1 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Recently, we posted on Instagram an article from an old 2 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: teen magazine story about writer, and it says writer one 3 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent original, and then. 4 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Journal, I learned so much about you I did. 5 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Not know right now there's a beautiful picture of Writer's face, 6 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: and then above it it says centerfold on page forty six. 7 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Okay, but here's the article. When it comes to summing 8 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: up writer strong. 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: He fits into the the See that's the thing. He 10 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: doesn't fit into any category. Oh yeah, ask Writer the 11 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: quality he likes best about himself, and he'll answer not 12 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: fitting into a stare type is probably what I'm happiest about. 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: Knowing himself well. Could also be one of Writer's appealing qualities, 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: because it's true. Writer definitely doesn't fit into any particular 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: type or warrant a neat little label. He's no cookie 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: cutter guy who tries to look like everyone else and 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: say the same things everyone else does. Writer is truly 18 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: an individual, which is probably one of the qualities you 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: like best about him too. For starters, writer has a 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: unique name. How many writers do you know. 21 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: That you did that? You chose that, You chose it 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: your own category. Man, you chose your name. God so far. 23 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: All we had is one quote where they asked me, 24 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: what do you like about yourself? Right, and I said, 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't fit into a category. That's 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: what they ran with this whole article. 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Yep, and not so ordinary looks. He has that kind 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: of boy nex door but with an edge thing going on. 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: But his way of viewing the world. 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Is what really makes him stand out from the masses. 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Take writer's taste in music. Like a lot of fourteen 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: year old guys, writer loves rap, whoa do at all? 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: He does it all now literally never in my life 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: have I loved rap Like I went to one phase 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: at like twelve where I tried because everybody was getting 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: into it and like just like no, not for me. 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: So funny okay. 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: But but at the same time, he's also really into classical. 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: So for instance, when we actually tell us never like. 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: Really not into it, No, no, you will you mind it. 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 5: We went through a phase on boy too, worked. 42 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: Into instrumental music in different periods, but yeah, not like oh, 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: you know, a big chopin guy never chopping. 44 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 45 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: So for instance, when we asked him to tell us 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: his favorite song, he picked no not the Latest by 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Snoop Doggie Dog No, but a little baroque number called 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Cannon in D which yeah you. 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: Love you did. 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a CD called Canon and D Variation 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 4: and it was just did you give it? 52 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: I gave it to you. It was that song like 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: nine different ways. It was so cool that. Yeah, so 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: it was because of you. 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 4: I knew. 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was because of you. 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 4: I had this CD and it had just like, yeah, 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: like a bunch of versions and they were cool because 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: like some of them were like modern synthy, some of 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 4: them were like really classical, and you could I think 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: I just loved the idea of different versions of something. 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: I always loved. This one was on like a harpsichord. Yeah, 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: it was cool. 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: It was a good mind that. But I definitely had 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: my favorite version. It was tracked two. 66 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 5: Was that the classical one like that? It was almost 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: like the Ferrest Bueler. 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: No, there was one. 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: It was like I think it had like a really 70 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: it had like a more it was it had like 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: an electronic music background, like there was a like I 72 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: don't know, I'm gonna find this. It was my favorite 73 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: track was either two or three on that CD. That's right, Well, 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: it was a great song. If it ain't broke, don't 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: fix it. 76 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much, thank you very much. 77 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: One thing writer doesn't like is listening to music just 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: because everybody else says it's which is one reason you 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: won't find Counting Crows on his CD. 80 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: They picked. 81 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: I know, it's so weird, like they must have just 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: not talked to me and just decided to pick whoever 83 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: was the top of the charts at that week or whatever. 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: But they literally and then like that, I like wrap 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: and then it's yeah, it's it's you. You wonder if 86 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 4: this was put do you remember doing any of this 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: interview or was it just. 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: There's not an interview here. 89 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 5: They pulled a quote like that's what I mean. So, 90 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 5: but they didn't call you for this to say. 91 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: Like, like I said, I used to do interviews with 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: these these magazines. 93 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: The first two seasons a boy, I. 94 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 4: Did a bunch of these interviews, and they would sit 95 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 4: with me, or they would stop me at events with 96 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: a tape recorder and ask me like five questions really quick, 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: and I just answer them. 98 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: Or we do photo. 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: Shoots and then they'd be like, hey, could you go 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: talk to so and so in the corner And I 101 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 4: wouldn't realize even that it was like an interview, but 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: they'd be recording it and then like they'd write ten 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: articles out of one interview. 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't even I just don't know. 105 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: Like the it's so weird to think about, what is 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: the point of these these articles? Are these magazines? Right, 107 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: It's like, who are they? It's like the it's catering 108 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: to teenage girls. 109 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: Well, this is social media. This is ninety social media. 110 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: That's all. This is get to know you. 111 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 5: It's the stuff that other people now put up themselves, 112 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 5: like their favorite playlist and stuff like that. 113 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: But we weren't doing that back in the day. 114 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: So this is just i'd like your Twitter page the 115 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: end of it, which says his willingness to make like 116 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: a full on goofball in public men quote, I'm constantly 117 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: pretending to bang into doors and making people think I 118 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: hurt myself my friends. 119 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: I still haven't desire to do that every time I 120 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: open a door in front of somebody. Like, right, there's 121 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: a part of me that we're so used to doing. 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: The face slam trips. Yeah, yeah, you did it really 123 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: well though, you were really good. 124 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: Once in a while. 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: All this individuality makes writer one strafty bright guy strafty 126 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: bright being writer's own what else but unique word meaning 127 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: cool the end? 128 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right. 129 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: It's similar to social media. Yeah, so interesting. I had 130 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: no idea what I was getting into when I talked 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: to those those no you know, like Ben just never 132 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 4: did any of them, right, like he never did a 133 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 4: single one and so never he. 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: Didn't did he was he? Ever? 135 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: Was? His parents said no, and I guess they had 136 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: gone through it with Fred maybe to a certain degree, 137 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: or just decided that it wasn't classy enough like that 138 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: there was. 139 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that you're right, he never did these. 140 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: Didn't know whereas like the three of us were like 141 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: who wants to interview us? Yeah? 142 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: Sure, who cares? Because we just were like this is 143 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: fun and this is cool. This is what being an actor. 144 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: Is until I was like fifteen or sixteen, and then 145 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if this is. 146 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: I don't want to do these. 147 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: Well, you you also went to the next level though, 148 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: you that you were one of the one of the 149 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 5: Tiger Beat kids that literally like a Jonathan Taylor Thomas 150 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 5: where you then. 151 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: Go to another level. But sure, but still. 152 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 5: I mean, you were probably one of the top two 153 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 5: or three for couple of years, I would imagine, so 154 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: that's was a whole different thing. 155 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: But it wasn't it. You know, there's so not a 156 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: good thing. Like it was not good for your acting, 157 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: you know. 158 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: If anything, it diminished your standing within the industry as 159 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: an actual actor because it was like, oh, you are 160 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: ten essentially to a male like equivalent to a male model. 161 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: Like it's like, oh, you you're appealing to this side 162 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: of your career as opposed to you know, any sort 163 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: of artistic or expressive Uh. You know. 164 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, a little bit of a mummer. 165 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: That's interesting. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel, 166 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: I'm Roger Strong, and I'm will Fredell. 167 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Today we are recapping season four, episode fifteen, Chick Like Me. 168 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I believe We've made it here. It originally air January 169 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: thirty first, nineteen ninety seven. The synopsis in order to 170 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: get a better understanding of how girls think, Corey Intopanga 171 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: disguise Sean as a girl and set him up on 172 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: a date. Also, Eric teaches a coworker how to attract 173 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: a man. It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It was 174 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: written by Steven Hibbert, and did you guys have any 175 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: overall thoughts before I jump into our guest star cast. 176 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've always known that this was a 177 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: pretty legendary episode. You know, it's infamous for obviously the 178 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: big set piece, but I always remembered it as a 179 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: very well written episode, and sure enough it still struck 180 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: me as perfectly structured, incredibly well written, funny. 181 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. I think this is 182 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: top five Boy Meets World episode for me. 183 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: I said the same thing last night. 184 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: I think this is in my top five favorite Boy 185 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Meets World episodes. I think it's it has all the 186 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, exactly what we've talked about, with the right balance, 187 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: the right balance between really funny, laugh out loud moments 188 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: and yet a very poignant, relevant, great great topic. 189 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 190 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: I thought the A story was amazing. The B story 191 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 5: was completely unnecessary. I wish it wasn't in the episode 192 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: and it was all just the three of you together 193 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: with your storyline, because it just it was wedged in. 194 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 5: It was completely not needed in any way, shape or form, 195 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 5: because it was. 196 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: Those butchers like the theme, right, Yeah. 197 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. It was weird. 198 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 5: I just wish they just stuck with you guys, because 199 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 5: it was so good watching that that way. 200 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: And then it ended. 201 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: It seemed like it ended very abruptly, like the show 202 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: just kind of no your storyline just the show just 203 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: kind of ended. And so if they didn't do the 204 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 5: B story it, I think they could have flushed out 205 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: your storyline more because I loved it and I wanted 206 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 5: to see more. 207 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: I just wanted to see more of that. Frankly, it 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: went out like I mean, I punch a guy. 209 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: No, I know, but then it's like you just kind 210 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 5: of turn and walk towards the camera and in freeze 211 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: f and it was like, oh that's oh, that's it. 212 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: Like I thought there was going to be some kind 213 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: of wrap around, some kind of something. 214 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: I end up with the girl like I know, but 215 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: it was, yeah. 216 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 217 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: I felt like it just that scene as specifically just 218 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: kind of ended for me. 219 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: I thought you actually met your B storyline ended abruptly, 220 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: has never started. 221 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: Story It was really like, you know, it's just kind 222 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: of a conversation between two characters. 223 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It didn't bother me. I mean 224 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: it didn't bother me. I just didn't think it was necessary. 225 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 5: I would love to have just seen the whole This 226 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: could have been one of the weeks where I wasn't 227 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: in the show and it was just your storyline, because 228 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 5: I thought your storyline was great. 229 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 230 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: No, thoroughly enjoyed the episode all the way around. I 231 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 5: just I wish there was more of it. Frankly, really 232 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 5: well written and really well acted. You guys were all 233 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: even even the crazy like Ben being the crazies, any 234 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: Korra and all that stuff. 235 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: It's just it's so funny. 236 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 5: It's so funny that it is just and you just 237 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 5: you have to suspend belief with the kind of nobody 238 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: recognizes you guys. 239 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: Really but I had no problem doing that. 240 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 5: I had It was just fun all the way around, 241 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 5: and it's an important lesson. 