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Speaker 1: And this is s Midle Tamy crazy war.
Speaker 4: Yeah it.
Speaker 1: Now now I can't I couldn't wait to get this
Speaker 1: brother his flowers. Not only is he a rapper, now
Speaker 1: only is an archibal now now only even a reality
Speaker 1: star new podcast, our father soon to be husband. We
Speaker 1: heard you know what I mean? This man, this man
Speaker 1: got hits after hits. Someone's looking and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: I wanted to see him on versus this. We We're
Speaker 1: gonna give him his flowers today. In case you don't
Speaker 1: know who the fuck we're talking about. One holy mother.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of hit records, bro underrated, Yo, yo,
Speaker 1: did who would you want to battle in versus?
Speaker 4: I kept saying I wanted to battles your button.
Speaker 3: Sure, now that's uneven, that's uneven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it was.
Speaker 4: We had an issue on on Clubhouse.
Speaker 1: You got is a lot of people.
Speaker 4: It was on Clubhouse.
Speaker 3: It was it was a play issue, like like we
Speaker 3: was battling songs on Clubhouse. Remember we was on quarantine.
Speaker 3: We ain't had nothing to do with.
Speaker 4: It was back then. We were just having fun, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I'm playing my songs and then he kind of
Speaker 3: up up on me because I wasn't counting my songs.
Speaker 3: So I saved my my best for last. But I
Speaker 3: went over he was doing ten and in Wow. So
Speaker 3: I had a thing for like, Yo, listen, we're gonna
Speaker 3: do the real one, a real verse and Joe.
Speaker 1: But I don't think your body's gonna come out I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna come out of the house for that.
Speaker 1: That's what that's what got. So listen, let's get into
Speaker 1: the beginning, right because going through your records, uh, it
Speaker 1: said on I believe remember me that you wasn't rapping
Speaker 1: until you went to jail.
Speaker 4: So how does that happen? I never rapped, Broka, I
Speaker 4: never raped.
Speaker 3: I never had no aspirations, no dreams about being a
Speaker 3: rapper here as a kid. You know, we were growing
Speaker 3: up in a time. We fans a Big Daddy came
Speaker 3: Rock Cam and all that.
Speaker 4: We were from that era.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't sitting around like yo, I want to
Speaker 3: be a rapper. So when I went to prison, I
Speaker 3: was it didn't dawn on me right to ever start rapping.
Speaker 3: And you know, I was getting a lot of trouble
Speaker 3: all the time, always in the box, always having issues
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And I'm always having conflict with other young black men.
Speaker 1: So in the box that's when you started, right now,
Speaker 1: twenty three.
Speaker 4: Hours a day. At that time, I think I was
Speaker 4: doing a year.
Speaker 1: Are you straight?
Speaker 4: You're straight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're straight in the box right. And it was
Speaker 3: a Friday night. I heard niggas on the gate, you know, rapping.
Speaker 1: You know, niggas be on the gate.
Speaker 4: They was getting it in.
Speaker 3: One nigga's bigging on the balls. Another niggas rapping, and
Speaker 3: I was like laying on my bed like damn, this
Speaker 3: shit sounds crazy. And I said to myself, when I
Speaker 3: get up in the morning, I'm gonna write me around.
Speaker 4: And I wrote my first rhyme that Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: Remember your first round. It was some.
Speaker 3: It was it was some stressed out like I'm sitting
Speaker 3: in the cell, living in hell something to that. Definitely,
Speaker 3: it was heavily influenced by pop Definitely to me at
Speaker 3: that time, he was he was speaking that black male
Speaker 3: experience like no other.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, My first I was rapping before, right,
Speaker 1: But when I I it to Malcolm xIC ship and
Speaker 1: Malcolm X said, uh that he used to read with
Speaker 1: the light the cell like at the nighttime. I used
Speaker 1: to write Royn's but I used to never want people
Speaker 1: to know that, right, So you know, people used to
Speaker 1: come up myself and be like, what are you doing
Speaker 1: on the floor, like you know what I'm saying? Like
Speaker 1: I was like, and my first battle was against I know,
Speaker 1: just do hasty story every time I bring it up.
Speaker 1: We're in the yard and this guy named be Wise.
Speaker 1: He was names Wise and all of the Bronx dudes
Speaker 1: was with him, in order of the Brooklyn dudes were me.
Speaker 1: And because it was it was called be House. It's
Speaker 1: only Brooklyn and Bronx. Dude. I don't know how Queens
Speaker 1: Nigga was in there. I don't know why right, But
Speaker 1: in my first time I remember it, I was like,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't give a fuck. When I was six,
Speaker 1: I did a stick up in a Tonka truck and
Speaker 1: the whole yard went to crazy and there was that moment.
Speaker 1: From that moment, I was like, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I knew at that point. I knew that I knew I.
Speaker 1: Was addicted to the crowd, like like getting that attention.
Speaker 2: So when was when you got to remind us what
Speaker 2: your rap name was? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that was my rap name then that's
Speaker 1: my very first rap name. He did always laugh at
Speaker 1: my and see y'allho with the ball de berean.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 1: So when it was it? When was it? Because you
Speaker 1: know every you know everybody who write a rhyme and
Speaker 1: ye come a rapper? When was it? You was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna take the series. Wasn't
Speaker 1: in the can or wasn't.
Speaker 3: When you when I was in the cam when I
Speaker 3: first started doing it, you go understand, I'm stealing in
Speaker 3: the box, right, and I'm at that point, it was
Speaker 3: just like something to pass the time, right, you know,
Speaker 3: because what you're doing in the box, you're doing push ups,
Speaker 3: sit up, you're sleeping, you're writing a letter like you
Speaker 3: ain't doing much, you know, sleeping half the day. So
Speaker 3: I was like, if I get up and write a
Speaker 3: rhyme by the end of the day, like it's gonna
Speaker 3: it's gonna take some of the day away. So I
Speaker 3: started thinking about it, like, man, maybe I could go
Speaker 3: home and be a rapper, right, And then I was
Speaker 3: at the same time I would say that, I was like, hell, no,
Speaker 3: ain't no rapper. But I was so insecure about that
Speaker 3: because nobody, nobody knew me for that. You understand, people
Speaker 3: had already had their perception of who I was. I
Speaker 3: was a little popular back then, right, and now that
Speaker 3: I'm saying that I'm a rapper, and this is the
Speaker 3: time when nigga niggas like we ain't no rapper. Nigga
Speaker 3: like rappers want to.
Speaker 4: Be like us, you understand.
Speaker 3: So didn't I didn't build up that confidence into.
Speaker 4: Some years later because I was afraid.
Speaker 3: To tell people that that So if I was five, six,
Speaker 3: seven years and at this point, if a nigga would
Speaker 3: have asked me what I was doing when I came home,
Speaker 3: and I would have said, I'm gonna come home and
Speaker 3: be a rapper, and they would have said, nigga, what
Speaker 3: I would have never done it. Y'all have never met me,
Speaker 3: because that's how insecure I was about it. Because I
Speaker 3: would have anybody that respected me would have told me, man,
Speaker 3: you ain't no rapper. I would have said, you know what,
Speaker 3: You're right, I'm not fuck am I doing? So I
Speaker 3: kept it to myself. I kept to myself until I
Speaker 3: get that time nineteen twenty. I'm younger and I'm picking
Speaker 3: it up, you know. But I didn't think that this
Speaker 3: was a long shot. Niggas wasn't coming home becoming rappers.
Speaker 3: That wasn't a thing yet, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, So we're going through So how did you get
Speaker 1: how did you get that?
Speaker 5: For?
Speaker 1: Was it Atlantic Records?
Speaker 3: Your first My first major label deal was with Universal
Speaker 3: through through uh Motown Sylvia Loan Oh Wow Tone from
Speaker 3: track Master Soign. So I had the song rumors on
Speaker 3: if you remember, that was a song that put me
Speaker 3: in a game, right, That was that was my hit
Speaker 3: in that era because when I came out, I jumped
Speaker 3: into the DVD right, that was the mixtape DVD time right,
Speaker 3: and it was just like the mixtape was the thing
Speaker 3: because I was up North and I was like listening
Speaker 3: to everybody that was on the clues. I was hearing
Speaker 3: all y'all right, and I'm like, damn, if I could
Speaker 3: just make it to the clues, I'm lit I made
Speaker 3: it because I felt like everybody that was on a
Speaker 3: clue tape made it.
Speaker 4: Me too, Like I didn't didn't.
Speaker 1: He thought it's gotta be reached, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I when when I got out, I was just like,
Speaker 3: you know, jumping right into that, into that error right there,
Speaker 3: and that's that's kind of like how I kind of
Speaker 3: got it started right there.
Speaker 4: And then the universe was signing.
Speaker 1: First, Universal signing first. So how did you get to Atlantic?
Speaker 1: Was that through t I?
Speaker 4: No, I got dropped, Get I gotta dropped? Okay, yeah
Speaker 4: you gotta you know, you gotta go through it.
Speaker 3: But you got a bad go right, Yeah, they paid
Speaker 3: me out, paid the player.
Speaker 4: Okay, then.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It hurts your confidence. So I was I was I
Speaker 3: was around Kim, and Kim was, you know, opening up
Speaker 3: her doors for me. I was coming around, and you know,
Speaker 3: I was I was starting to, you know, get a
Speaker 3: real peak at what with what being a superstar artist is.
Speaker 3: And then I and I made the song Rumors I
Speaker 3: got signed the University. Now I'm thinking in that era,
Speaker 3: my my understanding of what the game is is like,
Speaker 3: once you get signed, the label just gonna make you
Speaker 3: this big star.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't know that. Nobody.
Speaker 3: Nobody came to me and said, listen, this is the
Speaker 3: time when you need to work even harder.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So I'm just like waiting for it to
Speaker 1: kick in.
Speaker 3: I'm like, where's one on six in PARP, Like where's
Speaker 3: the MCV, Like where's these big records? Like, and I'm
Speaker 3: sitting there away and I'm doing I'm still doing me.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that I had the mind state
Speaker 3: to understand that I was. I should have been working
Speaker 3: working harder, even harder. And one day my lawyer called
Speaker 3: me and was just like, hey, uh, they said they
Speaker 3: they're good on you like that, he said, basically, now
Speaker 3: he said it like that, but they don't want they
Speaker 3: want to let you go.
Speaker 4: And something in me was just like, well, all right,
Speaker 4: fucking cool.
Speaker 3: I was in Atlanta. I was just like, I got
Speaker 3: that news. He said, listen, but I got a check
Speaker 3: for you. So I went you got my check. I
Speaker 3: told Tone about it. Tone was like, Noah, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: see what's going on.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. I'm good because at this at
Speaker 3: this point, I'm signed like two years, a year and
Speaker 3: a half at least, nothing really happened for me.
Speaker 4: You know, they dropped me.
Speaker 3: So now I'm back in the hood. I'm at Ryo
Speaker 3: House on one roll doing records again in the hood.
Speaker 3: No more budget, no more Sony, no more, no more,
Speaker 3: no more interns running.
Speaker 4: Full budget, none of that. So I had to I
Speaker 4: had to.
Speaker 3: Dig back in and and and work my you know,
Speaker 3: working working back.
Speaker 1: How you didn't get discouraged, That's.
Speaker 3: A good question. I kind of felt like it did
Speaker 3: bother me, though.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: If I set up here and tell you that, I
Speaker 3: wasn't bothered, because it bothers your spirit because you feel
Speaker 3: like you made it. And this is a time when
Speaker 3: we when I was attributed getting a record deal, Like
Speaker 3: like I just went to the NBA just got a
Speaker 3: record deal.
Speaker 1: The like I made it.
Speaker 3: Only only the best niggas get a real record deal.
Speaker 3: I had been in, I had been in, I had
Speaker 3: been out for eighteen months. Wow, after doing ten years,
Speaker 3: I got my first record.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it hurt me.
Speaker 4: It hurt me a little bit, but I knew that
Speaker 4: I had to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Wow. You know, I wanted to show you a story.
Speaker 1: This is real funny because I had already kind of
Speaker 1: like the had platinum records. But I'm moving out to
Speaker 1: death Jam. So we moving to Depth Jam and IRV
Speaker 1: Gotty is downstairs in the lobby. IRV God. He looks
Speaker 1: at me and goes, I don't think you made it.
Speaker 1: And I look at him, like you, I hate them.
Speaker 1: But he was like, yo, he was giving me the game.
Speaker 1: I didn't know at this time. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: don't drop your guards because you got depth Jam.
Speaker 3: So is that what you're saying, like that's one hundred
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because you listen, I'm sitting in the day
Speaker 3: room imagining what it felt like to be a nigga
Speaker 3: shooting these videos.
Speaker 1: And you remember it was it was a.
Speaker 4: Thousand what is this a break budget for videos?
Speaker 1: Back?
Speaker 4: Then yeah, budgets were crazy, mister Lee.
Speaker 1: They gave me water. It's a prank joke. Why did
Speaker 1: they give me water? My bad? I have to start
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what is going on here? They trying
Speaker 1: to help me? The hell's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Take your time, my bad. You So, so I'm looking
Speaker 3: at these videos. I'm looking at one on six in Paul.
Speaker 3: We're looking at Rapid City, and I'm just like, that's
Speaker 3: the life I want. I'm wanna get away from this ship.
Speaker 3: I wanna get out these streets and get away from
Speaker 3: this jail ship. I want to be one of them niggas.
Speaker 3: So so you think that you associate success with the
Speaker 3: glitz of it, the loft, the likes, the looks, the outfits,
Speaker 3: the jury, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 3: So when I got out and I got my first
Speaker 3: record deal, I'm like, I made it. If somebody would
Speaker 3: have said to me, what got to you? I would
Speaker 3: have snapped out of it, even though I knew I
Speaker 3: was working, I still was working, but I would have
Speaker 3: had I would have went at it. The mind state
Speaker 3: would have.
Speaker 4: Been a lot better to plus the label politics too.
Speaker 1: Definitely, Once you learn that, once you learn that, you
Speaker 1: gotta really.
Speaker 2: Like there's camps in there that.
Speaker 3: It's all this camps. Then then you gotta have like
Speaker 3: somebody really like a bodyguard. You gotta have somebody really
Speaker 3: pushing for you, an executive and that's really going now
Speaker 3: he the guy and really every day because they got
Speaker 3: to roster up with different artists, they don't always have
Speaker 3: the answers, they don't really know what to do, and
Speaker 3: the times was changing, so it was just like.
Speaker 1: Did I make it?
Speaker 3: So when you get dropped, you like you start to
Speaker 3: doubt yourself. Am I really that good back of the hood?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Now around a little bit because you just recently went
Speaker 1: to Saint Thomas and sometimeas Saint Croix, and you got
Speaker 1: family out there, Saint Coury, got a little bit of
Speaker 1: Port Rican's out there. They do.
Speaker 3: No, my family is from St. Thomas in listen, listen,
Speaker 3: I spent the whole summer in Saint Croix when I
Speaker 3: was a kid. Okay, so my mother, my mother's mother
Speaker 3: and fall the both from the Virgin Islands. Now, what's
Speaker 3: funny is that my grandmother had Puerto Rican relatives like.
Speaker 1: I do have Puerto Rican a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see it. I never talked about it, but absolutely,
Speaker 1: you don't start claiming you made Come on, let's do it, man.
Speaker 3: I got, I got, I got, I got cousin's named Felix.
Speaker 1: Yeah I know Felix, I know him. Yeah, so real.
Speaker 1: So how was that experience because that was your first
Speaker 1: time going back as now you man star. And then
Speaker 1: I found one of my uncles. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 4: I found one of my uncles randomly.
Speaker 1: Or so I knew.
Speaker 3: I knew my grandfather had like twenty kids.
Speaker 1: That's annoy.
Speaker 3: My grandfather wasn't nothing to be played with, at least
Speaker 3: I think twenty they got. They got it around like
Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 1: But I had to be so.
Speaker 3: But I knew the name my last my mother, his
Speaker 3: maiden name was Ingerman, so that was my grandfather's name.
Speaker 3: So when I went out at the same time as
Speaker 3: I was like asking around about Ingerman and everybody was
Speaker 3: telling me about this John Ingerman, and I was like,
Speaker 3: he got to be related to me. So I got
Speaker 3: in contact with him. I was like, I think, I
Speaker 3: think I'm your relative. And he asked me who my
Speaker 3: mother was, and I was like, my grandfather was was
Speaker 3: you know, was Joseph Ingerman, and he said, man, that
Speaker 3: was my father.
Speaker 1: I'm your uncle.
Speaker 4: So I found my mother brother.
Speaker 1: Online no over over texts, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: When I got the Saint Thomas earlier last year, you know,
Speaker 3: so I actually found him and then we met up
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 4: I met some of my relatives. This is my mother's
Speaker 4: brother who she never met.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was that yeah, yoh man, And.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit go ahead. Would you ever do
Speaker 1: love of hip hop again?
Speaker 3: I mean it's all business though, bro right, So everything
Speaker 3: is about business. If the business was right, then I
Speaker 3: would consider any I would consider.
Speaker 4: It, you know, I would do it in the heart
Speaker 4: of the heart of dime. I love it. You love
Speaker 4: this executive.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't have that same experience. I only did it
Speaker 3: one time. And I felt like they felt like I
Speaker 3: stuck them up.
Speaker 1: I feel like because but I.
Speaker 3: Felt like that they didn't. They was like, well, we
Speaker 3: wasn't getting nothing from you, and I was kind of yeah,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not with all that.
Speaker 1: They thought they were starting to mainoa deep.
Speaker 3: They wasn't get that I was gonna go on TV
Speaker 3: and I act like a monkey like that wasn't gonna
Speaker 3: be that, you know what I mean? So I was
Speaker 3: like trying to control everything, like, nah, she's not gonna
Speaker 3: be in that scene.
Speaker 6: Who she?
Speaker 3: Who she filming with? No, I ain't gonna go who.
Speaker 3: You got me feeling it now, I don't be filming
Speaker 3: with these niggas. So they was I was trying to
Speaker 3: Michael manage everything. So I ended up only maybe on
Speaker 3: like seven episodes out of that season.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of because it's pretty fourteen Yeah, yeah, seven.
Speaker 1: So what you said you would never do, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, if the business was right, they got at
Speaker 3: least start me higher than they started me before. Of
Speaker 3: course every season, every season, it goes up.
Speaker 4: But so now we got to be, you know, in
Speaker 4: another another space.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because it was that I had them
Speaker 3: in a good place the first time, you know, and
Speaker 3: they felt like I robbed them.
Speaker 4: I think the same thing to me one time for
Speaker 4: Robber stick up?
Speaker 1: How many people ask you for a million bucks after
Speaker 1: you dropped that Swiss worcond?
Speaker 4: How many?
Speaker 1: How many people ask you for a million bucks? All up?
Speaker 1: Like this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we printed up. We printed up like one hundred
Speaker 3: dollars bills with my face on it, and then we
Speaker 3: go to the shows and like throw it out people.
Speaker 2: They was taking them money and taking out for that
Speaker 2: many times throwing money got your.
Speaker 3: We thought it was real money.
Speaker 4: You know how people are they people they want real money,
Speaker 4: of course for real.
Speaker 1: But because I was like, damn, that was mad pressure.
Speaker 1: That must have been mad pressure, especially your family members.
Speaker 1: You're giving million, give it to your family.
Speaker 3: I always felt like, man, maybe we should have changed it.
Speaker 3: I feel like a million million, But I think I
Speaker 3: feel like a million bucks, Like maybe we should have
Speaker 3: changed that.
Speaker 1: I think I think that even if you would have
Speaker 1: changed it, would have said the same shit, like you
Speaker 1: give it out a million bucks, buddy, damn. So do
Speaker 1: you still love do you love this game? The game?
Speaker 1: I don't love.
Speaker 3: I don't absolutely love the business of the game. I
Speaker 3: love the art of it. I love to to create something,
Speaker 3: you know, to see something that you created then let
Speaker 3: it have a little impacting and performing and just the
Speaker 3: love for the game. In that way, the business of
Speaker 3: it is disheartening, you know what I mean. It takes
Speaker 3: to it the fun, It takes a fight out you like,
Speaker 3: like god, all listen, right, oh list because you understand,
Speaker 3: like the general public don't understand that. You know, when
Speaker 3: you put out a record, that there's so much that
Speaker 3: has to go into it to make that record a hit. Right,
Speaker 3: So they say that records are not made and manufactured.
