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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. It is a busy,

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Speaker 1: busy week at the Underarmed Performance Center Mandatory mini campus.

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Speaker 1: Underway Media Day was on Monday, and the Ravens at

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Speaker 1: the practice field on Tuesday, and basically all eyes on

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Speaker 1: the practice field on Tuesday went to number three Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham Junior, who practiced for the first time as a Raven.

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Speaker 1: It was his first time on the practice field since

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Speaker 1: suffering a knee injury last year. Well actually back in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty yeah, twenty twenty two, and so it's

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Speaker 1: been a long recovery for him and certainly exciting to

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Speaker 1: have him back on the field. So Clifton Brown and

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Speaker 1: I are here to break it all down. We also,

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Speaker 1: before practice had a chance to hear from Odell, So

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Speaker 1: clearly OBJ was the biggest note coming out of practice

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. So let's start there. What stood out to

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Speaker 1: you in terms of what you heard from Odell and

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Speaker 1: then also what you saw from him on the practice field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually will I guess start with what I felt.

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Speaker 2: I feel nothing but positive vibes from Odell. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know him at all, but he just gives

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Speaker 2: his persona right now where he is that he seems

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Speaker 2: to be in a very good place.

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Speaker 3: He's smiling a lot. When he was talking to the media.

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Speaker 2: It was clear that he feels physically very good. He said,

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Speaker 2: so that you know, getting up, waging out of bed

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Speaker 2: and no pain. He's been working out for months. The

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Speaker 2: fact that he's here obviously now gives him a chance

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Speaker 2: to mess with his new teammates. He's really excited to

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Speaker 2: me to be a Baltimore Raven, and of course to

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Speaker 2: be playing with Lamar Jackson. You know, he signed before

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Speaker 2: Lamar's contract is sensed, and you know clearly he's thrilled.

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Speaker 2: And now that has been worked out, has said that

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Speaker 2: this is Lamar is one of the reasons he signed here.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, so what he said was all positive.

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Speaker 2: And then what I saw on the field, I mean him,

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Speaker 2: you know, doing drills at full speed, running some rounds.

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Speaker 2: Didn't get a ton of work during practice, but just

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Speaker 2: to see the way he's moving, I mean, he looks

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Speaker 2: great to me, like he's ready to go, not favoring anything,

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Speaker 2: no hesitation. So it's all thumbs up from what I

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Speaker 2: saw today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what stood out to me in terms of what

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Speaker 1: I saw like oftentimes it's been like a year and

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Speaker 1: a half since he's been on the practice field. Now

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Speaker 1: he's done workouts, and we've seen the videos that he's posted,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like he hasn't been running or anything

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Speaker 1: like that that's been going on. But it is different

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Speaker 1: when you put on a helmet and you're playing against

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Speaker 1: opposition on a practice field. Even though this is an

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Speaker 1: OTA practice, there's no contact or not pads, like this

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Speaker 1: is not a game, but like this is a step

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Speaker 1: up in terms of going against compared to a workout

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Speaker 1: again against nobody. Okay, so this is a step up.

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Speaker 1: And so a lot of times when a guy's coming

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Speaker 1: back from an injury and they have their first practice,

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Speaker 1: here's where the practices. They jog out onto the field,

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Speaker 1: they get it. You know, everyone gives them claps it up,

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Speaker 1: round of applause, they give their high fives, they go

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Speaker 1: through the stretching portion of practice, they catch a few

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Speaker 1: balls on air, and then they head on in and

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Speaker 1: that's it. And for obvious reason, there's like this process

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Speaker 1: of ramping up. What I was kind of struck by

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Speaker 1: is that Odell did eleven on eleven work, not a ton,

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Speaker 1: which even if he wasn't coming back from an injury,

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Speaker 1: you don't put your top receiver like a veteran player

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Speaker 1: through a ton of work. And at eleven on eleven

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Speaker 1: drills in a mini camp in his first mini camp practice,

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Speaker 1: but like he did some and so when I saw him,

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Speaker 1: like he did the individual stuff, and then I was thinking, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's probably it for him. That's you know, good to

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Speaker 1: get out here, round of applause, great to put on

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Speaker 1: the uniform. And then when I saw him step out

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Speaker 1: there for eleven on eleven, I was like, WHOA, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, and I agree with you, Like he looks

