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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen or huh hey, welcome to the black

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Speaker 1: a Saturday morning, ready to give you guys some feedback.

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Speaker 1: Find us everywhere you get podcasts. The official weapon of

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Speaker 1: but once a week we take the time out to

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Speaker 1: some of y'all took the time out to give us money,

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Speaker 1: and so thank you. We like to give you a

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Speaker 3: We welcome the good folks who tied to the black

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Speaker 1: That's right, knew a little bit of change, knew a

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Speaker 1: L We do it all over it apparently we do. Okay.

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Speaker 1: We just be out here trying to trying to get it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: like that. No, and she was like, I'll pay what's

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Speaker 1: So thank you for paying me. And yeah, she said,

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Speaker 1: we needed that. And I'm an influencer because I sold

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Speaker 1: One the slavery shirt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because it's just a statement in itself, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: to throw them things. But anyway, I like wearing shirts

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Speaker 1: This is just a question. All right, We're back. Thirty

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Speaker 1: one fifty seven. You can always get angry later was

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Speaker 1: our feedback show. We had eight comments, and because of

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Speaker 1: only episode we really talked in depth about the Charlie

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Speaker 1: He was a gamer and he had comments on Discord,

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Speaker 2: That's been the problem from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Only country that got this problem. And I know what

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Speaker 1: And I'm reading a book about some of these radication,

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Speaker 2: Yes, but the reality is you person you putting out

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Speaker 1: it's kind of everything. Right, you're listening to our podcast digitally,

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Speaker 2: and then that shit slowly pops up and you were like, well, nigga,

432
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Speaker 2: you would have showed me this before we met. I

433
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: would have never wasted my time with you if I

434
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: know that you had these feelings you don't like women.

435
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this isn't really the podcast of like where

436
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: a man does something, and y'all hear me talk about

437
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: how they're not really a man or they don't count

438
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: somehow they just a boy or whatever. You're an adult.

439
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: That man's a man, he has all the rights and

440
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: privileges of being a man in America, and they still

441
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: chose to do something horrible to women. They still count

442
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: and a woman wouldn't know the difference, Like it's just

443
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: a way to blame kind of low key blame a woman,

444
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: Like you couldn't tell a boy from a man. It's

445
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: just like that person whatever they're doing, and then that's

446
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: not even counting. Like the if we just made this

447
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: podcast about crimes, like Guess the Race was just if

448
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: we did more of the darker stuff, which we typically

449
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: stay away from the darkest stuff, but that's dark stuff

450
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: all the time. But if we did more of the

451
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: darker stuff that men do to women, we literally would

452
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: never have a different type of article to cover because

453
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: I have to go look up these articles to cover

454
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: them for our show, and so I'm constantly looking at

455
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: crimes and funny stories to be like, guess the race?

456
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: Should we do this?

457
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: When should we not? Which means I'm just inundated with

458
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: just every day, multiple articles about just a man killed

459
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: his wife. A man killed his wife, man killed his girlfriend,

460
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: man killed the woman's dog and shot out and killed

461
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: the police.

462
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 2: Killed his mother, killed his sister, killed the kids.

463
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah, it's you know, I get it. It's

464
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I never when we're talking about these

465
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: mass shootings. That is a very white man type of thing,

466
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: meaning that the only ones, but they're the vast majority,

467
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: which is why that came up. But yeah, I know

468
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: that brothers are not immune to being indoctrinated from the internet.

469
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: These men are somehow becoming doctrinated. I can't really find

470
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: much information regarding others experiences, but I would have noticed

471
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: in my own personal life is how my exignificant other

472
00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: It started variously innocently, various innocently, with him laughing and

473
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: joking about certain things he was hearing people talk about online,

474
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: saying how crazy it was, and then the rapid progression

475
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: of him embracing those same ideologies, listening to Jordan Peterson

476
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: literally all of this time to all listening to the

477
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: Red Hill ideologies, and it completely rewired his brain. He

478
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: essentially almost became a conservative state. And how it wasn't

479
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: so bad and they never did anything to him. This

480
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: is a black man, which is insane. Yeah, I know

481
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: so many black women that have a similar story to you.

482
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm sure I'm sure there are

483
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: avenues for a radicalization for all of us. Meaning, yes,

484
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people with hard stories about black women somewhere.

485
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what the percentage would be, but I'm

486
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: sure there's somebody right now getting mad typing save the

487
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: fucking email. Just ain't really about that. Not trying to

488
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: blame anyone particular group or people, but what I am

489
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: saying is social media is there to get us all

490
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: going down a rabbit hole. It looks different for each

491
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: of us, but they extreme keeps us scrolling, mid does not. Again,

492
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: there's definitely something going on in this algorithm. Somehow started

493
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: showing him all of these things, and he, for whatever reason,

494
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: embraced it. I remember our daughter giving me a girl's

495
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: rule bumper sticker and him becoming so enraged, asking about

496
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: what about boys, And that's when I really knew he

497
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: had gone on the deep end. Kevin Samuel, Andrew Huberman,

498
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Peterson. It's a dark, dark rabbit hole that leads

499
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: to the man sphere, and I think a lot of

500
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: people are coming brainwashed essentially. Yeah. Yeah, that's what the

501
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: algorithms are there to do too. They keep showing you

502
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: more and more extreme things. The book I'm reading Digital Madness,

503
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: one of the some of the stories I'm reading, like

504
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: they'll like, I'm on the part where they're talking about

505
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: the radicalization of men online, and not black men but

506
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: just men in general. But I'm at the Elliott Roger

507
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: chapter and or what example, and I remember, and I'm

508
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: only bringing this up because I know I normally do

509
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: this just to like make fun and shit on him,

510
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: but this is like a more serious, like like point

511
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: that I'm making. I remember listening to Jail Covan's podcast

512
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: back in the day when it's like righteous Prick, And

513
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: this is right after the mass shooting, and Elliott Roger

514
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: had written one hundred and eighty page manifesto, he had

515
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: put videos on YouTube in his car, he had been,

516
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, very vocal about why he did what he did.

517
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: And he's of course not mentally well. So the logic

518
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily the cojing. It's not necessarily the logic you

519
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: like in a court of law, you wouldn't apply this logic, right,

520
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: But his logic was very much women are not having

521
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: sex with me. I am an involuntary cell of it.

522
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: I am old sex by these women, and all these

523
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: horrores are having sex.

524
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 5: With these guys.

525
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: Because if it's the truth or not, all these.

526
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Horrores are having sex with these guys at these fraternities,

527
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: and one fraternity in particular that he had contempt for.

528
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: So when he drove down the street red shooting women,

529
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: he also shot some men. And I remember it was

530
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: trending on Twitter because everyone's just the fucking living in theory.

531
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: It's all Devil's advocate shit over there, and everybody's going

532
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: not all men and not and not all men going.

533
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: All men aren't like La Roger. But saying literally he's

534
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: shooting he didn't just shoot women. He shot some men too. Therefore,

535
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: maybe his motives of being a woman hater, his motives

536
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: of he just wants to kill women, maybe that's wrong

537
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: because if he just wanted to kill women while he

538
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: killed men, and he was telling you his own self

539
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: multiple times in many different avenues, I'm killing men because

540
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: the men get to have sex with the women. I

541
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: want to have sex with right, he didn't. His problem

542
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: with the men is that they that the women wouldn't

543
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: fuck him, and his perception was that they were fucking

544
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: these other guys. And I remember people debating and you know,

545
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: and right, just prick. This was the point of the show,

546
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: was let me go to something contrarian. But it was like, well,

547
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: we can't really say because he was doing. And I

548
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: was like, but then, what what does that mean? What

549
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: are we saying? Because to me, it's ken to saying like,

550
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: this white guy killed an interracial couple because he hates

551
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: black people. And then we go, but then why he

552
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: killed the white husband? Think about it, clearly, that's not

553
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: what the motive is, you know, Or like then he

554
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: would have just only killed the black wife and the crew,

555
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: He would only killed the black men in their marriage,

556
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: and he would have let the white person live. It's like, well,

557
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: that's not how he works, and we know that. So anyway,

558
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: I say all that to say, like, there are people

559
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: that worship and call him Saint Elliott and all this shit,

560
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: and they still exist on the Internet, and a lot

561
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: of times we still see the remnants of that movement

562
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: and out here whenever we do see a mass shooting,

563
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: and we've just decided to live with it in America

564
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: because we're not gonna stop people from getting guns, right uh.

565
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: Sean says in terms of Charlie Kirk, while it's not

566
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: acceptable that he was assassinated more than him is not necessary.

567
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: Some people deserve a eulogy, some people deserve a h

568
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: for eulogy. Oh fuck eulogy. Okay, that's hilarious term coined

569
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: by and Dissoltment. I think that is pretty clear with

570
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: the category truck Kirk falls in. It's difficult balance to

571
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: acknowledge the world is better off place without him while

572
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: also acknowledging the world will be a better off place

573
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: without political assassinations. However, it should also be acknowledged that

574
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: everything Ice is doing this political violence and should be

575
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: condemned as harshly or more harshly than assassination of a

576
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: nazy piece of Shitia says, I absolutely see your point.

577
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: I thought about political violence a lot this last week.

578
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: My conclusion is pretty much, no political violence. It's the

579
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: best amount because it is normalized. Someone we might like,

580
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: we like, might be next, as it already happened in

581
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: the past.

582
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

583
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of this is thoughts and prayers,

584
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: but like the liberal version, yes I agree, and I'm

585
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: not trying to be a contrayering or jerk about it.

586
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: But like, guys, none of this is something me, you

587
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: and the people that are on the side of like yo,

588
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: we didn't agree with Charlie Kirk. None of us are

589
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: controlling any of this. We don't have the guns, the bullets.

590
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: We weren't telling this kid what to do. There's no

591
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: politicians that were encouraging murder of this guy. And I

592
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: find it interesting because now it's been over a week

593
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: and when we say the term more right, like mourning him,

594
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's mourning him, and by that I

595
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: mean not even his quote unquote supporters. What I'm watching

596
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: is a weaponization of his brand. I'm not watching a mourning.

597
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm not watching I'm not watching these people cry about

598
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: the injustice. I'm not watching them try to solve the

599
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: conditions that led to him being murdered. What I'm watching

600
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: is a denial and and some sort of like Okay, now,

601
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: let's use his name to raise money to terrorize black communities,

602
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: to go after colleges and kids, to attack trans people,

603
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: to to to to They're not to make barista's at

604
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Starbucks write his name down as if Starbucks hires people

605
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: straight out of the fucking you know, uh uh the

606
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: high school, uh, Liberal association groups or whatever like they're

607
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: making these they're just motherfuckers with jobs making minimum wage.

608
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Nobody in Starbucks has a political agenda. They don't put

609
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: you through. It's like if you go to chick fil

610
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: It's like when people went to Chick fil A and

611
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: they kissed in front of the Chick fil A people

612
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: that work there. I know what they were trying to

613
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: say as far as the sign of protest, but it

614
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: also is like nobody that works at the Chick fil

615
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: A had to pass that I hate gay people test.

616
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: They just got a job. Most of those people just

617
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: in the community in Chick fil A is a good

618
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: paying job of that type of job. So they don't

619
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: and they so, yeah, they don't really have anything to

620
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: do with this fight. It's all just symbolism. Yes, it's

621
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: all that. Charlie Kirkiz is a symbol and what he's

622
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: become a symbol of has been like can we make

623
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: you bow down? And what you're watching is something that

624
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Karen and I have talked about many times on this show,

625
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: and I hate hate to be right about it. I

626
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: don't want to be right about it. This sucks, but

627
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: we were absolutely right about it. I'm not gonna play

628
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: the song, but come on, we were right. But y'all

629
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: are watching this people bow down. Everybody thought everyone's gonna

630
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: be so fucking brave.

631
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: When people were saying that, I was like, no, bitch,

632
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: you better vote y'all. Y'all.

633
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the moments that looking around, the moments that require

634
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: a connection to the truth that is grounded and radical,

635
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: is not what is happening right now. And I don't

636
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: mean like I need my politicians to come. I don't

637
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: like this Twitter bullshit that people want performative politicians to

638
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: sound like Twitter. I hate that shit, y'all know. I

639
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: hate it from the bottom of my fucking soul. I

640
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: think it's so stupid. It's why I'm reticent to hop

641
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: on board with Gavin Newsom. I don't need him to

642
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: sound like Twitter. I know some people think they need that,

643
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: we really don't need that. That's not gonna be the

644
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: solution to get us out of this. In my opinion,

645
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but these are also the people that

646
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Speaker 1: are going to end up unanimously voting to honor Charlie

647
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: Kirk because they don't want to be in a situation

648
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: where later on someone goes, well, when we've voted for

649
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Speaker 1: a day to be against political assassinations, you couldn't even

650
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: vote against that because they know it's a gotcha. So

651
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: they're already thinking like, either I gotcha by voting yes

652
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: we should put the Charlie Kirk Memorial Day up, or

653
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I go no, God was pretty much a bad guy.

