WEBVTT - TGI – Episode 415 “Chick Like Me”

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<v Speaker 1>Recently, we posted on Instagram an article from an old

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<v Speaker 1>teen magazine story about writer, and it says writer one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent original, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Journal, I learned so much about you I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Not know right now there's a beautiful picture of Writer's face,

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<v Speaker 1>and then above it it says centerfold on page forty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but here's the article. When it comes to summing

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<v Speaker 3>up writer strong.

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<v Speaker 1>He fits into the the See that's the thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't fit into any category. Oh yeah, ask Writer the

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<v Speaker 1>quality he likes best about himself, and he'll answer not

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<v Speaker 1>fitting into a stare type is probably what I'm happiest about.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing himself well. Could also be one of Writer's appealing qualities,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's true. Writer definitely doesn't fit into any particular

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<v Speaker 1>type or warrant a neat little label. He's no cookie

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<v Speaker 1>cutter guy who tries to look like everyone else and

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<v Speaker 1>say the same things everyone else does. Writer is truly

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<v Speaker 1>an individual, which is probably one of the qualities you

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<v Speaker 1>like best about him too. For starters, writer has a

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<v Speaker 1>unique name. How many writers do you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That you did that? You chose that, You chose it

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<v Speaker 2>your own category. Man, you chose your name. God so far.

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<v Speaker 4>All we had is one quote where they asked me,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you like about yourself? Right, and I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't fit into a category. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what they ran with this whole article.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, and not so ordinary looks. He has that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of boy nex door but with an edge thing going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But his way of viewing the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what really makes him stand out from the masses.

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<v Speaker 1>Take writer's taste in music. Like a lot of fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old guys, writer loves rap, whoa do at all?

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<v Speaker 4>He does it all now literally never in my life

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<v Speaker 4>have I loved rap Like I went to one phase

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<v Speaker 4>at like twelve where I tried because everybody was getting

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<v Speaker 4>into it and like just like no, not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So funny okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But but at the same time, he's also really into classical.

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<v Speaker 3>So for instance, when we actually tell us never like.

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<v Speaker 2>Really not into it, No, no, you will you mind it.

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<v Speaker 5>We went through a phase on boy too, worked.

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<v Speaker 4>Into instrumental music in different periods, but yeah, not like oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a big chopin guy never chopping.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So for instance, when we asked him to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>his favorite song, he picked no not the Latest by

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop Doggie Dog No, but a little baroque number called

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<v Speaker 1>Cannon in D which yeah you.

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<v Speaker 2>Love you did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was a CD called Canon and D Variation

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<v Speaker 4>and it was just did you give it?

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<v Speaker 2>I gave it to you. It was that song like

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<v Speaker 2>nine different ways. It was so cool that. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was because of you.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was because of you.

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<v Speaker 4>I had this CD and it had just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like a bunch of versions and they were cool because

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<v Speaker 4>like some of them were like modern synthy, some of

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<v Speaker 4>them were like really classical, and you could I think

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<v Speaker 4>I just loved the idea of different versions of something.

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<v Speaker 2>I always loved. This one was on like a harpsichord. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a good mind that. But I definitely had

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite version. It was tracked two.

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<v Speaker 5>Was that the classical one like that? It was almost

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<v Speaker 5>like the Ferrest Bueler.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there was one.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like I think it had like a really

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<v Speaker 4>it had like a more it was it had like

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<v Speaker 4>an electronic music background, like there was a like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, I'm gonna find this. It was my favorite

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<v Speaker 4>track was either two or three on that CD. That's right, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a great song. If it ain't broke, don't

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<v Speaker 4>fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you very much, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing writer doesn't like is listening to music just

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody else says it's which is one reason you

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<v Speaker 1>won't find Counting Crows on his CD.

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<v Speaker 2>They picked.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it's so weird, like they must have just

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<v Speaker 4>not talked to me and just decided to pick whoever

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<v Speaker 4>was the top of the charts at that week or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But they literally and then like that, I like wrap

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<v Speaker 4>and then it's yeah, it's it's you. You wonder if

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<v Speaker 4>this was put do you remember doing any of this

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<v Speaker 4>interview or was it just.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not an interview here.

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<v Speaker 5>They pulled a quote like that's what I mean. So,

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<v Speaker 5>but they didn't call you for this to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, like I said, I used to do interviews with

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<v Speaker 4>these these magazines.

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<v Speaker 2>The first two seasons a boy, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Did a bunch of these interviews, and they would sit

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<v Speaker 4>with me, or they would stop me at events with

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<v Speaker 4>a tape recorder and ask me like five questions really quick,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just answer them.

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<v Speaker 2>Or we do photo.

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<v Speaker 4>Shoots and then they'd be like, hey, could you go

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<v Speaker 4>talk to so and so in the corner And I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't realize even that it was like an interview, but

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<v Speaker 4>they'd be recording it and then like they'd write ten

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<v Speaker 4>articles out of one interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this isn't even I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the it's so weird to think about, what is

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<v Speaker 4>the point of these these articles? Are these magazines? Right,

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, who are they? It's like the it's catering

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<v Speaker 4>to teenage girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is social media. This is ninety social media.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all. This is get to know you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the stuff that other people now put up themselves,

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<v Speaker 5>like their favorite playlist and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we weren't doing that back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is just i'd like your Twitter page the

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<v Speaker 1>end of it, which says his willingness to make like

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<v Speaker 1>a full on goofball in public men quote, I'm constantly

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<v Speaker 1>pretending to bang into doors and making people think I

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<v Speaker 1>hurt myself my friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I still haven't desire to do that every time I

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<v Speaker 4>open a door in front of somebody. Like, right, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a part of me that we're so used to doing.

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<v Speaker 4>The face slam trips. Yeah, yeah, you did it really

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<v Speaker 4>well though, you were really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>All this individuality makes writer one strafty bright guy strafty

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<v Speaker 1>bright being writer's own what else but unique word meaning

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<v Speaker 1>cool the end?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's similar to social media. Yeah, so interesting. I had

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<v Speaker 4>no idea what I was getting into when I talked

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<v Speaker 4>to those those no you know, like Ben just never

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<v Speaker 4>did any of them, right, like he never did a

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<v Speaker 4>single one and so never he.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't did he was he? Ever?

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<v Speaker 4>Was? His parents said no, and I guess they had

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<v Speaker 4>gone through it with Fred maybe to a certain degree,

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<v Speaker 4>or just decided that it wasn't classy enough like that

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<v Speaker 4>there was.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even realize that you're right, he never did these.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't know whereas like the three of us were like

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<v Speaker 4>who wants to interview us? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, who cares? Because we just were like this is

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<v Speaker 2>fun and this is cool. This is what being an actor.

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<v Speaker 4>Is until I was like fifteen or sixteen, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I don't know if this is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do these.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you you also went to the next level though,

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<v Speaker 5>you that you were one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 5>Tiger Beat kids that literally like a Jonathan Taylor Thomas

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<v Speaker 5>where you then.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to another level. But sure, but still.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you were probably one of the top two

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<v Speaker 5>or three for couple of years, I would imagine, so

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<v Speaker 5>that's was a whole different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't it. You know, there's so not a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing. Like it was not good for your acting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>If anything, it diminished your standing within the industry as

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<v Speaker 4>an actual actor because it was like, oh, you are

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<v Speaker 4>ten essentially to a male like equivalent to a male model.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's like, oh, you you're appealing to this side

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<v Speaker 4>of your career as opposed to you know, any sort

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<v Speaker 4>of artistic or expressive Uh. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting, a little bit of a mummer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Roger Strong, and I'm will Fredell.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we are recapping season four, episode fifteen, Chick Like Me.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe We've made it here. It originally air January

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<v Speaker 1>thirty first, nineteen ninety seven. The synopsis in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get a better understanding of how girls think, Corey Intopanga

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<v Speaker 1>disguise Sean as a girl and set him up on

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<v Speaker 1>a date. Also, Eric teaches a coworker how to attract

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<v Speaker 1>a man. It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It was

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<v Speaker 1>written by Steven Hibbert, and did you guys have any

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<v Speaker 1>overall thoughts before I jump into our guest star cast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I've always known that this was a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty legendary episode. You know, it's infamous for obviously the

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<v Speaker 4>big set piece, but I always remembered it as a

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<v Speaker 4>very well written episode, and sure enough it still struck

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<v Speaker 4>me as perfectly structured, incredibly well written, funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I loved it. I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>top five Boy Meets World episode for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I said the same thing last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is in my top five favorite Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Meets World episodes. I think it's it has all the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, exactly what we've talked about, with the right balance,

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<v Speaker 1>the right balance between really funny, laugh out loud moments

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<v Speaker 1>and yet a very poignant, relevant, great great topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought the A story was amazing. The B story

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<v Speaker 5>was completely unnecessary. I wish it wasn't in the episode

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<v Speaker 5>and it was all just the three of you together

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<v Speaker 5>with your storyline, because it just it was wedged in.

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<v Speaker 5>It was completely not needed in any way, shape or form,

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<v Speaker 5>because it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Those butchers like the theme, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was weird. It was weird.

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<v Speaker 5>I just wish they just stuck with you guys, because

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<v Speaker 5>it was so good watching that that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it ended.

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<v Speaker 5>It seemed like it ended very abruptly, like the show

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of no your storyline just the show just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of ended. And so if they didn't do the

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<v Speaker 5>B story it, I think they could have flushed out

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<v Speaker 5>your storyline more because I loved it and I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to see more.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to see more of that. Frankly, it

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<v Speaker 2>went out like I mean, I punch a guy.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I know, but then it's like you just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of turn and walk towards the camera and in freeze

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<v Speaker 5>f and it was like, oh that's oh, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I thought there was going to be some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wrap around, some kind of something.

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<v Speaker 4>I end up with the girl like I know, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like it just that scene as specifically just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of ended for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you actually met your B storyline ended abruptly,

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<v Speaker 1>has never started.

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<v Speaker 4>Story It was really like, you know, it's just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a conversation between two characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. It didn't bother me. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't bother me. I just didn't think it was necessary.

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<v Speaker 5>I would love to have just seen the whole This

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<v Speaker 5>could have been one of the weeks where I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>in the show and it was just your storyline, because

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<v Speaker 5>I thought your storyline was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, thoroughly enjoyed the episode all the way around. I

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<v Speaker 5>just I wish there was more of it. Frankly, really

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<v Speaker 5>well written and really well acted. You guys were all

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<v Speaker 5>even even the crazy like Ben being the crazies, any

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<v Speaker 5>Korra and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so funny that it is just and you just

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<v Speaker 5>you have to suspend belief with the kind of nobody

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<v Speaker 5>recognizes you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Really but I had no problem doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>I had It was just fun all the way around,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's an important lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it really is. Yeah, really well done.

