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Speaker 1: Your tune's about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too, West Shuler Matt Williamson our number two of

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Speaker 2: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Typically we

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Speaker 2: do power rankings on a Tuesday, but this Wednesday kind

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Speaker 2: of feels like a Tuesday as we're trying to get

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Speaker 2: back together. Yeah, but we can't let a week's slide

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Speaker 2: without going over some power ranking Williamson.

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Speaker 3: So it's funny like, and this happens every year. I

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Speaker 3: mean I've done power rankings for a million years. Early

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Speaker 3: in the year, there's still optimism. You know, the teams

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Speaker 3: at the bottom. You're like, oh, I feel bad putting

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Speaker 3: them at twenty nine. I mean, things could turn around

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Speaker 3: for this team. Jackson Dark might be a stud or

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Speaker 3: you know whatever it is, cam Ward or you know

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Speaker 3: some guy like that. And now I look at like

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Speaker 3: eight to ten teams and be like, you guys are

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Speaker 3: all bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're bad. Right, you're cooked. Now, how are you

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Speaker 2: gonna be by Halloween? Yeah? And one of those teams,

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Speaker 2: a couple of those teams at the bottom of the

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Speaker 2: list here. Number thirty two, the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: They're a dead last. I mean, they're a little embarrassing

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Speaker 3: right now. And it's not even Ward's fault.

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Speaker 2: He said so as much in his postgame press conference.

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Speaker 2: Really a couple of choice words.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I think his seat is red hot.

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Speaker 3: What's weird is his dad's yo line coach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and also probably the guy you would bump

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Speaker 3: up to the interim job, right, hilarious, Right, But they're

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Speaker 3: miserable to watch. They don't score points, and Ward actually

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Speaker 3: looks promising though, Like I would love for the Steelers

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Speaker 3: to have cam Ward, you know, next year at this time,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, sign me up to

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Speaker 3: build around that guy. I mean, he is immensely talented.

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Speaker 3: But they're a horrible football team right now.

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Speaker 2: No, they certainly are. And you're right, I think, listen,

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Speaker 2: all that matters for them, and the grand scheme of

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Speaker 2: things for this season is cam Ward's development. It is,

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Speaker 2: and if he can be the franchise quarterback, be the

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Speaker 2: guy for them for the next you know, twelve fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. So far, so good in

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean he's promising so far, so.

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Speaker 2: Bad in every other facet, right, but.

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Speaker 3: He's probably gonna have a new coach now. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean one thing that isn't exactly their fault. To

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Speaker 3: real offensive linemen and like two or three of them

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Speaker 3: are out, and they have no debt, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: like the things they even they tried haven't gone well.

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Speaker 3: Ridley's not doing anything.

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Speaker 2: I mean bad number thirty one. Also owing for the

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Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints. Okay, I still don't think they're terrible either,

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Speaker 2: but they're also oh and four.

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Speaker 3: I mean I get that they'd haven't won obviously, They're

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Speaker 3: not going to be much higher than this. I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to lobby for him to be sixteen. I kind

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Speaker 3: of like Spencer Rattler, I'm say he's like the long

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Speaker 3: term surprised. Yeah, I mean, he's gonna be in this

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Speaker 3: league for ten years. I would say that maybe he's

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Speaker 3: you know, fits Magic and ends up on eight different teams,

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, maybe you know, and their competitive kind of

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Speaker 2: Other than that Seahawks game, it's not like they've gotten blown.

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Speaker 3: Out, right, and Seattle should be really high on this list.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm interested to see where.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big fan. I'm curious where the Bengals

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Speaker 3: end up. I don't know that I picked the Bengals

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Speaker 3: against anybody against Tennessee right now, other than Tennessee, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, in a head to head match, I think

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Speaker 2: Right, Jets definitely the Jets. Dolphins, Yeah, you might, right, right,

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Speaker 2: and they're miserable. Number thirty is those New York Jets

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Speaker 2: and they haven't won yet.

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Speaker 3: I get it. Oh and four the defense is worse

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they just I mean think you have

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, you knew it was gonna be

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Speaker 2: You knew it was gonna be a lobous. I didn't

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Speaker 2: For some of the talent and investment that they do have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm looking up a stat that I retweeted yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not picking on our former buddy here justin fields,

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know where this is going. I think I

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Speaker 2: saw this too. Is at the twenty points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is when the team allows

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Speaker 2: I saw that on Twitter a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 2: I gotta check more source. I mean I would buy

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Speaker 2: twelve five, twenty five three different organizations. Now, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can't just say, oh, it's the Bears, sure, brutal, real, tough. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not a good look. No no, right, speaking of not

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins check in at number twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: I would definitely haven't ahead the Bengals. I mean they

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Speaker 3: Week one was terrible against the Colts, but lately, they've

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Speaker 2: Number twenty eight is those Las Vegas Raiders. Even finally

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Speaker 3: And then they get bad news and lose their left

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Speaker 3: gonna go in there, but he's horrible too. I mean

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Speaker 2: We talked about tybe maybe the worst line in the league.

