Speaker 1: Recently, we posted on Instagram an article from an old
Speaker 1: teen magazine story about writer, and it says writer one
Speaker 1: hundred percent original, and then.
Speaker 2: Journal, I learned so much about you I did.
Speaker 1: Not know right now there's a beautiful picture of Writer's face,
Speaker 1: and then above it it says centerfold on page forty six.
Speaker 3: Okay, but here's the article. When it comes to summing
Speaker 3: up writer strong.
Speaker 1: He fits into the the See that's the thing. He
Speaker 1: doesn't fit into any category. Oh yeah, ask Writer the
Speaker 1: quality he likes best about himself, and he'll answer not
Speaker 1: fitting into a stare type is probably what I'm happiest about.
Speaker 1: Knowing himself well. Could also be one of Writer's appealing qualities,
Speaker 1: because it's true. Writer definitely doesn't fit into any particular
Speaker 1: type or warrant a neat little label. He's no cookie
Speaker 1: cutter guy who tries to look like everyone else and
Speaker 1: say the same things everyone else does. Writer is truly
Speaker 1: an individual, which is probably one of the qualities you
Speaker 1: like best about him too. For starters, writer has a
Speaker 1: unique name. How many writers do you know.
Speaker 2: That you did that? You chose that, You chose it
Speaker 2: your own category. Man, you chose your name. God so far.
Speaker 4: All we had is one quote where they asked me,
Speaker 4: what do you like about yourself? Right, and I said,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't fit into a category. That's
Speaker 4: what they ran with this whole article.
Speaker 1: Yep, and not so ordinary looks. He has that kind
Speaker 1: of boy nex door but with an edge thing going on.
Speaker 3: But his way of viewing the world.
Speaker 1: Is what really makes him stand out from the masses.
Speaker 1: Take writer's taste in music. Like a lot of fourteen
Speaker 1: year old guys, writer loves rap, whoa do at all?
Speaker 4: He does it all now literally never in my life
Speaker 4: have I loved rap Like I went to one phase
Speaker 4: at like twelve where I tried because everybody was getting
Speaker 4: into it and like just like no, not for me.
Speaker 2: So funny okay.
Speaker 1: But but at the same time, he's also really into classical.
Speaker 3: So for instance, when we actually tell us never like.
Speaker 2: Really not into it, No, no, you will you mind it.
Speaker 5: We went through a phase on boy too, worked.
Speaker 4: Into instrumental music in different periods, but yeah, not like oh,
Speaker 4: you know, a big chopin guy never chopping.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for instance, when we asked him to tell us
Speaker 1: his favorite song, he picked no not the Latest by
Speaker 1: Snoop Doggie Dog No, but a little baroque number called
Speaker 1: Cannon in D which yeah you.
Speaker 2: Love you did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a CD called Canon and D Variation
Speaker 4: and it was just did you give it?
Speaker 2: I gave it to you. It was that song like
Speaker 2: nine different ways. It was so cool that. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it was because of you.
Speaker 4: I knew.
Speaker 2: I thought it was because of you.
Speaker 4: I had this CD and it had just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: like a bunch of versions and they were cool because
Speaker 4: like some of them were like modern synthy, some of
Speaker 4: them were like really classical, and you could I think
Speaker 4: I just loved the idea of different versions of something.
Speaker 2: I always loved. This one was on like a harpsichord. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was cool.
Speaker 4: It was a good mind that. But I definitely had
Speaker 4: my favorite version. It was tracked two.
Speaker 5: Was that the classical one like that? It was almost
Speaker 5: like the Ferrest Bueler.
Speaker 2: No, there was one.
Speaker 4: It was like I think it had like a really
Speaker 4: it had like a more it was it had like
Speaker 4: an electronic music background, like there was a like I
Speaker 4: don't know, I'm gonna find this. It was my favorite
Speaker 4: track was either two or three on that CD. That's right, Well,
Speaker 4: it was a great song. If it ain't broke, don't
Speaker 4: fix it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: One thing writer doesn't like is listening to music just
Speaker 1: because everybody else says it's which is one reason you
Speaker 1: won't find Counting Crows on his CD.
Speaker 2: They picked.
Speaker 4: I know, it's so weird, like they must have just
Speaker 4: not talked to me and just decided to pick whoever
Speaker 4: was the top of the charts at that week or whatever.
Speaker 4: But they literally and then like that, I like wrap
Speaker 4: and then it's yeah, it's it's you. You wonder if
Speaker 4: this was put do you remember doing any of this
Speaker 4: interview or was it just.
Speaker 2: There's not an interview here.
Speaker 5: They pulled a quote like that's what I mean. So,
Speaker 5: but they didn't call you for this to say.
Speaker 4: Like, like I said, I used to do interviews with
Speaker 4: these these magazines.
Speaker 2: The first two seasons a boy, I.
Speaker 4: Did a bunch of these interviews, and they would sit
Speaker 4: with me, or they would stop me at events with
Speaker 4: a tape recorder and ask me like five questions really quick,
Speaker 4: and I just answer them.
Speaker 2: Or we do photo.
Speaker 4: Shoots and then they'd be like, hey, could you go
Speaker 4: talk to so and so in the corner And I
Speaker 4: wouldn't realize even that it was like an interview, but
Speaker 4: they'd be recording it and then like they'd write ten
Speaker 4: articles out of one interview.
Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't even I just don't know.
Speaker 4: Like the it's so weird to think about, what is
Speaker 4: the point of these these articles? Are these magazines? Right,
Speaker 4: It's like, who are they? It's like the it's catering
Speaker 4: to teenage girls.
Speaker 2: Well, this is social media. This is ninety social media.
Speaker 2: That's all. This is get to know you.
Speaker 5: It's the stuff that other people now put up themselves,
Speaker 5: like their favorite playlist and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But we weren't doing that back in the day.
Speaker 1: So this is just i'd like your Twitter page the
Speaker 1: end of it, which says his willingness to make like
Speaker 1: a full on goofball in public men quote, I'm constantly
Speaker 1: pretending to bang into doors and making people think I
Speaker 1: hurt myself my friends.
Speaker 4: I still haven't desire to do that every time I
Speaker 4: open a door in front of somebody. Like, right, there's
Speaker 4: a part of me that we're so used to doing.
Speaker 4: The face slam trips. Yeah, yeah, you did it really
Speaker 4: well though, you were really good.
Speaker 2: Once in a while.
Speaker 1: All this individuality makes writer one strafty bright guy strafty
Speaker 1: bright being writer's own what else but unique word meaning
Speaker 1: cool the end?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: It's similar to social media. Yeah, so interesting. I had
Speaker 4: no idea what I was getting into when I talked
Speaker 4: to those those no you know, like Ben just never
Speaker 4: did any of them, right, like he never did a
Speaker 4: single one and so never he.
Speaker 2: Didn't did he was he? Ever?
Speaker 4: Was? His parents said no, and I guess they had
Speaker 4: gone through it with Fred maybe to a certain degree,
Speaker 4: or just decided that it wasn't classy enough like that
Speaker 4: there was.
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that you're right, he never did these.
Speaker 4: Didn't know whereas like the three of us were like
Speaker 4: who wants to interview us? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, who cares? Because we just were like this is
Speaker 2: fun and this is cool. This is what being an actor.
Speaker 4: Is until I was like fifteen or sixteen, and then
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if this is.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do these.
Speaker 5: Well, you you also went to the next level though,
Speaker 5: you that you were one of the one of the
Speaker 5: Tiger Beat kids that literally like a Jonathan Taylor Thomas
Speaker 5: where you then.
Speaker 2: Go to another level. But sure, but still.
Speaker 5: I mean, you were probably one of the top two
Speaker 5: or three for couple of years, I would imagine, so
Speaker 5: that's was a whole different thing.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't it. You know, there's so not a
Speaker 2: good thing. Like it was not good for your acting,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: If anything, it diminished your standing within the industry as
Speaker 4: an actual actor because it was like, oh, you are
Speaker 4: ten essentially to a male like equivalent to a male model.
Speaker 4: Like it's like, oh, you you're appealing to this side
Speaker 4: of your career as opposed to you know, any sort
Speaker 4: of artistic or expressive Uh. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, a little bit of a mummer.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel,
Speaker 3: I'm Roger Strong, and I'm will Fredell.
Speaker 1: Today we are recapping season four, episode fifteen, Chick Like Me.
Speaker 1: I believe We've made it here. It originally air January
Speaker 1: thirty first, nineteen ninety seven. The synopsis in order to
Speaker 1: get a better understanding of how girls think, Corey Intopanga
Speaker 1: disguise Sean as a girl and set him up on
Speaker 1: a date. Also, Eric teaches a coworker how to attract
Speaker 1: a man. It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It was
Speaker 1: written by Steven Hibbert, and did you guys have any
Speaker 1: overall thoughts before I jump into our guest star cast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've always known that this was a
Speaker 4: pretty legendary episode. You know, it's infamous for obviously the
Speaker 4: big set piece, but I always remembered it as a
Speaker 4: very well written episode, and sure enough it still struck
Speaker 4: me as perfectly structured, incredibly well written, funny.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. I think this is
Speaker 2: top five Boy Meets World episode for me.
Speaker 3: I said the same thing last night.
Speaker 1: I think this is in my top five favorite Boy
Speaker 1: Meets World episodes. I think it's it has all the
Speaker 1: you know, exactly what we've talked about, with the right balance,
Speaker 1: the right balance between really funny, laugh out loud moments
Speaker 1: and yet a very poignant, relevant, great great topic.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought the A story was amazing. The B story
Speaker 5: was completely unnecessary. I wish it wasn't in the episode
Speaker 5: and it was all just the three of you together
Speaker 5: with your storyline, because it just it was wedged in.
Speaker 5: It was completely not needed in any way, shape or form,
Speaker 5: because it was.
Speaker 4: Those butchers like the theme, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. It was weird.
Speaker 5: I just wish they just stuck with you guys, because
Speaker 5: it was so good watching that that way.
Speaker 2: And then it ended.
Speaker 5: It seemed like it ended very abruptly, like the show
Speaker 5: just kind of no your storyline just the show just
Speaker 5: kind of ended. And so if they didn't do the
Speaker 5: B story it, I think they could have flushed out
Speaker 5: your storyline more because I loved it and I wanted
Speaker 5: to see more.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see more of that. Frankly, it
Speaker 2: went out like I mean, I punch a guy.
Speaker 5: No, I know, but then it's like you just kind
Speaker 5: of turn and walk towards the camera and in freeze
Speaker 5: f and it was like, oh that's oh, that's it.
Speaker 2: Like I thought there was going to be some kind
Speaker 2: of wrap around, some kind of something.
Speaker 4: I end up with the girl like I know, but
Speaker 4: it was, yeah.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I felt like it just that scene as specifically just
Speaker 4: kind of ended for me.
Speaker 1: I thought you actually met your B storyline ended abruptly,
Speaker 1: has never started.
Speaker 4: Story It was really like, you know, it's just kind
Speaker 4: of a conversation between two characters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It didn't bother me. I mean
Speaker 2: it didn't bother me. I just didn't think it was necessary.
Speaker 5: I would love to have just seen the whole This
Speaker 5: could have been one of the weeks where I wasn't
Speaker 5: in the show and it was just your storyline, because
Speaker 5: I thought your storyline was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, thoroughly enjoyed the episode all the way around. I
Speaker 5: just I wish there was more of it. Frankly, really
Speaker 5: well written and really well acted. You guys were all
Speaker 5: even even the crazy like Ben being the crazies, any
Speaker 5: Korra and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just it's so funny.
Speaker 5: It's so funny that it is just and you just
Speaker 5: you have to suspend belief with the kind of nobody
Speaker 5: recognizes you guys.
Speaker 2: Really but I had no problem doing that.
Speaker 5: I had It was just fun all the way around,
Speaker 5: and it's an important lesson.
Speaker 2: I mean it really is. Yeah, really well done.