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<v Speaker 1>So guest starring Ryan Biddle as Gary. He's a Juilliard

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<v Speaker 1>grad who played Todd Wilkins on over forty episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet Valley High and was seen on Seventh Heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he is so good in this episode, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>I think so much of this episode works because of him.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's like the perfect he just he's the

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<v Speaker 4>perfect slime ball. Yes it is, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to his credit, like, I mean, these are it's have

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<v Speaker 4>to like just commit to you know, basically being on

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<v Speaker 4>a date with a guy, like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun. Yeah he does, and he's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You're by it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, And I remember, like it totally worked, enjoying

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<v Speaker 4>working with him and like having it and watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>Back, I was like, oh my god, that's so cool,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He was straight, straight up cut from like the eighties

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<v Speaker 4>bad guys, you know, Johnny from the Karate Kid kind

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<v Speaker 4>of kind of look.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. It was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have Katie Wright as Debbie. You may

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<v Speaker 1>know her from The Wonder Years, Malibu Shores, Mel's Place,

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<v Speaker 1>or the movie Idle Hands. She is married to actor

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<v Speaker 1>Hank Azaria and is now a family therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>have Jennifer Campbell who returns as Lonnie and this is

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately her last episode three of a three episode arc.

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<v Speaker 1>A common moment of departure, it seems for some of

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<v Speaker 1>our guest stars.

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<v Speaker 4>Wonder if that's actually contractual, Like you do three episode arc,

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<v Speaker 4>but then why end the storyline the way we did

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<v Speaker 4>where it's like, man, I don't, Oh, what did I

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<v Speaker 4>just do? Like we're setting it up to where now

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<v Speaker 4>she's gonna friend zone me, I mean something, and then

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<v Speaker 4>never comes back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We are barely in this Wilderness store. By the way.

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<v Speaker 5>We built this in my head we were in the

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<v Speaker 5>Wilderness Store all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>We built this in a wilderness store a lot, but

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<v Speaker 4>not as much as I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this being in like every episode. Well it has.

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<v Speaker 4>Been in episodes, it's just their shorter scenes. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>that's what the Wilderness Store that much. So you in

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<v Speaker 4>your time there, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Only in the Wilderness Store. So you was in the

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<v Speaker 3>Wilderness Store.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I must feel like it's such a big

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<v Speaker 5>part of it. Yeah, that's gonna be that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like yours. Yeah, that's I think. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is her last episode, huh Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we've got Mark Arnold is Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got almost one hundred and fifty credits to his name,

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<v Speaker 1>including Teen Wolf.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked to him all week about Teen Wolf.

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<v Speaker 4>We were just peppering him with questions all week about

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<v Speaker 4>Team Wolf. We used to quote that movie constantly on

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<v Speaker 4>the set. So when he walked on, we saw him

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<v Speaker 4>at the table read you and I stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like, it's a bad guy from teen Wolf.

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<v Speaker 2>The bad guy from Tea Wolf. It was so much

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<v Speaker 2>fun talking to him about everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he also like Gary in this episode, yes, perfect,

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, dude, like Alfad. Oh yeah, he looks like

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<v Speaker 4>he's forty years old. The bad guy in the basketball

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<v Speaker 4>team and Team Wolf. It's so great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also in Justice League, Blade Runner twenty forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and fifty two episodes of a nineteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>show called Santa Barbara. Also, I have been reminded that

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<v Speaker 1>when Hillary Tuck was on the show, she said she

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<v Speaker 1>was only allowed to do three episodes because after that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be considered a recurring guest.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, right, she said that didn't shit, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>just cut it off.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just like, you can't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, unless they unless the network or the whole team

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<v Speaker 4>was willing to commit to a bigger page.

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<v Speaker 1>It also makes me wonder how much they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get around that by having people come back as

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<v Speaker 1>different characters. If they were like, look, if we name

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<v Speaker 1>them something different, we can say they'd only done one episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but no.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that would have because Hillary was different characters.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's what I'm saying, But I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>they were thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Of, let's name her something different.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can get around it by naming them different things,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is. It does seem weird that, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you have the same person play three different characters, it

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<v Speaker 1>still counts as a recurring guest role even though those

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<v Speaker 1>characters have still only done one episode.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>And you also, I guess if you I guess my

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<v Speaker 5>question then, especially with Lannie, is you know this is

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<v Speaker 5>her last episode?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not wrap it up where she leaves. Why isn't

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<v Speaker 4>the b the storyline I'm leaving Eric, I'm in a

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<v Speaker 4>powerful need to go home or something.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have.

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<v Speaker 4>Known that it's her last episode. I think maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they could have been hoping to convince the network to

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<v Speaker 4>give them more money for maybe or some you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's always this tension between the production budget and the

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<v Speaker 4>realities of the creative whims of the writing staff, and

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<v Speaker 4>the writing staff might have been like, we love Lonnie,

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<v Speaker 4>we want to bring her back, and then they're looking

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<v Speaker 4>at the budget and saying well, then you can't have

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<v Speaker 4>this said, or you can't have this trip to Disney World,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, whatever the considerations are. It's a constant conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>And but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the writers

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<v Speaker 4>were hoping to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>It open a little bit. Yeah, you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 1>So jumping into our recap, we start on our credits,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we are in the school hallway. Corey proudly

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<v Speaker 1>opens the school newspaper to show Sean his very own column. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed here that the back reads Patriot Sports, which

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<v Speaker 1>means we are most like the Patriots, the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, did you guys notice our eyebrows?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is. I say, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Wrote down something strange with your faces, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what it was. They decided because you know, during

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<v Speaker 4>the week, we did makeup tests to become the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the women like the girl characters, and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Trip, they pluck both of our eyebrows. That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it's so funny to watch when we start

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<v Speaker 4>the episode, we have like manicured eyebrows, especially for me,

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<v Speaker 4>like I have, you know, gigantic eyebrows, and like even

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<v Speaker 4>back then, I had bushy eyebrows and so yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>they're like super thin and like and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>something's oh, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What I said. I didn't know what it was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what's different? You see it in the classroom

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm like leaning forward to Chorea, I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on? Eyebrows?

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<v Speaker 3>Notice?

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<v Speaker 2>I totally did is different?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we also should have noticed all of the all

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<v Speaker 1>of the trash cans say patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't ask me how we.

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<v Speaker 4>Missed this all this time, but just because we're staring

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<v Speaker 4>at the blood drive sign all the time, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sean reads the headline is it just me? Corey

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<v Speaker 1>nudges him to read on is it just me? Or

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<v Speaker 1>does paste not taste as good as it used to?

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<v Speaker 1>Corey laughs? Isn't that so true? Sean breaks the news.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea that this is what Corey is writing, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I also love that we have made so many Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>references on the show that now they've just taken the like,

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<v Speaker 1>what does Seinfeld do? He notices every man things. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal with? Yeah, what's the deal with? And so

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<v Speaker 1>this is Corey's I just it's so funny, isn't it true.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just me? It's just so funny to me.

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<v Speaker 3>So Sean breaks the news.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you really believe in your little humor column,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't you think you should be writing something more

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<v Speaker 1>important like the girls swim team and why they don't

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<v Speaker 1>wear high heels, which I thought was a funny Sean

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<v Speaker 1>thing to say. And then to Panga walks down the

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<v Speaker 1>hall with her good bestest friend Debbie.

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<v Speaker 3>We know so much about lots of.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Debbie is also there.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, so she comments, Gary took you to Leon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really expensive the restaurant. They might as well just

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<v Speaker 4>call it the French restaurant exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Debbie laughs, Yeah, I know it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>The date was going great, but at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the night he parked two blocks from her house, and

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<v Speaker 1>to Panga angrily folds her arms Octopus time on cue.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary walks past the girls and turns to Debbie. He

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<v Speaker 1>says he had a really nice night the other night

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<v Speaker 1>and adds a little laugh before walking away. Debbie finishes

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<v Speaker 1>her story all over me, what happened to the nice

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<v Speaker 1>guy I had dinner with? All guys are jerks on dates?

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<v Speaker 1>Tapanga corrects her, not all guys. Debbie Corey, who's listening nearby,

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<v Speaker 1>puts his hand to his chest. He knows she's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about him. Sean bursts his bubble. Is it just me

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<v Speaker 1>or should you not be proud of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Got some learning to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Corey wipes the smile off his face and tries

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<v Speaker 1>to act cool. Debbie, who I just noticed in this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>has a very cool jungle themed trapper keeper. Her folder

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<v Speaker 1>is a nice, awesome time capsule from the nineties, just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>She's continuing to talk to Tapanga after a night of

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<v Speaker 3>fighting them off. I don't know if I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on dates anymore, she jokes, She'd rather spend her

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<v Speaker 1>nights at the library. It's that pathetic to Panga agrees,

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<v Speaker 1>guys and girls have such a different idea of what

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<v Speaker 1>a date is supposed to be. Debbie, he wonders what

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<v Speaker 1>goes on in guy's heads and to peg emotions towards

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<v Speaker 1>Corey and Sean want to find out there's two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So Debbie asks Corey and Sean what goes on in

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<v Speaker 1>their heads? And Corey immediately answers to Penga twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day, it's the Tapega channel in here.

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<v Speaker 3>To Pega hands him a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>What a good boy. Corey giggles at the reward. Sean asks,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think that guys and girls are looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the same things on dates? Debbie tells them what girls

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<v Speaker 1>are looking for a good conversation and a good sense

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<v Speaker 1>of connection. Sean wonders, you're not interested in making out,

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<v Speaker 1>and Debbie responds, maybe I am, and maybe I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>but it shouldn't be expected. Sean argues, then, how are

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<v Speaker 1>we supposed to know? What's okay? Debbie ensures him they'll

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<v Speaker 1>let the boy know, but usually boys don't listen. They're

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<v Speaker 1>too busy planning their next move to hear their dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Say no, Sean, who of course wasn't listening, asks.

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<v Speaker 2>Jan what this is great dialogue?

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<v Speaker 3>So great?

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<v Speaker 5>This is really good because it is also genuinely the

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<v Speaker 5>boy asking the girl how am I supposed to know?

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<v Speaker 2>And don't you want the same things? And it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't be expected. It's just really really smart dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>all the way around.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really smart because I love that they didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it seem like, of course girls aren't interested in making out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like exactly, actually, yeah, I might totally want to

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<v Speaker 1>make out with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Love the exposition getting to like the debate between Shawn

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<v Speaker 4>and Debbie. But once Shawn and Debbie get into it,

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<v Speaker 4>I like it. Like that's what I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>because but all this the preamble of like setting it up,

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<v Speaker 4>it just felt like expositional setup. But once we get

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<v Speaker 4>into this argument, I was like, this is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this conversation is great.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a real conversation. And and yes, she has

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<v Speaker 4>given so much good like argument. You know, yes, she's

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<v Speaker 4>provided with it's so great. She's not a foil. She's

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<v Speaker 4>actually like a has a point of view and is nuanced,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a good argument. Like it's a good yet

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<v Speaker 4>that people can still have.

