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Speaker 1: Military News and straight Talk with the guys and the

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Speaker 1: Randon Webb is here with me for this episode and

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Speaker 1: this is a really special one because we were both

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Speaker 1: just watching We Are Not Done Yet, which premiers tonight

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Speaker 1: as we're taping this on HBO. We have Jeffrey Wright,

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Speaker 1: producer of the film, along with April Harris, a army

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Speaker 1: that of twenty six years in studio, and I mean

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Speaker 1: know a lot of you guys probably recognized Jeffrey Casino,

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Speaker 1: Royal Boardwalk, Empire, The Hunger Games, Uh, and Tony and

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Speaker 1: and I think as leadership, we get hurt too, and

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Speaker 1: I need to stand up and say that that I

430
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Speaker 1: was hurt and and um, I'm not alone, But that

431
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel comforted that other people have been

432
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: hurt like I've been hurt. But I want to also

433
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Speaker 1: show the perspective of as a commander, my soldier was

434
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: allegedly raping the three females. But my job is to

435
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: maintained or care for his health and welfare. You're talking

436
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: about a struggle. Then I felt like I've betrayed my

437
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: sisters that had been hurt. It was hard, guys, it

438
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: was hard, and no one would listen to that. No

439
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: one has thought that this could happen. Yeah, no, I

440
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: remember what you said. It was when you try to

441
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: report the incident and they were saying, well, this guy

442
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: is this career which is bullshit, and it's tough, like

443
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: it becomes. I've seen it in my own community where

444
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: you have this element in the in the seals, guys

445
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: are getting away with stuff and I'm like, and then

446
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: guys are afraid to say something because they don't want

447
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: to like blow the whistle on what could potentially be

448
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: seen as a war crime or embezzlement stuff. Uh, and

449
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: then you bring it up and then you're the bad guy. Absolutely.

450
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: So it's it's a tough environment. But it's funny that

451
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: you say that. Going back to something that Jeffrey said

452
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: that we want to take care of ourselves, there's a

453
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: point which that is okay, But it was almost like

454
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: what happens in the house stays in the house, and

455
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to do damage to this that I

456
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: love so much. So you're you're, you're, you're really you're

457
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: really screwed because I don't want to put us in

458
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: the limelight. There's so many people doing a good job.

459
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: I got hurt and I'm going to be quiet about

460
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: it because I don't want to do damage to this organization,

461
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: this institution that has grown me, groomed me, and that

462
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: I love. It's it's it's crazy, it's it's it's the

463
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: conundrum of it, the whole dynamic. It's just crazy. Um,

464
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: how do we fix all of that? Opening up the

465
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: doors of communication is a start. It doesn't cost us

466
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: anything to allow to have a space where I can

467
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: feel safe and just communicated. So if I'm gonna ask

468
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Speaker 1: you another question about the v A, like in your opinion,

469
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: like what's what's your if you had a magic wand

470
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: it could change the v A, Like how would what

471
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: are some of the things that you would I'm glad

472
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: you have said if I had a magic wand I'd

473
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Speaker 1: hold D O D S as accountable. I'm not saying

474
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Speaker 1: that the v A is phenomenal, but all the burden

475
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: is being placed on the v A. D O D

476
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: use some of your money, your resources before you put

477
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Speaker 1: me out. How about we address some of these issues

478
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: before they go twenty and forty years too long? Yeah,

479
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's the I mean the guy

480
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: that serves it doesn't matter like ten twenty years men

481
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: or woman that there's like a week. I think it's

482
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: the same, right, this transition program, it's like a week

483
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: long thing, half days. A lot of people skip it,

484
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: but it's is you're like, I love my military experience.

485
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I had an amazing ups and downs, but it was

486
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: a great experience for me. But transitioning back, I describe

487
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: it almost like it must be what it's like being

488
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: in prison for ten years and you're used to the structure, routine,

489
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: pay every two weeks, and then you're out and it's

490
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: just like it's a shock. But and in the just

491
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: the lack of support. Once you're out, you're right, but

492
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: that forbid you have medical issues. Yeah, and that's the

493
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: sad thing there is Like I know how to use

494
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: the v A, like I'm not supposed to have the

495
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: same primary care doctor, but I went in, made friends

496
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: with this Diego guy and said, hey, dude, you're with me,

497
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be bounced around and he's like, hey,

498
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: I got your back. And so I go to San

499
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Diego just to see this guy once a year. Um.

500
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Speaker 1: But the guys, the people that really need the help,

501
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: they're just it's like going to the d m V

502
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: almost the VA hospitals. They're just looking for an excuse

503
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: to say no and push you off. And there are

504
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: a lot of good people at the v A. But

505
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: I think the culture, that culture needs to change. Um,

506
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: how do you think it changes? Because what what? What?

507
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: What needs to happen? Because we hear this, you know,

508
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: generation after generation. I think, look, I run a run

509
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: a business today. We use okay RS, which is basically

510
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's these performance objectives, Like you have to

511
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: have a clear strategy. Um, the v A needs a

512
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: clear mission statement like we are going to do this

513
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: for veterans and that flows top down and then you

514
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: need to have very clear objectives and then hold people accountable.

515
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: It's just like back to the foreign policy strategy, Um,

516
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: like what is that nobody knows? And when nobody knows,

517
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: that's the big red flag. Right when nobody knows what

518
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: America stands for overseas, Like what are we doing in Afghanistan?

519
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, still have troops in in northern Iraq and

520
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: in Syria. That's a big problem. Like and you look

521
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: at it a cause like when we put when JFK

522
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: had this mission to put a man on the moon,

523
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Speaker 1: We're gonna put a man on the moon. That that's

524
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: very simple. Everybody in the country knew what the hell

525
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: that was and and got behind it. And we need

526
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Speaker 1: we need more simplicity in these in these strategies, like

527
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: have a very clear strategic look. We're going to you know,

528
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: if I'm running the VA, maybe it's you know, we

529
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: are going to basically treat the veteran holistically and give

530
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: him show them a better way. That's simple. And then

531
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Speaker 1: if I could, if I can say something to that,

532
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know, just food for thought. I'm confused,

533
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: and so my entire career has been in the hospital environment.

534
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm confused with first of all, D O D and

535
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: then v A. Why is this less than or not

536
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: about patient care? It's not if you go to the

537
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: v A, you're doing documentation to make sure that I

538
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: either continue to get the money or don't get the

539
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: money anymore. It's not about patient care. If I go

540
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: to Johns Hopkins, they're not documenting in my records that, um,

541
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: I ran down three steps. I'm being facetious, but really

542
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: there document every move. People know from the time you

543
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: walk in that door, somebody's watching you. You don't wear

544
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: nice clothes, you can't speak more than you know three

545
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: words or five syllables. You understand what I'm saying. You're

546
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: going to lead a lot of people because they need

547
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: the money. They deserve the money. They already had the money.

548
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: Why are you at risk for losing the money, because

549
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: then that keeps us stagnant from growth. Because if you

550
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: take this, what do I do now? I think we're

551
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: caught up in treating the symptoms, right, We're just we're

552
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: in this endless, vicious cycle of just treating the symptoms

553
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: where you just look at America as a whole, right,

554
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Like we should be investing in our children's education, um,

555
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: teaching them how to eat healthier. Like you look at

556
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: the school. I have kids in school that the stuff

557
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: that they want to put in front of them to

558
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: eat is disgusting, Like, and you know, we need to

559
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: invest in these like fundamentals to get us better as

560
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a country as opposed to just like trying to band aid,

561
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: fix the immigration policy. This this massive like we should

562
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: teach kids like don't take that student loan, Like we

563
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: have this predatory student lending going on. Um, the access

564
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: to health care isn't there for not just veterans, for

565
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: most of America. Um, Like, we've got big problems and

566
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: we need to start investing in and like the root

567
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: cause right oppose it is like treating the symptoms. Like

568
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: right now, we we have a vanishing middle class in America.

