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Speaker 2: Hold on, it can't be contention because he went to

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Speaker 2: the finals four years in Cleveland, he won one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: five years. So we can't automatically assume because that's hypothetic.

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Speaker 1: We can't. Let's deal with what we know, O Joe.

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Speaker 1: We've got to deal with what we know.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying because now without those two

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Speaker 1: Who else you bring into the equation? One?

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Speaker 2: two MVPs and a final MVP. So now let's just say,

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Speaker 2: for the sake of argument, Lebron has two regular season MVPs,

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Speaker 2: two finals MVPs. Are we looking at Lebron the same way?

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Speaker 1: Yeah we are. No, we're not. He's different. No, now

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Speaker 1: with Ojo different? So are you?

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Speaker 3: His greatness? Solely on m vps and titles.

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Speaker 1: But but that's how you get into the goat debate.

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Speaker 1: It's rings.

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Speaker 2: Remember rings, No, o Joe, what if we said you

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Speaker 2: and I both saying you can be great and not

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Speaker 2: have ring. Charles Barkley was a great player. Carl Malone

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Speaker 3: We can't we can't put We can't put them on

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Speaker 1: But what does he have rings? Rings? O cha, I

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Speaker 3: But even still, just even even without the rings, dude, dude,

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Speaker 2: He would without the rings. He's not in the gold conversation.

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Speaker 2: Without the rings, he's not in the gold conversation. So

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Speaker 2: he's out of it. He's out of it. It's not

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't be considered. He wasn't.

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Speaker 2: He wouldn't even they would know. We don't have any

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Speaker 2: rings he wouldn't even be in the conversation. How so

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Speaker 2: how would you put in with no rings? Hold on, oo,

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Speaker 2: think about this?

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Speaker 3: No players that are great that have never won a ring?

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Speaker 1: It's a manny. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now when we see and this is what we talk about,

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Speaker 2: Look at how we look at Kevin Durant, look at

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Speaker 2: Look at how we looked at Kevin Garnett before and

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Speaker 2: At how we looked at Dirt Nubisky before and after

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Speaker 2: How do we know, because remember, it takes more than

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Speaker 1: He's been great. So they made it seem like I say.

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Speaker 1: But that's a good one. Man, that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, I whole heartly believe he could

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the finished product would have been the same

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: I wish I had the rosses of the other team

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Speaker 2: Now, off the top of my head out the I

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Speaker 3: come on, but there's no but about it. That's an

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Speaker 3: And it's not even a hypothetical. I put I put

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Speaker 1: If it was to happened. I wish, I wish we

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Speaker 3: We can't Prime d Roll, Jimmy Butler, Joe, Kim, Noah

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Speaker 1: You mean it to everything in that window Chip.

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Speaker 2: We never know, have we seen, We've seen Ojo, We've

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Speaker 1: Got him?

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Speaker 2: I mean, who who would have thought the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 1: Pistons would have Tooken taken down Shaq and Kobe?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, think about that now them boy? That would Ben

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Speaker 1: Huh Ben, she ripped. They were playing some defense. Boy

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Speaker 1: see and that's and to see Ojo. That's what I say.

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Speaker 1: You don't know, right, Let's let's deal.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I can say for certain looking at

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Speaker 2: seven and seven. Write it in the book, and I'm right,

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Speaker 2: and I'm right, and I'm writing it in non erasable inc.

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Speaker 2: You can't erase it. That's what I know. But championships

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Speaker 2: about Jordan with Jordan was six for six. Jordan played

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Speaker 3: Well, I have a question on the topic of basketball,

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Speaker 1: Okay, what do the Lakers need.

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Speaker 3: Outside of Anthony Davis staying healthy? They need one more

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Speaker 2: They got to hit some I mean, it's the first

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Speaker 2: So think about that. Go back all the way back.

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Speaker 1: Wait, score, I've scored by how much seventy four? Hey? Man,

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Speaker 1: we gotta go to a leak a game? Man? How

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Speaker 2: You ain't somebody always want to go to the You

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Speaker 2: want to go to the Miami Heat. I mean with

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Speaker 4: Hey, listen, it ain't it ain't. It ain't even bad

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Speaker 1: And look at the guys leave.

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Speaker 2: I saw Dwayne Wade leave, I saw Jimmy Butler leave,

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Speaker 2: I saw Lebron James leave. Now that's three of the

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Speaker 2: Now tell me what I don't know, Q.

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Speaker 1: What you do? Yeah, hold on, holdover let it fish up.

