Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? All right, you guys, Today we have
Speaker 1: an incredible guest. She was the number one guest that
Speaker 1: I wanted to have when I started the podcast.
Speaker 2: She's a big, big.
Speaker 1: Fan of Sex and the City and we're a big, big, big.
Speaker 3: Fan of hers.
Speaker 1: She's a rapper, a songwriter, an actress, a cultural icon,
Speaker 1: Grammy Award winning, multi platinum recording artist, and cultural powerhouse
Speaker 1: in every way.
Speaker 2: Meghan the Stallion, I'm like really gagging right now, like, oh.
Speaker 3: My God, I'm gagging that you're here.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into some things.
Speaker 1: So Megan, let me tell you first that when I
Speaker 1: was thinking about doing this podcast is the week that
Speaker 1: we ran into you in New York at the Michael
Speaker 1: Corse event. Do you remember the Michael Cores events I.
Speaker 2: Do with Sir Jessica, And I was sitting at the
Speaker 2: table like, wow, I'm really a New York babe exactly.
Speaker 2: The girls, yes, with the dolls.
Speaker 3: Here with us.
Speaker 1: We had gotten up at four in the morning, we
Speaker 1: had that big event, and we love Michael for a
Speaker 1: long time, love Michael, love Michael so much.
Speaker 3: And I had gone to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I had come back Sarah and I had I think
Speaker 1: had a four am call at right.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: It make us sack.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, I know.
Speaker 3: Right, So we were a little t job yeah that
Speaker 3: job got job.
Speaker 1: We were a little tired, but we want to of course,
Speaker 1: it was a big thing for us to be there.
Speaker 1: And Cynthia was sitting on my left and Michael, Michael
Speaker 1: of course was sitting on my right. Went to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: come back and I was like, who's this tall goddess
Speaker 1: lady next to Michael.
Speaker 3: Course, and it was Megan Stella.
Speaker 1: And it was when they had come to me about
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. And then right after that, like days later,
Speaker 1: your fallon ran where you Literally.
Speaker 2: I was like I just saw them, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: and to me.
Speaker 3: So you have been my number one dream guest.
Speaker 2: Believe I'm like sitting here talking to you so casually,
Speaker 2: like I feel like we should have been like outside
Speaker 2: having coffee or.
Speaker 1: Something that's true that would be fun, would be next
Speaker 1: time we can walk and talk.
Speaker 2: Yes, we can walk and talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you're ready. I'm here, You're You're born ready
Speaker 3: for you, honey. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: This is a famous This is my skirt I wore
Speaker 1: when I met Trey. This is the actual skirt when
Speaker 1: I fell in the street.
Speaker 2: Do you remember, Yeah, really gagging because like you look
Speaker 2: exactly the same. Thank you so much, and you act
Speaker 2: exactly I do.
Speaker 3: Kind of. I don't tell anyone.
Speaker 2: Secret people, it's a secret. It's a secret. Okay.
Speaker 1: So when you went on follin the thing that I
Speaker 1: love so much many things, obviously because you are number one,
Speaker 1: so inspiring and amazing and fabulous and powerful and really
Speaker 1: just the epitome in so many ways of what we
Speaker 1: wanted to create when we started the show. That kind
Speaker 1: of wasn't really out there, you know, especially in television.
Speaker 1: So from that perspective, I love you anyway. And then
Speaker 1: just to hear you with your incredibly well thought out,
Speaker 1: well researched points on all of us.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it, listen.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about it, okay, and I want
Speaker 1: to hear if there are any updates. So let's just
Speaker 1: rehash in case anyone missed that. Okay, So you just
Speaker 1: discovered the show when.
Speaker 2: Probably like well, I've always known what the show was,
Speaker 2: but like as a child, like you watch it and
Speaker 2: it's going over your head. You don't know what. I'm
Speaker 2: a little thing. I don't know what y'all talking about.
Speaker 2: But I rewatched it turning twenty nine and I'm looking
Speaker 2: at the show and I'm like, wait a minute, nobody
Speaker 2: told me six and the city was this damn good.
