WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Still The One

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The We're still having fun and

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<v Speaker 1>you're still the One addition as I talk to punter

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Hubert as he looks to return for a fourteenth

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<v Speaker 1>season and break the franchise record for most games play.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus we'll hear why new tight end Hayden Hurst is

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to be in Cincinnati. And then something a

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<v Speaker 1>little different with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham as we

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<v Speaker 1>compare our Mount Rushmoores in a wide variety of categories.

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<v Speaker 1>by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>thing since Fenway Park. The Reds opened to two game

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<v Speaker 1>series at Fenway on Tuesday, and seeing the ballpark on

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<v Speaker 1>TV reminded me of why it's one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>places on Earth. You never forget your first time at

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<v Speaker 1>a place like that, right. My first trip to Fenway

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<v Speaker 1>was on a high school band trip when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in ninth grade. Growing up a sports fanatic near Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, I couldn't wait to see the Green Monster

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<v Speaker 1>in person. Our entire high school band was scheduled to

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<v Speaker 1>attend a game against the White Sox on a Friday night. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>it got reined out. I was devastated, but I somehow

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<v Speaker 1>convinced our high school band director, mister Popolardo, to allow

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<v Speaker 1>me and my buddy Matt Moretti to skip the group

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<v Speaker 1>activity on Boston's historic Freedom Trail following day and go

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<v Speaker 1>to Fenway on our own for the makeup double header.

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<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen years old. Parental supervision was apparently a

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<v Speaker 1>little less strict back then. Thus, two ninth graders were

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to leave their group on an out of town

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<v Speaker 1>band trip to attend a Major League baseball game in

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<v Speaker 1>a city they had never been to before. Mister Popolardo

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have been reprimanded for insufficient chaperoning in this

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<v Speaker 1>day and age, but we hopped in a cab and

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<v Speaker 1>headed to Fenway. From what I've read, Roger Clemens and

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<v Speaker 1>I apparently had the same experience when we saw Fenway

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<v Speaker 1>Park for the first time. We both climbed out of

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<v Speaker 1>a taxi in front of a short brick building that

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<v Speaker 1>blended into the surrounding neighborhood and said, where's Fenway Park.

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<v Speaker 1>In my case, the cabby pointed out the light towers

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<v Speaker 1>as proof that he had taken us to the right location.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Fenway dozen of times since and have

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<v Speaker 1>the same sense of awe and wonder every time I

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<v Speaker 1>walk through those gates. I've even had the thrill of

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting games from Fenway Park. The broadcast booth high above

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<v Speaker 1>home plate is not a great place to see the action.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine trying to describe a baseball game from the Space shuttle,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still magical. You have a magnificent view of

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Monster, the sitgo signed, the Pesky Pole, the

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<v Speaker 1>skyline of Boston, and that perfectly manicured grass field. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's a Dan Horde hot take. Fenway Park is easily

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<v Speaker 1>the best ballpark in Major League Baseball, And for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who say, what about Wrigley Field, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>to both and it's not even close. Now let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to football. It's been nearly a month since Kevin Huber

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<v Speaker 1>signed a one year contract extension as he looks to

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<v Speaker 1>extend his career to a fourteenth season. Ken Anderson, Ken Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>and Reggie Williams are the only players to spend at

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<v Speaker 1>least fourteen years in Cincinnati, and in the final game

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<v Speaker 1>of last season, Hubert tied Riley for most regular season

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<v Speaker 1>games played in a Bengals uniform with two hundred seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get to my conversation with Kevin, here's a

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<v Speaker 1>quick warning that there's about a two minute stretch where

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<v Speaker 1>I get some interference on my microphone. It's not terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>You can still hear and understand, Kevin, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to let you know in advance that the noise

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<v Speaker 1>goes away after a couple of questions. Now, let's hear

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<v Speaker 1>from the Cincinnati native who holds the top spot in

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<v Speaker 1>every Bengals career punting category. So I'm watching a replay

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<v Speaker 1>of the Super Bowl the other day and I see

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<v Speaker 1>the opening coin toss, and you're one of the four

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<v Speaker 1>captains out there. I think technically you're the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>deferred after the Rams lost the toss. But what was

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<v Speaker 1>that moment like to be one of those four guys

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<v Speaker 1>standing out there as a Super Bowl is about to

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<v Speaker 1>kick off? And it was pretty special. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at first you kind of, yeah, you figure out who

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<v Speaker 1>who's going out there to do the coin tochs. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a normal game, and it's like you you start

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<v Speaker 1>you know, looking around and um, taking a moment and

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<v Speaker 1>realizing like what you're actually going out there for, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a lot of fun to just to

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<v Speaker 1>be out there with the guys and just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after you know, being here for so long, just to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of that was pretty special. You seem

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<v Speaker 1>to take tremendous pride in the fact that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati guy and you were on a Cincinnati team that

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<v Speaker 1>made it. At least that's the way it felt going

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<v Speaker 1>up to the Super Bowl. Was that the case, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely was. Um, you know, there's definitely a different, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>different perspective. I feel like that I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>have compared to a lot of other guys in my

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<v Speaker 1>team just from being here my entire life, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the ups and downs over the years. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up them to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>To have my entire family here, all my friends here. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was definitely I think, uh, I definitely took a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pride in that, and um it's something I'll

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<v Speaker 1>definitely never forget and uh hopefully I'll get another chance

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Perforehim done. Who is there? What friends and

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<v Speaker 1>family members made the trip? Uh? Shoot, my entire immediate family, um,

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<v Speaker 1>all my siblings, uh, most of the kids, most of

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<v Speaker 1>my my nieces and nephews. Um, my wife was out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I had several several buddies that came out that made

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<v Speaker 1>the trip out. Um. Some flew in and out the

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<v Speaker 1>same day. UM say every just much whatever they could

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<v Speaker 1>to get out there. Um. So I think all told,

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<v Speaker 1>probably you know, probably twenty thirty people, but I at

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<v Speaker 1>least that I knew, and several others that just came

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<v Speaker 1>out just you know, because there's quite a few people

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<v Speaker 1>out there. How long did it hurt? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that we were stopped pritting because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel how close you were, Um, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just something that I think, I think for the

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<v Speaker 1>team gives a tremendous a managements the next season because

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<v Speaker 1>we have somebody guys that are young and they but

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<v Speaker 1>they're hungry and they want that again. They want that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling again. So I think, yeah, it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>always gonna hurt and always gonna be like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what if, But I think it's gonna be a huge

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<v Speaker 1>catalyst for us to, you know, get back through this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a team party after the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>at Pauli Pavilion. I can only imagine how awesome it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been had the outcome been different, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was still very nice a celebration of the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>at one point you and several of your teammates are

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<v Speaker 1>up on the stage with Kid Cutty and it occurred

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<v Speaker 1>to me watching from the audience that you're young. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in football terms, you're referred to as like, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six, he's gonna be thirty seven. In real life,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a young man. Does this game and being around

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<v Speaker 1>these guys keep you feeling young? Absolutely. I think me

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<v Speaker 1>and Clark joked about it last year when when we

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<v Speaker 1>drafted Evan, and it's me and Clark at thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven and Evan at like twenty one. Just getting

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<v Speaker 1>his you know, be able to go by by alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. So yeah, definitely the youth the

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<v Speaker 1>team and the youth of Evan, And it definitely keeps

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<v Speaker 1>you young. It keeps you, um, slightly immature, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, in a good way. Um. You know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think it definitely keeps you going. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got guys that that aren't looking at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of their career, they're looking at the beginning and wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to grow, and you're you're right there with them, just

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<v Speaker 1>helping them along the way. And it's it's definitely a fun,

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<v Speaker 1>fun part of it. We're chatting with Kevin Huber so

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<v Speaker 1>Evan McPherson had these dramatic game winning kicks in the postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two yards at Tennessee, end of the game at

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, and obviously you're the guy holding. How nerve racking?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it for the holder in those situations? Um, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say for a young holder, it's probably more so. But

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I've done it long enough, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had some game winners along the way of my career.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's with being with Clark so long, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely like you know, tiers, shoes. It's it's just something

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't really think about, which in those moments

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a huge benefit because you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the moment. You're just thinking about get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball down so Devin can do his work. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of and well you can almost like shut

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<v Speaker 1>everything off and you just kind of just just things

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<v Speaker 1>just happened. So it's, um, you know, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>too nerve wracking. UM, I would say, um when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes that just because of the experience and um, the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of reps, I mean, park about together. The day

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<v Speaker 1>that you resigned, I had a speaking engagement with some

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals fans and I said, well, good news, Kevin Huber

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<v Speaker 1>has resigned as the Bengals holder. Now that they've improved

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line, they're not going to be punting this

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<v Speaker 1>year anyway, which got a good laugh. But is holding

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent of the job forty percent of the job,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you think of it? Um, you know, comparatively,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had you coaches, I had you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Lewis and and and coach Taylor. Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>under coach Lewis when we were a huge defensive amount

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<v Speaker 1>of team. I think hunting um was probably more important

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<v Speaker 1>because we did a lot of a lot of We

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<v Speaker 1>harped a lot on you know, winning the field position

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<v Speaker 1>battle um, you know, winning games division game, you know

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<v Speaker 1>nine to six where it's a couple of field goals

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<v Speaker 1>where there's not a lot of scoring, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you just keep pinning them back and enforcement of bad situations.

