1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? All right, you guys, Today we have 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: an incredible guest. She was the number one guest that 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to have when I started the podcast. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: She's a big, big. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Fan of Sex and the City and we're a big, big, big. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: Fan of hers. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: She's a rapper, a songwriter, an actress, a cultural icon, 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Grammy Award winning, multi platinum recording artist, and cultural powerhouse 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: in every way. 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: Meghan the Stallion, I'm like really gagging right now, like, oh. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: My God, I'm gagging that you're here. 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into some things. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: So Megan, let me tell you first that when I 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: was thinking about doing this podcast is the week that 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: we ran into you in New York at the Michael 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Corse event. Do you remember the Michael Cores events I. 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Do with Sir Jessica, And I was sitting at the 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: table like, wow, I'm really a New York babe exactly. 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: The girls, yes, with the dolls. 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: Here with us. 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: We had gotten up at four in the morning, we 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: had that big event, and we love Michael for a 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: long time, love Michael, love Michael so much. 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: And I had gone to the bathroom. 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: I had come back Sarah and I had I think 27 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: had a four am call at right. 28 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: I know. 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: It make us sack. 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, I know. 31 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: Right, So we were a little t job yeah that 32 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: job got job. 33 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: We were a little tired, but we want to of course, 34 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: it was a big thing for us to be there. 35 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: And Cynthia was sitting on my left and Michael, Michael 36 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: of course was sitting on my right. Went to the bathroom, 37 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: come back and I was like, who's this tall goddess 38 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: lady next to Michael. 39 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: Course, and it was Megan Stella. 40 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: And it was when they had come to me about 41 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: doing the podcast. And then right after that, like days later, 42 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: your fallon ran where you Literally. 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: I was like I just saw them, like, oh my god, 44 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: and to me. 45 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: So you have been my number one dream guest. 46 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Believe I'm like sitting here talking to you so casually, 47 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: like I feel like we should have been like outside 48 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: having coffee or. 49 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: Something that's true that would be fun, would be next 50 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: time we can walk and talk. 51 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: Yes, we can walk and talk. 52 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you're ready. I'm here, You're You're born ready 53 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: for you, honey. I love it. I love it. 54 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: This is a famous This is my skirt I wore 55 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: when I met Trey. This is the actual skirt when 56 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: I fell in the street. 57 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: Do you remember, Yeah, really gagging because like you look 58 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: exactly the same. Thank you so much, and you act 59 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: exactly I do. 60 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: Kind of. I don't tell anyone. 61 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: Secret people, it's a secret. It's a secret. Okay. 62 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: So when you went on follin the thing that I 63 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: love so much many things, obviously because you are number one, 64 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: so inspiring and amazing and fabulous and powerful and really 65 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: just the epitome in so many ways of what we 66 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: wanted to create when we started the show. That kind 67 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: of wasn't really out there, you know, especially in television. 68 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: So from that perspective, I love you anyway. And then 69 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: just to hear you with your incredibly well thought out, 70 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: well researched points on all of us. 71 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: I want to talk about it, listen. 72 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: I want to hear about it, okay, and I want 73 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: to hear if there are any updates. So let's just 74 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: rehash in case anyone missed that. Okay, So you just 75 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: discovered the show when. 76 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: Probably like well, I've always known what the show was, 77 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: but like as a child, like you watch it and 78 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: it's going over your head. You don't know what. I'm 79 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: a little thing. I don't know what y'all talking about. 80 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: But I rewatched it turning twenty nine and I'm looking 81 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: at the show and I'm like, wait a minute, nobody 82 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: told me six and the city was this damn good. 83 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: So I'm watching and I needed to rewatch it a 84 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: few times so I could really get into everybody. But 85 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: I feel like everybody already has their favorite characters, like 86 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: and I'm late to the party. So I'm like, Okay, 87 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: everybody's favorite character is Carrie. Okay, well, no, like, Charlotte 88 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: and Samantha are my favorite characters. Okay, I like and 89 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: no shade to carry. I definitely love Carrie. We love 90 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: you the but Carrie, she just makes bad decisions all 91 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: the time. 92 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you're saying. 