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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Week of False Hope. If you're an
Speaker 2: NFL fan, you can have all the hope you want.
Speaker 2: And for some of you fan bases, some of you fans,
Speaker 2: you know it's false hope. You just don't want somebody
Speaker 2: telling you it's false hope. As I found out in
Speaker 2: the first hour with Browns fans and Saints fans, how
Speaker 2: dare you tell us our team is going to be bad?
Speaker 2: Only we can say our team is going to be bad?
Speaker 2: But you know, reality sets in and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you go, all right, we are who we
Speaker 2: thought we were. Thursday night, NFL season kicks off the
Speaker 2: rivalry the Eagles the Cowboys. The line is now up
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Speaker 2: join us coming up momentarily. Good morning. If you are
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Speaker 2: couple more phone calls this final hour come up with
Speaker 2: a new poll question as well, and could the LA
Speaker 2: Clippers be in trouble with the NBA circumventing the salary cap,
Speaker 2: maybe paying Kawhi Leonard money off the books. Pablo Torre
Speaker 2: has an expose, and we'll talk to Pablo. He'll join
Speaker 2: us in about twenty five minutes from now. He is
Speaker 2: the playmaker. He's IRV, three time Super Bowl champion, he
Speaker 2: is a Hall of Shamer, and he is a proud
Speaker 2: member of the You he was on the sidelines, Mike,
Speaker 2: you were more excited than the players during that Notre
Speaker 2: Dame game.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about that, DP because I certainly
Speaker 3: certainly didn't put in the work that they put in.
Speaker 3: But then listen, I know, I know I'm approaching you know,
Speaker 3: sixty years old. Those are young men playing, just having fun.
Speaker 3: Is my job to let them note, these are the
Speaker 3: greatest times of your life. Yeah, don't let these slip away.
Speaker 3: You're writing your history and go right. Well, so you
Speaker 3: could be.
Speaker 4: An old man like me and remin this well later,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But it was it's so great to be out there
Speaker 3: with those guys then and be able to feel like
Speaker 3: you're part of something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: They look at me, they said, oh, we love it
Speaker 4: with you here, man, and.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just yeah, that does things for me, man,
Speaker 3: so so I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: What was it like to watch the Cowboy documentary when
Speaker 2: you're reopening a scrap book there?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that was It was easy for me because
Speaker 3: it was my life. I walked out and I lived
Speaker 3: on it. I lived in my head with it all
Speaker 3: the time anyway, you know. And and then it was
Speaker 3: time to really open up and share about a lot
Speaker 3: of things. The world has moved forward and changed, and
Speaker 3: now you can use your history to try to help
Speaker 3: somebody have got a destiny if you can, if you
Speaker 3: open up and share. So that's what I thought it
Speaker 3: was time to do. And in the documentary, and and
Speaker 3: I thought they did a great job. I thought they
Speaker 3: did a great job in shooting it and allowing people
Speaker 3: to share and try to straighten out some of the
Speaker 3: stories you know that always get greater later and turning
Speaker 3: their lives.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the one story that you wanted to correct?
Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't want to say I want to correct,
Speaker 3: but like you're you're not a guy that's over that.
Speaker 3: Boys would be boys books walking around like like I
Speaker 3: tripped a pair of suitters that just walked up and
Speaker 3: stabbed Everett mcgiver in the naked stuff like that, even
Speaker 3: though it was all wrong.
Speaker 4: But that's not what happened. You know.
Speaker 3: We we were we weren't getting hairt haircut and everything.
Speaker 4: And actually I was getting my ass kicked, you.
Speaker 5: See what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was really get my ass kicking, and in order
Speaker 3: to try to defend myself, I did something stupid, you know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But and we were out drinking, and
Speaker 3: we were out drinking before that. We were all and
Speaker 3: I was what I was doing was reving the line
Speaker 3: in the young lineman, just like I did with Big E,
Speaker 3: just like we did with Larry Allen, to make sure
Speaker 3: they're ready with his time.
Speaker 4: He was the new guy coming in.
Speaker 3: We were like, come on, new guy, you're the new guy,
Speaker 3: you know, things like that. And we had already asked
Speaker 3: some drinks frire to that, I think, And then Big
Speaker 3: E was messing with him, telling me, come on, now,
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna let that little say something you like that,
Speaker 3: right every.
Speaker 4: And then he came in. Yeah he was whooping by
Speaker 4: butt there right for him.
Speaker 2: All wait, so then you grab the scissors.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't
Speaker 3: have done that. And I thank him today though, Rich.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna call you Rich because I'm so
Speaker 3: used to you and Rich together DP. I thank him
Speaker 3: today for the way he handled that. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: I was trying to I talked to Big E. We can't.
Speaker 4: I was looking for his number.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to reach out to him again, because
Speaker 3: when you see the documentary, it makes you think and
Speaker 3: really relive all of it, and and you think about
Speaker 3: how important that moment was and the way he handled
Speaker 3: it for me and to still be at this moment
Speaker 3: at end of my life. So it makes you want
Speaker 3: to reach out and just just tell him thank you again.
Speaker 2: Are the Cowboys better this week than last week?
Speaker 4: I can't say that, And that's why do you.
Speaker 2: Think Jerry feels that way?
Speaker 4: That's that's it. I say, I can't say that, and
Speaker 4: that's a hurting question.