Speaker 1: So guest starring Ryan Biddle as Gary. He's a Juilliard
Speaker 1: grad who played Todd Wilkins on over forty episodes of
Speaker 1: Sweet Valley High and was seen on Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is so good in this episode, and like,
Speaker 4: I think so much of this episode works because of him.
Speaker 4: You know, he's like the perfect he just he's the
Speaker 4: perfect slime ball. Yes it is, and like, you know,
Speaker 4: to his credit, like, I mean, these are it's have
Speaker 4: to like just commit to you know, basically being on
Speaker 4: a date with a guy, like it was.
Speaker 2: It's fun. Yeah he does, and he's yeah.
Speaker 3: You're by it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And I remember, like it totally worked, enjoying
Speaker 4: working with him and like having it and watching it.
Speaker 2: Back, I was like, oh my god, that's so cool,
Speaker 2: Like yeah.
Speaker 4: He was straight, straight up cut from like the eighties
Speaker 4: bad guys, you know, Johnny from the Karate Kid kind
Speaker 4: of kind of look.
Speaker 2: It was great. It was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then we have Katie Wright as Debbie. You may
Speaker 1: know her from The Wonder Years, Malibu Shores, Mel's Place,
Speaker 1: or the movie Idle Hands. She is married to actor
Speaker 1: Hank Azaria and is now a family therapist.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. And then we
Speaker 1: have Jennifer Campbell who returns as Lonnie and this is
Speaker 1: unfortunately her last episode three of a three episode arc.
Speaker 1: A common moment of departure, it seems for some of
Speaker 1: our guest stars.
Speaker 4: Wonder if that's actually contractual, Like you do three episode arc,
Speaker 4: but then why end the storyline the way we did
Speaker 4: where it's like, man, I don't, Oh, what did I
Speaker 4: just do? Like we're setting it up to where now
Speaker 4: she's gonna friend zone me, I mean something, and then
Speaker 4: never comes back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We are barely in this Wilderness store. By the way.
Speaker 5: We built this in my head we were in the
Speaker 5: Wilderness Store all the time.
Speaker 4: We built this in a wilderness store a lot, but
Speaker 4: not as much as I remember.
Speaker 2: I remember this being in like every episode. Well it has.
Speaker 4: Been in episodes, it's just their shorter scenes. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 4: that's what the Wilderness Store that much. So you in
Speaker 4: your time there, right.
Speaker 3: Only in the Wilderness Store. So you was in the
Speaker 3: Wilderness Store.
Speaker 5: That's why I must feel like it's such a big
Speaker 5: part of it. Yeah, that's gonna be that, right.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like yours. Yeah, that's I think. So
Speaker 2: this is her last episode, huh Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then we've got Mark Arnold is Dave.
Speaker 1: He's got almost one hundred and fifty credits to his name,
Speaker 1: including Teen Wolf.
Speaker 2: We talked to him all week about Teen Wolf.
Speaker 4: We were just peppering him with questions all week about
Speaker 4: Team Wolf. We used to quote that movie constantly on
Speaker 4: the set. So when he walked on, we saw him
Speaker 4: at the table read you and I stopped.
Speaker 2: We were like, it's a bad guy from teen Wolf.
Speaker 2: The bad guy from Tea Wolf. It was so much
Speaker 2: fun talking to him about everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he also like Gary in this episode, yes, perfect,
Speaker 4: Like yeah, dude, like Alfad. Oh yeah, he looks like
Speaker 4: he's forty years old. The bad guy in the basketball
Speaker 4: team and Team Wolf. It's so great.
Speaker 1: It was also in Justice League, Blade Runner twenty forty
Speaker 1: nine and fifty two episodes of a nineteen eighty five
Speaker 1: show called Santa Barbara. Also, I have been reminded that
Speaker 1: when Hillary Tuck was on the show, she said she
Speaker 1: was only allowed to do three episodes because after that
Speaker 1: it would be considered a recurring guest.
Speaker 2: Ever, right, she said that didn't shit, and so they
Speaker 2: just cut it off.
Speaker 3: They were just like, you can't do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless they unless the network or the whole team
Speaker 4: was willing to commit to a bigger page.
Speaker 1: It also makes me wonder how much they were trying
Speaker 1: to get around that by having people come back as
Speaker 1: different characters. If they were like, look, if we name
Speaker 1: them something different, we can say they'd only done one episode,
Speaker 1: but no.
Speaker 2: Because that would have because Hillary was different characters.
Speaker 3: I know that's what I'm saying, But I wonder if
Speaker 3: they were thinking.
Speaker 2: Of, let's name her something different.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get around it by naming them different things,
Speaker 1: because it is. It does seem weird that, like if
Speaker 1: you have the same person play three different characters, it
Speaker 1: still counts as a recurring guest role even though those
Speaker 1: characters have still only done one episode.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: And you also, I guess if you I guess my
Speaker 5: question then, especially with Lannie, is you know this is
Speaker 5: her last episode?
Speaker 4: Why not wrap it up where she leaves. Why isn't
Speaker 4: the b the storyline I'm leaving Eric, I'm in a
Speaker 4: powerful need to go home or something.
Speaker 2: They would have.
Speaker 4: Known that it's her last episode. I think maybe, you know,
Speaker 4: they could have been hoping to convince the network to
Speaker 4: give them more money for maybe or some you know,
Speaker 4: there's always this tension between the production budget and the
Speaker 4: realities of the creative whims of the writing staff, and
Speaker 4: the writing staff might have been like, we love Lonnie,
Speaker 4: we want to bring her back, and then they're looking
Speaker 4: at the budget and saying well, then you can't have
Speaker 4: this said, or you can't have this trip to Disney World,
Speaker 4: or you know, whatever the considerations are. It's a constant conversation.
Speaker 4: And but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the writers
Speaker 4: were hoping to leave.
Speaker 2: It open a little bit. Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 1: So jumping into our recap, we start on our credits,
Speaker 1: and then we are in the school hallway. Corey proudly
Speaker 1: opens the school newspaper to show Sean his very own column. Also,
Speaker 1: I noticed here that the back reads Patriot Sports, which
Speaker 1: means we are most like the Patriots, the Patriots.
Speaker 4: Yes, did you guys notice our eyebrows?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. I say, I.
Speaker 4: Wrote down something strange with your faces, but I don't
Speaker 4: know what it was. They decided because you know, during
Speaker 4: the week, we did makeup tests to become the you know,
Speaker 4: the women like the girl characters, and they.
Speaker 2: Trip, they pluck both of our eyebrows. That's what it was.
Speaker 4: And so it's so funny to watch when we start
Speaker 4: the episode, we have like manicured eyebrows, especially for me,
Speaker 4: like I have, you know, gigantic eyebrows, and like even
Speaker 4: back then, I had bushy eyebrows and so yeah, so
Speaker 4: they're like super thin and like and I was like,
Speaker 4: something's oh, that's.
Speaker 2: What I said. I didn't know what it was. I
Speaker 2: was like, what's different? You see it in the classroom
Speaker 2: when I'm like leaning forward to Chorea, I'm like, what
Speaker 2: is going on? Eyebrows?
Speaker 3: Notice?
Speaker 2: I totally did is different?
Speaker 1: Well, we also should have noticed all of the all
Speaker 1: of the trash cans say patriots.
Speaker 3: Don't ask me how we.
Speaker 4: Missed this all this time, but just because we're staring
Speaker 4: at the blood drive sign all the time, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: So Sean reads the headline is it just me? Corey
Speaker 1: nudges him to read on is it just me? Or
Speaker 1: does paste not taste as good as it used to?
Speaker 1: Corey laughs? Isn't that so true? Sean breaks the news.
Speaker 4: The idea that this is what Corey is writing, Like,
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 1: I also love that we have made so many Seinfeld
Speaker 1: references on the show that now they've just taken the like,
Speaker 1: what does Seinfeld do? He notices every man things. What's
Speaker 1: the deal with? Yeah, what's the deal with? And so
Speaker 1: this is Corey's I just it's so funny, isn't it true.
Speaker 3: Is it just me? It's just so funny to me.
Speaker 3: So Sean breaks the news.
Speaker 1: I know you really believe in your little humor column,
Speaker 1: but don't you think you should be writing something more
Speaker 1: important like the girls swim team and why they don't
Speaker 1: wear high heels, which I thought was a funny Sean
Speaker 1: thing to say. And then to Panga walks down the
Speaker 1: hall with her good bestest friend Debbie.
Speaker 3: We know so much about lots of.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Debbie is also there.
Speaker 1: Too, so she comments, Gary took you to Leon.
Speaker 4: It's really expensive the restaurant. They might as well just
Speaker 4: call it the French restaurant exactly.
Speaker 3: Debbie laughs, Yeah, I know it was great.
Speaker 1: The date was going great, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the night he parked two blocks from her house, and
Speaker 1: to Panga angrily folds her arms Octopus time on cue.
Speaker 1: Gary walks past the girls and turns to Debbie. He
Speaker 1: says he had a really nice night the other night
Speaker 1: and adds a little laugh before walking away. Debbie finishes
Speaker 1: her story all over me, what happened to the nice
Speaker 1: guy I had dinner with? All guys are jerks on dates?
Speaker 1: Tapanga corrects her, not all guys. Debbie Corey, who's listening nearby,
Speaker 1: puts his hand to his chest. He knows she's talking
Speaker 1: about him. Sean bursts his bubble. Is it just me
Speaker 1: or should you not be proud of that?
Speaker 2: Got some learning to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey wipes the smile off his face and tries
Speaker 1: to act cool. Debbie, who I just noticed in this moment,
Speaker 1: has a very cool jungle themed trapper keeper. Her folder
Speaker 1: is a nice, awesome time capsule from the nineties, just
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing.
Speaker 3: She's continuing to talk to Tapanga after a night of
Speaker 3: fighting them off. I don't know if I want to.
Speaker 1: Go on dates anymore, she jokes, She'd rather spend her
Speaker 1: nights at the library. It's that pathetic to Panga agrees,
Speaker 1: guys and girls have such a different idea of what
Speaker 1: a date is supposed to be. Debbie, he wonders what
Speaker 1: goes on in guy's heads and to peg emotions towards
Speaker 1: Corey and Sean want to find out there's two of them.
Speaker 1: So Debbie asks Corey and Sean what goes on in
Speaker 1: their heads? And Corey immediately answers to Penga twenty four
Speaker 1: hours a day, it's the Tapega channel in here.
Speaker 3: To Pega hands him a treat.
Speaker 1: What a good boy. Corey giggles at the reward. Sean asks,
Speaker 1: don't you think that guys and girls are looking for
Speaker 1: the same things on dates? Debbie tells them what girls
Speaker 1: are looking for a good conversation and a good sense
Speaker 1: of connection. Sean wonders, you're not interested in making out,
Speaker 1: and Debbie responds, maybe I am, and maybe I'm not,
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't be expected. Sean argues, then, how are
Speaker 1: we supposed to know? What's okay? Debbie ensures him they'll
Speaker 1: let the boy know, but usually boys don't listen. They're
Speaker 1: too busy planning their next move to hear their dates.
Speaker 1: Say no, Sean, who of course wasn't listening, asks.
Speaker 2: Jan what this is great dialogue?
Speaker 3: So great?
Speaker 5: This is really good because it is also genuinely the
Speaker 5: boy asking the girl how am I supposed to know?
Speaker 2: And don't you want the same things? And it's like, well,
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be expected. It's just really really smart dialogue
Speaker 2: all the way around.
Speaker 1: It's really smart because I love that they didn't make
Speaker 1: it seem like, of course girls aren't interested in making out.
Speaker 1: It's like exactly, actually, yeah, I might totally want to
Speaker 1: make out with you.
Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't.
Speaker 4: Love the exposition getting to like the debate between Shawn
Speaker 4: and Debbie. But once Shawn and Debbie get into it,
Speaker 4: I like it. Like that's what I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: because but all this the preamble of like setting it up,
Speaker 4: it just felt like expositional setup. But once we get
Speaker 4: into this argument, I was like, this is cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this conversation is great.