Speaker 2: So I'm watching and I needed to rewatch it a
Speaker 2: few times so I could really get into everybody. But
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody already has their favorite characters, like
Speaker 2: and I'm late to the party. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: everybody's favorite character is Carrie. Okay, well, no, like, Charlotte
Speaker 2: and Samantha are my favorite characters. Okay, I like and
Speaker 2: no shade to carry. I definitely love Carrie. We love
Speaker 2: you the but Carrie, she just makes bad decisions all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know you're saying.
Speaker 1: When I'm rewatching it myself, I am kind of shocked.
Speaker 2: Like you are literally running into the same wall thinking
Speaker 2: you're gonna turn into a ghost and walk through it.
Speaker 2: I don't understand. That's like, that's the definition of insanity.
Speaker 1: That is a good point.
Speaker 2: I loved how well dressed this insane person was, Like
Speaker 2: that's so I give Carrie like my favorite character dressing wise, right, well, well,
Speaker 2: yeah she was. She was very well dressed, a very
Speaker 2: well dressed crazy person.
Speaker 3: Sarah has incredible style.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Carry does also, and it's eclectic and fun.
Speaker 2: But like that part. At first, I thought I didn't
Speaker 2: like Samantha right, Like, in the first couple of episodes,
Speaker 2: I was like, why are they making it seem like
Speaker 2: sex is her whole life? But as I kept watching,
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, baby, she in sex like
Speaker 2: and she puts her foot down. I feel like that
Speaker 2: to me. She owns her body, she knows what she wants.
Speaker 1: She's very confident, unapologetic.
Speaker 2: She's unapologeticing her and she wasn't letting these men stop
Speaker 2: all stop, all over her. That's me. So I was
Speaker 2: like him, am I Samantha? But then you was kind
Speaker 2: of crazy too?
Speaker 3: But I have my crazy element, but it was.
Speaker 2: Like it was logical crazy. She's very emotional. Yes, that's me,
Speaker 2: is it? That's me? I get emotional? Yeah, me too,
Speaker 2: Like it's okay to be irrational sometimes that's true. So
Speaker 2: I started doing therapy and my therapy. My therapy, my
Speaker 2: therapist tells me you think a lot with your emotional
Speaker 2: mind and not your logical mind. And I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what, hell yeah, but also you're a creative so
Speaker 2: she she understands that part as well. But I feel
Speaker 2: like that that was Charlotte, Like I feel like she
Speaker 2: her emotional mind, which is why I'm relating so much.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, y'all can't count her out. Like you
Speaker 2: were super sexy too, Thank you so much, And I
Speaker 2: feel like that, yeah, very sexy. Wow, he's always on point.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I just love you. I don't believe we're just having
Speaker 2: this conversation.
Speaker 1: No, I know, and I mean I feel the same
Speaker 1: about you. I feel I mean, I also did like
Speaker 1: a like a crash course in all the Megan Castlian everything. Yes,
Speaker 1: your documentary is incredible. There's so many like when you
Speaker 1: are out there chanting to those like, I mean, how
Speaker 1: many people are in your like it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I don't even know the largest crowd I've ever performed to.
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly amazing.
Speaker 1: And you're saying my body my choice, Oh yes, like
Speaker 1: it was. I was like just so impressed with you
Speaker 1: in so many ways. I mean, I'm so impressed with you,
Speaker 1: just meeting you, you're so present. But anyway, it's so
Speaker 1: amazing to feel the connectedness of the different women in
Speaker 1: our in our in our lives, our cultural lives, but
Speaker 1: also when you get to meet them and you just
Speaker 1: feel like the energy of like empowerment and freedom and
Speaker 1: support of each other is so important. And I think
Speaker 1: that really is the crux of what we wanted to
Speaker 1: do in the show. Certainly over time and it's what
Speaker 1: we were able to do. But in the beginning you
Speaker 1: can see that we're we're.
Speaker 3: Forming it, you know.
Speaker 1: So when I don't watch exactly not quite, you know,
Speaker 1: we're like, it's coming, it's coming together.
Speaker 2: There was one character I left out that I really
Speaker 2: really like Steve Steve. I know, it's like nobody is
Speaker 2: talking about how Steve is like top three characters on
Speaker 2: I'm with You.
