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Speaker 1: it's Texans All Excess, presented by Metris Firn. What's everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome me through a Monday issue of Texas All Access

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Speaker 1: from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John

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Speaker 1: Harris Football Al sitha reporter is so glad to be

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Speaker 1: with you after a win? Oh, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: sire relief joy. It was kind of all that coming

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Speaker 1: going into the buye. And I said this to Mark

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Speaker 1: throwing questions as Spencer, and I threw him one about

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Speaker 1: what this team is through five weeks. I think there's

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me. The rankings in terms of teams

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Speaker 1: forth first down to keep a drive alive and ultimately

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Speaker 1: it was to go ahead drive the kid the kick

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Speaker 1: returned by Jason Rodgers, who kind of swung the momentum

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Speaker 1: in the favor of the Coups, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Carter Keyshawn Carter stepped up big in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter on that last drive and ultimately seal the

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Speaker 1: deal with a touchdown catch. But it was one of

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Speaker 1: those games that you just never could see it coming

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Speaker 1: because they look so flat for so long and then

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Speaker 1: usually the cases, the other team just goes ahead and

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Speaker 1: kicks you to sleep. Well, they hung around just enough

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Speaker 1: nineteen points with in the fourth quarter to where they

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Speaker 1: kept themselves positioned that if they just started to play

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I think the problem is they need

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Speaker 1: to get out of the huddle more and attack. They

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Speaker 1: were attacking the final drive in the final couple of

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Speaker 1: drives of that game. Whereas they're huddled up, break the huddle,

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Speaker 1: go and read the MICUs. Sometimes you just got to

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Speaker 1: go play football. That's what they're built to do, and

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Speaker 1: that's what they need to do going forward. It showed

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Speaker 1: on the final couple of drives of the game. Look,

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Speaker 1: you guys played this game. Both of you guys for both.

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Speaker 1: To you guys, if you're on defense, what do you

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Speaker 1: not want to see? You don't want to see no huddle?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? Well? You don't want to see

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Speaker 1: no huddle? Right, dre am I right. If you're at defense,

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Speaker 1: go ahead huddle up. That way we could see your personnel.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about how we're going to handle whatever

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Speaker 1: it's coming at us. No huddle. It's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: where are you supposed to be. I'm supposed to be

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Speaker 1: over here? Whoop, big player? And I said it yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said it yesterday. During the game, the Jags are

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Speaker 1: seven Texans didn't sew. They are at the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage and the Jaguars are still running people on the

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Speaker 1: field and they're got They have a run called to

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Speaker 1: where the guy running on the field is about to

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Speaker 1: get down and align himself. He's still halfway there. Staff

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Speaker 1: to football, what are you waiting on him for? You

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Speaker 1: have a run play called why are you waiting on

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Speaker 1: him to go? Get sick? That might be something. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me. So so you you you flip

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Speaker 1: it around and you're to your point mark. You don't

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Speaker 1: you're tired. You're being rushing the passer down after down.

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Speaker 1: Now you have no path for us because you're exhausted.

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Speaker 1: You can't substitute because we're not substituting. And that's what

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Speaker 1: the Cougars have been built to do the last few

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Speaker 1: years and under coach Holderson at that. So, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: want to run the football more. They want to break

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Speaker 1: off from the air raid principles a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: they're called calls for time or time for change in

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Speaker 1: a game to where if this is working less well

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Speaker 1: with this and get some points and figure this thing

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Speaker 1: out later. But that was at the right time they

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Speaker 1: went to it. It worked. I just think that I'd

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Speaker 1: love I'd love to see a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: that if you can go no huddle and mix in

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Speaker 1: like sub formation quirks like unbalanced or a tackle over

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Speaker 1: or something like that. As you're going to no huddle

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Speaker 1: and then throwing some motion with that, you just I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, as a safety, you're trying to sit back

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Speaker 1: there and figure it all out. No, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to no huddle, you're like, wait a second tackle. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's going so fast, you're gonna get a big play.

