1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Week of False Hope. If you're an 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: NFL fan, you can have all the hope you want. 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: And for some of you fan bases, some of you fans, 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: you know it's false hope. You just don't want somebody 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: telling you it's false hope. As I found out in 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: the first hour with Browns fans and Saints fans, how 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: dare you tell us our team is going to be bad? 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Only we can say our team is going to be bad? 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: But you know, reality sets in and then all of 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: a sudden, you go, all right, we are who we 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: thought we were. Thursday night, NFL season kicks off the 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: rivalry the Eagles the Cowboys. The line is now up 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: to eight and a half. NFL Kickoff presented by YouTube TV. Thursday, 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: It's seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. Michael Irvin will 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: join us coming up momentarily. Good morning. If you are 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: watching on Peacock, Thank you for downloading the app. A 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: couple more phone calls this final hour come up with 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: a new poll question as well, and could the LA 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: Clippers be in trouble with the NBA circumventing the salary cap, 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: maybe paying Kawhi Leonard money off the books. Pablo Torre 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: has an expose, and we'll talk to Pablo. He'll join 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: us in about twenty five minutes from now. He is 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: the playmaker. He's IRV, three time Super Bowl champion, he 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: is a Hall of Shamer, and he is a proud 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: member of the You he was on the sidelines, Mike, 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: you were more excited than the players during that Notre 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Dame game. 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about that, DP because I certainly 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: certainly didn't put in the work that they put in. 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: But then listen, I know, I know I'm approaching you know, 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: sixty years old. Those are young men playing, just having fun. 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: Is my job to let them note, these are the 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: greatest times of your life. Yeah, don't let these slip away. 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: You're writing your history and go right. Well, so you 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: could be. 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: An old man like me and remin this well later, 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: But it was it's so great to be out there 41 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: with those guys then and be able to feel like 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: you're part of something, you know what I mean. 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 4: They look at me, they said, oh, we love it 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: with you here, man, and. 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's just yeah, that does things for me, man, 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 3: so so I enjoy it. 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: What was it like to watch the Cowboy documentary when 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: you're reopening a scrap book there? 49 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that was It was easy for me because 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: it was my life. I walked out and I lived 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: on it. I lived in my head with it all 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: the time anyway, you know. And and then it was 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: time to really open up and share about a lot 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: of things. The world has moved forward and changed, and 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: now you can use your history to try to help 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: somebody have got a destiny if you can, if you 57 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: open up and share. So that's what I thought it 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: was time to do. And in the documentary, and and 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: I thought they did a great job. I thought they 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: did a great job in shooting it and allowing people 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: to share and try to straighten out some of the 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: stories you know that always get greater later and turning 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: their lives. 64 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 65 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: Okay, what's the one story that you wanted to correct? 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't want to say I want to correct, 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: but like you're you're not a guy that's over that. 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: Boys would be boys books walking around like like I 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: tripped a pair of suitters that just walked up and 70 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: stabbed Everett mcgiver in the naked stuff like that, even 71 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: though it was all wrong. 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: But that's not what happened. You know. 73 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: We we were we weren't getting hairt haircut and everything. 74 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: And actually I was getting my ass kicked, you. 75 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 5: See what I'm saying. 76 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: I was really get my ass kicking, and in order 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: to try to defend myself, I did something stupid, you know, 78 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: stuff like that. But and we were out drinking, and 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: we were out drinking before that. We were all and 80 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: I was what I was doing was reving the line 81 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: in the young lineman, just like I did with Big E, 82 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: just like we did with Larry Allen, to make sure 83 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: they're ready with his time. 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: He was the new guy coming in. 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: We were like, come on, new guy, you're the new guy, 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: you know, things like that. And we had already asked 87 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: some drinks frire to that, I think, And then Big 88 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: E was messing with him, telling me, come on, now, 89 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: you ain't gonna let that little say something you like that, 90 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: right every. 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: And then he came in. Yeah he was whooping by 92 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: butt there right for him. 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: All wait, so then you grab the scissors. 94 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: have done that. And I thank him today though, Rich. 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna call you Rich because I'm so 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: used to you and Rich together DP. I thank him 98 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: today for the way he handled that. You know what 99 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: I mean. 100 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: I was trying to I talked to Big E. We can't. 101 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: I was looking for his number. 102 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: I just wanted to reach out to him again, because 103 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: when you see the documentary, it makes you think and 104 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: really relive all of it, and and you think about 105 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: how important that moment was and the way he handled 106 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: it for me and to still be at this moment 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: at end of my life. So it makes you want 108 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: to reach out and just just tell him thank you again. 