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<v Speaker 1>But now with with coach Taylor and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>offense and let's see how many points you can score.

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<v Speaker 1>And then add and Evan whose range is something that

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<v Speaker 1>we've never had before. You know, we've just got to

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<v Speaker 1>get across midfield. So I think the holding aspects is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely probably tipped more on the sixty percent side. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the punning part is just get good hits and

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself in the best best situation for that particular

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<v Speaker 1>punt and just kind of just don't screw up. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think holding has definitely the biggest u part of

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<v Speaker 1>my job right now. So you resigned right after the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>kind I think many of us assume, well, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>are waiting to see what happens in the draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it turned out you were the one that was waiting. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an offer on the table, but you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see what transpired. Yeah. We had communications back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leading after the draft five for like a

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<v Speaker 1>month or so. UM. But I you know, knowing, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just talk to my agent, knowing that there

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<v Speaker 1>were uh was more of a punt heavy UM incoming class.

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<v Speaker 1>UM been normal. UM. And you know I'm not dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not being the punter for the next sixty years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's gonna happen where at some point I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the punter. UM. And knowing that there was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more punters and you know, the opportunity for them the

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<v Speaker 1>good one. UM. You know, I wanted to see. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to sit back and see what uh what transpired

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<v Speaker 1>and draft and um just because if they drafted when

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get it, it's you know, it's um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just part of the job that we live in. And UM, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see what we're going on. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>UM I feel like if if they drapped someone, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I got drafted, they cut the other guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the team. So UM, I didn't want to put myself

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where I would be almost trapped if

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted someone that they were going to make them part.

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<v Speaker 1>So Drew Chrisman is here. He was on the practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad off and on for much of last year, so

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<v Speaker 1>they must have seen something in him they liked. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this training camp battle and he different from anyone that

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<v Speaker 1>you've been through in the past, considering that you will

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty seven when the season begins, well, considering that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've really ever had a quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>training camp battle. We've had some guys in, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>more combo guys that were more or less taking some

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<v Speaker 1>reps off the kickers and helping out with kickoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So yeah, I think this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be definitely different. And you know, I got my work

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<v Speaker 1>cut out from me. I'm definitely getting older quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of football years. But you know, Drew does

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<v Speaker 1>a good job. He's got he's got a big leg

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a really nice ball. But I know that

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<v Speaker 1>if I just do what I can do and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just stick to you know, not try to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out kick him, just do my job and be consistent

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<v Speaker 1>and put the ball needs to be put, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know the holding part. I feel, you know, very

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<v Speaker 1>confident and so as long as I do what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do, I should be fine. This is audio, not video.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you said I'm getting older, you did air

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<v Speaker 1>quotes when you said the word older. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean because I don't. I feel like I'm very old.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know it's viewed in the football world. Is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six is like, oh my gosh, he's he's done,

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<v Speaker 1>He's old. He's But I don't feel like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm you know, I feel like I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at Mobile just well now as I did five six

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. So I don't think the age is an

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<v Speaker 1>issue for me as far as losing leg strength. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>age is just a age, is just a number. You're

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<v Speaker 1>tied with Ken Riley for career games played in a

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals uniform. That's a regular season record. Is being alone

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<v Speaker 1>on the top of that mountain a big deal to you? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that'd be a pretty awesome, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>record to hold. And at the same time, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>let Clark have that instead of me. So I need

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I make the team and get that

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<v Speaker 1>record and keep Clark off the list. Really appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Best of luck this season. Thanks so much. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>all Right, here's a trivia question for you the next

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<v Speaker 1>time you're hanging out with a Bengals fan. Who is

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<v Speaker 1>the last person to punt for the Bengals other than

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Huber. The answer Romanian born Zoltan Mesco, who punted

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoff laws to the Chargers in January of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, when Huber was out with a broken jaw.

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<v Speaker 1>We turn from the longest tenured Bengal and Kevin Huber

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<v Speaker 1>to a newcomer, tight end Hayden Hurst, who spent two

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<v Speaker 1>years in Baltimore and two years in Atlanta before signing

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<v Speaker 1>a one year free agent deal with the Bengals to

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<v Speaker 1>replace c j Uzama. He spoke with reporters in front

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<v Speaker 1>of his locker on Tuesday. Yeah, it's just awesome being around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an organization like this that was in the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl last year, because they've set a standard, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's fun coming in as the new guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>get to kind of reinvent myself and live up to

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<v Speaker 1>that standards. So it's been fun. Who has helped you

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<v Speaker 1>the most with feeling like you're a Bengal, like you've

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<v Speaker 1>earned your stripes. Really, everybody on the offense is pretty helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. James is an awesome tight end coach. It's

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<v Speaker 1>nice having a guy like that in our room, just

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<v Speaker 1>level headed and helps me, you know, maintain focus and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and just learning the playbook and things.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe has been awesome, Brandon has been awesome to helped

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<v Speaker 1>me learn stuff, to Drew Mitch. So everybody's really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome me with open arms. It's been nice. Let this

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<v Speaker 1>phase help you and Joe develop a rapport and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Oh, it's incredible. It's incredibly helpful. Just like

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<v Speaker 1>today we're going over stuff just how he wants things

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<v Speaker 1>to run. And I went up and told him, I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all ears. You know, whatever you need me to do,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm here to do. He's the real deal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he captains the ship and you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, whatever coverage he sees, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>checking into certain things. So as a professional, it just

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<v Speaker 1>helps me be on my p's and q's because I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to know the ins and outs of that playbook.

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<v Speaker 1>The more that I know and the more that I

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<v Speaker 1>can do, the more I'll just be, you know, available

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to be on the field. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just this is my fifth year and my fifth

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<v Speaker 1>offense that I've had to learn, So it's it's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's nothing new to me. Just got

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<v Speaker 1>to go in and study and learn stuff. When you signed,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like the opportunity slash need at the position

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<v Speaker 1>really excited you. Now that you're here and you see

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<v Speaker 1>the guys, has that been reinforced even more. Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great group. You know I've been in I've been

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<v Speaker 1>lucky and blessed to be in some pretty good groups

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. These guys are awesome. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of all hands on deck right now helping

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<v Speaker 1>me learn this stuff. I'm excited to get in there

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<v Speaker 1>and play with those guys. There's a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>athletes in our room, a lot of smart guys. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good group to be around. Five offenses in

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<v Speaker 1>five years. Well, what's the hardest part about that? Just

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<v Speaker 1>getting the rapport with a quarterback. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I told Joe today. I said, Hey, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I do some things well but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have this all figured out. So whatever you need, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want, you know, that's that's what I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>to do. That's why they signed me. Um, whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>can do to help this team, help Joe, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to do this year. Watching you practice, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like you really get up the field quickly. It's

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<v Speaker 1>noticeable for a guy your size. Has anybody pointed that

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<v Speaker 1>out or saying, WHOA? I think this staff finally understands

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm capable of. It's taken five years, unfortunately, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything happens for a reason. I think God put me

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<v Speaker 1>here in Cincinnati for a reason. Like I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna do my job, buckled down, learn this playbook,

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<v Speaker 1>and just work my ass off. That's all I can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you did a lot of research about, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>where you wanted to sign and why, how was it

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<v Speaker 1>matched up with your experience now that you're in it,

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<v Speaker 1>I made the right choice. Just I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we all know what Nine's capable of. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible and he's a professional. And like I said, it

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<v Speaker 1>was good for me being in Atlanta because Matt was

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<v Speaker 1>that way, you know, he's a professional. You knew what

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to have every single day, So it

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<v Speaker 1>really raised the standard of what you had to do,

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<v Speaker 1>your knowledge of the game, your knowledge of the playbook.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, you know because, like I said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an expectation and you know, I have to live up

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<v Speaker 1>to it. So it's fun. Is that professionalism between the

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<v Speaker 1>two of those guys, who really stands out is the

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<v Speaker 1>big similarity one hundred percent. Some guys aren't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Some guys are. You know, he's he's about he's about

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<v Speaker 1>his business. You know, he's not really when he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the building, he's not screwing around. You know, he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he has to do and he expects you to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you need to do too. So just watching

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<v Speaker 1>him on the field from afar, you know, not even

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<v Speaker 1>being in the same huddle, you know what he's about.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're in the same huddle and you hear

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<v Speaker 1>him and it's confidence and what he expects. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it reinforces that. It's pretty awesome. Do you think people

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<v Speaker 1>around the league have any idea what you're capable of? No,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't wait. It's gonna be very fun. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I'm you know, I'm not throwing jabs anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but for whatever reason, it kind of hasn't clicked yet

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<v Speaker 1>in an offense with me and an offensive coordinator. And