Speaker 3: And and then you ask that question, and I'm giving
Speaker 3: you because he's a hurt.
Speaker 4: Hurt, because he's hurting, that's the answer. You know.
Speaker 3: I know when I saw this, I felt his pain
Speaker 3: in that press conference. I know the relationship he wanted
Speaker 3: with Michael. I certainly know the relationship Michael wanted with Jerry.
Speaker 3: When I did that draft, I was at that draft,
Speaker 3: I was by spot. Michael came up to me and said,
Speaker 3: I'm going to do I'm gonna do just what you're doing.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be just don't do this, he said this.
Speaker 3: And then you'll see after the Cowboys actually draft him,
Speaker 3: we were in the back yelling. Liked he wanted to
Speaker 3: play for the Cowboys, who wanted to do win championships,
Speaker 3: and he wanted to be doing TV just like me.
Speaker 4: This is what he said to me day one of
Speaker 4: the draft.
Speaker 3: Now I know, I know, and he wanted a life
Speaker 3: after football and in this business. And what do you
Speaker 3: think that podcast would have been? He was building one
Speaker 3: hundred million dollar podcasts as long as he was playing
Speaker 3: for the Dallas Cowboys. It's no longer that anymore. So,
Speaker 3: so I know, you got a good deal, which really
Speaker 3: comes out to be five years, forty two million a year,
Speaker 3: but a great deal, a great deal, and and he
Speaker 3: got the money. But I still say it's a failure,
Speaker 3: certainly for the Cowboys, but but I.
Speaker 4: Think for him also.
Speaker 3: And then you did like like what your boy said,
Speaker 3: better for his agent than what's best for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you it feels like he still is a
Speaker 2: cowboy in his mind, like he wanted to be a cowboy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and and and the agent who does
Speaker 3: a great job came on went on Our Boys show yesterday,
Speaker 3: Steven and he said, he said.
Speaker 4: Michael wanted to be a Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 3: That your next statement is nothing boyd to me, everything
Speaker 3: else is nothing board because your job.
Speaker 4: You blew your job.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear you tell me I got
Speaker 3: I raised the number about five million dollars.
Speaker 4: That's new money, new year.
Speaker 3: That's future value, not present value, because we're starting right here,
Speaker 3: even though it's only a year later.
Speaker 4: But then it's five You did.
Speaker 3: For forty two million, where you could have worked out
Speaker 3: a deal where Michael is taking home more money. You
Speaker 3: have worked out of there, and he should have put
Speaker 3: the egos aside and got that deal worked out. The
Speaker 3: number one thing he said was Michael wanted to be
Speaker 3: a Dallas cowboy. That's your job to go get the
Speaker 3: most money from the Dallas cowboys. That was your job
Speaker 3: and they failed.
Speaker 2: At Yeah, I understand what you're saying. And it felt
Speaker 2: like Jerry, his feelings are hurt, and you're not going
Speaker 2: to talk to me that way. I get deals done.
Speaker 2: I've made deals all my life. That's how I got here.
Speaker 2: Who are you to tell me to stick that contract
Speaker 2: you know up my rear end?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But also but also but also, oh so I understand that,
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 4: I don't care how Jerry reacts. It is how you
Speaker 4: reacts to Jerry's reaction.
Speaker 3: And with steven aasked, he said, do you try to
Speaker 3: send a contract? He said, I told him yeah, he said,
Speaker 3: he said yes, he said yes, he said, I said
Speaker 3: to Adam, if you guys think I'm going to rubber stampy,
Speaker 3: don't that that shouldn't even come out of the mouth.
Speaker 3: Send a contract, go it over, red line in the
Speaker 3: contract what you did not like, Put your numbers in
Speaker 3: and send it back.
Speaker 4: You are in for a negotiation. I mean Jerry may
Speaker 4: have said.
Speaker 3: Well, he said, shove it up here, but he said
Speaker 3: he never said that I can buy that. But then
Speaker 3: on the other end, I must extrapolate from him that
Speaker 3: there's no way.
Speaker 4: He just said.
Speaker 3: I told him I'm not going rather stamping. If you
Speaker 3: guys were already in the heated moment. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should have taken that contract and negotiate it. That's
Speaker 3: my thought. That's my thought. I got my opinion, you know,
Speaker 3: and if if Michael's and everybody happy, then I'm okay
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 4: But I just thought he wanted to be here.
Speaker 2: Michael Irvin, Hall of Famer, three times super Bowl champ.
Speaker 2: Hell's Dion doing.
Speaker 3: You know how Dion is doing? Yondon had a game
Speaker 3: he could have won the other night. He had that
Speaker 3: game that was a big game.
Speaker 2: So wise health wise.
Speaker 3: Health wise, he's great. Health Wise, he's great. Health wise,
Speaker 3: He's in the best place he could be. That's right
Speaker 3: back on the sideline with his guy. I told you Dan,
Speaker 3: when I went to see him and he was really
Speaker 3: at his lowest. All he talked about to me, which
Speaker 3: was amazing, was you know, I haven't seen my players.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen my players. And I told him it
Speaker 3: reminded me, well, my dad was very sick and went
Speaker 3: to the doctor and and all he was thinking about
Speaker 3: was his family. You know, it tells you the power
Speaker 3: and how powerful that kind of man is is that,
Speaker 3: you know, so so yeah, you know he feels it
Speaker 3: was like that, thinking only about his players. When he
Speaker 3: was at his lords and now his players are probably
Speaker 3: feeling low. Yeah, you know how he feels right now,
Speaker 3: But health wise he's healthy.