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Speaker 2: On top of it, Gino's turning the ball over way

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Speaker 2: Not a great place to be, and they have to

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm definitely having the Dolphins ahead of that.

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Speaker 2: They dropped six spots this week.

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Speaker 3: They're miserable and it's time to start talking about replacing

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young in the offseason, you know. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: get him. This coach hasn't really done much. Tech McMillan's interesting,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they're a miserable team right now.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. Tech McMillan is Fun's bright spot.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a nice long career. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, that's the thing. From where Caroline

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Speaker 3: I mean, just go to draftistory dot com and look

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Speaker 3: up the Panthers. They picked the top ten every year

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Speaker 2: Number twenty six, feeling good about themselves after a win,

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Speaker 3: I think I'd have him over everybody mentioned.

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there's some reason.

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Speaker 2: Their defense is nice. They just be a legit team

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Speaker 3: Abdell Carter had a massive game and looks like everything.

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Speaker 3: It was just like we said about Tech McMillan, like

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Speaker 2: I mean there's something to build on there, your boy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, number twenty five. I'm gonna see start to see

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Speaker 3: Check it out.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about their draft class a lot next year

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Speaker 2: Because they didn't drafting offensive line. I knew that's where

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Speaker 3: With such a shortage the league, and you'd always resource

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Speaker 2: I bet it does not go as well for Minister

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Speaker 2: against the Vikings overseas this weekend. Yeah, twenty four Browns

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Speaker 3: They'd be way lower for me. And again, maybe this

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Speaker 3: author does power ranks a little different than me, but

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Speaker 3: I do them. What are they this minute, this second?

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Speaker 2: I don't care that you want the game tonight October First.

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Speaker 3: Let's a spread. You know, I always say if they

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Speaker 3: play a one hundred and eleven game series in Wichita, Kansas,

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Speaker 3: whom I pick it. You know I'm taking the Dolphins

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Speaker 3: over them. I'm taking the Jets over that.

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Speaker 2: I thought I thought your point was spot on right now.

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Speaker 2: If they're playing on a neutral field against the other

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Speaker 2: thirty one teams in the NFL, the only one they

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Speaker 2: might be favored against is the titles.

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Speaker 3: Their dog against just about everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, any you know, speaking of trade conversations, not Steelers

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Speaker 2: related here, just bigger picture for Cincinnati. Any thought we know,

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Speaker 2: we know Jamar Chase isn't going anywhere, but any thoughts

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson's contracts really interesting because everyone's like, well, they resigned him,

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Speaker 2: You know they do have they've got a nice stable

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Speaker 2: Sixteen down nine spots, Matt. In the eight years now

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Speaker 3: So I would have the Vikings ahead of them.

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Speaker 2: So San Francisco has been weird all year to kind

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Speaker 3: Okay, we can fight about them versus Steelers, and I

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Speaker 3: I still think the defense is awesome. It's great, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know who the author is, but it came

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Speaker 3: out today that I think Jayden Daniels was practicing, So

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Speaker 3: maybe you look at it through that lens and not Mariota.

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Speaker 3: Not that Marioda was horrendous, but I'll be honest, I've

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Speaker 3: been hard on WA watching from the start. I thought

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Speaker 3: they were overrated.

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Speaker 2: You've been saying that since July. Yeah, not that they're terrible. No,

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Speaker 2: they're not. They're not a contender. Just four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think their defense is bad and old.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Into the top ten we go, Matt number ten. Who

449
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Speaker 2: saw this coming? It's the three and one Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. No, I don't know if I they'll

452
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Speaker 2: get much higher than about tennis. Probably true, but I

453
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Speaker 2: don't think they're going to drop into the twenties. It's

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Speaker 2: at the rest of the season either.

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Speaker 3: Have they hung with a really good Rams team and

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Speaker 3: I thought they might get blown out and maybe like

457
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Speaker 3: either an average team again, but they're not. They're they're

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Speaker 3: I really think they're going to playoffs.

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Speaker 2: As long as Jonathan Taylor is running like he is,

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Speaker 2: he's been the best back in the league, They're going

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Speaker 2: to be a yeah, full They certainly have a lot

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Speaker 2: of weapons. Warren's been a star, you know, Number nine,

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Speaker 2: much like our Monty Python friends. I'm not dead yet. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs not dead yet, will be back soon,

465
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Speaker 2: getting some reinforcements. Yeah, Chris Jones looking like he's knocked

466
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Speaker 2: off the rust. Maybe there's some Cam Hayward equivalence is there.

467
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Speaker 2: He looks like he's back to doing Chris Jones things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think this is about right for campus.

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Speaker 3: Sound problem with it? And I bet they start creeping up.