Speaker 4: This is a real conversation. And and yes, she has
Speaker 4: given so much good like argument. You know, yes, she's
Speaker 4: provided with it's so great. She's not a foil. She's
Speaker 4: actually like a has a point of view and is nuanced,
Speaker 4: and it's a good argument. Like it's a good yet
Speaker 4: that people can still have.
Speaker 5: It's different than a lot of the way that the
Speaker 5: girls are written on the show. She came in with
Speaker 5: her own point of view, like you knew this girl away.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: Totally.
Speaker 2: I really liked that conversation.
Speaker 1: Corey points out, this is why I write my funny column,
Speaker 1: to take us away from the drudgery of interesting conversation.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but the only thing I was thinking about
Speaker 5: during during the beginning of part of the scene was
Speaker 5: how And I get why they couldn't do it for
Speaker 5: Girl Meets World, But you think, how interesting, what what? No,
Speaker 5: how interesting Corey would have been had he been a journalist, And.
Speaker 3: I forgot how much they set that up.
Speaker 5: Yes, and I know they had to do it because
Speaker 5: they needed the new mister Feenie, and they did it
Speaker 5: for Girl Meets World.
Speaker 2: But Corey as a journalist, I think could have been
Speaker 2: a really interesting way to go.
Speaker 1: To peg A counters that he should be writing about
Speaker 1: something that affects people. Debbie agrees Corey should write a
Speaker 1: column about why guys are such big jerks on dates.
Speaker 1: Sean asks, if this is how she feels about guys,
Speaker 1: why even go on dates at all? She contemplates for
Speaker 1: a second, then agrees, you're right. I'm done to Panga
Speaker 1: watches her walk away Way to be sensitive Sean. Sean
Speaker 1: rolls his eyes, really pays to be honest with a girl,
Speaker 1: and slams the newspaper into Corey's chest as everyone storms away. Corey,
Speaker 1: now alone in the hall, says aloud, is it just me?
Speaker 1: Or is it just me? And then we are in
Speaker 1: Phoenie's classroom. Poenie is lecturing about the book Black Like Me,
Speaker 1: written by John Howard Griffin.
Speaker 4: A like man, you have a black background actor. But
Speaker 4: one of the first times in the classroom.
Speaker 2: I noticed that too.
Speaker 4: There are two this scene. But it's just like, what okay, yes,
Speaker 4: thank you, thank you producers of Boy Mets World, because
Speaker 4: you know, somebody looked out and was like.
Speaker 2: They're talking about black like me. We should probably not
Speaker 2: have an all lily white.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Philadelphia in philip at a public school in Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: all white people, not an African American in the place.
Speaker 2: Until then we talk about black like me. I will say.
Speaker 2: It's always nice with the book reference.
Speaker 5: There's something very comforting about Feenie teaching a book that's
Speaker 5: going to have something to do with the show.
Speaker 2: Just very classic boy. I love it every time.
Speaker 1: So the white man, John Howard Griffin had his skin
Speaker 1: temporarily darkened so he could experience life through the perspective
Speaker 1: of a black man. Corey wonders while seated next to
Speaker 1: those two black background actors who have no lines, wouldn't
Speaker 1: it have been easier to just ask.
Speaker 2: And one of the guys in the background like shakes says.
Speaker 3: Up, guy, I know, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: Phoene explains there was so much distrust between the races,
Speaker 1: Griffin felt that he could only understand segregation if he
Speaker 1: experienced it himself. Sean, then hit with an idea, says,
Speaker 1: this should be Corey's next story. To understand girls, Corey
Speaker 1: needs to experience the world from a girl's point of
Speaker 1: view by becoming one. Corey scoffs that's crazy talk, but
Speaker 1: Seawan insists, no, you dress up like a girl and
Speaker 1: write about it.
Speaker 3: Chick like me.
Speaker 1: Sean says, it would be a meaningful article, not just
Speaker 1: some silly column. Corey argues, it's not a silly column. Peoene,
Speaker 1: who apparently has been listening the whole time, chimes in, yes,
Speaker 1: it is, which I love. Corey asks Feeney what happened
Speaker 1: to Griffin after he wrote his book? And Phoene responds,
Speaker 1: he sold five million copies in one immediate world renown.
Speaker 1: Why do you ask, mister Matthews? Corey corrects him Miss Matthews.
Speaker 1: Sean and Corey grinn mischievously the plan has begun.
Speaker 2: And then and then doesn't Phoene say like what he like?
Speaker 2: I'm like?
Speaker 4: Didn't he hear the whole conversation? If he if he's
Speaker 4: able to jump in, he would have heard the whole thing.
Speaker 2: He's over a foot away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know how sound word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the sound works on the show.
Speaker 5: If you're over a foot away is fifty to fifty
Speaker 5: story exactly, bingo.
Speaker 4: Face sing. You can hear every right, then that person
Speaker 4: is overhearing. Or if they're behind there, behind me, aren't
Speaker 4: they that's the other face.
Speaker 3: That's another time when that works.
Speaker 2: Yes, that works then too.
Speaker 3: Then we're at the Wilderness store.
Speaker 1: Eric is price tagging items behind the counter while Lonnie's
Speaker 1: rattling off some selling points for an available tent. But
Speaker 1: the male customer just stares back at her and says,
Speaker 1: in the tone of a local people tom, I'll remember
Speaker 1: who sold it to me. Lonnie loves to hear that.
Speaker 1: I hope you do. That way you can remember me
Speaker 1: for all your future wilderness needs.
Speaker 5: And I'm making really bizarre faces in the background. I'm
Speaker 5: doing some some serious facting bizarre faces. Yes, that's me bizarre,
Speaker 5: like wow, bizarre, but yeah, there's some serious facting going on.
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't notice.
Speaker 2: It's here's a well it's bizarre and wow, we both
Speaker 2: get him in.
Speaker 5: But yes, it's really just trying to put it all
Speaker 5: out there on the face when I have no lines.
Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of I forgot to mention, did you guys
Speaker 4: notice the cake face in the previous scene? Yes, the
Speaker 4: kid he does cake he does cake face, and it
Speaker 4: would have been written into the script.
Speaker 2: I forget what the exchange is, but he's in the
Speaker 2: classroom and gets at the end.
Speaker 4: It's how he ends the scene where it's like miss right,
Speaker 4: and then I think Phoene says something back to him,
Speaker 4: like questioning him, and then.
Speaker 2: He does this, he does cake face, and it would
Speaker 2: have been in the script at the point where, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got to find the drafts. So you were making
Speaker 2: some weird faces. That's it.
Speaker 5: It's just to go back and watch really strange faces
Speaker 5: in the background that kind of had to do with
Speaker 5: what they were.
Speaker 1: But truth be told, what you have to do something
Speaker 1: you know they're cutting to you for reaction shots.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding, Like, m it's a lot, a lot
Speaker 4: of acting. A lot of this is a bummer, Like
Speaker 4: I think that this storyline could have been done, like
Speaker 4: the idea that she is not great with men, and
Speaker 4: in particular city men, or like more sophisticated Philadelphia men
Speaker 4: without Southern accents, Like that's like, that's actually a cool storyline,
Speaker 4: but it's so it's so absurd. I feel I feel
Speaker 4: sorry for this actress because it's so ridiculous that she
Speaker 4: like what like literally can't know and it's they have
Speaker 4: to push it so far.
Speaker 2: It's I'm like, why why not?
Speaker 4: Why not find the nuanced version, especially in a script
Speaker 4: that does have such.
Speaker 2: Nuance in the argumentation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the other side, you know, in the a storyline,
Speaker 4: it's wonderful and everybody's given good arguments besides Gary maybe,
Speaker 4: but like everybody has a cool point of view, and
Speaker 4: I think that, yeah, this one just it didn't didn't work,
Speaker 4: and it's I just don't know why it had to
Speaker 4: be such a joke. It could have been great, Like
Speaker 4: what if Eric and her like really like what dating
Speaker 4: advice really was some something that Eric could give and that,
Speaker 4: you know, rather than it just being what ends up
Speaker 4: being a physical joke, like she touches him and he
Speaker 4: gets turned on.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's very easily would have given her such
Speaker 1: good advice. She immediately has a boyfriend and he's like
Speaker 1: and then he's like, I do that exactly, Like I
Speaker 1: could have had her all to myself, if I had
Speaker 1: just let her keep me, you know, like so yeah, anyway.
Speaker 1: The guy then nervously asks, you probably get this a lot,
Speaker 1: but would you want to get a cup of coffee sometime.
Speaker 1: Lonnie admits she's not much of a coffee drinker, and
Speaker 1: the man takes the hint, but Lonnie perks up, we
Speaker 1: could do something else. He then quickly responds, slightly desperate.
Speaker 1: Anything that would be great, Lonnie says, Why don't you
Speaker 1: come over to my place and I'll cook you a
Speaker 1: big old dinner. How about tonight we could wrestle. That
Speaker 1: would be wow. Lonnie smiles and hits him in the shoulder.
Speaker 1: I'llow what she did to Eric, and after dinner that's
Speaker 1: when the real fun starts. He's a bit taken aback,
Speaker 1: but still says I'm always up for a little fun.
Speaker 1: Lonnie tells him the plan. We'll rub oil all over
Speaker 1: our bodies.
Speaker 3: He nods, I like that.
Speaker 1: She continues, go jumping in the cold river and go
Speaker 1: eel grabbing. He's caught off guard, but Lonnie's excited. It's
Speaker 1: so fun for the eels too, well, unless their heads
Speaker 1: break off and there's a river you've.
Speaker 2: Never heard very.
Speaker 5: Grabbing river spot eel grabbing Allo, it's down by the crek'
Speaker 5: oh it is Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows out doors lack Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: She punches him in the arm again. Now it stings.
Speaker 1: She asks what time tonight and he backs away. Tonight's
Speaker 1: really not good for me. I've got another appointment, which
Speaker 1: actually doesn't involve eels.
Speaker 3: She jokes, where's your sense of adventure?
Speaker 1: He responds, I'll just take the tent, establishing she is
Speaker 1: not hot enough for eel grabbing. We've now hit we've
Speaker 1: hit the line.
Speaker 2: So the best best women are men, but not too much.
Speaker 1: He changes his mind. You know what, you keep the tent.
Speaker 1: What I'm going to do is leave. He darts out,
Speaker 1: and Lonnie calls after him.
Speaker 3: I was just trying to be friendly. Lonnie hangs her
Speaker 3: head and asks Eric if something is wrong with.
Speaker 2: Her from the audience, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: When it happened, I did.
Speaker 5: Too, and I was like, okay, writers write in the
Speaker 5: sense there is no need for that. There's no need
Speaker 5: for her in any way, shape or formed for this
Speaker 5: this one.
Speaker 4: It's it's always an awe because it's our second or
Speaker 4: third take.
Speaker 2: Knows that they're supposed to feel to steal back, you contribute,
Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, that's true. Now that's true.
Speaker 4: It never feels like, it never feels earnest, it never
Speaker 4: feels honest. I always like the obligatory. Let me tell
Speaker 4: let the.
Speaker 2: Audience help tell you the story. Right now, I gotta.
Speaker 1: Feel Lonnie hangs her head and asks Eric if something
Speaker 1: is wrong with her. Eric is scanning her up and down,
Speaker 1: not saying anything. She asks again, and he explains.
Speaker 3: I'm looking. She wonders, why am I always scaring boys off?
Speaker 1: Eric asks, you don't have a lot of social experience
Speaker 1: with men, do you? She says no, not with city
Speaker 1: men at least. He asks if she dated any guys
Speaker 1: up in the mountains, and she says, sure. We go
Speaker 1: out to the woods and shoot things. Well, when you
Speaker 1: see a cute, little fuzzy animal that you like and
Speaker 1: I love, will that you were able to fit in
Speaker 1: there a sense that you don't really like hunting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I that you want to you see a
Speaker 4: cute anile that you want to kill? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 4: great one. And this whole little like ron I do
Speaker 4: really like you know, like, yeah, you have potential a
Speaker 4: cartoon for you to see this speech, which is really funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: And it also, you're right, it absolutely had potential to
Speaker 4: be a possible good earn his storyline. It's also it's
Speaker 4: also Eric could have gone the route of Okay, I
Speaker 4: can tell she's not interested in me, but she's miserable
Speaker 4: being alone.
