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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: In our number three play Travis buck Sexton Show, We're

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Speaker 2: about as far apart as we can nearly be in

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Speaker 2: the continental United States. Buck down in Miami, I'm out

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Speaker 2: in LA. We are covering the country from the east

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Speaker 2: coast to the west coast, making sure that all of

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Speaker 2: you are as informed and entertained we hope as we

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Speaker 2: can possibly make you every single day. And then we're

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Speaker 2: sitting here two weeks after the election, California still has

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Speaker 2: not finished counting its votes. It's unacceptable. It needs to

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Speaker 2: be resolved. I say that as someone sitting here in

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Speaker 2: California right now. But Buck, now that it's been two weeks,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the data is out, and the biggest

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Speaker 2: move that occurred from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: in terms of groups voting is young men, white, Black,

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Speaker 2: Asian and Hispanic under the age of thirty overwhelmingly moved

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Speaker 2: to vote and support Donald Trump. Many of you out

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Speaker 2: there to us right now may have kids, may have

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Speaker 2: grandkids that were a part of this group voting for

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Speaker 2: the very first time. Some of you are listening to

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Speaker 2: us right now, and you voted in an election for

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Speaker 2: the very first time, and you voted for Trump and Buck.

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Speaker 2: I wrote last night when I was flying to La

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Speaker 2: a column that is up at OutKick right now. I

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Speaker 2: shared it from my Twitter. We'll link it up at

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Speaker 2: clayanbuck dot com. But I've been thinking a lot about

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Speaker 2: as these Trump celebrations have happened. You saw John Jones

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Speaker 2: doing the Trump dance last night, Christian Pulistic, the soccer player,

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Speaker 2: did it. Lots of different NFL players, Detroit Lyons, San

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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers, Tennessee Titans, basically the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Raiders all over the country. Young men athletes in particular,

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Speaker 2: are saying, we're Trump guys and we're not.

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Speaker 1: Apologizing for it. How did this happen?

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Speaker 3: How did suddenly it become so incredibly cool for young

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Speaker 3: men to be Trump supporters? Now?

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Speaker 2: I think Trump ran a great campaign. He was intelligent

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Speaker 2: in reaching out to these young guys by doing Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 2: by doing THEO Vaughn, by doing OutKick. Honestly, Aiden Ross,

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Speaker 2: I think is the guy's name. Lots of people who

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Speaker 2: are younger than I am, and then you are Buck,

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Speaker 2: and we're pretty young to be having the jobs that

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Speaker 2: we have are being really impactful when it comes to

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Speaker 2: young men and how they voted. And I've got a

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Speaker 2: thesis for you, and it's been building for some time,

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Speaker 2: and I'm curious if you buy it. Imagine that you

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Speaker 2: were fifteen or sixteen years old when COVID happened. I

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Speaker 2: think younger men this is true too. But those kids,

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Speaker 2: like my kids now, they're fourteen and sixteen, they lived

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Speaker 2: through COVID. But buck just follow me here and see

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Speaker 2: if you buy it. This is my thesis. If you

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Speaker 2: were told, hey, you can't go to school anymore, you

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Speaker 2: can't play sports, you can't go to prom, you can't

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Speaker 2: go on to the mall, you can't hang out with

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Speaker 2: your buddies. You gotta stay at home. You can't go

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Speaker 2: see grandpa or grandma if they're sick in the hospital,

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Speaker 2: because you might kill them. You can't go to their funeral.

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Speaker 2: You gotta wear a mask outdoors to play football whenever

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Speaker 2: you're allowed to play, to play soccer, you gotta wear

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Speaker 2: a mask to play basketball because you might die from

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Speaker 2: this virus, which actually has no statistical chance of killing you.

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Speaker 2: If all of the adults in your life and the

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Speaker 2: authority figures told you that, and you found out that

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Speaker 2: it wasn't true. I think you'd be angry. And if

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Speaker 2: simultaneously you were being told that men were the root

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Speaker 2: of all evil, that masculinity was toxic, you would start

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Speaker 2: to look around, and you might have a profound BS detector.