Speaker 3: They you know, it's like they promote it, they market it. Right,
Speaker 3: it's a budget, it's.
Speaker 4: People, it's a plan. So they think that you just
Speaker 4: thrown out does.
Speaker 3: They don't understand that that two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 3: to go behind it is just not there yeap, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and you still got to recoup that two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty.
Speaker 3: But nowadays they don't even they're not even.
Speaker 1: If you not.
Speaker 3: In that top algorithm, you no top ten percent of
Speaker 3: artists like us like a Drake or Nigga, Like you
Speaker 3: can't get paid for that two fifty more. They not
Speaker 3: even they're not even doing that. Wow, they're not putting
Speaker 3: out they're not getting behind a rap record with that
Speaker 3: type of money.
Speaker 1: No more. No, it's crazy that when they say that
Speaker 1: rap wasn't in the top billboard this year.
Speaker 3: I've been seeing that, like how does that happen? And
Speaker 3: when we are the most influential. But I feel like
Speaker 3: we influenced the world and everybody took pieces of hip hop,
Speaker 3: and then certain genres might be even more bigger. I
Speaker 3: think afro beats is like world music, like them bowld relative,
Speaker 3: the Latin is huge, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 3: I feel like all those have ingredients and elements of
Speaker 3: hip hop.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But it's also what you're saying that if the labels
Speaker 2: ain't pushing it, you're not going to see them in
Speaker 2: the billboard. I mean, the music isn't out there because
Speaker 2: you know, the artists aren't making a.
Speaker 1: Great, great music. What it is is to me, I
Speaker 1: think the labels just got lazy and they want the
Speaker 1: artist that's already They're looking for people that's like already
Speaker 1: got They not deping artists no.
Speaker 3: More, no development, development, and all that is over because
Speaker 3: you know what all of the departments that they had
Speaker 3: to develop an artist, like let's just say like media training, right,
Speaker 3: they don't they're not doing that.
Speaker 1: Artists, development, development, none of that right.
Speaker 3: So it's just like you gotta come as is you
Speaker 3: because it's about the algorithm. So if you don't have
Speaker 3: the numbers to match what you're doing we ain't fucking
Speaker 3: with it, and you might pass up on an artist
Speaker 3: that really got it, because before it was about your talent.
Speaker 4: It was like, damn, this is the next such and such,
Speaker 4: this is the first such and such, This is this guy?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Whether that was R and B, whether that was wrapping
Speaker 3: female rappers, young rapper, it didn't matter if you had it,
Speaker 3: they were They was willing to invest in it and
Speaker 3: kind of make you a stuff. They're not making out.
Speaker 3: They're not making them stars a moment at all.
Speaker 1: They because they're stupid. Sorry, record loads, but sorry, but
Speaker 1: they kind of kind of like you.
Speaker 2: Said, they want turnkey artists.
Speaker 3: The money, right, it's about the money though. It's easier
Speaker 3: for them to get behind something than it is to spend,
Speaker 3: you know, a million and a half per artist just
Speaker 3: to build them up.
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy with Leo. I spoke to
Speaker 1: Leo the other day and Leo said, this is still
Speaker 1: this is still the easiest game to get in right
Speaker 1: hip hop, because he said, right now you used to
Speaker 1: have to pay for the album covers, Like right now
Speaker 1: we could just take a picture. You don't even have
Speaker 1: to pressure off up the album cover. You remember how
Speaker 1: much that she used to cause the press c a
Speaker 1: fucking like, like your budget was done before you. You
Speaker 1: didn't even drop. You was already in the red right
Speaker 1: now as you got director consume on, like if you
Speaker 1: got and you could just hit that button and it's
Speaker 1: direct That's what Leo are saying. He's like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know for seasonal artists. Yeah, He's like, it's the best
Speaker 1: time for us.
Speaker 4: That's the best thing to do right now.
Speaker 3: And I was just having a conversation the other day
Speaker 3: direct consumer, because if you built up a base, if
Speaker 3: you got if.
Speaker 4: You got one hundred people that love you.
Speaker 3: A hundred times ten, talk to it going, yeah, you're gone,
Speaker 3: speak to them, give it to them. They understand because
Speaker 3: the days of them nurturing artists and making them you know,
Speaker 3: Mary J. Blige in Leasha Keys, I don't know if
Speaker 3: we're seeing that.
Speaker 1: No more, you know it. What's the ill shit about
Speaker 1: doing this podcast is we could actually see the algorithms.
Speaker 1: Remember back in the days. Sorry sounds like the old guy,
Speaker 1: remember the back of the day. Sorry it sounds like that, dude,
Speaker 1: But hey, lucky to be Remember we used to go
Speaker 1: on tour, and when you go on tour, they will
Speaker 1: send you on like thirty two states, fifteen of them
Speaker 1: states didn't matter what were you doing in Kentucky When
Speaker 1: you ain't selling not won unit in Kentucky and you
Speaker 1: can't win over the whole fucking state, They're just not
Speaker 1: fucking with you. Just avoid. It's not no disrespect and
Speaker 1: no beep to that. But it's like, and nowadays you
Speaker 1: could actually see you don't have to waste your time.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go to Milwaukee. If you're not
Speaker 1: letting Milwaukee you have you can stick with your algorithms
Speaker 1: to stick with New York is my market, Philly is
Speaker 1: my market, Delaware is my market, Connecticut, and so on
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth.
Speaker 4: So that's the good thing about I.
Speaker 1: Think that's the advantage if you know how to do that.
Speaker 3: Right, right the metrics right, because the metrics shows that
Speaker 3: exactly where right, you know, you may have some impact.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: It also shows your.
Speaker 3: Your age range, uh, your you know what what what
Speaker 3: you know agenda right, so it shows you a little
Speaker 3: bit of everything.
Speaker 4: So now you're able to to kind of like go
Speaker 4: right directly there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love that you're still out partying.
Speaker 1: You used to be every night. I'm still.
Speaker 3: I'm still, I'm still. I haven't retired. I haven't retired.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm still like a good time. You know,
Speaker 3: we're not partying aimlessly though we're not.
Speaker 1: We're not.
Speaker 3: Oh man, last time with me and you was here
Speaker 3: in Miami. I think I told you the story. Me
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 1: We went to.
Speaker 4: Crome on twelve. Okay, okay, we had dinner.
Speaker 1: And I was. I was here.
Speaker 3: I think that was like a Friday night, and and
Speaker 3: and I was doing ship that I had no busessy,
Speaker 3: you had nothing another to do this, but I was.
Speaker 3: I was on one that night.
Speaker 4: I got smoke weed with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we uh successful exactly.
Speaker 4: And then you know, I was playing around with Miley.
Speaker 1: This is Maley.
Speaker 4: I were back then. I'm just playing around.
Speaker 1: And loving good Miley.
Speaker 3: Story ship I ain't had no business doing.
Speaker 1: Ended up and Bob, yeah, molly on mile Man. You
Speaker 1: woke up the next morning the rollie was going home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, holy ship, real talk, real talk, real tell that
Speaker 3: that's great.
Speaker 1: I always I always know the interview of how it's
Speaker 1: gonna go, by what they order and if they if
Speaker 1: they come late. As soon as I seen you on
Speaker 1: the balcony. I said, this man is coming late. You
Speaker 1: feel in Miami?
Speaker 4: Right, you feel it love Miami. Okay, it was only
Speaker 4: ten minutes.
Speaker 1: You're usually we got people by that. People do not
Speaker 1: know that I'm not an artist. I'm like, oh, artists,
Speaker 1: I'm be like, oh.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm I'm real serious about time. So
Speaker 3: if I if I'm late, it's because something kind of
Speaker 3: got in my way a little bit, because I measured
Speaker 3: time really good and it's important for me, like I
Speaker 3: tell my son all the time, like you have to
Speaker 3: be always on time.
Speaker 4: Don't let nobody use that as an excuse.
Speaker 1: Right, So let me like I said, I'm bouncing my
Speaker 1: ends a little bit. Like a year and a half ago, right,
Speaker 1: I had said that I wouldn't interview somebody, right, but
Speaker 1: because of my relationship with other artists, and I said,
Speaker 1: I said, I just couldn't do it. I have to
Speaker 1: look at this man and dinners at times with fact,
Speaker 1: why would I go interview his enemy?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Jamel Hill tweeted me and said I thought me and
Speaker 1: Jamel Hill was cool, but she tweeted me and she
Speaker 1: was like, this is why you're not really a journalist.
Speaker 1: And at first I took it wrong. I wanted to
Speaker 1: hit back and play motherfucker, but then I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, I do have a certain
Speaker 1: type of loyalty that prevents me from being a full
Speaker 1: fledged journalist.
Speaker 3: Is that something you feel like, I ain't no journalists
Speaker 3: at all?
Speaker 4: Journalists?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I am not a journalist, right, I am not one, right,
Speaker 3: And I don't even want to confuse that. Just because
Speaker 3: somebody speaks on a mic and maybe you know, do
Speaker 3: a podcast, you know, may may even affiliate with himself
Speaker 3: with the radio, that doesn't mean or make you an
Speaker 3: absolute journalist. I think that's a for the real journalists
Speaker 3: out there that really that's a professional. That's a profession.
Speaker 3: They went to school and they you know, and ain't
Speaker 3: really living that life. That's for them that I ain't that.
Speaker 1: Right, Like like they always give me an example, they say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: like more reposing them. They interviewed the cuts Klans, And
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, like they they'll give
Speaker 1: me examples like that. I don't want to interview no rapists,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to, Like I'm sorry, Like I
Speaker 1: got to mind, Like if I know there's certain things
Speaker 1: that you said, like a.
Speaker 3: Real true journalist when it comes to journalism, they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't, they don't draw online.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you interviewing if you're white, you can interview fire
Speaker 1: a card if you if you're black, and if you David.
Speaker 3: Duke's or so you're saying as a as a as
Speaker 3: nor usual aligne with certain I do.
Speaker 1: I have to man, because I'm not mad at you,
Speaker 1: like like like like I would be. I would feel
Speaker 1: bad that someone is sitting in front of me knowing
Speaker 1: to me and you got a great relationship and then
Speaker 1: they're shitting on you and then me even trying to
Speaker 1: stop them because at times like and you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Learn more and more.
Speaker 1: You've been in media for some time since Kitchen Talk,
Speaker 1: You've been doing this, so I know you've been learning more.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you are guilty by association.
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that. I feel like that because
Speaker 3: we we pick our sides. Bro.
Speaker 1: It is what it is like.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. If me and you getting money,
Speaker 3: our families know each other. You have you pulled my
Speaker 3: crib on thanksgiving up? You know, we busting bags together.
Speaker 3: We have business relationship as well as a working one.
Speaker 4: It's in me to honor that. It ain't in me
Speaker 4: to with that type of relationship.
Speaker 3: To to to congregate with anybody that that you feel
Speaker 3: like you got a problem with, that's just not in me.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: That doesn't make me have a problem with the other person, understand,
Speaker 3: But I don't want to congregate with the people that
Speaker 3: you don't fuck with because I want to honor that relationship.
Speaker 3: I think it should be more of that, Like let's
Speaker 3: jor like niggas. I don't pick sized niggas. What are
Speaker 3: you talking about? When you don't pick size, the side get.
Speaker 4: Picked for you.
Speaker 1: And if you if you're supposed to be my man,
Speaker 1: you under some dude's comments like it his ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm judging you, bro, What the fuck? Why would
Speaker 3: you be liking that? Listen, that's only really started really
Speaker 3: with some internet ship. And I don't like to always
Speaker 3: attribute attribute things to the street because I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't been many places since then.
Speaker 3: But like, if you beefing on an and you and
Speaker 3: he's a serious guy, right, he's already saying hisself, yeah,
Speaker 3: glory be with Maine on every day. So when I
Speaker 3: see man, what's.
Speaker 1: Up with him too?
Speaker 4: The side get picked for you.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Nobody's saying maybe he don't got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3: People already associate you. You're guilty by the association, my association.
Speaker 3: So but you gotta if that's the person you fuck with,
Speaker 3: own it, Yeah, own it. This is I funck with
Speaker 3: this person, good, bad, indifferent.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Okay, switching up a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know you're you're on a national radio station. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with Angela, Right, and she lives by those rules. Journeys,
Speaker 1: she's a journey. She can be taken as a journalist.
Speaker 1: Would there ever be a time where she's interviewing somebody
Speaker 1: and you're there? Would you not show up? Or how
Speaker 1: would you handle it with somebody I ain't with you,
Speaker 1: ain't fucking with all somebody one of your people who
Speaker 1: ain't fuck with?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the right cho But she me
Speaker 3: and her had had have had conversations where she wouldn't
Speaker 3: do it certain interviews with certain people's if she really
Speaker 3: fucked with the person like she honest her friendships, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it all depends on the
Speaker 3: people and it and it kind of depends on the
Speaker 3: problem too.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm about to say.
Speaker 4: It depends on the problem.
Speaker 3: If you're telling me, like I'm saying, now, what's up, bro,
Speaker 3: like you want you know you're gonna that this You're like, nah, man,
Speaker 3: I'm not debating it like it is what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not pursuing it neither. But I don't
Speaker 3: fun with that person and me and you like that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you have that, like you can.
Speaker 1: See when it's real, and you can see when it's
Speaker 1: when it's when it's not real. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it's giving flowers, give flowers, giving people they fly.
Speaker 4: Really know that we're gonna give.
Speaker 1: You your flowers.
Speaker 4: Man, man, this is nice, But I like this.
Speaker 1: Wow, thank you? Yes, absolutely absolutely. So what's your favorite
Speaker 1: performing or making the record? Making it? Making the record? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you said performing performing it?
Speaker 3: You know what, Making it is fun because coming up
Speaker 3: with it, performing it is just like when seeing that
Speaker 3: have some impact and then people seeing your words. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, It's no greater high than that.
Speaker 3: There's no greater high. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Holy you bu you know what I meant. Huge records,
Speaker 3: it's no greater feeling than that, you know. But but
Speaker 3: when I was making it, I always like, damn, I
Speaker 3: remember sitting back coming up with these words, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. The feeling of of doing that and
Speaker 3: those words becoming something is like.
Speaker 1: There was even a better feeling. But when you go
Speaker 1: out and perform that record, like your new record don't
Speaker 1: work for the first time, but you you performed, that's it,
Speaker 1: that's happened to be. This is what the they just
Speaker 1: looked at me, crickets. It was crikeds what they telling
Speaker 1: me you your record.
Speaker 4: Is number one?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, there's no ways you doubt it too,
Speaker 2: I won't notice it.
Speaker 1: Six months later I came back to that same stage
Speaker 1: Or was I so happy I told it?
Speaker 4: It's a different feeling when everybody know your.
Speaker 1: Words, yes and you got all right? Only above for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, there's people who listen to
Speaker 1: that record who probably don't listen to hip hop.
Speaker 4: It's people that transcend.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, it's people that listen to that
Speaker 3: record that really don't even listen to me.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know.
Speaker 4: That, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You ain't got nobody, don't get me, don't get me together.
Speaker 4: I just got I just I just got some water.
Speaker 1: They got me, they got me, they gave me your water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go, We're going straight to shots. Okay, wow right,
Speaker 1: oh wow, So but ahead, let's go. So there's people
Speaker 1: that listen to that record.
Speaker 3: That while you don't even listen to me because it
Speaker 3: kind of crossed the street, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's like if you if all your songs on
Speaker 3: across the street, and are they really gonna finish? Like
Speaker 3: I got a couple of records that it's like a
Speaker 3: lot of white people, they're like, yeah, man, you know
Speaker 3: that that fucking it above and remember my name?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: When I was in high school, like that was our
Speaker 4: song right there.
Speaker 3: So it's just like, man, that feels good. I performed
Speaker 3: that at bob Mitz Fuss. You said, Bob Mitz Fust
Speaker 3: and bot Mitz Fast. One of them is for a female,
Speaker 3: oh ship, one of them is for the male. I think,
Speaker 3: I think, don't quote me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I think the bar Mitz Fuss for the for the
Speaker 3: young boy. I think the bat Mitz foot is for
Speaker 3: the young girl.
Speaker 4: Weddings. I'm talking about Islamic weddings.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know, uh, Muslim weddings crazy because it was
Speaker 3: across the street of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Jesus you got a quick time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm in. I'm in. Let's do this, Okay
Speaker 1: you readily?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm bad.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: This is our drinking game, man, drinking game. We'll give
Speaker 2: you two choices. Pick one, we're not drinking. If I
Speaker 2: don't pick it, then we don't pick it.
Speaker 4: We drinking.
Speaker 2: Or if you say both, Okay, you really don't want to.
Speaker 1: Ask, I'm gonna switch up the first one. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: the first of one. Jay z or Nahs, jay Z Damn,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have switched that. I'm trying to get to it.
Speaker 1: Go back to the original one, okay, jay z.
Speaker 4: Or Caine.
Speaker 3: Damn Caine kind of gave gave us jay Z, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna save from the legacy jay Z.
Speaker 1: Okay nas or l L because you were in like
Speaker 1: that light skin category two brown like nas Okay, that's
Speaker 1: gonna uncle murder or yeah, y'all uncle murder.
Speaker 4: Okay, Swisser, just blaze.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: Those both of my guys gave me hits.
Speaker 1: Take a shot.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a shot on that.
Speaker 1: Oh I like this one m P or marb deep.
Speaker 4: Hands down mob Deep and I'm from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I love human I expect that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a huge.
Speaker 1: Mark like that.
Speaker 4: You know, none of my guys Yeah those my guys
Speaker 4: is my guys, like but the mab.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on man, you're doing it's crazy. And let
Speaker 1: me just say this real quick, because I know it's
Speaker 1: going to sound like a little curveball is and I
Speaker 1: know it's going to sound a little curveballersh. But I
Speaker 1: recently started to know how dope mall deep is. Ive
Speaker 1: been in the algorithm so long the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a huge mab de fan.
Speaker 3: I got it, and I'm grateful that I got a
Speaker 3: chance to tell Prodigy that. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: really understood that though, Like I'm really a huge mab
Speaker 3: deep fan.
Speaker 4: Like that infamous album. Man, that was a whole other level.
Speaker 3: But there I felt like they was really they made
Speaker 3: me really take a peek inside the Queensbridge, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that was a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rest peace, Prodigy, definitely.
Speaker 4: Podcast, Joe and Jada are a million dollars worth the games.
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada, Joe and Jada definitely got last year's
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, and I believe y'all got this
Speaker 1: year is coming up. I'mna give you. I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that, y'all mad funny Fab. I knew
Speaker 1: how funny you are. I'm so glad that the world
Speaker 1: you can see how funny Fab is.
Speaker 4: That is money. Yeah, yeah, such a human.
Speaker 1: And at first, I'm gonna be honest with you because
Speaker 1: Fab is like one of them jay Z type of
Speaker 1: dudes that we don't know nothing about because he says
Speaker 1: a mystique. So I was scared at first. So I
Speaker 1: was like because because you know, And then I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: he's doing it right. He's showing his personality. He's laughing.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have worked with nobody else to work, I
Speaker 3: had to work with somebody. He was super comfortable, comfortable,
Speaker 3: real relationship with.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna get into that. We're gonna finish quick
Speaker 1: time of slot Young Doug or little Baby.
Speaker 4: Oh Man, Dog Okay Vada or Dave East, mister David.
Speaker 1: Fab or Jada Kiss.
Speaker 4: So I'm a home team player, no shot, no fat.
Speaker 1: Okay fat yeah, uh Cam or Mace.
Speaker 4: I always always like Cam a little more, was more gritty.
Speaker 4: It was more for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely locks or clips locks.
Speaker 8: Mm hmm, Universal or Atlantic Atlantic, Yes, University man, okay,
Speaker 8: IRV God your Chris Lighty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they both legends. Rest in peace, Rest in peace.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drink the both of them.
Speaker 1: Let us go. We're gonna drink them, both of them.
Speaker 1: That's by the both passed away. Rest in peace. Man,
Speaker 1: Biggie or Big Point Big you have a met Big.
Speaker 4: Years ago like he wasn't he was?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm too Parc or Easy Park just gonna say
Speaker 1: easy that was. Yeah, this is one of my favorite questions.
Speaker 1: You have always doubts me on it, Boot Tang or
Speaker 1: n w A. Let's drink it.
