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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Theater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's noon o'clock for our friends in Mitchell, South Dakota.

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Speaker 2: Happy opening week of Pheasant season to everyone there. On Thursday,

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Speaker 2: October twenty third, and we're live for Meet Theater HQ

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Speaker 2: and Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Randall

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Speaker 2: and Corey. On today's show, we'll interview Josh Humbert, a

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Speaker 2: pearl farmer in one of the world's most remote places.

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Speaker 2: Then we have a white Tail Rot report from Mark Kenyon,

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Speaker 2: followed by some top three lists, and finally we'll interview

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Speaker 2: Michael Burton about using dating apps to find phishing spots.

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Speaker 2: But first we want to remind you that the Blood

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Speaker 2: Trails podcast drops on October thirtieth on its own feed

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Speaker 2: that's simply called Blood Trails. This is a new investigative

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Speaker 2: podcast for Meat Eater, hosted by journalists Jordan Sillers. Each

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Speaker 2: episode digs into true crime stories from the world of

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Speaker 2: hunting and fishing, cases where the woods and the water

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Speaker 2: became the backdrop for violence and mystery from missing hunters

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Speaker 2: deep in public land, to poachers turned killers, and fishing

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Speaker 2: trips gone fatally wrong. Blood Trails uncovers the moments when

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Speaker 2: outdoor life collides with homicide. Each story features original reporting,

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Speaker 2: expert insight from detectives, and first hand accounts from the

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Speaker 2: people who were actually there. The trailer is out right now.

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Speaker 2: You can go watch it on the Meat Eater podcast

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel and again the first episode drops October thirtieth

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Speaker 2: on the Blood Trails podcast feed. Very excited for that show. Also,

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Speaker 2: Randall has a plug for you now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to direct everyone's attention to the Is

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Speaker 3: it on the main channel.

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Speaker 4: It's as live as we are.

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Speaker 3: On the main Meat Eater YouTube channel, there's a new

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Speaker 3: video called the Great Buffalo Bred Experiment. And this is

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Speaker 3: sort of a high concept. It's high concept. Weed was involved, No, no,

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Speaker 3: just just it's elevated content. It's for a sophisticated, discerning viewership. Essentially,

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Speaker 3: when we were researching both the Mountain Men audiobook and

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Speaker 3: the Hide Hunters audiobook now available for purchase shameless plug,

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Speaker 3: we kept running into descriptions, and you run into descriptions

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Speaker 3: of this substance in any sort of writing about the

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Speaker 3: great Planes in the early nineteenth century a substance called

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Speaker 3: DePuy or how you spell that dee p u I

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Speaker 3: l l e s, And you get these very vivid

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Speaker 3: descriptions of it, and essentially it's the cap of fat

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Speaker 3: from a buffalo shoulder, and they prepare it by frying

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Speaker 3: it and then smoking it for a day, and they

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Speaker 3: repeatedly say that it's a substitute for bread. So you're

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Speaker 3: eating some meat, you eat this as your bread. And

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Speaker 3: in fact, we have one account where he says it's

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Speaker 3: superior to any bread that's ever been made. So Steve

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Speaker 3: and I made this and subjected some folks in the

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Speaker 3: office to a blind taste test to decide once and

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Speaker 3: for all whether this is in fact superior to any

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Speaker 3: bread that's ever been made. So this video on the

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Speaker 3: YouTube channel now is called the Great Buffalo Bread Experiment.

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Speaker 3: And we found we got a buffalo from our friends

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Speaker 3: at Northbridge or Bison, and we cut off the requisite

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Speaker 3: chunks of fat and we followed the instructions to a

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Speaker 3: tee and you can see the results of that on

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Speaker 5: So back in the day, they smoked these caps of

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Speaker 5: fat in a Dynama teepee.

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Speaker 3: They used a a tpe an actual buffalo of skin

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Speaker 5: I wondering if if there is a subtle hint to

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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think that was the problem.

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Speaker 2: Not to give too elevated content, only cool interesting piece.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean experimental, experimental culinary scene.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Caleb's asking Randall, if you have any wine and

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Speaker 4: cheese recommendation to pair with this elevated content.

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Speaker 3: Maybe some depuya, I would say a tall boy of

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Speaker 3: Mickey's Mickey's Malt liquor, Yes, and some string cheese. That's

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Speaker 3: used quite a bit of that. Try to get my

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Speaker 3: Get some of that in our next segment here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Blood Trails will be available next week. Alright, fellas we've

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Speaker 2: been in the field lately, let's do some hunt recaps.

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Speaker 2: This would make Yanni real happy. Random what you've been

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Speaker 3: Well, last weekend, my wife Sydney and I went antelope

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Speaker 3: And we were close enough to the car that next

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Speaker 3: began the processing work. And you can see there on Rosie,

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Speaker 2: And uh and so you're about to see a picture

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Speaker 3: Nope, nope, nope, but you will see on the next

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Speaker 3: slide we this is That was our dinner when we

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Speaker 3: got back is beautiful. Two backstraps from one of the

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Speaker 3: which is like a classic mill It's like a classic

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Speaker 3: steak sauce. It's sort of a cranberry it's almost like

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Speaker 3: cranberry sauce, but it's like a drizzle glaze type thing.

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Speaker 3: And it was quite tasty. So yeah, it was a

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Speaker 3: great start to the fall season and getting ready for.

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Speaker 2: Some more here a good couple days of analopin. Fantastic

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Speaker 2: classic goat en counters.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Oh, and then the highlight probably was we

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Speaker 3: that looked like, you know, kickballs with feathers.

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Speaker 2: And you still got that trivia question wrong yesterday? Or

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Speaker 2: were they not greater sage grouse?

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Speaker 3: No, they were. They were greater sage grouse.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen one in person.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we got a conclusion to the cheese

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Speaker 3: Well, it worked at first, but then they all got

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Speaker 2: What happened? You put cheese whiz like on the shower

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Speaker 2: I got in a up country That up to you, man.

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Speaker 5: I've had a very exciting fall, but exciting yet unsuccessful

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Speaker 5: so far. Been chasing Elk all September and a little

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Speaker 5: get a few buddies into Elk but haven't flung an

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Speaker 5: arrow and archery seasons coming gone rifle O Big Game

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Speaker 5: General Rifle opens this Saturday, so I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Days from now, give her hell with a rifle. You're

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, yep, got a few trips planned. Hopefully

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Speaker 5: I don't need to even go back out later in

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Speaker 5: the season. I just have a deer and an elk

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Speaker 3: That's because you're not putting in for the right units.

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Speaker 2: What are the odds to kill kill an elk this weekend?

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Speaker 5: but as the season drags on and it gets colder

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Speaker 2: You ever killed one on a rifle opener? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Okay, fact my very first elk when I was thirty. Nice,

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Speaker 5: just in the right place at the right time, caught him.

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Speaker 5: He was running away from other people.

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Speaker 3: That is the advantage of opener. They're where they were

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Speaker 5: So I believe there's a similar situation up in north

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Speaker 3: Joining us on the line first is pearl farmer Josh Humbert.

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Speaker 3: He is the owner of Kamoka Pearl, which is located

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thank you for having me. It's exciting to

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Speaker 3: And we appreciate you waking up so early. Can you

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Speaker 7: So I'm actually speaking to you from my deck in

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Speaker 6: Uh and uh. I got bit by a shark last year.

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Speaker 6: So uh. Yeah, it's kind of the last the last

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, And so what what is your family's connection to

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Speaker 7: So we arrived down sailboat when I was two years old.

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Speaker 4: Mm, should pop back in.

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Speaker 3: I say, christ for it, gotcha?

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Speaker 6: Basically, sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: We're about two hundred miles north of Tahiti.

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Speaker 7: And uh, yeah, there we are. Cool, Okay, cool, you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's very remote.

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Speaker 7: We're thirty five hundred miles from uh from the west coast.

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Speaker 7: Actually sailed there last year with my dad and uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: So you're you're in the pearl farming business. Can you

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Speaker 7: So basically, you you have to collect your your oyster

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Speaker 7: The the oysters grow up basically and to a certain

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Speaker 6: To the harvest. Wow, that's what you see there. So

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Speaker 7: It's it's a kind of a labor of love. It's

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Speaker 6: But yeah, we we love it.

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Speaker 3: So who are your primary buyers? Are you selling to

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Speaker 6: Well to people all around the world.

