Speaker 1: Hello, it's Alec Baldwin. We're going to rebroadcast an episode
Speaker 1: from our archives. This week. You'll hear my conversation with
Speaker 1: Paula Pell, who I met when she was a writer
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live. We'll have new episodes of Here's
Speaker 1: the Thing beginning March fifteenth. Until then, enjoy my talk
Speaker 1: with one of the funniest people I've ever met, Paula Pell.
Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the
Speaker 1: Thing from my Heart Radio. Not long ago, there used
Speaker 1: to be two types of comedians, comedians and female comedians.
Speaker 1: Today there are so many women making us laugh that
Speaker 1: the qualifier has been rendered obsolete. Saturday Night Live deserves
Speaker 1: a lot of the credit for this development. The show
Speaker 1: has introduced us to Gilda Radner, Jan Hooks, Maya Rudolph,
Speaker 1: Teina Faye, and Kristen Wigg, to name just a few.
Speaker 1: But there's been another woman at SNL, a woman who
Speaker 1: has been quietly working day after day for seventeen years,
Speaker 1: often without sleeping. To usher in this reality seventeen years,
Speaker 1: I've been there yet. Paula Pell was working at a
Speaker 1: Florida theme park when she got her dream job as
Speaker 1: a writer at Saturday Night Live. Because the show has
Speaker 1: such a wide comedic range, it's the perfect challenge for Paula.
Speaker 1: You've got the hard hitting news parodies and then on
Speaker 1: the other end, you know, it's got fart jokes. It's
Speaker 1: got everything in it of the low parts of comedy,
Speaker 1: mostly me being responsible for Thailand albm of Eli Baldwin
Speaker 1: taking a taking a ship in a bed while he's sleeping.
Speaker 1: Tell Albim releases a gentle sleep aid into your system
Speaker 1: that allows deep, restless sleep for up to ten hours,
Speaker 1: so deep it turns off your brains need to control
Speaker 1: the bodily functions most likely to wake you. Rachel was like,
Speaker 1: did you yourself, I've slept like a baby? Done me?
Speaker 1: Tell me? You tell me, you tell me. In her
Speaker 1: memoir Bossy Pants, Tina Fey writes that her proudest moment
Speaker 1: as head writer at SNL was fighting for one of
Speaker 1: Pell's sketches introducing co Text. Classic Classic co Text is
Speaker 1: a commercial for the feminine protection of Yesteryear, featuring the
Speaker 1: sexy women proudly encumbered with bulky pads connected to belts
Speaker 1: peeking out of your clothes. I always know it's there.
Speaker 1: You can't take the original room Girls, old school. Paula
Speaker 1: pel In person is genuine, charming and easy, the kind
Speaker 1: of person you might actually talk to if you sat
Speaker 1: next to her on a plane, which, for those of
Speaker 1: you not in the industry, is not a description of
Speaker 1: the typical comedy writer. I was always a bit of
Speaker 1: a class clown. I was. I was a good Catholic girl,
Speaker 1: so I always wanted to be I never wanted to
Speaker 1: get in trouble. But I really pushed the envelope because
Speaker 1: I would be funny in class and I do things
Speaker 1: like one of my teachers. I would um do a
Speaker 1: bit where I would go by him and drag my
Speaker 1: hand along the chalk line, you know, the chuck shelf,
Speaker 1: And then I'd come over and I'd say, you know,
Speaker 1: Mr Gracier, just a really great teacher, and I pat
Speaker 1: him on the back and I'd leave like a handprint.
Speaker 1: He'd let me make him a little bit the fool
Speaker 1: for a moment, and then he'd do you know, he
Speaker 1: looked like Rob Briner and all in the family at
Speaker 1: the big bushy mustache and along there, and he just
Speaker 1: kind of looked a camera three, you know, non existent,
Speaker 1: and the audience. Would you know, the audience the class
Speaker 1: would would crack up, or I'd pass notes and say
Speaker 1: when I sneeze, because I have a really good fake sneeze,
Speaker 1: and I would say when I sneeze, everybody fall up
Speaker 1: their chairs, and you know, I'd always be doing something.
Speaker 1: But I grew up with an extremely funny dad, and
Speaker 1: my mom is he worked for Ellinois Bell. We grew
Speaker 1: up in Illinois and then moved to Orlando when I
Speaker 1: was a teenager. But my entire childhood, my grandpa was
Speaker 1: a watchmaker for West Clark's. So my dad always learned
Speaker 1: that from my grandpa. And then when he came to Florida,
Speaker 1: he worked for a T and T for many years,
Speaker 1: and then when he retired, he became a teacher of
Speaker 1: watch repair, watch making, all all of it. So how
Speaker 1: does the guy who works for the phone company and
Speaker 1: how does he and he becomes watch tinkerer? How was
Speaker 1: the funny in his life at home? He's just ungodly witty,
Speaker 1: he's really but never wanted to be in the business himself.
Speaker 1: Where did he express? Probably did, But you know, I
Speaker 1: look at all the people in my family and all
Speaker 1: the relatives of different generations, and they all had their things.
Speaker 1: You know, my mom has a beautiful singing voice. They
Speaker 1: all had something that they wanted to do. But the
Speaker 1: way they grew up was you just you know, you
Speaker 1: have kids early, and you you kind of figure out
Speaker 1: what you need to do to pay for that. And
Speaker 1: and so they, you know, a lot of times didn't
Speaker 1: have the luxury that kids have now. Even though it's
Speaker 1: hard to get a job to say, you know I'm
Speaker 1: doing this, that you didn't sign on to that program,
Speaker 1: what was wrong with you? Well, I they wouldn't just
Speaker 1: do what you were supposed to do. They knew that
Speaker 1: I was pretty hopeless. I mean at my confirmation where
Speaker 1: you get the Holy Spirit, I came down the stairs
Speaker 1: at my party and had torn like eight holes in
Speaker 1: my pantios and said I had the Holy Spirit and
Speaker 1: just would do things like that all the time, you know.