Speaker 2: If I told you that you could pick, he had
Speaker 2: to pick Miami Hurricanes win the National title or the
Speaker 2: Cowboys win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I would take.
Speaker 3: I would take the team that have already won a
Speaker 3: championship with. You know, whatever team I've already won a
Speaker 3: championship with that, that's the team I picked.
Speaker 2: Picked the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: I want a championship, and both teams that there.
Speaker 2: Don't try to don't try to come.
Speaker 3: That did That ain't the first time. One time Miami,
Speaker 3: a team from Florida came up here to play a
Speaker 3: team in Texas. You know, in high school football. I
Speaker 3: was on the sideline. They were trying to pin me
Speaker 3: what state you're going for?
Speaker 4: The state I want a championship?
Speaker 2: That would you know, how do the Eagles not go
Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: Man? I mean, first of all, they have a great team.
Speaker 3: They have a great team, and it's going to take
Speaker 3: someone to go take it because they won't give it.
Speaker 4: Because he's a great leader in Jalen hurts Man, the
Speaker 4: way he.
Speaker 3: Just go about his business, and the best thing, the
Speaker 3: best thing happened to that team. And I'm not talking
Speaker 3: about for his ability to run the football. I'm talking
Speaker 3: about for his ability to run himself his way, his personality.
Speaker 3: Was Saquon Barkley coming over and showing that kind of
Speaker 3: leadership to the A. J. Browns and the Avante Smiths
Speaker 3: that it ain't about us individually, it's about us collectively.
Speaker 4: And now, yeah, now they're dangerous.
Speaker 3: They are the favorites, and you gotta go take it
Speaker 3: from them. The only way they lose it is if
Speaker 3: they lose that glue. That glue is Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 2: How often you talk to Troy?
Speaker 4: I told him Truck quite a bit. I saw him
Speaker 4: the last couple couple weeks.
Speaker 3: With a couple of things we were doing together, like
Speaker 3: you know, of course I had them on my podcast
Speaker 3: and on a YouTube channel, and then we had we
Speaker 3: went to Jimmy's retirement party, you know, I mean, we
Speaker 3: selected in Jimmy's retirement party from Fox. So so yeah,
Speaker 3: we get out, we get around and get to talk,
Speaker 3: but we all do. And and also, you know, Dann,
Speaker 3: that's the great thing. We're still all best boys and
Speaker 3: still hanging around and still talking football and get to
Speaker 3: talk about what's going on now with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: But Troy didn't socialize you with you back in the
Speaker 2: day with the cowboys.
Speaker 3: He no, Dan, that's a nice question we have asking
Speaker 3: because I appreciate your respects for Troy.
Speaker 4: An. You know, Troy never came to the White House.
Speaker 4: Did That's what you tried to get to.
Speaker 2: Well, wasn't Troy dating Sandra Buller back then?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 4: Troy never did?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Everybody?
Speaker 3: Troy was one of them rare rares by Hey I
Speaker 3: took They'll tell you Troy. Hey, Troy came home and
Speaker 3: makking people in his house. He called the police. That's
Speaker 3: what Troy does. He was the right kind of guy.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, but wasn't he Wasn't he dating
Speaker 2: Sandra Bullock at one point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't. I don't remember it if it
Speaker 3: was sad a bullet, but you know, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: I didn't do that thing on Instagram or something on
Speaker 3: the social media where he said the women you did, right,
Speaker 3: he's the quarterback, was a cowboy. But you know truck
Speaker 3: with youll blonde hair, blue eyes, and boy, that's shot.
Speaker 6: You know, I won't need that at all.
Speaker 4: Try to get me in trouble there, but.
Speaker 2: You know you get you got yourself in trouble. I'm not.
Speaker 4: It's okay now, I don't really got a job right now,
Speaker 4: give me it's all good.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to your great to talk to him.
Speaker 4: I missed you too, DP, I missed you too.
Speaker 3: Man. I'm glad to see you're doing well still, my brother.
Speaker 3: You just keep pounding away.
Speaker 4: Thank you, man, God bless you.
Speaker 2: Michael Irvin won a national championship at the U in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. Wasn't he the eleventh overall pick? Just
Speaker 2: like Michael Parsons? Does that sound right? Is both the
Speaker 2: eleventh overall pick? Is Mike still there? Mike?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Were you you the eleventh?
Speaker 4: Left? I was eleven?
Speaker 3: I think what Mike did? Mike Quesson got fourteenth? Some
Speaker 3: wasn't no, he wore eleven.
Speaker 2: He wore eleven.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think because he dropped in his draft
Speaker 3: or something, and and and I told him, you don't
Speaker 3: drop to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: You are placed to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: God, God, s now you know now this has happened.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have left that placement. But that's what I.
Speaker 2: Told thank you, Mike, thank you. Marv Ware was Michael
Speaker 2: Parsons overall? Twelfth?
Speaker 5: Overall?
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought they were both the eleventh. All right?
Speaker 2: Are the LA Clippers in trouble? It certainly sounds like
Speaker 2: they've got some questions to answer. I think they're in trouble.
