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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started

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Speaker 2: with the story of the week. We're gonna start off

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Speaker 2: the show by talking about this company called Human Microbes,

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Speaker 2: which is essentially the black market for poop. So why

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Speaker 2: don't you start off telling everybody why you might need

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Speaker 2: to go to the black market to buy poop. Well,

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Speaker 2: this has been, you know, a buzzword thing sent for

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Speaker 2: about ten years now, and it's because all this research

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Speaker 2: has been being done over the course of the last

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Speaker 2: decade or so about fecal transplants. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you guys have ever heard of that, but it started

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Speaker 2: off when people started there's been this increased risk of

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Speaker 2: infections in the high hospital called sea diff and what happens,

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Speaker 2: and you could get it if you're not in the

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Speaker 2: hospital as well. But what happens is when you give

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Speaker 2: antibiotics to a person if they have a respiratory infection

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Speaker 2: or something like that, or any kind of infection, what

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Speaker 2: could happen is that the antibiotics not only kill off

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Speaker 2: those bacteria that would be present in your respiratory infection,

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Speaker 2: but they could also kill the healthy bacteria in your intestine.

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Speaker 2: So there's always healthy bacteria in your colon that help

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Speaker 2: break down your poop and they aid with digestion. But

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Speaker 2: if they get killed off, then the bad bacteria, which

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Speaker 2: is called sea diff, can overgrow. And sea diff is

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Speaker 2: so so nasty. In fact, I've had two autopsies of

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Speaker 2: people who have died from sea diff infection, so it

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Speaker 2: could be really bad. And I've also gotten multiple colon's

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Speaker 2: toxic megacolons for surgical specimens for people that had a

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Speaker 2: sea diff infection. And any nurses listening know that the

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Speaker 2: poop has a very distinctive look and smell, and we

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Speaker 2: just want to make sure that people don't get this.

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Speaker 2: So what the research has shown is that if they

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Speaker 2: can get a transplant from a healthy person's poop, then

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Speaker 2: that could encourage their normal bacteria to regrow and it

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Speaker 2: could cure them better, because you don't want to give

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Speaker 2: the person more antibiotics, because antibiotics are great and they help,

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Speaker 2: but they also cause other problems. See if it's one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest examples. So they do fecal transplants now

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Speaker 2: if we're in the hospital, it's done in the hospital sometimes,

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Speaker 2: so you could do it in all sorts of different ways.

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Speaker 2: They can, but they usually deliver it with a colonoscopy

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Speaker 2: because the first thing you think is like, I'm not

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Speaker 2: eating someone else's poop, right, But so they put it,

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Speaker 2: they go up and do a colonoscopy, and when they're

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Speaker 2: up there, they kind of like shoot up a solution

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Speaker 2: of someone else's poop from a donor. And they could

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Speaker 2: also do it with an enema, or you could. They

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Speaker 2: do have a pill now that you could take. That's

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Speaker 2: that's like freeze dried capsule kind of poop. That's the

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Speaker 2: live bacteria that you would take. But this is all

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Speaker 2: under a doctor's care. So to think that people were

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Speaker 2: buying it off the black market and just do it

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Speaker 2: buying it from the guy who owns the company that

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Speaker 2: isn't even FDA approved or any kind of medical person

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Speaker 2: is kind of alarming. Yeah, So this guy started this

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Speaker 2: business back in twenty twenty. His name's Michael Harrap. According

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Speaker 2: to this article we're referencing, he is a pretty questionable background.

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Speaker 2: He has no background in medicine whatsoever, and he only

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Speaker 2: found out about this procedure after having serious issues with

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Speaker 2: his own health and seeing it on online or hearing

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Speaker 2: about it on online forums. So he actually doesn't handle

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Speaker 2: the poop himself. Instead, he contracts these donors and you know,

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Speaker 2: they have to go through a whole questionnaire and everything

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Speaker 2: and then once they've been approved, they are responsible for

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Speaker 2: shipping it directly to whoever the buyer is, which these

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Speaker 2: is kind of nuts, right, Yeah. I mean I feel

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Speaker 2: so I can make some extra cas. So this guy

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Speaker 2: is acting as this like internet pop broker, and there's

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Speaker 2: no it's very legally questionable and there's no like FDA

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Speaker 2: He is a woop pimp. So he himself has said

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Speaker 2: he has not found success with this at all, but

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Speaker 2: he does have very happy customers. Well, there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of studies done that not only obviously that this

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Speaker 2: of an autoimmune disease doing a fecal transplant. And this

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Speaker 2: pathologist and she knew all about this upcoming research. I

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Speaker 2: thought that was with her own though, like she sent

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Speaker 2: shown to it could help anything from obesity to autism

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Speaker 2: to autoimmune disorders. And because your bow your bowel health

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Speaker 2: with the leaky gut syndrome, which we've talked about before,

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Speaker 2: and so you want your gut health to be really

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Speaker 2: healthy and this is one way to do it. But

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Speaker 2: there's nothing currently FDA approved to do these fecal transplants

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Speaker 2: besides for cedf infections. So people are just trying it

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Speaker 2: on their own. And you could kind of see that

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Speaker 2: some people get desperate and they want to try something

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Speaker 2: that's more natural. Of course, the thing to be concerned

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Speaker 2: the hospital, they check the donors to make sure they

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Speaker 2: And you don't really know what's going on when you're

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Speaker 2: buying from a poop pimp, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and there what was funny in this article was there

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Speaker 2: and it was saying they should make this like batter

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Speaker 2: like icing into the capsule. And you just have to

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Speaker 2: wonder if this is being done appropriately, if bacteria is

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Speaker 2: of course doctors are urging people to go through legitimate outlets.

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Speaker 2: let's get into some celebrity news. So Morgan Spurlock, director

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Speaker 2: All right, so of course the first thing I thought

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Speaker 2: him having liver increased liver enzymes at least, and he

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Speaker 2: bad publicity for sure. We watched it. This came out

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Speaker 2: totally all right. Next story, So, Charlie Colin, who is

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Speaker 2: video of her two year old son on a ferris

431
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: wheel when he's so cutely said the door's open. It's

432
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: she said. She pulled him away from the door and

433
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: held him on the other side of the pod so

434
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: he wouldn't fall out, But she had to hold the

435
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: door to this ferris wheel pod shut for the whole

436
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: fifteen minute ride. All right, again, this was when I

437
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: read this. The first thing I thought was like, Okay,

438
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: but you took a picture of this to show people online. Yeah, like,

439
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but like, if that happened, the last thing

440
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: that you would do would be to take a picture

441
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: of your two year old sitting next to an open

442
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: door just to capture No, no, no, the video. The picture

443
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: wasn't of the kid next to the open Door's proof.

444
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: She was taking a video of him to like just

445
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: have a cute video of him riding the ferris wheel.