109 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: Are the Cowboys better this week than last week? 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: I can't say that, And that's why do you. 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: Think Jerry feels that way? 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 4: That's that's it. I say, I can't say that, and 113 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: that's a hurting question. 114 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: And and then you ask that question, and I'm giving 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: you because he's a hurt. 116 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: Hurt, because he's hurting, that's the answer. You know. 117 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: I know when I saw this, I felt his pain 118 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: in that press conference. I know the relationship he wanted 119 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 3: with Michael. I certainly know the relationship Michael wanted with Jerry. 120 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: When I did that draft, I was at that draft, 121 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: I was by spot. Michael came up to me and said, 122 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to do I'm gonna do just what you're doing. 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be just don't do this, he said this. 124 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: And then you'll see after the Cowboys actually draft him, 125 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: we were in the back yelling. Liked he wanted to 126 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: play for the Cowboys, who wanted to do win championships, 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: and he wanted to be doing TV just like me. 128 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: This is what he said to me day one of 129 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: the draft. 130 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: Now I know, I know, and he wanted a life 131 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 3: after football and in this business. And what do you 132 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: think that podcast would have been? He was building one 133 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: hundred million dollar podcasts as long as he was playing 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: for the Dallas Cowboys. It's no longer that anymore. So, 135 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: so I know, you got a good deal, which really 136 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: comes out to be five years, forty two million a year, 137 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: but a great deal, a great deal, and and he 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 3: got the money. But I still say it's a failure, 139 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: certainly for the Cowboys, but but I. 140 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: Think for him also. 141 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: And then you did like like what your boy said, 142 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: better for his agent than what's best for him. 143 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you it feels like he still is a 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: cowboy in his mind, like he wanted to be a cowboy. 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and and and the agent who does 146 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: a great job came on went on Our Boys show yesterday, 147 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: Steven and he said, he said. 148 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: Michael wanted to be a Dallas cowboy. 149 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: That your next statement is nothing boyd to me, everything 150 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: else is nothing board because your job. 151 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: You blew your job. 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear you tell me I got 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: I raised the number about five million dollars. 154 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: That's new money, new year. 155 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: That's future value, not present value, because we're starting right here, 156 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: even though it's only a year later. 157 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: But then it's five You did. 158 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: For forty two million, where you could have worked out 159 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: a deal where Michael is taking home more money. You 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: have worked out of there, and he should have put 161 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: the egos aside and got that deal worked out. The 162 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: number one thing he said was Michael wanted to be 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: a Dallas cowboy. That's your job to go get the 164 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: most money from the Dallas cowboys. That was your job 165 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: and they failed. 166 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: At Yeah, I understand what you're saying. And it felt 167 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: like Jerry, his feelings are hurt, and you're not going 168 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: to talk to me that way. I get deals done. 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: I've made deals all my life. That's how I got here. 170 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: Who are you to tell me to stick that contract 171 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: you know up my rear end? 172 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 173 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: But also but also but also, oh so I understand that, 174 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: I understand. 175 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 4: I don't care how Jerry reacts. It is how you 176 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: reacts to Jerry's reaction. 177 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: And with steven aasked, he said, do you try to 178 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: send a contract? He said, I told him yeah, he said, 179 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: he said yes, he said yes, he said, I said 180 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: to Adam, if you guys think I'm going to rubber stampy, 181 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: don't that that shouldn't even come out of the mouth. 182 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: Send a contract, go it over, red line in the 183 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: contract what you did not like, Put your numbers in 184 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: and send it back. 185 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: You are in for a negotiation. I mean Jerry may 186 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: have said. 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: Well, he said, shove it up here, but he said 188 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: he never said that I can buy that. But then 189 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: on the other end, I must extrapolate from him that 190 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: there's no way. 191 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: He just said. 192 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: I told him I'm not going rather stamping. If you 193 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: guys were already in the heated moment. So yeah, yeah, 194 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: you should have taken that contract and negotiate it. That's 195 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: my thought. That's my thought. I got my opinion, you know, 196 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: and if if Michael's and everybody happy, then I'm okay 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: with it. 198 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: But I just thought he wanted to be here. 199 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: Michael Irvin, Hall of Famer, three times super Bowl champ. 200 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: Hell's Dion doing. 201 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: You know how Dion is doing? Yondon had a game 202 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 3: he could have won the other night. He had that 203 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: game that was a big game. 204 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: So wise health wise. 205 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Health wise, he's great. Health Wise, he's great. Health wise, 206 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: He's in the best place he could be. That's right 207 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: back on the sideline with his guy. I told you Dan, 208 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: when I went to see him and he was really 209 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: at his lowest. All he talked about to me, which 210 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: was amazing, was you know, I haven't seen my players. 