WEBVTT - Cody Rhodes To WWE/Elimination Chamber Update

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<v Speaker 1>is Thursday on this program. So we got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff to talk about here today, not the least

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<v Speaker 1>of which is uh my new cameo. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>about that yet I'm kidding. It's not the top story, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>The top story the departure of Cody Rhodes from a

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<v Speaker 1>W seems to be heading to w W E here

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<v Speaker 1>very soon. We're gonna talk to you about that. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually talked a lot about this couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dave and I talked about it last night. Still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about why this happened, what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>what the plans are for Cody, So we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit today. He was mentioned on the

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<v Speaker 1>A W Show last night and it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>if you have ever watched UFC or Bellatour, they referenced

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's left, and it's not like that person never existed.

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<v Speaker 1>They mentioned that there had been a dog collar match before.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been one dog collar match in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>a W and it did involve Cody, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned we're gonna have a second one, and the first

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<v Speaker 1>one involved Cody Rhodes and like nothing in it, he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't left. Nothing so interesting the way that they handled

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<v Speaker 1>it not an angle. In case any of you are

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<v Speaker 1>still on net on that deal. We got ratings for

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<v Speaker 1>the Valentine'sday edition of n x T, last show on

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<v Speaker 1>sci Fi before they return to the USA network. Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Atlas will be got undergoing surgery for a torn a

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<v Speaker 1>c L. We've got an update on the elimination chamber,

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<v Speaker 1>including yes, a really stupid stipulation for a match, and

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<v Speaker 1>so much more. We're gonna kick it off out of

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<v Speaker 1>the break with Mike semper vv. So stick around, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in a moment Wrestling Observer Live. Back in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Bright Albert is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike sumber Viv

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<v Speaker 1>also Wrestling Observer dot Com. We got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>news to get into here today, don't we, Mike, We do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear your show yesterday, but I did hear

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<v Speaker 1>about the highlight, which was I'm in an airplane. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hear about the highlight, however, which was that Filthy

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<v Speaker 1>Tom suggested that now that Brandy has gone from a

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<v Speaker 1>w that the Brandy page of Van Zant feud continues

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<v Speaker 1>on in bare knuckle fighting. Hat to say. I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought of that one, but I laughed. He got me,

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<v Speaker 1>and he rarely does. Usually Filthy time is all about jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't funny? But you know how it is? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>buy a shirt from him last night? During the meat

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<v Speaker 1>and Great? That wasn't that wasn't around m but I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he did very well. Hey, listen, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to read something here because I got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>questions about it. And uh, I want to make something

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<v Speaker 1>clear to everybody. You know, I've said before that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how come you spoil this for how come you're spoiling

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<v Speaker 1>at Ronda Rowse. He's gonna wrestle with one hand tie

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<v Speaker 1>behind her back, But you didn't spoil that that see

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<v Speaker 1>him Punk was gonna debut in Chicago. Well, first off,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about Hunky being in Chicago for like weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know for sure, but I presumed the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell you for sure, so I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. So anyway, I want to make it clear

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know for sure all of the situation

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<v Speaker 1>involving involving Cody. Dave decided to tell the world that

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that had been in contact with Cody, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I send him a picture of my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I didn't ask him about all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with why he left a w and where he's going,

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to know why, because he ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say anything about it, all right, He's not gonna say anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was an article that came out the other

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<v Speaker 1>day that got a lot of press, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to read part of this all right. It says when

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<v Speaker 1>it one, when at one point felt highly unlikely, will

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<v Speaker 1>apparently become a reality. Cody Rhodes returning to w w

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<v Speaker 1>E after being an integral part of a w since

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<v Speaker 1>its twenty nineteen launch. Justin barrass report of the news Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that quote sources close to the situation have confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>that his next destination will be back where his career

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<v Speaker 1>started in w w E. No time for him, given

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<v Speaker 1>reports speculator Rohads could begin filming vignettes to the performance

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<v Speaker 1>center as soon as this weekend. The sources also say

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<v Speaker 1>that Cody's wife Brandy is not expected to join him

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<v Speaker 1>in w w E if it is that. If that

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<v Speaker 1>is the case, it's unknown where her entring career would

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<v Speaker 1>continue if she wants to pursue it. I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>got that. I thought we made that clear as a

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<v Speaker 1>bare knuckle fighting right. Barrasso's sources also said that Cody's

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<v Speaker 1>wife Brandy and not returning. Noted that rhodes may departure

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<v Speaker 1>was due to creative differences with his portrayal specifically the

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<v Speaker 1>stardust character. Those issues quote will be a non factor

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<v Speaker 1>in his return, where he's expected to have a far

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<v Speaker 1>different relationship with the writing team and Vince McMahon. It

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<v Speaker 1>says the report pointed to a specific area of friction

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<v Speaker 1>regarding Rhodes losing booking power over time. Quote. While Rhodes

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<v Speaker 1>was never intended to overstay his welcome in the World

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<v Speaker 1>Title Picture, one key factor that led to his exit

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<v Speaker 1>was losing all responsibilities involving booking. That is a role

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<v Speaker 1>where Tony Khan, who is head of Creative, has taken

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<v Speaker 1>full rain. Originally rose as a part of that process.