93 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: When I'm rewatching it myself, I am kind of shocked. 94 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: Like you are literally running into the same wall thinking 95 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna turn into a ghost and walk through it. 96 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't understand. That's like, that's the definition of insanity. 97 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: That is a good point. 98 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: I loved how well dressed this insane person was, Like 99 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: that's so I give Carrie like my favorite character dressing wise, right, well, well, 100 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: yeah she was. She was very well dressed, a very 101 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: well dressed crazy person. 102 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: Sarah has incredible style. 103 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Carry does also, and it's eclectic and fun. 104 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: But like that part. At first, I thought I didn't 105 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: like Samantha right, Like, in the first couple of episodes, 106 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: I was like, why are they making it seem like 107 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: sex is her whole life? But as I kept watching, 108 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, baby, she in sex like 109 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: and she puts her foot down. I feel like that 110 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: to me. She owns her body, she knows what she wants. 111 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: She's very confident, unapologetic. 112 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: She's unapologeticing her and she wasn't letting these men stop 113 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: all stop, all over her. That's me. So I was 114 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: like him, am I Samantha? But then you was kind 115 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: of crazy too? 116 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: But I have my crazy element, but it was. 117 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: Like it was logical crazy. She's very emotional. Yes, that's me, 118 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: is it? That's me? I get emotional? Yeah, me too, 119 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: Like it's okay to be irrational sometimes that's true. So 120 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: I started doing therapy and my therapy. My therapy, my 121 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: therapist tells me you think a lot with your emotional 122 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: mind and not your logical mind. And I'm like, you 123 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: know what, hell yeah, but also you're a creative so 124 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: she she understands that part as well. But I feel 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: like that that was Charlotte, Like I feel like she 126 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: her emotional mind, which is why I'm relating so much. 127 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, y'all can't count her out. Like you 128 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: were super sexy too, Thank you so much, And I 129 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: feel like that, yeah, very sexy. Wow, he's always on point. 130 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. 131 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: I just love you. I don't believe we're just having 132 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 2: this conversation. 133 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: No, I know, and I mean I feel the same 134 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: about you. I feel I mean, I also did like 135 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: a like a crash course in all the Megan Castlian everything. Yes, 136 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: your documentary is incredible. There's so many like when you 137 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: are out there chanting to those like, I mean, how 138 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: many people are in your like it's unbelievable. 139 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: I don't even know the largest crowd I've ever performed to. 140 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 141 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: It's incredibly amazing. 142 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: And you're saying my body my choice, Oh yes, like 143 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: it was. I was like just so impressed with you 144 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: in so many ways. I mean, I'm so impressed with you, 145 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: just meeting you, you're so present. But anyway, it's so 146 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: amazing to feel the connectedness of the different women in 147 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: our in our in our lives, our cultural lives, but 148 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: also when you get to meet them and you just 149 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: feel like the energy of like empowerment and freedom and 150 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: support of each other is so important. And I think 151 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: that really is the crux of what we wanted to 152 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: do in the show. Certainly over time and it's what 153 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: we were able to do. But in the beginning you 154 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: can see that we're we're. 155 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Forming it, you know. 156 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: So when I don't watch exactly not quite, you know, 157 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: we're like, it's coming, it's coming together. 158 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: There was one character I left out that I really 159 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: really like Steve Steve. I know, it's like nobody is 160 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: talking about how Steve is like top three characters on 161 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm with You. 162 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with fantastic actor and so good. 163 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: You know. 164 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Part of my thing of having this is to get 165 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: to talk about the themes with people who like yourself, 166 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: who've just found the show relatively recently, right in our 167 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: very long history of doing the show, and because it's 168 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: on Netflix and all the youngsters are watching it, which 169 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: is so great for us, and we're just rising. 170 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: Imagine watching the show for the first time, like I 171 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: was glued to the TV. Love it, And sometimes I 172 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: still have to go back and rewatch it, like just 173 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: to make sure I'm walking the right course. 