1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: And Katty and He Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Concerned parents of incoming college freshmen are adding. 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Narkhan to back to school lists this year, along with. 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Condoms and Plan B. 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: Wow, Condoms, Narkan and Plan B what Hunter Biden calls 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: a value meal. 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: Okay, later this hour, how about a little Marco Rubio 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: for you. He was on all the shows yesterday getting 11 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: the hell beat out of him, trying to explain Friday 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: and either you buy his explanation or you don't. And 13 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: then of course today, in case you weren't following the 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: news over the weekend, the biggest European leaders that exist 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: are going to be meeting at the White House with 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Trump and Zelinsky and Jade Vans is going to be 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: there yelling at Zilinsky or something. Who knows what, but 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: that is quite a meeting that's going on at the 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: White House today. 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: I wish Trump's golf buddy from Finland was gonna be 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: there because he's really got his ear, but I didn't 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: see him on the guest list. Maybe people are just 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: not mentioning him because he's kind of down the list. 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: I saw the list and he wasn't on there. And 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: Donald Tusco Poland I was hoping it was gonna be there. 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be there. But what's her name from 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Italy that I really like? The Italian prime minister. She's 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: a hard ass. She'll be there. 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, more on that to come. 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 4: We'll play you some Marco Rubio audio and see if 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: you like. Jack and Mark Halpern and others have been 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: appeased by his words more or less, and that the 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: deal is in the works. They're working on it. It's midstream. 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: You can't judge yet. 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: I'd say I've been talked down from complete disaster to 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: maybe fifty to fifty. I'm I'm on the side of 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: this was a good thing that happened on Friday. Yeah, 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: give it a piece like Hitler just it's fine. They 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: can live in it anyway. 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 4: I thought we'd take a look more close to home 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: for a couple of things. Who's paying the tariffs at 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: this point, not consumers mostly, But it's interesting some of 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: those the economic numbers that were released at the end 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: of last week you get the like the number one number, 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: but some of the numbers behind the numbers are really interesting. 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: The producer price index rose almost one percent in the 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: month and three point three percent over the last year. 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 4: Consumer price data was much smaller. It implied that households 49 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: were not experiencing tariff induced price increases except in a 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: few services like medical care. But the producer price index 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: numbers tell us this partly because companies are paying higher 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: prices but have not passed them on to consumers yet. 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: And is that because they're hoping this tariff thing will 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: go away and they and they don't have to. 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: That's part of it. 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: Plus they planned because they know it was telegraphed, so 57 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: they moved up lots and lots of imports and filled 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: the warehouses so their costs would be lower. But eventually 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: that stuff is going to run out. Producer price daddic 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: gets worse the closer you look. Goods and services both 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: experienced substantial inflation seven percent. That's confusing, but goods and 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: services related to business investment in particular becoming pricier, with 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: the cost of manufacturing equipment rising almost half a percent 64 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: in one month and related services four and a half 65 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: percent in a month, So the birds of the tariffs have. 66 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: Not yet come home to roost. 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: Anybody tells you what the effect is going to be 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: on consumers doesn't know what they're talking about. Probably nobody's sure, 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: so we'll just have to wait and see. Speaking of consumers, 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: I thought this is so interesting. We talked about this 71 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: once or twice through the years. Nobody's buying homes, nobody's 72 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 4: switching jobs, and nobody moves anymore. It used to be 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 4: the US, globally speaking, was like world famous for mobility. 74 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: We were the movinist people on earth. Wherever the opportunity was, 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: Americans would go, and most Americans moved every year to 76 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: pursue opportunities. Yeah, we talked about this in the early 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: twentieth century. Like all of those old timey pictures you've 78 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: seen of wagons loaded up to the sky with goods 79 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: in old timey urban highways or you know, streets and cities. 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: That was moving Day, which was a single day traditionally 81 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: in the springtime, where Americans would up and move. I 82 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: got to rEFInd that article. It was so interesting. But 83 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 4: a number of different factors, including just cultural norms. Folks 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: no longer move they don't chase from city to city, 85 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 4: state to state. US companies were often quicker to hire 86 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: and fire than employers and other parts of the world, 87 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: but that has stalled as well. Others slapped with golden handcuffs. 