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with fantastic actor and so good.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Part of my thing of having this is to get
Speaker 1: to talk about the themes with people who like yourself,
Speaker 1: who've just found the show relatively recently, right in our
Speaker 1: very long history of doing the show, and because it's
Speaker 1: on Netflix and all the youngsters are watching it, which
Speaker 1: is so great for us, and we're just rising.
Speaker 2: Imagine watching the show for the first time, like I
Speaker 2: was glued to the TV. Love it, And sometimes I
Speaker 2: still have to go back and rewatch it, like just
Speaker 2: to make sure I'm walking the right course.
Speaker 3: Love it. Love it.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the movies yet?
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is what people keep telling me I
Speaker 2: need to get into. I have not watched the movies yet.
Speaker 2: I have not watched the movies. I'll be busy, but no,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I know we need them to be download it on
Speaker 1: your ipade, you watch it, Okay, great because and then
Speaker 1: you can come back and talk to me about it,
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 2: Know, I know, okay, but it was great.
Speaker 3: But when we ended the.
Speaker 1: Series, we thought we were going to do a movie,
Speaker 1: so we did stop on the street on our final
Speaker 1: scene like it was the end of our lives. But
Speaker 1: we also, in our hearts really believed we would get
Speaker 1: to do a film. Now, it didn't take more years
Speaker 1: than we thought. We thought we would be doing a film, like.
Speaker 2: Within the year exactly, just left us hanging.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Yeah, the ending was tricky.
Speaker 2: Literally go watch the movie right now. But at the time,
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Well at the time it was it was hard to
Speaker 1: end the show, but it's also just very hard to
Speaker 1: make a show like ongoingly make a show instead of just.
Speaker 2: Baby not attacking all in the streets while y'all were
Speaker 2: feeling this.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we had a lot of security by that point.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not attacking, but I mean, like we're crying, Okay,
Speaker 2: people were crying. There's a lot of would have been
Speaker 2: like walking on purpose.
Speaker 1: We still when we're shooting in just like that, we
Speaker 1: have like a couple hundred people and they're so great.
Speaker 1: They're really quiet when we roll action. It's so adorable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be like one hundred degrees.
Speaker 3: Now they're just sweating.
Speaker 2: That would be me.
Speaker 1: It's so cute, ah, so sweet. I mean, it's really nice.
Speaker 1: And sometimes we have when I look back at the show,
Speaker 1: and this particular you're at the beginning of the second
Speaker 1: season right now in the rewatch, not that we have
Speaker 1: to rewatch, but.
Speaker 3: There's real people.
Speaker 1: There's shots where there those are real New Yorkers walking
Speaker 1: down the street.
Speaker 2: And they probably looked at that episode and was like,
Speaker 2: that's oh ye what I did today.
Speaker 3: Totally. They might not have even known because sometimes if.
Speaker 1: We had a really good director he was just set
Speaker 1: up like blocks away and you would be walking and
Speaker 1: as an actor, you're just trying to tell like am
Speaker 1: I in the spot I'm supposed to be and I
Speaker 1: have no idea and just regular people are walking by because.
Speaker 3: We wanted it to be real.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't do it that way anymore, Carrie, let's
Speaker 1: discuss carry out length, because when we were doing the
Speaker 1: show in the right and for one thing, I just
Speaker 1: want to say, we probably would not still have a
Speaker 1: show if Carrie weren't kind of messed up.
Speaker 2: Right now, she's carrying it. I'm talking just like personally
Speaker 2: watching her if if say, if this was a real scenario,
Speaker 2: I would not be her friend. But I like watching
Speaker 2: the show though, because I love the drama. I love
Speaker 2: the mess. I love that you keep making the same
Speaker 2: mistake over and over because hopefully you're going to change
Speaker 2: it for the better, but you don't.
Speaker 3: But that's the show I mean kind of, I mean
Speaker 3: she does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing I think about Carrie, and I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to be objective, right because like to me,
Speaker 1: because they know, Sir Jessica, they're bled together. I can't
Speaker 1: separate really, right, So like when I'm looking back at
Speaker 1: the first season, I am.
