1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, ready or not, twenty twenty four is here 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: and we here at breaking points, are already thinking of 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: ways we can up our game for this critical election. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: the studio ad staff, give you, guys, the best independent coverage. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 3: That is possible. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 2: If you like what we're all about, it just means 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: the absolute world to have your support. 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: But enough with that, let's get to the show. 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So a lot going on, a lot that's very disturbing. 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: We're going to get to that with regard to the 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: latest Israeli strike on Gaza, but wanted to start with this. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: You can put this up on the screen. 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Latest numbers are that sixty seven people were wounded. These 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: were all soldiers wounded Sunday after a drone struck an 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: IDF base in Israel. This was a Heswula drone strike. 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: You also had a number of people four who I 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: believe were killed. So you've had a significant number of 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: casualties here. And part of what is so significant here 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: is that this drone was able to get through their 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, extensive anti anti missile defense systems, so iron 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: Dome failed and they're looking into why that happened and 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: how this was able to get through. Apparently there was 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: another drone that attempted to get through as well. They 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: were able to intercept that one, but this one was successful. 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: The army, they say, is investigating why no sirns are 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: sound and why interception attempts failed as well as the 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: drone's route. In addition, earlier in that same day, twenty 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: eight IDF soldiers were wounded by anti tank fire in 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: two separate incidents in Lebanon. We can put up on 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the screen this image of the cross border attacks because 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I just don't want people to get a false impression here. 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: So obviously Heswela has been firing back, but it's still 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: a very one sided conflict. Overall, it's very, you know, 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: very unbalanced towards the Israeli side. You have twelve thousand 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: roughly combined cross border attacks. Eight hundred and ninety one 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: of those were Israeli attacks on Lebanin. You've had two 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty three which were HESBLA and others 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: attacks on Israel. Total combined desks one thousand, five hundred 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: and sixty two of those, almost all of them were 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Lebanese people one thy five hundred and twenty nine, just 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: thirty three Israelis killed in these cross order attacks. Nevertheless, 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: are obviously incredibly significant in terms of Israeli's sense of security. 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: They've been sold by their leadership class that the way 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: for them to be safe and to be able to 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: return to northern Israel towns that have been evacuated since 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: October seventh is through war, is through bullets and guns 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: and missiles and drones and bombs. 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: And they also, you know, I. 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: Think really thought they degraded Hesbla to the point that 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: the it was probably just going to kind of fall apart. 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: Sata assassinated in Esralla, you had that massage, massive pager 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: and walkie talkie attack, and Hezbela showing here that they 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: still have a lot of fighting power and still have 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: an ability to strike within Israel. 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: Important though, I really want. 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: To emphasize the fact that you know, Hesbla here striking 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: a legitimate military target. And I think a lot of 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: people should ponder the fact that the military that we're backing, 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: which we're about to count to talk about in a minute, 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: the IDF, the one that worshipping the bombs for just 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: attacked a hospital with a tense city of refugees filled 63 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: with patients, you know, and children and women, and the 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: ones that we call terrorists are attacking legitimate military targets 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: and going after soldiers. 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: Well, what I think it highlights is more the lack 67 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: of security and the ability for them to actually penetrate 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: IDF defenses. And it just is the same thing where look, yes, 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: you can wipe out Inncerala and all that, but everything 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: kept saying here Hasbola is a much more capable force. Also, 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: I want everybody to understand how much that this is 72 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: the preview of what warfare looks like in the twenty 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: first century. This drone hitting a cafeteria, This is been 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: going on in Ukraine now for three straight years, and 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: that's exactly how they've been able to kill a ton 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: of Ukrainians, to kill over a ton of Russians. There 77 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: are so many horrible drone videos out there of them 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: just following people. So the point is that this type 79 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: of warfare is exactly the way that they're trying to 80 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: get around traditional weapon systems, rockets, missiles and all that 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: penetrate it very very small and still be able to 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: really you know, cause significant amounts of damage. This is 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: one of a very deadly incident inside of Israel for 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: the IDEF. 85 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: Another one is. 86 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: Let's underscore the US commitment to this. Not nearly enough 87 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: people are understanding the gravity of what has now been 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: announced by the Biden administration. Let's put this up there 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: on the screen. US is going to deploy one hundred 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: troops to operate an advanced anti missile system in Israel 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: amidst high tensions. What we are talking about is the 92 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: THAD missile defense system, the Terminal high Altitude Area Defense. 