446
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: And he said the door's open, and then she put

447
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: the phone down immediately. She did take a picture of

448
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 2: the door open later, of just the door open, And

449
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: I think that was for documentation purposes. Yeah, I don't. Yeah,

450
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: Like I just think that the phone it is getting

451
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: out of control. Well, I think everybody's living in this

452
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: lawsuit mentality, Like I don't think My first thought, well,

453
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like because of thinking, because

454
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: of covering these stories so often where all this stuff

455
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: goes wrong and just really quick as a result of

456
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: this year, reported it and the people were like, what

457
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: do you want us to do about it? Basically, and

458
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: you know, nothing happened. I think people just get in

459
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: the mindset of like, I need evidence, so I'm going

460
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 2: to take a picture. Yeah, And I don't think I

461
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: mean honestly, like, I don't really think that that's that

462
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 2: big of a deal if that was open, because I

463
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: feel like there's some that are just open all the

464
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: time because it's not a ride that you should you know,

465
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: like you go on a gondola and it has that

466
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: little thing over your lap. Sometimes they don't even have

467
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: them because they're just one of those rides that if

468
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: you just sit still, you're not gonna fall out of it. Well,

469
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: I think same with the Ferris Wheel. I think they

470
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: just like I think a simple solution is just to

471
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 2: put a note on it that says this one's out

472
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: of order. It's like, oh yeah, pretty, it's pretty basic.

473
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: You know. I assume a fair has a printer somewhere

474
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: on premises, just print out a sign that says out

475
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 2: of order on that pod and then go on with

476
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: it just to or like a marker, yeah, just to

477
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: minimize and a napkin, just to minimize the liability risk,

478
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 2: but like to say, I'm not gonna do anything about it.

479
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: So then she goes to TikTok, you know, which, to

480
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: bring awareness of this whatever. But I think people are

481
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: just living in this mindset constantly now because of all

482
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: these stories, like I need evidence when something bad happens

483
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: to me, and I'm gonna blow up your spot on

484
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: the internet if you don't handle it the right way. Yeah,

485
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: So this next story is what you were referencing earlier.

486
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: So in Mexico, five women were in a really bad

487
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: car accident that overturned the vehicle and shockingly, two of

488
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: them crawled out of the overturned car, bleeding everywhere, and

489
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: then they decided to take a selfie together. I don't

490
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: know what is going on with the selfie situation. Like

491
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: we were at the Phillies game last week and my

492
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: husband and I were sitting on the edge of like

493
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: our group, and this girl that was sitting in front

494
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: of us, she was my age, and she sat there

495
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: and took at least ten selfies of herself and we

496
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: were in the background, like against our will. But I

497
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: just kept thinking, like, what is this girl doing? Why

498
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: does she? I think? So weird to me, taking selfies

499
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: at a ballpark is different than taking them after a

500
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: horrific car accident, Like she might just want a memory

501
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: of her being at this game. I understand to you

502
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: it was an obnoxious trait, But to see somebody crawling

503
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: out of an overturned vehicle covered in blood, one of

504
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: them couldn't even walk by herself. Just to be taking

505
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of like not like pictures of their injuries,

506
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 2: like legit selfies with one another is crazy. I agree

507
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: that it's not the same, but the whole mentality of

508
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: just like I have to keep taking pictures of myself,

509
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: it's just freaking weird to me. If people want to

510
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: take pictures of themselves, let them take picture of themselves.

511
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: It literally doesn't. But like this is this is a

512
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: very odd behavior to, you know, be in a potentially

513
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: life threatening situation and immediately take pictures. The other three

514
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: people weren't even out of the car yet. So yeah,

515
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: and it's something that we see in the gross room

516
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: all the time with the emissions. We get. It's just

517
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: there's there's this certain level of like, oh, let me

518
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: either take a picture of myself or let me take

519
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: out my camera and video it before the human aspect

520
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: of like oh my god, are those people okay? Let

521
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: me help them, Let me see if I could do

522
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: something to stop this or whatever people are living now

523
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: to go viral on TikTok. It's just it's insane. Yeah,

524
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: all right. So the next story in the UK in

525
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, a man had hernia surgery. So after the procedure,

526
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: his surgeon was driving home realized he left a specimen

527
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: bag and part of the man's bow that had been

528
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: cut out during the surgery inside of the patient. Turn

529
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: the car around, wait to the guy is he's waking

530
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: up from his anesthesia and says, sorry, you gotta go

531
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: back into surgery so I could take these things out.

532
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: So all these years later, this patient has said, quote,

533
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: there's no doubt whatsoever that I'm suffering. It affected me.

534
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: I have a weak abdomen now I can't really lift

535
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: anything heavy. So it led to an investigation and eventually

536
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, they gave the patient fifteen thousand pounds

537
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: as an apology, which is that really enough? No, But

538
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: this is when I was talking about this with my

539
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: friend yesterday. There's these things like lawsuits in the hospital,

540
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like, if you don't die or

541
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: get seriously injured and debilitated for life, your lawsuit is

542
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: kind of just not gonna work. And that's how hospitals

543
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: unfortunately get away with like treating patients like total craps sometimes.

544
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: And I think you could talk to any single person,

545
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, especially women that have given birth, and be like,

546
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: what was your experience here at the hospital, and you

547
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: would have more people then not say how they were

548
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: mistreated or mishandled or they didn't have a positive experience.

549
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: And it's little things like this, like this guy, he

550
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: didn't even go home yet, he didn't die, he didn't

551
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: get sick, he didn't become septic. They had to put

552
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: him under anesthesia again and open up an incision that

553
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: was brand new, so it's not like they had to

554
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: even cut him again. So I'm like, I guess it's

555
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: terribly it's malpractice at its best and everything like that,

556
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: but ultimately, like he's alive, he's fine. I don't I

557
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: understand that he's saying he has abdominal pain and stuff.

558
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: But I feel like he would have had that anyway

559
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: because he had the surgery done. Any person that had

560
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: this done, I think he had a hernia surgery. And

561
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: sometimes when you have a hernia, which is like an

562
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: opening in your abdominal wall, sometimes a piece of your

563
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: bow could get stuck in that opening and it could

564
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: squeeze off your ballots, called an incarcerated hernia. So when

565
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: they go in to close the abdominal wa hernia, they

566
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: also go in and clip a little piece of the

567
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: ball out because sometimes it could die off the piece

568
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: that gets stuck in there. And I don't know about

569
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: you read, but I've had this happen like especially when

570
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: I was at the hospital working, I would we had

571
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: these cassettes that we had to put on the machine

572
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: overnight every single night, so that was all the work

573
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: that we caught all day. We would put in these

574
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: little cassettes and we would sit them on our desk,

575
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: and at the end of the night we had to

576
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: put them on the machine so the next morning the

577
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: histotechs could cut it and make slides. Well, you know,

578
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: you're running around and you're such a crazy person at

579
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: work all day and you stay an hour late and

580
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: I would be driving home. It always never failed that

581
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: it happened like on a Friday night or something when

582
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to be done with work and I would

583
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 2: just be sitting there eating dinner or something and then

584
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, I forgot to put the

585
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: cassettes on the machine, and I'd have to go back

586
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: to the hospital. First. I would call someone and pray

587
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: that someone was still there or that never have but

588
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: you know, drive back to the hospital and put them on,

