1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line, 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: Happy Thursday, everybody, Cowboys Nation included. Welcome in the Girls 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: Talk Boys Talk presented by invisil Line. Here in the 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: SWBC studio, I'm Nicole Hutcheson alongside Aisha Morrison and Jazz 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: Mo Nay how y'all doing late days. 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: Lotty Daddy. 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 5: It's almost Sunday, almost Monday, Lotty Daddy. Once sport almost Sunday. 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 5: Then Thursday is almost Monday. 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: There we go, and you know what it is? Monday? Right? 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: What you looking at? Way? I was rounding up. 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 5: I was like, no, that's Overshon's quote from earlier this season, 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 5: like week three or four something. He was like, Wednesday, 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 5: it's almost Sunday. So I've just been living that way 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 5: all season and it's helped. Give a shout out to 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: Demaron Overshow, shout out to Wisdom. 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: I'm crying well all right, Monday, the Cowboys take on 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: the Bing Goals. 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: That's about four days from now, right, five days from now, regardless, 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: it's getting closer days getting closer. 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: But first we've got to go through our little updated 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: practice report. 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 4: It was just sent out to us. 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: Of course, you have Tyler Guid and see Lamb Oh 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: the shoulder injury. Did not participate. Zach Martin of course 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: now out for the season. We're going to talk about 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: that in just a second. Wanya Thomas, we already know 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: he will be out for two to three weeks as 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 3: well with a knee injury. 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: Nick Vigil did not participate. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: Guys who were limited Brandon Cook's, Tradeon On Diggs, Malie Hooker, 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks, Jordan Lewis, and Demarvian Over shown with hamstring 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: guys of course. 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: Full participant, Doron Blamb. 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: We love to see Doron Bland back in. 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: The full Jake Ferguson full participant as well, love to 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: see this as well. 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Marshawn Kneeland I also did Zua. 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 6: Full Cooper Rush. 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: Those are some good names on that full list, yes, 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: oh yeah. 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 6: And even the guys that didn't practice today again because 48 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 6: the game's on Monday. We have to keep in mind 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 6: that this is basically like a Mick So it's Wednesday 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 6: to today's Wednesday. Yes, it's a Wednesday, So you have 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 6: to keep that because that's when I seen it. I 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 6: was like, Lord, is getting closer to the day, and 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, you have an extra day. We'll 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 6: have really tomorrow. A gauge of like who gonna go, 55 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 6: who ain't gonna go? 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, exactly. 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: We do know who is not going to be playing 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: for the rest of the season. 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: That is Zach Martin. 60 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy announcing in the press conference earlier today that 61 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: he will have to go undergo surgery for his ankle, 62 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: And here's a quote from him, is he's gonna be missed. 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: Who are not going to replace Sack Martin by any means. 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: He brings so much to the team and the team culture. 65 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 3: We all recognize what kind of player he's been here 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: in Dallas, but the type of person he is. Pause, 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: people gravitate to him, his leadership. He'll definitely be missed 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: in that area. I had to add the little pause 69 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: because you got to emphasize. 70 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: That part of the sentence. 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: But when you talk about Zach Martin, What are the 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: Cowboys going to be losing from this offensive line and 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: from this team as a whole, I. 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: Would say a lot of leadership and example. I know 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: in terms of numbers things looked rough the season. There 76 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 5: were a lot of games that had people scratching their 77 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 5: heads as to what was going on with him all season. 78 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 5: So I think for a lot of people one, there's 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 5: a sense of relief these past few weeks. I don't 80 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 5: know if relief is a right word, but it's reconciling 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: a lot of the confusion knowing that he's been struggling 82 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: with such significant injuries to the point where now he 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: has to have season ending surgery. Right. But I think 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: about going into the beginning of the season when people 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: were questioning how Cooper Bebe would do as a center, 86 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: and there were so many people who sided the fact, well, 87 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: he's got Zach Martin next to him, so he should 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 5: be fine, and as long as he can rely on 89 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: that guidance, he should be fine. And so to me, 90 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 5: that's just one of the examples of just what Zach 91 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: Martin means in terms of leadership, in terms of experience, 92 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: in terms of being a guide for a lot of 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 5: the young guys who are on the O line. Now, 94 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: even with the guys who have stepped up in his absence, 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 5: you can kind of tell, and you can kind of 96 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: hear in some of the stories that they tell that 97 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: you know a lot of their work ethic, a lot 98 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: of what they bring to the table, very different style, 99 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 5: especially in the case of Hoffmann, but you can tell 100 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: they're inspired by Zach Martin. So hopefully that inspiration continues 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 5: to you know, linger, But it sounds like he's gonna 102 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 5: be going for the rest of the season. Unfortunately. 103 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 6: I know you're said, I'm listen, there's you know, there's 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 6: the saying that like, you won't find a unit as 105 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 6: strong as an offensive line. There's a bond that those 106 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: guys share. 107 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 5: And. 108 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 6: I just I mean, and if we're being honest about 109 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 6: Zach Martin, I do not know how long his ankle 110 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 6: is has been bothering him, but I distinctively remember like 111 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 6: last year there were times where he was struggling with 112 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 6: that ankle. I feel like this is something that he 113 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 6: is tough through long past this year. I feel like 114 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 6: last year I saw a regression in some of his 115 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 6: play in the latter part of the year and he 116 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 6: was slower to get up and things like that, and 117 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 6: people were talking about, you know, him getting older and stuff. 118 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 6: But he has been such a mammoth along this offensive line. 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 6: And when I say that, I mean in like, not 120 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 6: just a physical tense. I mean like his presence, his spirit, 121 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 6: and not only is he an example on the field. 