654
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't think what he did was good, and I

655
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: don't think we should enshrine him, even while I also

656
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: think political assassinations are bad. And someone's gonna be like, Nope,

657
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: that's not what your stance is. You are okay with

658
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: political assassinations of Charlie Kirk. Did they make them do

659
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: this when those Minnesotans were a politicians were gunned down? No, no, no, no,

660
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: there was no no. They didn't have the numbers for

661
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: Democrats to try to pull off this ridiculous move, this

662
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: this completely uh optics move. But the point being like,

663
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter, but nobody's gonna stand by the truth,

664
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Speaker 1: or like no, and I don't and I had to

665
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: come from a hateful place to go. No, I'm not

666
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: okay with that. This this guy is not a good guy.

667
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: His death doesn't erase his life, right, you know, Like

668
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: that's and and and yes, if some people decide they

669
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Speaker 1: don't like me or they won't vote for me because

670
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: of this, I guess I'll lose my seat. But I like,

671
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know if this wi't matter in a year.

672
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so anyway, all this to say, like

673
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: they're not talking about who this man was. I saw

674
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: an AI video a church may put in using his

675
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: voice to do like I'm in heaven now, and they

676
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: won't AI with the Just play a clip of what

677
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: he actually used to say. Ezra Klein wrote a whole

678
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: fucking op ed obituary like worshiping him, talking about envying

679
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: what he built. Check out the if you're premium, go

680
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: check out the pregame from last this week, because I

681
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: did talk a little more in depth about why I

682
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: found the Ezra Kline and Meddi Hassan thing to be

683
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: so troubling. When Ezra Klein would say he envied what

684
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk built, that tells you way more about not

685
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: just Ezra Klein, But about our media economy. That should

686
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: tell you a lot about our media economy. That Ezra

687
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Klein is like man, that Charlie Kirk what he built

688
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: though now I couldn't use one word or what he

689
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: said in his eulogizing of him, couldn't use a single

690
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: quote of Charlie Kirk that matters. But he just built.

691
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: He just the media platform is the following of the

692
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: media platform is a value unto itself that exists above

693
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: what you use the platform for. In our society right now,

694
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan is the best because he got the most

695
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: right and how he uses it not, that's not the

696
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: issue they're writing about Andrew Schultzen the New York Times.

697
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: They're not. They're not detegrating him. They're they're uplifting him.

698
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: Why because look at how he used his platform. He's

699
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: got Trump on there. He's getting this many clicks, this

700
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: many views. The clicks are sayings negative or positive value,

701
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: their integers or whatever like whatever that and I forget

702
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: the exact math turn, but they're these they just only

703
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: hold positive value, meaning we refuse acknowledge minus two, we

704
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: just go two units added to the pow. It's like, well,

705
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: I think what Andrew schol is doing is added negative

706
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: a million units a million. That's a lot. That's that's

707
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: where we're at right now. And so that's why Charlie

708
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: Kirk becomes a saint in this climate, because he was

709
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: able to take a platform that even people that that

710
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: think he did a bad thing and used it wrongly,

711
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: they're like, but how did he get that platform? And

712
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: they're now not talking about a man who died, they're

713
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: talking about a platform, a platform which is essentially up

714
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: for grabs. Is why his wife is taking over when

715
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: she was married to a man who said women need

716
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: to stay their ass in the house. Women don't need

717
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: to be leaders like that. Women just need to listen

718
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: to the man, raise the babies and that'll make them happy.

719
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: But what is she doing. She's gonna carry on his work,

720
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: whatever that means. And they were already raising money off

721
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: of his death twenty four hours later, man like he

722
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: ain't even in the ground yet. It's an all formality.

723
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that their mourning him, is what I'm saying.

724
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: They're just weaponizing rage and attacking people. They're trying to

725
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: get people fired. That's not mourning, you know. And not

726
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: to both sides it, because I don't think it's a

727
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: both sides thing, but I think the Internet is a

728
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: once again integers with no negative or positive value, just

729
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: all just it's all taking up space. What they think

730
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Speaker 1: they're doing is getting revenge for when people did this

731
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: stuff where it was like, oh, this person said a

732
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: racist thing on Twitter. Let's go make them lose their job.

733
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Oh this person said something negative about George Floyd. We're

734
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Speaker 1: going to, you know, get them fired or whatever. They

735
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Speaker 1: don't they don't care whether you thought you were righteous

736
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: when you did that. They only look at it as

737
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Speaker 1: you took the chance to use the will of the

738
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Speaker 1: public to seek and grab power and take it away

739
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: from people and get them kicked off their jobs, make

740
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: them apologize on the news whatever for being you know, racist,

741
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: big at it, in articulate, whatever that power hunger of

742
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: just we're gonna fucking go get you. And yes, liberal

743
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: people did that as much as as not liberal people

744
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: for a time period. Right, that's just I mean, we've

745
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: all seen it. We've all seen you know that mother,

746
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna lose that job. When she get off that plane,

747
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: she is done. You know, that kind of thing to them.

748
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: It never was about right or wrong. It was just, oh,

749
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: they have the power to do that. One day, when

750
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: we get the moment to grab that, we're gonna do

751
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: it to them. And that's why Jimmy Kimo ain't got

752
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: no job, you know what I mean. It ain't about

753
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: right or wrong. It's just here's a moment where society

754
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: is weak towards our side. They're having empathy that we

755
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: don't really care or want, but we will use because

756
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: we don't even display empathy. This man's own words don't

757
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: display empathy. But this is a chance to get Jimmy

758
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: kim off the air, and we don't like how he

759
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: been talking about Trump and conservatives, so we're gonna use that.

760
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: Here's a chance to get somebody fired from their column

761
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: for the Washington Post where they We've been trying to

762
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: let this make this person leave the whole time, anyway,

763
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: But now Karen Attia doesn't have a job. There's no

764
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: black person that works at the Washington Post right now,

765
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: and then editorial or any of the like oversight boards.

766
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Speaker 5: That's on purpose.

767
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: And this was just a moment to do a power

768
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: and that's all his death. It seemed to be it's

769
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: not me. That's I saw a human being get killed.

770
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: I didn't like seeing that video, But I'm like, did

771
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: y'all see a human being get killed? Or did you go, Oh,

772
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: here's our chance, because that's what it feels like, it's

773
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: our chance to go denigrate and harass people instead of

774
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: like memorialize this person. Why are you worried about a

775
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: fucking Starbucks cup? You know what, I've never done going

776
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: to Starbucks and been like, uh, hey, man, put George

777
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: Floyd on there? Why what would that do?

778
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: What is it helping?

779
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: What?

780
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: What?

781
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: What?

782
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: What? What change am I seeking? So it's just I

783
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: don't know that Dave warned them. It's my point. I'm

784
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: sorry for that long ass monologue.

785
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: Careen, go ahead, Oh no, no problem. When I kind

786
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: of seen it and kind of the aftermath and people

787
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: losing their jobs and stuff, I just seen a leaderless

788
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: cult that people are will kind of like floating around

789
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: like vultures. And now everybody's trying to pick their pieces

790
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: and pick their parts of it to see what they

791
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: can get off of it. Like they really don't care

792
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: about the carcass itself. They just want to meet, which

793
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: is the views and the people and the listeners and

794
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: all that type of stuff, because you know they continue

795
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 2: this podcast and all that type of stuff. It's like yeah,

796
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: because they know that these people are particularly people that

797
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: were heavy in those circles, are going through their process

798
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: of grief and they're like, what can we do to

799
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: benefit from it? And it shows them various different ways.

800
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: And I also want to say, when you was talking

801
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: about people fighting and things like that, like you know,

802
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: the democratic side fighting and things like that, it always

803
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: go back to the things we said before. If you

804
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: can't fight with the simple tools, you aren't gonna be

805
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: willing to fight with the hard tools and the simple tools.

806
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: Voting it didn't require a lot and it didn't take

807
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: a lot. So if you're not going to just vote,

808
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: which is the basically the simplest thing you can do.

809
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: I do not look for people in the masses to

810
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: have this revolution. I just don't because they're just not

811
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: built for it. Now, something may happen and somebody really

812
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: might shock me, but from what I see around and

813
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: for social media, most people have the luxury to sit

814
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: at home, and they got a home. Basically sit at

815
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: home and theorize and put out the put up, put

816
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: out there their hypothesis on how these situations should be handled,

817
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: when in reality, they're really not willing to do anything.

818
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: They're not really to put their name on it. They're

819
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: not willing to put their neck on the line. They're

820
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: not going to lose their jobs. They're not willing to

821
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: stand up for anything. And like I said before, all

822
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Democrats have we follow the rules.

823
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: So whatever fuck up rules they make, we're gonna go okay,

824
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: and we're gonna fucking follow them. Most of us are

825
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: not really built for that life when we're really designed

826
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: to challenge the system because most of us have been

827
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: taught it's a bad thing to go to jail. You

828
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: are terrible if you go to jail. If something happened

829
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: to you, it's your fault and you should be punished.

830
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: A lot of people feel like that, But what happened

831
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Speaker 2: If he's standing for the right thing, do you still

832
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: feel that same way or is it other people can sacrifice.

833
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: Like that but not you. Yeah, they are a lot

834
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: of good trouble stuff that we like to throw that

835
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: quote out there, But yeah, I just think the other

836
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: thing about it that I think in the way of

837
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Speaker 1: the Charlie kirk Thing and other people I'm sure have

838
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: made the point, but you know I make it all

839
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: the time, but.

840
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Speaker 5: I took it to level deeper this week.

841
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: Remember when we had the shooting at the school and

842
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: Obama gave a he met the families, and then he

843
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: addressed the nation and a couple tears roll down his cheeks.

844
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Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't blovering, but they were just like

845
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: dignified ticks tears, you know. And obviously, you know, that

846
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: was the moment that I thought something's gonna have to

847
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: happen with gun control. And to the Democrats credit, they

848
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: pushed as hard as they could, and Republicans did not budge.

849
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: They said, even in the wake of these children, white

850
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: children dying, we will not budge as politicians, okay, but

851
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: also societally culturally the type of Republican UH supporter, the

852
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: media of republic Republicans had a complete fucking spin out.

853
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: They just crashed out. It was these kids, this is

854
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: this was not a real murder shooting. These kids didn't exist,

855
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: their families aren't real.

856
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

857
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: Alex Jones went to fucking court. But the fact that

858
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: he never would admit because he could have stopped it

859
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: at any time by being like, you know what, I'm sorry,

860
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: y'all right. And I don't know whether he believes it

861
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: or not. I would assume he doesn't, but I don't

862
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: know that because he wrote the lieout so hard and

863
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: we know it's a lie. But it makes you think

864
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: to yourself, is he lying to himself or he's lying

865
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: to us? Because what I've come to believe is that

866
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: people that can't believe Obama had genuine empathy in the

867
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: face of such tremendous tragedy cannot have empathy. They have

868
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: to believe that empathy is some sort of fake emotion

869
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: that the rest of us are pretending to have. And

870
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: so that person can't even consider that a man who

871
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: just looked in the faces of families who lost innocent

872
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: children could be emotionally affected by it, because they can't be.

873
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: So to them, getting him all emotion is performance. And

874
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: I think even this that they're doing for Charlie Kirk

875
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: is performance. They're performing for each other. They're not experiencing

876
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: real emotions, or they're in such deep denial about the

877
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: emotions they are feeling. Because one would think if you

878
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: were emotionally moved by what happened to Charlie Kirk. You

879
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be saying, well, he last texted me that we

880
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: should send the National Guard into Chicago, and that's what

881
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: we need to do to honor his memory. You wouldn't

882
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: be saying that. You'd be saying, we need to do

883
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: something about people getting guns and killing people. You wouldn't

884
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: be saying that. You wouldn't be saying, we need to

885
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: use this to get black people fired from jobs, or

886
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: we need to do this to get teachers go to

887
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: teachers boardroom, school board meetings and an act of fool

888
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: and record it for Twitter. You wouldn't be saying, I'm

889
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna you've really woken up a beast. I'm gonna get

890
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: all of you that we're gonna really get them now

891
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: for Charlie. You wouldn't be saying that to them. First

892
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: of all, that guy is still alive, who did this,

893
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: the you don't even care why he did it. You're

894
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: already just like now it's really time for us to

895
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: weaponize this white supremacy. So it just made me think

896
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: like maybe you don't have the ability to truly connect

897
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: to other human beings or to even to even consider

898
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: this The tragedy that just happened to the guy that

899
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: you claim to like, Like, you know, it's just crazy,

900
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Like it's this response. It hasn't made sense unless you

901
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: truly consider that they are incapable of saying, I'm hurt.

