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Speaker 1: Hello, Everyone's episode one one five of Every Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, bred rolland coming to you on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday evening into Wednesday, and I'm joined as I

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Speaker 1: always am, by Scott Coleman. Scott, we're back. It's for

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours. Nothing exchanged. How are you hey, Brad?

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Speaker 2: I was really hoping that, in our very traditional Sunday fashion,

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Speaker 2: we were going to podcast ourselves into a Braves transaction

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Speaker 2: on Monday or Tuesday, and of course, sadly there was

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Speaker 2: nothing of real note, although I guess there was a

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Speaker 2: little bit of movement on the last forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Since we last talked.

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless, here we are. Maybe this time is the

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Speaker 2: charm and we'll wake up to a blue square on

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Perhaps. And you know, Scott's got some commitments the

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Speaker 1: next few days. We want to come back and get

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Speaker 1: a little recording in. I always have Atlanna Hawk's coverage

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Speaker 1: to do, so well, we could find a night to

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Speaker 1: do a podcast. It's a good time to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and do that. In today's show is mostly going to

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Speaker 1: be your mail. Bad questions everybody, if you're listening to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Before we get to those, though, we should

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Speaker 1: a couple of plugs. We already alluded to it. We

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Speaker 1: did a show on Sunday which that is still relevant

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Speaker 1: at this point in time. We did a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into the reliever market, talks about a jam mentor. On

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Speaker 1: that show, talked about Walker Bueler, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Before that, last week, Steaman and Seawan, our podcast partners,

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Speaker 1: did two shows interesting stuff is there. So there's all

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Speaker 1: kinds stuff the archive and because I guess the positive

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Speaker 1: there's all that still relevant. Nothing's really changed, So listen

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Speaker 1: to those episodes for sure, and Scott. Look, there hasn't

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Speaker 1: been a lot of big news before the milbag, though

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Speaker 1: we should at least say out loud Max Freed officially

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Speaker 1: decline his qualifying offer today on Tuesday. That was always

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Speaker 1: going to happen, which we did allude to several times.

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Speaker 1: But do you have a reaction to Max Freed doing

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Speaker 1: the process move that we all expected, no grand reaction.

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Speaker 2: It made sense to offer him the qualifying offer because

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Speaker 2: Max Freed was never going to say yes to it.

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Speaker 2: If Max decides to go elsewhere, the Braves will recoup

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Speaker 2: with that. So it's nothing great. But nonetheless, Max Freed

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Speaker 2: It's probably gonna get to a bidding war at some point,

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Speaker 2: although I think, you know, I think we've all come

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Speaker 2: And if Max Reid is going to go and get

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Speaker 1: Eight years, then good for Max. Yeah, and one quick

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Speaker 1: TV un let's c J. Yakowski does a great job,

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Speaker 1: There actually was one that got signed, Bick Martinez signed his,

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Speaker 1: Also quickly, this is going to be today's people listen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while, Brad, I didn't look this up.

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Speaker 2: When was the last time the Braves had a cy Young?

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Speaker 1: I saw so I saw, no I saw, I saw.

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Speaker 1: Here's what happened. This is a great podcasting. I saw

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Speaker 1: we're just the podcast. It's the off season for everyone. Brad,

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Speaker 2: So. Yeah, incredible season for Chris and I mean for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And by all accounts, the Braves should have Sale

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Speaker 1: Gotta get Charlie in the podcast somehow, some way, and

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Speaker 1: we did it this Tuesday evening. All right, that's it

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Speaker 1: for the news. Let us dive in now, Scott to

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Speaker 1: your mailbag questions on this podcast if you're listening. By

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Speaker 1: Scott put out a call today on Twitter a lot

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Speaker 1: from Facebook and Instagram to of course Twitter. First question though,

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Speaker 1: comes from Wayne, who says, I listened to your show

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Speaker 1: MLB Trey roomors top fifty. My question is that assuming

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Speaker 1: you are forced to pay exactly what they project for

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Speaker 1: a player, which of the top ten in their rankings

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Speaker 1: here is going to be signed Alex Bregman to play

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Speaker 2: Did you see that, Scott Boris? I think a friend

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Speaker 2: Bregman is going to be looking for like eleven years