174 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: Love it. Love it. 175 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: Have you seen the movies yet? 176 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is what people keep telling me I 177 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: need to get into. I have not watched the movies yet. 178 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: I have not watched the movies. I'll be busy, but no, 179 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: I know. 180 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I know we need them to be download it on 181 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: your ipade, you watch it, Okay, great because and then 182 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: you can come back and talk to me about it, 183 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: like I. 184 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: Know, I know, okay, but it was great. 185 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: But when we ended the. 186 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 1: Series, we thought we were going to do a movie, 187 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: so we did stop on the street on our final 188 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: scene like it was the end of our lives. But 189 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: we also, in our hearts really believed we would get 190 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: to do a film. Now, it didn't take more years 191 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: than we thought. We thought we would be doing a film, like. 192 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: Within the year exactly, just left us hanging. 193 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Yeah, the ending was tricky. 194 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: Literally go watch the movie right now. But at the time, 195 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 196 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Well at the time it was it was hard to 197 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: end the show, but it's also just very hard to 198 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: make a show like ongoingly make a show instead of just. 199 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: Baby not attacking all in the streets while y'all were 200 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: feeling this. 201 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes we had a lot of security by that point. 202 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not attacking, but I mean, like we're crying, Okay, 203 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: people were crying. There's a lot of would have been 204 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: like walking on purpose. 205 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: We still when we're shooting in just like that, we 206 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: have like a couple hundred people and they're so great. 207 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: They're really quiet when we roll action. It's so adorable. Yeah, 208 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,359 Speaker 1: it could be like one hundred degrees. 209 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: Now they're just sweating. 210 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: That would be me. 211 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: It's so cute, ah, so sweet. I mean, it's really nice. 212 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: And sometimes we have when I look back at the show, 213 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: and this particular you're at the beginning of the second 214 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: season right now in the rewatch, not that we have 215 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: to rewatch, but. 216 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: There's real people. 217 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: There's shots where there those are real New Yorkers walking 218 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: down the street. 219 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: And they probably looked at that episode and was like, 220 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: that's oh ye what I did today. 221 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: Totally. They might not have even known because sometimes if. 222 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: We had a really good director he was just set 223 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: up like blocks away and you would be walking and 224 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: as an actor, you're just trying to tell like am 225 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: I in the spot I'm supposed to be and I 226 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: have no idea and just regular people are walking by because. 227 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: We wanted it to be real. 228 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: It's so crazy. 229 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't do it that way anymore, Carrie, let's 230 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: discuss carry out length, because when we were doing the 231 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: show in the right and for one thing, I just 232 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: want to say, we probably would not still have a 233 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: show if Carrie weren't kind of messed up. 234 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: Right now, she's carrying it. I'm talking just like personally 235 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: watching her if if say, if this was a real scenario, 236 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: I would not be her friend. But I like watching 237 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: the show though, because I love the drama. I love 238 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: the mess. I love that you keep making the same 239 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: mistake over and over because hopefully you're going to change 240 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: it for the better, but you don't. 241 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 3: But that's the show I mean kind of, I mean 242 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: she does. 243 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing I think about Carrie, and I mean, 244 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: it's hard to be objective, right because like to me, 245 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: because they know, Sir Jessica, they're bled together. I can't 246 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: separate really, right, So like when I'm looking back at 247 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: the first season, I am. 248 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 3: Thinking like, what is she doing? What is she doing? 249 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I never thought that at the time, because I would 250 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: just read the script and think of its great, and 251 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: Charlotte was PROFI it's great, right, right, right? 