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Speaker 2: And also you might start to look and find Clay

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Speaker 2: and Buck on social media or OutKick, or you might

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Speaker 2: find Jordan Peterson. You might find Ben Shapiro, you might

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Speaker 2: find Joe Rogan. You might find a lot of male

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Speaker 2: voices out there telling you that you weren't actually responsible

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Speaker 2: for anything other than what you did. And you might

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Speaker 2: have started to look at Donald Trump, who, if you're

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Speaker 2: a young man, you had been told was racist and

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Speaker 2: sexist and totally unacceptable. And then on July thirteenth, you

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Speaker 2: saw Trump nearly get shot, and you saw him rise

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Speaker 2: up and say fight, fight, fight, in what I think

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Speaker 2: the United States presidency. And you might have started looking

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Speaker 2: And let me give you two more little clips here, Buck,

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Speaker 2: because I'm raising boys right now. About four years ago

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Speaker 2: and he said, Dad, how come there's never boy power

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Speaker 2: shirts anywhere? He said they would never. Target would never

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Speaker 2: all walk around saying yay girl power? And we're not

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Speaker 2: allowed to be proud to be men?

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Speaker 1: Boys? Is what he said.

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Speaker 2: I never would have thought about it. Another one of

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Speaker 2: my kids' friends was over and I wrote about this

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Speaker 2: because it in retrospect makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: He said, I was in class the other day and

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Speaker 2: one of our teachers was doing a whole thing on

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Speaker 2: how toxic masculinity is and how white men have caused

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Speaker 2: all these problems. And he said, I'm just over it.

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Speaker 2: He said, I'm twelve. I think it was a sixth

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Speaker 2: How can I be the cause of everything that's gone

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Speaker 1: I'm just a twelve year old kid.

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Speaker 2: I think these boys have seen through the bs and

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Speaker 2: this is one reason, Buck, I'm so optimistic going forward.

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Speaker 1: I think that they are going to be.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely the foundation of the Republican Party going forward, White, Black,

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Speaker 2: think that's why they moved so much to Trump in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. A lot of these guys are just

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Speaker 2: voting for the first time. Do you buy it. They're

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Speaker 2: angry about COVID, They're angry about what they've been told

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Speaker 3: Look, if you're a guy, let's just say, you know,

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Speaker 3: twelve to twenty five right now, right, so you're you know,

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Speaker 3: you're aware of what's in the new well. I mean,

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Speaker 3: obviously twelve year old's very very different perspective from twenty

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Speaker 3: five year olds. But you know, a young man, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in the world today, in America, who do you look

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Speaker 3: you one thing that has changed dramatically in our in

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Speaker 3: But because of social media, we have seen that some

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Speaker 3: You know, we've seen enough of this now where if

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Speaker 3: not think that anybody who is a pronoun sharing male

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Speaker 3: supremacy and things Christopher Columbus should be replaced with you know,

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Speaker 3: Right now, who's really prominent. We don't look up to

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Speaker 3: music acts the same way. I mean, maybe some people do,

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Speaker 3: That makes them feel like there's something that they should

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Speaker 3: have a purpose. You do not have purpose if you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think Buck, the Butler Pennsylvania assassination attempt, if

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Speaker 3: you had said, oh, Trump's a fraud, Trump's a coward, that.

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Speaker 1: Argument went up in smoke.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Buck, how I would respond if I

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Speaker 2: know that I would have been as brave as Trump

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Speaker 2: and stood up an immediately screamed fight, fight, Fight. I

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Speaker 2: I think the argument that Trump was sort of a

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Speaker 2: is young men are desperately craving authenticity. They don't expect

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Speaker 2: and authentic age. Instagram is BS. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: how to work a filter, but I've seen enough girls

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Speaker 2: on Instagram who look like they're twenty four's on the

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Speaker 2: You're like, ah, you know, you're really good at working

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Speaker 2: the mechanics on that. And I think they know that

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Speaker 2: it's BS, and I think, yeah. I asked my son

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Speaker 2: like Andrew Tate? You know, because there's criticisms about Andrew Tate.

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Speaker 2: He said, well, what I take from a dad is

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Speaker 2: quit whining and do more push ups. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: if you're fourteen, that's not bad advice. Do quit whining

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Walt Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Show of all of the.

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Speaker 2: What's the right word here boot liquors extraordinaire that exist

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Speaker 7: Massive disconnect there was between social media and the real world.

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes, unvarnished lies and insanity that they would share,

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Speaker 2: but for you to show up and then be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we need a new start to our relationship after you

435
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Speaker 2: told me that that person was hitler.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't suck.

