Speaker 1: The volume, much better start today. Eric says, very very correct.
Speaker 1: It's great to see you guys. Welcome to Hoopson. I
Speaker 1: here at the volume. I've on playback and we are
Speaker 1: going to be covering game four, I should say, rewatching
Speaker 1: game four of the twenty twenty two NBA Finals today.
Speaker 1: I have not rewatched this game since. You know, I've
Speaker 1: seen the highlights of Steph's night a few times going
Speaker 1: around on Twitter, but I have not reached rewatched this
Speaker 1: game in a long time. Jackson. What's your like flashpoint
Speaker 1: memory of this game before we started up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was producing the Draymond Green Show at this point,
Speaker 3: and I had attended game one, which was a Celtics
Speaker 3: game one on the road. Steal uh and Sowter comeback
Speaker 3: right there, quarter comeback. They made a bunch of three
Speaker 3: is Derek Waye, Al Horford, Mark smartro Cash in Three's
Speaker 3: game one and then.
Speaker 4: You know it's at this point Selly Strup.
Speaker 3: They split the next two after that, Celtics Thrup two
Speaker 3: to one, and that you were We're getting a little
Speaker 3: bit of like is the left forcing the Celtics left
Speaker 3: thing going to be an issue? There was like when
Speaker 3: I was doing the research for this game. I forgot
Speaker 3: that Steph was kind of banged up in Game three
Speaker 3: because Marcus Smart had dove on his her do for
Speaker 3: a loose ball kind of rolled up on his ankle
Speaker 3: a little bit. So even some questions was Steph not
Speaker 3: that if what he's going to play? It's the NBA Finals,
Speaker 3: But like was he how healthy is Steph Curry? Oh no,
Speaker 3: it's his twenty fifteen all over again or whate twenty
Speaker 3: sixteen all over again. But I was still feeling reasonably
Speaker 3: confident as a Celtics fan. And but there was like
Speaker 3: a little bit of the are the Warriors defensively figuring
Speaker 3: out a little bit how to guard the Celtics, which
Speaker 3: was a little worrisome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know I think you had told me
Speaker 1: once upon a time that Draymond like told you that
Speaker 1: like early in this series that they were like, we're
Speaker 1: going to get this thing done.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any issue with me sharing this
Speaker 3: at this point because he's talked about it since. Is
Speaker 3: that after Game one when the Celtics won, he was
Speaker 3: so confident, he was like, Oh, we're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 3: beat them easily. And I was like, what do you
Speaker 3: mean you're gonna beat them easily? They just won the game.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, now, as long as Steve lets
Speaker 3: me guard Jalen Brown. He's like, what you never know,
Speaker 3: because like sometimes matchups aren't that simple. He's like, but
Speaker 3: as long as Steve lets me gud Jaleen Brown, I
Speaker 3: think we're gonna win.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the heck is this guy talking about?
Speaker 1: Well, you first told me that story. I was like,
Speaker 1: what a cool fucking story, Like you literally what a
Speaker 1: cool little slice of NBA history that down one zero
Speaker 1: in the series, Draymond straight up called his shots it
Speaker 1: was certain, and then came back and got the deal done.
Speaker 1: But uh, I, you know, on the basketball front, I
Speaker 1: remember the big story of this series centered around the
Speaker 1: Celtics coverages basically not blitzing ball screens or really switching
Speaker 1: ball screens. They started to do some switching down the
Speaker 1: stretch of this game, if I remember correctly, but it
Speaker 1: basically centered around like, how are the Warriors gonna guard
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown? Because Andrew Wiggins kind of had Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: under control for the most part, but it was like,
Speaker 1: how are the year is gonna guard Jalen Brown, and
Speaker 1: then are the Celtics gonna be able to handle Steph
Speaker 1: Curry in ball screens because they were running essentially a
Speaker 1: modified high drop where they were trying to not allow
Speaker 1: the pocket pass, essentially like bringing the big up high
Speaker 1: enough to get a late contest on threes, but not
Speaker 1: necessarily so high that it's the easy four on threes
Speaker 1: off of the drop offs. And Steph was just torching
Speaker 1: that by hitting like really tough pull up threes. But
Speaker 1: I also remember him hitting some super tough shots that
Speaker 1: just happened in like the flow of the game, like
Speaker 1: tough transition pull ups, tough like off the catch when
Speaker 1: moving type of shots. So I just remember it being
Speaker 1: like a shot making display from Steph. And I also
Speaker 1: remember some really good on ball defense from Clay in
Speaker 1: this game. But again, we haven't watched this in years,
Speaker 1: so I'm really excited to get into it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: start it right up today. We're gonna watch the entire game. Well,
Speaker 1: I we'll see how we do exactly for time, but
Speaker 1: the plan is as of right now to watch the
Speaker 1: entire game and we're just gonna talk through it and
Speaker 1: enjoy it altogether.
Speaker 4: All right, right, you can see this, right, I right
Speaker 4: can see this.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it Junior his first guard of the play.
Speaker 3: Then as as the last time, let us know from
Speaker 3: the game volume if it's too loud, too quiet, whatnot?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you go up to the tiny bitch.
Speaker 3: The lineup change going from from Rooney to Auto quarters
Speaker 3: on the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Gotcha the last time Auto Border was healthy for his
Speaker 1: moment right guarded. Celtics got a little four on three
Speaker 1: there and picked up.
Speaker 5: The roller take away into defense right there, an easy pick.
Speaker 6: And to me, it's basically says we're going to try
Speaker 6: to win it offensively, at least early in the ball game.
Speaker 1: Because he's reading the physicality of NBA playoff defense. Jay Brown,
Speaker 1: there's day Brown is take too.
Speaker 2: He's shown he's a month he really lost then.
Speaker 1: Left the inside hand. That's you know, there's a shout out.
Speaker 1: Don Banks players back.
Speaker 2: Into used to forge people with.
Speaker 1: That movement, like Hans with the left is crazy.
Speaker 2: You got them on the block and on the offensive boards.
Speaker 2: I hate him on step.
Speaker 1: Look at how they're shrinking into the driving way and
Speaker 1: see like it's io ball, but there's no driving way.
Speaker 2: Blue hand in the cookie yard.
Speaker 7: Steph Perry, I found trouble in game three, picks up
Speaker 7: the first one just over a minute.
Speaker 2: In the game four, Jacob and the chot.
Speaker 3: What happened out of border is he got hurt and
Speaker 3: basically never played.
Speaker 2: Or chill because you're right.
Speaker 4: He bawled out that.
Speaker 1: That was what he just had, such a smooth young
Speaker 1: shot man.
Speaker 2: He wanted tom his leg.
Speaker 4: I mean that's basically just like they have to rotate.
Speaker 2: He couldn't play basketball.
Speaker 4: Is it's so crazy this stat? Get thirty four percent
Speaker 4: from the field four percent.
Speaker 1: Just one yeah, like a dasts in his career. Like, uh,
Speaker 1: the finals just felt a little big for him. But
Speaker 1: he did hit you three points.
Speaker 2: That the ball finch just to Marcus Smart smart too. Defense.
Speaker 1: See how Robert Williams is up but not up super high,
Speaker 1: like he's there to offer a contest, but he's not
Speaker 1: creaking away to pull up off, which we haven't seen
Speaker 1: very much of.
Speaker 3: That that was that was that I think Warriors spending
Speaker 3: the correction he doesn't always yet, but getting that probably
Speaker 3: the slightly just ticky tackle.
Speaker 2: One on the other end, he got his own right after.
Speaker 1: For as great as Lebron and Steph were, and they're
Speaker 1: the two best players of their era. Neither of them
Speaker 1: were good at grift thing. They never had that part
Speaker 1: of their game.
Speaker 2: For your three still one.
Speaker 5: Points, Jack, You coach Curry for three years.
Speaker 1: Did he It's such a bummer because he was slam says,
Speaker 1: it's such a bummer because he was the perfect fit
Speaker 1: for what the Dugs new from the four.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like just a big, versatile defender that can hit threes,
Speaker 1: drive close out to play in the remake a to me.
Speaker 8: This is the first time.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy that in response to the ankle
Speaker 4: or not, the modern bast lost specially that auto border,
Speaker 4: Like this version of auto border is almost certainly.
Speaker 3: Like the more contributes more towards playoff winning basketball than
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kers.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the simple basketball philosophy that I think
Speaker 1: so many people get struggle to figure out with this
Speaker 1: commune situation. You're we talked about it with Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: all the time, Like your value is.
Speaker 2: Unique is the three.
Speaker 1: Tatum and the Warriors just put an extremely high emphasis
Speaker 1: on basketball like in the row because they generate so
Speaker 1: many four on threes that are going towards the basket.
Speaker 7: Like just spot up shooting essentially smart play lost Tatum there.
Speaker 1: And once again Tatum's three point shot with dial.
Speaker 3: In Marcus Smart you know, up and down player, frustrating
Speaker 3: player at times, but.
Speaker 4: He makes a lot of really select plays. He's going
Speaker 4: to be a.
Speaker 2: Very fun person for.
Speaker 1: He's always been on the short list of guys that is,
Speaker 1: like when he was healthy, he was on the shortlist
Speaker 1: of guys that would get over six assists per game
Speaker 1: on less than two thirdle game. I remember that was
Speaker 1: a list that was Smart always made it. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: really excited about Smart too. I just my basketball fanhood
Speaker 1: is like having a really hard time taking them serious.
Speaker 2: Option.
Speaker 4: Yeah the hell stuff.
Speaker 2: Has always being an issue, especially the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: I got a lit on the basket for the Warriors,
Speaker 3: a nice pass even, yeah, even that's a nice toss
Speaker 3: from the list.
Speaker 1: Really miss hip Robert Young Robert Williams was a pink.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping he doesn't stay.
Speaker 2: Healthy in the long run. This blockouts that time remarks
Speaker 2: star blowing up screams. Oh picked, He's a really good
Speaker 2: defense Smart.
Speaker 1: That's right. I forgot. They kind of blew the doors
Speaker 1: off him to start this game. And then the Warriors
Speaker 1: worked their way back.
Speaker 3: The Lawyers have four points in three minutes, yep, and
Speaker 3: Steph finishes this game with forty three.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just swarming right now defensively, can't do that
Speaker 2: get too far back, Marcus Lucky.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because, like I tend to think
Speaker 1: a lot of these nights where guys go crazy, start
Speaker 1: looks early, even if they missed it. Starts when Queen
Speaker 1: looks early, and they get.
Speaker 2: Really good, really good rhythm.
Speaker 7: We'll push it off the floor there actually Seves some
Speaker 7: room kicks it out Porter A three there.
Speaker 1: As a hit the Yeah, all these jumpers are off steps.
Speaker 1: Last one though it was just a little bit short,
Speaker 1: so you can tell he's starting to get a dial
Speaker 1: on then.
Speaker 2: And like it and early seven point Boston.
Speaker 1: Clay on Jalen, and you know, I thought Clay really
Speaker 1: started to see your Jalin out by the Carol end
Speaker 1: of this series, Extra pastor.
Speaker 2: Wiggins Wiggins, oh Man, Sure good looks. Though.
Speaker 7: You know, we talked so much about Boston and their
Speaker 7: ability to bounce back after losses, the Warriors have been
Speaker 7: almost as good. They're five and old following losses in
Speaker 7: this postseason. They've always found.
Speaker 3: Bat switch nice reflection from Graymond, surprising surprise, and nobuddy dude.
Speaker 1: Steph has always been good at lay ups and traffic
Speaker 1: to he just uses his body to shield the ball.
Speaker 2: He's a really good It's rare that Robert Williams block us.
Speaker 2: You don't see that very often from Steph.
Speaker 1: And Robert Williams seemingly appeared out of nowhere. There Raymond's
Speaker 1: on jailing this position.
Speaker 4: Look at that left hand shade.