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<v Speaker 1>As great as Dusty was as a performer, his contributions

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<v Speaker 1>as a booker are an integral part of his legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>For Rhodes, a w represented another chance to pay homage

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<v Speaker 1>to his father as a booker while also further cementing

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<v Speaker 1>his own legacy. Losing that opportunity in a w hurt

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<v Speaker 1>Rhodes more than any loss he suffered in the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote justin here. Now, I've had a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>saying clearly that came from Cody. That's what they've said.

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<v Speaker 1>Now listen, all I know is this, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Cody's talking about any of this to anybody. Maybe he is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think so. All Right, I am totally

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<v Speaker 1>hung up on this because people keep bringing it up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're telling me, okay, that Cody was not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>book an A e W, so he chose to leave

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<v Speaker 1>to go somewhere where he's not going to be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to book. This doesn't make any sense, Okay. Now, do

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that he was upset that he no longer

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<v Speaker 1>had the ability to book programs? Sure, I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>he probably was upset about that. Do I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that is the crux of the reason that he left

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<v Speaker 1>a W? No? What do I think is the crux

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<v Speaker 1>of the idea? And I have not heard anything from

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<v Speaker 1>Cody about why he left. But let's look at this logically.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the crux of the reason that he would

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<v Speaker 1>leave this company? Well, I believe that, ironically, because this

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<v Speaker 1>was his idea, he did the stipulation where he was

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<v Speaker 1>no longer going to ever fight for the world title

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a multi time uh T and T champion.

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<v Speaker 1>But unless they we're gonna do some sort of storyline

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<v Speaker 1>to break this stipulation, which, by the way, in storyline

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<v Speaker 1>he came, but so they could have found a way

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<v Speaker 1>around it. But he wasn't gonna be in the world

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<v Speaker 1>title picture. And Cody was doing things for a W

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<v Speaker 1>But was Cody a tippy top guy? Was he the

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<v Speaker 1>top guy in the promotion? No? When you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>show and you see the rise of of m JF

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got Brian Danielson, and you've got CM punk

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got John Moxley and all of these other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>does anybody think that at any at any point in

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<v Speaker 1>the foreseeable future, Cody was going to be the number

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<v Speaker 1>one top guy in a W. No. Do I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he believes that he can walk into w w

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<v Speaker 1>E and either on the Raw SmackDown brand be the

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<v Speaker 1>top guy on that brand. As I'm about to sneeze

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Yes, I believe that he believes that. So

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<v Speaker 1>number one, I think he thinks that by going to

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<v Speaker 1>w W, E is gonna have a better spot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I also believe that not only is he gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a better spot, he's probably going to make more money

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<v Speaker 1>because they're gonna throw money at this guy so they

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<v Speaker 1>can say we got a founder of a W WE

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<v Speaker 1>got a VP that is worth millions of dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two things, Those two things are the reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that Cody left a w and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to w W E. However the cards may fall, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. As I said to Dave last night, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>could like sure that this whole thing is gonna fail. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Vince is out of his mind. You guys may all

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<v Speaker 1>be right, Okay, but if Vince has this much of

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<v Speaker 1>a clue, okay, this much, which is not a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to push this guy to the moon. Because

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<v Speaker 1>if Cody jump shipped w w E and he's in

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<v Speaker 1>that stardust costume, or he's doing jobs left, left and right,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's a failure, nobody it's gonna want to leave

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<v Speaker 1>a w W w E. You want him JF, you

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<v Speaker 1>want Sammy Gavara, you want Wardlow, you want whoever. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>They ain't gonna think about this if you get Cody

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<v Speaker 1>and you screw this whole thing up and you bury

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. So it is in their best interests to

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<v Speaker 1>push this guy to the stratosphere. So in a few

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<v Speaker 1>years when these contracts come due, these guys are going, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I can make more money and they're gonna push me

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<v Speaker 1>to the moon. So anyway, that's my quick Cody speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything to add Mike, I, Um, I just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>how that benefits anybody that comes after him anyway, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they are successful with Cody, even if he's