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to have somebody fall in love with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't happened for me yet. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've kind of found home. You get to

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<v Speaker 1>play both of your former teams. Yeah, smile has already

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<v Speaker 1>come to your face looking forward to that. I'm already

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<v Speaker 1>a self motivated guy. There's not really you know, outside

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that drives me a whole lot. But there's any

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<v Speaker 1>more fuel to my fire that I needed, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>have it. I was a minor league baseball announcer for

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<v Speaker 1>several years, so we have minor league baseball in common.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that experience, and I know it was tough

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<v Speaker 1>for you, How did that shape you and help you

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<v Speaker 1>reach the point you preach? It's made me a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a resilient athlete because in high school I just

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<v Speaker 1>showed up and I was better than everybody. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't have to work hard, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do this. And then I get into

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<v Speaker 1>pro baseball and I get my ass kicked a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was able to kind of, you know, go

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<v Speaker 1>back to who I am and work myself out of

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<v Speaker 1>it and get to the NFL. But it's just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty resilient, you know. You know when I get kicked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I scratch and clawback. There's not a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that can keep me down. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to scratch and claw my way to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, luckily I was given this opportunity, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's all going to scratch and claw. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're not familiar with Hayden hurst pro baseball career, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a highly touted pitching prospect in the Pirates organization

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<v Speaker 1>with a ninety five mile an hour fastball when he

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<v Speaker 1>came down with a yips much like former Big leaguer

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Blasts and rick An Keel, where he completely lost

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to throw strikes. It was even hard for

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<v Speaker 1>him to play catch, so he quit baseball, walked on

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<v Speaker 1>to the football team at South Carolina, and eventually became

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<v Speaker 1>a first round draft pick by the Ravens. Here's an

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<v Speaker 1>invitation to grab your yoga matt and join WHO Day

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<v Speaker 1>time for something a little different with Dave Lapham. You're

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<v Speaker 1>probably familiar with the concept of sports mount rushmoors basically

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<v Speaker 1>the top four in any given category. For example, the

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<v Speaker 1>mount Rushmoor's of NFL quarterbacks might be Tom Brady, Joe Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning, and Johnny Unitis. Well, this week, Lap and

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to go mountain climbing. All right, Lap, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to cover a wide variety of Bengals related

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<v Speaker 1>Mount rushmoors. These are the top four things in any

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<v Speaker 1>given category. Let's start with a really obvious one, basically

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<v Speaker 1>the Mount Rushmore of Bengals. These are the four most

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<v Speaker 1>impactful individuals in franchise history. Who is on your Mount

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<v Speaker 1>Rushmore of Bengals. I think the Fans did a good

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<v Speaker 1>job with the Ring of Honor, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all four of those people that were selected

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<v Speaker 1>for the Ring of Honor huge impacts. Obviously, Paul Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>not just on the Cincinnati Bengals founded the franchise, but

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<v Speaker 1>in National Football League in general. When you think about

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<v Speaker 1>inventing the face mask team meetings during the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the week, going and staying at a hotel even for

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<v Speaker 1>home games, you know, to stay together as a group

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<v Speaker 1>and meet as a group before the game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he had so many innovations way back that to this

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<v Speaker 1>day are part of the normal you know, day to day,

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<v Speaker 1>week to week occurrences in the National Football League. And

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Bill Belichick always talks about this is

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<v Speaker 1>the way Paul Brown did it, and it's still happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the year, you know, in a decade of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's crazy when you think about it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to say he be one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>impactful people in the National Football League in general, in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the league. So he's, uh, he's obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a huge factor there. Um Ken Amerson called

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<v Speaker 1>the most important player in franchise history by Mike Brown agreed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and that that speaks volumes so huge

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<v Speaker 1>impact on the on the organization. For a guy to

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<v Speaker 1>come out of tiny Augustana in the third round, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's like sixty fourth pick of the draft or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was to play like he played for as

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 1>long as he played, UM and and the way he played,

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and the type of person you know that that he

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<v Speaker 1>was for all those years as a leader and on

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and off the football field for the organization. Huge impact

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 1>on what happened with the Cincinnati Bengals. Um. You know,

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Boomris Hiasin has made a massive impact. Not not yet

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:03.919
<v Speaker 1>in the Ring of Honor, but a strong candidate to

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>be there very very quickly. But his impact was incredible.

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I think from a just one guy rallying other guys standpoint,

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>he's as good as I've ever seen. Everybody just gravitated

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>to that guy. He just had the IT factor CAPITALI,

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>capital T. You know, he was dripping in it whatever.

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>It is, hard to define describe it, but he had it.

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 1>There's there's no question. You know, so very very very

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>impactful guy there. And you know, obviously you can go

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 1>through all the Super Bowl quarterbacks Joel Burrow. Look at

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the impact he's having on this franchise right now. Man,

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean at Super Bowl fifty six, it's only the beginning.

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>He's just he's in the infancy stages, and his impact

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 1>was felt on just about every level of the organization

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>anyway that it can be felt. He's he's a football

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>savant and he has the factor as well, that that

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 1>very intangible thing that it's hard too hard to put

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>your arms around, hard to define, how to how to grasp.

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But you know when guys have it and when they don't,

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and when you have it, you don't want to lose it.

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is you got. Munio's out there right absolutely,

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Anthony Munos is uh, you know, the impact

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that he had on the organization is just, you know,

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:39.120
<v Speaker 1>absolutely mind boggling. He and Max Montoya, the Mexican connection

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>with the common thread between the Super Bowls really Um,

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>there were other players that played in both Super Bowls,

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>but up front, those guys set the standards, set the tempo,

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>set everything. Um and huge impact and obviously Anthony Munos

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe the best human being I've ever known, so in

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>terms of on the field off the field, he is, uh,

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 1>He's the epitome of greatness. UM. Goat is an understatement

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I think for what Anthony Muneos brought to the franchise,

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>brought to the city. Um, it's it's just you know,

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty very impressive, to say the least. And and Kenny Riley,

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>who was another guy played sixteen years in the National

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Football League at the level that he played at um

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and his he may have been as quiet and as

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>um uh non, Hey look at me, look at me,

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>leader I've ever seen in my life. This guy man

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just led by how he lived his life, led by example,

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 1>led by what he was doing. He wasn't a real

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>vocal guy. He was one of those guys that showed you,

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, here's here's how it's supposed to be done,

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>here's how you go about it, here's what you do,

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>here's what you stay away from, here's what you don't do.

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>He was He was unbelievable, not just for defensive backs

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.959
<v Speaker 1>but for everybody. Just look at Kenny Riley and get

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 1>a great example of how to prepare in the classroom,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.479
<v Speaker 1>how to practice, how to take care of yourself, all

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the things you need to do to be a pro,

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>on top of being a phenomenal human being himself. All right,

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you can only have four heads. So the Lapham Bengals

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 1>mount Rushmore as of now, because you know, Joe Burrow

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously could change things very soon. But Brown, Munio's Anderson,

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and Boomer is that if you've got to pick the fourth,

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>it's Boomer. I'd probably yeah, I'd probably do that. The

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>two quarterbacks, you know, just by the nature of the

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>position and what they when they when it works out,

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>when it's successful, what they've done to make it that way.

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like when you have a special quarterback, you're

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna have specials, no doubt. All Right, the Dan Horde, Bengals,

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Mount Rushmore, I think the first three or no brainers.

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Paul Brown, Anthony Munio's, Ken Anderson are those

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>heads are definitely carved in that granite. My fourth, I'd

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>give strong consideration to you, honestly, playing career and broadcasting career,

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you're probably my fifth head right now. But my fourth,

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, is Chad Johnson for kind of

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 1>cultural impact. I mean, obviously a great career ten years

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals, six time Pro Bowl are still the

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>all time leader in franchise history in catches and yards.

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But he made Cincinnattie cool. He was charismatic. You know,

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting now, how often when we ask these newcomers,

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>what did you know about the Bengals as a kid

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. What are your memories of the Bengals growing up?

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>They always say, Oh, I love Chad Johnson. Chad Johnson

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>was my guy. So for now Chad gets my fourth

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>head and my Bengals. Mount Rushmore knowing that Joe Burrow,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>if he keeps this up, could and probably hopefully will

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>be eventually the fourth had But at the moment, I've

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.479
<v Speaker 1>got Chad Johnson, slash Ojo Sinko's handsome face up by

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Matt mount Rushmore can't argue. I mean, that's that's obviously

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a huge, huge image in persona in Bengals history, There's

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>no question about it. I guess I'm old school in that. Um.

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, Paul was part of championships in Cleveland, championships

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati, and Kenny Anderson Boomer, they were part of championships,

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>not winning the Super Bowl, but AFC championships and Anthony

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>as well, So that that that was a that's a

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>factor in uh in my decision making there, and Chad

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't not due to Chad's performance, but just didn't work

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>out for him during his career for the football team,

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people thought that it could have

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and should have and they had they had the goods

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to get it done, but it just didn't didn't work out.