Speaker 1: Ye given space, great contaction, and that's just that's Robert Williams.
Speaker 1: And that's the downside when you got Raymond is the
Speaker 1: only big on the four, and you use him when
Speaker 1: you ploy him on the wings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the crux of the Warriors line up is shoes.
Speaker 3: It's that problem right there.
Speaker 4: Offensively and in some ways defensively. You're better with him
Speaker 4: as a center as you're only big.
Speaker 2: But one of them gets is that it puts on.
Speaker 1: And it's really when it comes down to any sort
Speaker 1: of switching, whether it's you know, in this case, a
Speaker 1: lineup or a matchup decision, or if you switch ball
Speaker 1: screens just you leave the big underneath the basketing. It's
Speaker 1: as small and like if the mist goes anywhere in
Speaker 1: his area.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get it twenty Yeah, and I think thinking
Speaker 3: about it now like that looking back on his era,
Speaker 3: not even this air for Warriors, but like the one before.
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson being a top five to eight guard wing
Speaker 3: defender in the league while also being the second shooter
Speaker 3: in the NBA really helps unlock some of their issues
Speaker 3: because it's like, Okay, yeah, we'll be small when dres
Speaker 3: the center, but we have elite wing defenders and we
Speaker 3: have blow the doors off shooting, like it's not using
Speaker 3: as much as other teams would be going that small.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your guys in your prime, in their primes,
Speaker 1: rebounded well for their size.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look at Derek White with pair man.
Speaker 8: I know I was thinking about the.
Speaker 3: Shiny shiny packs and the at hilarious auto quarters.
Speaker 4: They are taller and going on until it is hilarious.
Speaker 2: I know it is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Dude, A wife out screen from Looney there. Thanks for
Speaker 1: the kind of words, Jared, Uh, Dude, I like the
Speaker 1: playoffs are stressful as hell, but if you stay focused
Speaker 1: on the x's and o's, it helped to start to
Speaker 1: talk your way through it, you can at least understand
Speaker 1: what's happening. Thompson's actually, yeah, that's like a lot of
Speaker 1: times reps react to the the legal screens in the NBA.
Speaker 2: That's yea.
Speaker 1: Also, Jared, this was our first playoff round with hoops tonight.
Speaker 1: This was in This was in June. I just got
Speaker 1: hired by the Volume in February. A lot of attacking
Speaker 1: stuff to get how they got him in the driving lane, though,
Speaker 1: see that it's going to go against a lot of times,
Speaker 1: like when it comes to mashup attacking and like uh
Speaker 1: and like detecting your weakest links. The biggest thing is
Speaker 1: the back four. It's not even necessary, like obviously you
Speaker 1: need your guy on the ball to you need him
Speaker 1: to play physical and not give ground and catches in
Speaker 1: tough spots and all that kind of stuff. But it
Speaker 1: looks a lot of times you give your guy a
Speaker 1: fighting chance if you make him the only count for
Speaker 1: one or two things, because he's got guys in the
Speaker 1: gaps and guys at the rim. And like with Steph,
Speaker 1: it's like you can tell he can attack the basketball
Speaker 1: and just position himself between tat him in the rim
Speaker 1: and the rest of the defense will clean up.
Speaker 2: Everything else Vader's past Thompsons.
Speaker 4: The other funny Derek White thing about.
Speaker 1: She had taken that three.
Speaker 2: He had a good look at play.
Speaker 3: Derek White with hair is obviously jarring thinking about the
Speaker 3: way that myself and everyone viewed his game at the
Speaker 3: time compared to how we view him low Like it
Speaker 3: was shocking in game one and he made I want
Speaker 3: to say it's so.
Speaker 4: It was like, this is no way this happens again.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have it.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have a multiple off nights that now he's
Speaker 4: just like ultimate, like he's.
Speaker 2: I know, dude, he.
Speaker 1: Really really came on strong over the course of this
Speaker 1: season and it is just time to do the job
Speaker 1: that they needed him to do.
Speaker 2: But no drop on that. You see where the big.
Speaker 1: Wasford's way back in the lane, they're basically conceding movement three.
Speaker 1: Took a really good screen there too, and.
Speaker 4: The passion the four is now they're good.
Speaker 2: Draymond did not score in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: That's left old bomb short baseline Flotter is a Derek
Speaker 3: wi special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steph did a good job just fairly bumping in
Speaker 1: to see where Howford's at. He's up Harry Love three.
Speaker 1: We'll go and j Brown is shaking.
Speaker 2: Upon that screen. Slow.
Speaker 4: What an offensive rebounder for someone who.
Speaker 1: Got a clean look early. So Wiggans got a clean
Speaker 1: look early and missed. They got another clean looking at
Speaker 1: that one. Notice Boston hasn't scored here in.
Speaker 2: A few minutes yet.
Speaker 8: I believe solid screens.
Speaker 6: They've played a clear happit'll push the basketball off of
Speaker 6: Bakes all business.
Speaker 2: We want to play with things.
Speaker 1: Tatum turns, shoots the scores tot of that possession. Like
Speaker 1: we're gonna go against Tatum's primary matchup with the left
Speaker 1: shoulder fate in the ear.
Speaker 2: But it's a weird shot considering that in a mini.
Speaker 7: Draft, Thompson drives Olden State just four of thirteen.
Speaker 1: Sanl Brown's got stah. But they're going to post up
Speaker 1: Corford on Draymond. They lose Derek White on the cut,
Speaker 1: nice block and we got a found.
Speaker 2: Ice move them off the ball from Derek White.
Speaker 1: Bernie Johnson's haircut says Looney was an animal on the
Speaker 1: boards in these playoffs. What is the Is it was
Speaker 1: it Riley or Jackson that said that no rebounds, no rings.
Speaker 2: I think it's that right, space he needs and then
Speaker 2: Looney no rebounds, no rings.
Speaker 5: Rebound, Curry drives it and a nice play to Wiggins.
Speaker 1: Those offensive rebounds effectively create rotation situations naturally because everyone's
Speaker 1: just in chaos while the while they're trying to search
Speaker 1: for a rebounding match.
Speaker 4: I've never heard that described like that.
Speaker 2: That is such a good way to put that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just no one's like you usually have guys
Speaker 1: that are not matched up because guys are have their
Speaker 1: back turned so the dude they're guarding. In a lot
Speaker 1: of cases and a lot of offensive rebounds platings are amazing,
Speaker 1: although we.
Speaker 3: Could do Everyone alway says the best time to shoot
Speaker 3: three off offensive time, and I hardly agree that the
Speaker 3: rotation like all rotation elements something.
Speaker 2: God Grant Williams talk about to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite seems like a nice guy by all accounts,
Speaker 3: and I think he's not even bad, but he was
Speaker 3: just deeply frustrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I had a lot of respect the
Speaker 1: job he did on Giannis in the twenty four to
Speaker 1: two Eastern Semis, but like, outside of that, I've never been.
Speaker 7: In much and those for the fake there, Curry gets
Speaker 7: a back double team the defense.
Speaker 1: If there's a ball screen, Horford's back. See how Horford's
Speaker 1: not giving up the role. That was really the big
Speaker 1: thing that like it's gonna concede some decent looks as
Speaker 1: Boston role. And like, by the way, if I remember correct,
Speaker 1: when one of the I don't remember which reporter it was,
Speaker 1: reporter straight up asked, you know you go about it
Speaker 1: early in the series, and he basically said, it's very.
Speaker 2: Important lesson and not give up four and threes.
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Speaker 1: By the way they have it, there hasn't been a
Speaker 1: single four on three that they've given up your area
Speaker 1: chicken wings.
Speaker 2: That's two fouls on Draymond Green, who was spiled out
Speaker 2: of two of the man.
Speaker 3: If he said eight minus end of this game, I
Speaker 3: wish would be up by four, Draymond would have two
Speaker 3: fouls and stuff would have one made.
Speaker 2: The place of Draymond Green.
Speaker 1: With those two founds and Green getting his first stand, he's.
Speaker 4: Been a good action.
Speaker 1: He's been great defensively. Then the thing with Draymond is
Speaker 1: like he'll have some nice, refrustrating offense, but he is
Speaker 1: like consistently destructive.
Speaker 2: To another team's offense.
Speaker 1: I spend Williams extra pass, Grant Williams, Dylan Brown's wide open.
Speaker 1: He's given was an attitude to we're gonna.
Speaker 7: Looney again coming off the bench, already has five rebounds.
Speaker 1: He looked for Wiggins off going under the shot. They're
Speaker 1: going from Wiggans Wiggins all playoffs. Bro just provided the buckets.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable playoffs, got himself an extremely libert in contact.
Speaker 1: And then never again was the same again. Con I
Speaker 1: think he's been a little underrated in the year since
Speaker 1: as a primter defender. But he just hasn't been the
Speaker 1: same two way guy that he was.
Speaker 7: Steve Kurk very upset he that Looney went straight up.
Speaker 7: He said, it's a second foul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Looney's picked up a couple of questionable little Look
Speaker 1: at that Marcus smart Way under you gotta take that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the notos at home and I especially in Wiggins role on.
Speaker 8: This particular, and I think both are poor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 1: We got raps reacting to the content, to the flops,
Speaker 1: not the flops, but to the drops.
Speaker 7: I should say, right back to the free throw line
Speaker 7: upcoming final schedule.
Speaker 1: I can't. I think I was listening to Low and
Speaker 1: Simmons that they were talking about Derek White as a
Speaker 1: potential trade target for between games time for Houston. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think Derek White a really good player,
Speaker 1: but I actually don't want high volume n So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the exact type of guy that i'd be going.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: I like Derek White as an off guard, like as
Speaker 1: a guy like playing alongside.
Speaker 2: Another talk about his defense.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and and I almost looked at him and
Speaker 1: Dran as the guys I already wanted to my second.
Speaker 9: Guy, I will never quit Gartay is he got the
Speaker 9: he got the cross match he wanted in transition against
Speaker 9: Corford and then just.
Speaker 2: Broke him off in the half.
Speaker 5: Cour renswer defensively, but Golden State is lethal in.
Speaker 2: This is three.
Speaker 1: Therefore their next five white pins Brown, nice pass, he's
Speaker 1: eye off the ball, slate clock clock at four, smart
Speaker 1: and contested three drop city.
Speaker 2: That the movie.
Speaker 4: Ordering that he s in a step the first.
Speaker 2: Another long distance shot point. Oh, he knows it, he
Speaker 2: knows it's twelve.
Speaker 1: That's got.
Speaker 3: That's someone who those first couple of misses that he
Speaker 3: just barely missed, he thought they were going in and
Speaker 3: now that he's made a couple in a row.
Speaker 4: And Dre talked about this as I talked about this
Speaker 4: after the fact that this was in the.
Speaker 3: In the real height after a couple of bad games
Speaker 3: from Raymond Green and he had gotten into But also
Speaker 3: what Jaylen Brown like the fans.
Speaker 4: Were the walls were closing in on him a little bit.
Speaker 3: In a way that was both fair from a basketball
Speaker 3: analyticals and point, and also like with the fans and.
Speaker 4: Crossing the line a little bit. Yeah, they apparently you.
Speaker 2: Know we're not as about Robert Williams, we're saying some
Speaker 2: inappropriate thing.
Speaker 4: So he's talked about how steph uh. I think he
Speaker 4: said that Step told him like explicitly but also gives.
Speaker 3: Also even just spiritually, was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make this game about me, like earlier, I'm gonna take
Speaker 3: any focus away from.
Speaker 2: This like Wheat Raymond thing. It was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: this is my game.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting, Yeah, because he was basically going right
Speaker 1: out the crowd there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the fifth turnover.
Speaker 1: That's such a strange mistake to see from the part.
Speaker 6: Takes it to the body at Porter doesn't get much
Speaker 6: chanced to block those.
