think it's also a bonus that with all this talk 476 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: that in no way are the Falcons having to shove 477 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: Troy Anderson into a thousand snap season, right that that's 478 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: not the type of pressure for a guy from a 479 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: smaller school in Montana State who's played a lot of 480 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: different positions. Maybe he goes out there and earns it 481 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: and that's a bonus. But at no point have we 482 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: said they're counting on this guy to do X, which 483 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: is sort of what you're looking at Drake London. You're 484 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: probably counting on him to play and have four figures 485 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: in his receiving total. Arnold Ebacatie, we're talking about some 486 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: people thinking he's a three down guy. Maybe he doesn't 487 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: have to be, but we're talking about the expectations dropping 488 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: for a guy who's a second round pick. I think 489 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: that's a bonus for Troy Anderson. I think the depth 490 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: that linebacker and the fact that some guys are gonna 491 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: have to go earn some rolls. I think it's a 492 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: good thing. Can they figure out the front seven that's 493 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna be key. Can they figure out the quarterback spot? 494 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Now we're here, which means you had to listen to 495 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: most of the podcast to get here. Talk about teases 496 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: and keeping people glued. Nonetheless, Desmond Rider, Marcus Mariota, this 497 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: is as much as I have said, and I think 498 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: you agree that it's Marcus Mariota seems like the heavy 499 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: and odds on favorite to start the season as QB one. 500 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't change the fact that this remains an open competition. 501 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: I think you wrote it back in March that Marcus 502 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: Mariota was guaranteed literally nothing. Arthur Smith didn't say he's 503 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: our starter. They go out, they draft Desmond Ritter, and 504 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Desmon Ritter gets complimented on his mental acumen, which is 505 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: the important part of the offseason. It's gonna be a battle, 506 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: I think, and Desmond Ridter is going to get a 507 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities this preseason to show what he has 508 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: the guy. I think there was a report that he 509 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: was telling teams and pre draft interviews how he would 510 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: unseat a veteran. Well, here we go. This is the opportunity. 511 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: They have two mobile quarterbacks. They have a hungry young kid, 512 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: they have a guy trying to re establish himself. I 513 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: think the competition is going to get the best out 514 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: of both guys. How are you looking at these quarterbacks 515 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: heading into the training camp period. Yeah, I just think 516 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: for Desmond at this point in his career, for Marcus 517 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: at this point in his career, the fact that the 518 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: other guy in the room is Desmond and Marcus I 519 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: think is very good for Desmond and Marcus for all 520 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons that you just said. Desmond Ritter we 521 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: have talked to on a number of occasions. He wants 522 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: to be a franchise quarterback. He wants that He very 523 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: much believes that he can be that. We saw the 524 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: emotion of that that draft call with Terry Fontno, when 525 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter was like, man, they for lack of a 526 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: better or messed up that. You know, I really want 527 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: to get the expletive note on the side of the 528 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: iTunes uh for our podcast, But I'll say that for 529 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: another time. Um maybe I'll go on another rant someday, 530 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: but not today. With Desmond Ritter saying that, I think 531 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: that that was very very the emotion of which you 532 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: felt in that moment, and then also in the moment 533 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: since that we've talked to him. This is something he wants, 534 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: This is something that he very much feels like he 535 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: is made for. So because of that, you have someone 536 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: who feels this way going up against someone who wants 537 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: to resurrect his career and in Marcus Mariota. At is 538 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: so good for both of them to push both of them. 539 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: And I think that that part of it is so 540 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: interesting when you're talking about this competition, because for so 541 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: long we haven't had that. In Atlanta. Matt Ryan has 542 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: been Matt Ryan, and he was a lot since he 543 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: got here. That is not the case right now. Even 544 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: though I feel pretty confident that Marcus Mariotte is going 545 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: to be run out their week one, how much are 546 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: we going to see Desmond Ritter? How much is he 547 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: pushing Marcus? How quickly can Desmond get to that level? 548 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: All of these questions are questions that we are going 549 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: to be asking for an entire year, and that's something 550 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: that I'm very excited about. And I do think that 551 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: this is a really good situation for both Marcus and 552 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Desmond at this point in their respective careers. And I 553 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: bring this up and This is a tough question to ask, 554 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: but Chase Paper from Rochester, New York brought it up 555 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: in the mailbag. I think it's a great point in 556 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: that he said, I feel like we know what we have, 557 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: and by we, I'm talking as Chase. Now, Hey, Jase, 558 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: heure out there that he says, the Falcons know that 559 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: everybody knows what you're gonna get in Marcus Mariota because 560 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a small sample size of starts sixty 561 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: four starts in seventy plus games. You have seen him 562 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: for a long time, that maybe his ceiling is what 563 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: he has shown. Now I defended, I argued back on 564 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: that premise, but we've seen a lot of him in 565 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: his NFL career that if we sort of know the 566 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 1: rough that we have a good gauge of what he 567 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: is and can be, shouldn't the Falcons think bigger picture 568 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: and try to give to you have a true understanding 569 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: or a better understanding of what Desmond Ritter is and 570 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: what maybe his ceiling is and what his development arc 571 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: is heading into. I know we're talking about position battles 572 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: leading into training camp and I'm jumping right down a 573 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: rabbital here, but don't you need to know what you 574 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: have before you go into twenty three. When you have 575 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: like a bill, It's not just Bryce and CJ. There's 576 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot of good quaterbacks out there. So you have 577 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: this thing, right, Arthur Smith, I think is gonna look 578 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: short term. Who's gonna give me the best chance to 579 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: beat the Saints in week one? Yep? Full stop? Right, yep? 580 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: But when do you let the other part of it 581 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: come into play? Right? That's the thing that I wonder 582 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: And I bring up a very small tangential digression here. 583 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: It's too many words, but you know I'm going off 584 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: topic for one more second. In twenty fourteen, I covered 585 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders matt Shop. Someone that Falcons know well was 586 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: named the starter in like March, and then Derek Carr 587 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: came in and swooped the starting job away that he's 588 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: held for a billion years now at the last possible second, 589 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: and they realized, we know what we have in shop. 590 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: It's this I'm pointing to a relatively low ceiling. And 591 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: then Derek Carr has potential. We're gonna go with Derek Carr. 592 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna stink, but we're gonna do it right. He's 593 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: second round pick they went with Carr over a more 594 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: established commodity that may have gotten them more wins. They 595 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: thought a little big picture. When do you think big picture? 