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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're worried

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Speaker 1: today's show, we'll be talking with ESPN and Anscape commentator

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Speaker 1: Ari Chambers about the high quality hoops r alma mater,

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Speaker 1: NC State is playing, her favorite to win this year's

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Speaker 1: NCAA Championship, players who could take leaps in the WNBA

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Speaker 1: thanks to their plan unrivaled, and her immense unique impact

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Speaker 1: on the women's sports space. It's all coming up right

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Speaker 1: after this, joining us now, she's a commentator for ESPN

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Speaker 1: and Ascape covering all things women's sports. Back in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: she founded Highlight, her Bleacher reports multi channel portfolio brand

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Speaker 1: focused on female athletes and teams, and she created the

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Speaker 1: now ubiquitous phrase the WNBA is so important. A former

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Speaker 1: Forbes Sports thirty Under thirty and an NC State grad

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Speaker 1: still celebrating that big hoops win over Notre Dame, It's

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Speaker 1: Ari Chambers what's up Ari?

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Speaker 2: How packed first and foremost, Sarah, In case you didn't know,

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Speaker 2: Conference champions, regular season, number one seed in ACC tournament,

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Speaker 2: we're NC State around these parts as you can see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured I should start with that because we

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Speaker 1: weren't going to get very far if I didn't ask

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Speaker 1: you about that first. So your NC State team has

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Speaker 1: this insane win over then number one Notre Dame. I

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Speaker 1: believe you were in studio hosting a pregame. Someone told

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Speaker 1: making it so clear, which, by the way, hilarious phrase.

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Speaker 1: Take us back to that, to that game and that upset.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I was like, why am I

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Speaker 2: probably best I'm not in Raleigh. As journalists, we have

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Speaker 2: to remove ourselves, right, remove our bias. But there's a

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Speaker 2: certain sense of pride witnessing what Wes Moore has been

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Speaker 2: past decade that he's been there. I was there at

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Speaker 2: the tail end of coach Kyo going into Kelly Harper

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Speaker 2: resurgence of North Carolina State has been great to witness.

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Speaker 2: But going into the game pregame, talking to Sanaia Rivers,

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Speaker 2: The students were camping out the night before, Coach West

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Speaker 2: Moore is obviously up for Coach of the Year, and

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Speaker 2: so outside of the basketball of it all, they were

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Speaker 2: playing for something much greater. College game day doesn't come

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Speaker 2: to NC State very often. It's something that they really

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times when we talk about collegiate basketball,

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Speaker 2: goes beyond just the x's and o's and just it

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Speaker 2: can be a pride thing, an ego thing, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to protect my court thing, And that's what you saw

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Speaker 2: with NC State going into the game. It's backcourt versus backcourt.

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Speaker 2: Right it was Olivia Miles, Hannah Heldago, Sonny Sitchron, and

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Speaker 2: the pace is great. The athletes are great top to bottom,

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Speaker 2: But what NC State was able to do is throw

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a nine to zero double overtime run

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Speaker 1: it matters right and watching that in women's sports over

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Speaker 1: And you know a perfect example of that is how

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Speaker 2: So it was the battle arguably of the national player

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Speaker 2: different positions. Lauren Betts draws so much defensive attention in

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Speaker 2: So that's what I think. I think that Juju on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty points this last time out. She's put up

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Speaker 2: Don't do this, team Sarah, keep going, but don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Who is the real number one in the country.

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Speaker 2: The parody is so prominent within the landscape right now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not going to cop out. I'm going to answer.

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Speaker 2: I think the number one team right now is different

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Speaker 2: you look at the South Carolinas of the world. They

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Speaker 2: This is not your question, Sarah. I'm so sorry for

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Speaker 2: they can turn it around, because Neil Ivey said, this

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Speaker 2: to win that we have lost within last week, and

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Speaker 2: Sony Citron was sitting next to her at that press

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Speaker 2: And this is exactly what you want in page Az

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Speaker 2: and Sarah when they're all healthy, they're one of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an unfair question.