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<v Speaker 1>got any successful voyage there, I don't see how that

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<v Speaker 1>changes anybody else's trajectory or really changes anybody else's mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can make a claim as to why

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<v Speaker 1>it would, but where's the I mean, we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing plays out. But we Tom and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about this yesterday as far as maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some of the pieces that are are moving in different

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<v Speaker 1>directions here, and we'll see if this is really about

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<v Speaker 1>money or what this is exactly about, because it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see what he's giving up as far as things

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<v Speaker 1>with Turner and things like that, and who knows how

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<v Speaker 1>they'll go. But I you're asking a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you really are. Again, I don't know how that changes

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<v Speaker 1>anything for anybody that comes after him. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how that Like if if Cody Rhodes goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>a place that he's been and everything, let's say everything

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<v Speaker 1>is great for Cody but his status quo with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the company, how things have been going. Sammy

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<v Speaker 1>Gavar is gonna want to jump over, m jf is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to jump over. It's just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing that they can offer for sure is money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for absolute day. I'm sure what what peacock and

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<v Speaker 1>what other things that that Cody Rhodes and his family

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<v Speaker 1>could benefit from being under that umbrella or being away

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<v Speaker 1>from where they are right now. I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you know when he comes to the wrestling aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta prove it to me. We'll be back in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Observer Live Back in the show. Bran Elber

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<v Speaker 1>is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike Simber viv also Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer dot Com. Mike, Well, I can ask you a

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<v Speaker 1>question here, okay, and ask you this question. You're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that you don't think it would make any difference

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<v Speaker 1>whether Cody is pushed or not pushed when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to whether anybody else would want to jump ship to

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<v Speaker 1>w W E. Is that what you said. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that. No, I didn't say that. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>see how it's going to benefit anybody that greatly. And

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<v Speaker 1>when people don't just look at individually what happens with Cody,

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<v Speaker 1>who's got a history there, who has some value to

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<v Speaker 1>him there, How does this benefit everybody else per se?

0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, because of Cody Rhodes gets treated one way.

0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Kingston is gonna want to jump over, They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have interest with him, They're gonna know what to do

0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.880
<v Speaker 1>with him, with Darby Allen, with m JF, with Sammy Goobara,

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of people. Sure it might look better

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface if Cody goes over there and is successful. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to look at everything individually. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to look at history. You have to look at a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things here. So just because Cody Rhodes, even

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<v Speaker 1>if that goes all that well, Ali resigned and we

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<v Speaker 1>saw how happy he was FDR at one point or

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<v Speaker 1>not FDR, but Gallows and Anderson were signed and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're cut right away. I mean, yeah, they're sure if

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<v Speaker 1>one person he goes well for them, Okay, that's great,

0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:15.320
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't necessarily mean anything goes better for anybody

0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.079
<v Speaker 1>else at all. I mean you can theorize and go, well, yeah,

0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.800
<v Speaker 1>if this happens, then this is gonna be good. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you look at the history of who you're talking about,

0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and so you have to look at the history. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's go back. Let's go back to nine

0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.400
<v Speaker 1>when Kevin Nash with the failed w w E champion.

0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall was just a mid card guy who had

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<v Speaker 1>been the interconinal champion. Lex Luger was doing nothing, to

0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the point where they even bother to resign him to

0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a contract. He's just working without a contract. Scott Hall

0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.640
<v Speaker 1>jumps at w CW Big Money, Big Push. Scott Hall

0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>jumps at w CW, Big Money, big Push, Lex Luger

0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:04.040
<v Speaker 1>jumps at w W Big Money, big Push. Everybody wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go to w c W after that happen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not Chris jer Chris Jericho was what they were doing

0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing with this guy. He wanted out. He jumped shipped

0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to w w E. He gets the huge countdown clock,

0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.640
<v Speaker 1>he gets the giant debut, He's going toe to toe

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<v Speaker 1>with the rock. Everybody wanted to jump to w WF.