589
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: because it would completely like screw up the next day

590
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: of work for people. And I guess this is what

591
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: happened to this surgeon that he was driving home and

592
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: he was like, holy shit, Like I leaned that down

593
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: in the guy's stomach and I never took it out

594
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: before I sewed him up kind of thing. I mean,

595
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: my I've never done anything that serious. I've definitely gotten

596
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: home from work or woken up in the middle of

597
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: the night and been like, I never brought ketchup to

598
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: table thirteen, would they? Well, you see how it happens, though,

599
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: right when you're frazzled. Yeah, I know, of course how

600
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: it happens. But I feel like with a team of

601
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: surgeons and everything, it's like nobody's just going in there

602
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: and double check it. Like I don't know, yeah, And

603
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: I think when you take the piece of bow out normally,

604
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't even understand why it would ever go into

605
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: the body, Like I would feel like, you take it out,

606
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: you put it in a bag, you put it on

607
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: the counter. But maybe he took it out, put in

608
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: a bag and like leaned it down next to his

609
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: hand to finish showing something up and just was like, oh,

610
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: I'll just grab this in a second, and then got

611
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: distracted did buy something. But yeah, there's there's all these checks.

612
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: This wasn't in America, right, No, it was in the UK,

613
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: and I don't I mean, obviously their medicine is pretty

614
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: equivalent to ours there, but I feel like here there's

615
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: a lot of checks, like we had this many tools

616
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: and now we still have this many tools. But again

617
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: that wouldn't count, like do we have the specimen in

618
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: the bag, But that would have gotten realized even in

619
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: a couple of days when the guy didn't send it

620
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: to pathology. Pathology never got it, and then they would

621
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: be like, well where is it? And that couldn't. I mean,

622
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: if that stayed inside the dude, it would have been

623
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: a huge, huge problem. But I mean, it sucks that

624
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: you have to go back under anesthesia, get your staples

625
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: or whatever opened up, to go back in and take

626
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: it out. But that that incision was already there, you

627
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean, It wasn't healed at all. They

628
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: just kind of cut the staples off put them back on. Yeah,

629
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean, and as we see with other hospital malpractice stories,

630
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: despite many concerns by his coworkers and upper management, this

631
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: guy stayed working in this hospital system four years, and

632
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, four whistleblowers told BBC that multiple

633
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: patients had died while others were quote effectively maimed. And

634
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: the whistleblowers also complained of a mafia like management culture

635
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: in this hospital network. So that's not really surprising to

636
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: me that, you know, they had this issue and then

637
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: had the investigation, and then it turned out there was

638
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: much larger problems going on. Yeah. The scary part is

639
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: as a patient is that you would just never know

640
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: that this stuff was happening. I mean, you go to

641
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: your doctor, let's say you just have a hernia. You

642
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: go I mean, now it's a little better with the

643
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: Internet and stuff because you could really look up reviews

644
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: and it comes to light a little bit more than

645
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Speaker 2: it used to, because how would you ever know before

646
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: the internet, you know. Yeah, but even like so in

647
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: the gross room this week, our high profile dissection was

648
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: about the Bad Surgeon documentary on Netflix with doctor pell mccarini,

649
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: And you know, even in my research, I just covered

650
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: that people knew his patients were dying, but they were

651
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: just attributing it to like, well, he's trying this experimental thing,

652
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: he's a super surgeon and all this, and it just

653
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: it turns out he had like no research, really exaggerated

654
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Speaker 2: medical background, and they were just letting this go on

655
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Speaker 2: for years and years and years until all these people

656
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Speaker 2: died under his care. Right, So it's just really hard

657
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: to trust the system. And one family even found him

658
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: through an interview Diane Sawyer did with like saying he

659
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: was like this amazing person and all this stuff. So

660
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: if reviews aren't always everything as well, it just really

661
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: sucks that there's just lack of trust you kind of

662
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: have to have in the system and you have to

663
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Speaker 2: do all your own research before making a decision. Like this. Yeah,

664
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Speaker 2: And I mean you've seen them do that with other

665
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: doctors in the news too, like lifting them up on

666
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: this thing, and you're like, you don't even know the

667
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: half of what goes on behind the scenes, so don't

668
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: be like propping these people, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.

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688
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Speaker 2: con Let's get into some violent crimes. So last Thursday

689
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: in Fort Wayne, Indiana, a twenty year old went live

690
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: on Facebook from a Kroger's bathroom, telling viewers he was

691
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Speaker 2: trying to kill eleven people. So he entered the regular

692
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: part of the grocery store and started asking his viewers

693
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Speaker 2: who he should kill, all while showing his gun off

694
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Speaker 2: on the Facebook Live. Somebody had said this old man

695
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: in front of him, and he said, I'm not killing

696
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: this old guy. So as he approached the bakery section,

697
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: he was seen lifting his gun and shooting at an

698
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Speaker 2: employee and two customers. He then fled the scene, went

699
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: directly into a bank across the street, and police quickly

700
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: obtained him after that. Could we just have a ban

701
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 2: on Facebook Live? I know we've talked about so many

702
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: stories where there. Why do we need it to exist

703
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: in the world? What is the positive like to I

704
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: don't even know, because like who whoever's doing Facebook Live? Like,

705
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: how is it bringing joy to our life that we

706
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: cannot live without? I feel like during COVID it was

707
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: most utilized, I mean, used to do Instagram lives as

708
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: a way to do Q and as and connect with

709
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: people and everything, but they've just kind of fallen off.

710
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: All we've seen lately is these horrible negative stories associated

711
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: with Facebook Live. It just it doesn't need to exist.

712
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it was nice during the pandemic, but still

713
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: if it didn't existed, like everybody would be fine. It

714
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: just we can name a handful of stories that we

715
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: know that happened in this way. And I also want

716
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: to know are they investigating the person that responded and

717
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: said shoot that old guy? Yeah exactly, That's that was

718
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: my first thought too. I think it's really scary that,

719
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Speaker 2: like I'm wondering did the police get there after the gunshots?

720
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: Or somebody watching the live and called the police? Right?