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: I was actually pretty familiar with that. I covered a 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: lot of it with respect to South Korea. It is 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: one of our most advanced missile anti missile defense technologies, 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: and it is one of those that is you can 97 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: see it actually in front of you on the mobile 98 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: trucks and makes it very easy to deploy and all 99 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: of that. But the point is is that if you 100 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: think about this system and why it's so important, is 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: it is physically incapable to run it without American soldiers 102 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: on the ground. It's one of the reasons why the 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Ukrainians have been begging America for a bad system for 104 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: the begin basically since the beginning of the war, and 105 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: we're like, no, we're not going to do it because 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: we'd have to put our own guys on the ground. 107 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: But now think about this, Not only would we have 108 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: our guys operating an anti missile defense system, but what 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: do you think the number one target of a drone 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: or any of these other places is going to be? 111 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: Is that? 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: And so that means we're putting our people in an 113 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: extremely high risk situation, and nobody in the US political 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: establishment is saying a damn word about it. Joe Biden 115 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: promised there will be no troops that boots on the ground, 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: you know, for the defense of Israel. Well, already that 117 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: was a lie with the whole Gaza peer situation. It 118 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: was a lie previously whenever three of our guys were 119 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: killed in that Jordanian Syria insane raid, which are in 120 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: the drone attack, which still nobody's ever answered any questions about. 121 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: But this is the most direct intervention by the United States. 122 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: It also just increases It also shows you, you know, 123 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: the Israelis brag about Arrow three and Arrow two and 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: all of that, but when it comes down to it, 125 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: and there's some worries with Iran, what are they doing 126 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, we need fat What does that 127 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: tell you? It shows you that their missile defense technology, 128 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: which we pay for and build, is still not all 129 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: that operable and they need some of the highest level 130 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: of US defense to keep them where they're at. But worse, 131 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: I think is that it gives them the ability they 132 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: can do whatever they want. Now you know, you can 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: go and hit a nuclear site if you want to. 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: Now you've got big Daddy America and one hundred US 135 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: soldiers who are defending you. And this is basically an 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 2: insurance policy for the coming massive strike on Iran. 137 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: That's right, that will happen. 138 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm scared, because there are now our 139 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: people are the ones who are in danger. 140 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: That's exactly right, And you're so right to point out 141 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: to that. 142 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Listen, our boots are already on the ground because we 143 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: have forty thousand people in the region and it's a 144 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: regional war. And if you think it's not, just look 145 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: at all of the countries that are being bombed right now. 146 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: Like you're deluding yourself if you don't think that those 147 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: soldiers are already at risk. But with regard to this 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: move specifically, you know, we're getting these reports that Biden 149 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: talked to Bob and he doesn't want them to strike 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 1: Iranian oil infrastructure, that he doesn't want him to strike 151 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Iranian nuclear sites. But then you're giving him all the 152 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: protection in the world so that he can operate with 153 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: impunity and not bear any of the cost. So again, 154 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: obviously Bbe is going to do exactly what he wants 155 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: because you are not using any leverage. In fact, you're 156 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: doing the opposite of that. You are enabling this behavior 157 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: because they will not bear any of the cost. Instead, 158 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: we're putting our soldiers' lives at risk and putting this, 159 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, expensive system into the region. It's just from 160 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: a policy perspective, it's utterly, utterly insane. But you know, 161 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: that's that's where we are. And the total lack of 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: any discussion, debate, controversy around this is astonishing, you know, 163 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: it's utterly astonishing what we stand on the precipice of 164 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: and how little care concerned discussion debate there is in 165 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: the United States Congress or certainly on the cable news airwaves. 166 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: You At the same time, we wanted to make sure 167 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: and bring you this the Israelis struck un peacekeepers, These 168 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Irish peacekeepers who you know this, This UN peacekeeping force 169 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: has been in southern Lebanon for quite a long time, 170 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: and the Israelis told them, you need to leave, and 171 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: they said, no, we're going to hold our posts like 172 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: we have an important mission. You don't get to tell 173 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: us when we're going to leave, so we're going to stay. 174 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: So Benjamin attiaw you can put this up on the screen. 175 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: It was in Hebrew, so I'll just read some of 176 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: the translation here. He demanded that these forces be evacuated 177 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: from removed from South Lebanon immediately. He says that they're 178 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: going to be used as human shields by Hesbola. He says, specifically, 179 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: I appeal to the UN Secretary General. Your refusal to 180 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: evacuate UNIFIL soldiers has turned them into hostages of Hesbola. 