242 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: I mean it really is. Yeah, really well done. 243 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: So guest starring Ryan Biddle as Gary. He's a Juilliard 244 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: grad who played Todd Wilkins on over forty episodes of 245 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: Sweet Valley High and was seen on Seventh Heaven. 246 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 247 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is so good in this episode, and like, 248 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: I think so much of this episode works because of him. 249 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: You know, he's like the perfect he just he's the 250 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: perfect slime ball. Yes it is, and like, you know, 251 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: to his credit, like, I mean, these are it's have 252 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: to like just commit to you know, basically being on 253 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: a date with a guy, like it was. 254 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: It's fun. Yeah he does, and he's yeah. 255 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: You're by it. 256 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And I remember, like it totally worked, enjoying 257 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: working with him and like having it and watching it. 258 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: Back, I was like, oh my god, that's so cool, 259 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: Like yeah. 260 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: He was straight, straight up cut from like the eighties 261 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: bad guys, you know, Johnny from the Karate Kid kind 262 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: of kind of look. 263 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: It was great. It was great. 264 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 265 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: And then we have Katie Wright as Debbie. You may 266 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: know her from The Wonder Years, Malibu Shores, Mel's Place, 267 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: or the movie Idle Hands. She is married to actor 268 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 1: Hank Azaria and is now a family therapist. 269 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: Cool. 270 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. And then we 271 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: have Jennifer Campbell who returns as Lonnie and this is 272 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately her last episode three of a three episode arc. 273 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: A common moment of departure, it seems for some of 274 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: our guest stars. 275 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: Wonder if that's actually contractual, Like you do three episode arc, 276 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: but then why end the storyline the way we did 277 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: where it's like, man, I don't, Oh, what did I 278 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 4: just do? Like we're setting it up to where now 279 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: she's gonna friend zone me, I mean something, and then 280 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: never comes back. 281 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know. 282 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: We are barely in this Wilderness store. By the way. 283 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 5: We built this in my head we were in the 284 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: Wilderness Store all the time. 285 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: We built this in a wilderness store a lot, but 286 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: not as much as I remember. 287 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: I remember this being in like every episode. Well it has. 288 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: Been in episodes, it's just their shorter scenes. Yeah, maybe 289 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: that's what the Wilderness Store that much. So you in 290 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: your time there, right. 291 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: Only in the Wilderness Store. So you was in the 292 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: Wilderness Store. 293 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: That's why I must feel like it's such a big 294 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 5: part of it. Yeah, that's gonna be that, right. 295 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's like yours. Yeah, that's I think. So 296 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: this is her last episode, huh Yeah. 297 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: And then we've got Mark Arnold is Dave. 298 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: He's got almost one hundred and fifty credits to his name, 299 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: including Teen Wolf. 300 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: We talked to him all week about Teen Wolf. 301 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: We were just peppering him with questions all week about 302 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: Team Wolf. We used to quote that movie constantly on 303 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: the set. So when he walked on, we saw him 304 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: at the table read you and I stopped. 305 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: We were like, it's a bad guy from teen Wolf. 306 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: The bad guy from Tea Wolf. It was so much 307 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: fun talking to him about everything. 308 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he also like Gary in this episode, yes, perfect, 309 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: Like yeah, dude, like Alfad. Oh yeah, he looks like 310 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: he's forty years old. The bad guy in the basketball 311 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: team and Team Wolf. It's so great. 312 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: It was also in Justice League, Blade Runner twenty forty 313 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: nine and fifty two episodes of a nineteen eighty five 314 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: show called Santa Barbara. Also, I have been reminded that 315 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: when Hillary Tuck was on the show, she said she 316 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: was only allowed to do three episodes because after that 317 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: it would be considered a recurring guest. 318 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: Ever, right, she said that didn't shit, and so they 319 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: just cut it off. 320 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: They were just like, you can't do it. 321 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, unless they unless the network or the whole team 322 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: was willing to commit to a bigger page. 323 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: It also makes me wonder how much they were trying 324 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: to get around that by having people come back as 325 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: different characters. If they were like, look, if we name 326 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: them something different, we can say they'd only done one episode, 327 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: but no. 328 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: Because that would have because Hillary was different characters. 329 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: I know that's what I'm saying, But I wonder if 330 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: they were thinking. 331 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: Of, let's name her something different. 332 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: Maybe we can get around it by naming them different things, 333 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: because it is. It does seem weird that, like if 334 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: you have the same person play three different characters, it 335 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: still counts as a recurring guest role even though those 336 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: characters have still only done one episode. 337 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 338 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: And you also, I guess if you I guess my 339 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 5: question then, especially with Lannie, is you know this is 340 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 5: her last episode? 341 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: Why not wrap it up where she leaves. Why isn't 342 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: the b the storyline I'm leaving Eric, I'm in a 343 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: powerful need to go home or something. 344 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: They would have. 345 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: Known that it's her last episode. I think maybe, you know, 346 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: they could have been hoping to convince the network to 347 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: give them more money for maybe or some you know, 348 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: there's always this tension between the production budget and the 349 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: realities of the creative whims of the writing staff, and 350 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: the writing staff might have been like, we love Lonnie, 351 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: we want to bring her back, and then they're looking 352 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: at the budget and saying well, then you can't have 353 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: this said, or you can't have this trip to Disney World, 354 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: or you know, whatever the considerations are. It's a constant conversation. 355 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: And but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the writers 356 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: were hoping to leave. 357 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: It open a little bit. Yeah, you're probably right. 358 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: So jumping into our recap, we start on our credits, 359 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: and then we are in the school hallway. Corey proudly 360 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: opens the school newspaper to show Sean his very own column. Also, 361 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: I noticed here that the back reads Patriot Sports, which 362 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: means we are most like the Patriots, the Patriots. 363 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: Yes, did you guys notice our eyebrows? 364 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: Yes? 365 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: I did. 366 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: That's what it is. I say, I. 367 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: Wrote down something strange with your faces, but I don't 368 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: know what it was. They decided because you know, during 369 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: the week, we did makeup tests to become the you know, 370 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: the women like the girl characters, and they. 371 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: Trip, they pluck both of our eyebrows. That's what it was. 372 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: And so it's so funny to watch when we start 373 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: the episode, we have like manicured eyebrows, especially for me, 374 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: like I have, you know, gigantic eyebrows, and like even 375 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: back then, I had bushy eyebrows and so yeah, so 376 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: they're like super thin and like and I was like, 377 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: something's oh, that's. 378 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: What I said. I didn't know what it was. I 379 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: was like, what's different? You see it in the classroom 380 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: when I'm like leaning forward to Chorea, I'm like, what 381 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: is going on? Eyebrows? 382 00:16:59,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: Notice? 383 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: I totally did is different? 384 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Well, we also should have noticed all of the all 385 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: of the trash cans say patriots. 386 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: Don't ask me how we. 387 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: Missed this all this time, but just because we're staring 388 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: at the blood drive sign all the time, that's exactly right. 389 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: So Sean reads the headline is it just me? Corey 390 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: nudges him to read on is it just me? Or 391 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: does paste not taste as good as it used to? 392 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: Corey laughs? Isn't that so true? Sean breaks the news. 393 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: The idea that this is what Corey is writing, Like, 394 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: I just. 395 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: I also love that we have made so many Seinfeld 396 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: references on the show that now they've just taken the like, 397 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: what does Seinfeld do? He notices every man things. What's 398 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: the deal with? Yeah, what's the deal with? And so 399 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: this is Corey's I just it's so funny, isn't it true. 400 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: Is it just me? It's just so funny to me. 401 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: So Sean breaks the news. 402 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: I know you really believe in your little humor column, 403 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: but don't you think you should be writing something more 404 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: important like the girls swim team and why they don't 405 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: wear high heels, which I thought was a funny Sean 406 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: thing to say. And then to Panga walks down the 407 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: hall with her good bestest friend Debbie. 408 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 3: We know so much about lots of. 409 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 410 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: Debbie is also there. 411 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Too, so she comments, Gary took you to Leon. 412 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: It's really expensive the restaurant. They might as well just 413 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: call it the French restaurant exactly. 414 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: Debbie laughs, Yeah, I know it was great. 415 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: The date was going great, but at the end of 416 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: the night he parked two blocks from her house, and 417 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: to Panga angrily folds her arms Octopus time on cue. 418 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: Gary walks past the girls and turns to Debbie. He 419 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: says he had a really nice night the other night 420 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: and adds a little laugh before walking away. Debbie finishes 421 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: her story all over me, what happened to the nice 422 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: guy I had dinner with? All guys are jerks on dates? 423 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: Tapanga corrects her, not all guys. Debbie Corey, who's listening nearby, 424 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: puts his hand to his chest. He knows she's talking 425 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: about him. Sean bursts his bubble. Is it just me 426 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: or should you not be proud of that? 427 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: Got some learning to do? 428 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey wipes the smile off his face and tries 429 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: to act cool. Debbie, who I just noticed in this moment, 430 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: has a very cool jungle themed trapper keeper. Her folder 431 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: is a nice, awesome time capsule from the nineties, just 432 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. 433 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 3: She's continuing to talk to Tapanga after a night of 434 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: fighting them off. I don't know if I want to. 435 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: Go on dates anymore, she jokes, She'd rather spend her 436 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: nights at the library. It's that pathetic to Panga agrees, 437 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: guys and girls have such a different idea of what 438 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: a date is supposed to be. Debbie, he wonders what 439 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: goes on in guy's heads and to peg emotions towards 440 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: Corey and Sean want to find out there's two of them. 441 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: So Debbie asks Corey and Sean what goes on in 442 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: their heads? And Corey immediately answers to Penga twenty four 443 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: hours a day, it's the Tapega channel in here. 444 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 3: To Pega hands him a treat. 445 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: What a good boy. Corey giggles at the reward. Sean asks, 446 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: don't you think that guys and girls are looking for 447 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: the same things on dates? Debbie tells them what girls 448 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: are looking for a good conversation and a good sense 449 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: of connection. Sean wonders, you're not interested in making out, 450 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: and Debbie responds, maybe I am, and maybe I'm not, 451 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: but it shouldn't be expected. Sean argues, then, how are 452 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: we supposed to know? What's okay? Debbie ensures him they'll 453 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: let the boy know, but usually boys don't listen. They're 454 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: too busy planning their next move to hear their dates. 455 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: Say no, Sean, who of course wasn't listening, asks. 456 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: Jan what this is great dialogue? 457 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: So great? 458 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 5: This is really good because it is also genuinely the 459 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: boy asking the girl how am I supposed to know? 460 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: And don't you want the same things? And it's like, well, 461 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: it shouldn't be expected. It's just really really smart dialogue 462 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: all the way around. 463 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: It's really smart because I love that they didn't make 464 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: it seem like, of course girls aren't interested in making out. 465 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: It's like exactly, actually, yeah, I might totally want to 466 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: make out with you. 467 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't. 468 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: Love the exposition getting to like the debate between Shawn 469 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 4: and Debbie. But once Shawn and Debbie get into it, 470 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: I like it. Like that's what I was like, Oh, 471 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: because but all this the preamble of like setting it up, 472 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: it just felt like expositional setup. But once we get 473 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 4: into this argument, I was like, this is cool. 474 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, this conversation is great. 