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Speaker 6: Send stuff too.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean the primary market would be the US,

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Speaker 7: but that's probably because you know, we we focus a

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, I imagine that there's a sort of a romantic

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Speaker 7: The probably our biggest challenge would be just keeping our

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Speaker 7: Like they have so much integrity, like this way, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I thought I saw a wrist rocket. What are we

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Speaker 6: What is happening?

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Speaker 7: There's there's roosters around, and I keep I keep some

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Speaker 3: You might be the only man in the world that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for those listening, Josh just loaded a sling shot

438
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: and shot it during the interview at a rooster who

439
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: was encroaching on his audio.

440
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: Good on you, Josh, so yeah, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

441
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 6: No.

442
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 7: I was just saying that there's too many of them

443
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 7: around and we need to do a little rooster call

444
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 7: and have some cocal event.

445
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys are oh, yeah, except not.

446
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, so so as far as like protecting your oysters,

447
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: are you guys doing a lot of diving and and

448
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: and fishing or spearfishing. I mean, what's the what's that

449
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: look like?

450
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 6: So we we do do a lot of spearfishing.

451
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 7: That's basically how we feed ourselves. We you know, it's

452
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 7: it's remote and and we do get stuff on a

453
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 7: like a weekly or or every other week supply ship.

454
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 7: But we definitely we like to eat fish. You know,

455
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 7: we're we're a meat eaters, more fish than uh than

456
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 7: than land meat. But but yeah, we fished literally every

457
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 7: every single day. And yeah, we we we we uh

458
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 7: we usually go spearfishing. That that's kind of our our

459
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 7: go to and it's generally pretty safe. Like I said,

460
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 7: I got I got a bit last November, which I

461
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 7: don't recommend.

462
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. Was that Was

463
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: that a spear fishing encounter?

464
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I was.

465
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 7: Uh, I was spearfishing the friends and uh the shark

466
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 7: came straight up on me and grabbed my my uh

467
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 7: my my calf and kind of like pulled me down

468
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 7: and I got uh. So we we we put which

469
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 7: we put two turn kits on it, but we put

470
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 7: the turn kets right on the peronnial nerve, which I

471
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 7: don't know if your audience knows not, but that that's

472
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 7: the big nerve that services your whole or leg and

473
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 7: it's one of the few places where you're not supposed

474
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 7: to put a tournique and uh and so my my

475
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 7: whole lower leg was offline for for about three months.

476
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I.

477
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 7: Wasn't sure if if I'd walk again. It was it

478
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 7: was all pretty uh, pretty scary. But I'm walking now

479
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 7: and I'm pretty good for the most part. I'm back

480
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 7: at about ninety percent. But but yeah, I sorted. I

481
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 7: did not mean to get derailed. We're talking about pearls. Yeah,

482
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 7: so it's just I mean, that's a spear vision. It's

483
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 7: part of our life and uh and it's it's what

484
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 7: we do. It's it's how we we we feed ourselves.

485
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 7: But as far as the oysters, they they they need

486
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 7: to be kept safe from the from the trigger fish,

487
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 7: from the the the the sea turtles and and the

488
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 7: big big leopard rays. And we do that by keeping

489
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 7: them in in uh in baskets. And we we've actually

490
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 7: had some really interesting developments with that h recently. So

491
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 7: for for years now, we we take our our fish

492
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 7: to to shallow water where where there's a sorry, we

493
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 7: take our oysters to shallow water where there's lots of fish,

494
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 7: and and the fish come around and clean clean all

495
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 7: the all the stuff that grows on them, And uh,

496
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 7: that's really cool because that's basically like it's it's a

497
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 7: it's a way to get the oysters clean and it's

498
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 7: also a way to support our local ecology. We've been

499
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 7: doing that for for thirty years now, and there's more fish,

500
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 7: more more life in our area than than anywhere in

501
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 7: the whole the whole appol and so that that's been

502
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 7: a real source of pride for us, just to see that,

503
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 7: like our work can actually be regenerative to the the

504
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 7: lagoon and ecology. But recently we've kind of taken that

505
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 7: to another level where we we keep our oysters in

506
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 7: zones that are relatively shallow and the.

507
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 6: We what we what everyone does, they close the basket

508
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 6: so that so the figger fists can't get in and

509
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 6: pull the oysters out. But what what we did.

510
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 7: We kind of kind of took a risk on it

511
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 7: about a year ago and we started opening the baskets

512
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 7: and just like attaching the first the first oyster was

513
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 7: a little bit deeper down in the basket and the

514
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 7: thinking is that if there was a little bit deeper down,

515
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 7: theer fists can be able to pull them out and

516
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 7: and and it worked. And so it's basically like cut

517
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 7: our our labor by about.

518
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 6: Fifty percent, which is a lot, you know significant.

519
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of your audience are farmers,

520
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 7: and I'm sure they could they could really appreciate what

521
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 7: that means. And it also increased our our productivity basically

522
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 7: the rate at which the oysters grow by about thirty percent,

523
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 7: which is massive. And so anyway, yeah, it's it's really exciting.

524
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 7: And we basically consider all this stuff open source, like

525
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 7: we we want other people to be doing this, like

526
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 7: we're you know, we we communicate on it through our

527
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 7: channel Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube.

528
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 6: And the whole you know.

529
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 7: The best thing that we can do is share what

530
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 7: we're doing with other people and the hope that that

531
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 7: other farmers do it too, because the more the more

532
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 7: farmers do this, the more the the doing ecology will prosper. Basically,

533
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 7: the the number one fish that that cleans our oysters

534
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 7: are parrotfish, and and so by supporting the parrotfish, you're

535
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 7: actually supporting, uh, the coral as well.

536
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 6: What parentfish do is they they.

537
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 7: Go around and they graze on I mean they you know,

538
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 7: they eat different things. But one thing that they do

539
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 7: is they they graze on on on the the algae

540
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 7: that grows on dead coral. So what that does is

541
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 7: that it enables the coral to keep growing. If if

542
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 7: the coral gets calinized by algae, it can't it can't,

543
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 7: it can't grow. So when the pearfish come by and

544
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 7: clean it up, then the the coral prosperous. Basically by

545
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 7: supporting the Yeah, by supporting the parfish, we're supporting the reef,

546
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 7: and the reef supports this whole other you know, there's

547
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 7: all these other downstream effects from it.

548
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 6: And basically like basically figured this out.

549
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 7: Like like I like to think in terms of permaculture,

550
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 7: you know that the first ten of permaculture is that

551
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 7: before you do anything, you you observe, you know, you watch,

552
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 7: and I just I had this moment years ago when

553
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 7: we were you know a lot of years ago. I've

554
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 7: been doing this for yeah, thirty thirty some years now,

555
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 7: but I had this moment where we were we brought

556
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 7: a bunch of oysters in, Uh, they were dirty to

557
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 7: the farm to the temporary platform that's there, and we're

558
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 7: you know, we hung all the way to in the morning,

559
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 7: and then throughout the morning we went through them and

560
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 7: cleaned them and and uh, you know.

561
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 6: It's really it's really labor intensive.

562
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 7: You're you're scraping all this stuff off the oyster and

563
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 7: you got like like stuff splattering in your face and

564
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 7: stuff some of the beaches and things, and it's.

565
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 6: Just it's it's not it's not fun work at all.

566
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

567
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 7: And and then at noon, like we you know, we

568
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 7: stopped for lunch, and then we went back out and

569
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 7: we started working again.

570
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 6: And I went to go get.

571
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 7: A string and I pulled it out of the water,

572
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 7: and I'm like it's clean, you know, like and it

573
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 7: was something that that we'd noticed before.

574
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 6: But I just had this this epiphany that's like this.

575
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 7: Real the classic aha moment where I was like, wait

576
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 7: a minute, what are we doing, Like why are we

577
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 7: scraping these oysters when the fish are there and they're

578
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 7: they're ready and willing to do this work for us.

579
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 6: And so from then on we just kind.

580
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 7: Of went all in with with the whole concept of

581
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 7: fish cleaning, and we built out all these all these

582
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 7: structures underwater in shallow zones where there's lots of fish

583
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 7: that were like kind of like big like spider webs,

584
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 7: and we'd hang all the baskets from from from those

585
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 7: platforms and the fish would come around and and uh

586
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 7: and and clean them all up, and then we take

587
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 7: them back out to the.