569
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: That's why our politics have pushed to the extremes. Um, Like,

570
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do about that? So I think

571
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: there's may be one area on the on the on

572
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: the target that could be hit, that could send a

573
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: ripple throughout all of this. It's getting money out of

574
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: politics because the policy decisions are not being made based

575
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: on the interests of you know, the well being of

576
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: all of us. That are being made on the behalf

577
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: of special interests. And they're you know, they're simply you know,

578
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: would there be the pharmaceutical companies or whether it be

579
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the military industrial complex, Uh that those those companies. They're

580
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: just they just have an un disproportionate uh weight to

581
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: bear on the on the on the decision making of

582
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: the of the politicians and the lawmakers, and the policy

583
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: the policymakers. And so if we if we can hit

584
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: that bull's eye, then I think we can begin to

585
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: reshape a lot of these issues, not only for veterans

586
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: and for the military, but education, and and and and

587
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: uh and a whole raft of things. I know you

588
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: guys are on a tight schedule promoting this film. You

589
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: got places to go. The last question from myself is Jeffrey,

590
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: as a fellow civilian, I think we all feel like

591
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: we're objective and we view these issues, but we all

592
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: have our own prism that we view the world through.

593
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: I'm wondering when you got involved in this project, what

594
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: was like the biggest misconception that you had about veterans

595
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: that maybe shifted after being involved in We're not done yet. UM.

596
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: I think the thing that I've been so struck by is, um,

597
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: how raised or sharp and interesting they're thinking is really

598
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: really you know, you think perhaps people work within structures,

599
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: institutional structures and things like that, but just the with

600
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: this group, the level of creative thinking. Um, has just

601
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: blown my mind. Um, But that's not to say that

602
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: I didn't experience that before with you know, for example,

603
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: the major general that I mentioned. That guy, you know,

604
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: he came from a long line of African Americans who served.

605
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: He said, you know, when Vietnam Vietnam War war was happening,

606
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: he said, his father said, we we son, we don't.

607
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: We don't wait to be asked, So he enlisted. He

608
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: went to a funeral at one point, Um, a few

609
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: years ago, I said, Fred, were you going to say,

610
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Speaker 1: I'm going to Las Vegas funeral my cousin. He's the

611
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: oldest living Buffalo soldier. I think the guy was like

612
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Speaker 1: a hundred and sixteen he passed, but he you know,

613
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: long line of military service, all these things. Major general

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Speaker 1: guy was one of the most progressive thinkers I've ever encountered. Yeah, absolutely,

615
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: and and and you know, and creative and the the

616
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: gentleman who took me to Siri Leon. His name was

617
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: Fred Marafono. He was like kind of a legend in

618
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: those special forces circles and as well, just progressive, compassionate thinker,

619
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Speaker 1: creative thinker. So working with these folks only reinforced that.

620
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: For me, I was like I was just you know,

621
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: just blown just blown away. And I think it shatters

622
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: as we talked about earlier. It shatters those those preconceptions

623
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Speaker 1: and those misconceptions about who folks are UM, and it

624
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: just it just needs to be known. And again, you know,

625
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: not to keep you know, keep blowing our horn. But

626
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: HBO A p M. You're not done. HBO, We're not

627
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: done yet. And also I was gonna say, follow Jeffrey

628
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at j free right j f

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Speaker 1: R E E w R I g H T April,

630
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Speaker 1: do you have anything you're pluging because I actually saw

631
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: the website, but it looks like that under construction or

632
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: it's under construction. So I started my company, Lived Life

633
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: and Victory and UM. What I want to take to

634
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: businesses and to people is UM. For me, there's three stages.

635
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: There's a victim. I will always be a victim of

636
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: many traumas. And then the survival survival is hand the mouth,

637
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: a hard life. I don't like to be called a

638
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: survivor UM. But now I'm a victor. I'm living victoria,

639
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: victorious life. I'm dealing with things around me. I'm appreciating

640
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: people I meet. I'm open to the world and it's

641
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Speaker 1: a wonderful place to be. This has been a total

642
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Speaker 1: honor for you guys watching on YouTube. The rest of

643
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Speaker 1: the podcast is gonna be up where we usually put it,

644
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Speaker 1: so Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all that good stuff, SoundCloud. Really

645
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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys coming in. This has been a total honor.

646
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Speaker 1: And check out the documentary. We both loved it. We

647
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: are not done yet on hbo um some of you're

648
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: probably hearing this. You're seeing this after so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: on demand will be replaying absolutely all that. Thanks guys,

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Speaker 1: you it. That was Apple and honor having both of

651
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Speaker 1: those guys on having Jeffrey in April on. Be sure

652
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Speaker 1: to check out We are not done yet. And of

653
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: course it's a great yeah, great doc man. And when

654
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Speaker 1: I watched it, it it was like, this is exactly what

655
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Speaker 1: I was doing with big Mountain heroes. It's the same

656
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Speaker 1: kind of thing, like, let's show people and give a

657
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Speaker 1: voice to these these guys very diverse, right, like Leo

658
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Speaker 1: jenkins Um too, the other vets we had on, Yeah,

659
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Speaker 1: Nick betts Um. You just see really interesting guys. And and

660
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Speaker 1: and nick Na who who works for us, Um, you

661
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Speaker 1: know how he's really stepped up and helping on the

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Speaker 1: on the creative advertising that we're doing across all the

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Speaker 1: different different assets, including Craig Club. But yeah, just show

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Speaker 1: that voice and I think, you know, we are not

665
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Speaker 1: done yet. It's forty minutes. It's it's a great kind

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Speaker 1: of window into um. You know what I would say

667
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Speaker 1: the other almost, I see the other side. I've had

668
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Speaker 1: a good like it wasn't an easy transition, but I

669
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Speaker 1: feel like I've transitioned. I've you know, become I've had success.

670
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Speaker 1: And my whole mission is to lead a positive, successful

671
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Speaker 1: life and show as any show other Ventans like hey,

672
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Speaker 1: look you can do this, you can get out. You

673
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: don't have to play the victim. Um. But there's some

674
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: interesting dynamics going on in that in that show, And

675
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: it was sad for me to see the ranger get

676
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Speaker 1: you know, he had that adderall that he took, which

677
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: by the way, the military in some cases prescribes that

678
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Speaker 1: to fucking guys overseas um. And he popped on a

679
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Speaker 1: drug test and he gets separated as a single dad

680
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Speaker 1: raising a daughter, and then his daughter loses the GI

681
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Speaker 1: bill because of it. I didn't think like stuff like that,

682
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Speaker 1: those kind of issues people need to know about because

683
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Speaker 1: I think the general public would be shocked, like here's

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Speaker 1: this ranger who served whatever it was ten I think

685
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Speaker 1: almost ten years and then he's just like boom, You're out,

686
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: no benefits, doesn't matter. Um, have a nice life. Like

687
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Speaker 1: you could see like frustration and anger come through and

688
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: in that situation. So you know, the more people that

689
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Speaker 1: see this kind of stuff and spread the word, the better.

690
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Speaker 1: And I'm glad like the veterans are kind of coming

691
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Speaker 1: out of the and doing more projects like this running

692
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Speaker 1: for office because we need that that voice of the

693
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Speaker 1: veteran out there in the community to kind of bring

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Speaker 1: us back to reality and a lot of things, Like

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to it during the interview with Jeffrey

696
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Speaker 1: in April, but you know what I wanted to say

697
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: too is like, look, I'm a huge I had a

698
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Speaker 1: great military experience. I'm we need a military. We need

699
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Speaker 1: a strong military. We need guys men and women who

700
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Speaker 1: are going to go basically defend innocent people against a

701
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of bad people in this world that that do

702
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: terrible things. Um, that needs to happen. And in my

703
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Speaker 1: own Afghan experience, like this. Everybody knew when I was

704
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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan in two thousand one and two two, everybody

705
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: knew what we were doing there. Like it was very

706
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Speaker 1: clear to me, We're over there to kill a bunch

707
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Speaker 1: of bad guys, disrupt the training camps, like wipe them

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Speaker 1: off the map, and that was it. And we did that,

709
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Speaker 1: and then we should have fucking left, you know, to

710
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Speaker 1: to see it just drag on out now seventeen fucking years,

711
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And what are we doing over there?

