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Speaker 1: I'm Michael Knowles. I'm just seeing now that that article

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Speaker 1: I think you would be perfectly justified in making those claims.

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Speaker 1: way of getting the vaccines. But that federal solution Donald J.

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Speaker 1: part of the flip flop. Look a'micron maybe, and I

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, Um that that is often how

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Speaker 1: admitted this. Rachelle Wilenski, head of the CDC, Doctor Fauci,

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Speaker 1: us were censored for that. Episodes of my show over

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Speaker 1: by by big tech or others. Well, Michael, I gotta

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Speaker 1: objectively be misinformation because you just said that you hate

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Speaker 1: you love to say I told you so. Guilty is charged?

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Speaker 1: You got me, got me absolutely. Look, it is utter

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Speaker 1: and ridiculous hypocrisy. It's it's big tech is so shameless

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Speaker 1: said that the that the evidence suggested that the virus

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Speaker 1: heavily validated publicly. It's probably the fair fair way to

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Speaker 1: the absolute arrogance of we're going to silence any dissenting

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Speaker 1: say they shouldn't have been Silence Hunter Biden Hunter Biden laptop.

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Speaker 1: The New York Post was blocked by big tech for

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing this over and over again. You know,

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Speaker 1: the vaccine. That's insane. If you disagree with what the

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Speaker 1: Big brother sensors. It's just it's a level of hubrists

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Speaker 1: this does raise I guess what happens next type question

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Speaker 1: for instance, a judge granting a stay against the vaccine

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Speaker 1: mandate for some Navy seals. Just use one one example.

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Speaker 1: you think that is going to have any effect on

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Speaker 1: these outcomes in the court cases, or the Seals going

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Speaker 1: to be able to avoid taking the fauci auchie on

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Speaker 1: the Seals case, I actually I am involved in that case.

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Speaker 1: eight House members and we filed an amicus brief supporting

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Speaker 1: the Navy Seals and the Federal District Court and urging

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Speaker 1: Biden is trying to fire Navy Seals. These are heroes

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Speaker 1: who've gone through incredible training. Look, Michael, you and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't last twenty minutes in Bud's training. We might not

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Speaker 1: guys are our heroic warriors, and Biden just wants to

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Speaker 1: fire them because they won't submit to his illegal vaccine mandate.

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Speaker 1: And so a federal district court in Texas issue to

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Speaker 1: issue to stay preventing them from being fired. The next

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Speaker 1: Circuit of that stay. It will depend to some extent

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Speaker 1: But I think that is a big win that we

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Speaker 1: Now it's DC obviously is its own federal district, but

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Speaker 1: So what has happened is that the d City Council

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Speaker 1: That it ought to be up to parents whether or

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Speaker 1: but the local school board has no right to force

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Speaker 1: We have As I mentioned earlier, we have some great questions.

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Speaker 1: Michael arm Wrestle bring the Cactus to make a guest

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Speaker 1: because I control the questions, Senator, because I'm the gateway

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Speaker 1: to these questions, I'm going to throw a question from

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Speaker 1: the rest of these questions, my question is, have you

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Speaker 1: been following the Elizabeth Fulmes trial? And you know, Pharnos,

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Speaker 1: this is the biggest fraud I think that's been perpetuated,

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Speaker 1: the biggest medical fraud that's been perpetuated in at least

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Speaker 1: my lifetime as long as I can remember. She's been

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Speaker 1: on trial for dozens or over a dozen counts defrauding

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Speaker 1: investors and patients, and she was found guilty of about

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Speaker 1: half of them, not guilty on a few, and the

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Speaker 1: jury could not come to a conclusion. They were deadlocked

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Speaker 1: on several of those counts. As a lawyer, as an

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Speaker 1: attorne yourself, what do you make of this? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been stunning. I'm gonna get to your question.