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Speaker 4: You we all got family, right, Yeah, sometimes sometimes you

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Speaker 1: Right. I like that. I like where you're going. I

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Speaker 4: He left one over his auntiehouse, and then he came

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Speaker 4: back over here and back then uncle house.

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Speaker 1: He came back. Okay, you Jimmy, you may Jimmy coming back.

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Speaker 4: I didn say Jimmy came back. I was talking about

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Speaker 4: d Wade when we said that, when we were telling yo, okay,

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Speaker 4: what about Lebron, Lebron going back to Miami.

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Speaker 2: No, I said family. But I'm saying the meal of

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Speaker 4: D Wade was a different type of family. Like d

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Speaker 4: Wade was drafted, home grown there, that's Dade County.

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Speaker 1: And he left.

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Speaker 4: You can't say the same for Lebron or Jimmy. So

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Speaker 4: it wasn't that same type of thing you He left

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Speaker 4: together and pieced up and it's all love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this?

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Speaker 2: Ain't us all love? But I see d Wade as

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Speaker 2: do be sitting courtses oude in Miami. He got a

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Speaker 2: and deserved show a smart businessman who deserve it and

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Speaker 2: deservedly so. But we can't we can't pretend like people

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Speaker 2: do not aren't fed up with pat Riley and those

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Speaker 1: That's that's not being true.

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Speaker 4: You hear it, But it worked. It can't it go

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Speaker 4: two ways though? You gotta understand it. Some of those

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Speaker 4: Best version of Lebron James that you know was right

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Speaker 4: there under those arch Tell me I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I still like Lebron when he went back to Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: No, you asked anybody in the league that Lebron jack

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Speaker 4: two years back to back. Please please? That was that

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Speaker 4: was hell on wheels. Boy, you hear me like, please,

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Speaker 4: you're talking about it. Let's say that both.

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Speaker 2: Sides okay, that he had his best years and then

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Speaker 2: what made Lebron leave.

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Speaker 1: On the twenty seven game winning street What happened to you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't heard you know what happened, Wade said.

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Speaker 1: I heard about cookies being taken away. I don't heard

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Speaker 4: But I also heard that some of the same things

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't all bad. You already listen.

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Speaker 2: You already know Rich is gonna be there every day

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Speaker 2: maverage my chief of staff or not?

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Speaker 1: Man, excuse me? What's the other one? That Randy? Randy's

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Lebron James anywhere without Randy? I

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Speaker 2: have not, whether it's out in Vegas, whether whatever the

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Speaker 1: You passion and let him be there. Oh, he gonna

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Speaker 1: be there. You won't it.

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Speaker 2: He gonna be there. You don't won't him. But you know,

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Speaker 2: hell on, you already know what you when you sign up.

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Speaker 2: If you get, if you get Yannis, what you see

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Speaker 2: what the Yanni's brother is?

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Speaker 1: Where you at a time out? Time out?

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Speaker 4: Though you just said you already know what you get

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Speaker 1: You signed up for.

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Speaker 2: That I did, but not for the be petty and

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Speaker 2: take some damn cookies away.

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Speaker 1: I ain't.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: It could have been the head bend, It could have

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Speaker 4: Cookies is what set it up. But like, this is

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Speaker 4: d Wade, Chris Bosh and okay, got you two championships

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Speaker 4: and it showed you how to go on the rest

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the heat of the old Let's talk

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Speaker 3: about the new heat. Let's talk about the new heat.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, it's still Pat running it. I'm about

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Speaker 1: to get somebody. Oh yeah, I'm to tell you what

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Speaker 4: That's what you, that's what you, That's that's what people

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Speaker 4: always understood and knew. Pat Riley, the Godfather is always

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Speaker 4: won't move away, how ken And then they win a

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Speaker 2: But you don't have the draft capital to do it.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? I think about it. He

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Speaker 2: it's gonna take for him to get Kevin Durant, he

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Speaker 2: gonna have to give up the hero and bam? Then

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Speaker 2: what who could he get? Johnnyson?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I told you, I told you who we're going to get.

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Speaker 3: and I'm telling you. I'm telling you too. I talked

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what are you? But see,

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Speaker 2: Handful of team that have the pieces that they want

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Speaker 2: said players. Q. You know how this thing worked a

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Speaker 2: lot of time, Like, man, I want to go over there,

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Speaker 2: they're in the same situation where you left from. They're

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Speaker 2: Tyler Hero. Oh you're talking about I want Duncan Robinson

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Speaker 4: And you'd be surprised what what these deals shake out.