Speaker 1: And this was before I drank or smoked anything. I
Speaker 1: was always a total hand. But my dad really taught
Speaker 1: me that he's the king of like. I will tell
Speaker 1: you that. One of the hardest times I laughed at
Speaker 1: him is my mom and I were watching die Hard
Speaker 1: on television. My Dad's cut in the yard and he's
Speaker 1: outside cutting the yard. He's got his little jean shorts
Speaker 1: on and his tank top and he keeps coming in
Speaker 1: and walking by and kind of half listening. He's a
Speaker 1: really good quiet half listener. But then he'll do something
Speaker 1: based on what he's been listening to. I you know,
Speaker 1: I was listening to my mom and the terrorist had
Speaker 1: the long blond hair, you know, the big like kind
Speaker 1: of Nordic guy at the beginning. Yeah, And my mom says,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, but I don't like long hair,
Speaker 1: but that is pretty foxy, and she's like commenting on
Speaker 1: so we're laughing about it and everything, and then I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding. Like an hour later, my dad just walked through.
Speaker 1: He had gone in my room and gotten a wig
Speaker 1: that I had of all my ship in my room,
Speaker 1: put a long wig on with just his grass cutting stuff,
Speaker 1: and just walked through. He didn't stop, he didn't do
Speaker 1: a bit. He just walked through. They also knew that
Speaker 1: rule like that you keep the ball in the air
Speaker 1: and play along. They were good, Yes, without the training,
Speaker 1: they were good improv people. King of like a prop
Speaker 1: he'll just And what I love about it is my
Speaker 1: parents are in their seventies now, and you know, and
Speaker 1: my mom was always like you'd say, you know, you go,
Speaker 1: oh god, Dad is so funny to you, Thank god,
Speaker 1: thank god he's funny. We had so much laughter in
Speaker 1: our house, you know, despite any any dysfunction, as any family,
Speaker 1: we always laugh. Where did you go to college? I
Speaker 1: went to college at University of Tennessee. I first went
Speaker 1: to a local college in Orlando, a community college for
Speaker 1: two years. So you moved to Florida. I moved to Florida.
Speaker 1: My dad went down for a T and T for
Speaker 1: at antitrust suit that they had. Um. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like seven at late seventies. You know. We had gone
Speaker 1: a few times down to Disney World with our little
Speaker 1: pop up camper and like that was a vacation place.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a place you move. And my parents sent
Speaker 1: us a little brought back a little polaroid of the
Speaker 1: house they bought, and it was, you know, about seventy dollars.
Speaker 1: But it had this gigantic pool because in Orlando so
Speaker 1: many people have pools, even with you know, inexpensive houses.
Speaker 1: And we just thought we won the lottery. You know.
Speaker 1: It was just insane. But we got there and it
Speaker 1: was really hard the first year too. I just never
Speaker 1: liked to be I mean, I think being new is
Speaker 1: a very important thing to do for growth. I think
Speaker 1: it really galvanizes a lot of stuff inside you, of
Speaker 1: who you are and everything. And I'm glad in hindsight,
Speaker 1: but I used to just wake up in the morning
Speaker 1: and just cry, and you know, just because I had
Speaker 1: so much familiarity and comfort with all the kids that
Speaker 1: I went to school. It's just I was always quiet
Speaker 1: at first, you know, and then by my senior year,
Speaker 1: I got really involved in well in the girls you know,
Speaker 1: would go because I remember when you'd come in, you know,
Speaker 1: you came in your junior year and I'd say, oh,
Speaker 1: really really because I came in my sophomore year and
Speaker 1: sat next to you for an entire class and you were,
Speaker 1: you know, cold, little ass wipe to me. But you
Speaker 1: know that's right now we're friends. And what was the
Speaker 1: difference for you in terms of the people if you can,
Speaker 1: if you can caracter from Illinois to Florida, I mean Florida.
Speaker 1: I mean, one thing that really helped me was I
Speaker 1: was always I always sang. So I went in immediately
Speaker 1: into a concert choir, and so that was wonderful because
Speaker 1: then I had a social group pretty quickly. But the
Speaker 1: one thing about Florida that was so different that freaked
Speaker 1: me out was that, you know, I never thought I
Speaker 1: was growing up in Illinois and necessarily I mean a
Speaker 1: cold sort of atmosphere. It was emotionally warm. I had
Speaker 1: great friends, you know, my family warm. But when I
Speaker 1: got to Florida, everybody hugged constantly. Everyone was so affectionate
Speaker 1: in such a crazy way that I remember sing it's
Speaker 1: I remember coming home and going stop cupping my nipples
Speaker 1: tenor I don't know you in the choir no, but
Speaker 1: people would um. I kept thinking it was our director's
Speaker 1: birthday or something. I was like, what the hell is
Speaker 1: going on in here? Everyone is hugging our teacher, hugging
Speaker 1: each other. I realized it was just that was just
Speaker 1: the way everyone did, you know. And then my girl,
Speaker 1: my um, who eventually became my girlfriend of many years,
Speaker 1: was my best friend in high school, and we were
Speaker 1: very huggy, and that all worked out because that was
Speaker 1: the right person, not the teacher, not until after we
Speaker 1: graduated exactly. Then then you went to the college down there.
Speaker 1: I went to the college for two years down there,
Speaker 1: and I was, um, well, their theater department was amazing,
Speaker 1: their art department was incredible, and I was also an
Speaker 1: artist Seminole Community College. But I mean the heads of
Speaker 1: those departments and the music department were so incredible that
Speaker 1: today they still are some of my favorite people that
Speaker 1: have gotten taught Because is my art professor, Grady Kimsey,
Speaker 1: who I'm a really good friend with. Still he had
Speaker 1: gone to UT years and years ago, just kept saying,
Speaker 1: you gotta go check out UT. And then my girlfriend
Speaker 1: was going to North Carolina, so it kind of you know,
Speaker 1: I'd go up and visit, and I'd never been up
Speaker 1: in those mountains, and I just fell in love with
Speaker 1: us there because I'm such a nature freaking Yeah, I
Speaker 1: went crazy for it. And when you left there, what happened?