Speaker 5: Maybe I really can't help as a friend. You know,
Speaker 5: you could have gone that route too, and it just instead,
Speaker 5: you're right, it just wanted to end with her looking
Speaker 5: for a tag and me getting turned.
Speaker 4: Off speky and Soorcel moves.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Right, it's like elixir slipping, the elixir of the magical.
Speaker 5: It's like, come on, just it could have it could
Speaker 5: have been cool to.
Speaker 2: Just be a friend in this moment. Yeah, it's interesting they.
Speaker 4: Never decided to have Eric actually like all you do,
Speaker 4: you're you flirt with her, you pine after her, but
Speaker 4: like you don't actually make them Like it would have
Speaker 4: been interesting if Eric actually fell for Lonnie or like
Speaker 4: pursued a real relationship.
Speaker 2: They always just kind of go for the joke and
Speaker 2: the sex thing, which.
Speaker 4: They never did in seven in seven seasons with Eric,
Speaker 4: they never once had him pursue an actual relationship. Well,
Speaker 4: I thought the single out episode sort of ended with
Speaker 4: a pretty positive.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, positive for him. Eric's gonna actually like
Speaker 2: this person, yeah seriously.
Speaker 4: And I think hopefully down the line, there's one or
Speaker 4: two other guest stars in the house. I guess that
Speaker 4: you were but that yeah, but you were pursuing her
Speaker 4: in a real way, whereas this.
Speaker 2: Is just like right right, that's my Eric, no respect Eric.
Speaker 1: Eric wants to know when you see a cute, little
Speaker 1: fuzzy animal that you, you know, want to shoot, do you
Speaker 1: go running up to it yelling and waving your rifle
Speaker 1: in the air, Eric asks, Lonnie laughs no, because it'll
Speaker 1: scare the critter off. Ah, she's figured out her problem.
Speaker 1: You're saying, my behavior is scaring these citymen. Eric whispers
Speaker 1: just a smidge. Lonnie realizes she needs to learn to
Speaker 1: hunt and track these boys, but she's going to need
Speaker 1: a city man to practice on. Eric lets out a
Speaker 1: goofy giggle as she stares at him. And then we're
Speaker 1: in the Matthew's kitchen. Alan appears to be doing taxes.
Speaker 1: He's like got a calculator. Who knows what business He's
Speaker 1: got on the table.
Speaker 2: It's Wilderness Store, receipts.
Speaker 3: That's true, the receivable and payable, Yes.
Speaker 2: Exactly, Amy workship and tense.
Speaker 1: That week, ye, Corey and Sean walk in holding bags
Speaker 1: from Samantha's Secret. Alan asks Corey how his day was,
Speaker 1: but Corey quickly blows by him and heads to the stairs.
Speaker 1: Alan yells, hold on. Every day I ask you what
Speaker 1: you did, and every day you tell me nothing. We
Speaker 1: both know something happened today, and I want to know.
Speaker 3: What it is.
Speaker 1: Corey sighs, I decided to be a girl. Alan stares
Speaker 1: at him blankly. You taught me a very valuable lesson there, son.
Speaker 1: Sean asks, Samy, you know the book Black Like Me.
Speaker 1: A stressed Alan butts in, don't ask any questions, honey.
Speaker 1: Sean explains Corey's gonna write chick Like Me for the
Speaker 1: school newspaper. He's going to experience life through a girl's
Speaker 1: point of view by dressing up as a girl, and
Speaker 1: we reveal Corey holding up a cute red mini dress.
Speaker 1: Alan admits, no, don't want you to. Amy defends it.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful learning experience. It could serve him well
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life, and Corey holds up
Speaker 1: another dress. Amy pulls out a bra out of another
Speaker 1: shopping bag, and Corey explains it's a miracle bra. Alan
Speaker 1: sarcastically says, it's a miracle bra. Honey, get a camera, Corey.
Speaker 1: I'm not dressing up like a girl just for the
Speaker 1: sake of dressing up like a girl. I'm a journalist.
Speaker 1: Dag nabbot, And the dag nabbot is the dag nabt
Speaker 1: dag navity the line, Yeah, it's the line reading that
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you guys something, do you mind cross
Speaker 4: dressing funny?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be very funny back then. Like
Speaker 1: I mean you think about you know, missus doubtfire and
Speaker 1: but did.
Speaker 2: You ever find it funny?
Speaker 4: I mean, I I mean it depends on what you
Speaker 4: were I mean, there there was a there was an
Speaker 4: interesting way to do it. Like I go my head
Speaker 4: instantly when you asked that went to kids in the hall.
Speaker 4: Where the kids in the hall they were just doing
Speaker 4: sketches where they would be the female characters, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: Oh so you mean the actual idea of a like
Speaker 4: character having to you know, I mean, I sound like
Speaker 4: it hot as the ultimate example.
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't it's just funny because I
Speaker 4: remember when we did this episode. You know, obviously so
Speaker 4: much of the joke, so many of the jokes is
Speaker 4: look at these guys, you know, in a dress, or
Speaker 4: look at those guys being women, And I just remember
Speaker 4: being like, I don't.
Speaker 2: I never found that funny.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't find this is a doubtfire that funny.
Speaker 4: I never I just never was like, what's the joke?
Speaker 4: And it's it feels it's an interesting thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: some people still love it, right, I think it still
Speaker 4: kind of works. Like that's the point of drag is
Speaker 4: like a sort of performative like gender performance that is
Speaker 4: transgressive in a way, right, Like I am crossing a boundary,
Speaker 4: you know that I'm a man, I am dressing as
Speaker 4: a woman to like get a laugh or a joke.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm so curious, Like I remember not finding
Speaker 4: it that funny back then, but it was such a
Speaker 4: standard joke. It was saying you always had an episode
Speaker 4: of almost every show where a male character did this,
Speaker 4: and then like you know, I feel like there's a
Speaker 4: million Eddie Murphy movies where he's in a dress, you know,
Speaker 4: our serties.
Speaker 5: It's like but you go you can go back to
Speaker 5: some incredible films, Like you said, something like a Hot
Speaker 5: or TUTSI is another great example of I think if
Speaker 5: it depends on what the character's doing and what the
Speaker 5: characters learning as they're doing that, Like again, exactly what
Speaker 5: you're doing in Chick like Me, exactly what Sean is doing.
Speaker 5: There's there's jokes wrapped in to the story of what
Speaker 5: you're actually learning.
Speaker 2: By It's a good version, definite, rightly, exactly the version, right.
Speaker 4: But I feel like on the surface, the humor often is,
Speaker 4: oh my god, that's a dude in a dress, right,
Speaker 4: Like that's the joke is like to just laugh at
Speaker 4: like this guy we know, you know, and yeah it's
Speaker 4: I do remember like literally doing it and being like
Speaker 4: why is this funny? Like I don't know if this
Speaker 4: is uh, and I just always yeah, it's never struck
Speaker 4: me as as a joke.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, it's even worse actually if you take it to
Speaker 5: the level that it is, because we do it again,
Speaker 5: Jack and I do it again in a later episode
Speaker 5: where it's not only being a girl, it's that it
Speaker 5: doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Because you're a quote unquote ugly girl. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: where it is.
Speaker 4: It's not I remember that episode being as successful as
Speaker 4: chick like Me.
Speaker 5: No, because no, because you learn something and check like me.
Speaker 5: There was a point to it, there is, that's the
Speaker 5: whole idea.
Speaker 4: So great about this episode is that it actually it
Speaker 4: takes the joke, the sort of superficial, immediate joke of
Speaker 4: of cross dressing and takes it to a place where
Speaker 4: it's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Both yes, you know, everybody's.
Speaker 4: Learned something and experience something, and that's great.
Speaker 5: Our episode with Jack and Eric that do that, it's
Speaker 5: just cross dressing for the sake of the joke. Nothing
Speaker 5: is learned, nobody grows as a person. It is simply
Speaker 5: the joke of I look ugly in address. That's that's it,
Speaker 5: And that's so it's I mean, it's the tale of
Speaker 5: two things on the same show. It's that, you know,
Speaker 5: it's the tale of what you can do and what
Speaker 5: you shouldn't do. And I know that people love the
Speaker 5: episode where I dress up like a woman because they
Speaker 5: think it's funny, and if you can put that aside,
Speaker 5: that's all it is.
Speaker 2: But nobody, maybe a lot of people really do find it.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's a it's a trope, right, yes,
Speaker 4: well it's also been around for dress is whereas like
Speaker 4: the reverse isn't quite as funny, like a well girl
Speaker 4: dresses a guy is not. It's not as transgressive as
Speaker 4: miracle and like. But anyway, there's just something about twentieth
Speaker 4: century American culture that loved.
Speaker 2: Guys and dresses.
Speaker 4: Because it's also women were not allowed to act at
Speaker 4: all back in the Elizabethan age, so it was all
Speaker 4: it was the men were playing all the women too.
Speaker 2: It's different.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't a joke, That's what I mean. That's
Speaker 5: what That's what I mean. It wasn't a joke. That
Speaker 5: was they were actors playing a role, which is why
Speaker 5: when you get Dustin Hoffman in Tutsie, he's an actor
Speaker 5: playing a role that hearkens back to that time on stage,
Speaker 5: like you know, like Shakespeare.
Speaker 4: Again, it's a story where the cross dressing is like
Speaker 4: a funny fact outside of you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Not the point whereas I feel like the point of Corey.
Speaker 4: Pulling out a brawl and the audience going is like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, we're gonna see you know, it's like,
Speaker 4: isn't that hysterical?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, then Tapega walks in and tells Sean she
Speaker 1: may have been a bit protective of Debbie this morning,
Speaker 1: preventing her from fully considering his point of view. Sean
Speaker 1: proudly exclaims, I never knew I had a point of view.
Speaker 1: Corey says, everything's worked out for the best because he's
Speaker 1: decided to be a girl and see what it's really like.
Speaker 3: Topanga frowns, not in a dress, You're not.
Speaker 1: Corey was counting on her expert assistance to help in
Speaker 1: selecting the proper female accouterment. Tapanga asks, you want me
Speaker 1: to dress you up like a girl? Corey smiles, yeah
Speaker 1: to Panga, make Corey pretty. Tapanga responds, cool, I like it.
Speaker 1: It was the cool of Danielle cool.
Speaker 5: I also like that they had Topanga coming in and
Speaker 5: the first thing she's doing is apologizing to Sean for not.
Speaker 4: Listening to his point of view. Like it's a good
Speaker 4: moment between the two of you.
Speaker 5: Whose She's like, you know what, I might I might
Speaker 5: have dismissed you too fast this morning exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think it's also a nice acknowledgment that you know, truthfully,
Speaker 1: there is another side.
Speaker 3: To this that deserves hearing as well like it.
Speaker 1: Maybe we've been we're having miscommunications and part of it's
Speaker 1: because I wasn't listening to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sean has also already come you know, he's yeah,
Speaker 4: he's come up with this project.
Speaker 2: You walk and saying, let's do this project.
Speaker 1: It's a very mature. It's so mature all the characters.
Speaker 1: So then we do a kind of optical flip to
Speaker 1: Corey's room. We haven't seen it for a while. We
Speaker 1: get a nice look at the parking meter piggy bank
Speaker 1: that we remember from season one. To Penga and Sean
Speaker 1: are waiting patiently for Corey outside the bathroom, when to
Speaker 1: Pega shouts, Sweetie, you have to come out eventually. Corey groans,
Speaker 1: don't want us second thoughts to peg It promises they
Speaker 1: won't laugh. Corey assures them, you're not seeing what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: Sean reminds Corey he's going to make a difference in
Speaker 1: the lives of guys and girls everywhere. Corey reiterates, you're
Speaker 1: not seeing what I'm seeing. Sean asks how bad a
Speaker 1: girl could you be? And then Corey walks out of
Speaker 1: the bathroom wearing a brown wig, bright red lipstick, a
Speaker 1: giant bra underneath a relatively tight dress, brown tights, white
Speaker 1: high heels, and long fake nails. It is a very
Speaker 1: committed costume. And want to go on record as saying
Speaker 1: I don't think he looks that bad.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think he looked at bad either. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4: The irony here is that at the end of the
Speaker 4: episode when he's Cora, he's actually the most convincing female,
Speaker 4: the most you know, like way more convincing than I
Speaker 4: think I am.