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Speaker 3: If I were them, I'd be in the market for

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Speaker 3: like an Alvin Kamara. They're running back situations.

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Speaker 2: Or it is rough. Yeah, it's real rough. And again,

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Speaker 2: like you said, there's some of those teams out there

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Speaker 2: now where you can pinpoint. Yeah, you go get some help.

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Speaker 2: Number eight down four spots after a disappointing loss to

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Speaker 2: the Giants. It's the La Chargers. Hmm, it's a tough

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Speaker 2: one for me. Yeah, the Giants were so desperate and

478
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Speaker 2: as you and I talk about all the time, you

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Speaker 2: can say it's an excuse, but it is what West

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Speaker 2: Coast teams when they travel to the East Coast for

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Speaker 2: those one o'clock kickoffs, their records are terrible.

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Speaker 3: It's bad.

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Speaker 2: They win like thirty percent of the time in the

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Speaker 2: twenty first century.

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Speaker 3: Sticking in my head with them being ranked here or

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Speaker 3: just in general, is in that In that game too,

487
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Speaker 3: they lost Joe Alt right off the bat and they

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Speaker 3: if I probably could have a pair of tackles to

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Speaker 3: build a round, it would be Slater and Alt. And

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Speaker 3: they lose Slater before the season, move all from right

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Speaker 3: to left and he doesn't miss a beat.

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Speaker 2: Stud tough for anybody.

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Speaker 3: And then you lose them both. I mean, then you're

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Speaker 3: down to the the Eagles without my Lata and Johnson

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Speaker 3: exactly how much would that change what they right now?

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Speaker 3: I mean this did did they? Did they peak?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: You know, like you're gonna be starting the Calvin Anderson

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Speaker 3: type guys of the world, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Imagine what we you feel about Steelers if they lost

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Speaker 2: Roger Jones and Troy FOUTONU.

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Speaker 3: Right, and that pairing is better, right, I mean it's

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Speaker 3: just more accomplish, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's that's that's an incredibly tough task. Yeah, it's one

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Speaker 2: thing if you lose an interior guy and you kind

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Speaker 2: of hide them a little bit, right, one, not both

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Speaker 2: of your books. Yeah, that's just trade for one. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like your stock down two spots after dropping their first

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Speaker 2: game of the season in a close one to the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: It's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at seven.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't dig them for that. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 3: shame in that, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean they move from five to seven. It's not

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Speaker 2: a massive I think that's about right fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got no problem with.

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Speaker 2: That number six staying at number six after being a

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Speaker 2: part of that forty point tie with the Cowboys. It's

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's two lackluster weeks in a row. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you lost the Browns, he tied the Cowboys. We talked

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Speaker 3: about both these teams a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: Neither those teams are going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: No, newer team's going to playoffs. I'm still high on them.

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Speaker 3: You say I might move him down. I say, were

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Speaker 3: they favored against the Chiefs right now on a neutral field?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Close?

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Speaker 3: But yeah close? Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number five, here's your boys, met up eight spots for

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Speaker 2: their highest ranking of the season. The three and one

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Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks on a three game winning streak.

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Speaker 3: Another young coach that's doing good work. I think their

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Speaker 3: defense is elite. I mean, one of the top few

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Speaker 3: in the league. Darnold's been tremendous.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jig but has been out superstar too.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was good, but I didn't know he

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Speaker 2: would be this good.

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Speaker 3: That's another team I might be in the market for.

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Speaker 3: If I can grab another receiver, i'd consider it. Cup

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Speaker 3: doesn't do anything for me.

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Speaker 2: The LA Rams at number four, up six spots after

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Speaker 2: taking down the Indianapolis Colts and speaking of talented wide receivers, goodness,

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Speaker 2: Poka Nakua. He might be the best offensive player in

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Speaker 2: the NFL in the month of September.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they give the way that Offensive Player of

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Speaker 3: the Year award that usually doesn't go to a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the vote right now.

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Speaker 2: If they're voting had to be done today. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's like thirteen catches for one hundred and seventy yards.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's remarkable. Stafford's been great. Their young D

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Speaker 3: line is phenomenal versus one of the best defensive ends

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Speaker 3: in the league. I think they're super well coach, great organization.

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Speaker 2: Good spy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't have much bad to say about the Rams.

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Speaker 2: They could win the Super Bowl. You and I have

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Speaker 2: said it all along. I agree with you. As long

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Speaker 2: as Matthew Stafford is healthy. Yeah, are one of the

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Speaker 2: better teams in the NF no question. Number three Matthew

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Speaker 2: Stafford's former employer. Another team that I think some people

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Speaker 2: were starting to feel like, could this be the end

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Speaker 2: of the line for them? But they're saying, hey, don't,

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Speaker 2: don't write the obituary yet. Restraight wins. After that embarrassment

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Speaker 2: to open the season at Lambeau, it's the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 2: at number three.