Speaker 2: The question is how much trouble. Pablo Torre has a well,
Speaker 2: he's got an explosive story investigation into Steve Balmer and
Speaker 2: circumventing the salary cap and maybe paying Kawhi Leonard off
Speaker 2: the books. Pablo joins us next Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: I come in today and I see the LA Clippers
Speaker 2: are trending, and I go, what first week is September?
Speaker 2: What James Harden shaved his beard? And I don't think
Speaker 2: that's why they're trending. And then I realize they're trending
Speaker 2: for batter reason. Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds out podcasts,
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Speaker 2: all right, summarize your report on the Clippers. Steve Balmer
Speaker 2: and Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 8: Hello, Dan, we got to stop meeting like this. As always,
Speaker 8: it's always something when we get together. You may recall
Speaker 8: t nineteen, the NBA investigated the signing of Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 8: by the Clippers. This was the Uncle Dennis story, him
Speaker 8: asking for all the sweeteners, the side deals. This was
Speaker 8: the Lakers, the raptors, very mad, lots of teams, very mad.
Speaker 8: NBA investigates says this is a cardinal sin. Salary caps
Speaker 8: are convention, but they find nothing. Today we have given
Speaker 8: something I dare say to anybody who cares about this stuff,
Speaker 8: and the stuff here is kind of wild. This is
Speaker 8: a story that started because of a company called Aspiration,
Speaker 8: which no one really remembers in fairness, but they had
Speaker 8: signed some of the most famous people in the world
Speaker 8: to be endorsers. Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, Robert Downey Junior, Cindy Crawford,
Speaker 8: Cindy Crawford's daughter, all people who endorsed this climate change
Speaker 8: company that planted trees to zero out your carbon footprint,
Speaker 8: like good guys, only for those same good guys to
Speaker 8: have since been embroiled in what has been a concurrent
Speaker 8: Department of Justice and SEC investigations that have resulted in
Speaker 8: guilty please by one of the co founders of the company,
Speaker 8: a prominent Democratic politician and donor named Joe Sandberg, who
Speaker 8: happens to have also been a buddy of Steve Bomber
Speaker 8: and Steve Bomber. In this story, we establish and report,
Speaker 8: using over three thousand documents and seven sources from inside
Speaker 8: the company, put in fifty million dollars of his own
Speaker 8: money into Aspiration. Very long lined up. I apologize for
Speaker 8: taking so long. Here's the punchline. The endorsement deal that
Speaker 8: was the biggest that Aspiration signed given all those A
Speaker 8: List avengers, happened to be Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars,
Speaker 8: more than four times the rest of the celebrity roster combined.
Speaker 2: And the kicker, you.
Speaker 8: Might argue, is that he didn't do anything. It was
Speaker 8: a no show job, did nothing, wasn't obligated to do anything,
Speaker 8: which you can explain if you want, but the point being,
Speaker 8: it was a secret deal that no one knew about
Speaker 8: until now.
Speaker 2: NBA have anything to say.
Speaker 8: Yet, not yet, not yet, I should say, Steve Bomber
Speaker 8: and the Clippers. When we asked them for comment, they
Speaker 8: said that this was provably false, that they denied it.
Speaker 8: They did not know at the time that we had
Speaker 8: over three thousand pages of documents and seven sources. I
Speaker 8: look forward to improving the falsehoods that they allege. I
Speaker 8: can tell you though, from the NBA perspective, what I've
Speaker 8: been told this morning is that it's been a bit
Speaker 8: of panic over there. I'm told that they did not
Speaker 8: know about this deal between Steve Bomber, or at the
Speaker 8: very least between Aspiration and Kawhi Leonard. With the influence
Speaker 8: of Steve Bomber, according to our reporting, being the driving
Speaker 8: force of it. So yeah, it's going to get a
Speaker 8: little messy.
Speaker 4: Dan over there, I.
Speaker 2: Think what rule did the Clippers break?
Speaker 8: So salary caps or convention is something that the NBA
Speaker 8: has decided to in previous statements state very seriously. So
Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard has only signed max contracts. So the first
Speaker 8: one coming off of Toronto, the extension in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 8: Is what lines up with the timeline here that we
Speaker 8: are explaining the twenty eight million dollars above and beyond
Speaker 8: the max deal he signed. He signed another extension just
Speaker 8: last year. And so the thing here is, and this
Speaker 8: is I think a bit of the character study. Steve
Speaker 8: Bomber is the richest owner in all of sports in
Speaker 8: the world. He's the sixth richest man on the planet.
Speaker 8: And so if you know anything about how the Clippers
Speaker 8: have operated, right the Intuit Dome a building, as he says,
Speaker 8: built in his own image for hardcore basketball fans like him,
Speaker 8: using personal private money, no taxpayer funds. He is a
Speaker 8: guy who's expanded his front office, hired a zillion people.
Speaker 8: Because that is uncapped, he can spend all of the
Speaker 8: money on that. But the most important thing this hardcore
Speaker 8: basketball fan needed, of course, taking over the team from
Speaker 8: noted bad guy Donald Sterling is a franchise superstar. And
Speaker 8: so the rule alleged to have been broken here is
Speaker 8: that cardinal rule. You gotta stay within the salary cap
Speaker 8: for your actual players. And seven sources say that was
Speaker 8: deliberately what was not done.