211 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: I haven't seen my players. And I told him it 212 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: reminded me, well, my dad was very sick and went 213 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: to the doctor and and all he was thinking about 214 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: was his family. You know, it tells you the power 215 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: and how powerful that kind of man is is that, 216 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: you know, so so yeah, you know he feels it 217 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: was like that, thinking only about his players. When he 218 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: was at his lords and now his players are probably 219 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: feeling low. Yeah, you know how he feels right now, 220 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: But health wise he's healthy. 221 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: If I told you that you could pick, he had 222 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: to pick Miami Hurricanes win the National title or the 223 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: Cowboys win the Super Bowl. 224 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: I would take. 225 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 3: I would take the team that have already won a 226 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 3: championship with. You know, whatever team I've already won a 227 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: championship with that, that's the team I picked. 228 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: Picked the Cowboys. 229 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 4: I want a championship, and both teams that there. 230 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: Don't try to don't try to come. 231 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: That did That ain't the first time. One time Miami, 232 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: a team from Florida came up here to play a 233 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: team in Texas. You know, in high school football. I 234 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 3: was on the sideline. They were trying to pin me 235 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: what state you're going for? 236 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: The state I want a championship? 237 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: That would you know, how do the Eagles not go 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl? 239 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: Man? I mean, first of all, they have a great team. 240 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: They have a great team, and it's going to take 241 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: someone to go take it because they won't give it. 242 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: Because he's a great leader in Jalen hurts Man, the 243 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: way he. 244 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: Just go about his business, and the best thing, the 245 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: best thing happened to that team. And I'm not talking 246 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: about for his ability to run the football. I'm talking 247 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: about for his ability to run himself his way, his personality. 248 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: Was Saquon Barkley coming over and showing that kind of 249 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: leadership to the A. J. Browns and the Avante Smiths 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: that it ain't about us individually, it's about us collectively. 251 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: And now, yeah, now they're dangerous. 252 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: They are the favorites, and you gotta go take it 253 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: from them. The only way they lose it is if 254 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: they lose that glue. That glue is Saquon Barkley. 255 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: How often you talk to Troy? 256 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: I told him Truck quite a bit. I saw him 257 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 4: the last couple couple weeks. 258 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: With a couple of things we were doing together, like 259 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: you know, of course I had them on my podcast 260 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: and on a YouTube channel, and then we had we 261 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: went to Jimmy's retirement party, you know, I mean, we 262 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: selected in Jimmy's retirement party from Fox. So so yeah, 263 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: we get out, we get around and get to talk, 264 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 3: but we all do. And and also, you know, Dann, 265 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: that's the great thing. We're still all best boys and 266 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: still hanging around and still talking football and get to 267 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: talk about what's going on now with the Cowboys. 268 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 2: But Troy didn't socialize you with you back in the 269 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: day with the cowboys. 270 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: He no, Dan, that's a nice question we have asking 271 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: because I appreciate your respects for Troy. 272 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: An. You know, Troy never came to the White House. 273 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: Did That's what you tried to get to. 274 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: Well, wasn't Troy dating Sandra Buller back then? 275 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: Hey? 276 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: Troy never did? 277 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: You know? 278 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Everybody? 279 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: Troy was one of them rare rares by Hey I 280 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: took They'll tell you Troy. Hey, Troy came home and 281 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: makking people in his house. He called the police. That's 282 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: what Troy does. He was the right kind of guy. 283 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: I was like, well, but wasn't he Wasn't he dating 284 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: Sandra Bullock at one point? 285 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't. I don't remember it if it 286 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: was sad a bullet, but you know, yeah, you know 287 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: I didn't do that thing on Instagram or something on 288 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: the social media where he said the women you did, right, 289 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: he's the quarterback, was a cowboy. But you know truck 290 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: with youll blonde hair, blue eyes, and boy, that's shot. 291 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 6: You know, I won't need that at all. 292 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: Try to get me in trouble there, but. 293 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: You know you get you got yourself in trouble. I'm not. 294 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: It's okay now, I don't really got a job right now, 295 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: give me it's all good. 296 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: Great to talk to your great to talk to him. 297 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: I missed you too, DP, I missed you too. 298 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: Man. I'm glad to see you're doing well still, my brother. 299 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: You just keep pounding away. 300 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, man, God bless you. 301 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: Michael Irvin won a national championship at the U in 302 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. Wasn't he the eleventh overall pick? Just 303 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: like Michael Parsons? Does that sound right? Is both the 304 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: eleventh overall pick? Is Mike still there? Mike? 305 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 306 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: Were you you the eleventh? 307 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: Left? I was eleven? 308 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: I think what Mike did? Mike Quesson got fourteenth? Some 309 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: wasn't no, he wore eleven. 310 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: He wore eleven. 311 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think because he dropped in his draft 312 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: or something, and and and I told him, you don't 313 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: drop to the Cowboys. 314 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: You are placed to the Cowboys. 315 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: God, God, s now you know now this has happened. 