WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Michael Irvin, Pablo Torre 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.400 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.680 Welcome to the Week of False Hope. If you're an 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.160 NFL fan, you can have all the hope you want. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.480 And for some of you fan bases, some of you fans, 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.520 you know it's false hope. You just don't want somebody 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.200 telling you it's false hope. As I found out in 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.439 the first hour with Browns fans and Saints fans, how 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.840 dare you tell us our team is going to be bad? 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.440 Only we can say our team is going to be bad? 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.920 But you know, reality sets in and then all of 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.879 a sudden, you go, all right, we are who we 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.320 thought we were. Thursday night, NFL season kicks off the 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.559 rivalry the Eagles the Cowboys. The line is now up 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.680 to eight and a half. NFL Kickoff presented by YouTube TV. Thursday, 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.279 It's seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. Michael Irvin will 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.720 join us coming up momentarily. Good morning. If you are 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.520 watching on Peacock, Thank you for downloading the app. A 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.760 couple more phone calls this final hour come up with 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.920 a new poll question as well, and could the LA 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:05.839 Clippers be in trouble with the NBA circumventing the salary cap, 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.440 maybe paying Kawhi Leonard money off the books. Pablo Torre 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.160 has an expose, and we'll talk to Pablo. He'll join 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.560 us in about twenty five minutes from now. He is 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.200 the playmaker. He's IRV, three time Super Bowl champion, he 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.960 is a Hall of Shamer, and he is a proud 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.600 member of the You he was on the sidelines, Mike, 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.000 you were more excited than the players during that Notre 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:29.640 Dame game. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.280 Well, I don't know about that, DP because I certainly 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.360 certainly didn't put in the work that they put in. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:42.360 But then listen, I know, I know I'm approaching you know, 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:47.960 sixty years old. Those are young men playing, just having fun. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.200 Is my job to let them note, these are the 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:56.200 greatest times of your life. Yeah, don't let these slip away. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:01.160 You're writing your history and go right. Well, so you 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:01.480 could be. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.680 An old man like me and remin this well later, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.000 you know what I'm saying. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.360 But it was it's so great to be out there 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.880 with those guys then and be able to feel like 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.320 you're part of something, you know what I mean. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.799 They look at me, they said, oh, we love it 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.480 with you here, man, and. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.000 You know, it's just yeah, that does things for me, man, 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:20.399 so so I enjoy it. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.320 What was it like to watch the Cowboy documentary when 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.040 you're reopening a scrap book there? 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:31.040 Well, yeah, that was It was easy for me because 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.080 it was my life. I walked out and I lived 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.359 on it. I lived in my head with it all 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.600 the time anyway, you know. And and then it was 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.960 time to really open up and share about a lot 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.799 of things. The world has moved forward and changed, and 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.799 now you can use your history to try to help 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.160 somebody have got a destiny if you can, if you 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.760 open up and share. So that's what I thought it 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.800 was time to do. And in the documentary, and and 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.640 I thought they did a great job. I thought they 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.560 did a great job in shooting it and allowing people 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.720 to share and try to straighten out some of the 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.680 stories you know that always get greater later and turning 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:09.480 their lives. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:10.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.560 Okay, what's the one story that you wanted to correct? 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.679 Well, well, I don't want to say I want to correct, 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.000 but like you're you're not a guy that's over that. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.680 Boys would be boys books walking around like like I 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.799 tripped a pair of suitters that just walked up and 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.360 stabbed Everett mcgiver in the naked stuff like that, even 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.320 though it was all wrong. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.320 But that's not what happened. You know. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:39.280 We we were we weren't getting hairt haircut and everything. 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.760 And actually I was getting my ass kicked, you. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.360 See what I'm saying. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.160 I was really get my ass kicking, and in order 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.640 to try to defend myself, I did something stupid, you know, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.560 stuff like that. But and we were out drinking, and 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.360 we were out drinking before that. We were all and 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.600 I was what I was doing was reving the line 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.200 in the young lineman, just like I did with Big E, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.920 just like we did with Larry Allen, to make sure 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:10.200 they're ready with his time. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:11.760 He was the new guy coming in. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.920 We were like, come on, new guy, you're the new guy, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.040 you know, things like that. And we had already asked 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.080 some drinks frire to that, I think, And then Big 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.080 E was messing with him, telling me, come on, now, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.520 you ain't gonna let that little say something you like that, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.200 right every. 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.440 And then he came in. Yeah he was whooping by 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:33.960 butt there right for him. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.280 All wait, so then you grab the scissors. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.799 Yeah yeah, and I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.360 have done that. And I thank him today though, Rich. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.279 I mean, I'm gonna call you Rich because I'm so 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.120 used to you and Rich together DP. I thank him 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.520 today for the way he handled that. You know what 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:50.920 I mean. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.159 I was trying to I talked to Big E. We can't. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:55.359 I was looking for his number. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:56.960 I just wanted to reach out to him again, because 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.560 when you see the documentary, it makes you think and 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.880 really relive all of it, and and you think about 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.120 how important that moment was and the way he handled 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.479 it for me and to still be at this moment 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.680 at end of my life. So it makes you want 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.120 to reach out and just just tell him thank you again. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.480 Are the Cowboys better this week than last week? 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:23.000 I can't say that, And that's why do you. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.680 Think Jerry feels that way? 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.479 That's that's it. I say, I can't say that, and 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:29.760 that's a hurting question. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.200 And and then you ask that question, and I'm giving 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:34.520 you because he's a hurt. 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.240 Hurt, because he's hurting, that's the answer. You know. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.920 I know when I saw this, I felt his pain 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.279 in that press conference. I know the relationship he wanted 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:50.679 with Michael. I certainly know the relationship Michael wanted with Jerry. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.479 When I did that draft, I was at that draft, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.000 I was by spot. Michael came up to me and said, 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.960 I'm going to do I'm gonna do just what you're doing. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.040 I'm gonna be just don't do this, he said this. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.200 And then you'll see after the Cowboys actually draft him, 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:13.200 we were in the back yelling. Liked he wanted to 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.359 play for the Cowboys, who wanted to do win championships, 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.560 and he wanted to be doing TV just like me. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.400 This is what he said to me day one of 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:25.080 the draft. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:30.760 Now I know, I know, and he wanted a life 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.479 after football and in this business. And what do you 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.200 think that podcast would have been? He was building one 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.760 hundred million dollar podcasts as long as he was playing 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:46.520 for the Dallas Cowboys. It's no longer that anymore. So, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.400 so I know, you got a good deal, which really 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.719 comes out to be five years, forty two million a year, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.360 but a great deal, a great deal, and and he 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.679 got the money. But I still say it's a failure, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.320 certainly for the Cowboys, but but I. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:02.800 Think for him also. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.960 And then you did like like what your boy said, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.400 better for his agent than what's best for him. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.800 Yeah, and you it feels like he still is a 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.360 cowboy in his mind, like he wanted to be a cowboy. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.120 Yeah, and and and and and the agent who does 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.280 a great job came on went on Our Boys show yesterday, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.760 Steven and he said, he said. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.680 Michael wanted to be a Dallas cowboy. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:32.480 That your next statement is nothing boyd to me, everything 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.560 else is nothing board because your job. 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:36.160 You blew your job. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.680 I don't want to hear you tell me I got 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.720 I raised the number about five million dollars. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.320 That's new money, new year. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.360 That's future value, not present value, because we're starting right here, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:50.640 even though it's only a year later. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.360 But then it's five You did. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.000 For forty two million, where you could have worked out 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.760 a deal where Michael is taking home more money. You 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.640 have worked out of there, and he should have put 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.840 the egos aside and got that deal worked out. The 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.400 number one thing he said was Michael wanted to be 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.240 a Dallas cowboy. That's your job to go get the 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.120 most money from the Dallas cowboys. That was your job 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:15.520 and they failed. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:19.480 At Yeah, I understand what you're saying. And it felt 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.680 like Jerry, his feelings are hurt, and you're not going 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.400 to talk to me that way. I get deals done. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.000 I've made deals all my life. That's how I got here. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.640 Who are you to tell me to stick that contract 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.160 you know up my rear end? 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:33.040 Yeah? 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.560 But also but also but also, oh so I understand that, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:38.040 I understand. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.840 I don't care how Jerry reacts. It is how you 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.760 reacts to Jerry's reaction. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.640 And with steven aasked, he said, do you try to 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.840 send a contract? He said, I told him yeah, he said, 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.520 he said yes, he said yes, he said, I said 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.960 to Adam, if you guys think I'm going to rubber stampy, 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.800 don't that that shouldn't even come out of the mouth. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.880 Send a contract, go it over, red line in the 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.320 contract what you did not like, Put your numbers in 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:12.640 and send it back. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.800 You are in for a negotiation. I mean Jerry may 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:17.559 have said. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.360 Well, he said, shove it up here, but he said 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.559 he never said that I can buy that. But then 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.320 on the other end, I must extrapolate from him that 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:27.120 there's no way. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:27.920 He just said. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.800 I told him I'm not going rather stamping. If you 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.880 guys were already in the heated moment. So yeah, yeah, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.880 you should have taken that contract and negotiate it. That's 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.360 my thought. That's my thought. I got my opinion, you know, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.640 and if if Michael's and everybody happy, then I'm okay 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:46.080 with it. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.960 But I just thought he wanted to be here. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.040 Michael Irvin, Hall of Famer, three times super Bowl champ. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:53.040 Hell's Dion doing. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.320 You know how Dion is doing? Yondon had a game 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.719 he could have won the other night. He had that 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.160 game that was a big game. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.679 So wise health wise. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.640 Health wise, he's great. Health Wise, he's great. Health wise, 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.640 He's in the best place he could be. That's right 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.280 back on the sideline with his guy. I told you Dan, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.199 when I went to see him and he was really 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.840 at his lowest. All he talked about to me, which 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.880 was amazing, was you know, I haven't seen my players. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.360 I haven't seen my players. And I told him it 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.040 reminded me, well, my dad was very sick and went 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.280 to the doctor and and all he was thinking about 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.760 was his family. You know, it tells you the power 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.760 and how powerful that kind of man is is that, 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.959 you know, so so yeah, you know he feels it 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.920 was like that, thinking only about his players. When he 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.720 was at his lords and now his players are probably 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.200 feeling low. Yeah, you know how he feels right now, 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.080 But health wise he's healthy. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.679 If I told you that you could pick, he had 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:58.200 to pick Miami Hurricanes win the National title or the 0:10:58.240 --> 0:10:59.839 Cowboys win the Super Bowl. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:05.280 I would take. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.719 I would take the team that have already won a 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:13.959 championship with. You know, whatever team I've already won a 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.839 championship with that, that's the team I picked. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:18.719 Picked the Cowboys. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:26.120 I want a championship, and both teams that there. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.280 Don't try to don't try to come. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.400 That did That ain't the first time. One time Miami, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.760 a team from Florida came up here to play a 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.440 team in Texas. You know, in high school football. I 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.719 was on the sideline. They were trying to pin me 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.160 what state you're going for? 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.120 The state I want a championship? 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:55.040 That would you know, how do the Eagles not go 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.040 back to the Super Bowl? 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.120 Man? I mean, first of all, they have a great team. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.040 They have a great team, and it's going to take 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.240 someone to go take it because they won't give it. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.080 Because he's a great leader in Jalen hurts Man, the 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:10.400 way he. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.240 Just go about his business, and the best thing, the 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.000 best thing happened to that team. And I'm not talking 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.240 about for his ability to run the football. I'm talking 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.760 about for his ability to run himself his way, his personality. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.160 Was Saquon Barkley coming over and showing that kind of 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.760 leadership to the A. J. Browns and the Avante Smiths 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:38.600 that it ain't about us individually, it's about us collectively. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.720 And now, yeah, now they're dangerous. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.360 They are the favorites, and you gotta go take it 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.079 from them. The only way they lose it is if 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.520 they lose that glue. That glue is Saquon Barkley. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.040 How often you talk to Troy? 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.200 I told him Truck quite a bit. I saw him 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.040 the last couple couple weeks. 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.280 With a couple of things we were doing together, like 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.960 you know, of course I had them on my podcast 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.480 and on a YouTube channel, and then we had we 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.360 went to Jimmy's retirement party, you know, I mean, we 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.880 selected in Jimmy's retirement party from Fox. So so yeah, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.320 we get out, we get around and get to talk, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.959 but we all do. And and also, you know, Dann, 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.120 that's the great thing. We're still all best boys and 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.760 still hanging around and still talking football and get to 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.880 talk about what's going on now with the Cowboys. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.599 But Troy didn't socialize you with you back in the 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:34.920 day with the cowboys. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.920 He no, Dan, that's a nice question we have asking 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.680 because I appreciate your respects for Troy. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.760 An. You know, Troy never came to the White House. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.200 Did That's what you tried to get to. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.559 Well, wasn't Troy dating Sandra Buller back then? 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:51.400 Hey? 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:52.720 Troy never did? 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:53.080 You know? 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:53.520 Everybody? 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.120 Troy was one of them rare rares by Hey I 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.600 took They'll tell you Troy. Hey, Troy came home and 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.720 makking people in his house. He called the police. That's 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.360 what Troy does. He was the right kind of guy. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.760 I was like, well, but wasn't he Wasn't he dating 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.160 Sandra Bullock at one point? 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.520 Yeah, well I don't. I don't remember it if it 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:21.480 was sad a bullet, but you know, yeah, you know 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.920 I didn't do that thing on Instagram or something on 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:30.040 the social media where he said the women you did, right, 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:37.360 he's the quarterback, was a cowboy. But you know truck 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.240 with youll blonde hair, blue eyes, and boy, that's shot. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:49.200 You know, I won't need that at all. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.640 Try to get me in trouble there, but. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.280 You know you get you got yourself in trouble. I'm not. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.040 It's okay now, I don't really got a job right now, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:04.560 give me it's all good. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.120 Great to talk to your great to talk to him. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.280 I missed you too, DP, I missed you too. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.360 Man. I'm glad to see you're doing well still, my brother. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:13.680 You just keep pounding away. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.040 Thank you, man, God bless you. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.760 Michael Irvin won a national championship at the U in 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:25.840 nineteen eighty seven. Wasn't he the eleventh overall pick? Just 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.520 like Michael Parsons? Does that sound right? Is both the 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:34.160 eleventh overall pick? Is Mike still there? Mike? 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:34.480 Yeah? 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.320 Were you you the eleventh? 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:37.600 Left? I was eleven? 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.240 I think what Mike did? Mike Quesson got fourteenth? Some 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.600 wasn't no, he wore eleven. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:43.400 He wore eleven. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.760 But yeah, I think because he dropped in his draft 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.200 or something, and and and I told him, you don't 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.400 drop to the Cowboys. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.560 You are placed to the Cowboys. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:16:02.920 God, God, s now you know now this has happened. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.440 You shouldn't have left that placement. But that's what I. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:11.160 Told thank you, Mike, thank you. Marv Ware was Michael 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.480 Parsons overall? Twelfth? 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:13.920 Overall? 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.720 Okay, I thought they were both the eleventh. All right? 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:21.080 Are the LA Clippers in trouble? It certainly sounds like 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.160 they've got some questions to answer. I think they're in trouble. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:29.080 The question is how much trouble. Pablo Torre has a well, 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:34.400 he's got an explosive story investigation into Steve Balmer and 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.920 circumventing the salary cap and maybe paying Kawhi Leonard off 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.040 the books. Pablo joins us next Dan Patrick Show. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.640 Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.360 Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.560 on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.960 Hey, it's Ben, host of a Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.560 Would mean a lot to have you join us on 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.000 our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.280 is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's a spin 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.960 off of that Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.360 on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if you will? 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.720 A world will We chat with captains of industry in media, sports, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.120 and more every week Explore some amazing facts about human 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.640 nature and more. Listen to the Fifth Hour with Ben 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.320 Maller on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:21.200 get your podcasts. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.360 I come in today and I see the LA Clippers 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.920 are trending, and I go, what first week is September? 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:33.639 What James Harden shaved his beard? And I don't think 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.880 that's why they're trending. And then I realize they're trending 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:41.240 for batter reason. Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds out podcasts, 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.880 Metal art media, and the Athletic Contributor. To pardon the interruption, 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:50.320 all right, summarize your report on the Clippers. Steve Balmer 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:51.560 and Kawhi Leonard. 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.760 Hello, Dan, we got to stop meeting like this. As always, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.520 it's always something when we get together. You may recall 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.480 t nineteen, the NBA investigated the signing of Kawhi Leonard 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.800 by the Clippers. This was the Uncle Dennis story, him 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.159 asking for all the sweeteners, the side deals. This was 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.200 the Lakers, the raptors, very mad, lots of teams, very mad. 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.520 NBA investigates says this is a cardinal sin. Salary caps 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:21.000 are convention, but they find nothing. Today we have given 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.320 something I dare say to anybody who cares about this stuff, 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.480 and the stuff here is kind of wild. This is 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.840 a story that started because of a company called Aspiration, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.800 which no one really remembers in fairness, but they had 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.480 signed some of the most famous people in the world 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:45.320 to be endorsers. Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, Robert Downey Junior, Cindy Crawford, 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:50.119 Cindy Crawford's daughter, all people who endorsed this climate change 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.440 company that planted trees to zero out your carbon footprint, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:57.560 like good guys, only for those same good guys to 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.840 have since been embroiled in what has been a concurrent 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.800 Department of Justice and SEC investigations that have resulted in 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.520 guilty please by one of the co founders of the company, 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:13.200 a prominent Democratic politician and donor named Joe Sandberg, who 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.720 happens to have also been a buddy of Steve Bomber 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.919 and Steve Bomber. In this story, we establish and report, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.840 using over three thousand documents and seven sources from inside 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.640 the company, put in fifty million dollars of his own 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.720 money into Aspiration. Very long lined up. I apologize for 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.800 taking so long. Here's the punchline. The endorsement deal that 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.760 was the biggest that Aspiration signed given all those A 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:42.440 List avengers, happened to be Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars, 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.359 more than four times the rest of the celebrity roster combined. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:48.320 And the kicker, you. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.080 Might argue, is that he didn't do anything. It was 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.240 a no show job, did nothing, wasn't obligated to do anything, 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.000 which you can explain if you want, but the point being, 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.040 it was a secret deal that no one knew about 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:00.240 until now. 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.120 NBA have anything to say. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.760 Yet, not yet, not yet, I should say, Steve Bomber 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.520 and the Clippers. When we asked them for comment, they 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.080 said that this was provably false, that they denied it. 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.080 They did not know at the time that we had 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.960 over three thousand pages of documents and seven sources. I 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:21.040 look forward to improving the falsehoods that they allege. I 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.640 can tell you though, from the NBA perspective, what I've 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.119 been told this morning is that it's been a bit 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.960 of panic over there. I'm told that they did not 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.920 know about this deal between Steve Bomber, or at the 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.400 very least between Aspiration and Kawhi Leonard. With the influence 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.959 of Steve Bomber, according to our reporting, being the driving 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.199 force of it. So yeah, it's going to get a 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:43.800 little messy. 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:45.000 Dan over there, I. 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.159