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Speaker 4: We've seen like guys ain't been like been yielding what

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Speaker 4: you get such and such fall of that that it

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00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 4: wasn't going the same way. They're not giving as much up,

441
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 4: especially when these teams, like when you get putting that pigeonhole,

442
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 4: like a player come out and say, hey, I want out.

443
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: Want out, Like you done, You're done. They like, we

444
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: ain't gotta we ain't gotta be at your back.

445
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 4: And cup because we're basically helping you at this point

446
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 4: because your dude just said he won't out. So no

447
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: matter what happens, you gotta get out or you got

448
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 4: you your situation is blown up. So at that point,

449
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 4: all if they exhausted to a certain point, it'll get bad.

450
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 6: See I told you all.

451
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Why didn't get that bad? Why

452
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: didn't get that bad? They could make pull the trigger

453
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 2: for Dame Lillard.

454
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 4: That question, I mean, I don't know the answer to that.

455
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 4: I thought that I thought that was a done deal

456
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 4: like everybody else, they.

457
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: Didn't want to give up Tyler Hero. I don't.

458
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: I don't see it was a scenario where a team

459
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 2: doesn't get Tyler Hero back as a piece.

460
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: Do you see that scenario?

461
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 4: You never know, man, You know I didn't see it.

462
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: I didn't see. I didn't see a scenario on the

463
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 4: planet where Dallas was trading Luca.

464
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: But look what happened.

465
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I didn't learn my lesson, like I didn't

466
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: see in Shaq get traded.

467
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

468
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 4: MJ left the boys like anything happened in the right

469
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 4: circumstances that do whatever they feel is the best. That's

470
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 4: just how I go. And then they gonna tell you

471
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 4: that's good business. You know what I'm saying. This was

472
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 4: best for the organization. That's why I don't be mad

473
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 4: when players go do what they gotta do.

474
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: I don't see it.

475
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: People been talk been pat Riley supposed had done, had

476
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant when Kevin Durant was a free agent, When

477
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Durand got traded, when Kevin Durant was a free agent,

478
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: and god to state, he didn't go he didn't. Well,

479
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: Lebron that was there, so he couldn't go there Okay,

480
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: when he became when he goes to the Knicks, I

481
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: mean the Nets. Then what no pat Riley, he gets

482
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: traded in Phoenix. Still no Miami heat. I mean at

483
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 2: some point time, won't you You didn't give up? Oh,

484
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: Joe d Wade says, the first moment he thought Lebron

485
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: might leave Miami is when pat Riley.

486
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: Took his cookies. Let's take a listen to what d

487
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Wade had to say.

488
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 7: That was funny that this was the first moment where

489
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 7: I had an inklean that Lebron may not be back.

490
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 7: One thing you don't do is with Lebron cookies.

491
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.

492
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 7: He was serious, like he loves chocolate chip cookies, like

493
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 7: chocolate chip cookies and ice cream.

494
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: He loves right.

495
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 7: And so when he gets on the plane, Bron walks

496
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 7: on the plane with a bag of food. One bag

497
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 7: is all cookies and the other bags are what his

498
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 7: chef has prepared for him to eat because he eats

499
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 7: a certain way.

500
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: He don't eat what's on the plane. Yeah, but you know,

501
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: he have his cookie.

502
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 7: So we get on the we get on the We

503
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 7: get on the plane and we play cards at the

504
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 7: front of the plane.

505
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: We play cars.

506
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 7: And then at some point bron gonna be like, hey,

507
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 7: bring me those cookies. And this one day he was like, hey,

508
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 7: well my cookies at and they had to come up

509
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 7: there and whispering is in and tell them that when

510
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 7: no more cookies on the plane. Yeah, that set back

511
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 7: away from the game. He pushed that table that cars back.

512
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 7: He sat there quiet, doing his head like this. I

513
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 7: was looking at him like.

514
00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: He played cards. No more. He's sat there like this, Hey.

515
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: You see you see what that see? Then that cost

516
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: pat Riley. See pat Riley's trying to try to show

517
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: I run the show. Not looking at.

518
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 7: That's too much.

519
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: You're doing too much. You don't you mean to tell

520
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: you mean to tell me. You trying to prove a point?

521
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: So you take the man cookies.

522
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: Hey, you never bother person's Never bother person's flow, all

523
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: of them in which way they travel, a routine in

524
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: which they like to eat, in which they like to prepare.

525
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: You never do that.

526
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with the game of basketball.

527
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: I understand trying to set a precedent. I understand control,

528
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: you know, but over abusing your power. Come on, now

529
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: that you took the man cook it, so hey, I

530
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: have a question. Do you think there's a chance you

531
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: think that might have been the last strong.