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Speaker 1: Let me first of all say that that that that

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Speaker 1: viewers select, Uh, Michael, can't alter that and make it

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Speaker 1: thumb wrestling. It's it's got to be real and and

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Speaker 1: and and throw down with an absolute result. This is

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Speaker 1: what you go up against a Harvard trained lawyer and

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Speaker 1: all your tricks go out the window. All right, fair enough?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, look, the Elizabeth Holmes verdict is and and

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Speaker 1: the trial and the whole scandal is is astonishing. You

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Speaker 1: look at tharn Nos Elizabeth Holmes, she seems like a

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Speaker 1: character invented in Hollywood, um, you know, with with a

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Speaker 1: husky voice and the black turtlenecks, and and the obsession

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Speaker 1: with Steve Jobs that she wanted to be Steve Jobs

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Speaker 1: in a way that that that frankly is a little

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Speaker 1: glen cut close, boil your rabbit in a pot, obsessive.

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Speaker 1: But you look at the Parnos, you know, it became

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Speaker 1: a billion dollar company. It raised money from all over

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Speaker 1: the place. It brought in, you know, a blue chip

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Speaker 1: board and board of advisors, including you know, Henry Kissinger,

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Speaker 1: including George Schultz. I mean, it was it was an

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Speaker 1: incredible pantheon. Jim Mattis, former Secretary of Defense, was was

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Speaker 1: was on the board of advisors. And the whole thing

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Speaker 1: was a common The whole thing was a croc. She

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Speaker 1: claimed that they had this technology, these machines that you

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Speaker 1: could take one tiny pinprick of blood from your finger

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Speaker 1: you have all these diseases. And do you know, you

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Speaker 1: go to the doctor and they take blood, they stick

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Speaker 1: the thing in and they do one test tube after

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Speaker 1: another after another after another. She said, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: we can't get rid of all of that and do

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Speaker 1: just one little drop of blood. And she had you know,

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Speaker 1: major drug stores, Walmartin and I think CBS and Walgreens

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Speaker 1: the whole thing was a croc. It didn't work. The

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Speaker 1: the these boxes that were allegedly the machines chewing on it,

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Speaker 1: they didn't do it, and they just kept digging and

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Speaker 1: digging and digging, and so what happened is we just

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Speaker 1: saw the conclusion of the federal trial. So she was

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Speaker 1: charged with criminal fraud, with defrauding people, with lying about

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Speaker 1: the results of their technology, and just just you know,

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Speaker 1: basically being a crook um. You know, it's not not

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Speaker 1: much different than than made off and a Ponzi scheme.

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Speaker 1: It's raising money and lying to investors and engaging criminal fraud.

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Speaker 1: There were eleven counts brought against her of different specific

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Speaker 1: Northern District of California. The jury convicted her and four

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Speaker 1: evidence and this was a multi week is a long trial.

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Speaker 1: Four of the counts they said she's not guilty of,

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Speaker 1: So those counts are gone. Four of them they convicted her,

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Speaker 1: and then the three of the counts they deadlocked, so

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Speaker 1: the jury couldn't agree those three counts. They'll likely be

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Speaker 1: a mistrial on those counts. If the jury deadlocks, you

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Speaker 1: the four counts on which she was convicted are serious,

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Speaker 1: and potentially the maximum she could be sentenced to is

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Speaker 1: eighty years in prison. Each of those four counts has

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Speaker 1: very unlikely outcome. It's unlikely that the sentences will be consecutive,

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Speaker 1: and under the sentencing guidelines, I think most of the

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Speaker 1: analysts who have dug into this are predicting a sentence

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Speaker 1: she will serve, in all likelihood, real and meaningful prison time,

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Speaker 1: but but not an eighty year sentence. And I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a documentary that's a fabulous documentary. I

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Speaker 1: recommend it that that I've I've watched, and they're making

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Speaker 1: a movie where Jennifer Lawrence is playing her, and I

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Speaker 1: mean it, holy cow, this this stuff is wild. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if Jennifer Lawrence will have

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Speaker 1: like a crossbow and like shoot Henry Kissinger in a

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Speaker 1: Hunger Games reducts, which which which I think be a

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Speaker 1: much more fun movie if you started, you know, mixing genres.

