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Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And in

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Speaker 2: case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know he'll

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Speaker 2: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry.

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Speaker 1: Decision make because it's what he likes to do. It's

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald

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Speaker 2: money making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: How you doing this is Rushan McDonald and thank you

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Speaker 3: for listening to my shular day. Welcome to the money

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Speaker 3: Making Conversation masterclass. It's uh, excuse me for coughing. Now

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Speaker 3: I've been on vacation. I've lost all the rules of

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Speaker 3: radio and being on vacation. It's amazing when you go

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Speaker 3: on vacation because of the fact that my body was different,

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Speaker 3: my mind was different, my world was different.

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Speaker 1: As soon as it.

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Speaker 3: Got on that plane halfway back over here, I could

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Speaker 3: tell my body was differ and I can tell the

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Speaker 3: focus I started realizing I was about to get back

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Speaker 3: into the.

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Speaker 1: Jungle, the jungle we call every day life.

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Speaker 3: I'm about to start reading CNN, you know, reading about

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Speaker 3: stuff I don't want to read about evening news, all

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Speaker 3: that good stuff. But again, so that tells you that

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Speaker 3: something I used to didn't. I didn't take vacations, man,

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Speaker 3: I didn't take vacations at all. I was so paranoid,

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Speaker 3: worried about getting off that little wheel that somebody's gonna

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Speaker 3: take my slide or I would lose my advantage. And

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Speaker 3: not realizing the advantage I was losing was not spending

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Speaker 3: enough time with my family, not taking care of my body,

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Speaker 3: allowing stress, mental strain, something we'll be talking about a

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Speaker 3: lot on the show today. If you want to talk

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Speaker 3: to us today, please call us and let us know.

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Speaker 3: Shares your stories today. What's happening in your life? Why

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Speaker 3: is it important that I should hear your story?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 3: Because my story is I'm being uttered next week. I'm

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Speaker 3: happy to say that. And the fact that somebody has

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Speaker 3: thought of me. The Atlanta Business League has thought of myself,

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Speaker 3: and somebody had to nominate me. I didn't nominate myself.

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Speaker 3: Somebody thought enough to nominate me, And because of that,

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Speaker 3: I'm being recognized for being a community leader, for being

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Speaker 3: an entrepreneur and that amazing in itself that somebody thought

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Speaker 3: of that and I talk have a second on a

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Speaker 3: show called the Bragging Segment. Well, this is Rushan McDonald's

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Speaker 3: Bragging Segment. The Atlanta Business League host is seventeen annual.

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Speaker 3: This is in Atlanta, Georgia. Men of influenced reception and

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Speaker 3: induction ceremonies celebrating African American men and their accomplished Congratulations

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Speaker 3: to all of the members who will be sharing that

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Speaker 3: room with me next week. And one of the legends

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Speaker 3: of the Hall of Fame that will be inducted to

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Speaker 3: the incredible war done. If you don't know what this

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Speaker 3: young man has done with his life personally, what he

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Speaker 3: has done with the community, not only as an athlete

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Speaker 3: and a formal NFL player, but a philanthropist, house building,

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Speaker 3: it's incredible. Google that man's name Warwick done.

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Speaker 1: W A R R. I C K. Done.

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Speaker 3: But also there are other influencers out there. I'll just

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Speaker 3: share a few names, not gonna burden you. People who

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Speaker 3: I'll call my classmates. You know, Afred McCrae. He's the

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Speaker 3: president of the Bank of America Atlanta. My man doctor

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Speaker 3: Kevin James, president of Morris Brown, doctor David A. Thomas,

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Speaker 3: the president of Morehouse College, and many many more will

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Speaker 3: be sharing that stage with me on the Night of

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Speaker 3: Black Excellence. From a male perspective, the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: Atlanta Business League Men of Influence, I will be MOI

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Speaker 3: I'll be deducted to have my pictures. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna put it on social media. I'm gonna do it up.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it up on the way Sean McDonald

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Speaker 3: can do it up. But more importantly, my family be there,

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Speaker 3: and people that carry about will be there, and more

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Speaker 3: because we are a community station that shouts out to success,

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Speaker 3: only in jazz. When this show streams worldwide, because I

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Speaker 3: know because of the fact that I get calls from

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Speaker 3: Florida to Pennsylvania, to California to the Midwest. But more

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Speaker 3: guests who have made this show so successful and like again,

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Speaker 3: if you want to call and talk today. You know,

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Speaker 3: want to congratulate me for being honored. I take that

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Speaker 3: I would do that. Now, let's get to business. My

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Speaker 3: guest he's on the call and I had him on

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Speaker 3: the show before and it really dealt into chronic pain,

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Speaker 3: mental stress, overcoming the odds. His name is Jackson Dunbar.