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Speaker 1: Offensively just because they're gonna break down. I'm not really

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Speaker 1: even talking about just tempo where you're just you know,

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Speaker 1: hyper speed, you're just keeping the same person there along

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Speaker 1: the floor where they can't substitute and you're just running

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Speaker 1: play and they defenses cannot stand it. Wow. All right, Dre,

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Speaker 1: what do you have this week? Going up to SMU?

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Speaker 1: I got SMU and Navy on Friday night, and then

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Speaker 1: obviously with a bye week, I can ease my way

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Speaker 1: back into Houston and have a little time off. So

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that and looking forward to seeing the

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Speaker 1: Naval Academy they won big this past week, and then

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Speaker 1: SMU they will run some tempo. I'll get the tempo

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Speaker 1: on their side. Dre's gonna see one of the better

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Speaker 1: receivers in the country, Rashi Rice. Unbelievable speed and athleticism.

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Speaker 1: He is going to be a name to watch as

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Speaker 1: we get towards the twenty twenty three NFL Draft Folk Show. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Rushi Rice from SMU. All right, we get back Spencer Tillman.

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Speaker 1: We get a little existential with Spencer next right here

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Speaker 1: in Texas Access. Stay tuned for more of the Houston

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Speaker 1: Houston dot com. Also a guy who loves Houston is

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Speaker 1: Spencer Tillman. Spence set down to talk with Mark and I.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we started with him the exact same way

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Speaker 1: we started with Dre. You gotta tell us about this

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Speaker 1: running back Damian, here's your thoughts. He's a ball of

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Speaker 1: knives running at you. Man, I mean, the guy is

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Speaker 1: so tough to tackle. He runs with great aggression, all

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Speaker 1: the cliche things you're here to try to describe it back.

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Speaker 1: But I think those unique skill sets that sets him

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Speaker 1: apart is his suddenness and his ability to run violently.

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Speaker 1: And again I just use that descriptor. He's like a

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Speaker 1: ball of knives. He makes it so difficult for a

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Speaker 1: defender to tackle him, and you've got to be mindful

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Speaker 1: because he'll stiff arm you, he'll pup, he'll explode in

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Speaker 1: your chest. He'll just do things that makes a single

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Speaker 1: defender's job so tough. That's the reason why appears like

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Speaker 1: and he literally is running through several defenders on plays

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Speaker 1: and man, it was pleasant to watch. And again, I

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Speaker 1: don't want anybody to construe what I'm saying. I've not

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Speaker 1: seen anybody impact tacklers the way he does since Walter Payton.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just he runs to me in that knifeing,

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Speaker 1: kind of explosive, difficult way to attack like Walter did.

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Speaker 1: And so he's young, long way to go, but if

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Speaker 1: he stays healthy, manages continues to perform at this high level,

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Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things to cover a

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Speaker 1: multitude of sins. As this ten team continues to grow

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Speaker 1: and come into its own spencer. After five games, I

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Speaker 1: don't have a loaded question some sense, but where are we?

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Speaker 1: It's football existentialism one oh one? Where are we the

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Speaker 1: Texans after five games? Well? I love the fact that

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Speaker 1: you are willing to acknowledge that, because that's that's the

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Speaker 1: kind of conversations I guarantee is going to be going

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Speaker 1: on during this break time, asking those existential questions. Mean,

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Speaker 1: when you're in the fire right, you just got to

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Speaker 1: respond to a lot of things. You hope that what

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Speaker 1: you've worked on to that point kind of carries you.

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Speaker 1: But you know, um, And again, since we're getting existential here,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a Latin expression in insquilius inventor. It means

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Speaker 1: in the mud or the miyer, will be found the

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Speaker 1: solutions that you're looking for, you know uh, And that's

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Speaker 1: where it is, and for me, it's in the interior line.

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Speaker 1: I think George Warhop is going to have the challenge

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Speaker 1: put on him to try to find the solutions they're

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Speaker 1: gonna allow them to sustain the success that they have demonstrated,

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Speaker 1: at least against the Jaguars on the ground in the

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Speaker 1: rush game. I mean, the back is part of that.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have some continuity and we all

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Speaker 1: know that there's been changes in the center spot and

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Speaker 1: there's some things that you need to do to shure

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Speaker 1: up the consistency in the blocking that's going to allow

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Speaker 1: that run game to command numbers in the box right defenders,

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Speaker 1: and then that's gonna mean Nico Collins is going to

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Speaker 1: have success more because you got to make some choices

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Speaker 1: about how you're going to defend that guy if he

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Speaker 1: continues to progress. And now you start to stress defenses

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Speaker 1: and that's where it gets really fun again, and the

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Speaker 1: West Coast offense really begins to do what it does best.