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Speaker 1: But but but I'll probably watch the movie too, right,

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Speaker 1: It's it's so insane. I read the book that was

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Speaker 1: published by the journalist who actually exposed the fraud from

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Speaker 1: the beginning. I think it's called Bad Blood, and it

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Speaker 1: truly is insane. The most insane part is that she

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Speaker 1: knew pretty much from the get go what she was doing.

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Speaker 1: She knew that this did not work and that there

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Speaker 1: part that's just so unbelievable. It's not like this technology

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Speaker 1: was being developed and it just didn't end up working out.

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Speaker 1: And you know, she led people on a little bit

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Speaker 1: further than she should know. She knew from the get

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Speaker 1: still raised all this money. And like you said, her

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Speaker 1: behavior about Steve Jobs is so sociopathic. You have to

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Speaker 1: wonder if, even if she gets a year or two

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Speaker 1: in prison, if this is justice given what she did. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I could probably talk about this. I've been following the

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Speaker 1: story for years now. I could probably talk about this

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Speaker 1: to some questions from the verdict plus community because we

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Speaker 1: have some really good ones. We have some really good ones,

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Speaker 1: and the first one is from tm Ericson. Senator tm

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Speaker 1: Erickson asked, what are the top ten legislative priorities that

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Speaker 1: we should expect from a GOP Congress in twenty twenty three. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that is a good question. So some of it depends

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Speaker 1: on will we see a Republican House or House and Senate.

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Speaker 1: And we've talked before. I'll handicap the odds of our

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Speaker 1: take in the House at about ninety ten. I think

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Speaker 1: it's extremely likely. The Senate's more of a coin flip.

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Speaker 1: I think it's about fifty fifty. UM. I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a really good year, but it's but

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Speaker 1: it's a bad map. There are a lot more vulnerable

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Speaker 1: Republican seats on the ballot than there are vulnerable Democrat seats.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I think there's a very real possibility

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Speaker 1: we come into twenty three with both a House and Senate. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think the top priorities should be number one. Focusing

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Speaker 1: on jobs, focusing on reducing the burdens on job creators,

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Speaker 1: on getting people back back to work. UM. I think

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Speaker 1: the focus should also be on reigning in the abuse

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Speaker 1: of power from President Biden, and and that that means

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Speaker 1: taking on the crisis of the border and securing the border.

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Speaker 1: We ought to be passing bill after bill after bill

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Speaker 1: and forcing Biden to veto forcing Biden to vito common

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Speaker 1: sense legislation. UH. That actually responds to the overwhelming priorities

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Speaker 1: of the country, forcing Biden to veto legislation on the boarder. Now,

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Speaker 1: this actually keys up with a question Michael asked at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the pot He said, are the Democrats

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Speaker 1: going to end the filibuster? I don't know. I hope

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Speaker 1: that they don't. If they do, and Republicans then win

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, we'll be able to pass bill

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Speaker 1: after bill after bill and force Biden either to veto

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Speaker 1: them or sign them. If they don't end the filibuster,

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Speaker 1: the House will be able to pass them, and we

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Speaker 1: filibuster them or have Biden veto them. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there is a significant likelihood that we see big, major

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Speaker 1: four and becoming law, because anything good Biden will veto

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Speaker 1: a major tax cuts implifying what I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: as a simple flat tax abolish the IRS. Well, Biden

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Speaker 1: wants to put tens of millions of dollars more into

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Speaker 1: the IRS and hire thousands of IRS agents to harass

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Speaker 1: to agree with tax simplification. He's not going to agree

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Speaker 1: with border security. He's not going to agree with a

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Speaker 1: lot of common sense legislation. But we ought to tee

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Speaker 1: it up one after the other after the other. We

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Speaker 1: also ought to engage in very real oversight and so

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Speaker 1: holding hearings on the abuses of power from the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: particularly because if and when Republicans take the majority, I

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Speaker 1: expect the Biden White House to shift their focus even

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Speaker 1: the executive power, and so Congress needs to use our

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Speaker 1: question if and when we get a Republican president elected

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, when we have a president who

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Speaker 1: can sign legislation in a law. But even if we

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Speaker 1: win in November, which I think we're going to, we're