Speaker 1: And then I finished college and I came home and
Speaker 1: I worked at the theme parks. What's that? Like? How
Speaker 1: do you get the job at Disney? Like? Who's is
Speaker 1: there somebody who's like a casting person? Well, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: talent people. And you know, I had worked with an
Speaker 1: improv group called sac Theater in Orlando. They at the
Speaker 1: time contracted out to Disney, so they did all the
Speaker 1: like in Apcott in Italy, the comedian doll Art too.
Speaker 1: You know. They would do all the comedy that's kind
Speaker 1: of the roaming, atmospheric comedy. And then they built Pleasure Island,
Speaker 1: which was the nighttime Disney. You know, all the nightclubs
Speaker 1: Pleasure Island, Pleasure Island, Welcome Come, Mickey has no Pants
Speaker 1: on an entire island they built that had all these clubs.
Speaker 1: They had like a big discotheque. They had a country
Speaker 1: Western sort of music club. It was just kind of
Speaker 1: like a strip of nighttime establishments, but all in Disney.
Speaker 1: But it was late night and it kind of a
Speaker 1: downtown feel, like a cluster. And they would have like
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve every night, so they'd have dancers come
Speaker 1: out and they dance. And it was really a fabulous
Speaker 1: place to work as a young actor because it felt
Speaker 1: cool and I could and I did a lot of improvisation.
Speaker 1: But then we also did like radio shows and singing.
Speaker 1: We could be kind of dirty. I mean, it wasn't filthy.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't go full till my typical filth
Speaker 1: that you know of. I didn't pell out, but you
Speaker 1: would interact with the guests, so there, you know, you'd
Speaker 1: be sitting there with some old British dude who's getting
Speaker 1: drunk and just get into a conversation. And I played
Speaker 1: Pamelia Perkins, the president of the Adventurous Club, and it
Speaker 1: was kind of a Teddy Roosevelt era sort of place.
Speaker 1: And I had this big buffont and I could just
Speaker 1: be as body as hell. I mean I would get
Speaker 1: on guy's laps and you know, have my legs up
Speaker 1: in the air because I was like a matron sort
Speaker 1: of character. And we used to have such a blast.
Speaker 1: But then also during that time I went down Penis
Speaker 1: Avenue for about two years. I was dating men for
Speaker 1: a little while, and I would hook up with people,
Speaker 1: I mean just meeting like different people I meet, well,
Speaker 1: just guests, and you know, you'd meet some super super charismatic,
Speaker 1: handsome person. You'd be sitting there laughing and you be
Speaker 1: in costume, and then they'd be like, what are you
Speaker 1: guys doing after you know the characters, what do these
Speaker 1: characters do next? And there was a restaurant and there
Speaker 1: were bars down the street that they would let us
Speaker 1: after work go to. So you just take change all
Speaker 1: your clothes and you know, blow drive the ship out
Speaker 1: of your hair and go now I'm twenty five again.
Speaker 1: And I'd walk down there and and it was New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve. Every day it was New Year's but you
Speaker 1: vomited every day and lost your virginity every day. What Pamelion,
Speaker 1: Pamelia Perkins, Pamelia, Pamelia Perkins. Of course he's banging the
Speaker 1: guests two at a time. I mean for an actor.
Speaker 1: At that time, I was making really good money and
Speaker 1: had full insurance everything, had a car, rented a little house.
Speaker 1: You know. It was kind, it was. It was a beautiful.
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful life. And then I got started
Speaker 1: crazy with it and that was just about when happened.
Speaker 1: But how does how does that happen? How did they
Speaker 1: find you? It was? It was a beautifully random, amazing thing.
Speaker 1: We'll be back in a minute. I had worked with
Speaker 1: Sick Theater. They had a theater downtown. They would call
Speaker 1: me every so often and I go do a set
Speaker 1: with them where I do a character that I had written.
Speaker 1: And so they said, you know, we're going to do
Speaker 1: this sketch comedy pilot called chuckle Head. And they said
Speaker 1: will you be in it and do those characters? And
Speaker 1: I said sure, I mean I was doing, like I
Speaker 1: got beat up in America's most wanted, you know, all
Speaker 1: the local all the things that we're shooting in Orlando.
Speaker 1: I would do, you know. And I did this lottery
Speaker 1: character for years in about three states that was played
Speaker 1: the Worlitz Organ. You know, sexy characters, ale, you know,
Speaker 1: but all from the Matron Handbook. I was born at
Speaker 1: fifty Alec. But um they called me. My agent called
Speaker 1: me one day and she said, are you sitting down?
Speaker 1: I said yes. She said, Saturday Night Live saw that
Speaker 1: pilot Lauren wants to meet you. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: for what And she goes, now, it is not an audition,
Speaker 1: but he wants to fly you up and talk to you.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, what is it? An orgy? Am
Speaker 1: I being summoned? What in the f And I said okay,
Speaker 1: And so I flew up there. You know, talk about vacating.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like emmodium city the entire two
Speaker 1: days of getting there. He was two hours, you know,
Speaker 1: or three hours late for the meeting, but he was
Speaker 1: super nice. And I sat with Marcy Klein and Ayala
Speaker 1: in the talent room and I was so nervous that
Speaker 1: they ordered food and they said, um, we're ordering zen palette.
Speaker 1: You know, vegetarian, We're ordering zen palette. Do you want anything?
Speaker 1: And I said, just just like a couple of white
Speaker 1: rice would be good, just like rice. And I just
Speaker 1: got a dry cup of white rice and set and
Speaker 1: ate it. I went in and he said, we have
Speaker 1: just cleaned house. It was it was when well Ferrell
Speaker 1: and everybody ken. He said, we've cleaned house. We're starting over.
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna rise again. We're hoping, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna try to infuse it with new talent, and we
Speaker 1: would like to hire you to be a writer. When
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, I've never done that. I
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even I mean I didn't even
Speaker 1: use a computer at that point. And I said I can't,
Speaker 1: you know. And if you tell them you can't, then
Speaker 1: they will. He will keep saying well, and he said,
Speaker 1: well we'll show you, you know. But it was so
Speaker 1: quick that it made me worry that there was something wrong,
Speaker 1: like there was a scam or something like this was
Speaker 1: all some kind of freaking joke, because I was like,
Speaker 1: this can't be. And how soon after that were you
Speaker 1: moving to New York? Um? I had five days to move,
Speaker 1: packed up my whole life, gave my animals to my mom,
Speaker 1: temporarily went up to New York City, and you know,
Speaker 1: just was just ungodly miserable and I mean with fear.