Speaker 2: You know, it's and then that.
Speaker 4: And his performance is so great, like so cool a
Speaker 4: character like oh yeah, like I feel like I've actually
Speaker 4: met women that talk and look like that. And Ben
Speaker 4: is so good. So the idea that Corey can't do
Speaker 4: it here I never quite understood. I remember even when
Speaker 4: we were filming.
Speaker 3: It being like yeah.
Speaker 4: But then he shows up his Cora. Why did he
Speaker 4: choose to do Cora? And he does it so well.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's weird, but I guess they just
Speaker 4: needed again the joke of like gout dress and that.
Speaker 2: But Ben is very funny in this scene, so funny.
Speaker 4: I think he sells it by playing it as a
Speaker 4: stretched out woman, which is really fun, you know, like
Speaker 4: his mannerisms and like I think I look fat, and
Speaker 4: like the way he holds his nails and like.
Speaker 2: All of that.
Speaker 4: But it's also so that's all very meta, like why
Speaker 4: would Corey be acting like that? Right, He's uncomfortable being dressed,
Speaker 4: you know, but it's it's funny.
Speaker 2: Whatever, It's very Do you think he didn't button up?
Speaker 2: There's like two or three of the choice buttoned. I
Speaker 2: know they had to make him that's the thing.
Speaker 4: They had to like overstuff his bra and make it
Speaker 4: his shoveled and because you know.
Speaker 2: That's you know, we had to set up the storyline
Speaker 2: to get me. And I couldn't tell if that was
Speaker 2: a choice or not. I guess it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Topanga can hardly look at him, and Sean admits, okay, bad.
Speaker 1: Corey asks how bad, and Sean tells him bad bad. Corey,
Speaker 1: siys I knew it. I look fat, Sean says, fat
Speaker 1: is the least of your problems, baby. Topanga wonders, maybe
Speaker 1: it's just not a good color for you. Corey's upset,
Speaker 1: and he runs back toward the bathroom. Topega and Sean
Speaker 1: grab him. She's confident they can do this, It's all
Speaker 1: about how you present yourself to Panga encourages him to
Speaker 1: show it off. So Corey gathers himself and starts strutting
Speaker 1: with some sass. He snaps his hands back and forth.
Speaker 1: He contemplates the cat walk and asks if that was
Speaker 1: all right. Shawn answers, not even on a desert island.
Speaker 1: Girls just glide more. You gotta kind of let it flow.
Speaker 1: To Pega admits, that's right on the nose. Sean shrugs.
Speaker 1: Girls are my area. I like girls. Corey asks Sean
Speaker 1: to show him, so Sean does his own sassy glide
Speaker 1: and to Panga and Corey realize what needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Sean repeatedly says no, no, no, no, and then we
Speaker 1: optical flip to the school. A rowdy guitar riff plays
Speaker 1: as Sean is peeking out into the hallway. We see
Speaker 1: he's wearing some dark eye makeup, paired with red lipstick
Speaker 1: and a brown wig with bangs. He looks a little
Speaker 1: apprehensive before stepping out in a mini skirt, gliding next
Speaker 1: to a very giddy Corey.
Speaker 3: Matthews, right, or what do you remember about this scene?
Speaker 4: Oh? Well, I just remember the whole week, you know,
Speaker 4: so much attention because you know, you have to realize,
Speaker 4: like it's written on the page that I'm supposed to
Speaker 4: gorge gorgeous, or that you know that it works in
Speaker 4: a way that it doesn't work for Corey. And of
Speaker 4: course it's it's easier to sort of figure out way
Speaker 4: is to make somebody unattractive than it is to make.
Speaker 2: Them actually attractive.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, so I just remember so much energy
Speaker 4: put on, like you know, I actually had tape on
Speaker 4: my face to like pull it back obviously, lots of makeup,
Speaker 4: the wig and then the outfit that would work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remember being stressed out. I remember
Speaker 2: being stressed out this week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember mostly being like you know, which is
Speaker 4: funny because when I watched the episode, I don't feel
Speaker 4: that stress. Actually, I feel like I'm pretty I'm really
Speaker 4: happy with my performance. I go, this might be maybe
Speaker 4: the best.
Speaker 2: I've done on.
Speaker 4: Because of the cross stressing factor, because the the quick changes,
Speaker 4: especially like in this scene, and like the ability the
Speaker 4: way that that you know, when Sean is in character
Speaker 4: when he's not, you know, I went to laugh with
Speaker 4: him or when to laugh at him, and like I'm
Speaker 4: just like I didn't realize how much I was threading
Speaker 4: this needle as an actor, and I look back on it,
Speaker 4: I'm just like, wow, that was mer curial, Like he
Speaker 4: I'm moving through like one look at the and I
Speaker 4: was like, and then you know, there's just a relaxed,
Speaker 4: like a confidence that I'm really impressed by in seventeen
Speaker 4: year old writer. I'm just like, good, good job, dude,
Speaker 4: this is cool. Like I don't know that many seventeen
Speaker 4: year olds who who would have pulled this off?
Speaker 2: Like I don't know.
Speaker 4: Like, so for one of the first times on this podcast,
Speaker 4: I'll say, like, I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 2: Should be.
Speaker 5: You're also playing it completely and totally straight, like totally committed,
Speaker 5: and so the comedy is just coming. You're not hitting
Speaker 5: you're not trying to hit any joke, which is what
Speaker 5: we do on this show.
Speaker 2: We're trying to hit jokes all the time.
Speaker 5: The comedy is coming from the commitment of just playing
Speaker 5: this character, and the comedy comes naturally from the situations
Speaker 5: that you're then in, which makes makes the laughs three
Speaker 5: times as sharp.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when I watched the scene, I was like,
Speaker 4: because I guess over the years, I think the sort
Speaker 4: of popular conception of this episode, at least it has
Speaker 4: been reflected back to.
Speaker 2: Me, is like, oh my gosh, you were hot, like
Speaker 2: you were actually you know, And I looked at it
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, it's still still kind of
Speaker 2: looks like me.
Speaker 4: I got a big face, I got a big agree
Speaker 4: with you. You're very like I look kind of.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was just like, it's it's very interesting because when
Speaker 1: you know, we had Lori Heaps on the show and
Speaker 1: Laurie was talking about what a what an undertaking it was,
Speaker 1: and you know, finding the wigs and.
Speaker 3: All of that. It's it is a hard job.
Speaker 1: For the crew when in a script, no matter how
Speaker 1: realistic it is, it just says Sean is a gorgeous woman,
Speaker 1: and then next to that, you know, Corey's a hideous woman.
Speaker 1: It's much easier to make somebody look ugly. You can
Speaker 1: add things and make them look disheveled and do all
Speaker 1: kinds of things. It is much harder to make a
Speaker 1: very you're a manly guy, you have a you have manly,
Speaker 1: stereotypically manly features to now suddenly with no plastic surgery,
Speaker 1: but just what you can you have at your fingertips
Speaker 1: sell you as a convince a convincingly attractive feminine woman.
Speaker 2: Difficult.
Speaker 4: It's hard, yeah, yeah, And that's why I think like
Speaker 4: Corah is actually more successful because it's character and you
Speaker 4: can tell that, like, you know, obviously, they figured out
Speaker 4: the hair and the thing, and then figured out an
Speaker 4: attitude and a and a way of walking and talking
Speaker 4: that matched the outfit, and.
Speaker 2: It becomes its own thing.
Speaker 4: And that's way more convincing than Sean as Veronica.
Speaker 2: Like Veronica to me always felt a little I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, but but but I think that the trick is
Speaker 4: the high boots and the short skirt. Right, we just
Speaker 4: have to make it, yes, we have to make it
Speaker 4: like a fast girl, a typical boy, you know. So
Speaker 4: she's I mean, Veronica is rest like right, like a
Speaker 4: stripper really, you know, a porn star, like if she.
Speaker 2: Really you know.
Speaker 1: So much of that is because of the colors they chose,
Speaker 1: because I thought the same thing. I was looking at
Speaker 1: the black and the red and I was like, they
Speaker 1: went for a very look at me va vavom color combo.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if that's because they were hoping that
Speaker 1: that that alone would add a sexual factor that maybe
Speaker 1: you and more in softer colors, Maybe you looked manlier
Speaker 1: with with more neutral colors or something.
Speaker 2: So did you have to do you remember?
Speaker 5: Did you have to try on a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: looks and a whole bunch of outfits or was it
Speaker 5: kind of just like.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I remember being stressed out like I
Speaker 4: remember being I wonder how much of that stress and
Speaker 4: anxiety was performative on my part though, you know, which
Speaker 4: is a little bit of a bummer to think about.
Speaker 4: But I think that I probably was, like wanted to
Speaker 4: make everybody sure that I was. I was uncomfortable with
Speaker 4: having to be like a woman, you know, like you know,
Speaker 4: because do you see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think seventeen year old as much just I can look
Speaker 4: back and say, I'm I was confident in in my
Speaker 4: acting and like in the in the beat to beat,
Speaker 4: I think there was also a part of me that,
Speaker 4: you know, wanted to make sure everybody knew that like
Speaker 4: this isn't normal for me.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't typically just you know, which is ridiculous,
Speaker 2: like who gives me writer?
Speaker 4: But but you know, I was seventeen whatever, and I
Speaker 4: was asked, and I was, you know, frankly, like I
Speaker 4: didn't get asked whether to do that. You know, you
Speaker 4: just get the script and you got to do it.
Speaker 4: So I'm sure there was a little bit of like
Speaker 4: can I pull this off? And that insecurity fed into well,
Speaker 4: I shouldn't want to pull this off, like I don't
Speaker 4: need to, you know, because I am such a guy,
Speaker 4: such a I would never you know, which, you know.
Speaker 2: But then I also.
Speaker 4: Kind of remember that there was some acting, like there
Speaker 4: was some fun that like, oh, you know, this is
Speaker 4: a typical acting thing. Like you said, it goes back
Speaker 4: to Elizabethan tradition. You should be able to play anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I know, without a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 1: Writer, young writer, modern day writer would have loved the
Speaker 1: idea of this message, like the scripts message you were
Speaker 1: hook line and sinker for, this is a message that
Speaker 1: need to be told, like women need. You know, this
Speaker 1: is so you would have loved the point behind it,
Speaker 1: while also dealing with teenage ego stuff of but it
Speaker 1: makes me very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's equivalent to having to be in your
Speaker 4: underwear exactly, like the way great story yes, this could
Speaker 4: be good for the character of the storyline, but as
Speaker 4: the actor.
Speaker 2: I have to actually do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's what I remember feeling mostly with this
Speaker 4: episode was that anxiety of like, this is I have
Speaker 4: to pull this off. I have to go through makeup
Speaker 4: for four hours. I have to try on. Like you said,
Speaker 4: I don't remember, but I'm sure I tried it on
Speaker 4: more reading different outfits before they were like, this is
Speaker 4: the right combination.
Speaker 2: Because it is, it's tricky. How do you sell it
Speaker 2: but also make it obvious?
Speaker 4: And yeah, but anyway, going back when I saw this scene,
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't I'm not that convinced.
Speaker 2: And I'm also just I don't think I'm that attractive.
Speaker 4: But whatever, it's it's funny and the point is there,
Speaker 4: and you know, I guess compared to Corey, it's it's great,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Sean nervously asks Cory why everyone's staring at him. Corey admits,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to take this the wrong way,
Speaker 1: but you're kind of a babe. Sean's excited to hear this.