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Speaker 3: Oh, line shaping up. I don't have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: Jameson Williams is taking places. Oh yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: My only question is can I win the Super Bowl? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right right?

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Speaker 3: I mean I think they'll be in the hunt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, now they're in a nice spot.

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Speaker 2: Like we've said, that window might not be completely open

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Speaker 2: like it was the last few years, but it might

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Speaker 2: still be eighty percent of the way open.

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Speaker 3: With that squad right, certainly.

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Speaker 2: Could Number two, four and zero continuing to roll. No

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Speaker 2: One circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but their defense is underratedly or under reportedly bad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they need to be in the trade market

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Speaker 2: for some defense. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And they've been throwing resources out of left and right

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Speaker 3: and it never seems to get any better. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if anything, the rails on them, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a game that they lose forty to thirty eight and

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Speaker 3: Allen can only do so much, you know.

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Speaker 2: In which we have seen in the playoffs. It happens

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Speaker 2: all the.

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Speaker 3: Time the playoff year, right, Yeah, rinse, repeat, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then Number one staying locked in there for a

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Speaker 2: few straight weeks. Four and zero defending Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 2: Impressive win in Tampa against the Bucks. It's the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 2: well earned, beating two really good teams the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Saying to them, you go to Kansas City and win,

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Speaker 2: and he'd beat three weeks. They went to Kansas City

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Speaker 2: and one. Then they beat the Rams at home, but

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Speaker 2: they went to Tampa and one. That's an impressive stretch

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Speaker 2: of three wins there.

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Speaker 3: And maybe you're like, oh, it's f looky they've blocked

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Speaker 3: a kick, but I don't hear it.

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Speaker 2: I don't hear much like the Steelers. Yeah, but even

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Speaker 2: to a greater extent, obviously, is they've been to three

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls in the last eight years, and one two

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Speaker 2: of them. They have a style of play. They don't

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Speaker 2: care if you don't like it. They don't care if

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Speaker 2: you don't think it's sexy. They're gonna win a ton

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Speaker 2: of games doing it.

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Speaker 3: And they win in the margins like the Steelers two.

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Speaker 3: And the most encouraging thing to me, well, those three

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Speaker 3: wins are awesome. You would think you'd go two and

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Speaker 3: one in that situation if you're the best team in

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Speaker 3: the league. But when they had to, they could throw,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's what we've been waiting to se Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: two weeks in a row.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll pepper a J. Brown when we're losing. Like,

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Speaker 3: I guess that's a good thing to have. Like it's

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Speaker 3: weird when you don't need aj Brown, Yes, but you can.

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Speaker 2: With everything else they've got. That's when you look like

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Speaker 2: the best team in the NFL. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: a fair spot for the Eagles to be here once again. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's our Week five power rankings.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten some good tweets that I've kind of booked

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Speaker 2: marked over the last over the last day or so.

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Speaker 2: What do you say we get into some of those

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Speaker 2: as we roll along?

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Speaker 3: Love It?

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Speaker 2: We'll do that little little Twitter mail bag here on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday, as we rock and we roll in this

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Speaker 2: final hour was Shooler Matt Williamson. It's the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your.

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Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Driving along here on a Wednesday, as the afternoon is

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Speaker 2: turned into the evening West Shuoler Matt Williamson with you

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Speaker 2: for a couple more segments here on the Drive, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I did want to get to some tweets that we've

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Speaker 2: gotten over the last day or two here on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: So let's hop right into the Yes, love it first

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Speaker 2: one from Angry Bike Lane on the on the ex Twitter, the.

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Speaker 3: Bikes in Ireland, by the way, and the driving situation.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we had this cover bit right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: some of the roads are so old, I understand it,

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Speaker 3: but like our bus driver is driving a big bus

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Speaker 3: through these tiny.

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Speaker 2: Little streets people on bikes. Rights so many bike city

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Speaker 2: but even more condensed in terms of the foot traffic

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Speaker 2: and the bike traffic in the And it.

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Speaker 3: Was cute, like these little kids are walking to school.

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Speaker 3: It was, you know, Monday morning or whatever, Thursday morning,

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Speaker 3: on whatever day it was. There's there's nowhere to turn

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Speaker 3: and this guy's were driving this little huge bus and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this guy's a monster. I haven't asked uber drivers.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, we don't have nearly as many bicycless,

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Speaker 3: Like I hate them all. Every uber driver I drive, like,

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Speaker 3: I hate them all and I just run them all

659
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: over because they just go right in front of you.

660
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: They do. It's it's crazy, it is.

661
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: And it's like some of the stuff they have, like

662
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: a taxi bus only lane everywhere. Yeah I don't know,

663
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: it's just for buses and for uber drivers for taxis

664
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: and you can like take it like all the way

665
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: if there's a red light. You could take it like

666
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: all the way to the front of the red light

667
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: and then cut in front of the people that are

668
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: at the front. It's some of the traffic. There would

669
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: be so much road rage if if that was the

670
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: status in America. Yeah, yeah, so much road rage for me.