Speaker 3: Thinking like, what is she doing? What is she doing?
Speaker 1: I never thought that at the time, because I would
Speaker 1: just read the script and think of its great, and
Speaker 1: Charlotte was PROFI it's great, right, right, right?
Speaker 3: But I mean I.
Speaker 1: Didn't look at it like objectively, do I agree with this?
Speaker 1: Do I not agree with this? I didn't think any
Speaker 1: of those things. I'm just so excited, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was like, I love this. I just wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to try to make turloa as
Speaker 1: good as that you make you thank you so. And
Speaker 1: Charlotte is pro big, right, so I was pro big.
Speaker 2: I'm not pro big, I know. Like, and you would
Speaker 2: think that a group of friends would be like, friend, no, stop,
Speaker 2: you're literally trying to change something that you can't make
Speaker 2: this guy not be blue. Okay, the s guy's always
Speaker 2: going to be blue. He's always going to be just like.
Speaker 1: That, right, So that's what you say to your friend, Yes,
Speaker 1: stop hurting yourself. Like And when I had Sir Jessica
Speaker 1: on the podcast, I tried to talk to her about this,
Speaker 1: you know, and basically what she said she explained him
Speaker 1: and then I was like, okay, so you now explained him,
Speaker 1: But let's talk about you and why you think because
Speaker 1: it wasn't her, it's Carrie, obviously, But why was Carrie
Speaker 1: so hooked?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Why did Carrie put up with so much?
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't like what Carrie is doing from a
Speaker 2: personal experience, like I could see myself and her a
Speaker 2: little bit, like dealing with a very toxic man like
Speaker 2: and you've done it before, and you can see some
Speaker 2: making a mistake. You see her hurting herself, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: stop doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that way when I look back now too.
Speaker 2: Yes, you don't have to do this. You know, this
Speaker 2: is a choice. This pain is a choice. And she
Speaker 2: just had a lot of self inflicted emotional distress. And
Speaker 2: none of her homegirls besides Miranda, she was never That's
Speaker 2: the one thing that I was down with her because
Speaker 2: she was not my favorite either.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I heard you say that you
Speaker 1: always complain it.
Speaker 3: She is really nice in real life.
Speaker 1: So I was thinking we were talking about Big, which
Speaker 1: obviously we could talk a lot about, but then I
Speaker 1: was also curious about Aiden.
Speaker 2: Clearly Aiden was the correct choice, but women we like
Speaker 2: the bad boy like we like, I feel like we
Speaker 2: like to torture ourselves a little bit. Like if he's
Speaker 2: fine and he's sexy and he's kind of not giving
Speaker 2: me exactly what I want, like he's still let me know,
Speaker 2: Like that's where I'm gonna go, Chase, Is that crazy?
Speaker 2: But the person who literally gives you princess treatment and
Speaker 2: barely let your feet touch the ground and it's just
Speaker 2: so super sweet, it's kind of like you're so nice, Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you cute, But like, clearly Aiden was the person
Speaker 2: that she should have been with got it and he
Speaker 2: gave you multiple chances, and you still.
Speaker 1: Can't give any chances and they're still going on. Did
Speaker 1: you know that?
Speaker 2: I just didn't think that, you know what I heard?
Speaker 2: And I was like, because I like to watch stuff
Speaker 2: on my own time and get my own natural reaction. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so hopefully five hundred years later she got it right.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. It's unclear.
Speaker 1: So no, Okay, something happened to him?
Speaker 3: Should I tell her? I don't know. I don't want
Speaker 3: to ruin it for you.
Speaker 2: Tell me he died.
Speaker 3: I fel really bad. Yeah, we killed him? Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. Is that good or bad?
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's what we did. Yeah, man, we did.
Speaker 1: How nobody did I ruin it? Now?
Speaker 3: I feel.
Speaker 1: He died on the peloton. He had heard issues. It
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Wow, doesn't break your hearts? Yours is literally broken. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's so crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We did.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 3: It was a big thing.
Speaker 2: We had to keep it secret. Ut.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people I think are still mad at us.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well at least now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn yeah, she's yeah recipes.