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Very very worthy Mount Rushmore pick. All right, we move

0:28:55.920 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>on to another category, our Mount Rushmore of Bengals play.

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>These are individual plays en franchise history that we are

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>carving into that granite. What are your Mount Rushmore Bengals

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>plays I'll never forget as a rookie. In October sixth

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen seventy four, my rookie year, Lamar Parish jaw dropping.

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>We're playing the Washington Redskins at Riverfront Stadium. We end

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>up beating him twenty eight to seventeen, and Lamar Parish

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>scored two touchdowns, one on special teams, a ninety yard

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>punt return which that dazzled me and everybody in the stadium,

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and then forced fumble. He picks it up and returns

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of forty seven yards. Another couple moves for another touchdown.

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So he scores two non conventional scores by the same

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>individual and the other two phases of football besides offense,

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>defense and special teams. I'm like, oh my god, this

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>dude is unbelievable. And that left a huge impression on

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>me watching Lamar Parish early in my rookie year. Just

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was dumbfounded by the guy's physical presence

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and his ability, um you know. Another one was Kenny

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Riley had a pick six against the Cleveland Browns that

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>won the game late. We're you know, t tie football game.

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Late in the game nineteen eighty three, my last year

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals. I guess that's why has an impression

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>on me as well as my final year with the

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Bengals and Rattler, who, like I said, I idolized Kenny Riley.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was. He was like if there was

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>pillars of the franchise and people that you know, you

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>want to try to emulate how they lived their life

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and played the game of football. Kenny Riley was one

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of the ones that I had definitely as a as

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a foundational building block. And he had that interception off

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Brian Side took it to the house beat the hated

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns. I mean I remember I remember that play

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>extremely vividly. Another one that comes to mind Corey Dillon

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a forty one yard touchdown to break Walter Payton's two

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in seventy five yards a single rushing record, got Corey

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>two seventy eight. It happened on that forty one yard

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>touchdown against the Denver Broncos, and the Bengals were I

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think they'd won a game up until that matchup

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>against Denver. They're like, oh, in six or something like that,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I think. And I remember being down on the field

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>before the game and John Tilink, their defensive line coach,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>was out there and Corey came running by, and really

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you could feel the earth move. Corey Dillon was one

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>of those guys where you could just you could just

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>feel it. You could just feel it happening. And so

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>John Tilling's like his players are just a little bit

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>away from him warming up, and he was talking to

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other coaches and Corey runs by, and

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I was standing a little bit away from everybody watching.

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>He's like, looks at Corey, looks at the beginning, goes, hight, boys,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>let's go. We gotta get ready to play. He's like

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>he could he could not believe the force, the power

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that he felt when Corey Dylan came thundering by him. Uh,

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>down on the down on the football field, and I

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>remember feeling that exact same thing. And I remember talking

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to dick Lebaul about that, and he said, Jimmy Brown,

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>our Syracuse guy. He said that you could feel the

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>earth move when when Jimmy Brown ran the football. So

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess those are the four players that kind of

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>stick to my mind, umu, and two of them are

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Parish in the same game obviously, but that that

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that game was like at that point I realized these

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>guys are good. I mean, this is another level to watch.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>To watch that and uh, they remember the two old quarterbacks,

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>scraggy quarterbacks, Billy Kilmers Sonny Jourgensen. You know, it's like

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a snot nos twenty two year old, twenty

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>three year old kid just taking it all in. I mean,

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I can remember everything about that that game because of

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the excellence Lamar. All right, So this is good because

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>my mount rushmore of Bengal's plays four different plays, two

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>for like impact and two for just how spectacular the

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>individual plays were. So the individual spectacular ones Number one

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Jerome Simpson flying somersaults in two eleven as you nailed it,

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the moment on the broadcast, the Russian

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>judge gives him a ten for the forward somersault. So

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that was awesome. Second one, Giovanni Bernard's Halloween touchdown Thursday

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>night run against Miami. It was thirty five yards technically,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>but on Sports Center later that night they measured it

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>one hundred one point nine yards because he went sidelined

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to sideline, he went backward, he went forward. It was

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a thirty five yard run that lasted sixteen seconds. Typically

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a thirty five yard run lasts about seven seconds. Just

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>an incredible individual play by Giovanni Bernard. Then for impact

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Stanford Jennings kickoff return touchdown and Super Bowl twenty three.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>It gave the Bengals a Super Bowl lead for the

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>first time ever, ninety three yards, one of the great

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>kick returns in pro football history. And then my final one,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>very recent Germaine Pratt's clinching interception against the Raiders in

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs last year, thirty one years of playoff frustration

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>over biggest crowd in Paul Brown Stadium history. That feeling

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of you know, Catharsis was awesome. So that that right

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>now is at the top of my list for Bengals

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Mount Rushmore plays. Yeah, I mean that all all huge plays.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Um It's funny though, I mean all of those plays

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>impactful through the broadcast part of it, you know, experience,

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you there's something about being involved, you know,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 1>on the field in the game when a guy does

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 1>something that's like what it just man, it just puts

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>a sledgehammer in print on your mind, you know, it

0:34:56.000 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>really does. All. Fortunately, over the fifty plus years, the

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Bengals have had a lot of a lot of big

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>plays as you would expect offense, defense, and special teams,

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. All right, next category our mount Rushmore of

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>most painful Bengals moments. Unfortunately, there have been a few.

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>But what is your mount rushmore in that category? Okay, well,

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to go to the two Super Bowls. Well,

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>actually you can go. I'm gonna go to all three

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowls, I guess for three of them. Super Bowl sixteen,

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.479
<v Speaker 1>the goal line stand, I mean, just good. God makes

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>me vomit every time I think about it. And it

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just because of the excellence of the forty nine

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Ers defense and they which they were very stout and

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>very good, but God dang it, we made it so

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>easy on them by making mistakes, you know, on three

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>out of the four snaps. And when you do that

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>in that big a game, that big of a moment,

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't put yourself on your schedule. I mean, they're

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>good enough to to whip you, and they whipped us

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>because they were good enough to do it, and we

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>helped him. So that ineptitude of not being able to

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>score at the start, you know, cut cut into a

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty point episode at halftime by a touchdown that would

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have made it twenty to fourteen with oodles of time

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to go in the game would have been a different

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>football game. But we didn't get it done. So that

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>was still to this day extremely painful, There's no doubt

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about it. Super Bowl twenty three man Tim Crumry shattering

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>his leg, I mean, Stanley Wilson lapsing into, you know,

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a problem with his addiction issues, Lewis Billips dropping a

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>sure interception pick, any of those all painful moments, you know.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, David Grant played played very good or very

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>fine football game, played very well, I should say, um.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>But Tim Crombry was the glue, you know, he was.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>He was such a such an integral part of the

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the being of that football team, not just defense, but

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>just the being of the Cincinnati Bengals in that Super

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Bowl season. To have him go down as early as

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>he did, it was almost like the indestructible Ultimate Warrior

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>went down. Oh my god, that's impossible. And they overcame

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it pretty well. Um, but that was a very painful moment.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>And then the painful moment of Super Bowl twenty three,

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Joe barrogetting spun around. And there's an operty six Super

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Bowl fifty six, the most recent one, Um, Joe Barrow

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>getting spun around by Aaron Donald and there were opportunities

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>there to extend to play and maybe win the game. Um,

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's you know that that was very painful. It

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>was one of six sacks that were allowed in the

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>second half of that football game. Extremely painful. So I guess,

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I guess those would be painful moments for me in

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Bengal's history that occurred in super big uber games. For sure,

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you got a fourth. You got those three Super Bowls,

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>a fourth a fourth painful moment, of course, you had

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>several from Super Bowl twenty times. There's there's a laundry list. Yeah,

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 1>there's a laundry list of them. I'll hate you with mine.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And then maybe you agree with one of these or

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a jogs your you know thought process for another one.

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>So I had the goal line stand that was number

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>one on my list I had from Super Bowl twenty three.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I wrote down Montana to Taylor because that was the

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:41.959
<v Speaker 1>final nail in the coffin. That was John Taylor's only

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>catch of that Super Bowl. The game weather with thirty

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>four seconds to go. And again, you know, it was

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a mistake in the secondary. And that's how a lot

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of big plays happened, you know, due to the other

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>team making a mistake and credit the team that wins

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>by capitalizing on no question, I wrote down the Jeremy

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Hill umble in the infamous fifteen playoff meltdown at Paul

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Brown Stadium. AJ mcgarreon hits Aj Green for the touchdown

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.919
<v Speaker 1>pass with one fifty to go. On the next play

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>from scrimmage, Perfect intercepts Landry Jones with one thirty six

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to go. The Bengals have a one point lead with

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the ball at the Pittsburgh twenty six and on the

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 1>very next play from scrimmage, Jeremy Hill gets stripped by

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Shazier. Ross Cockrell recovers. We know what happened after that.