Speaker 4: Let's do it because they you know what, because I'm.
Speaker 3: Influenced by both.
Speaker 1: I'm influenced by both. Yeah, let's yeah, and they influenced
Speaker 1: too class separately.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying. We got to do the
Speaker 3: whole shot. You don't have to Yeah, yeah, like you
Speaker 3: t I or lud said, you're not gonna stop while
Speaker 3: you listen frightening or Gucci man, I'm gonna get at
Speaker 3: the Gucci okay that Yeah, it's that influence.
Speaker 1: Okay, Nino Brown or Frank White, Nino was a rat.
Speaker 1: Yeah he became a rat. Yeah, that's it. That's all.
Speaker 1: He wasn't throughout the whole movie, the whole movie, throughout
Speaker 1: the whole movie to the end.
Speaker 4: He sucked up the movie. I wasn't born with it.
Speaker 4: Smool in my mouth, Hawkins, Right, okay. Premiere Pete Rock
Speaker 4: premiere mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Sean Pete or o dB oh dB.
Speaker 2: Ob the MTV raps or video music box, video music
Speaker 2: box pants down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all that respect. The last question before
Speaker 1: you get back into the interview. I'm not gonna lead
Speaker 1: the witness. I was about to, I'm not gonna leave
Speaker 1: the witness. Loyalty or respect.
Speaker 3: You can't have loyalty if you don't have respect. I
Speaker 3: always say that there's no like who you're gonna be
Speaker 3: loyal to if you don't respect it. Let's take a
Speaker 3: shot for that. This is impossible. So it's respect is
Speaker 3: the foundation of everything.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I got a lot of inside questions.
Speaker 3: That this is dangerous in the middle of the day.
Speaker 3: This is a zoom oh oh, yeah, you requested that
Speaker 3: a little saucy over here real listen, and then you.
Speaker 4: In Miami, so you know you don't go home. You
Speaker 4: got a problem, you don't go Yeah, it's it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I did Height thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: Now you're supposed to be making a Soca album, not
Speaker 1: an album.
Speaker 2: But you know what.
Speaker 4: I felt like, no playing with When I heard that,
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you know what.
Speaker 3: I went the same Thomas and I was riding on
Speaker 3: the float.
Speaker 1: You got turned out Thomas turned.
Speaker 2: Album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what.
Speaker 3: Happened was the guy on the mic was it was
Speaker 3: like it was like so many piece thousands of people outside.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been a carnival?
Speaker 4: Thousands of people outside, and and the guys.
Speaker 3: Like let the ambulance, dude back up, give it spast,
Speaker 3: give it spast. I was like, man, that sh sound
Speaker 3: like a hook.
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to go to the studio,
Speaker 4: and I was like, give it spast. I made a
Speaker 4: Soca record. Man shout out the fan Yo yo and
Speaker 4: and bungee galling man.
Speaker 3: I think saved my life, saved my mentality.
Speaker 1: I was used to the tunnel and club speed and people,
Speaker 1: you know, and there's there's no everyone that's partying. They
Speaker 1: dancing all night. Like recently, I just went to UHT
Speaker 1: Christner's comedian party. I not forgot how it feels to
Speaker 1: be in a party without ice girls, Like nobody was
Speaker 1: ice growling. I was like, nobody's in here, mad.
Speaker 4: I don't like them.
Speaker 1: Nobody's mad.
Speaker 4: I like the parties and everybody's happy.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I like those parties like there
Speaker 1: was nobody man. I was like, yo, I'm not good.
Speaker 1: I was like, your hip hop has ruined me, bro,
Speaker 1: Like hip hop has ruined me. Like I'm used to
Speaker 1: walking in an event a club, if it's a club setting,
Speaker 1: I'm used to like someone like something happening, something happening,
Speaker 1: and I didn't experience that. Is that what you're gonna
Speaker 1: do with the soca?
Speaker 3: I like, I like socas is vibes, Like, but you
Speaker 3: know what dope As a hip hop artist, we tap
Speaker 3: into everything, you know, Spanish market, like I've made songs
Speaker 3: I'm rapping in Spanish right, you know, like it's just culture, bro,
Speaker 3: Like you know I've worked with Diamond Platinums, you know
Speaker 3: from Tanzania. You know, he's one of the biggest artists
Speaker 3: coming out of Africa. So It's just like, I just
Speaker 3: think that we could do whatever we want to do.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think did you ever think afrobeasts would
Speaker 1: be here? Like I never knew what it was until
Speaker 1: I heard it, because you're from Brooklyn, and Brooklyn is
Speaker 1: heavily reggae heavily you guys, You guys are everybody's like
Speaker 1: automatically Jamaican.
Speaker 5: If you from Brooklyn, Indian, it was you something you
Speaker 5: should add in you you you you, you know you
Speaker 5: from somewhere.
Speaker 3: You know you Jamaican, you you know you're Beijing, you Haitian,
Speaker 3: you something you know? But no, I mean I think
Speaker 3: we influenced by that hip hop was influenced. They said
Speaker 3: cool hurt was what jamake it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's his background.
Speaker 1: Make it. Yeah cool hurk man. Wherever you happen, we
Speaker 1: want to get I want to. I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to, Yeah, I want to apologize a cool hurt.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I just I just want to apologize the cool Hurt man.
Speaker 3: I want to do this because I talked about doing
Speaker 3: on my podcast, but I didn't say the name of
Speaker 3: who I was talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, what was you saying the reference to?
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything to him. I never disrespected this man.
Speaker 3: But I did disrespect him, okay, And I want to
Speaker 3: admit this right here on drink Champs of how I
Speaker 3: I knocked his scooter down? What I knocked his scooter down?
Speaker 3: His scooter that he was rotten. I'm back into it,
Speaker 3: say mistake. Oh okay, the scooter. It's not like you
Speaker 3: just ran up on cool but but I was so
Speaker 3: priud that I couldn't pick it up and I left
Speaker 3: it there. He don't know.
Speaker 1: It's YouTube knows, you know.
Speaker 4: People told me. So I apologize going into the school.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, man, and I'm sorry man.
Speaker 1: Mother. H Okay, I know we spoke about it briefly,
Speaker 1: but let's rap about it. Let's rap about it. Let's
Speaker 1: before we get there. I forgot you had a podcast.
Speaker 4: And you know also you gotta remember you was coaching
Speaker 4: me years ago.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, so, so how how was it? Because
Speaker 1: kitchen talk was really mainly you, but you really, let's
Speaker 1: rap about it. You guys are like really like like
Speaker 1: the A team A yeah, yeah, so one, how did
Speaker 1: y'all put that together? And to how do y'all worry
Speaker 1: not clashing egos?
Speaker 3: That's the thing, okay, in order to in order to
Speaker 3: have a team effort, you got to lead an ego
Speaker 3: at home. And we and as rappers and as black men,
Speaker 3: we all have that because when we have nothing else,
Speaker 3: all we had was our pride.
Speaker 4: All we had was our ego. You know what I mean,
Speaker 4: no money, no nothing in our pocket.
Speaker 1: I'm that nigga.
Speaker 4: You know you feel you feel that, right.
Speaker 3: So I think when you're mature enough to say, look,
Speaker 3: I could still be me and still support you, still
Speaker 3: gonna be able to support you. It don't diminish me.
Speaker 3: But that come with maturity though, That come with time.
Speaker 3: And I think that we got to a space where
Speaker 3: we built our relationship over years, you know, us working
Speaker 3: out together, hanging out together, like really trying to really
Speaker 3: kind of get to know each other, right outside of
Speaker 3: just music, you develop a relationship. But also is respect.
Speaker 3: Remember I told you, respect is the foundation of everything.
Speaker 3: So I don't want I won't disrespect you, my nigga,
Speaker 3: you know you, my guys, I don't want to disrespect you.
Speaker 4: So so the thing is, that's the only way to
Speaker 4: to to.
Speaker 3: Kind of diminish the ego is to have that that
Speaker 3: that level of respect, to understand that you by supporting you,
Speaker 3: your nigga.
Speaker 4: It doesn't diminish you. It might be a Jim.
Speaker 3: Jones show, it ain't my show, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: come and support everything ain't got to be about me.
Speaker 3: And then when I got something going on, then the
Speaker 3: guys will pull up right and support it right. So
Speaker 3: it's a it's a give and take though, and I
Speaker 3: think we're stronger together now.
Speaker 1: And for the first time, it felt like New York unity.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the one thing that you know me as
Speaker 1: a you know, I live in Miami, but I'm my
Speaker 1: heart is in New York because I'm always going to
Speaker 1: be in New York. And I love to see us
Speaker 1: work together, like sometimes I love to see us even
Speaker 1: beefing together as long as we like you, you know,
Speaker 1: because the one thing certain is and you know, I
Speaker 1: love Jim and I love cam right, and I know
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound crazy too, but if they were to
Speaker 1: say to me or to anybody, yo, we set this up,
Speaker 1: it feels like it because you like, once they beefing,
Speaker 1: you can't go on Instagram. They own Instagram, both of
Speaker 1: them they own. You don't never see that. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: if they actually thought.
Speaker 4: This out, even though I'm sure it's not.
Speaker 3: I know, but when as fans of them, fans of
Speaker 3: the music, and fans of the of their movement, legacy,
Speaker 3: the legacy of what they did, we would want them
Speaker 3: to be like, man, this is just playing. He's just playing,
Speaker 3: just playing, you know, But nah, yeah, it's real man.
Speaker 1: And I love I love both.
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: I got to I got to go on tour with them.
Speaker 1: I got to. I didn't even realize that I knew
Speaker 1: Cam before him and Jim linked. He said that he
Speaker 1: had put it on his freestyle. Yeah, with the freestyle
Speaker 1: of clue ironic when you were just speaking about Clue earlier.
Speaker 1: And then so yeah, man, I hope I hope them.
Speaker 1: I hope them. I wish them brothers the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you doing something like that? Because do you
Speaker 1: get involved or do you just like you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't, you can't do nothing about that. You've got
Speaker 4: to respect that.
Speaker 3: You know, relationships are redefined every day, right, you see
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You may start off as a potential
Speaker 3: op with a nigga and end up as an ally
Speaker 3: R like I said, almost right. And then we watched
Speaker 3: Brothers kind of have relationships that deteriorate, and then we
Speaker 3: don't like to see that because we understand how how
Speaker 3: important brotherhood is, you know, But when that is happening,
Speaker 3: you just gotta just step back and just let that be.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because I'm cool with Cam,
Speaker 3: you know, and you know, but first time ever heard
Speaker 3: Cam hm, he was like when it comes to being shot,
Speaker 3: when it comes to me and Jimmy, I'm like me too,
Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying, Like they was they was brothers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that, man, I remember, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1: I would never I would never asked me. I'd have
Speaker 1: never thought this.
Speaker 3: Who I don't think I don't from a hip hop standpoint,
Speaker 3: and in us being from New York, I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody would have foreseen something like that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm r. Because it's like for me, I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to handle it. When Compone and Trash we're
Speaker 1: going through their ship, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: like like me and Trage had went through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, was distney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did disrecords against each other, definitely did yes, yes, definitely,
Speaker 1: but we squashed it. And when we squashed it, him
Speaker 1: and Poone had their ship but they had it like
Speaker 1: it was like between us. So really I understood how
Speaker 1: bad it could have been if one of them would
Speaker 1: have republic. You understand I'm trying to say, like, because
Speaker 1: because public makes it worse. Public makes it worse.
Speaker 3: It makes it worse because now we're planning it out
Speaker 3: in front of the world to see, you know, and
Speaker 3: everybody and it and it.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's pressure when you're you're here.
Speaker 3: If we beefing with each other in public, now I
Speaker 3: gotta especially now I got it because now we get
Speaker 3: to hear what people thinking and see what they they're
Speaker 3: talking about. Now I got to deal with the pressure
Speaker 3: of somebody saying, yo, yourn said, man, yo, you you
Speaker 3: wanna say something back? You out here looking soft, nigga.
Speaker 3: And I feel like a lot of people be succumbing
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: They might not admit it, but they do comments.
Speaker 1: Get getting on your.
Speaker 4: Ass, Stay up the mother fucking comments.
Speaker 1: Is that a pause?
Speaker 3: And I don't do balls, man.
Speaker 1: I can't an't work from me. So what was what
Speaker 1: was it was in pickle juice? It was when when
Speaker 1: you opened up the.
Speaker 4: Relish, that's the jaw of relish. I love relish man
Speaker 4: that's weird. Look I put relish, you put Relish in
Speaker 4: the tunes fish but no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is why I was like, I think, man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because in the marathon they give you pickle juice.
Speaker 1: It's Relish and pickles. Yes, their cousins. Right.
Speaker 3: Basically it's shopped up that stuff.
Speaker 4: Really small pieces of pickle.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's the that's the cheek colde to run more.
Speaker 1: I was like this, you know, I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: Says the cheat code.
Speaker 1: The juice is the cheat code, like in the twenty
Speaker 1: first mile my marathon. Yeah, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just didn't make a guy. The guy gave me
Speaker 1: a pickle.
Speaker 4: I was trolling because I had called academics that jar Relish.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: I said, he built like a he built like a
Speaker 4: jar Relish.
Speaker 3: Ready, yeah, you built like a joh Relaish, You motherfucking
Speaker 3: yoah Relish.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: So I was just trolling. So I had a joll
Speaker 4: job that caught that they knew what it was.
Speaker 1: They knew what it was always right to the marathon.
Speaker 1: Read it my head.
Speaker 4: I was likening with that secret.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Now, I guess when you see me with the jo
Speaker 3: relis now I'm running, man, Why Like.
Speaker 1: You've been through, you survived the streets. It's about the
Speaker 1: toughest part. And when I hear you see something like that,
Speaker 1: like you say, academics, why do you why do you
Speaker 1: indulge back?
Speaker 3: Sometimes if I indulge with you, it's because I feel
Speaker 3: like you're worth it.
Speaker 1: You're worth it, Okay, that's that's real.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, right, it's if I don't say
Speaker 3: nothing back to you, it's it's like it's you a
Speaker 3: piece of ship, and it's like it can't be me
Speaker 3: versus a piece of ship because no matter how, you
Speaker 3: still a piece of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Period, Just me versus a piece of shit, right.
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen. But yeah, with him, it's just
Speaker 3: he just was saying some things and I said something back,
Speaker 3: and you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: It's just that our rhythm man.
Speaker 1: Right, Because because I'm the biggest Floyd mather Weather fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I get mad, like when Floyd take these exhibitions,
Speaker 1: because no matter what on that night, no matter who
Speaker 1: you fight, y'all, on that same level, on the same
Speaker 1: level you know what I mean. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you're ten times above.
Speaker 3: So you're right about that. But I feel like a
Speaker 3: lot of times with the Internet, we're seeing a different
Speaker 3: time right now, right with the things that go on
Speaker 3: on YouTube streaming, and we see like these guys building pages.
Speaker 3: And I ain't talking about academic I'm just saying in general,
Speaker 3: building pages.
Speaker 4: And their whole theme is.
Speaker 3: To just go at artists and go at rappers and
Speaker 3: go at notable people and tear them down right. And
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if what they're saying is fact you
Speaker 3: or anything. It's clickbait. We want to build our pages,
Speaker 3: we want on the minor size. It's content. You see
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So sometimes you're like, man, I gotta,
Speaker 3: I gotta say something back, I gotta.
Speaker 2: That's part of the strategy that you're falling into their clickbait.
Speaker 3: No, because now when you have your own when you
Speaker 3: got your own program and platform, now it's mine, that's real.
Speaker 4: Now you gotta reverse that.
Speaker 3: Fucking fucking because now what what I'm gonna do, Because
Speaker 3: I can't beat you at truth, because the lives more entertaining,
Speaker 3: I can't do with your hand. I can't know how
Speaker 3: like fighting against ghosts nigga like who like who? And
Speaker 3: then we can't beat them with integrity because integrity doesn't
Speaker 3: matter on the internet. Truth and integrity does not matter,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's all about what's entertaining
Speaker 3: and and and you know what what like what makes
Speaker 3: people laugh? And what if I could be saying a
Speaker 3: relationship to you? But if if your jokes is funny
Speaker 3: about me, you got it right?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know? And you resually went back to
Speaker 1: Rightcas Island to talk to the kids. What was that like?
Speaker 3: I tried to do shit on on Recas Islands as
Speaker 3: much as possible. They actually give me my own program.
Speaker 3: I got a six week program. I haven't implemented it
Speaker 3: yet because I'm trying to figure out exactly what I
Speaker 3: want to do. But my heart will always be for
Speaker 3: them young boys, because I was that right, I was
Speaker 3: the young nigga. It's a young thirty four seventy four boy, Okay,
Speaker 3: she's seventy four.
Speaker 1: That's the youngest.
Speaker 4: Yes, let me tell you, Let me tell one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I was.
Speaker 3: I went back to CE seventy four to your same
Speaker 3: cell right. Why I turned eighteen at it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Wow, and it being that's crazy. I was so emotional
Speaker 4: almost let one go.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, like it was because when I certainteen,
Speaker 3: I was in solitary confinement.
Speaker 1: And for those of you know, he's not he's not glorifying,
Speaker 1: he's goorifying where he's at right now in life. That's
Speaker 1: why I came. I want to be clear.
Speaker 3: I turned eighteen years old on on Ryka Island in
Speaker 3: a in a bing in a cell and twenty three
Speaker 3: hour locked in summertime always thirty year.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I want it's just yo. The universe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the universe as well, because that cell happened to
Speaker 3: be unoccupied.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I walked in there and I just was like
Speaker 3: trying to just feel what I felt, right like just
Speaker 3: trying to remember what it felt like to be here,
Speaker 3: to live here and can't get out and not know
Speaker 3: what to do with my rage and not nothing to
Speaker 3: do with all this energy, and I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do with it, right you see? But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: so I try to get him. I try to talk
Speaker 3: to him as much as possible. I try to do
Speaker 3: as much as as I can when it comes to
Speaker 3: you know, what they call at risk youth right and
Speaker 3: ship like that because we was young niggas going to
Speaker 3: spot shit like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Is there any difference in the mentality that
Speaker 2: you see now with the youth than when you was
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to say this in the right way,
Speaker 3: like when I looked at when I look at a
Speaker 3: lot of the young niggas, because I feel like they
Speaker 3: influenced by so many other things that we wasn't. Our
Speaker 3: influence was the need to get money by any means.
Speaker 3: If we got to shoot the shit out of somebody too,
Speaker 3: we get it. We're gonna do it with respect. We're
Speaker 3: gonna die for it. A lot of what they doing
Speaker 3: is based around drug use and shit like that, getting
Speaker 3: high and pilled up and k tuned up and you know,
Speaker 3: in jail smolling K two is just it's more of
Speaker 3: a like a not conscious of what your full activities
Speaker 3: really is. It's like I didn't really commit to these streets.
Speaker 3: I just was influenced by them. I did shit not
Speaker 3: because I felt like doing it or I meant to
Speaker 3: do it. Everything I said I did everything I did
Speaker 3: in my life, I meant to do it. I wasn't
Speaker 3: influenced by drugs. I wasn't influenced by alcohol. I did
Speaker 3: what I had, what I felt like I had to do.
Speaker 3: What I see from them is I feel like the
Speaker 3: influence is like drugs, alcohol, you know, pay pressure, you know,
Speaker 3: being in gangs and like that. I don't feel like
Speaker 3: that's a real commitment. I don't feel like this a
Speaker 3: real commitment to streets. Because you if I say, if
Speaker 3: I put this ship on my back and say I'm
Speaker 3: gonna beat this nigga, I'm gonna be it, that's and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take everything that they come with. So when
Speaker 3: I see them, it's just like it's like a look
Speaker 3: in their eyes that I don't remember seeing when I
Speaker 3: was a young nigga in the same thing yourself and
Speaker 3: these kids or I see myself as far as like
Speaker 3: going through the experience, I feel like when when when
Speaker 3: when we was there, we were more determined on trying
Speaker 3: to get something. And then I was in Rata Island
Speaker 3: when the phones was free. Oh yeah, you know you
Speaker 3: could wear it clothes, you had jews and you had
Speaker 3: to fan for yourself. You couldn't hide behind no gang.