181 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: So we all know when the Israelis break out that 182 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: human shield language, that means you're a target. That means 183 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: we are not going to care whether you live or die. 184 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: In fact, if anything, we're happy for you to die. 185 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: It wasn't long before we got this I troops quote 186 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: accounted for after reported Lebanon strike, UN sources told Reuters 187 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: that Israeli troops open fire at three positions held by 188 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon on Thursday. You know this 189 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: is this United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon has been 190 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: there since nineteen seventy eight. It's meant to monitor hostilities, 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: helps to ensure humanitarian access to civilians. 192 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: And they put on a. 193 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: Long thread on Twitter on Thursday mornings saying that two 194 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: peacekeepers were injured after an idea of tank fired its 195 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: weapon towards an observation and tower at their headquarters, directly 196 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: hitting it and causing them to fall. It said their 197 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: injuries are not serious, but they do remain in the hospital. 198 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: They also fired IDF soldiers on a UN position in 199 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: another town, hitting the entrance to the bunker where peacekeepers 200 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: were sheltering and damaging vehicles in a communication system. An 201 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: IDF drone was observed flying inside the UN position up 202 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: to the bunker, and in addition, peacekeepers at that position 203 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: reported the firing of several rounds which emitted smoke. Despite 204 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: putting on protective mass, fifteen of those peacekeepers suffered effects 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: including skin irritation and gas intestinal reactions after the smoke 206 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: entered the camp. The peacekeepers are receiving treatment, so IDF 207 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: is firing on and gassing apparently un peacekeepers now, and 208 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: the silence from the United States of America and the 209 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: rest of the supposedly committed to human rights West is 210 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: absolutely deafening. 211 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous, isn't it. 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: And it's also just funny because if you think about 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: the way that we would respond, let's say, if this 214 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: was a country called Russia, well then things fall apart, now, 215 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: don't they. 216 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: Can you imagine? 217 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: Of course I can. I already know because we are. 218 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: We've seen it. 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: You know, look at all these look at the number 220 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: of times but way Biden and all of them talk about, oh, 221 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: the United Nations is spoken out against the Ukraine invasion. 222 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: And all that. 223 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: So if you're Russia, also, what's the lesson from this? 224 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, we can just do whatever we want. 225 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: They're like, they don't mean anything. If you're China, if 226 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: you're any of these people, you're like, look at these 227 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: is this people are a joke. They're like, all these 228 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: international institutions mean nothing. I mean, the entire basis of 229 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: their theory of the international rules based order and all 230 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: of that is being undermined here. Also, again I just 231 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: can't get away from the cost. You know, that costs 232 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: a billion dollars plus we have one hundred dollars one 233 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: hundred people who are put in harm's way. The general 234 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: back in the Napkin math is it takes one million 235 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: dollars per year per soldier to keep them deployed abroad. 236 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: So that's one hundred mil. And then you to add 237 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: in another bill. 238 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: They're like, okay, you know, one point one billion here 239 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: just to make sure that they can do whatever they 240 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: want to. Iran not to mention the billion dollars we 241 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: just fired off, and more like what is who's why 242 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: should we pay this bill? Why is this worth it? 243 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: For what possible reason? And then the damage to the 244 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: overall US image is just ridiculous now at this point. 245 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean it's what can you even say at 246 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: this point, Like there's things that we're about to talk 247 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: about this, Things that would have been a controversy a 248 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: year ago now just happened and no one even noticed this. 249 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, remember there was a whole propaganda campaign around 250 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: justifying the invasion of one hospital. Now hospitals just get bombed, 251 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: schools just get bombed. Refugee shelters just get bombed un peacekeepers. Okay, 252 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: and now we're in, you know, bombing the hell on 253 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: a bay route and you know, dropping eighty six two 254 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: thousand pounds bunker buster bombs to get one dude, slaughtering 255 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: civilians who are not Hamas, have nothing to do with Hamas, et. 256 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: Cetera, et cetera. And it's just like a shoulder shrug. 257 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. 258 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so incredibly, so incredibly dark. And 259 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: it is also totally clear that the most nihilistic, most 260 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: cynical analysis of Israeli plans for genocide, ethnic cleansing, regional 261 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: war with Iran dragging us into it, the most cynical 262 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: analysis that occurred on you know, October eighth, turned out 263 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent correct, if not sort of 264 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: understating where we'd ultimately had. I've previewed this absolute trigger 265 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: warning for the images I'm about to show you, But 266 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: there is a horrific IDF strike on a hospital in 267 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: the Gaza Strip. Because while this is all going on 268 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: with HASWLA, they continue to completely annihilate the Gaza Strip 269 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: and you know, extreminate so many people there. We have 270 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: no idea what the death toll is at this point. 