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>So those are three and then my fourth painful Mount

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Rushmore Bengals moment Greg Cook's injury third game of his

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>rookie year, fifth pick in the draft, the Bengals are

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>off to a three and oz start. He tears his

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>rotator cuff, misses three games, the Bengals lose them all.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>He does come back, wins offensive Rookie of the Year,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 1>has a great year, and never significantly plays again because

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>at that point a rotator cuff injury wasn't easily repaired exactly.

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>And Buck Buchanan, you know'll fill on his arm as

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>it was extended and ripped his shoulder up and to

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the this day, I remember talking to Paul Brown, God

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>rest his soul, about the excellence of Greg Cook, and

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>he just couldn't say enough. Superlatos and Mike Brown the

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>same way I mean Greg Cook was. I did uh

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>play in a couple of charity basketball games scenarios with

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable athlete, I mean, just really gifted, really good

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>basketball player. But I can imagine what he was like

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>out in the football field as a as a quarterback,

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and all of his teammates and coaches that were what

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>we're part of that time. You know that lightning bolt

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of time with Greg Cook, say man just cursed if

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 1>he'd been able to avoid injury and sustain it. Who knows?

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Who know? All Right, our mount rushmore of Bengals good guys. Fortunately,

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>this is another category where we could pick dozens really,

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>but we've got to have four heads on the mountain

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>of Bengals good guys. Yeah, I mean there's there's so

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>many obviously, you know in my mind Anthony, when you

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>knows goes, yeah, he goes, he goes to the leadership.

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>He's he's carrying the banner as uh as you look

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>at look at the good guys on on the football team.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, guys that that stood up, uh you know,

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to to the mass media in in difficult times as

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>well as the good times and and handled both with

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 1>ease and both with uh with applauma as such. Boomerisias

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and Chris Collinsworth, you know. Uh, those those kind of

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 1>guys come to mind. The Swat team Fulture, uh Sally Et.

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Those guys were really good guys you know as well,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and had an influence on their uh you know, on

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>their football teams in a in a very positive way.

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, I mean, you can you can name

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>so so many. Giovanni Bernard, who you talked about, Um

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.439
<v Speaker 1>with that run against the Miami Dolphins, zig zagging all

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>over the football field. Just just an unbelievable human being. Um.

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 1>The list, the list is so long, you feel like

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I you know, I don't want

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to leave anybody out because there are there are a

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>ton of guys that I mean. You look at guys

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>like Bruce Kazerski, you know, a great guy in a

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 1>in a stand up guy. I've been very fortunate to

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>be around a lot of offensive lineman as a as

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a player, a teammate, and as from a broadcast position.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>That's my go to group. You know, when it's when

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>when that's uh dicey on, when it's a tough sledding

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 1>as touch, I go to get some lubricant to make

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that a little bit easier from the offensive line. And

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they're always they're always they'll always stand up to it

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and handle it in the right way. So there's Kenny Emerson,

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, my roommate for so many years, just a

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>just a great guy, just a you know, assault of

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the earth type guy. UM, great father, great family man,

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, just a just a phenomenal human being. The

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>list goes on and on, and that we're very fortunate,

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I think to be blessed that way. I think that's

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>part of when the Bengals have had good teams. That

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 1>has been part of the reason why the chemistry factor

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and chemistry is easy to established, easily established when you

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 1>have good guy Joe Burrows, a great guy, really good

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 1>guy Jamar Chase, great guy, um you know, Sam Hubbard.

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>There's leaders. There's great guys and leaders on every phase

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of this current Cincinnati Bengal football team. And that's where

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>chemistry comes from. That's where culture comes from. It starts

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>with guys that are all in, you know, and all

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>about each other. It's it's it's we us, It's not

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I me, and you have to have That's what it's

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>all about. All right. Here are the four guys on

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>my Bengals. Good guy Mount Rushmore, Anthony Munyo's finest human

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 1>being I've ever met, the most impressive person in any

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>walk of life I've ever met. So he's an obvious guy.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Bloomer Asiasin not only a great player, but really for

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>his big heart. Think of what he's done with his

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>foundation for cystic fibrosis. They've raised more than one hundred

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen million dollars to extend lives. Just incredible. I'm

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>putting Andy Dalton on the list for Andy and JJ Foundation.

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Think of all they've done for six children and their families,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>those hubs and hospitals, the date nights, the Christmas gifts,

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff. And then I'm putting Andrew Whitworth

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>on the list. The NFL Man of the Year last year.

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Just phenomenal the years he was in Cincinnati. On a

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 1>personal note, my wife took me out for my birthday

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 1>one year. We're at a fancy restaurant in Cincinnati. It's

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like a Tuesday night or something like that. While we're

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>in the restaurant, it happened to be there, came by

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.879
<v Speaker 1>with his wife, said hello, exchange pleasantries. Didn't think much

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of it. At the end of the night when we

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>went to pay, he had picked up the tables. Yeah,

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and this was an expensive meal. So that was very

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of him. You know, I'm not putting him on

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>the Mount Rushmore for that reason, but what a good

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>man he is. Yeah, he is. I mean and Anthony

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Muniels and Andrew were Worth have a very very close

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>relationship and type bond. Cut from the same cloth. You know,

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's um and it's it's about as uh as

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>good a piece of cloth as you can find. You know,

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>there's there's no imperfections in that cloth, and they're both

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>cut from it. Um major major impacts on their organizations.

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>In what's case, two organizations and Anthony's he was briefly

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa Bay, but obviously the biggest part of his

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame career was with the Cincinnati Bengals and

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>ironic two left tackles. You know, so they Bengals had

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>a nice run for a lot of years by somebody

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that mean that left hackle position, the blind side of

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the right hand quarterback, that not only was made of

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the right stuff physically, but mentally and spiritually and everything

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to be able to play at a high level for

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a very long time. We moved to our Mount Rushmore

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of Bengals nicknames. Top four Bengals nicknames en franchise history. Okay,

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>well I'm gonna go. My number one UM is Ben

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Jarvis green ellis the law firm. I mean when they

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>when named Ben Jarvis green Ellis Law Firm, it was

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like it was so perfect. I'm like that that's classic.

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>That really is. I mean, that's just that's just a

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>classic plastic nickname law firm. Um. I like positional nicknames

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>more so than individual nicknames. The Web Wilson Whitley, Eddie Edwards,

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Ross Browner, Gary Burley, names w EBB, the web super

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Bowl sixteen that it has, you know, the double meanings

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.919
<v Speaker 1>and all that. Uh, those guys did a great job

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 1>up front, and they formed a web that people had

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to deal with and and uh couldn't couldn't quite solve.

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I like, uh, I like Swat Team as well. You know,

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I liked I like that nickname for that that group

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of guys, uh, for obvious reasons, and it caught on.

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean they literally were posterized and uh and to

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>this day, Uh, every every Bengal fan you know knows

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>knows all about the Swat Team. Um. So, I guess

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess those would be those would be the four.

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess I've used up my four there? Or is

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that only three? That's three? That's three? Yeah? Um another nickname, Um,

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess. I mean there's there's there's plenty of uh

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like Ikey Woods. I mean that's that's that's kind of

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a classic classic nickname. The Mexican Connection is another nickname

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>from more than one guy Monels in Montoya, but you

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>know Elbert Woods, I guess I'd probably go by Yaki

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.760
<v Speaker 1>as well. I think that's that's one of the classic nicknames,

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>probably in in franchise history. All right, My Mount Rushmore

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Bengals nicknames. The Rattler. I thought that was great for

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Ken Riley because you know, he got it from his

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 1>alma mater, but it also was descriptive of his, you know,

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>style of play, like a rattlesnake attacking getting all those

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>sixty five interceptions. The throwing Samoan for Jack Thompson, it's

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>a great nickname. Now, he didn't do well in the NFL,

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and people, you know, jokingly changed it to the overthrown Samoan,

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 1>but it was still a great nickname. Ocho Cinco. For

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>this reason, the fact that Chad would legally change his

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>name in order to be able to put it on

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the back of his uniform, I thought would say exactly

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>only Chad Genius. I got to throw the red rifle

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>on there because I came up with it. But it's

0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 1>stuck for whatever reason, it's stuck. So are my four

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>mount Rushmore Bengal nicknames are mount Rushmore of best Bengals

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:10.839
<v Speaker 1>draft picks. Now this can take into account, you know

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>where they were selected, the value, uh so top four

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Mount Rushmore Bengals draft picks for Dave Lappom, Yeah, I'm

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna go uh into this for that reason. Um, that

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>these these guys drafted, you know where they were drafted

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>for them to pan out to the level that they

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>panned out, Um, Bob Trumpy with a twelfth round pick

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>in the three hundreds, you know, Uh, that's that's pretty

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:45.720
<v Speaker 1>good value there. Multiple time Pro bowler Charles Booby Clark

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>was drafted I think the seventeenth round Paul Brown, as

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>only Paul Brown could goes down to Bethune Cookman. He

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:57.439
<v Speaker 1>sees this tight end named Charles Clark. That's another great

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>nickname though, Booby, That's that's a nickname candidate right there,

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 1>U Booby Clark. He says, this is my big back,

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.319
<v Speaker 1>this is my Marion Motley, this is my you know,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.479
<v Speaker 1>later on Pete Johnson, Booby Clark was a talented guy,

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and uh and they they got a lot of production

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 1>with a very late pick in in in Booby Clark.