437
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Speaker 3: Like if you're dating a serial killer, right, and you

438
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Speaker 3: find out that person's a serial killer, and you go

439
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Speaker 3: to all your friends and you're like, man, you know,

440
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Speaker 3: turns out, Joe, you know, I thought he was a

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Speaker 3: normal guy.

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Speaker 1: He's actually killing people left and right.

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Speaker 3: We had an axe murderer. There was a movie basically

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Speaker 3: yes with this plot. You remember, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 1: I do remember.

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Speaker 2: But if you went out and you told all your

447
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Speaker 2: friends and family at Thanksgiving, they're like, hey, where's your

448
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Speaker 2: significant other guy or gal, You're like, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: truth be told.

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Speaker 1: I found out that they.

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Speaker 2: Were a serial killer, serial felon. I couldn't interact with

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Speaker 2: them anymore. It was too dangerous and toxic. I had

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Speaker 2: to get away. People say, oh, that's awful, you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh would you like some more eggnog, maybe you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about it more. And then at the next

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Speaker 2: holiday event you were like, so, turns out I was

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Speaker 2: wrong about the serial killing thing.

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Speaker 1: We're back together again. You would say, hey.

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Speaker 2: That person has major mental health issues. That's what Scarborough

460
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Speaker 2: and Mika are.

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Speaker 3: Doing, or they're just absolutely shameless frauds and liars. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's what they are, And maybe there's

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Speaker 3: a mental health component to being such a shameless fraud

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Speaker 3: and liar. I think that Joe Scarborough knew the whole

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Speaker 3: time that what he was saying was nonsense. I think

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Speaker 3: that he viewed himself as an actor, effectively playing a

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Speaker 3: part for an audience that is completely diluted. And you know,

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Speaker 3: think about this, everything that they had done, Clay overall,

469
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Speaker 3: all the Russia collusion and all the Trump is you know,

470
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Speaker 3: grabbing them by the by the blank and all you know,

471
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Speaker 3: he's a trader and he's he's a criminal and all

472
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Speaker 3: this stuff, and now he's president again for four years,

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Speaker 3: Like get a grip, libs, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's I think part of how this has all gone

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Speaker 3: down in this way. They maxed out their their just

477
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Speaker 3: delusions about how awful Trump would be and how terrible

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Speaker 3: this all is, and now that they have to deal

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Speaker 3: with the reality, I think that they, you know, it's

480
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Speaker 3: like the streams have been crossed in Ghostbusters, like their

481
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Speaker 3: whole world is upside down for a moment, and America's

482
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Speaker 3: healing as a result. Like they can't get away with

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Speaker 3: saying the same degree of crazy stuff anymore because he's

484
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Speaker 3: gonna be president again. It's gonna be fine. He's not gonna,

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Speaker 3: you know, do all these terrible things they say. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna do. What deporting illegal criminals, I don't know. If

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Speaker 3: you're an illegal and you rape somebody, or you're a

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Speaker 3: part of MS thirteen, or you killed somebody in a

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Speaker 3: drunk driving accident, I think you shouldn't be here anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that's pretty straightforward. I don't feel badly for

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Speaker 3: those people that are that are gonna get deported. They

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Speaker 3: they should be deported. It's the law.

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Speaker 1: I also think.

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Speaker 2: This came from bosses at Comcast, because I think on

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Speaker 2: some level, the bosses are willing for crazy town to exist,

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Speaker 2: but at some point the crazy town gets embarrassing for

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Speaker 2: the bosses. And I think the MSNBC bosses that are

498
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Speaker 2: trying to sell this network, and I think they're trying

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Speaker 2: to sell CNN two. The business is collapsing, there is

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Speaker 2: no audience. At some point, you have to stop the

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Speaker 2: train from living in crazy town. And so I think

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Speaker 2: that they won't say it, but I think behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: somebody said, hey, we can't do four years of Trump's Hitler,

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Speaker 2: Like Comcast is not going to stand for that. We're

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Speaker 2: trying to sell MSNBC, Trump's Department of Justice and TC

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Speaker 2: and FCC and everything else. They're gonna have to sign

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Speaker 2: off on our seals, on our mergers.