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<v Speaker 5>It's different than a lot of the way that the

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<v Speaker 5>girls are written on the show. She came in with

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<v Speaker 5>her own point of view, like you knew this girl away.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey points out, this is why I write my funny column,

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<v Speaker 1>to take us away from the drudgery of interesting conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, but the only thing I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>during during the beginning of part of the scene was

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<v Speaker 5>how And I get why they couldn't do it for

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<v Speaker 5>Girl Meets World, But you think, how interesting, what what? No,

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<v Speaker 5>how interesting Corey would have been had he been a journalist, And.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot how much they set that up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and I know they had to do it because

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<v Speaker 5>they needed the new mister Feenie, and they did it

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<v Speaker 5>for Girl Meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>But Corey as a journalist, I think could have been

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<v Speaker 2>a really interesting way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>To peg A counters that he should be writing about

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<v Speaker 1>something that affects people. Debbie agrees Corey should write a

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<v Speaker 1>column about why guys are such big jerks on dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean asks, if this is how she feels about guys,

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<v Speaker 1>why even go on dates at all? She contemplates for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, then agrees, you're right. I'm done to Panga

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<v Speaker 1>watches her walk away Way to be sensitive Sean. Sean

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<v Speaker 1>rolls his eyes, really pays to be honest with a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and slams the newspaper into Corey's chest as everyone storms away. Corey,

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<v Speaker 1>now alone in the hall, says aloud, is it just me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it just me? And then we are in

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenie's classroom. Poenie is lecturing about the book Black Like Me,

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<v Speaker 1>written by John Howard Griffin.

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<v Speaker 4>A like man, you have a black background actor. But

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<v Speaker 4>one of the first times in the classroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that too.

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<v Speaker 4>There are two this scene. But it's just like, what okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, thank you producers of Boy Mets World, because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, somebody looked out and was like.

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<v Speaker 2>They're talking about black like me. We should probably not

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<v Speaker 2>have an all lily white.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Philadelphia in philip at a public school in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 4>all white people, not an African American in the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Until then we talk about black like me. I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always nice with the book reference.

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<v Speaker 5>There's something very comforting about Feenie teaching a book that's

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<v Speaker 5>going to have something to do with the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Just very classic boy. I love it every time.

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<v Speaker 1>So the white man, John Howard Griffin had his skin

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<v Speaker 1>temporarily darkened so he could experience life through the perspective

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<v Speaker 1>of a black man. Corey wonders while seated next to

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<v Speaker 1>those two black background actors who have no lines, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it have been easier to just ask.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the guys in the background like shakes says.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, guy, I know, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Phoene explains there was so much distrust between the races,

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin felt that he could only understand segregation if he

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<v Speaker 1>experienced it himself. Sean, then hit with an idea, says,

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<v Speaker 1>this should be Corey's next story. To understand girls, Corey

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<v Speaker 1>needs to experience the world from a girl's point of

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<v Speaker 1>view by becoming one. Corey scoffs that's crazy talk, but

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<v Speaker 1>Seawan insists, no, you dress up like a girl and

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<v Speaker 1>write about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Chick like me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean says, it would be a meaningful article, not just

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<v Speaker 1>some silly column. Corey argues, it's not a silly column. Peoene,

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<v Speaker 1>who apparently has been listening the whole time, chimes in, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, which I love. Corey asks Feeney what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to Griffin after he wrote his book? And Phoene responds,

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<v Speaker 1>he sold five million copies in one immediate world renown.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you ask, mister Matthews? Corey corrects him Miss Matthews.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean and Corey grinn mischievously the plan has begun.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then doesn't Phoene say like what he like?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like?

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't he hear the whole conversation? If he if he's

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<v Speaker 4>able to jump in, he would have heard the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's over a foot away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we know how sound word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the sound works on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're over a foot away is fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 5>story exactly, bingo.

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<v Speaker 4>Face sing. You can hear every right, then that person

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<v Speaker 4>is overhearing. Or if they're behind there, behind me, aren't

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<v Speaker 4>they that's the other face.

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<v Speaker 3>That's another time when that works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that works then too.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we're at the Wilderness store.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric is price tagging items behind the counter while Lonnie's

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<v Speaker 1>rattling off some selling points for an available tent. But

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<v Speaker 1>the male customer just stares back at her and says,

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<v Speaker 1>in the tone of a local people tom, I'll remember

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<v Speaker 1>who sold it to me. Lonnie loves to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you do. That way you can remember me

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<v Speaker 1>for all your future wilderness needs.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm making really bizarre faces in the background. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>doing some some serious facting bizarre faces. Yes, that's me bizarre,

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<v Speaker 5>like wow, bizarre, but yeah, there's some serious facting going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I didn't notice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's here's a well it's bizarre and wow, we both

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<v Speaker 2>get him in.

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<v Speaker 5>But yes, it's really just trying to put it all

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<v Speaker 5>out there on the face when I have no lines.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, speaking of I forgot to mention, did you guys

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<v Speaker 4>notice the cake face in the previous scene? Yes, the

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<v Speaker 4>kid he does cake he does cake face, and it

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<v Speaker 4>would have been written into the script.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget what the exchange is, but he's in the

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<v Speaker 2>classroom and gets at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>It's how he ends the scene where it's like miss right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I think Phoene says something back to him,

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<v Speaker 4>like questioning him, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>He does this, he does cake face, and it would

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<v Speaker 2>have been in the script at the point where, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to find the drafts. So you were making

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<v Speaker 2>some weird faces. That's it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just to go back and watch really strange faces

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<v Speaker 5>in the background that kind of had to do with

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<v Speaker 5>what they were.

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<v Speaker 1>But truth be told, what you have to do something

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're cutting to you for reaction shots.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just kidding, Like, m it's a lot, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of acting. A lot of this is a bummer, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I think that this storyline could have been done, like

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<v Speaker 4>the idea that she is not great with men, and

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<v Speaker 4>in particular city men, or like more sophisticated Philadelphia men

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<v Speaker 4>without Southern accents, Like that's like, that's actually a cool storyline,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's so it's so absurd. I feel I feel

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<v Speaker 4>sorry for this actress because it's so ridiculous that she

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<v Speaker 4>like what like literally can't know and it's they have

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<v Speaker 4>to push it so far.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I'm like, why why not?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not find the nuanced version, especially in a script

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 4>that does have such.

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<v Speaker 2>Nuance in the argumentation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in the other side, you know, in the a storyline,

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<v Speaker 4>it's wonderful and everybody's given good arguments besides Gary maybe,

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<v Speaker 4>but like everybody has a cool point of view, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, yeah, this one just it didn't didn't work,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's I just don't know why it had to

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<v Speaker 4>be such a joke. It could have been great, Like

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<v Speaker 4>what if Eric and her like really like what dating

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<v Speaker 4>advice really was some something that Eric could give and that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, rather than it just being what ends up

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<v Speaker 4>being a physical joke, like she touches him and he

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<v Speaker 4>gets turned on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's very easily would have given her such

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<v Speaker 1>good advice. She immediately has a boyfriend and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's like, I do that exactly, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>could have had her all to myself, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>just let her keep me, you know, like so yeah, anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy then nervously asks, you probably get this a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but would you want to get a cup of coffee sometime.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonnie admits she's not much of a coffee drinker, and

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<v Speaker 1>the man takes the hint, but Lonnie perks up, we

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<v Speaker 1>could do something else. He then quickly responds, slightly desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that would be great, Lonnie says, Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>come over to my place and I'll cook you a

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<v Speaker 1>big old dinner. How about tonight we could wrestle. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be wow. Lonnie smiles and hits him in the shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>I'llow what she did to Eric, and after dinner that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the real fun starts. He's a bit taken aback,

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<v Speaker 1>but still says I'm always up for a little fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonnie tells him the plan. We'll rub oil all over

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<v Speaker 1>our bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>He nods, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She continues, go jumping in the cold river and go

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<v Speaker 1>eel grabbing. He's caught off guard, but Lonnie's excited. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so fun for the eels too, well, unless their heads

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<v Speaker 1>break off and there's a river you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Never heard very.

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<v Speaker 5>Grabbing river spot eel grabbing Allo, it's down by the crek'

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<v Speaker 5>oh it is Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows out doors lack Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>She punches him in the arm again. Now it stings.

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<v Speaker 1>She asks what time tonight and he backs away. Tonight's

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<v Speaker 1>really not good for me. I've got another appointment, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually doesn't involve eels.

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<v Speaker 3>She jokes, where's your sense of adventure?

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<v Speaker 1>He responds, I'll just take the tent, establishing she is

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<v Speaker 1>not hot enough for eel grabbing. We've now hit we've

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<v Speaker 1>hit the line.

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<v Speaker 2>So the best best women are men, but not too much.

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<v Speaker 1>He changes his mind. You know what, you keep the tent.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm going to do is leave. He darts out,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lonnie calls after him.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just trying to be friendly. Lonnie hangs her

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<v Speaker 3>head and asks Eric if something is wrong with.

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<v Speaker 2>Her from the audience, Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>When it happened, I did.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, and I was like, okay, writers write in the

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<v Speaker 5>sense there is no need for that. There's no need

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<v Speaker 5>for her in any way, shape or formed for this

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 5>this one.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's always an awe because it's our second or

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<v Speaker 4>third take.

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<v Speaker 2>Knows that they're supposed to feel to steal back, you contribute,

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, yeah, that's true. Now that's true.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 4>It never feels like, it never feels earnest, it never

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 4>feels honest. I always like the obligatory. Let me tell

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 4>let the.

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<v Speaker 2>Audience help tell you the story. Right now, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel Lonnie hangs her head and asks Eric if something

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>is wrong with her. Eric is scanning her up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>not saying anything. She asks again, and he explains.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking. She wonders, why am I always scaring boys off?

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Eric asks, you don't have a lot of social experience

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<v Speaker 1>with men, do you? She says no, not with city

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<v Speaker 1>men at least. He asks if she dated any guys

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<v Speaker 1>up in the mountains, and she says, sure. We go

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<v Speaker 1>out to the woods and shoot things. Well, when you

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<v Speaker 1>see a cute, little fuzzy animal that you like and

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<v Speaker 1>I love, will that you were able to fit in

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<v Speaker 1>there a sense that you don't really like hunting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I that you want to you see a

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<v Speaker 4>cute anile that you want to kill? Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>great one. And this whole little like ron I do

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<v Speaker 4>really like you know, like, yeah, you have potential a

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<v Speaker 4>cartoon for you to see this speech, which is really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 4>And it also, you're right, it absolutely had potential to

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<v Speaker 4>be a possible good earn his storyline. It's also it's

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 4>also Eric could have gone the route of Okay, I

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 4>can tell she's not interested in me, but she's miserable

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 4>being alone.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I really can't help as a friend. You know,

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 5>you could have gone that route too, and it just instead,

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<v Speaker 5>you're right, it just wanted to end with her looking

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<v Speaker 5>for a tag and me getting turned.

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<v Speaker 4>Off speky and Soorcel moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, it's like elixir slipping, the elixir of the magical.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 5>It's like, come on, just it could have it could

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<v Speaker 5>have been cool to.