532
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Yes, because there Look, there are some things that Lebron wanted,

533
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: like like uh uh Maverick and Randy potentially traveling on

534
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: the planes, having access like that he had in Cleveland,

535
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: so forth and so on. We know pat Riley limited

536
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 2: that if he didn't nix it all together. Okay, fine, probably,

537
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: but here's the thing. You knew that when he came

538
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: in there because Lebron team. Lebron's gonna lay out what

539
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: he expects. When he went to the Lakers, he told

540
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: Magic Randy blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, b

541
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Speaker 2: Bill plane gonna travel Da Rich father Da Da Da

542
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: Da Mariack Dad. Okay do you want I'm sure when

543
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 2: Tom Brady went to Tampa, I need my guy to

544
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: be here. I need him to have to be able

545
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: to set up so forth and so on. Okay, you

546
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: knew that. You knew that. You get the man there.

547
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: It's almost like a recruiting visit. Oh yeah, you're gonna start.

548
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna start once I get your ass on Cambra.

549
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: You're don't sign that letter intent I do what the

550
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: hell I want to do?

551
00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: Now?

552
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: You can't do that anymore? Could the guys jumping the

553
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: portal on your ass? Excuse me?

554
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Did jump into portolo? You tell O Joe and then

555
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: you you you in trouble. But I don't get this

556
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: pat Riley. I mean there are some things that he.

557
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: Said about he was telling Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson.

558
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: Uh, he got up like Lebron wanted to.

559
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: Stay and then like U for Thanksgiving blah blah blah,

560
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: and I just but I can I can see now,

561
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: I can see now to do that, that's petty, that's you.

562
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: That's you trying to show I run the show.

563
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean see, And that's unnecessary because very think

564
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: about Lebron staying a few extra years in Miami. How

565
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 3: many more rings do they get?

566
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

567
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: But you sacrifice that because you want to prove a

568
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: point in showing that you're in a position and you

569
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: want to over over abuse it. And even now the

570
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: stuff with Jimmy Butler. Yeah, I'm not saying Jimmy's right.

571
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Patti's wrong because internally I'm not there.

572
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: But there's always an issue where there's a power struggle.

573
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be a power struggle. If you want to

574
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: do one thing, everybody the main thing should be the

575
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: main thing. If you're part of the Miami Heat, pat

576
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: Riley's main goal should want to be winning championships and.

577
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: To do so ojo.

578
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: If cookies were the issue, do you know how many

579
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: cookies would be on that damn plane?

580
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: Oh? I got you? Yeah? Do you know? Yeah? What? What?

581
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: Where do you want the cookies from? Are these gourmet

582
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: cookies that we need to go to a special shop,

583
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: or these regular chips are hard or some type of

584
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: chocolate chip that we can.

585
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: Buy from a local grocery store.

586
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: Right.

587
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: I just need to know Lebron what it is, because

588
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I promise you there is not a superstar player in

589
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: any sport. Let me ask you a question. If Chee

590
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Wayne Tony shows up and says he wants something special,

591
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: they're going to have. If he says there's a Japanese

592
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: cuisine that I need to have before every game and

593
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: I need to make sure when we travel I have it,

594
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: I guarantee you they're gonna have it.

595
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely. If Patrick mahomes Joe Burrow or.

596
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: If whatever superstar player, if Shape goes to ok see

597
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what the delicacy is in Oklahoma though

598
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: I've only been there once. But I guarantee you if

599
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: Shane says I want this on the plane, We're gonna

600
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: have that. I mean, lil od me. I said, Mike,

601
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: we want to watch the fight. Mike would have it. Mike,

602
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: we won't need this on the plane. Mike would get it.

603
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me you took Lebron James cookies

604
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: for what?

605
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Right?

606
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: If the man's if the man, if Lebron's overweight, I see, Hey, bro,

607
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: you need to cut back on these. When is Lebron

608
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: James not been in shape? We marvel at his body

609
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: and you're twenty two. We've done that since he was

610
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: gotten to the league as an eighteen year old rookie.

611
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

612
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a time that Lebron has not been

613
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: in shape. Like you said, this was a power trip. Yeah,

614
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: you won the.

615
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Battle, you lost the war. Pat That's unfortunate.

616
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 6: That's unfortunate.

617
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: Now we don't even have a chance to come out

618
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: to East.

619
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 6: I think we matter of fact, we're still coming out

620
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 6: to the East.

621
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you know you're not. Y'all can't beat Boston,

622
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: y'all can't beat Cleveland, y'all what we can't what beat Boston,

623
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland or the Knicks? Not in a seven game series.