Speaker 3: You had to be who you said you was, right
Speaker 3: you had to actually perform. You couldn't have been Just
Speaker 3: so you know what I'm saying. If you was a
Speaker 3: prisident in jail, reveal who you really are, you could
Speaker 3: have been to shoot him up. Gang bang nigga jail.
Speaker 1: You just you saw.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna see who you're taking your hot rocks.
Speaker 3: Taking your hot rocks, Yeah, taking yours.
Speaker 1: Look at that, look at jail niggas. Understand what I
Speaker 1: was saying. That exactly what's the next for men? Everything? Man?
Speaker 1: Because I know you was acting. Acting is cool. You know.
Speaker 3: I like to act, but I like to I like
Speaker 3: to act in something that I'm producing even more, you see,
Speaker 3: like doing that as a just like being hired just
Speaker 3: to act.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that hustle. Because I heard
Speaker 1: you say one time that he was looking to play
Speaker 1: police officer, Like, yeah, I want to. I want to
Speaker 1: be you wanted to. Yeah, yeah, I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to.
Speaker 4: I want to play a priest in the horror movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait a minute, I wasn't.
Speaker 4: Really I want to. I want to be a.
Speaker 3: Fucking priest in horror movie, like like like like coming here,
Speaker 3: but they call me when I give it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's possessed and I got to come in there
Speaker 4: with my ship on.
Speaker 3: Hats the only niggas I got to beat?
Speaker 1: What do we do? Father?
Speaker 4: Hold on, I got you.
Speaker 1: Hold on. Let me just tell you how everything is
Speaker 1: meant to be so Iced Tea texted me this morning today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he texted me a song. And he made a
Speaker 1: new song. Guess what the name of his song? Hustle hard?
Speaker 1: Really wow? Shut out the.
Speaker 4: Super super Dudley.
Speaker 1: How was the hustle Hard movie? We still hard?
Speaker 4: Of course, hustle hard is more. It's not to me
Speaker 4: and there it's just really life.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 3: What we do when we get up in the morning,
Speaker 3: hustle off and and and don't stop and don't stop.
Speaker 3: You haven't lost a step yet.
Speaker 1: I lost a couple of steps, but it's okay. Come outside.
Speaker 1: I'm outside though a bunch of more.
Speaker 3: You know, just missed a couple of amazing come with
Speaker 3: the journey, coming to journey, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: What's what's the game if you don't miss a couple
Speaker 3: of shots.
Speaker 4: But the thing is you got to stay in the
Speaker 4: game again, That's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And keep that smile, that smile you got to keep smiling.
Speaker 3: A million dollars.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Also one where this was this, this would make me
Speaker 1: nervous one time. Yeah, where you was like, man, every
Speaker 1: time I get something new, I'll go.
Speaker 4: To the hood.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, that was because that was me.
Speaker 1: I understood where that was leading. Yeah, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know if you would have respected my.
Speaker 4: Words, tell me your word.
Speaker 1: No, I would have been like, no, that's not the
Speaker 1: right thing to do.
Speaker 4: Understood, understood.
Speaker 1: Did you learn it's not the right thing to do
Speaker 1: or or you still do that?
Speaker 3: I know I don't do that, okay, because it's no,
Speaker 3: it's no. You can't please niggas like you're too accessible.
Speaker 3: They say, oh, he ain't nobody.
Speaker 1: That's just man. We always on Gates Avenue is nothing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: But when I got things new, the first my first Bentley,
Speaker 3: the first, the first Bentley I ever had was a
Speaker 3: black coupe.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: The first thing I.
Speaker 3: Did driving from from from you know, Long Island, was
Speaker 3: go straight to the hood. You wanted niggas to see
Speaker 3: me in it, not because I wanted to show off,
Speaker 3: because I felt I thought that this was like motivation
Speaker 3: that yeah, that happens, and I thought that I was, like,
Speaker 3: I don't always looked at myself as like motivation, like
Speaker 3: I like from y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I come from the people, so I am
Speaker 1: the people.
Speaker 3: I always looked at myself as that, like I'm not
Speaker 3: above y'all, Like y'all watched me out here suffering and
Speaker 3: struggling with y'all. Y'all, y'all know my story. Y'all know
Speaker 3: I was in jail going through it. Y'all know I wasn't,
Speaker 3: you know, been through all this ship. So it was
Speaker 3: like the first time I got that, it was just
Speaker 3: like a let me go right to the.
Speaker 4: Hood, like you saying, this is what we could do.
Speaker 1: You want to be happy for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if that always translates, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to.
Speaker 3: I had to had to learn that because I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't actually have people that that I that I
Speaker 3: might have respected, really giving me no real game in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: Or people with experience. People with experience.
Speaker 3: You need experience because a nigga in the street that
Speaker 3: never didn't amount to anything can't really tell you right
Speaker 3: because you know you, like, I ain't respecting shit from you,
Speaker 3: So nobody really kind of gave me no real a
Speaker 3: real game, and now I understood. I had to learn
Speaker 3: the hallway about a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: It's funny because even the crackhead and the hood has
Speaker 1: great advice. It's just crackhead. You just don't want to.
Speaker 4: Just look, you know, I look at him. That's something
Speaker 4: that we don't want.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be.
Speaker 3: But he'll still say you some wisdom though, he'll tell
Speaker 3: you something.
Speaker 1: Experience for the streets to be on them corners.
Speaker 4: All that's a fact.
Speaker 1: Okay, you've been in this game when it's the first
Speaker 1: time you've been disappointed. And the people of this industry,
Speaker 1: and I don't mean business, I mean like, because we
Speaker 1: all come into this with a facade that this guy
Speaker 1: is this person, this guy this person, and when wet
Speaker 1: it to meet like I don't want to meet my
Speaker 1: heroes no more. I heard that I don't want to
Speaker 1: meet my heroes no more. Bro Like, like, I'm so
Speaker 1: scared to meet Larry because if he disappoints me. This
Speaker 1: is one of my God, was there ever a time
Speaker 1: you wanted to meet somebody and.
Speaker 3: Just was like, Oh, I think that happens often. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we see people from a far and then
Speaker 3: we have this kind of illusion of who we think
Speaker 3: they are, the idea of who, and then we see
Speaker 3: him it's just like, man, he not who I think
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 4: But the real ship is that, the real shit is that.
Speaker 1: In the reverse, that's you too. Yep. People meet you and.
Speaker 3: Be like, Yo, I thought you was just like this
Speaker 3: angry guy like this fucking just wow, gud, It's like
Speaker 3: you're really cool, like you're funny, Like I would have
Speaker 3: never known you, see what I'm saying. So it kind
Speaker 3: of works in reverse, you know. But I don't have
Speaker 3: high expectations of people, though I did.
Speaker 1: I did? You know I did? I did?
Speaker 3: He started laughing, like, I know you're talking about I know,
Speaker 3: justic the fuck he talking about the high.
Speaker 4: Expectations for niggas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this nigga's a fucking.
Speaker 1: I'm talking But I got years of experience though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my shit is not just like ten years. I got
Speaker 1: like twenty five years of like yo, me being skeptical
Speaker 1: to meet people right, and not only meet them what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Because you can keep up with an act
Speaker 1: for a certain time, but that act is going to
Speaker 1: run out, Like for instance, uh, doctor Dre is exactly
Speaker 1: who I thought he was, Like he's exactly, Like I
Speaker 1: got to spend a whole day with.
Speaker 3: Him, go to his his his his house, a milestone man, his.
Speaker 1: Neighborhood, and like he was exact, and that's this is
Speaker 1: and this is, this is a guy that's a god.
Speaker 1: So like as a guard, you you like you don't
Speaker 1: want you don't want to be let down on the round.
Speaker 1: I came laid a little bit on purpose, just just yeah,
Speaker 1: just just just for me to be like, you know
Speaker 1: you you that nigga to he would have told you,
Speaker 1: I judge people my house, like my like my.
Speaker 3: Dad, anybody, yeah, any any any did not we ever
Speaker 3: tell you how I stuck the gun in.
Speaker 4: The gun in the house in the club for me,
Speaker 4: so I was I was the one doing the it's
Speaker 4: not the gun in the.
Speaker 1: Let me take you tell me. Mano was still fresh
Speaker 1: up the streets and I'm like, nah, were deep in
Speaker 1: there and we're good. He's like, yo, norie, I don't
Speaker 1: go nowhere without the hand and security. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll hold it for it.
Speaker 4: And we're sitting there, I'm sitting in the truck.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah my, nigga, I ain't going.
Speaker 4: To remember that day like yesterday. That's a bad Give
Speaker 4: it to me. I got to hold it, yes, And
Speaker 4: I took the grip in there for me, man.
Speaker 1: And and then you feel safe like yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was like mad, really, but I understand. I understand that
Speaker 1: New York mentality, bro club, It was definitely you know
Speaker 1: you understand that the mentality.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 4: So I asked this question the other day.
Speaker 1: I was just like, it's the streets.
Speaker 4: Is it a physical place or is it in? Is
Speaker 4: it a mentality?
Speaker 1: What are they calling it? Now? They said the streets
Speaker 1: is what?
Speaker 3: So I'm asking is it is it? Is the streets
Speaker 3: a physical place or is it a mentality? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think it's both, man, Yeah, I think we got
Speaker 1: to get shot to that. Yeah, I think it's both
Speaker 1: to I think it's both.
Speaker 4: It's both.
Speaker 3: Okay, But if they gentrifyed that same neighborhood, then.
Speaker 2: What then then you win because of mentality?
Speaker 4: Because of me?
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the thing. Yes, that's real, that's deep.
Speaker 3: I'm from bed Star right, and that's like the like
Speaker 3: a heavily gentrified neighborhood.
Speaker 1: They got Starbucks.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, they got even more than that.
Speaker 1: You got a couple of cappuccinos and all happuccinos, white
Speaker 1: ladies walking with dogs, and humble house and yeah that's
Speaker 1: down in Whims.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah his next neighbor. Yeah yeah, but yeah it's
Speaker 4: it's real.
Speaker 1: We got we got you can still go to for
Speaker 1: Green and get.
Speaker 3: Roll absolutely even in Besting the same block. But you
Speaker 3: got the ladies walking around their poodles and and and
Speaker 3: and fucking shipsuit dogs and they they did what those
Speaker 3: the little sandum.
Speaker 4: Burk and the Burke starts.
Speaker 1: We still don't know if it's good or bad though,
Speaker 1: right because the crime, yeah, economically is bad.
Speaker 3: If the ownership doesn't right in anamo is there don't better,
Speaker 3: But it's good for the I guess the crime maybe right.
Speaker 3: But then we trying to understand what's happening here because it's.
Speaker 4: Like we used to we used to hang out there.
Speaker 4: So they took the same corners that have a.
Speaker 1: Little aquarium at one point it was a little aquarium,
Speaker 1: fisher quarium. Yeah, best didn't know the run it over.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they could be ran over. It was it
Speaker 1: was like made. It was like made.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the personal Maide, that is like family to me.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: It was on Jefferson Jefferson Hompkins. It was a you
Speaker 3: know the Johnny pump is well the hydrant.
Speaker 4: The hydrant he made like a little that attached to it.
Speaker 3: Yet no in the water. He made like this, this
Speaker 3: contraption where it was like real fish in it was.
Speaker 1: The most creative, the most creative ship ever.
Speaker 4: Like and this guy's like family with me, like he
Speaker 4: made this and it was really nice.
Speaker 3: It was they said, Jadakiss came down and have to
Speaker 3: fly over the over the world.
Speaker 4: It was real small, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was dope, like gold fishing there, you understand, gold
Speaker 3: fishing on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1: I was mad as a motherfucker they wrecked. I was like,
Speaker 1: damn niggas, we can't.
Speaker 4: Have nothing shout out the hall.
Speaker 1: Even know you knew him, I don't even know you
Speaker 1: said it.
Speaker 4: Look at that like real goldfish, like the little Nemo fishes.
Speaker 1: Do you think you're Brooklyn, your old school Brooklyn? Did
Speaker 1: you ever think that there's a Brooklyn whatever exists.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think I would make it to this Brooklyn. Wow,
Speaker 3: i'ma be honest with you. I never looked. I never
Speaker 3: thought like I'm gonna live to be. I never thought
Speaker 3: in terms of that, right, but just being hunted with you,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you even got a main oda yeah
Speaker 1: noa like in my neighborhood that I brought that that's
Speaker 1: sucking something like that. It's a major Okay, how did
Speaker 1: that come about?
Speaker 3: So I was I was doing things for my neighborhood
Speaker 3: without so called broadcasting, and I was like always doing
Speaker 3: like coat drives and coming to the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: With Macy's and something like that.
Speaker 3: Right, So Macy's used to give me like sixty thousand
Speaker 3: dollars for coats. They'd be like forty between forty and
Speaker 3: sixty thousand dollars worth of coasts every year, and I
Speaker 3: would take those coats. There was brand new coats, but
Speaker 3: it was like the inventary and I shout out to
Speaker 3: Bless because he didn't want to patch me in with that.
Speaker 3: And what happened was I would take those coats and
Speaker 3: bring them to my neighborhoods. There was there was like females,
Speaker 3: young kids and women's coats, and I would give them
Speaker 3: out mostly like every year, and I would like try
Speaker 3: to do as much as I could for my for
Speaker 3: my neighborhood.
Speaker 4: And then I got approached about having a day in
Speaker 4: my name.
Speaker 3: It's like that was that was That was different because
Speaker 3: I only thought niggas you had to die to get
Speaker 3: a day or your name on the streets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be gone to get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what what does main old day consist of?
Speaker 4: So mayn o days?
Speaker 3: So when I asked him, I said, listen, you're gonna
Speaker 3: give me this day. It's going to be like, what
Speaker 3: is it? I'm trying to understand. It was like the
Speaker 3: the Brooklyn Borough president, We're gonna give this day to
Speaker 3: Maino and it's going to be this day of service.
Speaker 3: And I'm listening to him talk and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: all right, I know what to do. First thing. First,
Speaker 3: I want to I want to make the day my
Speaker 3: mother's birthday. Oh okay, she rest in peace.
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want to have it.
Speaker 3: I want to celebrate her birthday at the same time,
Speaker 3: but I want to do something for the that wasn't
Speaker 3: done for us.
Speaker 4: Let me block off two city blocks. Can I do that?
Speaker 4: I had this vision.
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to block off two city
Speaker 3: blocks and I want to on one end, I want
Speaker 3: to have a stage for the local artists.
Speaker 4: On the other end, I want to have all these
Speaker 4: functions for.
Speaker 3: Kids, rides, bouncy houses, trucks, ice cream, food trusts, all that.
Speaker 4: And in the middle, I.
Speaker 3: Wanted to be festival style, like with like vendors giving
Speaker 3: away things. I want to sell nothing to the hook,
Speaker 3: right and my vision. We did that two years, two
Speaker 3: years in a row.
Speaker 1: We did that.
Speaker 3: It's it's no violence, it's lit. I'm talking about it's huge.
Speaker 3: Like I was watching, I was like going around looking
Speaker 3: at what Spike Lee been doing, because Spike Lee does
Speaker 3: something in bed Start too every year, big block party
Speaker 3: for do the right thing good.
Speaker 4: So I was like looking at what he was doing.
Speaker 4: I was like, I see it. So I got two
Speaker 4: city blocks.
Speaker 3: I'm going for three this year, right, my permit, and
Speaker 3: really make this it's a festival style. I had mothers
Speaker 3: come to me and say thank you because I couldn't
Speaker 3: afford to take my kid to an amusement park. All right,
Speaker 3: great adventions and ship like that, and you out here
Speaker 3: bringing rides, you out here doing that, so thank you,
Speaker 3: you know, and we're giving away book bags, sneakers, shirts,
Speaker 3: giving I got healthcare out there shout out the Metro
Speaker 3: Plus coming out there signing people up for healthcare. You know,
Speaker 3: I just trying to like give back at the same time.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right.
Speaker 1: You you ever thought you would have?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely not a lie.
Speaker 1: Real Okay, So we've got things for the kids, we
Speaker 1: got things for the.
Speaker 4: Local artists, things artists families.
Speaker 1: And then where's the after party at scarlets?
Speaker 4: Possibly possibly starlist possibly.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: In a minute, it's always. I mean, I like that,
Speaker 4: have a good time.
Speaker 1: You like strip clubs?
Speaker 4: A lie? I told you I lost the rolling right
Speaker 4: I was. It was home to Milly's to.
Speaker 1: You said you ain't you do the extra one? It
Speaker 1: was a mission in that night.
Speaker 3: Oh I know about the about the I wanted that
Speaker 3: mission that night.
Speaker 1: You have me different.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, no, but I lost it. I
Speaker 4: lost it on the comeback.
Speaker 1: Like I woke up.
Speaker 3: It was gone.
Speaker 4: Like the girl that was the room with me, she
Speaker 4: was gone, Yeah, she was going. The watch was gone.
Speaker 4: You know, I learned my lesson. Yeah, you got this.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you take bumps and bruises on the journey.
Speaker 1: For sure. You know we're still here. Say what?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, she was gone, nigga. I woke up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gone one thirty two in the morning.
Speaker 3: I'm going out of here, only gone.
Speaker 1: We've seen you on Love of Hip Hop? Are you
Speaker 1: actually because did we heard you say you're getting married
Speaker 1: on the radio? Is this actually? I want to get married?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: I believe you.
Speaker 4: It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I believe you.
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. I'm gonna set the date first, though.
Speaker 1: Oh, you ain't even set the date. My information is wrong.
Speaker 3: So last year, last year, you gotta understand what's happening.
Speaker 1: Understand me. Okay, I'm here.
Speaker 4: Last year I set a date or you did set
Speaker 4: a date for you twenty six?
Speaker 1: Okay. I went.
Speaker 3: To Robbie Suits and picked out a TUXI though. Okay,
Speaker 3: I went and sat with a wedding planner. Okay, I
Speaker 3: went to Masa and picked out a ring. I did
Speaker 3: all this before I even had a wedding or like
Speaker 3: a like a like a like a.
Speaker 1: Bride to be.
Speaker 4: Damn, I did that first, and that's how I want
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a You're gonna set up the party
Speaker 3: and then bring I'm gonna set it up and then
Speaker 3: all she got to do is show up. Yeah, i'na ma,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make my life, not just anybody. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make my life easier. And if need be, I'll have
Speaker 3: what what what the bridesmaids already there for you.
Speaker 1: You got pre picked base.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never heard all my own girls.
Speaker 1: This might be. This might be the most genius ship
Speaker 1: I've ever heard.
Speaker 3: Keep yeah, yeah, this is this is a reality show myself.
Speaker 3: He sounds nothing is impossible. My brother believe that, trust me.
Speaker 3: So he could be the person that marries you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you appreciate We're.
Speaker 4: Gonna get preaching in his mind? Who else is the preacher?
Speaker 1: You get to do it?
Speaker 4: Who else?
Speaker 1: I feel like ray j is a preacher too. Mace
Speaker 1: may definitely can do it. And we got one more
Speaker 1: daddy Yankee. I think, oh yeah, she's a preacher. I
Speaker 1: just think Christian. Just roll with it, man, if you're
Speaker 1: a Christian, you appreciate it. Just roll with it.
Speaker 4: Christian appreachier.
Speaker 1: You can do it. You've got the good book. You
Speaker 1: can do it straight up, if you believe you can
Speaker 1: do it. So, oh man, that's who I was looking
Speaker 1: for now. He's yes, if you.
Speaker 4: If you believe in the law. You can preach he
Speaker 4: married a preacher.
Speaker 1: No, he married pusher married he.
Speaker 4: He got he married.
Speaker 1: Got just sounded crazy at my at my wedding, I'm
Speaker 1: appreciately gonna fly fly down. Oh like.
Speaker 5: So like.
Speaker 2: That man.
Speaker 1: Character, you're gonna fly down with Louis Vuitton on and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I need one of them niggas.
Speaker 1: So you really got a wedding plan.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna replant it because I didn't make it this
Speaker 3: July twenty six, that was last year. So I'm announce
Speaker 3: a new date for this year.
Speaker 1: But you have a woman? Correct?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he's announcing the show without there's no woman. Okay.
Speaker 1: So because I heard they say, like, that's what they say,
Speaker 1: and that's why they say at the weddings, and this
Speaker 1: this woman because it could be anybody, like or they
Speaker 1: say this loyal methic man because they have to tuxtedos
Speaker 1: for anybody to go in there. Like I never heard
Speaker 1: of this, Like how you.