252 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: But I mean I. 253 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: Didn't look at it like objectively, do I agree with this? 254 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Do I not agree with this? I didn't think any 255 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: of those things. I'm just so excited, you know what 256 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was like, I love this. I just wanted, 257 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to try to make turloa as 258 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: good as that you make you thank you so. And 259 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Charlotte is pro big, right, so I was pro big. 260 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm not pro big, I know. Like, and you would 261 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: think that a group of friends would be like, friend, no, stop, 262 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: you're literally trying to change something that you can't make 263 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: this guy not be blue. Okay, the s guy's always 264 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: going to be blue. He's always going to be just like. 265 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: That, right, So that's what you say to your friend, Yes, 266 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: stop hurting yourself. Like And when I had Sir Jessica 267 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: on the podcast, I tried to talk to her about this, 268 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, and basically what she said she explained him 269 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: and then I was like, okay, so you now explained him, 270 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: But let's talk about you and why you think because 271 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't her, it's Carrie, obviously, But why was Carrie 272 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: so hooked? 273 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: You know? 274 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: Why did Carrie put up with so much? 275 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't like what Carrie is doing from a 276 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: personal experience, like I could see myself and her a 277 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: little bit, like dealing with a very toxic man like 278 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: and you've done it before, and you can see some 279 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: making a mistake. You see her hurting herself, and I'm like, 280 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: stop doing that. 281 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that way when I look back now too. 282 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: Yes, you don't have to do this. You know, this 283 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: is a choice. This pain is a choice. And she 284 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: just had a lot of self inflicted emotional distress. And 285 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: none of her homegirls besides Miranda, she was never That's 286 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: the one thing that I was down with her because 287 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: she was not my favorite either. 288 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I heard you say that you 289 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: always complain it. 290 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: She is really nice in real life. 291 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: So I was thinking we were talking about Big, which 292 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: obviously we could talk a lot about, but then I 293 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: was also curious about Aiden. 294 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: Clearly Aiden was the correct choice, but women we like 295 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: the bad boy like we like, I feel like we 296 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: like to torture ourselves a little bit. Like if he's 297 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: fine and he's sexy and he's kind of not giving 298 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: me exactly what I want, like he's still let me know, 299 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Like that's where I'm gonna go, Chase, Is that crazy? 300 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: But the person who literally gives you princess treatment and 301 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: barely let your feet touch the ground and it's just 302 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: so super sweet, it's kind of like you're so nice, Oh, 303 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: thank you cute, But like, clearly Aiden was the person 304 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: that she should have been with got it and he 305 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: gave you multiple chances, and you still. 306 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: Can't give any chances and they're still going on. Did 307 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: you know that? 308 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: I just didn't think that, you know what I heard? 309 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, because I like to watch stuff 310 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: on my own time and get my own natural reaction. Yeah, 311 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: so hopefully five hundred years later she got it right. 312 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. It's unclear. 313 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: So no, Okay, something happened to him? 314 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: Should I tell her? I don't know. I don't want 315 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 3: to ruin it for you. 316 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: Tell me he died. 317 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: I fel really bad. Yeah, we killed him? Sorry, Yeah, 318 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. Is that good or bad? 319 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. That's what we did. Yeah, man, we did. 320 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: How nobody did I ruin it? Now? 321 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: I feel. 322 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: He died on the peloton. He had heard issues. It 323 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense, doesn't it. 324 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Wow, doesn't break your hearts? Yours is literally broken. Yeah, 325 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: that's so crazy. 326 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We did. 327 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: We did. 328 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: It was a big thing. 329 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: We had to keep it secret. Ut. 330 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, people I think are still mad at us. 331 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well at least now. 332 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, damn yeah, she's yeah recipes. 333 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: You're big. 334 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: It's true. 335 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: It's true. 336 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: I kind of feel bad. 337 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: Now because you're not going to get to watch it in. 338 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: Order that show that man die. It was a lie. 339 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: I would have listen. 340 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: It's really good. 341 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: Where does y'allkle Man on the movie or. 342 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: On in the show? In the show and the movie, 343 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: a lot happens. 344 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: Trust. I saw, like I always see a lot of 345 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: clips from the movie. Yeah, and he left her in 346 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: the street. 