271 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: And in the course of attacking this hospital, they lit 272 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: on fire a tent camp filled with refugees, including many 273 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: you know, innocent men, women and children and patients who 274 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: were hooked up to ivs, many of whom had just 275 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: fled and were trying to get treatment from a school 276 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: that was bombed, that was being used as a shelter, 277 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: that was recently bombed by the IDs. So let's kind 278 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: of put these images up on the screen. So again, 279 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: these images profoundly disturbing. Here you can see the strike 280 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: on the hospital complex. 281 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: And the resulting fire. 282 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: You know, it was a real judgment call whether it 283 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: include the images you're about to see in the show, 284 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: because they are so horrifying. These are people who you know, 285 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: are being burned alive inside their tents, suffering severe burns 286 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: and injuries. But you know, we felt like it was 287 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: important to show what your taxpayer dollars are funding. Drop 288 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Site actually pulled out some of these images. This is 289 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: someone being engulfed in flames who is hooked up to 290 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: an IV As I said before, for this is a 291 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: hospital where many people were receiving treatment after an Israeli 292 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: bombing of a school uh turned shelter. I'll go ahead 293 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: and tell you the Israelis claimed that this was you know, 294 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: a Hamas command and control center, a justification of course, 295 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: that they've used for destroying effectively the entire Gaza Strip. 296 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: At this point, we also know that they have told 297 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: everyone to leave Northern Gaza, but then also are firing 298 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: upon people who were trying. 299 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: To leave Northern Gaza. 300 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: So there's just literally nowhere that is safe in the 301 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Gaza Strip. Of course, we know many times that there, 302 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, people have gone to the supposed safe zones 303 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: only to be bombed, drone struck, all of those things. 304 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: So just the latest horror that you know, like I 305 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: said before, I think early in the conflict, this would 306 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: have ignited a news cycle, would have you know, caused 307 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: a significant discussion debate. Israelis would have had to come 308 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: on and spin and do their whole full haspara. 309 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: Now you know, New York Times mentioned it, but that's 310 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: about it. 311 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: That's about as far as it will go, and these 312 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: scenes of daily horror just sort of fade into the 313 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: background at this point. In addition, we can put D 314 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: eight up on the screen as well, we've got just 315 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: more images of the destruction in Northern Gaza, just to 316 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, add to the point of this. This is 317 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: what is ongoing, so supposedly, you know Northern Gaza, this 318 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: was where they originally had invaded, and you know, massive devastation. 319 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: These are families that are sheltering and in the background 320 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: you can actually hear bombs being dropped or tanks firing. 321 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: You can hear the violence outside and these children are 322 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: cowering and wondering if they're gonna escape with their lives. 323 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Let's put the next piece up on the screen here. 324 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: In addition to the violence, no food has entered northern 325 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: this month, So in all of October it's now October fourteenth, 326 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: no food has entered whatsoever Ciena no pines, putting one 327 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: million people at risk of starvation, and of course Israel's 328 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: blocking this aid from coming in. They track that in 329 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: August you had about seven hundred AID trucks out in 330 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: Northern Gaza, already wildly insufficient. In September only four hundred, 331 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: and now in October, according to the World Food Program, 332 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: no food trucks have entered Northern Gaza, and bib At 333 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: Yahoo is actively floating, starving that population in order to 334 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: try to starve Hamas like this is as blatantly, you know, 335 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: horrific and atrocity as you can possibly imagine. It's the 336 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: definition of collective punishment. And none of us can claim 337 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: we didn't know, because it's happening all in front of 338 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: our eyes. Many of the bakeries in northern Gaza have 339 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: been shut down for days at this point because they 340 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: have no food, no fuel, no flower, no ability to 341 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: produce bread, which has become like the staple food item 342 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: for Palestinians in Gaza. So even as we continue to 343 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: watch what's happening with Hesbla and with Iran and all 344 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: these other things, the atrocities in Gaza just continue a 345 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: pace and if anything escalate. 346 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, what the Israelis have decided to do is basically 347 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: like declare war on all fronts. So you have Hesba Lah, 348 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: you have Lebanon, you also have the Gaza stuff that 349 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: is ramping up. But really what you're watching is the 350 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: total survival of bb Netchanngahu and also of explicitly ditching 351 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: any sort of mentioning of the remaining hostages inside of Israel, 352 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: which I'm still waiting just to see if there will 353 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: be any sort of domestic pushback. We have that story 354 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: about those IDF soldiers who are like, we won't fight 355 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: if it's not about the hostages. But I think he's 356 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: pretty successfully moved it now from this and when you 357 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: move past the hostages, then nothing really is restraining you 358 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: from doing whatever you want, either in Gaza, in Lebanon 359 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: or anywhere else, because now it's about some bigger project. 