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Speaker 1: Your response with the appropriate one on Twitter in which

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Speaker 2: I'd be willing to share our eleven year, three hundred

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Speaker 2: fifty million dollar podcast deal. I'd happily share with the

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Speaker 2: I do agree, Bregman Alonzo Walker just not fits for

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Speaker 2: So that leaves us and this, I'm gonna do this

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Speaker 2: in descending order, just the player system. This are not

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Speaker 2: my picks. We'll talk this out. Scott one Soto thirteen

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Speaker 2: Corman Burns seven years at two hundred million, Blake Smell

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Speaker 2: Sean Manaia three four sixty. I will give you first

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Speaker 2: crack at this, Scott, which one of those if you

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Speaker 2: We're gonna try to get to as many as we

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Speaker 2: the beach or whatever, spend your millions and then come

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Speaker 2: to the Braves for a playoff push in a year

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Speaker 2: or two. But like in all seriousness, if I if

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Speaker 2: I had a handicap, I think I would go Brave one,

434
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Speaker 2: Angels two because I think for a good reason, I

435
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Speaker 2: think the Angels are trying to get more serious behind

436
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 2: the scenes, you know, established some some clubhouse and culture

437
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: things and bringing in people like Ron Washington, Travis Darnault.

438
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: AJ Minter has high regards from his teammates and I

439
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: mean he's buddies with everybody on the team. So yeah,

440
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess one year deal for the Braves or

441
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Speaker 2: maybe a two year kind of bounce back and prove

442
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Speaker 2: a deal with with the Angels.

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Speaker 1: That sounds reasonable to me. And the one that that

444
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Speaker 1: he has to going for him is that after Scott

445
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Speaker 1: and maybe Holmes, all the other guys who are good

446
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: relievers basically are old, like thirty seven, thirty eight years old,

447
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Speaker 1: and AJ just turned thirty one, So like there is

448
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Speaker 1: a little bit of runway for him, even he's got

449
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Speaker 1: a lot of miles on the arm. I think we're

450
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Speaker 1: on the same page there. If there was one, if

451
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Speaker 1: you made me pick one team for him to sign with,

452
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: it's still probably Atlanta. But I do wish for his

453
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Speaker 1: sake and for ours. Honestly, it's be interesting if he

454
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Speaker 1: was a hunder percent healthy. We just don't have that world.

455
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Speaker 1: But it's a good question. We can answer it and

456
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Speaker 1: give a little bit more context on AJ. Question from Clifton,

457
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Speaker 1: who says if the rosters across baseball were frozen and

458
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: nothing else was allowed to happen at all, infre agency

459
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Speaker 1: or trade for any team, how good would the Braves

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Speaker 1: be in twenty twenty five. So basically, there's a lot

461
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Speaker 1: of preeges right now. This is the world with no

462
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Speaker 1: one sto playing baseball this year. In this world that

463
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Speaker 1: he's thiking up, the free agents just don't play. Basically,

464
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Speaker 1: so it's like, all right, which team is the best?

465
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Speaker 1: How's the stack up? I'll throw it to you first.

466
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Speaker 1: But I will just say this, the Braves have a

467
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Speaker 1: lot of talent on their roster compared to some team.

468
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Speaker 1: I did a little bit of looking ahead on this one,

469
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Speaker 1: not a ton, but a little bit, and I will

470
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Speaker 1: say I was a little bit, not shocked, but mildly

471
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Speaker 1: surprised how good I felt about the Braves compared to

472
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Speaker 1: the rest of the league through this exercise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we almost take for granted how many

474
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Speaker 2: legitimate stars are on this baseball team. I mean, I

475
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Speaker 2: remember the conversation we had about Michael Harris at some

476
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Speaker 2: point where for maybe a third of the teams in baseball,

477
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Speaker 2: Michael Harris would be like the guy, like the player

478
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Speaker 2: on all of the team's promotional materials, the guy on

479
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Speaker 2: all the posters outside the stadium, the guy in the Twitter,

480
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Speaker 2: you know, header photo or whatever it's called like, And

481
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Speaker 2: Michael Harris is like the fifth or sixth best player

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Speaker 2: on this roster is currently constructed. And that's with nothing

483
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Speaker 2: of any moves. In this hypothetical scenario, the Braves are

484
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Speaker 2: loaded Matt Olson, Austin Riley. They might have a otherworldly

485
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Speaker 2: superstar coming back in Ronic Cunya Junior. They might also

486
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Speaker 2: have another superstar coming back in Spencer Strider. Of course,

487
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Speaker 2: we will have to wait and see just how healthy

488
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Speaker 2: and how effective those guys are come twenty twenty five.