88 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: They have homes when mortgage rates are lower, have stable 89 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: white collar jobs, and don't want to leave them. Plus, 90 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: young people who don't land good jobs soon after college 91 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: usually just stay where they are waiting and never really 92 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: recover from those years of diminished turnings. 93 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't get that. 94 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: I get if you're I get if you're making a 95 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: decent living, like not great, but okay, and you decide 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to move because family situations, friends, all 97 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. That's a lifestyle choice. But if 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: you're twenty two and you ain't got nothing going on, 99 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: I'd go wherever you can find a good job. 100 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: But that's that's just me one hundred percent. Partly because 101 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: it's an adventure. It's fun. I've done it many times times. 102 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: It's cool. 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: You ought to do it. 104 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: It's also hard and uh yeah, and you get to 105 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: a new town and you don't know anybody. 106 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it has it's hard and about oh 107 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: whoa it's better in your mom's basement. I've done it 108 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: fifty times. 109 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, tough love, Jack, We need to slapping. Not sure, 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: Mamby Bamby's sympathy. So, uh, here's some stats for you. 111 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: Now. You got to go back to the. 112 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: Line like nineteen tens and twenties to have like those 113 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: mass movings that I was talking about every year. But 114 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: in the fifties and sixties, twenty percent of Americans would 115 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: move typically every year. 116 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: One out of five every would move, you know, every year. 117 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: My family is one of them. 118 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: Part of the slowing is that the US population is aged, 119 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 4: and so we're less likely to move as we age. 120 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: But oh and two household earners. That gets a little 121 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: more complicated too. Sure we both gotta yeah, find your job. 122 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: Sure, right, And this isn't a you know, this is 123 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: a bad thing and people should be condemned for it. 124 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it might be, but it's okay. 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: It's just kind of an observation a change. So twenty 126 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 4: percent in the fifties and sixties, by twenty nineteen, the 127 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: year before COVID, it was nine point eight percent of Americans, 128 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: so a little less than half. Then you got the 129 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: COVID surge that was brief, but then in twenty twenty three, 130 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: only seven point eight percent of Americans moved, the lowest 131 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: rate logs since the US Census started records in nineteen 132 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: forty eight, and that number seems to have held steady 133 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. 134 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: And I come from a move in family. My dad 135 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: moved a lot. 136 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I lived a bunch of different places as a kid, 137 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: and then I've moved to tons, tons of times as 138 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: an adult. 139 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: So I just I'm kind of built that way. 140 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: So it's always interesting to me when I run into 141 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: people that you know, I'm sixth generation this or whatever. 142 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, my I've been in the same area and 143 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: all your brothers and sisters, may everybody live there, And 144 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I can see the tremendous advantage of that. 145 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: Family wise, it would be awesome. 146 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Man, your kids have you have built in babysitters, Your 147 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: kids have all the cousins, nants and uncles by it. 148 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: That's super cool. But oh yeah, as far as having 149 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: an opportunity job. 150 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: Wise, I'm a big fan of going where they're hiring. 151 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 152 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, so moving along to another Oh that's right, 153 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: I knew I had one more thought it's and they 154 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: profile in this piece in the Wall Street Journal a 155 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: lot of young families that are trying to like find 156 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: a bigger house because they're having kids or what have you. 157 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: And just the artificially low rates of covids and the 158 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: skyrocketing housing prices, just everybody's stuck. Well, we've talked about 159 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: that plenty of times, and the only thing that will 160 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: undo that is time. Final story, consumer oriented, Jack, you 161 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: love this one. France, So enlightened, so cultured France. They're sweltering, 162 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 4: sweltering under a heat wave this week, but the leadership 163 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: and climate schools are absolutely refusing to drop any of 164 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: their climate neutrality goals for whatever year in the future 165 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: they're talking about. And so the French government has gone hardcore, 166 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: suggesting energy sobriety, meaning don't use air conditioning. Air Conditioning 167 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: should be used only those who are very sensitive to heat, 168 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: elderly people who can't open the window at night, et cetera. 