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Speaker 1: And that's really allow you to pick and choose in

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Speaker 1: those latter orders because you want you get a beat

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Speaker 1: on what teams are trying to do. Some teams don't

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Speaker 1: have to. I've seen teams stay in the cover to

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Speaker 1: shell and not make you know, you don't make them

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Speaker 1: because you're not good enough to make them come out

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Speaker 1: of it with numbers around the box. So it's a

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Speaker 1: chess game and to the gree that you can play chess.

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Speaker 1: You got to have the right moves, and that means

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Speaker 1: that offensive life has got to be sure enough with

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Speaker 1: consistent blocking so that the run can set up the pass.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Chillman. Spencer Tillman joining us right now on Texans Monday. Spencer,

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Speaker 1: what about Davis Mills? What are you seeing? It was

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Speaker 1: another game where hey, he did enough here, but he

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Speaker 1: made the big drive throws in the fourth quarter, especially

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Speaker 1: the third intended Jordan Nakens. I thought that was good

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Speaker 1: to throw to Nico, giving him a chance to make

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Speaker 1: a play. Not a high volume of yards here. We

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Speaker 1: talked about Pierce's contribution. But you did see some progress

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Speaker 1: here as they got the victory. Yeah, I did see progress,

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Speaker 1: and really, you know, sometimes it's a minimalist approach, Mark,

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Speaker 1: but the bottom line is you don't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: You don't turn the ball over. As he continues to mature,

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Speaker 1: he's in a phase now where a mistake can really

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Speaker 1: compound itself really quickly. For giving an example, when you're

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Speaker 1: in a scenario where it's say a third and more

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Speaker 1: than six or seven plus. Well, he is who he is,

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Speaker 1: and he can expect pressure, particularly against the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: he was facing. But sometimes it's almost like he's surprised

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Speaker 1: that he's gonna get pressure in that situation. Well, we

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Speaker 1: know he's smart, we know he's sharp. Well, that's got

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Speaker 1: a transfer the feature of your awareness and your alertness,

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Speaker 1: your Stanford background and all of that bright stuff that

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Speaker 1: we used to talk about to define him. You know,

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Speaker 1: coming up to this point, you got to move that

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Speaker 1: from feature of who you are to a benefit for

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Speaker 1: the team. My awareness means if I slide in the

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Speaker 1: pocket sooner. If you can pre snap assess what's going on, man,

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Speaker 1: that makes you play better post snap. That's what any

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Speaker 1: good quarterback who has his suite of skills needs to

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Speaker 1: be able to master. And that's what I see him

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Speaker 1: getting better at. I think one time he did get

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Speaker 1: known that pressure was coming. So that should not be

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Speaker 1: a surprise because they did. The offensive line did what

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Speaker 1: it could to pick up the numbers. One is going

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Speaker 1: to be left for him and he's got to deal

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Speaker 1: with that. So he can do that pre snap. He

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Speaker 1: can identify where people are and where they're most likely

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Speaker 1: to come from. He's a smart cat. He can see

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Speaker 1: those things, Spencer, with the way the first four games

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Speaker 1: had gone, to just get a win, no matter how ugly,

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Speaker 1: no matter how pretty, however you want to classify it,

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Speaker 1: to just get a win going into a bye week

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Speaker 1: for this relatively young and it's getting kind of a

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Speaker 1: mixed team, but the team that's getting great play from

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Speaker 1: its young players, how important was it to just get

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Speaker 1: off the schneide and get a w after the way

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Speaker 1: the first four games had gone. Well, I think it's

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Speaker 1: significant because there is a chasm. You guys know this,

641
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: there's a gap between the expectations of fans and what

642
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: the players know. Internal to the organization, with the coaches,

643
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: no internal to the organization is the reality all of

644
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: us got kind of a little bit intoxicated by the

645
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: potential of what could be when you go undefeated in

646
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: the preseason. You've got a lot of positive talkers out there,

647
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: new head coach stepping in, you know, with NFL pedigrees,

648
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 1: not a new guy, you know, that kind of deal.