Speaker 2: You're big.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel bad.
Speaker 3: Now because you're not going to get to watch it in.
Speaker 2: Order that show that man die. It was a lie.
Speaker 2: I would have listen.
Speaker 3: It's really good.
Speaker 2: Where does y'allkle Man on the movie or.
Speaker 3: On in the show? In the show and the movie,
Speaker 3: a lot happens.
Speaker 2: Trust. I saw, like I always see a lot of
Speaker 2: clips from the movie. Yeah, and he left her in
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and I beat him.
Speaker 2: You did it?
Speaker 3: Well, met him and I yelled at him.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the Barbie reenaction?
Speaker 2: That's what I saw. It's so ide. Okay, I have
Speaker 2: to go watch this, damn you do.
Speaker 3: You got to watch the movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, show, yes, yes, seeven I get mixed up.
Speaker 3: We killed him on the new show.
Speaker 2: Was this like episode one? That's how we kicked it off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's so great. That's so perfect. That's so perfect. That's
Speaker 2: how you do.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. It was scary.
Speaker 3: It was a little scary and hard, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: We had to keep a secret, and we had to
Speaker 1: film fake scenes and.
Speaker 2: Big come in, I mean to aid and come in.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to give it all. I don't
Speaker 3: want to get it.
Speaker 2: You're really making me have to watch the show.
Speaker 3: Now, that's my goal.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's my goal.
Speaker 1: Clips Okay, great, I want you to come back and
Speaker 1: discuss all the other parties. Okay, okay, wow yes, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah wow.
Speaker 3: It had to happen. Drama big time.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean when you.
Speaker 1: See it, it's some drama.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah wow, I mean am I okay, Well, it
Speaker 3: takes some time. You know. It's a shock. It's a shock.
Speaker 2: It's a shock.
Speaker 3: And she kind of blames me. Uh you'll see why.
Speaker 1: Well, because I made her go somewhere with me when
Speaker 1: the event happens, So she's with me.
Speaker 2: Carrie still toxic Cossie.
Speaker 1: Still sometimes sometimes sometimes you know he had a bad heart.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I take it really personal.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I do, and I take it real personal and I
Speaker 1: cry a lot, you know, which you know it is
Speaker 1: not a shock, right, But I try to be there
Speaker 1: for her even though she's mad at me.
Speaker 3: But it was hard.
Speaker 2: It was hard.
Speaker 1: But I do feel and I want to get your
Speaker 1: opinion on this when you watch more. I do feel
Speaker 1: that Carrie is a character if I'm trying to step
Speaker 1: back and be objective, has grown. I do feel, I do,
Speaker 1: I really.
Speaker 2: Do, because my girl was drama.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not saying that there's no drama, because obviously
Speaker 1: there's going to be some drama, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like Carrie will literally go say in New York on
Speaker 2: fire and then come back and type about it at
Speaker 2: the end of the day like half of it wasn't
Speaker 2: her fault. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that, and I now sometimes when I'm watching it,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, this is what Megan means.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll be watching at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: Ye at the end of the day, I.
Speaker 2: Thought, maybe yeh, I's wrong, and I have the problem.
Speaker 1: I know I know, yes, But you know the thing
Speaker 1: that I think is interesting too, Like in the beginning,
Speaker 1: our goal was never to have for perfect characters, is
Speaker 1: how would you want to watch that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like it, but like oh Carrie, but it can
Speaker 1: be frustrated, it can be frustrated. I mean I always
Speaker 1: had serious times where I was frustrated with Charlotte as well,
Speaker 1: like when she goes on her rants about getting married
Speaker 1: and the books she remember she gets this book out.
Speaker 2: I'm never frustrated with Charlotte because she never gives up
Speaker 2: on love like that is the that's really pretty to me, Like,
Speaker 2: no matter what you went through, no matter how many
Speaker 2: heartbreaks you go through, the fact that you still are
Speaker 2: giving love a shot. Because some people just be like,
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell with it, I'm going to
Speaker 2: go on like this crazy rampage and I'm gonna hurt
Speaker 2: people and it's gonna be a bad person there. Yes,
Speaker 2: Charlotte was never that. No matter how many a right,
Speaker 2: no matter how many things didn't go right, she was
Speaker 2: still like, no, I'm going to be married, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have a baby, no matter what. That's right, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be in love. That's right.