122 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 6: Like one of my favorite things, y'all is when the 123 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 6: top one hundred come out and because it is one 124 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 6: of the few times you get to hear you know, 125 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 6: there's podcasts now, but you get to hear what other 126 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 6: players think about your guys, and I think that's valuable. 127 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 6: I think it does give you some insight and a 128 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: level of respect that players spewed out for Zach Martin, 129 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 6: and we're talking about some of the best defensive linemen 130 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 6: in the league. Like, this was my hardest matchup, this 131 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 6: was the heart, This was my welcome to the NFL moment. 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 6: And to have one of those guys on your team again. 133 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 6: We know that he's sure, sure a Hall of Famer, 134 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 6: but this is a disheartening thing. I know he hates 135 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 6: to go, you know, for things to be this way, 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 6: to finish the season this way, but I guess it's just. 137 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 7: A part of the game. It's just a part of 138 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 7: how things go. 139 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about Jazz touching on the leadership qualities 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: that Zach Martin has, and unfortunately I didn't we didn't 141 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: know the news until today. But I talked to bron 142 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: Kauffman yesterday and just asked him like, of course, no 143 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: one wants to receive opportunity because of a player getting injured, 144 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: their teammate getting injured. But Zach Martin's this is Zach Martin, 145 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: Like he don't care about you filling in his. 146 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 7: Place, like you know what I mean, He's. 147 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: It's I replaceable, I mean, but he also instills confidence 148 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: in those guys, and that's something that brock Hoffman has 149 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: said that he's really truly done for him during his 150 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: time year for a couple of years. Because you think 151 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: about a guy like Brock who had to come in 152 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: and battle for time behind Tyler Biattish, and then now 153 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: the Cowboys drafted Cooper b b and then he's having 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: a battle in training camp for the starting center role. 155 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: And then now he came in having a fight behind 156 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: Zach Martin for more opportunities. 157 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: But now he's getting the opportunity now. 158 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: But He said that one thing that Zach did, a 159 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: message to him from Zach going into the Giants game 160 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: when he. 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: Got the start was just a beat be chippy. Can 162 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: you that word? 163 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean he was just like, use your chippiness, 164 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: Like this is something that you bring to the. 165 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: Table that one loves, like, use it. So Brock did 166 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: say a lot. 167 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: Of good things for about Zach, but you also have 168 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: to think about the way that he's helped groom these 169 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: running backs too. Like you look about the success that 170 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: Ezekiel Elliott. 171 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: Had with you know, in his early careers. 172 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: Tonya Collard, hell Ricododell, now, like you know, like this 173 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: is something that you cannot brush off to the side. 174 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: Zach Martin's truly made an impact. And I know we're 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: probably talking about this like he's retiring. 176 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: He ain't retiring yet. 177 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: Hopefully we're gonna pray about that, but no, yeah, hopefully 178 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: we're not seeing the last of Zach Martin. 179 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: But surely a lot of these guys have to step up. 180 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: Where is the confidence level in Brock Kaufman moving forward? 181 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: I think the confidence level is pretty high. As a 182 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: matter of fact, when you said the word chippy, my 183 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: first thought is like Chippy just does not feel. 184 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 7: Like I'm big enough word for him. 185 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: Not yes, tonight's my bad. 186 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: I don't even know if Fist sees the word. 187 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: It's really just like he's not gonna use the words 188 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: on this lovely camera here. 189 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 5: No, but he brings something different to the table, and 190 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: what I love is that people love it. 191 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: You know. 192 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: For a couple of weeks now, the question that's been 193 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: lingering in my head has been like, how do how 194 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: do the coaches feel about what he brings to the table, 195 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: because like when you watch broadcasts and even some other podcasts, 196 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 5: they talk about how you know, like, oh, he's being 197 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 5: a little rough, he's continuingly contact too long. They basically 198 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: trying to make it sound like he's not always doing 199 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: things legally, which he doesn't get called. And yes, the 200 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 5: refs do see it. They can go back and address 201 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 5: certain things sometimes, so yes, what he's doing is legal. 202 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 5: But like even times, what I've seen him just like 203 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 5: throw a dude on the ground one handed, just like 204 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 5: get on the ground. He is such a force to 205 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 5: be reckoned with. So I really like what he's bringing 206 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 5: to the game, and I love that he's getting a 207 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: lot of support people aren't trying to like dampen his 208 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 5: aggression or get him to reel it back in. They 209 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: definitely support it. You know, Mike McCarthy has been asked 210 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: about it, and the people who I have had the 211 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 5: opportunity to talk about it with do seem like, even 212 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 5: with the suggestion that he's like some people think he's 213 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 5: being extra or whatever, they love what he's bringing to 214 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 5: the offensive line. So props to him. 215 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 7: I mean, here's the thing about Brock. 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 6: You know, we talk about him playing with this kind 218 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 6: of chip on his shoulder and everything. That also has 219 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 6: to do with the position that he's playing right now, 220 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 6: Like at center, he could he can kind of get 221 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 6: away with being six four three oh two three oh five, 222 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 6: but he's a guard and so he is a bit 223 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: undersized to guard standards. 224 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 7: That extra flair he plays with, I. 225 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 6: Think that edge is something that kind of helps balance 226 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 6: things out at the fact that he's undersized. You know, 227 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 6: people always talk about you a little smart. You gotta 228 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 6: look trust me, I know. But in regard to his play, 229 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: you know, you asked Nicole how much confidence I have 230 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 6: in him. I have confidence in seeing his technique and 231 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 6: his ability. 232 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 7: We're going to continue. 