649
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: All of those things are positive, right, But the reality

650
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: of the matter is they paid their guys as much

651
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: as we pay our guys to do stop us from doing.

652
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: We're trying to do against them. So you've got to

653
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: respect that this league was designed for parody, and so

654
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: there are no dominant teams in that regard. At least

655
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: the dynasties don't last as long as they used to

656
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: for a reason. That competitive balance is what makes the

657
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: National Football League such a celebrated sport. It's the most

658
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: popular sport period you know. I know globally soccer is,

659
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: but that this football in America is what it is

660
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: because everybody can beat you on any given week. So

661
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: when you can get wins, particularly stacked them on top

662
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: and then coming into a break after you had the

663
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: long losing streak, I can't think of anything more important

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Speaker 1: and significant other than maybe the health of the players

665
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: and just getting them back for the one percent, getting

666
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: the linebackers playing at a high level again, those things

667
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: are points of interest that the team has got to

668
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: be focused on. But it was the timing of the

669
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: win was absolutely huge with this break coming up, absolutely

670
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: all Right, can I give you my mini college football

671
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: rant that I gave looking for it? If it's about

672
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: Tommy Tupperville, I'm really on tiptoes of a two station.

673
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Sorry about that later. That's something Melt I want to

674
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on DTR because I know you did

675
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: the game this past Saturday, but quickly on the polls here,

676
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: and I just think this is great for people to

677
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: talk about college football because Georgia being number one, to me,

678
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: it's not ridiculous. Ridiculous, but come on, Alabama just won

679
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: a game and I'm not an Alabama fan, but Georgia

680
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: beat Auburn, so what look? A win is a win? Great?

681
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: They beat Auburn, the Alabama Crimpton died, beat the Yaggies.

682
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: I think Ohio State should probably be number one based

683
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: on what they've done so far. But it's all brand

684
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: name recognition because GCU and some of these other Penn

685
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: stadium and they beat Auburn, why don't they deserve to

686
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: be more up there because they didn't start there. It's

687
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: all like where you start and what the brand name

688
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: recognition is? Your thoughts, yep, I love that. I think

689
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: that's great ascertaining what the situation is you take, which

690
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: is a dagger for me. Oklahoma getting beat down by

691
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Texas the way that they did well. People that were

692
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: calling me the shows that I was on that asked

693
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: me for us, said, look, it's not gonna be pretty well.

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00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: How are you anti? How could you say that? What

695
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: do you mean? I'm not a fan, I'm an analyst.

696
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: I say what I see. There is no DNA, and

697
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: least the level of DNA that disturbed player, that spurned

698
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: player who came from Texas didn't get an offer from Texas.

699
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: There's no Baker Mayfield. There's no if you want to

700
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: go back in history from Joe Washington from Port Arthur, Texas,

701
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Billy Simms from Hooks, Texas, David Osh, let's go down

702
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: and talk about the great players that came from Texas.

703
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: You don't see those great players on the Oklahoma roster anymore,

704
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma has to understand they're graded marketing. Joe Cassigulion

705
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: is a brilliant person when it comes to marketing. But

706
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: names and numbers of what matters. Players played the game.

707
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: And there is a gap right now because of the portal,

708
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: because of what Lincoln Riley did when he left taking

709
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: the great quarterback. All of those things are not excuses.

710
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: That's the reality. So now that you know what the

711
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: reality is, man, you better buckle down as you head

712
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: to the SEC because, believe me, a year ago this time,

713
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: to your point Nobody thought that UCLA and usc would

714
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: be in a better position as they prepared to move

715
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: to the Big Ten than Oklahoma and Texas would be

716
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: as they prepared to move to the SEC. Now, Texas

717
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: is out of that category now because they're really on

718
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: the right track with Sorry, I had them two weeks ago,

719
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: and let me tell you something. It's it's it's it's

720
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: creative tension. But Gary Patterson's a presence on that defense

721
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: is helping Pete Kwakowski a tremendous amount and that goose

722
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: egg against Oklahoma's evidence of that spencer. You had Utah

723
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: and Ucla. You mentioned Ucla. They got a quarterback running

724
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: back due that is doubt. What do you think of

725
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: dtr and Charbonne? You know, Charbonnet is a vintage back,

726
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: by the way, he's a very very nice mile back.