316 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: You shouldn't have left that placement. But that's what I. 317 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: Told thank you, Mike, thank you. Marv Ware was Michael 318 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: Parsons overall? Twelfth? 319 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 5: Overall? 320 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I thought they were both the eleventh. All right? 321 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: Are the LA Clippers in trouble? It certainly sounds like 322 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: they've got some questions to answer. I think they're in trouble. 323 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: The question is how much trouble. Pablo Torre has a well, 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: he's got an explosive story investigation into Steve Balmer and 325 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: circumventing the salary cap and maybe paying Kawhi Leonard off 326 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: the books. Pablo joins us next Dan Patrick Show. 327 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 328 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 329 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 330 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of a Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 331 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 7: Would mean a lot to have you join us on 332 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 7: our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name 333 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 7: is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's a spin 334 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 7: off of that Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights 335 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 7: on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if you will? 336 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 7: A world will We chat with captains of industry in media, sports, 337 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 7: and more every week Explore some amazing facts about human 338 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 7: nature and more. Listen to the Fifth Hour with Ben 339 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 7: Maller on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you 340 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 7: get your podcasts. 341 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: I come in today and I see the LA Clippers 342 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: are trending, and I go, what first week is September? 343 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: What James Harden shaved his beard? And I don't think 344 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: that's why they're trending. And then I realize they're trending 345 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: for batter reason. Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds out podcasts, 346 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: Metal art media, and the Athletic Contributor. To pardon the interruption, 347 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: all right, summarize your report on the Clippers. Steve Balmer 348 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: and Kawhi Leonard. 349 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 8: Hello, Dan, we got to stop meeting like this. As always, 350 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 8: it's always something when we get together. You may recall 351 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 8: t nineteen, the NBA investigated the signing of Kawhi Leonard 352 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 8: by the Clippers. This was the Uncle Dennis story, him 353 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 8: asking for all the sweeteners, the side deals. This was 354 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 8: the Lakers, the raptors, very mad, lots of teams, very mad. 355 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 8: NBA investigates says this is a cardinal sin. Salary caps 356 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 8: are convention, but they find nothing. Today we have given 357 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 8: something I dare say to anybody who cares about this stuff, 358 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 8: and the stuff here is kind of wild. This is 359 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 8: a story that started because of a company called Aspiration, 360 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 8: which no one really remembers in fairness, but they had 361 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 8: signed some of the most famous people in the world 362 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 8: to be endorsers. Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, Robert Downey Junior, Cindy Crawford, 363 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 8: Cindy Crawford's daughter, all people who endorsed this climate change 364 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 8: company that planted trees to zero out your carbon footprint, 365 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 8: like good guys, only for those same good guys to 366 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 8: have since been embroiled in what has been a concurrent 367 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 8: Department of Justice and SEC investigations that have resulted in 368 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 8: guilty please by one of the co founders of the company, 369 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 8: a prominent Democratic politician and donor named Joe Sandberg, who 370 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 8: happens to have also been a buddy of Steve Bomber 371 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 8: and Steve Bomber. In this story, we establish and report, 372 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 8: using over three thousand documents and seven sources from inside 373 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 8: the company, put in fifty million dollars of his own 374 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 8: money into Aspiration. Very long lined up. I apologize for 375 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 8: taking so long. Here's the punchline. The endorsement deal that 376 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 8: was the biggest that Aspiration signed given all those A 377 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 8: List avengers, happened to be Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars, 378 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 8: more than four times the rest of the celebrity roster combined. 379 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: And the kicker, you. 380 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 8: Might argue, is that he didn't do anything. It was 381 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 8: a no show job, did nothing, wasn't obligated to do anything, 382 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 8: which you can explain if you want, but the point being, 383 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 8: it was a secret deal that no one knew about 384 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 8: until now. 385 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: NBA have anything to say. 386 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 8: Yet, not yet, not yet, I should say, Steve Bomber 387 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 8: and the Clippers. When we asked them for comment, they 388 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 8: said that this was provably false, that they denied it. 389 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 8: They did not know at the time that we had 390 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 8: over three thousand pages of documents and seven sources. I 391 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 8: look forward to improving the falsehoods that they allege. I 392 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 8: can tell you though, from the NBA perspective, what I've 393 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 8: been told this morning is that it's been a bit 394 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 8: of panic over there. I'm told that they did not 395 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 8: know about this deal between Steve Bomber, or at the 396 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 8: very least between Aspiration and Kawhi Leonard. With the influence 397 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 8: of Steve Bomber, according to our reporting, being the driving 398 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 8: force of it. So yeah, it's going to get a 399 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 8: little messy. 400 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: Dan over there, I. 401 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: Think what rule did the Clippers break? 402 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 8: So salary caps or convention is something that the NBA 403 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 8: has decided to in previous statements state very seriously. So 404 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard has only signed max contracts. So the first 405 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 8: one coming off of Toronto, the extension in twenty twenty one. 406 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 8: Is what lines up with the timeline here that we 407 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 8: are explaining the twenty eight million dollars above and beyond 408 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 8: the max deal he signed. He signed another extension just 409 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 8: last year. And so the thing here is, and this 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 8: is I think a bit of the character study. Steve 411 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 8: Bomber is the richest owner in all of sports in 412 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 8: the world. He's the sixth richest man on the planet. 