902
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: I missed this guy. I don't quite feel like doing

903
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: anything right now, Like there's no one to get the

904
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: guys in custody. Uh, he didn't do this on behalf

905
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: of anyone. It's just a sad tragedy that will always

906
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: exist in a world where we just have so many guns.

907
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: That hasn't been a response. It's been we're gonna get

908
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: Democrats somehow, We're gonna get Democratic voters. We're gonna get

909
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: people that aren't from here, you know, stuff like that.

910
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: It's been a very and like I love to say that,

911
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, the politician from Utah, forget what his exact

912
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: role was. But the guy who said I was just

913
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: hoping it wasn't one of us. I hope it wasn't

914
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: somebody from here from Utah and all the you know,

915
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he's a Republican. They have not earned a

916
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt for me to be like, well,

917
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: he would only mean this in the most correct, like

918
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: just a completely unbiased way. I'm not expecting him to

919
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: call me a nigger for me to think this guy

920
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: could have some racial sentiment underneath this. I agreed, if

921
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: you feel like the Republican Utah and have acquitted themselves

922
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: in some way that other Republicans haven't, But I don't

923
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: feel that way, and you have to show me much

924
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: more work to earn that benefit of the doubt. But

925
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: that was a very honest moment he had. But honestly

926
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: can be ugly. But it was basically I was hoping

927
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: it wouldn't some white kid from Utah. That was just

928
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: some normal fucking kid that could be any of our kids.

929
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: That's it. That's what he was really saying. Now, the

930
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: ugliest part is he kind of let slip and I

931
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: was hoping it was one of them. Now, who to

932
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: them is someone from outside of the countries, someone from

933
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: outside of state, someone from outside the racial group, someone

934
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: from outside of religion, something like that, probably, But the

935
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: general point is that's the ugliness in them because it

936
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: was one of y'all. Now, what you're gonna do about it?

937
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do to save your white boys

938
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: from what you have? Indoctrinated them, well from what you've

939
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: let run them up because you want guns and unfettered

940
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: access to guns and NRA lobby money. What are you

941
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna do nothing?

942
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: Right?

943
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: Right, You're gonna do nothing.

944
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: And this is my.

945
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: I guess, my philosophy of kind of open up my

946
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: third eye on this one. When you were talking about

947
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: the empathy part white people and white supremacists, in my opinion,

948
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: learned what white people empathy gets you the civil rights

949
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: laws past. What does empathy get you? It gets you

950
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: devoting rights at this empathy gets you, It gets you

951
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: making it easier and not punishing people. That's what empathy

952
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: gets you. So they learned, I think that they learned

953
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: from that, and they said, we're gonna raise it. We

954
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: have to raise the generation with no empathy. We have

955
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: to raise the generation with no heart. We have to

956
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: raise a generation where you turn on the TV and

957
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, white people are crying because you

958
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: have black people getting water holeses and dogs sicked on

959
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: them and you're making the country look bad. So we've

960
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: forgot to raise a generation that does not care anything

961
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: about that. The hatred in their heart and just disdain

962
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: in their heart. Has got to be so enrooted. There's

963
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 2: not gonna be an image that's gonna change their mind.

964
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be a video that's gonna change their mind.

965
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: We have got to raise a generation without empathy.

966
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: I'd even go so far as to say it's not

967
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: even hatred. They want to raise them to not care, right, Like,

968
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: not even hatred. Hatred is almost put in too much work.

969
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: Agreed.

970
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also not caring gives you plausible deniability because

971
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: you can watch an injustice and go, well, I just

972
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: don't care, and you go, well, that makes you complicit,

973
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: and like, I'm not racist. I just don't care, Like

974
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't hate these black people. I just don't care

975
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: that bad shit is happening to them. I don't feel

976
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: that there's any obligation for my country to do something.

977
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: I don't hate brown and people. Hey I didn't vote

978
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: for this, or are you gonna do anything to stop it? No,

979
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: I won't speak out against it either, you know, And

980
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: the last thing I'll say, and then I know we

981
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on this, but this is

982
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: our only real time to talk about it this week

983
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: with our guests. We didn't want to like, fuck up

984
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: their day. I keep seeing people push back against this,

985
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: and I know I'm coming from a different angle, but

986
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: hear me out because it's gonna sound like shocking, but

987
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: it's not. Charlie Kirky is their MLK.

988
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: Yes he is.

989
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

990
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: You know why I say that, Well, I have my

991
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: feelings why because I think they they equate him being

992
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: assassinated the same way they equate Martin Luther King being assassinated.

993
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: They equate somebody that was was vocal and was out

994
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: there and was seen and was quote unquote carrying a

995
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: torch and all of a sudden got taken away from

996
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: them too early.

997
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: If you just take away and that's very close to

998
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if you just take away the values

999
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: once again, back to that, and once again, I'm probably

1000
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: fucking it up. It's been a while since I've taken

1001
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: that math class. I'm saying integers, but I can't remember it.

1002
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: I just know that there was a concept in math

1003
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: where it was like these numbers were not counting. There's

1004
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: no such thing as a negative blank like maybe i'll

1005
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: google that, like, but I remember learning in math that

1006
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a negative integer or something

1007
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: like that like just some uh whatever, but I can't.

1008
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was. So I'm sure there

1009
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: were there's negative integers.

1010
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll just google.

1011
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: There are negative integers. But there's like one concept where

1012
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: there's like, we're not looking at negative numbers, so you

1013
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: can't take away. It's only added. My main point being

1014
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: absolute value. Thank you. That's it, MANGANGHI. Absolute value. They

1015
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: look at this equation, it's absolute value. Meaning we're not

1016
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: saying what Charlie Kirks did for none of us are

1017
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: gonna use his actual words. What we're gonna say is

1018
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: he was a father, he was a Christian, he was American.

1019
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: He was a free speech enthusiast. Not that last one

1020
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: is very dubious because it's not necessarily true. He had

1021
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: a blacklist of people that he wanted to not have

1022
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: free speech, that he did want to attack in silence,

1023
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: So he's not actually a free speech absolutist. But the

1024
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: absolute value of Charlie kirk and the inflection point that

1025
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: he represents is the same thing that is MLK died,

1026
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 1: and suddenly we get some political laws to protect black

1027
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: people's rights to vote. They want that, but to pass

1028
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: legislation that is obviously anti all that. Yes, and that's

1029
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: when they so when they say he's their MLK, that's

1030
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: what they mean. They don't mean what he stood for.

1031
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: They can't use what he's stood for. There's never gonna

1032
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: be a I have a dream speech that they can

1033
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: show on loop on Charlie kirk Day, right.

1034
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: Agreed, And if they people, I'm gonna say this right now,

1035
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: and I hope it never comes to pass. If they

1036
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: get their way, he will be a national federal holiday.

1037
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they want a Dad remembrance already for him.

1038
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: They're using the fact that people have empathy and decorum

1039
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: and goodwill and common sense, and they use to put

1040
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: people in a corner to where they're like, if you

1041
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: don't acknowledge that this was bad how he was killed,

1042
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: and then you essentially saying that it's okay to kill people,

1043
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well, obviously I don't agree with that.

1044
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: And by the way, we're never gonna mention what he

1045
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: stood for, and we're never gonna and we're gonna say

1046
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: that if you mention it, you're actually disrespecting him by

1047
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: saying what he was about. Right, And it's working. We're

1048
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: watching it work time, and so in that way he's

1049
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: their MLK, meaning that at the time that MLK died,

1050
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: there was a lot of silence that had to be

1051
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: had by even his critics, because all of a sudden,

1052
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: this is the first time those racist people had to

1053
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. It was like, no, what happened

1054
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: to this nation is terrible. People are very upset, they're shaken.

1055
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: They don't believe in a foundation. We have to do

1056
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: something to show up the foundation of this country, and

1057
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: we need to pass some laws. This is obviously gone

1058
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: too far. This is now their way of saying, when

1059
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: you guys were honest and critical of whiteness and white

1060
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: supremacy and the gun a minute you guys were taking

1061
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: this is the result of your hatred. You have taken

1062
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: it too far. We have to now pass up laws,

1063
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: pass laws, make remembranses, do something to shore up this

1064
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: I and I'll and this is the last thing I'll say,

1065
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: and I'll move on. But this is to me so

1066
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: damning of America in this moment, because I think for

1067
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: many of us who have lived long enough or have

1068
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: read enough history or aware of enough history, it took

1069
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Speaker 1: UH at least eight years after the Civil War uh

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Speaker 1: for them to throw away the experiment of reconstruction eight

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: years and even then the southern white traitorists Confederate was

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00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: not held in esteem. So it took at least eight

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Speaker 1: years for them to allow lynching and mob rule and

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Speaker 1: terrorism on black people who are just existing in the

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Speaker 1: South again. But it took into the early part of

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01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century for them to have the daughters of

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01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: the Confederacy who then erected monuments to those same traitors,

1078
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: people who then named the city streets and town streets

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01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: and highways at the Roberty League marks and William Bedford

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01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: Forest and all these people to turn these people who

1081
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Speaker 1: are slave owning tyrants into heroes into tragic heroic figures

1082
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: who fought a lost cause. It took them.

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Speaker 5: Decades.

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01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: It took them less than twenty four hours for Tarley Kirk.

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Speaker 1: That is much worse.

1086
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Speaker 2: That is that is.

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Speaker 1: That is not like if if if they were moving

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01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: on horseback back, then they are now moving at the

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Speaker 1: speed alight, right, And and to to erase or to

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01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: attack anyone who would say, hey man, this dude has

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01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: some very wild views, some very problematic views. To attack

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: people for just saying that is Uh. It shows you

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: the depth of the depravity and how much it's not

1094
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: really about this man, and it's just about attacking these people.

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Speaker 2: In his name, right, And you know they wanna call

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01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: him their emilk, But the shit ain't the same. I

1097
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: got family members that are alive and will and kicking

1098
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: when Martin Luther King died, and they have told me

1099
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: stories about the day that he died.

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Speaker 1: You know, they was was killed.

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01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, the day he was killed.

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01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: And you know they was telling me they remember, you know,

1103
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: hearing and seeing family members getting beat by white people,

1104
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: going where is your king? Now? You know what you're

1105
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: gonna do? Now you know your savior is dead? Like like,

1106
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: So it's not the same. It's not the same.

1107
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: It's so obviously not the same unless you're looking at

1108
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: it as absolute value, right, The absolute value of Charlie

1109
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: Kirk is the same to them. Here's a moment of

1110
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: inflection that we can use to galvanize the will of

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01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: the people that support our causes and to mute the

1112
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: will of the people who fight against it. And many

1113
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: people are are balanced down.

1114
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: Yes, But for me, I'm until the day I die.

1115
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: I refuse to lose my fighting spirit on this because

1116
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: I just can't. I have too many people to sacrifice

1117
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: too much for me to get to the point now

1118
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: for me to just lay my sword down and give

1119
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: up all my freedoms, I refuse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as people that give truthful opinions, I mean that

1121
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: be honest with ourselves and our audience on here. It's

1122
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 1: a bit of a scary time because you're watching people

1123
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: that say innocuous things who are much more protected. Jimmy

1124
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: KIMLLL is much more protected. He'll be fine. He'll be

1125
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: fine ultimately wherever he lands. He does not He's not

1126
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: entitled to an older night time talk TV show that

1127
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: loses a bunch of money. I get the symbolism of it,

1128
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: but no one's entitled to that. No one deserves that,

1129
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: you know. But if they can get him, the point

1130
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: is they can get any of us green you know,

1131
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: want the martyr. I'm not saying so I'm gonna say something.

1132
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this to try to like scare anybody

1133
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: or raise money or get you guys support.

1134
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: This is just facts.

1135
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: It's something I think about the time. But you know,

1136
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: in this current economy, a lot of people lost their jobs,

1137
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't have as much. Every day,

1138
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: I log on and I check our our you know

1139
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: what our premium account, people our you know, we have

1140
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: to look at the business side out of this and

1141
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: the money and I go on you know, PayPal or

1142
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: whatever it tells you, like, here's your trends for the

1143
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: last x amount of time, and like people are canceling

1144
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: because you know, people going through it, you know, whether

1145
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: you know it could be other things too. I'm sure

1146
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: people cancel all the time. Just offer like I don't

1147
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: like what they said. It's port, but people cancel all

1148
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: the time. People can't renew, people have to adjust their

1149
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: budgets and stuff, and of course we're feeling the effects

1150
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: of that because we're people sponsored. Right, This isn't brought

1151
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: to you by FanDuel or some shit. This is the

1152
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: people that we get a check from y'all at the

1153
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: end of every month, and that and that month is

1154
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: a different day for each of you, right right. That

1155
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: one is that support. In that way. We might get

1156
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: some some clicks from ads, but the ad revenue is

1157
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: not huge, like this is not a huge platform in

1158
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: that way. And there's things that we say on here

1159
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: because we're free people and we decide to live that way. Man,

1160
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like tomorrow somebody could try to

1161
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: be fucking with us. I don't know. And even with

1162
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: those numbers dwindling down, even with you know that the

1163
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: collective pain that we're all feeling economically right now, I

1164
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: never hesitate to come on here at least be honest.