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Speaker 1: still going to be battling an incredibly partisan and incredibly

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Speaker 1: lawless White House. And Michael, let me narrow this question

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Speaker 1: for you. So the question was top ten. But as

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Speaker 1: a voter, which obviously is different than an elected official

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Speaker 1: in Congress, as the senator is. As a voter, if

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Speaker 1: there's one thing that you want Republicans, if we do

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Speaker 1: have the majority in both houses but are in opposition,

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Speaker 1: of course to the Biden White House, what do you

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Speaker 1: want to see from a Republican controlled Congress. Well, you know, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: as the Senator pointed out, we're just going to be

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Speaker 1: Republican Senate. So you'd say, first thing, you've got to

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Speaker 1: stop the insane illegal immigration, which we've talked about on

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Speaker 1: this episode and on many episodes of this podcast. Two

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Speaker 1: million four nationals pouring over the border illegally is insane,

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Speaker 1: and you cannot possibly remain a country if you don't

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Speaker 1: even have the basic borders to stop millions of foreigners

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Speaker 1: from illegally entering into your country. But then something that

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Speaker 1: I think you are seeing from some conservatives who understand

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Speaker 1: what time it is, and what you're seeing a lot

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Speaker 1: of conservative voters calling for is for Republicans to wield

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Speaker 1: the legitimate political power that they have, whether that means

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Speaker 1: going in and telling schools that they can't teach crazy

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Speaker 1: going in and telling what corporations that they can't silence

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Speaker 1: Americans that they can't silence in some cases, duly elected representatives,

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Speaker 1: or even over the past year, the duly elected sitting

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Speaker 1: president of the United States. For a long time, there

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Speaker 1: was this idea that the only threat came from big government.

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Speaker 1: And big government does pose a threat, but big corporation

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Speaker 1: poses a threat too, big culture poses a threat to

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Speaker 1: big tech poses a threat too. And so I think

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Speaker 1: that serious conservatives and serious Republicans are willing to go

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Speaker 1: in and actually wield legitimate power so that we don't

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Speaker 1: just seed the whole culture to the left. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not just flattering the host of this show here, but

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Speaker 1: you know, Senator Cruz has done that in the US Senate.

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Speaker 1: There have been a handful of governors and a handful

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Speaker 1: of lower level of Republican politicians too, But I know

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Speaker 1: that is one area where the voters are really calling

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Speaker 1: for it, and unfortunately the GOP establishment sometimes seems to

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Speaker 1: not want to actually do anything with the power that

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Speaker 1: the people give them. Well, and Michael, let me jump

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Speaker 1: in on that also to say, last week we saw

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Speaker 1: a major threshold, which is that Twitter banned a sitting

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Speaker 1: member of Congress, Marjorie Taylor Green. Now, look, you may

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Speaker 1: not agree with her, you may disagree with what she says,

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Speaker 1: but it's they've already banned the former president of the

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Speaker 1: United States, which is astonishing and an abuse of power.

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Speaker 1: They're now saying a sitting, currently elected member of Congress

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Speaker 1: they're going to silence. And mind you, they're not silencing

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Speaker 1: AOC who says we all want a dater that they're

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Speaker 1: not silencing Ilan Omar, who is rapidly anti Israel and

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Speaker 1: spewing far too often hateful sentiments online. They're not silencing

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Speaker 1: represented to leave. They're silencing, once again, an elected official

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Speaker 1: they disagree with. If you disagree with an elected official,

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Speaker 1: say why they're wrong. Don't abuse your monopoly power. To

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Speaker 1: silence them, and I think big Tech is going to

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Speaker 1: get worse and worse and worse, and sadly, I think

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Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time before they come after

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Speaker 1: verdict and they you know, they they are going to

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Speaker 1: The more they get away with silencing people they disagree with,

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Speaker 1: they're moving the Overton window so that it is soon

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Speaker 1: going to be maybe the only people you can listen to.