413 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 8: And so if you know anything about how the Clippers 414 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 8: have operated, right the Intuit Dome a building, as he says, 415 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 8: built in his own image for hardcore basketball fans like him, 416 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 8: using personal private money, no taxpayer funds. He is a 417 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 8: guy who's expanded his front office, hired a zillion people. 418 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 8: Because that is uncapped, he can spend all of the 419 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 8: money on that. But the most important thing this hardcore 420 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 8: basketball fan needed, of course, taking over the team from 421 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 8: noted bad guy Donald Sterling is a franchise superstar. And 422 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 8: so the rule alleged to have been broken here is 423 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 8: that cardinal rule. You gotta stay within the salary cap 424 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 8: for your actual players. And seven sources say that was 425 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 8: deliberately what was not done. 426 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: But was there a way that they could They could 427 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: argue that Kawhi Leonard did represent the company. He was 428 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: a name that was attached Like, I'm just looking at 429 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: if I'm the Clippers, how do I get deniability? 430 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard because typically, you know, there's 431 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 8: this funny phrase in courtrooms. You hear like, you know, 432 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 8: the absence of evidence is not evidence. Well, in this case, 433 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 8: he was endorsing a company, and the absence of evidence 434 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 8: is the absence of any endorsement, no tweets, no retweets, 435 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 8: no favorites, no likes, no appearances, no nothing according to 436 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 8: the Internet. According to the sources, we have nothing. And 437 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 8: so the absence of evidence happens to be in this 438 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 8: very narrow but meaningful way, the evidence. And they might say, well, 439 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 8: Steve Bomber didn't know about this. But here is where 440 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 8: I think all of this becomes a bit of an 441 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 8: IQ test, because what I haven't mentioned that we get 442 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 8: to in the story is that Aspiration was not merely 443 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 8: some random company. Aspiration on media day of twenty twenty one, 444 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 8: and you can go to the press conference footage and 445 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 8: find it, they are announced as this founding sponsor of 446 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 8: the Los Angeles Clippers. They are signage everywhere. Back of 447 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 8: your court side seat, says Aspiration Dan. They were going 448 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 8: to get the Jersey Patch. The company collapsed into ruin 449 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 8: and disgrace before they got there, but that was the agreement. 450 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 8: It was announced. They are headlines everywhere you can find them. 451 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 8: You can see the video Steve Bomber right next to 452 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 8: the guy who pled guilty to two counts of wire 453 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 8: fraud just two weeks ago. So you can say, we 454 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 8: didn't know about this, But then the IQ test is 455 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 8: and this is another bit of reporting. Then why And 456 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 8: this is according to the sources who are on tape, 457 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 8: the one source we have who agreed to go on 458 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 8: tape with voice modulation because of the federal investigations that 459 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 8: are ongoing and concurrent in the experience. Uncle Dennis was 460 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 8: calling as the company was declining and unable to pay 461 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 8: its bills, was calling saying pay us. And inside of Aspiration, 462 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 8: what is very clear is that the number one priority, 463 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 8: that is a quote, the number one priority for this 464 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 8: collapsing fake Green Bank, was you gotta pay Kawhi Leonard. 465 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 8: As bankruptcy was on the horizon, as no one could 466 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 8: pay their bills. As no one else was getting paid, 467 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 8: Kawhi was getting paid. And the question I ask you 468 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 8: is why was he priority number one for doing nothing 469 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 8: at a company that could not pay its bills. It 470 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 8: would seem that there was some influence from behind the scenes. 471 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: Pablo Tory, it's Pablo Tory finds out podcast, Metal Art 472 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: Media and the Athletic. Was it? Joe Smith? Timberwolves? What 473 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: was that five first round draft picks that they were docked? 474 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean, if this is all true, I got to 475 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: believe that precedent has been set. 476 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 8: He Bablo, Oh oh yeah, Look, there's a history lesson here, right, 477 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 8: Joe Smith and Glenn Taylor. Glenn Taylor the piece of 478 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 8: paper they wrote off the books number one overall pick, 479 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 8: getting that side deal five picks. Glenn Taylor was suspended. 480 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 8: Kevin McHale, the GM of the team twenty five years 481 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 8: ago at the time, was put on leave. Fines were levied, 482 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 8: millions of dollars were levied. But I would say that 483 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 8: there's a difference here. And Mark Stein tweeted this out 484 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 8: helpfully because I defer to people who've been covering this 485 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 8: stuff even longer than me when it comes to well, 486 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 8: how does this play out? He said, it was staggering 487 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 8: and unprecedented what is being alleged in our reporting, And 488 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 8: so you could argue, at least Stein argues, this is 489 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 8: more than the Joe Smith story, right, This is actually 490 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 8: far more sophisticated and yet stupid at the same time, 491 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 8: given everything that I just gave a long wind up on. 492 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 8: And look, man, Dan, you and I I love by 493 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 8: the way that you care about the stories, because I 494 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 8: don't know if anybody really does, with your level of 495 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 8: prominence in your platform in that way. But how this 496 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 8: sausage gets made behind the scenes with owners and leagues. 