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Speaker 3: He triumphed by earning a comfortable living after having lost

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Speaker 3: for himself, deliberately focused on his physical health and stre

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Speaker 3: continue to earn an income while still in chronic pain,

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Speaker 3: and without his knowledge, was teaching himself and possibly the world,

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Speaker 3: a masterclass in survival. In his book, he gives a

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Speaker 3: first hand account on how he made money, lost Danty palce,

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Speaker 3: and thrived in chronic pain in the financial and.

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Speaker 1: Health care worlds.

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Speaker 3: Please work with the money making conversation masterclass again the

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Speaker 3: one and only Jackson Dunbar.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, sir, great? Thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: having me. And I want to say congratulations on the world.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate appreciate it, you know, because you know I

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Speaker 3: had to be nominated by it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do the nomination myself. When it was an

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Speaker 3: email was sent to me, I was surprised, and uh,

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Speaker 3: taking am back about it in a good way, you know,

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Speaker 3: because when I invite you and I meet people like you,

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Speaker 3: I'm being educated, Jackson. I'm being confronted with information I

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Speaker 3: I was on vacation. I hurt my knee, Jackson, and

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Speaker 3: right now that's hurt right now, my left kne and

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Speaker 3: so I continue to walk up the heels, I continue

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Speaker 3: to do everything with my family, and that ice packed it.

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Speaker 3: So I'm dealing with a degree of pain as we speak.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted to get into detail and talk about

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, yes, I am. I am the chronic pain

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Speaker 4: patient due to a car accident. I'm chronic paying patient

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Speaker 4: to someone that's in constant pain over six months. I've

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Speaker 4: been in constant paine since twenty fifteen, that was when

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Speaker 3: Now, right now, there's a. You know, I've had pain.

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Speaker 3: I was in the hospital for thirty days. I lung collapsed,

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Speaker 3: I can always remember that statement. And he said that

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Speaker 3: I remember, Jackson, it was just it was a moment

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Speaker 4: How I think the hard part, and this took a

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Speaker 4: I lost. I think the summer before the accident, I

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Speaker 4: the first three years of this I focused on that,

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Speaker 4: And then what happened. I started. I met a minister

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Speaker 4: problem I was solving business. I myself. I have always

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Speaker 4: my book Race Matters and Pay Medicine, How I made money,

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Speaker 4: Lost ninety pounds and driving fame.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting because a lot of sickle cell patients

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Speaker 3: you oftentime was a victim of stereotyping.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, even despite the numbers that most of the

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Speaker 4: people who are dying from this do not look like us.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it was something you put out there that I

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Speaker 3: wanted to bring back because in twenty twenty, during COVID,

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Speaker 3: therapy became a rise in the Black community, you know,

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Speaker 3: A lot of famous people started confessing their issues, a

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Speaker 3: lot of relationships were lost during the COVID period due

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Speaker 3: to mental strain. Now you said the word therapy. Now

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Speaker 3: with that a word, did you could share publicly with

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Speaker 4: You know what my favorite chapter in this book is

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Speaker 4: real Black men don't do therapy. And what's funny about

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Speaker 4: that is that I only well met Atlanta. We're a

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Speaker 3: Hi, there, welcome back to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: got to.

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Speaker 1: Go to work right right, right, right right.

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Speaker 4: My wife understands the ID, but still it's like, why

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Speaker 4: is this guy on the couch and I gotta go out.

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Speaker 4: I went from that in a month too. Baby, You've

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Speaker 4: had this skill set our whole life and you never

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Speaker 4: once thought about using it.

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Speaker 8: And hey, Jackson, Jackson, you're fine, she said, Baby like that, baby, baby, yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And thirty days I couldn't believe it. Transformation.

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Speaker 1: She went from cutting to evili You rolled around in

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Speaker 1: the wheelchair. The baby you got the skill set. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know you had. Come over here, come over here,

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Speaker 1: let let's talk. But that, but that skill set.

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Speaker 3: You know, God is good in a lot of ways

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Speaker 3: because of the fact that you took advantage of You

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Speaker 3: could have sat in the corner and complained, took your drugs,

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Speaker 3: not do therapy, and embarrass your daughter every year on

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Speaker 3: her birthday because you mad at the life because you

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Speaker 3: felt sorry for yourself. You know, because of the fact

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Speaker 3: that you know, right now my knee hurt, but it's

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Speaker 3: not in chronic pain. Because right now, when I get up,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna feel the pain because my knee is at

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Speaker 3: an angle and I start to walk. I'm a feeling.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I tend to want to get a

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Speaker 3: clearer understanding. If you could help me and my listeners,

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Speaker 3: what is a day in the life of a person

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Speaker 3: who's in criminal pain from when they get up or

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Speaker 3: what they try to sleep.

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Speaker 1: What is that and how does that feel? And how

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Speaker 1: do you how do you do? What's that day to day?