0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.200
<v Speaker 1>If Chris Jericho would have jumped over to tow w

0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.400
<v Speaker 1>WF and done a job for TACA. Mitchinoku was first

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<v Speaker 1>night in and they buried him and he was a geek.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah, nobody would have wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 1>w w F Obviously, Obviously, if I'm Darby Allen, if

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<v Speaker 1>they signed Cody and they give him ten million dollars

0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and he beats Roman Reigns at WrestleMania, if I'm Darby Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still not going to w W because I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's not any chance because I'm small. They're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do anything with a guy who's the size of Darby Ellen.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I m m JF and I am a

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<v Speaker 1>top guy in a w and let's say I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars a year and my deal comes up

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<v Speaker 1>in four or whatever, and w W he comes, they go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, We're gonna give you two million dollars

0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a year. If I am JF and I look and

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<v Speaker 1>I see that they screwed up Cody and did nothing

0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.040
<v Speaker 1>with him and had him doing jobs and he's a geek,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think about it. But if I see

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<v Speaker 1>that they pushed Cody and he was a top guy

0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's been a top guy ever since he jumped ship,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're offering me three million dollars, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that they did something with the last big name that jumped.

0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I think about it. Do I do it? I don't

0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.600
<v Speaker 1>know if I do it, but I think about it.

0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.880
<v Speaker 1>If Cody is buried, I don't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is imperative that they do something with Cody.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise nobody's going to even think about going over there.

0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.920
<v Speaker 1>If they can't do something with Cody, who do they

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<v Speaker 1>have over there that you go, you know what, maybe

0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.480
<v Speaker 1>they do something with me Nobody, Maybe Wardlow because he's big,

0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.240
<v Speaker 1>jacked up dude. I know they want Wordlow, but it

0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:04.000
<v Speaker 1>is imperative if that they book Cody. Well, same reason

0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.639
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to go to a W right now, the

0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.240
<v Speaker 1>same reason like Ruby Right wanted to jump ship. They

0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.400
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing anything with the Ruby Right and she saw

0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity for money and actually being used on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. And you can go down the list of

0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.880
<v Speaker 1>guys that went that way because there was a benefit

0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.679
<v Speaker 1>to them going that way. But what's the benefit of

0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.320
<v Speaker 1>going to w W E If they can't figure out

0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.520
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with Cody Rhods E v P. There's

0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.280
<v Speaker 1>no benefit. No one's going to think about it. They

0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:34.159
<v Speaker 1>have to use this guy Oh yeah, Well, if you're

0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna sign somebody, then yeah, you should probably go ahead

0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and use them. I still don't see how this ultimately,

0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.760
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day will benefit anybody else. Again,

0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.679
<v Speaker 1>it clears the track a little bit, but you know,

0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more to me that goes into this

0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.320
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of other people individually than than with Cody.

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.399
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately we are going to see how this is

0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.560
<v Speaker 1>going to benefit him and what he is able to do.

0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Because we've talked about his interests that are adjacent to

0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and that our individual from pro wrestling, and he has

0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 1>those things. One thing for sure is he is walking

0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 1>into a situation when coming over the NBC Universal streaming

0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.400
<v Speaker 1>service in Peacock where the Bella's miss and Maurice. I mean,

0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he's got benefits now already that have shown themselves to

0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.760
<v Speaker 1>be on go big show and on roads to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though that that was a w ASSOCIATED I mean

0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, that is where the draw is for w

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>w E because I think ultimately, even if Cody gets

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<v Speaker 1>treated great, you kind of know what box you're going

0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to be in from a sports entertainment point of view

0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and what your art is inside the ring. That is

0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.239
<v Speaker 1>going to change regardless of of Cody and what they

0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:53.919
<v Speaker 1>let him do or what they don't let him do.

0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.639
<v Speaker 1>The styles are completely different. But where w w E

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<v Speaker 1>may be able to be a benefit for some people

0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:06.120
<v Speaker 1>is because of associations with Fox, associations with UH with

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Peacock and NBC Universal, where some of those things that

0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he obviously likes to do, some of the things that

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 1>come from that charitable works and a lot of things

0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that open up different doors for you. That's very important

0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to him and for people who that life is important,

0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.880
<v Speaker 1>people who want to get in the movies, people want

0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to do more with TV. That's where w w E

0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.080
<v Speaker 1>may be the ultimate benefit for anybody who is on

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<v Speaker 1>the fence or is somebody that feels as though that

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 1>they are going to be able to function maybe at

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.880
<v Speaker 1>different levels, but we'll be able to function fine individually

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in both systems. So to me. Now, you know, as

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.520
<v Speaker 1>we get into the future and as we go along

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.080
<v Speaker 1>with these companies and we see what they're about and

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.160
<v Speaker 1>how they're built, it may come down to also how

0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.480
<v Speaker 1>much can I do? Where can I ascend to there

0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that's got nothing to do with wrestling, but has got

0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:01.119
<v Speaker 1>some things to do with securing my future in other ways. Saturday,

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:06.680
<v Speaker 1>we have got the Elimination Chamber Show and it appears

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.159
<v Speaker 1>to be and until this is announced on SmackDown, it's

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.720
<v Speaker 1>not official, but apparently their idea is that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any idea why Rhonda Rousey and Naomi versus

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte and Sonya Deville will have the stipulation that Rohonda

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<v Speaker 1>Rousey must wrestle with one hand tied behind her back.