169 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: The rest of us should opt for a fan draw 170 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: the blinds, limit heat emissions from ovens, and if you 171 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: have to use AC, it has to be seventy eight 172 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: degrees or higher and only one room of your house. 173 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm tempted to tell this story. What would you say, Michael, If. 174 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: It makes cha grin, leave it in, I will be 175 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: I got it. Advice, I have to be vague. You're 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna be wanting more details on this. 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We ask these people every week. 231 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: They say no, it took eight years and a petition to. 232 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: Get Obama on. 233 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 5: And these are people all people I voted for. 234 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: Think about that. 235 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 5: They're afraid to come on the show of a guy 236 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 5: who voted for them. 237 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: They Republicans. 238 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 5: They show up when they do, they take their beating 239 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 5: like a man. 240 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: Bill Maher on Friday night. 241 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: He'd been talking prior to that about a story we 242 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: talked about the Democrat congressman who had daughters in sports 243 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: and said he didn't want the UH the daughters to 244 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: get beat up on the field, to play by boys 245 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: masquerading his girls, cause playing his girls, which some for 246 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: some reasons, some really mentally disturbed people take seriously and 247 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 4: think you can actually be the other sex. 248 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it is. 249 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: It's borderline psychotic anyway, for defending girls' sports, this Democratic 250 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: congressman was called a Nazi by by a bunch of 251 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: you know, radical leftists, and was thinking, he's you know, 252 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 4: he's got to be thinking, man, am I in the 253 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: right political party? Anyway, mar went on, I would love to. 254 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 5: Have AOC on the show and Mondamie and Elizabeth Warrenck, 255 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: but I can't subpoena the guests, and I can't fix that. 256 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: What the Democrats are scared of more than anything else, 257 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously besides Gluten. 258 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: Is being prime. I'm married from the far left. 259 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 5: Even though most Democrats are not far left, they're mild, 260 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 5: mattered and moderate, at least at my bath house. If 261 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: there is one practical thing that Democrats can do right 262 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 5: now that would help them regain power, inspire your moderates 263 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: to vote in the primaries. 264 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: Get that base excited. You have the numbers. 265 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: After Congressman Moulton made his comment about his daughter not 266 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: getting run over. He added, but as a Democrat, I'm 267 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: supposed to be afraid to say that. Well, then change 268 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: what you're supposed to. 269 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: Be afraid of. 270 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well said I'm struck by the odd situation where 271 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: I mean, for instance, in Iowa, they've got a governor's 272 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: race coming out up in the Incomban is not running 273 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: on the Republican side, and so it's, you know, it's 274 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: a fairly wide open race and one of the leading 275 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: Democrats who's going for the job is a gun and 276 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: hunting enthusiast, proudly Christian. I'm trying to remember all the 277 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: different stances he had, very very Midwestern conservative, regular guy 278 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: who's running is Democrat, and the Republican Party's like, yeah, 279 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: this guy's a threat. He's a really credible candidate. He's 280 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: practically one of us. I mean, blah blah blah. 281 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: I'd love to see more of that. 282 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly in what sense he's a Democrat now, 283 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: except that it's a brand and he perceives that there's 284 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: a better opening for him with that logo on his. 285 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, racing suit than the other one. 286 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: Even though he's espousing beliefs that are utterly foreign to 287 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: so much of the Democratic Party right now. So I 288 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: don't what does it mean to say he's a Democrat. 289 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly. Again, I just think it's a 290 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: branding thing. So can't wait for the next segment. A 291 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: big new study has some bad news and good news 292 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: for us. The good news is bigger than the bad news. 293 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: The bad news is that the college kids have absolutely 294 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: been bullied into agreeing with the neo Marxist postmodern party line, 295 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: and they do in huge numbers. The good news is 296 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: they don't mean it. They had to be bullied, but 297 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: they don't believe nearly in as big as numbers as 298 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: you might imagine what you think they do. So that's 299 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: really interesting. Can't wait to get to it. And it 300 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: relates directly to this story we were talking about last week. 301 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: I think it was last late in the show, and 302 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: I really wanted to get it on for you good folks. 303 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: The idea of preference falsification and then a preference cascade. 