624
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: Y'all might win a game, but y'all winning seven games,

625
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: y'all win four games.

626
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: I know. I just I just want to get excited.

627
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: I just want to get excited. We need we need

628
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: two more pieces.

629
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: And you how d Wade explains it. D Wade said

630
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: he knew he was upset. Say that man pushed back

631
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: from the table and he didn't play cards.

632
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: No mo.

633
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's messing.

634
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Don't mess up a routine.

635
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: Don't mess up a routine that I'm probably thinking about

636
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: how long he Lebron been doing that routine of having

637
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: those He's on that flight?

638
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Yes, shit, man, man, let me get up out of here.

639
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: And I mean, I've heard this is d Wade is

640
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: not the first person that I've heard Lebron crazy about

641
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: chocolate chip cookies, right, And to do that, I thought

642
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: that was petty.

643
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: I think it was unnecessary.

644
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: But I think it was pat Riley trying to prove

645
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: a point that I run this show and if I

646
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: don't want no cookies on this plane, it ain't gonna

647
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: be no Dad damn cookies on this plane, and Lebron says,

648
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: you know what, You're right, this is your ish.

649
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I take my show on.

650
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: The road, and he did exactly that.

651
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: Shams is predicting that Lebron Lebron's next season the NBA

652
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: will be his last, which would be a poetic end

653
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: to number twenty three. You're twenty three for number twenty three.

654
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: They have the All Star weekend in Los Angeles. So

655
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: to me, it's a very storybook if that's the way

656
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: it goes. But that's a decision he's got to make.

657
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Real.

658
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: You just watched the man in your twenty twos make

659
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: second team All the NBA. If he the mad first team,

660
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's mad. If you put him in

661
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: over Donovan Mitchell, Donovan got in blessed. He averaged twenty four,

662
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: eight and eight. He doesn't really have to do the

663
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: heavy lifting anymore because of Luca, So he's He and

664
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: ar are still there. So now you put him in

665
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: the dunker spot, you let him play off the ball,

666
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: He's still gonna be in the twenty points. How long

667
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: do you think Lebron wants to play? How long is

668
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: he going to play.

669
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 8: I'm always saying he was gonna play ti Bryce Gott

670
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 8: No leaders. So where Bright goes to Arizona next year.

671
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: That'll be your twenty three. So in order for him

672
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: to play with Bryce, he's got to be twenty four.

673
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 8: So I'll give him twenty four twenty five.

674
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you get twenty four, you got him.

675
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: It's like, I ain't worried about nobody getting twenty five years.

676
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 8: And then if you get the twenty five, we'll get thirty.

677
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: If nobody can hold up, you might keep.

678
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: Because twenty three that will be forty one. Twenty four

679
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: that'll be forty two. Twenty five that will be forty three.

680
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: That's the same as Tom Brady was when he retired

681
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: twenty you.

682
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 8: Know, twenty five years and one profession.

683
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: That's that's that's legit. That's a low man.

684
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: You're a dark or lawyer, you get that many time,

685
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: or you're the day of military exactly.

686
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: So you know, is not only not only to play

687
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: that long, but to.

688
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Be dominant that long, to play at that level you.

689
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 6: Be consistent, it would be one of the best.

690
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: The average twenty four points a game in year twenty two.

691
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: There are some guys that didn't average twenty four points

692
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: for a career. There are some guys that didn't. Didn't

693
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: I mean never had a season in which the average

694
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: twenty four. This guy's in year twenty two doing that

695
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: right when you look real, when you when you look

696
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: at it, look been around the game. Your dad coached

697
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: the game. So you've been around basketball all your life.

698
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: What do you think is the most impressive thing that

699
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: you that what Lebron is doing? Is it the year

700
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: twenty two? Is it the ability to go out there

701
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: and still give you average twenty four, to go out

702
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: there and give you a game where he can give

703
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: you thirty average, you know for a week, give you

704
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: thirty straight, go get you forty? What do you think

705
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 2: is the most impressive thing at this juncture? We look

706
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: all all the twenty one time first Team All NBA

707
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: twenty one times all start with So we get all that,

708
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about what you're witnessing now. What do

709
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: you think the most impressive thing that you see him?

710
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: And you you was with him for four years. You

711
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: watched him every single day, come in, get shots up,

712
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 2: run cold tub massage, thing, you saw it all real.

713
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 2: What do you think the most impressive thing that Lebron

714
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: is doing currently.