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<v Speaker 1>What so listen? Obviously, because Sonya Deville is involved, a

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:36.920
<v Speaker 1>person who doesn't watch the show could say, well, she's

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<v Speaker 1>the heel GM she's gonna rule that Ronda Rousey has

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<v Speaker 1>to wrestle with one dude. On the show Friday, they

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<v Speaker 1>did an angle where Vince McMahon sent word that Sonya

0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Deville was abusing her power and then if she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch herself, she was gonna find herself in serious trouble.

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.680
<v Speaker 1>So now you're gonna go to the angle that she

0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>is demanding Rohonda Rousey wrestle with one hand tied behind

0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 1>her back. Doesn't make any sense. It's stupid, it's an

0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a useless stipulation, and I'm disgusted. I even had

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 1>to announce that the stipulation just to do one. That's

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 1>how she gets her revenge on Ronda. That's the best

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 1>she can come up with. As in a w W

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>official is Hey, you're gonna wrestle a match with one

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<v Speaker 1>hand behind your back because the owner of the company

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 1>won't let me suspend you. Okay, It's interesting. I mean

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 1>he's he's been on raw with because this has been

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<v Speaker 1>going on for how long? And I thought he was

0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.320
<v Speaker 1>having a phone contact with these people anyway. I mean

0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 1>he was having it with Adam Pierce. So why all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, why now is Sonya Devill apparently doing

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 1>something very evil to Naomi somebody who she's been what

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 1>on about this now for what six eight months? Whatever

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.879
<v Speaker 1>it's been. This person she just figured out that Sonya

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>is wrestling in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, Sonya Deville is wrestling

0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>in Saudi Arabia. And this person here knows that the

0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 1>storyline is it because Sonia has her arm and is

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<v Speaker 1>sling and has to put her arm in a sling. Well,

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.560
<v Speaker 1>first off, wis so when you're wrestling of her arms

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and a sling number one? Number two, how about the

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 1>other person not having to wrestle with their arm in

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a sling. It's stupid, one thing is for sure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people may come down because

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 1>they have their own thoughts on Sonya wrestling in Saudi Arabia,

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta say, for her personally, kudos. I think

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it's falsy. I can give you, and I'm sure she

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<v Speaker 1>can give you. Every reason in the world not to

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<v Speaker 1>go as a lesbian woman, uh, going over to that

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>country and performing, But she's doing it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>away from the company, away from anything that it may mean.

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I can see, you know, her point of view and

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>going over there. It's a again, it is a really

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<v Speaker 1>something I think. For again, it's I know they're gonna

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>say they're claiming they're changing the world with all this

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff and all that garbage. But I think from an

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<v Speaker 1>individual point of view, you know, kudos to her because

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have to do this. I can see the

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>reasons not to do this, but I can also absolutely

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>see the reasons to do this, and to try to

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<v Speaker 1>in your own way, sticking up the rear end of

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a government that probably doesn't like your whole how come

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>A lot I think is uh. I think that's so

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<v Speaker 1>that is a way to do something. It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in her it takes a lot of rule

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<v Speaker 1>set to do it. President show has lashly lesnar rawlins

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<v Speaker 1>aj Riddle in Austin Theory for the w w E title.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Bianca Ria Live do Drop, Nicky Ash and

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Alexa Bliss for the women's title shot so the winner

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<v Speaker 1>gets Becky Lynch. We got Roman Rains Goldberg Universal title,

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<v Speaker 1>Becky Lynch Lada for the raw women's title. Leader has

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 1>already announced. I got nothing booked after this show. I

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give spoilers or anything. Husos Versus Viking

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Raiders SmackDown take team titles. Drew Mack there met Keep

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Moss Falls Count Anywhere, and Ray Mysterio and the miss

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<v Speaker 1>I at a moment with the Dynamite reporters. You're live

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<v Speaker 1>back in the show. Ryan Ever is here Wrestling Observer Live.

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Mike sumber Viv, also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where Vinny's at, trying to find out where

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>this bloke is. Is he supposed to be one on

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the right island. We'll know, but they showed. They showed

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>up last night, and I know they went over that place.