Speaker 1: She's very focused on you knows what she wants.
Speaker 2: It's true, it's.
Speaker 1: True, and it takes your while to get them, but
Speaker 1: then she does.
Speaker 2: But she does because she never gave up. She never
Speaker 2: gave up. It's true.
Speaker 1: And she does believe in love. When we sometimes you
Speaker 1: know people in the street or whatever because of the podcast,
Speaker 1: they'll say like, you know what, how do you find
Speaker 1: how do you define Charlotte? And I'm like, well, do
Speaker 1: you do you believe in love? That's question number one. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's very important.
Speaker 2: She keeps me optimistic.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.
Speaker 2: That's nice. No matter how bad many bad relationships I
Speaker 2: go through, I'm not going to give up on love.
Speaker 3: Yay. Megan, me neither.
Speaker 1: And it's not easy, man, it's not easy.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: So you were twenty nine when you watched it, and
Speaker 1: at first you didn't like Samantha, but then you kind
Speaker 1: of thought, maybe I am Samantha, and then you kind
Speaker 1: of have your mixed feelings about.
Speaker 3: Carry you love Charlotte.
Speaker 1: But obviously Charlotte would be your bestie because I'm emotional
Speaker 1: and all me I Charlotte and Marana not so much
Speaker 1: because she's negative, and did you ever change your opinion
Speaker 1: as time has gone by?
Speaker 3: You know, not that that's always.
Speaker 2: Felt the same way about Carrie, Samantha. I still love
Speaker 2: got It, Charlotte, I still love Miranda. I'm still scrashing
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, are.
Speaker 2: You so mean? What does Steve really ever do to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Besides try to love you and you just kept kicking him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel really bad.
Speaker 1: Now, when you're gonna watch what we've been doing, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have some strong feelings.
Speaker 2: Yes, is he on the show too? Uh? Huh?
Speaker 3: We love Steve.
Speaker 2: Y'all got Steve on the showy Okay, Yeah, I'm hooked.
Speaker 2: Right after this, I'm going to watch.
Speaker 1: Yay, but you go, you probably need to watch the movie, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, at least the first movie. The movie has
Speaker 1: very The first movie has very important relationship things that happened.
Speaker 1: The second movie we go to Abu Dhabi, though we
Speaker 1: actually filmed it in Morocco. It was kind of an
Speaker 1: odd road trip type movie in the desert. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been to these. We are out of
Speaker 1: the city big time, and then people were mad, like,
Speaker 1: why did you go out of.
Speaker 2: The city because I'm a human being.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and because we were doing the second movie and
Speaker 1: they told us we had to make it more worldly
Speaker 1: so that it would play in the different markets.
Speaker 3: You you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Everybody, the whole world lives in New York. That's true too.
Speaker 3: This is a good point. This is a good point.
Speaker 3: And we kind of lost that track for a second.
Speaker 1: But we're back. We're back now, and now we never
Speaker 1: leave New York. And just like that, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: we went to the wait, did we leave it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I don't even know. No, we did leave for a second.
Speaker 2: We went to in this season.
Speaker 1: Last season. Last season, Carry goes on a trip. Okay, briefly, briefly.
Speaker 3: Okay, just for fun.
Speaker 2: Let me just watch the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, baby, you gotta watch.
Speaker 2: I gotta keep up.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about other characters. So we know
Speaker 1: you love Steve. How did you feel about Trey.
Speaker 2: I don't feel anything about.
Speaker 1: Your Wow, nothing, I don't feel flat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1: You didn't feel like, oh, I want Charlotte to have
Speaker 1: this work out?
Speaker 3: You didn't care.
Speaker 2: What's my what's my ball?
Speaker 1: Hair?
Speaker 2: Guy? Harry? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You like Harry?
Speaker 2: I like Harry good.
Speaker 3: Harry is real, he's real.