489
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Speaker 2: But really, for me to answer the question how many wins,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's an inperfect science.

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Speaker 1: That's hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably somewhere in like the eighty five, eighty eight,

493
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Speaker 2: ninety win range. It's really the starting rotation where they

494
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Speaker 2: would feel it without Max Freed and without Charlie Morton

495
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Speaker 2: or replacements for those two. But I mean, again, man,

496
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Speaker 2: this this team, even without making any moves, and of

497
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Speaker 2: course they're going to make moves, but even without a

498
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Speaker 2: move that this roster is quite good and and you know,

499
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Speaker 2: it's a it's a fun exercise in what kind of

500
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Speaker 2: core do you have with your team right now? And

501
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Speaker 2: then hopefully over the next three or four months alex

502
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Speaker 2: Enthopolis can really pour some fuel onto the fire and

503
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: really blow this up into one hundred win team and

504
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Speaker 2: a legitimate World Series contender as long as the health cooperates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that would You know, not to go

506
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Speaker 1: crazy deep on this hypothetical, but I think I have

507
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Speaker 1: them for ninety plus wins just because I like to

508
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Speaker 1: take a stack of the rest of the league, the

509
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Speaker 1: other than the Dodgers, and they are the raging champions,

510
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: and they're of course incredibly loaded. That's not a big surprise.

511
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Speaker 1: You know, the Braves probably have the second best lineup

512
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Speaker 1: in baseball without adding anybody to it, because look, they're

513
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Speaker 1: not losing anyone. I know, they had a terrible year

514
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Speaker 1: this last year. We covered that at nauseum. Gonna come

515
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: up again, I promise you a hundred times. But everyone,

516
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Speaker 1: everyone that was in the projected opening day lineup for

517
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Speaker 1: the Braves last year is still on the tee. So

518
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Speaker 1: you don't you know what I mean, I don't. I'll

519
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: thinking about that way. But like, you're losing Horace Hilayer,

520
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: but he was a mid season acquisition. Nothing else has changed.

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Speaker 1: You still have Sean Murphy bounce back candidate. But you

522
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Speaker 1: got Olsen, you got Albi's, you got Riley, you got

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Speaker 1: Harris Ronnie wouldn't be an opening day lineup, but we'll

524
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Speaker 1: be back sooner or fider than later. You got Ozona.

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Speaker 1: Still like there's some weaknesses on the roster, but the

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Speaker 1: lineups there and even the rotation we agree there there

527
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Speaker 1: are uncertainty there, but they're not in the worst shape.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've pulled this. Fangrafts had their depth chart

529
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Speaker 1: projections up right now. The Braves are third in baseball

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Speaker 1: with their current rotation. Now, part of that is that

531
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Speaker 1: they're projecting about two thirds season from Strider, so like

532
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Speaker 1: he's going to be really good. If that's the case

533
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Speaker 1: in the projection system, along with Sale and Schwallenbach and Lopez,

534
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Speaker 1: that's four starters they're giving them. Griffin Canning, I don't

535
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Speaker 1: know if I do that, but you know right now today,

536
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Speaker 1: if you weren't allowed to add anybody else, he's on

537
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Speaker 1: your team, so he'd probably be your first starter. So anyway,

538
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Speaker 1: this is that we don't have to keep going on

539
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: this too far down. I did find this funny though,

540
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Speaker 1: as a bridge to our last question that we'll probably

541
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Speaker 1: hit on this on today's podcast. There were two weaknesses

542
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Speaker 1: in the projections at Fangrafts, and they are very raw,

543
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: down and dirty. I know that MG Rowley and people

544
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Speaker 1: over there would just say this. It's obviously very early

545
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Speaker 1: on this, but the Brads are in the bottom five

546
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Speaker 1: in baseball right now at wait for Scott shortstop and

547
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Speaker 1: left field. I know, huge, huge, revelation here. In fact,

548
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: all right, question about this to sign off the podcast

549
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: comes from Nick Shouts and Nick for the question, And

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty simple one, but it's on that we

551
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: haven't really answered directly, I don't think yet this winter.