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Tim Crumry the tenth pick of the draft. I think

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 1>it's two hundred and seventy six pick. I think he

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.839
<v Speaker 1>was in the in the draft. Tim crum rye uh

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to to play at the level that he played at.

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And I can tell you my last year was his

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 1>rookie year, and he was not happy about being a

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:41.479
<v Speaker 1>tenth round pick. And Dave Remington was the first round pick,

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and every time we did one on one Nutcracker drill,

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>he jumped in there no matter what they had arranged

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>by script. So he wanted to go against that first

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 1>round pick in the draft and try to, you know,

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>show him that he guys I belong Well, he showed

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 1>he belonged very very early and very very often. So

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, I'd say he's another one of mine that

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you know that obviously panned out and panned out very

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 1>very well. And then I'm just gonna go with the

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>three headed monster of three offensive linemen in the nineteen

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight Super Bowl team, Max Montoya seventh round pick,

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Joel Walter seventh round pick, Bruce Kazerski ninth round pick.

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Three starters. You know you got the Hall of Famer

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and the you know, the early pick of his draft,

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Munios. But three of the other four guys you

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 1>know picked in the late one hundreds and into the

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 1>two hundreds and formed U formed a pretty formidable group

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.879
<v Speaker 1>up front there in the offensive line. And that just

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>speaks to the genius I think of Jim McNally as

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the offensive land coach. All right. My Mount Rushmore of

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Bengals draft picks also includes Tim cump Crimry for the

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>value number two seventy six overall, as you mentioned, arguably

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the best defensive player in franchise history. Similarly, I have

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Geno Atkins on my Mount Rushmore fourth round pick number

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>one twenty overall, eight time Pro bowler, most of any

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Bengals defensive player All Decade team in the twenty tens.

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 1>So I've got Gino on there. I've got T. J.

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Hushman Zada on my all draft pick Mount Rushmore seventh

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 1>round pick number two oh four overall twenty five wide

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>receivers taken before him still holds the franchise record for

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>most catches in a season. And then this is not

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>a late pick, but I'm putting Anthony Munio's on the list.

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Number three overall only because so many teams took him

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 1>off their board because of his injuries. Only played one

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>game a senior year at USC. The Bengals watched him

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 1>in the Rose Bowl. Mike Brown famously said that he

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and Paul laughed watching the game because they knew his

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.720
<v Speaker 1>knee was one hundred percent. And they took the plunge

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 1>at number three overall and wound up with the best

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>player in team history. And I remember Forest Greg went

0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>out there to work him out, and Forrest Greg lined

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 1>up as a defensive end and a wide technique to

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 1>pass rush, and Anthony moved out there effortlessly and flewidly

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and flawlessly and put two hands into Forrest chest and

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 1>jammed him to the ground. Forrest Greg went and Anthony's like,

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>oh no, you know, he's like helping him up, and Forest,

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it's good. You're good. We're good. He came back, he said,

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:24.439
<v Speaker 1>we're drafting him. No fens or butts, We're drafting this guy.

0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So what a great move by the Cincinnati Bengals to

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>draft Anthony Windows. All right, our next category, the mount

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:38.959
<v Speaker 1>rushmore of assistant coaches in Bengals history. Well, we talked

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 1>about Kenny Anderson being the most important player in franchise history.

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>The guy that tutored him, Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh was

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable mind football mind and an unbelievable football coach,

0:53:55.840 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and obviously he went on to great success after after

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 1>leaving this Cincinnati Bengals. But Paul Brown knew what he

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 1>was doing there. Bill Walsh was on that original staff

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and just a dynamic football coach. And I remember Kenny

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about how Bill Walsh got him ready to play

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>at the National Football League level, you know, over and

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. The repetition started with defeat, and

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Kenny said, they did footwork for like twice a day

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.400
<v Speaker 1>for a week before they even put a football in

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 1>his hand. And then they started, you know, working through

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the other body mechanics and then ultimately throwing the football.

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 1>And it was a month for he threw the football.

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So he basically took him apart and put him back

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 1>together again. The player from tiny Augustana was draft in

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the third round, and that's a spectacular draft pick as

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>well as it turned out to take Kenny Anderson in

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the sixties in the third round, sixty fourth or whatever

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 1>it was. I think that in that particular draft and

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>then have Bill Waltz to tutor him and to guide

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.400
<v Speaker 1>him and to mold him into the player that he became.

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:09.319
<v Speaker 1>And Kenny Will talked freely about it. I mean a

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of it's right place, right time, luck Bill Walsh.

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>How can you ask for anything better than Paul Brown

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and Bill Walsh as you're a young player coming into

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 1>the league. I feel the same way about another assistant coach,

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>my first offensive line coach, Bill Tiger Johnson. Paul Brown

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>is the head coach, Bill Tiger john Bill Tiger Johnson's

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 1>my offensive line coach and just an unbelievable teacher the

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 1>game of football, great player himself, Pro Bowl player with

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the forty nine ers at center, snapping the ball to

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 1>y A Tittle. So I'm like, I'm gonna listen to

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 1>what this guy says. And he was great. Just a great,

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable coach to have for your first to experience in

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. To have a teacher like that,

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and then another line coach is a great assistant in

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>my mind. Jim McNally. You know, Jimmy, Jimmy was, he's

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:04.799
<v Speaker 1>still He's a guy that's just walking Encyclopedia technique and

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 1>he's always trying to refine and UH and to improve

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and H and rebuild. And then on the defensive side,

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Dick Lebau he's you know, the zone blitz he was

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>doing here with the Cincinnati Bengals with David Fulcher before

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Troy Paalamalo in the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was doing a

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of the same things and we're getting the same

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 1>type of results. Dick Lebou was a phenomenal you know,

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:36.839
<v Speaker 1>defensive back in his day. Hall of Famer and two

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>categories player and coach, you know, um, and just as

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>good a defensive coordinator. He was probably the premier guy

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>his time. UM. Hank Bulla, the doctor of defense that

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 1>we had in Super Bowl sixteen, another unbelievable football mind.

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 1>He was doing blitzes and doing things defensively that were

0:56:56.360 --> 0:57:01.799
<v Speaker 1>ahead of his time, you know, So offensively and defensively.

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:06.879
<v Speaker 1>There's been some outstanding, outstanding coaches. There's no question I'll

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>throw Darren Simmons in there as far as special teams coaches.

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>He's as good as I've seen and he's been doing

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it here for a long time. And Mike Brown is

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a football man, and Mike Brown realizes that he's got

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 1>something unique and significant in Darren Simmons, and he's kept

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 1>them and made sure that he's kept them, and that

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that phase, that third phase has always taken care of

0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and take care of at a very very high level,

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>as high level as you can get. With Darren Simmons. Again,

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>another unbelievable teacher. And that's that's what a football coach is.

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>They'll tell you. You know, I look at myself as

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a teacher, and these guys are all great teachers. All right,

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>You've got my mount rushmore of assistant coaches covered. I've

0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 1>got Bill Walsh, Dick Lebou, Jim McNally, and also Darren Simmons.

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Darren nineteenth year with the team, certainly

0:57:57.840 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the best special teams coordinators in the end.

0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I will give you my honorable mentions. Mike Zimmer, Frank Ganz,

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 1>who was a you know, special team's trend setter, certainly

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 1>helped establish the importance of that coaching position on the staff.

0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Jim Anderson tremendous running backs coach for three decades, and

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing Hugh Jackson in there. It obviously did not

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>work out as an NFL head coach, but he was

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a great assistant coach no matter where Marvin Lewis put him.

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>And the same thing with Dick Lebau. You know, it

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:32.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out as a head coach, but does not

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 1>diminish you know, the achievements and accolades that should be

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>given to those achievements as an unbelievable assistant coach, no

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:44.480
<v Speaker 1>question about it. We moved to the Mount Rushmore of

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Bengals villains. These are opponents that either starred against the

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Bengals or God under our skin or God under Bengals

0:58:54.440 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>fans skin. The Mount Rushmore of Bengals villains. Yeah, I mean, uh,

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, I'm going to go back to playing days.

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean Pittsburgh Steelers, you know the Steel Curtain. I

0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>mean that defense. Uh, Joe green Ernie Holmes, Dwight White.

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Elsie Greenwood wasn't quite like those guys from a personality standpoint,

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:22.600
<v Speaker 1>but he you know, he kind of followed the back.