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Speaker 1: Out our experience?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well it starts out with you wake up, Okay,

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Speaker 4: how do I get out of bed and at least

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Speaker 4: the amount of pain? Then you go to okay, how

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Speaker 4: do I do number one or number two and at

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Speaker 4: least the amount of pain? Then then it's okay. You

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Speaker 4: have to remember your meade. And I've been taking the

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Speaker 4: same mass for years. She had forever reason that time

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Speaker 4: of the day, I always forget. It's always harry to

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Speaker 4: remember which meant the team, because I got some for

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Speaker 4: the morning, some for the afternoon, and then some at night.

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Speaker 4: It takes about an hour and kind of groggy from

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Speaker 4: my morning managed to kick in. Typically I'm on I'm

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Speaker 4: on my recliner and I'm sort of in between let's see,

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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, dam, I'm lucid, and

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Speaker 4: I'm that way for the next few hours. That's when

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Speaker 4: that's when I'm treating. I'm looking at crypto, I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at crypto based box, I'm looking at it here Karon

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Speaker 4: Hunter had me on her show back in April. I

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Speaker 4: told her, Ribbean, is she I hope she listened to me,

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Speaker 4: Because she did, she would have more than she would

487
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Speaker 4: have almost tripled her money. I think it was straightening

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Speaker 4: her by nine dollars to share again. I think it's

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Speaker 4: somewhere around twenty five twenty six now. So I so

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Speaker 4: I look at the trends and then I tell everyone, hey, hey, listen,

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Speaker 4: if you want to trade, find find other people who

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Speaker 4: like the trade as well, because what ends up happening

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Speaker 4: is that all former community and I might be a

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Speaker 4: car guy, you might be a commodities guy. You may

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Speaker 4: have them on up. That's a crypto guy. Anyway, we're

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Speaker 4: all looking at different aspects of the market, and you

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Speaker 4: may find something that I don't know about that makes money,

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Speaker 4: and vice versa. So we have a meeting, we discuss

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Speaker 4: all of that, and then I go about the business

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Speaker 4: of making some money. Afterwards, the meds were off, the

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Speaker 4: pain becomes sharp. I wait until about four or so

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Speaker 4: to take my afternoon meds. Then the pain is really bad.

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Speaker 4: I will hopefully make it to the pool swim stretch,

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Speaker 4: and then by around eight nine o'clock I'm just on

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Speaker 4: the floor waiting to take the afternoon edge that will

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Speaker 4: put me to sleep, maybe around midnight, and then I

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Speaker 4: do it all over again. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I want to thank you for sharing that that story.

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Speaker 3: That's an honest story, and I want you to stick around.

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Speaker 3: And I want to get back to the financial investing

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Speaker 3: because we only tip of the ice careaer. I want

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Speaker 3: the people understand your value. And also you're in the

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Speaker 3: healthcare field as well, correct Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, psychiatry child i'le and adult psychiatry.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk about that a little bit. But

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Speaker 3: more importantly, I just wanted to talk to my audience

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Speaker 3: for a minute about not only fiscal responsibility but mental responsibility. Well,

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Speaker 3: I look at my life, you know, it was really interesting, Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I will start thinking about what I didn't do in

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Speaker 3: my life. You know, that's a that's a that's a place, man,

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Speaker 3: where you can wallow and pity. And if I had

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Speaker 3: done this, this could happen. If I'd done this, this

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Speaker 3: could happen if I'd have went over here, if I wouldn't,

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Speaker 3: And we can never get into that point in our

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Speaker 3: lives and regret what we've done. We should only focus

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Speaker 3: on what we can do and plan a better life,

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Speaker 3: not only for yourself but for your family. And that

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Speaker 3: was one of the primary reasons Jackson, I wanted to

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Speaker 3: bring you back on the show because I felt our

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Speaker 3: interview was fantastic, but I really wanted people hear the

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Speaker 3: sacrifices that your family makes due to this accident related

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Speaker 3: injury that came into your life. You didn't plan on

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Speaker 3: living a life of chronic paining. Like you said, you

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Speaker 3: was bike riding, he was done the Peach Tree five

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Speaker 3: k race, and so you was active. But you did

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Speaker 3: not let a negative win in your life. And that's

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Speaker 3: important and that's part of your motivation now I would

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Speaker 3: assume correct.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And when you cat I call it the

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Speaker 4: dark and the light side of the force. Okay, standing

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Speaker 4: on that dark side, only focus on the things you

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Speaker 4: can't No, nothing but misery over there. When you make

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Speaker 4: your life one hundred about what can I do to

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Speaker 4: maximize my life in the three or four hours I

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Speaker 4: have a day, You'll be You'll be shocked at just

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Speaker 4: what your mind comes up with. And you have time

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Speaker 4: to be us around or any of this other stuff

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Speaker 4: you got to get you to get the business and

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Speaker 4: that's how and that's how I focus myself.

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