588
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 6: Line like a couple of days later.

589
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Cool stuff.

590
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 7: And then so now like we basically like took that

591
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 7: idea and then and then went further with it by

592
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 7: opening the baskets. And it sounds so stupid, like, oh,

593
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 7: just opened the baskets, but you know, like when when

594
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 7: you lose so much money from the from the predation

595
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 7: of the fish, you get really kind of shy of

596
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 7: of doing.

597
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 6: Things like that.

598
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 7: So sure, that's what we've been doing, and it's been

599
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 7: working really well, and I don't know, hopefully I'm not

600
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 7: I'm not not talking too much.

601
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: No, it's great, Josh. You mentioned earlier that you run

602
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: an Instagram and you do some some communication and outreach.

603
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: If folks want to learn more about Komocha Pearl and

604
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: your work, where can they find you?

605
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 6: Just Kumoka Pearl.

606
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 7: We're on all all socials and yeah, just look us

607
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 7: up anywhere. We my son and I monitor all the

608
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 7: all the socials. He does most of the posting and

609
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 7: I answer the comments and respond to questions and stuff,

610
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 7: and so.

611
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 6: We're you know, we're there.

612
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 7: We're very easy to find and so if people reach

613
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 7: out to us, most of the time we'll be able

614
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 7: to respond, unless we're in a place where we can't

615
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 7: do that, or like sometimes we have stuff that goes

616
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 7: viral and we just get inundated.

617
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys know what that's life.

618
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: Sure well, Josh, thank you for waking up early again

619
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: I know it's early there and joining us on the

620
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: show and sharing with folks about your world. We appreciate it.

621
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: Great to meet you.

622
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: Thanks, Josh.

623
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 6: Awesome. Nice to you guys. Thank you very much.

624
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no, what was that?

625
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: That's how you say goodbye?

626
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: And to Heshian?

627
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: Did you know that? Or do you google it?

628
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 5: I had time to google it.

629
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: It's a great contribution to the show, Corey.

630
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

631
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: I'm glad you thought of doing sharp Corey. I want

632
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: some of those those pearls around.

633
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: I just I want to see that. I just want

634
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: to see that place. Yeah, that sounds wild. It sounds beautiful.

635
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: All right. Next up, we have a rut report.

636
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: Hope we should be tail run Kim, It's already here.

637
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: Kenn's gonna tell you what should do.

638
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: Text you bye cause your weaping kids.

639
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: Goodbye. Don't decide to desert you. Here is Mark Kenyon

640
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: with your white tail update for this weekend. Take it away, Phil.

641
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, Mark Kenyon here with Wired to Hunt, and

642
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 8: I'm coming at you with another one of our rut

643
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 8: reports here for October twenty third, and I'm reporting from

644
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 8: the windy, blustery and uh quickly cooling cornfields of southern Michigan.

645
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 8: What I'm experiencing here is something that many hunters across

646
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 8: the country are, which is this colt this moving across

647
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 8: the country. And that's good news for hunters because deer

648
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 8: are definitely on their feet. Getting a lot of reports

649
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 8: of even daylight activity from mature bucks right now. So

650
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 8: take advantage of this weather system if you can. I've

651
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 8: also been getting reports of a couple early doughs.

652
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: Coming into heat.

653
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 8: This is earlier than usual for most parts of the country.

654
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 8: I wouldn't expect that to be a trend, but it

655
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 8: is something to just keep an eye out. You know,

656
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 8: the rut is a bell curve, so there's a few

657
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 8: that are going to come into heat early, and then

658
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 8: most come in that mid November time period, and then

659
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 8: a few off in the back end too, so that's

660
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 8: all beginning to rise right now. Scraping activity is peaking

661
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 8: right now at this time of the year, so scrape's

662
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 8: gonna have more daylight activity than at almost any other

663
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 8: time of the year, So keep an eye on scrapes,

664
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 8: keep an eye out for that early dough that maybe

665
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 8: can get the bucks in your area really feeling ready,

666
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 8: and otherwise count on more daylight activity right now from

667
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 8: your local deer than maybe you've seen over the last

668
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 8: three weeks, but they will likely still be in their

669
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 8: home turf sticking relatively close to the patterns you've been

670
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 8: observing over the last few weeks. So it's a great

671
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 8: time to be in the woods. I wish you luck

672
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 8: and I will be back in two weeks for another

673
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 8: rut report.

674
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good camo pattern for that corn feme.

675
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh maybe that's walnut.

676
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: Either way, it looks good on your mind, Yeah, disappears.

677
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: Feeling inspired after Mark's little report there. I love this

678
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: time of year. Because it's like it is very good

679
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: hunting right now, but the best is still yet to come. Well,

680
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: so you've like got you've got weeks of really good

681
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: movement to look forward to you and it's like just

682
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: starting at this moment, that's just goosebumps just hearing you

683
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: say that. Yeah.

684
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

685
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: For the best up to date whitetail movement information, go

686
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: listen to Rot Fresh on the Wired Hunt podcast feed.

687
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: New episodes drop every week and have rot reports from

688
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: hunters across the country. Also, Mark is really excited about

689
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: his newest episode of Wired Hunt. That's episode nine to

690
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: six three, featuring a deep dive into the lessons of

691
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: Roger Rothar. Mark calls him the influencer of today's white

692
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: tail influencers. Again, that's episode nine to sixty three on

693
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: the Wired hant feed.

694
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 5: And let's not forget about white Tail e edu every

695
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: Wednesday on the meteor Clips channel.

696
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: Nice Mark and Tony make those.

697
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: Mark Tony and what's coming on.

698
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: They're answering all the white tail questions you didn't know

699
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: you had and the ones you do have. All Right,

700
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: our next segment is top threes.

701
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 9: We're just hitting all the drops back to back, good

702
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 9: camera work Phil as well.

703
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, we make do with what we

704
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: have in this room.

705
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 2: All right, this week we have all brought our own

706
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: top three lists. Corey, start us off. What are you

707
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: ranking today?

708
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: Okay?

709
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 5: I had a lot of help last evening with my

710
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 5: beautiful wife Sarah after a couple of glasses of wine.

711
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: So this one's for you, honey.

712
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 5: This is the top three hypocritical complaints hunters with families

713
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: make in the fall.

714
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's very specific.

715
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 5: Let's think about those honeydewes or stuff your spouse may

716
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 5: ask you to do in the fall. All the while,

717
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 5: all you're thinking about is hunting. Sure, so number three

718
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: fall decorations that might annoy the crap out of some

719
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: You know, some spouses might go a little over the

720
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: top with fall decorations, but hunters are awfully hypocritical about it,

721
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 5: because boy, they go decorate trees with stands and ladders

722
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 5: and trail cameras. Gearing yourself up for your fall hunting season.

723
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of the same.

724
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: I just punt on Halloween and Thanksgiving and then we

725
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: just go all in on Christmas. Oh that's an easy

726
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: compromise for us.

727
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: I just recommend living someplace where no one trick or

728
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: treats at your house.

729
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: That's so easy though, Yeah, you just turn on the lights,

730
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: put a bowl of candy, have three dogs. Oh oh,

731
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: that's probably why.

732
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: You've moved on. Yeah.

733
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 5: Well, Number two consumerism in the fall. So who else

734
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: rolls their eyes when they hear any excitement about pumpkin spice, lattes,

735
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 5: flannel pajamas, scarms, holiday har Hallmark TV shows. Okay, but

736
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 5: we as hunters are fed the same outdoor gear commercials,

737
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: and we all could admit we buy unnecessary gear all

738
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 5: the time.

739
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 2: We watched silly videos about eating bison bread stuff like that.

740
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: Just consumed.

741
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 5: And number one, which I do have a photo for

742
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: fall family photos. They might get up in the way.

743
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: But oh I was wondering how this one fit in

744
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: US as.

745
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: Hunters were out there with their gripp and grins with

746
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 5: the boys.

747
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like, uh you know, probably eighty percent

748
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: of my camera roll is just used up between October

749
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: and December.

750
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a photo of Spencer's awesome bowl elk they

751
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 5: shot last year opening Day rifle see and with good

752
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 5: buddies of his including myself.

753
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: In the back.

754
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, what a beautiful fall family portrait that way, it's right.

755
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: Imagine if it was you and your wife and kids there.