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<v Speaker 2>Just be a friend in this moment. Yeah, it's interesting they.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 4>Never decided to have Eric actually like all you do,

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 4>you're you flirt with her, you pine after her, but

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 4>like you don't actually make them Like it would have

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 4>been interesting if Eric actually fell for Lonnie or like

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 4>pursued a real relationship.

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 2>They always just kind of go for the joke and

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the sex thing, which.

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 4>They never did in seven in seven seasons with Eric,

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 4>they never once had him pursue an actual relationship. Well,

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 4>I thought the single out episode sort of ended with

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 4>a pretty positive.

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, yeah, positive for him. Eric's gonna actually like

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>this person, yeah seriously.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think hopefully down the line, there's one or

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 4>two other guest stars in the house. I guess that

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 4>you were but that yeah, but you were pursuing her

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 4>in a real way, whereas this.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Is just like right right, that's my Eric, no respect Eric.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Eric wants to know when you see a cute, little

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<v Speaker 1>fuzzy animal that you, you know, want to shoot, do you

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>go running up to it yelling and waving your rifle

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in the air, Eric asks, Lonnie laughs no, because it'll

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>scare the critter off. Ah, she's figured out her problem.

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, my behavior is scaring these citymen. Eric whispers

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>just a smidge. Lonnie realizes she needs to learn to

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>hunt and track these boys, but she's going to need

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a city man to practice on. Eric lets out a

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>goofy giggle as she stares at him. And then we're

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>in the Matthew's kitchen. Alan appears to be doing taxes.

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>He's like got a calculator. Who knows what business He's

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>got on the table.

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 2>It's Wilderness Store, receipts.

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>That's true, the receivable and payable, Yes.

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Amy workship and tense.

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<v Speaker 1>That week, ye, Corey and Sean walk in holding bags

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>from Samantha's Secret. Alan asks Corey how his day was,

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>but Corey quickly blows by him and heads to the stairs.

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Alan yells, hold on. Every day I ask you what

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you did, and every day you tell me nothing. We

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>both know something happened today, and I want to know.

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 3>What it is.

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Corey sighs, I decided to be a girl. Alan stares

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>at him blankly. You taught me a very valuable lesson there, son.

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Sean asks, Samy, you know the book Black Like Me.

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>A stressed Alan butts in, don't ask any questions, honey.

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Sean explains Corey's gonna write chick Like Me for the

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.760
<v Speaker 1>school newspaper. He's going to experience life through a girl's

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>point of view by dressing up as a girl, and

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we reveal Corey holding up a cute red mini dress.

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Alan admits, no, don't want you to. Amy defends it.

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a wonderful learning experience. It could serve him well

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of his life, and Corey holds up

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>another dress. Amy pulls out a bra out of another

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>shopping bag, and Corey explains it's a miracle bra. Alan

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>sarcastically says, it's a miracle bra. Honey, get a camera, Corey.

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not dressing up like a girl just for the

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>sake of dressing up like a girl. I'm a journalist.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Dag nabbot, And the dag nabbot is the dag nabt

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>dag navity the line, Yeah, it's the line reading that

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you guys something, do you mind cross

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.720
<v Speaker 4>dressing funny?

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 3>It was?

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to be very funny back then. Like

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean you think about you know, missus doubtfire and

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>but did.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>You ever find it funny?

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I I mean it depends on what you

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 4>were I mean, there there was a there was an

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 4>interesting way to do it. Like I go my head

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 4>instantly when you asked that went to kids in the hall.

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 4>Where the kids in the hall they were just doing

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 4>sketches where they would be the female characters, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh so you mean the actual idea of a like

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 4>character having to you know, I mean, I sound like

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 4>it hot as the ultimate example.

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just I don't it's just funny because I

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 4>remember when we did this episode. You know, obviously so

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 4>much of the joke, so many of the jokes is

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 4>look at these guys, you know, in a dress, or

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 4>look at those guys being women, And I just remember

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 4>being like, I don't.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I never found that funny.

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Like I didn't find this is a doubtfire that funny.

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 4>I never I just never was like, what's the joke?

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 4>And it's it feels it's an interesting thing. I mean,

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 4>some people still love it, right, I think it still

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 4>kind of works. Like that's the point of drag is

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 4>like a sort of performative like gender performance that is

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 4>transgressive in a way, right, Like I am crossing a boundary,

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 4>you know that I'm a man, I am dressing as

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 4>a woman to like get a laugh or a joke.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I'm so curious, Like I remember not finding

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 4>it that funny back then, but it was such a

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 4>standard joke. It was saying you always had an episode

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 4>of almost every show where a male character did this,

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 4>and then like you know, I feel like there's a

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 4>million Eddie Murphy movies where he's in a dress, you know,

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:52.760
<v Speaker 4>our serties.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 5>It's like but you go you can go back to

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 5>some incredible films, Like you said, something like a Hot

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 5>or TUTSI is another great example of I think if

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 5>it depends on what the character's doing and what the

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 5>characters learning as they're doing that, Like again, exactly what

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 5>you're doing in Chick like Me, exactly what Sean is doing.

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 5>There's there's jokes wrapped in to the story of what

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 5>you're actually learning.

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 2>By It's a good version, definite, rightly, exactly the version, right.

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 4>But I feel like on the surface, the humor often is,

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, that's a dude in a dress, right,

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Like that's the joke is like to just laugh at

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 4>like this guy we know, you know, and yeah it's

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 4>I do remember like literally doing it and being like

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 4>why is this funny? Like I don't know if this

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 4>is uh, and I just always yeah, it's never struck

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 4>me as as a joke.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's even worse actually if you take it to

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:45.959
<v Speaker 5>the level that it is, because we do it again,

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 5>Jack and I do it again in a later episode

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 5>where it's not only being a girl, it's that it

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 5>doesn't work.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Because you're a quote unquote ugly girl. Yeah, so that's

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>where it is.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 4>It's not I remember that episode being as successful as

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 4>chick like Me.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 5>No, because no, because you learn something and check like me.

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 5>There was a point to it, there is, that's the

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 5>whole idea.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 4>So great about this episode is that it actually it

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 4>takes the joke, the sort of superficial, immediate joke of

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.399
<v Speaker 4>of cross dressing and takes it to a place where

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh my gosh.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Both yes, you know, everybody's.

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 4>Learned something and experience something, and that's great.

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 5>Our episode with Jack and Eric that do that, it's

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 5>just cross dressing for the sake of the joke. Nothing

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 5>is learned, nobody grows as a person. It is simply

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 5>the joke of I look ugly in address. That's that's it,

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 5>And that's so it's I mean, it's the tale of

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 5>two things on the same show. It's that, you know,

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 5>it's the tale of what you can do and what

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 5>you shouldn't do. And I know that people love the

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 5>episode where I dress up like a woman because they

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 5>think it's funny, and if you can put that aside,

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 5>that's all it is.

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>But nobody, maybe a lot of people really do find it.

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.479
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's it's a it's a trope, right, yes,

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 4>well it's also been around for dress is whereas like

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 4>the reverse isn't quite as funny, like a well girl

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 4>dresses a guy is not. It's not as transgressive as

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 4>miracle and like. But anyway, there's just something about twentieth

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 4>century American culture that loved.

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Guys and dresses.

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Because it's also women were not allowed to act at

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 4>all back in the Elizabethan age, so it was all

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 4>it was the men were playing all the women too.

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>It's different.

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 5>But it wasn't a joke, That's what I mean. That's

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 5>what That's what I mean. It wasn't a joke. That

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 5>was they were actors playing a role, which is why

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 5>when you get Dustin Hoffman in Tutsie, he's an actor

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 5>playing a role that hearkens back to that time on stage,

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 5>like you know, like Shakespeare.

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Again, it's a story where the cross dressing is like

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 4>a funny fact outside of you know, it's.

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Not the point whereas I feel like the point of Corey.

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 4>Pulling out a brawl and the audience going is like,

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, we're gonna see you know, it's like,

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 4>isn't that hysterical?

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, then Tapega walks in and tells Sean she

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 1>may have been a bit protective of Debbie this morning,

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>preventing her from fully considering his point of view. Sean

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>proudly exclaims, I never knew I had a point of view.

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Corey says, everything's worked out for the best because he's

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>decided to be a girl and see what it's really like.

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Topanga frowns, not in a dress, You're not.

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Corey was counting on her expert assistance to help in

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>selecting the proper female accouterment. Tapanga asks, you want me

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to dress you up like a girl? Corey smiles, yeah

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>to Panga, make Corey pretty. Tapanga responds, cool, I like it.

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>It was the cool of Danielle cool.

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 5>I also like that they had Topanga coming in and

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 5>the first thing she's doing is apologizing to Sean for not.

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Listening to his point of view. Like it's a good

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 4>moment between the two of you.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 5>Whose She's like, you know what, I might I might

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 5>have dismissed you too fast this morning exactly.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's also a nice acknowledgment that you know, truthfully,

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>there is another side.

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>To this that deserves hearing as well like it.

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we've been we're having miscommunications and part of it's

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't listening to you.

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Sean has also already come you know, he's yeah,

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 4>he's come up with this project.

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 2>You walk and saying, let's do this project.

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a very mature. It's so mature all the characters.

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>So then we do a kind of optical flip to

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Corey's room. We haven't seen it for a while. We

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>get a nice look at the parking meter piggy bank

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that we remember from season one. To Penga and Sean

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>are waiting patiently for Corey outside the bathroom, when to

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Pega shouts, Sweetie, you have to come out eventually. Corey groans,

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want us second thoughts to peg It promises they

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>won't laugh. Corey assures them, you're not seeing what I'm seeing.

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Sean reminds Corey he's going to make a difference in

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the lives of guys and girls everywhere. Corey reiterates, you're

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>not seeing what I'm seeing. Sean asks how bad a

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>girl could you be? And then Corey walks out of

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom wearing a brown wig, bright red lipstick, a

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>giant bra underneath a relatively tight dress, brown tights, white

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>high heels, and long fake nails. It is a very

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>committed costume. And want to go on record as saying

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he looks that bad.

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think he looked at bad either. Well,

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah.

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 4>The irony here is that at the end of the

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 4>episode when he's Cora, he's actually the most convincing female,

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 4>the most you know, like way more convincing than I

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 4>think I am.

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's and then that.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 4>And his performance is so great, like so cool a

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 4>character like oh yeah, like I feel like I've actually

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 4>met women that talk and look like that. And Ben

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 4>is so good. So the idea that Corey can't do

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 4>it here I never quite understood. I remember even when

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 4>we were filming.

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:35.479
<v Speaker 3>It being like yeah.

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 4>But then he shows up his Cora. Why did he

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 4>choose to do Cora? And he does it so well.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it's weird, but I guess they just

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 4>needed again the joke of like gout dress and that.

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>But Ben is very funny in this scene, so funny.