233 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 6: This is such a pivotal time because again, if you 234 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 6: find out that you have a guard that can go 235 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 6: up against starting level players that can play, that puts 236 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 6: you in position going into the draft not feeling like 237 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 6: this is a surefire need also too, I mean you 238 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 6: look at TJ. Bass and you talk about Austin Richards. 239 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 6: You could go into the draft feeling a little bit 240 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: more comfortable and again not having to feel like you 241 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 6: have to address something for need. 242 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 7: That's number one. Number two. 243 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 6: In regard to his technique, I'm looking at his hands. 244 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 6: I'm looking at how he sits into his hips. He 245 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 6: has a good base, his knees aren't too his knees 246 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 6: aren't too bent. You see him get in and climbing 247 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 6: to the second level, being able to disengage blockers and 248 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 6: get to the next level. Also, the communication from him 249 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 6: is good as well, because he has center background at 250 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 6: this point, so he understands the checks and stuff like that. 251 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 6: So he probably is in a position also to help 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 6: Cooper bebe because he's been here, and so to me, 253 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, I love his flair. 254 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 7: I'm going to be really paying. 255 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 6: Attention to how he continues because people are again, you 256 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 6: talk about it all the time with Tyler Guidon is 257 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 6: that people see his tendencies and they repeat them. Brock 258 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 6: Kaffmin getting these starts and allowing him time to play 259 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 6: a Jesse Holly mentioned, this is going to to to 260 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 6: have give teams more information. How does he counter that? 261 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 6: How does he build off of that? You know, because 262 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 6: if he compare the chippiness with the technique content like 263 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 6: consistently that he's playing with, then you might really have 264 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 6: a player. And that's that's then we're having a whole 265 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 6: other conversation. 266 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: You know something funny about brock Kaffman. It's about his chippiness, fisiness, 267 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: whatever word we want to use for this to describe it. 268 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: He had just asked him. I was like, is this 269 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: something that like. 270 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: Just helps fuel you or do you just enjoy getting 271 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: in people's heads? 272 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 7: He was like, he from North Carolina. 273 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 6: Bo, Yeah, North Carolina. 274 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 7: If you talk to him, he's nuts. 275 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: This is how he is. 276 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: He's not it's not a gimmick, it's not a game. 277 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 7: Like he really is. 278 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: Like that, yeah mm hm. 279 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: And just looking at what he has done on two 280 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: hundred and five pass blocking snaps over the last two years, 281 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: Hoffman's allowed no sacks in just thirteen pressures, So like 282 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: it kind of goes back to now you go into 283 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: the draft or this off season and you don't necessarily 284 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: need a guard, but switching gears over to chew Maridoga, 285 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: where does that leave the confidence for you guys and Tuma. 286 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 5: I am not mad at what we've seen from Chuma 287 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 5: so far. Yeah, I do want to see more. Are 288 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: we expecting him to be the left tackle position? 289 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: Although because Tyler Guidon did not participate, Okay, so we 290 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: don't know yet. 291 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll find out. 292 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: Saturdays are typically always the days that we find out 293 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: who will. 294 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: Be playing well. Whoever's over there is going to deal 295 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 5: with the challenge, and I think that'll give us a 296 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 5: lot more information to actually have confidence. So right now 297 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 5: it's low, but not because of anything that he's done. 298 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 5: It's just because I haven't seen enough to be like, 299 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: oh yeah, I'm confident. I still need to see more. 300 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 5: But what we have seen so far is the snaps 301 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 5: that he has had to take in Tyler Gouiiton's absence. 302 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: I think he did a very solid job, Like the 303 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 5: O line in general, considering how how much in and 304 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: out of the O line that there has been. I 305 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: think in the past, when we've seen that sort of 306 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 5: replacement of players on the O line, it hasn't gone 307 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: so well. And I would say the latter part of 308 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: this season has gone better than a lot of people expected. 309 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: So he's solid and I wouldn't be mad if he 310 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 5: did end up playing, but I would reserve quantifying my 311 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 5: confidence until after watching Monday night's game. 312 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: Real fast, because Christy actually brought this question up. 313 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: Was that Tuesday or Wednesday days a running together anyways? 314 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: Because yesterday was Wednesday, Tuesday. 315 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: There we go, and she had asked Ayisha and I 316 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: think just doesn't matter, and she just asked, well, would 317 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: you guys be comfortable and possibly seeing h Tyler Smith 318 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: move out to left tackle or would you rather have 319 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: to have and have left guard or would you like 320 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: to Maydoga to stale up tackle and keep Tyler Smith 321 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: and left guard? 322 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 7: That is which would you prefer? 323 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 5: So, if if Tyler Smith went to left tackle, who 324 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 5: would be the guard? 325 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: Tuma? 326 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 5: No? No, no, no, I would say leave Tuma as 327 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: a tackle right now, because he did he did a 328 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 5: good job last time he was in there, and I 329 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 5: really like Tyler Smith at guard. So I would say, 330 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: just unless something else terribly wrong, just just do that. 331 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 5: That's fine. 332 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: There's no wrong answer. 333 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 5: I don't know. 334 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 4: I think you said the same thing. 335 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I said that. 336 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 6: Just just keep Chuma out there because you I mean 337 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 6: you Tyler Smith is playing good football. 338 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: Just and do you agree like technique wise, he still 339 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: kind of moves like a guard even when he is 340 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 5: a tackle, right who like Tyler Smith. 341 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 6: And in some respects, yeah, I mean it's it's a 342 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 6: little different. I do think that Tuma has had I 343 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 6: just think him being on an island with some of 344 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 6: the foot stuff that he's had, and he's dealt with. 345 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 7: You put him in. 346 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 6: I felt like in preseason we saw a little bit 347 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 6: better of production, specifically in the run game from him. 348 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm my confidence level he's gonna When you 349 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 6: talk about the Bengals defensive line and uh things and stuff, 350 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 6: I Sheldon Rankins against uh, Tyler Smith is an interesting matchup. 