552
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: And it is would you rather roll with Urcia and

553
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: add a left fielder or roll with Kelnik and add

554
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: a short stop? And it's one that I think we've

555
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: all talked about this brace Pat talked about this all

556
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: the time. Obviously the real answer is hopefully you fix both.

557
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: But in the next question, it's like, all right, you

558
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: can only do one. Uh, I'll let you go first, Scott.

559
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: This is not a It's not an easy one by

560
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: any means. It's a very complicated question based on market dynamics,

561
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: who's available, all those things might come into play here too,

562
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Speaker 1: But what do you think?

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00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: It's a great question, and I think it's worth I'm

564
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: gonna hedge this just a smidge.

565
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Speaker 1: I think they have.

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Speaker 2: To add and outfielder regardless, because they just don't know

567
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: what Acuna's knee is going to be like. But for

568
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Speaker 2: the for the sake of the question, it's a really

569
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Speaker 2: good one. Man. It's harder to address shortstop than it

570
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Speaker 2: is left field. Obviously, you can probably make a case

571
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Speaker 2: shortstop is the most premium position on a baseball field,

572
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: and there's just not that many options for the Braves.

573
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Speaker 2: But I just if you had an opportunity, and if

574
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Speaker 2: the Braves might, the Braves might have a legitimate opportunity

575
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: this winter to add an impact, above average to star

576
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: level shortstop to replace Orlando Arcia. You make him your

577
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Speaker 2: backup utility guy, and you add a legitimate three to

578
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Speaker 2: six war shortstop into the middle of your lineup. I

579
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Speaker 2: think you have to do it. It's such an important position.

580
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: Arcia has shown nothing the last eighteen months to suggest

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Speaker 2: that he's suddenly going to hit again, and he was

582
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Speaker 2: so bad, and to his credit, he does play a

583
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Speaker 2: perfectly fine defense at shortstop. That's the one thing I

584
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Speaker 2: think maybe the biggest argument against it is you could

585
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Speaker 2: pick left field and just roll with Arcia badam ninth

586
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: lineup should be better all of that. But for me,

587
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: if the Braves have a world where they can significantly

588
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: improve shortstop, I would take that option, and then you

589
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: just kind of piece together your outfield and hope that

590
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 2: Acunya is is healthy because frankly, if Acunya is not healthy,

591
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: you have bigger problems than who's your number three outfielder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't consult on this, of course, we had

593
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: the same opinion to some degree here, and it's because

594
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Speaker 1: of the positional value and also just how easy it

595
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Speaker 1: is to fix the outfield in theory. We've seen Alex

596
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: do it multiple times. It doesn't always work perfectly, but

597
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one that did it on the fly and

598
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: it was an absolute Grand Slam. Last year a little

599
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: bit less so, but so they're still hit, et cetera,

600
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: et cetera. And I am of the mind that you know,

601
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Speaker 1: shortstop is not it's a lot harder to fill, but

602
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: it's more important to fill, if that makes sense. So

603
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: if you're just saying in this hypothetic will he doesn't

604
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: talk about how you do it, but if you want

605
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Speaker 1: to just use Willa Dallas's example or whatever, like, if

606
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Speaker 1: you're just saying, all right, we're allowed to just go

607
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Speaker 1: grab a shortstop and go that that, I think you

608
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Speaker 1: do that a real shortstop. The other the argument against

609
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Speaker 1: that would be, and I think I believe this to

610
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Speaker 1: some degree, is that if you could add a high

611
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Speaker 1: level outfielder you have Kelnick for super cheap as your

612
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Speaker 1: fourth outfielder, right, And while I agree with you on

613
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Speaker 1: the pitch for orlan Arcia being his glove, I think

614
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Speaker 1: that Braves fans tend to overrate orland Arcia's glove. I

615
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: think he's he's not Andrelton Simmons.

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Speaker 2: Like I agree with you, I will get into arguments

617
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: with people on Twitter, which is my first mistake, but

618
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: like people act like he's Ozzie Smith Orranleton Simmons and

619
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Speaker 2: he's he's fine, but he's not that.

620
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I mean, the ideal of orland Arcia.

621
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Speaker 1: We've done before. But you know, there have been stretches

622
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Speaker 1: where he's hit and in league average level while also

623
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Speaker 1: playing good defense. And that's a good player, it is.

624
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Speaker 1: But last year he was effectively a worst glove Niki Lopez.

625
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: That's a that's a wow. But you know what I mean,

626
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: like Vicky Loveless is a better was a better defender

627
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: than on the n RCIA. The argument there is that

628
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: he just he just couldn't hit. But last year Arcia

629
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Speaker 1: just couldn't hit as well. So I'm not saying that

630
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Speaker 1: he has to be that bad on offense. He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I think there is a world where Orlando could post

632
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Speaker 1: in ninety doub rci plus next year. That isn't a

633
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: good hitter, but that would be a step above where

634
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Speaker 1: he was this year, and that player is playable, Like

635
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Speaker 1: there is a level world where Arcia can Arcia can

636
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Speaker 1: be a perfectly fine starting a shortstop that ninth if

637
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Speaker 1: he just hits a little. But last year he didn't hit.

638
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: He didn't hit a little, he hit none. So uh,

639
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: we agree on the answer. I am opened to the

640
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Speaker 1: other the other side, and that I think that using

641
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Speaker 1: the Braves for and look, I think snip would be

642
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: more careful than this. But the framing on Orlando has

643
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Speaker 1: kind of always been catch the ball, Orlando, We'll figure

644
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: out the rest. You could do that with somebody else,

645
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like doesn't have to be Orlando.

646
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: You could you could do that with another guy somewhere

647
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: else who's more anonymous or whatever. I think if and this,

648
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: this autism is very interesting because there is a guy

649
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: in a damis and I don't we don't know if

650
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: the Braves love him enough to pay him what he's

651
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna cost. We just don't know the answer to that.

652
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: But even if it's hass On Kim, like I would

653
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: probably just rather get hass On Kim if he's reasonably

654
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: healthy and figure out the outfield, then get the fifteen

655
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: million dollar left fielder and have to figure out throats

656
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: stop again personally, which is yeah, and you know, we're

657
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: trying to stay true to the question.

658
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: And I think folks, you know, there's obviously a million

659
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: ways the Braves who go here. Yeah, there's there's a

660
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: lot of nuance here that you can't do with this question,

661
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: which is why it's question, and it's a great question

662
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: because frankly, between okay, shortstop, outfield, starting rotation, now you

663
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: need an at least one impact reliever. You might need

664
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: a backup catcher as well. I mean, the Braves have

665
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: a pretty busy shopping list, and between money and prospects,

666
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: the brain might not be able to address all of

667
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: those in this one winter. And as we kind of

668
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 2: said a little while ago, you can probably survive with

669
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: one position in your lineup not hitting a ton, especially

670
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: if the other position has been upgraded with a legitimate bat.

671
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: And that was the whole plan for this past season,

672
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: was that everybody was going to hit, and frankly, it

673
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: was the plan in twenty twenty three, and the Braves

674
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: put up a historic offense. But you just, for for

675
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: many reasons, I think they have to make a significant

676
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: upgrade to at least one of these positions. And hey,

677
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: if they can do it where maybe they trade for

678
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: a cheaper, younger player at one and then pay money

679
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: for another at the other position, then that's probably best

680
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: case scenario. But again, a lot of things to get

681
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: to this winter, but a great question. You know, I

682
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: think you can make a strong argument either way.

683
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we leve this podcast with the question about,

684
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, adding one of the top free agents at

685
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: who we choose. There's another version of that that like, okay,

686
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: let's just ignore money for a second, which you can't do.

687
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: But if you ignored money and you took Sotal off

688
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: the board, because he becomes the answer very obviously. There

689
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: there's an argument that, well, I think Corbin Burns is

690
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: better than Willia Domas at baseball, the Braves might be better

691
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: adding Willyadamas than they would be Gordon Burns. There's an

692
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: argument for that because position player versus pitcher, et cetera,

693
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: et cetera. That maybe one maybe that's one, we'll answer

694
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: another time. It's like, all right, now, now we answered.