Speaker 2: Trey, I don't really Yeah, nothing about Trey. I feel nothing.
Speaker 1: About Okay, those cheekbones didn't talk to you. No, got it,
Speaker 1: got it, got it. This is very interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 2: I feel nothing about you. Wow.
Speaker 1: Now for Samantha, did you want her to like when
Speaker 1: she gets together with Smith Jared the really handsome mind.
Speaker 2: I was very happy about that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was good, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: I thought he was great.
Speaker 2: I really liked when he cut his hair off too,
Speaker 2: Like I was crying. I got crying. I was like, woa, Samantha,
Speaker 2: you bet and I missed this up. I know it
Speaker 2: because he loves you. Yeah, as much as you love
Speaker 2: yourself to so, babe, this is your man. So I
Speaker 2: like that. I like that they were able to get together.
Speaker 2: I like that they kept them together. I can't really
Speaker 2: remember what happened at the end.
Speaker 3: It doesn't end.
Speaker 1: I think it goes to the movies. I think it
Speaker 1: goes to say, well, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying at the end of the season, I feel like
Speaker 2: they were still together, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, because she just shaved your hair,
Speaker 1: she has no hair win and the season No, okay, no,
Speaker 1: never okay, no, we would never know.
Speaker 3: We would never now, Okay no.
Speaker 2: I feel like she is and probably at that time too,
Speaker 2: like was saying things that women were scared to say,
Speaker 2: behaving the way women wish they could act in public.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: I feel like she is just like everybody's alter ego.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and people really embrace that and love her and
Speaker 1: feel empowered by.
Speaker 2: Her, like Samantha walked so a lot of us could run.
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's an incredible character and I did not
Speaker 1: really necessarily even realize gigs dent of that until rewatching.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she's very empowering, yeah, which is a beautiful thing,
Speaker 1: like the way.
Speaker 2: She owns her sexuality. And when I first, like I said,
Speaker 2: when I first watched it, I was like, why is
Speaker 2: why are they making it seem like her life revolves
Speaker 2: arou own sex?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And then as we keep going and we keep hearing
Speaker 2: her speak, she's so well spoken. Yep. I just like that.
Speaker 2: She's in charge. I'm very fashionable.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Do you get to keep the outfits?
Speaker 3: That is a present question.
Speaker 1: Yes, mostly mostly though what happened in the beginning, we
Speaker 1: had like no budget in the beginning, when I had started. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had ten thousand dollars for the entire first season
Speaker 1: for close. Yep. Just told me this the other day.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: I know they did a good job. But did you
Speaker 1: ever hear of a story century twenty one? It used
Speaker 1: to be in New York. It had like all the hot,
Speaker 1: high high high fashion things would end up there when
Speaker 1: no one else could sell.
Speaker 2: Them, And y'all's clothes ended up there.
Speaker 1: Yep, no, no, no, we would buy clothes there because
Speaker 1: we had no budget.
Speaker 2: Okay in the.
Speaker 3: Beginning, because no one knew what the show, what was
Speaker 3: the hair budget?
Speaker 1: We had really good hair people, yes.
Speaker 2: Because you'all hair was always especially Yes, you're actually like
Speaker 2: on a lot of my hair in move boards. Yes,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love like the sexy blowout like
Speaker 2: and you're still rocking it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is my own like not living up.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you, Oh my god. I'm very
Speaker 1: very wow wow, thank you so much. I mean your
Speaker 1: hair inspo. My daughter also really wanted me to tell
Speaker 1: you hi, and she loves you.
Speaker 2: She's thirteen.
Speaker 1: H Gemma, hey, Jemma, very excited. I shouldn't have said
Speaker 1: that in the middle.
Speaker 3: But who cares. We had we in the beginning.
Speaker 1: The thing that was interesting about the fashion was we
Speaker 1: had this woman, pat Field, who had a store downtown.