Speaker 4: This is different.
Speaker 1: It's different. It's different. This is different. Who will be
Speaker 1: your best man at your wedding?
Speaker 4: I'll have a couple, a couple, a few best men.
Speaker 1: We have some rappers and regulars. Let's name.
Speaker 4: We gotta do ship out of the box.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: We can't do the same thing over and over.
Speaker 3: Man. So I have a two A couple of homies.
Speaker 4: Lobby boys. Yeah, lobby boys.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 4: Let's drink to that drink that Okay, definitely it would
Speaker 4: be fab Okay, Jim, okay, okay, yep?
Speaker 1: Why not? Guy? What what?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What Uncle Murder make your wedding party? Uncle Murder?
Speaker 4: I love Uncle Murder.
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no.
Speaker 4: I love Uncle Murder.
Speaker 1: Many.
Speaker 4: I love Uncle Murder.
Speaker 3: That's my brother. I love home mur We started this
Speaker 3: ship together. Restect that we started this ship together. Like
Speaker 3: it it's main o Uncle Murder records that go all
Speaker 3: the way back.
Speaker 4: To two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was main old Uncle Murder. Oppon and Noriega
Speaker 3: pound like yellow tape is classic, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But I just think, you know, circumstances and time. I
Speaker 3: don't want I don't want to say redefine our relationship
Speaker 3: because I still feel like because me and that we
Speaker 3: never even had an argument.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 4: I still feel like the respect is there. But you know,
Speaker 4: he with fifty and you understand what being with fifty.
Speaker 3: He requires loyalty, he requires a like the sense of
Speaker 3: loyalsy like nigga, you bet not. But you know he
Speaker 3: is different. You know at this point right now, we
Speaker 3: I don't think what we got with fifty is serious.
Speaker 3: I think that that's just for him. It's definitely. I
Speaker 3: think he's somewhere like laughing at the same time fifty
Speaker 3: when he like throwing little shots at niggas or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I think for murder.
Speaker 5: His this is what.
Speaker 1: Changed his life and that has to be respected. So
Speaker 1: it is what it is.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I hope I hope y'all get it
Speaker 1: together to like no, no, we don't have no no.
Speaker 1: I love y'all together. Like if there's another album that
Speaker 1: could be made, y'all say, yeah, I would.
Speaker 3: I would like to hear it, bro, But I don't
Speaker 3: know if that I don't know in the climate if
Speaker 3: that could actually happen. You know what I mean. If
Speaker 3: we talked about loyalty, and we talked about picking our sides,
Speaker 3: and it's understandable when size are picked. I don't have
Speaker 3: no problem with the nigga that picked his side. I
Speaker 3: understand that I respect it, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I had a relationship with fifty.
Speaker 1: We were super cool because he has something to do
Speaker 1: with putting you on as well.
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, absolutely, I was signed online. I was signing
Speaker 3: a university. We talked about that.
Speaker 1: We talked about that. The universalis dropped me. I was
Speaker 1: back in the hook, back in the hood.
Speaker 3: I was at Ryo House on mon Road between No
Speaker 3: Shit and Massy and his basement, recording records.
Speaker 4: In the hood.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it out. Fifty at that point
Speaker 3: had a relationship with my brother eighty eighty called me
Speaker 3: and said, look, I'm up here. I'm in I'm in
Speaker 3: fifty office with him right now. We're kicking it. Next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, and within an hour, I'm getting phone calls
Speaker 3: from Atlanta. Yo, you got a meeting. Yeah, they called
Speaker 3: me from Atlantic, got a meeting. They want me up
Speaker 3: at Atlantic. What happened was Fifty asked him to say, Yo,
Speaker 3: what y'all doing? Like you know what I mean, He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, we were talking to Atlantic because I had
Speaker 3: at that point, once I got dropped to the Universe
Speaker 3: from University, we was in.
Speaker 1: Talks with Atlantic. Yeah, but you know how them talk.
Speaker 1: So and let me ask you what regime is that
Speaker 1: in the land. Is that Craig Cowman, Is that Julie
Speaker 1: greenwalk like or that's just it's Craig Cawman. But all
Speaker 1: those people together, okay, okay together the old depth jam
Speaker 1: coming over?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, seven okay. Fifty said to my brother a, Yo,
Speaker 3: you want me to call over there? Yeah, they talking,
Speaker 3: but they act like they won't do something and did
Speaker 3: it yet?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: They called over there.
Speaker 4: And tell them? Yo, let me speak to Craig. Get
Speaker 4: Craig on the phone.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: Look what you're doing with manow Yeah you know we're talking.
Speaker 3: Listen if you if I could do it, I would
Speaker 3: do it. He's got their movement. Yeah, that's the niggas.
Speaker 4: Hung their phone up.
Speaker 3: There was on my line. By the time they hung
Speaker 3: their phone up, I was I was getting called into
Speaker 3: a meeting. That's how powerful he was influence you.
Speaker 1: He was so for me.
Speaker 4: I always had a when it came to that.
Speaker 3: That's real, right, I'm a nigga that I ain't. I
Speaker 3: don't never forget that type of shit now, mind you, Right,
Speaker 3: I got people upset about the relationship that me and
Speaker 3: him building at that time. At that time, my son
Speaker 3: his mother, right, his mother is upset about that because
Speaker 3: her brother is the person.
Speaker 1: That they blamed for shooting him. Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you talk about Homo, that's my son's uncle.
Speaker 3: My son's name Zaine Daryl Coleman. Darl was his name.
Speaker 1: I never met him though, so I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel the.
Speaker 3: Like a like a like a connection to that. Like
Speaker 3: I just felt like that was the circumstances. And you know,
Speaker 3: and out of respect, I get it that that's the family,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But the relationship that me
Speaker 3: and him was building, you know, I was it was
Speaker 3: like what, like, nigga, you helped me? So I never
Speaker 3: I never forgot that, you see what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: that was something that I always kept with me like
Speaker 3: this nigga that and I never and that's all you
Speaker 3: got to do for a nigga like me. I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not asking for no song, I'm not asking for
Speaker 3: nothing else that you did enough, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so, and even still.
Speaker 3: With the relationship that me and him was building at
Speaker 3: that time, I still was hearing shit like oh how
Speaker 3: could you you know, be it you know, fuck with
Speaker 3: somebody that you know, your your son's family and I
Speaker 3: didn't you know, I didn't.
Speaker 4: Get it, but you know what it was, what it was,
Speaker 4: that's a crazy connection, man, right.
Speaker 1: And then what did T I have to do? I
Speaker 1: know we spoke about it earlier. What did T I
Speaker 1: have to do at the beginning of your career?
Speaker 2: Was that?
Speaker 1: What did he come in in Atlantic? Chip?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chip was definitely helpful. Chip wanted to sign me
Speaker 3: the Grand Hustle. That didn't actually work out, So I
Speaker 3: never fully signed the Grand Hustle, but I was that was.
Speaker 1: The time they had the big dude but on country
Speaker 1: can yeah.
Speaker 4: Country shout out the country can Country can Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I never I never signed to Groundhustle. We talked about it.
Speaker 3: We were trying to figure out what that was. Because
Speaker 3: what happened was Atlantic was signing me direct, you know,
Speaker 3: And sometimes I think like, maybe, like if you were
Speaker 3: have did it T I didn't had to be through him,
Speaker 3: And you're saying.
Speaker 4: Right, right, they were signing me direct.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was a better bet. I'm trying to say, like,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not it's not. No, it was no,
Speaker 1: it was no cut, it was no cutting. It was us.
Speaker 4: It was hustle hard directly with the line.
Speaker 1: Right now, you you recently had a picture with Jay
Speaker 1: right and it looked like you was relieved for some reason.
Speaker 1: It looked like he was like, yo, man, I follow you.
Speaker 1: I felt like, this is me speculating. I felt like
Speaker 1: you had to tell him something at that very moment.
Speaker 1: And after that moment was the picture. Now I'm speculating.
Speaker 4: But told me he watched the show. This is when
Speaker 4: Kitchen Talk was out.
Speaker 1: Okay. I was surprised about that, right, I was. He
Speaker 1: watches everything.
Speaker 3: I was super surprised. M So that's that what that
Speaker 3: moment was like he was telling me, oh, man, I
Speaker 3: watched the show. Like I'm like, what you watched everything?
Speaker 1: You watched me?
Speaker 7: Nigga?
Speaker 4: You know, I mean this is a whole you know,
Speaker 4: we we we look at hold with a certain lens.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: But what happened?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Why was the even of discrepancy? Did you wasn't It
Speaker 1: wasn't just rumors? What did you say about hole?
Speaker 3: You gotta know that when I came in a game,
Speaker 3: I came in a game with a lot.
Speaker 1: Of like yeah, like still the wool lines like you
Speaker 1: want somebody to say whoo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like talking crazy, you know, saying ship that not
Speaker 3: having somebody school me to the game.
Speaker 1: You see, the thing is.
Speaker 3: My perception the game was at that point was getting
Speaker 3: out of prison. I'm telling my niggas, Yo, we really
Speaker 3: who we say we are, We really involved with the
Speaker 3: ship that were involved with these.
Speaker 1: Niggas is just acting. We can be that we can
Speaker 1: we can we can show the world.
Speaker 3: And I had this perception of like we're gonna show them,
Speaker 3: We're gonna out tough these niggas and out real them, right,
Speaker 3: like show the world like they not who they are
Speaker 3: and we're the genuine article. And that was that was
Speaker 3: the the most primitive thought ever because it's really dumb.
Speaker 1: Do you think if that line would nick came out,
Speaker 1: you guys would embrace each other. Which line like I
Speaker 1: couldn't saying you like taking a shot at jail or whatever.
Speaker 3: Because I said mad Ship, Okay, I said ship about
Speaker 3: Jim Jones the whole song wollams Her j was a
Speaker 3: scary dude and all this ship like we're talking about
Speaker 3: Like I literally went to Massie and ship. They was like, yo,
Speaker 3: he don't come to Massie And I'm listening to this
Speaker 3: dumb ship. He don't come to Massie.
Speaker 2: You know, we said that's equivalent to the fifties rock Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, which which kind of inspired me, right of course,
Speaker 3: let's keep it real, and.
Speaker 1: Which is inspired by Biggie's sucking the R and B bit.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But he was just talking about R and B
Speaker 4: and I'm just talking about the.
Speaker 2: So so.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Ship, I'm shooting videos because what what we're
Speaker 3: trying to do. We're trying to get attention, right, right,
Speaker 3: So they would call that trolling now right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I seen a nigga say, yo, man, no, you came
Speaker 4: into game trolling while you mad at.
Speaker 1: Me somebody else. I said, you're right, somebody else trolling you.
Speaker 1: So were you admitted to it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because you know what, because when you when you feel
Speaker 3: like there's no other options, you do what you feel like.
Speaker 4: You got to survival.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My very first record, l A l A's just arguably
Speaker 4: one of the biggest.
Speaker 1: L one of the true we're just supposed to agree
Speaker 1: like that, but arguably one of the very first troll
Speaker 1: records because we had never even been to l A.
Speaker 1: Like we we ain't leave Jamaica Avenue let alone Jamaica
Speaker 1: like we were. We didn't even know what l A
Speaker 1: smelled like, been on.
Speaker 4: The planet for twenty five years, like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: So we made l A and we never even knew
Speaker 1: a kind of like we were talking about and I
Speaker 1: tell you this, I'll.
Speaker 2: Tell you this, but you didn't go hard.
Speaker 1: We didn't because it's the hook. But I'm agreeing with him.
Speaker 1: I'm saying like that was that, that was that attention,
Speaker 1: like real quick, and we got it real quick, and
Speaker 1: the New York big had our back.
Speaker 3: When you feel like you ain't got no other options,
Speaker 3: well hold up.
Speaker 4: Sorry to country, but Tim Dogs the first fu content.
Speaker 4: Oh ship, that's the fun.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: Shout him.
Speaker 3: Got Tim dog rest. Yeah he died, Tim Dogg died,
Speaker 3: did Yeah. I gotta stop the ship, y'all going back there.
Speaker 3: You gotta be honest, you just.
Speaker 4: We're gonna.
Speaker 1: John think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tim Doll died. Oh see, this is how fucked
Speaker 4: up our world is.
Speaker 2: Someone knows the fact out. I agree with the fact
Speaker 2: that someone said, no, that's not a fact, and we
Speaker 2: all fucked us in real life.
Speaker 3: Was really fucked up is that we didn't know he passed. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember when God bless him.
Speaker 1: As crazy as I was doing mad restart showing you right,
Speaker 1: and I went online, I've seen an interview from you
Speaker 1: from six years ago. Interview for you six years ago.
Speaker 1: It was envy was y'all was playing around, but it
Speaker 1: was like he kind of kept bringing up like street share,
Speaker 1: street street ship. But I'm not gonna say that that part.
Speaker 1: The part that intrigued me was like, you start talking
Speaker 1: about Nipsey Hustle, and I believe your words was man
Speaker 1: that if that shit could happen to Nipsey Hustle, Uh,
Speaker 1: it could happen. You know, do you think that was
Speaker 1: a mistake for Nipsey going back to the hood?
Speaker 4: Is was it a mistake for him to be back?
Speaker 1: I mean for him to be invested in the hood
Speaker 1: like that now just wanted It's like like you just said, right,
Speaker 1: you said you gave coach back to the hood.
Speaker 3: You got this main old day, like, but I still
Speaker 3: go do things though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I know that I'm asking this particular
Speaker 1: because you know, we actually got a run with Nipsey
Speaker 1: Hustle's brother, Black Sam and Marathon. I'm doing it February
Speaker 1: twenty first in LA You know, what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: this is something I'm asking you as a as as
Speaker 1: a as a as an East Coaster, as a federal legend,
Speaker 1: do you think that that was a mistake for Nipsey
Speaker 1: invested into the hood? What I mean by investing, I
Speaker 1: mean his time and I mean the actual star like
Speaker 1: having it there.
Speaker 3: We only will say that in hindsight, mm hmm. We
Speaker 3: only we only will say that because of what happened.
Speaker 3: If had that not happened, we would be like, yo,
Speaker 3: he a real nigga.
Speaker 4: We would salute him for what he's doing. We would
Speaker 4: commend him for that.
Speaker 3: You know, we will be like, yo, he's he's in
Speaker 3: the community, he's giving back to the community. He cares
Speaker 3: about the community. So I don't I can't say that
Speaker 3: that was a mistake. I feel like that that was
Speaker 3: a that was an incident that reminds you that what
Speaker 3: could happen because it's accessible, right when you're so accessible
Speaker 3: and the mentality of of of the hood, you know,
Speaker 3: can you.
Speaker 4: Can you blame the community? Straight up?
Speaker 2: I think that you can possibly happen if he invested
Speaker 2: somewhere else, the will it'll.
Speaker 3: Follow you any We can't blame the community, especially because
Speaker 3: generally speaking, he was loved.
Speaker 4: Right, generally speaking, I'm loved in my community.
Speaker 1: Like so the issue could go anywhere, but you have
Speaker 1: you got that one person.
Speaker 4: You got those one those two people that.
Speaker 3: So upset with their lives, so upset with the what
Speaker 3: they see in the mirror, that they hate you more
Speaker 3: than they hate their situation. Right, they would, they they
Speaker 3: would spend more time, you know, on on on how
Speaker 3: to you off, then put energy into fixing that situation.
Speaker 2: But my question is this, if had he done the
Speaker 2: same thing in Santa Monica and then and people knew
Speaker 2: he was there daily, might not.
Speaker 1: The same thing?
Speaker 3: Right, Right, what you're saying is right, anything happened anywhere,
Speaker 3: you can't blame you can't blanket blame their community as
Speaker 3: a whole, because when it.
Speaker 1: Goes back to what we said earlier, cut you off.
Speaker 1: But the streets is.
Speaker 3: Because the most let's think about the streets, Let's think
Speaker 3: about our ghettos. The majority of our ghettos are filled
Speaker 3: with working class families that that don't adhere to street rules.
Speaker 3: Those mothers, those fathers that get up so right right
Speaker 3: and to work, get on the train, get on the
Speaker 3: bus to.
Speaker 4: Go to work, right, they got kids.
Speaker 3: They not part of the streets. The streets is a
Speaker 3: small community of people that come from there, right, that
Speaker 3: kind of delve into a certain lifestyle. Everybody that's from
Speaker 3: your project, So your block wasn't into the shit that.
Speaker 1: You was doing.
Speaker 3: It was a small portion of people. When you think
Speaker 3: about the largest scheme of things, everybody is not like,
Speaker 3: come on, think about your building. How many people in
Speaker 3: your building really was selling drugs?
Speaker 4: Not even half.
Speaker 3: How many people in your building was really shooting shit,
Speaker 3: not even half, not even half everybody. You know, drugs
Speaker 3: affected a lot of our families, but everybody didn't fall victim.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: You get older, you understart to understand that it's a
Speaker 3: little of the mentality.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, I used to go to church
Speaker 1: in forty projects, right, and I used to meet with
Speaker 1: these women. I mean, like you know, the churchwoman, a
Speaker 1: church woman, and they used to go back to forty projects.
Speaker 1: They never knew they lived in the hood at all, right,
Speaker 1: people carrying their bags, like you know, they grocery bags.
Speaker 1: So these ladies was like they never.
Speaker 3: Looked at it, like they were in understanding. Because when
Speaker 3: you don't have anything to measure it against. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: don't have nothing to compare it to. If you lived
Speaker 3: in dark all this time and never seeing light, you
Speaker 3: would figure out how to make the best of the dark.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't have nothing to compare it to.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be like, oh my god, it's light.
Speaker 3: You don't know light.
Speaker 4: All you know is the dog.
Speaker 3: So the pain that comes from being in an impolished
Speaker 3: neighborhood doesn't start to feel like pain unless you have
Speaker 3: something something to compare it to.
Speaker 1: Let's go to a couple of your records. Let's go
Speaker 1: through some more.
Speaker 2: Damn that did look good, bro, looked crazy. I pictured
Speaker 2: some little last day.
Speaker 1: This was, Yeah, I was happy. People are flying in
Speaker 1: for all over there.
Speaker 4: That was It was like a wait, so how did
Speaker 4: it get destroyed?
Speaker 1: I think someone backed up into it, like May Odd
Speaker 1: with cool herks.
Speaker 4: That I minished something that I never admitted.
Speaker 1: You have to figure do you do work on drink Chat?
Speaker 1: And I hope you come and you got to get
Speaker 1: him a new school and all man, okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: remember my name. Yeah, gotta be one of your hardest. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had like fighters that come out to that make
Speaker 3: me remember money, Damn.
Speaker 1: I ain't thinking of that. That is a fighting song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta put that on a run camp ship. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah inspiration. So where was you that men? Mentally?
Speaker 4: First album?
Speaker 1: Man, you know, I'm not not glazing you, but let
Speaker 1: me let you know how hard your first album is.
Speaker 1: I was high when I downloaded it. I downloaded the
Speaker 1: clean version and never knew, like, just kept playing and
Speaker 1: then I played it like in a barber somewhere and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you got the clean version. I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even know. That's how hard. I
Speaker 1: was so satisfied. I was very very from where you come.
Speaker 1: And then listening to that, that was That's one of
Speaker 1: a perfect album.
Speaker 3: First album was with they say, you spend your lifetime
Speaker 3: making your first album, as they say, because you're talking
Speaker 3: about your truth, your energy, your life and all that,
Speaker 3: your childhood, you know, turning into an adult, whatever you've
Speaker 3: been through in that time. And then you make your
Speaker 3: first album and after that everything else else. After that
Speaker 3: you're trying to figure it out, like a crack the
Speaker 3: first high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they keep chasing. That's absolute, absolutely yeah. So so
Speaker 1: remember my name, what's your mentality? Where you at what
Speaker 1: studio you.
Speaker 3: At I'm in, I'm in, I mean blast off studio.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a pause.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sounds like a pause, but it sounds.
Speaker 4: Like blast off studios.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't want to ask.
Speaker 4: That's at yeah Times Square.
Speaker 3: You know, and and you know it's at that at
Speaker 3: that point, like I felt like I had to point
Speaker 3: to pool musically, like I'm trying to come with the
Speaker 3: streets shipped and energy pains, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and and and but trying to paint a picture, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh Now, in the Tupac movie, Tupac movie, you play
Speaker 1: the names that kid Tupac. Yeah, yeah, weird, like when
Speaker 1: you go on the West Coast, Like.