715
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 8: I always said that the way he take care of

716
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 8: his body, way he pay attention to his treatment and

717
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 8: stay on schedule with that, that that attests to his

718
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 8: longevity and never really been heard or having a major injury.

719
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 8: So just the way his body is held up, like

720
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 8: his skill set is gonna be a skill set.

721
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: He puts the work in.

722
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 8: You see him putting the work in after games or

723
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 8: after practice. He's always a last one shooting or someone

724
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 8: getting up shots or working on different moves. So the

725
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 8: way what he puts into the game is when he

726
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 8: gets out, and also what he puts into his body

727
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 8: is what he's getting out of his body. So to me,

728
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 8: it's just the longevity of you know, being that consensitive,

729
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 8: no injuries, no major injuries, bouncing back and still being

730
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 8: healthy enough to do what you do and and do

731
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 8: every day.

732
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: You was with him, Lebron got there, so you was

733
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: there use with him eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen. Did you

734
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: have when you was there with him, did you have

735
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 2: any idea that Lebron James would still be playing twelve

736
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: years later?

737
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 8: No, Lie, I did, just because like I tell people

738
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 8: this all the time, bron would really get treatment if

739
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 8: he was in the club, Like he would literally have

740
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 8: something on his knees or something on his back inside

741
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 8: the club.

742
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: So it's like when.

743
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 8: Somebody's doing that, like that's real dedication to just be

744
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 8: in the club with treatment I or whatever, like the

745
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 8: stem machine where it's like shooting electric or electric electricity

746
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 8: on your knees and stuff like that, just hamstrings, like

747
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 8: lower back. He always got something that's recovery, making his

748
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 8: body recover. So that's the thing is like once you

749
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 8: see that, like that's a different type of dedication, Like

750
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 8: I'm not I have to take my hat off to

751
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 8: that one.

752
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: Johannis has now more first team All NBA selections than

753
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. Johannis has seven, KD has six. What more

754
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: does Yoannis need to do to pass KD all time.

755
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible.

756
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 8: Really, I don't think it's possible, just because I look

757
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 8: at Katie's skill set and like there's nobody gonna be

758
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 8: a skill set as KDS where ball handling, be able

759
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 8: to shoot the ball better get to the spots he's

760
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 8: gonna get to. I don't think there's gonna be another

761
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 8: Greek freak either, But yeah, us in an offensive game,

762
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 8: it's not polishing us like kd's for him to be.

763
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Better than KD. So you just look at aesthetically. I'm

764
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: just looking at that.

765
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 8: When I look at somebody, I say, who's better than

766
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 8: somebody I look at. I put him in a one

767
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 8: on one matchup and see who would dominate that one

768
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 8: on one match up to the game to five, I

769
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 8: think KD would get Jannis five four or five three.

770
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I just got him figured just obfously better. Wow,

771
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: what happened if Janna gets the ball first? Same thing?

772
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 8: I think KT still figured out? How way I think

773
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 8: KD gets to stop before? What on what? Giannis is

774
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 8: all downhill? Now we're playing three or four exactly, playing

775
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 8: three or four dribbles downhill?

776
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I'm saying, you go, you got

777
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: to table to rule players play.

778
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 8: We played one on one three or four dribbles max.

779
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 8: So in that type of sety, I'm not taking Giannis

780
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 8: over KD. I'm not taking too many people over KD

781
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 8: in that type of setting.

782
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Joanna's hands five first team All Defensive for first team,

783
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: KT has none, KD has does have two finals MVP.

784
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Janni's has one.

785
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: It's huh no, Johnny's has two regular season m vps.

786
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: KD has one. That's gonna be very that's gonna be

787
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: very interesting.

788
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 8: That's gonna be interesting when their career, he's gonna have

789
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 8: a head of a career like that's that's the thing.

790
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: But it's still you're not better than Katie.

791
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: I think I think, you know what, I think a

792
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: lot of that has to do with aesthetically, because we

793
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: like guys that can handle the ball, uh shoot flashy.

794
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing like really Johnny's game is really

795
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: like old school, like you said, you know, just trying

796
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: to get down he'll post. I mean he's still I mean,

797
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 2: you know, three point doesn't shoot that well. He ain't

798
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: really got no miny Rangers post. It's not great. He's

799
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: basically getting downhill, laying the ball up, you filing, or

800
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: he's spinning dumped them.

801
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: That's yo, honest.

802
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: It's still hard to stop because he's averaging thirty sixty

803
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: percent from the damn floor. So it's still hard to say.

804
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: It's just not as it's.

805
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Just not as pleasing to the eye, is what we

806
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: watch KD.