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Speaker 1: like he's moving well, doesn't seem to be hesitant at all,

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Speaker 1: which I think a lot of times is like the

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Speaker 1: mental piece of the game. And he talked about that

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, I thought like, look, he

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Speaker 1: didn't make any tremendous plays. I think he had one

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Speaker 1: for about I don't know, eight yards, nothing special, but

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Speaker 1: just getting out there on the field and doing that

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned even though he didn't do anything spectacular,

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Speaker 2: there's been so much focus on his knee that you

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Speaker 2: know when he made some catches like just in the

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Speaker 2: drills and nothings, but that I just made Rond me Well,

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Speaker 2: you know his hands. This guy's hands are incredible. And

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Speaker 2: that's the type of player that the Ravens are getting.

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Speaker 2: He's he's a special type player. He came into the

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Speaker 2: league and did some incredible things right away with the Giants.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he has pushed himself. That's the level that

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Speaker 2: he expects to play. And the last time we saw

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Speaker 2: him play, he was probably on his way to winning

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Speaker 2: the MVP of the Super Bowl. And so that's what

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Speaker 2: he expects from himself. And to your point about him

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Speaker 2: not kind of easing his way in the way he expected,

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Speaker 2: I think he's that type of competitor. He's always pushing

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Speaker 2: himself when he stepped on the field. He expects to

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Speaker 2: be the best guy out there.

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Speaker 1: Well, like he's such a star and like you see

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Speaker 1: him pop up like at the NBA Finals sitting court side.

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Speaker 1: You see him pop up in Monaco at like the

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Speaker 1: Grand Prix or a fashion week or whatever, and so

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Speaker 1: he's like such as megastar and like he runs in

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, and so like that is certainly part

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Speaker 1: also like the thing that that does stand out is

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Speaker 1: he does talk about this and John Harbaal talked about

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Speaker 1: it like he loves football, he loves to play football,

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Speaker 1: you see all the other stuff and like even just

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Speaker 1: like when he walks out, it's just like everybody wanted

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Speaker 1: media wanted to see him in action, fans who were

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Speaker 1: here wanted to see him in action. We did have

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Speaker 1: some fans here who are season ticket holders. I think

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Speaker 1: other players look at him and they're like, that's Odell,

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Speaker 1: that's Odell Beckham Junior. Like I want to see what

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Speaker 1: he can do. I want to see how he looks.

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Speaker 1: Like it's pretty cool to step on the field with him,

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Speaker 1: and like he's one of the most famous players in

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Speaker 1: wherever he goes on or off the field, the spotlight

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Speaker 1: I do think that there's an element of like when

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Speaker 1: You know, you at a certain point, you start to

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Speaker 1: like there's an element where he probably just feels at

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Speaker 1: in hearing from him today, like it was it was

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Speaker 1: big for him to play, for him to practice again,

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Speaker 1: he said, Like I asked him about that. I was like,

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Speaker 1: put on the uniform again? And he said, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: basically like I've tried to downplay it, make a big

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 2: It does, and that work ethic he has is part

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Speaker 2: of what has made him so good. I thought John

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Speaker 2: Harbo's point was good about, you know, Terrell Owens being

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Speaker 2: a similar type megastar receiver who people get caught up

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Speaker 2: in the glamour, the headlines, whatever he's saying, and forget

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Speaker 2: that he's also a tremendously hard working player. He was,

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Speaker 2: and that's what helped get him to being at that

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Speaker 2: time the best rode receiver in football. Same with Odell.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even though he's blessed with tremendous talent, the

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Speaker 2: work ethic has separated him from other guys who have talent,

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Speaker 2: and so bringing that to the Ravens receiving group, I

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Speaker 2: think is gonna be great to rub off on everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Then they will follow him, not just because he's a

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Speaker 2: it's going to help rub off and it to help

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Speaker 2: make the younger receivers better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. He was also asked about chemistry, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that's the war that gets thrown around the time

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Speaker 1: of year, like are you building chemistry? And he's kind

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Speaker 1: of downplayed that a little bit, I would say, but

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Speaker 1: he did make this point, which I thought was noteworthy

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Speaker 1: that once they break from here, he's already got plans

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Speaker 1: to go down to Florida with Lamar and work. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when that's happening. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: down to Florida and work with Lamar in the time