304 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: And this fella what is his name? It's a really 305 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: good piece. Oh that's right, Glenn Harlan Reynolds. He's a 306 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: professor law at the University of Tennessee. He's writing about 307 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: the immigration crisis in Britain and how the British government 308 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: has passed all sorts of draconian laws that would never 309 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: ever pass muster in this country because of the First Amendment. 310 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: But these laws that say you can't cause anybody discomfort 311 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: or or or issue speech that might incite race hatred, 312 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: it's all very very vague, and that's caused is something 313 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: called preference falsification, where it looks like everybody agrees with 314 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: for instance, the government stands because they've been made to 315 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: pretend to agree with that, but they don't. But you're 316 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 4: looking around and you're saying, I think this is madness, 317 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: and you know, rampant immigration from Somalia is a threat 318 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 4: to our way of life and our culture at all. 319 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: But I don't see anybody disagreeing with me. So I 320 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: guess I'm in a small minority. But that's because of 321 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: preference falsification. And then when people fight back against it 322 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 4: and say, you know what, I'm going to say what 323 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 4: I believe, whether I get in trouble or not, all 324 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: of a sudden everybody realizes, wait a minute, everybody around 325 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 4: me is believed what I believed all along. And that's 326 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: when you get what's called a preference cascade and people 327 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: are more open about it. Are we on the cusp 328 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 4: of a preference cascade and our universities could be stay 329 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: with us, Armstrong and getty. 330 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: According to a new study, twelve percent of Americans fine 331 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: Sadney Sweeney's American Eagle ad offensive. The other eighty eight 332 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: percent are able to fit in jeans. 333 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: Wow wow, Gottfeld, the mean boy in high school. So, 334 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 4: speaking of attitudes were supposed to hold you remember when 335 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: we were supposed to take seriously for about ninety seconds, 336 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: the idea that, oh, no good jeans, jeans, blue jeans, 337 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: jeans with blue eyes. But the white supremacy, but the eugenics. 338 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: These people, oh my gosh, they're so nuts. 339 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: And here's the key. 340 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 4: So few people actually agree with them. So we're talking 341 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: last segment about preference falsification, and I'll describe to you 342 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 4: exactly what it is. This is a great description from 343 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 4: Glenn Reynolds, who's a professor of law at University of Tennessee, 344 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 4: one of those southern universities where people are flocking now 345 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: because everybody realizes, oh, they like teach you stuff. There, 346 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: and don't just indoctrinate you into being a good Marxist 347 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: like the Ivy League. Anyway, So here's this description of 348 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: a preference falsification. It's a move usually practiced by authoritarian regimes, 349 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: but now democracies are catching on to it. The trick 350 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: is you make citizens pretend that they believe what the 351 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: government says, or what. 352 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: The powers that be say. 353 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: He's talking about immigration in Britain, and so the government 354 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 4: is the correct target. We're talking about education, so it's 355 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 4: more the administration, the professors and stuff. But anyway, the 356 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 4: trick is they make citizens pre tend they believe what 357 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: the administration says and fake their approval of what it does. 358 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 4: You promote marches and demonstrations and speech in favor of 359 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 4: the preferred positions, and you severely punish marches and demonstrations 360 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 4: and speech that oppose those favored positions. You give excuses 361 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: like stopping you know, racism or fighting hate speech for 362 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 4: shutting down any opposition. You may even have informers that 363 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: ferret out wrong think and report it to the authorities 364 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 4: or to employers or to third parties who will engage 365 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: in extra legal harassment if you do it. 366 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: Right. 367 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: You can have upward of ninety percent of your population 368 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: hating you and your policies, but doing. 369 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: And saying nothing about them. 370 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: Because everyone in the ninety percent thinks they're part of 371 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: a tiny minority, resistance will seem futile. This works until 372 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 4: it doesn't. The problem with preference falsification is that sooner 373 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: or later, some avenor development can make people realize that 374 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 4: what they've been told as popular is in fact very unpopular. 375 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: When this happens, this Duke University scholar Timika Ran writes 376 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 4: in his book Private Truth's Public Lives, the result is 377 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: a preference cascade. Let's when a large swath of the 378 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: population realizes their dissionent views are in fact widely held. 379 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: They become less afraid of the government or the administration, 380 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: or the professors or the media, and less hesitant about 381 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 4: sharing their true sentiments. And then everybody realizes, all of 382 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: a sudden, oh my gosh, not only have I not 383 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 4: been a designing minority all the way, all the time, 384 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: I've been in the strong majority. 