756
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: Imagine this is if it's for a boy band. Which

757
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 4: one of you would be the hot one and which

758
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: one of you would be the badass?

759
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh we're all the hot badass.

760
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: I think the one that's totally washed out by the

761
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: sun would be the one that got kicked out of

762
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 3: the band. It's like a bad airbrush job.

763
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: That's Ben. Sorry, Ben, I've been booted from the band.

764
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: Day boy. This was a deep This is a deep

765
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: sort of top three. Yeah, very sophisticated.

766
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: I like. I like when we are specific and niche

767
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: for things.

768
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 3: Thanks y'all.

769
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: Well done, Corey. All right, I am ranking the top

770
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: three worst state game agency logos. If you listen to

771
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: this show, you'll know that I did the three best

772
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: a few months ago. Now I am going to do

773
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: the three worst. There are eleven states who flat out

774
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: have not tried with their logo. It'd be one thing

775
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: if it was bad design, but it's not even that

776
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: because these logos just simply have no design. It actually

777
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: made me angry looking at these because the outdoors are

778
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: so beautiful and esthetic and inspiring and that should be

779
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: represented in these logos, but it's not. They just simply

780
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: have no personality at all. So let's see the list here.

781
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Number three. We start with number three, Phil.

782
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure because it's kind of

783
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: confusing because we usually when we have an order in

784
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: the slideshow, you label it one, two, three, But for

785
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: top threes you want to start with three.

786
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: Let's start with three.

787
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: Tell me the state and make sure a guy got

788
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: the right one.

789
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Number three is the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

790
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to clarify things. YEA, so angry? Was

791
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: that rude?

792
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Of Nope?

793
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: Nope, No, Wisconsin's logo is not only really bad, but

794
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: it's really weird. And it's not weird in a good way.

795
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: It's got black land with blue water clouds that don't

796
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: really make sense. Then it's got trees that are identical

797
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: to your mouse cursor, and within those trees there's a

798
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: giant red w which is the only thing that's even

799
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: remotely Wisconsin about this logo. Wisconsin has the sixth most anglers,

800
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: the fifth most hunters, and no one is more proud

801
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: of their big giant bucks. But you wouldn't know any

802
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: of that by looking at this dreadful logo. Uh, they

803
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: deserve something better than this, which when I looked at this,

804
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: it looks like a thumbnail for a Super Mario level.

805
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: To me, that's what I see.

806
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not at all reflective of the Midwestern

807
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: sensibility that I would expect from the Wisconsin DNR.

808
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: No.

809
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I feel like Wisconsin is

810
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 3: a state I so associate with some sort of traditional values,

811
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: you know, just the Aldo Leopold right, like what are

812
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: we doing here?

813
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? They just they have so much to work with

814
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: and they have used none of it. And the giant

815
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: red w that's like even more Mario adjacent. It looks

816
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: like a Warrio logo. To me, I just don't get

817
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: what Wisconsin was doing my game boy.

818
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, Mario, thank you all right.

819
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: Number two is the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks. Uh,

820
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: this logo looks like the designer waited until ten minutes

821
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: before the deadline to even start because they couldn't have

822
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: possibly put in any less effort. It's just text that

823
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: says Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks in Times New

824
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: Roman or something that looks like times New Roman. And

825
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: then they have some stars in their state motto. What's

826
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 2: that state motto?

827
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: Say? Phil Ad per aspera okay to the stars, from

828
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: the mud to the stars through hardships.

829
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: Very good, I think it can be.

830
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the literal Latin. And it's also the

831
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: tagline of pall Mall cigarettes.

832
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: Really you smoke those?

833
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: I've smoked a couple of pall Mall cigarettes, yes, And

834
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: I always was tickled when I looked at a pack

835
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: of pall Mall.

836
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: Take you to the Star?

837
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: That is great. Did it have the translation on the

838
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: pack or did it just have the the Latin?

839
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't remember, and English reads the same to me.

840
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: So that is some good barroom wisdom. You can drop it.

841
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: I can't believe I got to pull that one today.

842
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: Very nice. Now, Kansas is known for its bison and

843
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: white tails, its prairies. The world record flathead catfish was

844
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: caught there, but instead of showing any of that cool stuff,

845
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: they just have this sterile lay mass logo. Come on, Kansas.

846
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: Such a disappointment. And number one is the New York

847
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: Department of Environmental Conservation. New York has a roundel logo

848
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: which just means that it's a circle, like Target or

849
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: Pepsi or Starbucks. Usually roundel's have less personality to begin with.

850
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 2: But then New York's is just an absolute dud. It's

851
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: got flat blue water, green mountains, and then a white

852
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: sky that turns to a blue sky for some reason.

853
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: If you remove the words New York Department of Environmental

854
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: Conservation from this logo, you'd have no idea what it

855
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: is now. I don't even think you would know the

856
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: orientation of the logo if it's like supposed to be

857
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: upside down or sideways or what's going on.

858
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: Like a bouncy ball you get out of a vending machine.

859
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: There you go. That's just how ambiguous this is. New

860
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: York has the finger legs, all kinds of game animals,

861
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: plus they have the availability of all the aquatic creatures whales, sharks,

862
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: atlantic sturgeon, and they ignore all of that for this

863
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: sad depiction of nature. Shame on you, New York. You

864
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: have so much potential for a badass logo, but instead

865
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: you have the worst one in the country. And then

866
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of honorable mentions here, Phil, let's

867
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: pull those up. We have the Connecticut Department of Energy

868
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: and Environmental Protection. New logo is awful, and they even

869
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: did a redesign in twenty twenty two, and that's the

870
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: best they could come up with. Illinois just zero character.

871
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Looks like the logo for a publishing agency or maybe

872
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: an orange juice brand. I don't know, just really terrible stuff. Indiana,

873
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: their DNR logo is maybe the worst in the country.

874
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: They do have a brand specifically for the Fish and

875
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Wildlife Management that does have a logo of a fish

876
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: and a duck, but it still sucks. Iowa no personality.

877
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: I actually don't hate iowas I kind of like the

878
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: colors in the font, but it's still a bad, ugly logo.

879
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: Michigan bad logo. Also a weird choice to include three

880
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: great lakes in their logo Superior Michigan and hereon, even

881
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: though the state touches a fourth great lake, Lake Erie.

882
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 2: I'd be pissed if I was lake Erie.

883
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: You know what.

884
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: I think lake Erie is too good for Michigan. This

885
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: logo tells me that they don't appreciate it enough. So

886
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take lake Erie away from Michigan and give

887
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: it all to Ohio. They don't deserve it. They deserve

888
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: better because they can't even get shown in the logo

889
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: with the other three great lakes that touch the state.

890
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Then we have North Carolina and Texas. These logos are similar,

891
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: it's text only. Honestly, I don't hate them quite as

892
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: much as the others. They look out doorsy at least.

893
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: And then we have Minnesota terrible logo created twenty sixteen

894
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: as part of a statewide program slaman boring. But I

895
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: want to share this. I went to their Facebook page

896
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: to see what people were saying when the logo change happened,

897
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: because these groups always have to change their profile picture,

898
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: and when their profile picture change happened, there was only

899
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: one single comment on that photo. Please show it Phil.

900
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: It was Jeff Dale. He asked three years ago are

901
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: hot dogs legal to use for ice fishing? And sadly

902
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: nobody has responded to jet. So if you know the

903
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: answer for Jeff, please go to the Minnesota Department of

904
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Natural Resources facebook page, look at the posts from when

905
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: they changed their profile picture in twenty twenty one, and

906
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: let Jeff know if hot dogs are legal or not

907
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: for ice fishing. Those are the three worst logos, and

908
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: then eight honorable mentions. And here's here's like my suggestion

909
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: to these eleven states, hold a contest for a logo redesign.

910
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: You could be open to the general public. It could

911
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: be for an arts program at a college, it could

912
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: be a local school. States do this all the time

913
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: with flag redesigns. That's how Minnesota and Alaska have wound

914
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 2: up with two of the best state flags. You don't

915
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: have to be like Oklahoma and pay an agency one

916
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, which is what they did in twenty

917
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 2: twenty two. There are cheap, even free alternatives that could

918
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: fix this problem.

919
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: Wow suggestion. Did you ever read the column on page

920
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: two of ESPN dot com called uni watch.