695
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: We answered about the contracts. Now throughout the contracts, pick

696
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: up free agent and add them to the roster. None

697
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: ones other division. Who would you choose? And I think

698
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: that your argument then becomes basically Corbyn Burns or whichever

699
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: started picture. But I think he's probably the guy versus

700
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: Willia Damas. I think because there's not there's not an

701
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: outfielder other than other than Sodo that's as good as

702
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: Willia Damas. I don't think on the market. And that's

703
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: interesting and that kind of again kind of tells you

704
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: shortstop is an interesting priority. And the debate, the debate,

705
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: it has already been raging for weeks. I know, I'm sure

706
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: you've seen it two on social media for Braves fans

707
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: like about William Damas and what do you want to

708
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: pay him? And I I'm not like absolutely falling in

709
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: love with Waya Damas, like I have to have him

710
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: on my roster, like but he's a really good player,

711
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: so oh yeah, I could be a swing skill here too,

712
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: And I'm yeah, we'll see, yeah.

713
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you know what it We've said it a

714
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: few times, but it should be a really interesting and

715
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: important offseason for this front office because there are a

716
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: lot of holes. Clearly based on what Fangraft thinks, this

717
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 2: is a really good excuse me, this is a really

718
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 2: good roster as is, without doing anything else. And if

719
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: the uh, you know, shortstop left field they think to

720
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: put a bow on this, one of those is going

721
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: to get upgraded significantly. My hunch is that it's more

722
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: likely to be the outfield, if I had to bet

723
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: on it. They will add an impact outfielder. They will

724
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: let Kelnick play right field until Acunya is ready, and

725
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: they will just run it back with Urcia and keep

726
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: catching the baseball and give us a little something, a

727
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: little something more in that ninth spot and everything will

728
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: be fine. That would be my guess. But I'm sure again,

729
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: if you could be a fly on the wall in

730
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: that office to hear the names they're talking about, maybe

731
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: they are ready to add a franchise shortstop of some kind,

732
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: whether it's in free agency or not, to go down

733
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: this rabbit hole. But is there a young shortstop somewhere

734
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: who you could trade like a Drake Baldwin for, which

735
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: would be like a super fun, pretty rare but like

736
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: a super fun trade idea franchise catcher for a franchise

737
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: shortstop potentially, is that something you're looking at? Hassan Kim

738
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: interesting player coming off shoulder surgery.

739
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: Is he you know?

740
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: What's his market?

741
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: Like? With Scott forres.

742
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: All of these are in play, and I'm really man,

743
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: I just want some movement and activity across the league

744
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: so we can get an idea of what the market

745
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: looks like. You know, if if the first three players

746
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 2: to sign all blow away their projections from MLB trade

747
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: roomers and fangrafts, then it's like, oh, baby, break out

748
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: the checkbook. This is going to be a great offseason

749
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: for the players. But if we go another couple of

750
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: weeks and like nobody has signed and the first big

751
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: free agent comes in a year less and thirty million

752
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: dollars less than what everybody was thinking, then it's like, Okay,

753
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: maybe it's it's more of a buyer's market and the

754
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: agents are not going to get quite as much as

755
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: everybody was thinking.

756
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll say this for later. There was a

757
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: question I don't remember whoever's sent it in about basically

758
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: what will I think about? It literally been what will

759
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Scott's reaction be, But what was your reaction be about?

760
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: Like if the Braves with a straight face looked at

761
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: us on opening day and said, here's Jared Kellick and

762
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Orlando Arcia and left field and shortstop again, what would

763
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: the reaction be? Not a very kind one on this podcast,

764
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: I would imagine from one Scott Coleman.

765
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: It depends who's in right field. But I understand the

766
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: question because if they added, you know, like if Lars

767
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: Newt bar is standing in right field, then hell, yeah, baby,

768
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: let's let's roll.

769
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: No, I think the implication was even with even when

770
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: Acuna is back, kem starting spot, please know, please know,

771
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: I I just.