351 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 6: But then also to Trey Hendrickson, I really am curious 352 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 6: as to where they're gonna line up Trey Hendrickson. You know, 353 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 6: if they decide, you know, tumor being a veteran and things. 354 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: It may not be. 355 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 7: It may be one of those things where like they 356 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 7: maybe don't just go at him. 357 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 6: I think if maybe Tyler Gatton goes, then they might 358 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: go switch sides and have them go there. But if not, 359 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 6: then I think I think Tuma will be okay. I 360 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 6: you also to your if you are getting Jake Ferguson back, 361 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 6: Schoonmaker has improved in blocking. Brev and span Ford have 362 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 6: shown they've improved in blocking. 363 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 7: I'm okay with being. 364 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 6: Able to If y'all two tight ends is better than one, surprise, 365 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 6: three would be a party, you understand me, because you 366 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 6: can have him out there to help Chip and do 367 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 6: those things or whatever case may be, in help but 368 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 6: also still have a receiving threat on the back. 369 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 7: End and not just one. 370 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean it, Skinn's been doing better than 371 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 5: in that area. But like when it comes to the 372 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 5: Cowboys tight ends, who are the best receiving facts, I mean, 373 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 5: I think we want Jake Ferguson out there in that role, 374 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 5: you know, so we'll see, could be fun, could be. 375 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 2: Fun, all right. 376 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: Next we're gonna have a little bit more fun. 377 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Cooper Rush and his improvement and 378 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: how this offense can improve and why they need to improve. 379 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: Moving on until Monday. 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That's crazy, 429 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 4: crazy work. 430 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 6: That's the important. 431 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: Gotta make sure they hear it because they will be like, 432 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 5: how much does it cost? 433 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 3: I'm the The most important part about this offense, though, 434 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 3: y'all know something, is the fact that Cooper Rush has improved. 435 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's okay right. 436 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: This will be the fifth game for him as a starter, 437 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: the most he's ever had in a season one last two. 438 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: Of course, they're riding a two game win streak as 439 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: a starter. What have y'all seen from Cooper Rush as 440 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: far as just his improvement. 441 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 5: It's obviously he's getting more comfortable. When he first started, 442 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 5: there was there was basically two camps. There was a 443 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: people who expected him to do what he did a 444 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 5: couple of years ago when Dak Prescott got hurt and 445 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 5: he brought the team through that great run, you know, 446 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 5: all the winds, and then there was the other camp 447 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: was like, well, he doesn't have the same online or 448 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 5: the same defense that existed at that time, so we're 449 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: expecting him to struggle. And he did have some struggles, 450 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 5: and there are still some things that he could improve, 451 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: but you're hearing both anecdotally and seeing on the field 452 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 5: that he is getting more comfortable, that he seems to 453 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 5: have a better connection with his targets. On Monday, Schottenheimer 454 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 5: talked about Brandon Cooks coming back, and he talked about 455 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: a conversation that Brandon Cooks had with Cooper Rush, where, 456 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 5: in so many words, he said that Brandon Cooks and 457 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 5: Cooper Rush were trying to work out their connection on 458 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: a certain play and Brandon Cooks was discussing with him 459 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: some of the nuances of the route and how it 460 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 5: would work, and basically just little things to look for 461 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 5: and how they would make it work, and according to Shady, 462 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: it did work out in the ways that they talked 463 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 5: about that they described, And so I think just having 464 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 5: more conversation like that, because sometimes when a player is 465 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 5: put into the rotation, fans may not have a good 466 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 5: idea of what it takes for them to get comfortable 467 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 5: and for them to actually contribute to the offense. So 468 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 5: knowing that each week conversations like that can happen, that 469 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 5: can improve things, or the old line gets a little 470 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 5: bit more in sync, and that helps him out because 471 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: even with the O line issues, like a lot of 472 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 5: people are talking about, oh, Cooper Rush, he releases the 473 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 5: ball so quickly because he's scared, or at least that 474 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: was the case at first. It's not like he was 475 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 5: releasing the ball quickly and like chucking downfield. He was 476 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 5: he was running for his life. He was ready to 477 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: get rid of it. So I mean that's where some 478 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: of those quick releases came. 479 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: From, the fact that pressure the pressure, you. 480 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 5: Know, And so now we're seeing more quick releases that 481 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 5: seem to be a little bit more planned, a little 482 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: bit more controlled, And so I think guess he gets 483 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 5: more comfortable as he has a lot of these productive 484 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 5: conversations with his targets and with other members of the offense. 485 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 5: I think where we could possibly keep seeing the offense 486 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 5: as a whole as well as Cooper rush improved, Yeah, 487 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 5: he's I agree with you. 488 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 6: He also has improved because you're running the ball better. 489 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, Mercy Jesus. 490 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 5: Quarterbacks do better when there's a solid run game. 491 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 7: It says, I'm like, football is not that complicated, y'all. 492 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 7: It really is not. 493 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 6: Like the ability to run the ball in any capacity 494 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 6: is just easier on a quarterback. And you know, ric 495 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 6: o'dadle having more snaps, having more success has opened up 496 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: the play action game. And it also too, it just 497 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 6: takes pressure off of a Cooper rush when you're when 498 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 6: you're trying to stay ahead of the change. They felt 499 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 6: they had some issues last week kind of getting behind 500 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: to change at times, but they still stuck to the run. 501 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 7: They stayed honest about it. 502 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 6: And then you start to see in that third, late third, 503 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 6: early fourth quarter that some of those bigger runs are 504 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 6: starting to you know, to break. 