921
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: I I read it a little bit. I had less

922
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: familiarity with that than when it became a Twitter account.

923
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: Because they have great tweets covering all of the uniforms

924
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: that happen in pro sports and amateur.

925
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: This is very reminiscent of uni watch.

926
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: I like looking at these things.

927
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: I like powerful emotions about something that I think it's

928
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: called People don't think.

929
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Twice vexology is studying flag design. I really enjoy that

930
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: as well, and I've always been disappointed that I've lived

931
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: in states that usually have really crappy flags like Montana's

932
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: is just the state seal, which unless if you're like

933
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: sixteen inches away from it, you have no idea what

934
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: you're looking at. So I love Montana if they would

935
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: fix that state flag. Yeah, all right, let's do our

936
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: next top three I think we are going to do

937
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: who Feiel next?

938
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's my turn, hil yep, yep again.

939
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: Well not not again, but I mean again, I'm bringing

940
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 4: something stupid and weird, but you know it's it's the

941
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: holiday season, the spooky Halloween season. I'm wearing I'm wearing

942
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: my jack lantern sweater. Corey got mad at me for

943
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: wearing it a week early.

944
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: Not mad.

945
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: So I decided to make my top three list of

946
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 4: horror villain horror movie villains I would want to go

947
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: hunting with. This is coming from someone who can count

948
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: the number of animals he's shot on one hand, but

949
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 4: I think I can still bring a lot to the table.

950
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: Gay, yes, thank you.

951
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: So the first one that we have here is Sam

952
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: from the from Trick or Treat Familiar Horror Anthology. Oh

953
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: he's big at spirit Hot Halloween pros of sam or

954
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: that he's small's small, Oh he's a child, you know,

955
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: I'd say like like three and a half four feet tall,

956
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: hard heart for wildlife the spot. He comes with Hunter's

957
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: orange already and a game bag, so he's prepared, Hans.

958
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: The scent control might be a little difficult with the weird,

959
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: fleshy pumpkinhead that's under his sack, which is not pictured here,

960
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: but it's it. I'm sure it smells terrible. Number two

961
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 4: we have Freddy Krueger pros. He brings his own set

962
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 4: of knives. Yes, cons he can only kill animals in

963
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 4: their dreams. Might be a problem, but it could be

964
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 4: an interesting, uh hunting trip, something new and new experience

965
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: for you. He may not be able to possess a

966
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 4: gun because of the whole child predator and serial killing. Yeah,

967
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 4: this one comes with an an asterisk though, because cocted

968
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: that's the thing he was. He was killed by a

969
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 4: vigilante mob before he was ever convicted, so there's no

970
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 4: legal record of him not being able like being being

971
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: you know, convicted of a crime.

972
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: And do both hands have the knives or is it

973
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: just one hand?

974
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 4: Spencer You've put me on the spot here I'm trying

975
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: to picture it, but I can't.

976
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm just like trying to logistically can draw

977
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: a bow back?

978
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: I just I just know my friend had a glove

979
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 3: that had the knives on it, and he only had one.

980
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: Wasn't a set? That might have just been because he

981
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: lost it.

982
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 4: No, it's just one hand.

983
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: Figure it out.

984
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 4: Then yep. Okay, number one, that's number.

985
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: Of time pulling a bow back.

986
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 4: Number one, We've got the blair Witch. The blair Witch

987
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 4: is not pictured here. That is one of her victims

988
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: in Time Out pros. She remains completely unseen. She's never

989
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: been seen. She's very familiar with the Maryland Woods specifically,

990
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: so this kind of you know, you're limited to a

991
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: one geographical area, but I think you can make a

992
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: lot out of it. Another pro leaves crafts hanging from

993
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: tree so you won't get lost. There's another asterisk here

994
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 4: that didn't really help the the kids that were in

995
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: the film, they got very lost. But I think that's

996
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: that's because she was being antagonistic towards them. I think

997
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: if she were aligned, we had similar goals of trying

998
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 4: to get a deer. I think it could help. Another

999
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 4: pro has her own cabin.

1000
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: Yep, that's true.

1001
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: It's out there in the woods already. Con makes you

1002
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 4: face the wall while she does all the processing. Another

1003
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: asterisk here, maybe, I mean that's she's kind. She's doing

1004
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: all the work, but you know, you kind of want

1005
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: to help out, like she invited you along. She helped

1006
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 4: you get the deer?

1007
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 8: Phil.

1008
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: How old are you when that movie came out?

1009
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 4: That was ninety nine? I believe so I was eight.

1010
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: Was that impaired on you? Or was it not on you?

1011
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: I didn't see it until college?

1012
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: Now, how about you, Rand? How old were you in

1013
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine?

1014
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 3: Ninety nine? I was thirteen years old.

1015
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: Did you watch The Blair Witch Project?

1016
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: Not until later? And it's a movie. It's a movie

1017
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: that I forgot about for decades and then it popped

1018
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: onto my mental bradar again a couple years ago, and

1019
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: and I just thought, what a weird thing that was.

1020
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: But it like kind of crushed it.

1021
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: It was very culturally like people people didn't know if

1022
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 3: it was real.

1023
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they marketed that way. They shot up for

1024
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: like twelve thousand bucks and it made tens of millions

1025
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 4: of the bucks I have. They do have some some

1026
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: honorable mentions. I was going to say, we've got there's obviously,

1027
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: we've got leather face, just sheer enthusiasm from that guy,

1028
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 4: and he might you know, he's he's got a lot

1029
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 4: of experienced skinning. Edward Cullen from a horror movie. Not

1030
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: a villain either, but a vampire who is who hunts,

1031
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 4: who kills deer and sucks deer blood, but doesn't because

1032
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: he's trying. He doesn't want to kill humans.

1033
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: Doesn't the werewolf guy in that one, the you know,

1034
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 3: the the yeah Jacob, Yeah, doesn't he kill a deer

1035
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: in that Actually.

1036
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: I've only seen the films once, Like I don't recall.

1037
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: To watch them.

1038
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: They move incredibly fast. Oh, they're very blinking.

1039
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, their skins kind of sparkly, which might be a problem.

1040
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: Fast like my top three.

1041
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 4: And then we've got we've got Hannibal Lecter, probably not

1042
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: much of a hunter, but we've seen Anthony hopkins skills

1043
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 4: in the edge and so if he can, if any

1044
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 4: of those transfer over to any of his other characters.

1045
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: We've seen how how quickly he can skin out of

1046
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: animals at a bear.

1047
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: He's a great cook too, that's a thing he'll be able.

1048
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: To pair your gay meat with the perfect wine. Anyway,

1049
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: those that's my top three in honorable mentions.

1050
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: Very good, fantastic, he likes that tiger meat. There you go,

1051
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 2: it's raw. All right, We have our last time. Three

1052
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: is from Randall. Randall, take it away.

1053
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to do a top three at

1054
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 3: top threes with my top three ideas for top three.

1055
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: For a peak behind the curtain. Randall was working on

1056
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 2: this at eleven or excuse me, ten fifty five Callahan code.

1057
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: Yep. I'm going to go with my top three things

1058
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 3: to eat after I get out of the elk woods. Yeah,

1059
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 3: the way home. Number three, and it could be higher

1060
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: except for one complication. Number three is chicken wings because

1061
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: you can eat as many as you want and not

1062
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: feel bad about it, and it's just a gluttonous experience.

1063
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: The catch is that you eat them with your hands,

1064
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: so if you've been successful hunting, you know, even even

1065
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: one wash after you cut up an elk, one hand

1066
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: wash isn't sufficient, so you really it's it's only for

1067
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 3: the sort of consolation post hunt meal. Unsuccessful huh yeah,

1068
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: but just a great just a great food. You can

1069
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: sit there at the bar watch the game you know,

1070
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: and typically the spice encouraged you to hydrate or im vibe.

1071
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Can I guess one of your next two that you're

1072
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: going to say?

1073
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: Sure?

1074
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: Is it going to be a taco bell like a crunch? Okay,

1075
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: well you didn't have to say, I was right, go ahead.

1076
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: Sorry, I thought you were going to make a funny guess,

1077
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: not like poking holes in my battleship. Number two is

1078
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: a burger and a beer, just at a bar roadside tavern,

1079
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: preferably not a chain, although you can get a nice

1080
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: burger at chilies.

1081
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 2: You When have you ever walked into a Chili's after

1082
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 2: a hunt? Never?