347 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and I beat him. 348 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: You did it? 349 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: Well, met him and I yelled at him. 350 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: Yes. 351 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: Have you seen the Barbie reenaction? 352 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: That's what I saw. It's so ide. Okay, I have 353 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: to go watch this, damn you do. 354 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: You got to watch the movie. 355 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: Okay, show, yes, yes, seeven I get mixed up. 356 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: We killed him on the new show. 357 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: Was this like episode one? That's how we kicked it off. Yeah, 358 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: that's so great. That's so perfect. That's so perfect. That's 359 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: how you do. 360 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. It was scary. 361 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: It was a little scary and hard, you know what 362 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean. 363 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: We had to keep a secret, and we had to 364 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: film fake scenes and. 365 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: Big come in, I mean to aid and come in. 366 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to give it all. I don't 367 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: want to get it. 368 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: You're really making me have to watch the show. 369 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: Now, that's my goal. 370 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that's my goal. 371 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Clips Okay, great, I want you to come back and 372 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: discuss all the other parties. Okay, okay, wow yes, yeah 373 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: yeah yeah wow. 374 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: It had to happen. Drama big time. 375 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 376 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: I mean when you. 377 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: See it, it's some drama. 378 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah wow, I mean am I okay, Well, it 379 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: takes some time. You know. It's a shock. It's a shock. 380 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: It's a shock. 381 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: And she kind of blames me. Uh you'll see why. 382 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Well, because I made her go somewhere with me when 383 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: the event happens, So she's with me. 384 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: Carrie still toxic Cossie. 385 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: Still sometimes sometimes sometimes you know he had a bad heart. 386 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I take it really personal. 387 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: I do. 388 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: I do, and I take it real personal and I 389 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: cry a lot, you know, which you know it is 390 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: not a shock, right, But I try to be there 391 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: for her even though she's mad at me. 392 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: But it was hard. 393 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: It was hard. 394 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: But I do feel and I want to get your 395 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: opinion on this when you watch more. I do feel 396 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: that Carrie is a character if I'm trying to step 397 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: back and be objective, has grown. I do feel, I do, 398 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: I really. 399 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: Do, because my girl was drama. 400 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not saying that there's no drama, because obviously 401 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: there's going to be some drama, you know what I'm saying. 402 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: Like Carrie will literally go say in New York on 403 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: fire and then come back and type about it at 404 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: the end of the day like half of it wasn't 405 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: her fault. I love that. 406 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: I love that, and I now sometimes when I'm watching it, 407 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I'll be like, this is what Megan means. 408 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I'll be watching at the end of the day. 409 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: Ye at the end of the day, I. 410 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: Thought, maybe yeh, I's wrong, and I have the problem. 411 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: I know I know, yes, But you know the thing 412 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: that I think is interesting too, Like in the beginning, 413 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: our goal was never to have for perfect characters, is 414 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: how would you want to watch that? 415 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: Right? 416 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. 417 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: I like it, but like oh Carrie, but it can 418 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: be frustrated, it can be frustrated. I mean I always 419 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: had serious times where I was frustrated with Charlotte as well, 420 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: like when she goes on her rants about getting married 421 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: and the books she remember she gets this book out. 422 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm never frustrated with Charlotte because she never gives up 423 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: on love like that is the that's really pretty to me, Like, 424 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: no matter what you went through, no matter how many 425 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: heartbreaks you go through, the fact that you still are 426 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: giving love a shot. Because some people just be like, 427 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: you know, what the hell with it, I'm going to 428 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 2: go on like this crazy rampage and I'm gonna hurt 429 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: people and it's gonna be a bad person there. Yes, 430 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: Charlotte was never that. No matter how many a right, 431 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: no matter how many things didn't go right, she was 432 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: still like, no, I'm going to be married, I'm gonna 433 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: have a baby, no matter what. That's right, I'm gonna 434 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: be in love. That's right. 435 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: She's very focused on you knows what she wants. 