475 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: This is a real conversation. And and yes, she has 476 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: given so much good like argument. You know, yes, she's 477 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: provided with it's so great. She's not a foil. She's 478 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: actually like a has a point of view and is nuanced, 479 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: and it's a good argument. Like it's a good yet 480 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 4: that people can still have. 481 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 5: It's different than a lot of the way that the 482 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 5: girls are written on the show. She came in with 483 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 5: her own point of view, like you knew this girl away. 484 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: It was great. 485 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: Totally. 486 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: I really liked that conversation. 487 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: Corey points out, this is why I write my funny column, 488 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: to take us away from the drudgery of interesting conversation. 489 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but the only thing I was thinking about 490 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 5: during during the beginning of part of the scene was 491 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 5: how And I get why they couldn't do it for 492 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 5: Girl Meets World, But you think, how interesting, what what? No, 493 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: how interesting Corey would have been had he been a journalist, And. 494 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: I forgot how much they set that up. 495 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: Yes, and I know they had to do it because 496 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 5: they needed the new mister Feenie, and they did it 497 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 5: for Girl Meets World. 498 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: But Corey as a journalist, I think could have been 499 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: a really interesting way to go. 500 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: To peg A counters that he should be writing about 501 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: something that affects people. Debbie agrees Corey should write a 502 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: column about why guys are such big jerks on dates. 503 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: Sean asks, if this is how she feels about guys, 504 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: why even go on dates at all? She contemplates for 505 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: a second, then agrees, you're right. I'm done to Panga 506 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: watches her walk away Way to be sensitive Sean. Sean 507 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: rolls his eyes, really pays to be honest with a girl, 508 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: and slams the newspaper into Corey's chest as everyone storms away. Corey, 509 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: now alone in the hall, says aloud, is it just me? 510 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: Or is it just me? And then we are in 511 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: Phoenie's classroom. Poenie is lecturing about the book Black Like Me, 512 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: written by John Howard Griffin. 513 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: A like man, you have a black background actor. But 514 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: one of the first times in the classroom. 515 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: I noticed that too. 516 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: There are two this scene. But it's just like, what okay, yes, 517 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: thank you, thank you producers of Boy Mets World, because 518 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: you know, somebody looked out and was like. 519 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: They're talking about black like me. We should probably not 520 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: have an all lily white. 521 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Philadelphia in philip at a public school in Philadelphia, 522 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: all white people, not an African American in the place. 523 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: Until then we talk about black like me. I will say. 524 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: It's always nice with the book reference. 525 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 5: There's something very comforting about Feenie teaching a book that's 526 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: going to have something to do with the show. 527 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: Just very classic boy. I love it every time. 528 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: So the white man, John Howard Griffin had his skin 529 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: temporarily darkened so he could experience life through the perspective 530 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: of a black man. Corey wonders while seated next to 531 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: those two black background actors who have no lines, wouldn't 532 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: it have been easier to just ask. 533 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: And one of the guys in the background like shakes says. 534 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: Up, guy, I know, it's so funny. 535 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: Phoene explains there was so much distrust between the races, 536 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: Griffin felt that he could only understand segregation if he 537 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: experienced it himself. Sean, then hit with an idea, says, 538 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: this should be Corey's next story. To understand girls, Corey 539 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: needs to experience the world from a girl's point of 540 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: view by becoming one. Corey scoffs that's crazy talk, but 541 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Seawan insists, no, you dress up like a girl and 542 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: write about it. 543 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: Chick like me. 544 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: Sean says, it would be a meaningful article, not just 545 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: some silly column. Corey argues, it's not a silly column. Peoene, 546 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: who apparently has been listening the whole time, chimes in, yes, 547 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: it is, which I love. Corey asks Feeney what happened 548 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: to Griffin after he wrote his book? And Phoene responds, 549 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: he sold five million copies in one immediate world renown. 550 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Why do you ask, mister Matthews? Corey corrects him Miss Matthews. 551 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: Sean and Corey grinn mischievously the plan has begun. 552 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: And then and then doesn't Phoene say like what he like? 553 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: I'm like? 554 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: Didn't he hear the whole conversation? If he if he's 555 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 4: able to jump in, he would have heard the whole thing. 556 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: He's over a foot away. 557 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we know how sound word. 558 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the sound works on the show. 559 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 5: If you're over a foot away is fifty to fifty 560 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 5: story exactly, bingo. 561 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 4: Face sing. You can hear every right, then that person 562 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: is overhearing. Or if they're behind there, behind me, aren't 563 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 4: they that's the other face. 564 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: That's another time when that works. 565 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that works then too. 566 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 3: Then we're at the Wilderness store. 567 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Eric is price tagging items behind the counter while Lonnie's 568 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: rattling off some selling points for an available tent. But 569 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: the male customer just stares back at her and says, 570 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: in the tone of a local people tom, I'll remember 571 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: who sold it to me. Lonnie loves to hear that. 572 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: I hope you do. That way you can remember me 573 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: for all your future wilderness needs. 574 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: And I'm making really bizarre faces in the background. I'm 575 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 5: doing some some serious facting bizarre faces. Yes, that's me bizarre, 576 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 5: like wow, bizarre, but yeah, there's some serious facting going on. 577 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't notice. 578 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: It's here's a well it's bizarre and wow, we both 579 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: get him in. 580 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 5: But yes, it's really just trying to put it all 581 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: out there on the face when I have no lines. 582 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of I forgot to mention, did you guys 583 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 4: notice the cake face in the previous scene? Yes, the 584 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: kid he does cake he does cake face, and it 585 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: would have been written into the script. 586 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: I forget what the exchange is, but he's in the 587 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: classroom and gets at the end. 588 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: It's how he ends the scene where it's like miss right, 589 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: and then I think Phoene says something back to him, 590 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: like questioning him, and then. 591 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: He does this, he does cake face, and it would 592 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: have been in the script at the point where, Yeah, 593 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: I've got to find the drafts. So you were making 594 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: some weird faces. That's it. 595 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 5: It's just to go back and watch really strange faces 596 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 5: in the background that kind of had to do with 597 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 5: what they were. 598 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: But truth be told, what you have to do something 599 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: you know they're cutting to you for reaction shots. 600 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: I'm just kidding, Like, m it's a lot, a lot 601 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: of acting. A lot of this is a bummer, Like 602 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: I think that this storyline could have been done, like 603 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: the idea that she is not great with men, and 604 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: in particular city men, or like more sophisticated Philadelphia men 605 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 4: without Southern accents, Like that's like, that's actually a cool storyline, 606 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: but it's so it's so absurd. I feel I feel 607 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: sorry for this actress because it's so ridiculous that she 608 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: like what like literally can't know and it's they have 609 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 4: to push it so far. 610 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: It's I'm like, why why not? 611 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 4: Why not find the nuanced version, especially in a script 612 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: that does have such. 613 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Nuance in the argumentation. 614 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the other side, you know, in the a storyline, 615 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: it's wonderful and everybody's given good arguments besides Gary maybe, 616 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 4: but like everybody has a cool point of view, and 617 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: I think that, yeah, this one just it didn't didn't work, 618 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: and it's I just don't know why it had to 619 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: be such a joke. It could have been great, Like 620 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 4: what if Eric and her like really like what dating 621 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: advice really was some something that Eric could give and that, 622 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 4: you know, rather than it just being what ends up 623 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 4: being a physical joke, like she touches him and he 624 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 4: gets turned on. 625 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's very easily would have given her such 626 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: good advice. She immediately has a boyfriend and he's like 627 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: and then he's like, I do that exactly, Like I 628 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: could have had her all to myself, if I had 629 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: just let her keep me, you know, like so yeah, anyway. 630 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: The guy then nervously asks, you probably get this a lot, 631 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: but would you want to get a cup of coffee sometime. 632 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: Lonnie admits she's not much of a coffee drinker, and 633 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: the man takes the hint, but Lonnie perks up, we 634 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: could do something else. He then quickly responds, slightly desperate. 635 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: Anything that would be great, Lonnie says, Why don't you 636 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: come over to my place and I'll cook you a 637 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: big old dinner. How about tonight we could wrestle. That 638 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: would be wow. Lonnie smiles and hits him in the shoulder. 639 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: I'llow what she did to Eric, and after dinner that's 640 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: when the real fun starts. He's a bit taken aback, 641 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: but still says I'm always up for a little fun. 642 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Lonnie tells him the plan. We'll rub oil all over 643 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: our bodies. 644 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: He nods, I like that. 645 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: She continues, go jumping in the cold river and go 646 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: eel grabbing. He's caught off guard, but Lonnie's excited. It's 647 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: so fun for the eels too, well, unless their heads 648 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: break off and there's a river you've. 649 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: Never heard very. 650 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 5: Grabbing river spot eel grabbing Allo, it's down by the crek' 651 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 5: oh it is Philadelphia. 652 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: Nobody knows out doors lack Philadelphia. 653 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: She punches him in the arm again. Now it stings. 654 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: She asks what time tonight and he backs away. Tonight's 655 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: really not good for me. I've got another appointment, which 656 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: actually doesn't involve eels. 657 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: She jokes, where's your sense of adventure? 658 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: He responds, I'll just take the tent, establishing she is 659 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: not hot enough for eel grabbing. We've now hit we've 660 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: hit the line. 661 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: So the best best women are men, but not too much. 662 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: He changes his mind. You know what, you keep the tent. 663 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: What I'm going to do is leave. He darts out, 664 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: and Lonnie calls after him. 665 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 3: I was just trying to be friendly. Lonnie hangs her 666 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: head and asks Eric if something is wrong with. 667 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: Her from the audience, Yeah, I know. 668 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: When it happened, I did. 669 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 5: Too, and I was like, okay, writers write in the 670 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 5: sense there is no need for that. There's no need 671 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 5: for her in any way, shape or formed for this 672 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: this one. 673 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 4: It's it's always an awe because it's our second or 674 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: third take. 675 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: Knows that they're supposed to feel to steal back, you contribute, 676 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, that's true. Now that's true. 677 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 4: It never feels like, it never feels earnest, it never 678 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 4: feels honest. I always like the obligatory. Let me tell 679 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: let the. 680 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: Audience help tell you the story. Right now, I gotta. 681 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: Feel Lonnie hangs her head and asks Eric if something 682 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: is wrong with her. Eric is scanning her up and down, 683 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: not saying anything. She asks again, and he explains. 684 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: I'm looking. She wonders, why am I always scaring boys off? 685 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: Eric asks, you don't have a lot of social experience 686 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: with men, do you? She says no, not with city 687 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: men at least. He asks if she dated any guys 688 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: up in the mountains, and she says, sure. We go 689 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: out to the woods and shoot things. Well, when you 690 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: see a cute, little fuzzy animal that you like and 691 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: I love, will that you were able to fit in 692 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: there a sense that you don't really like hunting. 693 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I that you want to you see a 694 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: cute anile that you want to kill? Yeah, it's a 695 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: great one. And this whole little like ron I do 696 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: really like you know, like, yeah, you have potential a 697 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 4: cartoon for you to see this speech, which is really funny. 