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously that will accelerate the so called chemistry,

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Speaker 2: which is great. I think also it will strengthen their

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Speaker 2: bond you know, off the field, which is great. And

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Speaker 2: you know it's funny, you know, all that to me

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Speaker 2: is good. But great players, to me, it takes them

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Speaker 2: very little time to establish chemistry. That's yeah, that's one

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Speaker 2: of the parts of being great. You know, in all

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Speaker 2: sports you'll see, like, you know, great basketball player get traded.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's still so this was Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 2: Odell Beckham. Yeah, them having chemistry is something that I

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Speaker 2: haven't really been worried about, but I do feel that

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Speaker 2: those steps that they're taking is only going to accelerate

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of the other stuff you know that

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Speaker 1: I heard from him, I said this when he first

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Speaker 1: held his intro press conference and all that, and just

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Speaker 1: what he had to say in his press conference at

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Speaker 1: that time, like a word that stood out to me

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Speaker 1: was introspective, Like he just seems to be taking stock

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Speaker 1: of his career, where he's been, the highs, the lows,

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Speaker 1: the injuries, the great moments, and he's like pretty open

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Speaker 1: about talking about those things and also like trying to

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Speaker 1: learn from those experiences. Like he just seems super introspective,

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Speaker 1: more than you typically hear a player out a podium

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Speaker 1: session an hour before practice. Like you're not getting the

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Speaker 1: cliche answers really from him, No.

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Speaker 2: I think to his credit, I think he has given

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Speaker 2: a lot of thought to where he is at the moment.

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Speaker 2: He talked about having his feet on the ground right now.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing he's learned. This is what his fourth

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Speaker 2: different team is that, right which you know, for a

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Speaker 2: great player, that's a journey that a lot of great

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Speaker 2: players don't have to go through, switching teams that often,

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Speaker 2: going through the injuries he's had. Obviously the spotlight being

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Speaker 2: on him now, I think, yeah, at age thirty, with

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Speaker 2: the experiences he's had, the highs and the lows, has

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Speaker 2: made him a stronger person and one who, yeah, really

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Speaker 2: appreciates this chance to play. I mean, I think he

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Speaker 2: appreciates this year having the chance to after all, he's

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Speaker 2: been through, win and play. And he obviously talked too

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Speaker 1: So other notes from practice. Cliff is someone who stood

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Speaker 1: he's a big guy. So I like, like I like

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Speaker 1: that group.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think Tody Mogan does too, and then

436
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Speaker 2: but do you think.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be that? Like the question there is like

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Speaker 1: how much Greg Roman's offense you knew, like, Okay, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of three tight end looks like

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Speaker 1: tight end, tight end, tight end and Monkin's offense. Is

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Speaker 1: it gonna be that? I don't. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to figure out.

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Speaker 2: No, but he used tight ends really effectively in Georgia, yep.

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Speaker 2: And I just think he's kind of like, you know,

445
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Speaker 2: like most people are like, hey, if you stop this,

446
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to that. He just wants to

447
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Speaker 2: have the option where Okay, if you're shutting down, say

448
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Speaker 2: Mark anderw you're gonna double team Mark andrews Now, the

449
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Speaker 2: offense suffers. No, I can just go somewhere else. I

450
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Speaker 2: think with this group he'll have that ability if he

451
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Speaker 2: wants to play two tight ends together, if he wants

452
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Speaker 2: to use different packages, if there's injuries at wide receivers,

453
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Speaker 2: and order where defense is playing them is just screaming

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Speaker 2: throw the ball the tight ends.

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Speaker 3: They can do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so again, I just think it's a great

457
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Speaker 2: thing to be versatile. And we all know what a

458
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Speaker 2: great player Mark Andrews is, but he's also got two

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Speaker 2: guys behind him who look like, yeah, when you put

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Speaker 2: him out there, they can.

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Speaker 1: Make plays totally. Someone else who I thought kind of

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Speaker 1: caught my eye a few times during practice was Rocked

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Speaker 1: Your Scene. And just so listeners know, we confirmed the

464
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Speaker 1: correct pronunciation of his name. We've been saying rock your Sin, right,

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Speaker 1: but it is actually rock your Scene, So just to

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Speaker 1: just to clear that up. Okay, but it uh, I

467
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Speaker 1: don't know rock rock play. He's feisty out there. Like

468
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Speaker 1: in talking with him off the field, he's kind of

469
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Speaker 1: quiet and reserved it seems, but he was feisty out there.