360 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: And remember we still have not yet seen the Israeli 361 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: retaliation on Iran, which people's say could come any day now. 362 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: And I would be a fool if I didn't think 363 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: it would be politically calculated as well, you know, to 364 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: come at the maximum point of impact for politics here 365 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: in the United States. 366 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean now they're just openly talking about 367 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: ethnic cleansing, like it's not even hitten below the surface, 368 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: Like it's just openly floating plans of effectively a final 369 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: solution here, because they've decided that there is no possibility 370 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: of peaceful coexistence. They've decided absolutely any ends is justified. 371 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: They've decided that their own safety and security can be 372 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: secured through bombing and guns and starvation and annihilation and 373 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: weapons and you know, I don't think that that's true, 374 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: even if you don't care about the human costs, which is, 375 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, moral outrage of unconscionable levels. I don't think 376 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: you secure safety and security by breeding hatred for your 377 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: state and your government and your people throughout the entire 378 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: region that you're going to continue to. 379 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: Have to live in. 380 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: So in any case, that's the latest horror for you. 381 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sorry in a sense to have 382 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: to show you those images, But as I said before, 383 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we continue to look at 384 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: what our government and our taxpayers, what is being done 385 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: in our name. 386 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: Make no mistake about it. 387 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: Those horrific images of patients being burned alive in tents. 388 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: That's being done with the United States of America's name 389 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: written all over it. So horrifying, just utterly horrifying, brutal. 390 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: We're going to turn down to some domestic politics. So Crystal, 391 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: what are you taking a look at? 392 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: Well? 393 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: In Jade Vance's recent interview with The New York Times, 394 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: he refused on five separate occasions to say that Trump 395 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: lost the twenty twenty election. This, of course, comes on 396 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: the heels of his similar refusal to admit that Trump 397 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: lost on the debate stage when he was asked directly 398 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: by Tim Walls. Both times, he claimed that tech company's 399 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: handling of the Hunter Biden laptop story rendered that election 400 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: unfair and invalid. 401 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to what he had to say 402 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 4: in the debate. 403 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 5: You were asked to clarify if you believe Trump lost 404 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty election. Do you believe he lost the 405 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 5: twenty twenty election? 406 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 6: I think that Donald Trump and I have both raised 407 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 6: a number of issues with the twenty twenty election, but 408 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 6: were focused on the future. I think there's an obsession 409 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: here with focusing on twenty twenty. I'm much more worried 410 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 6: about what happened after twenty twenty, which is a wide 411 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 6: open border, groceries that are unaffordable. 412 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 5: And look, Senator yes or no? Did Donald Trump lose 413 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty elections? 414 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question. Is it okay that 415 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 6: big technology companies censored the Hunter Biden laptop story, which 416 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 6: independent analysis have said cost Donald Trump millions of votes? 417 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: Senator Vance, I'm going to ask you again, did Donald 418 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 5: Trump lose the twenty twenty election? 419 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 6: Did big technology companies censor a story that independent studies 420 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 6: have suggest us that would have cost Trump millions of votes. 421 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 5: And that's the question I'm going to ask you again, 422 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: did Donald Trump lose the twenty. 423 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 6: Nine I've answered your question with another question. You answer 424 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 6: my question, and all answer yours. 425 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: Now, this is a wild answer to begin with. Of course, 426 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: I say this as someone, by the way, who objected 427 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: to the censorship of the Hunter laptop story still does 428 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: object to the censorship of the Hunter laptop story. 429 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: You can go back and roll. 430 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: The tapes if you want to check that that is true. 431 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: The notion though, that because a tech company didn't handle 432 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: something the way you wanted it to, an entire election 433 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: is null and void and the votes of over one 434 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million people rendered invalid. That is frankly insane. 435 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: But that's the marker that JD. Vans and many others 436 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: have laid down. So what do we make now of this? 437 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: The New York Times is reporting that the Trump campaign 438 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: coordinated with billionaire Elon Musk to censor reporting on the JD. 439 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Vans vetting dossier on Twitter and to suspend the account 440 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: of journalist Ken Clippenstein on that platform. Now, Twitter justified 441 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: this suspension by claiming that Ken had i leaded the 442 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: rules of the platform by failing to redact personal details 443 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: like jd Vance's address. It was always pretty clear, though, 444 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: the real motivations here, where political, had nothing to do 445 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: with this supposed doxing. First of all, Can actually sought 446 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: to comply by going ahead and redacting those personal details 447 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: and re uploading the dossier, but to no avail. More 448 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: to the point, though, one of the primary complaints that 449 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: Elon had about the previous Twitter management, and part of 450 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: his rationale for buying the company, was their censorship of 451 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop story. However, that story had far 452 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: more personal details of private individuals, by the way, including 453 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: credit card details nude photos, than the jd vance dossio, 454 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: which only included a few easily googleable items. In other words, 455 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: there is no consistent standard by which the Hunter Biden 456 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: info would be allowed, but the jdvance info would be blocked. 