Speaker 2: But was there a way that they could They could
Speaker 2: argue that Kawhi Leonard did represent the company. He was
Speaker 2: a name that was attached Like, I'm just looking at
Speaker 2: if I'm the Clippers, how do I get deniability?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard because typically, you know, there's
Speaker 8: this funny phrase in courtrooms. You hear like, you know,
Speaker 8: the absence of evidence is not evidence. Well, in this case,
Speaker 8: he was endorsing a company, and the absence of evidence
Speaker 8: is the absence of any endorsement, no tweets, no retweets,
Speaker 8: no favorites, no likes, no appearances, no nothing according to
Speaker 8: the Internet. According to the sources, we have nothing. And
Speaker 8: so the absence of evidence happens to be in this
Speaker 8: very narrow but meaningful way, the evidence. And they might say, well,
Speaker 8: Steve Bomber didn't know about this. But here is where
Speaker 8: I think all of this becomes a bit of an
Speaker 8: IQ test, because what I haven't mentioned that we get
Speaker 8: to in the story is that Aspiration was not merely
Speaker 8: some random company. Aspiration on media day of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 8: and you can go to the press conference footage and
Speaker 8: find it, they are announced as this founding sponsor of
Speaker 8: the Los Angeles Clippers. They are signage everywhere. Back of
Speaker 8: your court side seat, says Aspiration Dan. They were going
Speaker 8: to get the Jersey Patch. The company collapsed into ruin
Speaker 8: and disgrace before they got there, but that was the agreement.
Speaker 8: It was announced. They are headlines everywhere you can find them.
Speaker 8: You can see the video Steve Bomber right next to
Speaker 8: the guy who pled guilty to two counts of wire
Speaker 8: fraud just two weeks ago. So you can say, we
Speaker 8: didn't know about this, But then the IQ test is
Speaker 8: and this is another bit of reporting. Then why And
Speaker 8: this is according to the sources who are on tape,
Speaker 8: the one source we have who agreed to go on
Speaker 8: tape with voice modulation because of the federal investigations that
Speaker 8: are ongoing and concurrent in the experience. Uncle Dennis was
Speaker 8: calling as the company was declining and unable to pay
Speaker 8: its bills, was calling saying pay us. And inside of Aspiration,
Speaker 8: what is very clear is that the number one priority,
Speaker 8: that is a quote, the number one priority for this
Speaker 8: collapsing fake Green Bank, was you gotta pay Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 8: As bankruptcy was on the horizon, as no one could
Speaker 8: pay their bills. As no one else was getting paid,
Speaker 8: Kawhi was getting paid. And the question I ask you
Speaker 8: is why was he priority number one for doing nothing
Speaker 8: at a company that could not pay its bills. It
Speaker 8: would seem that there was some influence from behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: Pablo Tory, it's Pablo Tory finds out podcast, Metal Art
Speaker 2: Media and the Athletic. Was it? Joe Smith? Timberwolves? What
Speaker 2: was that five first round draft picks that they were docked?
Speaker 2: I mean, if this is all true, I got to
Speaker 2: believe that precedent has been set.
Speaker 8: He Bablo, Oh oh yeah, Look, there's a history lesson here, right,
Speaker 8: Joe Smith and Glenn Taylor. Glenn Taylor the piece of
Speaker 8: paper they wrote off the books number one overall pick,
Speaker 8: getting that side deal five picks. Glenn Taylor was suspended.
Speaker 8: Kevin McHale, the GM of the team twenty five years
Speaker 8: ago at the time, was put on leave. Fines were levied,
Speaker 8: millions of dollars were levied. But I would say that
Speaker 8: there's a difference here. And Mark Stein tweeted this out
Speaker 8: helpfully because I defer to people who've been covering this
Speaker 8: stuff even longer than me when it comes to well,
Speaker 8: how does this play out? He said, it was staggering
Speaker 8: and unprecedented what is being alleged in our reporting, And
Speaker 8: so you could argue, at least Stein argues, this is
Speaker 8: more than the Joe Smith story, right, This is actually
Speaker 8: far more sophisticated and yet stupid at the same time,
Speaker 8: given everything that I just gave a long wind up on.
Speaker 8: And look, man, Dan, you and I I love by
Speaker 8: the way that you care about the stories, because I
Speaker 8: don't know if anybody really does, with your level of
Speaker 8: prominence in your platform in that way. But how this
Speaker 8: sausage gets made behind the scenes with owners and leagues.
Speaker 8: Steve Bomber is the richest owner in all sports, and
Speaker 8: Adam Silver's boss. Right, So this is not a real
Speaker 8: justice system in the NBA. This is a business deal.
Speaker 8: They got to strike. How do you punish your own boss?
Speaker 8: What are the other bosses, the twenty nine others you have?
Speaker 8: What do they have to say about it? It's a
Speaker 8: fascinating parlor game what the punishment ends up being.
Speaker 2: And we don't know if those other owners have their
Speaker 2: own little shell game going. I don't know how in
Speaker 2: your reporting if you know you're stumbling upon other owners
Speaker 2: who you know, because people love to talk. Once the
Speaker 2: first you know person gets outed, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it feels like it's safe to out other people.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the difference here, and by the way, it's funny,
Speaker 8: like my tip line has never been more more used
Speaker 8: by enemies of Jalen Brunson, right, like a look into
Speaker 8: look into that one?