Speaker 1: But Mike Shoemaker called me right before I left because
Speaker 1: I was starting to freak out to the point of going,
Speaker 1: I'm going to my dream place. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: obsessed with us. Now. When I was little, I used
Speaker 1: to audiotape it. I used to perform Rosanna, Rosanna Dana
Speaker 1: for my high school in the auditorium, and I thought,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to be sitting around with like, you know,
Speaker 1: ten Harvard dudes looking at me, going who the fund is?
Speaker 1: Who hired Kathy Bates Light and you know, and why
Speaker 1: is she? And I adore Kathy Bathed by the way,
Speaker 1: but they were just you know, I thought that I
Speaker 1: would be so not of their world, of these writer
Speaker 1: early sort of people, and I didn't realize how many
Speaker 1: writers there are performers. And so Shoemaker called me, and
Speaker 1: I still thank him for this because he really is
Speaker 1: the reason that I ended up getting the balls to
Speaker 1: get there. But he called and he said, some people
Speaker 1: want to say hi, and it was you know, Cindy
Speaker 1: Capanair and Lorina So and all these people that were
Speaker 1: new that were terrified, and they all got on the
Speaker 1: phone going, we can't wait to meet you. And I
Speaker 1: hung up the phone and I just burst into tears.
Speaker 1: I said, it's all gonna be okay. No matter what,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. It's just a group of people.
Speaker 1: It's almost like of all the years of doing plays,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a new cast getting in a cast
Speaker 1: seventeen years. I've been there yet seventeen And well, I
Speaker 1: think in general, comedy has gotten a little, you know,
Speaker 1: it's gone through its ebbs and flows in terms of
Speaker 1: things being more character driven or or you know, more conceptual.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that show always has great amount
Speaker 1: of both. And I always loved the fact that that
Speaker 1: show had something for everybody. You know, I'd sit with
Speaker 1: a group of people that I'd love certain things and
Speaker 1: they'd love certain things, and so I, yeah, I love
Speaker 1: the band. I love the balance, you know, I love
Speaker 1: the balance of it. Um. But one of the biggest
Speaker 1: things that's changed in general to me is the Internet.
Speaker 1: Because when I was growing up and you were an actor,
Speaker 1: you had to create a body of work by really
Speaker 1: doing it and getting hired, and then they would give
Speaker 1: you access to tape of it. You know, you couldn't
Speaker 1: just go on machines and videotape yourself and make a
Speaker 1: beautifully edited, great comedy piece and put that on the internet.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't do it. I mean, my
Speaker 1: my real I just remember, you know, I do a
Speaker 1: tiny role in something and just love that. I was
Speaker 1: adding that to my real and you'd have to go
Speaker 1: to like a video place and pay the guy to
Speaker 1: sit there and do it on the gigantic machine. The
Speaker 1: Internet has changed things profound Yeah, it just and I
Speaker 1: think in a bad way. It gave people a sense
Speaker 1: of entitlement of there isn't as much awe of all
Speaker 1: of it because they do it themselves. So it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have you know this, I've done, I've done my show.
Speaker 1: You know, they created themselves, which is very empowering and wonderful.
Speaker 1: And it's also getting a lot more comedy out there
Speaker 1: of hilarious people that would never usually walk into a
Speaker 1: room in an audition, right right right. That seems to
Speaker 1: me to have been the condition for me, which is
Speaker 1: I've come to us and now and um, the signals
Speaker 1: that I picked up in Hooks and all that crowd
Speaker 1: back then was you know, my career wasn't that iconic
Speaker 1: to send up me and my career. And so it's
Speaker 1: not like I'm Stallone or Schwartz and neggrassing like that
Speaker 1: where we do that. So you come in and right
Speaker 1: away you pick up I've got to become like everybody
Speaker 1: else and become a member of the company. And as
Speaker 1: soon as I got that, as soon as I kind
Speaker 1: of picked up that vibe from them, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: asked to come back and come back and come back.
Speaker 1: And what it does is it for me as a performer,
Speaker 1: it's killed everything else that's supposed to be funny. Well,
Speaker 1: and I wonder what that's like for you where you're
Speaker 1: in the world, where you work with the funniest people.
Speaker 1: No matter what people say about SNL, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not always gonna work, but when it works, it's I
Speaker 1: think it's the best. What's it been like for you, Well,
Speaker 1: you get so you get so you know, isolated there
Speaker 1: in great ways and weird ways, because it's there's nothing
Speaker 1: like it. You cannot compare that experience with anything but
Speaker 1: it really is so intense. And you you know, I
Speaker 1: started writing movies two years ago and working into that,
Speaker 1: I realized how stretched out the time is, to the
Speaker 1: point where, you know, I mean, we'll go between dress
Speaker 1: and air, and Lauren will say, I don't like the
Speaker 1: whole top of that, like add you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of new jokes, So you're you're coming up with new
Speaker 1: jokes at eleven fifteen. And let me just put a
Speaker 1: finer point on that for our radio audience, our podcast audience,
Speaker 1: because um that SNL does a full dress rehearsal at
Speaker 1: eight o'clock on Saturday night with an audience with a
Speaker 1: lengthier show. And let's say normally they have seven sketches
Speaker 1: in the air show, they do like eleven sketches at eight,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna pick what worked best and then they're
Speaker 1: going to be right. So when that finishes at ten,
Speaker 1: maybe ten fifteen, maybe ten thirty, who knows. It's a
Speaker 1: long show show, and then you've got an hour where
Speaker 1: you're sitting in a room and in that hour between shows,
Speaker 1: that's when Lauren and the producers and their VIDs edit
Speaker 1: that show and choose what they're going to do and
Speaker 1: ask for rewrites, and they're getting rid of that audience.