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<v Speaker 1>But I haven't seen him all day and no one's

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>answering my text, So may have to do a welfare

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 1>check here. Be real careful before you go over and

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>do a welfare check, try to exhaust all the other

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>options first, because you don't want to, you know, busting

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>on anybody find out to be the live. It's a vacation,

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Maybe he just doesn't want to be bothered. Bro,

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it's twelve thirty nine Pacific right now, it's the afternoon.

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>He cannot possibly still be sleeping. Maybe he's not got

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>his woman somewhere enjoying himself, not trying to think about

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 1>watching wrestling and reviewing it with you. The cars here,

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>so they're not out for a walk show, okay without

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>his phone. Sam Punk came out to open of the

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>show and he did a great from We'll talking about

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>MGF at a picture of MGF, young, MJF and CM

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Punk when he was a kid, and he pointed out

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that you know, that was the greatest day year life

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 1>for me. It was Tuesday, and it's gonna be the

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 1>greatest day of your life or the bloodiest day of

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>your life coming up in the pay per view. But

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's also just gonna be Saturday or Sunday

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>word of the day is anyway, The point is he

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>kept bringing up Ruddy Piper and how MGFF wants to

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.479
<v Speaker 1>be Ruddy Piper in Portlands. So the stipulation for this

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>match is going to be dog color match coming up

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>at the pay per view. You know what I'm saying, Mike,

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>dog color match. Sorry, didn't want to jump. How can

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you get them in your mic out of the way

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's a a w review and you usually want

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>to have these, So go ahead, have at it. People

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>have not heard from you in like forty eight hours here.

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>They want to hear from you. What else I've heard

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>from Vinnie? And I'm getting a text right here to

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>make sure he's all right cool? Well is he okay?

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I haven't heard from him. I heard

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>from well as you do that. I did like the

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 1>way that c M. Punk emphasized will you be my Valentine?

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>And then Tony Schavani said it because yes, Roddy Piper

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>did have doll collar matches in Portland, had some great

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>bloody brawls with Buddy Rose the sheep herders. People like that.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 1>But he is most famously known for, in his baby

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>face form, the dog collar match with Greg the Hammer

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Valentine that began way back in two when Rick Flair

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and Greg Valentine rammed his face into the concrete and

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>scraped it all up. He was looking for revenge and

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously that Piper Valentine for you is pretty legendary. Those

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>dollar collar matches or legendary, and I think a fine

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>choice for a guy with m JF who keeps running away.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a cool thing to do. All

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>right back to this show right here, we had Jungle Boy,

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Luca stores in Christian back stage and they're talking about

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the uh, the three way at the pay per view,

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a three way wrestling match. I might add, it's gonna

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>be there's gonna be two Battle Royals. The two winning

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 1>teams will be facing Luca Sours and Jungle Boy in

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a three way. And Jungle Boy made a comment about

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>winning Battle Royals and he padded Christian on the back.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Because this is a two years storyline at this point,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>or Christian Cage will finally screwed Jungle Boy for throwing

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>him out of that Battle Royal year and a half

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>ago or whatever it was. Year ago, Ryan Jannison beat

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Lee Moriard Team. I thought this match was rate killed

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>this poor bloke that gave Lee Moriarty a lot, but

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't winning and he took up beating and it was.

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>It was glorious. And then afterwards he called out John Moxley.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>He wants an answer to whether or not team and

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>John Moxley came out and he did this fabulous promo

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and the gist of it is, if you want all

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the details, if I can find Vinnie, we're gonna do

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>uh Brian Vinney show tonight talking about all the details.

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>But just the story here is that he has never

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>beaten Brian Danielson. John Moxley has never beaten Brian Danielson

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 1>in his career. And he said, you know what I

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>thought about everything you said. I thought it would be

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>awesome to team up and do all those things you

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about, But I'm not sure if you want to

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>team up with me or if you just don't want

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to wrestle me anymore. So essentially it looks like John

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Moxley and Brian Danielson are going to be having a fight,

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a bloody fight, and after the fights over will find

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>out if they end up teaming together. I am totally

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>fine with us. If you want to team these guys together,

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the knock yourselves out. But I want to match first.

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>So it looks like we're gonna get him Wardlow beat

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Max castor Face of the Revolution ladder match qualifier. I

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's gonna happen, but my presumption is at

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Wardlow winds and uh he gets the T and T

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>title and MGF wants him to hand that title over

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't, and that's gonna be the end of that.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>But we'll see where it goes. Hangman Page promo, Adam

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Cole showed up. Adam called berries. The guy points out,

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I've been all over the world. I've shared a lot

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of locker rooms with you. We were roommates, but everywhere

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I've gone, You've always just been known as the other atom.

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>So of course Adam Page is furious and he wants

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to fight and Cole, wait a second, I respect you.