721
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: Are people that are watching these things engaging and calling

722
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Speaker 2: alerting authorities that it's going on, or they're just kind

723
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: of like, oh, let me see what happened. And the

724
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 2: algorithm for Instagram and Facebook could pick up every single

725
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: little thing. They can't pick up when somebody has a

726
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: gun in the video. Really, I just want to know

727
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: because they can, I mean I see special effects makeup

728
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: artists that are having their things blocked because it looks

729
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: like a real wound or something like that. You mean

730
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: to tell me that that can't pick up someone holding

731
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Speaker 2: a gun. I mean, I think last week we even

732
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: talked about a kitchen knife company has been effectively banned

733
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: for selling homemade kitchen knives. Yeah, it's completely ridiculous how

734
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: their thing is picking up stuff. It cut between the

735
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: actual gun in the video and the stuff that that

736
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: guy was saying that none of that got picked up. Yeah,

737
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: so it's just such bullshit. So police eventually found his

738
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: gun phone, and whilet in a dumpster at a nearby store,

739
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: he told police he didn't want to shoot any old

740
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Speaker 2: people and chose to shoot at the three he did

741
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: because they were just standing there with no cover. And

742
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: then he said, quote, he always wanted to kill somebody. Yeah,

743
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: there's really a lack of just humanity with some people,

744
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: and it's increasing that there's just this lack of respect

745
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: for life. Yeah, there really is. So thankfully none of

746
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Speaker 2: these people died. Yeah, he didn't kill anybody as a

747
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: result of this, So that's the best possible situation out

748
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: of this. And he's facing three counts of attempted murder

749
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: and one count of criminal recklessness, So the maximum for

750
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Speaker 2: all of those would be one hundred and twenty six

751
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: years in prison, which I think we all know. He

752
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: is definitely a harm to society and hopefully justice is

753
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: served in this case. Yeah, and just because people don't die,

754
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: I mean, getting shot could really even if it's a

755
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: simple thing in your leg that wasn't really considered life threatening,

756
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: it could have broke your bone though, and you can

757
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: be having surgeries and problems walking for the rest of

758
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: your life for that. So it's all because like this

759
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: guy felt like killing someone. Like how weird and disturbing

760
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: is that? Yeah, And it's it's just yeah, it's it's

761
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: not even if people are died or not, like you said,

762
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: it's the trauma of getting shot. It's the trauma of

763
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: all the bystanders in the store, you know, just doing

764
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: a basic task of grocery shopping and just trying to

765
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: have a normal day, and then this person that's just

766
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: not okay comes in the store and he's, you know,

767
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: streaming this entire thing on the internet. It's incredibly disturbing.

768
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: It's the more disturbing part is that the people were responding,

769
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: That's that's really what saddens me the most, that even

770
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: one person, because you're always gonna have a crazy person, right,

771
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: and but when when there's another person that's just like yeah,

772
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: like how could Like it's so scary that you're surrounded

773
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 2: by people that really are just that disconnected from human

774
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: life like that. It's it's scary. Yeah, really, this is

775
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: really scary story. It could happen at any grocery store,

776
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: and it's horrible we have to report things like this. Well,

777
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: speaking of crazy people, let's talk about another case this week. God,

778
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: this one made me want to throw up when I

779
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: was reading it. So outside of Boston, a woman took

780
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: her three daughters and their friend to see the movie

781
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: If at a theater. This guy snuck up behind them

782
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: in the row they were the only people in the

783
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: theater and started stabbing the girls. So this guy was

784
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: twenty six twenty six years old. He quickly left a scene,

785
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: then went to a McDonald's thirty miles away from where

786
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: he stabbed the girls and stabbed an employee through the

787
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: drive through window, then parked the car and then went

788
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: inside and then stabbed another person. Well, this is just

789
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: proof that we always talk about shooting spreeze, and of

790
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: course they're terrible, and the gun situation is terrible, but

791
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing that we've talked about

792
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: for over the past couple of weeks. There's been multiple

793
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: situations of people killing a lot of people in one

794
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: sitting with a knife as well. And clearly, if this

795
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: guy knew what he was doing, it could have been

796
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: it could have been worse, honestly, if he knew from

797
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: an anatomic standpoint how to hurt someone worse. But luckily

798
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: he didn't hurt anyone worse. It just imagine like children

799
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: like having to heal from this, and yeah, none of

800
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: them had life threatening injuries, but like we're just talking about,

801
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. They were little kids. They got stabbed doing,

802
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, a fun activity going to the movies. That

803
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: the people at McDonald's were just going about their business

804
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: and got stabbed out of nowhere. Even though you don't

805
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: die from it and you might not have injuries for

806
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: the rest of your life related to this incident, how

807
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: are you not traumatized going out in public ever? Again,

808
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: I know, it's just it's just terrible to think, and

809
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: I think I've been in that area before. It's like

810
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: near Cape Cod and stuff. And it's just you would

811
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: think if being a mom dropping like having a kid's

812
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: from age nine to seventeen, you would feel comfortable leaving

813
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: them in a movie theater when nobody was even there

814
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: in the middle of the afternoon on a quiet, seemingly

815
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: quiet day. This is why, like it frightens me to

816
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: ever let the kids be alone, because you just never

817
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: know of something like this is gonna happen. Yeah, I mean,

818
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: this person just must have been going through crisis. So

819
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: like then after this whole stabbing spree, he ends up

820
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: on this police chase until he crashed his poorsch SUV.

821
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: And you know he's also suspected of murdering Connecticut as well.

822
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Just how is this happening? I don't know. But always

823
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: under this violent crime section, we always just have like

824
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: the most despictable humans in society. And this next woman

825
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: is also we could say asshole. One week, yeah exactly,

826
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: So a woman has been sentenced to nine years in

827
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: jail for manslaughter of her four year old daughter. So

828
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: in January of twenty twenty two, the toddler died from

829
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: complications related to diabetes and severe dental decay after her

830
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: mother all think, gave her bottles of baby formula mixed

831
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: with mountain dew. So she has this kid who's four

832
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: years old that has diabetes, and she has another child

833
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: that is also younger who is diagnosed with diabetes. And

834
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: you can get diabetes from eating a really a diet

835
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: that's high in processed foods and high in sugar that

836
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: you could induce it on children, right, So I don't

837
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: know if I mean, obviously there's like type one diabetes,

838
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: which is you're not in control of. I don't know

839
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: what type of diabetes that the kid had, but regardless,

840
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: it's like, how could you give a child that you

841
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: know is a diabetic mountain dew? Well, should the child

842
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: have also been having baby formula at four years old? No?

843
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: But I mean how long was she given? I think

844
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: that they were trying to imply that she was giving

845
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: the baby mountain dew for years because of the teeth

846
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: decay and everything. Yeah, it's just it's absolutely disgusting. So

847
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: they're saying the girl was malnourished and many of her

848
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: teeth had rotted away. I personally don't think like manslaughter

849
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: is the correct charge. I feel like this should be

850
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: a murder charge. Well yeah, I mean, she's not even

851
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: gonna get that much time for it. It's gross. I

852
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: understand manslaughter is like death related to negligence, but I

853
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: don't even like, I feel like this was intentional. Yeah,

854
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: like you don't if you know that your child has

855
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: a whole entire disease that's dedicated to sugar intake and

856
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: you're giving them sugar. It's kind of weird, it is.

857
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: So the father also pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter, and

858
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 2: he said to be sentenced in a couple of weeks.

859
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: But it's like, I just feel like these two people

860
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: are just getting off kind of easy for the death

861
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: of a poorness and child. I know, it's just disgusting.

862
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: All right, let's get started with some medical news. So

863
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: this family book the cruise to celebrate their mother's seventieth birthday,

864
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: and almost immediately after getting on board, were greeted by

865
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: a bedbug infestation, which got worse as the cruise progressed.