Speaker 4: You know, how many people I don't funk with you?
Speaker 4: As you shot too?
Speaker 1: I'm like, is a movie? Yeah?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: People was mad behind that shot, you know, like, I
Speaker 3: really don't Did you shoot him?
Speaker 1: On you? I shot him in the movie?
Speaker 4: Sounds crazy? I did shoot him in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I shot too, Yeah, so I shot Come on, man,
Speaker 4: I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: I shot to B in the movie.
Speaker 4: In the movie.
Speaker 1: But your pause is wild, all right, Hold hold on.
Speaker 4: I shot to pop shot in the movie. I shot
Speaker 4: too in the movie shot. It was the movie though.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to ask you that because, like Park
Speaker 1: is not a regular dude like now you have. If
Speaker 1: you're a Park fan, you're like a Trump supporter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get you away hard, yeah, die hard.
Speaker 3: Yes, fanatic niggas in my comments, Listen, I stopped working
Speaker 3: with you ever since I seen you shoot Tupac. What
Speaker 3: you what You can't even be mad at that? It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you do know it was just a light wee. You
Speaker 3: couldn't when the movie came out. You know, I just
Speaker 3: had a little part, right.
Speaker 1: You think this is a rat video? You think this
Speaker 1: is a rat video.
Speaker 4: We told you, nigga, to let it down, right.
Speaker 3: I rented a whole movie theater, oh theater, whole theater,
Speaker 3: like the whole the whole room, like seventy two hundred whatever.
Speaker 3: The sease was rented it out, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: just for that part. You know, had the whole boss
Speaker 3: set up like it was crazy, you know, go, yeah,
Speaker 3: we had to overdo it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. The problem with that, that's not it's
Speaker 1: not a problem with that scene, but that scene is
Speaker 1: it's real good dudes, this is Brooklyn, dudes in there
Speaker 1: was you ever skeptical.
Speaker 4: Studio shooting that?
Speaker 1: Yes, what shooting? You thought?
Speaker 4: In my mind right now, they never depicted that. They
Speaker 4: never depicted what that looked like.
Speaker 1: Right, So all right, because obviously Bennie Boom is.
Speaker 4: The director out to Benny Boom, Bennie Boom is.
Speaker 1: Actually a New York director, received slack off top from everyone.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, man, yeah, I think he's from Brooklyn, right,
Speaker 1: I believe he is. And then he actually hires real
Speaker 1: Brooklyn dudes to play the bad Brooklyn guy roll like
Speaker 1: did you read that, and be like, wait a minute, yeah.
Speaker 4: How this happened?
Speaker 2: Listen?
Speaker 3: I was in the zone. I was in the zone
Speaker 3: so hard that the nigga that looked like the nigga
Speaker 3: play like that played it pop.
Speaker 4: I was asking him, was he okay, am I hurting you,
Speaker 4: my nigga?
Speaker 3: Because Boom told me to just be your natural self.
Speaker 3: I was in that position and I was losing it.
Speaker 3: The ship that I'm saying, you go back and listen
Speaker 3: to that movie. Everything that I'm saying in that movie,
Speaker 3: none of it was in the script.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you think this is a rap video, nigga?
Speaker 4: You know what happened to rappers that think this is
Speaker 4: a fucking video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was crazy, Like it was crazy. I was.
Speaker 3: I was someone else and I remember like, like, you're okay, bro,
Speaker 3: because I was. I felt like I was a method actor.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was on a set with the with the grip
Speaker 4: the whole time, like he was ready.
Speaker 1: For those of that don't know what the method actor
Speaker 1: is as a person who stays in character the whole yea,
Speaker 1: they go on the set, not break character. They tell
Speaker 1: you if his if his name was Matt Joy, they say,
Speaker 1: you got to call him, you got to call him
Speaker 1: the character. Character.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Act For those that don't know, And so now you
Speaker 1: went to the movie the that this comes out, what
Speaker 1: is the reaction besides these guys on Twitter like is this?
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, people gonna let assume my come Like.
Speaker 3: My mom's mad. She resid sitting right next to me
Speaker 3: in front of the movie even though it's ultra violet.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, You know your mom's gonna
Speaker 3: root for you regardless.
Speaker 1: I bet my mom to the movie there that when
Speaker 1: I was smashing in the movie, I forgot Christmas.
Speaker 4: I was mad.
Speaker 1: I was mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, for good, I.
Speaker 1: Got this smart and I'm gonna looking and my mom's
Speaker 1: like the whole movie the same way.
Speaker 3: But so.
Speaker 1: I know we spoke about it earlier with the acting,
Speaker 1: But is that something and I know you said you
Speaker 1: like producing more? Yeah, but is that something you're gonna
Speaker 1: you would.
Speaker 3: Like to pursue acting or they want to produce?
Speaker 2: Ye?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know about about you definitely right.
Speaker 4: Don't want to step outside of you as a.
Speaker 3: Step outside of what people think they generally know about me,
Speaker 3: think you know, just going or like the gangster role.
Speaker 4: You know, the acting is like it's a lot of
Speaker 4: work mm hmm, and it takes up a lot of time.
Speaker 1: So it's like I.
Speaker 3: Want to be involved with the think tank. Let's figure
Speaker 3: out this movie. Let's you know, let's sit down, let's
Speaker 3: write it out. Got how to produce, Let's figure ou
Speaker 3: how to get it funded. I'm I'm more or less
Speaker 3: in that space than it is to me just pursuing acting,
Speaker 3: me getting an Asian and just going, you know, reading
Speaker 3: for roles. I don't want to just do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, agent Asian, I think you're going to get an Asian.
Speaker 3: I want to get Asian for that, definitely, not for
Speaker 3: that asient.
Speaker 1: Didn't you have a show called Star Tenders.
Speaker 3: Or I did it.
Speaker 4: I did a documentary like a.
Speaker 1: Porn it's like about the something against.
Speaker 4: Something against porn.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was like about the bartender.
Speaker 4: That's a question, you know, like p I'm good the
Speaker 4: poor capital of the world, all right, cool Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah they don't. They blocked you porn.
Speaker 2: Everybody here work for a porn company and one point
Speaker 2: or at least my only fans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so so so the documentary so that I did
Speaker 4: a documentary is called.
Speaker 3: A dill out of Time, a doll out of time,
Speaker 3: and it's it's about the strip club culture in New
Speaker 3: York City or how people coming to the strip clubs
Speaker 3: in New York City. They ain't coming to see the dancer.
Speaker 3: They come to see the bartender.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's all little secret though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it's about that I share. It's
Speaker 3: about how like I produced that. Okay, shout out to
Speaker 3: my man Jay J. Rober Rodriguez because he's, you know,
Speaker 3: mastermind that with me, people come to the strip club
Speaker 3: in New York to see the popping star tender or
Speaker 3: bartender or whatever. Our city is a little bit different.
Speaker 3: They're not coming really so much for the dancers. It's
Speaker 3: about that lit bartender.
Speaker 1: What makes her lit?
Speaker 4: Though the following what I'm saying is that the drinks.
Speaker 3: It's her, it's her, it's her, it's You got lit
Speaker 3: bartenders in New York City that people, It's like they
Speaker 3: have a certain order about themselves.
Speaker 1: That people. Yeah, it's a real thing. It's a real thing.
Speaker 3: When you think about Starlet's Starlis is a a is
Speaker 3: a pretty well known strip club worldwide. You got you
Speaker 3: got people that come to Starlets from across the world.
Speaker 3: They come to New York and they say, oh, we
Speaker 3: want to see Tom Square and you know what else
Speaker 3: we want to see starlets?
Speaker 4: Damn and you you know what made Stalus apartment.
Speaker 3: It's not not the dancer. It was always the bartender.
Speaker 3: It was always and only about the bartenders when it
Speaker 3: came to that. So that was what the documentary is about,
Speaker 3: is about that culture.
Speaker 1: It's different in Miami. You don't give as New York, nowhere.
Speaker 3: Else, nowhere else on this planet as a bartender that revered. Wow,
Speaker 3: I didn't notice that that is that is strictly it's
Speaker 3: specifically a New York thing.
Speaker 2: I wonder how that deployment works, like how they trade
Speaker 2: off those contracts.
Speaker 4: Oh, look at bag girls? Yeah that was I shot
Speaker 4: that in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Let me see the bag girls. Yeah? So all right,
Speaker 1: who got the better strip clubs? Miami or New York? What? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What that inform makes you? Just like Miami? You're seeing
Speaker 1: pussy like that wasn't like what you get shut away
Speaker 1: from it. I forgot that part.
Speaker 4: Like you're singing like it's it's real. You can't really
Speaker 4: compare it.
Speaker 1: I think. I think, guess why the bartenders are more famous.
Speaker 2: We got great partenders down here too.
Speaker 4: Bro, what you're all talking about?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I think the New York thing.
Speaker 3: I think I think the New York thing. I think
Speaker 3: it's the mystique of them. I think it's the low
Speaker 3: of them. I think it's the fantasy of them because
Speaker 3: you see them on Instagram, of the bars you think
Speaker 3: you think of, like Burnice Burgos.
Speaker 1: You heard her, Yeah, makes to make like a million
Speaker 1: almost a year. Where is she come from? She comes
Speaker 1: from Stallus. Damn, I ain't know that.
Speaker 4: That's how you know her?
Speaker 3: She she created a brand that started in Stallus and
Speaker 3: then she was smart enough to build on that brand.
Speaker 3: But she worked in Starless for I think two years
Speaker 3: and made a name for herself. That's how popular these
Speaker 3: girls get in New York City strip club.
Speaker 2: All Right, So a person coming saying they kind of
Speaker 2: like strippers too in a sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they pretty much.
Speaker 4: The same strippers. They look like stripper.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So a person just coming to New York and
Speaker 1: they want to have a good time. What strip clubs?
Speaker 1: They frequent starts. We already know that, we.
Speaker 3: Already know Styllis. But the quietly the best strip club
Speaker 3: in New York. And no, damn, you gotta come home,
Speaker 3: you gotta come home soon. Ain't been around for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Out of the games, out h River, Yarra's River.
Speaker 3: It's quietly been the best strip club this whole time.
Speaker 3: They don't do no promotions, they don't do no artists,
Speaker 3: they don't give who you is. You ain't coming, you
Speaker 3: gotta take your hat off. Quietly they've been the best.
Speaker 1: And and it's late night.
Speaker 4: They probably don't close about nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Of course, Queen, I want you to say that every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 4: Definitely Little.
Speaker 1: Yeah's name of the top five we got starlets?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we ever name three more sugar Daddy, I ain't
Speaker 3: been a sugar that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: Where is that Queen's Everything Queen dream?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: No, where's that?
Speaker 4: That's not way too that's all? And like everything is
Speaker 4: in the l I c Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I been to that one long.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Every everything is kind of like in that area. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know, and what else I want to say? Dream? Okay,
Speaker 3: dream right some Queens Boulevard?
Speaker 1: Okay, uh uh?
Speaker 4: Perfection?
Speaker 1: Which one of your niggas said that?
Speaker 4: Which one take from you said? Perfection? Perfection ain't been
Speaker 4: my nigga. Damn, your niggas ain't been in New York.
Speaker 1: Your niggas ain't been.
Speaker 4: I see this is crazy. Miami living is good.
Speaker 1: What was that strip club that was next to the block,
Speaker 1: like booth go, no, not go to the lady. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting to go to the lady with case slid yeh
Speaker 1: was ten deep and we got to talk about that.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm talking about on the same block. It
Speaker 1: was on the on the on them like not Sin
Speaker 1: City they have. I'm looking for I'm out of the loops.
Speaker 1: The Bronx used to be the king at the strip
Speaker 1: clubs when I and like that's what Sue was.
Speaker 3: Sus was up there like yeah, yeah, that was a
Speaker 3: different time.
Speaker 1: That was a different time.
Speaker 3: That was before the influence of the South. Okay, and
Speaker 3: with the influence of the South, but the music, the
Speaker 3: culture change. So the strip clubs that we got now
Speaker 3: is not light those Okay, it's different, even though we
Speaker 3: have our own version of it.
Speaker 1: It's not like that.
Speaker 3: It's not like Golden Lady or Sin City and none
Speaker 3: of that. It's like bartender driven. You know, it's heavy,
Speaker 3: you know, heavy b b L right, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's it's heavy.
Speaker 1: Queens that means BBL means like but you know what
Speaker 1: bb Come on, let's take a shot. Shot you think
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna take a shot. Yeah, Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: not to kill her, but let's talk about you drinking tequilla?
Speaker 1: Are you a tequilla drinker? Is that your go to drink?
Speaker 1: Like you're going to start this it's that night of
Speaker 1: river ere you go in order to kill her, because
Speaker 1: to kill us, they said to kill you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think tequila is the hot drink.
Speaker 4: It's very healthy, you know. Yeah, I feel like it's
Speaker 4: the hot drinks.
Speaker 3: Everybody's doing it, like in nineteen forty two Don Julio
Speaker 3: Riversido or Classia Zoo, like it's the thing to do.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's it's like a fatt it's cool.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I don't know why. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: say it's a gove is that?
Speaker 7: Is that what?
Speaker 1: I didn't know?
Speaker 4: Health benefit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well well no te quilla is I know drink.
Speaker 4: I drink it straight though.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm saying chase up. Yeah. So they say
Speaker 1: no alcohol is good, but the clean, the clean, cleanest
Speaker 1: alcohol is to killer. Really they said, yeah, oh, I
Speaker 1: thought it was vodka.
Speaker 4: Number three said that.
Speaker 2: They used to say that.
Speaker 1: I believe it was to Believe red wine. Really, so
Speaker 1: I can't have this.
Speaker 4: Number one is tequila. That's about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a professional because I heard ka before. Noo
Speaker 1: is like number three, trust me, that was my joint.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah wow. So you're not on
Speaker 1: that organic ship organic what like organic?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Because people would be like I'm organic, just like that organic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know. That's what. I didn't even know. I
Speaker 1: even heard that.
Speaker 4: That's Miami ship even though no, I went to l
Speaker 4: A recently.
Speaker 1: Damn, who the hell is with me? Ship? They had
Speaker 1: a whole what they had a whole side of the
Speaker 1: place where we went to with no alcohol tails.
Speaker 2: And you said he was coming at me when I said.
Speaker 1: That, because they wasn't calling that. Okay, drinking joy mine
Speaker 1: right now, I'm on that. I'm on that wine, Julio
Speaker 1: wine wine. I'm on that wine. But I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a hubigie drinker.
Speaker 2: Was that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Japanese whiskey. It's it's for the it's
Speaker 1: for the you know, if you want, if you want
Speaker 1: more hair on your chest, this is what we go with.
Speaker 1: Right But then, and I like, Champagne, Champaga. You know,
Speaker 1: Spade is the best, you know, in the case we didn't,
Speaker 1: we didn't get to that. You know, you know, we
Speaker 1: drink the Spade over here, the best in the world. Champagne.
Speaker 1: Who is your favorite new artist?
Speaker 4: New artists?
Speaker 1: I like, who's a new artist right now? We've got
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, And uh, what's my man? Cash
Speaker 1: Cobain's Uh oh, this little ship is still new. Okay,
Speaker 1: well it changed every day.
Speaker 3: Man, all right, what's considered new.
Speaker 4: He's been in the game a year or less, a year.
Speaker 1: Or maybe late. Yeah, damn busting out my socking. Anybody
Speaker 1: said that gave permission for that? You think you did.
Speaker 1: I was talking about choking wine. Bro, I'm good, I'm good, good,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I like I funk with I funk with the music.
Speaker 1: That's that.
Speaker 2: I just like.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Young Blue fan, and I want every
Speaker 3: time I say that.
Speaker 1: People be like, what I love young Blue, Young Blue? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: young Blue. I got a track with this nigga, right,
Speaker 1: I called him, Yeah, I called him blue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't know what's fun?
Speaker 1: It's blue.
Speaker 4: Let's do a shot of that and we love killed me.
Speaker 1: That was crazy us. Okay, God comes down Earth guy,
Speaker 1: he goes see you, and he said, man, no, you
Speaker 1: get to make one track, and you get any feature
Speaker 1: in the world, and you get any producer in the
Speaker 1: world to produce that beat. Who is main o? And
Speaker 1: this is a two part question because we know you're
Speaker 1: gonna go big, so one dad and then one ship
Speaker 1: you got you gotta Yeah, you got a two part question.
Speaker 1: So it's two parts. One is you can you can
Speaker 1: go with the dad, and then the other is the
Speaker 1: alive feature.
Speaker 4: If I go dead, then I need poking big damn.
Speaker 1: I've never heard nobody say that that was That was
Speaker 1: a slick one. I'm gonna take out of that.
Speaker 4: Let's do that.
Speaker 1: You got me on that one. Now are people who
Speaker 1: arelive and the producer and who's producing the pocket a
Speaker 1: big record and the producer could be dead too. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you just changed it all.
Speaker 3: Then it ain't that many dead producers.
Speaker 1: It is a producers.
Speaker 4: Don't die hip hop hip hop don't die.
Speaker 1: You're right, this is.
Speaker 3: Don't die, damn.
Speaker 4: And if they do die, it's not by gun violence.
Speaker 1: They are immortal, all right, Yeah they live? So who's
Speaker 1: producing that? Just blaze? I like that act all right? Now?
Speaker 1: A live feature, a love feature. But this is one
Speaker 1: of a little bit different. God is asking you saying, okay, alive, alive,
Speaker 1: but he's saying this record is gonna change humanity.
Speaker 2: Jesus christanity, He's gonna change humanity.
Speaker 4: Shoulders right now?
Speaker 2: Ch is what.
Speaker 4: Already up?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: To the better place, to a better place, Bruno Marsh
Speaker 1: Western feature Now who produces that.
Speaker 4: Damn producers that they got to be like what's his name?
Speaker 3: Doctor?
Speaker 4: Oh now doctor, that would be a good one. But
Speaker 4: Quincy Jones, man, but they can't be leaving the witness man.
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones left us peace. So this is these people
Speaker 3: that's alive. Yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: All right? For real? Pharrell would be good, would be good.
Speaker 1: That's what I like for Rell.
Speaker 4: I like for Rell, Bruno Mars. I like that out
Speaker 4: the box.
Speaker 1: I like to go after box like have you ever
Speaker 1: have it worked with?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 4: Okay, Unfortunately I wasn't that lucky. Nothing functioning.
Speaker 1: No, it would happen.
Speaker 4: No, so pretty print it havings.
Speaker 1: So one night out here, uh nows just hanging out.
Speaker 1: He's he went to Havoc party and I hear that
Speaker 1: you see nas Yeah, and you say, I apologize for
Speaker 1: my brother Jim Jones. The reason everyone.
Speaker 3: Happened because now I was like, yeah, I got something
Speaker 3: for your man Jones.
Speaker 1: He said, oh guy, and we laughing. He was with you.
Speaker 4: It's all good boy, like get it, it's all love,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But what happened was I told Nash, I said, listen,
Speaker 3: a really close friend of mine.
Speaker 4: He's in love with you like this this female who
Speaker 4: is going, you know, shout out the rose.
Speaker 3: She is in love with Nas and she met Naves before,
Speaker 3: but she was just too afraid to tell him how
Speaker 3: she felt. So she always bugging me about, hey, man,
Speaker 3: can you introduce me to Nas? Like I just want Nas.
Speaker 3: I'm like, NAS don't want you, right, But then it's like,
Speaker 3: I'm why would I say that?
Speaker 4: That's bad for me to do. I'm blocking her blessings.
Speaker 3: So one day she she called me and talking it's
Speaker 3: no ship, and she says, I really want to speak
Speaker 3: to him. I say, yo, I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 3: the phone with Nas. And after this, the fucker ask
Speaker 3: me for ship.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So one day she called me and I was like,
Speaker 3: I got Nas on the line.
Speaker 1: Okay. She like for real? Like for real?
Speaker 4: I say, yeah, for real?
Speaker 1: She don't know that.
Speaker 3: I called my homie and was like, listen, I need
Speaker 3: you to play like Nas. I said, I said, I
Speaker 3: need you to act like Nas. Okay, just you know,
Speaker 3: say certain certain ship that Nas will say like you
Speaker 3: know my black queen like.