671
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: And there was many signals I was looking at. I'm like,

672
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: could we go or not? I'm like, did you just

673
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: go to the red light and we're gonna get smashed?

674
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: You know, I just was overmatched.

675
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: I always have thought I would have no desire to

676
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: drive in a foreign country for a lot of reasons.

677
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: You're on the other side of the road. You don't

678
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: understand all the signage.

679
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: I've never understood the other side of the road thing.

680
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, when.

681
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: People tell me that, like, oh, you know, we were

682
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: like Rob king and they go to Portugal all the time,

683
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: not together. They both love Portugal and and Kinger Kinger

684
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: is always like, yeah, we go for two or three

685
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: weeks every year, and like I rent a car and

686
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, that sounds miserable, that sounds like stressful, reinforced

687
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: by everything I saw. I would you'd have to you'd

688
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: have to pay me a six figure salary every year

689
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: to drive around in Dublin.

690
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: That was my job when we went to Turks and

691
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: Caicos and you can't even like rent a nice car.

692
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all falling apart.

693
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: I'll just give you some rusty hunk of crap. And

694
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm on the wrong side and I hardly fit in there.

695
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you especially, yeah, and I'm.

696
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 3: I almost killed my family four hundred times. I mean

697
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: especially like the roundabouts and stuff, you know, like, yeah,

698
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: they got a little better at the end, but yeah, like,

699
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: oh man.

700
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: One of the funny, uh, one of the funny Dublin

701
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: stories that we haven't told yet was when we met

702
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: our buddy Steelers Nation Australia there and you and we

703
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: stood up to say hi to him and take a picture,

704
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: and he was like, oh, you're a big fellow, mate.

705
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: Big bloke.

706
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: I get that a lot people are like when you

707
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: meet in person, like you're a lot bigger than I thought. Right, Yeah,

708
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: I understand why your kids play volleyball if if they

709
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: get the height gene from you, for sure.

710
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: I think it's more than just the height situation too.

711
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: It's probably like you could lose a few pounds too. Williamson.

712
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: You know angry bike lane. Plenty of those in Dublin

713
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: as well too, tweets us and says, what is the

714
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: more preferred What is the better strategy giving up a

715
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: few third down conversion conversions or the bend not break

716
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: model where you give up more yards and plays but

717
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: you also get more opportunities for turnovers. Interesting, So I

718
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: think he means like, would you answer the question? I

719
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: think he means like, would you rather see the Steelers

720
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: defense get off the field more on third downs or

721
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: continue to do what they've been doing, which is giving

722
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: up maybe more yards than you would like, but forcing

723
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: a ton of turn I've forced a turnover and every

724
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: game and since the opener of Met Life they forced

725
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: multiple turnovers in the last three games turnovers. I think

726
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 2: so too. Yeah, it is a fair question. There's more

727
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: than one way to skin that cat to be an

728
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: effective defense, and.

729
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: I bet both listeners are probab. I'll be like, well,

730
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: time possession, Williams and all. You talked about time possession,

731
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: and you're not helping I. You'd like to be a

732
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: blend of both, of course, you know, and frankly, there

733
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: aren't shut down defenses anymore. And it's you know, people

734
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: be like, well, I want the eighty five Bears. I

735
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 3: want the seventy six Steelers.

736
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: Get off the field on third down, force turnovers, be

737
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: good in the red zone, make plays.

738
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more into explosives. But the time possession thing

739
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: is I'm kind of talking on both sides my mouth.

740
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: But if you have to pick one or two, I

741
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: want the one that's a big play. Defense that hits quarterbacks.

742
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: I think so too.

743
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: Any quarterbacks pays.

744
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: Off, especially in this era. Yeah, and the way football

745
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: is legislated now, you say we are never going to

746
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: see two thousand and eight Steelers again. Defense, you know,

747
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: ray lewis ra under two hundred yards a game and

748
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half points per game. Whatever it was,

749
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: it's just not happening.

750
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: Coordinators are too good, the rules are too good, the

751
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: passing games too good. I mean back in those days,

752
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: I mean, especially like in the seventies, Bradshaw's touchdown to

753
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: interception ratio would be like one to one, right, you know,

754
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: like all the coaches like why would you throw it

755
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: two out of bat two out of three? Things are bad?

756
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: You know, Like I will I will never forget this

757
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: during COVID. I'm sure you and Dale did a lot

758
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: of this same stuff during COVID. We're doing so many

759
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: draft your all time Steelers line up? Who are your

760
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: top ten? And every Steeler? All the different things that

761
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: we did to regurgitate content and all of that.

762
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

763
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a motes and I had during COVID.

764
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: We called it a like once and for all week.