866
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: So I guess once you're on a cruise, you can't

867
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: get off. I don't. I am anti cruise, so yeah,

868
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: I don't ask me. There's just multiple reasons why I

869
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: would never have anything to do with that. Yeah, so

870
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: they said in the bathroom there was literally one crawling

871
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: on me. In the bed, I could feel things and

872
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: peeled back the sheets and that's when we saw quite

873
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: a number of bugs in the bed with us. So

874
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: then this person goes on to talk about how they

875
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: had a dress hanging in the closet and there was

876
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: bugs all over it and when they reported it to staff,

877
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: they didn't really seem concerned, and the cruise line said

878
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: that there was no evidence of a bedbug infestation when

879
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: they cleaned the room. So I don't, I don't know,

880
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: Like if I the second I saw a bug, I

881
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: would not be staying in that room any longer. And

882
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: I just I don't. I don't know what went wrong

883
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: at the beginning here, right if you went right in

884
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: the room, wouldn't you not continue to unpack your stuff?

885
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, though, Like maybe it was

886
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: it took a while. I do want to start getting

887
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: in the habit of doing that. Like, fortunately, I've never

888
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: had a situation with an encounter with bedbugs, But a

889
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: lot of people say, like as soon as you get

890
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: to a hotel, you should just lift up the mattress

891
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: and check to see like if you cause you could

892
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: see them with your naked eye. They're pretty large, you

893
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: could see them. But they're terrible. They're like they're almost

894
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: like lice. Like it's like if it gets on your

895
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: clothes and then you put it in your suitcase, like

896
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: you could bring that shit home, and like it's it's

897
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: just terrible. They don't really carry diseases, but they're they're gross.

898
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gross to have bugs crawling on you

899
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: and they do bite you and feed off of you.

900
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: They suck the blood out of you, and it's just

901
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: like you can have an allergy to them too, which

902
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: can cause you to become extremely itchy, uncomfortable, have really

903
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: big welts all over your body. So it's just it's

904
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: just disgusting. And to encounter it on vacation in a

905
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: place where you would consider to be clean, like a

906
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: cruise ship, Like it's like a hotel basically. Yeah, it's

907
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: not like you're going to some gross place or anything.

908
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: It's I also feel like there's this association with cheap

909
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: motel hotels and bedbugs, and they could really be anywhere.

910
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 2: Remember we covered like I should have checked in Las

911
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Vegas at the Luxewur because that looked like the kind

912
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: of place that would have had one. Remember a couple

913
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: of years ago we covered that there was this mass

914
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: bedbug infestation in Paris, like it was everywhere. So I

915
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: feel like there's always this strict association with like quote

916
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: unquote dirty motels and bedbugs. But they like this seemed

917
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: like a nicer cruise liner and they had them too.

918
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I feel like after I saw

919
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: one bug, I'd immediately have to remove myself from the situation.

920
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know the order that these things happened.

921
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: I just know they said it was pretty quick into

922
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: their journey, and yeah, and like, seriously, what are you

923
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: going to do on cruise be like f this, I'm

924
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: out of here, Like you can get another room, but

925
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: the chances are they're just going to be there too.

926
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, and they I think I read later in

927
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: the article they said that they had to completely unpack

928
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: everything on their front lawn and throw out most of

929
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: the clothes they brought because they didn't want to bring

930
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: in the house, Like bed bugs are probably the worst

931
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: thing you could ever get. Will I'm just saying, as

932
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: far as I'm saying, as far as being annoying bringing

933
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: into your house and having to get an exterminator, and

934
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: they're really hard to get rid of. And I mean

935
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 2: it's lice fleas. They're all up there with the same

936
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: kind of thing that just are very hard to get

937
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: rid of and their new total nuisance. I onto the

938
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: next story. So in twenty twenty two, a family got

939
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: together in South Dakota and eight kabobs of black bear

940
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: meat a family member had quote harvested in Canada. That

941
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: was my first question was, like, where are you getting

942
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: black bear meat right, because I do butchers do that.

943
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: I think Louis kill the deer once and he brought

944
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: it to a butcher and then they they gave him

945
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: the deer meat, which was disgusting, by the way, like

946
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: it's very I remember he brought it home and I

947
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: think Mom, Mom, like tried to put it on the

948
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: George Foreman grill that was like a thing back in

949
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: the day, and it smelled so bad. It didn't smell

950
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: like rotten. It just smelled like weird, like the weirdest

951
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: smell ever. And I wouldn't eat it. And then we

952
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: just cleaned the George forman grill, and we couldn't get

953
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: the smell away. We had to throw it out and

954
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: get a new one. Like the smell was just like

955
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: very distinct and disgusting. Like. But yeah, like I guess

956
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: you would say gamey or whatever. But I guess if

957
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: you kill a black bear, if you're illegally allowed to,

958
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: you could get it caught the same way that you

959
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: would with a deer. Yeah, I'm just very curious about that.

960
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: So anyway, they didn't have a meat thermometer, and initially

961
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: they had served it rare before they realized it wasn't

962
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: cooked all the way, and then they took it back

963
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: and cooked it the rest of the way. But days later,

964
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: pretty much everybody that ate it got really sick. Yeah,

965
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: so actually six people got sick. And of the six people,

966
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: four of them ate the meat and two of them

967
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: only had like veggie kebabs, but they had contamination from

968
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: the meat. Yeah, And they were having all these weird symptoms.

969
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: And they had a blood test that showed they had

970
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: high eesinophil. So eesinophils our cells they're white blood cells

971
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: that are present in your blood, but when they're really high,

972
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: that could be indicative of an allergic reaction or a

973
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: parasitic infection. So whenever a doctor sees something like that,

974
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: they're like, hm, what's going on. This is weird because

975
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: you don't normally have so many. And then when they

976
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: heard the story, they were like, Okay, this is what

977
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: it was. And the grossest part of the story is

978
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: that when they did you know, the epidemiology, and they

979
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: found out what the source was. The person had some

980
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: pieces of the meat left inside of their freezer and

981
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: they found the parasite organism that was called trick and

982
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: Ella nativa and it is a specific kind of worm

983
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: that does not respond to freezing, so it was still

984
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: alive and moving larvae away when they examine the meat.

985
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: Ew yes, is exactly. So I just saw this is like,

986
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: we don't even have this news story, but there was

987
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: some TikTok going viral of some girl that went to

988
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 2: Costco and bought frozen salmon and there was like lots

989
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: of parasitic worms in the salmon. Yeah, exactly, like and

990
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: I've seen that multiple times. I've seen people with not

991
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: even the frozen one, like the fresh filets that they

992
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: have in the fridge section at Costco. It's always Costco

993
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: that you could see like the little tiny worms like

994
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: squiggling around underneath of that saran wrapper that they have

995
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: on it, Like, uh so do you think that like

996
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: at Costco? Is that all fish related stories or is

997
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: that any meat? No? No, I've never heard of it

998
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: with me, and it's always salmon. That's the one that

999
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: I hear of all the time. And a lot of

1000
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: people were commenting under that particular post and just saying like,

1001
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: just cook it and it'll be fine kind of thing,

1002
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: which is why you should cook it all the way.