Speaker 1: Corey even offers to carry his books. Sean's down, that's cool.
Speaker 1: They walk over to Topanga and she asks why Corey's
Speaker 1: carrying Sean's books, and he explains, we're trying to create
Speaker 1: the illusion that Sean's a girl, so I thought this
Speaker 1: would help. Topenga says he never carries her books, and
Speaker 1: Corey says, well, look at him, and sheepishly smiles.
Speaker 3: The inmates in the audience love it.
Speaker 2: They did. They were very on board.
Speaker 1: They are laughing and Tapanga eyes Cory up and down.
Speaker 3: Funny book. I give.
Speaker 4: It's such a like it's it's so interesting to see
Speaker 4: how much this was on the heels of an affair
Speaker 4: to Yes, you know, it's like this sort of and
Speaker 4: I wonder how long I'm going to really enjoy it.
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying this now, but like, I know, we do
Speaker 4: the gay joke a lot, you know, like the Corey
Speaker 4: Sean and it's like walking then you know here it's
Speaker 4: very funny because it's like you know, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: curious how many episodes in I'm going to be able
Speaker 4: to like think this is great but it's very funny. Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey covers and look at you. You were just
Speaker 1: radiant today. Topanga, always the ally how asks how it
Speaker 1: feels for Sean to be wearing pantyhose. He reminds her
Speaker 1: it's not Sean. He needs a girl's name. Corey offers Janet,
Speaker 1: but Sean turns it down to Pega. Senses there's more here.
Speaker 1: You've thought about this before, haven't you. Sewan admits a little.
Speaker 1: The name he likes is Veronica. Corey turns to Tapanga
Speaker 1: in horror, but Tapanga responds encouragingly, Veronica is a lovely name.
Speaker 1: Right then mister Feeney walks up to the group. Good morning,
Speaker 1: Miss Laurence, mister Matthews, mister Hunter, and then he stops.
Speaker 1: Dead iness tracks Beeanie looks up to the sky and
Speaker 1: shakes his head in dismay. He turns to Veronica and
Speaker 1: smiles awkwardly. If there's anything you need to talk about,
Speaker 1: my door is always open. I'm not here to judge.
Speaker 5: So now I loved it, but I had a thought,
Speaker 5: do you think it? I mean, there's two ways to
Speaker 5: look at it. You can never fool Feenie. He's gonna
Speaker 5: he'll always know no matter what. But the other way
Speaker 5: to look at it is that people would be able
Speaker 5: to recognize that it's Sean right away.
Speaker 2: So I didn't you know, I didn't know if.
Speaker 4: It's interesting, it should have come after somebody else.
Speaker 2: Exactly the same thing.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't have started with the first persons recognizing him.
Speaker 1: He's just so used to seeing the three of us together.
Speaker 1: He said the three names.
Speaker 2: I read it as always knows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I got to But I thought, if
Speaker 4: it's shakes his head, it's brilliant. But if just one
Speaker 4: person first saw it, like like acknowledge that Veronica was
Speaker 4: Veronica before then Foenie comes in and says Sean Hunter.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think it would have made it stronger because when
Speaker 5: the first person addresses as Sean, my head instantly went to, oh,
Speaker 5: then the this guy's never going to work everybody, you know,
Speaker 5: everybody's going to know him.
Speaker 4: I would love to see the script for this. Do
Speaker 4: you think you have a copy of Chicken? I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I was just thinking, I want I'll look through everything
Speaker 4: I want to see if I'm curious about I just want
Speaker 4: to know this is like the second or third time
Speaker 4: this has come up. I really want to know what
Speaker 4: the stage direction said, like, what did you say for Bill?
Speaker 2: What did you say?
Speaker 4: Did Feeney stop roll his eyes like it's not rolling
Speaker 4: that because like what Bill does is just like a
Speaker 4: prayer to heaven? Like what do you call that? Little
Speaker 4: like desperate? Like I can't believe I have to deal
Speaker 4: with this.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 4: I would love to see how that was actually if it.
Speaker 5: Was, because don't you remember Kevin Calton saying that he
Speaker 5: he one time puts something in for a stage direction.
Speaker 2: For Bill and Bill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is how to say your actual life? This
Speaker 4: would have been a beat on the page with the
Speaker 4: action line. And I'm so curious what it said, like
Speaker 4: I just because however, you know, I don't know. However,
Speaker 4: as a writer, I'm curious what it said because it's
Speaker 4: so cool. Yeah, and then also as a as an
Speaker 4: actor and appreciate someone who appreciates Bills acting. If it's
Speaker 4: not there, what you know what he brought to it
Speaker 4: as an actor, I'm so curious.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's great.
Speaker 1: So Sean clarifies it's for an article we're writing. Phoene
Speaker 1: reminds them I am not here to judge and walks away.
Speaker 1: Corey notices their target. Gary is approaching Tapenga says to him,
Speaker 1: Debbie said, you two went out on Saturday that Gary
Speaker 1: notices Veronica and is distracted.
Speaker 4: This look man, his ability with his eyes to just
Speaker 4: go hey, hey, hey, he plays a great creed.
Speaker 2: He does plays a great creed. It's his locked down
Speaker 2: to the new girls. Yep, so good.
Speaker 1: Hi there, I'm Gary, Corey excitedly introduces Veronica. Veronica was
Speaker 1: Boyski was Boyski. Gary kicks some game. I've never seen
Speaker 1: you before you knew in school. Veronica laughs, Yep, I'm
Speaker 1: just a whole new person. I do like your womanly voice.
Speaker 3: Writer. Yeah, it's not too overdone.
Speaker 2: Really well, I don't know. I mean, I don't. I don't, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't. I felt a little uncommitted. It's like I
Speaker 2: felt like I was done.
Speaker 1: If it had been over the top, it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been good. It's so subtle, subtle and just just delicately
Speaker 1: feminine enough enough that it's it works. I really think
Speaker 1: had it been over the top with the way you look,
Speaker 1: I also would have been like, Nope, I can't, I
Speaker 1: can't buy it. But it really worked, And I think
Speaker 1: the reason it worked for me is because of your voice.
Speaker 3: So I think it was a good choice.
Speaker 1: Gary offers to take her to Chubby's tell her what
Speaker 1: teachers to avoid all of that stuff, but then adds,
Speaker 1: I mean, unless your boyfriend already did that. Corey interrupts again, No, Gary,
Speaker 1: this one is definitely available. Veronica shoes him away. Corey,
Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. That'd be great to hang
Speaker 1: abouts in. So Saturday is that good for both of you?
Speaker 1: Sean reminds her under his breath, Saturday is my date night.
Speaker 1: Corey exclaims it still is.
Speaker 4: And this is one of those moments where I was like,
Speaker 4: that's so good. You just ought to John the coach
Speaker 4: switching that Sean is doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's really well done.
Speaker 4: I'm so curious, Like going back just a second, I
Speaker 4: wonder where this episode fell in the right I can't
Speaker 4: wait to talk to Steve Hibbert, Like who came up
Speaker 4: with this? Like why, Like I wonder if they watched
Speaker 4: An Affair to Forget and we like, let's let's push
Speaker 4: it even further, right, you know, like the way that
Speaker 4: because because I reminded just right now and when when
Speaker 4: I'm doing the female the Veronica, it's very similar to
Speaker 4: the way I was like Corey, you know, like laughing
Speaker 4: at like they're shy, the shy like, and so I
Speaker 4: wonder if that was the inspiration, Like the writers were like,
Speaker 4: oh we could, we could just push this even further
Speaker 4: into Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Well, we can't wait to talk town.
Speaker 1: We got to see And then Veronica smiles at Gary
Speaker 1: and agrees to Saturday. Gary so he'll see her then,
Speaker 1: and gives her a wink as he leaves. Corey and
Speaker 1: Tapanga congratulate John. He's got a date.
Speaker 3: John's nervous. I have nothing to wear, and I love this.
Speaker 3: I love how now it's just so quickly.
Speaker 1: All of the fears and all of the anxieties about
Speaker 1: being a woman, the insecurities just and.
Speaker 5: All your mannerisms were like, well, it were perfect at
Speaker 5: the time. You're like fiddling with your fingers.
Speaker 2: And ran around.
Speaker 3: It's really well done.
Speaker 1: We go to a commercial break and then we come
Speaker 1: back at the Wilderness Store. It's now after hours. Eric
Speaker 1: and Lonnie. She's back in her crop top flannel. That
Speaker 1: makes so much sense. They're practicing her approach with city.
Speaker 2: You can be warm, but show that belly button.
Speaker 1: So your boobies are warm, but your belly button is cool.
Speaker 2: And I've got the cool sleeves rolled off as Eric
Speaker 2: looks pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric creates a scenario where he's a guy named Dave,
Speaker 1: and when Lonnie sees him at the club, she wants
Speaker 1: him to avoid detection and stay with the hunting metaphor.
Speaker 1: She crouches down and walks slowly toward Eric, slyly, placing
Speaker 1: herself right next to him at the bar. Eric tells
Speaker 1: her to make eye contact and smile, so she gives
Speaker 1: him a big grin and enthusiastically says, I want that one,
Speaker 1: and she pokes him on the nose. Eric admires her
Speaker 1: single mindedness, but no, he says that if she gives
Speaker 1: a guy a compliment.
Speaker 3: He will be hers for the rest of her life.
Speaker 2: Apparently, what world.
Speaker 1: Is it true of a man that if you give
Speaker 1: him a compliment, he will be loyal to you for
Speaker 1: the rest of his life.
Speaker 2: Well, let's try it. Give me a compliment right now?
Speaker 3: Will you have the most gorgeous eyes?
Speaker 2: I love you, my god? It works it that's amazing.
Speaker 4: Do you think, Well, I don't know the loyalty, but
Speaker 4: I do think that like when you say that, like
Speaker 4: guys like to have their egos. Oh, that's more than
Speaker 4: because the opposite, like with women, like the sort of
Speaker 4: uh pick up artist strategy opposite, right, the whole.
Speaker 3: Like the whole why'd you wear that jacket?
Speaker 4: Right? The nagging idea, right, Like that's the like traditional
Speaker 4: advice if you want to get a guru, you gotta
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: And I think that's not true.
Speaker 4: Well maybe it's I don't know, does it work the
Speaker 4: other way? You never hear about pickup artists from a
Speaker 4: female perspective. There must be some.
Speaker 5: Because you don't need to be an artist and you
Speaker 5: walked up and you go, yeah, hey, let's go, and
Speaker 5: you wear a fleece crop top.
Speaker 2: And that's jacket or exactly check.
Speaker 4: Yeah, though I don't know, but I would assume just
Speaker 4: based on my life experience. Yeah, Guys like compliments, right,
Speaker 4: They like being told you're smart.
Speaker 3: The whole idea of like, wow, you're smart.
Speaker 1: They'll talk to you that night, sure, but then the
Speaker 1: minute somebody else gives them a compliment, Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: give us a compliment, where yours for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life?
Speaker 5: It's like what I just I always think of that
Speaker 5: amazing line is that from when Harry met Sally where
Speaker 5: he says women need a reason have sex, men just
Speaker 5: need a place.
Speaker 2: And I think that's true basically.
Speaker 4: But it's also like what is her problem?
Speaker 2: Exactly, like what is you want?
Speaker 4: Because she doesn't want to man she wants to a
Speaker 4: dude to hang out with, or she wants somebody to date.
Speaker 4: I think she wants for somebody to date, but again,
Speaker 4: would that be like really, I don't know, she's scaring
Speaker 4: the guys off by being too man manly.
Speaker 1: There's a right level of manliness to be the perfect woman.
Speaker 1: She hasn't hit that yet, right.
Speaker 5: I think it's also she think what they were trying
Speaker 5: to do was also talk where it's more about I
Speaker 5: think they attempted to do more about city versus country. Yes,
Speaker 5: and really country where it's like let's go hunting and
Speaker 5: eel grabbing, right, you knowing.