Speaker 2: Right as well as you know James, is there something
Speaker 2: in there with Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 8: Well, look how he arrived at the next This is
Speaker 8: where I will have to defer to the reporting I
Speaker 8: may or may not do on this certainly was interesting, right, Like, Okay,
Speaker 8: that's a pretty good deal for the next has some whatever. Anyway,
Speaker 8: I don't want to get ahead of myself in terms
Speaker 8: of it.
Speaker 2: That's a tease. That's a tease.
Speaker 8: It's a bit of a tease. Yeah, I'm showing a
Speaker 8: little ankle with you. I always show a little bit
Speaker 8: more ankle than I should. But but by the way, subscribe,
Speaker 8: like subscribe.
Speaker 4: But but the thing.
Speaker 8: About how often this happens, it's a really fascinating question,
Speaker 8: because I would argue that it doesn't happen to this
Speaker 8: scale and with this level of documentation, which is only
Speaker 8: enabled because of the collapse of this fraudulent company. The
Speaker 8: other stuff look historically right, I was. I was assuming
Speaker 8: because I'm maybe dumb, like you would give a stock
Speaker 8: tip or something right like have someone else, you know,
Speaker 8: se multiple degrees away. You wouldn't do it through a
Speaker 8: company that has its signage on your building. But that's
Speaker 8: what our sources say is exactly the thing that happened.
Speaker 8: And so in that way, kind of of its own.
Speaker 8: As as Stein was alluding.
Speaker 2: To, good to talk to you again. I'll talk to
Speaker 2: you with the Jalen Brunson story. Whenever that comes out, Pablo,
Speaker 2: You'll you'll get you'll get some kneecaff. Thank you that level. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it might be moving to thigh after that, Thank you, Pablo. Pablo.
Speaker 2: Pablo Tory finds out podcast Metal Arc media and the
Speaker 2: athletic and contributor to pardon the interruption, the NBA, you know,
Speaker 2: probably thought it was gonna be a quiet day, quiet week. Hey,
Speaker 2: nothing going on, football season. Hey, let's get our fantasy
Speaker 2: draft going on. Come on, commiss you're gonna be in
Speaker 2: our fantasy league. No, no, wait a minute, what's Pablo
Speaker 2: Tori report? Okay, well, we'll do our fantasy draft later.
Speaker 2: Let's let's circle the wagons here. A lot of sources,
Speaker 2: a lot of that's where you have three thousand pages
Speaker 2: because you know the Clippers might have reacted where it's
Speaker 2: you know, if Pablo calls up to get a comment
Speaker 2: and they go, you know that that story is not true.
Speaker 2: We don't have any comment on stories that aren't true. Well,
Speaker 2: we have three thousand pages of documents. We will issue
Speaker 2: a statement.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 2: Come here. We still don't have any comment, but we
Speaker 2: will issue a statement.
Speaker 9: Yes, the NBA has lots of rules printed and otherwise
Speaker 9: that you can't gift a player like a percentage of
Speaker 9: the franchise or equity, either now or in the future
Speaker 9: for players, but people always like, you know, they should
Speaker 9: just give blank Lebron or steph three percent of the franchise.
Speaker 9: You can't do that. There's many rules against this type
Speaker 9: of stuff.
Speaker 2: Man, Sure, I'd love to. Now if you could interview
Speaker 2: Steve Balmer, or you could interview Kawhi, or interview Adam Silver,
Speaker 2: the commissioner, I would have to interview Steve Balmer. Kahi
Speaker 2: is not going to tell you anything. I mean, even
Speaker 2: when he's in a good mood, he's not really telling anything.
Speaker 2: Great laugh, but that's about it. Adam Silver, I don't
Speaker 2: know what he would say. Steve Ballmer, you could ask
Speaker 2: questions and say, how did we get to this point?
Speaker 4: Steve?
Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin, Yeah, because if you interview Kawhi, why isn't
Speaker 10: we like man, my uncle danis set it up. I
Speaker 10: just said, all right. It seems like it's very cut
Speaker 10: and dry where I don't handle any of this. It's
Speaker 10: almost like the show Entourage. Hey, you want to talk
Speaker 10: to visit Chase, Now, talk to E talk to Ari.
Speaker 10: I'm just a movie.
Speaker 2: Star, Yes, Tom.
Speaker 4: Adam Silm is very engaging with you, but ultimately hit up.
Speaker 11: They've got to drop to commissioner's beak and really be
Speaker 11: careful and chooses words, Giff, especially if there's.
Speaker 2: An ongoing any response from the NBA. We have not
Speaker 2: heard Okay, Yeah, probably not going to hear the Clippers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably not going to hear anything. All right, last call
Speaker 2: for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow,
Speaker 2: This day in sports history, all of that coming up next.
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Speaker 2: Hey Otani hit his one hundredth home run as a Dodger.
Speaker 2: It was a loss to the Pirates. He reached one
Speaker 2: hundred home runs in two hundred and ninety four games,
Speaker 2: beating the franchise record of three ninety nine by Gary Sheffield.