505 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: Now. 506 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 6: Cincinnati is not about to give up a whole bunch 507 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 6: of explosive runs. 508 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 7: That's not their mo However, you can run the ball 509 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 7: on them. 510 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 4: They are. 511 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 6: Just as bad as bad as the Cowboys as far 512 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 6: as success rate when it comes to stopping the run. 513 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 7: And so to me, I. 514 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 6: Think Cooper Rush can continue the success that we've seen 515 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 6: him have because again you're not asking him that that 516 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 6: first game, what game was that that he threw fifty? 517 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm about to throw up that was crazy. Never never, 518 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 7: never would I ever. 519 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, a backup quarterback at no point down need to 520 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: be doing that much unless. 521 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 5: No quarterback really needs to be throwing that much. 522 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 6: Facts at I think maybe it was Atlanta. No, it 523 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 6: was Houton and I would hate for And this is 524 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 6: a game where Dallas is gonna have to stay true 525 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 6: to it. They're gonna have to just stay because again 526 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 6: Cincinnati can put pressure on you with their ability to score. 527 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 6: This team averages almost seven yards a freaking play, so 528 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 6: they they so they're gonna put pressure on you. You 529 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 6: have to be able to play ball, control, work the run, 530 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 6: allow Cooper Rush to stay comfortable, stay ahead of the chains, 531 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 6: and I think that you can move the ball on 532 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 6: this defense. Also to they play a lot of single 533 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 6: high They just I don't know who they think. 534 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 5: They are they've started playing more too high a little 535 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 5: bit like the past couple of. 536 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 7: Weeks sort of kind of whatever they're there and. 537 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 6: To be, and with their inability to rush the passer, 538 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 6: I mean, they are literally bottom of the league in sacks, 539 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 6: one of the bottom of the league in sacks, like listen, and. 540 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 5: Not doing good as first tackles either. 541 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 7: Facts. So it's like, all right now. 542 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 6: You I would send number nine out there, yes, to 543 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 6: the house, buddy, like catch somebody on a bad angle, 544 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 6: do something. They have some injuries in the safety room. 545 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 6: I just think there should be opportunities there because I 546 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 6: do believe that this def this offensive line will be 547 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 6: able to block it up pretty good. Please, for the 548 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 6: love of muffins, I am begging the Cowboys offensive line. 549 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 6: Do not allow a team that does has twenty one 550 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 6: sex on the year to play you and all of 551 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 6: a sudden have sex. I beg of the I can't 552 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 6: remember what team it was early in the season that 553 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 6: didn't have that many sex and we were like, oh, they's. 554 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 5: Gonna be all right. 555 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: What came out there had like five sacks that game. 556 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: I said, I'm asking, And. 557 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 6: Again, the pockets have been cleaner, pockets have been cleaner 558 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: as of late. So y'all we were just talking about 559 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 6: and that's part of why he succeeded. 560 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 7: Do not let this team that does not. 561 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 5: Have to worry about because one of the things that 562 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: we didn't talk about with brock Hoffman is is his pride. 563 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 5: That's something we can say about the entire line. 564 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: But I have a whole line though not just Rocks pride. 565 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 5: Though and I did just say entire line. Maybe not entire, 566 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: but we don't have to get into who and who 567 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: doesn't have that. But I do think there's enough pride 568 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 5: on the old line for them to not let that happen. 569 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 5: I pray and the single high thing, like you know 570 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 5: what they say, single high, let it fly. 571 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: But I do. 572 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 5: Think that's a thing fat Russia write that on his 573 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: little but no. But I do think regardless of what 574 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 5: they try, whether they decide to, you know, mitigate that 575 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 5: a little bit by doing the too high thing that 576 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 5: they've been doing, a lot of their struggles are this 577 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: are similar despite what they've done as far as adjustments, 578 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 5: so they're still having issues with tackling. Now. As far 579 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: as mistackles, our running backs have not really done that 580 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 5: great in terms of forcing miss tackles. That's something where 581 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 5: our receiving game does have much more strength. But when 582 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 5: it comes to the run game, I think one of 583 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 5: the things that has helped is you're seeing you're seeing 584 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: more blocking at the second level now, and that's that's 585 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 5: helped regodowdle out a lot. So I think if they 586 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: can continue that and recododdle having another hundred yard game, 587 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 5: which I don't think is a lot to ask and 588 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: I think. 589 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: It's not an especially in no game, Like yeah, yeah 590 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 6: you can do that in this game. 591 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 3: You can have And that's the thing though, but you 592 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: have to score points. 593 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: You can run the football, you can. 594 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: Pass the football, officially, you got to score points. 595 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 4: You look back at all these dang games. 596 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: One touchdown against the Giants, two touchdowns against Washington, one 597 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: touchdown against Houston, none against Philly, one against Atlanta. 598 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 5: But jed An fly because how many times have we 599 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 5: seen the Cowboys offense make this long drive down the 600 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 5: field and then either turn the ball over or get 601 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 5: a field goal. 602 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 6: I want them to get as they cannot do that 603 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 6: as possible, I beg of you make it as easy 604 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: as possible for yourself. Please you don't try to do nothing, 605 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 6: get to the one two we are line, I beg 606 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 6: of you just run the ball down there, which I 607 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: will say, I do think that this unit right now, 608 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 6: especially specifically the interior BB Hoffman and Tyler Smith. Yes, 609 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 6: they give you a push right now that you were 610 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 6: not with respect, You were not seeing as as a 611 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 6: unit like something. When you're seeing them come off the ball, 612 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 6: it is a it's. 613 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 7: Together, like they're stepping together. 614 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 6: I do think they can get pushed at the at 615 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 6: the goal line, hoping, yeah, a little bit. 616 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: What more do you want to see from Terrence Steele? 