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Speaker 1: Him and Aghilar were going at it a little bit

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Speaker 1: in you know, competitive spirit, which I loved, and I

472
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Speaker 1: just I liked the energy that he was bringing to

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Speaker 1: the field. Yeah. I think that he's he's could be

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Speaker 1: a really good signing for this team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's his rep that he's a feisty guy, tough. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, he he obviously could be the starter opposite

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Speaker 2: Marlon Umphrey.

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Speaker 1: I think I think he's gonna be the starter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if he is, that's a big role because

481
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Speaker 2: he's going to be tested because everyone knows what a

482
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Speaker 2: great player. Marlon Mfrey is and you know we've seen

483
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Speaker 2: Marlon hump for Marcus Peters back there the last few years,

484
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Speaker 2: side by side. It's like, Okay, I don't wanna throw

485
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Speaker 2: at Marlin. Marcus Peters is a guy with his track

486
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Speaker 2: record for Pigs quarterbacks. Weren't like I'm just gonna throw

487
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Speaker 2: that throw that way all day, but rock, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna see action if he's in that role. And he

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Speaker 2: looks clearly like he's ready for the challenge. Yeah, I

490
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Speaker 2: mean to come to a new team. He doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like he's tentative about that at all. This isn't his

492
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Speaker 2: first rodeo. He's been with different teams. Maybe that helps

493
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Speaker 2: in this situation that hey, okay, I've done this before.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna come in here and show them what I've gotten. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so far, you like what you see?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would be surprised at this point

497
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Speaker 1: if he's not the starter opposite of Marlo Humphrey, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, and you look at that group

499
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Speaker 1: and like the two sophomore players, Jalen armor Davis and

500
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Speaker 1: Pepe Williams have been dealing with injuries. Jalen he practiced

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Speaker 1: today in a limited capacity. Pepe did not, and John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh did say, you know, it sounds like that could

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Speaker 1: be somewhat lengthy. You know that it's going to linger

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Speaker 1: until training camp. He said that. Pepe says he's going

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Speaker 1: to be good to go at training camp, but we'll

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Speaker 1: see so that, you know, then that's been already going

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Speaker 1: on for a few weeks. So he's on the shelf

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Speaker 1: right now. And Jalen Armor Davis has been on and off,

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Speaker 1: and so I just don't I think it's gonna be right.

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Speaker 1: And they signed rock They signed Rocket Scene to be

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Speaker 1: a starting cornerback or at least to give them a

512
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Speaker 1: very good option there. So I think he's he's going

513
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Speaker 1: to be a starter there, so you know, and then

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Speaker 1: the other thing I would say, too, and by no

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Speaker 1: means is this is this going to be figured out

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Speaker 1: at this point. But in terms of competitions, you know,

517
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Speaker 1: we got a chance to see the offensive line look

518
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Speaker 1: a little bit more complete right now with Ronnie Stanley back,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler back, Morgan Moses. So you have those guys.

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Speaker 1: The left guard competition I expect to be one that

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Speaker 1: extends training camp. You know, the rookie Sala got some

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Speaker 1: reps there and with the ones, and it was interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how he did. I mean, it's kind of tough,

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Speaker 1: honestly when you're watching practice to really zero in on

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Speaker 1: the left guard spot. But you know he's going to

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Speaker 1: be in the mix there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, my my guess. So my view of

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Speaker 3: that is that that left guard.

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Speaker 1: Spot is wide I think it's wide open.

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Speaker 3: It's wide open.

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Speaker 2: When we get the padded practice in training camp, they'll

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Speaker 2: be very important. Preseason games will be very important. Whatever

533
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Speaker 2: these guys put on tape, it's going to be very

534
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: important every day. But we've had, you know, training camp

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Speaker 2: battles before in the offensive line, and the Ravens really

536
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Speaker 2: have to me stuck to their val of the bed

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Speaker 2: the best man win. I mean, we've had situations where,

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Speaker 2: you know, we thought it was going to be an

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Speaker 2: older player and a younger player came in or vice versus.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that you're seeing you know, guys like

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Speaker 2: Salah of you know, we know Cleveland Simpson, it looks

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Speaker 2: I think it looks wide open because it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think they're playing games every day.

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Speaker 1: They might have a different guy getting reps with the Ones,

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Speaker 1: and that could be the case over the course of

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Speaker 1: the next you know, all the way up to training camp.

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Speaker 1: So I agree. I think it's a wide open position

549
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Speaker 1: battle and you can't rule anybody out at this point,

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Speaker 1: and it's just they're they're they're given these guys a

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Speaker 1: fair shake to see who ends up winning that job.

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Speaker 1: The other the other note, I would say the big

553
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Speaker 1: not from practice. JK Dobbins did not practice. Not sure

554
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Speaker 1: you know why. John Harwall's talk with the media before

555
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Speaker 1: practice and didn't give any indication at that point that

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Speaker 1: JK wasn't going to practice. As we know, Jk's put

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Speaker 1: out the tweets and there's you know, speculation about his

558
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: contract situation and all that. But so he did not practice,

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Speaker 1: so we didn't get a chance to see how he looks.

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Speaker 1: Gus Edwards though, did practice a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's been on the sidelines over the course of the offseason.

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Speaker 1: He did return to practice and went through individual drills,

563
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Speaker 1: seemed to move fine. You know, we didn't see him

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Speaker 1: in full team work yet, and I think the Ravens

565
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Speaker 1: are just being cautious with him giving his knee his

566
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Speaker 1: knee issues so you know, it was good to see

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Speaker 1: him back out there, at least in a limited role.

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Speaker 2: It was I mean, Gus, we know what he can

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Speaker 2: do when he's healthy, and you know, it's been it's

570
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: been a long road for him. You know, these knee

571
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: injuries to to running backs. You know, to any player

572
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: it's difficult, but yeah, to a back who yeah, I

573
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Speaker 2: mean they make their living, you know, trying to make

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Speaker 2: guys miss, trying to break tackles. Gus, to me, you know,

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Speaker 2: physically looks great.

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Speaker 1: I mean I heard you and Ryan talking on the

577
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Speaker 1: podcast about you put him in like he what did you?

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Speaker 1: Would you say? He's like in Derrick Henry's like, he's

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Speaker 1: in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: He's getting in that hood where guys they make business

581
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Speaker 2: decisions when it's time to tackle him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I do want to see.

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Speaker 2: Gus ramp up, you know, out there, and we will, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, we'll get to that. And it is JK JK

585
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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know what JK is capable of, and

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Speaker 2: the way JK played after he got the knee procedure, uh,

588
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: you know last season that was yeah, it's like, okay,

589
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Speaker 2: the burst was back. So yeah, We'll see how this

590
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: how this all shakes out, But I know the Ravens

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Speaker 2: are planning on JK and Guts being that one two

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Speaker 2: punch that has, you know, the potential to be really

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Speaker 2: really effective.

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Speaker 1: I do think Justice Hill is making the most of

595
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Speaker 1: his opportunity, Like he's getting work with the ones JK

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Speaker 1: and Gus aren't out there he was. He resigned this offseason,

597
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: and he's got burst, he's got some juice, and so

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Speaker 1: I think he's trying to show Todd Mounkin and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the coaches like, hey, you know, keep me

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Speaker 1: in mind here, don't forget about me in this mix,

601
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Like I can still play, and I like, I do

602
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Speaker 1: like what I have seen from him.

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Speaker 3: True professional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, has also been you know it went through a injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, tough, great on special teams. But as you said,

606
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Speaker 2: he's got skills. So you know, he is taking advantage

607
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Speaker 2: of this opportunity to show more reps. And I know

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Speaker 2: that the coaching staff know, they know he can play too.

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Speaker 2: So again it's still June. We'll see how the running

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Speaker 2: back situations shapes out. But yeah, I mean I am

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Speaker 2: curious training camp to see, you know, how things are

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Speaker 2: because at some point you want to start building some rhythm,

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Speaker 2: especially in a new offense. I think that they're gonna

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Speaker 2: throw to the backs more too. I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to use the backs in maybe slightly different ways than

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Speaker 2: they were used before. So the quicker they can get

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Speaker 2: out there and be a part of that, the better.

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