1083
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: You're poking holes in all my.

1084
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry, I did we did eat.

1085
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: I did eat at the Buffalo Wild Wings in Great

1086
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: Falls three times in a row during the hunt, three

1087
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: nights in a row. The guy was sweet.

1088
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: Were they like the usual by the time you came in?

1089
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, the guy the guy was he wasn't from

1090
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: Great Falls, but he used to at a Buffalo Wild Wings,

1091
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: New Jersey, and I was asking what happened to the

1092
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: buffalo chips and cheese, and he was so pissed, But

1093
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: then he sold us on a couple of menu items

1094
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: that we hadn't tried yet.

1095
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: What what what sauces do you get?

1096
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: I typically just go for hot buffalo if I'm in

1097
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: a if I'm in a sort of feeling bad about

1098
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: my self moods, it's typically like a be a honey barbecue.

1099
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know this could be emotion.

1100
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 4: De Gordon is asking for your your preferred flat to

1101
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 4: drummy ratio. And yes they use the term drummy fitty

1102
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 4: fitty perfect.

1103
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: I would take all drummis all flats.

1104
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like I like the flats. I like to

1105
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: turn my flat. There's more work. And number one is

1106
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: Taco Bell.

1107
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: Who could have seen that coming?

1108
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: Taco Bell is great because it comes to you quickly. Uh,

1109
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 3: there's one right by my house on the way back

1110
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: from my elk hunting spots. You can order in volume

1111
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: without feeling guilty or breaking the bank. And typically when

1112
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: I'm out in the woods, I'm sweating a lot. And

1113
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: there's nothing better to put in your body when you're

1114
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: sweating than mountain dew. Mountain dew in the original flavor

1115
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: or Baja blast, is one of nature's finest revitalizing substances.

1116
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: And you know, I've I've developed a pretty serious habit

1117
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: back in my deck staining days. You know, you get

1118
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: a big sixty four ounce from the convenience store, sixty

1119
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 3: four ounce mountain dew on tap, big gulps. Oh yeah,

1120
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: big gulps. But uh, I don't They don't call them

1121
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: that at Speedway. But yeah, Taco Bell is just you

1122
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: can't go wrong. I typically would order a crunt trap

1123
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: or two, a couple of soft tacos, and then maybe

1124
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: like one of the value burritos.

1125
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: Okay, Randal we talked to. It's not like the show

1126
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 4: is going long or anything. But Randall, we talked about

1127
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 4: this briefly in Nashville of mountain dew VARIETYLS.

1128
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, could you do a sub.

1129
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: Top three of mountain des I bet.

1130
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: Randall is not a pearist. I would bet he's goes

1131
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: the other the spectrum and he's like making mountain dew suicides.

1132
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 3: No, no, I am, I am a purist. Oh wow,

1133
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: I think the original, the original, the original mixture is

1134
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: the only mountain dew one should drink unless you're at

1135
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: a Taco Bell to get Baja blast. And really the

1136
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: only one that I can speak to is Code Red. Yeah,

1137
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: but Phil is actually quite a connoisseur.

1138
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, back back in high school, I drank. I drank

1139
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: too much Mountain de Do. I've had to quit soda

1140
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: cold turkey because it was such a problem.

1141
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: When did that happen?

1142
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

1143
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 4: In college? Yeah, I would say, uh, baja blast number one,

1144
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 4: original number two, number three Mountain Dew game fuel, which

1145
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 4: was the license tie into Halo three. When that came

1146
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: back back in like two thousand and nine or something,

1147
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: whenever Halo freaking out two and seven, they stopped making it.

1148
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: They tried to turn it into an energy drink. It

1149
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: tasted like ass, and then they remade it with the

1150
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: original formula. It is just a normal soda a few

1151
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: years ago, but just as kind of like a limited

1152
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: release thing. And I bought. I bought a lot, and

1153
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: I relapsed for a week.

1154
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: Oh but now, when did that happen?

1155
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: A year or two ago? Okay, but it's like a

1156
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: cherry citrus flavor. Very good.

1157
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: I saw that swamp donkey. You wanted to know Top

1158
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: three embarrassing hunting mistakes, and I will point out that

1159
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 3: one of my other top threes was most embarrassing moments

1160
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: in my fishing guide career. So we'll save that one

1161
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: other day.

1162
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: My correct guess of your taco bell order was based

1163
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 2: on Randall and I had to host a company event

1164
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: a few years ago where we had to make a

1165
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: game for folks attending, and it was all guessing based

1166
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: You look at this elkt shed and you guess it's score.

1167
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: You'd lift this cooler and guess its weight. One of

1168
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: them was we had you guess the calories of these

1169
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: three things. One of them was like two s'mores. One

1170
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: of the things you had to guess the calaries for

1171
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 2: was Randall's post hunt meal. And I told Randall, I said,

1172
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: rand to really use your imagination here. What would you

1173
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: have after a hunt? And he selected too two tall

1174
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: Boy Coors banquets and I think a grunch wrap supreme

1175
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: with a couple packets of hot sauce. Yeah, that was Randall.

1176
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: Guilty is charged, guiltiest charged. But I will point out

1177
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 3: that there were backup crunch trap supremes in the fridge

1178
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: and I expensed them all and I took them all home.

1179
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 4: We've got people in the live chat sharing Mary talk

1180
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: about orders with us.

1181
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: It's the best.

1182
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: This is the best time I've ever had running this show.

1183
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: Good because we're running late.

1184
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: All right, we are going to wrap it up now

1185
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: with our final interview of the day. Joining us on

1186
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: the line next is Michael Burton. Michael has developed the

1187
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: most unique way in the country of finding new fishing spots. Michael,

1188
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1189
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 4: Hello.

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00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: Michael has gained hundreds of thousands of social media followers

1191
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: for his approach to getting people to tell him about

1192
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: their secret honey holes. Michael explain to folks what you do?

1193
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: So I make I make videos primarily on TikTok. Now

1194
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: I used to make them on Instagram, and by far

1195
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: my most successful series is catfishing people stealing their fishing

1196
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: spots and then ranking their fishing spots to see how

1197
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: well it does compare to the other spots I've stolen

1198
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: from people.

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01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great content. It is what got you on

1200
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: my radar. Why we're talking to you today. So the

1201
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: fake account that you have are those pictures of a

1202
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: girl you know? Or is this just a stranger?

1203
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: So those are all real pictures of my girlfriend Brooke.

1204
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: Oh and yeah, I use this as kind of the

1205
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: introduction to the series, but whenever I make a new account,

1206
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: it is pretty much the same pictures. It is always

1207
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: the name B with the B emoji. And if you

1208
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: see somebody else asking for fishing spots, they probably are

1209
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: a catfish. But it's not gonna be me. I know

1210
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: there's lots of other people doing this now.

1211
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So in your bio, I noticed it said some

1212
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: stuff like what I enjoy doing fishing a goal of mine,

1213
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: my first steelhead. That is how Michael gets these guys

1214
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: to tell them his spots. Now, are you portraying someone

1215
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: who really loves fishing or someone who's new to fishing,

1216
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: someone who wants to go on a fishing day, like,

1217
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: tell us about this character you've created.

1218
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: So essentially, I try to make it as obvious as

1219
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: possible that I am who I am, especially to people

1220
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: who have seen the content before. And then when people

1221
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: match with me, I don't like string them along or

1222
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: get them invested in me as a person. I feel

1223
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: that's a little bit mean. Oh I just straight up

1224
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: ask them, like, tell me where you caught this fish

1225
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: fishing spots now? For whatever reason, that works really well

1226
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: for guys.

1227
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: Oh okay, some desperate men out there holding fish on

1228
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: dating apps for the locations guys give you, how often

1229
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: are they actual secret spots versus just community holes that

1230
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: everybody knows about.

1231
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: They're almost always community holes. Especially in the beginning when

1232
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't famous for this, I get a lot of

1233
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: people who clearly just googled fishing spots near Bend. And

1234
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: because of that, if you look at the early content,

1235
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like sea tier spots. As I

1236
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: got a little bit better at catfishing, people people would

1237
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: occasionally give me like less well known spots, but again

1238
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: it's spots you could easily find on Google. It's very rare.

1239
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: I get a suggestion that's like an actually good suggestion

1240
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: that I haven't known about prior.