712
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: And then have my friends after I've been out saying, yeah,

713
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Speaker 1: i gotta go back to Afghanistan and I'm really not

714
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Speaker 1: looking forward to it because they know there's no fucking

715
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Speaker 1: point to it and we're losing good people. Um, that's

716
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Speaker 1: extremely frustrating, and you know, we need we need to

717
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of like shake people out of it. Right. I

718
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: think that it's great that this country has embraced the military,

719
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: this generation of military the way it has, but you know,

720
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Speaker 1: thank you for your service and and all the bullshit.

721
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Speaker 1: It's like, come on, like let's wake up and see

722
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: like there's nothing wrong with respecting this the men and

723
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: women who served. But enough of that, Like we got

724
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: big fucking problems to address in this country, like why

725
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Speaker 1: are we still in Afghanistan? Wi are troops in in

726
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Speaker 1: Northern Iraq? You know, what the funk are we doing

727
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Speaker 1: in East Africa? You know we we took a fucking

728
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Speaker 1: shipload of heat for posting that ambush video in Niger.

729
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Speaker 1: I guess what. When that happened in October last year,

730
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Speaker 1: nobody fucking knew about it. But when we put it up, boom,

731
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Speaker 1: it's in everyone's face and their outrage that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we are going to show Americans dying, you know, on

733
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Speaker 1: on camera. I remember what was being talked about actually

734
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Speaker 1: was all did Trump call the families? Did he not

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Speaker 1: call the families? And it wasn't even about what actually

736
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Speaker 1: went on. Yeah, and then it's like, you know, I'm

737
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Speaker 1: glad we posted that video. Eighty people sign a petition

738
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Speaker 1: for us to pull that down, and I'm like, fuck it, Like,

739
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Speaker 1: we are putting this up because people need to see

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Speaker 1: the brutal reality of war. It's not a fucking call

741
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Speaker 1: of duty video game. The people also signed petition like

742
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Speaker 1: they were so incorrect in what they put out there. Well,

743
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Speaker 1: and part of that video wasn't monetized. It wasn't part

744
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Speaker 1: of that was the usual suspects kind of fanning the

745
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Speaker 1: flames and and in this moral like outrage which was

746
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: complete bullshit. UM and Jack and the guy. Yeah, Jack

747
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Speaker 1: and the guys had a lot of balls for doing that.

748
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Speaker 1: I took a lot of heat. I mean, I lost

749
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Speaker 1: a lot of followers over that. Um. And I'm glad

750
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Speaker 1: we did it because that kind of in your face

751
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Speaker 1: raw stuff needs to be put out there. And it

752
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Speaker 1: fucking sucks that. You know, you've got some of the

753
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Speaker 1: families upset over it, But we had more than one

754
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Speaker 1: family member reach out to us and say thank you.

755
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Speaker 1: Nobody everyone forgot about this because you guys posted it.

756
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Speaker 1: Now it's this big conversation and and people are people

757
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Speaker 1: need to see this, like you know, we had. I

758
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Speaker 1: think it was one of the fathers reached out to

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Speaker 1: us and thanked us for having the guts to put

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Speaker 1: that up there, as much as it's saddened him. Um.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's what it's about, man, And and that's

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what I think makes this company great.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of the stuff we do, um, I mean,

764
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Speaker 1: we do it. We have a lot of fun. But

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Speaker 1: on the news side, you know, we're we're taking we're

766
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Speaker 1: we take a lot of heat. And I don't think

767
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Speaker 1: people realize that a lot of listeners on on on

768
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Speaker 1: this show don't realize like the heat that Jack, I mean,

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Speaker 1: death threats to his daughter, um, people in government calling

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Speaker 1: us late at night, trying to like people that know us,

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Speaker 1: Like no, Jack and I will reach out to these

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Speaker 1: people and get them to call us and try and

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Speaker 1: bully and pressure us not to do certain things that

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Speaker 1: I gotta call, like midnight call from some a friend

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00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: of mine, um that worked in the CIA, saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys, I just want to warn you that a

778
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Speaker 1: lot of people upset about this and the State Department

779
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Speaker 1: And I was like that just made me want to

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Speaker 1: publish it even more. I'm like, look, this country. What

782
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Speaker 1: gives us the freedom of expression, freedom of speech, um.

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785
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Speaker 1: Crenshaw in depth last episode. So yeah, which gets to

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Speaker 1: my point with um with Crenshaw. Um, look, Crenshaw's a

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Speaker 1: point I'm making to write, like the same group of

852
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: people that gets outrage and and talks ship on Instagram

853
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: and social media about oh, just lighting up snowflake, like

854
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: don't you know, get a thick skin, and then they

855
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: they're like outrage and they they act and behave the

856
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: same fucking way as they're they're accusing people of this

857
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: whole don't be PC, which look, I'm all for, Like,

858
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: come on, we're all we're all big boys. I have

859
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: no problem with SNL making fun of anything like. That's

860
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: what the beauty of comedy is. You can have take

861
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: on these major issues, um and and talk about it

862
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: in a funny way that gets people thinking and look

863
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: at everybody is fair game, right, especially when you're running

864
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: for office or in the media. I don't have a

865
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: problem with that. And I think the the you know,

866
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: the comedian who Pete Davison had stepped over the line

867
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: was that kind of insensitive comment he made, which the

868
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: joke itself would have been. That's exactly what Andrew Wilkow

869
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: said last show. I agreed with him. I think, yeah,

870
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: when he said, oh, he washed his iron combat or

871
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: something that was stupid. Yeah, that was and that was

872
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of where he crossed the line. And look, America

873
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: is great. I'm a big proponent of a free market system.

874
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: And that just shows you people whether they're voting with

875
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, their their dollars or their there um, their

876
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: likes on social media. You saw like he clearly crossed

877
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: the line. He got he got whacked for it publicly,

878
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's the beauty of America. Look,

879
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: if you you have the right to stand up and

880
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: say what you want, but you know, there's consequences sometimes, um,

881
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: you know they're not only does he have all those

882
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande tattoos after her breaking up with him, he

883
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: has a Hillary Quitton tattoo who the fund gets Hillary?

884
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: But look, man, I don't know the guy, and I

885
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: hate to judge, but my first glance is like, dude,

886
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: that's some he's got some issues, man, like some some

887
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: he got that guy. And look, I don't even think

888
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: the guy apologized to come on, everybody puts their foot

889
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: in their mouth. Like, there's not one fucking person listening

890
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: to show that has not put their foot in their

891
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: mouth and said something they regretted. Look me especially, I

892
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: can think of a couple of things. Um, but you know,

893
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: it just happens, but you gotta apologize for it, you know,

894
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: be fair though. Pete Davidson's brand of comedy, and we

895
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: talked about this last episode, has always been kind of

896
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: that outrageous comedy. So his dad, for those who don't

897
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: know it, was a firefighter who died in nine O

898
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: even which he jokes about. That is that something any

899
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: of us would joke about. Probably not, but that's He's

900
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: a brand of comedy, So I get it. But the

901
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: joke was poorly done. Yeah, absolutely, I don't think there's

902
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: any anyone that would it would argue differently. And somebody

903
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: on my Instagram saying, hey, his dad was in my

904
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: f D and I'm like great, like and that doesn't matter.

905
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: Just because you have a great dad doesn't mean you're

906
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: a good person, right, Um, Like, what about fucking Hitler's dad?