Speaker 1: Also like I'm going to beat you in arm wrestling.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a better shot than you. I'm
Speaker 1: going to wrestle eels like things where it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: you you are really like the manliest bro I could
Speaker 1: ever hang out with.
Speaker 5: Right, And maybe what's interesting is the bet storyline. What
Speaker 5: essentially they're saying, if you look at it this way,
Speaker 5: is that to Lannie, gender doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 2: It's all blur.
Speaker 5: If you're hanging out, having a good time and doing
Speaker 5: what you love. Where in the A storyline, gender was
Speaker 5: very very important, so it was kind of the Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was a weird balance between the two. Maybe you're right,
Speaker 5: maybe that's why they did need the B storyline writers,
Speaker 5: because there is that kind of balance.
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to see more.
Speaker 4: At your point in some way, right, its like it's
Speaker 4: a reverse like she has to learn how to be
Speaker 4: a woman, right, she has to learn how to think
Speaker 4: like a man. Yes, that's that's more. He's not trying
Speaker 4: to tell her to be more feminine.
Speaker 1: Well, he is trying to tell her you're scaring them off,
Speaker 1: and the way you're starring them off is by being
Speaker 1: more manly than they and they are kind.
Speaker 4: Of but but he's not even yeah, yeah, he's trying
Speaker 4: to put her in the mindset of like how a
Speaker 4: man perceives her or how a man, which is.
Speaker 3: Like too manly.
Speaker 1: You're punching me and it hurts, and your idea the
Speaker 1: time shunting and wrestling eels, which like maybe I would
Speaker 1: want to do with my bros, but isn't what I
Speaker 1: want to spend my time with a lady friend, do it, right?
Speaker 5: But They easily could have taken this storyline and gone,
Speaker 5: we need to put you in a dress and you
Speaker 5: need to learn.
Speaker 3: How to you know, I'm glad they didn't do that.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad they didn't go It wasn't Eric wasn't
Speaker 4: teaching her to be more feminine, right, It wasn't like
Speaker 4: you need to be more of a girl.
Speaker 2: It was just you need to tell right, your shirt's
Speaker 2: too big.
Speaker 4: Never came out of Eric's mountain, right, But yeah, you
Speaker 4: could see they could have gone that route where it's like, well,
Speaker 4: we got to put you in a dress. It could
Speaker 4: have been that same thing, and thankfully they didn't go
Speaker 4: that route.
Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't. You're right.
Speaker 1: Lonnie touches Eric's flannel. That's the nicest shirt. I'd love
Speaker 1: to get one for my brother Buck.
Speaker 3: Who makes that?
Speaker 1: Eric tells her some shirt guy, and Lonnie takes the
Speaker 1: liberty of checking the tag. She's all over him trying
Speaker 1: to find the label, and Eric is soaking in every minute.
Speaker 1: She stops herself and realizes, you know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Eric dreamily responds, just what God intended. Lonnie says, no,
Speaker 1: I'm being too friendly again, and you were just about
Speaker 1: to tell me that, weren't you. And the reason this
Speaker 1: part doesn't really work is that her previous friend over
Speaker 1: friendliness had nothing to do with being too physical.
Speaker 4: No, no, and she's not scaring him away, she's actually
Speaker 4: drawing him.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's actually like, I know, this part didn't
Speaker 1: really work. You were just about to tell me that,
Speaker 1: weren't you. Eric lies, yes, Lonnie admits I never would
Speaker 1: have thought that being friendly could drive people away. I
Speaker 1: guess friendliness is just different between men and women. Eric
Speaker 1: agrees and steps back a respectable distance, sticking out his
Speaker 1: hand for a handshake. Instead, she grabs his hand and
Speaker 1: politely says, my name is Lonnie Bowden, and I will
Speaker 1: do whatever I can not to physically invade your personal space.
Speaker 1: Perhaps we can discuss your career goals over a great
Speaker 1: knee high. Eric gives her a fake laugh and utters.
Speaker 3: What have I done? And I like this part.
Speaker 1: I love the idea where if he could have set
Speaker 1: her up with somebody, if there was some sort of
Speaker 1: advice where now he was actually losing his chances with her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that part's great.
Speaker 5: But instead what they did was we never see her again, right,
Speaker 5: exactly so that's I do like to think that grape
Speaker 5: knee high was a mash reference.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm hoping it has to be, because
Speaker 3: what is it.
Speaker 2: Grape knee Hi's a drink. Okay, you've never had greape
Speaker 2: knee high? You know who love?
Speaker 5: Grape knee high is rider because it's all it's a no,
Speaker 5: it's a soda. It's like grape soda. But it almost
Speaker 5: has the same kind of backbite as that ginger beer
Speaker 5: that you like.
Speaker 2: So it's like a grape kind of But yeah, from.
Speaker 4: Paper Moon, eat your Coney Island, drink your knee high Moon, right, No, please,
Speaker 4: are you serious?
Speaker 2: It's like the greatest movie ever. Oh man to movie
Speaker 2: for a rider? Please party? Yes, oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 2: you will love it. I'll bring the I'll bring grape
Speaker 2: knee high.
Speaker 3: Right, you'll bring the movie.
Speaker 1: Chubby's the only place a day can happen. Veronica and
Speaker 1: Gary are sitting next to each other in a booth
Speaker 1: near the OJ Jersey when Gary says, this has been
Speaker 1: a terrific evening and you are just great.
Speaker 2: On the same side of the back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're committed again. I love how Sean is committed
Speaker 5: to this whole thing.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Veronica is visibly nervous, but Gary continues, how is
Speaker 1: it that someone like you doesn't have a boyfriend. She laughs,
Speaker 1: I haven't really been looking for a boyfriend because I've.
Speaker 3: Just been going through a lot of changes.
Speaker 1: Gary assures her, anytime you want to talk, I'm here
Speaker 1: to listen. She thanks him, admiring his kindness, and it
Speaker 1: seems as though he's developing a bit of a crush.
Speaker 1: Then she snaps out of it. I've got to have
Speaker 1: some food.
Speaker 3: Gary takes charge.
Speaker 2: Call that beat that and it was she gets some food,
Speaker 2: I get some food. It was I love it.
Speaker 4: So it's very like, I'm not quite it's funny. It's
Speaker 4: just like I'm getting caught up in the.
Speaker 2: Moment with Yes, you're getting caught up in Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3: It's great because.
Speaker 1: It's also I love that like your the Veronica slash
Speaker 1: Sean thought process is like, maybe I'm feeling faint, maybe
Speaker 1: I need to eat, Maybe maybe I need to eat something.
Speaker 3: It's just so funny.
Speaker 1: And then Corey bursts in from the kitchen, now wearing
Speaker 1: a curly wig and a king waitress uniform.
Speaker 3: In a husky voice, she asks how you're doing honey.
Speaker 1: Topanga's at a nearby table watching on and is speechless
Speaker 1: and bemused. Her eyes are popping out of her head.
Speaker 4: Veronica, a little explanation like what was like?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: What is?
Speaker 2: What is Corey's playing here?
Speaker 1: I know, I think just wanted to be involved, just
Speaker 1: to be involved. But you're right, there's no setup, like
Speaker 1: why was this necessary?
Speaker 4: Just like one little like like sean to I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess I do say, like Corey, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: So you're insane?
Speaker 4: Right? But wouldn't it be great if he was like
Speaker 4: this is my research, like I have to be here? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like just some explanation of like he's
Speaker 4: there to be undercover also to get the or whatever.
Speaker 4: But instead it's just like and I guess they just
Speaker 4: were like no, it's just too funny, doesn't It doesn't matter?
Speaker 2: But I should have been a side with Topanga. What
Speaker 2: are you doing research? That's exactly my job.
Speaker 4: I'm the journalist. I'm the one who has to write
Speaker 4: the article. I might as well, yeah, because it is
Speaker 4: weird that Shawn's doing all the undercover journalism, and then.
Speaker 2: But then Corey is still going to.
Speaker 4: Be an easy thing to just rationalize, like I had
Speaker 4: to go under cover his korra in order.
Speaker 3: To be it's possible.
Speaker 1: They just figured that's obvious, Like we've already discussed this.
Speaker 1: The whole scene of them getting dressed in the women's
Speaker 1: clothes was all about I've got to do this for
Speaker 1: my research.
Speaker 4: But then and then Sean not knowing that he was
Speaker 4: going to show up, is weird, Like right, exactly like
Speaker 4: Sewan and Tapanga should be like here comes Corey in him.
Speaker 1: Even at the end of the scene where you got
Speaker 1: the where you got the the date, if.
Speaker 3: There had just been a little bit now we hatch
Speaker 3: our plan where it's.
Speaker 4: Like and also like what happened between Corey dressing as
Speaker 4: a woman before and Corey.
Speaker 3: Dressing as a woman now, that makes him think a.
Speaker 4: Conversation of like, well, you can't be attractive enough to
Speaker 4: be the bait, but you can't get the bait, so
Speaker 4: you have to do something else in order to get
Speaker 4: this article. That's all it would have taken, is like
Speaker 4: one conversation like we gotta find a role.
Speaker 2: You know, you have to go on to cover two.
Speaker 5: We'll figure it out or yeah, or it's just Sean
Speaker 5: ending the last scene going I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do this alone. I can't. Don't worry, you won't.
Speaker 2: He won't be alone. Yeah, you won't be alone.
Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, Yeah, and then not being surprised that
Speaker 4: he's it's weird that I'm surprised. I guess.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you weren't surprised, I would think all of that
Speaker 1: happened off screen.
Speaker 3: And I buy it, And I'm.
Speaker 4: In Corey rescuing me yet whatever, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, Veronica whispers Corey, and he corrects her. Core Rah,
Speaker 1: I'll be your waitress this evening. Corey remarks, I come
Speaker 1: in here a lot. I've never seen you before. Chorus
Speaker 1: snaps back, quit hitting on me. Just just so funny,
Speaker 1: She laughs, just kidding, it's my first night.
Speaker 3: She winks at Gary.
Speaker 1: Veronica shakes her head and says under her breath, you're insane.
Speaker 3: Cora asks to take their order. Baby Gary goes first.
Speaker 1: My usual, a double chili burger and one chocolate milkshake
Speaker 1: with two straws. Veronica says, I'll have the same, and
Speaker 1: a steak and a steak. Aura and Gary are surprised
Speaker 1: by this appetite.
Speaker 4: The association of like masculinity with meat steak.
Speaker 1: But the thing, I like, it's not about masculinity. For me,
Speaker 1: it was all about Seawn. He's not a free meal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's to me. It was just like, this is what
Speaker 1: Seawn would do.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean I mean I just know,
Speaker 4: having been a vegetarian for so much, it was like
Speaker 4: it was an immediate opportunity for people to question my
Speaker 4: masculinity or your sexuality or my sexuality erect right. Like
Speaker 4: it was always like, especially in the late nineties early
Speaker 4: oft it was like immediately like, oh, well you must
Speaker 4: be gay.
Speaker 2: Or you're turning into a woman, or.
Speaker 4: Some joke or some teasing immediately followed the fact that
Speaker 4: you're a vegetarian.
Speaker 3: But in this case, it does also work for Sewan.
Speaker 1: I think Sean, Yeah, I mean it totally works.
Speaker 4: You're trying to increase atosterone because of meat consumption. Meat,
Speaker 4: that is true, so yeah, but it's it just struck
Speaker 4: me at this. I was like, this is such a
Speaker 4: kind of obvious, easy joke.
Speaker 1: But yes, but I did. I thought of it as
Speaker 1: an easy Sean joke, and I liked it.
Speaker 2: I mean, he wanted extra food like him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had we had the joke about you coming
Speaker 1: in when Corey and you were like, what is this
Speaker 1: When he has the burger I wasn't gonna.
Speaker 3: I was gonna and.
Speaker 1: Then it's cut in half and you want to pick
Speaker 1: it up and eat half of it, and it's like,
Speaker 1: to me, it works perfectly for Sean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that take, but I think I think
Speaker 4: there's also this extra layer of like, right, and you.