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Speaker 2: There's like you didn't answer at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't answer, but it was unfair. There's

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Speaker 1: so much parity. But also to your point about shots,

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Speaker 1: different strengths. And I'm more confused heading into this tournament

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Speaker 1: be really difficult. I love chaos, though, I mean the

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Speaker 2: Thank you for bringing her up, because you know, I

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Speaker 2: first got announced of like, hey, w NBA needs to

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00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: do this. I'm like, you don't realize what the WNBA.

433
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: It's a team by team basis. These are team decisions.

434
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: They have to travel, they're not all one location. It's

435
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: a league that started in ninety seven, so the novelty

436
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 2: of it is not going to be the same. But

437
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: what can learn is that once you get player buy in,

438
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: you can create whatever content you want. What I love

439
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: about Unrivaled is that marketing wise, they really make a

440
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: concerted effort to do the full team, even though they

441
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: do only have six on their team, a full team

442
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: showcase of personalities and storytelling. They ask they let the

443
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: athletes do the trends that they want, which again can

444
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: be a conflict when it comes league side or team

445
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: side on the w n B a perspective because of

446
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: commercial use music, it's a whole different thing, but just

447
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: in general, the marketing just showcasing the full scope of

448
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: players social media being a little looser with that network

449
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: deal negotiations, and I understand that's a very unique perspective

450
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: with negotiating with WBD with that, but they really lucked out,

451
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: and it's a great luckout, if you can call it that,

452
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: because they were paid what their work. And I think.

453
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: There's discovery for those who are unfamiliar with all talk.

454
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: But just making sure that going for the leagues that

455
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: are to come are the leagues that are existing. Knowing

456
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: that women's sports valuation is up high, knowing that you

457
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: can sell this merch you can market them well. You can.

458
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: You can really lean into your player personalities, you can

459
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: hype it up. Hype it up. If nothing else, HiPE

460
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: it up so you can make it appealing to the audience.

461
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think their creativity was off the charts and

462
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: the way that they introduced each player or each team,

463
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: all that was huge. But your content point is a

464
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: massive one. It's something I talked to fee about when

465
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: she was on the show, which is if you get

466
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: the players to believe in what you're doing and think

467
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: you're doing it in a way that's good, they are

468
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: more willing to give you their time and effort. And

469
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: you see the way that they are having fun creating

470
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: content for the GRAM for the different team sites. It

471
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: feels different than in a lot of w spaces, and

472
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: again there is more freedom, there is a different there's

473
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: different rules, there's different sponsors, etc. But I think sometimes

474
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: when there's less of a connection between ownership and players,

475
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: there is less of a buying from the players to

476
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to help build. And in this case,

477
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: they have equity and they understand that the growth of

478
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: Unrivaled is the growth of their piggy banks as well,

479
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: so they feel very connected to those efforts. And you know,

480
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: having been an owner of the Red Stars, I struggled

481
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: sometimes with wanting the players to get more involved in

482
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: helping their own cause. But I also understood that demanding

483
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: of players without extra money for their time and effort

484
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: is hard to do if they're not bought in on

485
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: what you're doing. At the top and who you are

486
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: at the top, and so it's an interesting question. Yeah,

487
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: it's been interesting to watch Unrivaled and how in sync

488
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: every piece of it feels from top to bottom, which

489
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: is what happens when you've got players running the show

490
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: and players who know what other players want.

491
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Speaker 2: I wonder what that looks like for the WNBA, though,

492
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: like when you get back to your team, if individual

493
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: games can re strategize how to do content with them,

494
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: because I don't think that it's a lack of effort

495
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: on the league side. I know for a fact it's

496
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 2: not lack of effort on the league's side. And for teams,

497
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're doing what they can. But you do

498
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: have to count in the away games. You do have

499
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: to count in the fatigue. The overall it's just so much.

500
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: It's so different. That's why you see an influx of

501
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: content during media daytime, and then it kind of fees

502
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: out because they're locked in.

503
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: And they have lives, they have things to do. Right Unrivaled,

504
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: I mean there are it is hard to compare in

505
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, just because it's a very different situation.

506
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 1: It's an eight week bubble versus this multi month thing.