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that one of these days we're gonna have

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a great match for that championship, and when we do,

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>may the best man win. And he walks out and

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>he's got a smile on his face, and of course

0:29:55.000 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a ruse red Dragon attacks Page. They beat him down.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Cole runs back. It's a three way beating. Dark Order

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>makes a save. They needed some reason for Adam Cole

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to face Ten on rampage, so what they came up

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>with was Ten beat up a bunch of security guards

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like a madman. I guess this was explained on BTE,

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but sure wasn't explained on Dynamite. Santana Ortiz beat Jericho

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>and Jake Hagar. They had a good match, and at

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the end out came Eddie Kingston and Eddie Kingston distracted

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jericho and Jericho ended up going for the Judas

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>effect he missed, Santanna hit him with a Hilariat pinned

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jericho. So it appears this split is pretty much uh.

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't say it's inner circles for sure done,

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>but it looks like they're done and we'll have to

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>find out what happens with with um you know what's

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>his name? Who gets custody of Jake Hagar and his

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>relocal Jake Hagar but me Gavara because he wanted them

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to figure their s out or he was gonna quit.

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Jericho did the job here and then had

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a big brawl with Eddie Kingston. So it appears that

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>they are going to be having a match probably the

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>pay per view. We have a lot of matches that

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>appears coming up for this paper view. It's looking like

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good card. Thunder Rosa beat Mercedes Martinez and

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a notice qualification match, way better than their first match.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>They had that lame d Q finish, but the lame

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>d Q was done to set up a no holds barred,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>anything goes hardcore match, and thunder Rosa beat her with

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a thunder fire Driver fire thunder Driver thunder fire bomb.

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>She dropped her on some chairs pender and then afterwards

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Britt Baker and the crew came out and they got

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>in the ring and they wanted Mercedes Martinez to beat

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>up thunder Rose after the match, but she wanted nothing

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to do with this, and so they attacked her. They

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>beat her up, and so we got a lot of

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>things coming. We got obviously the tag match here that

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it could be done on Dynamite or ram page.

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>We got the championship match with thunder Rose and Britt

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Baker I'm sure coming up at the pay per view

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good stuff there. Malachi Black video with

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Brody King. There's a third guy coming rumored to be

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the former Buddy Murphy now Buddy Matthews. I don't like it.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to see I want to see that match

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Malachi Black and and Buddy Matthews because you know what,

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>they had a match on Raw, two of them, actually,

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>there were two of the best matches on Raw in

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like all of last year and UH to think that

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>they would be able to do that match with the

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>zero restrictions in a W I think this needs to

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>be like see him punk and UH or not see

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>him punk um, John Moxley and Brian Danielson. They need

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to fight. Then they need a team. I can I

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you what. Just throw this in there too for

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>anybody it's looking for some old audio to listen to

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Buddy Matthews appearance on this program talking about out some

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>of those matches, the one at the Garden, the ones

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>on TV, all that stuff with UH and some of

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the responses they got in some of the thought behind

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>those matches with Malachi. I would strongly suggest anybody that

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a chance to hear him on here with

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>us go back and listen to that show. I thought

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it was great. And then the main event actually rampage.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>First we've got Adam colever no spoilers, Adam Cole versus

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>ten J White versus Trent Barretta Srina Deep with a

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>five minute challenge against some local geek, and we do

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>have Powerhouse Hobbs versus Dante Martin faced the Revolution Qualifier,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>which that one's not immediately obvious who's gonna win, so

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>at least we got one at just reading the lineup,

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it is not spoiled. And then next week we got

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the House of Black versus Death Triangle, Eddie Kingston and

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jericho face to face and the tag team Battle

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Royale for the Top Contender Ship. Main events Sammy Gavarra

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and Darby Ellen Man. These guys had a great match

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>because it is two guys, impossible for them not to

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>have a great match, and uh it was awesome. Then uh,

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Jose got involved. Jose and got on the apron sting,

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>yanked him off, goes to beat him up, Referees distracted

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and draw shows up. Hits Darby Ellen with his iPad.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Sammy gavart turns around, he sees the guy on the thing,

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll knocked down and he's like, nah, I'll do what

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do. Hits him with the g t H

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>pins him, and then Matt Hardy runs down to beat

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>up Darby Allen, Sammy Gavara chases him off and draw

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a waxing with the iPad posed with both of the

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>TNT titles. So obviously we got the Face of the

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Revolution Ladder match, and like I said, I think Wardlow

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is probably gonna win and end up winning the TNT title.