497 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 8: Steve Bomber is the richest owner in all sports, and 498 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 8: Adam Silver's boss. Right, So this is not a real 499 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 8: justice system in the NBA. This is a business deal. 500 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 8: They got to strike. How do you punish your own boss? 501 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 8: What are the other bosses, the twenty nine others you have? 502 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 8: What do they have to say about it? It's a 503 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 8: fascinating parlor game what the punishment ends up being. 504 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: And we don't know if those other owners have their 505 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: own little shell game going. I don't know how in 506 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: your reporting if you know you're stumbling upon other owners 507 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: who you know, because people love to talk. Once the 508 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: first you know person gets outed, now all of a sudden, 509 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: it feels like it's safe to out other people. 510 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, the difference here, and by the way, it's funny, 511 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 8: like my tip line has never been more more used 512 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 8: by enemies of Jalen Brunson, right, like a look into 513 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 8: look into that one? 514 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: Right as well as you know James, is there something 515 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: in there with Jalen Brunson. 516 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 8: Well, look how he arrived at the next This is 517 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 8: where I will have to defer to the reporting I 518 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 8: may or may not do on this certainly was interesting, right, Like, Okay, 519 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 8: that's a pretty good deal for the next has some whatever. Anyway, 520 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 8: I don't want to get ahead of myself in terms 521 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 8: of it. 522 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: That's a tease. That's a tease. 523 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 8: It's a bit of a tease. Yeah, I'm showing a 524 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 8: little ankle with you. I always show a little bit 525 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 8: more ankle than I should. But but by the way, subscribe, 526 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 8: like subscribe. 527 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: But but the thing. 528 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 8: About how often this happens, it's a really fascinating question, 529 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 8: because I would argue that it doesn't happen to this 530 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 8: scale and with this level of documentation, which is only 531 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 8: enabled because of the collapse of this fraudulent company. The 532 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 8: other stuff look historically right, I was. I was assuming 533 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 8: because I'm maybe dumb, like you would give a stock 534 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 8: tip or something right like have someone else, you know, 535 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 8: se multiple degrees away. You wouldn't do it through a 536 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 8: company that has its signage on your building. But that's 537 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 8: what our sources say is exactly the thing that happened. 538 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 8: And so in that way, kind of of its own. 539 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 8: As as Stein was alluding. 540 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: To, good to talk to you again. I'll talk to 541 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: you with the Jalen Brunson story. Whenever that comes out, Pablo, 542 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: You'll you'll get you'll get some kneecaff. Thank you that level. Yeah, 543 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: it might be moving to thigh after that, Thank you, Pablo. Pablo. 544 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: Pablo Tory finds out podcast Metal Arc media and the 545 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: athletic and contributor to pardon the interruption, the NBA, you know, 546 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: probably thought it was gonna be a quiet day, quiet week. Hey, 547 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: nothing going on, football season. Hey, let's get our fantasy 548 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: draft going on. Come on, commiss you're gonna be in 549 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: our fantasy league. No, no, wait a minute, what's Pablo 550 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: Tori report? Okay, well, we'll do our fantasy draft later. 551 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: Let's let's circle the wagons here. A lot of sources, 552 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: a lot of that's where you have three thousand pages 553 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: because you know the Clippers might have reacted where it's 554 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: you know, if Pablo calls up to get a comment 555 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: and they go, you know that that story is not true. 556 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: We don't have any comment on stories that aren't true. Well, 557 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: we have three thousand pages of documents. We will issue 558 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: a statement. 559 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: Here. 560 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: Come here. We still don't have any comment, but we 561 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: will issue a statement. 562 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 9: Yes, the NBA has lots of rules printed and otherwise 563 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 9: that you can't gift a player like a percentage of 564 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 9: the franchise or equity, either now or in the future 565 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 9: for players, but people always like, you know, they should 566 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 9: just give blank Lebron or steph three percent of the franchise. 567 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 9: You can't do that. There's many rules against this type 568 00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 9: of stuff. 569 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: Man, Sure, I'd love to. Now if you could interview 570 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: Steve Balmer, or you could interview Kawhi, or interview Adam Silver, 571 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: the commissioner, I would have to interview Steve Balmer. Kahi 572 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: is not going to tell you anything. I mean, even 573 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: when he's in a good mood, he's not really telling anything. 574 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: Great laugh, but that's about it. Adam Silver, I don't 575 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: know what he would say. Steve Ballmer, you could ask 576 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: questions and say, how did we get to this point? 577 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 4: Steve? 578 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin, Yeah, because if you interview Kawhi, why isn't 579 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 10: we like man, my uncle danis set it up. I 580 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 10: just said, all right. It seems like it's very cut 581 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 10: and dry where I don't handle any of this. It's 582 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 10: almost like the show Entourage. Hey, you want to talk 583 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 10: to visit Chase, Now, talk to E talk to Ari. 584 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 10: I'm just a movie. 585 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Star, Yes, Tom. 586 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: Adam Silm is very engaging with you, but ultimately hit up. 587 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 11: They've got to drop to commissioner's beak and really be 588 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 11: careful and chooses words, Giff, especially if there's. 589 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: An ongoing any response from the NBA. We have not 590 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: heard Okay, Yeah, probably not going to hear the Clippers. Yeah, 591 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: probably not going to hear anything. All right, last call 592 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow, 593 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: This day in sports history, all of that coming up next. 594 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 595 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 596 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 597 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: listen live show. 598 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Hey Otani hit his one hundredth home run as a Dodger. 