1003
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: I was surprised because when we went out to dinner

1004
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: with Breda and Bill the other day, they were talking

1005
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: about this salmon they had on the menu and they said, oh,

1006
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: it's served medium, Is that okay with you? And she

1007
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: was like, no, I want it well done, which is smart.

1008
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: I just I think it's weird because salmon could so

1009
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: commonly have parasites in it. That's interesting because I don't

1010
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: eat fish, so I don't know how it's prepared typically,

1011
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: but I never heard of salmon coming at a certain

1012
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: temperature me neither. I always thought that that was like

1013
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: one of those ones. It's like pork, like you always

1014
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: cook it all the way. We were at this restaurant

1015
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: in South Philly one time and the waitress, who is

1016
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: like this really old school South Philly Italian lady, asked

1017
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: Ricky if he wanted his pork chop medium rare, and

1018
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: he was like, no, I really don't, and it came

1019
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: out and it was not cooked all the way and

1020
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: it's just so disgusting. He was like, I don't weird, right, yeah.

1021
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: So but with like with like cal though, you're like, oh,

1022
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: it could be bleeding on the plate and you're fine,

1023
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Yeah. So well, that's also why stacking meat

1024
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 2: in the fridge is really important, because if juices drip

1025
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: onto other meats below, you need to make sure the

1026
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: ones getting the juices below are cooked at a higher

1027
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: temperature to kill that bacteria off. Yeah, that's so they

1028
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: always say you stack like beef than pork then chicken. Yeah,

1029
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: like beef at the top, pork in the middle, chicken

1030
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: at the bottom. So it's really important to just think

1031
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: about this. But this is pretty disgusting. I don't think

1032
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: I would ever eat bear meat, but I'm weird with

1033
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: textures and stuff, so I'm not really that willing to

1034
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: try new meats in general, do you know? So one

1035
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: time I went to you know how sometimes in Philly.

1036
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know what this event was for. I

1037
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: went years ago, but it was like there was like

1038
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: thirty different restaurants from Philly and you can go to

1039
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: each one of them and get this little tiny sample

1040
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: of something that they had and it was free. Okay,

1041
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: it was really cool. It was like in a convention

1042
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: center on on Broad Street, kind of near in between

1043
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: Hanuman and Temple, right, okay, And I went there and

1044
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: I went to this one and it was a Garse's restaurant.

1045
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm not sure which. I think there was one in

1046
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 2: the writing Terminal market or something. It was like one

1047
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: of those. It was like a deli type Garses restaurant. Anyway,

1048
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: it had this really delicious thing that it was like

1049
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: a beef thing and it had some mustard on it.

1050
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: It was so good and it was so tender, and

1051
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, like what was that

1052
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: that was so good? And they were like, oh, it's

1053
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: beef tongue. And I was like I literally never would

1054
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: have ate that, but since you didn't tell me, I

1055
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: thought it was great. I like you said, when Mama

1056
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: made the deer. Was it like a deer steak. I

1057
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: don't even know what it was. It just was the

1058
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: growth like smelled the house up. It just was so

1059
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: disgusting because I've had I've had a deer meat in

1060
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: like shepherd's pie and stuff, and when it's ground, I

1061
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: feel like it's it wasn't grounded. Yeah, I guess it

1062
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: was like a steak. I think these gamy meats when

1063
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: they're ground are definitely easier to eat, like like when

1064
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: you have like duck meat balls or duck com feet

1065
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: that treaded and stuff. It's easier than having like a

1066
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: big chunk of it. So I'm interested with the smell.

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Speaker 2: Was you ask her about it because she'll she'll tell you,

1068
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: I know, the story from our family, like disturbing. It's

1069
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: that was when I was like, I mean, I was

1070
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: like a teenager and I was just in my kick

1071
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: of like making my grilled chicken all the George Foreman

1072
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: girl every day, you know what I mean, Like, and

1073
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: I was like ew, And then I remember I cooked

1074
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: the chicken on there, and I was like, it still

1075
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: tastes like the deer. I mean, honestly, cooking a steak

1076
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: on the George Foreman, girl sounds disgusting. So I can't

1077
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: imagine cooking anything else. I was a teenager. It just was.

1078
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: It was easy. It was an easy meal. Next, a

1079
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: doctor wrote an article for the Daily Mail detailing how

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00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: a few years ago he intentionally infected himself with tapeworms

1081
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: to study what happened. So, I guess there's been some

1082
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: research that tapeworm infections could help with inflammation and autoimmune

1083
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: type things. So this doctor decided that he was going

1084
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: to give himself a tapeworm. And we've heard about this

1085
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: over the past like ten years, that people intentionally are

1086
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: ingesting tapeworms in order to lose weight. And so he

1087
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: traveled to Kenya and found an infected cal and gave

1088
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: himself a tapeworm. And one of the things that he

1089
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: wanted to say was that he didn't lose any weight.

1090
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: So that might be like a wives tale that you

1091
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: could lose weight from a parasite. But over the next

1092
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: eight weeks after he ingested this parasite did the tapeworms

1093
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: latched into his intestine and he was able. He did

1094
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: this under himself as a doctor, also did it under

1095
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: a doctor's order. So they monitored him and they did

1096
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: an endoscopy to see the worms in his abdomen, and

1097
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: he really got grossed out about that, so he decided

1098
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: to take medication to get rid of them right away.

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: It was just like a little too much to see.

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. So he doesn't recommend it, then, Yeah,

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00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't really know what he was

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00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: trying to get out of it, like if he was

1103
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: actually doing some kind of like legit research to see

1104
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 2: if it was changing anything, or if just he did

1105
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: it just to see what the experience was like. Because

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00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if they had properties to stop

1107
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: inflammation or to help people thought of immune diseases, it

1108
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: could be something that could be given to patients in

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00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: a controlled environment. But that's nothing that's happening anytime soon, hopefully.

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: All right, So this next one is really gross. In

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00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: Australia and McDonald's employee was caught on video drying a

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00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: wet mop under the heating of the French fry station.

1113
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: So aka, they were dripping dirty ass mop bacteria all

1114
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: over the French fries. So this woman who took the

1115
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: video said she overheard another employee saying she didn't think

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01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: the woman should do that because it might catch on fire,

1117
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: not because of disgusting it was. And then another employee

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01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: was reaching around this person and the mop and grabbing

1119
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: French fries for orders. Oh god, think about this. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that they have more than one mop at McDonald's.

1121
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: They might like, that's the same mop that cleans the

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01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: bathroom that there's like men's pissed all over the floor

1123
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: around the toilet and like little kids shit and everything else.

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Speaker 2: And they use that to mop the floor. And then

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01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: they're going and mop, you know, hanging up this wet

1126
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: mop that's getting bacteria and getting mildew and stuff and

1127
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: letting it dry and then they're deciding to dry it

1128
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: out underneath the fry the frywarmer. That's just great. It

1129
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: is so absolutely disgusting. And what's moren't disturbing for me

1130
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: about this is it seems like something everybody was used to,

1131
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: so like, how long has this been going on? Yeah?