807
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 6: Do and You're comparing two different players and two different

808
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 6: skill sets all together, and at that point, regardless of

809
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 6: accolades and what they accomplished on their resume, it depends

810
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 6: on It's all on preference at that point.

811
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that. I see that.

812
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's but whose impact, Who's impacted the game more?

813
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 6: Oh? Ship, that's damn did the same Almost.

814
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: Huh. That's a tough one right there, because let me

815
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: ask you this.

816
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: If I take if I take KD out and put

817
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 2: Giannis in there with Clay Stephen Draymonds, do you still

818
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: believe they were the NBA Championships.

819
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I'll think about the score of the aspect,

820
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 9: but yeah, I still get to him because then that

821
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 9: way you take and your dollar doesn't have to guard

822
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 9: Brown by himself.

823
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 8: Now you got two or three bodies that can guard Brown,

824
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 8: and that's gonna be a little bit different.

825
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I still give it to go to state.

826
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Now, if I take KD and I put him on

827
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: Milwaukee the year they wanted the weird, they wanted to

828
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: beat Phoenix, you think they still win the championship with

829
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: k D and Joannis out.

830
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 8: I mean, they barely got past Brooklyn. So Oh yeah,

831
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 8: I think so. I definitely think so, KD. If he

832
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 8: didn't step on that line, Milwaukee don't win that championship.

833
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: That's that's gonna be when it's all said done, That's

834
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: gonna be a very interesting conversation. That's gonna be a

835
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: very very intr resting conversation I have because they are

836
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: so diametrically different hing nothing about one's game reminds you

837
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: of the other.

838
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: One is.

839
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: As you said, Rio is one of the most skilled players,

840
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: one of the five most skilled players that we've probably

841
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: ever seen with this size, being seven foot.

842
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Tall, being able to handle the ball. He can shoot

843
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: the three, he can.

844
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: Got, he got the mini, he got the heavy h

845
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: he can fit get to the rim, he can fit

846
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: free throws. He's an eighty eight eighty nine percent free throw.

847
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: So he's he's as good as skilled. Because guys that side,

848
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: they normally play center. They played with him back to

849
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: the basket. We ain't see no guys. You and Dirk

850
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: could shoot the ball. Dirk was not putting it on

851
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: the ball, going between his legs, going between hind his back,

852
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: doing what Kd's He just wasn't doing it. I mean,

853
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: Dirk had that. Dirk padded that that one leg step back.

854
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: He's shooting it. It's gonna draw rain and skill.

855
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're ever gonna see a guy

856
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: at his size and skilled a kd his ability because

857
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: it's just for his ability to shoot the Lebron's responds

858
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: to the no bad comments and mind the Game podcast

859
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: and shuts up haters. He said, I see it all

860
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: the time. I be on social media and be like,

861
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: Lebron has no bag. Lebron has no bag. I'm sitting

862
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: here with fifty billion points.

863
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: That's it, that's safe. But what else you're gonna say

864
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: about that?

865
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: I mean, all these people that got bagged, let me

866
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: ask you a question. Of all the people that got bags,

867
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: how many of them are gonna have more points than Lebron?

868
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Nobody? Nobody, nobody. So I'm talking about whoever got the bag, whoever.

869
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: We think has a bag, Kyrie James Harden, Steph Curry,

870
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: who else we think got bags?

871
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Who gonna have that many points? Nobody?

872
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I don't think I don't think Michael Jordan

873
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: had a bag like that. When you're talking about had

874
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 4: no dolledge, just yeah.

875
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: He wasn't the head of that thing like Kyrie and

876
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Steph Curry.

877
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 4: Now, but he was he was efficient and getting to

878
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: his spots and when he when he raised up the shoot,

879
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: it wasn't nothing you can do.

880
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: You just had to hope he missed.

881
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 5: Yep, but this isn't in that And I'm a I

882
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 5: am a Jordan fan, right, so you know I respect

883
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: the greatness of Lebron and the greatness of Kobe, right, Like,

884
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: why is it in basketball we gotta tear down one

885
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: to to love the other.

886
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 7: Much?

887
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: That's what That's what debate television has done. Jail, you pick,

888
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: when you pick.

889
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: One, you gotta ho I gotta I gotta accentuate my

890
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: guy all the while addressing the flaws of your guy,

891
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: and in the flaw and addressing the flaw. It looks

892
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: like I'm hating, but I'm just pointing out weaknesses in

893
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: his game while accentuating the highs of my guy's game.

894
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: Right, But oo is it happening that win in football?

895
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: From a quarterback.