Speaker 1: Have a personal bias about it because you had been
Speaker 1: through it in your life, so it struck you.
Speaker 2: Corra Cora has to comment on it.
Speaker 4: You got quite an appetite, like I don't know, like
Speaker 4: he's eating too much for a woman, and he's eating
Speaker 4: not womanly food.
Speaker 2: That is the joke. As part of the joke.
Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying that Sean is poor and
Speaker 4: wants as much food as you can get for out
Speaker 4: of this guy, But there's also another layer of like
Speaker 4: that is not very seemly for being for ronic.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, there's definitely commentary on the fact that women
Speaker 1: would probably not consume in one meal a steak plus
Speaker 1: a double chili cheeseburger. But when I felt like there's
Speaker 1: the obvious joke, I actually thought that's the obvious Sean moment,
Speaker 1: which I thought was cute. It did not in any
Speaker 1: way make me think, ugh, stereotypical men eat and women
Speaker 1: need to eat a salad. I didn't think that. I
Speaker 1: thought cute, cute that Sean is like, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: you have a steak. I'm at Chubby's and somebody else
Speaker 1: is paying great. So Corey and Gary are surprised by
Speaker 1: this appetite. Corey pinches Veronica's cheeks. Aren't you the voracious
Speaker 1: little eater?
Speaker 3: Corey.
Speaker 1: Cora walks away, waving and mouthing hi babe to Tapanga.
Speaker 1: As she passes to Panga, stares back in awe with
Speaker 1: a huge smile on her face. Gary puts his arm
Speaker 1: around Veronica. Are you having a good time? She admits,
Speaker 1: a little trouble breathing. You're crowding me a bit. Gary
Speaker 1: insists you're probably just tense. How about I rub your shoulders.
Speaker 1: She uncomfortably mentions, I didn't ask you to do that.
Speaker 1: Gary brushes it off, but doesn't it feel good? Veronica
Speaker 1: shoves him. You're not listening to me, Gary laughs, you're
Speaker 1: a strong one. Yeah, I play a little field hockey.
Speaker 3: She says.
Speaker 1: Gary mentions he knew that because the first thing he
Speaker 1: noticed or Veronica's legs. He slides his hand down her
Speaker 1: thigh and Veronica immediately jumps up.
Speaker 3: She yells, you just don't listen.
Speaker 1: You're too busy planning your next move to hear us
Speaker 1: say no, He pulls the same move Sean did earlier
Speaker 1: in the episode, not listening what. Veronica grabs her purse
Speaker 1: and storms away. Kora stops her and asks, now in
Speaker 1: Corey's voice, what happened? Sean breaks character, he touched me
Speaker 1: on my knee? What makes him think that that it's
Speaker 1: his knee? To Pega wonders, well, maybe you sent him
Speaker 1: a signal, and Seawan argues, the only signal I sent him.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 4: It's amazing between the three of us, and like the
Speaker 4: way that we're able to have.
Speaker 2: The it's just believable.
Speaker 4: And yet it's perfectly to the debate that started the episode,
Speaker 4: and it feels like Cory and I mean, Topanga and
Speaker 4: Sean are seeing each other's point. It's just great.
Speaker 5: Yes, and Pega is also challenging him in a really
Speaker 5: interesting way, like, well, maybe sent a signal?
Speaker 1: Like he can that she doesn't. She doesn't like that
Speaker 1: all the time accusatory.
Speaker 4: She's letting him draw it out very intelligently, so he
Speaker 4: has to come to those own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, it's great, Sean argues.
Speaker 1: The only signal I sent him was to stop it
Speaker 1: to Panga points out, and he didn't listen. Sean explains,
Speaker 1: I'm not like that and I never will be again.
Speaker 4: Right before a really nice little revision that Sean makes.
Speaker 4: It's like this micro it's like, I'm not like that,
Speaker 4: and then realizing like, oh my god, I might have been.
Speaker 3: I may realize it.
Speaker 4: I may have been, like I'm not all and so
Speaker 4: he makes the sort of immediate adjustment.
Speaker 5: Doesn't he say it twice? Which I think is even better.
Speaker 5: Doesn't he say I'm not like that, I'm not I'll
Speaker 5: never be like that again. And it's the second I'm
Speaker 5: not that just sold the whole thing for me, where
Speaker 5: it's like now he's first he just says it because
Speaker 5: he's it's a knee jerk reaction, well I'm not like that,
Speaker 5: and then it's trying to convince yourself right, and then
Speaker 5: it's the realization that maybe I was.
Speaker 2: And it all happens that fast. It's great, so well done.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, like one, that's only three seconds.
Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, And then right before Gary walks up, Sean
Speaker 1: wants to quit, but Corey reminds them they have an
Speaker 1: article to finish. Sean's eye, I should have worn a
Speaker 1: pant suit, which great, gosh, it's so great. Then Gary arrives.
Speaker 1: Look sorry, I got a little aggressive. Nobody respects women
Speaker 1: more than me.
Speaker 3: Great, ride.
Speaker 2: Me too, Like I love my mother.
Speaker 4: I would never be any guy ever, said.
Speaker 2: Well, I have the mom, I have it. Shut up,
Speaker 2: but has nothing to do with exact women.
Speaker 4: You're actually attracted to her inner relationship like stop.
Speaker 3: Stop, nobody respects women more than me. You forgive me.
Speaker 1: Chorus speaks on her behalf. Of course she forgives you.
Speaker 1: You two are just adorable together. Gary extends and offered
Speaker 1: to Veronica, how about I teach you how to play foosball?
Speaker 1: She smirks, how about I teach you? She glides away
Speaker 1: and Gary laughs Yeah right. They walk away, and Chorus
Speaker 1: starts to complain pulling at her clothes.
Speaker 3: My hosiery is bunching.
Speaker 2: We said we would. We said that for the next
Speaker 2: four years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for the rest, for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 2: We would say that.
Speaker 1: Veronica leads Gary to the foosball table and he gives
Speaker 1: a very simplified explanation of how to play the game.
Speaker 1: Veronica asks, like this, and effortlessly scores a goal, which
Speaker 1: is wrong.
Speaker 4: By the way, I don't think you're not technically you're
Speaker 4: not allowed to spin.
Speaker 2: You can't spin the handle.
Speaker 4: No, that's playing football, absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the fact that Sean's supposed to be good on it, right,
Speaker 4: aggressive and fast and hard, spin them, spoon them.
Speaker 1: Gary looks at her and awe kind of like that.
Speaker 1: Veronica jokes, I can go a little easier.
Speaker 3: If you want.
Speaker 1: Gary brushes her off. Just take your next shot. He
Speaker 1: blocks her shot, and she gives him admiration on the
Speaker 1: way he blocked it. He asks, oh, you like that,
Speaker 1: Let me show you how I did it. He walks
Speaker 1: over to Veronica, sliding his hand down her arms and
Speaker 1: positioning himself directly behind her to show her how to
Speaker 1: do it. He advises, what you need to have is
Speaker 1: a real light touch. Then he grabs her hips and
Speaker 1: Veronica shoves him off. Gary defends himself. I'm just showing
Speaker 1: you how to play the game. Veronica fights back, I
Speaker 1: know how to play the game. He sarcastically tells her,
Speaker 1: I could tell by the way you're dressed. Veronica answers,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to look nice. Gary compliments her and
Speaker 1: grabs her shoulders. She reminds him not to touch her.
Speaker 1: Gary holds his hands up dramatically. Okay, don't like to
Speaker 1: be touched. Veronica's getting mad. Did it ever occur to
Speaker 1: you that I might be a nice girl?
Speaker 2: No, leather jacket.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I don't like this one part of the writing that
Speaker 1: the implication is nice girls, nice girls don't want to
Speaker 1: ever make out or fool around on a first date.
Speaker 3: That part maybe could have, but.
Speaker 4: You're not a nice girl. It's then okay to just
Speaker 4: go over and manhandle you.
Speaker 1: That's the other right, exactly that either way, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: the only reason you're not allowed to do this is
Speaker 1: because I'm a nice girl.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Gary argues, No, what I thought was no. What I
Speaker 1: thought was that you'd be into guys. But I guess
Speaker 1: you're not. I guess you prefer girls for a corresponds
Speaker 1: Now in Shawn's voice. As a matter of fact, I do,
Speaker 1: Gary shocked. What Sean reiterates, I said, as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, and punches Gary directly in the face.
Speaker 2: I do one of the few moments of violence.
Speaker 5: Yeah, an actual punch, not a headlocker, an actual punch
Speaker 5: who headlocks.
Speaker 3: Gary, lays on the floor in pain.
Speaker 2: Head off, jerk store.
Speaker 1: Gary lay's on the floor and pain. What was that
Speaker 1: for for every girl I've ever known? Then Cora walks over,
Speaker 1: Please pay it the register, honey, and tipping is not
Speaker 1: a city in China. She rips off the receipt and
Speaker 1: throws it onto Gary. Coorra locks arms with Veronica. Come on, honey,
Speaker 1: we're out of here. Then Corera grabs Tapanga's arms and
Speaker 1: the three of them walk out proudly. And I love
Speaker 1: that little ending to our story.
Speaker 5: And it was like, David, let's go. And then boom
Speaker 5: their credits to there are Oh. I thought there's going
Speaker 5: to be more.
Speaker 2: I was hoping that was going to be more.
Speaker 1: And then we're in the tag in the school hallway.
Speaker 1: The school newspaper's big headline is chick Like Me, and
Speaker 1: above it is a picture of Veronica and Coorra. Everyone
Speaker 1: is reading it, including Sean and Corey, who are surrounded
Speaker 1: by girls taking a look. Phoene waltz up applauding them.
Speaker 1: Seems the whole school is talking about it, and if
Speaker 1: I do say so myself, excellent article, though he shakes
Speaker 1: his head troubling photographs. Tapega and Debbie excitedly joined them.
Speaker 1: Topanga is so.
Speaker 3: Proud of Corey.
Speaker 1: Corey shrugs, well, I am a journalist, dag nabbitt. Debbie
Speaker 1: then thanks him for what he did. Sean responds, not necessary.
Speaker 1: I learned a lot. In fact, of all the guys around,
Speaker 1: I'd say I'm the world's most perfect date right now.
Speaker 4: A way to Penga gives Corey a lot of great
Speaker 4: Sean cam up with the idea and.
Speaker 2: Exactly kind of interesting, like.
Speaker 1: We have to keep the boy in the storyline to
Speaker 1: Pega has but it's his his wrote he wrote the article.
Speaker 1: So the whole idea at the beginning of it was
Speaker 1: he should write something of substance, so he sure Sean okayt.
Speaker 2: Him to do it, and then like when he would
Speaker 2: he couldn't do.
Speaker 1: Debbie ads, of all the girls around, I could probably
Speaker 1: use a perfect date right now. So what do you
Speaker 1: have in mind? Sean suggests we could start with an
Speaker 1: evening of good conversation. Debbie throws in and a genuine
Speaker 1: connection with another human being. Sean says, I'm your boy.
Speaker 1: Debbie holds out her hand and Sean grabs it. They
Speaker 1: walk away happily together. The audience woos them loudly. Is
Speaker 1: to Panga and Corey watched the couple with smiles on
Speaker 1: their faces. Corey's face turns into a painful grimace as
Speaker 1: he scratches his pants. Panga asks what's wrong, and he
Speaker 1: says in his Cora voice, my hosiery is still bunch,
Speaker 1: and there you have it.
Speaker 3: There you go. This was, like we said at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I think this was while I was watching it, I
Speaker 1: was so enjoying it. I was enjoying the story, I
Speaker 1: was enjoying the relationships. I was enjoying the way it
Speaker 1: was written. You could play this episode right now and
Speaker 1: it would be it would feel timely and relevant and
Speaker 1: smart and funny and yeah.
Speaker 3: I just overall really really.
Speaker 2: Season four, Season four, just continuing one after another.
Speaker 3: It's great, britty darn great.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode
Speaker 1: of Podmeets World. Our next episode recap will be season four,
Speaker 1: episode sixteen.
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