Speaker 2: Only two players have reached one hundred home runs with
Speaker 2: a single team faster than Otani did with the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: Mark McGuire, and that was with the Cardinals, Babe Ruth
Speaker 2: with the Yankees. Stat of the Day brought to you
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Speaker 2: of the Dan Patrick Show. My guy Nolan McClain. Once
Speaker 2: again he's rolling for the Mets. He is the first
Speaker 2: pitcher to win his first four career starts while allowing
Speaker 2: two runs or less in each start since two thousand
Speaker 2: and six, Jared Weaver did so for the Angels. All right,
Speaker 2: last call for phone call? Yes, well, it's a funny thing.
Speaker 9: You've been mentioning your guy Nolan McLain around the hallways,
Speaker 9: and whenever you do it, we do the bad guy
Speaker 9: from Diehard, mister McClain, Miss week, I'll just do that
Speaker 9: under our breath, mister McLean.
Speaker 2: No compliance, Shoot the glass, hands, shoot the glass.
Speaker 4: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Curtis in Illinois, Hi, Curtis, thanks for holding what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 12: More DP A couple quick things story this morning. First,
Speaker 12: I think that caller earlier maybe a little overzealous on
Speaker 12: the same success considering they have the team version of
Speaker 12: Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. And then second is how can
Speaker 12: the Packers have Mica passive physical while he has a
Speaker 12: back issue that may require him to have an epidural
Speaker 12: on Sunday? Like, would there be any verbiage in his
Speaker 12: contract for any kind of pre existing injury that would
Speaker 12: nullify any of his guarantees?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm you know. I think leading up
Speaker 2: to it, nobody was really adding credence to this back injury.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, okay, wink wink, he's got a back injury.
Speaker 2: Therefore he can't practice. Now, all of a sudden, you
Speaker 2: hear that he might need an epidural. Sounds a little
Speaker 2: more serious to me, but I don't know what the
Speaker 2: You know, the packers don't want to, you know, avoid
Speaker 2: this deal, but I don't know if it has any
Speaker 2: impact on this contract. But thank you, Curtis Sean in
Speaker 2: Daytona Beach. Hi, Sean, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 5: Thanks for calling me back six foot one point eighty
Speaker 5: five point two this morning. Okay, great stuff this morning,
Speaker 5: especially when you catch up with the playmaker. And speaking
Speaker 5: of that, you know, we're on the eve of the
Speaker 5: NFL season. Fans want hope, and they think you are
Speaker 5: talking trash on their teams. But we are also damned
Speaker 5: on the eve of the eve of the first meat
Speaker 5: Friday of the NFL season. And I wouldn't damn if
Speaker 5: you're going to stand around and talk crap on mayo
Speaker 5: and onions. I want some potatoes out, I want some coleslaw.
Speaker 5: I don't know what Chef Dylan has on the menu,
Speaker 5: but Polly backed me up. That is classic tailgate paper plate. Stup, Dan,
Speaker 5: you can't be talking it meat Friday as a team game.
Speaker 6: It's about the sides.
Speaker 2: We all play together here.
Speaker 5: It's not just about the meat.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean. I'll take that under advisement.
Speaker 9: Yes, Paul, coleslaw is polarizing. People throw that topic out
Speaker 9: there and people get heated on either side. There there's
Speaker 9: no middle ground on coleslaw.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Even if you take the mayo out, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I don't want it.
Speaker 9: It ceases to to be coleslack.
Speaker 2: Well, Dylan said, I made you some cole sloan without mayonnaise. Yeah, guest, what.
Speaker 11: About macaroni souad?
Speaker 4: That's always fun. I know that's.
Speaker 2: Also potato salad. Macaroni salad. No, they're they're in the
Speaker 2: same family. No, the answer is no.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: John in Minnesota, Hi John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6: Take my call? You gotta go to Porkys in Memphis.
Speaker 6: You'll like their cold flock. Okay, sod You guys like
Speaker 6: the current state of college football because, like, for instance,
Speaker 6: Alabama just lost, but it's like who cares? Like you
Speaker 6: didn't beat a Derrick Henry Alabama with Nick Saban, Like
Speaker 6: I just like it's the wild Wow. Last it's just
Speaker 6: chaos a couple of years.
Speaker 2: There's nothing I can do about it. Okay, I've tried
Speaker 2: to be a lifeguard for college football and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I've tried to give even current coaches or one retired
Speaker 2: coach I heads up on exactly what was happening, and nobody.
Speaker 2: These coaches did not believe me years ago and I said, man,
Speaker 2: they're going to be spending money. And then once again
Speaker 2: this is now a retired coach who said, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: were they gonna give the alignment pizza? And I said,
Speaker 2: you you should know, like they're gonna build their offensive
Speaker 2: and defensive lines. But if you don't have salary camps,
Speaker 2: there's still gonna be people getting paid illegally nil all
Speaker 2: of that. It's big business. That's what you always have
Speaker 2: to come back to. This is not the purity, the sanctity,
Speaker 2: the pomp and circumstance of college football. It is business
Speaker 2: traded as such. Yeah.
Speaker 13: See, the thing that I don't understand is funny, Like
Speaker 13: I think people were just always going to react negatively
Speaker 13: to whatever happened in college athletics because of this. But
Speaker 13: the initial reaction to NIL was well, the rich are
Speaker 13: just going to keep getting richer, and now little schools
Speaker 13: never have a chance. And now what we're here seeing is, well,
Speaker 13: what the heck, Alabama's not even good anymore. And I
Speaker 13: also thinks we got to get rid of this. It's
Speaker 13: the exact opposite of what everybody was worried about leading
Speaker 13: into it.