907
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Come on, so um and look,

908
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: Pete Davidson, I have nothing against the guy. He clearly

909
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of stepped over the line and got got whacked

910
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: for it. Um, And it is what it is, and

911
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: it probably in like you and I were talking before,

912
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: helped Crenshaw win his election because all of a sudden,

913
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: instantly the day before whatever it was a few days

914
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: before the election, boom, he gets this like massive publicity

915
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: spike so and good on it, man any more Vets

916
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: and politics. Second Congressional District of Texas. New congressman there.

917
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: And that's pretty cool because he's been on the show.

918
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: Was a completely down to earth guy. Um. And I

919
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: think he's a friend of some of our staff because

920
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: I remember Drew Wallace was the one who mentioned bringing

921
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: him on. So I think he might be a friend

922
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: of some guys we know. Yeah, Um, I don't know

923
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: if you're familiar with them. I mean, no, I don't

924
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: know what he community. Yeah, but no, but he was.

925
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: He was at Seal Team three, I think after me, Um,

926
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: which is funny. It's a weird to think about, but

927
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: there are so many interesting stuff, like interesting people that

928
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: like coming out of the Seal Team three. That command.

929
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about the command like

930
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: it was. The command was very pre nine eleven, a

931
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: very cool place to work. It was one of the

932
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: either a Team four was working in South America. Team

933
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: three was working in the Middle East. At that time,

934
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: we divided the team geographically. UM, and Team three was

935
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: this kind of like, you know, it attracted a certain person, right,

936
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: like guys wanted to work overseas. And when you look

937
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: at the the kind of Team three alma mater, Chris Kyle, myself, UM,

938
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, Um Crenshaw, there's like a long list of

939
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: people to the point where like guys were saying, oh,

940
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: you must be one of those Team three guys. Clenn Emerson,

941
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: Team three, Mike Ritland, Team three, several teams. Yeah, and

942
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: but we all kind of have this Team three background.

943
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just an interesting observation. UM. And

944
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: it's something I didn't really talk about before. UM. On

945
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: the subject of putting your foot in your mouth, you know,

946
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: I made kind of an insensitive comment on a on

947
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: one of software which is now news rep an article

948
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: when people were asking there was a there was a

949
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: widow in the community saying and doing this stuff, and

950
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: I made this comment about the widows, which you know,

951
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: someone grabbed the screenshot and tweeted out and all of

952
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's Brandon is against the widows of the community,

953
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: and and and try and turn that and use that

954
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: against me, which is which is total bullshit. UM. I

955
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: was hurting at the time because, UM, Glenn when he

956
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: went to Libya, UM his girlfriend at the time. UM.

957
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: We him and his friends got together and we said, look, man,

958
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: when you're deploying, like this girl's going around, she's making

959
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: out with guys. She's a complete mess. We we kind

960
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: of had this intervention with Glenn and he ended up

961
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: breaking up with this with this girl, went back to Libby.

962
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: I still have the email he sent, like, I'm so

963
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: relieved that I ended it with this with this girl. Now,

964
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: fast forward, Glenn dies. She shows up on the doorstep

965
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: at his house and everyone kind of brought her in. Yeah,

966
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: because they recognized that that there was there was a

967
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: relationship there. But all of a sudden, she's like making

968
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: up this ship in her head about how they were

969
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: engaged to be married. She's and then she goes to

970
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 1: Boston and is in the funeral. Um and then went

971
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: completely off the rails to the point where Glenn's mom

972
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: had to ask her to leave. UM. But but rewind back,

973
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: She's in this house and I'm in sleeping in Glenn's bed,

974
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: like I'm staying at the house trying to deal with

975
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: the media and the family. She crawls into bed with

976
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: me in the middle of the night, like this is

977
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: you no I know, and I'm telling this because I

978
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: just want people to know like the root of the

979
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: the kind of how how I was hurting and and

980
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: made this comment. So she gets into bed with me

981
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: and tries to sleep with me, and I leave, like

982
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: I left in the middle of the night, and when

983
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: I refused her, she started just viciously attacking me, telling me,

984
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm this, I'm that, I'm I'm a terrible parent.

985
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: Um And and she her profession was therapist, Like she

986
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: wasn't a psychologist, but she was giving therapy to other couples.

987
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this woman is a fucking does asked her

988
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: and like had multiple d wise. Um was it was

989
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: a complete like off the rails and and now we

990
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: so that situation and her like yelling at me, and

991
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: like I was, like I was hurt because I lost

992
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: Glenn and seeing like her just you know, trying to

993
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: play the victim and and kind of join up with

994
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: these other widows, um, which you know, look, I'm not

995
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: attacking the widow community, but there there are good widows

996
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: and bad widows, right, just like there are good people

997
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: and bad people. Um. But I was coming off of

998
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: that and in Boston having to deal with with her

999
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: also and like dragging and because I had refused her

1000
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: sexual advances, dragging me in to this like, um conversation

1001
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: of trying to get widows to gang up on me.

1002
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: I was piste off, man, and that's why. And I

1003
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: was hurt because I lost my best friend and it

1004
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: hurts to see this woman kind of like hijack her

1005
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: her bullshit into the family. Um. And then I just

1006
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: made this comment on on an article which you know

1007
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: got spread around the internet. Um. But that's that's where

1008
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: it comes from. So now people know. UM, And I've

1009
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: never told that story because I didn't. You know, I

1010
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: try as hard as I can to avoid the drama. UM,

1011
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: but I don't give a fuck like that, Like that's

1012
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: where it was coming from. And and uh, you know

1013
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: that woman was out there talking trash and trying to

1014
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: like stir up drama against me when really like she

1015
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: needs to look in the fucking mirror and get her

1016
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: own life together, um, as especially as a person that

1017
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: has kids herself. UM, you know, just shame on shame

1018
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: on her, um. And I've never told that story before,

1019
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: but I just wanted people to know, I mean, and

1020
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, look, you're we're all human. We all

1021
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: have moments where we say the wrong thing and we

1022
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: put our foot in our mouth and it's and it's

1023
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: how we handle that situation afterwards, and personally, like I mean,

1024
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: I've said more couple of times, like you know, I

1025
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: have a ton of respect for for the the families

1026
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: that have lost um, you know, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters,

1027
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: the widows, like the show nothing but UM for them,

1028
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: you know. And it was just me coming off of

1029
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: a very tough situation, and I you know, I said

1030
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: what could be considered to be inconsiderate comments towards towards

1031
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: the widows, and for that, I'm sorry, and I wish

1032
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: I could take it back, but I can't. But now

1033
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: at least at least people know UM kind of the

1034
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: source of that. And and that's why, you know, I

1035
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: try and give people the benefit of the doubt. UM.

1036
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: But I too, back to the Crunshaw thing and Pete Davison,

1037
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't even think the guy had enough Davidson, that is,

1038
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: had enough class to kind of come out and say, hey, look,

1039
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, I I accept I kind of crossed the

1040
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 1: line here. Um, he's having a bad month, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1041
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: but I give you know, and in funk man, you know,

1042
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: we're all human, we all we all funk up. But

1043
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: but again, Dan Crunshaw doesn't give probably two ships about

1044
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: any congressional district. I think way more more than to him.

1045
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, um, so, how how the fund do I

1046
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: transition from that to Jim Acosta or can we're talking

1047
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: about the Thousand Oaks, California shooting, which is really tragic.

1048
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what you want to get into. Um,

1049
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: I never heard that story, so it is. Yeah, I

1050
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: would like to um first just um tell people, just

1051
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: kind of give an update. We're we ended up. I

1052
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: end up meeting this creative agency when I went to

1053
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: canns Lions this this summer for this big media event. Um,

1054
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: and it's like, for one, it's a complete fucking boondoggle, right,

1055
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: Like here's iHeart Radio who declared bankruptcy. Now now I'm

1056
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: in cans Lions and it's like the biggest fucking parties

1057
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: that are being thrown there. From my heart, they threw

1058
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: a party with bon Jovi and they rented this like

1059
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: mega yacht. Did you see Bondo? Everybody? No, I didn't

1060
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Speaker 1: because I wish. I love like the classic bon Jovi stuff.