Speaker 1: Two hits that he had on Horford, nasty hits. One
Speaker 1: was on that crazy step back, the second one was
Speaker 1: like they're.
Speaker 8: Just overwhelmed size wise.
Speaker 1: Him drive break defense was Garry Peyton, but he engaged
Speaker 1: the rim protector, and as soon as he engaged the
Speaker 1: rim protector, rob was.
Speaker 2: Just just pretty point five rebounds and shot.
Speaker 1: It's one of those ones and he probably needs to
Speaker 1: just let him go up and Jordan going, we're not
Speaker 1: going to get to a game six rewatch. But Jordan
Speaker 1: was so good in game six, remember and almostill file
Speaker 1: away from the You know, we were talking about Malik
Speaker 1: Monk Williams in our kaminga video and like cool is
Speaker 1: the guy that I think in terms of Malik Monk's
Speaker 1: role like just kind of a microwave scoring guard.
Speaker 8: He has to rotate to help.
Speaker 4: It's just too smell, Like, uh, Malik Monk closes out
Speaker 4: was just like an.
Speaker 1: That was an insane shot. You see him with just
Speaker 1: his angle around rob right in front of him.
Speaker 2: He's cooking.
Speaker 3: He's for whatever reason, feels and plays bigger than six threes.
Speaker 4: He's listed at six stool, but he doesn't seem that size.
Speaker 1: He's a ridiculous athlete and he plays He's got a
Speaker 1: very good motor. Like even his defense issues they aren't
Speaker 1: related to him not playing hard. They're related to like
Speaker 1: defensive IQ and like getting out of position and like
Speaker 1: some fundamental stuff. But like, yeah, any athlete, like a
Speaker 1: guy who's like super athletic win has a natural ability
Speaker 1: to play hard, just going to play bigger than old
Speaker 1: god dude too tough buck against against prop notice on
Speaker 1: that one, Like this is one of those things you
Speaker 1: gotta do when you're going at a big at the rim,
Speaker 1: you gotta go into their chest because as soon as
Speaker 1: you their chest and they can't get up like if
Speaker 1: with their see grant when you take the right one
Speaker 1: when you're open. But uh, but yeah, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta cave the big chest in. As soon as you
Speaker 1: cave his chest in, then you'll have that space when
Speaker 1: you get something up off the glass.
Speaker 8: Celtics now up one. And I heard you tell your
Speaker 8: guys early re quarter.
Speaker 4: You're good with everything they're doing.
Speaker 2: What specifically do you like? Just like the energy and
Speaker 2: the aggression.
Speaker 1: All right, we got a fool lead unit here the
Speaker 1: three game with Raymond. That's a tough shot.
Speaker 4: Really good at basketball, Thank you, coach.
Speaker 2: I love it. Even in the finals, Tatum gets excited.
Speaker 1: Miss looked like you just kind of lost the handles
Speaker 1: and going up there the defense to Wigans, though Wiggins
Speaker 1: has got Pritchard.
Speaker 2: There for a bunch of these finals. He's in there.
Speaker 1: The right shoulder fades turn around.
Speaker 2: Out a minute, playing the entire first quarter. He does
Speaker 2: hate come on for a little Yes, I like is
Speaker 2: the idea of comes up short Williams.
Speaker 1: Another rebound, so a good clean look off the offensive rebound,
Speaker 1: which we talked about. One of the things you guys
Speaker 1: can see there is they tried to bring bliss Man
Speaker 1: up into the ball screen, but then Elison Wiggins just
Speaker 1: pre switched it so that Wiggans was able to go
Speaker 1: off there and switch the ball screen. That's a good
Speaker 1: look for Jordan.
Speaker 3: I think Draymond Green is the best handoff player handoff
Speaker 3: like Big not coming off of the handoff there.
Speaker 2: He has.
Speaker 4: He has unlimited ways to get that ask off, like
Speaker 4: the legs behind the.
Speaker 3: Back, regular handoff like a lead handoff, and then his
Speaker 3: fake handoffs less.
Speaker 1: And he's just a strong m effort that like he's
Speaker 1: gonna hit you.
Speaker 2: Two for six to start. But I definitely agree with
Speaker 2: you about that.
Speaker 1: He's effectively the best five out folk rum big in
Speaker 1: the league in terms of just the strict role of
Speaker 1: running those dhos and I don't know what game there turnovers.
Speaker 2: God, Jordan Poole plays the most chaotic way. I know.
Speaker 1: It's straight like he's it's like the bads I tick earlier.
Speaker 1: You almost have to let him take a shot like
Speaker 1: that every game because it's part of like unleashing his personality,
Speaker 1: or it's not this puff before the show.
Speaker 3: The same way you're like, yeah, Trey is gonna maybe
Speaker 3: yell a little more. You might like, perhaps you gotta
Speaker 3: let him lock his enter a little bit.
Speaker 2: Same thing as shot.
Speaker 1: So the shining hex Hora says, I don't think teams
Speaker 1: will defend the leak the way to he's defended Jordan Poole.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna defend in the exact same way
Speaker 1: that coming off a deep deep drop coverage there see
Speaker 1: they were basically you're pull up coming off the ball.
Speaker 3: One of the differences also with the league month and
Speaker 3: I think is like not this playoff run, but in
Speaker 3: the next playoff run, obviously, Jordan Poole really really.
Speaker 2: And comes supreme.
Speaker 3: Like good analyticism is a way to overcome some of
Speaker 3: the size issues of Jordan Foremen is a transcendent athlete
Speaker 3: in a league, in a league of great athletes.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Like he's a guy that like like
Speaker 1: will throw down some of the craziest dunks you'll ever see.
Speaker 1: Like just disgusting athlete. One of the things to notice
Speaker 1: about the coverages here earlier, which I think is fascinating,
Speaker 1: is is running the higher drop against Steph but notice
Speaker 1: he's conceding deeper drop against Clay and Jordan's so he's
Speaker 1: he's running, he's basically allowing those dudes and they both
Speaker 1: hit one so far there you go a little bit
Speaker 1: of an adjustment there for rob he was up higher
Speaker 1: because Jordan had just hit one and we were out
Speaker 1: of a time out there. So I wonder if he
Speaker 1: made the adjustment at the time out and said, hey,
Speaker 1: we got to be up.
Speaker 2: And because it's really good game.
Speaker 1: This series was a lot of fun. These games were
Speaker 1: all very entertaining.
Speaker 2: Drove to the hoop and let the referees know. Cool
Speaker 2: launches another ring.
Speaker 1: Little ambitious on that one, but it was close.
Speaker 2: The first playoffs for the Young Pool got off to
Speaker 2: a great start.
Speaker 1: At thirty points, Mary b elit's a look at how
Speaker 1: Blitz is only a little bigger than Marcus, and Marcus
Speaker 1: is like going Adams who jab step travel. That's the
Speaker 1: most common mistake I see from young players is they
Speaker 1: can't jab step out. You'll occasionally see it in the pros,
Speaker 1: but most of the pros.
Speaker 2: Are pretty sharp, right non call. He searched the body
Speaker 2: of Robert Williams and created the content.
Speaker 4: Searching the body doesn't, don't.
Speaker 2: I agree with Mark Aaxstell that one.
Speaker 1: That's he's just trying to bump into if it's the
Speaker 1: same thing we were just talking about earlier, like what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Shoot?
Speaker 1: You can't just go straight up against Rob He'll block you.
Speaker 1: You like literally have to say, and not like that
Speaker 1: shot the rebound. He's He's one of those guys. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm so high on him as a potential trade
Speaker 1: target for the Lakers, Like he just he brings apex athleticism,
Speaker 1: which helps her team in so many ways. That's the disgusting.
Speaker 2: He's got double figures already.
Speaker 1: Dude Jordan playing it's great.
Speaker 6: He's an impact on the offensive end, got it going,
Speaker 6: and that's when he's at his best when he's aggressive.
Speaker 4: Son't think you're making a big comeback.
Speaker 1: Under to Clay went under on that one, and then
Speaker 1: he tried to make up for it with the hard
Speaker 1: pulls up. I think under is the game plan, but
Speaker 1: it's like, if you're going to go under, you're conceding
Speaker 1: the shot.
Speaker 2: You gotta go under.
Speaker 1: You can't then all of a sudden, like do a
Speaker 1: record close.
Speaker 6: Out contact, fights through the screen, tries to contest jumps
Speaker 6: into the space.
Speaker 1: You got to basically live with Daylen Brown taking that shot.
Speaker 5: It's similar to the Curry play. You have to at
Speaker 5: least look at this because his left foot.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed rewatching these games.
Speaker 2: It han's been a lot of fun, really fun Brown.
Speaker 5: Yeah, or his right foot, I should say, good note
Speaker 5: call on the flagrant but game.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean got more sense of like
Speaker 1: trying to be go from out of position to getting rig.
Speaker 2: Pretty far back in the playoffs? Is pool missus?
Speaker 7: That one?
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart's is straight up because like was not boxing
Speaker 1: out and Steff just went right around.
Speaker 4: And the mouth I can't terrific, don't get.
Speaker 2: I don't know either.
Speaker 4: I also don't really get. I'm not someone who like
Speaker 4: choose gum when they play baskbant.
Speaker 2: Some people do that, and I find that one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't. I feel like I bite my tongue.
Speaker 2: Of the.
Speaker 1: Room linked in Yeah, Smart, really.
Speaker 3: Smart, But I think it was Bill Simmons or Zach
Speaker 3: Law or someone on one of their one another pods
Speaker 3: suggest Peyton Pritchard as a as a Rockets trade target,
Speaker 3: and I really like that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did hear that that's that's actually an example
Speaker 1: of what I'm talking about. Like to me, Peyton Pritchard
Speaker 1: is more of like a like we're gonna run a
Speaker 1: ton of action with this guy kind of for sure.
Speaker 1: We were talking in the Monday game. If you guys remember.
Speaker 7: Taina will shoot for one shot checkfully and this is
Speaker 7: that Celtics have missed four free throws.
Speaker 1: When we were talking on Monday, we were talking about
Speaker 1: the idea of the NBA Finals being about like mistake
Speaker 1: making and like avoiding mistakes, and like that Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: missed box out on stat as a classic example, Like
Speaker 1: you do all the work, you forced Jordan Poole to
Speaker 1: take a pretty tough shot coming off the ball screen,
Speaker 1: and then you have one guy doesn't do his job,
Speaker 1: and now Steff's getting a layup, and like that's a
Speaker 1: layup for a player that's like already in rhythm.
Speaker 2: And like really starting to feel another.
Speaker 7: Free throws themselfs Pritchard played really well in Game one,
Speaker 7: was a big part of that fourth quarter turnaround.
Speaker 1: Played the first eight we were Jackson and I were
Speaker 1: talking this morning about whether or not we were going
Speaker 1: to watch a portion of this game or the whole game.
Speaker 1: And we decided on the whole game. But Jackson actually
Speaker 1: charted out all of the buckets that Steph got over
Speaker 1: the course of the game and the third quarters or
Speaker 1: step really starts to go off if you So that's
Speaker 1: really bad defense from Warford, like came up high, but
Speaker 1: he had his stands, open sorts, baseline, and step basically
Speaker 1: just dribbled right around.
Speaker 2: And too easy layups here stocks LANs.
Speaker 1: So I hate it. I hate that Tatum does those
Speaker 1: low gathers on his post ups. Obviously he makes him
Speaker 1: every once in a while and he'll occasionally drop out,
Speaker 1: but I think.
Speaker 2: It's a big part of his layup problem. But he's
Speaker 2: had in his career deflected by grain they let it
Speaker 2: go out of bounds. It's Boston ball.