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 4>I think he sells it by playing it as a

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 4>stretched out woman, which is really fun, you know, like

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 4>his mannerisms and like I think I look fat, and

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 4>like the way he holds his nails and like.

0:42:58.400 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 2>All of that.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 4>But it's also so that's all very meta, like why

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 4>would Corey be acting like that? Right, He's uncomfortable being dressed,

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, but it's it's funny.

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Whatever, It's very Do you think he didn't button up?

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>There's like two or three of the choice buttoned. I

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 2>know they had to make him that's the thing.

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 4>They had to like overstuff his bra and make it

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 4>his shoveled and because you know.

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 2>That's you know, we had to set up the storyline

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>to get me. And I couldn't tell if that was

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 2>a choice or not. I guess it was.

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>So Topanga can hardly look at him, and Sean admits, okay, bad.

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Corey asks how bad, and Sean tells him bad bad. Corey,

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>siys I knew it. I look fat, Sean says, fat

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is the least of your problems, baby. Topanga wonders, maybe

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just not a good color for you. Corey's upset,

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and he runs back toward the bathroom. Topega and Sean

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>grab him. She's confident they can do this, It's all

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 1>about how you present yourself to Panga encourages him to

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>show it off. So Corey gathers himself and starts strutting

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>with some sass. He snaps his hands back and forth.

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He contemplates the cat walk and asks if that was

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>all right. Shawn answers, not even on a desert island.

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Girls just glide more. You gotta kind of let it flow.

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>To Pega admits, that's right on the nose. Sean shrugs.

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Girls are my area. I like girls. Corey asks Sean

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to show him, so Sean does his own sassy glide

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and to Panga and Corey realize what needs to happen.

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Sean repeatedly says no, no, no, no, and then we

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>optical flip to the school. A rowdy guitar riff plays

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 1>as Sean is peeking out into the hallway. We see

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he's wearing some dark eye makeup, paired with red lipstick

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.959
<v Speaker 1>and a brown wig with bangs. He looks a little

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>apprehensive before stepping out in a mini skirt, gliding next

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to a very giddy Corey.

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Matthews, right, or what do you remember about this scene?

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Well, I just remember the whole week, you know,

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 4>so much attention because you know, you have to realize,

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 4>like it's written on the page that I'm supposed to

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 4>gorge gorgeous, or that you know that it works in

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 4>a way that it doesn't work for Corey. And of

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 4>course it's it's easier to sort of figure out way

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 4>is to make somebody unattractive than it is to make.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Them actually attractive.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, so I just remember so much energy

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 4>put on, like you know, I actually had tape on

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 4>my face to like pull it back obviously, lots of makeup,

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 4>the wig and then the outfit that would work.

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I remember being stressed out. I remember

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>being stressed out this week.

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I remember mostly being like you know, which is

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 4>funny because when I watched the episode, I don't feel

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 4>that stress. Actually, I feel like I'm pretty I'm really

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:42.959
<v Speaker 4>happy with my performance. I go, this might be maybe

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 4>the best.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I've done on.

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 4>Because of the cross stressing factor, because the the quick changes,

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 4>especially like in this scene, and like the ability the

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 4>way that that you know, when Sean is in character

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 4>when he's not, you know, I went to laugh with

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 4>him or when to laugh at him, and like I'm

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 4>just like I didn't realize how much I was threading

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 4>this needle as an actor, and I look back on it,

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, wow, that was mer curial, Like he

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm moving through like one look at the and I

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 4>was like, and then you know, there's just a relaxed,

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 4>like a confidence that I'm really impressed by in seventeen

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 4>year old writer. I'm just like, good, good job, dude,

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 4>this is cool. Like I don't know that many seventeen

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 4>year olds who who would have pulled this off?

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know.

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 4>Like, so for one of the first times on this podcast,

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 4>I'll say, like, I'm very proud of you.

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Should be.

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 5>You're also playing it completely and totally straight, like totally committed,

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 5>and so the comedy is just coming. You're not hitting

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 5>you're not trying to hit any joke, which is what

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 5>we do on this show.

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 2>We're trying to hit jokes all the time.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 5>The comedy is coming from the commitment of just playing

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.839
<v Speaker 5>this character, and the comedy comes naturally from the situations

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 5>that you're then in, which makes makes the laughs three

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:01.479
<v Speaker 5>times as sharp.

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, Yeah, it's great.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, when I watched the scene, I was like,

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 4>because I guess over the years, I think the sort

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 4>of popular conception of this episode, at least it has

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 4>been reflected back to.

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Me, is like, oh my gosh, you were hot, like

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 2>you were actually you know, And I looked at it

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, no, it's still still kind of

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>looks like me.

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 4>I got a big face, I got a big agree

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 4>with you. You're very like I look kind of.

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, it's it's very interesting because when

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had Lori Heaps on the show and

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Laurie was talking about what a what an undertaking it was,

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, finding the wigs and.

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 3>All of that. It's it is a hard job.

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 1>For the crew when in a script, no matter how

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>realistic it is, it just says Sean is a gorgeous woman,

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and then next to that, you know, Corey's a hideous woman.

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>It's much easier to make somebody look ugly. You can

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>add things and make them look disheveled and do all

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. It is much harder to make a

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>very you're a manly guy, you have a you have manly,

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>stereotypically manly features to now suddenly with no plastic surgery,

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 1>but just what you can you have at your fingertips

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>sell you as a convince a convincingly attractive feminine woman.

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Difficult.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 4>It's hard, yeah, yeah, And that's why I think like

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 4>Corah is actually more successful because it's character and you

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 4>can tell that, like, you know, obviously, they figured out

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 4>the hair and the thing, and then figured out an

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 4>attitude and a and a way of walking and talking

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 4>that matched the outfit, and.

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:39.479
<v Speaker 2>It becomes its own thing.

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 4>And that's way more convincing than Sean as Veronica.

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Like Veronica to me always felt a little I don't.

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Know, but but but I think that the trick is

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 4>the high boots and the short skirt. Right, we just

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 4>have to make it, yes, we have to make it

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 4>like a fast girl, a typical boy, you know. So

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 4>she's I mean, Veronica is rest like right, like a

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 4>stripper really, you know, a porn star, like if she.

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Really you know.

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.800
<v Speaker 1>So much of that is because of the colors they chose,

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>because I thought the same thing. I was looking at

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the black and the red and I was like, they

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>went for a very look at me va vavom color combo.

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if that's because they were hoping that

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that that alone would add a sexual factor that maybe

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you and more in softer colors, Maybe you looked manlier

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.720
<v Speaker 1>with with more neutral colors or something.

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 2>So did you have to do you remember?

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 5>Did you have to try on a whole bunch of

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 5>looks and a whole bunch of outfits or was it

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of just like.

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Like I said, I remember being stressed out like I

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 4>remember being I wonder how much of that stress and

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 4>anxiety was performative on my part though, you know, which

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 4>is a little bit of a bummer to think about.

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 4>But I think that I probably was, like wanted to

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 4>make everybody sure that I was. I was uncomfortable with

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 4>having to be like a woman, you know, like you know,

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 4>because do you see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 4>think seventeen year old as much just I can look

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 4>back and say, I'm I was confident in in my

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:05.959
<v Speaker 4>acting and like in the in the beat to beat,

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 4>I think there was also a part of me that,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, wanted to make sure everybody knew that like

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 4>this isn't normal for me.

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I wouldn't typically just you know, which is ridiculous,

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 2>like who gives me writer?

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 4>But but you know, I was seventeen whatever, and I

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 4>was asked, and I was, you know, frankly, like I

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 4>didn't get asked whether to do that. You know, you

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 4>just get the script and you got to do it.

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 4>So I'm sure there was a little bit of like

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 4>can I pull this off? And that insecurity fed into well,

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't want to pull this off, like I don't

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:34.319
<v Speaker 4>need to, you know, because I am such a guy,

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 4>such a I would never you know, which, you know.

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 2>But then I also.

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 4>Kind of remember that there was some acting, like there

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 4>was some fun that like, oh, you know, this is

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 4>a typical acting thing. Like you said, it goes back

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 4>to Elizabethan tradition. You should be able to play anything.

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I know, without a shadow of a doubt.

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Writer, young writer, modern day writer would have loved the

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>idea of this message, like the scripts message you were

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>hook line and sinker for, this is a message that

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>need to be told, like women need. You know, this

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.919
<v Speaker 1>is so you would have loved the point behind it,

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>while also dealing with teenage ego stuff of but it

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>makes me very uncomfortable.

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, it's equivalent to having to be in your

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 4>underwear exactly, like the way great story yes, this could

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 4>be good for the character of the storyline, but as

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 4>the actor.

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I have to actually do it.

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And that's what I remember feeling mostly with this

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 4>episode was that anxiety of like, this is I have

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 4>to pull this off. I have to go through makeup

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.319
<v Speaker 4>for four hours. I have to try on. Like you said,

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember, but I'm sure I tried it on

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 4>more reading different outfits before they were like, this is

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 4>the right combination.

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Because it is, it's tricky. How do you sell it

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:49.760
<v Speaker 2>but also make it obvious?

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.800
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, but anyway, going back when I saw this scene,

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.320
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I don't I'm not that convinced.

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 2>And I'm also just I don't think I'm that attractive.

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 4>But whatever, it's it's funny and the point is there,

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I guess compared to Corey, it's it's great,

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Sean nervously asks Cory why everyone's staring at him. Corey admits,

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to take this the wrong way,

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>but you're kind of a babe. Sean's excited to hear this.

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Corey even offers to carry his books. Sean's down, that's cool.

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>They walk over to Topanga and she asks why Corey's

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 1>carrying Sean's books, and he explains, we're trying to create

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the illusion that Sean's a girl, so I thought this

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 1>would help. Topenga says he never carries her books, and

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Corey says, well, look at him, and sheepishly smiles.

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 3>The inmates in the audience love it.

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 2>They did. They were very on board.

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 1>They are laughing and Tapanga eyes Cory up and down.

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Funny book. I give.

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 4>It's such a like it's it's so interesting to see

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 4>how much this was on the heels of an affair

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 4>to Yes, you know, it's like this sort of and

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 4>I wonder how long I'm going to really enjoy it.

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm enjoying this now, but like, I know, we do

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.240
<v Speaker 4>the gay joke a lot, you know, like the Corey

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 4>Sean and it's like walking then you know here it's

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 4>very funny because it's like you know, but yeah, I'm

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 4>curious how many episodes in I'm going to be able

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.359
<v Speaker 4>to like think this is great but it's very funny. Now.

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Corey covers and look at you. You were just

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 1>radiant today. Topanga, always the ally how asks how it

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 1>feels for Sean to be wearing pantyhose. He reminds her

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:24.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not Sean. He needs a girl's name. Corey offers Janet,

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>but Sean turns it down to Pega. Senses there's more here.

0:53:27.960 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>You've thought about this before, haven't you. Sewan admits a little.

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>The name he likes is Veronica. Corey turns to Tapanga

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 1>in horror, but Tapanga responds encouragingly, Veronica is a lovely name.