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Speaker 1: Rocks Man, but he nowadays his voice is kind of yeah,

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Speaker 1: which Andrew Wilkowner were talking about before he recorded the

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01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: same thing with Paul Stanley from Kiss. Unfortunately, some of

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Speaker 1: these guys voices yeah yeah, no. Even I was watching

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: an interesting interview with Tony Robbins and I could I

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01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: could hear his voice like, but the guy speaks all

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Speaker 1: the time, just like those guys saying. But the point is,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, why, my heart, you just declared

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Speaker 1: bankruptcy and now you're throwing this like massive parties. Um,

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Speaker 1: But which you know, I could. I could go on

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Speaker 1: and on about the point where I met some really

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Speaker 1: cool people of Cans. I met my friend Nina, who

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Speaker 1: those of you follow me on Instagram. I took me

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Speaker 1: a flying she runs. She's like a woman from Ukraine

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Speaker 1: now running Eastern Europe for Google. UM really like a

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01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: powerful UM leader and executive. I met. She hooked me

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Speaker 1: up with this guy Lad who worked for the agency

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Speaker 1: called Federa. So I went to Ukraine. They invited me

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Speaker 1: um and saw like they were doing this amazing stuff

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Um And and they're the Federa is basically

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01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: like an Ogilvie in New York. Like, look, but Ogilvy

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01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: won't even talk to us. If I walked into Ogilvy

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we want to do We want you

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Speaker 1: to kind of work with us to do some creative commercials,

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01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: and they would be like, well, like show us the money,

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Speaker 1: Like I think it's like a million bucks. You got

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Speaker 1: to spend with those guys before they will even talk

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Speaker 1: to you. So you know, I said, oh, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Ukraine and I met this agency and they said, look,

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Speaker 1: we're dying to do some really pushed the envelope and

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Speaker 1: do something creative. Um because their clients, mostly in Russia, Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: Germany are very conservative, and they said, like these markets

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Speaker 1: that we're in, if we make small improvements, if we

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Speaker 1: just like are a little bit edgy, you know, it

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Speaker 1: has a massive effect. But they're like, we were dying

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Speaker 1: to do something creative. So we we huddled up by

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Speaker 1: Flue nick Bett's Jason and myself to to Kiev and

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: met with these guys and they pitched us these ideas

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Speaker 1: which were amazing, and and right now they're making this commercial.

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Speaker 1: I was dying to be there. I'll tell people kind

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Speaker 1: of the gist of it. The one that we picked

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Speaker 1: Jason Nick and I um was basically this guy he's

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Speaker 1: like living off the land, running around the woods in

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Speaker 1: his shorts and sneakers, like chopping wood with his fucking

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Speaker 1: bare hands, you know, striking match off his beard. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then one of one of the final scenes, and

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see the finished product, he's he

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Speaker 1: walks into this wades into this fucking ice cold river,

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Speaker 1: grabs a fucking salmon out with his bare hand, grabs

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Speaker 1: another one, and then he's got two fish in his hands,

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Speaker 1: and he's like he dips his waist down and he's

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Speaker 1: looking with his eyes and he does this like hip

1113
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: thrust comes up and he's got a fish on his

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Speaker 1: cock too, and he's like, you know, holding up the fish,

1115
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, some people can live life with

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Speaker 1: their bare hands for the rest of us, this Craig Club.

1117
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Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see that commercial. Douse. It's

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01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: there's so much more to it in that, but they're

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: filming that right now. In uh in Ukraine. Um, and

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Speaker 1: they're fired up, like we can't wait to kind of

1121
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: put put that out on the internet. So be able

1122
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,959
Speaker 1: to look out for that that commercial and please share

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01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: it because it, uh, you know, it helps us get

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Speaker 1: the word out about about the Create Club and the

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Speaker 1: guys you know, working on some amazing custom products members only,

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: and we're about to launch our Create Club store, which

1127
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: you know we're you're gonna have to be a member too.

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Speaker 1: You can basically purchase a membership to shop the store

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01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: and it's all curated items. Or if you're an existing

1130
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Speaker 1: Create Club subscriber, you'll you'll be able to you already

1131
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: considered a member, so you'll be able to shop as well.

1132
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Speaker 1: So it's cool. Lots of cool stuff coming down the line. Um.

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Speaker 1: But so this Jim Acosta press conference, should I play

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: the video? I'll let people hear it. I mean, I

1135
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: feel like this audience has probably heard it. But let's

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Speaker 1: let's go from the top here, uh, the mid terms.

1137
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: That here we go that well, if you know, Mimus

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Speaker 1: president that this caravan was an invasion, as you know,

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: consider it to be as you know, as president, caravan

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: was not an invasion. It's a it's a group of

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01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: migrants moving up from Central America towards the border with

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Speaker 1: the US. And why why did you why did you

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Speaker 1: characterize it as such? Uh, because I consider an invasion.

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01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: You and I have a difference of it. But do

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: you think that you demonized immigrants this election to try

1146
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: I want them. I want them to come into the country,

1147
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: but they have to come in legally. You know, they

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: have to come in jim through a process. I wanted

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01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: to be a process and I want people to come in.

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01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: And we need the people. Your campaign, your campaign, you

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: know why would need the baby dog Because we have

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: hundreds of companies moving in. We need the people. They're

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01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: hundreds of miles away. Though they're hundreds and hundreds of

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Speaker 1: miles away. That that's not an invasion. Honestly, that's not

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01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: an invasion. Honestly, I think you should let me run

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: the country. You run CNN, and if you did it well,

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Speaker 1: if I may ask one of the questions President, that

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: ask one of the other folks, that's enough for me, ma'am,

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: that's enough this president. I had one of the persons,

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Speaker 1: if I may ask on on the Russia investigation, and

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Speaker 1: are you concerned that that you may. I'm not concerned

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: about anything you have investigation because it's a hoax. Are

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01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: you that's enough? Put down the mic? This president? Are

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01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: you worried about indictments coming down to this invest Mr President,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. CNN should be ashamed of itself

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01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: having you working for them. You are a rude, terrible person.

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01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be working for CNN. Go ahead. I think

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01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: that's on your very rude person. The way you treat

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01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: Sarah Huckabee is horrible, and the way you treat other

1170
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: people are horrible. You shouldn't treat people that way. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And Peter, in Jim's defense, I've traveled with him and

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Speaker 1: watched him. He's a diligent reporter who bustles. I'm not

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: a big fan of yours either, soundstand anyway. So here,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. There's a lot of people on the

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Speaker 1: left on Twitter saying like, wow, Jim Acosta really out

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01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: under Trump skin. That's not the way I see it

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Speaker 1: at all. I mean, there is just this, This is

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: nothing new. It's always been this way. There's a process

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Speaker 1: for these press conferences. For one, you know your it's

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Speaker 1: not your right to be a part of this press conference. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, Trump has answered tons of questions from this

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: one guy and the processes. You get your question out there.

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01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: You might not like the way Trump answered it, but

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01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: he answered your question and you move on. And that's

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: why he had a staffer go up there and take

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01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: the microphone at a certain point, and he like nudges

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Speaker 1: her out of the way, which I thought was completely

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, people were saying, well, she touched him first,

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Speaker 1: but that's kind of her job to grab the microphone

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Speaker 1: and move on. It's a press conference, it's not an

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Speaker 1: unlimited Q and a session. Yeah, I know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's the problem is that, um, I love him or

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Speaker 1: hate him, Trump has he has pointed out a lot

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Speaker 1: of the the bias that exists in the media. And

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Speaker 1: and and I'm not I'm not saying Trump is good

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Speaker 1: in that way, um, but but I can appreciate that

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01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: he did point out this bias, you know, and he's

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 1: put pointing the finger at one side when the other

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Speaker 1: fingers should be pointed right back at Fox News because

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01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: they're both doing this. No I know, but that's the

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01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: reason why, right. But but he's brought it up, and

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Speaker 1: let's let's face it, man, like The New York Times

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01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: and a lot of these other outlets were basically pushing

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Speaker 1: this bullshit narrative, including like putting up their bullshit polling

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Speaker 1: data um and trying to influence the last presidential election,

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Speaker 1: and it completely backfired on him. And because Trump just

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Speaker 1: hammered him on it, it created this environment where he's

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01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: got every media outlet except really Fox Um just trying

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Speaker 1: to just tear him up. And I you know, in hindsight,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he had if he would do

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Speaker 1: the same thing, because it's got to be it's gotta

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01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: wear on you man. And so now it's up to

1213
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Speaker 1: him though, you know, because I was thinking about this too.