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Speaker 1: Go make peace.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really the bigger picture story of what's

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Speaker 2: going on here.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I think these media executives are panicked because their businesses

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Speaker 3: are collapsing. They're not gonna get the sugar high that

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Speaker 3: they did in the past off of Trump as Hitler.

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Speaker 3: He just won the friggin popular vote. They're panicked, and

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Speaker 3: they're like, we got to sue for peace. What you

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Speaker 3: see is they they kind of stacked all their chips,

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Speaker 3: and it's amazing when you think about this. They put

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Speaker 3: all their chips and I'm talking CBS News, CNN, New

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Speaker 3: York Times, name a a Democrat corporate media outlet. And

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Speaker 3: they didn't just go in on you should vote for

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Speaker 3: Kamala like we you know, we know they were gonna

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Speaker 3: do that. They went in on Donald Trump is the

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Speaker 3: end of the Republic and if he wins, it's all over.

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Speaker 3: And he won convincingly. Yes, So not only do they

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Speaker 3: have to deal with this new world that we're all

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Speaker 3: living in of it's gonna be okay. He's not hitler.

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Speaker 3: He's actually a really nice guy and gonna do good

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Speaker 3: things for the country. But also it shows that there

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Speaker 3: was a massive pushback to this effort to put all

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Speaker 3: those chips in the table. Basically, the American people said,

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Speaker 3: you know, go go bleep yourself, buddy, you know, like

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Speaker 3: we don't. We don't need to hear this nonsense from

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Speaker 3: you anymore. At least a solid majority of them did,

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Speaker 3: and more so than the last time that Trump won,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's the part of this

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Speaker 3: it's even harder for them to explain. That's the perfect analogy.

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Speaker 3: If you like to watch poker on television, and occasionally

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Speaker 3: I do, that is perfect buck. They put everything they

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Speaker 3: had into the center of the table. They thought they

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Speaker 3: had a hand that was gonna win, and maybe in

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Speaker 3: their mind they did, maybe they had pocket aces or whatever.

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Speaker 3: They thought they had a really good hand, and then

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Speaker 3: the river came and they flipped them over and they

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Speaker 3: were like uh oh, and they got bankrupted and they

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Speaker 3: got wiped out. And they may have thought the percentages

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Speaker 3: were on their side.

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Speaker 1: They were wrong.

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Speaker 2: They read the table incorrectly. They got wiped out, and

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Speaker 2: now they got to figure out how to deal with

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Speaker 2: the bankruptcy. And I think that's a perfect example. Anybody

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Speaker 2: who's ever played poker, thought they had a good.

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Speaker 1: Hand, you go all in.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they were bluffing, maybe they thought the other side's

555
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Speaker 2: hand wasn't very good, and they got wiped out. That's

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Speaker 2: what elections are. Obama was right, there are consequences. Elections

557
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Speaker 2: have consequences, and the consequences here are MSNBC and CNN

558
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Speaker 2: just went bankrupt. And I think some of these guys

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Speaker 2: saw it coming, Like Jeff Bezos didn't go all in, right,

560
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Speaker 2: he was like, oh, I'm folding on this hand, like

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, now you know, MSNBC, you can't go

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Speaker 3: all in on this, and you did, and they're paying

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Speaker 3: the price for it. Because there's the crash and credibility

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Speaker 3: that they have with their own audience as well as

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Speaker 3: with just the broader public. Right, if you still watch MSNBC,

567
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Speaker 3: you're having to accept that they openly, flagrantly, repeatedly lied

568
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Speaker 3: to you for the last year about really everything in

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Speaker 3: this They lied about Biden's cognition, They lied about Kamala's

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Speaker 3: ability and Kamala's campaign. They lied about how Trump was

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Speaker 3: going to go to prison, and how Trump is Hitler,

572
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Speaker 3: and how Trump is going to It's just been all crap.

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Speaker 3: It's just all nonsense. And how do you come back

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Speaker 3: from that? I don't think you do. And I think

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Speaker 3: that this is the the back of the of the

576
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Speaker 3: corporate democrat media has finally been broken by this. It's

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Speaker 3: not all over. They're going to keep, you know, doing

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Speaker 3: what they do, but it's never going to be the same.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit like you know that MP three's

580
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Speaker 3: existed and CDs existed simultaneously for a while, but you

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Speaker 3: can start to see on a chart. I think it

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Speaker 3: was like around two thousand and five, two thousand and six,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's, oh, people really don't want

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Speaker 3: CDs anymore. It's MP three and it just turned into

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Speaker 3: a whole different world. That's where we are now with

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Speaker 3: the Democrat corporate media.