1165
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: And maybe that means, you know, we be facing somebody

1166
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: trying to target us one day. But the truth of

1167
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: the matter is, I believe in y'all the people listening

1168
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: to the sound of our voice that much that I am.

1169
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: It's a bet that I'm making that we could be

1170
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 1: wrong and we could turn out and be like, damn,

1171
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: I guess they both work at Starbucks, right and Charlie

1172
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: Kirk's name on cups now. But as of right now,

1173
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: I just truly believe our audience would they would have

1174
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: a reaction if we were targeted, Like if somebody would

1175
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: came to fuck with us and they were like, you know,

1176
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: Rod and Karen, they not on our heart no more

1177
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: or something for some shit. They said that it didn't

1178
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: seem that bad to me but for me, and I

1179
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: might be wrong, but I truly believe that we will

1180
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: put out the bat singal like, hey man, we need y'all,

1181
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: like we're down bad. We don't know what we're gonna

1182
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: do with it. We might not have a show like

1183
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: I think. I really do think people would step up

1184
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: to make sure we don't go away, because I think

1185
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: to some people what we say still matters and that

1186
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: we exist in our autonomy and that you know you're

1187
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: getting honesty and you know you're get in realness, so

1188
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: that even when you hear something on here, you don't like,

1189
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, we're not faking it. It's not it's not contrarian.

1190
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: We're not trying to like make a splash or go viour,

1191
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: you know the shit that we're saying. We're just saying

1192
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: because those are the people we are. I truly do

1193
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: believe that's how we have to move. And I'm I

1194
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: think I'm watching how many people can't move like that.

1195
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a lot of people that can't.

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: So when you see something like, man, they didn't even

1197
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: talk about this on the view because they.

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Speaker 6: Can't move like that.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: I understanding this.

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: They can't, but I'm saying they don't. They probably don't

1202
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: want to move like that, but they also can't move

1203
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: like that. On the view, they will not survive in

1204
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: the way that I feel like we've set up a

1205
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: free so there's a freedom while you know this will

1206
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: I always talk about I don't look at other people's

1207
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: platforms and envy and shit because they didn't build their

1208
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: shit the way I wouldn't necessarily want my ship built.

1209
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: I want my ship built. I want my ship built

1210
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: in a way that it doesn't sink because one person

1211
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: didn't like it, right, you know, even when one of

1212
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: y'all right saying it, I ain't like this, I quit

1213
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: the show. You still we have not made a We

1214
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: didn't make this a one person sinks the ship operation.

1215
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: And I truly do believe that if people ever did

1216
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: see the ship start sinking, they sell out and lift

1217
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: us up our hope. And I think a lot of

1218
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: people you can tell can't move like that, and they

1219
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: on these major platforms with huge checks shouldn't be worried

1220
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: about a check for the rest of their life. And

1221
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: they're out here to pitch and already Michael says, this

1222
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: was an amazing episode. Thank you both for two and

1223
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: a half hours of greatness. Both of your reactions to

1224
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: that email from Stephanie that implied you might take Tom

1225
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: off because of Charlie Kirk had me crying. I needed

1226
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: that laugh today. Much love and gratitude of you both. Yeah,

1227
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: come on, you, come on, dog Eve, he says. I

1228
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: like to clarify my statement about Southern grocery stores. I

1229
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: still think they're elite, but the more I think about it,

1230
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: there are good grocery stores up here as well. I'm

1231
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: surrounded by Wagman's and shop Wright is pretty decent depending

1232
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: on the location. I just think grocery stores in general

1233
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: cater to the area they are located. Up here, they

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a peach heat chicken. I'm from the South,

1235
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: so I love Southern cuisine. I live in a pretty

1236
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: white neighborhood, so if I want to get the good season,

1237
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: and it cuts to me, I like I have to

1238
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: drive to the city where more black people live. That's

1239
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: an underrated thing, but that's true because, like, you can

1240
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: go to a white restaurant, but the people making it

1241
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: is black. Sometimes you'd be like, you know what, they

1242
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: did something to this macaroni cheese. That's not happening at

1243
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: the other Red Robin location.

1244
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I go to red ropping and nobody speaking

1245
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: English in the bag, I was like, you know what,

1246
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 2: this is gonna be fine? I know, I man.

1247
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: We used to add Mexican cooks back there, man, and man,

1248
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: it was different. Yeah.

1249
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, whatever y'all cooking, I won't.

1250
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want I god damn breakfast.

1251
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: Whatever y'all cooking, I won't.

1252
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. They would just tell me to put in certain

1253
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: things for my breakfast, and they'd be like, I'll make

1254
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 1: something else, but yeah, just put in an omelet and

1255
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna hook you up with some fucking wavos

1256
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: friend cheryld or some shit. I'm like, oh my god, Yeah, but.

1257
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: Like this shit ain't even known to me and never

1258
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: will be.

1259
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: I remember last year around Thanksgiving, I was looking for

1260
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: turkey next to make dressing, but none of the stores

1261
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: in my area had it, so I had to drive

1262
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: to the city. I know they would have been in

1263
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: a social and grocery store no matter what neighborhood. Plus

1264
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: I miss boil peanuts. I feel you. I'm not sad

1265
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: that Charlie Kirk died. I from keeping it one hundred.

1266
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people. A lot of

1267
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: these people are publicly more than him, do either. Okay,

1268
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: we're kind of on the same page. I'm finding a

1269
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: lot of this online carrying on performative and Dump is

1270
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: definitely using him to keep us distracted from the Epstein files.

1271
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: Donald Trump didn't go to his memorial, and when asked

1272
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: about him, brought up was They were like, how are

1273
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: you holding up in the wake of your friend Don

1274
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: And he was like, they just see the extension on

1275
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 1: the White House we're doing. I don't believe Donald Trump

1276
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:13,879
Speaker 1: has empathy.

1277
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: He doesn't, you know.

1278
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's another one of these people that I know

1279
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: is a terrible person because when you ask people to

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Speaker 1: say something good about him, they normally say, shit, that

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01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: is uh neutral, meaning like he's a father, you.

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01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like what he's a husband.

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: That's not a that's not a I'm sorry to tell you.

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01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 1: That's not a value statement. That's a fact. It's like

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01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: you say, hey, man.

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01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: What do you think about describing anything?

1287
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you think about rod He drives

1288
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: a Nissan right, well, yeah it does d she wears glasses. Yeah,

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01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: well shit, I guess we can't say nothing. Yeah, rest

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: in peace, Come on man, And a couple of weeks

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: his pass and will we be buried under another cycle

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: of news And in a few months, no Harley's beg

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: his name. I think that's another reason, never rushing to

1294
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: try to get as much as they can, and this

1295
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: little bit of time before people wake up and go,

1296
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: what the fuck? What do y'all want us to? Wait?

1297
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: What are we remembering again? Remember Rushlingba He was once

1298
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: lined I as conservative and I brought him, brought him

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: up to a friend to prove my point. She didn't

1300
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: even know he died. Yeah, he got that metal of

1301
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,839
Speaker 1: freedom too before he died. Forgotten because he had absolutely

1302
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: nothing society. But hey, in the fact that no one

1303
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: who is supposedly more than him can quote anything he

1304
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 1: said or stay anything of work that he's done, he'll

1305
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: be forgotten too when the media and content credits can

1306
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: no longer get clicks of views from his name. It

1307
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: does say a lot that he didn't think or either

1308
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 1: he didn't think to do it, or the people that

1309
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: are memorializing him having brought it up. Did he not

1310
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: do any charity work at all? He's kind of crazy

1311
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: if he didn't, right, Like, you just get a fake

1312
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: ass charity. Throw a couple of dollars in there, and

1313
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: then people can at least pretend like, well, he did

1314
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: have of the you know, children of such and such.

1315
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: I know he didn't because if he did, they would

1316
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: have bought it up.

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01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 1: It's just interesting, Like, like I said, this is interesting

1318
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: because you can't even use that. All right, let's get

1319
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: to the YouTube comments. Let's see, we got eleven on here.

1320
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: I love y'all both, y'all killing it. Thank you for

1321
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: awesome feedback. Show y'all dope at fuck. I agree everything

1322
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: y'all said about Charlie Kirk situation, says vocabus. Fuck Damien

1323
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: says I would totally love if Gavin Newsom was culturally

1324
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: aware enough to know showing Charlie Kirk too much love

1325
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: makes you look like a soft white nationalist. I guess

1326
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: that's why they call it privileged, because I doubt Gavin

1327
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: even considered he might receive pushback for trying to be magnanimous.

1328
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1329
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if he really just thought that was the

1330
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: right thing to do, then I'm okay with him thinking

1331
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: that was the right thing to do. I just think

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01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: it's incongruent with the brand he's been trying to take

1333
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: on for the last month and a half. And you

1334
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: can't be mad at people for pointing it out right.

1335
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: You can't be mad at people. People aren't fucking stupid.

1336
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: They just watched you be on some light. No fucks giving.

1337
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: They go to low, I go to hell. And then

1338
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: something happened and you go, well, remember the time I

1339
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: had him on that white spremise is on my podcast? Yeah,

1340
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: that's different. He my boy, and we need to keep

1341
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: up his work. What what can you say? What his

1342
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: work is givin and I guarantee you he'll reduce it

1343
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 1: to an absolute value. He had people talking. He was

1344
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: not scared of conversation. He was a truth teller right now,

1345
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say truth teller. No, that's that's a value.

1346
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even give him that. He gonna just he

1347
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: he he believed in freedom of speech. They gonna use

1348
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: they gonna use ship like that. And then when you go, okay,

1349
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: well freedom of speech to say what Gavin and what

1350
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: does it mean when he had blacklist for people? What

1351
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: does that mean?

1352
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: Dog?

1353
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: Oh, we don't wanna talk about that, Okay, continuing his work?

1354
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 3: Who who?

1355
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: And how would you continue his work. His wife says

1356
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: she gonna continue his work. What do you think she means?

1357
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: Gavin right, Like, it's just interesting, man, because it's something's

1358
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: always gonna happen, and you can't play that game for

1359
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: four years to be president. It's just not gonna work.

1360
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: People now gonna use this moment whenever he goes I'm

1361
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: running for office, and we'll remember how he felt about

1362
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and it's is like, oh god dark Namer says,

1363
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: they tried to make everyone feel bad about the death

1364
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: by flying the US and r Okay flags at half

1365
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: staff over here and are okay, I don't know where

1366
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: r ok is. Damien says, why the f were they

1367
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: flying flags half staff for a guy wasn't even a

1368
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: government official. Also, this is on nine to eleven. He

1369
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,959
Speaker 1: wasn't important. So were they saying we deserve the WS

1370
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: deserves reverence because most of us think not. And I

1371
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: almost it almost makes you forget to not go in

1372
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: on the dead guy, especially when the person was such

1373
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: a dirt bag. The last government official to pass away

1374
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: and have flag lord Jimmy Carter and Donald Trump was

1375
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: mad because it was during his inauguration, so he had

1376
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: them lifted.

1377
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 5: What the fuck?

1378
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're telling you what they believe. Jay Harris says,

1379
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: maybe Karen had bird blindness too, blue hair on pigeon,

1380
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: humming bird, they all the same. Or Karen doesn't watch,

1381
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: doesn't watch Pey, doesn't watch Peacemakers, so she won't get

1382
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: your joke one hundred percent.

1383
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 4: But I do.

1384
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: JJ says what I heard y'all read what knew some

1385
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: said about Kirk. I was like Gavin, No, I don't

1386
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: know why these politics are so insistent on trying to

1387
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 1: palle around and comfort these evil ass people when they

1388
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,839
Speaker 1: know the sentiment isn't shared. These people hate a multicultural, progressive,

1389
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: vibrant society, and nothing you do is going to persuade

1390
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: them to change their minds. Yet that's one of the

1391
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: reasons I don't I cannot honor these people who keep

1392
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: saying this man dedicated his life to good faith debate.

1393
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: He did not right. You can go look at the

1394
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 1: titles of his own video. The caption is he destroys

1395
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: this person. He you know, eviscerates this person. It's mocking

1396
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: the people he's having discussions with, He's using them as fodder.

1397
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: It's not there was never a time where he was like,

1398
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: fuck man, that's a good point. And I actually see

1399
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: how you can feel that way, and and and and

1400
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: like maybe my solution is different than yours, but you

1401
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying that that's not what his

1402
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: job was. It's not what he made a living doing.