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: He could drastically change these press conferences if he wants.

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: To these people who are crying like, oh he's you know,

1216
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't like free speech even though he invites them

1217
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: all here. If he wants, he could make the press

1218
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: conference Breitbart, maybe you have news rep there because we're

1219
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: gonna be fair and and have outlets that don't hate him.

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: It's not just because traditionally CNN and MSNBC you're there.

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01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they have to be there. So these

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01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: people were saying, like there's an attack on free speech.

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: It's a little ridiculous. You don't ever right to be

1224
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: a part of press conference and you don't ever right

1225
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: to ask unlimited questions. He got his question out there,

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01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: Trump answered it. And if you're going to act and

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01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: tagging in this like antagonistic way, what do you fucking

1228
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: expect Trump's gonna do? Right? Like, really, let's let's say

1229
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Speaker 1: you're you're you're at his press conference and you're antagonizing him.

1230
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: What do you expect So come on, like use some

1231
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: common fucking sense here. Um. And of course he's going

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01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: to cut you off and they're gonna take the microphone away.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, um, yeah, I don't see this as

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: because like Jim acosas tecting the free speech, like he's

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Speaker 1: part of a system. Um in CNN, Like there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of great people at CNN, UM Brooke Baldwin, UM,

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01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: Anderson Cooper. I respect a lot of what they do

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 1: and they're good people. Um, But as an organization, the media,

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: in the media like CNN, New York Times, like they've

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01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: all participated in this kind of um basically propaganda. I

1241
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: gotta ask you something then, And also in this Russia,

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01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: Russia thing is a fucking like from all I could see,

1243
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: like looking at the facts outsider looking in, it's complete bullshit. Man.

1244
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: Like I've been to Moscow, I've talked I talked to um,

1245
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Speaker 1: some of the top business owners in Moscow when I

1246
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: went to World Cup, because I remember this YPO group

1247
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: and they said, look we had we were shocked like that.

1248
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: They're they're close to the government as well, and they

1249
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: were saying Putin, this team was shocked the Trump won.

1250
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: They they had already had a strategy in place that

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: that anticipated Hillary winning the election. Um, you know the

1252
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: fact that there was some you know campaign on social

1253
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: media and Facebook to kind of influence the election. Will

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01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: I guess what the American CIA does that all all

1255
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: day long, all over the world, trying to influence elections.

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Speaker 1: It had such a minuscule effect. It wasn't this and

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't like Trump come on, Like those guys weren't like,

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01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, in some room, you know, collaborating with the

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Speaker 1: top you know, leaders of Russia to like, like I said,

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Speaker 1: Russian Putin was like completely shocked and they had to

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Speaker 1: develop this this whole new strategy to deal with the

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Speaker 1: Trump thing happening. So I think, yeah, they're they're just

1263
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: digging and trying to like you know, fan flames where

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: there really is not a whole lot in this Russia thing.

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Speaker 1: It's investigation. It's just come on, man, you don't think

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Speaker 1: that that special interest groups foreign leaders are going to

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: kind of try and get access to Washington in the

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Speaker 1: same way Saudi Arabia has kind of messled up. It

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01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: just happens all the time. So the fact that Trump

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Speaker 1: met with you know, this Russian person that was was

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Speaker 1: on person is just kind of bullshit. So so you

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Speaker 1: mentioned CNN to waste the time. Yeah, you mentioning CNN

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: and all these personalities just got me thinking, though, I

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: know that when you've been on with Don woman, you've

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01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: had a good experience. I gotta get your take though

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Speaker 1: on Don Lemon saying that the most dangerous group in

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Speaker 1: America are white males, because I know there's a you know,

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Speaker 1: rightly so a big outrage and I'm saying that. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've been on Don show. I like

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Speaker 1: Don um. I think deep down he's a good person.

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Speaker 1: And again it's something Do I agree with that statement? No,

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01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: And I would statistically, we know it's the wrong state. Yeah,

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01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: I would tell him like, look, it's I would tell

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Speaker 1: him to his face, like I think I think that

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Speaker 1: statement is is kind of bullshit. And again it's I

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01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: do of like, um, you know it's it's hard right,

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: Like we we live now today, like I talked about

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01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: with with when I went on my tangent um with

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01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: the interview with Jeffrey in April when they were in studio. UM,

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01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: a country has been pushed to extremes. And a big

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01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 1: part of that in America is that we have this

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: vanishing middle class and you're either very poor or you're

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01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: very successful. Um. And and I just think it sucks

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01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: that we got to choose sides and you get lumped

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Speaker 1: into one group or the next. And if you if

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Speaker 1: you try and have a a intelligent conversation on on

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Speaker 1: gun ownership, UM, you know, you're just like tarred and

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Speaker 1: feathered publicly. UM. It's like we should be able to

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Speaker 1: have conversations like this, um. And we shouldn't like group

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Speaker 1: people into certain categories like like nonstatement when Jack said

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Speaker 1: on the last show and I mentioned it, I mean

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01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: the rest constantly has this narrative, which I agree with.

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01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: I know you agree with Jack Greys with it. You know,

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01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: not every Muslim is a toterrorist. We need to treat

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: people's individuals. All of that is very true. But then

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: you make a statement that, you know, we need to

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01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for white males because the most

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 1: dangerous group in America and almost act like Islamic terrorism

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: doesn't exist, and it's it's just a ridiculous statement, absolutely. Um.

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Speaker 1: Last thing I wanted to mention, of course, I mean

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01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: it's not on a positive note or anything, but just

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: the fact that this Thousand Oaks, California shooting. I woke

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01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: up to the news about this of you know, college

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01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: students just going out drinking, having a good time, and

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: some maniacos in there and shoots up the place. Um.

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Speaker 1: I know, every time this happens, it becomes a discussion

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Speaker 1: on gun control. I mean, but this is California, who

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Speaker 1: is the strictest gun control you could think of. I

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01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,480
Speaker 1: don't think gun control is a part of this, you know, conversation,

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: at least for me. But it's just tragic news every time,

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: and we've we've all become really numb to it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just every fucking week, it's a new shooting. Last week,

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Speaker 1: it was a yoga studio. It's it's just getting out

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Speaker 1: of hand. Yeah, mean I need to look at the

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01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: root cause right, like I would say, nine out of

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Speaker 1: ten times these shootings, UM are by people with with UM,

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01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: you have some type of mental disorder, right so, and

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01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: that's so, how do we keep people with mental disorders

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01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: from getting your hands on guns? Um? Look there there

1330
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: should be um some rules put in place. And and

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: every time you want to talk about this again, right

1332
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: like this is this is I'm waiting into this area

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01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: where I'm people are going to be outraged and scream

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: about this amendment. Look at Manhattan, right, Manhattan is a

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: good example. It's extremely hard to to own and be

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: licensed to carry a gun in Manhattan, but you have

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: to go through this massive process in Manhattan is largely

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01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: a gun free zone. And if you are caught with

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: a firearm in this city, it's a do not past

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01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: go You're going to jail. I think it's like three

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01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: year minimum. And that's it. That creates a situation where look,

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Speaker 1: there's really not like when if we had a big

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01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: shooting in Manhattan, right, it just doesn't happen. So you know,

1344
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: you have to look at you know certain certain places

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01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: where you can put stricter rules in place, like a

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01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: theme part. I don't want to see the one that

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01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: Manhattan though, that's the one. I do love the fact

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01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: that I live on Long Island where I still at

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: least have the right to own a gun. Every year,

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01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: and people just they come up with these crazy fucking

1351
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: solutions which which don't work, like let's arm let's have

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: armed guards and schools. Guess what, I don't want my

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: kids going to school having some you know, lowly paid

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: security guard who probably fired that gun, um, you know,

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: less than fucking a handful of times, and can't hit

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01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: the fucking broadside of a barn. He's gonna start firing

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: at guys. And we have a thing as a sniper

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: that we're always concerned about called bullet path. What happens

1359
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: to the bullet when I blow through this guy's head?