Speaker 1: That did.
Speaker 4: Forgive me?
Speaker 1: Say, you know, the Nas is a knowledgeable guy.
Speaker 3: This is Nas in it and you know, he said,
Speaker 3: all right, I got it, and he didn't get the
Speaker 3: assignment the right way.
Speaker 4: My homeboy.
Speaker 3: He gets on the phone and the first thing he
Speaker 3: says is what my black queen, my black queen, my black.
Speaker 4: He said, yeah, my black queen, my black one.
Speaker 1: He and man who told me?
Speaker 3: Because I jumped on the line, like you nas Mama
Speaker 3: was telling you about my girl Rose and me I
Speaker 3: was telling you.
Speaker 4: That she she in love with you.
Speaker 3: She's just afraid of you niggas. She don't know what
Speaker 3: to say to you. And he getting on the lines. Yeah,
Speaker 3: my black queen, my black queen.
Speaker 4: My black queen.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be like, yes, that's how he.
Speaker 3: So after he's said my black queen about sixteen.
Speaker 9: Times, right because right, no, she she was just like hey,
Speaker 9: like hey, Like he was like yeah, you know, I
Speaker 9: ain't got that much time and like that, but you know,
Speaker 9: I'm gonna get your number.
Speaker 1: From man Oh wow. She'd been waiting for him to call.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get your number from Mano and you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, and it's you know, saw I love
Speaker 3: on my black queen. And she's just like okay, I said, yea,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a number, man, like for real,
Speaker 3: just you know, give him a call over me now
Speaker 3: and then you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: He hangs up. I'm gonna play this ship for you,
Speaker 3: right because I haven't recorded. And she calls me back
Speaker 3: and was like, you know, I recorded that that wasn't NADS.
Speaker 3: I said it fucking was grateful.
Speaker 4: That was fucking no.
Speaker 3: When I seen ours that day, I told him, I said, listen, yeah,
Speaker 3: don't be mad at me. I guess it was a
Speaker 3: short version. I said, listen, I set somebody up and
Speaker 3: I played like it was you. He said, Yo, you crazy,
Speaker 3: You got your fucking mind, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like to this day, I've never admitted that it wasn't Nas.
Speaker 1: Just make some noise in this ship.
Speaker 4: You're such a myself let me so, let me ask.
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer, but I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: ask because I can see people in the comment session
Speaker 1: saying something, what's the difference between you hanging with NAS
Speaker 1: if you wouldn't hang with Max? Good question.
Speaker 3: One is considered to be a real, a real problem,
Speaker 3: and one is just some competitive viral. I feel how
Speaker 3: I feel because I feel like I'm that that I'm
Speaker 3: that I'm that nigga. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 3: think you know Jim Jones saying NOAs it's not a problem.
Speaker 1: You know the funniest shit I got it. I got
Speaker 1: in trouble because of you know called Jim, because I
Speaker 1: got in the breakfast club and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I see where Jim is coming from, and all the
Speaker 1: whole Queen's bridge better than what I said. I just said,
Speaker 1: I see where he's coming from. Like I just say
Speaker 1: he's better than Nos. But I see like that confidence.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to wake up in the morning and
Speaker 1: feel like that should be that person. When I tell you, boy,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I got a queens where it's trouble bro.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was thinking I was in punishment
Speaker 1: for you know, Nos is a rap god and one
Speaker 1: about he laughed.
Speaker 4: He was not saying he was laughing. Yes, he laughed
Speaker 4: it off. He's like, Yo, you know I got something
Speaker 4: your man up. It ain't nothing.
Speaker 1: It's all love.
Speaker 3: Right. So the competitive nature of hip hop right for
Speaker 3: nigga like Jim, he popping his ship. I feel like
Speaker 3: he's the most improved niggas rapping is you know you're
Speaker 3: doing what you do, right?
Speaker 1: Is it really a disrespect?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: But for the fans, they're like, how dare you?
Speaker 3: How dare you rep nos the rap guard? You could
Speaker 3: never compare. But at the end of the day, he
Speaker 3: understand our rhythm. He's saying, some ship that's gonna have
Speaker 3: everybody talking, and it worked.
Speaker 4: When do you think it turns into disrespect?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: What makes it.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: I'm asking in general?
Speaker 3: Well, he asked me about the difference between the non
Speaker 3: situation and the mass B situation.
Speaker 4: And the mass B situation, there's a situation where there.
Speaker 3: Was a real, real discrepancy, you know, And who am
Speaker 3: I to say what's serious and what is not. I'm
Speaker 3: from the thought of if if nobody got dropped, nobody
Speaker 3: got shot, nobody got.
Speaker 4: Hurt, then it ain't really that serious. But that's that's
Speaker 4: just who I am.
Speaker 3: I can't project that on somebody else because a certain
Speaker 3: level of disrespect could be that serious. They could be
Speaker 3: lifetime serious, you know what I'm saying. So you know
Speaker 3: what I think, that's what the difference is.
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like I was watching y'all show
Speaker 1: once and you had asked Jim, and I believe Jim
Speaker 1: is like no, and I believe y'all never never spoke
Speaker 1: about it again. We have okay off there, Yeah, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah again. This is something that I wish, like you know,
Speaker 1: hip hop, certain things we would get over.
Speaker 4: We were I wrote him along text one day.
Speaker 1: Okay, like talking because I felt like you were trying
Speaker 1: to fix it absolutely And this is me just spitballing
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't know right, Like I said, man,
Speaker 1: Jim is my man, like I love Jim Jones man,
Speaker 1: like you know, I got to see him in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and I also got to see Camon. But let's let's
Speaker 1: speak about do you think that him and Max? What
Speaker 1: do you think could be fixed more him and Max
Speaker 1: or him and Can.
Speaker 3: Personally we could get to a space that we're all
Speaker 3: sitting in a room together.
Speaker 1: That's why I respect that.
Speaker 4: That's what I personally I wish.
Speaker 1: I wrote him. I wrote him a long text one day, Yim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just on my mind right just as
Speaker 3: a because I'm you know, I'm a nigga that that
Speaker 3: understands what it is to have lifetime problems with niggas.
Speaker 3: It's just certain niggas that I can never fix it
Speaker 3: with But from my perspective, I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's this something that could be, you know, rectified. And
Speaker 3: I sent them a text and I expressed him how
Speaker 3: I felt, and at the same time, I was just like, yo,
Speaker 3: if if I'm if I'm stepping over boundaries just to
Speaker 3: understand that this is as a brother, this is just
Speaker 3: how I feel like, right, And you know, I'm just
Speaker 3: basically like, yo, you know, this is something that I
Speaker 3: feel like will look better if we all kind of
Speaker 3: embrace them, you know, a different level of maturity, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But he he let me know, like, Yo,
Speaker 3: I respect where you're coming from, and I love you
Speaker 3: my niggas the brother, but this is something else for me,
Speaker 3: and I gotta respect that.
Speaker 1: Because there was rumors at one point when Max came
Speaker 1: home that there was going to be an interview with
Speaker 1: Max and Jim right, just them too, I believe on
Speaker 1: Jim's show artists Right. I never heard that's a rumor.
Speaker 1: I heard a couple of camera guys that I know.
Speaker 4: I think that that would be dope. I think that
Speaker 4: would I think that that would be and they don't
Speaker 4: need nobody else.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying because I know Max, I
Speaker 3: had I have a relationship with Max, Max before I
Speaker 3: actually knew I.
Speaker 4: Actually I actually knew Max.
Speaker 1: Because I seen him shot you out.
Speaker 3: It was like I knew Max when he first came home.
Speaker 3: Right when he first came home. He used to come
Speaker 3: to Brooklyn, used to come, you know, my man GQ
Speaker 3: Beach Studio the first time, not that first time, right,
Speaker 3: So what happened was he was I'm a home. He
Speaker 3: was coming to Brooklyn. You know, one of my homies
Speaker 3: had knew him from prison. One of my homies, he
Speaker 3: had knew him from prison. I knew Max brother, you know,
Speaker 3: Mike Murder. We was in the full building together and
Speaker 3: Kasaki and all that together. Right when Max came home,
Speaker 3: my man was like, Yo, my little man just came home.
Speaker 3: He nice and named Max being all he from Harlem.
Speaker 3: So Max used to actually come from Harlem to Brooklyn
Speaker 3: to record through the studio that we was all working in.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He used to scream, hustle hard and all that like,
Speaker 3: you know, but their relationship was more defined and I
Speaker 3: was just meeting him. They had the relationship, so there
Speaker 3: was always respect between us right, But our relationship was never.
Speaker 1: In the space of.
Speaker 3: Me and a Jim Jones. It was it never got
Speaker 3: to that, you see what I'm saying, So me feeling
Speaker 3: how I felt as far as definitely don't have an
Speaker 3: issue with Max b I don't have that. No, No,
Speaker 3: I don't have no issue with him at all. But
Speaker 3: I was just saying that as a friend, and we
Speaker 3: talked about that earlier, and we getting money together, we
Speaker 3: got business together, our families know each other. I just
Speaker 3: wanted to respect that in that in that moment.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you know, us us both man living in
Speaker 1: this industry, sometimes there's real beef and then sometimes there's
Speaker 1: raped beef, and sometimes there's just like in between, right,
Speaker 1: Like we gotta like have those measures. When do you
Speaker 1: think a beef goes too far? I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: Jim and Max or Jim and Cam. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: for you when you think a line is drawn you've
Speaker 1: been you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I feel like on certain things it said that we
Speaker 3: just can't take back. There's certain people that just could never.
Speaker 1: You know, without naming the people, can give me an
Speaker 1: example or what that looks like. You don't have to
Speaker 1: name it. People when when When? When?
Speaker 3: When you make me feel like when I see you
Speaker 3: on sight, Yeah I needed, I need to get with
Speaker 3: you then, you know, but you got to understand everything
Speaker 3: that happens on the inenternet. It's not made for for
Speaker 3: for a violent outcome. Like I ran into Trive.
Speaker 4: He was at a fight. I was at the fight.
Speaker 3: I've seen him at his baby in his hand. Vegas, right, Vegas.
Speaker 3: Did you see the footage? I didn't want no smoke.
Speaker 1: That's real.
Speaker 3: I don't want no smoke, that's real. And we got
Speaker 3: to understand what real beef is and what like having
Speaker 3: a discrepancy is. Me and him had a what I
Speaker 3: felt like as a discrepancy. I'm not looking for you,
Speaker 3: my nigga. In fact, I don't even I'm trying to
Speaker 3: find a way to say this without feeling like it's disrespectful.
Speaker 3: If I'm beefing with a nigga and I see how
Speaker 3: far he willing to take it, I don't want no
Speaker 3: smoke with him. If I'm beefing with a nigga, any nigga,
Speaker 3: and I understand that he's willing to get on the
Speaker 3: stand and point on a nigga and demonstrate on a nigga.
Speaker 3: He's a stronger man than me. I don't want to
Speaker 3: smoke with him, because where we come from, if we
Speaker 3: call a nigga rat, either we're gonna do what we
Speaker 3: can only do two things with him. Either you want
Speaker 3: to do something about him, or you gonna leave him alone.
Speaker 3: So in that instance, I don't want no smoke with you. Brother,
Speaker 3: Live your life. You got a beautiful family, Do your thing.
Speaker 1: What soney going in? Let me be devil's advocate a
Speaker 1: little bit about gun situation?
Speaker 4: What about it?
Speaker 1: Do you think that was like crossing the line when
Speaker 1: he wouldn't understand and said, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Gunna, I think Gonna and I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I think Gonna actually felt like he was tricked.
Speaker 4: I think he was told. I think he was told, Hey,
Speaker 4: this is not writing. You're not telling on nobody.
Speaker 3: You just gotta admit to these things and they're gonna
Speaker 3: give you a plead and you're gonna, you know, go
Speaker 3: home your family. I think that he thought that he
Speaker 3: was doing the right thing. I don't think that he
Speaker 3: had the intentions of telling him. That's what I think
Speaker 3: that he thought. I don't know, that's what I believe
Speaker 3: he didn't understand that what he was saying was in
Speaker 3: one hundred percent contradiction of what the defense is saying.
Speaker 3: We're saying we a rap label, were not a gang.
Speaker 3: You was told to say that it is a gang.
Speaker 1: The gang. Yeah, and that's you witness crime. And he
Speaker 1: was a part of it as well. Right.
Speaker 3: So that's the that's the that's the issue, that's the
Speaker 3: that's the way the line was on. But the thing is,
Speaker 3: this intent is very very very important when you come,
Speaker 3: when you when you understand what snitching.
Speaker 1: Is, explain that police.
Speaker 4: If I get caught with two or three guns and
Speaker 4: to get out of my sentence.
Speaker 3: Or to know, to get out of the prosecution's way,
Speaker 3: two three guns, I'll go and say, yo, nor ready
Speaker 3: did this?
Speaker 1: No the manster.
Speaker 3: If I intentionally understandably say yo, it was it was
Speaker 3: it was the monster, not no, but monster that did
Speaker 3: it right, that did whatever. Because I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: out of what.
Speaker 1: Happened to me.
Speaker 3: I got caught with two or three guns, Like, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get out of that. So I don't want
Speaker 3: to I don't want to deal with that. I don't
Speaker 3: want what comes with that. So I'm trying to find
Speaker 3: an easy way out, so that intent is possible, that
Speaker 3: intent is what it is. So in the case with
Speaker 3: with with a gunner, I don't know if his intent
Speaker 3: was the same. You see what I'm saying. Sometimes you
Speaker 3: fall like if a nigga, if if if somebody, if
Speaker 3: somebody did something and that she was around, and the
Speaker 3: police ask you, yo, who was there? You said, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was it was it was me and Monster, we
Speaker 3: were together. They used that to incriminate, incriminate the other person.
Speaker 3: Are you really telling I wasn't intent? You could be
Speaker 3: like I wasn't intended to telling them. They just asked
Speaker 3: me who was there, and then I was saying that
Speaker 3: it was me and Monster.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So intent, intent is intent. It's definitely important do do
Speaker 3: do the streets understanding st Nah.
Speaker 4: It's hard to even figure that out.
Speaker 1: People don't understand intent.
Speaker 3: People understanding say. I think it's once you get to
Speaker 3: a level of maturity, you understand in sent because they
Speaker 3: you know, the thing is, you ain't We ain't supposed
Speaker 3: to be talking regardless, It always won't come back to
Speaker 3: that niggas, you ain't supposed to be saying nothing. So
Speaker 3: there's no room for no slip ups. When you ain't,
Speaker 3: you don't say nothing, you know. But in his case,
Speaker 3: I just think that I don't know if he was
Speaker 3: intended on doing that. It came out bad and then
Speaker 3: we heard what Doug had to say about it, and
Speaker 3: it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I guess that feels kind of like I want to
Speaker 1: I want to ask you too, because now we also
Speaker 1: have footage of young Thug. They say, hey, we don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not it.
Speaker 3: Nobody don't think nobody said that.
Speaker 10: Oh I thought someone just said nobody said that. Note Okay,
Speaker 10: well she's not nobody. Nobody said right so about him
Speaker 10: in the precinct.
Speaker 1: In the precinct, so people. But what people are saying
Speaker 1: is that like he was throwing the police off.
Speaker 3: I think I and again, like I just said, I
Speaker 3: felt like, yeah, I felt like Gunner felt like he
Speaker 3: was he was tricked into that. On the flip side,
Speaker 3: I feel like Thug thought that he was finessing mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I feel like he thought that he was in there,
Speaker 3: yeah shanty, give me your number, man, like you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to know something Like I felt
Speaker 3: like that was what his mentality was.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I could be wrong, but I think
Speaker 3: that looking at what he was saying, and looking at
Speaker 3: what he said after that, and on what was going on,
Speaker 3: and the fact that he didn't actually specifically tell on somebody,
Speaker 3: I think that he thought that.
Speaker 1: He had to answers.
Speaker 3: But the issue is this, though, ain't no finessing the
Speaker 3: police man, don't finessing the law. We think we could
Speaker 3: do that, it's always going to come back and bite us.
Speaker 4: Every time.
Speaker 1: M years ago, right, there was something that was said,
Speaker 1: probably about all of us, and we were like, we
Speaker 1: were trying to explain to people, like the rap game
Speaker 1: might be the most dangerous job on the planet, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm not there's no disrespect to like, you know,
Speaker 1: military workers or whatever. But most of the time we
Speaker 1: don't know how our enemies look.
Speaker 3: No, because more people know who you are than you
Speaker 3: know them, than you had a disadvantage, you understand.
Speaker 1: Do you feel do you feel like like rapping is
Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous jobs? Yes, to listen.
Speaker 3: I talked about being in the dating room, looking at you,
Speaker 3: looking at Cam, looking at Hove, looking at all these
Speaker 3: artists coming out of the city and saying, damn, I
Speaker 3: want to do that, because what it looked like for
Speaker 3: me was that rap was a way out. I'm coming
Speaker 3: from violence, I'm coming from the street, I'm coming from prison,
Speaker 3: I'm coming from having a plethora of enemies. I want
Speaker 3: to get out of this. I'm thinking, soon as I
Speaker 3: get into the rap game, we made it. Nah, I
Speaker 3: thought wrong. In fact, getting into the game kind of
Speaker 3: intensifies that. It kind of magnifies that in a negative way,
Speaker 3: because now you more of a a target, you more
Speaker 3: of a symbol of hope that sometimes people just can't
Speaker 3: get out their own way, so they hate you more. Mark,
Speaker 3: fuck all these rappers is dying. I ain't think you
Speaker 3: could die once you become a rapper. I thought that
Speaker 3: insulated you. This is what I listen, good point me
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven somewhere War Report, whole nas listening this shit.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, this is why I want to do this, right,
Speaker 3: because this is gonna allow me to escape this shit.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: We never thought that niggas was really gonna be dying
Speaker 3: and all this, like like yeah, it turned into something.
Speaker 4: Totally different, Like I didn't think rapids could die.
Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy. I remember at the time.
Speaker 1: I used to Uh, if if I ever got pulled
Speaker 1: over and I said I was a rapper, like the
Speaker 1: police would just let me go. Like right now, pulled over,
Speaker 1: I want to say I'm a drug dealer, like I
Speaker 1: say I'm a rapper, like it worse, like like you
Speaker 1: got to say you're an American citizens all right, but
Speaker 1: I'm not playing.
Speaker 4: Being a rapper is not special no more. It's not
Speaker 4: it's not.
Speaker 1: Famous is not special no more.
Speaker 3: Being famous can still have depending on your level of fame.
Speaker 1: Is this you Yeah, you ain't checking me out? Famous man?
Speaker 1: Fa So that was bad funny. It's in CBS right now,
Speaker 1: go up there, pure oh boxes right now about to
Speaker 1: go buy available And.
Speaker 4: Being a rapper.
Speaker 1: It's not as.
Speaker 3: Prestigious especial as it used to be because being a
Speaker 3: rapper felt like there was a rights to passage.
Speaker 1: It was like there was a level of getting it.
Speaker 3: Only the best had record deals, and only the best
Speaker 3: was on B T and m t V, only only
Speaker 3: those special ones.
Speaker 1: Now it's like everybody could be it.
Speaker 2: You don't think that your own house, You don't think
Speaker 2: that's the magic word the best.
Speaker 4: I feel like the.
Speaker 2: Best has dwindled. Down to you don't have to be good.
Speaker 1: It don't have to be anything.
Speaker 3: Because the technology has allowed us to allow anybody to
Speaker 3: be a rapper or be an artist. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: pro tools. We could set pro tools up anywhere, bathroom, hotel,
Speaker 3: bus car, anywhere.
Speaker 1: We could set up pro tools or loops.
Speaker 2: All that. You could a whole recording on your phone
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Anywhere you can record right because the technology allowed.
Speaker 1: Us to do that. Mad a whole hit from from prison.
Speaker 3: So now because of that, anybody can just be an artist.
Speaker 3: That's music is the only sport where you could just
Speaker 3: be it. You gotta go to school to be a lawyer,
Speaker 3: that's real. You gotta go through training in amateurs to
Speaker 3: be a professional boxer. You can't just be a professional
Speaker 3: fucking baseball player, basketball players. You can't just be it music.
Speaker 3: You could just be it rap up.
Speaker 2: You can just be it music and rapper. But I
Speaker 2: think we should be different than hip hop. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: not even.