772
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: We'll see, it would just be yeah, that would be

773
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: that would be a misuse of off season funds and priorities.

774
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: In my opinion, the only way to do that and

775
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: not make us absolutely melt down is if they get

776
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: like a giant splash in a rotation. Uh. And even

777
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't love it. But like if they end

778
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: up with Corbyn Burns and Nathany Ivaldi, then okay, whatever,

779
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, that's another rabbit hole for another day, Scott,

780
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: that's a mail bag podcast on a Tuesday evening, I think, Uh,

781
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: anything you want to add.

782
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: For me, Simo, nothing to add. Brad, nice to do

783
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: one of these with you. Wanted to give the folks

784
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: some more Braves content. I promise you at some point

785
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: we are going to have some transactions to talk about. Uh.

786
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: It may be a little while, but regardless, hope everybody

787
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: enjoyed the show. A big thank you to everybody who

788
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: sent in mail questions, and I promise you we will

789
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: get to them more of the questions you guys sent

790
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: in in the coming weeks. Yeah, I think we got

791
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: like forty questions combined. And yeah, I don't know. We

792
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: could have done like a four hour Madman Sicko show,

793
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: but I don't know if anybody would want.

794
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: To listen to that. There's still time. But also as

795
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: far as a looking ahead kind of thing, later on

796
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: this week is the non tender deadline lows on Friday.

797
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: That's not a huge landmark day, but it's a day

798
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: in which we'll learn some things. So Ramon Loiano is

799
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the big domino for the Braves. If they want to

800
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: tender him or not, that's a question that they still

801
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: haven't I answered, if they If they tender him, that

802
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: will be an interesting data point on this conversation because

803
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: that means Romal Loreano will be making enough money where

804
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: they probably have to play him because that's gonna be

805
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: some real money. So we'll see how that goes well,

806
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: have a podcast at some point talking about that, but uh,

807
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: just circle that one later on. That also involved gri

808
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Griffin Canning, which is a lower level than Loreano, but

809
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: another guy who's interesting and they have to sign on.

810
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: So that's the it's kind of a forced deadline. Obviously,

811
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: there could be a move before that, and hopefully for

812
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: our sake and for the podcast sake and for interest sake,

813
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: then there will be a move. But at the very latest,

814
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: there'll be some Brazes on Friday because they will have

815
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: to make a decision on Loreano and Canning and that

816
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: will be content for everybody.

817
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean as much as ten million dollars one

818
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: way or the other if yep, I believe both players

819
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: are projected about five million dollars next season, so significant.

820
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: It might give us a little bit of an insight

821
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: into what they're thinking for their plan. Of course, now

822
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: the Braves are that close to two months to kind

823
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: of figure out their off season path, so of course

824
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: very aggressive right out of the gate trade. So Laire

825
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: get out of his money. We'll see what they do.

826
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: On Canning and Loreano really, I mean, I don't know, Brad,

827
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: I've liked both of those are like fifty to fifty

828
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: decisions maybe yeah, yeah, Especially on Canning, I'm curious to

829
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: know if they actually like him or if they just

830
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: did it to make the angels, you know, to sell

831
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: the deal a little bit from a PR perspective. And

832
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: then Loreano he's an interesting player and you know he

833
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: was great with the Braves, terrible before that, made some

834
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: adjustments to a swing. But are you banking on him

835
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: running like a three eighty bad bit ball next season

836
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: and being good again wrongside to thirty?

837
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

838
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: It really does feel fifty to fifty to me.

839
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: We agree, and we'll have much more on that, I

840
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: promise you later on this week when those deals happen

841
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: or don't happen. But until then, please subscribe to the

842
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: Herbit Territory podcast anywhere you find your podcast. We're on Apple,

843
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: We're on Spotify, overcast YouTube if you want to watch

844
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: us over there. God bless you like the video as

845
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: you're watching it. Scott's got a bravesat on right now.

846
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: He's living life over there in Arizona. We're having fun

847
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I'm not at Puto, which people can

848
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: see on YouTube if they're watching it. But I'll be

849
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: back in my home studio next time. I got And yeah,

850
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: thanks we listen everybody. I very much appreciate it for Scott,

851
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: stay tuned. We'll see you all next time.