Speaker 1: Like for a guy who's a big, big, strong forward
Speaker 1: like him, he should be like a mid to high
Speaker 1: sixties on layups, and he's pretty consistently in his career
Speaker 1: been below there. And I think a big part of
Speaker 1: it is, like I don't know if it's true handling
Speaker 1: or I don't know if it's it's it's Tatum just
Speaker 1: in his approaches, but these low gathers and the can't
Speaker 1: just hate him up. We lost something. Stand by, guys,
Speaker 1: let me call Jackson and see what's going on.
Speaker 2: Just like it just booted me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of did that last time too on Monday.
Speaker 1: Once the big deal THO, we're gonna get back up
Speaker 1: and running, guys.
Speaker 2: I'm good. Oh good, I don't care. That was weird.
Speaker 2: We're back. We're back good.
Speaker 6: Bet and Steph Curry and Jordan Pool has been much
Speaker 6: improved tonight. They've done a better job battling and competing
Speaker 6: and playing with false on the defensive side of.
Speaker 2: Raymond Green has not scored in thirteen minutes, oh for three.
Speaker 3: The NBA on YouTube it certainly is on YouTube said
Speaker 3: hell no, I did a bunch of testing after to
Speaker 3: see we told get this simonal cast on YouTube and
Speaker 3: the answer was.
Speaker 2: Affirm no, not even not even yeah.
Speaker 1: Thirteen you guys are our playback guys.
Speaker 2: We're here for you, guys.
Speaker 4: H Graymond's I was kind of down that and became
Speaker 4: like a full bay player.
Speaker 2: And the health he looks fresh bringing the ball up.
Speaker 2: He's not a guy given the freedom to bring the
Speaker 2: ball up offers it get So.
Speaker 1: I actually think this is really smart because and it's
Speaker 1: a big part of what I think is the advantage
Speaker 1: of what a finish of the It's a big part
Speaker 1: of the way that I think you can make life
Speaker 1: easier for Steps. So like if instead of having we
Speaker 1: got a hold of high ball spring here, I think
Speaker 1: Steph shot Wigan's is gonna pl so anyway, basically, if
Speaker 1: you so, it's it's helpful on two fronts. One, you're
Speaker 1: preventing step from having to face as much ball pressure,
Speaker 1: which saves his legs throughout the game. Obviously he's gonna
Speaker 1: bring the ball up a lot, and he's doing it.
Speaker 1: But like just not every single possession of a shop
Speaker 1: fairing this. But the second piece of it is like
Speaker 1: Draymond is almost certainly going to be guarded by a
Speaker 1: big and Biggs have not spent their entire lives practicing
Speaker 1: fall pressure. It's like in high school and in college,
Speaker 1: and like it's just ball pressure is not usually a
Speaker 1: big part of defense at the center position or at
Speaker 1: the power boards position. So what you get for Draymond
Speaker 1: is you get a really the opportunity to just casually
Speaker 1: bring the It avoids ball pressure on Step in terms
Speaker 1: of wear and tear, but it also avoids ball pressure
Speaker 1: for your whole team because the big is probably not
Speaker 1: going to do that. Looks like we can stepped on
Speaker 1: Derek White sport.
Speaker 3: There White pushes, that's step Draymond winning the finals on potting.
Speaker 4: Wasn't sane at the time. It was insane and it
Speaker 4: was an idea.
Speaker 2: Talk did me what happened?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to now, he said, Draymond winning the finals
Speaker 3: while podcasting was insane at the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly was, and I it was my this person's yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: and you know what, he created some golden CoA. This
Speaker 1: is why you're one of the very best in the world.
Speaker 1: The Holden says. Draymond creates mismatches by racing the ball floor.
Speaker 1: That's part of it too. In general, any pace pusher,
Speaker 1: whether it's Tyrese Haliburton, whether it's Lonzo Ball, whether it's
Speaker 1: a big like Raymond or the guy who throws kick
Speaker 1: head passes like Kevin Love, any sort of aggressive push
Speaker 1: up the floor is going to force the transition defense principles.
Speaker 1: And transition defense principles are grab the guy sat, stop man,
Speaker 1: stop ball or stop ball to rim and then just
Speaker 1: spread out and match up to the nearest guy.
Speaker 2: And so if you.
Speaker 1: If you push the ball up the floor, you're gonna
Speaker 1: naturally build a lot of mismatch opportunity.
Speaker 2: Hayton back in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hoard set with the double scream the switch crown.
Speaker 4: Bring me in, Jordan Pool.
Speaker 1: You know what I hate about that? That that call though,
Speaker 1: is like Pool was sitting on Jalen Brown's right hand
Speaker 1: and then Col just and then Jalen just throve into
Speaker 1: his right hand. Like the thing with the thing with
Speaker 1: Jordan there is like I almost think him flopping there.
Speaker 2: Didn't do him any favors.
Speaker 8: It's not like they can't like.
Speaker 1: If he just holds his ground there, I don't think
Speaker 1: the reps are gonna climb finish.
Speaker 4: You can see the slow motion had our longest past.
Speaker 3: He started moving moving to his left after Jalen started
Speaker 3: driving with his right hand.
Speaker 2: It's like he's like behind defensive fires.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, he was just and especially considering he
Speaker 1: was already in position there he was there another missbox
Speaker 1: out the cost Boston two points. Also perfect example of
Speaker 1: what I'm just talking about, though. Steph just did the
Speaker 1: exact same fucking thing to Marcus Smart. He was sitting
Speaker 1: on the right hand and beat him to the spot,
Speaker 1: but he see and then there was no call, and
Speaker 1: then Marcus Smart ends up throwing up.
Speaker 6: Something what you talked about, coach, allowing him to get
Speaker 6: to that right hand direct line drive to the car,
Speaker 6: Curry launch a three man.
Speaker 1: He's just barely short on some of these words up
Speaker 1: the steel tops.
Speaker 2: It can't get it this time.
Speaker 7: Tatum holds on quick outlet to white out.
Speaker 2: I love Gary fake drives, what Smart open three? A
Speaker 2: set of making that play is crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get ready easy. We playing in Golden State.
Speaker 2: It is a crazy play.
Speaker 1: First, I'm excited to watch Orford and Golden State.
Speaker 2: That looks like Lebron James like baseline drive, drifting.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 1: Swinging out of bounds and going that past.
Speaker 7: Eric.
Speaker 3: Thank you for the power chat or whatever they're called
Speaker 3: him playbacks. I'm not sure what's going on with the
Speaker 3: formatting as your questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff going on here.
Speaker 4: With oat in there, but uh, where would you rank
Speaker 4: this turn twenty two?
Speaker 2: Lawyers?
Speaker 4: You understand people think it's one of.
Speaker 2: The Weakird champs, but this team is actually underrated.
Speaker 3: They were a dominant defendive off season when Draymond was
Speaker 3: healthy and the level of Wiggins, KP and Clay were
Speaker 3: able to make up that lack of second high level on.
Speaker 2: Ball shot creation with GPS becue they can boll pressure.
Speaker 4: That hell out of people on the ball. I get
Speaker 4: why you would spend the twenty twenty two team out.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Jason, we talked, we did a video
Speaker 3: about this or maybe right by ranking the champion, the
Speaker 3: recent champion, the twenty twenty two Warriors, towards the bottom
Speaker 3: of the go up.
Speaker 2: In the air.
Speaker 3: It was the post point post pass on the base
Speaker 3: Katie Warriors record championships.
Speaker 2: Did yeah, because first.
Speaker 1: They're one of like it's it's a heat saying weaker
Speaker 1: champions because it's like, of course they were an awesome
Speaker 1: team for all the reasons that you mentioned the US
Speaker 1: and by the way, thank you the carass.
Speaker 2: But it's more just like Peyton sets himself for three.
Speaker 1: I guess there was five seconds talking over recals. Again,
Speaker 1: it's more just relative like I mean again, so like
Speaker 1: like we're talking about that twenty twenty three Dener Nuggets
Speaker 1: team was nasty, like they had the best player in
Speaker 1: the world playing some of the best basketball ever played.
Speaker 1: About Jamal Murray was better in that playoff run than
Speaker 1: any Warrior not name like Jamal Murray was insane in that.
Speaker 1: It's like I think he averaged like forty seven sixteen
Speaker 1: six or twenty six seven and seven sixty three percent
Speaker 1: true shooting or something outrageous like that, like they did,
Speaker 1: Like that's a special team, like the twenty twenty Lakers
Speaker 1: at Lebron and ad playing at the peak of their powers.
Speaker 1: Literally they were both top five players in the league.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four Celtics best driving kick team ever and
Speaker 1: want to be the defense in the league like they
Speaker 1: It's just it's all relative when we start talking about other.
Speaker 8: Champions, which is what happened in Game three.
Speaker 1: But like I think this Golden State team was better
Speaker 1: than the twenty twenty one five job.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree containing the.
Speaker 1: Ball, but again, like week champion is just it feels
Speaker 1: stupid to say because they wore such great this leader
Speaker 1: fill double drag here they switched the first screen Hoarfard's
Speaker 1: up on the second one recovery from playing them, Coy
Speaker 1: tied up and I'll reach in foul. That's I'll run
Speaker 1: from Boston here. Some transition pushes a lot of their
Speaker 1: stuff's come out of defensive transition. I mean even that
Speaker 1: Horford close out part lebron esque swing pass to the
Speaker 1: corner came out of a transition push.
Speaker 2: That led to a little advantage. You're trying to win
Speaker 2: a championship. Second foul on Brown and what hurts the Warriors.
Speaker 8: They don't really have a role game.
Speaker 2: Carry, gets free, get some.
Speaker 3: Contact, lass step slam and the chat was talking about
Speaker 3: Orford playing with with such high going to be playing
Speaker 3: with high Q players on both the Warriors season, It's
Speaker 3: gonna be awesome. I mean there's some that they want
Speaker 3: him to start alongside at the sender and if he
Speaker 3: can hold up, I think that would be awesome because
Speaker 3: absolutely correct defensive I c three players at him, Draymond,
Speaker 3: the Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 2: Off on the court.
Speaker 3: At the same time, it's not just a pretty incredible
Speaker 3: line the job brain continue.
Speaker 1: That's the lineup that I can take you about, like Stephen,
Speaker 1: like jim Ski with Jimmy or yeah, I agree, like
Speaker 1: I think I think he makes the most sensible and
Speaker 1: what kind of a switching scheme can switch on to
Speaker 1: some bigger players bold step they're pretty strong for.
Speaker 2: Guards off the found, but like just.
Speaker 3: Providing the shooting that someone like Quinton Post provides, but
Speaker 3: also high level and first all defender's great for them.
Speaker 1: Totally agree, Totally agree.
Speaker 3: Yes, Looney shooting, that's That's kind of what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like a blend of some of the the defense've
Speaker 3: been rebounding instincts and someone like dave On loons green
Speaker 3: instincts and the shooting of.
Speaker 1: Him about He also gives you, guys a little bit
Speaker 1: of a switch feeding piece without like step in the
Speaker 1: sense that like Horford can go down to the wash
Speaker 1: on the left block and bump a dude and hit
Speaker 1: a little left shoulder goading.
Speaker 4: That even someone like Quintin Post you can't really get.
Speaker 2: Those are really nice little figure.
Speaker 4: He's when he's in flow, man, he's he's got some juice.
Speaker 1: Nice response from Golden State. Five oh, run off with
Speaker 1: the Bossom run.
Speaker 2: Tadam goes right back. That's a great defense.
Speaker 1: We can stayed attached him the whole time, and Mooney
Speaker 1: came over right at the right.
Speaker 2: Moment and the game rebound. Curry spins tops.
Speaker 1: Double flop. White got the call.
Speaker 2: Curry double.
Speaker 6: Attendance literally uses that left arm to shield off Derek White, the.
Speaker 4: Derek Whit is also grabbing him first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. They just it's always the reaction,
Speaker 1: not the action that gets them that has one guarding Mark.
Speaker 2: I had nineteen points.
Speaker 1: By lost Eric as a Bob switch White.