385 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: And by the way, we're right. 386 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: And my prayer is that this is going to happen 387 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: at some point in the American educational system. Although my gosh, 388 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: They've got the teachers, they got the faculty, they got 389 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: the administration, and they're bullying the. 390 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: Kids to wit. 391 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: Really interesting Peace in the Hill by a couple of guys, 392 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: the researchers Forrest Drahm and Kevin Waldman, on today's colleg campuses. 393 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 4: Students are not maturing, they're managing. Beneath the facade of 394 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 4: progressive slogans and institutional virtue signaling lies a quiet psychological 395 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 4: crisis driven by the demands of ideological conformity. I first 396 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: read the right upon this from an opinion writer in 397 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal. I'm very pleased to see this 398 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: as in The Hill, which is a very mainstream slash 399 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: left leaning, because you know, their readership is people who 400 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: work in Washington, d c. Generally in government or lobbyists 401 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: and on who depend on government, and that crowd tends 402 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: to be left leaning. 403 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Obviously they like more big government. 404 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 4: So the fact that this is being published in the 405 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: Hill and has gotten a bit of attention is very encouraging. 406 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: Anyway. So here's the story. Between twenty twenty three and. 407 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five, these guys conducted about fifteen hundred confidential 408 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: interviews with undergrads at a couple of universities, Northwestern and 409 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 4: University of Michigan. We were not studying politics, We were 410 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: studying development. Our question was clinical, not political. Quote, what 411 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: happens to identity formation? Which is part of becoming an adult? 412 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: Who am I? What do I believe? Right? 413 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: What happens to identity formation when belief is replaced by 414 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 4: adherents to orthodoxy instead of painstakingly trying to understand the 415 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: world and coming to a set of beliefs, instead you're 416 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: just told you need to adhere to this point of view. 417 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: What happens to identity formation? 418 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: We asked, have you ever pretended to hold more progressive 419 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 4: views than you truly endorse to succeed socially or academically? 420 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: You want to know what percentage said? Yes? Eighty eight percent. 421 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 4: Eighty eight percent said they pretended to hold more progressive 422 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: views than they truly endorse to succeed socially or academically. 423 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: These students were not cynical, but adaptive. In a campus 424 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: environment where grades, leadership and peer belonging often hinge on 425 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 4: fluency in performative morality, young adults quickly learn to rehearse 426 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: what is safe. The result is not conviction or beliefs, 427 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: but compliance, and beneath that compliance, something vital is lost. 428 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 4: Quoting now from the authors, late adolescents in early adulthood 429 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 4: represent a narrow and non replicable developmental window. It's during 430 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: this stage that individuals begin the lifelong work of integrating 431 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: personal experiences with inherited values, forming the foundations of moral reasoning, 432 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: internal coherence, and emotional resilience. Oh my gosh, emotional resilience toughness. 433 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: When belief is prescriptive, meaning you're told what to believe, 434 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: and ideological divergence or disagreement is treated as social risk, 435 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: that integrative process stalls, rather than forging a durable sense 436 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 4: of self. Through trial, error and reflection, students learn to 437 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 4: compartmentalize publicly they can form privately. They question often in isolation. 438 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: Oh but remember what we were just talking about. With 439 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 4: a preference falsification and preference cascade, they only think they're 440 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: in isolation. 441 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: Well, I guess they are in isolation. 442 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 4: But sows everybody around them thinking the same things. 443 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: So insidious. 444 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: This split between outer presentation and inner conviction not only 445 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 4: fragments identity but arrests its development, and the dissonance shows 446 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 4: up everywhere. Seventy eight percent of the students told us 447 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 4: they self censor on their beliefs surrounding gender identity. Seventy 448 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: eight percent believe all that gender pending madness is madness, 449 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: but they got to be quiet. Seventy two percent do 450 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: that on politics in general. Sixty eight percent on family values. 451 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a lot smaller number than the seventy 452 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: eight percent that are they're soft pedaling their views on 453 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 4: gender bending manners, But sixty eight percent on just general 454 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 4: family values are soft pedaling their views. Our college students 455 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 4: are so much more conservative and sane than you think 456 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 4: they are, partly because who gets amplified and applauded and publicized. 