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Speaker 2: I would also add buck a lot of the dudes,

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Speaker 2: and it is overwhelmingly men who run these companies. They

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Speaker 2: knew a lot of this was BS, but they had

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Speaker 2: skeletons in their closet with women. They were white guys,

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Speaker 2: a lot of them, and they were afraid of the

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Speaker 2: BLM rise inside of their business, and they weren't brave.

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Speaker 2: They try to stay behind the curve. So they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: George Floyd's a saint. Oh, it's so awful every time

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Speaker 2: a man, you know, does anything like you shouldn't even

596
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: smile if a woman in a bikini walks by, that's

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Speaker 2: completely unacceptable. They all knew it was BS, but they

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Speaker 2: were afraid in trying to preserve themselves. Trump's big win

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Speaker 2: now gives them a cover to say, hey, the nation

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Speaker 2: has spoken, we got a business to run, and now

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Speaker 2: And I think you're going to see that in a

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Speaker 2: big way. Elon has given them cover. A lot of

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Speaker 3: Radio app and subscribe. And also there's the talkback feature,

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Speaker 3: which a lot of you are really enjoying. Again, this

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Speaker 3: is through the app directly the iHeart app. You go press,

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Speaker 3: you go to the Clay and Buck page and then

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Speaker 3: you press the little CC. I'm sorry, no, you press

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Speaker 3: the little microphone rather, and CC is one of our talkbacks. Here.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear what he had to say.

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Speaker 8: Mark the truck driver Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Here, Clay is right on the money.

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Speaker 8: I have five sons between the ages of seventeen and

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Speaker 8: twenty two to this day, every single one of them

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Speaker 8: is his thought about all the things stolen from them

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Speaker 8: during COVID graduate homecomings from football seasons. They are not

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Speaker 8: over it, they will never.

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Speaker 6: Be over it, and they want.

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Speaker 8: To see somebody paying.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Buck.

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Speaker 1: I this is you and me.

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Speaker 2: We're older, but this is where we have both wanted

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Speaker 2: there to be consequences for all the lies that were

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Speaker 2: told us during COVID. I think young men are cashing

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Speaker 2: the check of the consequence in the way that they

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Speaker 2: are moving, and I think twenty twenty four, really that

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Speaker 2: is a huge part of why they moved the way

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Speaker 2: they did. And remember we had a call it maybe

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Speaker 2: young women as well. Remember the woman we had call

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Speaker 2: I think Maddie was her name from Utah who said

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Speaker 2: this was the very first time she was able to vote,

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Speaker 2: and she voted Trump because she was so angry of

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Speaker 2: prom being taken from her, of them shutting down school.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we even open up phone lines at some point

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Speaker 2: and just say, hey, first time ever voters. I would

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Speaker 2: be interested to hear from them whether this is a

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Speaker 2: cultural conversation among their groups that are occurring. I think

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Speaker 2: it is. Maybe we should open up phones for young

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Speaker 2: callers at some point.

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Speaker 3: You know, the COVID madness was really pushed by two things,

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Speaker 3: and this is why the problems were canceled and weddings

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Speaker 3: were canceled, and you know, school years were canceled. And

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Speaker 3: in all that stuff, clay conformity and cowardice. People that

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Speaker 3: just went along because that's what people were doing. And

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Speaker 3: people who were cowards, especially in the decision making roles,

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Speaker 3: refuse to say this isn't helping. In fact, this is

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Speaker 3: just making everything worse. And those are both very anti

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Speaker 3: masculine traits. You don't want to be a conformist, you

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Speaker 3: don't want to be a coward. So it makes sense

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Speaker 3: that people have reacted, young men in particular, have reacted

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Speaker 3: this way.

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Speaker 2: Rebellion's real. You can read that article I tried to

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Speaker 2: lay it out written for him. We certainly want you

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Speaker 2: to download the podcast, Go subscribe, make sure that you're

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Speaker 2: a Clay and Buck vip.

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Speaker 3: We will be back with you tomorrow