Speaker 2: Off the bench. I want to pick up who's been
Speaker 2: for the.
Speaker 4: Boston twenty twenty six NBA champions Who you got?
Speaker 3: We in a couple of weeks as part of our
Speaker 3: upcoming seasons for a new content we'll be doing like
Speaker 3: ten championship contenders as well as a season and awards
Speaker 3: prediction that I'm that I will be making Jason also
Speaker 3: make that preseason finals prediction that I'm sure all the.
Speaker 4: YouTube commenters will be very very kind about not holding him.
Speaker 1: To right, Guys, I obviously deserve the right to change
Speaker 1: this after I actually finished on this season preview study
Speaker 1: because obviously there's a lot of like work that goes
Speaker 1: in it that was really nice finish complete him. But
Speaker 1: my initial gut theling is Denver.
Speaker 2: What's yours?
Speaker 1: Jackson?
Speaker 4: It's Denver?
Speaker 2: Okay, See.
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like there's only two teams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean after the Fred van Vlie didn't Sury
Speaker 4: it does.
Speaker 3: Feel like that's a just a massive reality spring a
Speaker 3: team that, like, you know, they didn't even win a
Speaker 3: first round series last year.
Speaker 4: If you're expecting a lot of growth plust the initiation of.
Speaker 3: K D like the step back, the losing been a
Speaker 3: really tough there. So I think Denver and OKAC are
Speaker 3: a pretty clear top team. I think there are other
Speaker 3: teams that could win it, but I think if you're
Speaker 3: like making a preseason tick and hard to picks on
Speaker 3: of other than thee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, even when Houston was healthy, I had
Speaker 1: him as like a clear pit in the West. Cleveland
Speaker 1: is one of those teams you got to you kind
Speaker 1: of have to consider as an outside chance. Uh, just
Speaker 1: simply because they're in the weaker conference. I shouldn't just
Speaker 1: take Cleveland like Cleveland or New York.
Speaker 2: Just because what if? What if? At Denver?
Speaker 1: Okay, so he gets through, but there's a beach of
Speaker 1: ship by the time.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I always find it a little stiller when you get
Speaker 3: like the scores with first takes of the world there
Speaker 3: shows like that being like, well, that team definitely is
Speaker 3: good enough to make the finals, but no chance to
Speaker 3: win it off, Like whoa what are you talking about
Speaker 3: if they had a chance.
Speaker 4: We just saw it last year with the Pacer.
Speaker 3: You get through your conference, I don't care how good
Speaker 3: of a pay the other team is, you have a
Speaker 3: chance to win.
Speaker 1: Thee Yeah, like a perfect example twenty eighteen, Like let's
Speaker 1: say that the Warriors failed to come back in Game
Speaker 1: seven and Chris Paul's out with a cold hamstring, Like, right,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm taking the twenty eighteen Cabs with
Speaker 1: Lebron over of the James Harden Rockets without these all,
Speaker 1: like especially in the finals, which is the stage that
Speaker 1: James Harden himself spectacularly. Like the thing is is anything
Speaker 1: can happen. You get the right guy in the right spot,
Speaker 1: leading the right team, with the better teams, dealing with
Speaker 1: some adversity like anything now. But yeah, I'm definitely leaving
Speaker 1: the Denver. My thing with Denver is specifically, like that's
Speaker 1: another under there is they go.
Speaker 2: Under the That was that was.
Speaker 3: Three straight of just vintage Warriors trio that hits the
Speaker 3: long mid range coming off the Banker on one end,
Speaker 3: Dre breaks up an all youth attempt to Jayalen Brown
Speaker 3: and then Clay hits us.
Speaker 1: Really all three of the big three making a huge
Speaker 1: play and now we're tied. Brown Draymond has always been
Speaker 1: the best corner guy I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of coming off the bench, tops
Speaker 2: some fires again.
Speaker 1: Another beautiful by tops, it offensive roofound, but they got
Speaker 1: to switch on a quarters right open gets.
Speaker 2: A clean luck. Carrie was ready for three and Robert
Speaker 2: Williams once again.
Speaker 1: But I specifically like the way Denver matches up Road
Speaker 1: Gay and that that is what was like that like
Speaker 1: they literally pushed them to seven last year with a
Speaker 1: much worse not gonna be I think he will be
Speaker 1: a lot better too. So I think it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be a great, great series that will be. I hope
Speaker 1: we get to see them face off again.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to going from Okay, what do
Speaker 3: you think while we're in a room play here to
Speaker 3: get to you probably from this game, what do you
Speaker 3: think it's a bigger up throwing for the Denver Knights,
Speaker 3: going from Michael Porter Junior to Cam Johnson or from
Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan to Jonnis Valenti.
Speaker 1: I've got a big yonas guy. I don't know, so
Speaker 1: I think he's fine as a backup, but I'm not
Speaker 1: a big yonas guy, So I would I would deal
Speaker 1: with John oh Man. What a big sequence from Marcus
Speaker 1: Smart hits a three above the break off the left
Speaker 1: wing and then he rips Raymond for.
Speaker 4: That's what he does. Man, he's gonna he's gonna do
Speaker 4: something real frustrating, real soon.
Speaker 3: I'm sure of it. He gives you some pretty sick moments.
Speaker 3: You're like, man, this dude can take over at the
Speaker 3: ninety stratag.
Speaker 1: Perfect example of engaging the room protector. Wigan's got an angle,
Speaker 1: just put it up on the glass. Robert Williams over pursued,
Speaker 1: and Draymond.
Speaker 2: Went in there and clean and got on the class.
Speaker 2: That's what I needed.
Speaker 1: It would need to see that again, but I think
Speaker 1: it was I think it might have been a cross screen,
Speaker 1: but they that. I think Draymond wanted them to switch.
Speaker 1: All right, nice class, Raymond hunting, good deal.
Speaker 2: The backpack. It looks so different.
Speaker 4: It looks so different when than the game we watched
Speaker 4: on Monday.
Speaker 2: Looks so different once again, the lighting and every miss slams,
Speaker 2: thank and smarter ultimate cast age is it.
Speaker 3: I have the opinion that you kind of need a
Speaker 3: little bit of a chaos agent one literally to be
Speaker 3: like the healthy in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because it's the very insanle right, like
Speaker 1: you need you need really high upside players that can
Speaker 1: go nuts.
Speaker 3: I mean you can really backfire, as we saw the
Speaker 3: Jordan four and playoff runs. But I think most champions
Speaker 3: have chaos that is able to play.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I looked like it was just a I
Speaker 1: think Draymond. I think they've got like messed up their
Speaker 1: transitioning match ups there. Yeah, Like I think even lou
Speaker 1: Dort was.
Speaker 2: Kind of like that broken. I think, uh, Bruce Brown
Speaker 2: was that for Denver. You know Tatum, Yeah, like a
Speaker 2: dude is just.
Speaker 1: Like going on a hundred miles now little time and
Speaker 1: like we're.
Speaker 7: Making on the road against Milwaukee in game six, facing elimination.
Speaker 1: But the way he has improved his complete game, it's
Speaker 1: so difficult to Like, it's really been fun to watch
Speaker 1: Boston wins this game. They win serious, like it really
Speaker 1: was everything hanging in the bouts.
Speaker 3: They're down seven, and they're right, they're down seven and
Speaker 3: Stead has not hit a three discards.
Speaker 4: It's four.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that right now, trying to fom.
Speaker 1: He gets deep problem. You see that Robert Williams is
Speaker 1: sticking with the roll man the whole time, Brown against Green,
Speaker 1: these tubing stopping.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Man? Not match up for you?
Speaker 8: Holves back by.
Speaker 1: Wiggins neither is that like just for Boston Tragy Williams tip,
Speaker 1: but it goes right to current about I'm getting a
Speaker 1: good deal here in the third floor. Pulls up just
Speaker 1: has a good leaking test, not a great atually smart
Speaker 1: Spin moves on the spin from play.
Speaker 2: Porter to Green Green Back to quarter.
Speaker 1: Textbook, fast Bread goes textbook two on one.
Speaker 2: Fast Bread, Tatum and Porter to shoot Drugs.
Speaker 1: Did I watch the JJ and Polenka interview?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 1: Yea, I uh, Starting tomorrow, I'm getting in a season
Speaker 1: preview contact guys, so a lot, a lot of or
Speaker 1: the next few days. I think before Jackson we start
Speaker 1: airing him next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so starting next.
Speaker 1: Monthing in fourth quarters, especially defensively, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: start working on them tomorrow the third quarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Literally just did our final phase of our move to
Speaker 1: Denver yesterday and literally had one of the worst days
Speaker 1: of my entire life. I blew a hire while pulling
Speaker 1: a trailer at the Interstate twenty five Interstate forty interchange
Speaker 1: in Albuquerque much of his career with and then had
Speaker 1: a tire chop or place two of my tires and
Speaker 1: one of them and they sold me a leaky tire
Speaker 1: which leaked the entire way back. It was just an
Speaker 1: absolute disaster. But I made it, and I'm here and
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get to work.
Speaker 4: We're playing road trip read trip problem.
Speaker 1: I was joking with my wife because we did so
Speaker 1: much traveling this summer. I saw a bucket for Jaylen
Speaker 1: Brown on Draymont. Notice Boston's offensive processes turning in miss
Speaker 1: the trash. A lot of times when process is bad,
Speaker 1: even if the results are good in the short term,
Speaker 1: it'll turn bad in the long world. But anyway, like
Speaker 1: we did like planes, trades and automobiles on our Alaska trip,
Speaker 1: including ships and all these flights and all these things
Speaker 1: and literally everything which was so smooth all summer. We
Speaker 1: didn't miss a single flight. There was no delays, there
Speaker 1: were no cancelations, we didn't miss a train, we didn't
Speaker 1: miss a bus, we didn't miss anything. And then it
Speaker 1: was just like all all brought yesterday. This is a
Speaker 1: little evening of the bound. He's been incredible, has go
Speaker 1: to one two. Punch at the two position as there
Speaker 1: is in this league.
Speaker 2: Wiggans. Look at a post up Tata carry launches at three.
Speaker 1: That's a tough shot. Derek White had a decent rear
Speaker 1: view contest, but Steph looked really comfortable on that.
Speaker 8: Run enough space.
Speaker 1: He's three for nine at this point. I think he
Speaker 1: finishes seven to fourteen, So he's gonna go what four
Speaker 1: for his next six?
Speaker 2: For his next five?
Speaker 8: Well, look at Williams guards.
Speaker 2: Look at Robert Williams is way too far back.
Speaker 8: Curry just enough space, and this is game four.
Speaker 2: You should see that a mile away. You gotta be
Speaker 2: more than defensive.
Speaker 1: Another under from Jalen Brown. Sure so, a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of like execution errors on the defense and
Speaker 1: then a lot of the process errors on offense. And
Speaker 1: they're still up three.
Speaker 2: Johnson four for twelve from the.
Speaker 1: Field, the ball place, getting the pocket strips here, transition three,
Speaker 1: get the fall. Smart, but he was great on defense
Speaker 1: in this series. Say what you want about the offense
Speaker 1: under six and a half remanding air of the third.
Speaker 1: At least at the end of the series, he got
Speaker 1: clicked a little bit and start the series smart to
Speaker 1: drive lets he attacked the pocketing in there too.
Speaker 6: Series we've seen him use that upper body straight to
Speaker 6: eliminate a defense.
Speaker 2: Well from three point range.
Speaker 1: We's this Markus smart everything to win a.
Speaker 2: Defensive side gas and backs it home.
Speaker 6: That's just good eliminates and Mooney gets the blocks shot
Speaker 6: block and Williams.
Speaker 2: In the air.
Speaker 8: He's been terrific tonight, third assist for Curry.
Speaker 1: Derek White looking that's just going under on Derek.
Speaker 2: He doesn't believe that's such a difference.