727
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: You know, he was unbelievable in terms of his ability.

728
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: He has one trait because he's a little bit bigger

729
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: than Damian Pierce. But he reminds me at times for

730
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: back his size it's about two fifteen to eighteen he

731
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: in he's tallers little about sixty one. He doesn't give

732
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: you clean angles on him. So in that regard. He

733
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me a little bit of Damion in

734
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: that regard, but he's not nearly as violent as Damon.

735
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Damon is sudden and violent and uh and he knows it.

736
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: And then Charbonna is more of a patient guy. He'll

737
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: wait a little bit and for his size, you can

738
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: get frustrated. Watch what he said. Well, look you're thinking

739
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: of don't want to take the guy. No, he's he's patient.

740
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: He's a smart back. So I love him. DTR has

741
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: been a process and in this portal era that we're in.

742
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: We came in in twenty eighteen. It was absolutely amazing

743
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: to me that Chip was able to keep him as

744
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: long as he did, but he had a lot of

745
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: growth and he needed the growth. And so now they'd

746
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: come in and augmented him with Bobo, the transfer that

747
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: they've got you know, at the Z position to tight end,

748
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean at receiver. They've got some parts around him

749
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: now where he doesn't have to be that guy that

750
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: improvises and then you have to hold your breath anticipating

751
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: what he may or may not do. He had perfected

752
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: the ark two thousand and eight to suck in the

753
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: life at a great part play calling in great drives

754
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. But you don't see him

755
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: making those mistakes, so Chip trusts him. Now dtr is

756
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: playing at an elite level. He's mature, a wonderful interview,

757
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: just a great guy. I tell you what, UCLA is

758
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: a team to look for right now. Man, if they're

759
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: sitting there undefeated, that they're special. Spencer Tillman joining us. Wait,

760
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: what do you have this week? I got this is

761
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: a great game really quickly. I know you're up against it.

762
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: We've got Wisconsin and Michigan State. The storylines of this

763
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: was really intriguing with the coaching potential change. One kind

764
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: of got a big back up the brink struck last

765
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: week with Mel Tucker and now things a little shaky

766
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: there right in East Encounter parts. It's gonna be really interesting.

767
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: They've let Paul Chris grow and so Jim Jim, their

768
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, is a great guy, one of one of

769
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: the great minds I think in football in the collegiate level.

770
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: So we're gonna see how they fare. But that's a

771
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: great storyline to watch. Now tell you what, Spencer and

772
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: his partner Tim Brandow have done some really good games

773
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: now they've had some duds too, but they've got some

774
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: really solid games this last week dad Utah and Ucla. Obviously,

775
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: that's why I asked about Charbona and DTR, and those

776
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: two are guys to watch. I mean my cop to

777
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: Nick to Charbona is Nick Chubb. If you see Nick Chubb,

778
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: you see zach scharbon A, very similar guys. To think

779
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: chubbs a little bit better athlete. But Charbonnat has won

780
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: heck of a running back at DTR. Dorian Thompson Robson

781
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: seen in high school uptill senior year, took over a quarterback,

782
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: got a skylar, Ucla, got a scalar Ucla without even

783
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: playing quarterback, took over and it's been started for the

784
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: last three years. He went back to UCLA for twenty

785
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: twenty two, and I think that was a wise, wise thing.

786
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: Not a big guy six foot two hundred, but can

787
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: sling it, can run, tough, gritty everything you really want

788
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: and guess for Las Vegas. So there you go. Dorian

789
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson keeping out UCLA spens that that game against Utah.

790
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing the full game sometime

791
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: this week, sometimes during the bye week, maybe I'll get

792
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: a chance to catch up. All right, we're gonna go

793
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: round the NFL and look at what happened in the league.

