1 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome to a brand new episode of 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Funky in the Champ. I'm Daniel Cormier that has been asking. 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Today's episode is brought to you by Total Wireless, the 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: official wireless provider of UFC. They are in your corner 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: when unlimited five G data that will not slow you down. Now, 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: that is a total power move. So ben power move 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: are non power move on Dana White's behalf and then 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: on the flip side of the coin, power move are 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: not a power move on John Jones's behalf for calling 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: him out. 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: Wow, I never really thought about a power move context. 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: But you know, I've talked about the show. 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: I've had the. 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Experience of Dana not telling the truth about me, So 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: I know what that feels like, and I know that 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm probably not supposed totally trust everything that he says. 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: That being said, John is equally as enigmatic. You know, 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: he fights, he doesn't want to fight, and you know, 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: really when you look at his record, he very intermittently fights. 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: He has not fought a lot. 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: Honestly, I was thinking even the last decade, I should 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: go look it up the fact check myself. I know 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty he fought three times, but I want to 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: see the other. The other nine years of that decade, 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: he probably fought less than nine times, I would guess, 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: which is less than once a year. And you know, 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: we talked, I think the last time about the value 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: of fighters and the issue there are we never we 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: were going to talk about that. We didn't, but an 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: interesting topic. But I know I'm sure they said, hey, John, 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: we're not paying you anymore, and he wanted to be 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: paid more, And honestly, that's probably what it comes down to. 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so let me read you what happened. Yes, Dana, 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: you were heated about why I'm not on the White 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: House card, but let's clear something up. My team and 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: I were actually negotiating with the UFC for that fight, 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: real negotiations. I even came down from my original number 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: and what I was offered in return. Question mark, I 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: was low balled. If the UFC truly feels like I'm done, 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: then I respectfully asked to be released from my contract. 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Before that, he said, yes, I do have althorritis in 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: my hip and it's painful, but that doesn't mean I 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: can't fight. So let me get this straight. If I 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: had accepted the low ball offer suddenly my hip would 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: be fine and I'd be on the White House card. 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: He goes, that does not make sense to me. So 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: where this started was on Saturday, Dana said something to 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: the effect of John Jones was never going to be 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: on the White House card. That affected Jones. Jones comes 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: out and says, yes, I was. We were in negotiations 51 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: as recently as Friday's. Here's where I don't Here's where 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm lost. Okay. John Jones has had a lot of 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: interactions with the UFC, positive and negative, right, So why 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: would he be so hurt by if if if it's 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: if something he if something he knows isn't being given 56 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to the public. Why would he be so hurt by it? 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: When there have been many occasions where they've talked negative 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: about each other and not been able to come to 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: terms on other things. Sometimes on John's doing, sometimes on 60 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: the UFC's doing. They have not been able to come together. 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Why would he be so hurt now because it was 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: made to seem like he was never going to be 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: on the White House when in reality, from the very 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: beginning they said he would not be on the White House. 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: Then John said, I want to be on the White 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: House and when to come out of retirement. I want 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: to be on the White House. Why would it hurt 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: his feelings so bad? Now? 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a great question, and I have 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: he's seemed crushed. 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: He's laying in bed and he's seeing it crushed. 72 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, honestly, I have no 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: answer for you. And because to the point you're making, 74 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: his last fight was sixteen months ago, so it's not 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: like he's been an active fighter. And I did look 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: in the last decade. Let' see if you know this, 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: in the last decade, ten years ago from today, how 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: many times has John Jones fought? 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I would say he fought. I mean obviously say three 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty, because you told me that. 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: Well, I messed that one up. Also, though I was. 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Twenty, he did not fight for a really long time. 83 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: I think the first time he came back was cyril 84 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: Gon and then he fought Steepe. He's only fought five 85 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: times since twenty twenty. 86 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: It's eight times since a decade. Agoes eight times in 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: a decade since twenty sixteen. 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: Since twenty sixteen, he's fought eight times. That's that's not 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: very often. So one that sells he's making a boatload 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: of money right to not have to fight like that. 91 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: And two John, it really tells me that for as 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: much and for as good as John has been, he 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: really has missed a lot of his fighting years because 94 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: remember this when he fought uh when him and I 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: fought in January of twenty fifteen, and then he got 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: suspended when he got into that accident, I fought Rumble, 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: then I fought again in October. John and I weren't 98 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: scheduled to fight until the summer, but he fought in 99 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: April of that next year, so he missed fifteen months. 100 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Then when we when we rescheduled for the summer of 101 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: that year, John actually got that issue. He was gone 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: again all of sixteen from UFC two hundred all the 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: way to UFC two fourteen. So it's like he was 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: another year and something maybe a little longer before he 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: fought again. It's like so many, so many times, so 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: many times he's he hasn't fought. Yeah, and in so 107 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: many instances. I imagine the UFC one Ben since twenty fifteen, 108 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I fought eleven times and I've been hired for the 109 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: last six years. Almost seriously that's crazy. 110 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: No, that's so really and when you look at you, 111 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: you're nailing it because from he fought. That's why I 112 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: thought I was twenty. I thought it was twenty nineteen. 113 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: But he fought December twenty nine of twenty eighteen against Gustusen, 114 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: twice in twenty twenty and February twenty I'm sorry twice 115 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: in twenty teen February twenty twenty, so within a fourteen 116 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: month window. Right there, you have four of the eight 117 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: fights within a fourteen month window. So that means the 118 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: rest of the was that eight almost eight plus years, 119 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: he fought only four times, so it's not very well. 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: Your original point, though, why he's crushed, I didn't think that. 121 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: That's what I don't understand why he's so crushed. 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he thought this would be his going 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: out party. Maybe maybe that's what Maybe because he's got 124 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: to be done at some point. He's been kind of 125 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: playing around being done, but he came back and then 126 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: he's done again and they came back. 127 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: So I think like, I think like, but it seemed 128 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 1: like his feelings was hurt because like they were calling 129 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: him a liar. That's what I don't understand. One dude. 130 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know the truth because I'm not 131 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: John Ordana, but I can't imagine that's the first time 132 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: Dana had something, he said something that's not true about him. 133 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: But that's not the first time he said anything derogatory 134 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, it's hard to like, it's hard to 135 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: get that upset when someone's actually shown you that behavior before. 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: But right now it seems like it just really bothered 137 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: him that he was getting called. I've called him everything 138 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: he's been called nextive years, like seriously, and it's like, no, 139 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: it's like this thing bothered him. But I honestly think 140 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: maybe it was because the White House thing meant something 141 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: to him. Listen in the words, right, I came down 142 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: from my original number. I came I came down from 143 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: my original number. So he was trying to make this happen. 144 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: He came out of retirement to go on that fight card. 145 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: He had said publicly on many occasions he'd loved to 146 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: fight Alex there it didn't work. 147 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a questions? 148 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. 149 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: What's the percentage chance you give John at getting a 150 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: release from the UFC. 151 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: He's not getting released, So I don't think I think 152 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: it's zero percent he gets released. 153 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 154 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: I mean I kind of feel I kind of feel 155 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: similarly to you. 156 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: No chance he gets released. 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: I almost feel like, and Dana doesn't really do this, 158 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: but I feel like I was out of respect just 159 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: kind of let him go fight Frances and be done 160 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: with it. 161 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: But let me ask your question. But but but where 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: is he gonna fight Francis? Just the PFL. Francis just 163 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: left the PFA. 164 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: You didn't see what happened today? 165 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: No, what Francis got announced on the MVP Gina Carona 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: around a Rousey card against Felipe Lynz. 167 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: I think is his name? 168 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Just fought him, didn't he? 169 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: No, they haven't fought. 170 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't. 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: I mean Frances doesn't fought in MMA fighting long. 172 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: Time fighting MMA. Okay, yeah maybe, but yeah, so ay 173 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: with that, though, there's no way you can release Jones 174 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: because then if Jones and Francis can be made outside 175 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: of the UFC, that's you giving someone pollower. You can't 176 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: let him go. There's no way that he could actually 177 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: fight anywhere else. Are be released. No, I don't think 178 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: he's getting released here. 179 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: It would help him in the class action. 180 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: What was the number? What was the number you think 181 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: John was asking for, because I saw Ariel Hawane talking 182 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: about this today. He was talking about thirty million. He 183 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: said thirty million or something, and he said John came 184 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: down and he was saying John is worth thirty million 185 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: and Connor's worth seventy five million because they paid that kid. 186 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Connor been fifteen million allegedly. Right. 187 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: I like it, but I think he's off on these ones. 188 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: I think he's off because I think I think we 189 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: did talk about this is that UFC doesn't have to 190 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: renegotiate this deal for six years. John's not gonna be 191 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: around in six years and Cronnor's not gonna be around 192 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: six years. So if you're gonna get big money to anybody, 193 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be someone who's like twenty two or twenty 194 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: yes something, who's someone who's young, who you're like, Okay, 195 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: this guy is gonna be the big star when I'm 196 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: renegotiating this contract. 197 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: In six years. 198 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: These group of people are gonna be the big stars. 199 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take really, really good care of them 200 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: and make sure that they're still there because John and 201 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: Connor are gonna have nothing to do with renegotiation, and 202 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: that unfortunately, for them. 203 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: That's a fact. 204 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Do you remember that time that they when they signed 205 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: that deal with I don't know if it was an 206 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: ESPN or huh uh two seventeen or I think he's 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: right around UFC, right around UFC two hundred. 208 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: So that was, you know what that was? That was 209 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: Henry was the debut on ESPN. 210 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: He was the debut. 211 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: It was when the UFC sold the to uh the 212 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: company that owns it now Endeavor, when they sold a 213 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: sixteen W BRO. Everybody was active. Jones was active, Connor 214 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: Ronda like it was the most valuable thing out there 215 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: because everybody was so active. Everybody was fighting so much. 216 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: It's like they need to build that next group of 217 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: people so that the next time it comes up. Yes, 218 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: I get it, but I don't. I don't know why that. 219 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: That probably was my biggest takeaway was why is John 220 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: so upset? Like you don't that That's the only thing 221 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: that I thought, Hey, let me tell you something. I 222 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: gotta say this bro. I kind of felt bad for 223 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: him because. 224 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: That's why let's go. 225 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: No. I felt bad for John because it just seemed 226 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: like he wanted to fight on that card bad, Like, 227 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: think about this bro and I've said this time and 228 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: time again. I think John got the fight Stepe because 229 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: he goes, give me this legacy one and I'll give 230 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: you the Aspenall fight, and then he renigged. 231 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: Right, I wouldn't make shocked on that I'm retired. 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: It's like I'm retired and he goes, but I kind 233 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: of want to fight at the White House. I think 234 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: this is kind of like, ah, I think this is 235 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: kind of like a almost like come to Jesus moment, Ben, 236 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: where you're like, yes, at twenty eight twenty nine, no 237 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: matter what you did, you you got. When he got 238 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: that event canceled with Chaale, they said he'll never headline again, 239 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: but he was selling pay per views, so you had 240 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: to go back to him. But now at thirty eight 241 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: thirty nine, he's got like bad hyps and injuries and 242 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: looks like he's on his way out. They're kind of like, 243 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: like you said, you're not going to prove value to 244 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: me in the long term, so I don't think we 245 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: need to bend over for you anymore. 246 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: Yes, it's yeah crazy, I mean I think that's the 247 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: most sensible thing. Hey, what I didn't get your opinion. Uh, 248 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: And this is gonna. 249 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: Be wild coming from me, real wild good. 250 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: What if they did a three takedown maximum being f 251 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: title fights because okay, yeah. 252 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: Three takedown maximum or you only get him in on 253 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: the top. So fact, did you not like that? No? 254 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: It was bored, terribly boring. 255 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Ben, you're a grappler. 256 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: I don't well listen even if I was a grappler, 257 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: and it felt weird to the BEM fight. But number 258 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: two is okay. Charles did not. It was kind of 259 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: like the Chamaia fight where Charles didn't take chances on top. 260 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: He wasn't really really aggressive with it. 261 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though. I asked the question 262 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: to Joe and John and they kind of shut me 263 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: down right away. It's a fight. It's just another fight. 264 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: But yet maybe Ben, maybe that's the idea, like you 265 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's almost like that video game 266 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: where it's standing bay, yeah, or you get a couple 267 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: of takedowns to you. The thing is, Charles didn't really 268 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: need to take him down. He was winning the striking. 269 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: He was winning the strike. 270 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: But was it but this one where this is why 271 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: I did okay in striking at May was he winning 272 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: a striking because the other guy was scared of the takedown, like, 273 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: that's definitely a possibility because Max Holloway had zero ability 274 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: to get up. I mean I never got taken down 275 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: like that twenty minutes on bottom or something like that. 276 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: It was it was crazy, how but Charles is just 277 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: this amazing grappler, just controlled him with the grappling. That 278 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: shit was crazy. 279 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: So I actually thought Dana was gonna say, you're not 280 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: getting this belt. That's not how we do this up 281 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: in here, and he's gonna read I'm taking the title back. 282 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this though, when it just 283 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: was like, Charles is such an exciting guy, right, but 284 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: then after what Iliot did to whim, I mean, do 285 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: you really do you really blame him for like that fight, 286 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: because Bro, once he took him down the first time, 287 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: he probably was like, oh my god. 288 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was easy. 289 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: You and I both know Ben that when you get 290 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: a takedown on somebody early and they don't get up, 291 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: you going back to the takedown, Ben, Yeah, and that's 292 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: something over here, like you would have been striking. 293 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: I said, even coming from me, this should sound crazy. 294 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: But Chamaiah of CHAMAIAV and his title fight took little 295 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: risk on top, like he wasn't really threatening aggressively. 296 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: I felt the same way about Charles, and yes. 297 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: If we're gonna have a belt, was it it was 298 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: my fault the BMF bel got started or maybe yeah, yeah, 299 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: maybe Jorges something like that. But I thought it was 300 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: silly in the first. But if we're gonna do it, 301 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: we gotta do it right. We can't do it halfway. 302 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: You can't pin someone down and get the BMF belt, 303 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: like you got to earn it the right way. Or 304 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: maybe you should have to get a knockout to get 305 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: like this is up for grabs, but if you don't 306 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: knock that guy out, it's vacant again or something. 307 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask a question. The BMF in the 308 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: beginning was a prop. It was laughable. Bro. Last weekend 309 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: it felt like everybody's like, I'm all in on the 310 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: BMF time. Yeah, but that was because the way that 311 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: fight went with between Joe and Nate, the way that 312 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: Dustin Justin went justin, Max went Dustin versus Max went. 313 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, yo, I'm all in on this thing, and 314 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: it feels like a world championship and it feels like 315 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: if you're holding it, it brings you closer to the 316 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: actual championship in the world. But after last weekend, was 317 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: that the last we'll ever see here. That's the danger, right, 318 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: that's the danger in putting world class fighters who are 319 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: still relevant to the title picture in that fight, because 320 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: to them, it is a means to an end. It's 321 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily the end all be all is to become 322 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: the BMF champion. The end all be off to say 323 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: I got a belt. Now I can sit across from 324 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: illiot to poor you with a belt in front of 325 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: me too, and it looks like a champion versus champion. 326 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: So that's why we need to make some rules. We 327 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: need to make some rules. We just do this right 328 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: now and make rules. 329 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, before you go. We're 330 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna make is the BMF title done? After last weekend? 331 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: People, people it lost it, lost a lot of lost 332 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: her because you know, like I said, I was not 333 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: in favor of it in the beginning. 334 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: But if if we're gonna do it, you might as 335 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: well do it right. And so there has to be 336 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: some stipulation or agreement. And you know, like. 337 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: Honestly, before he started talking about his family and everything, 338 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: that crowd is gonna boo the crap out of him. 339 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: But they started telling his family and like, we can't 340 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: boo his childer and that's just real. 341 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: I thought he fought a beautiful fight. 342 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: No man, Well listen, I'm saying MS Okay, Yes, if 343 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: you're trying to win, win about it was a good one. 344 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: But if we're fighting for a BMF title, there should 345 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: be now, litten, if you took him down and punched 346 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: him in the face a whole much times and then 347 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: fight ended, that is a BMF. If you take him 348 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: down and cuddle him not so much. 349 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: And we're talking about I mean, I. 350 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: Think Charles says, I should check this out. But probably 351 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: one of the highest finished ring rates. 352 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 353 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: So he's got twenty one finishes in the UFC, which is. 354 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is something ridiculous. 355 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: But like I said, he took little to no risk 356 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: once he got on top against Max Hallway. 357 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: And he was and he was winning the striking. Okay, 358 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: BMF rules, let's go. Rule number one, Rule number one, 359 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: three takedowns. 360 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: Max, three takedowns, Max, I love it. 361 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: Rule number two. 362 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: One minute on top. 363 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: That's all you get, one minute control time and then 364 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: they restart you. 365 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: Uh maybe unless you're in an active submission or something. 366 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think something to that effect. 367 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: You're so okay, two minutes, you can have two minutes, Daniel. 368 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Two minutes. Yeah, come on, dude, listen. 369 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: I love fighting, and I told you in my early days, 370 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: I was guilty because I didn't know how to fight. 371 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: I just knew how to wrestle. 372 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I'm talking. I started in two thousand 373 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: and nine. I'm having title fights in twenty ten and eleven. Yeah, 374 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: I didn't know how to fight, so yeah, I held 375 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: their ass down. But by the time I got to 376 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: say two thousand, was it twelve or thirteen, I started 377 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: finishing almost all my fights. 378 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: I learned how to do damage on top. In order 379 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: to damage, you gotta take risk. 380 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: And you gotta take you gotta give space, you got 381 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to you gotta give space. 382 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: You know what. 383 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: I'll give you a comment. You were great at that 384 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: because you know what you do. Uh, And this isis 385 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: could be most of the best top people do this. 386 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: They give space, they lad some punches, they get they 387 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: gotta turnover, and then they get their wrists and then 388 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: they punch them some more and then you know, then 389 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: it'd be crazy and then they roll back and they 390 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: punched this more and then they turn back over and 391 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: at some point and. 392 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Let them get up. You let them get up. Do 393 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: you throw them back down? 394 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: Yep? Or they give up their neck or yeah, all of. 395 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: Those get up and then you take their leg and 396 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: just kind of dump them back to the mat. They 397 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: get so frustrated and discouraged. It's crazy. You know what 398 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: was the best when you're on top of somebody like 399 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: that beat them in they go, oh, I mean it's over. 400 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Isn't that the best? 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Did he 448 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: go to your house? 449 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: He came to my house, he hung out a little bit. 450 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: How did this happen? 451 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: Uh? 452 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: He started saying that, you know, he wanted to meet 453 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: me and have dinner with me and pray with me 454 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. 455 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: And I said, hey man, I'm open to it, of course. 456 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: And so we had a bunch of things going on 457 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: this weekend, and so I said, hey, man, you know, 458 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: if you're really serious, i'd love to have you up here. 459 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: I don't think it's healthy to hold grudges. 460 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: The Master question, but the Magic question. Yeah, the magic 461 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what if he was like sick or 462 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: something and he went up and is the ultimate get back? 463 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: Think about it, getting cough in my face one time 464 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: that you're evil. 465 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: You're evil? Oh my gosh, you're evil. No, it was good, 466 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: you know what I admitted to him. Oh my gosh, 467 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: that was evil. I thought about one time. 468 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: Just you thought about it, you're like one of those guys. 469 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah? Oh he was great. 470 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: But you know, uh, I told him straight up. I said, listen, 471 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: I actually thought I enjoyed watching you fight. I had 472 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: nothing against you, but I was going to get left 473 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: without a dance partner in the UFC, and that's the 474 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: worst place you want to be. Marty and Colby were 475 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: going to fight. I wasn't going to fight Tyrant because 476 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: he's a really close friend. Wonder Boy got knocked out 477 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: by Anthony. I just thought Robbie, I kind of went 478 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: was like, hey, I had no one, so I just 479 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: keep picking on you. Until you got so mad you 480 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: said yes, otherwise I was going to sit on the 481 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: bench for six to nine months. 482 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: You know, like, uh, I. 483 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: Actually thought he was funny and I kind of liked him, 484 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: and you know, so we got we got along and 485 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: we actually had a lot in common, kind of you know, 486 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: we're both fighters and there's kind of a lot of things. 487 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: And he's got three kids. We talked about kids. He's nice, 488 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: he was really that, he was super nice. He was awesome. 489 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: That's great. 490 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: I mean we've also. 491 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: Had mutual friends like Tyrons are a good mutual friend, 492 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: Anthony Petties, and you know, they always really have liked him. 493 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: Also, uh, Dean Thomas, et cetera. So they always said 494 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: he's a really good guy. 495 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: And so yeah, and I said, hey, if he ever 496 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: wants to come up and train or has a comeback 497 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 2: fight or something. Again, Uh, from what he said, I 498 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: would guess the answers yes, But. 499 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't look like it sounds like, yeah, he kind 500 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: of want to. 501 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: He got screwed so bad by uh the people that 502 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: didn't give him his money when. 503 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: He Oh yeah, we did not. We did not discuss that, 504 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: but have heard that. 505 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: It's been the other day We're on on CBS, which 506 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: was crazy, right, like, we're on CBS, yeah, callon fights. 507 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: I said this whenever I was on air. I said, 508 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: when I was growing up in Lafayette, like we didn't 509 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: have cable, so CBS was one of the free ones, right, 510 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: like it was the ABC. CBS and like Fox were 511 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: free channels in Lafayette. Yes, I'm on CBS. Dana White 512 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: comes on and announces the White House Card? Right, yeah? 513 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: What did you think initially of the White House Card? 514 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: So it's so funny. Michael Chandler was visiting me this 515 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: weekend also, and I asked him that morning. I said, hey, man, 516 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: are you slow playing us? Are you gonna be are 517 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: you gonna be announced that? Or what's the deal here? 518 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: He would tell us that son of a gun? So 519 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: I actually I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest. Here with Danielle, 520 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: we were watching some wrestling. I went back to take 521 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: a ship and I started scrolling on my Twitter. I said, oh, 522 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: that's some of if it's Michael's he's on the White 523 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: House Card. 524 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: Uh, And then I came back out and I confronted 525 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 3: him on it. 526 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me think I like trpoa Verse Gaechee. 527 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: I liked that is getting situated. I like prayervers Gohn obviously, 528 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: I think you know, John Jones probably would have been 529 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: a bigger name and a bigger draw. There, will be 530 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: honest with you, I didn't really know what I'm on 531 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: the hobby. 532 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: I know Kyle Dawcaskyle. 533 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: So let me run the seat real quick. Yes, Kyle 534 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: Dawkas is a kid that got cut from the UFC 535 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: a little bit ago. He came back and he's been 536 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: on an absolute tear since. Amon's a hobby, has won 537 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: a boatload of fights and ron He's worked himself into 538 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: the top like five or six in the world. He's 539 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: getting SEANL. Mackley many thoughts Joan Mallley would fight Corey 540 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: Sanhagen because didn't happen. I don't know. I really don't know. 541 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: But let me run you some odds real quick. 542 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: You tell me what what what is? Darcas is a strikers. 543 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: He's a little bit of a striker. He's big, tall guy. 544 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: His brother used to fight the UFC two they were 545 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: two brothers. He's good, Yeah, you know, but Bo Nichols 546 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: gonna be on the card. He's like an American guy 547 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: that you know we all Wrestling and All American National Champion. 548 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: He's the all American guy on the card. Justin Gaechee 549 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: is the American guy on the card. Patty Pimlin situation 550 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: worked out because either you're gonna have Patty Pimlin as 551 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: a champ or you got an American champion. Yeah, with 552 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: a fight that's going on at the White House. But 553 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: let me run you some numbers. The Pouria is minus 554 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: four fifty five to Justin's plus three fifty. 555 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 556 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: Pereira is minus one thirty five to Gons plus one fourteen. 557 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting. 558 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: O'Malley is minus three forty five to the Hobbies two 559 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: seventy five plus Maurice the Ohufi is minus three eighty 560 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: versus Chandler's plus three hundred. Bo Nichols minus one ninety eight. 561 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Dawkins has won sixty four. Diego Lopez is minus 562 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: two o five. Steve Garcia is plus one seventy. Those 563 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: are some big odds. It sounds like if you look 564 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: at the odds, a whole bunch of mismatches on the 565 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: White House card. 566 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: Ben uh Well, Honestly, sometimes mismatches turned into the best 567 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: fights potentially. 568 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: I like the fight card. 569 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: What's up? 570 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: I like the fight card. I saw a lot of 571 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: people going to be this. He said it wasna be 572 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: the greatest fight card of all time. I think you 573 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: got like the champion in Ilia versus Justin. Yeah, tremendous fight. 574 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: I'm going with that. 575 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Don versus Pereira fight is one like, Wow, Perera's fighting 576 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: for his third title? How could you wait? 577 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: How's that a title? Brough? 578 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: It's an interim title fight. Tom knows hurt. 579 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: He hate that hurt. 580 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Yes, Ben, he had two surgeries on his eyes. 581 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: Did he just say he's coming back? 582 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: He said he wants to fight the winner of this fight. Luis, 583 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: give me what Tom said today? 584 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: On I thought he said he was gonna come back. 585 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: He said he wants to fight the winner of the 586 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: fight against these two. But he had two surgeries, uh, 587 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: two surgeries on his eyes. 588 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: October twenty five. His last fight was only October twenty five? 589 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: Was that five months ago? 590 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: Have months? He barely he barely has a fault. But no, 591 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: because they just anticipate he's gonna be going for a while. 592 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: That's why. 593 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't love it. But okay, I'll go with it. 594 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: So he said, I want to fight the winner of that. 595 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting now to get the green light. They 596 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: all clear from the doctor. They don't get to train 597 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: properly again. 598 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I guess I don't know. I feel like 599 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: I read something that I thought. Maybe I don't hate 600 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: that one Gone versus Parra. It's fun, it's a good standard fight. 601 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: I do think Prayer will maybe struggle with the size. 602 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: But Pereira is the favorite, man, I know you agree that, uh? 603 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: I mean that the odds are close, right, so it's 604 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: only a slight favorite. I don't know if I would 605 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: agree with that. 606 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: What about Illiot's the poor you being such a big 607 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: favorite over Justin Gate? 608 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I for sure see why that's the case that. 609 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: I mean, that's almost one that would be willing to 610 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: throw a few bucks on beacause you get such good 611 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: odds on Justin. 612 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: Can Justin beat him? 613 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 3: In your opinion, I mean, maybe can't beat him. He 614 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: could knock him out? 615 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, is good, It is very good. 616 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: Is good. And but Justin hits hard, and he's very. 617 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: Justin hits hard and he loves to fight. Do you 618 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: think that Ilia hasn't fought for a while now since 619 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: he beat Charles OLVERA it will be almost a year 620 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: or maybe it will be a year since he fought last. 621 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: You think that's gonna hurt him in this fight. 622 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: Uh, I don't think it'll be too bad. I mean 623 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: it's it's probably not gonna help him, but I don't 624 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: think it's too bad. 625 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, when we talk about the fight card, everybody 626 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: was like up in arms a little bit, right, Like 627 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: everybody's like up in arms, like, oh my god, you 628 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: said it's gonna be the greatest fight card of all time. 629 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a great fight card, And honestly, I 630 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a sprint of a fight card. 631 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: It's like six fights and that's it. But I mean 632 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: that's like the whole card. I don't even think that 633 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: there are no pre limbs. 634 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. It'll honestly be interesting. See how that does. 635 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: Because man, I am becoming less and less of a 636 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: fan because like it's undercard. To watch the whole fight, 637 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: it's like five hours or maybe more. You gotta you 638 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: gotta work, So don't listen to me complaint because you're 639 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: working it. 640 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: You're working with. 641 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: Harder than I am, but I just feel like it's 642 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: just too much time to sit down and watch munch 643 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: of fights. So then I don't watch the guys an undercard, 644 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: and then so like an amons a hobby, he gets 645 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: on the main card. 646 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, who's this guy? I don't know who this 647 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: guy is? But for real, so. 648 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: I was seven in a row and I don't know 649 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: who he is. Damn it, I'm gonna look him up 650 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: right now. He's ranked six. 651 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: His brother is a hobby Jeorsey. 652 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I know for us, See, I know for us, 653 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: that's got the name recognition right there. 654 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: I like for us he's he's a really good coach. 655 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: Uh so. 656 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: But to your point, the greatest card of all time. 657 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: Maybe that's why people are disappointed, because you have, say, 658 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: like a UFC two hundred or something like that, the best. 659 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: If you're holding against that standard, like if you're holding 660 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: its the best ever and you're thinking, U see two hundred, 661 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, it's a little bit of a let 662 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: down a UFC two hundred. 663 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: And and yeah he ben last thing before I let 664 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: you go, bro, what was going on with RAF and 665 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: armand fighting? What happened? 666 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: I called that? PS? 667 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: What do you mean you called it so I I 668 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: was on the broadcast. I would go I go on 669 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: sometimes during the rounds, they sent the TV crew to 670 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: my house. You know, Oh my gosh, this UFC. I 671 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: looked at this UFC. 672 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: Hud you were supposed to be on a Sadly enough, 673 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: it was such a good card. Oh my god, you 674 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: were on it. 675 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: I was on UFC two hundred. 676 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: I guess Anderson, I remember that. 677 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what a crazy card. 678 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: That was a bully move by you, bro. What well, 679 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: you're like way bigger than he is. 680 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: So manj De Shaw, Kevin Gaslam, Johnny Henders, Julianna Paane, 681 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: your kads In Ghano, Daniel Cormier, Anderson Still, Frankieg, Jose Aldo. 682 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: Blaska, Rock Glasser. Oh my god, this card is so good. 683 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: That's what working bearing it too. And they sold it, 684 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: hey that they sold the UFC sold the endeavor like 685 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: right at that time. 686 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that was such a great card. So 687 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: arif I call it the first round. After the first 688 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: round period was over, they went to me and I said, hey, ma'am, 689 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: to me, it looks like Giorgio is trying to not 690 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: engage past Jeremany was doing kind of you know, the 691 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: face pokes, which you know, you're a freestyle wrestler, you know, 692 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: you know you're not allowed to do that, right, that's 693 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: one every time that's against the rules. And so I said, 694 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: it appears to me that he's trying to piss Arman 695 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: off because the easiest way for him to win this 696 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: match is to get Arma to disqualify himself by punching him. 697 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: And then arm On ariel And he said, he said, 698 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: I didn't want to get disqualified, so I waited right 699 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: till the buzzer was over to punch him. And I 700 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: thought that was the funniest thing ever because it was 701 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: like clear to me that one person wanted to punch 702 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: another person. 703 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: That kid was mad at you too. Did you see 704 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: that he got? 705 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: He got pretty mad. 706 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Why. 707 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't overly nice. 708 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: I mean I think I maybe said things that were 709 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: uh correct, But yeah, no, they're they're redoing it again. 710 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna let those guys wrestle again. I yeah, that man, 711 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: why is that Bad's gonna hit him again? 712 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: So I supposedly there's gonna be something where Armand is 713 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: not allowed to hit him, you know, there's a thing 714 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 2: arman just be flying around a private jets and guy 715 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: and do what he wants. So I'm like, hey, that 716 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 2: that kind of makes me a little bit nervous. I 717 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: think we're gonna be able to keep that matter under control. 718 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people want to see it. 719 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: But to your point, I feel like it's gonna play 720 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: out pretty similarly to the last one because we're talking, 721 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: we're talking about one month break, so it's like, how 722 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: much different a wrestler can you can you become in 723 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: a month? And I think the answer is not all 724 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: that much. So I think we're gonna see a lot 725 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: of what we were seeing. But man, people are fascinating. 726 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: There's something a fight that wasn't supposed to happen that 727 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: a people fascinated by. You watch international wrestling like I do, 728 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: and you know in Russia, Yeah, you remember that one 729 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: where the one had a gun. 730 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he pulled a gun out of like, ah, that happens, and. 731 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: Then I going down a rabbit hole trying to find 732 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: out more about who's the guy with the gun? Is 733 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: ari everything you hoped it would, because it is wild, 734 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: it is. 735 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: It is taking off significantly fashion. I thought it is 736 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: getting crazy popularity. We sold out to Phoenix show. I 737 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: think we're gonna sell out to the Tampa show. The 738 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: numbers of the line have been amazing, so yeah, you know, 739 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: I think one of the things people are there's frustrations 740 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: with certain people and sorry the fans, with certain. 741 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 3: Aspects of what we're doing. It's like, dude, we're on 742 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: show six. 743 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah we're still learning. 744 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: Show like we're practicing. What about still learning? Yeah, we're 745 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: still learning. So we're gonna get much much better. I know, 746 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: I already know. We have some improves coming to the 747 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: next show. We have a lot of exciting things going on. 748 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, and we are getting more and more and 749 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: more of the most elite wrestling talent all over the world. 750 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: So it's all fun. You still got to come to 751 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: a show. 752 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: So we got to see Tampa. We got I can't 753 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: say that the one we were gonna go to which 754 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: might get moved. We Philadelphia April eighteen, and then we 755 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: got some more. So I'm gonna get you to come 756 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: to a show and have some fun with us. 757 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: Brother man, you're the man. Hey, guys, for ben asking, 758 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Cormido. Is another episode of Punky in the 759 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: champ like subscribe and tell you friends tell their friends 760 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: that he's got a YouTube channel. 761 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: And I'm Daniel, you didn't even brag about your Oak 762 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 3: Home Stake Cowboys. They did pretty good, brodere really good. 763 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: We won the Big Twelve. We beat the ship out 764 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: of Missouri. April stop. Life is back normal, like that 765 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: year that y'all won the Big twelve. I was like, 766 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: what is happening? 767 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: We won the Big twelve a bunch of times, Daniel. 768 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: We've been beating these ship out of you. 769 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 3: Are you going to cheer your team on the nationals 770 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: or no? 771 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: I can't. I got it. My son has a state 772 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: wrestling tournament. 773 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: Gotta tell your son Steven olkohin state Cowboys and more 774 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: and then take him with you. 775 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he wants to go bad, he asked 776 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: me today. 777 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell you Mitchell Messering skipped his eighth grade state 778 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: tournament to go watch and. 779 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Look at him now, did okay? I like going? He 780 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: walked past me me. 781 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: Joe, you said that. 782 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: Thistjo all right, I'm sorry I ruined your ending. 783 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: I just said I didn't bring up your ome Sake cowboy. 784 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: Till next time, guys. Peace. 785 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: M