617 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: I feel like we talked about this a little bit 618 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: last week, But what more do you need to see. 619 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: From Terrence Steele? 620 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: Nothing? 621 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 6: I don't need to see anything else. I understand him 622 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 6: as a player. I know what he is, what he's 623 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 6: capable of. I know what he struggles with. 624 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 7: If it's a super spindy, speedy bendy guy. 625 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 6: He oversets his hips, his feet get a little too 626 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 6: wide and people are running past him, that's something that 627 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: he is just going to have to continue to work. 628 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 6: We understand that his past, past setting is something that 629 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 6: he is still working at. And I think it's easy 630 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 6: to forget that this was an undrafted player. 631 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 7: He has built himself up to this point. 632 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: He still has that nasty in the run game you 633 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 6: mentioned getting to the second level. 634 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 7: Girl. 635 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 6: They're doing that with the combo and duo blocks as well. 636 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 6: You know, him and him and Hoffman and BBI has 637 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 6: some fantastic blocks at the soccer level to your point 638 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 6: last week. So keep doing keep finding ways to get 639 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 6: him involved in the run game. 640 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 7: That's where he builds his confidence. 641 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 6: When you run the ball, you also wear pass rushers 642 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: out help your offensive lineman out as well. So I 643 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 6: think that's why we're starting to see him look more 644 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 6: of himself. I just think as a pass protector he's 645 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 6: gonna continue to have to work it. I don't see 646 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 6: anything different than what I expect from him at this point, 647 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 6: and that's okay to me. 648 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 5: Nothing agreed, because it's like, is there anything else I 649 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: need to see? No, I feel like we've been wanting 650 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: to see the same things from him all season and 651 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 5: things that he's still working on, and so he's either 652 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: gonna improve in those areas or he's not. But nothing 653 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 5: else to add to that. 654 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 6: No, It's just it's just one of like this is 655 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 6: sometimes a player is who they are, and you take 656 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 6: the good with the bad, and you take the not 657 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 6: so good, and whenever you figure out ways around. Every 658 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 6: team does not have a freaking star offensive lineman at 659 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 6: every spot. 660 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: That's a good point, and teams. 661 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 6: Figure out ways to help them or to do things 662 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 6: that are conducive to what they do. Again, continue to 663 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 6: find this run game. It's gonna help your offensive lineman 664 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 6: because those speed rushers in the third fourth quarter, they 665 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 6: even get beat up. They tired, they've been having to 666 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 6: tackle or run at them, almost cussed, do something. Just 667 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 6: it's he's fine. 668 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 7: Just row with him. 669 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 5: Nobody got time. I wouldn't be mad at seeing him 670 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: have a little bit of help. 671 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 6: And here's another thing about Terren Steele. I mean he 672 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 6: get a lot of crap. 673 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: Guess who's been healthy all season? Guess what? Guess what offense? 674 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 4: Him and Cooper BB Terren Steele. 675 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 6: This is his second season of just consistently being there, and. 676 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 7: Availability is a is a useful. 677 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 6: Trait in the NFL. I don't care what anyone has. 678 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 6: So it's like I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna talk 679 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: about him when I need to talk about him. But 680 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 6: at this point, we got bigger fish to fry than 681 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 6: right tackle. 682 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 4: Talk about bigger fish fry. 683 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: Who is the biggest threat defensively, of course, aside from 684 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson Dang aside from Trey Hendrickson, who is another 685 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: threat on this Bengals defense. 686 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: That was That was at least I got to go 687 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 5: back and look at the listeners. 688 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 6: Well, Logan Wilson, their linebacker. He's kind of the heart 689 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 6: and soul of what they like to do in the 690 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 6: at the second level, it sounds like he is out 691 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 6: for this game. That's a huge loss because if I 692 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 6: had to name anybody, I would say him, just because 693 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 6: he is that quarterback. Sometimes they use him in blitzing situations. 694 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 6: He's steadying coverage, not quite the outlay, but but very 695 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 6: very smart up here. You can see him processing and 696 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 6: breaking things down. I feel for them losing him. However, 697 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 6: I would say Cam Taylor britt there. 698 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 7: He plays on the left side. He's a cornerback. 699 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 6: He's not giving up much out there. Two ins on 700 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: the year, So for me, he's going to be that 701 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 6: People target him a lot and he kind of holds 702 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 6: up for the most part. So to me that he 703 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 6: would be a guy that maybe you just don't. 704 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 7: I mean, two interceptions ain't a whole whole bunch. 705 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 6: But still he's clearly playing well enough to deflect balls 706 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 6: when he needs to, and he's good in coverage. I 707 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 6: was watching him yesterday and he got a little fistness 708 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 6: to him. This this Bengals defense, Uh, secondary, they're gonna press, 709 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 6: They're gonna try to get in your face. 710 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 7: It's a lot of a what's the word. I can't 711 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 7: say that word. 712 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: It is it is. 713 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 6: I think they know, like we can't stop the run, 714 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 6: so we just gonna be super chippy out here in 715 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 6: the secondary. 716 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 5: So they do so they're trying to overcompensate. 