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>But I mean there's so many things that they do

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>where I look at this and I think, you know,

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Darby lost because of andrawd A, like Androide wants the

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>titles you could have, andraw A beat Sammy and then

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Darby gets his revenge and on Troday to win the

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>titles back. I mean, there's so many things that you

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>could do with with everything that they do here. But

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens. Face of the Revolution Ladder match

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>coming up, and the winner is gonna get a shot

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>at that title. At some point, I thought this was

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>an excellent show. Yeah, I thought it was a really

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>good one as well too, And it makes a lot

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>of sense with wordload to go ahead and win. He

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>gets that designation on the pay per view. Not only that,

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>it gives the re another reason for m JF to

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>cause some havoc and demand the title and then that

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>split happens there. It makes complete sense. Um interesting to

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>see what they'll do with them JF and see him

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>punk as well too. I assume this is an official match.

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>The dog collar match has long been one of the

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>times where they will turn out the lights and they'll

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>make it lights out, they'll make it unsanctioned. It will

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 1>be interesting to see if they do something to move

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>things into that direction by the time the pay per

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>view rolls around, just to add a little bit of

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 1>drama in danger to the match as well as again,

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>just just something that you can set up that you

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>can do there where it won't affect anybody's record. Uh.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 1>In case you wanted to have Warlow be the one

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>that puts the big mark on m JP here coming

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>up as the official Low. Since they do like to

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>do that, you can debate it. We talked about it

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>with Orange Cassidy and with Adam Cole. We talked about

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it in the past with thunder Rosa and with m

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>who was a brick Baker. I think it was in

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that in the un sanctioned match, so they are willing

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 1>to do that, so it will be interesting to see

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>if they play that aspect of things going into that match.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I presume you guys talked about this n x T

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:48.720
<v Speaker 1>two point oh we did. Yeah, then do a great number.

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess surprise about that. You shouldn't be if you are,

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not much of a listener, showed viewers, which was

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>up thirty one. I suppose you can celebrate that if

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to, but best because the last show did

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>four thousand, eighteen and forty nine a point one one, which,

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>if you throw out the point oh seven that they

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>did last week, ties the lowest eighteen forty nine demo

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>rating for any w w E show ever, So not

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>really anything to celebrate their forty eight on cable and

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, Raw actually did shockingly well, but this n

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>XT Vengeance Day still not a good number on on

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Sci Fi and you know, at nauseum, why the hell

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>did they run this show on Sci Fi? Why didn't

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they just wait a week? Anyway, backing hum up with

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<v Speaker 1>more Observer Live. Come Monday Day, Come, Come Monday Day Day,

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<v Speaker 1>Come Monday. Come Come Monday. Set the state book. See

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<v Speaker 1>rang and I I think it's me that can give.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that I won't track, but I'm imagine back

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<v Speaker 1>at the show. Bryan Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>smber Viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. It'll be pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to know I Vinnie's alive. Finally found him. Party's over

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<v Speaker 1>in that guest house there, slept for over eleven hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Who does that? Sure? Never mind? Well, uh, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back tonight on the Brian and Vinny Show from a

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<v Speaker 1>special location. I've got it all. I got all set

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<v Speaker 1>up and ready to go for tonight. Talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>w n x T and Moore and Brandon Thurston here

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<v Speaker 1>a w Dynamite Last night eight hundred sixty nine thousand viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>four six thousand, eighteen and forty nine point three one

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<v Speaker 1>in persons eighteen to forty nine Dynamites lowest total viewership

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<v Speaker 1>since December one, lowest eighteen to forty nine since December fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that guy you eat me the Observer show last

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<v Speaker 1>night was right. Everyone quit watching because Cody left. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that would happen, but they were down total

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<v Speaker 1>viewership on viewership down twenty five from last week's so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have more on that here in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours. Gonna be honest, love that an XT number

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot better than it it probably could have been,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a good show too. It's too bad

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<v Speaker 1>that that actually happened on a night where they may

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<v Speaker 1>have had their best night since the whole rebranding. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did have their best night since the rebranding,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately nobody saw it better than last week. But

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<v Speaker 1>still tough road o for them for this week. What's

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<v Speaker 1>Briant doing after the show? This person asks, Going out

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<v Speaker 1>of this pool? Is what I'm doing after I post

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<v Speaker 1>these dynamite ratings and shut my Twitter off, disengage my

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<v Speaker 1>phones cellular service. But I will be back tomorrow. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>M I am tonight with Vinnie. Have a great day, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Helloha from Hawaii. Don't forget my cameo. Brian Alvarez f

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<v Speaker 1>W Online screwed it up. We're out of here. We'll

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