Speaker 1: They're bringing in a new one. The band is warming
Speaker 1: up the new audience, and you'll walk through and have
Speaker 1: a task to change something, and you're walking by these
Speaker 1: people that are walking in to their seats looking like
Speaker 1: I'm so excited I'm here, and you're like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna have for you, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it right now. You know. I did a Bobby
Speaker 1: and Marty one time with Will and Anna, and they
Speaker 1: found out that we were losing time quickly, and so
Speaker 1: they said, you have to take like two minutes out
Speaker 1: of this. I mean it just and it was between
Speaker 1: the commercial break. So I went downstairs and I was
Speaker 1: kneeling down with the que card people. They were just
Speaker 1: putting tape over sections and we're like, okay, does that
Speaker 1: make sense? Does it does? And go with children And
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that if like Dr Oz did my
Speaker 1: actual age, you know how they test you and you're
Speaker 1: actually I'm probably a hundred and eighty now because the
Speaker 1: stress of that. It's just such adrenaline and you know,
Speaker 1: but I mean the beautiful thing about S and L
Speaker 1: is hosts will come in and and you know, never
Speaker 1: you because you were always very approachable. Whenever anyone asked
Speaker 1: me about hosts, I always tell them that, you know,
Speaker 1: you are always one of my favorite hosts. I'm not
Speaker 1: blowing air up here, coolo, I'm going to lose that.
Speaker 1: What is coolo? And yeah, well yeah, if you're blowing smoke.
Speaker 1: But obviously could you have men do have other holes.
Speaker 1: But like you know, host will come in with their
Speaker 1: people and they're very nice and very scared, but they
Speaker 1: have a little bit of that sometimes because they're fearful
Speaker 1: and they have people protecting them. And by the end
Speaker 1: of the week, they just always at that after party,
Speaker 1: you know, they're sitting with everybody and laying across everybody
Speaker 1: because it feels like theater. It feels like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: in theater camp and this is what I miss doing.
Speaker 1: More from Paul Appell in a moment, This is Alec
Speaker 1: Baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing. Paul Appell
Speaker 1: has been writing sketches at SNL for seventeen years, but
Speaker 1: like any of us, sometimes she just gets tired of comedy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, you don't want to watch in
Speaker 1: the pity now? My my gal of fourteen years. She
Speaker 1: watches a lot of TV, and she watches shows that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't generally watch, like Castle or you know, like
Speaker 1: Kawai Fibo or like Murder Show and I mean, you
Speaker 1: know murder shows, C S I and CIS. She'll watch
Speaker 1: all She'll take She'll tape all these shows and like Elementary,
Speaker 1: all these new shows, and I'll get totally hooked on
Speaker 1: things and realize that I just love I always loved
Speaker 1: having drama and comedy together. I mean, that's the fun
Speaker 1: thing about writing movies now is you can have a
Speaker 1: moment that's just a heart wrenching moment in a comedy
Speaker 1: that's that's real. You know, that feels more three dimensional,
Speaker 1: because after seventeen years of sketches, you do get a
Speaker 1: little stir crazy with feeling like you're just writing something
Speaker 1: on the surface. I mean, it's great to make people laugh,
Speaker 1: but when I go home, I love to watch dramas
Speaker 1: or some reality things. I love to just not think
Speaker 1: about comedy. I do the show and I go out
Speaker 1: there and it's really um and I'll say, I'm never
Speaker 1: doing this, this is ridiculous. I can't be bothered with
Speaker 1: this toastyiness people to these people are all young and
Speaker 1: they're all crazy and the little puerile and all they
Speaker 1: talk about his thoughts and brazils and so forth. And
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go do as you like it in
Speaker 1: the park. Then of course, you know, Lauren calls me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, he'll call me like I get
Speaker 1: thrown off the plane on American Airlines for for playing
Speaker 1: words with friends. The phone rings like three or four
Speaker 1: days there it's Lauren and he literally he literally he
Speaker 1: literally goes, so perhaps we should do something. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I can't believe you people
Speaker 1: are insane. This would be the week, this would be
Speaker 1: which would be the week, you know, which like that
Speaker 1: thing where we have to do it now, But you
Speaker 1: can't say no to them. You feel like your family.
Speaker 1: You just forget how immediate it is. You know. Years
Speaker 1: ago I did a sketch with UM, with a little young,
Speaker 1: little sweet faced justin timber Lake when he was in
Speaker 1: in Sync. I used to write a sketch called UM
Speaker 1: six Degrees Celsius and it was like a boy group
Speaker 1: and Will Ferrell was their manager and he had to
Speaker 1: stay three feet away from them because clearly had done
Speaker 1: some inappropriate things. He had tinted glasses. Of course, you know.
Speaker 1: It was Jimmy Fallon and Chris Catan and Horatio and
Speaker 1: they were and they were and Chris Chris Parnell and
Speaker 1: they were a boy group and then we'd have the
Speaker 1: host in it. Well, that week in Sync was there.
Speaker 1: We asked and Sync to be another boy group in
Speaker 1: this competition on the show, playing a fake boy group.
Speaker 1: And so I wrote a song called hold the Pickle,
Speaker 1: and they were like McDonald's employees, and so in Syn
Speaker 1: came out with like McDonald's outfits on and saying hold
Speaker 1: the pit gull and they're so they were so crazy talented,
Speaker 1: Like they got there and looked at it for ten
Speaker 1: minutes and had full harmonies and full choreography. I mean
Speaker 1: they threw that ship together. I was just amazed they
Speaker 1: came on. And then remember what was the MTV thing
Speaker 1: every Sunday, like the Big I can't think of the
Speaker 1: name of it, but the show the like show that
Speaker 1: they show all the videos and everything at that time.
Speaker 1: Do you remember what that? Okay, Well, anyway, it was
Speaker 1: it was a very you know, the big show that
Speaker 1: the kids used to dance to um. But the next morning,
Speaker 1: I'm in my little apartment and you know, I probably
Speaker 1: ordered four entrees from some to go things to eat
Speaker 1: my pain, because you always did. On Sunday and I
Speaker 1: turned on the TV and Justin Timberlake was on TV
Speaker 1: on the show at noon in Times Square, and there
Speaker 1: were just hundreds of girls down there waving to him,
Speaker 1: and they had a banner with the words to the
Speaker 1: song hold the Pickle on the banner that they had painted.
