WEBVTT - Drone Flying and Olympic Hype with Shireen Ahmed 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.640 Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're still 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:07.280 a little bit emotional after Celine Dion's opening ceremony performance. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.639 We're going to get into all of the magic from 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.319 the opening ceremony. Here the latest on the Canadian drone 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:16.680 scandal from CBC Sports Schyne Ahmed and enter producer Alex's 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.160 Wild and Wacky World of Olympic Facts. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:24.480 But first, here's what you need to know today to Paris. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.440 In diving, best friends since childhood, Cassidy Cook and Sarah 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.120 Bacon secured the United States first medal of the Games, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.880 winning silver in the synchronized spring board event, the first 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.680 American medal in this event since twenty twelve. China meanwhile 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.600 claimed its sixth straight gold. Well Great Britain picked up 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.199 the bronze. By the way, shout out to whoever was 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.320 in the Cook and Bacon fan section wearing a full 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:46.040 Bacon outfit. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:47.600 That's my people right there. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.560 In swimming, the US team of Kate Douglas, Scretchenwalsh, Tory Huskins, 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.720 Simon Manuel claimed silver with a new American record in 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.240 the four by one hundred meter freestyle relay. Australia meanwhile 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.080 continued its decade of dominance the event, claiming a fourth 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.240 straight gold. Two of those relay teammates went one to 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.720 two the next day in the one hundred meter butterfly, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.039 Americans Husk winning gold and Walsh taking silver. Katie Ladecki 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.320 opened her fourth Olympics with a bronze medal in the 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.760 highly anticipated four hundred meter freestyle race. Ladecki said she 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.720 just couldn't find another gear, coming in third behind reigning 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.760 world record holder Arion Titmus from Australia, who took gold, 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.119 and Canada's Summer Macintosh, who took silver. Ladeki will now 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.600 pivot to her longer distance races, the eight hundred meter 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.959 and fifteen hundred meter, and will enter both as the 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.280 gold medal fave. In soccer, the US earned a spot 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.119 in the knockout stage with a four to one win 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.720 over Germany. Sophia Smith put in two in the back 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.119 of the net, while Mallory Swanson and Lynn Williams each 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.080 added a goal. They'll wrap up group play against Australia 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:44.800 on Wednesday. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:45.800 And in case you. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.880 Thought we hyped up Zambia's Barbera Banda too much before, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.440 the US beat Zambia three to nil. Well, she had 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.920 a first half hat trick against Australia, her third hat 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.760 trick in just five career Olympic matches. But get this, 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.080 Australia is still on the Matildas came back from a 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.760 five to two deficit and secured a six to five 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:05.720 victory with a goal. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.280 In the ninetieth minute. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.240 In fencing, it was Team USA versus Team USA in 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.880 the foil final, Lee Kiefer successfully defending her gold medal 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.960 from Tokyo, beating teammate Lawrence Scruggs fifteen to six. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:17.840 Get this. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.640 With the win, Keefer becomes just the third woman to 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.480 ever win back to back gold medals in the foil event, 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.720 an event that was first contested at the nineteen twenty 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.360 four Paris Olympics. Also, Scruggs, a rising senior at Harvard, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.200 becomes the first black woman to win an individual medal 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.200 in fencing for the US. The women of Team USA 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:41.519 Gymnastics qualified for Tuesday's team final, while Simone Biles qualified 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.840 for the all around final with a massive score of 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.679 fifty nine point five to sixty six. She also qualified 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.160 for vault, floor and beam finals. This was scary. We 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.560 saw a minor CAF injury flare up for Biles during 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.440 her floor warm ups, but thankfully, one of her coaches, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.640 to Seal Landy says she doesn't have any concern about 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.320 biles ability to compete in the upcoming events, and we 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.600 hope to see a full strength Simone going forward. Fingers crossed. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.239 We're sending you all our calfs files. You could take 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.040 all of our calves, Simone, we don't even need them, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.200 you can have them. Finally, the US indoor volleyball team 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.640 open up their Olympic title defense today with a Group 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.919 A match against China. By the way, another podcast right 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.040 here on the iHeart Women's Sports Network, League one Volleyball's 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.839 Serving Pancakes has all the volleyball contact you're looking for, 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.359 so be sure to subscribe, follow and listen. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:30.639 Let's get back to. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.440 Selene Dion really quick and that incredible opening ceremony, because 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.240 there were tears. There were tears for Selene, there were 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.560 tears for that incredible rendition of imagine pretty much tears 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:42.320 for like half of it. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.080 The whole thing was such a feat. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.160 It was strange at first, this departure from the usual 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.040 ceremony happening inside a stadium those are super dramatic and impressive, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.280 and we've kind of gotten used to them, so seeing 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.680 this started out a little weird, but then it was 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:02.400 absolutely incredible for the people of Paris. Among the people 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.400 of Paris, people were literally hanging out of windows and 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.800 balconies to watch, and they became a part of the show. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.400 The show used monuments and churches and museums and elements 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.040 of the city's architecture. It had everything. It even had 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.320 an Italian American from New York City singing a French classic. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.520 That's right, shout out, Lady Gaga. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.880 You know your French pronunciation is good when France itself 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.520 invites you to sing in their tongue on the biggest 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.680 stage in the world. That was beautiful. Speaking of beautiful Beyonce, 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.800 hot damn. I really think America should just get every 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.080 single medal at this Olympics for being able to claim 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:43.080 Beyonce as ours. I mean, the boots, the outfit, the song, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:48.039 the hair, the vibes, the message, absolutely mesmerizing. Of all 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.320 the things, and there were many, that was by far 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.039 my favorite, but some other moments that stood out to me. First, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.320 I want to give medals to all the acrobats that 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.320 were in the rain, like the breakers, the bikers, the dancers, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.520 those cirks to so olay looking people on the giant 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.600 poles like that stuff looks really hard, but then they 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.120 were doing it in the rain, which was even more impressive. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.240 I think there should be special metals for them. I 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.960 also loved Kelly Clarkson shouting out the non binary Parkourt 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.920 torch bearer that led us kind of through the ceremony. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.680 And also the inclusive runway show. We saw folks in drag, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.040 young and old, everybody, every size, every race. I absolutely 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.000 love that. Also shout out to us runner Nicki Hilts. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.719 They posted several shots waving an American flag with the 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:34.200 caption quote, here's my official application to be at Tamussa's. 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.599 Non binary flag bear love that, Niki. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.680 I also love that Paris couldn't not be horny for 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.839 just a second. Did anyone else have a menajatoi in 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.960 the library in their opening ceremony bingo card. I'm not complaining. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.440 I mean people aroused by books, I get it. I'm 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.000 in I'm just surprised. Also, the way they closed the 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.120 door on their canoodling like a contestant on the Bachelor 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.880 kicking out the camera for the fantasy Suite, perfect chef's Kiss. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.080 I also loved that we went straight from that to 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.960 the minions so the kids at home could recover quickly. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.640 That was just, you know, seamless transition Paris. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.200 While I was watching, I was thinking about the teams 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.440 in the smaller boats and wondering if the athletes and 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.919 those like took into account that they were waving that 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.880 giant flag for two hours in a dinghy in those 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.919 waves in the rain, like I hope they consider that 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.240 an arm day ahead of their competition, or I hope 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.239 they like took turns seemed very tiring when the waves 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.120 really got going, which brings me to a not dinghy, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:34.640 which was the Americans. Holy cow, five hundred and ninety 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.000 four USA athletes, not all of them were on the boat, 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.719 but this was a giant boat, and it kind of 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.600 reminded me of how we sort of take our Olympic 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:42.480 greatness for granted. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.800 Sometimes I was just listening to a podcast and a. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.719 Foreigner moved to the States and kind of realized, unlike 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.400 his home country that gets dotted by the occasional success story, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.560 that now that he was in America, it was. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.640 Just gold, gold, gold, gold, and more gold. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.719 And I feel like we throw around stats about our dominance, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.520 you know, we always talk about how just the women 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.000 would beat almost every other country's total medal count, but 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.840 I don't know that we really sit with it all 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.880 that much other than just like bragging. So I was 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.960 just feeling really proud as I was looking at that 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:16.520 really diverse, incredibly packed, giant, absolutely giant yacht full of 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.040 American greatness, and I feel like that's kind of what 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.520 the Olympics always do for me. Like there are so 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.960 many reasons to be critical about our country right now, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.080 and frankly critical of so many aspects of the Olympics, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.960 but I find it really hard to be cynical when 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.000 I'm watching the opening ceremony or I'm watching athletes get 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.320 their medals, or families crying over their kids succeeding. I 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.440 just think with the sadness and the conflict in the world, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.920 the Olympics are this way. We always remind ourselves that 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.080 we're in this together. And when we see people from 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.920 countries that are at war literally celebrating amongst each other, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.960 competing fairly and valiantly against each other, seeing in their 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.600 enemies their own humanity, like there's another human being over 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.040 there putting in the work, putting on their country's colors 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.880 and achieving a life stream. You look at that refugee 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.600 Olympic team, this like sad but beautiful balance of people 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.960 competing without a flag or a country, but they're still 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.920 training and working and striving. I just feel like during 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.400 the Olympics we see so many of our globes, problems 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.960 and solutions kind of displayed at once. And I always 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.520 wish the feeling of unity and the shared planet vibes 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.120 that we get at the Games would last longer than 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.640 sixteen days, or if you count the Paralympics, more than that. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.000 But I don't know. In some ways, maybe naively, I 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:28.640 think it does. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.360 I do think it brings people together, and hopefully they 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.760 leave and those people watching leave feeling a little more connected. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.439 I think seeing all those different faces and bodies and 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.880 flags and uniforms on the boats was just super moving 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.280 and I loved it, and I love the Olympics, and 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:44.360 I'm so glad they're back. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.079 When we come back a country. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.920 That's maybe not feeling quite as proud as I am 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.240 right now, we'll find out what the folks are saying 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.720 about the Canadian drone scandal up in America's hat. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.880 After this, we're back. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.360 We spent the braain awarding the first ever Olympic medal 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.319 in drone flying to Canada. Okay, all jokes aside, but 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.080 started as a simple spying incident has ballooned into so 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.480 much more. And to give us some perspective from Canada, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.199 we're joined by CBC Sports reporter for a coast of 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.840 the fantastic podcast Burn It All Down, which we miss. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.520 It's Schirene Ahmed. What's up, Scheren. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.080 Hi, Sarah, thanks for having me Okay quickly to set 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.280 the stage for this conversation. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:25.960 We're talking on Sunday. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.800 Canada currently has six points after today's two to one 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.480 win over France and last week's two to one win 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.240 against New Zealand. But on Saturday, in response to an 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.040 initial investigation into the drone scandal, FIFA deducted six points 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.680 from the team and find them over two hundred twenty 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.680 thousand dollars. Canadian coaches Bev Priestman, Joseph Lombardi and Jasmine 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.400 Mander all suspended from taking part in any football related 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.760 activity for one year for a Canadian team hoping to 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.760 defend gold. That's six point penalty makes it really tough 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.959 to advance to the knockout rounds, but if they keep winning. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.000 It certainly helps. We've got some ongoing reports. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.120 We could still find out that the players knew about 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.320 this or a million other things, but for now, Sharen, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.480 it feels like they're suffering due to the choices of 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:07.160 their coaches. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.319 How are you seeing it? So that's exactly it. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.360 I mean, this was supposed to be like a really 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.599 great opportunity to, you know, following cover a team that 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.720 I've been covering for a very long time, defending gold medalists. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.000 You know, the storylines are all there, but realistically it 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:27.000 quickly descended into something very different. First with the allegations 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.439 from New Zealand the Ferns, but now it's got to 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.440 a point where this morning, two hours before kickoff, former 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.480 head coach Bet Priestman is issuing essentially an apology, not 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.480 an explanation, but an apology and just sort of saying 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.840 she hopes that Canadians still cheer on this team. There's 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.319 so many mixed perspectives. People are angry, people are angry 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.920 at Rick Westhead's reporting for TSM. People are angry at me. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.719 People are angry about so many things, which I think 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.720 is misdirected because you know, you want to cover the job. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.679 Isn't need to be a PR person or comms. It's 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.199 a journalist, right, And people are heartbroken for the players. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.960 I'm getting a lot of resounding, you know, comments that 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.400 it's unfair. People are saying that FIFA's you know, decision 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.040 was unfair. And we did hear from David Jimmaker, head 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.120 of the Canadian Olympic Committee, that they will be looking 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.120 into an appeals process. And in the meantime, you also 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.680 have that's like Steph Labe out there defending herself, Christine Sinclair, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.880 greatest Canadian, you score an international goals score of all time, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.520 prolific player with the Portland Thorns. You also have Dina 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:33.520 Matheson who came out to say that you know what, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.160 if they take away six points, we'll give them nine. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.400 Dina Mathieson, who was a great for Canadian soccer and 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.040 is also launching a professional women's soccer league in Canada, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.720 and of course doesn't want this hanging over this incredible 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.280 endeavor of the Northern Super League. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.000 Absolutely, but you know, her guidance and her ability to 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.839 get up there in leadership and say listen, this is 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.760 what we're going to do. And to be very honest 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.080 with you, the players on this team have been supported 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:02.160 unconditionally by past members. Claire was stat and Amy Walsh. 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.640 I was working with them both at CBCE Olympics this week. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:09.000 Claire is on color commentary and Amy Walsh was me 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.200 on the panel broadcast panel, and they're both associated with 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.480 this program. I mean, this has been devastating for so 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.360 many people and there's so many questions. There's so many 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:22.320 questions Sarah, and Soccer Canada has launched what they said 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.600 they will launch an independent internal review, which is really important. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:27.920 So when people ask, well, what's going to happen, we 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.640 don't know. We do know that Bet Priestsman has been 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.800 suspended pending the results, but I really don't see a 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.120 scenario where she comes back. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.680 Yeah, you know, you mentioned that it feels like just 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.840 full throated support for these players. So you know, how 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.160 are folks in Canada reacting to this? Both the news 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.480 that there was cheating and reports that had been happening 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.040 for years, and then also the idea that like the 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.760 players ultimately as of now we feel are innocent but 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.320 are penalized by this point deduction. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.760 Yeah, I think that's a really important distinction. At the 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.360 end of the day, there's no evidence that the players 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.920 were involved, and I need to reiterate that because at 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.320 the same time, if they've benefited from a system that 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.560 was rigged, then you have to have that conversation, and 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.160 it's not a good one to have, particularly when they're 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.240 out there literally as warriors. They just won two to 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.400 one in thirteen minutes of overtime and extra time. That 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.720 felt like another half to be quite honest, against France, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.040 who's play second. So you see the grit, you see 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.600 the passion, and it's unfortunate in one sense. It's not 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.880 only to move on, it's they're playing for their reputations. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.880 I mean, these are players that are no strangers to 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.360 any kind of drama. If you know your listeners, remember 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.080 last year before the Women's World Cup, which was disastrous 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.920 for Canada. It really was a difficult year. They testified 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.400 on Parliament against the federation, almost went on strike like 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.680 it was a tough year. And then this year was 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.559 really supposed to be better, and this whole thing unfolds, 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.160 so they're not interested in drama. They don't want this. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.920 I actually really feel like, can they ever get a break? 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.600 Can any women's soccer team get a break? Like you're 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.000 talking about that? I think maybe it's a good thing. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.440 I mean, Spain won in the midst of their disaster, 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.520 the US one while suing its own federation over equal pay. Like, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.880 can we just get a team to be supported by 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.679 its own freaking federation and its own coaches and its 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.360 own fans and then rise to victory in a completely 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.600 spotless situation Like that would be nice. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.600 It would be It's the dream, Sarah. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.920 But like, at the end of the day, we see 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.160 what we see happening. Is int answer you a question. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.240 There's a lot of Canadians with the opinion it's really 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.160 not a big deal. And the reason that I say 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.960 that is because it's commonplace in other practices and maybe 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:40.840 on the men's side. Whereas ESPN did actually report earlier 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.480 this morning, I think, because what is time that John 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.640 Herdman is actually connected the former women's head coach who 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.720 went to the men's and now coaches in MLS for TFC. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.320 He is like a common denominator for all of this, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.920 which is really. But then at the end of the day, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.560 you wonder Bev Priestman may not have a future in 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.400 soccer anymore, but John Hurdan and still will. Right, Where's 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:03.800 where's the equity there? 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.200 It certainly feels Sharene that this could get even bigger 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.200 and the investigations could reveal even more. You know, you 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.520 mentioned goalkeeper Stephanie Lebay. She won bronze in the Rio Olympics. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.960 She helped lead Canada to gold in Tokyo, and our 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.720 producer Alex unearthed an old story from a site called 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.720 between the Sticks. This is from Canada's Tokyo run and 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.240 it pointed to Lebay's efforts in net as extraordinary and 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.800 I say the word like that on purpose. Quote Her 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.320 tournament penalty saved percentage of fifty percent excluding off target 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.560 penalties is absolutely astonishing, especially when you consider that most 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.600 top goalkeepers average between thirty and forty percent of penalties 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.040 saved in a single tournament. Now, Stephanie tweeted out, if 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.720 anyone wants to speak about pks, I studied hard the 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.720 night before every match, watch video of players taking peakys 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.280 pks and national team and club games. Made my own 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.880 educated guesses based on that info. No drone footage was watched. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.160 Do not confuse great goalkeeping with cheating. I want to 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.240 believe her, and I do believe for that she didn't 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.400 know it, that she didn't want footage. But if her 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.440 coaches did and they said, hey, this person always goes left, Hey, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:05.680 this person fakes left, goes right. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.160 Hey, this person sho tie or low or whatever it is. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.280 I feel for these players and having to wonder if, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:16.560 deep down somewhere their achievements were affected by the cheating 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:17.240 of their coaches. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:18.360 That's so unfair. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.640 It is unfair, and I think that's a good way 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.120 to put it. It's the epitome of betrayal. It's the 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.160 epitome of injustice because in her intent wasn't There's no 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.960 way anyone can make me believe that Labbe did I 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.720 mean for her to go out there was actually really 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.960 heartbreaking to heard her go online. I remember watching that match, 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.640 watching her kind of smile, her ponytail, jumping up and down, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.880 trying to distract the Swedish players, kind of psyche them out. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.320 I remember watching that match and being like, you know, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.840 she's got this and her tenacity. She's also an older player, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.640 just sort of her experience and the joy that it 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.240 brought in her trusting her own gut and her being 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.800 in a really good mental place. Lobby's also a player 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.000 who's been really honest about he struggles with mental health. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.000 So yeah, you know what, I actually really do believe her. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.200 And the thing is is that until someone can ultimately 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.880 prove otherwise, irrespective of stats and whatnot, like I mean, 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.880 I'm going to but like you said, this does have 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.719 even if you didn't intend to, you're affected by it. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:22.399 And that's what is so frustrating, like really frustrating for 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.600 these players on Team Canada because of the fact that 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.200 what they've been through and they're a team that stands 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.720 about integrity. They have been really supportive of Quinni, They've 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.160 been supportive of social and political issues. They've been really outspoken. 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.280 So to have this happen is just the icing on 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:40.240 a cake you didn't want. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.040 Yeah, it just makes me so angry for them. Sharene Wee, 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:45.480 thank you for coming out. I know you've been doing 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.679 hits left and right talking about all the latest and 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.359 breaking news in this but while we have you, I 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.240 wanted to ask you one more thing because I've been 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.720 watching and thinking about you. I've been thinking about my 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.920 friend ip Taj Mohammad. I saw the news of France's 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.920 rule prohibiting French female Muslim athletes from wearing a job 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.520 or headscarves during the Olympics. The athletes are technically considered 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.399 civil servants while they're competing, so they have to adhere 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:07.840 to principles of secularism. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.200 That's according to the country's rules. You wear a job. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.400 You have spoken so eloquently about this, particularly cool things 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.280 like Nike introducing their own hit jobs and things like that, Like, 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.160 how do you see this rule and how. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.200 Unfair is it to these female athletes in France. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.359 I think that when we're talking about an Olympics, the 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:28.640 thirty third Olympiad is being presented as one with gender equity. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.639 It's a farce. It's hypocritical because the host nation is 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.320 deliberately excluding a particular group of women. I don't know 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.119 how they stand there and do that and look. I 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.880 like Begats as fun much as everybody else. I really 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.360 do love Begattes, but at the end of the day, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:46.679 don't purport to be supportive when selective inclusion doesn't is 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.439 not inclusion at all. And I've said this once and 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.320 have said it again. Forcing women out of clothing is 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.399 as violent as forcing them into it. And in sport 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.840 in particular, let women wear what they want to as 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.639 long as there's no jewel. There could be hurt to 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.679 other opponents or something like that, which is not the 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.320 case with a job. There has been no evidence, because 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.120 I've looked for it, Sarah, that his job will hurt 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.320 a player or an opponent. It's just not it. And 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.720 I think it's really important to understand that. And one 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.600 of the reasons a lot of people didn't know about 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.879 this is because media and France barely reports on this, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.720 so few do and France really believes in this idea 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.480 of secularism. And at the end of the day, I 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.560 do want to make this distinguishing point is that secularism 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.399 isn't a bad idea if it's implemented fairly, and it's not. 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.880 You see Seri the professional league in France. You have 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.359 South American players with religious tattoos all over them, making 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.240