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<v Speaker 1>Right then mister Feeney walks up to the group. Good morning,

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Miss Laurence, mister Matthews, mister Hunter, and then he stops.

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Dead iness tracks Beeanie looks up to the sky and

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>shakes his head in dismay. He turns to Veronica and

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>smiles awkwardly. If there's anything you need to talk about,

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>my door is always open. I'm not here to judge.

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 5>So now I loved it, but I had a thought,

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 5>do you think it? I mean, there's two ways to

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 5>look at it. You can never fool Feenie. He's gonna

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 5>he'll always know no matter what. But the other way

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 5>to look at it is that people would be able

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 5>to recognize that it's Sean right away.

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't you know, I didn't know if.

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 4>It's interesting, it should have come after somebody else.

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Exactly the same thing.

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 4>It shouldn't have started with the first persons recognizing him.

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>He's just so used to seeing the three of us together.

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 1>He said the three names.

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I read it as always knows.

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I got to But I thought, if

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:44.799
<v Speaker 4>it's shakes his head, it's brilliant. But if just one

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 4>person first saw it, like like acknowledge that Veronica was

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Veronica before then Foenie comes in and says Sean Hunter.

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 5>I think it would have made it stronger because when

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 5>the first person addresses as Sean, my head instantly went to, oh,

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 5>then the this guy's never going to work everybody, you know,

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 5>everybody's going to know him.

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 4>I would love to see the script for this. Do

0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 4>you think you have a copy of Chicken? I'm gonna

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 4>I was just thinking, I want I'll look through everything

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 4>I want to see if I'm curious about I just want

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.879
<v Speaker 4>to know this is like the second or third time

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 4>this has come up. I really want to know what

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 4>the stage direction said, like, what did you say for Bill?

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:21.839
<v Speaker 2>What did you say?

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Did Feeney stop roll his eyes like it's not rolling

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 4>that because like what Bill does is just like a

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:31.360
<v Speaker 4>prayer to heaven? Like what do you call that? Little

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 4>like desperate? Like I can't believe I have to deal

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 4>with this.

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 4>I would love to see how that was actually if it.

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 5>Was, because don't you remember Kevin Calton saying that he

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 5>he one time puts something in for a stage direction.

0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:44.919
<v Speaker 2>For Bill and Bill.

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is how to say your actual life? This

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 4>would have been a beat on the page with the

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 4>action line. And I'm so curious what it said, like

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I just because however, you know, I don't know. However,

0:55:57.400 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 4>as a writer, I'm curious what it said because it's

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.359
<v Speaker 4>so cool. Yeah, and then also as a as an

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:05.799
<v Speaker 4>actor and appreciate someone who appreciates Bills acting. If it's

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 4>not there, what you know what he brought to it

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 4>as an actor, I'm so curious.

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's great.

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>So Sean clarifies it's for an article we're writing. Phoene

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>reminds them I am not here to judge and walks away.

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Corey notices their target. Gary is approaching Tapenga says to him,

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Debbie said, you two went out on Saturday that Gary

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>notices Veronica and is distracted.

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 4>This look man, his ability with his eyes to just

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.959
<v Speaker 4>go hey, hey, hey, he plays a great creed.

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 2>He does plays a great creed. It's his locked down

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to the new girls. Yep, so good.

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Hi there, I'm Gary, Corey excitedly introduces Veronica. Veronica was

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Boyski was Boyski. Gary kicks some game. I've never seen

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you before you knew in school. Veronica laughs, Yep, I'm

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>just a whole new person. I do like your womanly voice.

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Writer. Yeah, it's not too overdone.

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Really well, I don't know. I mean, I don't. I don't, Yeah,

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I felt a little uncommitted. It's like I

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 2>felt like I was done.

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>If it had been over the top, it wouldn't have

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>been good. It's so subtle, subtle and just just delicately

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>feminine enough enough that it's it works. I really think

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>had it been over the top with the way you look,

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I also would have been like, Nope, I can't, I

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 1>can't buy it. But it really worked, And I think

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the reason it worked for me is because of your voice.

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 3>So I think it was a good choice.

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Gary offers to take her to Chubby's tell her what

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 1>teachers to avoid all of that stuff, but then adds,

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, unless your boyfriend already did that. Corey interrupts again, No, Gary,

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>this one is definitely available. Veronica shoes him away. Corey,

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I can speak for myself. That'd be great to hang

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 1>abouts in. So Saturday is that good for both of you?

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Sean reminds her under his breath, Saturday is my date night.

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Corey exclaims it still is.

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 4>And this is one of those moments where I was like,

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 4>that's so good. You just ought to John the coach

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:13.800
<v Speaker 4>switching that Sean is doing.

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:16.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, it's really well done.

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:18.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm so curious, Like going back just a second, I

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 4>wonder where this episode fell in the right I can't

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 4>wait to talk to Steve Hibbert, Like who came up

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 4>with this? Like why, Like I wonder if they watched

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 4>An Affair to Forget and we like, let's let's push

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 4>it even further, right, you know, like the way that

0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 4>because because I reminded just right now and when when

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:39.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing the female the Veronica, it's very similar to

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:42.480
<v Speaker 4>the way I was like Corey, you know, like laughing

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 4>at like they're shy, the shy like, and so I

0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 4>wonder if that was the inspiration, Like the writers were like,

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 4>oh we could, we could just push this even further

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:54.240
<v Speaker 4>into Yeah, that's funny.

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, we can't wait to talk town.

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.439
<v Speaker 1>We got to see And then Veronica smiles at Gary

0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:00.919
<v Speaker 1>and agrees to Saturday. Gary so he'll see her then,

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and gives her a wink as he leaves. Corey and

0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Tapanga congratulate John. He's got a date.

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 3>John's nervous. I have nothing to wear, and I love this.

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 3>I love how now it's just so quickly.

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 1>All of the fears and all of the anxieties about

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 1>being a woman, the insecurities just and.

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 5>All your mannerisms were like, well, it were perfect at

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 5>the time. You're like fiddling with your fingers.

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:23.479
<v Speaker 2>And ran around.

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 3>It's really well done.

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:26.960
<v Speaker 1>We go to a commercial break and then we come

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>back at the Wilderness Store. It's now after hours. Eric

0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and Lonnie. She's back in her crop top flannel. That

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>makes so much sense. They're practicing her approach with city.

0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 2>You can be warm, but show that belly button.

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>So your boobies are warm, but your belly button is cool.

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 2>And I've got the cool sleeves rolled off as Eric

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 2>looks pretty cool.

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Eric creates a scenario where he's a guy named Dave,

0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and when Lonnie sees him at the club, she wants

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 1>him to avoid detection and stay with the hunting metaphor.

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:03.240
<v Speaker 1>She crouches down and walks slowly toward Eric, slyly, placing

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>herself right next to him at the bar. Eric tells

1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 1>her to make eye contact and smile, so she gives

1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:10.680
<v Speaker 1>him a big grin and enthusiastically says, I want that one,

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and she pokes him on the nose. Eric admires her

1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:16.640
<v Speaker 1>single mindedness, but no, he says that if she gives

1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy a compliment.

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 3>He will be hers for the rest of her life.

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Apparently, what world.

1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it true of a man that if you give

1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:31.080
<v Speaker 1>him a compliment, he will be loyal to you for

1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life.

1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:34.959
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's try it. Give me a compliment right now?

1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Will you have the most gorgeous eyes?

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I love you, my god? It works it that's amazing.

1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:44.640
<v Speaker 4>Do you think, Well, I don't know the loyalty, but

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 4>I do think that like when you say that, like

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:52.720
<v Speaker 4>guys like to have their egos. Oh, that's more than

1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 4>because the opposite, like with women, like the sort of

1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:02.000
<v Speaker 4>uh pick up artist strategy opposite, right, the whole.

1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Like the whole why'd you wear that jacket?

1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Right? The nagging idea, right, Like that's the like traditional

1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:09.400
<v Speaker 4>advice if you want to get a guru, you gotta

1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:10.040
<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's not true.

1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Well maybe it's I don't know, does it work the

1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:15.320
<v Speaker 4>other way? You never hear about pickup artists from a

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:17.200
<v Speaker 4>female perspective. There must be some.

1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:19.120
<v Speaker 5>Because you don't need to be an artist and you

1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:21.320
<v Speaker 5>walked up and you go, yeah, hey, let's go, and

1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:23.600
<v Speaker 5>you wear a fleece crop top.

1:01:23.480 --> 1:01:27.360
<v Speaker 2>And that's jacket or exactly check.

1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:30.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, though I don't know, but I would assume just

1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:33.400
<v Speaker 4>based on my life experience. Yeah, Guys like compliments, right,

1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:35.640
<v Speaker 4>They like being told you're smart.

1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.240
<v Speaker 3>The whole idea of like, wow, you're smart.

1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:39.320
<v Speaker 1>They'll talk to you that night, sure, but then the

1:01:39.360 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 1>minute somebody else gives them a compliment, Yeah, it's like,

1:01:44.600 --> 1:01:46.600
<v Speaker 1>give us a compliment, where yours for the rest of

1:01:46.640 --> 1:01:47.080
<v Speaker 1>your life?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like what I just I always think of that

1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:51.240
<v Speaker 5>amazing line is that from when Harry met Sally where

1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:53.320
<v Speaker 5>he says women need a reason have sex, men just

1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:53.840
<v Speaker 5>need a place.

1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:56.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's true basically.

1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:58.480
<v Speaker 4>But it's also like what is her problem?

1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, like what is you want?

1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:02.960
<v Speaker 4>Because she doesn't want to man she wants to a

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 4>dude to hang out with, or she wants somebody to date.

1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I think she wants for somebody to date, but again,

1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:14.000
<v Speaker 4>would that be like really, I don't know, she's scaring

1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:17.440
<v Speaker 4>the guys off by being too man manly.

1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:20.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a right level of manliness to be the perfect woman.

1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:22.200
<v Speaker 1>She hasn't hit that yet, right.

1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:24.760
<v Speaker 5>I think it's also she think what they were trying

1:02:24.800 --> 1:02:27.880
<v Speaker 5>to do was also talk where it's more about I

1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:31.480
<v Speaker 5>think they attempted to do more about city versus country. Yes,

1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:34.000
<v Speaker 5>and really country where it's like let's go hunting and

1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:37.040
<v Speaker 5>eel grabbing, right, you knowing.

1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Also like I'm going to beat you in arm wrestling.

1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be a better shot than you. I'm

1:02:40.960 --> 1:02:43.840
<v Speaker 1>going to wrestle eels like things where it's like, wow,

1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you you are really like the manliest bro I could

1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:48.600
<v Speaker 1>ever hang out with.

1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:52.760
<v Speaker 5>Right, And maybe what's interesting is the bet storyline. What

1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:55.240
<v Speaker 5>essentially they're saying, if you look at it this way,

1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:58.800
<v Speaker 5>is that to Lannie, gender doesn't matter at all.