698 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 699 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: And it also, you're right, it absolutely had potential to 700 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 4: be a possible good earn his storyline. It's also it's 701 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: also Eric could have gone the route of Okay, I 702 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: can tell she's not interested in me, but she's miserable 703 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 4: being alone. 704 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 5: Maybe I really can't help as a friend. You know, 705 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 5: you could have gone that route too, and it just instead, 706 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: you're right, it just wanted to end with her looking 707 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: for a tag and me getting turned. 708 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: Off speky and Soorcel moves. 709 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 710 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 5: Right, it's like elixir slipping, the elixir of the magical. 711 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 5: It's like, come on, just it could have it could 712 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: have been cool to. 713 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: Just be a friend in this moment. Yeah, it's interesting they. 714 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: Never decided to have Eric actually like all you do, 715 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: you're you flirt with her, you pine after her, but 716 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 4: like you don't actually make them Like it would have 717 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: been interesting if Eric actually fell for Lonnie or like 718 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: pursued a real relationship. 719 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: They always just kind of go for the joke and 720 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: the sex thing, which. 721 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: They never did in seven in seven seasons with Eric, 722 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: they never once had him pursue an actual relationship. Well, 723 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: I thought the single out episode sort of ended with 724 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: a pretty positive. 725 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, positive for him. Eric's gonna actually like 726 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: this person, yeah seriously. 727 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: And I think hopefully down the line, there's one or 728 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 4: two other guest stars in the house. I guess that 729 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: you were but that yeah, but you were pursuing her 730 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: in a real way, whereas this. 731 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: Is just like right right, that's my Eric, no respect Eric. 732 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Eric wants to know when you see a cute, little 733 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: fuzzy animal that you, you know, want to shoot, do you 734 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: go running up to it yelling and waving your rifle 735 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: in the air, Eric asks, Lonnie laughs no, because it'll 736 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: scare the critter off. Ah, she's figured out her problem. 737 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: You're saying, my behavior is scaring these citymen. Eric whispers 738 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: just a smidge. Lonnie realizes she needs to learn to 739 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: hunt and track these boys, but she's going to need 740 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: a city man to practice on. Eric lets out a 741 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: goofy giggle as she stares at him. And then we're 742 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: in the Matthew's kitchen. Alan appears to be doing taxes. 743 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: He's like got a calculator. Who knows what business He's 744 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: got on the table. 745 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: It's Wilderness Store, receipts. 746 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: That's true, the receivable and payable, Yes. 747 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: Exactly, Amy workship and tense. 748 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: That week, ye, Corey and Sean walk in holding bags 749 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: from Samantha's Secret. Alan asks Corey how his day was, 750 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: but Corey quickly blows by him and heads to the stairs. 751 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: Alan yells, hold on. Every day I ask you what 752 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: you did, and every day you tell me nothing. We 753 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: both know something happened today, and I want to know. 754 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: What it is. 755 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: Corey sighs, I decided to be a girl. Alan stares 756 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: at him blankly. You taught me a very valuable lesson there, son. 757 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Sean asks, Samy, you know the book Black Like Me. 758 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: A stressed Alan butts in, don't ask any questions, honey. 759 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: Sean explains Corey's gonna write chick Like Me for the 760 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: school newspaper. He's going to experience life through a girl's 761 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: point of view by dressing up as a girl, and 762 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: we reveal Corey holding up a cute red mini dress. 763 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Alan admits, no, don't want you to. Amy defends it. 764 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful learning experience. It could serve him well 765 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: for the rest of his life, and Corey holds up 766 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: another dress. Amy pulls out a bra out of another 767 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: shopping bag, and Corey explains it's a miracle bra. Alan 768 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: sarcastically says, it's a miracle bra. Honey, get a camera, Corey. 769 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm not dressing up like a girl just for the 770 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: sake of dressing up like a girl. I'm a journalist. 771 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: Dag nabbot, And the dag nabbot is the dag nabt 772 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: dag navity the line, Yeah, it's the line reading that 773 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: I was. 774 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: Let me ask you guys something, do you mind cross 775 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 4: dressing funny? 776 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 3: It was? 777 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be very funny back then. Like 778 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean you think about you know, missus doubtfire and 779 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: but did. 780 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 2: You ever find it funny? 781 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 4: I mean, I I mean it depends on what you 782 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: were I mean, there there was a there was an 783 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 4: interesting way to do it. Like I go my head 784 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: instantly when you asked that went to kids in the hall. 785 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 4: Where the kids in the hall they were just doing 786 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 4: sketches where they would be the female characters, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 787 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: Oh so you mean the actual idea of a like 788 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 4: character having to you know, I mean, I sound like 789 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 4: it hot as the ultimate example. 790 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: I haven't. 791 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't it's just funny because I 792 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 4: remember when we did this episode. You know, obviously so 793 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: much of the joke, so many of the jokes is 794 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 4: look at these guys, you know, in a dress, or 795 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: look at those guys being women, And I just remember 796 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 4: being like, I don't. 797 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: I never found that funny. 798 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 4: Like I didn't find this is a doubtfire that funny. 799 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: I never I just never was like, what's the joke? 800 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 4: And it's it feels it's an interesting thing. I mean, 801 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 4: some people still love it, right, I think it still 802 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 4: kind of works. Like that's the point of drag is 803 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: like a sort of performative like gender performance that is 804 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: transgressive in a way, right, Like I am crossing a boundary, 805 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: you know that I'm a man, I am dressing as 806 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 4: a woman to like get a laugh or a joke. 807 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm so curious, Like I remember not finding 808 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 4: it that funny back then, but it was such a 809 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 4: standard joke. It was saying you always had an episode 810 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 4: of almost every show where a male character did this, 811 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: and then like you know, I feel like there's a 812 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 4: million Eddie Murphy movies where he's in a dress, you know, 813 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 4: our serties. 814 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 5: It's like but you go you can go back to 815 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 5: some incredible films, Like you said, something like a Hot 816 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 5: or TUTSI is another great example of I think if 817 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 5: it depends on what the character's doing and what the 818 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 5: characters learning as they're doing that, Like again, exactly what 819 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 5: you're doing in Chick like Me, exactly what Sean is doing. 820 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 5: There's there's jokes wrapped in to the story of what 821 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 5: you're actually learning. 822 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: By It's a good version, definite, rightly, exactly the version, right. 823 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 4: But I feel like on the surface, the humor often is, 824 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 4: oh my god, that's a dude in a dress, right, 825 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 4: Like that's the joke is like to just laugh at 826 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 4: like this guy we know, you know, and yeah it's 827 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 4: I do remember like literally doing it and being like 828 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 4: why is this funny? Like I don't know if this 829 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 4: is uh, and I just always yeah, it's never struck 830 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: me as as a joke. 831 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 832 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 5: Well, it's even worse actually if you take it to 833 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,959 Speaker 5: the level that it is, because we do it again, 834 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 5: Jack and I do it again in a later episode 835 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 5: where it's not only being a girl, it's that it 836 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 5: doesn't work. 837 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 2: Because you're a quote unquote ugly girl. Yeah, so that's 838 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: where it is. 839 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 4: It's not I remember that episode being as successful as 840 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 4: chick like Me. 841 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 5: No, because no, because you learn something and check like me. 842 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 5: There was a point to it, there is, that's the 843 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 5: whole idea. 844 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 4: So great about this episode is that it actually it 845 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 4: takes the joke, the sort of superficial, immediate joke of 846 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 4: of cross dressing and takes it to a place where 847 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 4: it's like, oh my gosh. 848 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: Both yes, you know, everybody's. 849 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 4: Learned something and experience something, and that's great. 850 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 5: Our episode with Jack and Eric that do that, it's 851 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 5: just cross dressing for the sake of the joke. Nothing 852 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 5: is learned, nobody grows as a person. It is simply 853 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 5: the joke of I look ugly in address. That's that's it, 854 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 5: And that's so it's I mean, it's the tale of 855 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 5: two things on the same show. It's that, you know, 856 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 5: it's the tale of what you can do and what 857 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 5: you shouldn't do. And I know that people love the 858 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 5: episode where I dress up like a woman because they 859 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 5: think it's funny, and if you can put that aside, 860 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 5: that's all it is. 861 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: But nobody, maybe a lot of people really do find it. 862 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,479 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's a it's a trope, right, yes, 863 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 4: well it's also been around for dress is whereas like 864 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: the reverse isn't quite as funny, like a well girl 865 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 4: dresses a guy is not. It's not as transgressive as 866 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: miracle and like. But anyway, there's just something about twentieth 867 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: century American culture that loved. 868 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: Guys and dresses. 869 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 4: Because it's also women were not allowed to act at 870 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 4: all back in the Elizabethan age, so it was all 871 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: it was the men were playing all the women too. 872 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: It's different. 873 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 5: But it wasn't a joke, That's what I mean. That's 874 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 5: what That's what I mean. It wasn't a joke. That 875 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 5: was they were actors playing a role, which is why 876 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 5: when you get Dustin Hoffman in Tutsie, he's an actor 877 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 5: playing a role that hearkens back to that time on stage, 878 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 5: like you know, like Shakespeare. 879 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: Again, it's a story where the cross dressing is like 880 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 4: a funny fact outside of you know, it's. 881 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: Not the point whereas I feel like the point of Corey. 882 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: Pulling out a brawl and the audience going is like, 883 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: oh my god, we're gonna see you know, it's like, 884 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 4: isn't that hysterical? 885 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, then Tapega walks in and tells Sean she 886 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: may have been a bit protective of Debbie this morning, 887 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: preventing her from fully considering his point of view. Sean 888 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: proudly exclaims, I never knew I had a point of view. 889 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: Corey says, everything's worked out for the best because he's 890 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: decided to be a girl and see what it's really like. 891 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: Topanga frowns, not in a dress, You're not. 892 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: Corey was counting on her expert assistance to help in 893 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: selecting the proper female accouterment. Tapanga asks, you want me 894 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: to dress you up like a girl? Corey smiles, yeah 895 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: to Panga, make Corey pretty. Tapanga responds, cool, I like it. 896 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: It was the cool of Danielle cool. 897 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 5: I also like that they had Topanga coming in and 898 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 5: the first thing she's doing is apologizing to Sean for not. 899 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 4: Listening to his point of view. Like it's a good 900 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: moment between the two of you. 901 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 5: Whose She's like, you know what, I might I might 902 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 5: have dismissed you too fast this morning exactly. 903 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's also a nice acknowledgment that you know, truthfully, 904 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: there is another side. 905 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: To this that deserves hearing as well like it. 906 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: Maybe we've been we're having miscommunications and part of it's 907 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: because I wasn't listening to you. 908 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sean has also already come you know, he's yeah, 909 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 4: he's come up with this project. 910 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: You walk and saying, let's do this project. 911 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: It's a very mature. It's so mature all the characters. 912 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: So then we do a kind of optical flip to 913 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: Corey's room. We haven't seen it for a while. We 914 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: get a nice look at the parking meter piggy bank 915 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: that we remember from season one. To Penga and Sean 916 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: are waiting patiently for Corey outside the bathroom, when to 917 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Pega shouts, Sweetie, you have to come out eventually. Corey groans, 918 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: don't want us second thoughts to peg It promises they 919 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: won't laugh. Corey assures them, you're not seeing what I'm seeing. 920 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: Sean reminds Corey he's going to make a difference in 921 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: the lives of guys and girls everywhere. Corey reiterates, you're 922 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: not seeing what I'm seeing. Sean asks how bad a 923 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: girl could you be? And then Corey walks out of 924 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: the bathroom wearing a brown wig, bright red lipstick, a 925 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: giant bra underneath a relatively tight dress, brown tights, white 926 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: high heels, and long fake nails. It is a very 927 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: committed costume. And want to go on record as saying 928 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he looks that bad. 929 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think he looked at bad either. Well, 930 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. 