717 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 6: I was gonna say that word when I was like, 718 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 6: I ain't trying to be mean or nothing, but yeah, 719 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 6: like I mean, they do. They're super They're they're they're 720 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 6: a little migfeisty out there, just trying to trying to 721 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 6: stir up some trouble because they understand what's going on 722 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 6: with their front seven judge, you can ye what you got. 723 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I was just gonna say that when it 724 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 5: comes to what he brings to the defense, the reason 725 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: why their defense does have a modicum of hope is 726 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 5: because of him, you know, and especially with eleven TACs, 727 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 5: I'm sure he's chomping at the bit to add that. 728 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 5: Ah yeah, I think I think after him on their team, 729 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 5: the second person has what like three two, it was 730 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 5: something low like that, like less than four or five. 731 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 5: So he's definitely making a big difference. And I know, 732 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 5: you know, as much as we've talked about how good 733 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: the old line is doing, someone like him is probably 734 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 5: looking at the fact that had there have been players 735 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 5: in and out up and down the line and just 736 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 5: saying like, Okay, I can take advantage of this. But 737 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 5: and I also was thinking about Logan, but it's been 738 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: hard for me to like look past his shortcomings as 739 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 5: an athlete, Like, yeah, when it comes to who's on 740 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 5: their defense, he brings a lot to the table. But 741 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 5: in terms of runners being able to do a lot 742 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 5: against them, and in terms of especially tight ends being 743 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 5: able to do a lot of against them, a lot 744 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 5: of that has had to do with ways in which 745 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 5: he's fallen short and just the fact that you know 746 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 5: both him and Pratt, it seems like they have issues 747 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 5: when it comes to just the directional game. They're not 748 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 5: going sideline to sideline very well. It's like it's like 749 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 5: if you can fake them out into going one way 750 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 5: and go the other way, they don't really seem to 751 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: to catch up or recover from that. So it's like, Yeah, 752 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: you want to call out people like Logan for helping, 753 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 5: but at the same time, it's kind of like he's 754 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: also one of the weaknesses. But no. I found the 755 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 5: stat on the Bengals defense that was interesting because it 756 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 5: doesn't seem to follow the narrative about them or even 757 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 5: like what I think we've seen, but it says the 758 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals are holding opponents to just three point eight 759 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 5: yards per carry on designed rushes between the tackles, the 760 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 5: second fewest in the league, so that's interesting. They're hitting 761 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 5: opposing rushers behind the line of scrimmage on forty nine 762 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 5: point three percent of such carries, leading to allowing zero 763 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 5: point five yards before contact per carry, and it looks 764 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: like Cowboys running backs have only gained zero point nine 765 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 5: yards before contact per carry on design rushes between the tackles. 766 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 5: So as far as our runners go, it could be 767 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 5: a more interesting matchup than we think. But I still 768 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 5: think they're propensity to miss tackles and just not really 769 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 5: have good balance in terms of figuring out how to 770 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 5: stop the run and watch the pass at the same time. 771 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 5: I think the Cowboys are still gonna use that to 772 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 5: their advantage. 773 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Trey Hendrickson, this defense goes as he goes, 774 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 3: kind of like a yeah for Cowboys, a Micah and 775 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 3: demo Like this defense goes as honestly as Michael goes. 776 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: And you look at the amount of pressure that they're 777 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: able to get on opposing quarterbacks. With Trey Hendrickson on 778 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: the field, it's about thirty four percent. With him off 779 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 3: the field, it's about twenty two percent. 780 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 4: So huge difference there. 781 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: We are gonna take our second break and we're gonna 782 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: have some fun later and third segment, have a little 783 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: game for y'all. 784 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: All right, we were back with more girl star voiceac talk. 785 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: After the break. 786 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 8: When you're on the field, you know what it takes 787 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 8: to lead your team and play with confidence. But that 788 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 8: confidence shouldn't just stop at game time. 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Who would y'all. 832 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: Consider a Star player outside of selamb offensively as of 833 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: this point of the season. 834 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 4: Or would y'all consider a. 835 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 7: Star a star. 836 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 5: You've got a couple of butting stars like ric o'dowdell 837 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 5: is definitely reaching that status. Cavante Turpin has done some 838 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 5: things that got him some attention. 839 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 6: I would say, I would say Ferg has star power 840 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 6: this year. And that's why I was I said what 841 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 6: I say, yes Shore when I said I hate this 842 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 6: season because I felt like Ferg was just trending. He's 843 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 6: just trending up, trending up, trended up, and I'm sure 844 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 6: he's gonna get back in the groove of things and probably. 845 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 7: Finish this season strong. 846 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 6: But when you talk about his development as a tight 847 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 6: end and starting to see him like the yack ability 848 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 6: there was, the swag he got, the attitude he played with, 849 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 6: that's a star like that's and again, and that's why 850 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 6: guys like Travis Kelce were, you know, speaking about him, 851 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 6: talking about him because they see see some. 852 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 7: Of his his star power. 853 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 6: So to me, I still believe that Jake Ferguson has 854 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 6: the ability to be a star. I hope that he 855 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 6: can be that same player coming back from some of 856 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 6: the injuries that he has had m. 857 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 4: Who else, Oh you artists, did you alady say? 858 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 8: Yeah? 859 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 5: I said Rico and Cavante Turbin because they've had a 860 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 5: lot of attention recently. If they stay on that current trajectory, 861 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 5: I could see them being considered star players. But I 862 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 5: really like what I used just said about Jake Ferguson. 863 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 5: I think I wasn't thinking of him because he's been out, 864 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 5: but yeah, when about it, like he's yeah when it 865 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 5: comes to both his play and the kind of attention 866 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 5: that he demands just in general when people think of 867 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 5: the Cowboys, he is one of the people, one of 868 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 5: the people that a lot of fans think of. 869 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 6: And the defense gets hyped too, Like you remember when 870 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 6: he was like when he's making us plays, the defense 871 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 6: is hype too, Like that's that they see, like, Oh, 872 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 6: this guy's something different. 873 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 3: Else do you think she said who she feels has 874 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: the potential to be a star. Who do you feel 875 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 3: outside of Jake could potentially. 876 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 4: Be a star? It's like a rising star that has 877 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 4: that edge offensive on the offense. 878 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 6: Cooper Beebe, He's not gonna he real hushed husher, you 879 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. But again, Coop of Bebe was 880 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 6: this was a projection pick. This guy was a guard, 881 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 6: fantastic at guard and moved him to center. Y'all remember 882 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 6: what them snaps looked like a training camp? 883 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 8: Yep. 884 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 7: He has built. 