896
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: Perspective, Yeah, yes, we like Brady Mahomes. We had Peyton Manning.

897
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah you do you do? That was debate because you

898
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: gotta pick a side. The days of like straddling the fifth.

899
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: You used to be well, I like them both.

900
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Now you can't.

901
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: You can't be on TV, you can't be on radio,

902
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: you can't be on podcasts because people go to, well, hell,

903
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: I could have said.

904
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 10: That, right, right, yeah, But and I'm not saying nom

905
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 10: damn reels of Peyton and Brady versus Brady or whoever

906
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 10: else the way that you see it on Bron, Like

907
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 10: I see it's like this.

908
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: It's like what Jordan did this this or Lebron didn't

909
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: do this as a or vice versa. Right, It's like

910
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 5: on social media, I'm like, why is it? Why is

911
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 5: that such a divide?

912
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: It didn't used to be like that until debate television

913
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: came along, Jail, because there was never a situation where

914
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: we were debating Bird and Magic like that. We didn't

915
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: didn't do it like it is. But here's the thing.

916
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 2: Prior to this, nobody had ever had what Lebron had.

917
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: The points, the reb the assists, the All nbas, the

918
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: All Stars, the MVPs, the Finals MVPs. So nobody who

919
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: was really even close to really have a comparison because

920
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: nobody had been a four time Finals MVP.

921
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: One got that.

922
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: Nobody had that many MVP's, so when you started and

923
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: see Biggs, we completely removed bigs from the equation. Kareem

924
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: got six for MVP's. Ain't didn't nobody talking about Kareem.

925
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Russell got five, Chamberlain got four. But don't nobody talk

926
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: about the bigs because man, somebody got to getting them

927
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: the ball. The other guys that we talked about, they

928
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: could take the ball and do what they need to

929
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: do themselves.

930
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: So it's that's where we are now.

931
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: It's only in sports where you could have a comparable

932
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: comparison because you don't see it in baseball. Ain't nobody

933
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: being compared to Barry Bonds, Nobody being compared to Walter

934
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Johnson or Greg Maddix, all these great It's just and

935
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it's basketball and football.

936
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: Damn boil Lebron James, he Lebron James. He how many

937
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: we get?

938
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: How many more? How many more years you play jail?

939
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: You're give him one year, two year, three years? I

940
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: think you've done after this year. You think you've done

941
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: after you okay, twenty three. You know Brice Brice could

942
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: be eligible to come to the NBA. H you know,

943
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: if he do that I'm a golden right. If he

944
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: can get if you can get both his kids in

945
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: there at first.

946
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 5: Of all, that'd be amazing to you know, to be honest,

947
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 5: but to just see that man play with his son

948
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: and have that level of longevity, that consistency, you know,

949
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 5: to keep itself together and still play at the highest

950
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 5: of levels. Yeah, you're not gonna see that again. And

951
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 5: you ain't gonna never see that again. That's his story history.

952
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: You know what you think about you think about today's player,

953
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: today's game, Uh, the type of money they making, like

954
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 4: the the the grind that you got to put into that.

955
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 4: I mean, to have that type of longevity, I can't

956
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: see it happening again. Guys they record whenever he's done.

957
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: However many points he put up, man, it ain't gonna

958
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: ain't nobody catching it.

959
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't see these because I don't know if anybody.

960
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: Because he's been the one guy that's been able to

961
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: play and avoid the big injury. Yeah, everybody's had a knee.

962
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: We see guys getting the ki leads and things like that,

963
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: jail Lebron James has been able to avoid that injury,

964
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: those type of injuries that sidelined him for fifty sixty

965
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: games or an entire season.

966
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Well, let's say to see y'all.

967
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 5: Y'all notice, offhand we talk about the physical ability and

968
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 5: where to take to put that together, but we know

969
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: when we on the other side of the hell mentally

970
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 5: and emotionally, y'all, man, Yeah, you see it coming, you know,

971
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 5: talk yourself in it.

972
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: You hurting body ache and needs hurt ankle bad? Yeah,

973
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: just that you and people want to go to the

974
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: bathroom jail. Your body hurt, the ankle, the knees hurt

975
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: so bad. Like I think I can. I think I

976
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: could wait. What time is it? Yeah, I got another

977
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: two hours in I could wait.

978
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: I ain't walk barefooting in almost eighteen years, I put,

979
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: I don't walk barefoot in you. I hurt too bad?

980
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: I got on hey, I got I walk around with crocs.

981
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: Or sandles in my house. I can't put my hey.

982
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: I ate

983
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: M hm