Speaker 1: It was very much like a downtown pit, super super
Speaker 1: almost like basement level downtown person into the art scene,
Speaker 1: into you know, all kinds of like cutting edge stuff,
Speaker 1: and had never done a TV show, So Sir Jessica
Speaker 1: had worked with her before and brought her in and
Speaker 1: she just didn't want to play by the rules, which
Speaker 1: was what we need and really did things differently. But
Speaker 1: it took a while for us to make our name
Speaker 1: in terms of what we were doing and what we
Speaker 1: were trying to do and get a lending situation going
Speaker 1: on with the designer.
Speaker 2: Was the show like controversial at first?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: People wrote all kind of crazy reviews when and they
Speaker 1: were like get this off TV. Yeah, they were like
Speaker 1: who are these women? Why are they talking like that?
Speaker 1: And one of them, maybe one of the like the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal or one of those ones, said, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to date any of these women except
Speaker 1: for Charlotte, exactly, Like that was our goal, that's goal exactly,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly it was.
Speaker 3: It was generally just.
Speaker 1: Like blah, but over time that changed. Yeah, So like
Speaker 1: when we started, we never we didn't. Sarah Joska didn't
Speaker 1: even think about success. She just told me this other day,
Speaker 1: which I think is so interesting. I thought that we
Speaker 1: could be like a kind of like a little cult show,
Speaker 1: you know, like a little following you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do have a following them, definitely, definitely, But we didn't
Speaker 1: have any idea what it would be, right, and we
Speaker 1: didn't have any idea that that we would be nominated
Speaker 1: for Emmys and win Emmys and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Like, we had no idea.
Speaker 1: Super shocked it was. It was cool that it shifted
Speaker 1: from being like this kind of weird what is it?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: You know, a late night porn show? Like people didn't
Speaker 3: know at the beginning.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that so many boobs were on there, Like,
Speaker 2: I know, right watching it back, I'm like, wow, this HBO.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 1: We didn't realize that much boob I know, I know,
Speaker 1: and saying all kind of crazy things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize how much y'all said the P word. Oh,
Speaker 2: I know, I can only say the P word when
Speaker 2: I'm rapping.
Speaker 3: I say, I think you also say.
Speaker 1: The word, but only when I'm reading really so not
Speaker 1: just conversational.
Speaker 2: No, it's hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But but when you're rapping, is it just like cucie
Speaker 1: that's adorable?
Speaker 3: Wait, what happens when you're rapping?
Speaker 1: Is it like like how I would.
Speaker 2: Be turned into a whole other person? Got it? Like
Speaker 2: I'm I'm so tough in the booth, it's crazy. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't say a pete word in real life.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 1: I think it's more interesting to have that kind of
Speaker 1: internal conflict going on.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a bad word.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: It's a great word.
Speaker 1: It's a powerful, strong word, the powerful word. Pat Field's
Speaker 1: favorite compliment to give I'm going to say it because
Speaker 1: we can bleep it out was t yes, yes.
Speaker 2: But see, like sometimes people I feel like the sea words.
Speaker 2: See saying the sea word as an insult. You can't
Speaker 2: say it. No, that's not but like like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: Cute, that is cute. That's very keen voice.
Speaker 1: She kind of talks like this, so she'd be like
Speaker 1: she you'd be like, okay, that's me I'm giving.
Speaker 3: I know. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's about whether you own it, Like
Speaker 1: if you own that.
Speaker 3: That's powerful, right, but.
Speaker 2: We took the word back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, do it? Are you a Charlotte. I'm a Charlotte, babe.
Speaker 2: This is Megan Stallion and I am a Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Wow. I did not.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, I'd like that mix.
Speaker 2: I'm a shamantha, A shamantha.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I did not think you were going to say that.
Speaker 2: Who has somebody said no, Yeah, they're lying, but I'm Shamantha.
Speaker 3: I'm both dig it, I dig it.
Speaker 2: Baby. My next thing that I'm going to manifest is
Speaker 2: walking in the scene on the show. Baby. We'd love
Speaker 2: to have you. Somebody call me, get me in there, Yes,
Speaker 2: so I can just beat the Shamantha that.
Speaker 3: You want to have you.
Speaker 1: I want to please be with us.
Speaker 2: You heard me. Yeah, I'm coming.
Speaker 3: We'll do it.
Speaker 2: Don't kill me on the peloton.
Speaker 3: We would never