457 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: They're radical, lefty lunatic front. The normy kids just they 458 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 4: they're afraid, so they're quiet, and they certainly don't make 459 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 4: any noise, and if they do, they're they're punished or 460 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 4: ignored anyway. More than eighty percent so they had submitted 461 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 4: class work that misrepresented their views in order to align 462 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 4: with professors. For many, this has become second nature, an 463 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: instinct for academic and professional self preservation. Listen, maybe it 464 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 4: was because I was clueless or stubborn or something as 465 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 4: a youngster. But when I was in school and I 466 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: was in a political science, economics, pre law program that 467 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: had lots and lots and lots of the sort of 468 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 4: stuff we're talking about in it, I never once misrepresented 469 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: my view in order to align with a professor. Maybe 470 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: I didn't have a you at that point, but that's terrible. 471 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: To test the gap between expression and belief, we used 472 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 4: gender discourse, a contentious topic, both highly visible and ideological, 473 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: ideologically loaded, right the authors In public, students were echoed, 474 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. In public, students echoed expected progressive narratives. In private, however, 475 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 4: their views were more complex. Eighty seven percent identified as 476 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 4: exclusively heterosexual eighty seven percent and supported a binary model 477 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: of gender. There's men and there's women, period. That's eighty 478 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 4: seven percent. Nine percent expressed partial openness to gender fluidity. 479 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: Seven percent embraced the idea of gender as a broad spectrum. 480 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: And most of these belong to activist circles. Practically nobody 481 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 4: believed there's fifty eight genders and you get to choose 482 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 4: what you are. Practically nobody seven percent. How different is 483 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: this from the perception we've all formed of what college 484 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: kids actually think because they've been psychologically battered into conformity. 485 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: I am not a violent man, but I swear to God, 486 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: I'd like to take a bulldozer to a lot of 487 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: our college campuses. Metaphorically, of course. Perhaps most telling, seventy 488 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 4: seven percent, and these are college kids said they disagreed 489 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: with the idea that gender identity should override biological sex 490 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: in domains such as sports, healthcare, or public data, but 491 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: would never voice that disagreement allowed. So of the eighty 492 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: seven percent that say, no, there's dudes and there's gals, 493 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: that's it eighty seven percent. All but ten percent of 494 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: those said I would never say that out loud. Holy crap. 495 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: These poor kids are bullied. It's Stockholm syndrome. They're terrified 496 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: to speak their minds II Karama. Thirty eight percent described 497 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: themselves as morally confused, uncertain whether honesty was still ethical, 498 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: if it meant exclusion, whatever that means. Authenticity, once considered 499 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: a good thing for all of us, psychologically, has become 500 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: a social liability, and this fragmentation does not end at 501 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 4: the classroom door. Seventy three percent of students reported mistrust 502 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: in conversations about these values with close friends. They were 503 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: afraid to even talk to their friends. 504 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: That's that preference falsification. That's its direct fruit. 505 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: They're sure they're friends, excuse me disagree with them, even 506 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: though eighty seven percent agree with them, They're terrified to 507 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: say anything out loud. This is not simply peer pressure. 508 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: It is identity regulation at scale. Being institutionalized, universities often 509 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 4: justified these dynamics in the name of inclusion, But inclusion 510 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: that demands dishonesty is not ensuring psychological safety. It is 511 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: sanctioning self abandonment. In attempting to engineer moral unity, higher 512 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: education is mistaken consensus for growth and compliance for care, 513 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: and the students know it's wrong. When they're given permission 514 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: to speak freely. Many describe the experience of participating is 515 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: not only liberating but clarifying. For students trained to perform 516 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: the act of telling the truth felt radical. Finally, if 517 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 4: higher education is to fulfill its promise as a site 518 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: of intellectual and moral development, it must relearn the difference 519 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: between support and supervision. It must recenter truth, not consensus, 520 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 4: as its animating value, and it must give back to 521 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: students what has been taken from them, the right to 522 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: believe in the space to become. I don't know how 523 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: exactly you can join this fight. Maybe it's by supporting 524 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 4: organizations or I don't know, podcasts, radio shows that are 525 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 4: fighting the fight. But man, we've got to win this 526 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: for the youngsters. They are being mentally and intellectually tortured 527 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 4: and bullied by these monsters, these monsters in their ivory towers, 528 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: and it's got to stop. 529 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: End of screed. Stay with us. 530 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 6: So in order for there to be a piece deal, 531 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 6: this is just a fact. We may not like it, 532 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 6: it may not be pleasant, it may be distasteful, but 533 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 6: in order for there to be an end of the war, 534 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 6: there are things Russia wants that it cannot get, and 535 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 6: there are things Ukraine wants that it's not going to get. 536 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: Both sides are going to have to give up. 537 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 6: Something in order to get to the table in order 538 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 6: to make this happen. That's just the way it is. 539 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 6: And I mean, as soon as we accept that that's 540 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 6: the reality. 