Speaker 1: Mark one on one with Curry, paste Wiggins Evolu shading
Speaker 1: eyes that I passed though again coming off to his
Speaker 1: Wiggins like head straight up ignored. Derek White sat in
Speaker 1: the panel, Wigans cross court to Green, great great defense.
Speaker 1: Park is part of the shot clock at seven Tompson
Speaker 1: a crowd, it's absolute cast. But Boston, this is a
Speaker 1: good Boston defense.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys were married.
Speaker 1: This is the same Boston defense that literally embarrassed the.
Speaker 2: Nets seven Crown a little out of control.
Speaker 1: And like play Katie into one of the worst series
Speaker 1: of his career. This Boston, this Boston defense because they
Speaker 1: had real, real rim antaction, not like porzingis rim protection
Speaker 1: like freaky athletic rim protection with Robert Williams, with like
Speaker 1: el perimeter defenders.
Speaker 2: All over the color.
Speaker 1: This was a special Boston defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gave good costs because was the one with White Curry.
Speaker 1: You get inside off the glass Looney, the boxing out
Speaker 1: the defense.
Speaker 2: That's a good example from Looney to not over boxes brushed.
Speaker 1: Too far back. Robert, what are you doing? Then that's
Speaker 1: a tough shot though, because like absolutely it was. Derek
Speaker 1: White stayed attached like you got to get contests from
Speaker 1: the side.
Speaker 4: You can got the high five contest on this was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was, but again like ridiculous in front Steph had
Speaker 1: a clean look and from Robert who back.
Speaker 7: Up the smart Smart makes his boom pull up jumper,
Speaker 7: bounces around.
Speaker 4: And just that it feels like a floater to me,
Speaker 4: he's always been ard there that weird kind of dump.
Speaker 1: Shot almost like slows his moise.
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, bringing the curry looking for that little bit
Speaker 2: of daylight.
Speaker 1: Wiggans faces Jack oh, Draymond shoot the bloater.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's grand mind had the shade on that little.
Speaker 7: Late whistle there. Smart will pick up his second. Was
Speaker 7: he trying to draw the charge Wiggins.
Speaker 2: I thought it was the right call. I agree.
Speaker 1: That's one of those ones too where Marcus Smart flopped
Speaker 1: his way and flopped the hell.
Speaker 2: That's insane around like what the hell?
Speaker 4: And contestant, Yeah, I hate a little left hand on
Speaker 4: the right head.
Speaker 2: Right up into Curry once again. That's never gets rewarded
Speaker 2: for his No one's there some funky space in there.
Speaker 2: Golden State now for Golden State, twelve for Boston. Gary
Speaker 2: Pekon back in looking at harassed Garry Paton's in that
Speaker 2: s talking about them playoffs. Coach, it's easy, Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 1: Baton now ball, I've got played against him a few
Speaker 1: times in college. Disgusting athlete.
Speaker 2: He baddles everybody white.
Speaker 1: There's three thinks him under.
Speaker 7: Grant Williams with the taking nearly putting it from alf board.
Speaker 7: That's four fouls on Grant Williams.
Speaker 4: That's a weird take, Williams. It wasn't even really a
Speaker 4: transition question. Coaches offensively, grhanted not the smartest as gave you.
Speaker 2: What does Warriors line.
Speaker 8: Up well with this lineup? It's Wigan and maybe some
Speaker 8: second shots.
Speaker 1: Curry again, that's such a ridiculous shot, is unbelievable. Orford's
Speaker 1: not up very high there, but it's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: even mad at him. It was a thirty three footer.
Speaker 2: He's got thirty points.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he definitely got a foul on that one.
Speaker 3: So all tied up, but seventy three smart Marcus Scott's
Speaker 3: let me see if I can match Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not gonna work, brother Curry looking.
Speaker 7: Foul, that's gonna be the fourteen foul another thirty point.
Speaker 1: Games walked into the crowd there to have a little moment.
Speaker 7: Finals for Steph Curry thirteen overall step smells blood cacular
Speaker 7: company tries to ask the.
Speaker 4: Silly people say that ste currys I get this performance.
Speaker 2: You see stats one three drives in side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like he wasn't super great for stretches
Speaker 1: of his first two finals. But like at the same time,
Speaker 1: like literally nobody.
Speaker 4: Who is exception exactly.
Speaker 1: There are exceptions, but like most of the great struggles
Speaker 1: in their first opportunity.
Speaker 3: Especially when they're young, in their first I mean Tatum
Speaker 3: being an example on this game.
Speaker 1: Smart posting up Luca had a pretty rough first final, especially.
Speaker 2: It was pretty mediocre or from Peyton but the Celtics
Speaker 2: still scored and Barrels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Halle is another example, although I'd like Halle is
Speaker 1: always like weird because it's hard to get into it
Speaker 1: with the box sports stuff. And I also thought, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the part of why you think did with
Speaker 1: but the that matchup is just so tough and okay,
Speaker 1: these defensive cards. It would have been really fun if
Speaker 1: if Stat could have stayed healthy and they would somehow
Speaker 1: beat Minnesota Golden State versus Okay, so you would.
Speaker 2: Have been a really fun match up. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: the first, but I think they're gonna no shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe this.
Speaker 3: Year Williams substituted in then Yeah, I'm still excited about
Speaker 3: even with the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to me, they're just like every other
Speaker 1: team in that middle tier, like they have a really
Speaker 1: wide range of outcomes. If they were playing, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they were the four seed or three
Speaker 1: seed and one two series, I wouldn't be surprised either.
Speaker 1: It's just I just think Oho City and Denver is
Speaker 1: very clearly in a different tier than you got it
Speaker 1: honest that one of the Denver's got like a legit
Speaker 1: like eleven man rotation now and and then Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: is the defending champ a reason, you know.
Speaker 2: Overlading champ with no roster issues for one.
Speaker 1: Mar and and like three dudes who could very easily
Speaker 1: like excreen traumatic improvements this year.
Speaker 8: Smart really on the offensive class against.
Speaker 1: Curry right now, great pass from Jordan Poole. Jordan Poole
Speaker 1: played with such crazy pace in transition. He was so
Speaker 1: much it's not hard to see why he's so popular
Speaker 1: with the younger generation of basketball player.
Speaker 2: Horford.
Speaker 1: Looney was showing on a backscreen from Horford there kind
Speaker 1: of like a helping on the cutter type of situation.
Speaker 1: Warford is slaed out essentially an off ball pick and
Speaker 1: pop carry the classic.
Speaker 8: After he's the ball up.
Speaker 2: Understandings that's not Gary Payton's strip, So Curry.
Speaker 1: To get relocs. Not done though I vividly remember them
Speaker 1: being up five.
Speaker 2: In the middle of the fourth quarter, Smart tries a
Speaker 2: three Gary rebound Cooper one. Jordan, He's had.
Speaker 1: An impact here. On the third quarter, Pool.
Speaker 2: Gets away screen is gonna be Calm Hayton the illegal screen.
Speaker 6: That's an open shot, but he realizes Steph Curry's coming.
Speaker 2: Him behind. We can't be asleep on that.
Speaker 6: He gets rid of the basketball to the greatest shoot
Speaker 6: this league has have the same good relocation.
Speaker 1: Dribbles and looking out quickly. He got his feet res again.
Speaker 8: Pool's got to do a better job of containing that dribble.
Speaker 7: Wiggins is gonna check in with thirty one point six
Speaker 7: remaining play Thompson will take a seat.
Speaker 1: From Mike Brown is with the Warriors at this point.
Speaker 1: He took a lot of those five out concepts of Sacramento.
Speaker 1: It was a big part of how they got going
Speaker 1: on offense, and honestly, I'm hoping that he does the
Speaker 1: same for New York. Yeah, because that's one of my
Speaker 1: big beefs in New York that we've been talking about NonStop,
Speaker 1: is like the Brunton offense just seems to underperform in
Speaker 1: the playoffs because they just lean on him too much.
Speaker 2: They don't have enough type of shot.
Speaker 4: I'll also be curious if Mike Brown could do something for.
Speaker 2: Then all the Warrior talk.
Speaker 4: About him as like the best defensive that had back
Speaker 4: he turned they were a service.
Speaker 2: The second cry shot block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point, and it's kind of a
Speaker 1: similar construct to with some decent athleticism on the perimeter,
Speaker 1: but like a kind of a ify big down one.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's given your issues in these finals.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if you'll kind of lean more into
Speaker 1: the Mitchell Robinson of all the side Cat to look
Speaker 1: in and see if they can't get more of a
Speaker 1: low man type of role for Cat to succeed better.
Speaker 2: N scale right away, it's been your quarter.
Speaker 8: What do you need to see to take a stranglehold
Speaker 8: on these finals?
Speaker 2: Be more deliberate on offense. We're kind of getting in
Speaker 2: the rat race with them.
Speaker 3: Make them work on the You're absolutely righty man, great
Speaker 3: analysis taking those offensive rebounds of the very much agree.
Speaker 2: Physical play continued.
Speaker 1: It literally felt like emotionally they were getting worked up
Speaker 1: by the step.
Speaker 3: I think that's generally part of the Steph Curry epista,
Speaker 3: just sort of black.
Speaker 4: Breaking nature of the mental scramble.
Speaker 2: Having the guard's cup Curry.
Speaker 1: This is something I talk about all the time, like
Speaker 1: there there are weird mental elements with shooting, where like
Speaker 1: when another player is playing awesome, like in a crazy groove,
Speaker 1: and he's starting to kind of like psychologically dominate the game,
Speaker 1: it can get everyone else to be a little shaky
Speaker 1: with their confidence, and like, these are just all parts
Speaker 1: of those things when I talk about basketball being more
Speaker 1: art and science, it's just part of all those complications.
Speaker 1: Once again, deep Robert there, But yeah, I just I'm
Speaker 1: a big believer that there's a lot of moving parts
Speaker 1: that you get to with shooting before you get straight.
Speaker 1: Because like there were some clean looks in there, like
Speaker 1: and Marcus step back, Like It's not like he wasn't open.
Speaker 1: I mean he got a preparation that took another Tatum.
Speaker 5: Three attention to detail by Wiggins going under that flare screen.
Speaker 1: I think Pool should have taken the floaty there. Don't
Speaker 1: like that shot, Tu chips it back out. Pritchard is
Speaker 1: so much better now than he wasn't.
Speaker 2: So good now? Yeah, Elie's on an island.
Speaker 1: Oh what's really frustrating about that one too, is Wiggins
Speaker 1: and Clay weren't really gapping that time. There was plenty
Speaker 1: of space to drive start. Ja Brown's stupid.
Speaker 2: That's a deep shot and another under the deep shot.
Speaker 1: Jay Brown immediately looks to the ground this like, did
Speaker 1: you you had like fifteen feet of space to the
Speaker 1: left end of the right and you took the three
Speaker 1: against them?
Speaker 8: That's a chance in transition to get good looks.
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Tatum. I got to get the pain.
Speaker 1: It always is tough when you get to Mike Brown.
Speaker 7: Way off, Jaylen Brown goes to Green Green swiping out
Speaker 7: a tough full away.
Speaker 2: Shot buckets against. That's where I love the process. Seventeen
Speaker 2: for Crown.
Speaker 1: One thing I do like about Jordan's game is looking
Speaker 1: for somebody and he throws it away. Weigans went through
Speaker 1: the jump pass there, which isn't good, but both Clay
Speaker 1: and Jordan's kind of gave up on their spacing and
Speaker 1: we're just kind of floating out to half court almost
Speaker 1: preparing for.
Speaker 2: Offense Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1: That's one of the things I've always really liked about
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole's game. He does sell his hell out of
Speaker 1: his and he throws it in and out dribble. He's
Speaker 1: turning his whole body to the.
Speaker 2: Last I don't want to go down without the best player, and.