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Speaker 1: They're willing to band Trump, They're willing to ban Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 1: They're willing to ban Marjorie Taylor Green, and it makes

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Speaker 1: you wonder who's next. Because the more they get away

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Speaker 1: with no consequences, the worst it's going to get. That's

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Speaker 1: why I think it's important. The one thing a Republican

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Speaker 1: Congress can do and can do effectively even with a

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Speaker 1: Democrat controlling the White House is oversights at accountability. And

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Speaker 1: I think the American people there's not only an appetite

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Speaker 1: for that, it's a necessity. It's a necessity when we

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Speaker 1: have what we're facing in the radical left. So, Senator,

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Speaker 1: the next question is from Alex Pinckney, and this is

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Speaker 1: a question. This is a very practical question. It's not

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Speaker 1: a policy question, but because you're a lawyer specifically, Alex asks,

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Speaker 1: I'm considering going to law school here in Minnesota, but

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Speaker 1: they have diversity, equity at inclusion, so I fear they

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Speaker 1: are going to have a contorted view of the Constitution

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Speaker 1: and what our founding fathers believed philosophically. Which law school

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Speaker 1: do you recommend? So that's a very good question. I

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Speaker 1: think if you're going in Minnesota, the odds are almost

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Speaker 1: one hundred sent they're going to have a distorted leftist view.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's not just Minnesota, it's almost every

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Speaker 1: state in the Union. The sad state of the legal academy,

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Speaker 1: like universities across the country, is they're almost overwhelmingly hard left.

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Speaker 1: You know, my general view on colleges, but especially on

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Speaker 1: get into. That in many ways, what you're purchasing as

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Speaker 1: a credential when you go, look at your responsibility to

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Speaker 1: have a firm foundation, to develop, to learn, to to

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Speaker 1: to study, and not just accept propaganda from professors. And

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Speaker 1: that's true, it just been any place you go. But

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Speaker 1: I do think particularly for law school. You know, lawyers

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Speaker 1: are weird, weird in many respects, but one of the respects.

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Speaker 1: And that's weird is you'll have a seventy year old

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Speaker 1: lawyer who if you look at the firm bio, it

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Speaker 1: will prominently state where they went to college in law school.

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Speaker 1: Like it. It's a very odd they don't, you know,

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Speaker 1: often as prominent as what they've done for the last

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Speaker 1: fifty years. And you contrast that to say, someone in business.

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Speaker 1: You know, Elon Musk, I don't even know where Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk we went to school. Who cares? The guy's got

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Speaker 1: to get zillion dollars and has done amazing things in

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Speaker 1: business and he's got obvious results, so you know who

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Speaker 1: cares where he went to school? Lawyers? I guess part

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Speaker 1: of it is because many people can't make their own

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Speaker 1: determination of the quality of their services. They rely on

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Speaker 1: proxies instead. You know, if you're CEO of a big

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Speaker 1: company and the company's printing money, that's objective and simple,

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Speaker 1: and if you're not Elizabeth Holmes and engaged in fraud,

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Speaker 1: the numbers are clear and transparent. Lawyers, there's an odd

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Speaker 1: academic snobbery that is bizarre and kind of stupid. But

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Speaker 1: that being said, for a young person thinking about going

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Speaker 1: to the best school you can get into and then

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Speaker 1: take the time you know, read Justice Scalia, read Clarence

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Speaker 1: Thomas read, Robert Borke read Conservatives Learn. But you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go out of the way to learn on

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Speaker 1: your own. The other side of the story, because the

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Speaker 1: professor's just about everywhere are a train wreck. I think

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Speaker 1: that's correct. That's true sadly for undergraduate two that most

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Speaker 1: has to be done independently. That was even true for

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Speaker 1: my undergraduate majoring in political science. Most of what I

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Speaker 1: learned about the founding of our country and political philosophy

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Speaker 1: and the history of the world and as it pertains

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Speaker 1: to politics, and as it pertains to our country was

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Speaker 1: based on my own independent study, not necessarily what I

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Speaker 1: I think that sound advice. If anybody wants to ask

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Speaker 1: verdict with Ted Cruise dot com, slash plus. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to all of our wonderful friends for listening. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to all of our wonderful critics for your sexual frustrations.

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