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: And because that bullets going somewhere right, So now you

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: have a guy just blasting, you know, firing rounds in

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Speaker 1: the classroom. And so why even the police, which don't

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,520
Speaker 1: get as much training as they they they deserve. Um,

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01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: you see them like some guy shot, It's like they've

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 1: three policemen fired at a bad guy, you know, forty

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Speaker 1: times and they hit him like three, you know what

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean. So now in the police police have training.

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yea, they're hitting innocent people. So I want like

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: a guy running around the school freaking firing and hitting kids,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he's not he doesn't he has not

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Speaker 1: trained well enough to know what bullet path is and

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Speaker 1: um have a basic understanding of ballistics. Uh and the

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: fact that you know, bullets passed through a lot of things. Um.

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01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: The other when, a very good solution would be put

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01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: a dog in the school. Train a dog that if

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: somebody pulls a gun, that fucking dog is gonna go berserk.

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: We use dogs in the military overseas and these dogs

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01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: I've seen, they're they're getting shot three or four times

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01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: and they're still coming at you like that's and they'll

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: they'll protect that that student boddie like a pack like

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01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: they're gonna like the dog is a great solution. Put

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: a dog and a dog handler in the school. Um

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01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: and guess what, like we're not gonna end up in

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: a situation like I think it was Florida where that

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: cop just waited, he didn't go in, Yeah, and they

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01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: he got fired right. Um, you know you let that

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01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: dog loose. Man, that dog is going to go just

1388
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: grab that fucking like, bite the ship out of that Chris.

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Speaker 1: California shooting though, I just don't think. I mean California

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Speaker 1: much like Chicago. You know that they have strict gun

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01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: walls in place, and it's not stopping the worst gun

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01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: vines in the world. And that's a gun free zone.

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01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, more people shot and killed and I think

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01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: in in Chicago than we lost in the entire Gulf War,

1395
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 1: like the Second Iraq. I just think the mental health

1396
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: issue and the psychotropic drug industry is the bigger conversation

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01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: at least in my opinion than the gun issue. Uh.

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01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: And but people love to tear down the n r A.

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: But you know the drug Bobby is pretty fun powerful. Yeah,

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01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean the drug The n r A is a

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: powerful group. Um. Look, I I tried to take on

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: I tried to basically point out somethings at the n RRA,

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01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: and they stood up like Facebook pages called me a

1404
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: Canadian socialist. Um. It was crazy. Um, but you know

1405
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: that the thing is we should be able to have

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01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: an intelligent conversation on the gun issue without people banging

1407
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: their fucking fists on the table, screaming at one group

1408
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: or another, like let's sit down and have a conversation

1409
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: about what how do we respect this culture of firearms

1410
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: in America? UM, and and respect the heritage when you know,

1411
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: a father wants to take a son or daughter hunting

1412
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: in Texas, um deer hunting and they they basically are

1413
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, eating venison, which is I love venison, is

1414
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: amazing lean meat. But like, I respect this culture and

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01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: heritage in America without you know, saying, oh, we're gonna

1416
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: take all the guns away. But there's got to be

1417
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: it's there's got to be a solution, right, and the

1418
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 1: problem that exists there they're an environment for that conversation

1419
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. And the n ARRAY also has some partial

1420
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,839
Speaker 1: blame because they don't allow that conversation to happen because

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01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: it's just like it's like a stalemate, right like we're

1422
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: not talking, we're not giving up ship, we're not going

1423
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 1: to talk about anything because the other side feels the

1424
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: same way, and they're like we're gonna take them all,

1425
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: take all the guns away, which is before, which is

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01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: completely ridiculous. UM. And so like why can't we have

1427
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: good intelligent conversations and debate over issues like this. Um.

1428
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: It's it's a sad state that we're in America right

1429
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: now and can't have that conversation. Um, just like I can't,

1430
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: I have to all my opinions express publicly have to

1431
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: fit in either a liberal bucket or a conservative bucket,

1432
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: which we talked about with with Jeffrey Naples as well,

1433
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: especially as a like I'm a registered independent, I'm not

1434
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: a Republican, I'm not a Democrat. Um, but you're Puerto

1435
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: Rican resident, yeah, which is another the reason Puerto Rico

1436
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have an electoral vote, so they can't vote in

1437
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: the in the primary. The reason I'm a Republican is

1438
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: just because the closed primary New York. I want to

1439
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: be able to vote in that primary. You know, you're

1440
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: basically if you're not registered either party in New York,

1441
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: you're kind of silencing yourself, you know, because then it's

1442
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: just you. If you want to be able to vote

1443
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 1: for anyone in those presidential primaries, registered with a party,

1444
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: it kind of side should be an open primary. But

1445
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: I didn't make the law, so Um. But anyway, I'm glad.

1446
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: It's nice to hop back on software prading. I'm gonna

1447
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and get back on on the show

1448
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And the listener base is bigger

1449
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: than it's ever been, which is awesome. Yeah. We I

1450
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: mean the show is almost six years old. We love

1451
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: the show. We love the fans. Um. You know, I've

1452
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: met some amazing people through the show, like my friend

1453
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: Brent Burns plays for the Sharks, Who's a one of

1454
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,480
Speaker 1: the greatest people I know, huge love for the military,

1455
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: always taking care of military military families, you know, whether

1456
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: that's tickets or him buying you know, a whole section. Um,

1457
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: just a great guy, great human being. Um, Jason Ralph

1458
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: and breaking Benjamin. Yeah, who's coming to our big, big

1459
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: holiday bashion in New York this December. He just sent

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01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: me a message on Instagram. Um, so it's it's just

1461
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: a great show. And and um, you know, we've come

1462
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: a long way, and you know, we're just gonna keep

1463
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: having kick ass guests on the on the show. And

1464
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate getting back on And every time I come

1465
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: on the show, I forget right. I get people reach

1466
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: out on social media like, oh man, it's here. I

1467
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: mean I used to do this show. I don't know

1468
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: how many years in a row. Like Jack and I

1469
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: were just doing it every every week. UM. The problem is,

1470
01:21:54,320 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, as I kind of evolved in the company's grown, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just take on more responsibility and it

1472
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: just comes down to there's only so many hours in

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Speaker 1: the day. UM. But anyway, I hope to be back.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're back on soon. UM and and Ian

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01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: and I are picking up the Power of Thought podcast again. UM,

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01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna do another run. Uh. This series will be

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Speaker 1: focused on Freedom is the New Rich, which is my

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: new book I'm working on. I will have people on

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: to talk about how the global economy has changed and

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01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: become an environment. Where America used to be the best

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01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: place to start a company. I would argue it's one

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01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: of It's a good place, but not the only place now.