507
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: But there are some interesting things to look at and

508
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: to learn from. You've been at this women's sports game forever,

509
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: well before everybody else was on board. How does it

510
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: feel for you personally to see this incredible growth in

511
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: recent years. I'm curious, especially because I think it's awesome

512
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: when people say to me, oh, Sarah, you were You've

513
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: been doing this forever. You've been, you know, doing it

514
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: at espnW for fifteen years. You were right, you were

515
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: telling everybody. And it feels good, and it also feels

516
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: bittersweet because it's like, yeah, if there had just been

517
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: more of this investment and media attention and everything else,

518
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: we could have been here so much sooner. So it's

519
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: it's nice and it's also a little I.

520
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: Told you yeah. And I don't want to come off

521
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: sounding like a dark cloud or like Daria or something.

522
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: Daria just want to make sure. I just want to

523
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: make sure that when we have this surge of I

524
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: want to invest, I want to invest, I want to

525
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: want to buy into this, that it's sustained. That is

526
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: what the word novelty keeps coming up to me. And

527
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: it's just I want to make sure that the capitalizing

528
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: off the moment is beyond the moment in the movement,

529
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 2: it's literally just the norm. I want this to be

530
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: the norm, not a movement, not a moment, but the norm, because,

531
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: like you said, it's been a great thing. We've been

532
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: telling people it's great, and I want to make sure

533
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: that it stays innovative enough, or I want people to

534
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: just put it in their everyday lives enough that we

535
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 2: don't have to push and keep fighting and keep fighting

536
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: to sustain what we have right now. So I'm proud

537
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: that the old ceiling is the new floor, but I

538
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: can't wait to see how we continue to build in

539
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: the women's sports space and allow so much more opportunity

540
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: to come. That's where I'm at with it. Also, not

541
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: to get to I can take this there, but I

542
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 2: want to make sure all women are protected. All women

543
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: are protected, and so that's what I'm worried about, because

544
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: when when a group of people are being targeted, that

545
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: puts everything in women's sports that we've been working to

546
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: achieve at risk. And so that's something that I'm going

547
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: to be looking at for and fighting for forever.

548
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't seem to recognize that

549
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: they're very shortsighted in their pursuit of certain legislative goals,

550
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: completely blind to the long term effects it can have

551
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: on larger things, including just the existence of Title nine altogether.

552
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

553
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: I also I think it sounds like you've ended up

554
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: in a place that I've ended up, Which is why

555
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: this show exists, Which is the understanding that it can't

556
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: constantly be a novelty and a new unicorn that arrives

557
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: that gets people fired up and interested and then they

558
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: go away. It's about sustained knowledge and understanding of the games, players, leagues,

559
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: and events. And we've been doing that for men's sports

560
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: for one hundred years, and in women's sports. We fail

561
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: so much as a media to give people consistent connective

562
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: tissue to tie together to care about at the largest levels,

563
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: not content creators like you that have been doing it forever,

564
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: but at the largest levels. We drop in for championships,

565
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: and we come back for the start of the season,

566
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: and we miss everything in the middle, and then we

567
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: ask why people aren't invested. And you don't need a

568
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: novelty of a new superstar every five months if you

569
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: have existing stars and rivalries and storylines and they used

570
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: to play here and now they're here and all the

571
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: other things that keep us invested on the men's side.

572
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: That's what we need to provide at the best and

573
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: highest level in the women's sports world for people for

574
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: it to be sustainable. Is there something you think people

575
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: are still getting wrong about women's sports or something you

576
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: wish people knew or understood.

577
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I wish people knew that Title nine is at risk

578
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: and that we have to continue to fight for women's equity,

579
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: equality and resources. I wish people knew that you don't

580
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: have to be reliant on megastorylines to be invested. I

581
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: wish the people who want to be in our spaces

582
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Sarah know that they don't have to wait for their yes.

583
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: They can tell the stories on their own. We have

584
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: all the tools we need with social media your phones

585
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: to be able to cover the sport in the way

586
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: that we want to. There's so much room in space

587
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: for everybody who's enthusiastic and passionate about this to be

588
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: involved and to contribute, and so your contribution isn't based

589
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: on major network backing. I want people to know that

590
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: these athletes are human and they're also athletes, and we

591
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: don't have to coddle them, but we also should not

592
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: put them in a position to lose. It's our responsibility

593
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: if you assume that, to continue to do the things

594
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: we're doing, and those who are overconfident in the place

595
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: of women's sports right now, I just I really want

596
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: you to maintain that optimism and continue to be privy

597
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: to what's going on in the sports landscape.