457 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: The motivation was politics, pure and simple, as is now 458 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: confirmed by the New York Times. Now, since that New 459 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: York Times reporting, Musk actually reinstated Ken, potentially due to 460 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: legal concerns actually, but the underlying material continues to suppressed. 461 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: So to everyone on the right who cried foul on 462 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: the laptop, and especially to those who claim that it's 463 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: censorship constituted election interference sufficient to nullify the results of 464 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. What say you now, is this also disqualifying 465 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: election fraud? Is it also a constitution ending threat to 466 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: free speech? Because the irony here is that the thing 467 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: that they accused Jack Dorsey and prior Twitter management of 468 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: which was running the platform in a way that favored Democrats, 469 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: that is now being done openly and explicitly by Musk, 470 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: one of the richest men in the world, except not 471 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: for Democrats this time, but for Republicans, not only by 472 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: suspending Ken and banning links to the jd Vance dossier, 473 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: but by engineering Twitter's algorithm to boost pro Trump messaging, 474 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: and by using Elon's own account, which is in everyone's feed, 475 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: whether they followim or not, to promote right wing propaganda 476 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes derange conspiracy theories. But Musk's election and influence 477 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: goes far beyond Kenklippenstein, and even far beyond Twitter. Elon is, 478 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: after all, Donald Trump's largest supporter by dot figures and 479 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: by campaign involvement. Now we don't fully know how much 480 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: money Musk has put in, but Trump is bragging that 481 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: the number is around five hundred million dollars half a 482 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: billion dollars. But that is actually even that just the 483 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: beginning of Musk's support. We all know he jumped for 484 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: Joy at a Trump rally and Butler Pennsylvania. What you 485 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: may not know, though, is that he has effectively moved 486 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania full time to run a turnout operation on 487 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: behalf of Trump in the critical swing state. According to 488 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: The New York Times, Musk is quote personally steering the 489 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: actions of a super pack that he has funded with 490 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars to turn out the vote 491 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: from mister Trump, not just in Pennsylvania but across the country. 492 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: He's even proposed taking a campaign bus tour across Pennsylvania 493 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: and knocking on doors himself, in part to see how 494 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: his money is being used. They went on to quote 495 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: a historian of the ultra rich saying that the level 496 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: of funding and the direct involvement here from Musk is 497 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: without precedent in modern history. In Musk, of course, he's 498 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: no disinterested actor. His company profit to the tune of 499 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars from federal government contracts. In fact, 500 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: according to Politico, he is among the largest Pentagon contractors. 501 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Tesla and SpaceX alone received over fifteen billion dollars of 502 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: our tax dollars just last year. In other words, Musk 503 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: is one of the deep state's top beneficiaries and allies. 504 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: Elon also happens to be at war right now with 505 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: the federal government on a wide variety of fronts. So 506 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: SpaceX is fighting with aviation regulators to. 507 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 4: Loosen their rules. 508 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: It's also at war with the nation's body governing labor 509 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: relations that's the NLRB, over the illegal firing of workers. 510 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: In fact, contrary to Trump's new union careerious approach, Elon 511 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: is seeking to have the entire National Labor Relations Board 512 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: deemed unconstitutional and dismantled, an outcome which would be tantamount to. 513 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: A death sentence for unions. 514 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: SpaceX is also in conflict with the EPA over wastewater 515 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: discharges in Texas. Meanwhile, Tesla has been sued for discrimination 516 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission overclaims of racism and 517 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: a legal retaliation for Trump to win, Elon could well 518 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: be in a position to influence these regulatory and enforcement decisions. 519 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: After all, Trump has already promised him a plum government 520 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: gig should the former president return to the White House. 521 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 4: Trump has said he would. 522 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: Put Elon on top of a government efficiency task force, 523 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: which would give him potentially all sorts of power to 524 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: squeeze his competitors and further faten his own coffers. 525 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: There's a lot of fat in government that you would 526 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: want to So what agencies would you want to shut down? 527 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 7: Well, let me have you asked another person that, because 528 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 7: I'm going to have Elon Musk. He's he is dying 529 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 7: to do this. You know, he's a great business guy. 530 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 7: Actually you think of him for science and rockets. And 531 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 7: every time I think he's telling me about a new 532 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 7: screw was developed, he's developed a new screw. Screws of 533 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 7: difficult and it's made out of titanium and it's so exciting. 534 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 7: But you know what, he's a great business guy. And 535 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 7: he's a great cost cutter. You've seen that. And he 536 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 7: said I could cut cost without affecting anybody. 537 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: So he will be in the cabinet. 