Speaker 1: And I was looking at it, going that cannot be
Speaker 1: because we just did this, like I just woke up
Speaker 1: and we just and then I just remembered like I
Speaker 1: used to get obsessed. You know, I didn't have the Internet,
Speaker 1: I didn't have videos, but back at the day, I mean,
Speaker 1: my god, if I would have grown up in the
Speaker 1: Internet era, I would have been the queen of like,
Speaker 1: you know, just having my own fans site. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I just loved it and I wanted And we were
Speaker 1: having a funny conversation the other day. In my journals.
Speaker 1: When I was young, I would talk about Rocky because
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with Rocky, Syvester Stallone and the very
Speaker 1: first Rocky movie, and I would talk about like in
Speaker 1: two weeks people magazine is going to have an article
Speaker 1: about him, and I would wait until we got that
Speaker 1: magazine and then I would take it home and I
Speaker 1: cut it out and put it in a script. You know,
Speaker 1: you you had to wait to get information or a
Speaker 1: photo of someone, or if you really loved a singer,
Speaker 1: you had to wait for their album to come out.
Speaker 1: And now you just you just four years older than
Speaker 1: you remember. When I was a kid, there was no cable,
Speaker 1: there was no DVD. The trailers for movies and and
Speaker 1: the build up, the ramp up of a campaign to
Speaker 1: advertise a film was or at least it seemed so
Speaker 1: far reaching back then. I'll never forget. We went to
Speaker 1: The Godfather and I was underage and we we snuck in.
Speaker 1: I forget how now we stood in line and it
Speaker 1: was like three screening, you know, like one o'clock, four o'clock,
Speaker 1: seven o'clock, and you go to the top of the
Speaker 1: line and didn't get in, so you waited another three hours,
Speaker 1: you know, reading Mad magazine or some crap we read
Speaker 1: back then. And I always say, now people wait to
Speaker 1: stream a movie and it's like, you know, four minutes
Speaker 1: to stream it in their tip and their foot and
Speaker 1: going come on exactly. And the other thing is that
Speaker 1: they'll watch twenty minutes of it, then they'll pause and
Speaker 1: they'll go talk on the phone and play they lose
Speaker 1: interest in it. Yeah, now you are you left to
Speaker 1: do a television show? I left. I left about six
Speaker 1: years ago to do I wrote a pilot called Thick
Speaker 1: and Thin that was about too fat sisters that grew
Speaker 1: up fat and one gets really hot and thin and beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we shot the pilot. It got picked up for like thirteen,
Speaker 1: but it was a bad year for multi camera sitcoms.
Speaker 1: It was kind of when they were getting phased out.
Speaker 1: And it was also about a subject that was a
Speaker 1: little weird still back in that era of you know,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole bunch of stuff with weight stuff,
Speaker 1: and I really wanted like real people that look fat,
Speaker 1: you know, that look fat because I had struggled with
Speaker 1: my weight all my life and huge amounts of way
Speaker 1: a couple of times in my life. Sharon Glass and
Speaker 1: Martin Maull played the parents, and they played my parents,
Speaker 1: so it was their names. They did all of my
Speaker 1: dead stick. I mean, it was really a special thing.
Speaker 1: My parents came to the pilot, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was it was very emotional and wonderful and fun. But
Speaker 1: the process of developing a network show like that is
Speaker 1: so hard, and I really, in hindsight learned so, you know,
Speaker 1: learned so many things after the fact. You know which
Speaker 1: one thing you learned that you can say, um, well,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I learned was I'm I'm a people pleaser,
Speaker 1: and I always like to get to know people and
Speaker 1: see the good sides of them, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: have a lot of positive energy with with them because
Speaker 1: I had known so many people that developed stuff that
Speaker 1: we're like welcome to hell. You know, everyone just gets
Speaker 1: so negative about it. I thought, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go into this. I'm so lucky to be doing this.
Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled. But I befriended everyone so intensely, you know,
Speaker 1: especially like network people and everything. I befriended everyone, So
Speaker 1: then there was this sort of discomfort at telling them
Speaker 1: things they didn't want to hear, or me pushing back
Speaker 1: in bigger ways. And because I had already established that
Speaker 1: we're all just friends and we're all having fun and
Speaker 1: we're laughing, then they would suggest things that were just
Speaker 1: show ruining, and I would just be like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know, and I just at the time didn't really
Speaker 1: have my voice as a as a creative person to
Speaker 1: lead something like that, you know, So I I regret that,
Speaker 1: and I regret not um pushing more. I mean, casting
Speaker 1: was you know, a little brutal just because of the
Speaker 1: weight thing is they would they would bring people in
Speaker 1: that were I wanted real people that were you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted the other sister to be to be a
Speaker 1: real heavy person. And and when they'd audition heavy people
Speaker 1: sometimes i'd watch their faces when they're auditioning them, and
Speaker 1: they're kind of like looking at their bodies, and I'm going,
Speaker 1: this is not good that they don't get it. That
Speaker 1: like the you know, Roseanne was freaking huge hit show.
Speaker 1: It's like, come on. I don't even remember who said
Speaker 1: this to me, but one of the network people pulled
Speaker 1: me aside during one of the castings and she said,
Speaker 1: did you audition this other girl for that part for
Speaker 1: the heavy sister? And I said, no, I auditioned her
Speaker 1: for the thin sister. And she said you couldn't pad her,
Speaker 1: could you. And I just remember walking away going, this
Speaker 1: is so dead in the water. You know, now movies,
Speaker 1: you're doing a movie, now, yeah, I did. I worked
Speaker 1: a little bit on Bridesmaids. I just came a couple
Speaker 1: of different times and just you know, pitch jokes on
Speaker 1: the set, did that kind of thing. Had never done
Speaker 1: anything movie wise ever, and I really really had fun
Speaker 1: doing it. I really enjoyed it. And then I Judd
Speaker 1: started hiring me to do some rewrites on different movies
Speaker 1: and punch ups and stuff, and I started to see,
Speaker 1: you know, because I had tried to get into it
Speaker 1: before in other eras of my life. Um. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I had had an idea for a
Speaker 1: while about my journal, my childhood journal, of doing something
Speaker 1: with it. I wanted to do a little play based
Speaker 1: on it. I wanted to do something with it, and
Speaker 1: Tina had, you know, I'd read it to her many
Speaker 1: times in an s and L. I'd read it to
Speaker 1: people before I came up with an idea for a
Speaker 1: movie to do to pitch and I pitched it to
Speaker 1: Universal and they bought it with Tina attached to it
Speaker 1: as a producer and potentially to be in it. And
Speaker 1: so I wrote that that's in the work that we're
Speaker 1: waiting to find out all the finals on you know,
Speaker 1: on that, what's happening with that? It's it's um, it's
Speaker 1: been you know, gone through its three rites and all that.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that about two sisters, and then
Speaker 1: jud and I just wrote a movie, and then last
Speaker 1: summer I worked on my first full movie experience with
Speaker 1: This is forty. I was then executive producer on that.