1241
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so tell us about some of the highlights, the

1242
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: best days of fishing you've had thanks to Hinge.

1243
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 4: Awesome.

1244
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: So I like it when I match with a fan

1245
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: and they prank me, like they pretend to be somebody

1246
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: who is like falling for the scam and then they

1247
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: send me somewhere. So probably the funniest prank spot I've

1248
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: been sent to is it looks like it's this lake

1249
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: that's going to be super good on Google Earth. You know,

1250
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: it's off Elk Lake. It's nice and secluded, but it's

1251
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: where the cramarants, nest or cormorants. I read how you

1252
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: pronounce it. There's no fish in the lake like at all? Yeah,

1253
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: that spot exactly so, because there's like literally hundreds of

1254
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: fishing birds, there's absolutely no fish. There's squawking the whole

1255
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: time and yelling and just pooping in the water. It's

1256
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting. So I brought my brother thinking it would

1257
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: be like a fire secret spot, and no, we just

1258
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: got pranked hard.

1259
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: Oh okay, what about like real good days of fishing

1260
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: though that you've had. What about some like highlights that

1261
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: you've had.

1262
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the best spot I've been recommended was also

1263
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: a prank. Somebody found these giant cliffs along the Dishoots

1264
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: River where there's just like no way to get down,

1265
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: and they said, oh, this is the spot, and I'm

1266
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: a rock climber, so I'm like, okay, giant cliffs, let's go.

1267
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: So I get down to the river and I caught

1268
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: close to thirty fish in an hour because nobody has

1269
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: been there before. And that's actually now like my go

1270
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: to spot. Whenever I want brown trout, I'll just stop

1271
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: at that specific spot on the way home, throw on

1272
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: a rainbow rappola, catch like five brown trout that are

1273
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: keeper size, and then just climb back out and have dinner.

1274
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: Wonderful. How about low lights? Besides the Cormorant Lake, where

1275
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: have you wound up where the fishing was just dreadful?

1276
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: There's actually been a lot of spots I've been to,

1277
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,959
Speaker 1: especially on the coast, where I'm not familiar with, where

1278
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: it looks really good on Google, and then you get

1279
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: there and it's just Kelp, like Kelp all around. You

1280
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: can't throw a high low rig anywhere because it's just

1281
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: gonna get stuck. You can't use a jig because it's

1282
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: just gonna get stuck. And like, whenever I get to

1283
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: these spots, I know like I've been got and I

1284
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: just wasted a couple hours of driving, and then I'll

1285
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: try to find a nearby spot so I can actually

1286
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: make a video. Those spots tend not to make it

1287
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: into the series because I don't want to post a

1288
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: video where it's just like, yeah, I got screwed over

1289
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: by Kelp for two hours straight.

1290
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: I notice in all your videos you say that you

1291
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: use Hinge. Why Hinge over the other dating apps like

1292
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: Tinder or bumble?

1293
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: Yes, so hinge has the benefit where people can match

1294
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: with you and send you a message, and as the girl,

1295
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: you can read the message. So the vast majority of

1296
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: matches I get with people are not fishermen. They're just

1297
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: random people. They like, hey, no one's jacket, or they'll

1298
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: just send you a life with no context. And if

1299
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I had to sift through all of those matches, it

1300
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: would be borderline impossible. I would also have to swipe

1301
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: right on pretty much everybody, which would be a big

1302
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: red flag in the system, and it'd get banned a

1303
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: lot faster. Like I still get banned all the time.

1304
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: But I assume if I was on the ender, just

1305
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: like mashing right with every single person, my accounts would

1306
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: only last.

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 6: Like a day or two.

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01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of strategy. I didn't suspect there. Now

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: you've done this experiment in Oregon and Hawaii. How did

1310
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: men in those two states differ when it comes to

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: telling you about fishing spots?

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01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: In Hawaii, I didn't really get any good fishing spots.

1313
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because at that point my

1314
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: series had, like not to brag, but like millions of

1315
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: views and people just knew about me. But people would

1316
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: just tell me to go to like this same exact

1317
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: spot on Waikiki, which is where all the tourists hang

1318
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 1: out m M, and then in or again I would

1319
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: get I assume quite a few real suggestions of like

1320
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: actual fishing spots.

1321
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: Okay, now by this point you have seen thousands of

1322
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: dating profiles of guys. Tell us about some of the

1323
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: trends you've noticed with fishing pictures on dating apps.

1324
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: Uh, everybody has the same pose with the fish where

1325
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: they hold it out slightly in front of them and

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: they're smiling behind it. I don't know if that's a

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01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: good strategy or a bad strategy. But I've also seen

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01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: like some really creative pictures of people posing with fish.

1329
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: And again I'm not a girl. I can't say like

1330
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: what is sexier or more attractive or what works better.

1331
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: But those people who like you know, are standing somewhere

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01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: cool with the fish. It like a fish in their hand,

1333
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: and you can see the fish relative to the person's

1334
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: box and they're smiling like you know. To me, that

1335
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: is like, oh, this person actually knows where to fish.

1336
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: Let me go match with them.

1337
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: And see if I can get that spot. How has

1338
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: the catfishing been today? Have you been on Hinge yet

1339
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: this morning?

1340
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm currently between accounts. The last time I made account,

1341
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: it was almost entirely fans of the show trying to

1342
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: prank me. So I don't know if I have to

1343
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: retire the series or just keep it going as like

1344
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: an inside joke. I still have a list of approximately

1345
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty spots wow, catfish, Fryer that I

1346
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: need to get through so I can at least keep

1347
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: the series going for another year or two. But I

1348
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: am looking at like, you know, alternative like heel content

1349
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: where I'm slightly the bad guy, but I'm not being

1350
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: mean to anybody, and you know, again focused on like

1351
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: fishing and outdoorsy stuff.

1352
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 2: Wonderful. Okay, I'm very excited for season two. If people

1353
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: want to see your hinge catfishing and other fishing content,

1354
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: where should they go to do that?

1355
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: So I'm on TikTok only right now, I'm Central dot

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: orgon dot fishing. I would encourage people not to follow

1357
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: the account unless you actually like the content, because I

1358
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: have a very odd sense of humor. Really yeah, I'd

1359
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: rather have people who actually appreciate that sense of humor

1360
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: and like watch the whole videos as opposed to people

1361
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: who just follow me for support and then don't watch

1362
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: the videos and kind of ruin the algorithm.

1363
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: For me, it's very good stuff, Michael. I like watching

1364
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: your content. I think folks will enjoy seeing your videos.

1365
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: Very creative at it's very creative series.

1366
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us in. Good luck on the dating apps.

1367
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for having me by now.

1368
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: Hm, I'm speechless. I wonder how we would do another

1369
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: part of the country. I feel like Oregon. I don't know, Phil,

1370
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 2: you from that part.

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01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 3: Phil, you're used to catfishing people online.

1372
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: What do you say one of my favorite pastimes. I mean,

1373
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 4: Central Organs an incredible place, so it'd be plenty plenty

1374
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 4: of opportunities down there, I would guess. But again, I'm

1375
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 4: not not much much of a fisherman, so I couldn't

1376
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 4: speak of that.

1377
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like you do really well around here

1378
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 5: because nobody's from here. Everybody's already ruined their friend's spot.

1379
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 5: Everybody's always open to sharing all their hot spots.

1380
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: I'm surprised I didn't know about this because one of

1381
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 3: my favorite TV shows of all time was To Catch

1382
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: a Predator.

1383
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 4: I thought you're going to have a picture with Chris

1384
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 4: with Chris Hansen, really i'd him. He signed, he signed

1385
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 4: a book for me.

1386
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: Well was the occasion?

1387
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 4: Oh, I was my best friend was the ASP president

1388
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 4: and he was doing something with our schools. He was like,

1389
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 4: we had sort of a we would watch to Catch

1390
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 4: a Predator together. It's Chris Hansen's coming, I can get

1391
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 4: you in. So yeah, it was.

1392
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 6: It was good.

1393
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 4: I thought I got the pack of my cards that

1394
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 4: need to be.

1395
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: I thought, you're going to say your favorite show is

1396
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: Was it Catfish with Neat? Uh? What's the MTV show?

1397
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: There was Catfish, Cheaters, Cheaters, the old HBO I love

1398
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 2: the host of that show got stamped. I think, yeah,

1399
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: what a good tie in for this show. Wow, we

1400
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: did it all right. That brings us to the end

1401
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: of the episode. Phil, Let's get some feedback from the chat.