541 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: I think it's smart time capitulation. Neville Chamberlain. 542 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: I think Mark went on, I think Marco went on 543 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: five shows yesterday. 544 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: Man, that would be a long day. 545 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: And whitcoff on two. More so seven shows covered by 546 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: the Trump administration explaining what's the right word, it's not prejudicial, 547 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: what's going on and what happened on Friday. So we'll 548 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: get into that more in an hour three what Marco 549 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: had to say, and you'll either agree with or you won't. 550 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: But here's the schedule for day. 551 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: And this is historic. This has never happened in world 552 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: history where you've had this many European leaders meeting at 553 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: the White House at one time. This has just never 554 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: ever happened again before. Now, part of it has travel 555 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: made it impossible up until. 556 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: Seventies eighties, but still it's never happened. 557 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: All these different European leaders are going to arrive at 558 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: the White House at noon today, White House time, south Portico, 559 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: White House, press pool, TV crew, still photographers only people 560 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: will be shouting questions. Of course, whether Trump answers any 561 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: or not is always completely up to him. But you 562 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: got macrona France, you got Starmer of Great Britain, you 563 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: got Mertz of Germany, you got what's her name from 564 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: Italy who is a testee buster herself and big on 565 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: supporting Ukraine. But anyway, all these world leaders are going 566 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: to be here. Then the President is participating in a 567 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: bilateral meeting in the Oval Office with President Zelensky of Ukraine. 568 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: That's just the President and Zelensky. The European leaders aren't 569 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: gonna be in there. 570 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: Huh. 571 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: So they're all getting there, but they ain't gonna be 572 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: in the meeting with Zolensky. It's gonna be Trump and 573 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: jade E Vance. 574 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: No, you don't have the cards. Have you ever said 575 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 2: thank you? Jade Vance will be there. Uh So, see 576 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: how that goes. 577 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: There is reporting that Zelensky's wearing a suit jacket without 578 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: a tie as opposed to his military garb. 579 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Since do you even own a suit? Became a thing? 580 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: Lest o, my completely irrelevant. People are dying. 581 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: It is completely irrelevant. But so that was news to 582 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: me that the Trump and Zelensky thing. I mean, so 583 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: all that talk about the European leaders are going there 584 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: to help Zelensky if he gets attacked, they ain't gonna 585 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: do any good when it's Trump, JD and Zelensky alone 586 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office. 587 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, although obviously this strategy is for all of the 588 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: euro leaders to blunt any idea that Zolensky's being unreasonable 589 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 4: when he says Putin can't be trusted. They are going 590 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: to stand up one after the other and say everything 591 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: he says is lies. 592 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: Right a half to remember that right after the bilateral meeting, 593 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: the President meets all the European leaders, and they're having 594 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: a meeting, a multilateral meeting with European leaders at three, 595 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: so a full two hours later. So, man, there's some 596 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: jazzy stuff that could happen today news wise. I mean, 597 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: it's I hope it doesn't go off the rails because 598 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: that wouldn't serve anybody. But it certainly the possibility exists 599 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: at a pretty high level for things to go off 600 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: the rails. 601 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: Don't you think? Yes? 602 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I would say that there could be enormous 603 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: news made today in a number of different directions. 604 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned it last week. 605 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 4: Trump has the reputation for being swayed by the last 606 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: person he talks to, and obviously the Euros plus Zelensky 607 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 4: are are anxious for that to happen, and it could 608 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 4: be they will sway him. 609 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: I just I have no idea which way this thing goes. 610 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't either. I think we'll have a much clearer 611 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: idea what Friday was all about after today. 612 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 613 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing that's guaranteed, the idea that news won't 614 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: be made. Yeah, there will be plenty of news made today. 615 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: And if you missed a segment or an hour of this show, 616 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand 617 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty