1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 6: Yeah? 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 3: And so much for that. 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of the Break 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 7: presented by l G and we are here with Nick 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 7: and Brian. How are you guys feeling? Tomorrow is the 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 7: official start of the NFL Draft. I know you guys 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 7: are have been working for months for this draft. 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: How are we feel today? Feeling spacey? If you will? 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: We almost had a disaster. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: I was telling these guys before we got on the show, 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna work from home individual now. And so I've 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: found that I cannot actually work from home. So I 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: go to a coffee shop nearby and I was like, 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna get started about ten am 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 4: this morning. I got a lot of things to do today, 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 4: get ready for the draft tomorrow. So I'm on my 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: way to the coffee shop and I get the little 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: email notification from Chris Beam that the break is starting 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: in thirty minutes. I was like, oh, yeah, today is Wednesday. 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: I do have a show every Wednesday at ten am, 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 4: and I've had it for the last year. 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, I made it. 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: So I'm in a hoodie sweatpants, but I am here 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 4: technically working from home at the moment. 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 7: Well, we're glad you made it. I would have seen 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 7: Derek fuming with all right, well, let's get started. We're 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 7: gonna just wrap up everything pre draft, talk about while 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 7: you guys are expecting, who are your final top guys 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 7: and names that you're looking at as of today. And 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 7: before we get started with that, yesterday there was the 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 7: famous annual pre draft conference, that press conference at the 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 7: Cowboys hold. It was Will McClay, Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, 43 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 7: and Brian Schottenheimer speaking to the media. And while that 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 7: was happening, I wanted to bring something that happened yesterday. 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 7: We saw a sighting of Stephen Stephan Gilmour, former cornerback 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 7: that played here with the Cowboys for a couple of years. 47 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 7: I don't remember how long, just one year, just one year. 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 7: And then that popped a lot of questions like, Okay, 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 7: what is he doing here in the building? Are the 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 7: Cowboys looking to sign the guy and bring him back? 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 7: We know the need and necessity that the Cowboys are 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 7: currently having at the cornerback position. So any reports on 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 7: what's going on there, what is expected and why he 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 7: was here in the building. 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Cowboys didn't know. So there's a lot of 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: things that happen here in the Star. There's businesses on 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 4: the other side. There's probably a good chance. 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 7: That is it one of those quote unquote didn't know. 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: Who knows? 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't feel like digging enough to figure 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: out the meeting of that. But regardless, the Cowboys did 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: not have a meeting with him yesterday. If they did, 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: they wouldn't have scheduled it during the press conference. So no, 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: I could Stefan Gilmore, you know, stumble his way back 65 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 4: in here, maybe, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that, you know, Gilmore having played here, 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 8: he knows the building, he knows who the player a 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 8: lot is. Even if he came in for an official visit, 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 8: they wouldn't let him walk through the front door. Everybody's right, 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 8: Nick's right, talking about just across the way. There are 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 8: a lot of businesses here. He might have had a 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 8: meeting with somebody about, you know, something he's doing off 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 8: the field, and so that would be I think, what 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 8: would bring him here. But yeah, the player entrance is 75 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 8: completely different from the main entrance, and then he would 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 8: probably be walking with somebody. If he came in for 77 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 8: say a physical, for a workout, he would leave from 78 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 8: a different entrance. And then so that to me, I 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 8: think was just him probably you know, coming home, coming 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 8: by doing some business. And then it kind of ended 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 8: up that everybody happened to be in the media room, 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 8: which is right there off the age room. It's completely glass, 83 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 8: so you can see people coming and going, and I 84 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 8: just think the our media got an eye full of 85 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 8: a former cornerback here and had to scramble around a 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 8: little bit to kind of figure that out. 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 7: And then from those conversations that happened yesterday, there's still 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 7: a lot of talks and questions about whether or not 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 7: the Cowboys are willing to trade and trade conversations. Are 90 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 7: they willing to trade up back and get some more picks? 91 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 7: How are you guys currently feeling in that regards? We 92 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 7: know based on history, like Jerry Jones, is not afraid 93 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 7: of making any kind of trade. And this off season 94 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 7: during free agency, we've seen a lot more trades happening 95 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 7: that the Cowboys half made for veteran to add to 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 7: their roster. How are you guys feeling about heading into 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 7: the draft? Are you guys expecting a trade to happen? 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 4: I think if one is there, it certainly could be 99 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: on the table for them. I think this team wants 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: to trade back from fifteen and acquire some more capital, 101 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: or excuse me, trade back from twelve to acquire some 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: more capital. Fifteen happens to be an option for them, 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: I think to Atlanta, huh Atlanta. Yeah, Atlanta doesn't have 104 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: many picks, but they're looking to come up. So I 105 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: don't know if that would factor in future picks or 106 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: whatever else, but Cowboys need picks this year, you know. 107 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: I'm looking at Atlanta at fifteen, Seattle at eighteen, Denver 108 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 4: at twenty, and Houston at twenty five. I think those 109 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 4: are some opportunities that could potentially, you know, present themselves 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: to jump up. Even the Chiefs all the way back 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: in the back end of the first round. I wouldn't 112 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: be surprised if they pony up some major capital to 113 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: come up and take an offensive lineman if one slips. 114 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: But you know, obviously this team could use an extra 115 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: Day two pick a lot like it was last year. 116 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: And if that phone rings, then sure Jerry will pick 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: it up and see what the offer looks like. But 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 4: also another thing to factor in is there are not 119 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: a lot of teams looking to trade up this year necessarily, 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 4: and there are a lot looking to trade back. How 121 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: does that affect the market? You might not get the 122 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: value for your pick. We've talked about it on the 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 4: Draft Show, Brian has mentioned it. You know, you want 124 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: to get that value for your pick. There was a 125 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: report that came out this morning that a lot of 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: these Draft day first round type trades are being offered 127 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: for about seventy sits on the dollar, and so you 128 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: want you want value for that pick if you are 129 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: moving back. 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's a couple of different things that 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 8: we can focus on. And Nick took the draft route 132 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 8: of far as tradings and Jerry Jones mentioned it yesterday 133 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 8: and we've been pretty adamant about that throughout. Whether all 134 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 8: the platforms were on the Joneses are not interested in 135 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 8: picking up the phone. They're only interested in picking up 136 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 8: the phone if in fact that someone is calling them. 137 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 8: And I sat in that war room with them for 138 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 8: six years and kind of always we're thinking, well, maybe 139 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 8: we should be a little bit more here, maybe we 140 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 8: should try and do that. But they're pretty much set 141 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 8: on if they're if the phone is you're calling them, 142 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 8: they're willing to deal with you. They're not really interested 143 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 8: in calling you and trying to not get value for 144 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 8: their pick. So that's something that Jerry Jones was really 145 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 8: adamant about, and it's just again something that we've talked 146 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 8: about a bunch before. He even said that the cowboys 147 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 8: are interested in you know, you call them, they're not 148 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 8: going to call you. Now, let's focus on the other 149 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 8: end of it. You know, they were talking about substantial 150 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 8: names or potential names that could be trading. I have 151 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 8: a group of gang of seven that I like to 152 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 8: call around the league, some general managers, some directors of 153 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 8: player personnel who live and die this with these these 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 8: moves every day names I started to hear about and listen, 155 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 8: these are kind of cowboys fits. 156 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: Will they do these names? 157 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 8: I don't know, but these are names that my gang 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 8: of seven was talking about available players. 159 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: Jy R. 160 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 8: Alexander from the Green Bay Packers, we're talking about him. 161 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 8: Jalen Ramsey was a name that was mentioned as well 162 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 8: as the guy that you could absolutely have, Travis ATM 163 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 8: the running back was a name that was mentioned here. 164 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 8: George Pickens was a name also from the Pittsburgh Steelers. 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 8: And then also Jamison Wilson excuse me, Jamison Williams of 166 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 8: the Detroit Lions, and I was hearing that he was 167 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 8: available for like a third round pick. So those are names. Now, 168 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 8: will the Cowboys do that? Jerry talked about, you know 169 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 8: in the walk off. I believe Nick even tweeted about it, 170 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 8: you know, talking about that the Cowboys were looking at 171 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 8: some possibilities of making some moves. 172 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: Well it happened. We'll see. 173 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 8: But these are the types of names right now that 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 8: are being floated in the market. 175 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 7: Well as far as and I know it's probably unlikely. 176 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 7: How Nick just said that the Cowboys would trade up, 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 7: But is there a player that you would trade up for? 178 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 7: In how high did you guys go? 179 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: I mean, for me, it would only be if Travis 180 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: Hunter somehow slips to like seven or eight other than that, 181 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: I'm not trading up in this draft. I don't think 182 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: this team has any business doing. 183 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 8: So, Yeah, I think the one player we were trying 184 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 8: to in some of our again platforms that we've had, 185 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 8: we've tried to think about, you know, Travis Hunter for 186 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 8: a lot of us, was you know, is the number 187 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 8: one player on our board. If you stack your board 188 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 8: one to one P fifty, he would likely be number 189 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 8: one on a lot of boards. And so if in 190 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 8: fact that he and right now he's not going to 191 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 8: go one overall, now he probably can go too. 192 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: But what if he were to get to. 193 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 8: The Giants at three? What if he was to get 194 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 8: to New England at four, would you then consider moving 195 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 8: up to you know, go that And the way that 196 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 8: Nick is kind of talking about this that moving up 197 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 8: might not be as as harsh as we've seen in 198 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 8: the past, and so teams might be willing to come 199 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 8: out of there. But again, you want value for your pick. 200 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 8: Travis Hunter would be the one guy that I agree 201 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 8: with Nick on that that I think that I would 202 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 8: would probably try and trade up for if that was 203 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 8: the case. If he got into that range where it 204 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 8: was very where it was manageable, for you. 205 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 7: Okay, Now let's jump into a bunch of random questions 206 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 7: about the draft. Is there a position that you guys 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 7: will walk out of the draft feeling like, and I'm 208 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 7: speaking on day one, first round, that if the Cowboys 209 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 7: were to see like this position specifically, you guys would 210 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 7: be like. 211 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? 212 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: What is going on? 213 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 7: Or would you feel that at that position you pretty 214 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 7: much hit it, hit the nail in the head with whoever. 215 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 8: You pick, Nick, I'll take this one because if you 216 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 8: look at in this morning, Peter Schrager from ESPN, who's 217 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 8: a very respected insider around the league. 218 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: He was with the you know, with. 219 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 8: The with the the league, you know, with their television 220 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 8: program and stuff like that, the NFL that working things, 221 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 8: so very respected guy put out a mock draft today 222 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 8: where he had Mason Graham, the defensive tackle from Michigan, 223 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 8: going all the way past the Cowboys to thirteen, so 224 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 8: you know, and then the Cowboys were taking Tyler Booker 225 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 8: with McMillan also being on the board. It kind of 226 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 8: threw me for a loop a little bit there. But 227 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 8: if all of a sudden you're in a situation now, Nick, 228 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 8: I'll ask you this question too. 229 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: Would you feel. 230 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 8: Good about Mason Graham being that he's like a three 231 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 8: technique but could play the one technique with you signing 232 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 8: OsO DIGGI zuwell, would you feel that that's a good 233 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 8: pick for the Cowboys to do? And I also throw 234 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 8: Walter Nolan in that group as well. Where is three 235 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 8: technique now out of question for this football team with 236 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 8: what the additions like, I say, the signing of Osa 237 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 8: Solomon Thomas coming on board. Are you out of the 238 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 8: three technique business? 239 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 240 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 4: I think if it's a way where Mason Graham is 241 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: there for you at twelve, then I think that phone's 242 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 4: going to be ringing a lot more and you have 243 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: something pretty to dangle in front of them rather than 244 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: potentially getting seventy cents on the dollar. 245 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't see a need. 246 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: I don't believe so. 247 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: And I don't see a need for Mason Graham on 248 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: this team. I would see a need potentially, even if 249 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 4: this means trading back to where you don't have any 250 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: first round grades anymore and you're at twenty, I think 251 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: that would be worth it to pick up an extra 252 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: pick in this sense. 253 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 8: Okay, so you would feel like the me personally, I 254 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 8: don't think that the one position that I kind of 255 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 8: felt that and that's why I brought up the defensive 256 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 8: tackles was because I kind of feel like, unless it's 257 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 8: a one technique, but I don't see them taking a 258 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 8: one technique unless you want to play Mason Graham, who 259 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 8: could play the one. I mean, he lost a ton 260 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 8: of weight to you know, there were questions about him 261 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 8: at the combine that you know, his his workout was 262 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 8: not going to look good and there were so he 263 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 8: lost a ton of weight to try and make himself 264 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 8: more agile, more you know, flexible in all those things. 265 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 8: But when he plays like a three hundred and twenty pounds, 266 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 8: which we had him, you know, he's kind of a 267 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 8: different player that way. So maybe that was thinking he's 268 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 8: a one, but with a little bit of a lighter guy, 269 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 8: he would probably be a three. But do you think 270 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 8: he can be a one? He would be really it'd 271 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 8: be incredible to have him next to Osa, But do 272 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 8: you feel that's the way? I just think tackle might 273 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 8: be that position where I kind of feel that might 274 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 8: be a little bit of an issue there. 275 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 4: I mean, he does have some mental attributes that I 276 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: think would work at the one he's he's got high IQ, 277 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: he's got a high motor. I think he's got some 278 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: game traits as well. He's flexible, he gets low. You're 279 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 4: talking about low man winning in that interior. He does 280 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: get low, and I think he'd be able to still 281 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: get low against shorter centers if that's the case. He 282 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: didn't face a ton of double teams last year, so 283 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: he was lined up one on one with guys a 284 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: lot quite a bit. He would have to battle that, 285 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: especially if he had to make a position change to 286 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: the one tech. 287 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: But I think he's quick enough it would it would 288 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: work out. 289 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: I mean, this was a heavyweight wrestling champion back in 290 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: high school at Anaheim Survid High School. Oddly enough, we 291 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 4: graduated high school with Heteroa McMillan. So I think it 292 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: would be a fascinating, you know, decision to make between 293 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 4: two survey guys. 294 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: I think that would be fascinating. 295 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 7: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 296 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 7: we'll keep talking about the drafting. 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You know 360 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: we need to press Derek about these TVs. 361 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 7: He said he has something in the works, but not 362 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 7: for us, for the fans. 363 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: I gotta ask him about that. You're a fan. 364 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Mandio sweatpants today. I certainly looked the part. 365 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 7: Welcome back to the second segment, presented by blockchain dot Com. 366 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: Ding. 367 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 7: Okay, let's move on to we've there's a group of 368 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 7: guys and these are the names that we keep hearing about. Popular, 369 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 7: most popular names and most likely to be picked by 370 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys in the first round. But my question, sorry, 371 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 7: my question to you guys, is who's a prospect that 372 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 7: you're lower on on than most someone that a lot 373 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 7: of people have been talking about, but you don't grade 374 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 7: them as high as the main like the popular opinion. 375 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: Or the general push taking it like first round type guys. 376 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 7: Yes, or you know if I mean that's the easiest 377 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 7: one because it's harder to get into those later rounds. 378 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 7: But if there's a guy that you have in mind, 379 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 7: feel free to throw it out there, which you. 380 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 3: Got, Brian. 381 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 8: I think that I'm a lot lower and I think 382 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 8: the guys are really good player and I picked him 383 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 8: yesterday and our mock draft that when we were asked 384 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 8: on the Draft Show, three guys. I put myself in 385 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 8: a position, what would the Dallas Cowboys do if McMillan's 386 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 8: not there, who would they consider? I'm lower on Will 387 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 8: Johnson than most. I have Will Johnson as my twenty 388 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 8: fifth best player on my board, of my of my stack. 389 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 8: Still that's a second round grade. I personally just like 390 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 8: guys like ravel Baron Morrison who worked out Notre Dame, 391 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 8: who worked out yes Day. You know they got that 392 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 8: information about him. I just like those guys a little 393 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 8: bit better. But the question was asked, and I appreciate 394 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 8: Kyle Yeomen's doing this was he asked the questions about 395 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 8: length and what that means to evaluators here, and it's 396 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 8: important for them, and you know they talk about that. 397 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 8: But I think that I'm probably at twenty five, a 398 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 8: little bit lower on Will Johnson than maybe some other 399 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 8: people in this league. I think some people have him 400 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 8: in the top fifteen. I just have guys better. If 401 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 8: he's selected, though, this guy is a really good football player, 402 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 8: But like I said, have others above him right now? 403 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go with a defensive tackle, Walter 404 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: Nolan out of Ole Miss. This is a guy that's 405 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: gotten a lot of first round love and has even 406 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: been one of the five hundred and thirty seven names 407 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: thrown around for potentials for the Cowboys to pick at twelve. 408 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: I have a third round grandt on Walter Nolan. 409 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: I don't think there's a lot of motor and Walter 410 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 4: Nolan now that he does have lower body strength and 411 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: that translates into explosiveness off the line, and he's got 412 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: the ability to create leverage. I mean, this is still 413 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 4: a good player. He's a shore tackler. He combines athleticism 414 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: with some upper body strength to be a shore tackler. 415 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 4: But he kind of sputtered out of the gates at 416 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 4: Texas A and M as a number one overall recruit. 417 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: There's questions from his time in college station does this 418 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: guy love football? He doesn't get rave character reviews all 419 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: the way back to his high school days. 420 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: He's been to six different schools in the last eight years. 421 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 4: Going all the way back to his high school days 422 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: and even middle school days too, So I don't know. 423 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: I just think there are better defensive tackles in this class. 424 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: He's my DT seven. I have a third round grade 425 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: on him, and actually have him behind some guys in 426 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: the third round, So that's probably one. 427 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 7: Well, let's switch the question and change it up a 428 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 7: little bit. What's the sneaky Day two or Day three 429 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 7: name that Cowboys fans should know about them? Potentially not 430 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 7: many people are talking about, but you guys have grated 431 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 7: them a little higher. 432 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: Man putting us on the spot here, you think. 433 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 8: Would you would you look at the running backs? I 434 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 8: know we've talked about a lot of different running backs, 435 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 8: but the name that keeps popping up, and he's a 436 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 8: really good player, is our running back from Virginia Tech. 437 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely to a lot of people have talked about Touton. 438 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but have they talked about him Dave? 439 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 8: I think we've talked about him more as a third 440 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 8: round guy, but there seems to be some buzz about 441 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 8: him being a second round guy. 442 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 443 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: That that that to me? Like I said, I I 444 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: would see. 445 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 8: Him more as a third I yesterday again in our 446 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 8: mock draft for the draft show, I picked Henderson. Now, 447 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 8: do I think Henderson's going to be there? Probably not, 448 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 8: But you know, I'm going to take a chance that 449 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 8: maybe that he gets through to you at forty four. 450 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 8: That would I would absolutely love, But I think when 451 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 8: you start that there's been other names that we've talked about, 452 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 8: and the Cowboys brought him in then for a thirty visit, 453 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 8: and you know, this is to get to know this guy. 454 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 8: On my book, he's kind of in that that slotted 455 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 8: with Sampson from Tennessee and guys like that is a 456 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 8: third round guy. Could he get taken at forty four? 457 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 8: Absolutely that you know that that's again that might be 458 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 8: guy I have a little bit lower on my board, 459 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 8: but I could see the Cowboys absolutely taking him at 460 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 8: a guy a lot maybe around earlier than what I 461 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 8: would take him. 462 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: Again, you're kind of putting me on the spot here. 463 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Now you're all right, I'm gonna 464 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: go with Fidel Diggs. Ed Drusher out of Syracuse six 465 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 4: four two fifty seven originally began his career at Texas 466 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: A and M. He's a versatile guy. He's He's played 467 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: up and down the line. He's even played some snaps 468 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 4: in the box too. He played almost twenty five percent 469 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 4: of his snaps off the ball last year. He can 470 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: do a lot of different things for a defense. He's 471 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 4: a defensive chess piece. I have a late third round 472 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: grade on him. I think this will be a guy 473 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: that's available on Day three and it could certainly make 474 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 4: sense for a team like this that is definitely hunting 475 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: down a bigger set type of edge. And if they 476 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 4: don't get that guy in the first couple of days, 477 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: I think Fidel Digs makes a lot of sense if 478 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: he's there in the fifth. 479 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: And I know, when you guys are looking at the 480 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 7: draft for so long or looking at all these college 481 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 7: players and prospects, sometimes you end up falling in love 482 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 7: with somebody, with a player that you really really like. 483 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 7: And it doesn't necessarily mean a first round grade. It's 484 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 7: somebody that you just see a lot of potential. And 485 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 7: I was trying to google the word, but is it? 486 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: Is it pet cat or Okay? 487 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: I could not two words, but yes, you're right, pet cat, 488 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 4: pet cat? 489 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: Two words? Okay. I was cooling. 490 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 7: It was started showing MRIs and cat scans. I'm like, 491 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 7: what is going on? But who would you say? Who's 492 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 7: the name the guy that would be your pet cat. 493 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 6: For this year? 494 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: In this draft? 495 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: Oh man, I feel like I feel like this is 496 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: the second year in a row that I've had a 497 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 4: running back as my cat and I know we just 498 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: brought him up Big schol Tooton out of Virginia Tech. 499 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: I mean, he's He's been a guy that I've ridden 500 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: with throughout this draft process, and I know I've I've 501 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: mentioned quite a few running backs that I love, but 502 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 4: He's He's certainly one I think I would take. And 503 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 4: I'll just give you another one on the other side 504 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: of the ball, just for twots and giggles, if you will, 505 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: to see what I did there. I like Riley Mills, 506 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 4: defensive tackle out of Notre Dame. Not necessarily for this team, 507 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: but just in general. He's a three tech that played 508 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: for Notre Dame last year. He got hurt towards the 509 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: end of the season, so you didn't see him in 510 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 4: the College Football Playoff, which is unfortunate. But he has 511 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 4: three tech five tech versatility. I think he has rare 512 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 4: strength at six five two ninety six. He's athletic. His 513 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: pass rush begins with his hands and he gets into 514 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: the backfield. Had seven and a half sacks in twelve 515 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: games last year. Coming out of the defensive interior. There's 516 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: a lot of pass rush upside. There are teams that 517 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: look for these pass rushing interior defenders that can create 518 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: some trouble from the interior to open up their edge 519 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: rush guys. I think Riley Mills would be that type 520 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: of talent. He's he's been a guy that I've really 521 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: fallen in love with over the course of the last 522 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: month or so. 523 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think my guy would be Carson Swezinger from UCLA, 524 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 8: the linebacker. I absolutely love the way that he plays. 525 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 8: You know, you're you're watching this guy and he was, 526 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 8: you know, in two hundred and twenty pound range. He's 527 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 8: bulked up a little bit to two forty two at 528 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 8: the combine, but he's he's kind of a throwback in 529 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 8: the way he plays. I mean he doesn't he didn't 530 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 8: at the time when you're watching the tape. He didn't 531 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 8: have really true bulk. His instincts, his toughness as a 532 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 8: run defender is really really good. He could play down hill, 533 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 8: he tackles well, you know, and you watch him play, 534 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 8: he can play and coverage, he could blitz. There's some 535 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 8: complete elements to his game as a linebacker. And you know, 536 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 8: maybe the Cowboys were a year or a draft early 537 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 8: with with taking you know, taking their Notre Dame linebacker 538 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 8: last year, I think this would have been a guy 539 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 8: that new look at Carson Sweazer term. For me, I 540 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 8: fell in love with the game. I couldn't believe a 541 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 8: guy that was playing at two hundred and twenty pounds 542 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 8: played with the physicality and the instincts and the downhill. 543 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: Ability that this kid had. 544 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 8: He went from like being a guy that not maybe 545 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 8: not many were talking about, maybe a third round guy. 546 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 8: He's going to probably get taken in the second round early. 547 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 8: But just because of the things that I talked about, 548 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 8: the traits, I. 549 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: Got to throw another one out there. This is probably 550 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 4: outside of the top twenty. This is probably my favorite 551 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: player in the class. Is Maxwell Harrison Corner out of Kentucky. Yeah, speed, acceleration, physicality, 552 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 4: ballhawk ability, it's all there. He's got a slender build, 553 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 4: but he's a solid tackler, and I think there's more 554 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: room to fill out his frame with that center build. 555 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: Slender build, but he can still play the run effectively 556 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: as well. He's a guy that I think if he 557 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: slipped to forty four, it'd be tough for this team 558 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 4: to pass on. I don't see it happening, but man, 559 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 4: this is a really talented player. I think is gonna 560 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 4: start Day one. 561 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 8: Wherever you land, he's they're talking about him now like 562 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 8: as a first round guy, like the back end in 563 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 8: the fact of the first round. Amber, I know you 564 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 8: probably have another question if Nick's gonna if Nick's gonna 565 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 8: throw throw more guys in there. Uh le Quintin Allen 566 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 8: from Syracuse. And if you watch him play, there's some 567 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 8: violence to his game. He's a he's a running back 568 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 8: that when he takes that the handoff, he is going 569 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 8: north south in a hurry. And he is a guy 570 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 8: that when I always say this about a runner and 571 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 8: it's gonna he does not really make anybody miss. He 572 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 8: is going to run until he hears glass break. That's 573 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 8: how he just his style is he's just just kind 574 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 8: of just gonna run into people, run over people, bounce 575 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 8: off people. He's super tough. He doesn't he doesn't, you know, 576 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 8: with all the carries. 577 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: And that he has. 578 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 8: You know, they say, well, he's put the ball on 579 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 8: the ground a little bit, but all of it has 580 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 8: been really because of second and third contact with him, 581 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 8: He's always fighting for extra yards. He's tough around the 582 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 8: goal line, and he catches the ball really really well. 583 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 8: So here's a guy that kind of like Smith from 584 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 8: SCMU at running back who is a converted wide receiver 585 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 8: to running back. You're looking for these running backs that 586 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 8: have the ability to catch the football. Really kind of 587 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 8: the opposite of what Tooton, who we talked about earlier though, 588 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 8: Virginia Tech's offense really not getting the running back into 589 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 8: the passing game like say the SMU and then Syracuse. 590 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: But my man, he is a tough, tough, tough guy. 591 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 7: Let's go ahead and go to our final break. 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If Dallas doesn't draft A or N 652 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 7: by day two, we've got a problem. 653 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: Corner corner is it for me? 654 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: It would This team has a very glaring red light 655 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: at corner I think, bigger than any other position. They 656 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: only have one starter that's ready to go to start 657 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 4: the year. I mean, there's confidence in this building about 658 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 4: kaye Elam, but kyer Elam also hasn't touched the field 659 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: for this team yet, so. 660 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: They got to get a corner on the first two days. 661 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: About one technique looking at that at all. 662 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: More than a receiver, I understand where you're coming from. 663 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, there's there's two positions. I really think. 664 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 8: I think they probably feel like that they could play 665 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 8: with the receivers they have, But me personally, I would 666 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 8: think runner. I mean, I know this running back group 667 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 8: is deep, but I'm trying to get I'm trying to 668 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 8: get that to me, what I on my board would 669 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 8: be the upper echelon type of backs. 670 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: I think there's some good backs. 671 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 8: But I think there's three positions you could look at 672 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 8: and say, you know, Nick's right about the corner, but 673 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 8: the one technique running back and corner would be you know, 674 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 8: I think that would be the the three that I 675 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 8: would look at. But for sure that that that one 676 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 8: technique is is kind of a scary thing right now. 677 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 4: One caveat in this whole ordeal, especially when you factor 678 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 4: in the glaring needs going into the first two days, 679 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: is that all of our boards just kind of got 680 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 4: blown up yesterday when Jerry said that they were working 681 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: on two substantive trades, because that that could factor in 682 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: at any position. And if they go into day three, 683 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: say without a receiver, without a corner, you know, who's 684 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: to say that they aren't working on something to fill 685 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 4: that need on the back end. I'm not confident that 686 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: it would be for more than like a fifth or 687 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: sixth round pick, and it would be another kayr Elam 688 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: type of addition, but maybe just kind of rational. 689 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not substantial. 690 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 8: I mean, giving giving up a giving up a day, 691 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 8: a Day two pick that that would be substantial. 692 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. 693 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 7: The position that will define this draft class for the 694 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 7: Cowboys is. 695 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: The position probably probably the running back. 696 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make up case for the receiver, especially 697 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: if that receiver gets taken in the first round. But 698 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: if you know, based on what Brian Schottenheimer said in 699 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: Florida about the identity of this team, he wants to 700 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: be physical, he wants to run the football. The additions 701 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: that they've made on the offensive side of the ball 702 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: to help run the football. Uh, this running back that 703 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: gets drafted to this team, whether it be first, second, third, fourth, fifth, whatever, 704 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: he is going to be a future part of this offense. 705 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 4: And uh, it's it's like Ezekiel Elliott in twenty sixteen. 706 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: I know he was the fourth overall pick. It's much different. 707 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: But even in a draft class with Dak Prescott, he 708 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: was the identity of that draft class. And you know 709 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: it's going to it's going to be a similar type 710 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: field this year. There's gonna be a lot of eyes 711 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 4: on whoever that running back is that comes in. 712 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 8: Cowboy's got a real big dose of reality last year 713 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 8: when they not went the running backs that they went against. 714 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 8: When you talk about Henry and then you talk about 715 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 8: Saquon Barkley, and Jerry even mentioned that that opened their 716 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 8: eyes to what they need. So I think Nick's absolutely right. 717 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 8: I think the running back here could very well define, 718 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 8: you know, how this offense is going to be going forward. 719 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 7: If we draft Blank, Cowboys, Twitter or X will melt. 720 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: Down Johnson because of Brian No, it's I think, gosh, 721 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of actually, there's a lot 722 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: of possibilities here interior offensive line. 723 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: I think Tyler Booker would melt this thing down. 724 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if they took an interior offensive line 725 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 4: and it would melt down on the planet. 726 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: But even Tyler Booker, it would not be a bad pick. No, 727 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: it's not meltdown worthy. 728 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 729 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 8: And to me though, it's you know, the thing of it, 730 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 8: and like the thing you talked about with the Will 731 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 8: Johnson stuff, you know, there's just a lot of questions 732 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 8: about Will Johnson. You know, there's a lot of there's 733 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 8: a lot of questions. I mean, I think we got 734 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 8: some information about, you know, the injury history, and I 735 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 8: think there's some teams around the league that I know 736 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 8: I've talked to that are concerned about his injury history. 737 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 8: But they see these players a lot different. They don't 738 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 8: give a damn what Nick and I think. They really 739 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 8: don't and so don't get mad at you know, if 740 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 8: all of a sudden they take somebody that's you know, 741 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 8: that we haven't talked about or we like, they don't care. 742 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 8: So I'm not a I'm I've said this a thousand times. 743 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 8: I'm a I like Will Johnson. I just have three 744 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 8: cornerbacks above him that I like better. 745 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 3: That's just me. 746 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 8: That's that's my job. And so you know, if you 747 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 8: want to melt down because it's something I said, well 748 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 8: then you know that's on you. Yeah, exactly, don't know. 749 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 8: You know, Will Johnson would be a fine player here. 750 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 8: He absolutely would fit a need that they have. Cornerback 751 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 8: is Nick's talked about is something that they have a 752 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 8: lot of questions about right now. 753 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 4: I think this team is star art not this team. 754 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 4: This fan base is starved for a sexy first round pick. 755 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 4: The last three have been in the trenches. It's been 756 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 4: Tyler Smith and Monzie Smith and then Tyler Geiden this 757 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 4: last year. I think this team is also again fan 758 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: base is also just starved to have a flashy guy 759 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: that they can look at at training camp and have 760 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 4: some fun with selfishly training camp content purposes. Wise, I 761 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 4: would love a sexy pick as well, because last year 762 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 4: was very bad from a training camp content perspective. The 763 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: first round pick was half hurt of the half of 764 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: the camp as Ceedee Lamb was not present the entire time. 765 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 4: It was bad for us going into like week two. 766 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 7: Well, history has shown when we looked at all the 767 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 7: drafts that the Cowys have had and correct me if 768 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 7: I'm wrong, but typically in round two, in the second round, 769 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 7: sometimes it's take risks with players that have kind of 770 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 7: fallen down, whether because of whatever issue going on with 771 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 7: them or typically injury wise or recovering from something. Are 772 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 7: you are the Cowboys, I should say, in a position 773 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 7: where they are able to take those kinds of risk 774 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 7: looking more towards development in the future, or you absolutely 775 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 7: need to make sure that everyone that you're taking is 776 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 7: for someone that is able to make an impact, an 777 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 7: immediate impact this year. 778 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fascinating question because I think if you 779 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 4: look back on the last two picks that they've made 780 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 4: in the first round Mozzie Smith, Tyler Guiden, I think 781 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 4: either of us could have told you on draft night 782 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 4: and probably did, is that, Hey, this is going to 783 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 4: take some time. This is going to be some marinating 784 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 4: and we've seen the you know struggles of those marinations, 785 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 4: I guess over the course of the last two years 786 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 4: with those two picks. And you know, those guys still 787 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 4: have some time. But it's they have not played to 788 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 4: the lovel a first round pick yet. And I know 789 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: you were talking more so about you know, other rounds 790 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 4: as well, but this team needs impact starters. They need 791 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: an impact starter at receiver, running back, corner. I think 792 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: they needed at one tech as well. Yeah, and I 793 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 4: don't I understand the idea of draft and develop, and 794 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: this team could certainly do it with a with a 795 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 4: with a guy that doesn't have a lot of experience, 796 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 4: but I think you should be hunting the experience in 797 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 4: this class. 798 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, to me, the possibility where they could 799 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 8: maybe do some good and Nick correct me if I'm wrong. 800 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 8: We mentioned corner, you know, could they could revel from 801 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 8: from East Carolina? Could morson both first round guys on 802 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 8: a lot of people's boards. Could they end up at 803 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 8: forty four? Could they be those impact type players? Could 804 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 8: you get a starter at forty four at corner, a 805 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 8: guy that in my opinion, like I say, I know 806 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 8: Morson probably not a first round great on your board, 807 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 8: but on my board he is. But could they get 808 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 8: a first round talent at corner because of having to 809 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 8: deal with an injury or something like that. 810 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's certainly a possibility. Revel would be a 811 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 4: fun one and when he gets fully healthy, it'll be 812 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 4: an impact player on this team. But you would have 813 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 4: the same issue you had today if you did draft Revel, 814 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: is the fact that you don't have three starting corners 815 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 4: ready to go to start the season. You would almost 816 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 4: certainly have to double divot corner later in the draft 817 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 4: just to have another body there. But I think for 818 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 4: the long term, a Revel guy could certainly work, and 819 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 4: not only off the injury, but one year of starting 820 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 4: experience in the American Athletic Conference, there's going to be 821 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 4: a jumping competition for him. 822 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: There's going to be some development there. But the upside 823 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: is super super large. 824 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: Well, as we begin to. 825 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 7: Wrap up this conversation, we can always talk about what 826 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 7: we prefer and what you guys like and all that, 827 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 7: but looking at the through the lens of the Dallas 828 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 7: Cowboys and what they typically do. What is the most 829 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 7: Cowboys type pick in this draft? In what sense as 830 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 7: far as player wise, what. 831 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: Player bet fits the bill for how they usually draft? 832 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 7: Yes, because usually they. 833 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: You know what I think, I'm confused by the question. 834 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 7: You always have you always have your pick, your guy 835 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 7: that you like, but it's like it doesn't necessarily align 836 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 7: with what the Cowboys would do necessarily. So that's what 837 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 7: I'm saying. It's like, aside from your picks, you guys 838 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 7: have given me guys that you like headed into this draft, 839 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 7: but when you look at from their perspective and what 840 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 7: they typically do, what is looking through their lens the 841 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 7: type of player that they would be more tours picking. 842 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because this is a guy that 843 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 4: I think has been thrown around quite a bit, and 844 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 4: you think about the success that the Cowboys have had 845 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 4: in the first round on the offensive line. Yeah, over 846 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 4: the course of the year, Josh Simmons kind of feels 847 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 4: like a Cowboys type pick. 848 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 8: I was, That's exactly who I was going to say. 849 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 8: I was going to see if you were going to 850 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 8: do it. But yeah, Josh Simmons from Ohio State, Uh, 851 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 8: this is my favorite offensive lineman in the draft. I 852 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 8: mean I have him as if you look at again 853 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 8: at my stack, which is it's important to me. The 854 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 8: Cowboys can care less about how I see these guys. 855 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 8: But you know when you when you start to talk 856 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 8: about this player, and I'll tell you I I'm in 857 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 8: the top five when it comes to my uh my stack. 858 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 8: So I think that much of this player and that 859 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 8: would be a guide. 860 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 3: To me that you know he has. 861 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's coming off the patella. Okay, so you know 862 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 8: we're talking about that whole thing with the knee. But 863 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 8: you watch this guy play. There's a lot of questions 864 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 8: about these offensive tackles. 865 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's. 866 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 8: Questions about Will Campbell Memboo, you know guys like that. 867 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 8: There's questions about with Banks at Texas. To me, when 868 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 8: you watch this guy play, if he did not get hurt, 869 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 8: he'd be the first tackle taking off the board. We 870 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 8: all these other guys at Campbell's and all, but you 871 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 8: this this that would be very much a not not 872 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 8: a pick that everybody's kind of worried about him maybe 873 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 8: being healthy enough. But that's the kind of that that 874 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 8: they look at, Well, maybe the guy's a little banged up, 875 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 8: but here's the value this guy. You could hit on 876 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 8: this with this player. But yeah, Josh Simmons would be 877 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 8: that guy for me. 878 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 4: I tell you, if this team did draft for Josh 879 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 4: Simmons in the first round, there would be such a 880 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 4: fascinating discussion to be had in that Thursday night press 881 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: conference with Jerry Stephen and Will McClay and Brian Schottenneimer. 882 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 4: It's like, what the hell are you gonna do with him? 883 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 4: Because you have your left tackle that you drafted the. 884 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: First claim it left tackle. I don't have your right 885 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 3: I did not have time. 886 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 4: It would they would basically have to say, hey, we're 887 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 4: gonna have to give up on one of these tackles. 888 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: I mean they would have to say. 889 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: It, yeah, and you know what, and then you let 890 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 3: him compete. 891 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 8: You just move, you move, geton over to right tackle, 892 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 8: and he competes with steel and then away you go. 893 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 8: And if he's good enough to compete and he's able, 894 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 8: he's one of maybe he wins the job, or maybe 895 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 8: it gives you the flexibility where all of a sudden 896 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 8: he comes with the attitude like Okay, I'm not gonna 897 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 8: be I'm gonna work hard, I'm gonna do things. 898 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what they asked me to do. I'm 899 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 3: gonna be ready. 900 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 8: I'm gonna you know, all the experiences that I ad 901 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 8: in the past, I'm gonna put behind me and I'm 902 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 8: gonna go forward. He could be that, or he could 903 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 8: just kind of just keep the same type of attitude 904 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 8: that he has right now and then not beat Steel 905 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 8: out and then he could go on the uh go 906 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 8: on and be a guy that we never talk about again. 907 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 8: So to me, I like I said, I there's teams 908 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 8: that I admire around football that like when when they 909 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 8: make a pick and it doesn't work, they move on. 910 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 8: They just do not hold on, They just move you. 911 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 8: If you were to take Josh, if you were to 912 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 8: take Josh Simmons, he's your starter at left tackle, and 913 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 8: don't worry about it. Him and Smith on that left 914 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 8: side would do just as I think, just as good 915 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 8: as I like Jackson. Donovan Jackson in this draft from 916 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 8: from Ohio State, who plays left guard next played left 917 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 8: guard next to Simmons. There's reasons why when you watch 918 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 8: Ohio State run the football that these guys are blocking 919 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 8: and the and that and their running game is successful 920 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 8: and the protection that Will Howard had to throw the 921 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 8: football this year because of those two guys over there. 922 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 8: You could get the same thing with Simmons and Smith 923 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 8: on that left side for Dak Prescott and just a 924 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 8: quick sidebar. 925 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 4: It's it's funny, how how when you mentioned an Ohio 926 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: State guy in this draft? How safe is typically on 927 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 4: the back side of it. There are so many safe 928 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 4: players that are wearing that Buckeye helmet from year. You 929 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 4: talk about Josh Simmons, Well, yes, the injury, but I 930 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: from what I know, I think the knee is not 931 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 4: a concern for team. Josh Simmons, Donovan Jackson, a Mecha Buga, 932 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 4: Trevon Henderson, j T. Tumolowow, and Quinn Shawn Judkins. I 933 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 4: would qualify all those guys as safe. And they're all 934 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 4: from Ohio State. 935 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 3: There's reason why they won the national champions Do. 936 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: You understand it? 937 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 4: Whenever you start isolating these guys and seeing how dominant 938 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 4: that they were last season, it's really impressive. And then 939 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: they also had the best receiver in college football who's 940 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 4: not draft eligible. 941 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 7: Yea, our time is up, but super super fast. I 942 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 7: have one last question because someone sent it in. This 943 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 7: person was asking looking at this draft, and we typically 944 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 7: know whether the Cowboys walk out with more defensive players 945 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 7: or more offensive or kind of a good even balance 946 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 7: between the two sides of ball. Which side do you 947 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 7: guys think is going to be the most dominant one 948 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 7: walking out of the draft, meaning which side is. 949 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 2: Going to have the most picks? 950 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 7: Defense? 951 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 3: Offense, offense. 952 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 8: I think they addressed in what they did in free agency, 953 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 8: how they played it with the trades and stuff they made. 954 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 8: Not to say that they're not going to draft any 955 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 8: defensive players, but I think they're going to try and 956 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 8: help their quarterback the best they can. 957 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 4: I agree, And Schuttenheimer kind of mentioned it in his 958 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 4: meeting in Florida. He was like, Yeah, if you look 959 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 4: at our free agent moves, you would think we're a 960 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 4: defensive minded team. But you think you have a defensive 961 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 4: head coach. But he said, I'm going to get some 962 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 4: help for this offensive side of the ball. I think 963 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 4: it's the offense as well well. 964 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 7: Tomorrow is the star of the NFL Draft, the Stars 965 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 7: at seven Central time, and we also have the Draft 966 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 7: show that's going to go on all through the draft. Obviously, 967 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 7: but you guys start at what time? Six o'clock, six o'clock. 968 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 7: Both of you are going to be there? Are you 969 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 7: on the draft? 970 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: Kind of in eirteen hours. 971 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 7: I don't know how you guys do it, but tune 972 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 7: in on dallascowboys dot com. These guys will be live 973 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 7: one hour before the draft all the way through the draft, 974 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 7: and what's cool, you guys get a lot of a 975 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 7: chance to get interviews with a lot of these players 976 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 7: are picked by the Cowboys, so that's always good to 977 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 7: hear once you get a feel of their personality and 978 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 7: their voices on there, anything else you guys want to 979 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 7: say pre draft. 980 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 4: Also on day three we'll be able to interview scouts 981 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 4: and get some really good perspective from those guys going 982 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 4: into day three and then before the picks are made. 983 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 4: Chris Pine does a great job in the back of 984 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 4: throwing up some war room footage for us and seeing 985 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 4: what the debates are being like being had in the 986 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 4: war room. 987 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 2: It's a fascinating time. 988 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: It's a great weekend, and it's a weekend that everyone 989 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 4: comes out of nine times out of ten is happy. 990 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 4: So I say, let's have some fun this weekend again, 991 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 4: happy and exhausted, but it's. 992 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: Always a fun time, all right. 993 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 7: Well, thank you guys so much for Nick Harris, Brian 994 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 7: Brads I remember you're see how This has been the 995 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 7: break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com radio. 996 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dellas Cowboys dot Com 997 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.