1402
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

1403
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 4: We found we've had a very active chat, but not

1404
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: a lot of questions. I think people are show but

1405
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,879
Speaker 4: like a very popular one has been gas cans. Spencer

1406
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 4: going to reveal the gas cans this week.

1407
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: Not this week, but it's coming. I'm still going through

1408
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 2: all the emails.

1409
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

1410
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: Very passionate folks wrote in about their favorite gas cans there.

1411
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: I think two that stand out above the rest. So

1412
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 2: I will get listeners that list very soon.

1413
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: I'll be waiting.

1414
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 4: Mike is wondering, Randall, have you ever read the book

1415
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: The Long Rifle Stewart Edward White.

1416
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 3: I don't think that I have, and I can't answer

1417
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 3: for Steve, but I'll check it out.

1418
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: Steve hasn't, no, Mike.

1419
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 3: Actually, one of my other top threes was gonna be

1420
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 3: best Books about shooting.

1421
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: Oh, very good.

1422
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 4: Mike also has another question that might be dumb. I

1423
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: don't know, because I don't know. I'm saying this about

1424
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 4: me because I'm I'm dumb, and I don't know if

1425
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 4: this is a good question or not. Why do I

1426
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 4: always see or what do I always see in the

1427
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: meat Eater videos on the gun muzzles to protect them,

1428
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 4: like a muzzle condom or electrical tape.

1429
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: Uh. Sometimes it's maybe literally a condom that folks will

1430
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: put on there. And what's that doing, Randall.

1431
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 3: It's keeping debris and moisture out of your barrel. I

1432
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 3: typically use electrical tape. But then I was reading I.

1433
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: Don't like where this is going. Well, I've always been

1434
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 2: to the impression that that does nothing for your ballistics.

1435
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, it doesn't. But if you're using a high

1436
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 3: volume suppressor, like a suppressor that that can catch a

1437
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: lot of gas, there is the potential for complications using

1438
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 3: the electrical tape method because your bullet, if enough gas

1439
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: goes into your suppressor by the time that bullet is

1440
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: at your muzzle, it could. But I don't know. But

1441
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 3: it's just got me second guessing myself a little bit.

1442
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 5: Well, if you have a suppressor, make sure you get

1443
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 5: the FHF suppressor cover you.

1444
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, it'll keep the debris out, that's right.

1445
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 4: Next, we have a question from Mogor. Explain to a

1446
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 4: European guy how long it takes you to get to work.

1447
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 4: Apparently Randall lives way out in the middle of nowhere

1448
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 4: to way out.

1449
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: Well, RD thirty eight minutes if things are good, Yeah,

1450
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 3: thirty eight. Well, because my truck knows where I'm going,

1451
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 3: so it tells me. So that's how I I usually

1452
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 3: like to leave forty five minutes early. Just a lot

1453
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: of that is cutting through Bozeman.

1454
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: We're approaching long commute season.

1455
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 3: Twenty four Yeah, twenty four miles on the interstate, but

1456
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 3: through a mountain pass. Yeah, through a mountain pass. But again,

1457
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: I am only I think three miles from a Taco

1458
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 3: bell maybe good.

1459
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: I think my commute is probably like eighteen minutes.

1460
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 5: What do you got, Corey, It takes about six minutes, Okay,

1461
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 5: I could ride a bike here.

1462
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: No, I'm very close.

1463
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: Phil, what's your commune like twenty twenty five depending, Yeah,

1464
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 4: thirty eight.

1465
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 3: I'm on the other side of the past. That just

1466
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 3: shows you how bad the infrastructure is here for motor

1467
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 3: vehicle traffic. Hmm.

1468
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 4: Our our producer who lives in Missoula, just said three hours.

1469
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. The average commute I just google it for Americans

1470
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: as of twenty twenty three is twenty seven minutes, which

1471
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: I feel like we've found close to that.

1472
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1473
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 4: Chad is asking any tips for handling game meat with

1474
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 4: trauma after being shot. I shot a buck in both

1475
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 4: front shoulders, had a decent amount of trauma on the

1476
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 4: insides of them.

1477
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: Cut it out, Chad, Yeah, getting rid of I know

1478
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 2: that there's a trick. Yeah, you don't want bloodshot meat

1479
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: with even if you're doing the thing lowest on the

1480
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: totem pole and like turning it into to ground meat.

1481
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,480
Speaker 2: Just keep that that bloodshots.

1482
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no secret secret sauce there.

1483
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 4: Phil, What is the process for how I pick a

1484
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 4: song to parody for a drop? There actually is a process.

1485
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 4: I will open up a Spotify play list, like based

1486
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 4: on a decade, so if I'm I kind of try to,

1487
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 4: you know, span from sixties through current stuff, so I

1488
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 4: also feel like a seventies song today, and then I'll

1489
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: go through I'll scroll through all the biggest hits from

1490
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 4: the seventies and then I'll be repeating the segment name

1491
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 4: in my mind while I'm reading the list to try

1492
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 4: to find, you know, some alliteration or rhyming or syllables

1493
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 4: that match. Sometimes it's easier, like like hot Hot to

1494
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: go for hot tips was obvious, but like doing Lose

1495
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 4: Yourself for fake News, that one was a stretch. But

1496
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 4: I was pretty proud of kind of making that work.

1497
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 4: That's very good stuff. But yeah, that's how Phil.

1498
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: Also, he doesn't want to go too obvious when we

1499
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: have when we do the let's talk about sex segment,

1500
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: I would have been very easy to do Saltan Peppa's No.

1501
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 4: I ended up using that song for sir a different segment,

1502
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 4: which yeah, yeah, it's been a guessing.

1503
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do two more, Phil, you got two more?

1504
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: Two more?

1505
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 4: Uh nah, Well it's there's another one for me. But

1506
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 4: that seems you Come on, we just counted specifically for

1507
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 4: this one man, because no one's going to know what

1508
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 4: the hell he's talking about. He's asking if I've played

1509
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 4: Our Creators, which is the new hotness in gaming right now. No, no,

1510
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 4: I'm not that it's a competitive sort of competitive multiplayer

1511
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 4: game when when I've I've retired from those. I'm too old,

1512
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 4: i have kids, i can't I can't do, and I've

1513
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 4: been I'm a lapsed PC gamer. I've had a good

1514
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 4: PC in years, so I'm I'm I strictly stick to

1515
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 4: to console gaming for the most Partner Spencer, the other

1516
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 4: Spencer was just at the met Eater flagship store and

1517
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 4: he just wanted to give a shout out for for

1518
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 4: for the for the crew there.

1519
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 3: Shout out to the store boys.

1520
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: We love the store boys, door boys. They have managed

1521
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: to just fill that place with college age fellas and

1522
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: they do a great job running it.

1523
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: Yes, whatever, I need someone to go drink a cold one.

1524
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 4: With, I'll do one that's for real, and we'll close out.

1525
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: Store manager Brayden says, moving from Iowa to southern Idaho,

1526
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 4: what versatile caliber rifle would you buy to hunt elk slash, deer,

1527
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 4: slash other large game if you would only pick.

1528
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: One, only pick one in Idaho with elk, deer and

1529
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: other large game. What do you got?

1530
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 3: Randall Um, I don't think you need to overthink this.

1531
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 3: My my question to you would be how experienced are

1532
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: you shooting center fire rifles? I think, uh, choosing the

1533
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 3: right bullet and knowing how that bullet performs and.

1534
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: Give him an answer.

1535
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: Creedmore, there we go.

1536
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: I think I would say a thirty odd six or

1537
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 2: two seventy if you recoil conscious, maybe a three to

1538
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 2: eight or a six five creed More Corey three hundred

1539
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,440
Speaker 2: win mag. Cory's go on the other end of the spectrum.

1540
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I shot everything with a three

1541
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 3: hundred win mag for a while. I said, nothing wrong

1542
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 3: with it.

1543
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 5: I just can't quit. Yeah, new hot cartridges are so

1544
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 5: lame to me.

1545
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: Okay, three all the way.

1546
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 2: He asked for one suggestion, I think we gave him five.

1547
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 2: Good good luck, Brandon. All Right, that's the end of

1548
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: this week's show. We'll be back here next week, same

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01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: time in place, by now