1403
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: You can never give them enough because there's always someone

1404
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: wanted to do more and go further than new some

1405
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: types II Trump, they need to put money and effort

1406
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: into their base and getting people out to vote. Kim

1407
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: Doc says new diamonds and pearls, New Hay girls, it's crazy.

1408
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: Wait till she is today, right?

1409
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 7: Uh?

1410
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: D M A T two says there shall be no

1411
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: sugar in dying grit slander allowed and the grit slander

1412
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: allowed hashtag candy hord to hashtag both are great. Listen,

1413
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: you're not gonna.

1414
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: I was saying, how that slippy.

1415
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: You're not gonna Charlie Kirk grits. You're not gonna use

1416
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: just come out here and say lies, and then I'm

1417
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, well, at least we both had

1418
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: good faith discussions. No restaurants don't even have sugar grits

1419
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: on the menu. Shut the fuck up. Joseph says, I

1420
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: remember a lot of stuff too, and I've just accepted

1421
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 1: the fact that everybody has done some stuff that I

1422
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: don't like remember Gladly most of the stuff is not unforgivable,

1423
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 1: but it's very frustrating when it is unforgivable over there

1424
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 1: as a pattern and I'm the only one who remembers.

1425
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: That's the hard part for me. I know what you're

1426
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, like we're talking about did you did

1427
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: we forget or that you know that concept of uh,

1428
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: you know the idea, But yeah, everybody's done some shit.

1429
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for having a brain that can compartmentalize, because

1430
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: I know people swear they don't have those anymore. But

1431
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 1: I do, like I can absolutely be like, no, this

1432
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: I like this movie. This person is probably a bad person, yes,

1433
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: and not take it in and be like and I'm

1434
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: supporting them be a bad person. I'm like, No, Can

1435
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: was a great character. Jonathan Major's possibly being an abusive

1436
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: person is not the thing that I can fix, right, And.

1437
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: I understand everybody is different, but I'm gonna tell you

1438
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: right now, I'm not giving up everything because there's a

1439
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 2: lot of eight shit people out there. So I'm not

1440
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 2: gonna be like, I guess I won't be going to

1441
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: the movies. I guess I won't be going out to eat.

1442
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: I guess I won't be. No, I can't do that.

1443
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 2: I live in a functioning society. There's gonna be shit

1444
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: that I buy from races, homophobic because and all these

1445
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: other people like, because we live in a functioning society,

1446
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: you know, And I know everybody's levels on these things

1447
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 2: are different than everybody has their bars. And I understand

1448
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: people go, well, I'm not supporting this and supporting that,

1449
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: that's cool, But I personally realize that I function in

1450
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,799
Speaker 2: a society and my money is going to go places

1451
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: that I don't want it to go, and I have

1452
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: to feel comfortable with that, Like I just have to.

1453
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: The poll, well, actually you know it for this one. Yeah, yeah,

1454
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: let's see.

1455
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 6: The poll was, Uh, why am I a blank on

1456
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 6: the fucking pole?

1457
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh? There it is, Okay. Did Charlie kurs death make

1458
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: you sad? Ninety seven percent of our audience says no,

1459
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: three percent says yes. And I don't think there's a

1460
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: wrong answer here, honestly, don't. I think I think it

1461
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: is sad and I think also, I I know people

1462
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: are going to go in on people like Jamie Lee

1463
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 1: Curtis for crying and all this type of shit. I truly,

1464
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: I think that's just us trying to be like conservatives. Yes,

1465
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,839
Speaker 1: I think seeing someone get murdered, regardless of their beliefs

1466
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: cann't make you feel sad. I don't necessarily think you

1467
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: need to perform for me. I don't need to always

1468
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: be on task. And also, my emotions aren't like slaves

1469
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: to my will all the time, like I can rationalize something.

1470
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: But when I like, someone tagged our Twitter account to

1471
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: that shooting, so I did not know or think I

1472
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: would see that video. I was just doing my job

1473
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: of like, let me peruse our mentions, and it was

1474
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: like something something guessed the ray. So I clicked on

1475
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: it and it was Charlie Kirk. Literally within seconds a

1476
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: bullet going. It took my brain a second to see

1477
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: to even understand what I just had witnessed, and I

1478
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, I think I'll just watch someone die.

1479
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: Right, And that's not normal. We have normalized that shit.

1480
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: It's not normal to watch people die on video.

1481
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: So I'm not here to judge the Yeah, I did

1482
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: feel a little bit sad or it did make me

1483
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: cry a bit. Yeah, And whether you agree with them

1484
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: or not, this is definitely an inflection point another in

1485
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: a long line of political violence. I think it's kind

1486
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: of sad because in that way, those people who said

1487
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: Obama had fake tears, they kind of won. And that

1488
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: way they did win because they normalized all of us

1489
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: going we feel nothing. I am numb and I do

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Speaker 1: feel numb a lot of the time. That was just

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Speaker 1: one of the ones that I went, oh, but in general,

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01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm so numb to violence at this point because we've

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01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: been watching violence a long time. And you know, it's

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01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: January sixth, It's Josh Shapiro's house being put on fire,

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01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: it's Nancy Pelosi's husband being beaging with a hammer, it's

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01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: the politicians in Minnesota. Is Donald Trump being attempted assassination

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01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: on him?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And now Charlie Kirks the latest one, and we know

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Speaker 1: there'll be more. All right, time for another one of these.

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01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: Break's been along. We talked a very long time this episode, but.

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01:21:36,400 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 5: We'll be we'll be back. So yeah, there we go.

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01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: And like I said, not judging anybody's reaction, I really

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01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: does no right way to fill on some tragic shit

1505
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: or just some shit like that. It's so crazy where

1506
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: we're living. Whatever's making helping you get to the next day.

1507
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: So what we got the next episode is a given

1508
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: Heart project. We had Glenise and Kevin Ugh. Karen's cousin

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01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: Glanise Apia said, it's great to hear from people care

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: and actively help others. It's sad that Christians in America

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01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 1: are often so Unchristian. I used to be a Catholic,

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01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: now don't follow an organized religion. I still think many

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01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: of the Christian values are good, but people don't really

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01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: follow them even if they claim to follow the religion. Otherwise,

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01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: how could you support deportations of other similarly hateful stuff. Yeah,

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01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: and it's such a catch twenty two being from the South,

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01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: especially being a black person, because like there's a relationship

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01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: with church that those white people will never understand it

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01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: for black Southerners because the church in uh It's foundation

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01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: was obviously this white man's religious, that religion that was

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01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: handed to keep us docile and all this stuff, but

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01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: it also was the one time of the week where

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01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: they weren't watching black people, and so the church ended

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01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 1: up becoming like not just a symbol, but an actual

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01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: tool of organization and resistance against slavery and oppression. Right,

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01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 1: And so there's a radical part of the Black church

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01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: that does not exist in the white church. That people

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01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: have to live those raps and those values, and they

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01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: help people on the underground railroad, and they helped organize things.

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01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King was a preacher. Jesse Jackson was a preacher.

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01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: Al Sharpton was a preacher. Even to this day, that's

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01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: still a Lexi Cornell West, Michael Eric Dyson. These are

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01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: preachers like our religion not the same as their religion.

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01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that on some like because everything's

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01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: so racist. I just think that's the fact, actual thing.

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: You just don't know the history of the churches. So

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01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: all that to say, like a black person being a

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: church person to me is not always a red flag. Now,

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01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: there are still conservative values and conservative leaning things that

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01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: happen within black churches. That what's the problems One of

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01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: the reasons I don't go. But I've seen a lot

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01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: of people that were progressive and helpful use the Black

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: church to organize or use the values that they learned

1544
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: from church to help people and so it is this

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01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: conflicting thing of like, uh. While I think the end

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01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: mass white Christian nationalism has really hurt America, I think

1547
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: Reverend William Barber is probably one of our foremost courageous, righteous,

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01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: moral people that we have in existence in America.

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01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: Rally and their asses.

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01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 1: So I don't you know. So I don't know, Sean says,

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: handles looks delicious. I mean not, it's delicious Osins and

1552
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: Chippewa far Wisconsin. But next time in Charlotte, I may

1553
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: try them out. Wait, no licorice? How can they not

1554
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: have liquorice ice cream? I don't know. I've never had that.

1555
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 1: Can't speak to whether it's good or that, Sean says.

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01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: Love the conversation. This episode had great pacing and flow.

1557
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: Not to mention interesting, gas Ke up for her work

1558
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: even he says, these guys sound like truly wonderful people.

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01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: In this episode also highlighted what we already knew that

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01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: Karen is a wonderful person. I love how highly her

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01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: cousin spoke of her. Karen, you inspired your cousin, and

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01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 1: now she's helping so many people. Oh and then on

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01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: YouTube for this one, we got eleven comments let's see

1564
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 1: dark damnja weak emoji's Ria says, excellent shaw. I love

1565
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: that what the fam is doing to serve the community.

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01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: I was not the least bit surprised hearing how Karen

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01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: came alongside her cousin. This is another example of how

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: something small has a big impact on someone's life. Thank you,

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01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: Karen for being everything that you are. CPJ Morgan says,

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01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: it was such a pleasure to hear from your fam

1571
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 1: doing such amazing work for the community and sharing their stories.

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01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: I work at healthcare philanthropy and it's remains very white

1573
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: and conservative, especially the board, so I love seeing us

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01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: helping us with integrity and true compassion. Just thank you.

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01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,839
Speaker 1: But I think is so interesting is that their charity

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01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: is just about helping everybody. Yes, but at the same

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01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: time as Charlotte and a lot and we already know

1578
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: the statistics and disproportionately affected community. So you end up

1579
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: helping us disproportionately because we're disproportionately in the people that

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01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: need help, but helping us everybody. It is so interesting

1581
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: how you know that's that it's helped them to not

1582
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: explicitly be about that provocative af says up Riding Karen,

1583
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: this shell tech to my heartstrings. Is very enlightened and

1584
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 1: made me want to take my five oh one seat

1585
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: to the next level. It's a family affair. Shouts to

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01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: your folks, Karen, They're very impacted empathy, empathetic and selfless.

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01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: Bruh A Brief says, really enjoy the guest you had recently.

1588
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: Thank you. I know it's been a little more positive

1589
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: leaning with some of these guests we've had. It's not

1590
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: on person, it's not like mental health September.

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01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Everything just feel like that right.

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01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Ramsey pah Done says five stars for doing what you

1593
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: do do best authentically. Thank you. Nine East ninety nine Street.

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01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: This is a Bomfuers and homey residence reference. Man. I've

1595
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: been listening'll on Spotify for a few weeks then I

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01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: heard Ryder. Karen says something that prompted me to check

1597
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: the YouTube and yes, I am here now subscribed and

1598
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: wrecked to go all right, hit us with that hype button.

1599
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: Kim Docs says, so amazing to hear about the work

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01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: they're doing and the passion behind it. It makes a

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01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: world of difference. Even when you feel like you're losing

1602
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: strength and hope is in the vision. You're so needed.

1603
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: I know in my work all the word goes out

1604
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: the window when we are teaching kids about STEM. All

1605
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: the planning and hours of preparation is worth the one

1606
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: hour fun you bring to their lives. Blessing to y'all.

1607
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,799
Speaker 1: Keep going. Yeah, and I love her Kim docs videos

1608
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: on social media where she posts her and the little

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01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: kids learning science so always. Daniel says, great guess, great show, guys,

1610
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: thank you, t tkj One says, thank you for another

1611
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: great show. I love the vibe between you and your guest.

1612
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: And lastly, Jason says, I won't when the when the

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01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: first when the episode first started? Oh, I guess, I

1614
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: don't know if it's when the episode first started. For

1615
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: a second, I thought y'all had hired some stand ins

1616
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: for the show. Yeah, because I had to split the screen.

1617
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: The show mostly them, and that's on the side because

1618
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: they were together, and it was the only way to

1619
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: get the camera to show oh.

1620
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: So and the thing. It didn't split us up. It

1621
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: just basically had us off on the other side when

1622
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: it rolled over something.

1623
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of has to, Okay, it's the only

1624
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: way to get them both in frank, right, because they was.

1625
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 2: On the main screen and so so you and YouTube.

1626
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 2: It just sounded like we were just talking like like

1627
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: off on the side somewhere. Yeah, that's okay.

1628
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I just sort of ended up looking like me and

1629
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: you to the left and then them.

1630
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 5: Together on the right.

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01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you, now, I'm with you.

1632
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: But so he's like, did y'all hire new Roding Karen?