931 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 4: The irony here is that at the end of the 932 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 4: episode when he's Cora, he's actually the most convincing female, 933 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 4: the most you know, like way more convincing than I 934 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 4: think I am. 935 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's and then that. 936 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 4: And his performance is so great, like so cool a 937 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 4: character like oh yeah, like I feel like I've actually 938 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 4: met women that talk and look like that. And Ben 939 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 4: is so good. So the idea that Corey can't do 940 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 4: it here I never quite understood. I remember even when 941 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 4: we were filming. 942 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,479 Speaker 3: It being like yeah. 943 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 4: But then he shows up his Cora. Why did he 944 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 4: choose to do Cora? And he does it so well. 945 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's weird, but I guess they just 946 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 4: needed again the joke of like gout dress and that. 947 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: But Ben is very funny in this scene, so funny. 948 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 4: I think he sells it by playing it as a 949 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 4: stretched out woman, which is really fun, you know, like 950 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 4: his mannerisms and like I think I look fat, and 951 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 4: like the way he holds his nails and like. 952 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 2: All of that. 953 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: But it's also so that's all very meta, like why 954 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 4: would Corey be acting like that? Right, He's uncomfortable being dressed, 955 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 4: you know, but it's it's funny. 956 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 2: Whatever, It's very Do you think he didn't button up? 957 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: There's like two or three of the choice buttoned. I 958 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 2: know they had to make him that's the thing. 959 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 4: They had to like overstuff his bra and make it 960 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 4: his shoveled and because you know. 961 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: That's you know, we had to set up the storyline 962 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 2: to get me. And I couldn't tell if that was 963 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 2: a choice or not. I guess it was. 964 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 965 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: So Topanga can hardly look at him, and Sean admits, okay, bad. 966 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: Corey asks how bad, and Sean tells him bad bad. Corey, 967 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: siys I knew it. I look fat, Sean says, fat 968 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: is the least of your problems, baby. Topanga wonders, maybe 969 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: it's just not a good color for you. Corey's upset, 970 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: and he runs back toward the bathroom. Topega and Sean 971 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: grab him. She's confident they can do this, It's all 972 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: about how you present yourself to Panga encourages him to 973 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: show it off. So Corey gathers himself and starts strutting 974 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: with some sass. He snaps his hands back and forth. 975 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: He contemplates the cat walk and asks if that was 976 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: all right. Shawn answers, not even on a desert island. 977 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: Girls just glide more. You gotta kind of let it flow. 978 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: To Pega admits, that's right on the nose. Sean shrugs. 979 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: Girls are my area. I like girls. Corey asks Sean 980 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: to show him, so Sean does his own sassy glide 981 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: and to Panga and Corey realize what needs to happen. 982 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: Sean repeatedly says no, no, no, no, and then we 983 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: optical flip to the school. A rowdy guitar riff plays 984 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: as Sean is peeking out into the hallway. We see 985 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: he's wearing some dark eye makeup, paired with red lipstick 986 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,959 Speaker 1: and a brown wig with bangs. He looks a little 987 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: apprehensive before stepping out in a mini skirt, gliding next 988 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: to a very giddy Corey. 989 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: Matthews, right, or what do you remember about this scene? 990 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 4: Oh? Well, I just remember the whole week, you know, 991 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 4: so much attention because you know, you have to realize, 992 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 4: like it's written on the page that I'm supposed to 993 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 4: gorge gorgeous, or that you know that it works in 994 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: a way that it doesn't work for Corey. And of 995 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 4: course it's it's easier to sort of figure out way 996 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 4: is to make somebody unattractive than it is to make. 997 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: Them actually attractive. 998 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 4: And so yeah, so I just remember so much energy 999 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 4: put on, like you know, I actually had tape on 1000 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 4: my face to like pull it back obviously, lots of makeup, 1001 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 4: the wig and then the outfit that would work. 1002 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remember being stressed out. I remember 1003 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: being stressed out this week. 1004 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember mostly being like you know, which is 1005 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 4: funny because when I watched the episode, I don't feel 1006 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 4: that stress. Actually, I feel like I'm pretty I'm really 1007 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,959 Speaker 4: happy with my performance. I go, this might be maybe 1008 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 4: the best. 1009 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 2: I've done on. 1010 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 4: Because of the cross stressing factor, because the the quick changes, 1011 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 4: especially like in this scene, and like the ability the 1012 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 4: way that that you know, when Sean is in character 1013 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 4: when he's not, you know, I went to laugh with 1014 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 4: him or when to laugh at him, and like I'm 1015 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 4: just like I didn't realize how much I was threading 1016 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 4: this needle as an actor, and I look back on it, 1017 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm just like, wow, that was mer curial, Like he 1018 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 4: I'm moving through like one look at the and I 1019 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 4: was like, and then you know, there's just a relaxed, 1020 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 4: like a confidence that I'm really impressed by in seventeen 1021 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 4: year old writer. I'm just like, good, good job, dude, 1022 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 4: this is cool. Like I don't know that many seventeen 1023 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 4: year olds who who would have pulled this off? 1024 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: Like I don't know. 1025 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 4: Like, so for one of the first times on this podcast, 1026 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 4: I'll say, like, I'm very proud of you. 1027 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 2: Should be. 1028 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 5: You're also playing it completely and totally straight, like totally committed, 1029 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 5: and so the comedy is just coming. You're not hitting 1030 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 5: you're not trying to hit any joke, which is what 1031 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 5: we do on this show. 1032 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 2: We're trying to hit jokes all the time. 1033 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 5: The comedy is coming from the commitment of just playing 1034 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 5: this character, and the comedy comes naturally from the situations 1035 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 5: that you're then in, which makes makes the laughs three 1036 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,479 Speaker 5: times as sharp. 1037 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 2: In my opinion, Yeah, it's great. 1038 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, when I watched the scene, I was like, 1039 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 4: because I guess over the years, I think the sort 1040 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: of popular conception of this episode, at least it has 1041 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 4: been reflected back to. 1042 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 2: Me, is like, oh my gosh, you were hot, like 1043 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: you were actually you know, And I looked at it 1044 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 2: and I was like, no, it's still still kind of 1045 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 2: looks like me. 1046 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 4: I got a big face, I got a big agree 1047 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 4: with you. You're very like I look kind of. 1048 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1049 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: I was just like, it's it's very interesting because when 1050 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: you know, we had Lori Heaps on the show and 1051 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: Laurie was talking about what a what an undertaking it was, 1052 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: and you know, finding the wigs and. 1053 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 3: All of that. It's it is a hard job. 1054 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 1: For the crew when in a script, no matter how 1055 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: realistic it is, it just says Sean is a gorgeous woman, 1056 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: and then next to that, you know, Corey's a hideous woman. 1057 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: It's much easier to make somebody look ugly. You can 1058 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: add things and make them look disheveled and do all 1059 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: kinds of things. It is much harder to make a 1060 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: very you're a manly guy, you have a you have manly, 1061 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: stereotypically manly features to now suddenly with no plastic surgery, 1062 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: but just what you can you have at your fingertips 1063 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: sell you as a convince a convincingly attractive feminine woman. 1064 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: Difficult. 1065 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 4: It's hard, yeah, yeah, And that's why I think like 1066 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 4: Corah is actually more successful because it's character and you 1067 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 4: can tell that, like, you know, obviously, they figured out 1068 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 4: the hair and the thing, and then figured out an 1069 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 4: attitude and a and a way of walking and talking 1070 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 4: that matched the outfit, and. 1071 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,479 Speaker 2: It becomes its own thing. 1072 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 4: And that's way more convincing than Sean as Veronica. 1073 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 2: Like Veronica to me always felt a little I don't. 1074 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 4: Know, but but but I think that the trick is 1075 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 4: the high boots and the short skirt. Right, we just 1076 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 4: have to make it, yes, we have to make it 1077 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 4: like a fast girl, a typical boy, you know. So 1078 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 4: she's I mean, Veronica is rest like right, like a 1079 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 4: stripper really, you know, a porn star, like if she. 1080 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: Really you know. 1081 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: So much of that is because of the colors they chose, 1082 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: because I thought the same thing. I was looking at 1083 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: the black and the red and I was like, they 1084 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: went for a very look at me va vavom color combo. 1085 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: And I wonder if that's because they were hoping that 1086 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: that that alone would add a sexual factor that maybe 1087 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: you and more in softer colors, Maybe you looked manlier 1088 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,720 Speaker 1: with with more neutral colors or something. 1089 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 2: So did you have to do you remember? 1090 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 5: Did you have to try on a whole bunch of 1091 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 5: looks and a whole bunch of outfits or was it 1092 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 5: kind of just like. 1093 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 4: Like I said, I remember being stressed out like I 1094 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 4: remember being I wonder how much of that stress and 1095 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 4: anxiety was performative on my part though, you know, which 1096 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 4: is a little bit of a bummer to think about. 1097 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 4: But I think that I probably was, like wanted to 1098 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 4: make everybody sure that I was. I was uncomfortable with 1099 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 4: having to be like a woman, you know, like you know, 1100 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 4: because do you see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I 1101 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 4: think seventeen year old as much just I can look 1102 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 4: back and say, I'm I was confident in in my 1103 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,959 Speaker 4: acting and like in the in the beat to beat, 1104 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 4: I think there was also a part of me that, 1105 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 4: you know, wanted to make sure everybody knew that like 1106 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 4: this isn't normal for me. 1107 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't typically just you know, which is ridiculous, 1108 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: like who gives me writer? 1109 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 4: But but you know, I was seventeen whatever, and I 1110 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 4: was asked, and I was, you know, frankly, like I 1111 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 4: didn't get asked whether to do that. You know, you 1112 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 4: just get the script and you got to do it. 1113 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 4: So I'm sure there was a little bit of like 1114 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 4: can I pull this off? And that insecurity fed into well, 1115 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 4: I shouldn't want to pull this off, like I don't 1116 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 4: need to, you know, because I am such a guy, 1117 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 4: such a I would never you know, which, you know. 1118 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 2: But then I also. 1119 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 4: Kind of remember that there was some acting, like there 1120 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 4: was some fun that like, oh, you know, this is 1121 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 4: a typical acting thing. Like you said, it goes back 1122 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 4: to Elizabethan tradition. You should be able to play anything. 1123 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I know, without a shadow of a doubt. 1124 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: Writer, young writer, modern day writer would have loved the 1125 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: idea of this message, like the scripts message you were 1126 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: hook line and sinker for, this is a message that 1127 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: need to be told, like women need. You know, this 1128 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 1: is so you would have loved the point behind it, 1129 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: while also dealing with teenage ego stuff of but it 1130 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: makes me very uncomfortable. 1131 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's equivalent to having to be in your 1132 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 4: underwear exactly, like the way great story yes, this could 1133 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 4: be good for the character of the storyline, but as 1134 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 4: the actor. 1135 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: I have to actually do it. 1136 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's what I remember feeling mostly with this 1137 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 4: episode was that anxiety of like, this is I have 1138 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 4: to pull this off. I have to go through makeup 1139 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 4: for four hours. I have to try on. Like you said, 1140 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 4: I don't remember, but I'm sure I tried it on 1141 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 4: more reading different outfits before they were like, this is 1142 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 4: the right combination. 1143 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 2: Because it is, it's tricky. How do you sell it 1144 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,760 Speaker 2: but also make it obvious? 1145 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 4: And yeah, but anyway, going back when I saw this scene, 1146 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't I'm not that convinced. 1147 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 2: And I'm also just I don't think I'm that attractive. 