Speaker 3: Me that though, because anybody can just do it, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You know how many girls I've seen that
Speaker 3: started to garner a certain level of Instagram notoriety turn
Speaker 3: around to say to me, I'm gonna make a record
Speaker 3: because it's like the rap still comes with a certain
Speaker 3: level of coolness, right and you I'm like, yo, you
Speaker 3: just it don't work like that.
Speaker 1: You just like it's it's.
Speaker 3: Dudes, you gotta pay. It's a standard that you gotta
Speaker 3: sit on top of.
Speaker 1: But no, you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't have to reach a certain level of a standard.
Speaker 3: You don't have to reach a certain level of capability.
Speaker 3: You don't have to get to these places, you know,
Speaker 3: because before it was like if.
Speaker 4: You get a record a record deal, you don't need
Speaker 4: a record deal. You get a major record deal, you
Speaker 4: was like looked.
Speaker 3: At as Wow, this niggas signed a Sony, he signed
Speaker 3: a death Cham, he signed to automatic automatically just by
Speaker 3: having that, because that shows you could have been the
Speaker 3: wagoned person in the world. You gotta deal that makes
Speaker 3: you automatically. You gotta be something for somebody to do that.
Speaker 1: Now it's not that.
Speaker 3: Anybody can do it anybody. So because it's now it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't even want to be.
Speaker 1: Called a rapper. It's like, don't call it. Like it's
Speaker 1: just disposable music.
Speaker 3: It's all watered down. If anything, the labels don't feel
Speaker 3: the same. The listener is not the same. The genre,
Speaker 3: the energy, the culture is not the same. Rights it's
Speaker 3: just not special. It's just like everybody is a rapper. Now,
Speaker 3: how many times we've been somewhere, We've been some places
Speaker 3: and you're like, yo, you know who that is? Like, no,
Speaker 3: I don't know who the fuck that is, but that's
Speaker 3: such and such here a rapper.
Speaker 2: But we shouldn't accept them as rappers. What I'm saying like,
Speaker 2: everybody can't be a rapper. They can all be rappers,
Speaker 2: but should not be accepted.
Speaker 4: What's the standard? What's the measurement?
Speaker 1: And the same thing with DJs. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: DJs DJ them.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what Nads and Master Pill is doing
Speaker 2: is super love.
Speaker 1: What they're doing to pay homage to.
Speaker 4: The culture of it understood.
Speaker 1: So, but but that's they they can't and it also
Speaker 1: makes business sense.
Speaker 2: Well it does make business because we're all being nostalgic
Speaker 2: saying that ship was dope back then. This is why
Speaker 2: we like it now.
Speaker 1: You building fan base.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry when you say that they we shouldn't accept
Speaker 3: them as rappers.
Speaker 2: So what's the standard? I mean, you're asking me to
Speaker 2: make the standard yes, what's the standard? At least they
Speaker 2: make a sentence that rhymes. It's many people that can
Speaker 2: make a sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying be the standard, because that's
Speaker 3: that's the bar's loading.
Speaker 2: Like listen, let's talk about m seeing his historically, Like,
Speaker 2: let's go back to the.
Speaker 4: Cold crush and how it keeps going up. That's too far.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm gonna bring you up.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring you up to day.
Speaker 2: Let's go ice cube, Let's go n W, let's go
Speaker 2: public enemy, let's go nas. As it keeps going up,
Speaker 2: it gets more lyrical, more intelligent. How the fuck does
Speaker 2: it go down this way? How do we go from
Speaker 2: down here up here and then slope down? That doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense, man, But listen, that's so I'm not so
Speaker 2: skin you this though, because any person with you know,
Speaker 2: mind and bodies should be able to be able to
Speaker 2: to make a sense is rhyme R What would be
Speaker 2: in your in your mind? What would be the standard
Speaker 2: that people would have to live up to to be
Speaker 2: to be able to say I'm a rapper?
Speaker 1: No MC or a rapper?
Speaker 4: Well, no, to be an MC is one thing.
Speaker 1: To be a rapper. Anybody could be a rap. Anybody
Speaker 1: could be a rapper.
Speaker 2: Anybody could be a rapper. To be MC down, to
Speaker 2: be an MC, you have to be prolific in your lyrics.
Speaker 2: It has to rhyme, it has to make sense.
Speaker 4: But who's at the gate making sure that there is
Speaker 4: no gate?
Speaker 2: So the audience needs to be the gate.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna work that. No, that's the one that
Speaker 3: the honest don't care. No, but that's the audience is
Speaker 3: one a good time.
Speaker 2: When the when the audience stops carrying, it's not just
Speaker 2: the audience's fault.
Speaker 4: It means it is the audience's fault because people party.
Speaker 3: People like the party, and they at the club and
Speaker 3: understanding the textures of music and if a nigga is
Speaker 3: like cat rat, that that that and if it sound good.
Speaker 4: And it's a vibe and it's a bounce. Wait, we're
Speaker 4: going with it, but let's go back.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to what you said the best lyrics. Wow,
Speaker 1: this on one second?
Speaker 4: One second, I'm I'm bathroom. I want to use the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Right after we got the de conversation, Damn, right now,
Speaker 1: I was ready to go with the big club on you.
Speaker 1: In my life, I like the do.
Speaker 4: No, we were trying to talk about the standard, the standard.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So what would be the.
Speaker 3: Standard of of the MC like because the general pub
Speaker 3: the general public, the general public doesn't have that standard, right,
Speaker 3: the average person is just looking for something that that
Speaker 3: makes them feel like they're having a good time, especially
Speaker 3: when you were talking about clubs.
Speaker 2: So my point with the general public not having the
Speaker 2: standard was this, you yourself remembered, you said the label
Speaker 2: when you got signed, the label needed to put all
Speaker 2: this money to make this record a hit and do
Speaker 2: all this stuff. We all could agree. The record label
Speaker 2: doesn't give a fuck about hip hop. They give a
Speaker 2: fuck about profit, so they will make hits that doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily benefit hip hop, benefits their pockets, benefits the corporate structure.
Speaker 2: So the hits that they're gonna keep pushing are not
Speaker 2: going to be beneficial to hip hop growing, being smarter,
Speaker 2: be more prolific, be more social. So they're gonna just
Speaker 2: keep pushing these hit records with all this money that
Speaker 2: eventually the whole audience today after the fact, they don't
Speaker 2: give a fuck.
Speaker 4: They don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: About MC's rappers, hip hop, the elements of hip hop.
Speaker 4: It's all that doesn't solve them.
Speaker 2: It's just a music. Give me a fucking hit record.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. There's one leg up, two legs,
Speaker 2: one of my ears in my face, I'm this, I'm that.
Speaker 2: They don't give a fuck what it is. Just give
Speaker 2: me a catchy tune and then the idea of hip
Speaker 2: hop that we all grew up on.
Speaker 4: That's it. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: I agree with the fact that nobody really cares, right,
Speaker 3: and I think that's the problem. So so basically so
Speaker 3: that can't change, then I think it can That's what
Speaker 3: I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I think it can't change.
Speaker 4: Because no one cares, because I think hip hop.
Speaker 2: Is still a unified group of people, even though we
Speaker 2: might have different intentions, different ideas, we all still identify
Speaker 2: under the banner of hip hop.
Speaker 4: But once it became corporate, it was out of our hands.
Speaker 2: But right now we've unders we've all understand that, well,
Speaker 2: we believe corporate is kind of out of well, the
Speaker 2: major labels, corporate is still the social media companies are corporate.
Speaker 4: That's still another record.
Speaker 1: What happened with ninety seven right now, Well, they're saying
Speaker 1: that it's visually the capitalist that's running that whole civil.
Speaker 2: Capitalism runs everything we do. Absolutely we are capital the
Speaker 2: thing I'm not mad at being a capitalist.
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that neither. But I don't think
Speaker 3: it can change back. We're not right raw, hip hop
Speaker 3: raw not the roan. You can never go because just
Speaker 3: as the idea of the time frame that it was in,
Speaker 3: just just just that standard of what what we felt
Speaker 3: like hip hop was. I don't feel like it could
Speaker 3: change back to that though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't think that it could change back to what
Speaker 3: it used to be.
Speaker 2: I don't think it could change back. But I don't
Speaker 2: think we have to say because it can't change back,
Speaker 2: we can't.
Speaker 4: Keep the essence there. But who's gonna keep it?
Speaker 2: We right here in drink Champs alone are trying to
Speaker 2: keep the hip.
Speaker 3: What shot that your shot that drink keeping the essence alive?
Speaker 3: But do you do you do understand that two thirty
Speaker 3: three in the morning in a club in any various
Speaker 3: the of of of of your choice, right, alcohol, drugs, music,
Speaker 3: absolutely from Yeah, nobody's thinking about keeping the essence of
Speaker 3: hip hop.
Speaker 2: But you know I'm saying that you do understand that
Speaker 2: not everybody lives at two thirty in the morning on
Speaker 2: drugs and alcohol in a constantly American you know what.
Speaker 4: You know what, sometimes we forget that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I ain't gonna lie. That's the one thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: thank you for pointing that. That's the one thing I
Speaker 1: love about Ogzo. Like when you see Kine if you
Speaker 1: follow Caine the other day, yo, yo, Kine stays on
Speaker 1: the road. Yes, when I see that ship, I see like,
Speaker 1: you know, Jasey Jabb all these people staying on the
Speaker 1: road and it's like, yo, you know he's.
Speaker 4: Just judge Jeff Kill crazy hood day like killed day. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he shut it down.
Speaker 3: You know, hip hop is the only genre of music
Speaker 3: that people kind of shame you for getting older.
Speaker 1: You're for getting older, Like why change that?
Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, that too, that's that's that's that
Speaker 3: should be a part of the agenda.
Speaker 1: And you can talk, you can be absolutely hundred isnine
Speaker 1: thousand years old. Come on, he's front, come on, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's yes, he's different.
Speaker 3: Is the only genre that you know, you get to
Speaker 3: your forties and plus then it's like, oh, you old nigga,
Speaker 3: you need a share and it's like it shouldn't be
Speaker 3: that because every other music you can it doesn't.
Speaker 4: It's no age.
Speaker 1: Ceiling.
Speaker 4: You can be whatever, right.
Speaker 3: Ozzy Osbourne went all the way to the death end
Speaker 3: told head fans torn passed to the death and as
Speaker 3: an artist, this is not a filical sport, right, you
Speaker 3: understand like your bad AnGR you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You got bad physicals.
Speaker 2: We wanted to be right, but it's not.
Speaker 4: It's it's mental.
Speaker 1: Is insane clown posse. Maybe you gotta because you might be.
Speaker 3: Able to jump around on stage no more, but understanding
Speaker 3: that the music is still music.
Speaker 1: And cut you off. Did you see Kane do his
Speaker 1: last I saw that.
Speaker 7: I talked him about that, that whole footage though it's
Speaker 7: just resurface about that last another day you got me
Speaker 7: it's not up the first one.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 1: The dude.
Speaker 3: Again, king man, we should be doing this ship.
Speaker 4: Put the rest off if you want to. So they
Speaker 4: got this thing where they say yo.
Speaker 3: So it's like they got this thing where they be
Speaker 3: like yo, these niggas are tenier citizens, right, and it's
Speaker 3: like y'all yeah, telling us.
Speaker 1: I never heard this.
Speaker 4: This is kind of hard teen year citizens.
Speaker 3: I started and started as like a I don't know
Speaker 3: I guess niggas was trying to like go at Jim
Speaker 3: Jones and say, oh, he's he's a he's a teenage citizen.
Speaker 3: He's the youngest o g. We know, like, I don't
Speaker 3: think nothing wrong with that, right, because age is about energy.
Speaker 3: We only hear one time, bro, that one time that
Speaker 3: we know of right, that we know off right that
Speaker 3: that that's what we know. Why not live to the
Speaker 3: fullest and you do what make you happy, my nigga,
Speaker 3: Like like, if if your perception is me is a
Speaker 3: teen citizen, then let me let me live my life
Speaker 3: the way I want to live it, my nigga, let
Speaker 3: me live my days the way I fucking want to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: Because guess what, it's people that you know album.
Speaker 2: That's a good name.
Speaker 3: Though there's people that we both know and everybody here
Speaker 3: know that that didn't have the has to live the
Speaker 3: way they want to live right and do the things
Speaker 3: that they want to do.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: We're still here with with with the blessings from lucky
Speaker 3: you know, from the universe like that were able to.
Speaker 1: Still be here.
Speaker 3: Like so if if if I want to still pull
Speaker 3: up to the club, if I got on sweatsuit and
Speaker 3: jews on.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be a little nigga. I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to be a lion. But I'm this hip hop.
Speaker 1: I'm standing you.
Speaker 4: You've always been being you'reerent.
Speaker 3: People set these invisible boundaries and these standards on you
Speaker 3: and say that when you get to a certain age
Speaker 3: that you should be dressing a certain way or doing
Speaker 3: a certain thing, or you should just automatically turn this
Speaker 3: old man.
Speaker 4: I don't believe in that.
Speaker 3: I don't believe why, like, should we stop wearing baseball hats,
Speaker 3: should we stop wearing tims?
Speaker 1: Hating on my hair? They'd be out there, I see you,
Speaker 1: they hate on your hair.
Speaker 4: The fact that, yeah I got that too.
Speaker 2: Definitely for your painting this ship right, definitely, little pain,
Speaker 2: little paint later.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, little.
Speaker 4: Seven. You know, but you know where he should he
Speaker 4: should be able.
Speaker 3: To do what the he wanted to do, exactly, bottom line,
Speaker 3: bottom line, he should be able to do what he
Speaker 3: wants to do.
Speaker 1: Take a sip for that, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Definitely, I didn't. I didn't plan out to be this drunk. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we we planned out for you to be got.
Speaker 1: We've been through. I'm gonna just be honest with you, man.
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of you. Man.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you to do the thing.
Speaker 3: Continue to smile, man, absolutely especial when you get new
Speaker 3: tea paid.
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, we can tell let's got but but man,
Speaker 1: like you know everything you've been through, everything you and
Speaker 1: to be here and just to still be that guy
Speaker 1: man and still be holding it down and still be
Speaker 1: able to smile.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Because I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: As a person I lived in every form of rap game.
Speaker 1: I know how hard this ship is. Like even when
Speaker 1: you even when we at the best of our best,
Speaker 1: that shit is still hard because we can't never it's
Speaker 1: not we can never turn it in our uniform. The
Speaker 1: uniform is twenty.
Speaker 4: Four hours because that's how people see you.
Speaker 1: That's how people see you.
Speaker 4: And you can never live that down.
Speaker 1: You could never live that down. So you know, to
Speaker 1: to continue to be successful, continue to be out there,
Speaker 1: continue to smile, continue to work, continue to do that.
Speaker 1: Like I just want to let you know, like we
Speaker 1: admire you, we respect you, and we want That's why
Speaker 1: we wanted to give you a flowers.
Speaker 4: Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and especially and especially like being a
Speaker 1: street person. So like when I like kind of like
Speaker 1: to you know me, I was researching you and I
Speaker 1: kept going back like six years ago. See how many
Speaker 1: people were like baiting you, like I mean by baiting you.
Speaker 1: Was like they're like, yo, man, it's known for this this.
Speaker 1: So then what I did was I went and I
Speaker 1: pulled up ah you on like white people's shows, and
Speaker 1: I said this it's because it's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I seen what what like MV like my man, I
Speaker 1: mean man, like certain like when I was watching your
Speaker 1: interviews that I watched black then I watched and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to you know, trying to be official,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when I see you
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, you know how to do that?
Speaker 1: Think about this is your gift, my brother in just
Speaker 1: in case you don't know, you know how to move
Speaker 1: in difference audiences. You know how to move a different
Speaker 1: our gifts. Man, that's a real gift, bro. Like, don't
Speaker 1: don't downplay that, like, don't ever like acknowledge that. Like
Speaker 1: I was watching it you because I want to do
Speaker 1: my job. But I'm like I'm looking at it. I'm
Speaker 1: like that's not something that you have to teach that
Speaker 1: to yourself.
Speaker 3: Right, That comes from Yeah, my bad, that's a false
Speaker 3: sense of of of learning.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So it's like, I adapt to every room that I'm in, right,
Speaker 4: no matter what room that I'm in.
Speaker 3: Prison allowed us the time to like read things, study things,
Speaker 3: and stff like that. So it's like, if I'm in
Speaker 3: a peaceful room, I'm peaceful. If I'm in a room
Speaker 3: on some bullshit, then I'm with that too. If I'm
Speaker 3: on a room that's that's. If I'm in a room
Speaker 3: that's about progression, then that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: That's what we're on.
Speaker 3: Adaptation, adaptation, right, Being able to adapt, that's the way
Speaker 3: you stay here. We ain't always gonna be hot. Niggas
Speaker 3: gonna be like, oh you washed up, you old nigga,
Speaker 3: You ain't who you used to be. But that don't
Speaker 3: define you. You still gotta you still got to be
Speaker 3: able to turn those corners. So being able to adapt
Speaker 3: to the times, to be able to adapt to climate,
Speaker 3: to be able to adapt to the wounds that we're in.
Speaker 3: No nigga, that's me, but.
Speaker 1: I mean that's not normal. Like you, you're a genius
Speaker 1: man like, trust me. Like I I was. I was
Speaker 1: taking a jog this morning. Well, my boy Henry, and
Speaker 1: I was watching all your interviews, watching it all, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this dude is mad smart like
Speaker 1: and it made me mad that six years ago people
Speaker 1: well that's all they were saying, Oh, you're a street dude,
Speaker 1: your dude, and I'm looking at your progress to where
Speaker 1: you're at. I'm like, yo, man, you you're a smart dude.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 3: Me being a street nigga is st is a footnote
Speaker 3: in my life. Bro, that's a little that's a small
Speaker 3: part of my life. You know what I'm saying. Look,
Speaker 3: that ain't that ain't gonna be ever be something that
Speaker 3: I denied. That ain't ever gonna be something that I'm
Speaker 3: ashamed of. That where I come from, what I come from,
Speaker 3: what I've been through the issues that I had. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that also helped define you, right, because what you've
Speaker 3: been through helped shopping you in a certain way to
Speaker 3: make you who you are. Right, whatever it's meant to
Speaker 3: be will be. So it's like, yeah, I've been through prisons,
Speaker 3: I've been through wars, I've been through.
Speaker 4: I've been through extreme violent situations. Right, L l told
Speaker 4: me this.
Speaker 3: LL told me say, Yo, don't let your past failures handcuffed.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I said what you mean?
Speaker 3: He said, Then you might drop a wht album. It
Speaker 3: won't sell, But the fuck that keep going. Nigga, act
Speaker 3: like act like you did. Nigga, act like you just
Speaker 3: went platinum. Don't let your past failures and that and
Speaker 3: that that that's attributed to every angle of life. If
Speaker 3: you didn't been in prison, you've been in the street.
Speaker 3: Like just because you started one way, that doesn't determine
Speaker 3: how you finish. So what we've been involved in this,
Speaker 3: that don't mean that we can't put our suits on
Speaker 3: and sit in these rooms and talk to these.
Speaker 4: People about life and build on some progress. They don't
Speaker 4: mean that. It don't mean that at all, my nigga.
Speaker 1: You know, man, I can't thank you enough. Man, I
Speaker 1: thank you. Man. I wanted to give your flowers.
Speaker 3: Man, thank you, thank you for giving me my motherfucking flowers.
Speaker 3: I never had too many flowers.
Speaker 4: And the fog.
Speaker 3: I want to put you on somethingcause I'm here. I'm
Speaker 3: down here for the weekend because a friend of mine
Speaker 3: is just open up a restaurant in Miami and it is.
Speaker 4: Probably going to be the top restaurant in the city.
Speaker 1: Talk about it. It's called Neuveau.
Speaker 3: Shout out to my people, Ebony Caro, Shout out the wrong.
Speaker 3: Shout out the Yandy because she's involved with that. It
Speaker 3: was yes, big grand opening last night, and this is
Speaker 3: why I'm down here, We out here celebrating that. You
Speaker 3: seeing what I'm saying is it's in one what Okay?
Speaker 3: So it's right here, right here there, right here, it's
Speaker 3: New Veau. What I'm telling you, the food is good.
Speaker 1: You like y'all?
Speaker 4: Come on, I've been right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's go. Absolutely, you can do that. All right,
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