436 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: It's true, it's. 437 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: True, and it takes your while to get them, but 438 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: then she does. 439 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: But she does because she never gave up. She never 440 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: gave up. It's true. 441 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: And she does believe in love. When we sometimes you 442 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: know people in the street or whatever because of the podcast, 443 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: they'll say like, you know what, how do you find 444 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: how do you define Charlotte? And I'm like, well, do 445 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: you do you believe in love? That's question number one. Yes, 446 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: it's very important. 447 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: She keeps me optimistic. 448 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. 449 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: That's nice. No matter how bad many bad relationships I 450 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: go through, I'm not going to give up on love. 451 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: Yay. Megan, me neither. 452 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: And it's not easy, man, it's not easy. 453 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 3: But let me ask you this. 454 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: So you were twenty nine when you watched it, and 455 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: at first you didn't like Samantha, but then you kind 456 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: of thought, maybe I am Samantha, and then you kind 457 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: of have your mixed feelings about. 458 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: Carry you love Charlotte. 459 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: But obviously Charlotte would be your bestie because I'm emotional 460 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: and all me I Charlotte and Marana not so much 461 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: because she's negative, and did you ever change your opinion 462 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: as time has gone by? 463 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 3: You know, not that that's always. 464 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: Felt the same way about Carrie, Samantha. I still love 465 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: got It, Charlotte, I still love Miranda. I'm still scrashing 466 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: my head. 467 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, are. 468 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: You so mean? What does Steve really ever do to you? 469 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 470 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: Besides try to love you and you just kept kicking him. 471 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel really bad. 472 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Now, when you're gonna watch what we've been doing, you're 473 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: gonna have some strong feelings. 474 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: Yes, is he on the show too? Uh? Huh? 475 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: We love Steve. 476 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: Y'all got Steve on the showy Okay, Yeah, I'm hooked. 477 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: Right after this, I'm going to watch. 478 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: Yay, but you go, you probably need to watch the movie, Okay, 479 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, at least the first movie. The movie has 480 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: very The first movie has very important relationship things that happened. 481 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: The second movie we go to Abu Dhabi, though we 482 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: actually filmed it in Morocco. It was kind of an 483 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: odd road trip type movie in the desert. It's very interesting. 484 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been to these. We are out of 485 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the city big time, and then people were mad, like, 486 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: why did you go out of. 487 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: The city because I'm a human being. 488 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: Exactly, and because we were doing the second movie and 489 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: they told us we had to make it more worldly 490 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: so that it would play in the different markets. 491 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: You you know what I'm saying. 492 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Everybody, the whole world lives in New York. That's true too. 493 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: This is a good point. This is a good point. 494 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: And we kind of lost that track for a second. 495 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: But we're back. We're back now, and now we never 496 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: leave New York. And just like that, I mean maybe 497 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: we went to the wait, did we leave it? 498 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: No? 499 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't even know. No, we did leave for a second. 500 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: We went to in this season. 501 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Last season. Last season, Carry goes on a trip. Okay, briefly, briefly. 502 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: Okay, just for fun. 503 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: Let me just watch the show. 504 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, baby, you gotta watch. 505 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: I gotta keep up. 506 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Let me ask you about other characters. So we know 507 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: you love Steve. How did you feel about Trey. 508 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't feel anything about. 509 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: Your Wow, nothing, I don't feel flat. 510 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so. 511 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: You didn't feel like, oh, I want Charlotte to have 512 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: this work out? 513 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: You didn't care. 514 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: What's my what's my ball? 515 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: Hair? 516 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: Guy? Harry? Yeah? 517 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: You like Harry? 518 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: I like Harry good. 519 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: Harry is real, he's real. 520 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: Trey, I don't really Yeah, nothing about Trey. I feel nothing. 521 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: About Okay, those cheekbones didn't talk to you. No, got it, 522 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: got it, got it. This is very interesting, very interesting. 