Speaker 1: He'll on his like uh like that uh coming out
Speaker 1: crossover dribble where he like kind of sets up going
Speaker 1: to the right. He really sells that one well too well.
Speaker 2: It was back to Tatum Seeker.
Speaker 3: It was unbelievably committed to his process and I really
Speaker 3: respect that. Again, a game where if you lose is
Speaker 3: you're down three willing and not placed at the whole
Speaker 3: the whole fourth quarter is like real willpower, commitment to
Speaker 3: your philosophy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did the same thing. He sat the
Speaker 1: first three minutes of games seven against one day.
Speaker 2: Here we go, ty game. That's an even crazy last year.
Speaker 1: I think Boston girls in a five defensively, and Tatum's
Speaker 1: got to win this match. Well, be elitz A getting
Speaker 1: stops on an island, guys, and it should. He's too
Speaker 1: skilled of an offensive player. Let anything he does bother him.
Speaker 1: That's one of those Jordan's tool bad shots you kind
Speaker 1: of gotta live with because it's part of the chaos.
Speaker 1: And he just fuck you know, except to jack that
Speaker 1: game from Boston.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the death that's off his shoulder though,
Speaker 2: that was.
Speaker 4: A defensive sequence.
Speaker 6: Off the body of Now he gets his hand in
Speaker 6: there standing defense. That's back to battle battle and gives
Speaker 6: himself a chance. Take a look who went off on
Speaker 6: that's the strip. Yeah it was a foul, but it
Speaker 6: was off and yeah, but it's no foul, so.
Speaker 7: It's clearly off of the elites, and it only played
Speaker 7: fifteen minutes in the first three games most of the time.
Speaker 3: So that is the type of play where I we
Speaker 3: talked about about the Josment fouling a lot last stef Ron.
Speaker 4: That's one where I like the because if they were,
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be able to review that and have that
Speaker 4: be off of the elites.
Speaker 2: That would be so stupid.
Speaker 4: Totally agree, but like sometimes you got the opposite where it.
Speaker 2: Kind of like breaks the flow, the drives down.
Speaker 1: I think overall the we've kind of skewed too far
Speaker 1: towards trying to get it right instead of just accepting
Speaker 1: that referees make mistakes and that's part of.
Speaker 2: The fourth quarter in game one, but turn that game
Speaker 2: Brown drives. That's the smartest spouse fars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcus Smart's animals hip the ground there.
Speaker 7: One.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's your five over run.
Speaker 4: The Brown has played great this basketball game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been you know, he's come through big, especially
Speaker 1: in moments where paid him hasn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think any Jaylen Brown is better
Speaker 3: than Jason Tatum. This horse should be stopped at the
Speaker 3: first word of the sentence. But I do respect and
Speaker 3: I love as a fan of the Speltics that Jalen
Speaker 3: Brown does have a bit of a better like things
Speaker 3: are going tough, I'm getting.
Speaker 4: In the paint at it even as shot a tempt
Speaker 4: at the rim like you did the fade away on
Speaker 4: Draymond the session before. But he's like, I'm touching it
Speaker 4: different as well.
Speaker 1: And this is a this is where it gets into
Speaker 1: like a tougher conversation, which is like at the highest
Speaker 1: levels of basketball, you really do see the difference between
Speaker 1: the apex athletes and a really good right tam is
Speaker 1: a really good athlete, but he's not score Yeah by.
Speaker 3: Brown two and the chat step that are in that
Speaker 3: past like Oblin Stare I got the mask. It really
Speaker 3: is crazy, but we it's not the same play obviously,
Speaker 3: but we just watched on Monday the game seven behind
Speaker 3: the back pass and bounds and games.
Speaker 2: Like just hurting them you can't help himself.
Speaker 1: Step has a little bit of that flair that's part
Speaker 1: of his game. And by the way, the Warriors have
Speaker 1: always been a high turnover even when they've been great.
Speaker 3: Guys been talking about the Warriors having overstue for ten
Speaker 3: years because we have because having turned.
Speaker 7: Over it's all decided by double figures, no one doubt
Speaker 7: game and no.
Speaker 8: Draymond Green on the floor going down the stretch.
Speaker 7: It's three blocks, potato wigans fakes fires, can't hit.
Speaker 1: One of the things that uh that Jackson pointed out is, uh,
Speaker 1: Steph obviously hits a bunch of free throws at the
Speaker 1: end of his game, but he only makes one three
Speaker 1: and one two in this fourth quarter. So somebody for
Speaker 1: the Warriors here's gonna step up.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who it is.
Speaker 7: Let's see gathers himself. He drives, pulls back five on
Speaker 7: the twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for the record, that's not like trying to
Speaker 1: undercut step In his kids, Like you're if Stepp doesn't
Speaker 1: shoot the way he did to start this Uh, to
Speaker 1: start this game, you're down eighteen and you're going down
Speaker 1: three to one, and when you're losing the series, he
Speaker 1: kept you close.
Speaker 4: He kept you probably down like twelve going into the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have that part at the end of it.
Speaker 1: Nything exactly if he chops him back in the game
Speaker 1: makes us drive on White styles. Okay, Clay Dude had
Speaker 1: great balance on that. He broke Derek White off on
Speaker 1: that nasty a three points so.
Speaker 4: Team that Draymond didn't play.
Speaker 2: Did he come back?
Speaker 4: In kind of he doesn't even come back.
Speaker 2: In the games. Tatum gets away lay up. How about
Speaker 2: make that corner pass.
Speaker 1: Though m h grim finishing has always been an issue
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: Wigans gets it side his shot, won't go fight for
Speaker 2: the rebound.
Speaker 1: Wiggins gets it back in nice work from Andrew Wiggins
Speaker 1: high Motor Wiggins. The one year that high Motor Wiggins
Speaker 1: was a thing fifteen points per Wagans. By the way,
Speaker 1: speaking of apex athletes, one dude the Wiggins is high
Speaker 1: school dulk knicks gape is.
Speaker 2: Williams.
Speaker 1: Brown spins into traffic Smart the drive. He just seemed
Speaker 1: to like shop off the ground and to say before
Speaker 1: the show, I'm surprised it didn't give him all that.
Speaker 8: And Curry knew he was beaten, took the foul early pass.
Speaker 1: Probably do you have sixteen rebounds in this game?
Speaker 2: Eric, no question, side out second team foul.
Speaker 1: If that's true, that's an insane stat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Curry with three personals, all right, Chompson seventeen
Speaker 2: and sixteen.
Speaker 1: That's a line like a damn you twenty twenty from
Speaker 1: Wiggins in a middle finals game.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Also, I don't know about clamping, but making life very
Speaker 3: difficult for Jason tam and a.
Speaker 1: Twenty five and fifteen game five. Yeah, Wiggins was special
Speaker 1: in this. I still playing like I still claim to
Speaker 1: that as a Lakers fan and wants them.
Speaker 3: It's hard to not watch that and be like, of
Speaker 3: course the Wordsompson like he had.
Speaker 4: He was their second best player and in the championship
Speaker 4: winning season.
Speaker 1: I really think one of the fas that I really
Speaker 1: think that personal issue we had that kept him off
Speaker 1: the course so much.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think that really just hurt his reputation amongst the
Speaker 1: Warriors fans, just because it was like an aval and
Speaker 1: then it broke his rhythm and he's always been.
Speaker 2: Such a rhythm player. Yeah, Austin still up four here,
Speaker 2: Gass shot on the man.
Speaker 1: Hurry up, dribbled back to poll, beautiful close out attack.
Speaker 2: Jordan's Biggs again, Wiggins again on the glass, and.
Speaker 4: It's still losing. He doesn't score again, then eric Linus.
Speaker 2: Grad your defense security.
Speaker 1: He doesn't score against someone else that second shot. Great
Speaker 1: defense from Clay Read that perfectly on the left right
Speaker 1: to left cross to set up on the right hand
Speaker 1: and beat.
Speaker 2: Him to the spot.
Speaker 1: Surry looking for that opening the lost Clay boom once again.
Speaker 1: Step just draws two, just dribbling the basketball up the
Speaker 1: Portland transitions.
Speaker 8: In transition and off. Second shot.
Speaker 1: That was a massive shot from.
Speaker 2: Clay good touch pass by Curry.
Speaker 1: That was kind of a no dip to see that
Speaker 1: he went right up with it on that when Robert
Speaker 1: Williams closing out for Curry. Fourth row, Jalen Brown stupid
Speaker 1: shot right after, so Warriors take the lead. Jalen Brown
Speaker 1: comes down and forces on the movie.
Speaker 2: It's nine rebounds in the game to go with thirty
Speaker 2: three points. He drops and Harry will bring it back
Speaker 2: out smart harassing carry Williams on him.
Speaker 1: Look this is the switch. Yeah, he just dribbles right
Speaker 1: around and like these bigs, they struggled. Like Williams is
Speaker 1: very athletic compared to Biggs. But it's just another thing
Speaker 1: guarding Step in space.
Speaker 4: I mean, we talked about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know after I rewatched the Games seven
Speaker 3: finals on Monday, I know people say he just did
Speaker 3: not have the easibility getting around Tristan Thompson about that.
Speaker 4: It was not he was not kicking an ice like
Speaker 4: he's cooking an ice.
Speaker 2: At this point.
Speaker 5: It's Draymond Green and Robert Williams, who's played thirty one
Speaker 5: minutes out.
Speaker 1: This is why I refer to it as the best version.
Speaker 1: I just think he had a level of.
Speaker 2: Off the durable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Raymond, we're going to one of our pods at
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: When we come back with three twenty one remaining.
Speaker 4: He said what he said on one of our pots
Speaker 4: at the time that he thinks, Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Just it's really not a hard one for me. I'm
Speaker 1: just a big believer in experience, being a big asset for.
Speaker 8: The podcast tonight, Yeah say it.
Speaker 2: Jeff picked up Horford.
Speaker 1: What did he say?
Speaker 4: They can't wait for the podcast tonight. I was getting
Speaker 4: supxcited whenever.
Speaker 2: They mentioned the pod. I'm going away the broadcast.
Speaker 7: It comes up short. That's some terrific defense from Horford
Speaker 7: and then.
Speaker 2: A loose ball.
Speaker 1: What a cool experience, man, We'll go the other ways loud.
Speaker 2: He picks up the personal Draymond Green coming back into
Speaker 2: the ball game. But this is outstanding.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna get to do anything that cool with me.
Speaker 2: Jack, who it was? I was?
Speaker 4: I was in the defense Warriors Championships celebration. Who is
Speaker 4: the coolest night of my life?
Speaker 2: That's the fourteen on the pedal. Thompson guarding Brown. Brown
Speaker 2: on the drive, gets in the paint, kicks it out.
Speaker 1: Great defense from Draymond, excellent closed out Seorgan.
Speaker 7: Brown, the rebound back out to White. Derek Whake continues
Speaker 7: down a lane, Horford to Tatum, Tatum to Spin.
Speaker 2: Smart tries another three.
Speaker 1: That's not a terrible look closet he had in any
Speaker 1: game in his career.
Speaker 6: The answer was defense screen to try to get the
Speaker 6: matchup that I back to that Steph Curry won on one,
Speaker 6: Curry looking for.
Speaker 7: Opening Kesake, you know, and the double team finds Looney.
Speaker 7: Looney nearly stripped, dives on the ball, comes up with
Speaker 7: a chuck clock winding down.
Speaker 1: To take this a step further, like the Draymond quote
Speaker 1: to you when he was basically calling this series, when
Speaker 1: I don't think that comes from just like aamless arrogance
Speaker 1: or confidence. I literally think he's like, oh, like, these
Speaker 1: dudes won't be able to score on us when we
Speaker 1: really watch. I think that ultimately is why he believed they.
Speaker 2: War.
Speaker 1: I think you looked at it and He's like, I
Speaker 1: want to trust these Tatum all the ways I don't
Speaker 1: trust these Jaylen Brown shots, Like I think we can
Speaker 1: guard these guys eventually, so we'll get the stops we
Speaker 1: need to get.