599 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: It was a loss to the Pirates. He reached one 600 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: hundred home runs in two hundred and ninety four games, 601 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: beating the franchise record of three ninety nine by Gary Sheffield. 602 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: Only two players have reached one hundred home runs with 603 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: a single team faster than Otani did with the Dodgers, 604 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: Mark McGuire, and that was with the Cardinals, Babe Ruth 605 00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: with the Yankees. Stat of the Day brought to you 606 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: by the great folks at Benini, the official trading cards 607 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: of the Dan Patrick Show. My guy Nolan McClain. Once 608 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: again he's rolling for the Mets. He is the first 609 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: pitcher to win his first four career starts while allowing 610 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: two runs or less in each start since two thousand 611 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: and six, Jared Weaver did so for the Angels. All right, 612 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: last call for phone call? Yes, well, it's a funny thing. 613 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 9: You've been mentioning your guy Nolan McLain around the hallways, 614 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 9: and whenever you do it, we do the bad guy 615 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 9: from Diehard, mister McClain, Miss week, I'll just do that 616 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 9: under our breath, mister McLean. 617 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: No compliance, Shoot the glass, hands, shoot the glass. 618 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 4: Good stuff. 619 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: Curtis in Illinois, Hi, Curtis, thanks for holding what's on 620 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: your mind today? 621 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 12: More DP A couple quick things story this morning. First, 622 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 12: I think that caller earlier maybe a little overzealous on 623 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 12: the same success considering they have the team version of 624 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 12: Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. And then second is how can 625 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 12: the Packers have Mica passive physical while he has a 626 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 12: back issue that may require him to have an epidural 627 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 12: on Sunday? Like, would there be any verbiage in his 628 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 12: contract for any kind of pre existing injury that would 629 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 12: nullify any of his guarantees? 630 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm you know. I think leading up 631 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: to it, nobody was really adding credence to this back injury. 632 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, okay, wink wink, he's got a back injury. 633 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: Therefore he can't practice. Now, all of a sudden, you 634 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: hear that he might need an epidural. Sounds a little 635 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: more serious to me, but I don't know what the 636 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: You know, the packers don't want to, you know, avoid 637 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: this deal, but I don't know if it has any 638 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: impact on this contract. But thank you, Curtis Sean in 639 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: Daytona Beach. Hi, Sean, what's on your mind? 640 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: Dan? 641 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 5: Thanks for calling me back six foot one point eighty 642 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 5: five point two this morning. Okay, great stuff this morning, 643 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 5: especially when you catch up with the playmaker. And speaking 644 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 5: of that, you know, we're on the eve of the 645 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 5: NFL season. Fans want hope, and they think you are 646 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 5: talking trash on their teams. But we are also damned 647 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 5: on the eve of the eve of the first meat 648 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 5: Friday of the NFL season. And I wouldn't damn if 649 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 5: you're going to stand around and talk crap on mayo 650 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 5: and onions. I want some potatoes out, I want some coleslaw. 651 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 5: I don't know what Chef Dylan has on the menu, 652 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 5: but Polly backed me up. That is classic tailgate paper plate. Stup, Dan, 653 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 5: you can't be talking it meat Friday as a team game. 654 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 6: It's about the sides. 655 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: We all play together here. 656 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 5: It's not just about the meat. 657 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean. I'll take that under advisement. 658 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 9: Yes, Paul, coleslaw is polarizing. People throw that topic out 659 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 9: there and people get heated on either side. There there's 660 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 9: no middle ground on coleslaw. 661 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 662 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: Even if you take the mayo out, it doesn't matter. 663 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't want it. 664 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 9: It ceases to to be coleslack. 665 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: Well, Dylan said, I made you some cole sloan without mayonnaise. Yeah, guest, what. 666 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 11: About macaroni souad? 667 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 4: That's always fun. I know that's. 668 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: Also potato salad. Macaroni salad. No, they're they're in the 669 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: same family. No, the answer is no. 670 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 3: Uh. 671 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: John in Minnesota, Hi John, what's on your mind today? 672 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 6: Take my call? You gotta go to Porkys in Memphis. 673 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 6: You'll like their cold flock. Okay, sod You guys like 674 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 6: the current state of college football because, like, for instance, 675 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 6: Alabama just lost, but it's like who cares? Like you 676 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 6: didn't beat a Derrick Henry Alabama with Nick Saban, Like 677 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 6: I just like it's the wild Wow. Last it's just 678 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 6: chaos a couple of years. 679 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: There's nothing I can do about it. Okay, I've tried 680 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 2: to be a lifeguard for college football and it doesn't matter. 681 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: I've tried to give even current coaches or one retired 682 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: coach I heads up on exactly what was happening, and nobody. 