Speaker 1: It sounds horrible, but do you ever wonder what it
Speaker 1: would be like if you and your wife were separated
Speaker 1: by something bigger, deaf like her death? I have given
Speaker 1: it a fair amount of thought, not any painful way,
Speaker 1: but just like a gentle floating off. It's got to
Speaker 1: be peaceful. I mean, this is the mother of your children.
Speaker 1: And then the new wife would be great. God, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to meet my second wife. I hope she
Speaker 1: likes me better than this one. I've finally kind of
Speaker 1: gotten my foothold in the movie thing now and really fun.
Speaker 1: I really love it. I mean it's a lot of
Speaker 1: it's a lot of waiting around for news on things.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of you know, I can't plan anything
Speaker 1: because you don't know what your next year is going
Speaker 1: to be. A find out, but so beautiful to be
Speaker 1: able to work at home with my animals and d
Speaker 1: and just like to be aren't you Well, you always
Speaker 1: come back to the same thing when I've spoken to you.
Speaker 1: I was despondent when you left because you know, you
Speaker 1: were such a great You're such a great writer, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite, so funny, but everything mean that and
Speaker 1: you And then when you left and you said the
Speaker 1: same thing, You're like, I always want to go home
Speaker 1: to d and my animals, animal animals, go live the
Speaker 1: lesbian life. I want to be on a lesbian fire.
Speaker 1: I want to wear my dance got clogs. I want
Speaker 1: to get a mag light and go under a dumpster
Speaker 1: and get some feral cats out of there. I have
Speaker 1: a horse up there, I have, you know, just it's
Speaker 1: so beautiful and inexpensive up there in the Hudson Valley.
Speaker 1: It's like the amazing place. But also, um, just I'm
Speaker 1: realizing to just the finite amount of time, you know,
Speaker 1: I've I've spent more time since I've been doing the
Speaker 1: movie stuff the last two years, I've spent more time
Speaker 1: with my family. I've been down in Florida a lot
Speaker 1: to visit them. It's just feeling so much better for me.
Speaker 1: And also I love like Lauren whenever I'm there, I
Speaker 1: did the Louis c. K Show, and I'm doing this
Speaker 1: next to here and um, and you know, Lauren will
Speaker 1: say to me, it's still fun, right, it's fun. You
Speaker 1: had fun, and I go, oh my god, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: But if I did it all the time now, I
Speaker 1: would be like a you know, a bitter hag because
Speaker 1: I just feel like I wasn't having time or energy
Speaker 1: to do other things. And also everyone is is very young.
Speaker 1: I mean my nieces and nephews I saw delivered out
Speaker 1: of my sisters, uh the gene and they're in their
Speaker 1: mid twenties. And ones of physician's assistant ones. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've named myself at S and L nanny sn L
Speaker 1: because I'll sit at the real rate table, like what
Speaker 1: isn't the name of that hore's that detective on television.
Speaker 1: I'm like Grandpa, Oh my god, gonna Grandpa. They'll kno
Speaker 1: going to do and SEP we're ready and like Grandpa
Speaker 1: will be right there. It'll be right there. God damn it.
Speaker 1: But if you have a good night there, you feel
Speaker 1: like you're twenty again. I mean, you know, if you
Speaker 1: have a night where you feel like I mean, last week,
Speaker 1: I had a really fun Scotch I wrote with Kate
Speaker 1: McKinnon for her and Louis c. K and it was
Speaker 1: funny and dirty and where they were at last call
Speaker 1: at a bar and they're just trying to find common
Speaker 1: ground because they know they're the only two people left.
Speaker 1: So they're like, wait, you're from Arizona. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm from northern California. That's crazy, and they were They
Speaker 1: made out in the most disgusting, face eating way you
Speaker 1: could ever imagine. And uh, I just went home on
Speaker 1: that old school SNL high, just a whole high, you know,
Speaker 1: like the whole weekend, just bouncing off the walls. And
Speaker 1: then you start going maybe I could do this all
Speaker 1: the time. I got like, no, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I would leave there on after a good show, I
Speaker 1: leave there's I'm gonna be a cast. Addition, I'll do
Speaker 1: even even odd shows like the Gas Right. No, Twitter,
Speaker 1: you're on Twitter on Twitter, You're you kill me on Twitter?
Speaker 1: Thank you. I talked about like I was laying on
Speaker 1: a bed and I was having a great time and
Speaker 1: I was eating sacks and I was really cozy and
Speaker 1: everything was just I felt so great, and then security
Speaker 1: guard came up you ting his clothes. Man, it's like
Speaker 1: the Tony that routine. People always really respond to my
Speaker 1: target tweets. Twitter is just another form for you. Twitter
Speaker 1: is really I got very addicted to it just because
Speaker 1: it's so simple and it's like a video game for
Speaker 1: comedy writers to just do a one liner about something.