885 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 6: Built himself up, taking coaching, taking a mentorship, and you 886 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 6: see his play, like some of the things he was 887 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 6: doing pulling last week, y'all, Like the technique it takes 888 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 6: to be able to wall people off to climb, Like 889 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 6: the footwork that you are seeing that he is really. 890 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 7: Starting to understand the center position. 891 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 6: And I do think he is going to be one 892 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 6: of the better centers in the NFL, like if he 893 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 6: continues on this trajectory. 894 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna have a little fun now. 895 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's really fun, but we're gonna 896 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 3: hope it's fun. 897 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 4: All Right. It's called higher or lower, so I'm. 898 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: Gona give you guys a set, and i just want 899 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 3: to see if y'all know if it's gonna. 900 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 4: Be higher or lower straight like that? All right? 901 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 3: Bingals allowed higher or lower than five hundred yards of 902 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: offense versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. 903 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 7: Higher it was higher because they wasn't like in the forty. 904 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: Though it's five hundred twenty They had. 905 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 6: To put up ally to beat these folks, and it's crazy. 906 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 4: Forty four points insane? All right? 907 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has a higher or lower Oh my goodness, 908 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: I cannot tight what was I doing? Joe Burrow has 909 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 3: higher or lower than three thousand passing yards in twenty 910 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 3: twenty four so far? 911 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 5: Higher? 912 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 6: Yes, higher, because they've been having to he behind the 913 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 6: chunk that rock. 914 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 4: They can't run a. 915 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: Buy, sister, it's a good point three thousand, three hundred 916 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 3: and thirty seven passing yards? 917 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 4: Insane? All right? 918 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: The playoff percentage for the Cowboys? Is it higher or 919 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: lower than five percent as of right now? 920 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 5: You know, as of right now it's lower or last 921 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 5: time I checked it was lower. 922 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, it ain't nothing like three? Ain't it for four percent? 923 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 6: To? 924 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: Okay? 925 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: Four? 926 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 4: Right? 927 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: All right? 928 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 4: All right? 929 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 3: What about the Bengals? Is it higher or lower than 930 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 3: four percent? 931 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 7: It's probably they probably low to us. 932 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 5: I think theirs is lower because they have a worse 933 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 5: record than the Cowboys do. I know they're not mathematically 934 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 5: eliminated yet. It's not zero, it's two percent. 935 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: If they win, the chance goes up to four percent. 936 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 7: Good bye? 937 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 6: What you need? All right? 938 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: The Bengals. 939 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's not funny. 940 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: The Bengals have given up higher or lower than thirty 941 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 3: two points in the last six of their losses. Last 942 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 3: six of their loss they given up giving up I 943 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 3: know the last four. 944 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know they last four they've given up. So yeah, 945 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 7: it's probably. 946 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: Thirty four bye, all right. The Bengals are holding opponents. 947 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: To higher or lower than four yards per. 948 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: Carry on designed rushes between the tackles three point eight. 949 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 4: All right. 950 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 3: The Cowboys have higher or lower than eight fumbles this season, 951 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 3: like they forced them. 952 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 4: Or they fumbled the ball. 953 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 6: Cowboys higher because higher, because Cooper just be dropping that thing. 954 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: Higher, Higher, I'm gonna. 955 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 7: Say because Ricos had one. 956 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 4: A couple on. 957 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 5: Special teams as well, though. 958 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 7: Cooper and had a. 959 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 5: Z I can be wrong, but I think it's higher zillion. 960 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 7: Sometimes. Well, and again I know this is partially I 961 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 7: just talked about Cooper BB. 962 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 6: He still is getting better at his snaps, and it 963 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 6: is an adjustment to go from snapping the ball to 964 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 6: Dak to snapping it to Cooper rush. 965 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 7: It's different. 966 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 6: So I do think that, but they don't at least 967 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 6: once a game that ball just come to him and 968 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,959 Speaker 6: it just fall out of his hands. 969 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 2: I'm like Cooper scrip. 970 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 5: A literal grip, a literal one. 971 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 4: I beg of you. 972 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't heads and fumbles this season. Hopefully they ain't 973 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 3: got no more the rest of the season. 974 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 7: I ain't got no man. 975 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 5: I think that playoffs sat is a fun way to 976 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 5: build this game because it's like, whoever loses their playoff 977 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 5: hopes are literally over. Like I know, I know they're 978 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 5: both like on life support right now. 979 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 6: Can you imagine how Cincinnati feels with the way their 980 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,919 Speaker 6: offense is built, how they can play, and that their 981 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 6: defense is just talk about being unbalanced. 982 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 5: Can you imagine the tension in the locker roo? 983 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 6: Oh, I was looking at I was also looking at 984 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 6: like some of the guys they drafted, and like there 985 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 6: are some actual good draft picks. Like I'm sitting there like, oh, 986 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 6: you guys took McKinley Jackson, all, he's supposed to be 987 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 6: a good team. 988 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 7: You get bone off the ball. Then you look at 989 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 7: Miles Murphy. 990 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 6: I told them I told people during the draft, don't 991 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 6: do it. 992 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 4: But that goes to what Jess was saying yesterday. 993 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 3: Yesterday is they don't draft and develop. They're not taking 994 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 3: their time. 995 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're developing these guys. 996 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: That says a lot about the Cowboys organization. 997 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 4: How such a great job they do with that's all. 998 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: We got to shoot these guys, all right. 999 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 4: That's a wrap for the show for Asha Morrison Jazz. 1000 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 3: One day, I'm gonna call h So we'll see y'all 1001 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 3: back here tomorrow. 1002 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1003 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.