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: I just through my travels the last three or four

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Speaker 1: years all over the world seeing these um people that

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Speaker 1: at all ages, UM, all shapes and sizes, running either

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01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: running these large businesses abroad on their laptops or their

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01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 1: freelancers make you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars a

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Speaker 1: year freelancing, traveling all over the world, living life on

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Speaker 1: their own terms, and I just think it's an interesting

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01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: thing to talk about and then also want to get

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Speaker 1: into some of the tools and practices if people are

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Speaker 1: interested in making a career change, they want to get

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Speaker 1: out of the nine to five um. Which is one

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Speaker 1: thing I love about Hurricane Media as a company, Like

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Speaker 1: we've created a work environment that lets people, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: you you've got to do your work, and you've gotta

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Speaker 1: you've gotta provide value. But for all intensive purposes, Like

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Speaker 1: we really have this like freedom at Hurricane Like you know,

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Speaker 1: to you, like, hey, did you dude, I'm I'm taking

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Speaker 1: a vacation and we go here. I want to go there, dude,

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01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: knock yourself out as long as we're covered. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, And so that's what I love about this

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Speaker 1: company that we've created an environment where people have the

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Speaker 1: freedom to take their kids to the doctor when they're sick,

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: they can drop or they're doing to go see a

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01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: school play. They can take a vacation, they can go um.

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01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 1: I remember Nick was like, you know, Nick and Iron

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01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: was talking. He was almost apologetic for taking this trip

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: to Greece. I'm like, dude, don't ever apologize for taking

1510
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 1: a vacation. Um, that's Nick Betts. Yeah, Nick Betts um

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: and that you know. And so the show is about

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01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: showing people examples and giving them tools to potentially make

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01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: a change in their own life. So if you're frustrated

1514
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: in your career, you know, no matter what you're doing,

1515
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: and you want to potentially make a change, this show

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01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: is going to basically help you to help you do that.

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01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 1: It's also easier than ever now. I feel like, um,

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01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, I know with me so many people. Oh

1519
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: you're so lucky that you work in radio, so lucky,

1520
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: and you get that all the time. But now anybody

1521
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 1: could start a podcast if you have the right guests on.

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01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: You know, you do a good job building it up.

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01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: You want to be a YouTuber, there's no college for that.

1524
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: You can do it all in your own I mean

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: right now. On the side travel, I see these people

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Speaker 1: on d Stagram. They're basically having these amazing like a

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Speaker 1: vacation for life because they're they have grown a big

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01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: following their featuring and showing these like incredible travel destinations.

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Speaker 1: And then they get invited to another destination for free. Um,

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: and then they're monetizing their Instagram by getting doing paid posts. Um.

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Speaker 1: So there's like so many os all different ways. And

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Speaker 1: I think I've told you I'm doing audio books now

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01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: on the side. And you know, there's a site for

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Speaker 1: if you want to narrate an audio book that's on

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01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: Amazon that you could just do it. And I think

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01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people are just it's you talk about

1537
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: all the time, just scared to pull the trigger and

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Speaker 1: do it. I didn't have to go to college to

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01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: narrate audiobooks. I mean, I am a college graduate. But

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of opportunity out

1541
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: there that if you're just willing to keep auditioning, keep

1542
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: doing your thing, you can make something happen. So tune

1543
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 1: into power of Thought and look beyond the lookout for

1544
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: I gotta work it out with the end, but they'll

1545
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: probably start get that started that freedom is freedom, Power

1546
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: of thought. Freedom is the new rich. Because that's going

1547
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 1: to be a series ease covering the next book I'm writing,

1548
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: which basically is a it's a playbook or handbook on

1549
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: how to live the life you want to live anywhere

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01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: in the world. Um, And we're gonna talk about all

1551
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: sorts of different businesses. Um that you can own and

1552
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: run UM at home from your computer anywhere with the

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01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: Internet connection. So yeah, I'm excited about that show. Um.

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01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: Probably gonna get some amazing guests from all like I

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01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: did from you know, on Power Thought, from all sorts

1556
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: of different backgrounds, from CJ. Ramono, Scott Kelly the Astronaut

1557
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 1: to John King from Chunking Studios like this, these amazing people. Um,

1558
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: but now it's never been a better time to start

1559
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: a business and take back your freedom. Uh. And so

1560
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: that's what the show is going to be about. So

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01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: make sure you guys tune into to that and then

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Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram at Brandon t Web. I like

1563
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: this summer. I took it on myself. I said, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna use like, I'm gonna go all

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01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: in on Instagram and I'm gonna answer every message, you know,

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Speaker 1: besides the crazy ship. But dude, I don't have one

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01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: empty d M in my inbox right now. I answer everything,

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01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: and I get a lot of questions this and that. Um,

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01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, even that book that I walked in the

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01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: studio this morning that was from Instagram. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll sign it, but which I have no problem doing.

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01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: Just please give return postage. Yeah, there's nothing worse than

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01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: a book showing up with no return address and a

1574
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: nice note says, please sign my book. I'm like, okay,

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01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: where am I sending this thing? And and and then

1576
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: I gotta go like, can you can email the show

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01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: if you want the address? Dot radio it, soft rep

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01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: dot com. I'll sign as many books to my hands bleed.

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01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: But return postage, like, put the return posters in there

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: so I can sign it to you, drop it in

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01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: the envelope and have my assistant mail it off right away.

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: But when that doesn't exist, it's like, come on, man,

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01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Like I gotta go like like figure out and expens

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Speaker 1: pay for this. Yeah, I mean I remember one time

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Speaker 1: I was like it got to be crazy, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'll just do it. And it was

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Speaker 1: like thousands of dollars in shipping, and look, I would

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Speaker 1: no offense. I would rather put that money in my

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01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: kids college fund because such my oldest son, um Hunters

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01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: is probably going to get into an Ivy League school,

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Speaker 1: um so, and I gotta pay for it. So I'd

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01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: rather put the money into his education and pay for

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01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: um pay for you fuckers send me st Then I

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01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: have to pay for the shipping. Come on, like, help

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01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: help me out here. Well, this has been awesome. Always

1596
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 1: good doing the show with you. I mean, it's it's

1597
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: been a while, but I appreciate you coming in. Man.

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01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: I think and I think this is just a killer guest.

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01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: It's so cool that we have people on from all

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01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: walks of life. I mean, Jeffrey Wright is the guy

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01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: has won two. If you guys listening don't know who

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01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: Jeffrey right is, he is one of the main characters

1603
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: in Westworld. Um, he's basically Anthony hopkins right hand guy

1604
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: in West World, which which he discovered he was actually

1605
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: on this character on the show, discovered he was an

1606
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: AI like basically one of the one of the advanced um,

1607
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want to call him, artificial in

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01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: official intelligence like being. But that show is amazing. I

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01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 1: watched West I crushed west World probably in like three weekends.

1610
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: But and then beyond that, Casino Royal, Brewalk Empire, the

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Speaker 1: Hunger Games. He was the star of Boss Sciot you know,

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01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: the film on on the Great New York based artists

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01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: who you know died on way before his time, but

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01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: great human being too. You could tell that, so check

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Speaker 1: him out at J free Right J F R E

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Speaker 1: E W R I G h T on Twitter, on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get this up as soon as

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Speaker 1: possible because we are not done yet as premiering tonight

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01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 1: as we're as we're taping this uh so on HBO.

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01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: But if you have HBO on demand all that stuff,

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01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: you can watch it. It's great and it's it's not

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01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: long either. It's forty minute documentary and you're gonna be

1623
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: blown away by some of these stories, just like I'm

1624
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: sure hearing April on this podcast, but she goes a

1625
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: lot more in depth. So thanks again for checking us

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01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: out twice every week. We've been killing it, doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of great shows. Love doing the last show with

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01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: wilcoun Studio, and uh we've been having bad luck where

1629
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: if I say who the next guest is, we end

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01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: up rescheduling. So unless that happens, Todd TODDA. Pulski is

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01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: back on the next show because you guys loved him

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01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Army Spec Ops guy plus the former Marine, so it's

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01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 1: cool getting him on and a lot of great stuff

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01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 1: lined up for the rest of this month. Yeah, thanks

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01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: for the support everyone, and uh I won't be on

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01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: comforts thank skiming with, but have a great Thanksgiving. You've

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01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: been listening to Self Rep Radio. New episodes up every

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01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday. Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter

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Speaker 1: at self Rep Radio