598
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: Be vigilant. If you are listening and you care about

599
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: this stuff and you're like, oh, but I don't know

600
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: this or that, or I'm not connected to this. That

601
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Ari is the most incredible example of someone who is

602
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: just like, this is something that matters to me, This

603
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: is something people should care about. So I'm just going

604
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: to start showing up and doing the work. And now

605
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: you're with ESPN and you're traveling all over the world

606
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: and you're just killing it, and you're so a great

607
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: example of putting the work behind the passion and then

608
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: seeing where that takes you, and so many people could

609
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: learn from from that. Before I let you go, what's next?

610
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Because we focused on basketball, But I mean, girl, you're

611
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: covering gymnastics, you show up for the cheerleading stuff, you're

612
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: for brands like, do you have anything cool coming up?

613
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: We should know about Well, first, y'all should know that

614
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: gymnastics and cheer are my first love. Anyway, She's a

615
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: basketball gally, but she's also a gym and cheergirly. I'm

616
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: going right back down to Unrivaled, and then obviously we

617
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: have March Madness chaos, but I never miss a gymnastics championship.

618
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: I have some fun things playing with cheering gymnastics in April.

619
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Two very different sports though, don't get it twisted, but

620
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: get it twisted, twist, but just just I know this

621
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: again was not the question, But anybody out there who's

622
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: enthusiastic about women's sports, make your own content and see

623
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: where it takes you. I just really get excited to

624
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: see new creators every single day pushing the game for it.

625
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: So yes, I'm gonna be pushing. I just finished up

626
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: my sideline assignments at Athletes Unlimited, which is another greatly

627
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: that serves as an opportunity for players to sharpen their game,

628
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: whether it's w NBA or you know, professional basketball any

629
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: other level. But I just finished that assignment, going down

630
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: Unrivaled next week, and then taking a much needed vacation

631
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: because we need to pour from a full cup for

632
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: your saucer and then going into march madness.

633
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: You say that as I'm down to my final breath

634
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: and my last my last straw here on my many

635
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: many many city vacation slash work trip. So pourn from

636
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: a full cup is something I'm unfamiliar with, but I'm

637
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: gonna work on that.

638
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: We'll get it together.

639
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: We got this, Ari, Thank you so much for the time.

640
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: We love you so much and hope to see you

641
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: in Tampa.

642
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Sarah, you will see me in Tampa, and we're gonna frolic.

643
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna we.

644
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Aren't gonna follow it. Thanks so much to Ari for

645
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: hopping on. We have to take another break. When we return,

646
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: a wildcat joins a duck and a hawkeye. Welcome back, Slices.

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Speaker 1: good game play of the day. Follow Ari on social media.

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Speaker 1: told you this on the show. Title nine is at risk.

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Speaker 1: We tend to talk about it a lot at a

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Speaker 1: macro level, but there might be some Title nine issues

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Speaker 1: happening closer to home than you think. If you live

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Speaker 1: have kids in your local schools, tap in with local groups,

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Speaker 1: do a little research about how you can get involved

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Speaker 1: watch Kentucky's Georgia Amore joining an exclusive club rating three

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Speaker 1: out of three Superstars review. Heading into this season, just

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Speaker 1: two Division one women's basketball players in history had scored

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Speaker 1: over twenty three hundred career points and posted at least

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Speaker 1: eight hundred career assists, but that number is now three.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky's Georgia Amore joined Iowa's Caitlin Clark and oregon sabrinian Escu,

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Speaker 1: hitting the eight hundred assist mark in late January and

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Speaker 1: the twenty three hundred point mark in mid February. After

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Speaker 1: Kentucky's regular season finale last weekend a lost to South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Amore sits at two thy, three hundred and seventy nine

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Speaker 1: career points and eight hundred forty eight career assists. Congrats

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Speaker 1: to Georgia Amore. You're in rare air with Clark and Yonescu.

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn slices, rate and review. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. Good a good game, NC State. You

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