765
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: I called it where we took all these popular Steelers

766
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: debates and we were like, we're gonna settle this once

767
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: and for all nice and one was and we let

768
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: people tweet them in that kind you know, made it interactive.

769
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: But one of the things that we did that week

770
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: was who's the best Steelers running back of all time?

771
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm sure like Ben Burth, Bradshaw came up,

772
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: and yeah.

773
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: All those things, who's your Mount Rushmore? You know, like

774
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: all that stuff. One of the so when we were

775
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: having the running back conversation, we're.

776
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: Gonna do it in the off season, by the way. Yeah,

777
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: yeah's as well.

778
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it people, and you know it's funny.

779
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: As much as sometimes I think that that's like lazy

780
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: low hanging for radio. You never get more tweets and

781
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: more reaction and opinions than when you do that. So

782
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: the listener's clearly you joined.

783
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: And somebody somebody can't, somebody doesn't get the answer.

784
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: You know, right, which you know, Okay, best running back

785
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: in Steeler history and most is like, I want you

786
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: to go first. And I'm like, well, you know Jerome

787
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: this and Lev Bell that, and but it's frank O'harris

788
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean. And Motes is like, yeah, it's Lev Bell

789
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: for me. He's like, do you know how many time

790
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: he goes? You know how many times he goes? He goes.

791
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: I love frank O Harris. He's like, he's a legend.

792
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: And this is in twenty twenty, you know, two years

793
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: before Franco had passed away. Mots Is like, I can't

794
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: say enough good things about Franco. Sure, but go on

795
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: Pro Football Reference and see how much he used to fumble.

796
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: Like he's like, oh, he's a lot. More like he's like,

797
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: you could not leave.

798
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: He had there were games like six turnovers than he

799
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: would have.

800
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: Double digit fumbles every season and it was okay, he's

801
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: still a pro bowler and an All Pro and an MVP.

802
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: And he's like, I'm sorry, I cannot have my all

803
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: time running back somebody who put the ball on the

804
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: carpet that much, I can't do it.

805
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, times a little different, times are certain.

806
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: He he acknowledged that too.

807
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 3: You have to judge him against who they played against,

808
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: you know.

809
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, he played with Lev, so he's a little biased.

810
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: And it made for good conversation on the show, which

811
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: I like it.

812
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: We'll hold it for the off season. But I did

813
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: do my all time team probably around COVID and Lev

814
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: was my running back. Now, after talking Labs and those

815
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: people made it clear that that it has to be.

816
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: Well again, it's it's you know, and it would It's

817
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: one of those do you want them at their best

818
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: day when you're guaranteed to get an A plus game,

819
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 2: or do you want their body of career, the longevity,

820
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: the work.

821
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: The convincing part to me was value to the organization

822
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: at their time.

823
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, you know what I mean.

824
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: It's Franco and.

825
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Labs does a great job of Like the organization was

826
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: never going in the right direction until they drafted Joe Green,

827
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: but they never want a playoff game until they until

828
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: they had friends.

829
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: I think Joe Green actually said that, yes, yeah, yes,

830
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: and running backs were super important then you know Earl

831
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Campbell or said and Peyton and they're not replaceable and

832
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: running backs don't matter then by any means. But the

833
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: case for Bell is not crazy.

834
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 2: No, it's not because he's.

835
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: An awesome receiver too. Again especially adn't if Franco is

836
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: ever the best running back in the league, you know

837
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like Tayton Campbell.

838
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, O J.

839
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: Simmons was unbelievable, Golden era of running back, right. I

840
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: don't think he ever was the best running back in

841
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: the league.

842
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: I think Bell was one of the one of them.

843
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: I know that's blasphemous. It's also blasphemous. Sorry, my new

844
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: buddy John Stalwarth. But ab is the best receiver too.

845
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: People will come through their the microphone to choke me

846
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: out on that, but he's the best receiver.

847
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: TV strike this from the record, as nobody knows. But

848
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right on that one too as

849
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: well too. To me, one of the most interesting, like

850
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: sitting at the bar with your buddies, sports debates you

851
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: can have is do you want the guy who had

852
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: the long jevity in the full body of work or

853
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: do you want the guy who was unstoppable at his peak. Yeah,

854
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: you know, and I prefer the unstoppable to speak me too.

855
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

856
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: It's rarer.

857
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: They absolutely are, and I think that that makes for

858
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: some fun debates from time to time. However, Matt, we

859
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: gotta get to our last break. A couple more tweets

860
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: on the other side to get us out of here. Well, Shuler,

861
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, final segment of the Drive coming at you

862
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: when we return. It's Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

863
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Audio Network, your tunes.