1132
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: And you wouldn't think like if one of your fries

1133
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: felt kind of wet, you would just be like, oh,

1134
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: it's oil or something like. You wouldn't even think anything

1135
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: of it. Ugh, the thought of this gives me out

1136
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: so bad. Yeah, and it's not to mention that the

1137
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: chemicals that used to clean the floor, like they might

1138
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: use bleach or some kind of detergents or some harsh

1139
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: chemicals that should also not be dripping onto your food. Yeah.

1140
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's like, what's wrong with people? It's

1141
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 2: problematic for so many reasons. I just I can't see

1142
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: this ever being okay. And the McDonald's came out and

1143
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: said that they gave everybody the proper food safety training

1144
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: that they needed, So I'm like, well, were they not

1145
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: given it before? Because now they're there. You can't train

1146
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: people that are that stupid. You just can't, because there's

1147
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: just gonna be another situation that comes up that they

1148
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: just don't understand, Like why why would you even need

1149
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: to dry am mop anyway? I don't know, ring it

1150
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: out in the little thing that's it? Yeah, you ring

1151
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: it out and then you let it dry. I don't

1152
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: under I don't understand why it ever had to be

1153
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: dried out like that, And I don't understand why somebody's

1154
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: first hesitant with it is that it might catch on fire.

1155
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: So it's just it's scary. It really, it's alarming actually

1156
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,040
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Speaker 2: other death news. So there's this rumor that when Napoleon

1189
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: Bonaparte died over two hundred years ago, a doctor was

1190
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: acting out of spite and cut his one and a

1191
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: half inch penis off during an autopsy. The penis was

1192
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: then sold at an auction to a urologist, and so

1193
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: now who has it. His daughter claims to have it

1194
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: in his collection. So after he died, he didn't tell

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01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: anybody about it and just kind of kept it hidden

1196
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: within his personal stuff. And then he died and his

1197
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: daughter ended up inheriting this penis. I hate in the

1198
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: article that they don't show us a picture what it

1199
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: looks like, but they said it looks like a little

1200
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: shriveled up pinky finger. It's like a beef jerky. Yeah.

1201
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean kind of gross to think about having somebody's

1202
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: like penis shriveled up in a box. Did you see

1203
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 2: the box? It was like this gorgeous, elegant little keepsake

1204
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: box that this shriveled up penis is in. Yeah. I

1205
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: kind of want to call her and like offer her

1206
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: money for it. I'm interested in having that in my collection,

1207
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 2: to be honest. Yeah, she's in New Jersey residence. Oh shit,

1208
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: I better give her. I better be like yo jers

1209
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: represent sell that to me. I'll take it. So definitely

1210
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: an interesting tidbit. Remember there is this rumor going around

1211
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: that John Dillinger's penis was in the Moodor Museum. Oh yeah,

1212
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: I remember that. Well, they're in this article. They have

1213
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: a list of the different things. So actually Albert Einstein's

1214
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: brain was on display at the Moodor. I don't know

1215
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: if it is anymore because of their ridiculous rules anymore.

1216
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: But apparently Thomas Edison's last breath, which is ridiculous is

1217
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: on display, so I don't know. They were like, oh, wait,

1218
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: before you die, put this bottle up to your mouth

1219
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: and we will in case your breath. Beethoven's earbones, Lincoln

1220
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: skull fragments, so and Galileo's finger. They're all on display

1221
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: throughout the world in case you were wondering, Yeah, this

1222
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: is this is definitely an interesting little keepsake. She didn't

1223
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: want to, you know, speak much about it, but I'm

1224
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: wondering if they're going to keep passing it down in

1225
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 2: their family or eventually donate it to a museum or

1226
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: donate it to a cool an Jemmy, can you imagine

1227
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: that would be so crazy? It would be amazing, I know, right,

1228
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: all right, So on a Question of the Day every

1229
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: Friday at the at Mother Knows Death Instagram, we put

1230
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 2: a little question box up in the story so you

1231
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: guys could ask whatever you want. First question, how did

1232
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: you balance going to school, working and being a single mom?

1233
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: Good question. I don't know how I did that. I

1234
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: did There was a time where I was a single

1235
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: mom and I went to school full time and I

1236
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: worked full time, and it was crazy. I lived with

1237
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: my at the time, So she helped me a lot

1238
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: with Maria at least, so I didn't have to worry

1239
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: about that. And my mom is well to live closer

1240
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: to me, so it just was easy when my family

1241
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: helped me out and just kind of crank through. And

1242
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: I just told Maria it was going to suck for

1243
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: two years. Like that's how I I put it, And

1244
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: you know, I just had a similar We're going to

1245
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: have an interview this week with my husband talking about

1246
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: doing his school and everything, so stay tuned for that

1247
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: on when's that coming up?

1248
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: Thursday?

1249
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Thursday, So on Thursday, all those who requested gave

1250
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: your wishes come true. He was on the show. Yeah,

1251
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 2: so he'll be he'll be there Thursday. But that was

1252
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: one of the things we talked about, Like he came

1253
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: to me and was just like, listen, I want to

1254
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: do this and then it's going to take me whatever

1255
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: it was three years and it's going to suck, and

1256
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: you know that's what you have to do with your family.

1257
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: Just be like, listen, I need you to do this.

1258
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: For this payoff for me and for with Maria especially.

1259
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: It was even more important because I was a single mom,

1260
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: so I just I saw this opportunity that not only

1261
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: could I do something to make myself better, but like

1262
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: I was able to get a job where I can

1263
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: make more money, and that was the only way I

1264
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: could think of to make more money in order for

1265
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: us to eventually be able to afford a house by

1266
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: ourself and have a car. She was getting to be

1267
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: a teenager, getting her a car and things like that.

1268
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like when you live in a

1269
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: situation where you're a single kid, you kind of have

1270
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: to do that sacrifice. And my friend and Natt just

1271
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: did it too with she went to nursing school and

1272
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: she had two boys, or she has three boys actually,

1273
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 2: but one's a little bit older, and you know, she

1274
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: just was like listen, like I have to do this

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Speaker 2: and it's going to suck, and now it's awesome. She

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Speaker 2: just makes so much more money, and it's just they

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Speaker 2: can go on vacations more now and just do things

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Speaker 2: that they weren't able to do before. So it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: But it's kind of like a family sacrifice, and that's

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Speaker 2: what Gabe was talking about, Like the whole family has

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Speaker 2: to deal with it. When you're in school, not just you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I remember you sitting me down and being like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to school and like the next two

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Speaker 2: years are going to really suck, but when it's done,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be worth it. So just like, please

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Speaker 2: be patient with me. And it clearly was worth it,

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Speaker 2: you know. And we had a really good relationship, which

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Speaker 2: I feel like helps in all those cases too, because

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Speaker 2: like I think you had a lot of trust in me,

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Speaker 2: so you weren't worried I was gonna be off doing

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Speaker 2: bad stuff while you weren't around. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: we had Annie to help out too, and I just

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: hung out with them and my mom and it was

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01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: it was fine, you know, and I understood how beneficial

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Speaker 2: it was going to be to our future together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and that's the thing, Like I was getting

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Speaker 2: home at eleven o'clock at night some nights, just you know,

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Speaker 2: going to work after school and stuff, and it's just

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Speaker 2: I mean, luckily you were old a little bit older too.