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>But they just soon spit on you, look at you

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and literally they would spit on you and kick you

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>in the in the below the waste regions. I mean

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 1>literally that that would that occurred, all of it. I

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>mean that that that football team. And then you know,

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in the next level he had Jack Lambert, toothless Jack

0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>back there who would just he would a lot of

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:47.960
<v Speaker 1>spittle would come between those teeth that would be taken

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>out to play the game. He was, he was, he

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>was something else they had. They had big time intimidating

0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>type players, Mel Blunt on the back end, Donnie Shell

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:03.439
<v Speaker 1>at safety. I mean that was basically a defense full

1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of guys that would would bend the rules as far

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 1>as they could be bent. But they were great players too,

1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:15.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean just phenomenal, phenomenal athletes. They were so well

1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 1>put together. George Parlos, their defensive coach that put it together,

1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 1>came up with you know, adjustments and and schematic you know,

1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>techniques that were just you know, just outstanding. This phenomenal um.

1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I'd have to go with the Cleveland Browns.

1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:35.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm stuck in my playing days again. Battle

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of Ohio. Um, you know Joe Turkey Jones, who monk

1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Terry Bradshaw was on his head. Uh, you know that

1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:47.240
<v Speaker 1>they were. They were something to deal with as a

1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:51.760
<v Speaker 1>defensive football team as well. Um, Jerry Shark was a

1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:55.960
<v Speaker 1>was a great player at the defensive defensive tackle position,

1:00:56.000 --> 1:00:59.479
<v Speaker 1>and Walter Johnson. The guy played against was Man Mountain Dean.

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was a heavyweight wrestling champion and he

1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 1>just he was a powerful, powerful man. They were really

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:11.440
<v Speaker 1>good up front. They had excellent linebacker corps. Clay Matthews

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<v Speaker 1>Senior was playing at that particular time, to Ambrose was

1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:17.720
<v Speaker 1>at the middle linebacker position. They had Tom Darden and

1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:19.640
<v Speaker 1>guys like that on the back end that would stone you.

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<v Speaker 1>They definitely hit you. I'd say, you know that, uh

1:01:23.320 --> 1:01:28.479
<v Speaker 1>that the Cleveland Browns um that Raiders in my era

1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:31.640
<v Speaker 1>with John Matuzac and otis Sister Drunk and you know

1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:35.240
<v Speaker 1>from the University of Mars and um and Al Davis

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<v Speaker 1>famously said, look, um, take it to the limit every

1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:45.280
<v Speaker 1>single snap play in the gray area. Take it as

1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:47.520
<v Speaker 1>far as the gray air as you possibly can. And

1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:49.960
<v Speaker 1>if you if if the penalties start to be a problem,

1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:54.320
<v Speaker 1>we'll adjust to it and I'll pay the fines. So

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<v Speaker 1>that that was open season for the for the Raiders

1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to be the Raiders, and they were. They were a

1:01:59.760 --> 1:02:03.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive team that would would definitely would definitely try to

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:07.960
<v Speaker 1>dominate you, and uh uh they back it up. Jack Tatum.

1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>When Jack Tatum hits you as a safety, felt like

1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a two hundred and fifty pound linebacker was putting the

1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:18.600
<v Speaker 1>hammer down on you. He was you know, he was

1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:21.720
<v Speaker 1>a son of a gun boy. He could play. There's

1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:24.040
<v Speaker 1>no question about it though. Those are some of the

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.840
<v Speaker 1>teams and guys that you know that that that come

1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to my mind. Those three, um you know, obviously the

1:02:32.680 --> 1:02:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland moved to Baltimore and the Baltimore Ravens. Think of

1:02:35.240 --> 1:02:39.400
<v Speaker 1>all the all the punishing players that Baltimore Raven defensive

1:02:39.400 --> 1:02:42.760
<v Speaker 1>football teams have had, you know, from it starts with

1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the Goose up front, Tony Siragusa, Ray Lewis at the

1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:49.560
<v Speaker 1>linebacker position, all the great linebackers they had, they had

1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:53.560
<v Speaker 1>tremendous players in the back end. I mean that, that's

1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that's franchise. Baltimore has a history of of mean minded

1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:01.800
<v Speaker 1>defensive football player. There's no doubt about it. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is good because your Mount Rushmore has four teams

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<v Speaker 1>featuring guys that went beyond the line of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. I picked out four individuals that stand

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<v Speaker 1>out as my villains, my hated opponents. Big Ben Roethlisberger

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<v Speaker 1>dominated the Bengals for eighteen years, twenty six and ten

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<v Speaker 1>against Cincinnati, including two playoff wins at Paul Brown Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and four at Paul Brown Stadium, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bengals beat him his last three times, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was twenty six and seven before losing his last

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<v Speaker 1>three head to head games against Cincinnati. I've got Chemo

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<v Speaker 1>von Olhoffen. I don't think it was a cheap shot

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<v Speaker 1>to Carson Palmer. I think he just got rolled into

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<v Speaker 1>his lower leg unfortunately, but that injury changed the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>of the franchise, as Paul Docherty from The Enquirer often

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<v Speaker 1>refers to him, Chemo von axe Murderer, just because of

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<v Speaker 1>the result of that hit. I've got another Steeler. Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Porter came on onto the field and the twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game that led to the Adam Jones penalty and

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<v Speaker 1>the Joey Porter rule where assistant coaches can no longer

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<v Speaker 1>come onto the field when players are injured. He also

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<v Speaker 1>jumped Leavy Jones at a casino in Las Vegas before that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've got him on the list. And then I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a guy that I like personally, but I put

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<v Speaker 1>him on Mount Rushmore just because of what his success

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<v Speaker 1>meant to Bengal's history. And that's Joe Montana one of

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<v Speaker 1>the two Super Bowls six and Ozho and the six

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<v Speaker 1>games he started against Cincinnati. So those four guys make

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<v Speaker 1>up my Mount Rushmore of villain slash hated opponents. Next

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Rushmore category interview subjects. These are guys that we've

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed interviewing or think we're great interviews over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Who comes to mind for you? Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Andrew Worth, you know, is a guy that is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very high on that list for all the reasons we've

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about, um, you know, not only his football

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<v Speaker 1>acumen in his in his football understanding of the game

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<v Speaker 1>and opponents and all that sort of things the XS knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything else in life. You know, he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys that just has um a lot to say

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<v Speaker 1>and says it extremely well. You know. I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>probably Boomersiasen is as good an interview as a player

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<v Speaker 1>as you could possibly hope to have, and that led

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<v Speaker 1>to a career in the broadcast world. It's been dynamic,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least. You could always kind of Boomers

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<v Speaker 1>sias and never shirked his responsibility, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what made him a great leader as well. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, boy, that game didn't go well and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play well, but I'm not going to adduct the media.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get up and face the music and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna answer questions. And he always did. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he garnered a tremendous amount of respect from everybody, not

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<v Speaker 1>just as teammates, but the media, the city, the region,

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<v Speaker 1>every everybody. UM. And uh, you know, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's big Chris Collinsworth same way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously great stories, funny guy. Um. And another

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<v Speaker 1>one who understood the role of the media had in

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<v Speaker 1>the success and popularity of the National Football League. As

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<v Speaker 1>a player, understood the significance of of of adding two

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<v Speaker 1>instead of you know, subtracting from or minimizing coverage, always

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<v Speaker 1>added two coverage, always gave something more to the media

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<v Speaker 1>than the than the average player would you know, would

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<v Speaker 1>go a little bit deeper. So and again that led

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<v Speaker 1>to a phenomenal career in the broadcast world as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I think, uh, those three guys are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably my my first three, Um, a fourth boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably probably have to go with a defensive player,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody, I think I just had offensive players at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, huh, A defensive player From a from a

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<v Speaker 1>media standpoint, I'd have to say Solomon Wilcot's for the

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<v Speaker 1>same reason. I mean, Sally. You go to Sally after

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<v Speaker 1>a game and he could tell you the wise and

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<v Speaker 1>wherefores of everything, Why things worked, why they didn't, adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>that were made, adjustments that should have been made. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>same plays that were made, plays that shouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't have been made. So Solomon Wilcot's keen understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the game of football, but not just again, not

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<v Speaker 1>just x's and os, but applying it to all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that the game of football and the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League is extremely popular for a reason, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he added to that and he still does to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>So he understood that dynamic as a player, and he

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<v Speaker 1>understands that dynamic as a you know, in the broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>world as well. And it is quite remarkable how many

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<v Speaker 1>guys have gone from player to broadcast in from the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Banals, it really is. And Bob Trumpy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was the original and another great example of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's I mean, Trump was the media battled to get

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<v Speaker 1>in front of his locker, you know, after a game

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day because Trump was drunk. He pulled

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<v Speaker 1>no punches, no holds barred man. He put it out

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<v Speaker 1>there and it led to sports talk, the godfather of

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<v Speaker 1>sports talk here in the city of Cincinnati, into a

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame broadcast career covering the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>And of that list that you just gave with Boomer Collinsworth, Wilcots,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew Whitworth. If whit wants to get into broadcasting,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be a superstar too. My interview list includes two

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<v Speaker 1>of the four that you mentioned. I've got wit on

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<v Speaker 1>the list. Articulate, thoughtful, he always tautes something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of those guys you talk in for five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and at the end of it you're like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that. That's great. I've got Chris Collinsworth

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<v Speaker 1>on there again, smart, colorful, honest, just great as a