523 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: I feel nothing about you. Wow. 524 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Now for Samantha, did you want her to like when 525 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: she gets together with Smith Jared the really handsome mind. 526 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: I was very happy about that, right, Yeah. 527 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: It was good, wasn't it. 528 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: I thought he was great. 529 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 2: I really liked when he cut his hair off too, 530 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: Like I was crying. I got crying. I was like, woa, Samantha, 531 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: you bet and I missed this up. I know it 532 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: because he loves you. Yeah, as much as you love 533 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: yourself to so, babe, this is your man. So I 534 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: like that. I like that they were able to get together. 535 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: I like that they kept them together. I can't really 536 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: remember what happened at the end. 537 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 3: It doesn't end. 538 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: I think it goes to the movies. I think it 539 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: goes to say, well, no, no, I'm. 540 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: Saying at the end of the season, I feel like 541 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: they were still together, right. 542 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, because she just shaved your hair, 543 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: she has no hair win and the season No, okay, no, 544 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: never okay, no, we would never know. 545 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: We would never now, Okay no. 546 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: I feel like she is and probably at that time too, 547 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: like was saying things that women were scared to say, 548 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: behaving the way women wish they could act in public. 549 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: Correct. 550 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: I feel like she is just like everybody's alter ego. 551 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and people really embrace that and love her and 552 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: feel empowered by. 553 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: Her, like Samantha walked so a lot of us could run. 554 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: I love that. I love that. 555 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, she's an incredible character and I did not 556 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: really necessarily even realize gigs dent of that until rewatching. 557 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 558 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: And she's very empowering, yeah, which is a beautiful thing, 559 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: like the way. 560 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: She owns her sexuality. And when I first, like I said, 561 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: when I first watched it, I was like, why is 562 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 2: why are they making it seem like her life revolves 563 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: arou own sex? 564 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 3: Right? 565 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: And then as we keep going and we keep hearing 566 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: her speak, she's so well spoken. Yep. I just like that. 567 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: She's in charge. I'm very fashionable. 568 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 569 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: Do you get to keep the outfits? 570 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: That is a present question. 571 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Yes, mostly mostly though what happened in the beginning, we 572 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: had like no budget in the beginning, when I had started. Yeah, 573 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: we had ten thousand dollars for the entire first season 574 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: for close. Yep. Just told me this the other day. 575 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: It was great. 576 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: I know they did a good job. But did you 577 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: ever hear of a story century twenty one? It used 578 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: to be in New York. It had like all the hot, 579 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: high high high fashion things would end up there when 580 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: no one else could sell. 581 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: Them, And y'all's clothes ended up there. 582 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: Yep, no, no, no, we would buy clothes there because 583 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: we had no budget. 584 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: Okay in the. 585 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: Beginning, because no one knew what the show, what was 586 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: the hair budget? 587 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: We had really good hair people, yes. 588 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: Because you'all hair was always especially Yes, you're actually like 589 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: on a lot of my hair in move boards. Yes, 590 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love like the sexy blowout like 591 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: and you're still rocking it. 592 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is my own like not living up. 593 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you, Oh my god. I'm very 594 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: very wow wow, thank you so much. I mean your 595 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: hair inspo. My daughter also really wanted me to tell 596 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: you hi, and she loves you. 597 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: She's thirteen. 598 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: H Gemma, hey, Jemma, very excited. I shouldn't have said 599 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: that in the middle. 600 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: But who cares. We had we in the beginning. 601 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: The thing that was interesting about the fashion was we 602 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: had this woman, pat Field, who had a store downtown. 603 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: It was very much like a downtown pit, super super 604 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: almost like basement level downtown person into the art scene, 605 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: into you know, all kinds of like cutting edge stuff, 606 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: and had never done a TV show, So Sir Jessica 607 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: had worked with her before and brought her in and 608 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: she just didn't want to play by the rules, which 609 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: was what we need and really did things differently. But 610 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: it took a while for us to make our name 611 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: in terms of what we were doing and what we 612 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: were trying to do and get a lending situation going 613 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: on with the designer. 