864
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

865
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

866
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: Final segment of the Drive. Here on a Wednesday, having

867
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: some fun rolling along. A couple more tweets to get

868
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: us up out of here. Probably too late for today's program,

869
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: but you know, you can always find us. You can

870
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: always get involved on the X Twist. As our brother

871
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: dal Lawley would have said, at Williamson NFL at Wesley Yuler,

872
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: me tweets us okay, and he says, do the Stellers

873
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: start Herbig over high Smith going forward? Herbig's body of

874
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: work this season has been impressive.

875
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: We've kind of addressed it. We talked to with how

876
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: with Chris start. I mean that's that's the word in

877
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: the sentence as screwing me up, you know what I mean, because.

878
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: That can mean a lot of different things.

879
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when it's all said and done, who plays

880
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: more snaps in their next game that they're both healthy.

881
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: Wouldn't shock me if it's Herbig, But first and ten,

882
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: the first snap of the game is probably gonna be

883
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: high Smith. I mean, he is better against the run.

884
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: Chris mentioned Herbig's getting better against the run. Sure, still

885
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: really good player. Yeah, I think, as we kind of

886
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: laid out an hour ago, I would love to take

887
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 3: ten snaps away from what I'd like to take fifteen

888
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: away from high Smith and Herbig's role before add it

889
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: to that and add five snaps a game and they're

890
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 3: all on the field together. And that's not as easy

891
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: to devise as people think, by the way, but sometimes

892
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: just put good football players on the field, you know.

893
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: That's it.

894
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

895
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the biggest thing is that term starter

896
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: can be completely right in every sport. In basketball, you'll

897
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: have a starter, but the six man off the bench

898
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: plays more minutes than him does. Still, But it's just

899
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: something about setting the tone of the way you want

900
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: to play right out of the shoot that leads to

901
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: the one guy starting. In terms of the snap counts,

902
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: I think we're going to still see a significant number

903
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: for her Big. Yes, maybe he's third of the three,

904
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: what his role is not going to be suddenly drastically

905
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: reduced when high Smith returns down? How he possibly can

906
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: You can't?

907
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: And again, I mean this is a conversation for the

908
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: off season, But you consider trading high Smith and extending

909
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: her Big. I mean, I'm strongly considered extending Herbig no

910
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: matter what I mean, like I just can create and

911
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: walk away for a future third round pick, you.

912
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: Know, absolutely not last one. Before we get up out

913
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: of here, power Grid Janitor tweets us and said, says,

914
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: slancha to the boys. You know what that is now,

915
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: don't you? Uh? Yes, but that's cheers and Irish and

916
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: Irish launcha yes, uh, slancha to the boys, slaunch you

917
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: to you as well. Comparing our wide receiver injury to

918
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: the Giants, I think we are fortunate it was Calvin

919
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Austin and not you know, dk Metcalf wide receiver number one.

920
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: If a team loses a wide receiver uh. Number one,

921
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost impossible to kind of ask your

922
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: next man up to step up. Does this heighten our

923
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: urgency to find another wide receiver? Number two? We talked

924
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: about the second part of that. Yeah, in the first hour.

925
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, like, I don't want to say

926
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: that it's fortunate that it was, you know, somebody to

927
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: look at other than DK Metcalf.

928
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: Right, just because the Giants lost neighbors doesn't mean, oh,

929
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: we're lucky we're not them. Yes, you know there's thirty

930
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: teams that didn't lose a guy.

931
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: I would rather not lose a wide receiver, obviously, but

932
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 2: I do understand kind of the overall premise of the question,

933
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: and the Steelers would goes about saying thank you, captain

934
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: obvious be in huge trouble now if something were to

935
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: happen to DK Metcalf, that's a worst take, worst case

936
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: type scenario and all the I.

937
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: Mean, I'm not gonna want to say this, You've said this,

938
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: everyone in the world said it is okay, maybe they

939
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: don't need another receiver, but what if Metcalf gets hurt?

940
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, no matter what we

941
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: said that in Yeah, and we saw it with Pickens.

942
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he would be great to have another. And

943
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: Tom and I say this all the time on the

944
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: pre pregame show. It's like, yeah, you can survive with

945
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: these guys, but I want to thrive with these guys.

946
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to survive. I mean I want to

947
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: win eleven games on playoff game, you know, like I want.

948
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: To be five and one here in a couple of weeks. Yeah,

949
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: and then and then seven and three or seven and

950
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: two a couple of weeks after that.

951
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, when Chris Olave and Metcalf.

952
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 2: Lining up with each other, you know, like Kobe Meyer

953
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: and somebody.

954
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: Like asking Santa Claus, you know, I mean, I'm not

955
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: asking for it.

956
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: Might have kind of like, you know, all right, last

957
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: one I got for you. I saved this for the

958
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: very end. Every once in a while, Motes and I

959
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: would do this thing called What's bothering Me where we

960
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: just have to get something football related off our chest

961
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: for sixty seconds to end the show. Can people stop

962
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: complaining about the halftime show?

963
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know that that was a complaint.