Speaker 1: And I started doing these hey young girl tweets and
Speaker 1: I might do a little book of them, maybe um
Speaker 1: an illustrated. You know, my nieces, I just used to
Speaker 1: drive them insane when they were growing up because I
Speaker 1: was you said that girls, Remember, hey young girls, keep
Speaker 1: your boobs in your shirt, you're button your pants, your
Speaker 1: eyes on your dreams, your head in the cloud. You know,
Speaker 1: like I can also say the thing about you know
Speaker 1: if the guy does this. Yeah, but remember the hey
Speaker 1: young girl stuff just came out of my nieces because
Speaker 1: I would bring them tests and l and they were
Speaker 1: just these dropped gorgeous girls and they would have people
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about people just checking them out, but
Speaker 1: like at the if I brought them backstage or whatever,
Speaker 1: there'd be some some dude that would just end up
Speaker 1: coming up and saying, you know, really aggressive checking them out,
Speaker 1: And so they still imitate me how I would grab
Speaker 1: them with my meaty, polish firm wife arm and she's fourteen.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about it? I mean I would
Speaker 1: just become this raving crazy woman looking at them like
Speaker 1: you know, and so I always i'd always be like,
Speaker 1: are your sexually active? I would always want to know
Speaker 1: all their details and everything, like a character out of
Speaker 1: a Rock Hutson movie. Yeah, the chaperone, Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: chaperone that's that's uh all sturrying my son away from
Speaker 1: the hoochie girl houchie dancers. You know, Um, you're a woman,
Speaker 1: and you're a woman in comedy, and comedy has changed
Speaker 1: a lot over the last forty years, but I you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's changed a lot over the last
Speaker 1: fifteen years. It's even more. You've got people who are
Speaker 1: much more you know, they're just like the guys I
Speaker 1: mean Sarah Silverman and people who are much more in
Speaker 1: living color. If you will, I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: you know, your assessment of that, how that's changed for
Speaker 1: women over your career, and also do you think that
Speaker 1: there's like certain glass ceilings still, like on late night
Speaker 1: comedy shows, like do you think they'll ever replace Letterman?
Speaker 1: Or like can a woman do that job? Because you
Speaker 1: have women hosting daytime shows, right and no one's on
Speaker 1: during the day, but the big three of the networks
Speaker 1: they don't have a woman doing that show. Do you
Speaker 1: think that will ever change? I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, I remember that era where a couple
Speaker 1: of them were doing it, Joan Rivers and different people
Speaker 1: were trying it, and they were you know, they were
Speaker 1: all stand ups, but they had been around for a
Speaker 1: long time, but not lately. So I feel like now
Speaker 1: a lot of those young funny girls are either getting
Speaker 1: their own show, you know, doing a show, a television show,
Speaker 1: but not a talk show, you know. I mean Jimmy,
Speaker 1: he's such a fan of everyone and so enthusiastic and
Speaker 1: joyful about music and everything that that was like a
Speaker 1: perfect fit for him and hilarious. So he worked out
Speaker 1: so great for that. But I think with women it's
Speaker 1: also sometimes hard at s and l like with auditions
Speaker 1: now where you go, well you see people and you
Speaker 1: go where where are a lot of the super funny
Speaker 1: you know, super funny women and you know they're around,
Speaker 1: you know, they exist, but a lot of them do.
Speaker 1: They they are young, and they they're aggressively getting their
Speaker 1: own shows and stuff like that. The second year I
Speaker 1: was at SNL, second or third, I remember having an
Speaker 1: agent say to me, Um, yeah, we gotta get you,
Speaker 1: uh you know, we gotta get a game plan for
Speaker 1: you and get you know, so you can get get
Speaker 1: out of here and and get a get a show
Speaker 1: going and all that. And I remember thinking, what are
Speaker 1: they talking about? Like, what are you talking about? You know,
Speaker 1: this is like the dream job. So but I think
Speaker 1: I think for women it's just like I've always said
Speaker 1: about U, S and L. It's like the funny rises
Speaker 1: to the top with it. And if somebody's super funny
Speaker 1: and has abandoned and joy and they're not trying, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't like ever with a comedy person them acting
Speaker 1: like someone else or acting dirty just to be funny.
Speaker 1: I'm the filthiest person on earth. But if it's not
Speaker 1: funny dirty, if I'm not being funny, you know, then
Speaker 1: forget it, because there's got to be some class to
Speaker 1: my to my vul A joke does not have a
Speaker 1: class to it to then forget it. But you know,
Speaker 1: for a while, there are some auditions I would watch
Speaker 1: where girls would come out and just try to just
Speaker 1: sex it up and be funny and dirty, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's you feel like, not all of them, certainly,
Speaker 1: but enough of them. They go out in front of
Speaker 1: a camera, a lot of them in the comedy world,
Speaker 1: and they think feel like, well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: go too far over this song because I don't want
Speaker 1: to lose this oven thing. I really would like to
Speaker 1: kiss Leo in a movie, right, I want to be something.
Speaker 1: You don't want to see anyone thinking too hard while
Speaker 1: they're you know, the the greatest auditions at S and
Speaker 1: L were people that came in purely as themselves, came in,
Speaker 1: did a bunch of craziest characters, and you just went,
Speaker 1: this is a force of nature. What is this? What
Speaker 1: is this human? Like? They were making me laugh so
Speaker 1: hard and I don't even know what where they're getting
Speaker 1: it from. When when women have that the condition that
Speaker 1: where it's it's like they sit there and they you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen women who they would make fun
Speaker 1: of actresses. I mean, I'm took a comedy. They would
Speaker 1: just tear apart. They would laceerate actresses who they thought
Speaker 1: were leaning too much on the sex button. And then
Speaker 1: those comedy actresses became stars and they popped another button
Speaker 1: and they put the makeup on their cleavage and they
Speaker 1: were like and they were just like they were camera ready.
Speaker 1: I mean, they became the thing they made fun of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you and you realize for women, that's a tough angle.
Speaker 1: Comedy and comedy girls tended to grow up being the
Speaker 1: goofy looking, you know, the goofy looking ones that weren't
Speaker 1: getting the attention that way. So when they become famous
Speaker 1: and have a lot of money and people putting beautiful
Speaker 1: dresses on them, I think they do go They do
Speaker 1: go that way, you know. I mean, I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of pretty sparkly pants suits I wear to the
Speaker 1: Emmy's now, and I really get up my own ass
Speaker 1: on it. Because Paula Pell will soon be stepping out
Speaker 1: in those pants for the release of This Is forty,
Speaker 1: a film she helped produce set to open December one.
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