Speaker 8: The Warriors.
Speaker 2: Picked up by Horford here in game four.
Speaker 1: Look at how Raymond trump that right hand driving I'm
Speaker 1: telling on Jalen Brown at the end of this series
Speaker 1: was outrageously and it was kind of funny because the
Speaker 1: story not to say that Draymond did before he works
Speaker 1: on Dalen Brown. He certainly did, but like the storyline
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the series was like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: can't guard Jalen.
Speaker 2: Until six point.
Speaker 1: That's a nasty shot.
Speaker 8: Dang, but Mike again, it.
Speaker 3: Happens most Splash brothers getting a bang call in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarters.
Speaker 1: Off the defense and look at the jab to get just.
Speaker 2: Enough room from White.
Speaker 3: Derek watched the ball for just watch like Derek White
Speaker 3: takes his takes his eyes off of this basketball. They're
Speaker 3: off of Steph and watching the basketball for like point
Speaker 3: point two seconds and Steph the darts the other way.
Speaker 4: Compass and cry looking at the part that and then
Speaker 4: death is gone.
Speaker 1: And this is why off ball defense is or off
Speaker 1: ball movement is so important for shooters and why it
Speaker 1: kills me that guy's like Dame never embraced it. It's
Speaker 1: like such an easy way to get defenders out of
Speaker 1: position because they're always looking the other way.
Speaker 2: Man ball, man ball, man ball.
Speaker 1: You get these little gaps in time where you can
Speaker 1: where you can check. Yeah, Like I thought, I thought,
Speaker 1: like for all to talk about early in the series
Speaker 1: about Draymond needing the guard Jalens, Let's give straight place
Speaker 1: some credit figure.
Speaker 2: Sailing out when he needed or for corner three. That's
Speaker 2: a shot.
Speaker 1: And Jalen had some other big games in the series.
Speaker 1: I think he's a couple of massive ones towards the end.
Speaker 1: But like the point is that this is the game
Speaker 1: they had to get, and Clay got the stops he
Speaker 1: needed to get in the game.
Speaker 2: Pulls back to Draymond Green up top Wiggins play tops
Speaker 2: on a three, has a great offense rebound from Draymond.
Speaker 4: Shot was calling u stuff like the green goblin mask.
Speaker 2: Floats in the green again bring the loading.
Speaker 1: By the way, that was a short role possession. That
Speaker 1: one of those short roles that he may trying so hard.
Speaker 2: Health to give a green in the pocket.
Speaker 1: It was a switch, but Raymond slipped out of the
Speaker 1: switch really fast and got behind his mane happen.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really a blitz.
Speaker 1: That was a great example with Raymond rolling situation, staying
Speaker 1: convicted the Brown.
Speaker 2: And won a defensive game for times.
Speaker 1: Tom, I tell you what, that's just enough juice on
Speaker 1: a repaired Achilles and a repaired a c l.
Speaker 2: Just enough juice and that's a gutsy, gutsy decision.
Speaker 1: And wow, look at the pursuit of the ball there
Speaker 1: was crazy.
Speaker 2: With fifty second Kyrie Tries goes.
Speaker 1: Down and Jalen Jalen's aimless ball pressure against Steph Curry seventy.
Speaker 1: He just cost his team another two points.
Speaker 2: Second foul on Horford.
Speaker 6: Steph Curry continued to keep his foot on the gas,
Speaker 6: realizing he's not gonna look put it down. He's got
Speaker 6: to continue to do you take the contact and they're
Speaker 6: going to challenge that call.
Speaker 7: Challenging it A Curry pushed off with that left off
Speaker 7: and his talent in the run to the defensive file
Speaker 7: on the plane.
Speaker 2: That's James Caper's the crew cheek.
Speaker 3: One of those Steph Curry games and a lot of
Speaker 3: his games like this, but sometimes it's a.
Speaker 4: Little more like intentional about gaming Lee. He is just
Speaker 4: playing in the final time, did he like to.
Speaker 2: The ball once?
Speaker 4: Like how many high picking us? Like not even that many.
Speaker 4: He's just kind of playing the game and he ends
Speaker 4: up with passing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just don't think it's like I
Speaker 1: I really I got a lot of ship putting him
Speaker 1: up at number six from my player rankings, and like,
Speaker 1: I just was so amazed that he started that incredibly
Speaker 1: Warriors roster and twenty offense and like that really is
Speaker 1: the thing for me, is like there's a challenge. I
Speaker 1: think that was a very depsibility to be this like
Speaker 1: incredibly dynamic score while all being in the flow of
Speaker 1: the offense just freaking locks this level team or something.
Speaker 2: I always think it's been underrated.
Speaker 1: Like I'm a big Lebron guy, you guys know I am,
Speaker 1: And I think Lebron is a better player than Steph
Speaker 1: when when they were both at their beats. But I
Speaker 1: do think Steph was a little bit, just a tiny
Speaker 1: bit better, and a big part of it was just
Speaker 1: his ability to just play modern offense in the flow.
Speaker 2: But do Stephan performance environment from Stan Curry but.
Speaker 1: Then also, like in the twenty twenty three series against
Speaker 1: the Lakers, like he can also just be like, all right,
Speaker 1: you need me a run forty pick and rolls tonight
Speaker 1: do that too?
Speaker 2: I mean that the long Game seven against.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, quick corner three boy off agins, the rebound,
Speaker 7: bigre not my legs, Curry double team trying to get
Speaker 7: away foms.
Speaker 3: I've had forty three best player in the game. Time
Speaker 3: Lot was awesome, Wiggins was awesome. Pool was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Who was awesome in the first half, especially remaining in
Speaker 1: some of the Celtic fans heading for the exits. What
Speaker 1: a road performance from Stephen Curry the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1: He knows facing a possibility of falling three to one
Speaker 1: back in the series and slam.
Speaker 4: You're talking about the Bay Area brain Shrek.
Speaker 3: Branch trust deciding not to build a team around him
Speaker 3: the next test, Like that's I get it. And they
Speaker 3: criticizing a different ops like in are totally ballads, especially
Speaker 3: in some of those teams. Or after you after watching
Speaker 3: this game, how could you not stay hey Jordan and like,
Speaker 3: how could you watch this and be like we gotta
Speaker 3: switch it up?
Speaker 1: No, the funk up? Was not trading to main Marilu
Speaker 1: wise men. Those are that was where they went wrong.
Speaker 2: If they do that, they just simply have more talent
Speaker 2: around their four game.
Speaker 3: The draft picks told you about the batch wise men
Speaker 3: and the drafting stuff.
Speaker 2: You're the most important game. Boer off this thing unless
Speaker 2: the full off some unbelievable miracle.
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that was of course, I've
Speaker 1: always been like like it. It took it took me
Speaker 1: growing up and getting the getting away from the AS
Speaker 1: Warriors rivalries for me to really appreciate it. But like,
Speaker 1: I just think that this defense has been I just
Speaker 1: think he's founding like the supreme leader and like competitor
Speaker 1: of his era.
Speaker 2: Like I just just such a With five minutes left,
Speaker 2: the non war is made.
Speaker 4: And when the Patriots got him, like I was still.
Speaker 2: I thought they were I thought they were in.
Speaker 7: They've seen it all, bitter disappointments in finals, trying to
Speaker 7: find that magic again.
Speaker 1: He kept waiting for the perfect player, and like sometimes
Speaker 1: you just gotta like Wigans wasn't the perfect player either,
Speaker 1: but he found a way for his talent to eventually
Speaker 1: fit into a role and it worked.
Speaker 2: You know, But coach I gotta ask you, all right,
Speaker 2: perfect be the enemy of good. I think that's an
Speaker 2: expression of the popular expression for a reason like that
Speaker 2: has been an impact.
Speaker 1: It's the situation with this cominga situation it's like they're
Speaker 1: waiting for the perfect deal and.
Speaker 2: It ain't.
Speaker 1: It ain't time for that anymore, Like that time has passed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jackson big takeaways.
Speaker 4: Big takeaways are that Steph Curry is a bad man.
Speaker 2: Is a big takeaway.
Speaker 3: But also, I mean, I think it's easy to the
Speaker 3: everything changes so fast in the NBA is my big
Speaker 3: takeaway because it really Klay Thompson one year later, where
Speaker 3: like that dude can't move, like he can't even move
Speaker 3: out there on defense.
Speaker 4: I think he was doing a very good job defensively here.
Speaker 3: Wiggins, I mean, Wiggins has you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: other circumstances that seem to lead to some of his struggles,
Speaker 3: but looks dynamic out there on both unto the floor tonight,
Speaker 3: JP looked the perfect Steph light microwave score off the
Speaker 3: bench for them, and then you know, for other reasons,
Speaker 3: it sort of goes south, obviously, but it's it's just
Speaker 3: crazy how quickly the cycle changes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that really, especially for these older
Speaker 1: veteran teams. That's really the thing is the window is tight.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like that title, like the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two title, like that's why it's so hard
Speaker 1: to give up some of these teams. The circumstances break right,
Speaker 1: A couple of young teams aren't. Like if you're in
Speaker 1: the Western Conference right now, if you're the Warriors, like,
Speaker 1: how could you not think like we have a chance.
Speaker 1: All it takes is for Denver and okay See to
Speaker 1: play in the second round and one of them to
Speaker 1: get eliminated, and for Denver to advance, and then Jokic
Speaker 1: just can't guard Steph in space, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you could have your you could have like the it like,
Speaker 1: and then the team comes out of the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: that's flawed, out of a weak East like it just
Speaker 1: the it's I understand why some people want to be
Speaker 1: realists about the situation when you're in that second tier
Speaker 1: of contenders and look towards the future, but like it
Speaker 1: goes against the competitive nature piece, And this ultimately is
Speaker 1: why I respect the guys like Steph, Like you do
Speaker 1: you think Steph still thinks he can win absolute fuckolutely
Speaker 1: he thinks he can, and like, how do you not
Speaker 1: give him a shot?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And like I get it's a little more complicated when
Speaker 1: you're Lebron and he's forty one, and like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: really have to look towards the future soon, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with you. And then as far
Speaker 1: as takeaways for the game, like I again, like Clay's defense,
Speaker 1: which is something we've talked about over the years, Andrew
Speaker 1: Wiggins rebounding and just overall his activity and all the
Speaker 1: good that he did. The last thing I'll say is,
Speaker 1: like email Udoka talked about this, but Boston really seemed
Speaker 1: to get psyched out on offense and it starts to
Speaker 1: get into some sketchy process instead of like getting to
Speaker 1: the right matchups and then attacking those matchups towards the rim,
Speaker 1: when they got favorable matchups, they settled, and that really
Speaker 1: was what did them in. They just never really had
Speaker 1: They never were able to find like a pet action
Speaker 1: or a pet set that they could run that got
Speaker 1: them consistent good looks that they could hit. And that
Speaker 1: was why Draymond felt like they were gonna win the series.
Speaker 2: He just knew.
Speaker 1: They never really had an answer, but thank you guys
Speaker 1: for hanging out with us. This has been a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. We sincerely appreciate you guys supporting us in
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Speaker 1: with season previous. We've tweaked our format. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: division by division, so we're gonna actually do a season
Speaker 1: preview for all thirty teams. Now, for the teams towards
Speaker 1: the bottom, I promise you I'm not going to spend
Speaker 1: ten minutes deeply breaking down the team, but we are
Speaker 1: gonna at least very briefly touch on those teams, and
Speaker 1: we will get to all thirty teams through the divisions.
Speaker 1: I believe we're doing three divisions next week and three
Speaker 1: divisions the following week, and then the week after that
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into our player our power rankings and
Speaker 1: awards predictions and stuff like that. But again, we appreciate
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Speaker 2: I'll see you guys the