964
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's bad. Bunny, who's a Puerto Rican artist

965
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: who is like I know, yeah, I know, you love

966
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. He might be. He's the second most stream

967
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: artist in the world right now, behind Tell You Say.

968
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: But people are upset because he's not big in America

969
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: and he's got some political views that people don't agree with. Yes,

970
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: this was just announced a day or two ago.

971
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: I know he's madly popular.

972
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: Who cares? There is nothing I care less about than

973
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: the artist or band who does the halftime show. What

974
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: are we doing here?

975
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

976
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: They play five songs for twelve minutes and it's all

977
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: lip sync. Anyways, I understand now I'm doing it. I understand.

978
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: We live in an outrage society where everybody wants to

979
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: be perpetually pissed about something. Who cares it's a twelve minute,

980
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: made for TV lip sync show. Unless unless John Lennon

981
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: and Jerry Garcia and Biggie and Tupac are coming back

982
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: to do the halftime show. I don't give a rip.

983
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I again, I didn't even know that was happening.

984
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: That's how much I care about it.

985
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: That's what I love about you, Matt. You are ball

986
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: and straight ball only, and I'm the one who has

987
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: to get caught up in the spin cycle of the

988
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: outrage machine. If you're complaining about the super Bowl halftime show,

989
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: you're doing it wrong.

990
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, who would? I can't imagine.

991
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: That's when I go to the bathroom and get more

992
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: food and like, check my phone. I don't give a

993
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: rip about a twelve minute lip SyncE halftime show. And

994
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: if it's one of your favorite artists, watch cool. Even

995
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: if it is, guess what, they're not really performing. They're

996
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: lip syncing, and it's the most rehearsed produced production ever.

997
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: It's not a real live show. Get out of here,

998
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: miss me with that. Not to be critical, that's what

999
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: was bothering me.

1000
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: I totally get it.

1001
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: But that's what I like about you, met is you

1002
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: are just straight ball. You are just ball and not

1003
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: phased by anything else. If you're out there complaining about

1004
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: the halftime show, guess what, you don't have to watch.

1005
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: No one's gonna force it.

1006
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: They're not going to be there.

1007
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess if you're going to leave stadium.

1008
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: Right, and you were hoping that you're paying somebody yourand

1009
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: and you're like, I'm lumping that in as part of

1010
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: my package.

1011
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: Kingstein or one of those type of artists.

1012
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, well you're most of you aren't going.

1013
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: Other than that, go on YouTube and put on a

1014
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: twelve minute concert clip from somebody that you would rather

1015
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: How about that. It'll be the same effect. Big thanks

1016
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: to Chris Hallick for joining us today. Big thank you

1017
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: to Tyler V mister TV, our YouTube video producer. And

1018
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: a shout out to the best co host in the business,

1019
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. That'll do it for us today. We'll be

1020
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: back tomorrow. Like Matt said, little spoiler alert for you. Tomorrow,

1021
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: we're going to do a beefy segment on some of

1022
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: these college quarterbacks, good good and a couple of the

1023
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: names we've been discussing, a couple of new names that

1024
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: have certainly thrown their hat into that ring. That'll be

1025
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: one of the things that we do to.

1026
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: Get to it. But I just got an email. I

1027
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: subscribe to that JT. O. Sullivan Quarterback School, and like

1028
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: five minutes ago in my inbox, he's breaking down Dante

1029
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: more birth Penn State. So I'm gonna hope to watch

1030
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: that tonight so I can speak more intelligently about him.

1031
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: I've been wanting to dig in heavy.

1032
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: He's on everybody's radar after a very impressive start to

1033
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: the season in a great performance there right in that

1034
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: hostile environment, the white out and Happy Valley. We will

1035
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: definitely talk about him tomorrow. Penn State fans might want

1036
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: to tune out for those few minutes, but the rest

1037
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: of it, I promise. I think he's going well past

1038
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: all or at the moment. Oh yeah, yeah, he's in

1039
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: the proverbial of the draft is this weekend. Yeah, he's

1040
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: a top five pick, I would imagine, I mean like

1041
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: he might be the first off usual Mendoza, I do

1042
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: have a couple couple new names. Quarterback in Bama that's

1043
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: been lighting up, quarterback in Tennessee that's been lighting it up.

1044
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Will throw a couple new names into that conversation. Continue

1045
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: to talk about what looks like what could be one

1046
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: of these five, six, seven quarterbacks picked in the first

1047
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: round type of years in the NFL draft. Of course

1048
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: that is going here, that is going to be on

1049
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: the north shore of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in April, and certainly

1050
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: could one of those guys heading to the Black and Gold.

1051
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: But we'll get to all that and more tomorrow. Take care, everybody,

1052
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. As always, you know where

1053
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: to find us. It's on your twenty four to seven

1054
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: home of the Black and Gold. It's the Steelers Nation

1055
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.