1148 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 4: But whatever, it's it's funny and the point is there, 1149 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 4: and you know, I guess compared to Corey, it's it's great, 1150 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 4: you know. 1151 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: Sean nervously asks Cory why everyone's staring at him. Corey admits, 1152 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't want you to take this the wrong way, 1153 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: but you're kind of a babe. Sean's excited to hear this. 1154 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,439 Speaker 1: Corey even offers to carry his books. Sean's down, that's cool. 1155 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: They walk over to Topanga and she asks why Corey's 1156 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: carrying Sean's books, and he explains, we're trying to create 1157 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: the illusion that Sean's a girl, so I thought this 1158 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: would help. Topenga says he never carries her books, and 1159 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: Corey says, well, look at him, and sheepishly smiles. 1160 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 3: The inmates in the audience love it. 1161 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 2: They did. They were very on board. 1162 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: They are laughing and Tapanga eyes Cory up and down. 1163 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,879 Speaker 3: Funny book. I give. 1164 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 4: It's such a like it's it's so interesting to see 1165 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 4: how much this was on the heels of an affair 1166 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 4: to Yes, you know, it's like this sort of and 1167 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 4: I wonder how long I'm going to really enjoy it. 1168 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 4: I'm enjoying this now, but like, I know, we do 1169 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,240 Speaker 4: the gay joke a lot, you know, like the Corey 1170 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 4: Sean and it's like walking then you know here it's 1171 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 4: very funny because it's like you know, but yeah, I'm 1172 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 4: curious how many episodes in I'm going to be able 1173 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 4: to like think this is great but it's very funny. Now. 1174 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey covers and look at you. You were just 1175 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 1: radiant today. Topanga, always the ally how asks how it 1176 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: feels for Sean to be wearing pantyhose. He reminds her 1177 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 1: it's not Sean. He needs a girl's name. Corey offers Janet, 1178 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: but Sean turns it down to Pega. Senses there's more here. 1179 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: You've thought about this before, haven't you. Sewan admits a little. 1180 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: The name he likes is Veronica. Corey turns to Tapanga 1181 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: in horror, but Tapanga responds encouragingly, Veronica is a lovely name. 1182 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: Right then mister Feeney walks up to the group. Good morning, 1183 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: Miss Laurence, mister Matthews, mister Hunter, and then he stops. 1184 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: Dead iness tracks Beeanie looks up to the sky and 1185 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: shakes his head in dismay. He turns to Veronica and 1186 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: smiles awkwardly. If there's anything you need to talk about, 1187 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: my door is always open. I'm not here to judge. 1188 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 5: So now I loved it, but I had a thought, 1189 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 5: do you think it? I mean, there's two ways to 1190 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 5: look at it. You can never fool Feenie. He's gonna 1191 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 5: he'll always know no matter what. But the other way 1192 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 5: to look at it is that people would be able 1193 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 5: to recognize that it's Sean right away. 1194 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 2: So I didn't you know, I didn't know if. 1195 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 4: It's interesting, it should have come after somebody else. 1196 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 2: Exactly the same thing. 1197 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 4: It shouldn't have started with the first persons recognizing him. 1198 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: He's just so used to seeing the three of us together. 1199 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: He said the three names. 1200 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 2: I read it as always knows. 1201 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I got to But I thought, if 1202 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 4: it's shakes his head, it's brilliant. But if just one 1203 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 4: person first saw it, like like acknowledge that Veronica was 1204 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 4: Veronica before then Foenie comes in and says Sean Hunter. 1205 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1206 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 5: I think it would have made it stronger because when 1207 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 5: the first person addresses as Sean, my head instantly went to, oh, 1208 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 5: then the this guy's never going to work everybody, you know, 1209 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 5: everybody's going to know him. 1210 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 4: I would love to see the script for this. Do 1211 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 4: you think you have a copy of Chicken? I'm gonna 1212 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 4: I was just thinking, I want I'll look through everything 1213 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 4: I want to see if I'm curious about I just want 1214 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 4: to know this is like the second or third time 1215 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 4: this has come up. I really want to know what 1216 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 4: the stage direction said, like, what did you say for Bill? 1217 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 2: What did you say? 1218 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 4: Did Feeney stop roll his eyes like it's not rolling 1219 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 4: that because like what Bill does is just like a 1220 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 4: prayer to heaven? Like what do you call that? Little 1221 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 4: like desperate? Like I can't believe I have to deal 1222 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 4: with this. 1223 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 2: It's so good. 1224 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 4: I would love to see how that was actually if it. 1225 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 5: Was, because don't you remember Kevin Calton saying that he 1226 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 5: he one time puts something in for a stage direction. 1227 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 2: For Bill and Bill. 1228 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is how to say your actual life? This 1229 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 4: would have been a beat on the page with the 1230 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 4: action line. And I'm so curious what it said, like 1231 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 4: I just because however, you know, I don't know. However, 1232 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 4: as a writer, I'm curious what it said because it's 1233 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 4: so cool. Yeah, and then also as a as an 1234 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 4: actor and appreciate someone who appreciates Bills acting. If it's 1235 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 4: not there, what you know what he brought to it 1236 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 4: as an actor, I'm so curious. 1237 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 2: Yes, it's great. 1238 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 1: So Sean clarifies it's for an article we're writing. Phoene 1239 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 1: reminds them I am not here to judge and walks away. 1240 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: Corey notices their target. Gary is approaching Tapenga says to him, 1241 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: Debbie said, you two went out on Saturday that Gary 1242 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: notices Veronica and is distracted. 1243 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 4: This look man, his ability with his eyes to just 1244 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,959 Speaker 4: go hey, hey, hey, he plays a great creed. 1245 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 2: He does plays a great creed. It's his locked down 1246 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 2: to the new girls. Yep, so good. 1247 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: Hi there, I'm Gary, Corey excitedly introduces Veronica. Veronica was 1248 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: Boyski was Boyski. Gary kicks some game. I've never seen 1249 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: you before you knew in school. Veronica laughs, Yep, I'm 1250 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: just a whole new person. I do like your womanly voice. 1251 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 3: Writer. Yeah, it's not too overdone. 1252 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 2: Really well, I don't know. I mean, I don't. I don't, Yeah, 1253 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 2: I don't. I felt a little uncommitted. It's like I 1254 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: felt like I was done. 1255 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: If it had been over the top, it wouldn't have 1256 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: been good. It's so subtle, subtle and just just delicately 1257 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: feminine enough enough that it's it works. I really think 1258 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: had it been over the top with the way you look, 1259 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 1: I also would have been like, Nope, I can't, I 1260 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: can't buy it. But it really worked, And I think 1261 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: the reason it worked for me is because of your voice. 1262 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 3: So I think it was a good choice. 1263 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: Gary offers to take her to Chubby's tell her what 1264 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: teachers to avoid all of that stuff, but then adds, 1265 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, unless your boyfriend already did that. Corey interrupts again, No, Gary, 1266 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: this one is definitely available. Veronica shoes him away. Corey, 1267 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. That'd be great to hang 1268 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: abouts in. So Saturday is that good for both of you? 1269 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: Sean reminds her under his breath, Saturday is my date night. 1270 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: Corey exclaims it still is. 1271 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 4: And this is one of those moments where I was like, 1272 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 4: that's so good. You just ought to John the coach 1273 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 4: switching that Sean is doing. 1274 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's really well done. 1275 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 4: I'm so curious, Like going back just a second, I 1276 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 4: wonder where this episode fell in the right I can't 1277 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 4: wait to talk to Steve Hibbert, Like who came up 1278 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 4: with this? Like why, Like I wonder if they watched 1279 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 4: An Affair to Forget and we like, let's let's push 1280 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 4: it even further, right, you know, like the way that 1281 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 4: because because I reminded just right now and when when 1282 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing the female the Veronica, it's very similar to 1283 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 4: the way I was like Corey, you know, like laughing 1284 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 4: at like they're shy, the shy like, and so I 1285 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 4: wonder if that was the inspiration, Like the writers were like, 1286 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 4: oh we could, we could just push this even further 1287 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 4: into Yeah, that's funny. 1288 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 3: Well, we can't wait to talk town. 1289 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,439 Speaker 1: We got to see And then Veronica smiles at Gary 1290 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,919 Speaker 1: and agrees to Saturday. Gary so he'll see her then, 1291 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: and gives her a wink as he leaves. Corey and 1292 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: Tapanga congratulate John. He's got a date. 1293 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 3: John's nervous. I have nothing to wear, and I love this. 1294 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 3: I love how now it's just so quickly. 1295 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: All of the fears and all of the anxieties about 1296 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: being a woman, the insecurities just and. 1297 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 5: All your mannerisms were like, well, it were perfect at 1298 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 5: the time. You're like fiddling with your fingers. 1299 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,479 Speaker 2: And ran around. 1300 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 3: It's really well done. 1301 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: We go to a commercial break and then we come 1302 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: back at the Wilderness Store. It's now after hours. Eric 1303 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: and Lonnie. She's back in her crop top flannel. That 1304 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: makes so much sense. They're practicing her approach with city. 1305 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 2: You can be warm, but show that belly button. 1306 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: So your boobies are warm, but your belly button is cool. 1307 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 2: And I've got the cool sleeves rolled off as Eric 1308 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 2: looks pretty cool. 1309 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric creates a scenario where he's a guy named Dave, 1310 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: and when Lonnie sees him at the club, she wants 1311 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 1: him to avoid detection and stay with the hunting metaphor. 1312 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: She crouches down and walks slowly toward Eric, slyly, placing 1313 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: herself right next to him at the bar. Eric tells 1314 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 1: her to make eye contact and smile, so she gives 1315 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: him a big grin and enthusiastically says, I want that one, 1316 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and she pokes him on the nose. Eric admires her 1317 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: single mindedness, but no, he says that if she gives 1318 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: a guy a compliment. 1319 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 3: He will be hers for the rest of her life. 1320 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Apparently, what world. 1321 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Is it true of a man that if you give 1322 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: him a compliment, he will be loyal to you for 1323 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: the rest of his life. 1324 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,959 Speaker 2: Well, let's try it. Give me a compliment right now? 1325 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 3: Will you have the most gorgeous eyes? 1326 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 2: I love you, my god? It works it that's amazing. 1327 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 4: Do you think, Well, I don't know the loyalty, but 1328 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 4: I do think that like when you say that, like 1329 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 4: guys like to have their egos. Oh, that's more than 1330 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 4: because the opposite, like with women, like the sort of 1331 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 4: uh pick up artist strategy opposite, right, the whole. 1332 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 3: Like the whole why'd you wear that jacket? 1333 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 4: Right? The nagging idea, right, Like that's the like traditional 1334 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 4: advice if you want to get a guru, you gotta 1335 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 4: you know. 1336 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 2: And I think that's not true. 1337 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 4: Well maybe it's I don't know, does it work the 1338 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 4: other way? You never hear about pickup artists from a 1339 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 4: female perspective. There must be some. 1340 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 5: Because you don't need to be an artist and you 1341 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 5: walked up and you go, yeah, hey, let's go, and 1342 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 5: you wear a fleece crop top. 1343 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 2: And that's jacket or exactly check. 1344 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, though I don't know, but I would assume just 1345 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 4: based on my life experience. Yeah, Guys like compliments, right, 1346 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 4: They like being told you're smart. 1347 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 3: The whole idea of like, wow, you're smart. 1348 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 1: They'll talk to you that night, sure, but then the 1349 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: minute somebody else gives them a compliment, Yeah, it's like, 1350 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: give us a compliment, where yours for the rest of 1351 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: your life? 1352 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 5: It's like what I just I always think of that 1353 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 5: amazing line is that from when Harry met Sally where 1354 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 5: he says women need a reason have sex, men just 1355 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 5: need a place. 1356 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 2: And I think that's true basically. 1357 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 4: But it's also like what is her problem? 1358 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Exactly, like what is you want? 1359 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 4: Because she doesn't want to man she wants to a 1360 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 4: dude to hang out with, or she wants somebody to date. 1361 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 4: I think she wants for somebody to date, but again, 1362 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 4: would that be like really, I don't know, she's scaring 1363 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 4: the guys off by being too man manly. 1364 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: There's a right level of manliness to be the perfect woman. 1365 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: She hasn't hit that yet, right. 1366 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 5: I think it's also she think what they were trying 1367 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 5: to do was also talk where it's more about I 1368 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 5: think they attempted to do more about city versus country. Yes, 1369 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 5: and really country where it's like let's go hunting and 1370 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 5: eel grabbing, right, you knowing. 1371 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: Also like I'm going to beat you in arm wrestling. 