794
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: Next right here in Texas, Axas Chicksons Radio continues in

795
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: a moment and Use Chickson's Radio is back to fall

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Speaker 1: a segment this money issue the Texas All Access. I

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00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: am your host, John Football Analyst Sideline Report. It's time

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Speaker 1: to go around the NFL, and it's brought to you

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Speaker 1: Gibbabat can be a part of the team that's wiping

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Speaker 1: out Hunger in Houston. All right, this is going to

809
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Speaker 1: be fast. Hang on for the ride, get me some music,

810
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: and it's time to go to London where the Packers

811
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: got beat twenty seven twenty two. Chief heads in London

812
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: taken l as Daniel Jones and the Giants get it done. Jones, No,

813
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Tuddies didn't run for any either. Buddy controlled the game throughout,

814
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: really held his own in this game against the Packers

815
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: twenty one or twenty seven for two seventeen. Sa Quan

816
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: again seventy yards rushing, one touchdown, had the game winning

817
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: touchdown twenty seven twenty two g may go to four

818
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: and one. The Bills house this Heelers thirty eight to three.

819
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: There's nothing more to say about that. The Chargers had

820
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: a thirty to twenty eight lead late and Brandon Stanley

821
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: went for him fourth down. I got stuffed. Oh no,

822
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers are gonna lose thirty one twenty eight, but

823
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: they didn't. Chargers hang on thirty to twenty eight. Yeah

824
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: go Chargers. Nice job getting a win over the Browns.

825
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Like we said, we love the Texans and any team

826
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: to place the Browns this year. Vikings had to hang

827
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: on against the Bears twenty nine twenty two. Kirk Cousins

828
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: starts with two ninety six and a touchdown. Justin fields.

829
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: Gotta go in a little bit throwing. Good to see that,

830
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: but vikings four and one on the season. The Patriots

831
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: blanked the Lions completely zapped them with Bailey Zappy. The

832
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: Seahawks played another high scoring game. They're scoring, but they're

833
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: giving it up to Taysom Hill. Win crazy in this game.

834
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Nine rushes, one hundred and twelve yards, three touchdowns as

835
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: the Saints get at thirty nine thirty two win. Both

836
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: teams moved to two and three. The Dolphins took on

837
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: the Jets. First play the game, Teddy Bridgewater went out

838
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the concussion. Jets then rolled forty to seventeen. The Jets

839
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: are three and two, same as the Dolphins. Good for

840
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: the Jets at this point in the season. Buccaneers twenty

841
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: one fifteen. Obviously the sack heard round the world. Grady

842
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Jarrett apparently threw down Tom Brady. You can't do that

843
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: the forty five year olds. He got fifteen yard penalty

844
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: and then Falcons never had a shot after that. Buccaneers

845
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: win twenty one fifteen as they bounced back from at

846
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: loss to the Packers and to the Chiefs Titans. Carson

847
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: Wentz intercepted at the goal line as the Titans win

848
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 1: that one. Twenty one seventeen. David Long came up big

849
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Speaker 1: with that pick. Forty nine Ers taking on the Panthers

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Speaker 1: and ended the career of Matt Rule thirty seven fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Panthers fired Matt Rule earlier today. That's what a lot

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Speaker 1: of things building up was just that loss. But the

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Speaker 1: forty nineers get that win on the road. Cowboys went

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Speaker 1: into the building they thought was theirs and really snatched

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Speaker 1: the souls of the ram. Twenty two ten, Cooper Rush

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Speaker 1: gets another win. Cameron Dicker, the kicker, beat the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen for the Eagles with a three pointer in

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals Mada Amadola missed one right as Eagles stay on,

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Speaker 1: defeated five and zero, and the Cardinals have lost eight

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Speaker 1: straight at home. And then Sunday Night, Ravens late game drive,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Justine Tucker arguably the greatest kicker

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Speaker 1: for that's arguable, he's the greatest kicker of all time

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen with the game winner, and there you have it.

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Speaker 1: The NFL on a Sunday, always magical. We'll see them

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Speaker 1: everybody and it's always good Texans. How this is Texans

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