538 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 7: Not in the cabinet. He doesn't want to be in 539 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 7: the cab He just wants to be in charge of 540 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 7: cost cutting, who have a new position, Secretary of cost cutting. Okay, 541 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 7: Elon wants to do that, and we have incredible people. 542 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 7: He's running a big business. You know, he can't just say, oh, 543 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 7: I think I'll go into the cabinet. You know, other 544 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 7: people can. 545 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 4: He can't. 546 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 7: But Elon's a little bit different in that sense, and 547 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 7: besays that I wanted to send the rocket up to Mars. 548 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 7: He said, He's made me a promise he'll get to 549 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 7: Mars before the end of my administration, which will be 550 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 7: long before hopefully China or Russia. 551 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: So that's the official campaign position that's been floated, not 552 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: to say nothing of the favors that Elon could curry 553 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: with Trump himself or the giant tax breaks that Trump 554 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: is promising to all billionaires. As the wealthiest man in 555 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: the world with business interests across a range of industries, 556 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: maybe no one stands to gain or lose more depending 557 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: on the administration in power than Elon Musk, a point 558 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: he actually joked about recently with Tucker Carlson, remarking that 559 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: if Trump loses, he is screwed. It goes without saying 560 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: the billionaires buying government to protect their class interests is 561 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: exactly the sort of thing that anyone actually committed to 562 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: democracy should strenuously oppose, regardless of partisan affiliation. Billionaire political influence, 563 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: after all, is nothing new. It knows no political party. 564 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris has already raised a billion dollars in less 565 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: than three months on the trail. Mark Cuban and Reid Hoffman, 566 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: among others, are using their influence right now to try 567 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: to shape a future Harris administration's anti trust and sec 568 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: enforcement strategies, with Lena Khan firmly in their cross hairs, 569 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: something we have covered multiple times on this show. But 570 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: when you put it all together, no exaggeration to say 571 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: that Musk is single handedly testing the limits of how 572 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: far one billionaire can go to buy an election and 573 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: remake the government to suit himself and his business's needs. 574 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: You can only imagine the level of freak out on 575 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: the right if this situation was reversed. 576 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: Now. 577 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: Probably the closest equivalent to Elon on the harriside is 578 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Reied Hoffman. That is, the LinkedIn billionaire has become its 579 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: democratic donor. Donations are not fully transparent in the American 580 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: political system, so we can't say exactly how much Hoffman 581 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: or Musk have given, But the latest numbers suggest Hoffman 582 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: has given seven million. 583 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: To Harris affiliated packs. 584 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, but it is pennies compared 585 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: to the five hundred million Musk is supposedly throwing in 586 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: on Trump's side. Hoffman also doesn't have substantial government contracts. 587 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't run an entire social media platform to benefit 588 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. There is truly no parallel for the influence 589 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: of a single individual on the Democratic side that comes 590 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: anywhere close to the staggering influence this election of Elon Musk. Now, 591 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen, you'll recall Trump ran on draining 592 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: the swamp. He ran against the corruption of money and politics, 593 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: famously held himself out as uncorruptible because of his own 594 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: personal wealth, claiming that he alone could dismantle this corrupt 595 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: influence pedaling scheme because as a wealthy donor himself, he 596 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: knew all too well how all of this favor trading works. 597 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Now he's openly celebrating when the world's richest men funneling 598 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: him five hundred million dollars, directing crucial components of his 599 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: campaign and running a social media giant on his behalf 600 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: Musk claims that if Trump doesn't win this election, democracy 601 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: will be over. Kind of a preposterous claim given the 602 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: guy who's backing literally tried to overturn our democratic results 603 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: and blot the peaceful transfer of power last time around. 604 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: But in truth, even considering the disgrace of January sixth 605 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: and the fake elector scheme, I actually think it's fair 606 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: to say Musk himself might represent a more dire threat 607 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: to democracy. The politics he's pursuing puts the whims of 608 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: one billionaire oligarch, his ideology, his business interests over the 609 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: will of the people, putting him in position to run 610 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: the federal government with the bias and impunity with which 611 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: he runs X. In such a system where money is power, 612 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: no matter which candidate wins, the people of the country. 613 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: Will always lose. And I really think there's been two little. 614 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: Spirit And if you want to hear my reaction to 615 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. 616 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: There was also Alius incident that we wanted to spotlight. 617 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly what it shows us about America, 618 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: but certainly something. Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan participating in 619 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: a TikTok trend that was weird. Some might say, let's 620 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: take a listen. Okay, so what you saw there that 621 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: was what's your name, Liz playing That's right, Liz Plank. 622 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: She's a feminist whatever, activist, journalist, except influencer who was 623 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: participating in TikTok video. There where Gretchen Whitmer is feeding 624 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: her at Dorrito a la, somebody who was participating in communion. 