1:02:59.120 --> 1:02:59.919
<v Speaker 2>It's all blur.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're hanging out, having a good time and doing

1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:05.800
<v Speaker 5>what you love. Where in the A storyline, gender was

1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:09.840
<v Speaker 5>very very important, so it was kind of the Yeah,

1:03:09.880 --> 1:03:11.760
<v Speaker 5>it was a weird balance between the two. Maybe you're right,

1:03:11.760 --> 1:03:13.560
<v Speaker 5>maybe that's why they did need the B storyline writers,

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<v Speaker 5>because there is that kind of balance.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wanted to see more.

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<v Speaker 4>At your point in some way, right, its like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a reverse like she has to learn how to be

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<v Speaker 4>a woman, right, she has to learn how to think

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<v Speaker 4>like a man. Yes, that's that's more. He's not trying

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<v Speaker 4>to tell her to be more feminine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he is trying to tell her you're scaring them off,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way you're starring them off is by being

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<v Speaker 1>more manly than they and they are kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of but but he's not even yeah, yeah, he's trying

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<v Speaker 4>to put her in the mindset of like how a

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<v Speaker 4>man perceives her or how a man, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like too manly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're punching me and it hurts, and your idea the

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<v Speaker 1>time shunting and wrestling eels, which like maybe I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to do with my bros, but isn't what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to spend my time with a lady friend, do it, right?

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<v Speaker 5>But They easily could have taken this storyline and gone,

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<v Speaker 5>we need to put you in a dress and you

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<v Speaker 5>need to learn.

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<v Speaker 3>How to you know, I'm glad they didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad they didn't go It wasn't Eric wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>teaching her to be more feminine, right, It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 4>you need to be more of a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just you need to tell right, your shirt's

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<v Speaker 2>too big.

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<v Speaker 4>Never came out of Eric's mountain, right, But yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>could see they could have gone that route where it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to put you in a dress. It could

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<v Speaker 4>have been that same thing, and thankfully they didn't go

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<v Speaker 4>that route.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they didn't. You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonnie touches Eric's flannel. That's the nicest shirt. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to get one for my brother Buck.

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<v Speaker 3>Who makes that?

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<v Speaker 1>Eric tells her some shirt guy, and Lonnie takes the

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<v Speaker 1>liberty of checking the tag. She's all over him trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the label, and Eric is soaking in every minute.

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<v Speaker 1>She stops herself and realizes, you know what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric dreamily responds, just what God intended. Lonnie says, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being too friendly again, and you were just about

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me that, weren't you. And the reason this

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<v Speaker 1>part doesn't really work is that her previous friend over

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<v Speaker 1>friendliness had nothing to do with being too physical.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, and she's not scaring him away, she's actually

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<v Speaker 4>drawing him.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's actually like, I know, this part didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really work. You were just about to tell me that,

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<v Speaker 1>weren't you. Eric lies, yes, Lonnie admits I never would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought that being friendly could drive people away. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess friendliness is just different between men and women. Eric

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<v Speaker 1>agrees and steps back a respectable distance, sticking out his

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<v Speaker 1>hand for a handshake. Instead, she grabs his hand and

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<v Speaker 1>politely says, my name is Lonnie Bowden, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever I can not to physically invade your personal space.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps we can discuss your career goals over a great

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<v Speaker 1>knee high. Eric gives her a fake laugh and utters.

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<v Speaker 3>What have I done? And I like this part.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea where if he could have set

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<v Speaker 1>her up with somebody, if there was some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>advice where now he was actually losing his chances with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that that part's great.

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<v Speaker 5>But instead what they did was we never see her again, right,

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<v Speaker 5>exactly so that's I do like to think that grape

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<v Speaker 5>knee high was a mash reference.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I'm hoping it has to be, because

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<v Speaker 3>what is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Grape knee Hi's a drink. Okay, you've never had greape

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<v Speaker 2>knee high? You know who love?

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<v Speaker 5>Grape knee high is rider because it's all it's a no,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a soda. It's like grape soda. But it almost

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<v Speaker 5>has the same kind of backbite as that ginger beer

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<v Speaker 5>that you like.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like a grape kind of But yeah, from.

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<v Speaker 4>Paper Moon, eat your Coney Island, drink your knee high Moon, right, No, please,

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<v Speaker 4>are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the greatest movie ever. Oh man to movie

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<v Speaker 2>for a rider? Please party? Yes, oh my god. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you will love it. I'll bring the I'll bring grape

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<v Speaker 2>knee high.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you'll bring the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Chubby's the only place a day can happen. Veronica and

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<v Speaker 1>Gary are sitting next to each other in a booth

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<v Speaker 1>near the OJ Jersey when Gary says, this has been

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<v Speaker 1>a terrific evening and you are just great.

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<v Speaker 2>On the same side of the back.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're committed again. I love how Sean is committed

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<v Speaker 5>to this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Veronica is visibly nervous, but Gary continues, how is

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<v Speaker 1>it that someone like you doesn't have a boyfriend. She laughs,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't really been looking for a boyfriend because I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Just been going through a lot of changes.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary assures her, anytime you want to talk, I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>to listen. She thanks him, admiring his kindness, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems as though he's developing a bit of a crush.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she snaps out of it. I've got to have

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<v Speaker 1>some food.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary takes charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Call that beat that and it was she gets some food,

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<v Speaker 2>I get some food. It was I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's very like, I'm not quite it's funny. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just like I'm getting caught up in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment with Yes, you're getting caught up in Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also I love that like your the Veronica slash

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<v Speaker 1>Sean thought process is like, maybe I'm feeling faint, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I need to eat, Maybe maybe I need to eat something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Corey bursts in from the kitchen, now wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a curly wig and a king waitress uniform.

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<v Speaker 3>In a husky voice, she asks how you're doing honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Topanga's at a nearby table watching on and is speechless

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<v Speaker 1>and bemused. Her eyes are popping out of her head.

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<v Speaker 4>Veronica, a little explanation like what was like?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 4>What is?

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<v Speaker 2>What is Corey's playing here?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I think just wanted to be involved, just

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<v Speaker 1>to be involved. But you're right, there's no setup, like

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<v Speaker 1>why was this necessary?

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<v Speaker 4>Just like one little like like sean to I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I do say, like Corey, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So you're insane?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? But wouldn't it be great if he was like

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<v Speaker 4>this is my research, like I have to be here? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like just some explanation of like he's

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<v Speaker 4>there to be undercover also to get the or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But instead it's just like and I guess they just

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<v Speaker 4>were like no, it's just too funny, doesn't It doesn't matter?

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<v Speaker 2>But I should have been a side with Topanga. What

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing research? That's exactly my job.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the journalist. I'm the one who has to write

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<v Speaker 4>the article. I might as well, yeah, because it is

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<v Speaker 4>weird that Shawn's doing all the undercover journalism, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>But then Corey is still going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be an easy thing to just rationalize, like I had

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<v Speaker 4>to go under cover his korra in order.

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<v Speaker 3>To be it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>They just figured that's obvious, Like we've already discussed this.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole scene of them getting dressed in the women's

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<v Speaker 1>clothes was all about I've got to do this for

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<v Speaker 1>my research.

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<v Speaker 4>But then and then Sean not knowing that he was

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<v Speaker 4>going to show up, is weird, Like right, exactly like

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<v Speaker 4>Sewan and Tapanga should be like here comes Corey in him.

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<v Speaker 1>Even at the end of the scene where you got

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<v Speaker 1>the where you got the the date, if.

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<v Speaker 3>There had just been a little bit now we hatch

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<v Speaker 3>our plan where it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like and also like what happened between Corey dressing as

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<v Speaker 4>a woman before and Corey.

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<v Speaker 3>Dressing as a woman now, that makes him think a.

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<v Speaker 4>Conversation of like, well, you can't be attractive enough to

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<v Speaker 4>be the bait, but you can't get the bait, so

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<v Speaker 4>you have to do something else in order to get

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<v Speaker 4>this article. That's all it would have taken, is like

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<v Speaker 4>one conversation like we gotta find a role.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have to go on to cover two.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll figure it out or yeah, or it's just Sean

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<v Speaker 5>ending the last scene going I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do this alone. I can't. Don't worry, you won't.

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<v Speaker 2>He won't be alone. Yeah, you won't be alone.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. Yeah, Yeah, and then not being surprised that

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<v Speaker 4>he's it's weird that I'm surprised. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you weren't surprised, I would think all of that

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<v Speaker 1>happened off screen.

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<v Speaker 3>And I buy it, And I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>In Corey rescuing me yet whatever, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Veronica whispers Corey, and he corrects her. Core Rah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be your waitress this evening. Corey remarks, I come

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<v Speaker 1>in here a lot. I've never seen you before. Chorus

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<v Speaker 1>snaps back, quit hitting on me. Just just so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>She laughs, just kidding, it's my first night.

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<v Speaker 3>She winks at Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>Veronica shakes her head and says under her breath, you're insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Cora asks to take their order. Baby Gary goes first.

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<v Speaker 1>My usual, a double chili burger and one chocolate milkshake

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<v Speaker 1>with two straws. Veronica says, I'll have the same, and

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<v Speaker 1>a steak and a steak. Aura and Gary are surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by this appetite.

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<v Speaker 4>The association of like masculinity with meat steak.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing, I like, it's not about masculinity. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all about Seawn. He's not a free meal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's to me. It was just like, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>Seawn would do.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, I mean I mean I just know,

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<v Speaker 4>having been a vegetarian for so much, it was like

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<v Speaker 4>it was an immediate opportunity for people to question my

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<v Speaker 4>masculinity or your sexuality or my sexuality erect right. Like

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<v Speaker 4>it was always like, especially in the late nineties early

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<v Speaker 4>oft it was like immediately like, oh, well you must

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<v Speaker 4>be gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you're turning into a woman, or.

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<v Speaker 4>Some joke or some teasing immediately followed the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>you're a vegetarian.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this case, it does also work for Sewan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Sean, Yeah, I mean it totally works.

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<v Speaker 4>You're trying to increase atosterone because of meat consumption. Meat,

1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:02.800
<v Speaker 4>that is true, so yeah, but it's it just struck

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<v Speaker 4>me at this. I was like, this is such a

1:12:04.400 --> 1:12:05.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of obvious, easy joke.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, but I did. I thought of it as

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<v Speaker 1>an easy Sean joke, and I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he wanted extra food like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had we had the joke about you coming

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<v Speaker 1>in when Corey and you were like, what is this

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<v Speaker 1>When he has the burger I wasn't gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's cut in half and you want to pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up and eat half of it, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it works perfectly for Sean.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like that take, but I think I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's also this extra layer of like, right, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a personal bias about it because you had been

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<v Speaker 1>through it in your life, so it struck you.

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<v Speaker 2>Corra Cora has to comment on it.