614 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: Was the show like controversial at first? 615 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 616 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 617 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: People wrote all kind of crazy reviews when and they 618 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: were like get this off TV. Yeah, they were like 619 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: who are these women? Why are they talking like that? 620 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: And one of them, maybe one of the like the 621 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal or one of those ones, said, you know, 622 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to date any of these women except 623 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: for Charlotte, exactly, Like that was our goal, that's goal exactly, 624 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: exactly exactly it was. 625 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 3: It was generally just. 626 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: Like blah, but over time that changed. Yeah, So like 627 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: when we started, we never we didn't. Sarah Joska didn't 628 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: even think about success. She just told me this other day, 629 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: which I think is so interesting. I thought that we 630 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: could be like a kind of like a little cult show, 631 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: you know, like a little following you know. Yeah, I 632 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: do have a following them, definitely, definitely, But we didn't 633 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: have any idea what it would be, right, and we 634 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: didn't have any idea that that we would be nominated 635 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: for Emmys and win Emmys and all that stuff. 636 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: Like, we had no idea. 637 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Super shocked it was. It was cool that it shifted 638 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: from being like this kind of weird what is it? 639 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: Is it? 640 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: You know, a late night porn show? Like people didn't 641 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: know at the beginning. 642 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that so many boobs were on there, Like, 643 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: I know, right watching it back, I'm like, wow, this HBO. 644 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. 645 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: We didn't realize that much boob I know, I know, 646 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: and saying all kind of crazy things. 647 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize how much y'all said the P word. Oh, 648 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: I know, I can only say the P word when 649 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm rapping. 650 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: I say, I think you also say. 651 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: The word, but only when I'm reading really so not 652 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: just conversational. 653 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: No, it's hard. 654 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 655 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: But but when you're rapping, is it just like cucie 656 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: that's adorable? 657 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: Wait, what happens when you're rapping? 658 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: Is it like like how I would. 659 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: Be turned into a whole other person? Got it? Like 660 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm so tough in the booth, it's crazy. Wow. Yeah, 661 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: but I don't say a pete word in real life. 662 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: That's okay. 663 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: I think it's more interesting to have that kind of 664 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: internal conflict going on. 665 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a bad word. 666 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: I do. 667 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: It's a great word. 668 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: It's a powerful, strong word, the powerful word. Pat Field's 669 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: favorite compliment to give I'm going to say it because 670 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: we can bleep it out was t yes, yes. 671 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: But see, like sometimes people I feel like the sea words. 672 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: See saying the sea word as an insult. You can't 673 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: say it. No, that's not but like like, yeah, that's. 674 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: Cute, that is cute. That's very keen voice. 675 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: She kind of talks like this, so she'd be like 676 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: she you'd be like, okay, that's me I'm giving. 677 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: I know. I love it. 678 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: I love it. 679 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean again, it's about whether you own it, Like 680 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: if you own that. 681 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: That's powerful, right, but. 682 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: We took the word back. 683 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. 684 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: Okay, do it? Are you a Charlotte. I'm a Charlotte, babe. 685 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 2: This is Megan Stallion and I am a Charlotte. 686 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: Wow. I did not. 687 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: Okay, great, I'd like that mix. 688 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm a shamantha, A shamantha. 689 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: I love that. 690 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: I love that. 691 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: I did not think you were going to say that. 692 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: Who has somebody said no, Yeah, they're lying, but I'm Shamantha. 693 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm both dig it, I dig it. 694 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 2: Baby. My next thing that I'm going to manifest is 695 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: walking in the scene on the show. Baby. We'd love 696 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: to have you. Somebody call me, get me in there, Yes, 697 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: so I can just beat the Shamantha that. 698 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: You want to have you. 699 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: I want to please be with us. 700 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: You heard me. Yeah, I'm coming. 701 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: We'll do it. 702 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: Don't kill me on the peloton. 703 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: We would never