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Speaker 2: I think you were like thirteen or fourteen when I

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Speaker 2: started grad school anyway, so that was that was I mean,

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Speaker 2: I always I talk about the grad school because that

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Speaker 2: was the most intense part of my education. But she

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Speaker 2: was a teenager, so it was like not not that

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Speaker 2: a teenager doesn't need a mom anymore, because they certainly do,

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Speaker 2: but she was a little bit more, you know, self sufficient.

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Speaker 2: She could get home from school on her own and

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Speaker 2: feed herself and like things like that. Yeah, it ended

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Speaker 2: up being totally fine. So I think, as like a kid,

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Speaker 2: you just have to have patience with your parents and

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Speaker 2: understand it's to benefit you, it's not to blow you off,

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Speaker 2: so it's it's worth it all right. Next, with all

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Speaker 2: death and funeral traditions around the world, what do you

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Speaker 2: find the most interesting. I think I would say the

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Speaker 2: Taraja and Indonesia are the most interesting. They when their

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Speaker 2: family member dies, they just have like the craziest ritual

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Speaker 2: where it's crazy for us, it's completely normal for them,

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Speaker 2: but they keep their family member alive and keep them

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Speaker 2: preserved for a long time after they die, living in

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Speaker 2: their house and until they are able to afford to

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Speaker 2: give them a proper burial. The burials are considered these

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Speaker 2: huge things. They're like weddings. They could cost thousands of dollars,

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Speaker 2: and the longer you leave your family member in the house,

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Speaker 2: the more money you can save to have this funeral

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Speaker 2: for them. And then once they're buried. They get exhoomed

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Speaker 2: every so often for these traditional ceremonies in which they

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Speaker 2: bring like let's say the mom dies, they put the

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Speaker 2: mom in the ground and then they open the coffin.

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Speaker 2: They take the mom out, and then they dress the

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Speaker 2: mom up and they have these parties. They might smoke

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01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: a cigarette with someone and the people. Like some woman

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01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: that has done this with her mother said that she

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Speaker 2: just she misses her mom and she just gets really

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Speaker 2: excited when she comes out and her children get to

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: see their grandmom and everything. And then she goes back

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Speaker 2: in the ground for a little while and then they

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Speaker 2: take her out again in the next ceremony and they

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Speaker 2: dress her up again. And when you see the pictures

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: of it, it's disturbing because the people are literally carrying

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Speaker 2: around like mommies. But it's kind of romantic and cool

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01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: at the same time, the tradition of it. So I

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01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: just am very interested in it. It's very cool. Yeah,

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01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 2: Like I we just had that episode with Paul come

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: out right, So I think everybody should definitely get his

1345
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: book Momentum Moory because it really shows how sterile we

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01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 2: view death. And I think when you see how other

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01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 2: cultures celebrate it. It just really cool and makes it

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: kind of like less scary because you see that you

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01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: might not be living on earth anymore, but there's this

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01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 2: spiritual like afterworld you could go through and your family

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: could still celebrate with you in some manner, and there's

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 2: some sort of peace I find from that instead of

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01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: just being like, oh, I'm just going to be in

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: this box on the ground, you know. Yeah. And then

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01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: when you especially when you read books by Paul and stuff,

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01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: you're just like, Okay, we're actually the weird ones that

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: are just so closed off about it. And then also

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Speaker 2: when you see all of the photos he takes all

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: around the world, especially in Europe, you see that that

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01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: it's it's weird, how it so because so many of

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01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: us have immigrated from Europe over time. How these traditions

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: were being carried on for for hundreds and thousands of

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01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: years over in Europe. So it's weird that the way

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Speaker 2: that we that we handle it in the Western world. Yeah,

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01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: like in other cultures, people just really seem to honor

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Speaker 2: their dead. We're here, it's kind of just like all

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Speaker 2: right on to the next So yeah, it's it is weird,

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Speaker 2: But I mean The good thing about living in America

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01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: is that there's no there's no hard and fast rules

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01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: about what you have to well there are to an extent,

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Speaker 2: I guess definitely, because you can't like I mean, I

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Speaker 2: always can have because remember we covered Amy Carlson from

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: the Love Has Won Coult and they had her mama

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: fight in the house. Yeah, like I always tell my

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: mom I'm going to get her tacks at Ermide when

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01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: she dies. But yeah, you're not allowed to do that,

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: but you you well, also you could do different things

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: like you can. I mean, I guess you can't really

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01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: do anything like that good that you want to do.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's alternative methods to how you could

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Speaker 2: do it, but we don't want to give any exact

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: examples because we don't know legally in this country what

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: you could do. So yeah, but you're I mean, it

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: is it's and that's the thing. In Europe, there's some

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01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: cultures where you would keep your family member's skull or

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: something like that and were they would be used for

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: art kind of art. Yeah, like just really really cool stuff.

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 2: And I mean it's just it's frowned upon here, right,

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 2: You're not even allowed to look at it in a

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01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: museum anymore. It's so frowned upon. Ugh, all right, will

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Speaker 2: your crime con lecture be available in the gross room?

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think the answer is no. No.

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01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: So I know crime Con just got a deal with

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: Serious XM to broadcast some of their lectures. I'm gonna

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: say yours not part of that because we haven't been

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01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: notified of that. But otherwise it's gonna be pretty exclusive

1397
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: to crime Con, so you have to go to see it. Sorry.

1398
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: And to those inquiring if I have lip injections and

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Speaker 2: how I do it with my needlephobia, I do not

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: have lip injections. He Sarah, Oh, natural baby, So she

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01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,440
Speaker 2: she would never, and like it seriously is becoming conconcern

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: mine because she's getting older and she's going to need

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01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: to get botox at some point, and I'm like, how

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01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: are you going to She even went to my appointment

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: with doctor Dimitri and I was like, okay, just record

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01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: this because we're gonna show people like what it's like

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01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: to get botox or whatever I was getting at the time,

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01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: and Maria was like, I'm sorry, Like I have to

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Speaker 2: leave the room. I feel like I'm gonna faint. And

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: we were like rolling our eyes. Do you want me

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: to pass out and embarrass you in the room or

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: do you want me to excuse myself and get through it.

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: It already embarrassed me, so it's fine. Well I don't

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01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: really care. Not everybody could just blow things off. I

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: have trauma. So oh all right, well that's that. On that.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys at Crime Con in a couple

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Speaker 2: of days. We are really excited to see everybody going

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: and meet some people. We're going to try to network

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: and get some cool guests on the podcast, and yeah,

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: we're super excited. All right, thanks, we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder,

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Speaker 2: my training is as a pathologists assistant. I have a

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Speaker 2: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 2: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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Speaker 2: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

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Speaker 2: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

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Speaker 2: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

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Speaker 2: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

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Speaker 2: that science is changing every day. And the opinions expressed

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Speaker 2: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

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