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<v Speaker 4>You got quite an appetite, like I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 4>he's eating too much for a woman, and he's eating

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<v Speaker 4>not womanly food.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the joke. As part of the joke.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand what you're saying that Sean is poor and

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<v Speaker 4>wants as much food as you can get for out

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<v Speaker 4>of this guy, But there's also another layer of like

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<v Speaker 4>that is not very seemly for being for ronic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, there's definitely commentary on the fact that women

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<v Speaker 1>would probably not consume in one meal a steak plus

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<v Speaker 1>a double chili cheeseburger. But when I felt like there's

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious joke, I actually thought that's the obvious Sean moment,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was cute. It did not in any

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<v Speaker 1>way make me think, ugh, stereotypical men eat and women

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<v Speaker 1>need to eat a salad. I didn't think that. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought cute, cute that Sean is like, yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>you have a steak. I'm at Chubby's and somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>is paying great. So Corey and Gary are surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>this appetite. Corey pinches Veronica's cheeks. Aren't you the voracious

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<v Speaker 1>little eater?

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<v Speaker 3>Corey.

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<v Speaker 1>Cora walks away, waving and mouthing hi babe to Tapanga.

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<v Speaker 1>As she passes to Panga, stares back in awe with

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<v Speaker 1>a huge smile on her face. Gary puts his arm

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<v Speaker 1>around Veronica. Are you having a good time? She admits,

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<v Speaker 1>a little trouble breathing. You're crowding me a bit. Gary

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<v Speaker 1>insists you're probably just tense. How about I rub your shoulders.

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<v Speaker 1>She uncomfortably mentions, I didn't ask you to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary brushes it off, but doesn't it feel good? Veronica

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<v Speaker 1>shoves him. You're not listening to me, Gary laughs, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a strong one. Yeah, I play a little field hockey.

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<v Speaker 3>She says.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary mentions he knew that because the first thing he

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<v Speaker 1>noticed or Veronica's legs. He slides his hand down her

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<v Speaker 1>thigh and Veronica immediately jumps up.

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<v Speaker 3>She yells, you just don't listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You're too busy planning your next move to hear us

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<v Speaker 1>say no, He pulls the same move Sean did earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode, not listening what. Veronica grabs her purse

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<v Speaker 1>and storms away. Kora stops her and asks, now in

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<v Speaker 1>Corey's voice, what happened? Sean breaks character, he touched me

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<v Speaker 1>on my knee? What makes him think that that it's

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<v Speaker 1>his knee? To Pega wonders, well, maybe you sent him

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<v Speaker 1>a signal, and Seawan argues, the only signal I sent him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's amazing between the three of us, and like the

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<v Speaker 4>way that we're able to have.

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<v Speaker 2>The it's just believable.

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<v Speaker 4>And yet it's perfectly to the debate that started the episode,

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<v Speaker 4>and it feels like Cory and I mean, Topanga and

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<v Speaker 4>Sean are seeing each other's point. It's just great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and Pega is also challenging him in a really

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<v Speaker 5>interesting way, like, well, maybe sent a signal?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he can that she doesn't. She doesn't like that

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<v Speaker 1>all the time accusatory.

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<v Speaker 4>She's letting him draw it out very intelligently, so he

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<v Speaker 4>has to come to those own.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great, it's great, Sean argues.

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<v Speaker 1>The only signal I sent him was to stop it

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<v Speaker 1>to Panga points out, and he didn't listen. Sean explains,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like that and I never will be again.

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<v Speaker 4>Right before a really nice little revision that Sean makes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like this micro it's like, I'm not like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and then realizing like, oh my god, I might have been.

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<v Speaker 3>I may realize it.

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<v Speaker 4>I may have been, like I'm not all and so

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<v Speaker 4>he makes the sort of immediate adjustment.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't he say it twice? Which I think is even better.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't he say I'm not like that, I'm not I'll

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<v Speaker 5>never be like that again. And it's the second I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not that just sold the whole thing for me, where

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<v Speaker 5>it's like now he's first he just says it because

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<v Speaker 5>he's it's a knee jerk reaction, well I'm not like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and then it's trying to convince yourself right, and then

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<v Speaker 5>it's the realization that maybe I was.

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<v Speaker 2>And it all happens that fast. It's great, so well done.

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, like one, that's only three seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, awesome, And then right before Gary walks up, Sean

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<v Speaker 1>wants to quit, but Corey reminds them they have an

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<v Speaker 1>article to finish. Sean's eye, I should have worn a

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<v Speaker 1>pant suit, which great, gosh, it's so great. Then Gary arrives.

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<v Speaker 1>Look sorry, I got a little aggressive. Nobody respects women

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<v Speaker 1>more than me.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, Like I love my mother.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never be any guy ever, said.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have the mom, I have it. Shut up,

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<v Speaker 2>but has nothing to do with exact women.

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<v Speaker 4>You're actually attracted to her inner relationship like stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop, nobody respects women more than me. You forgive me.

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<v Speaker 1>Chorus speaks on her behalf. Of course she forgives you.

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<v Speaker 1>You two are just adorable together. Gary extends and offered

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<v Speaker 1>to Veronica, how about I teach you how to play foosball?

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<v Speaker 1>She smirks, how about I teach you? She glides away

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<v Speaker 1>and Gary laughs Yeah right. They walk away, and Chorus

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<v Speaker 1>starts to complain pulling at her clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>My hosiery is bunching.

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<v Speaker 2>We said we would. We said that for the next

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<v Speaker 2>four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, for the rest, for the rest of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>We would say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Veronica leads Gary to the foosball table and he gives

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<v Speaker 1>a very simplified explanation of how to play the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Veronica asks, like this, and effortlessly scores a goal, which

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I don't think you're not technically you're

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<v Speaker 4>not allowed to spin.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't spin the handle.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's playing football, absolutely wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, correct, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So the fact that Sean's supposed to be good on it, right,

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<v Speaker 4>aggressive and fast and hard, spin them, spoon them.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary looks at her and awe kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Veronica jokes, I can go a little easier.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary brushes her off. Just take your next shot. He

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<v Speaker 1>blocks her shot, and she gives him admiration on the

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<v Speaker 1>way he blocked it. He asks, oh, you like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me show you how I did it. He walks

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<v Speaker 1>over to Veronica, sliding his hand down her arms and

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<v Speaker 1>positioning himself directly behind her to show her how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. He advises, what you need to have is

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<v Speaker 1>a real light touch. Then he grabs her hips and

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<v Speaker 1>Veronica shoves him off. Gary defends himself. I'm just showing

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<v Speaker 1>you how to play the game. Veronica fights back, I

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<v Speaker 1>know how to play the game. He sarcastically tells her,

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell by the way you're dressed. Veronica answers,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to look nice. Gary compliments her and

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<v Speaker 1>grabs her shoulders. She reminds him not to touch her.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary holds his hands up dramatically. Okay, don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>be touched. Veronica's getting mad. Did it ever occur to

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<v Speaker 1>you that I might be a nice girl?

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<v Speaker 2>No, leather jacket.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this one part of the writing that

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<v Speaker 1>the implication is nice girls, nice girls don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>ever make out or fool around on a first date.

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<v Speaker 3>That part maybe could have, but.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not a nice girl. It's then okay to just

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<v Speaker 4>go over and manhandle you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other right, exactly that either way, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason you're not allowed to do this is

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm a nice girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary argues, No, what I thought was no. What I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was that you'd be into guys. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you're not. I guess you prefer girls for a corresponds

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<v Speaker 1>Now in Shawn's voice. As a matter of fact, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary shocked. What Sean reiterates, I said, as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, and punches Gary directly in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>I do one of the few moments of violence.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, an actual punch, not a headlocker, an actual punch

1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:46.520
<v Speaker 5>who headlocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary, lays on the floor in pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Head off, jerk store.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary lay's on the floor and pain. What was that

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<v Speaker 1>for for every girl I've ever known? Then Cora walks over,

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<v Speaker 1>Please pay it the register, honey, and tipping is not

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<v Speaker 1>a city in China. She rips off the receipt and

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<v Speaker 1>throws it onto Gary. Coorra locks arms with Veronica. Come on, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of here. Then Corera grabs Tapanga's arms and

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<v Speaker 1>the three of them walk out proudly. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>that little ending to our story.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was like, David, let's go. And then boom

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<v Speaker 5>their credits to there are Oh. I thought there's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be more.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping that was going to be more.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we're in the tag in the school hallway.

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<v Speaker 1>The school newspaper's big headline is chick Like Me, and

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<v Speaker 1>above it is a picture of Veronica and Coorra. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is reading it, including Sean and Corey, who are surrounded

1:20:31.720 --> 1:20:34.559
<v Speaker 1>by girls taking a look. Phoene waltz up applauding them.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems the whole school is talking about it, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I do say so myself, excellent article, though he shakes

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<v Speaker 1>his head troubling photographs. Tapega and Debbie excitedly joined them.

1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Topanga is so.

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<v Speaker 3>Proud of Corey.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey shrugs, well, I am a journalist, dag nabbitt. Debbie

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<v Speaker 1>then thanks him for what he did. Sean responds, not necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot. In fact, of all the guys around,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say I'm the world's most perfect date right now.

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<v Speaker 4>A way to Penga gives Corey a lot of great

1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:01.040
<v Speaker 4>Sean cam up with the idea and.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly kind of interesting, like.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to keep the boy in the storyline to

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<v Speaker 1>Pega has but it's his his wrote he wrote the article.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole idea at the beginning of it was

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<v Speaker 1>he should write something of substance, so he sure Sean okayt.

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<v Speaker 2>Him to do it, and then like when he would

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie ads, of all the girls around, I could probably

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<v Speaker 1>use a perfect date right now. So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>have in mind? Sean suggests we could start with an

1:21:36.320 --> 1:21:39.360
<v Speaker 1>evening of good conversation. Debbie throws in and a genuine

1:21:39.360 --> 1:21:42.439
<v Speaker 1>connection with another human being. Sean says, I'm your boy.

1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Debbie holds out her hand and Sean grabs it. They

1:21:44.720 --> 1:21:48.640
<v Speaker 1>walk away happily together. The audience woos them loudly. Is

1:21:48.720 --> 1:21:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to Panga and Corey watched the couple with smiles on

1:21:50.920 --> 1:21:54.240
<v Speaker 1>their faces. Corey's face turns into a painful grimace as

1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>he scratches his pants. Panga asks what's wrong, and he

1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:59.920
<v Speaker 1>says in his Cora voice, my hosiery is still bunch,

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<v Speaker 1>and there you have it.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. This was, like we said at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was while I was watching it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was so enjoying it. I was enjoying the story, I

1:22:13.439 --> 1:22:16.479
<v Speaker 1>was enjoying the relationships. I was enjoying the way it

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<v Speaker 1>was written. You could play this episode right now and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be it would feel timely and relevant and

1:22:24.280 --> 1:22:26.800
<v Speaker 1>smart and funny and yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just overall really really.

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<v Speaker 2>Season four, Season four, just continuing one after another.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great, britty darn great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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