625 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: This of course. 626 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: Invited a huge backlash from a Catholic community, requiring Whitmer 627 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: to issue an apology. Let's put this up there on 628 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: the screen, she says, over twenty five years in public service, 629 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 2: I would never do anything to denigrate someone's faith. I 630 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: have used my platform to stand up for people's rights 631 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: to hold a practice a person of reallyious believe. My 632 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: team has spoken can to the Michigan Catholic Conference. What 633 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: was supposed to be a video about the importance of 634 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: the Chips Act to Michigan jobs has been construed as 635 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: something it was never intended to be, and I apologize 636 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: for that. So that somehow was about the Chips Act 637 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: building semiconductors in a state of mission. 638 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure how they got there. 639 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: I don't get, I don't understand. 640 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just old, I don't know. Apparently this is 641 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: like a. 642 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: TikTok this was a trend. Yeah. 643 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: But the other thing. 644 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: Is I think the chips AC thing might be in 645 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: like after the fact rationalization. 646 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: I think you're right. 647 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: I think because when Liz initially posted the video on 648 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: her Instagram for disclosure, I know Liz I used to 649 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: work with her, et cetera, et cetera, she didn't. 650 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: Say anything about the chips Act. 651 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: She said something like if he won't, she will or 652 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: something like that. I was like, I don't know, and 653 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: people in the comments were like, what is this? What 654 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: does this mean? And then once there started to be 655 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: this backlash, then she either editor repot hosted it with 656 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: something about the chips Act. So I feel like that 657 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: may have been like an attempt to clean it up 658 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: after the fact. 659 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 660 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: I have no idea you actually told me. I didn't 661 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: realize this that crushing Wimer is kind of big on TikTok. 662 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: Yes, No, she's very very she is TikTok pilled, like 663 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: beyond anyone. Yeah, she might be the most like in 664 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: touch slash on TikTok National Democratic politician, as I understand, 665 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: but she does all of these boards. 666 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 3: I guess. 667 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: I guess the thing is this was like being in 668 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: touch with TikTok. 669 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a way that puts you way out of 670 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: touch with what anyone else would perceive in watching this video. 671 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know, Liza, I'm not religious, so the 672 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: communion thing didn't honestly come to mind. 673 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 4: For me when I first watched. I just thought, like, 674 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: what the hell is this? 675 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 3: I've only been knew. 676 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: I think I've been to a Catholic mass twice as 677 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: an attendee, just funerals or. 678 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 3: Weddings or whatever. And even I was like, oh man, 679 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: I was like. 680 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 5: So. 681 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: The caption, by the way, actually did try and play 682 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: into the Chips Act. 683 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 3: It said, chips aren't just delicious. 684 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: The Chips Act is a game changer for US tank 685 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: and manufacturing, boosting domestic production of semiconductors to reduce reliance 686 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: on foreign suppliers. Donald Trump would put that at risk, 687 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: is what the caption reads. So I have again no 688 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: idea why that you would participate in this, especially for 689 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: a quote unquote chipsack. 690 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 3: Thing for abortion. 691 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: Look like taking my cringe factor out of it, Like, 692 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: when I see these politicians doing these, how do you 693 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: say that the apple dance or whatever? 694 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: Is that brat is that Charlie? It's the extra chap. 695 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 3: I forget whatever's Charlie a charge. 696 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: So when they do the apple dance, I'm cringing, but 697 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well they're talking an abortion, like you know, 698 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: it's whatever. 699 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: Not for me, it's clearly to somebody else. 700 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 2: When I see Josh Shapiro, he does a ton of 701 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: tiktoks about again about abortion with like the blinking eyes 702 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: thing where he's like when Republicans want to take abortion away, 703 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: it's like blank blank again. I think it's cringe, but 704 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: I understand and like the formulation this, I don't get it. 705 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, how did you get here? It also shows 706 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: the danger of being I guess too online well from 707 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: the Democratic side, and so that's why it's also worth 708 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: there because. 709 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: We've seen that many times on the Republican side, I guess. 710 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the era we live in now, right, 711 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it does go perfectly with the conversation we're 712 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: just having about like podcasts and rogan and how like 713 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: if you want to reach this demographic. In some ways, 714 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: the Republican side has sort of leaned into Twitter, like 715 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Elon's Twitter, as their sort of vibe and energy, and 716 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: Democrats have sort of leaned into like TikTok as their 717 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: vibe and energy this election. And you know this is 718 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: some of the fallout of that. I guess that's the 719 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: most substanctive point I could make. 720 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: Well said, all right, we'll see you guys later.