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<v Speaker 1>player and great. Now I've got Frank Pollock on my list.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy his news conferences. They're colorful, they're interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I've enjoyed the one on one conversations that I've had

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I did that fun Facts last year where

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<v Speaker 1>I just gave him like former teammates that he played,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had a great story about everybody really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my fourth, which might surprise some people, is

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Jones because totally unfiltered, impossible of BS sometimes got

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<v Speaker 1>himself into trouble with some of the things he said,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've always said that I thought that Andrew Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Jones brother was a tremendous interview subject. Final Mount Rushmore category,

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<v Speaker 1>our Mount Rushmore of what ifs in Bengals history. You're

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<v Speaker 1>nodding your head. These are probably going to be some

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<v Speaker 1>wistful moments of things that, had they gone slightly differently,

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals history would have changed for the better. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you know, I'm going to reverse a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the painful moments, you know, I mean, you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>if what if? What if one mental error didn't occur

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<v Speaker 1>in the four play sequence of the goal line stand

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<v Speaker 1>in Super Bowl sixteen up in Pontiac, Michigan, and Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>had scored a touchdown? What if? I mean, would that

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<v Speaker 1>football game have ultimately changed? Would the outcome have been different?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, but would have had a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better chance. There's no question about it. What if

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis Billips had squeezed the interception in Super Bowl twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's game over, you know at

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<v Speaker 1>that point if he holds onto that football, God rest

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<v Speaker 1>his soul. He didn't, Um, you know that. I think that, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that might have had a different outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>If Tim Crumbright doesn't shatter his leg, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>that football game, might have had a different outcome. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What if the Bengals offensive line were capable of providing

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<v Speaker 1>better protection for Joe Burrow in Super Bowl fifty six,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the second half of that football game. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that that that last game, of that last play, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just mind boggling to me when I look back on it,

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<v Speaker 1>because they had the perfect call, the slide protection double team.

1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald was handled improperly from a technique standpoint, allowed

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<v Speaker 1>him to win outside and uh and he affected the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And he affected the second half of that football game

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<v Speaker 1>way way too much. There's there's uh, there's no question

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I'd say that, uh, you know, reversing

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<v Speaker 1>reversing some of the uh, the order of the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl outcomes. I think I think would be a would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good starting point, all right, my Bengals mount

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<v Speaker 1>rushmore of what ifs. I'll go back to something that

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<v Speaker 1>I covered earlier. What if Greg Cook didn't get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>or if rotator cuffs were repaired then like they are now,

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<v Speaker 1>you would probably have a couple of Super Bowl rings.

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<v Speaker 1>And what where would Kenny Anderson have been? Where would

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<v Speaker 1>his NFL career have been? If Greg Cook had not

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<v Speaker 1>been injured, there would have been no Kan Anderson here

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnatis. That would have been a huge what if

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<v Speaker 1>because it would have changed the history of the franchise dramatically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from a player perspective, a player standpoint, I

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<v Speaker 1>also have what if Jeremy Hill didn't fumble? Marvin Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have that stigma of no playoff wins? He would

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<v Speaker 1>have had his first. Could the Bengals have gone to

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<v Speaker 1>New England the next week with a J. McCarron at

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and defeated the Patriots. Probably not. It probably just

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<v Speaker 1>would have been one playoff win. But still it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>nice for Marvin dab One. Yeah, would it? Would? It

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<v Speaker 1>would have you know, gotten that just on a monkey

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<v Speaker 1>that's a five hundred pound gorilla, you know, on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>And with Bill Belichick coaching a J. McCarron would have

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<v Speaker 1>been challenged, There's no question about it. The entire football

1:13:14.479 --> 1:13:17.760
<v Speaker 1>team offense would have been challenged. Bill Belichick's as good

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<v Speaker 1>as there is when you get to the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>changing game plans and adjustments, and he's the wizard, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's one that you can speak to. What if Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Brown did not retire in nineteen seventy five Bengals were

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and three. You were on the team his final year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best winning percentage they've ever had in a season.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sixty seven years old, so he was getting

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<v Speaker 1>up there. But Bill Belichick is sixty nine right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll is seventy. Guys are doing it nowadays at

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<v Speaker 1>that age. What would have happened if Paul decided to

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<v Speaker 1>stick it out for a few more years. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a really good what if because back then

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<v Speaker 1>coaches didn't coach, you know, into their seventies and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know Paul, I think Paul was a believer in

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<v Speaker 1>you get to a certain age it's time to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>A player gets to a certain stage of his career,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to think about that player, you know, moving

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<v Speaker 1>on or retiring or trading or whatever. It wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>he was incapable. He was still sharp his attack mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nothing had slipped in that regard. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I was pretty surprised because we were pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eleven and three record, and two of the

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<v Speaker 1>losses to the eventual Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers, both

1:14:35.320 --> 1:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of them within range, I mean within a touchdown each

1:14:38.960 --> 1:14:41.559
<v Speaker 1>time one score games. It's not like we were being

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<v Speaker 1>man handled and lost to the Raiders. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was that year as well, who were pretty good football team.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's a that's a great what if. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt about it. I think part of it

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<v Speaker 1>too was Bill Johnson had already turned down coach head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching opportunit unities. I noted the forty nine Ers for

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<v Speaker 1>one opportunity that came up as the great former All

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<v Speaker 1>Pro center there. They wanted him to come back and

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<v Speaker 1>be the head coach. He'd proven himself as an assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>Need he said no, Paul's told me I'm the guy

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<v Speaker 1>when he steps down. I liked the potential opportunity here,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, because I mean the following year we went

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<v Speaker 1>ten and four, still had a really good football team,

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<v Speaker 1>ten and four and didn't make the playoffs. Ten and

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<v Speaker 1>four record the Oilers, you know, we got the additional

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<v Speaker 1>wild card spot. Steelers won the division. Oilers got the

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<v Speaker 1>wild card. With the ten and four mark, we sat brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, my final, my fourth and final what if

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<v Speaker 1>on my Mount rushmore of what ifs? What if? In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen ninety nine draft, Brown select him Couch number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles take Donovan McNabb number two. Now the Bengals around

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<v Speaker 1>the clock, Mike Ditka calls from the Saints offers all

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<v Speaker 1>of their nineteen ninety nine draft picks, six picks, including

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<v Speaker 1>number twelve overall, plus their first round pick in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and their third round pick in two thousands, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's eight draft picks for the number three overall spot.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals say thanks, but no thanks, and take Achille

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<v Speaker 1>Smith instead. Now, the Redskins eventually took the Saints offer,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't become a powerhouse as a result, So

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<v Speaker 1>you still got to nail the draft picks. But Achille

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<v Speaker 1>Smith was, you know, such a disaster unfortunately that he

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<v Speaker 1>can't help. But wonder what would have happened if the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals had taken that offer from the Saints. Absolutely, and Bruce,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Costlet. I wonder what Bruce Costlet's thinking these days

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<v Speaker 1>if they he was the head coach at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I know that he would have made

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<v Speaker 1>the trade. There's no old question about it. He would

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<v Speaker 1>have made that trade. You definitely, it's it's a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>driver the league, even more so now than then, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was then as well. Um, But man, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of capital. That's a ton of capital. At some

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<v Speaker 1>point in time, the odds dictate that you're you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna find a quarterback or enough people around a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback that is capable to make me even play at

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<v Speaker 1>a higher level. I mean, that's one that if history,

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<v Speaker 1>if you could go back in history and change it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you might want to think about that possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you an unbelievable nugget that occurred

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<v Speaker 1>to me as I was coming up with my what

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<v Speaker 1>ifs in Bengal's history. That draft was one draft before

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots selected Tom Brady. A Keiley Smith is only

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<v Speaker 1>two years older than Tom Brady. How about that? That crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>That is crazy? That is crazy. The one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>every time I start thinking about drafts. The nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four Pittsburgh Steel the drafts five Hall of famers and

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<v Speaker 1>one of them wasn't even drafted. Donnie Shell seventeen rounds

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft in nineteen seventy four. Donnie Shell didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even get drafted in seventeen rounds. Science is a college

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<v Speaker 1>free agent and goes to the Hall of Fame. But

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted Lin Swan in the first round, Jack Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Lambert in the second round. Let's see, Mike Webster was

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in the in the fifth round. I think Stalworth

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<v Speaker 1>was drafting the fourth I believe. So four Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>famers in the first five rounds of the draft. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>about putting the bat in the ball in a draft?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? And then to get all time

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<v Speaker 1>great safety in the history of the National Football League

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<v Speaker 1>is a college free agent out of South Carolina State. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Cincinnati is the city of seven Hills. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of room for these mount Rashmars. We

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<v Speaker 1>can carve them into hill sides in the Cincinnati area

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<v Speaker 1>will be good. Yeah. Really, there's a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hills, a lot of hills that could could

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<v Speaker 1>support Mount Rushmore's Absolutely yeah, and it would. It would

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<v Speaker 1>keep a lot of sculptors busy for a while. That's

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