683 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: These coaches did not believe me years ago and I said, man, 684 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: they're going to be spending money. And then once again 685 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: this is now a retired coach who said, oh yeah, 686 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 2: were they gonna give the alignment pizza? And I said, 687 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: you you should know, like they're gonna build their offensive 688 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: and defensive lines. But if you don't have salary camps, 689 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: there's still gonna be people getting paid illegally nil all 690 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: of that. It's big business. That's what you always have 691 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: to come back to. This is not the purity, the sanctity, 692 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: the pomp and circumstance of college football. It is business 693 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: traded as such. Yeah. 694 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 13: See, the thing that I don't understand is funny, Like 695 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 13: I think people were just always going to react negatively 696 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 13: to whatever happened in college athletics because of this. But 697 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 13: the initial reaction to NIL was well, the rich are 698 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 13: just going to keep getting richer, and now little schools 699 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 13: never have a chance. And now what we're here seeing is, well, 700 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 13: what the heck, Alabama's not even good anymore. And I 701 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 13: also thinks we got to get rid of this. It's 702 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 13: the exact opposite of what everybody was worried about leading 703 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 13: into it. 704 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 14: Yeah, ro I, now great, We're never going to be 705 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 14: able to compete with Alabama now their pockets are too deep. 706 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 14: And instead what happened is the little schools actually do 707 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 14: have more of a chance now. And people don't like 708 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 14: that either, Sali, Which is it? 709 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: It's in the eye of the beholders, open to interpretation 710 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: of Hey, I love it because I am an Arizona 711 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: State fan or a Boise State fan, then you probably 712 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: love today's of college football. The blue bloods are like, 713 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: wait a minute here, I thought we had the unfair advantage. 714 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 2: What's wrong with this sport? We're supposed to be, you know, 715 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 2: getting all of these players. I mean, keep in mind Oklahoma, Nebraska, 716 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: they would over recruit so these other you know, quarterbacks 717 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: and running backs and wide receivers, defensive linemen didn't go 718 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 2: to other schools. 719 00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 720 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 13: See, yeah, I forget who it was that said it, 721 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 13: but it might have been somebody that we had on 722 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 13: the show. But they were talking about how the problem 723 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 13: is that these other schools like the Alabama's and the 724 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 13: Power of House schools just aren't as deep as they 725 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 13: were because kids are getting money and going to actually 726 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 13: play real minutes at other schools rather than sitting behind 727 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 13: for two, you know, a year or two behind. Well, 728 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 13: I got Dereck Henry ahead of me, and then I 729 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 13: got so and so, but then in you know, a 730 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 13: year or two, it's going to be my turn. Instead, 731 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 13: they could just take a million dollars and go play 732 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 13: somewhere else right now. 733 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: Well, the you had like three or four running backs 734 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: that we're all going to play in the NFL, and 735 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: they're like jets lined up at LAX ready to take off, 736 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: and they got to wait their turn. Now it's like, uh, 737 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: I'm out of here? What Yeah? Yeah, Marvin, Yeah. 738 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 10: My favorite thing about Alabama during the Nick Saving years was, Hey, 739 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 10: Alvin Kamier your fifth string You're not going to play 740 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 10: Alvin Kamire is your fifth string guy? Or even like 741 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 10: Roocher's talking about the you Frank Gore couldn't get on 742 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 10: the field until his senior year, cause you just had 743 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 10: Clinton Portis and Willis mcgahey and j Davenport. 744 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: Ahead of them. You know, I know, Ah, the old days. 745 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: Darn it, oh miss we missed the old days. Tomorrow 746 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 2: the fifth Annual Hot Take Draft. 747 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 4: Let's go. 748 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 2: Wow, we got to bring back some hot takes from 749 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: a year ago. Now, these are things that are in 750 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: the realm of possibilities, but it's it's pretty wild though. 751 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: We make some you know, the hotter the take, the better, 752 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 2: the better the content. We do have the hot take 753 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 2: now chain that we'll be bringing out. That's back my 754 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 2: Seaton's desk. This day in sports history, Haull. 755 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 9: Just a couple for you, Dan. Eighteen ninety five, the 756 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 9: first pro football game played in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. The Latrobe 757 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 9: YMCA took it to Jeannette Athletic Club twelve zero. Jeanette 758 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 9: disbanded after that year out of embarrassment. 759 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: They could even show their faces embarrassing. 760 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 9: Nineteen seventy Vince Lombardi died of cancer at only age 761 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 9: fifty seven. I did not realize he was that young. Wow, 762 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 9: that kind of hits you. Two thousand and one, Bud 763 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 9: Smith of the Cardinals, the sixteenth pageor league rookie to 764 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 9: throw a no hitter. It was only his eleventh career start. 765 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that doing Sports Center? All right, it was 766 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: a fun show, quick show. Crammed a lot in there, 767 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, Ron Jaworski on the program tomorrow. Uh, Todd, 768 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: what did you learn today? 769 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 11: On a populatory story that Kawhi got a no show 770 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 11: drop from Steve Baumber to circumvent the NBA side cap. 771 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 11: You suggest he already has that job no showing on 772 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 11: the court for the Clippers slam Seaton? 773 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 2: What did you learn today? Plot is putting in work? 774 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: Yes he is, Yes he is. That's where it's like, 775 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: you know, it used to be of sixty minutes in 776 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: Mike Wallace. Now it's Pablo Torre. It's like he's doing 777 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,959 Speaker 2: a deep dive. Marvin Jalen Probably show the Knicks, Paul, 778 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: what did you learn today? 779 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 9: Is he day unexpectedly at the NBA offices? 780 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: How about you? Todd? Can you tell me what I 781 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: learned today? 782 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 11: You know what we all learned? DraftKings is not working 783 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 11: on ghost led promotion, Dylan. Where if you miss your 784 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 11: parlay by just one you can recoup some Money. 785 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: Nice the Gambling Podcast. We're gonna tape that after the 786 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: show today because Dylan wants to go to the Eagles 787 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: game tomorrow, so we'll do that today. Shane, Irving, Bad, Larry, 788 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: and Dylan. Thanks for joining us. We'll try to do 789 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 2: better tomorrow.