1372 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a better shot than you. I'm 1373 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: going to wrestle eels like things where it's like, wow, 1374 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: you you are really like the manliest bro I could 1375 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: ever hang out with. 1376 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 5: Right, And maybe what's interesting is the bet storyline. What 1377 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 5: essentially they're saying, if you look at it this way, 1378 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 5: is that to Lannie, gender doesn't matter at all. 1379 01:02:59,120 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 2: It's all blur. 1380 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 5: If you're hanging out, having a good time and doing 1381 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 5: what you love. Where in the A storyline, gender was 1382 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 5: very very important, so it was kind of the Yeah, 1383 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 5: it was a weird balance between the two. Maybe you're right, 1384 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 5: maybe that's why they did need the B storyline writers, 1385 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 5: because there is that kind of balance. 1386 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 2: But I just wanted to see more. 1387 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 4: At your point in some way, right, its like it's 1388 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 4: a reverse like she has to learn how to be 1389 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 4: a woman, right, she has to learn how to think 1390 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 4: like a man. Yes, that's that's more. He's not trying 1391 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 4: to tell her to be more feminine. 1392 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, he is trying to tell her you're scaring them off, 1393 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,439 Speaker 1: and the way you're starring them off is by being 1394 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: more manly than they and they are kind. 1395 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 4: Of but but he's not even yeah, yeah, he's trying 1396 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 4: to put her in the mindset of like how a 1397 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 4: man perceives her or how a man, which is. 1398 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 3: Like too manly. 1399 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: You're punching me and it hurts, and your idea the 1400 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,919 Speaker 1: time shunting and wrestling eels, which like maybe I would 1401 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 1: want to do with my bros, but isn't what I 1402 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: want to spend my time with a lady friend, do it, right? 1403 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 5: But They easily could have taken this storyline and gone, 1404 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 5: we need to put you in a dress and you 1405 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 5: need to learn. 1406 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 3: How to you know, I'm glad they didn't do that. 1407 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 1408 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 4: I'm so glad they didn't go It wasn't Eric wasn't 1409 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 4: teaching her to be more feminine, right, It wasn't like 1410 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 4: you need to be more of a girl. 1411 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 2: It was just you need to tell right, your shirt's 1412 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 2: too big. 1413 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 4: Never came out of Eric's mountain, right, But yeah, you 1414 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 4: could see they could have gone that route where it's like, well, 1415 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 4: we got to put you in a dress. It could 1416 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 4: have been that same thing, and thankfully they didn't go 1417 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 4: that route. 1418 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,479 Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't. You're right. 1419 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: Lonnie touches Eric's flannel. That's the nicest shirt. I'd love 1420 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: to get one for my brother Buck. 1421 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 3: Who makes that? 1422 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: Eric tells her some shirt guy, and Lonnie takes the 1423 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: liberty of checking the tag. She's all over him trying 1424 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: to find the label, and Eric is soaking in every minute. 1425 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 1: She stops herself and realizes, you know what I'm doing. 1426 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Eric dreamily responds, just what God intended. Lonnie says, no, 1427 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm being too friendly again, and you were just about 1428 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: to tell me that, weren't you. And the reason this 1429 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: part doesn't really work is that her previous friend over 1430 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: friendliness had nothing to do with being too physical. 1431 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 4: No, no, and she's not scaring him away, she's actually 1432 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:13,919 Speaker 4: drawing him. 1433 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: Right, So it's actually like, I know, this part didn't 1434 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: really work. You were just about to tell me that, 1435 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: weren't you. Eric lies, yes, Lonnie admits I never would 1436 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: have thought that being friendly could drive people away. I 1437 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: guess friendliness is just different between men and women. Eric 1438 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 1: agrees and steps back a respectable distance, sticking out his 1439 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: hand for a handshake. Instead, she grabs his hand and 1440 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 1: politely says, my name is Lonnie Bowden, and I will 1441 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: do whatever I can not to physically invade your personal space. 1442 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 1: Perhaps we can discuss your career goals over a great 1443 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: knee high. Eric gives her a fake laugh and utters. 1444 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,919 Speaker 3: What have I done? And I like this part. 1445 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: I love the idea where if he could have set 1446 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: her up with somebody, if there was some sort of 1447 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: advice where now he was actually losing his chances with her. 1448 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that that part's great. 1449 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 5: But instead what they did was we never see her again, right, 1450 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 5: exactly so that's I do like to think that grape 1451 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 5: knee high was a mash reference. 1452 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm hoping it has to be, because 1453 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 3: what is it. 1454 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 2: Grape knee Hi's a drink. Okay, you've never had greape 1455 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 2: knee high? You know who love? 1456 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 5: Grape knee high is rider because it's all it's a no, 1457 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 5: it's a soda. It's like grape soda. But it almost 1458 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 5: has the same kind of backbite as that ginger beer 1459 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 5: that you like. 1460 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 2: So it's like a grape kind of But yeah, from. 1461 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 4: Paper Moon, eat your Coney Island, drink your knee high Moon, right, No, please, 1462 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 4: are you serious? 1463 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 2: It's like the greatest movie ever. Oh man to movie 1464 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 2: for a rider? Please party? Yes, oh my god. Okay, 1465 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 2: you will love it. I'll bring the I'll bring grape 1466 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 2: knee high. 1467 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 3: Right, you'll bring the movie. 1468 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Chubby's the only place a day can happen. Veronica and 1469 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: Gary are sitting next to each other in a booth 1470 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 1: near the OJ Jersey when Gary says, this has been 1471 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: a terrific evening and you are just great. 1472 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 2: On the same side of the back. 1473 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're committed again. I love how Sean is committed 1474 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 5: to this whole thing. 1475 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 2: It's great. 1476 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Veronica is visibly nervous, but Gary continues, how is 1477 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 1: it that someone like you doesn't have a boyfriend. She laughs, 1478 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: I haven't really been looking for a boyfriend because I've. 1479 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 3: Just been going through a lot of changes. 1480 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Gary assures her, anytime you want to talk, I'm here 1481 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: to listen. She thanks him, admiring his kindness, and it 1482 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: seems as though he's developing a bit of a crush. 1483 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Then she snaps out of it. I've got to have 1484 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 1: some food. 1485 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 3: Gary takes charge. 1486 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 2: Call that beat that and it was she gets some food, 1487 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 2: I get some food. It was I love it. 1488 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 4: So it's very like, I'm not quite it's funny. It's 1489 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 4: just like I'm getting caught up in the. 1490 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 2: Moment with Yes, you're getting caught up in Yeah, it's great. 1491 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 3: It's great because. 1492 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 1: It's also I love that like your the Veronica slash 1493 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: Sean thought process is like, maybe I'm feeling faint, maybe 1494 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I need to eat, Maybe maybe I need to eat something. 1495 01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 3: It's just so funny. 1496 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: And then Corey bursts in from the kitchen, now wearing 1497 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: a curly wig and a king waitress uniform. 1498 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 3: In a husky voice, she asks how you're doing honey. 1499 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Topanga's at a nearby table watching on and is speechless 1500 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: and bemused. Her eyes are popping out of her head. 1501 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 4: Veronica, a little explanation like what was like? 1502 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 2: What? 1503 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 4: What is? 1504 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 2: What is Corey's playing here? 1505 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 1: I know, I think just wanted to be involved, just 1506 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: to be involved. But you're right, there's no setup, like 1507 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 1: why was this necessary? 1508 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 4: Just like one little like like sean to I mean, 1509 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 4: I guess I do say, like Corey, what are you doing? 1510 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 3: So you're insane? 1511 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 4: Right? But wouldn't it be great if he was like 1512 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,679 Speaker 4: this is my research, like I have to be here? Yeah, 1513 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, like just some explanation of like he's 1514 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:50,679 Speaker 4: there to be undercover also to get the or whatever. 1515 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 4: But instead it's just like and I guess they just 1516 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 4: were like no, it's just too funny, doesn't It doesn't matter? 1517 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 2: But I should have been a side with Topanga. What 1518 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 2: are you doing research? That's exactly my job. 1519 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm the journalist. I'm the one who has to write 1520 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 4: the article. I might as well, yeah, because it is 1521 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 4: weird that Shawn's doing all the undercover journalism, and then. 1522 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 2: But then Corey is still going to. 1523 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 4: Be an easy thing to just rationalize, like I had 1524 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 4: to go under cover his korra in order. 1525 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,919 Speaker 3: To be it's possible. 1526 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: They just figured that's obvious, Like we've already discussed this. 1527 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,879 Speaker 1: The whole scene of them getting dressed in the women's 1528 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: clothes was all about I've got to do this for 1529 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:27,759 Speaker 1: my research. 1530 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 4: But then and then Sean not knowing that he was 1531 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 4: going to show up, is weird, Like right, exactly like 1532 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 4: Sewan and Tapanga should be like here comes Corey in him. 1533 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: Even at the end of the scene where you got 1534 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,799 Speaker 1: the where you got the the date, if. 1535 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 3: There had just been a little bit now we hatch 1536 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 3: our plan where it's. 1537 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,439 Speaker 4: Like and also like what happened between Corey dressing as 1538 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:49,959 Speaker 4: a woman before and Corey. 1539 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: Dressing as a woman now, that makes him think a. 1540 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 4: Conversation of like, well, you can't be attractive enough to 1541 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 4: be the bait, but you can't get the bait, so 1542 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 4: you have to do something else in order to get 1543 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 4: this article. That's all it would have taken, is like 1544 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 4: one conversation like we gotta find a role. 1545 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 2: You know, you have to go on to cover two. 1546 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 5: We'll figure it out or yeah, or it's just Sean 1547 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 5: ending the last scene going I can't. 1548 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 2: I can't do this alone. I can't. Don't worry, you won't. 1549 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 2: He won't be alone. Yeah, you won't be alone. 1550 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, Yeah, and then not being surprised that 1551 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 4: he's it's weird that I'm surprised. I guess. 1552 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the thing. 1553 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: If you weren't surprised, I would think all of that 1554 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: happened off screen. 1555 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 3: And I buy it, And I'm. 1556 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:28,640 Speaker 4: In Corey rescuing me yet whatever, Yeah. 1557 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 1: So, Veronica whispers Corey, and he corrects her. Core Rah, 1558 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 1: I'll be your waitress this evening. Corey remarks, I come 1559 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 1: in here a lot. I've never seen you before. Chorus 1560 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: snaps back, quit hitting on me. Just just so funny, 1561 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 1: She laughs, just kidding, it's my first night. 1562 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 3: She winks at Gary. 1563 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: Veronica shakes her head and says under her breath, you're insane. 1564 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 3: Cora asks to take their order. Baby Gary goes first. 1565 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,919 Speaker 1: My usual, a double chili burger and one chocolate milkshake 1566 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 1: with two straws. Veronica says, I'll have the same, and 1567 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 1: a steak and a steak. Aura and Gary are surprised 1568 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: by this appetite. 1569 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,719 Speaker 4: The association of like masculinity with meat steak. 1570 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 1: But the thing, I like, it's not about masculinity. For me, 1571 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 1: it was all about Seawn. He's not a free meal. Yeah, 1572 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: it's to me. It was just like, this is what 1573 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Seawn would do. 1574 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean I mean I just know, 1575 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 4: having been a vegetarian for so much, it was like 1576 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 4: it was an immediate opportunity for people to question my 1577 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 4: masculinity or your sexuality or my sexuality erect right. Like 1578 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,759 Speaker 4: it was always like, especially in the late nineties early 1579 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 4: oft it was like immediately like, oh, well you must 1580 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:40,719 Speaker 4: be gay. 1581 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Or you're turning into a woman, or. 1582 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 4: Some joke or some teasing immediately followed the fact that 1583 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:46,560 Speaker 4: you're a vegetarian. 1584 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 3: But in this case, it does also work for Sewan. 1585 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 1: I think Sean, Yeah, I mean it totally works. 1586 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:58,760 Speaker 4: You're trying to increase atosterone because of meat consumption. Meat, 1587 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 4: that is true, so yeah, but it's it just struck 1588 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 4: me at this. I was like, this is such a 1589 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,880 Speaker 4: kind of obvious, easy joke. 1590 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: But yes, but I did. I thought of it as 1591 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 1: an easy Sean joke, and I liked it. 1592 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he wanted extra food like him. 1593 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had we had the joke about you coming 1594 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: in when Corey and you were like, what is this 1595 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: When he has the burger I wasn't gonna. 