1633
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: That would be funny if like that's how y'all found

1634
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: out we got rich and quit the show, that we

1635
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: hit the lottery and hired two actors to beat us,

1636
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: because like y'all do the scramp close enough? All right,

1637
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: So don't say nothing too glowing about Republicans. Try to

1638
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: keep it light on the Democrats, okay, because the country

1639
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: is going to head and then throwing a little racist

1640
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: when it's the highlights. But great show. It's amazing how

1641
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: at the time, when it would be so much easier

1642
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: for people to go doll, those two are out here

1643
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: trying to do for the community. Yeah, that Gender Wars

1644
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: was not much of a war. That woman had Nomo

1645
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 1: the title alone was going to be an l for her.

1646
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: A single mother with bad kids was only once ever

1647
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: embraced by the public. And that was in the nineties,

1648
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: classic baby kids, and I would even say they weren't

1649
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: really embraced by the public. That was us embracing Robin

1650
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: Harrison to deal with them badass kids. Let's see the Paul,

1651
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: have you given any money to charity to a charitable

1652
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: org this year? Yes?

1653
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Or no?

1654
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: Sixty seven percent? Yes, me included thirty percent. Now yeah, well, also,

1655
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: it's about that time, right, I feel like now is

1656
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: when we start going outside and it's like what girls

1657
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: scout cookies or that it is about to see that

1658
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: salvation army bell. And I feel I would not I

1659
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't count it against you if you decided to count it,

1660
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: but also like I kind of don't count When they

1661
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: be like you, would you like to round up for

1662
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: the kids, I'm like, no, No, it's not the same.

1663
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 2: No, it's not y'all get it right off, y'all not.

1664
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: Getting that y'all not getting that same energy, all right,

1665
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Because we didn't have any breaks before for a hour

1666
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: and some change. Here's another one of these breaks so

1667
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: we could put another ad in.

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01:30:38,360 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: She was talking, oh.

1669
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 1: All right. Through the thirty one to fifty nine driving party,

1670
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: we had d on from the Bad and Boozy podcast

1671
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 1: and of course of the Marrying House. We had four comments.

1672
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: Appia says, I am in the age where I could

1673
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 1: very well be premenopausal. In contrast to no one talking

1674
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: about it. I have a feeling that I'm faced with

1675
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 1: it everywhere. The as I get want me to be

1676
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: in it. But I really don't feel no new symptoms yet.

1677
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Mood swings, of course, only the ones I always had,

1678
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: and that you can blame on puberty being a woman

1679
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: in this world, here's pregnancy postpart on. The swings and

1680
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: me are old friends. Otherwise, I haven't noticed anything yet,

1681
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: but when I look up what could be a sign,

1682
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: it's practically everything. Just existing in breathing while being a

1683
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: woman at after forty is enough? Do you eat a lot?

1684
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: Mental pause? Do you very little? Mental pause? And so on.

1685
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: As my mother about menopausea, she said she had one

1686
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: about one half flash in her fifties and then the

1687
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: period just stopped the end. So I hope for those genes. Yeah,

1688
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are, and I do

1689
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 1: know in America we live in a medicine like a

1690
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical economy, meaning that they sell us our medicine. There's

1691
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,600
Speaker 1: commercials for our medicine. So yeah, I can imagine. I

1692
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like in Germany, but I can

1693
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: imagine that the algorithms and the social media is and

1694
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: your phone and everything. They know you're of a certain age,

1695
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: and they know you're a woman, and so you probably

1696
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: do get I mean the same way that everything I

1697
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: log onto is like you want to get your dig hard. Yes,

1698
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: it don't matter what it is. It don't matter what

1699
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: it is, like, hey, hey arectidysfunction? You want to dig hard?

1700
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: Is how you dick doing? You want some dick? You

1701
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: need to dick get hard right now. I'm like, I'm

1702
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: just trying to shop for clothes. Well, I do you

1703
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: want you dick haard on them closed? You don't want

1704
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 1: them gens just laying down flat. You want them genes

1705
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 1: to dick up like a let people know what you're

1706
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 1: working with. I'm like, oh my god. Colin J. Says,

1707
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: I said, I'm sad no one took the opportunity to

1708
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 1: call Casper Caucasian in this first guest the race Eve.

1709
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 1: He says, being pre min apausal is no joke. I'm

1710
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: someone who is usually always cold but these hot flashes

1711
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 1: make me want to take a cold shower. One minute

1712
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm under a blanket, the next I'm pulling out my

1713
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: face fan. But on the upside, no period, So I

1714
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: guess a win is a win. Good for Queen Lativa

1715
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: speaking out on issues for US middle aged ladies.

1716
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the thing about pre minopausal because they

1717
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: don't really study it like they should. Everybody is different,

1718
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: like literally everybody is different, like they have signs and

1719
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 2: things like that. And I also think when it comes

1720
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: to this, it can last, particularly pre menopausal can last

1721
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 2: up to ten years and sometimes even longer than that,

1722
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 2: do you know, depending on who you are and how

1723
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 2: your body adjusted to these changes. And also my personal

1724
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 2: opinion for some people they are actually going through premenopause,

1725
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 2: maybe in menopause, and some women are just in denial

1726
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: or people that are going through this process are just

1727
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 2: in the now. Because if you admit that you're having this,

1728
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 2: you also admit that you're aging. And you know, we

1729
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 2: are anti aging society. So if you admit, hey, there's

1730
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 2: something wrong, I'm losing hair and it's not alopecia, you

1731
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, Hey, you know all of

1732
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, I put clothes on and my skin is

1733
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 2: it you? And I don't know why, like all of

1734
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 2: a sudden, You know, these small things that we just

1735
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: think quote unquote goes on with aging and because when

1736
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: they run out a test, they gonna look at you

1737
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 2: and be like, you're fine. The test doesn't say nothing's wrong,

1738
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: but it does not mean that you're not going through

1739
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: the process.

1740
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I got to read a book,

1741
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: Gotta consult with your doctors, Gotta something. I don't know.

1742
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: You know, everything is so foreign to me because I'm

1743
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: a man of privilege and it's not something that happens

1744
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: to my body that I don't feel comfortable giving any

1745
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: level of like this is what is happening to people.

1746
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure some people that's happening to And I also

1747
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: don't know what you do if you truly are like

1748
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm not experiencing these things and people are like, yes

1749
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: you are. No, you just didn't denial you do you

1750
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: going through it? I don't know. Everybody's body is different

1751
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: in the grade. Yeah, I wish everybody comfort.

1752
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 5: Let's see.

1753
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: Evie says. Another thing I think it's worth mentioning is

1754
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 1: the forgetfulness. The other day, I spent five minutes looking

1755
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: for my phone, only realized I was talking to my

1756
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: girlfriend on the phone the whole time. Hilarious. Yeah, let's

1757
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 1: see comments on YouTube. Nasty Knack says, this must be

1758
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: Lisa from TAMCCLA from Saturday Night Live, cook My Meat,

1759
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: and it's at the fifty six minute thirty three second mark.

1760
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what we was talking about at fifty six.

1761
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: It must have been a guest story. So no, it

1762
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: couldn't have been a guest stories. Oh it was the

1763
01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: It was the lady with the gender war where she

1764
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: said she ate me off the table, the state straight

1765
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: off the table. Rath says, had to come to the

1766
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: tube to so I can hype this video. Consider me

1767
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: a black eye to the blackout tips Nation hype g now,

1768
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 1: great show is always thank you for the hype.

1769
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 2: Thank you now says I know what the hype is.

1770
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 1: Ramsey says, this brings me joy, love y'all. Thank you.

1771
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 3: Ms.

1772
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Rohl says this gender wars lady and Kwan Mills, author

1773
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: of the Ho Gouy Roaches and passes Et Porssy two

1774
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: would have a time. She's a yeah, she's out here.

1775
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Damien says, another great show and another great guest, and

1776
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: Jason says, great show. Y'all did is a boss? CFO

1777
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: always seems like the hardest out of all the c

1778
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 1: sweet jobs numbers make your boy nervous to be a CEO.

1779
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: All you need is a suit. The guest the race.

1780
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: You don't even need a suit now, the guest the

1781
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 1: race about the dude who killed his roommate over the

1782
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: remote was wild, But I guess like the remote is

1783
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: one of those more likely household appliance that could lead

1784
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: to homicide. It's right up there the thermostat in the PlayStation. Definitely. Yeah,

1785
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: It's definitely this top five and it ain't number five. Yeah,

1786
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 1: because the remote thing, the remoter make you want to

1787
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: kill somebody when it's nobody foult with yours right good.

1788
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: You're like, the fuck is this goddamn remote?

1789
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: Like when you lose the remote?

1790
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: Man?

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01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 1: I remember one time I lost the remote for like

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01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: five minutes in my house and I was already on

1793
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Amazon looking up remote replacements because I was like, I

1794
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: don't know where the fuck is that fucking I'll find

1795
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: it one day and when I don't need it, you know,

1796
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: it'll make it pop up. When the new remote get here,

1797
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: you all out of the ceiling onto my face and

1798
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: be like, why did it get up there?

1799
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

1800
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: The only people who got sprayed with the bugs pray

1801
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: probably got off light.

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01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 7: I know.

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01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: Whenever I grabbed the bugs forray, I'm empty in the clip.

1804
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

1805
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: We didn't see exactly how much he gave them, but

1806
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 1: I'll imagine any out of bugspray sucks. Yeah, that's I mean,

1807
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: that's a petty, petty, thoughtful crime. Like I might keep

1808
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 1: some bugs praying my car now, just in case niggas

1809
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: want to act up.

1810
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 2: They wouldn't maze. No, I didn't make.

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01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Some people are gonna accuse me of being colorists. I'm like, no,

1812
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it because they brown skin. I'm calling

1813
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: them roaches because I'm using bug spray. Stop trying to

1814
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: make everything twitter the part do you like your steak

1815
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: well done now shooting rubber?

1816
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 6: Yes?

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01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 2: No?

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01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Or I don't eat steak. Seventeen percent of y'all do

1819
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: not eat steak. Shout out to y'all, y'all. I definitely

1820
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: wanted to make that part of the category because much

1821
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: like people that don't eat pork, yell love to tell us,

1822
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: yell love it, you love to eat. You love to

1823
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,679
Speaker 1: tell us you don't eat pork more than you love pork.

1824
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: That's what I think. But yeah, uh no, seventy eight

1825
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: percent do not like their steak well done, and six

1826
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: percent do like they steak well done.

1827
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: How about you gotta smother it in sauce.

1828
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: I just like that, y'all weren't ashamed to tell us that,

1829
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: because I think there's a little bit of shame attached

1830
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: to well done steak now, because I feel like social

1831
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: media has judged folks who like the well done steak

1832
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: pretty fucking harshly. So you it's brave of you to

1833
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 1: now tell me you you like your steak well done,

1834
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, everyone knows that's the wrong answer.

1835
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: You enjoy it. I ain't got to eat it, but child,

1836
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm not knowing two minutes a bite.

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01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the last thing because we

1838
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 1: have no emails. We got two voicemails, so let's do

1839
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: voicemails after this break.

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01:39:32,520 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 6: Okay, it's called deep in the font.

1841
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: I like that one. I don't know if I played

1842
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: it before. All right, got two voicemails. The first one

1843
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: is from Dre.

1844
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 3: What's going on Round and Karen's Dray. I'm listening to

1845
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 3: the feedback episode.

1846
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 2: Then.

1847
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 3: Karen was talking about how like you don't need a

1848
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 3: perfect candidate, and I feel that so much. I think

1849
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 3: even Son of a Bitch.

1850
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: I do this every week, guys. This is part of

1851
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: it now. I like to play for only the people

1852
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 1: that can hear in this studio. I like to play

1853
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: the voicemails just from me and Karen to test them first.

1854
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 1: Then after that I play it for y'all. That's exactly.

1855
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 3: I'm listening to the feedback episode. Then Karen was talking

1856
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 3: about how like you don't need a perfect candidate, and

1857
01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 3: I feel that so much. I think him beyond not

1858
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 3: needing a perfect candidate, I think as far as for

1859
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 3: black people who are politically active for real, I don't

1860
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 3: even think it's that we don't need a perfect candidate.

1861
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 3: It's that we know that that's not how politics works

1862
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 3: in the sense that we're never gonna get what's our

1863
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 3: idea of a perfect candidate. It's not that Joe Biden

1864
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 3: was my perfect idea of a candidate. It's not like

1865
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily like Kambelo was my perfect idea of

1866
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 3: a candidate. Though I thought she was a great candidate,

1867
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 3: think ahead of time, I'm saying it wasn't. I didn't

1868
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 3: have the vision, I didn't see it ahead of time.

1869
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 3: In practice, I was actually highly impressed. Anyway. The point is,

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01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take whatever the fuck the Democrats put up

1871
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 3: because it's gotten so bad that that's really the only.

1872
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 4: Option right now.