596 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Does any of that make any sense? Or have I 597 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: talked too long that my point is now lost? No, 598 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: all of that makes sense. And I think it's the 599 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: question on a lot of people's minds. I think it's 600 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: a question that this coaching staff in this front office 601 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: are weighing too. When do you start thinking about that? 602 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: If you know? And I think it's going to be 603 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: very interesting, because I do think that at some point 604 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: we will see Desmond Ritter. I'm not saying that we're 605 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: never going to see Desmond Ritter. I do think we 606 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: will see him. I think my thing is like, do 607 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: we believe that Desmond Ritter is the future of this organization? 608 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: And to that I cannot answer one way or the other. 609 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: This is not something This is not somebody who was 610 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: a top ten draft pick. This is someone who is 611 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: a seventy fourth overall pick. Our crazier things have happened, 612 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: and people a lot lower on the draft boards have 613 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: gone on to be great quarterbacks. That's not what I'm 614 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: saying at all. I'm not saying that Desmond Ritter can't 615 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: or won't be a great quarterback in this league. But 616 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: to your point, when do you find out if he 617 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: has that capability? Do you believe that he does? Now? 618 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: If you do, then do you run him out there 619 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: in Week four? Like, I think that's all. These are 620 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: all the questions that we will be able to get 621 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: to later and down the road. It's a question that 622 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: this coaching staff is currently you know, maybe they're on 623 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: a white sandy beach right now, but they are currently 624 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: thinking about these questions and how much do you weigh 625 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: short term versus the long term goal? And that's very 626 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: very interesting. I think the age old saying or whatever 627 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: it is, is that coaches think in the short term. 628 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: General managers think in the long term. What does that mean? 629 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: How does that How does Terry font know and what 630 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: he thinks this organization can be coincide with what Arthur 631 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: Smith needs them to be in twenty twenty two. Yeah, 632 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun topic, I think, probably for 633 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: a long time. But getting back to the to the 634 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, I exploded the question and expanded it. Getting 635 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: back to that, I do think that you probably that 636 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith will think, how can I beat the Saints? Right? 637 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: And I think that that's the important question in deciding 638 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: who gets that opportunity. I also pushed back a little 639 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: bit and say, look, Marcus Mariota was. He was a 640 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: dynamic college player. I know there's lots of dynamic college 641 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: players who don't go on to be excellent pros. But 642 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: he's drafted number two overall. The Titans obviously saw something. 643 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: This is a guy that's won a playoff game. It's 644 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: a guy that's gone that's produced winning records. Things got 645 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: a little askew on him and he got a little 646 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: banged up. And I think that we're going to see 647 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: the best of Marcus Mariota. What the best of Marcus 648 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: Mariota is where that ceiling is. I think we're gonna 649 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: find out. Yeah, and he's either going to thrive and 650 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: exceed it or he's going to be he was who 651 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: we thought he was right. But these are the questions 652 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: that are going to be interesting as we moved through 653 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: camp and as we see him perform. These joint practices 654 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: are going to be important. I bet we see both 655 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: guys in the preseason games and we see them continue 656 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: on and how that competition heads into camp or goes 657 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: through camp, and then how it extends throughout the course 658 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: of the regular season when we see Ridder. If we 659 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: see Ridder, I think all that stuff is going to 660 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: be fascinating. So we're coming up against it here, and 661 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: like I said at the start, Tory and I are 662 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: going on a little summer vacation Ki t and all 663 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: that stuff, and we're going to come back the week 664 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: before training camp and we're going to hit it hard 665 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: every single week. We have plans for Falcon's Final Whistle 666 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: that are like the coolest. Let's be honest. We're talking 667 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: about live podcasts at training camp. We're talking about player guests, 668 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about miniseries. One's already been recorded, and it's 669 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: super freaking awesome starting Tory mclaney on like Heats. So 670 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing a lot of different and really 671 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: cool stuff with the podcast after we after these messages, 672 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: after we take a little bit of a break, and 673 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: we'll be coming back rejuvenated, excited about what's to come 674 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 1: with an extra member of the team. So are gonna 675 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: be awesome. Guys, Thank you so much. Why don't you 676 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 1: subscribe and rate and review and all that fun stuff 677 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: and get us pumped and get us ready for Falcon's 678 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 1: final whist. Will coming back full time in late July. 679 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening. Tori any final thoughts, 680 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: because I've just been ranting forever. I mean, over the 681 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: next two weeks to all of our listeners, go be 682 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: kind to someone, Go make someone smile. One day you have, 683 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: however many weeks until we come back. I want to 684 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: hear about the person that you did something nice for. 685 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: Spread some kindness out there behind to your fellow neighbor, 686 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: and maybe do what we're doing, get away from football 687 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Rejuvenated, pumped and ready to go. 688 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much, and we'll talk to you 689 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: in a few weeks. Bettman bet