1596 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 3: I was gonna and. 1597 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: Then it's cut in half and you want to pick 1598 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:26,680 Speaker 1: it up and eat half of it, and it's like, 1599 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,719 Speaker 1: to me, it works perfectly for Sean. 1600 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that take, but I think I think 1601 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,879 Speaker 4: there's also this extra layer of like, right, and you. 1602 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: Have a personal bias about it because you had been 1603 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 1: through it in your life, so it struck you. 1604 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Corra Cora has to comment on it. 1605 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 4: You got quite an appetite, like I don't know, like 1606 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 4: he's eating too much for a woman, and he's eating 1607 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 4: not womanly food. 1608 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 2: That is the joke. As part of the joke. 1609 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying that Sean is poor and 1610 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 4: wants as much food as you can get for out 1611 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 4: of this guy, But there's also another layer of like 1612 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 4: that is not very seemly for being for ronic. 1613 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, there's definitely commentary on the fact that women 1614 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,679 Speaker 1: would probably not consume in one meal a steak plus 1615 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 1: a double chili cheeseburger. But when I felt like there's 1616 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 1: the obvious joke, I actually thought that's the obvious Sean moment, 1617 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: which I thought was cute. It did not in any 1618 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 1: way make me think, ugh, stereotypical men eat and women 1619 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 1: need to eat a salad. I didn't think that. I 1620 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 1: thought cute, cute that Sean is like, yeah, I got 1621 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 1: you have a steak. I'm at Chubby's and somebody else 1622 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: is paying great. So Corey and Gary are surprised by 1623 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: this appetite. Corey pinches Veronica's cheeks. Aren't you the voracious 1624 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: little eater? 1625 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 3: Corey. 1626 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,879 Speaker 1: Cora walks away, waving and mouthing hi babe to Tapanga. 1627 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 1: As she passes to Panga, stares back in awe with 1628 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 1: a huge smile on her face. Gary puts his arm 1629 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: around Veronica. Are you having a good time? She admits, 1630 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: a little trouble breathing. You're crowding me a bit. Gary 1631 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: insists you're probably just tense. How about I rub your shoulders. 1632 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 1: She uncomfortably mentions, I didn't ask you to do that. 1633 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: Gary brushes it off, but doesn't it feel good? Veronica 1634 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: shoves him. You're not listening to me, Gary laughs, you're 1635 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,600 Speaker 1: a strong one. Yeah, I play a little field hockey. 1636 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 3: She says. 1637 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 1: Gary mentions he knew that because the first thing he 1638 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 1: noticed or Veronica's legs. He slides his hand down her 1639 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,760 Speaker 1: thigh and Veronica immediately jumps up. 1640 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,799 Speaker 3: She yells, you just don't listen. 1641 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 1: You're too busy planning your next move to hear us 1642 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: say no, He pulls the same move Sean did earlier 1643 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: in the episode, not listening what. Veronica grabs her purse 1644 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 1: and storms away. Kora stops her and asks, now in 1645 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Corey's voice, what happened? Sean breaks character, he touched me 1646 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: on my knee? What makes him think that that it's 1647 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 1: his knee? To Pega wonders, well, maybe you sent him 1648 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 1: a signal, and Seawan argues, the only signal I sent him. 1649 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 1650 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 4: It's amazing between the three of us, and like the 1651 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 4: way that we're able to have. 1652 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 2: The it's just believable. 1653 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 4: And yet it's perfectly to the debate that started the episode, 1654 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 4: and it feels like Cory and I mean, Topanga and 1655 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 4: Sean are seeing each other's point. It's just great. 1656 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 5: Yes, and Pega is also challenging him in a really 1657 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 5: interesting way, like, well, maybe sent a signal? 1658 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Like he can that she doesn't. She doesn't like that 1659 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,680 Speaker 1: all the time accusatory. 1660 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 4: She's letting him draw it out very intelligently, so he 1661 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 4: has to come to those own. 1662 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, it's great, Sean argues. 1663 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: The only signal I sent him was to stop it 1664 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,720 Speaker 1: to Panga points out, and he didn't listen. Sean explains, 1665 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 1: I'm not like that and I never will be again. 1666 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 4: Right before a really nice little revision that Sean makes. 1667 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 4: It's like this micro it's like, I'm not like that, 1668 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 4: and then realizing like, oh my god, I might have been. 1669 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 3: I may realize it. 1670 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 4: I may have been, like I'm not all and so 1671 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 4: he makes the sort of immediate adjustment. 1672 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 5: Doesn't he say it twice? Which I think is even better. 1673 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,679 Speaker 5: Doesn't he say I'm not like that, I'm not I'll 1674 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 5: never be like that again. And it's the second I'm 1675 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 5: not that just sold the whole thing for me, where 1676 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 5: it's like now he's first he just says it because 1677 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 5: he's it's a knee jerk reaction, well I'm not like that, 1678 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 5: and then it's trying to convince yourself right, and then 1679 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 5: it's the realization that maybe I was. 1680 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 2: And it all happens that fast. It's great, so well done. 1681 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 2: Just yeah, like one, that's only three seconds. 1682 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, And then right before Gary walks up, Sean 1683 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 1: wants to quit, but Corey reminds them they have an 1684 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 1: article to finish. Sean's eye, I should have worn a 1685 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: pant suit, which great, gosh, it's so great. Then Gary arrives. 1686 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Look sorry, I got a little aggressive. Nobody respects women 1687 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 1: more than me. 1688 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 3: Great, ride. 1689 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 2: Me too, Like I love my mother. 1690 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,640 Speaker 4: I would never be any guy ever, said. 1691 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 2: Well, I have the mom, I have it. Shut up, 1692 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 2: but has nothing to do with exact women. 1693 01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 4: You're actually attracted to her inner relationship like stop. 1694 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 3: Stop, nobody respects women more than me. You forgive me. 1695 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: Chorus speaks on her behalf. Of course she forgives you. 1696 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,679 Speaker 1: You two are just adorable together. Gary extends and offered 1697 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 1: to Veronica, how about I teach you how to play foosball? 1698 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 1: She smirks, how about I teach you? She glides away 1699 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 1: and Gary laughs Yeah right. They walk away, and Chorus 1700 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: starts to complain pulling at her clothes. 1701 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 3: My hosiery is bunching. 1702 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,880 Speaker 2: We said we would. We said that for the next 1703 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 2: four years. 1704 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for the rest, for the rest of our lives. 1705 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 2: We would say that. 1706 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Veronica leads Gary to the foosball table and he gives 1707 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 1: a very simplified explanation of how to play the game. 1708 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 1: Veronica asks, like this, and effortlessly scores a goal, which 1709 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: is wrong. 1710 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 4: By the way, I don't think you're not technically you're 1711 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 4: not allowed to spin. 1712 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 2: You can't spin the handle. 1713 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 4: No, that's playing football, absolutely wrong. 1714 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yeah. 1715 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 4: So the fact that Sean's supposed to be good on it, right, 1716 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 4: aggressive and fast and hard, spin them, spoon them. 1717 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 1: Gary looks at her and awe kind of like that. 1718 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Veronica jokes, I can go a little easier. 1719 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 3: If you want. 1720 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 1: Gary brushes her off. Just take your next shot. He 1721 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: blocks her shot, and she gives him admiration on the 1722 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 1: way he blocked it. He asks, oh, you like that, 1723 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 1: Let me show you how I did it. He walks 1724 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: over to Veronica, sliding his hand down her arms and 1725 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,600 Speaker 1: positioning himself directly behind her to show her how to 1726 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 1: do it. He advises, what you need to have is 1727 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 1: a real light touch. Then he grabs her hips and 1728 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 1: Veronica shoves him off. Gary defends himself. I'm just showing 1729 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 1: you how to play the game. Veronica fights back, I 1730 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,160 Speaker 1: know how to play the game. He sarcastically tells her, 1731 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 1: I could tell by the way you're dressed. Veronica answers, 1732 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to look nice. Gary compliments her and 1733 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 1: grabs her shoulders. She reminds him not to touch her. 1734 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Gary holds his hands up dramatically. Okay, don't like to 1735 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 1: be touched. Veronica's getting mad. Did it ever occur to 1736 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,719 Speaker 1: you that I might be a nice girl? 1737 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,839 Speaker 2: No, leather jacket. 1738 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 3: I know. 1739 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't like this one part of the writing that 1740 01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 1: the implication is nice girls, nice girls don't want to 1741 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: ever make out or fool around on a first date. 1742 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 3: That part maybe could have, but. 1743 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 4: You're not a nice girl. It's then okay to just 1744 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,320 Speaker 4: go over and manhandle you. 1745 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: That's the other right, exactly that either way, Yeah, that 1746 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,560 Speaker 1: the only reason you're not allowed to do this is 1747 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:17,479 Speaker 1: because I'm a nice girl. 1748 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1749 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 1: Gary argues, No, what I thought was no. What I 1750 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 1: thought was that you'd be into guys. But I guess 1751 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: you're not. I guess you prefer girls for a corresponds 1752 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,599 Speaker 1: Now in Shawn's voice. As a matter of fact, I do, 1753 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Gary shocked. What Sean reiterates, I said, as a matter 1754 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 1: of fact, and punches Gary directly in the face. 1755 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 2: I do one of the few moments of violence. 1756 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, an actual punch, not a headlocker, an actual punch 1757 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,520 Speaker 5: who headlocks. 1758 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 3: Gary, lays on the floor in pain. 1759 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 2: Head off, jerk store. 1760 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,680 Speaker 1: Gary lay's on the floor and pain. What was that 1761 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 1: for for every girl I've ever known? Then Cora walks over, 1762 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 1: Please pay it the register, honey, and tipping is not 1763 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 1: a city in China. She rips off the receipt and 1764 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 1: throws it onto Gary. Coorra locks arms with Veronica. Come on, honey, 1765 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 1: we're out of here. Then Corera grabs Tapanga's arms and 1766 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,120 Speaker 1: the three of them walk out proudly. And I love 1767 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 1: that little ending to our story. 1768 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 5: And it was like, David, let's go. And then boom 1769 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 5: their credits to there are Oh. I thought there's going 1770 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 5: to be more. 1771 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 2: I was hoping that was going to be more. 1772 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 1: And then we're in the tag in the school hallway. 1773 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 1: The school newspaper's big headline is chick Like Me, and 1774 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: above it is a picture of Veronica and Coorra. Everyone 1775 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,719 Speaker 1: is reading it, including Sean and Corey, who are surrounded 1776 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 1: by girls taking a look. Phoene waltz up applauding them. 1777 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: Seems the whole school is talking about it, and if 1778 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 1: I do say so myself, excellent article, though he shakes 1779 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 1: his head troubling photographs. Tapega and Debbie excitedly joined them. 1780 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 1: Topanga is so. 1781 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 3: Proud of Corey. 1782 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Corey shrugs, well, I am a journalist, dag nabbitt. Debbie 1783 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 1: then thanks him for what he did. Sean responds, not necessary. 1784 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 1: I learned a lot. In fact, of all the guys around, 1785 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 1: I'd say I'm the world's most perfect date right now. 1786 01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 4: A way to Penga gives Corey a lot of great 1787 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 4: Sean cam up with the idea and. 1788 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 2: Exactly kind of interesting, like. 1789 01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 1: We have to keep the boy in the storyline to 1790 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,599 Speaker 1: Pega has but it's his his wrote he wrote the article. 1791 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 1: So the whole idea at the beginning of it was 1792 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: he should write something of substance, so he sure Sean okayt. 1793 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 2: Him to do it, and then like when he would 1794 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 2: he couldn't do. 1795 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Debbie ads, of all the girls around, I could probably 1796 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 1: use a perfect date right now. So what do you 1797 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 1: have in mind? Sean suggests we could start with an 1798 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 1: evening of good conversation. Debbie throws in and a genuine 1799 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 1: connection with another human being. Sean says, I'm your boy. 1800 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,720 Speaker 1: Debbie holds out her hand and Sean grabs it. They 1801 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,640 Speaker 1: walk away happily together. The audience woos them loudly. Is 1802 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 1: to Panga and Corey watched the couple with smiles on 1803 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 1: their faces. Corey's face turns into a painful grimace as 1804 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 1: he scratches his pants. Panga asks what's wrong, and he 1805 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 1: says in his Cora voice, my hosiery is still bunch, 1806 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 1: and there you have it. 1807 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 3: There you go. This was, like we said at the beginning. 1808 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 1: I think this was while I was watching it, I 1809 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 1: was so enjoying it. I was enjoying the story, I 1810 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: was enjoying the relationships. I was enjoying the way it 1811 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 1: was written. You could play this episode right now and 1812 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 1: it would be it would feel timely and relevant and 1813 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 1: smart and funny and yeah. 1814 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,799 Speaker 3: I just overall really really. 1815 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,599 Speaker 2: Season four, Season four, just continuing one after another. 1816 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 3: It's great, britty darn great. 1817 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode 1818 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 1: of Podmeets World. Our next episode recap will be season four, 1819 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:41,800 Speaker 1: episode sixteen. 1820 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,800 Speaker 3: A Long Walk to Pittsburgh, Part one. 1821 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Wow one after another bang. 1822 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 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