1873
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 3: And I think that's what causes the like such a

1874
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 3: strong divide, especially when it comes to Black people between

1875
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 3: voters and voters, where it's almost like, as politically active

1876
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 3: black people, we have like it's not the same. It's

1877
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 3: not the word, it's not like, but it's like it's

1878
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 3: an utter frustration because you are actually working in opposition

1879
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 3: to both your and my success right now because you've

1880
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 3: bought the bill of goods that it's all really the

1881
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 3: same and it doesn't really matter because there's a group

1882
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 3: of people telling you it doesn't matter because it doesn't

1883
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 3: matter that much to them, but to us, it matters

1884
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 3: a lot. And the more marginalizing community is it's like

1885
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 3: the more the margins hurts you. I don't think people

1886
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 3: don't realize it is the margins. It maybe they're not.

1887
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 3: They are world's apart, but maybe in what they're able

1888
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 3: to get accomplished, it's not worlds apart even though it is.

1889
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 3: But for the argument, we'll say it's not. We're all

1890
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 3: so far at the margins that even changing things a

1891
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 3: little bit hurts us so much. But anyway, that's all.

1892
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 6: Love you guys to buddy, thank you.

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01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: The one thing I would even add to that is

1894
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:14,799
Speaker 1: because I absolutely agree.

1895
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 4: Like I.

1896
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 1: Had a thing that happened on Twitter this week and

1897
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: where I was like, that's something terrible that Trump did

1898
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: or something, and I was like, man, we really got

1899
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: to get to a point where the first reflex to

1900
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: a Republican with a Republican controlled Congress and Senate doing

1901
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: something horrible isn't something something Democrats that that gets on

1902
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 1: my nerves. I think it was a pretty simple, pretty

1903
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: simple statement. Don't think what I said was controversial or

1904
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: very inflammatory, but I was like, you know, we have

1905
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: to get to a point where the reflex isn't somehow

1906
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 1: this is the Democrats fault and it's well, what are

1907
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:07,560
Speaker 1: we gonna do to solve it? Me? And you like,

1908
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? Like, what are what's what's

1909
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: the solution gonna be because being able to blame somebody.

1910
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Speaker 1: It's it's it's for those of us who play organized sports,

1911
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: and I mine is basketball. The worst You know what,

1912
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: the worst teammate is. The worst teammate is not the

1913
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 1: guy who misses the last shot. It's not the guy

1914
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: that makes the turnover past but and you lose the

1915
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: game or misses his defensive assignment or whatever. We all

1916
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 1: do that. Everybody who's played basketball knows it is impossible

1917
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Speaker 1: to play perfect all the time and occasionally missed the shot.

1918
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 1: You you know, you you fuck up the past right now.

1919
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Speaker 1: The worst guy, to me, the guy that just doesn't

1920
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: take any fucking responsibilit does not believe in the concept

1921
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 1: that we're all in here for ourselves and we're all

1922
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Speaker 1: playing for each other. That's the guy that's the worst teammate.

1923
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: He's the guy on the sideline that after you lose,

1924
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 1: he's just bitching and complaining about everything everyone else did wrong.

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Speaker 2: Right.

1926
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: He's the guy that when you even sign up together,

1927
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 1: he's already acting like we're all gonna lose. And that

1928
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,440
Speaker 1: is one of our that's a portion of our teammates

1929
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: online when it comes to this stuff, but what happened

1930
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 1: to me was when I tweeted that some black avatar guy,

1931
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was black for real and

1932
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: know if he's a bot. I don't know if these

1933
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: people are real social media. I typically don't even really

1934
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 1: go back and forth with people because I don't even

1935
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 1: know if you're a person, and so I did not

1936
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: go back and forth with this person. I think it's

1937
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 1: important to say here because I want people to understand

1938
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be consistent about that this was not

1939
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: an exchange of ideas that we had. I truly just

1940
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: saw what they said to me and blocked them and

1941
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: moved on with my life. But it was some guy

1942
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 1: who goes, I'm from Britain and I followed you for years.

1943
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Where are you gonna wake up and stop going easy

1944
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: on these or stop defending these democrats? They didn't do

1945
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 1: enough for Gayza and this is their fault, and da

1946
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 1: da da da, and I just didn't even I just

1947
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: blocked them because in addition to you not living here,

1948
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: if you're a person, if you're real, in addition to

1949
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 1: your black ass not being from here, meaning you, this

1950
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: is this is all theory for you, right, You don't

1951
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: have to live with the realities of what a Democrat

1952
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 1: loss means to me and my peoples in the world.

1953
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: You just living in a theory of like that'll show them.

1954
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 1: But I also know that these folks that would live

1955
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 1: under a Trump regime are not brave people.

1956
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 2: You know they're not.

1957
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: They're not gonna fight back the thing that you said

1958
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. The Democrats will learn the lesson, and

1959
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna end up with some super progressive bounce back.

1960
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that have happened the first time Trump was elected?

1961
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: Why would it take to Trump elections? If they were

1962
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: built like that, we would have been built like that.

1963
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 1: Joe Biden wouldn't have been the president after Trump. If

1964
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:13,799
Speaker 1: we were built for some we need a radical change.

1965
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 1: That is not this country. There's nothing in the history

1966
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: of this country that shows that we are that type

1967
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 1: of country. But mostly I'm not just going back and

1968
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: forth with you in theory about my the worth of

1969
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: my life and all the people that I care about

1970
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: in this country because because you just want to get

1971
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: some political points off and say you went back and

1972
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 1: forth on Twitter with some guy that you been following

1973
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 1: for years that don't follow you back because they don't

1974
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: know who you are and don't really necessarily have to

1975
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 1: have much stake or value in what you think about them.

1976
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, it just as you said, it's frustrating because

1977
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 1: they're not to be swayed. I don't know, go back

1978
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: and forth with people, even when they are real people

1979
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time, because they have access to all

1980
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 1: the information I have access to. Yes, they do, so

1981
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe that they are mistaken. And that's the

1982
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:15,799
Speaker 1: hard part right now, is to walk with that knowledge

1983
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: and not have contempt for people, even people that are

1984
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: just one degree away from me. So I don't like

1985
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: talking about it because I don't. I'm too angry and

1986
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm too rigid. My job is not the bridge of

1987
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 1: the vibe. My job is not to make us compromise

1988
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: and bring everyone back to the table. There's leaders who

1989
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: do that, you know they. But it could be Gavin Newsome,

1990
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: it could be Kamla Harris, it could be someone whose

1991
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: name I don't even know yet that's gonna try to

1992
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 1: attempt to bring us all back to the table and

1993
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: get us to work together. But that is not my

1994
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: job or my role. I'm just gonna tell you how

1995
01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I feel. And I feel so rigid right now that

1996
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: there's an anger towards people who are just one degree

1997
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: off of me. That's not that's not good. I should

1998
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: be more, a little more something. I recognize that, but

1999
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I can't be. I literally can't be. People be saying

2000
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: shit that's like one cent they could say ninety nine

2001
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 1: centens I agree with they say one sentence, I'm like,

2002
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 1: what a fuck they make you at That's where that's

2003
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: not rational or reasonable for me. So yeah, in this

2004
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 1: with this case where you're like, man, black people kind

2005
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: of understand and accept this, some of us do. But

2006
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: even when it's another black person and they say something

2007
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 1: I find to be just like what fucking country you

2008
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: think we live in? I have to turn it off.

2009
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't even really talk to

2010
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: my friends about politics sometimes because I'm just like, like,

2011
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: there's certain things people say and that they're givings and

2012
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: their platitudes and their their standards that people believe, and

2013
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 1: I just don't believe them anymore.

2014
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knowso I think that that same as you

2015
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 2: we said this before. I'm very mad, I'm very angry,

2016
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm very upset, I'm very hurt. I'm very sad, mad, depressed,

2017
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:11,560
Speaker 2: all bought up in one and so a lot of

2018
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 2: times when we talk about these things, I'm a person

2019
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 2: and I'm very sensitive, and so when you start tapping

2020
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:20,839
Speaker 2: on tapping at those things, You're gonna make me spew

2021
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 2: these things that I'm feeling. Because everybody is under the

2022
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 2: illusion that they are the only person mad and you're not.

2023
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 2: There are other people that are mad, and guess what,

2024
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 2: they are madder than you. And I'm happy to be

2025
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 2: one of those people. And so for me, no, I

2026
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 2: don't won't talk about it. No, I don't want to

2027
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,640
Speaker 2: hear both sides. No, I don't want to hear. No,

2028
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 2: it's because you're going through the process that I've already

2029
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 2: gone through and I've lost my trust and my faith

2030
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: in a lot of the systems and all that stuff.

2031
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 2: So for me, I don't have I don't have this

2032
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 2: conflicting thing. I don't have this back and forth. Like

2033
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 2: for me, I've nipped that in the butt and cut

2034
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 2: that off and said it is what it is. And

2035
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to myself and I'm not going

2036
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 2: to deny myself the reality that I see, you know,

2037
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 2: And so for me, I'm like, there's no talking down,

2038
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 2: there's no compromising, there's no backing up. I'm not giving

2039
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 2: you a goddamn mench because you have showed me if

2040
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 2: I give you an inch and take a mile like

2041
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 2: like like you know. And the thing is, I don't

2042
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 2: know all of history, but I know enough history and

2043
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 2: I've seen the tactics before. There are books out there

2044
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: that tells you strategically what they're doing, and if you

2045
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 2: are aware and alert, you will go ain't no motherfucking wiyh.

2046
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 1: Not on my watch.

2047
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,759
Speaker 2: You would not be hemming, you would not be hoeing,

2048
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 2: you would not be going back and fuck, You'll be

2049
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 2: absolute and resolute and how you felt. And I'm to

2050
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 2: that point right now. And when you feel like that,

2051
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 2: you not try funny. You don't want to hear other

2052
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 2: people's opinion.

2053
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 1: And then there's a couple more things too, like I

2054
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: recognize I'm not the problem, right, You just want to

2055
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: argue with me because it's something to distract you. I'm

2056
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: not real to you. I'm not you're not recognizing my

2057
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 1: my realness meaning I can't do but so much. My

2058
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 1: Twitter account, my podcast, if it was as effective as

2059
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 1: you deem it to be. Then the world would have

2060
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: listened to us and com lash be president and we

2061
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: be arguing about whether or not she's good enough on gaza.

2062
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 1: On gaza and whether she's good enough on poverty, and

2063
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 1: whether she's good enough on the economy. We wouldn't be

2064
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 1: arguing what we're arguing now. And so I'm not in

2065
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: it for the argument. I'm not in it for the

2066
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 1: content of it. I'm a person. I'm just giving my opinion,

2067
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: but I'm not This is not We're not equals. We're

2068
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: not going back and forth. It's not a game. To

2069
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 1: me and for me these folks, it is a game

2070
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 1: because you're you think that this to you, this is

2071
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 1: like arguing is Michael Jordan better than Lebron with some

2072
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 1: American And to me it's much more serious than that,

2073
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 1: and nothing you can bring up as these rhetorical points

2074
01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna sway me, mostly because everything thing that you're

2075
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 1: saying is something that I was on the side of.

2076
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 1: Meaning if you're going, well, I wanted the best for God,

2077
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: and no, I think I wanted the best. I think

2078
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: I wanted more than you did. Because what you're doing

2079
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 1: right now where we're all sitting here watching these people

2080
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 1: be eradicated, and there's literally you're they're still running up

2081
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: on democratic people that don't even have the funck because

2082
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: they're afraid of the Republicans who have the power. This

2083
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: is what I thought would come to pass is what

2084
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 1: is coming to pass. And I don't see anyone going

2085
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: back and going shit, I should have listened. You guys

2086
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: are right. They're sending Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio over

2087
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 1: there to oversee the genocide that is much worse. No

2088
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 1: one wants to admit what this is worse. So therefore

2089
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:46,680
Speaker 1: we can't even have a discussion about what would be

2090
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 1: better as a solution. And then I could That's one example.

2091
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 1: I could go through every example. So whatever you want

2092
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:58,600
Speaker 1: to talk about poverty, immigration, I can always point to

2093
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: what I wanted. It was better than what the result

2094
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 1: that we got. And I don't think politicians learned the

2095
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: way that you think they learned. Where they go, we lost,

2096
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 1: let's double down on radicalism. I think they go, we lost, Well,

2097
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: what did the people who beat us deal? Or they

2098
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 1: were way more conservative? I guess we should be more conservative.

2099
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 1: That's what they learned. Typically, So yeah, at any rate,

2100
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go back and forth with people like

2101
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 1: that because you listen to me, I don't listen to

2102
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 1: you like that. That's just the rules. It's not trying

2103
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: to be like a dick about it, but like, this

2104
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: is not an exchange of ideas, and more than likely

2105
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: they don't even listen to our podcast. It's just a

2106
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 1: guy who reads my tweets and I guess doesn't like them.