Speaker 14: Yeah, ro I, now great, We're never going to be
Speaker 14: able to compete with Alabama now their pockets are too deep.
Speaker 14: And instead what happened is the little schools actually do
Speaker 14: have more of a chance now. And people don't like
Speaker 14: that either, Sali, Which is it?
Speaker 2: It's in the eye of the beholders, open to interpretation
Speaker 2: of Hey, I love it because I am an Arizona
Speaker 2: State fan or a Boise State fan, then you probably
Speaker 2: love today's of college football. The blue bloods are like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute here, I thought we had the unfair advantage.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with this sport? We're supposed to be, you know,
Speaker 2: getting all of these players. I mean, keep in mind Oklahoma, Nebraska,
Speaker 2: they would over recruit so these other you know, quarterbacks
Speaker 2: and running backs and wide receivers, defensive linemen didn't go
Speaker 2: to other schools.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 13: See, yeah, I forget who it was that said it,
Speaker 13: but it might have been somebody that we had on
Speaker 13: the show. But they were talking about how the problem
Speaker 13: is that these other schools like the Alabama's and the
Speaker 13: Power of House schools just aren't as deep as they
Speaker 13: were because kids are getting money and going to actually
Speaker 13: play real minutes at other schools rather than sitting behind
Speaker 13: for two, you know, a year or two behind. Well,
Speaker 13: I got Dereck Henry ahead of me, and then I
Speaker 13: got so and so, but then in you know, a
Speaker 13: year or two, it's going to be my turn. Instead,
Speaker 13: they could just take a million dollars and go play
Speaker 13: somewhere else right now.
Speaker 2: Well, the you had like three or four running backs
Speaker 2: that we're all going to play in the NFL, and
Speaker 2: they're like jets lined up at LAX ready to take off,
Speaker 2: and they got to wait their turn. Now it's like, uh,
Speaker 2: I'm out of here? What Yeah? Yeah, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 10: My favorite thing about Alabama during the Nick Saving years was, Hey,
Speaker 10: Alvin Kamier your fifth string You're not going to play
Speaker 10: Alvin Kamire is your fifth string guy? Or even like
Speaker 10: Roocher's talking about the you Frank Gore couldn't get on
Speaker 10: the field until his senior year, cause you just had
Speaker 10: Clinton Portis and Willis mcgahey and j Davenport.
Speaker 2: Ahead of them. You know, I know, Ah, the old days.
Speaker 2: Darn it, oh miss we missed the old days. Tomorrow
Speaker 2: the fifth Annual Hot Take Draft.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Wow, we got to bring back some hot takes from
Speaker 2: a year ago. Now, these are things that are in
Speaker 2: the realm of possibilities, but it's it's pretty wild though.
Speaker 2: We make some you know, the hotter the take, the better,
Speaker 2: the better the content. We do have the hot take
Speaker 2: now chain that we'll be bringing out. That's back my
Speaker 2: Seaton's desk. This day in sports history, Haull.
Speaker 9: Just a couple for you, Dan. Eighteen ninety five, the
Speaker 9: first pro football game played in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. The Latrobe
Speaker 9: YMCA took it to Jeannette Athletic Club twelve zero. Jeanette
Speaker 9: disbanded after that year out of embarrassment.
Speaker 2: They could even show their faces embarrassing.
Speaker 9: Nineteen seventy Vince Lombardi died of cancer at only age
Speaker 9: fifty seven. I did not realize he was that young. Wow,
Speaker 9: that kind of hits you. Two thousand and one, Bud
Speaker 9: Smith of the Cardinals, the sixteenth pageor league rookie to
Speaker 9: throw a no hitter. It was only his eleventh career start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that doing Sports Center? All right, it was
Speaker 2: a fun show, quick show. Crammed a lot in there,
Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, Ron Jaworski on the program tomorrow. Uh, Todd,
Speaker 2: what did you learn today?
Speaker 11: On a populatory story that Kawhi got a no show
Speaker 11: drop from Steve Baumber to circumvent the NBA side cap.
Speaker 11: You suggest he already has that job no showing on
Speaker 11: the court for the Clippers slam Seaton?
Speaker 2: What did you learn today? Plot is putting in work?
Speaker 2: Yes he is, Yes he is. That's where it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it used to be of sixty minutes in
Speaker 2: Mike Wallace. Now it's Pablo Torre. It's like he's doing
Speaker 2: a deep dive. Marvin Jalen Probably show the Knicks, Paul,
Speaker 2: what did you learn today?
Speaker 9: Is he day unexpectedly at the NBA offices?
Speaker 2: How about you? Todd? Can you tell me what I
Speaker 2: learned today?
Speaker 11: You know what we all learned? DraftKings is not working
Speaker 11: on ghost led promotion, Dylan. Where if you miss your
Speaker 11: parlay by just one you can recoup some Money.
Speaker 2: Nice the Gambling Podcast. We're gonna tape that after the
Speaker 2: show today because Dylan wants to go to the Eagles
Speaker 2: game tomorrow, so we'll do that today. Shane, Irving, Bad, Larry,
Speaker 2: and Dylan. Thanks for joining us. We'll try to do
Speaker 2: better tomorrow.