2107
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: And I alleviate you of not liking those tweets. You

2108
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 1: are now free to go being someone else's mentioned arguing

2109
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 1: about a country you don't live in, and what this

2110
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 1: black person who does live here and has had to

2111
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: deal with these folks who are in charge on a

2112
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: daily basis and the information that comes. You know, it's

2113
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 1: like what I told Apia when she was, you know,

2114
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: talking about stuff, and I'm like, yeah, but in Germany,

2115
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, and it's just difficult for people

2116
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: to accept. But I know my experiences, but I don't

2117
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 1: know that they apply to your experiences. I don't know.

2118
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 1: It's like being a woman, you know, I don't like

2119
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: I can have empathy, I can have theories, but I

2120
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 1: don't want to insult you with my theories because you

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Speaker 1: probably thought of every fucking possible thing I could think of.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, you live this, So

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Speaker 1: if I come over and go, what did you think

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Speaker 1: about it? Like you fucking dummy? Of course I thought

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Speaker 1: about that. You know, I thought about that when I

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Speaker 1: was twelve. So you know, when someone anyway, it's all

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Speaker 1: content and entertainment online for people. So to me, I'm

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Speaker 1: just to this guy, We're just a guy, a passing distraction,

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Speaker 1: and he's already stopped living and thinking about us. The

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Speaker 1: second after I don't respond to him, he's already somewhere

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Speaker 1: going who's the next black person I can argue with

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Speaker 1: on Twitter?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: And so for me, I'm like, it's not worth my

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Speaker 2: time and my biggest thing, I'm not going to argue

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Speaker 2: about my humanity period. I've given that up. I have

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Speaker 2: the right to be here just like everybody else, and

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Speaker 2: so when it comes to my humanity, I will fight

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Speaker 2: for my humanity. I will fight for your humanity. But

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Speaker 2: what I'm not gonna do is argue against somebody who

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Speaker 2: doesn't care about my humanity.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, if you could accomplish what you wanted to accomplish,

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Speaker 1: I would support it agreed. That's where everybody always gets

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Speaker 1: this fucked up. And that's why I don't see the

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Speaker 1: value and arguing with me. If you were like, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: we need Democrats who are way more radical. I would

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Speaker 1: vote for way more radical Democrats. So how am I

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Speaker 1: the problem get them in office? I can tell you why.

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Speaker 1: I also would vote for the Democrats we have based

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Speaker 1: on the choices we have. But also, if you like,

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Speaker 1: if you were like, well this mom, Donny Yade, like,

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Speaker 1: let's go with him too, fuck it? What you think

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Speaker 1: I'm the problem? Like, no, you haven't caught up to

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Speaker 1: me yet anyway, last one.

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Speaker 2: About to say, And I also I wanted to comment

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Speaker 2: on the the voicemail when you were talking about me,

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Speaker 2: when the person was talking about me not saying that

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Speaker 2: the candidate doesn't have to be perfect. And the thing

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Speaker 2: is he talking about like the swings, and the thing is,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't take a heavy swing to be devastating. That's

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Speaker 2: what people fail to realize. It doesn't take a heavy

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01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 2: ripple in the water for somebody to be drowned. And

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Speaker 2: people don't understand that you have people that are barely

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Speaker 2: surviving and all it takes is one cut one slice,

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Speaker 2: one thing of them not qualifying, and before you know it,

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Speaker 2: they're in poverty. Before you know it, you know they're

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Speaker 2: living in their cars, you know. And I will still

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Speaker 2: say this, most Americans are under the illusion that they're

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Speaker 2: going to be okay, even a lot of black people.

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Speaker 2: That's why a lot of us say some crazy shit.

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Speaker 2: Don't wine when it's like, nigga, if you you know,

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Speaker 2: if you lost your job for a whole more, you

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Speaker 2: will be out on your ass. You are not above

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Speaker 2: you know, these people online because everybody thinks that they

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Speaker 2: will never be homeless. Everybody thinks that they won't lose

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Speaker 2: their house like And that's the illusion, that American individualized

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Speaker 2: illusion that if something happens to you, it is your

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Speaker 2: fault and it's not the government's responsibility. It's not society.

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Speaker 2: We're not supposed to put in safety nets to help

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Speaker 2: people when things go wrong that are out of the control.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, that goes back to why I

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Speaker 2: don't want to argue and talk to people because at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, I blame the people. And

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Speaker 2: because I blame the people, everybody wants to blame a

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01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 2: lot of these people you talk to, they want to

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Speaker 2: blame everybody but the populace, and I blame the people.

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Speaker 2: So when I'm like, no, bitch, is your fault. You

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Speaker 2: should have voted, you should have did this, you should

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Speaker 2: have did that. I don't want to hear anything else

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Speaker 2: outside of that. We can't talk about certain things because

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Speaker 2: you all I hear from you is excuses why the

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Speaker 2: people didn't do what they wanted to do because guess what,

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Speaker 2: like like Roderick say, if we would have had it

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Speaker 2: Joe way, we wouldn't have been here in the first place.

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Speaker 2: But since we're here and this is the reality that

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Speaker 2: we live in, it's the people's fault. And I don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear anything else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have supported y'all if y'all got the

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Speaker 1: Green Party in a position to win. Y'all didn't agree,

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Speaker 1: you didn't, y'all not doing y'all job, and then you

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Speaker 1: just getting mad that the Democrats aren't just moving out

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Speaker 1: the fucking way. It's it's stupid. But anyway, last voicemail, Karen.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it's me. You mind also down to catch up

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Speaker 4: episode and miss the call about the sea sweet heat Chicken. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm just now getting to the episode and I was like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 4: there's new. I've been in public and I haven't seen it,

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Speaker 4: so maybe public got it first. But what I have

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Speaker 4: had is the peach chicken tinger subs.

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Speaker 1: Oh that sounds I had those peach heat sweet chicken

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Speaker 1: tenders before. They also sell them just like on the

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Speaker 1: where you can just woman back up or whatever. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but you can get them as a sub too. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I tried them before, and uh yeah, they they are good.

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Speaker 1: But because of changes, I'm trying to make them my diet.

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Speaker 1: I was, so I was more excited to see a

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Speaker 1: peach heat peach heat rotisserie chicken than I was the

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Speaker 1: fried chicken tenders because chicken they use the same they

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Speaker 1: I don't get the sub really, but the chicken fried

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Speaker 1: chicken tenders are them. Chickens are the same chickens from churches.

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Speaker 2: The Delicious though them are.

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Speaker 1: Chicken saus chickens. Chickens them is not there's no animal

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Speaker 1: that is that size. That is no, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a velocent raptor anyway.

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Speaker 7: Which is really as well.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed that as I am.

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Speaker 7: I set up episode because I had a volunteer hours

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Speaker 7: to complete for I do the children's confinement sell things

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Speaker 7: so keep the costs of children's clothing down.

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Speaker 4: So you have the volunteer so you can get those peaks.

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Speaker 7: Shopping hours so you can get all the really good stuff.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I have, I had peble ships to do.

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Speaker 7: To volunteer for, and I stacked up episodes so I

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Speaker 7: could just see down and as their at the consignment seal,

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Speaker 7: doing my work and minding my business and laughing and

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Speaker 7: myself I listening to this podcast and it was great,

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Speaker 7: and I'm happy anniversary to some point on that as well.

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Speaker 7: But I hope you guys well, it sounds like you

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Speaker 7: guys had a great time. I did see it all

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Speaker 7: Facebook University again. But also y'all are so great and

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Speaker 7: I love just how young has bloomed and blossomed because

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Speaker 7: before it's like sometimes about you know, her puns and

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Speaker 7: the jokes and getting into.

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Speaker 4: There and speaking up. It's been so fat and I

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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 7: It made emotional last.

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Speaker 4: Week and I was like, why I get so serious,

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02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 4: Like it's so beautiful. You said something that was so funny.

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Speaker 7: It's like I am jiggas niggas.

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Speaker 4: I think that was it, and I just I was

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Speaker 4: like I.

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Speaker 7: Was laughing I'm like, oh, yes, I love hearing, But

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Speaker 7: all right, y'all have a great one.

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Speaker 2: Bye, thank you, thank you, bye bye. That's huh hilarious.

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't admit for those of you that's been

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Speaker 2: listening for a long time, I have really my voice

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Speaker 2: has grown. I have grown. I went from what the

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Speaker 2: fuck is the podcast? Where the rules of regulations kind

2258
02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 2: of owned this. You know, you can get rid of

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02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 2: me at any time. I literally told Roger Dad. I

2260
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 2: was like, well, I'll be a producer, like somebody in

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Speaker 2: the background, Like, ain't I ain't trying to be out

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Speaker 2: there with you, you know, because initially I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: this is your vision and your dream. I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: I was gonna be a part of it. And so

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Speaker 2: now it's our vision and our dream.

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Speaker 1: Now it always was I My dream included you being

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Speaker 1: part of it. So it was never a time where

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Speaker 1: it was considering that you wouldn't be here for me.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, if that's what I have to

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Speaker 1: allow you to believe to keep you coming, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But I think you know, a few three four thousand

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Speaker 1: episodes later, we probably got a pretty good groove going,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, we're always growing every day and changing every

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Speaker 1: day and trying to get better every day. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons that I decided that you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: with obviously with Karen's approven that we weren't ever gonna

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Speaker 1: cover any more of these people that write in about like,

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Speaker 1: you know, how do you talk to each other? How

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Speaker 1: come you did this? Why didn't you say it that way?

2280
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 1: Because it just at the end of the day, we're

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Speaker 1: we're trying as hard as possible to make it good

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02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 1: and work, but we got to be ourselves. And no

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Speaker 1: one's ever had a conversation about Karen speaking up more

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Speaker 1: than me and Karen, period, none of you. There are

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Speaker 1: zero people that can ever write in and be more

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's to that point where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it didn't interrupt.

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Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, you gonna tell me to be more comfortable,

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Speaker 2: cut the.

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Speaker 1: Person off like it's okay with like conversation.

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Speaker 2: His biggest thing was be more aggressive, because you know,

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Speaker 2: because of me and my personality, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: be mean, I don't want to be rude, I don't

2294
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Speaker 2: want to interrupt. I want you to get your complete

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Speaker 2: thune out there. And you know, it's like it's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be a good timing. And I will admit another

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Speaker 2: really really good training ground was being on three Guys

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Speaker 2: on I'm not gonna lie because you know, it's it's

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02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 2: like playing jump rope, you know, you just you just

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02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 2: jump in with you jump in and if you fumble

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Speaker 2: it up, that's okay. The ropes will keep going and

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Speaker 2: you just and well, you know what, you're back on

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Speaker 2: rhythm again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just yeah, And of course you've been

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02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 1: doing great. I think I was saying last week, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the interview stuff. I love how much you bring.

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Speaker 2: In questions, effort more aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, the innertime like putting chiming in

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Speaker 1: with jokes and observation and quips. Even if I don't

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Speaker 1: catch it, we have an audience. The audience is gonna

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Speaker 1: catch it. You know. They might be mad that I'm

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Speaker 1: not catching it, but they also don't know what the

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Speaker 1: fuck my job is, so they don't know what my

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Speaker 1: like the hundred other twelve things on the screen to

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Speaker 1: keep this motherfucker float. But yeah, so uh yeah, of

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Speaker 1: course you're killing it. And uh I always love to

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Speaker 1: see y'all giving her flowers because.

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Speaker 2: My bad puns and stuff earn those flowers.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, thank you for the flowers. Even though

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Speaker 1: y'all didn't give us any five star reviews, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Hopefully next week we won't have to throw

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Speaker 1: in the extra commercial recerd too. And that's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Feedback. We'll talk to you guys throughout

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Speaker 1: the week. I may take my birthday off, which I

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Speaker 1: think is a Tuesday, so I may take Tuesday. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how I feel. But you know, you guys know

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Speaker 1: we'll play it by here and yeah, we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you guys soon. Thank you so much for supporting us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for everybody signed up for the Patreon. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for everybody that goes to the Black Eyed who

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Speaker 1: took slash Premium becomes a premium listener. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: everybody that donates. Like I said, I'm not that was

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Speaker 1: not a cry for help. That's just facts. Like I

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Speaker 1: log in the PayPal it's like revenues down twenty percent

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Speaker 1: this month, and I was like fucking tramp.

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, So for y'all that continue to like help,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're getting something for it, but still

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people asking for money, a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things providing different content, and everybody ain't got

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Speaker 1: the five. So thank y'all, Thank y'all, and shout to

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Speaker 1: everybody that's that's putting in on this.

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Speaker 3: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: Allow us to really be confident, say what we say

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Speaker 1: with our whole chest and never feel bad about it

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Speaker 1: and uh and come back and do it again the

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Speaker 1: next day. All right, y'all, talk to you later until

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Speaker 1: next time. I love you, I love you.