WEBVTT - Episode 487 w/ Maino 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:13.480 He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:16.920 He's a legends every Queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.200 He ain't agreed as your boy in o R. He's 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.919 a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d J 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:22.599 e f N. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.599 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.760 you know what I mean. And the most professional unprofessional 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.640 podcast and your number one source for drunk drink chans, mother. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.840 Post ds New Year's c that's it's time for drink champs. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:44.720 Drink up, motherfuck motheruck what it could be? Hoping s 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:44.920 to be? 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.320 This is your boy n A O N A A 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:47.960 what ups d J e f N. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:49.519 And this is s Midle Tamy crazy war. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:50.760 Yeah it. 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.320 Now now I can't I couldn't wait to get this 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.120 brother his flowers. Not only is he a rapper, now 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.760 only is an archibal now now only even a reality 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.440 star new podcast, our father soon to be husband. We 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.720 heard you know what I mean? This man, this man 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.080 got hits after hits. Someone's looking and I'm like, wow, 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.720 I wanted to see him on versus this. We We're 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:17.720 gonna give him his flowers today. In case you don't 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.040 know who the fuck we're talking about. One holy mother. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.679 You got a lot of hit records, bro underrated, Yo, yo, 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.560 did who would you want to battle in versus? 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.440 I kept saying I wanted to battles your button. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.319 Sure, now that's uneven, that's uneven. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.040 Yeah, you know what it was. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.880 We had an issue on on Clubhouse. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.520 You got is a lot of people. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:44.600 It was on Clubhouse. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.000 It was it was a play issue, like like we 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.080 was battling songs on Clubhouse. Remember we was on quarantine. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:51.960 We ain't had nothing to do with. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.120 It was back then. We were just having fun, you 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:56.680 know what I mean. 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.320 And I'm playing my songs and then he kind of 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.160 up up on me because I wasn't counting my songs. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.800 So I saved my my best for last. But I 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.359 went over he was doing ten and in Wow. So 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.239 I had a thing for like, Yo, listen, we're gonna 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.560 do the real one, a real verse and Joe. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.959 But I don't think your body's gonna come out I 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.320 don't think he's gonna come out of the house for that. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.880 That's what that's what got. So listen, let's get into 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.600 the beginning, right because going through your records, uh, it 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.280 said on I believe remember me that you wasn't rapping 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:31.240 until you went to jail. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.959 So how does that happen? I never rapped, Broka, I 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:35.600 never raped. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.919 I never had no aspirations, no dreams about being a 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.360 rapper here as a kid. You know, we were growing 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.560 up in a time. We fans a Big Daddy came 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.480 Rock Cam and all that. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:44.799 We were from that era. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.040 But I wasn't sitting around like yo, I want to 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.320 be a rapper. So when I went to prison, I 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.680 was it didn't dawn on me right to ever start rapping. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.359 And you know, I was getting a lot of trouble 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.240 all the time, always in the box, always having issues 0:02:59.280 --> 0:02:59.799 and stuff like that. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.160 And I'm always having conflict with other young black men. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.600 So in the box that's when you started, right now, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:07.280 twenty three. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.519 Hours a day. At that time, I think I was 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:10.040 doing a year. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:11.399 Are you straight? 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:12.160 You're straight? 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.000 Yeah, you're straight in the box right. And it was 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.720 a Friday night. I heard niggas on the gate, you know, rapping. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:18.639 You know, niggas be on the gate. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:19.519 They was getting it in. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.639 One nigga's bigging on the balls. Another niggas rapping, and 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.600 I was like laying on my bed like damn, this 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.239 shit sounds crazy. And I said to myself, when I 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:30.760 get up in the morning, I'm gonna write me around. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.040 And I wrote my first rhyme that Saturday morning. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.080 Remember your first round. It was some. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.640 It was it was some stressed out like I'm sitting 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:44.200 in the cell, living in hell something to that. Definitely, 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.040 it was heavily influenced by pop Definitely to me at 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.880 that time, he was he was speaking that black male 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.280 experience like no other. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:58.000 You know what's funny, My first I was rapping before, right, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.880 But when I I it to Malcolm xIC ship and 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.160 Malcolm X said, uh that he used to read with 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.080 the light the cell like at the nighttime. I used 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.320 to write Royn's but I used to never want people 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.320 to know that, right, So you know, people used to 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:13.760 come up myself and be like, what are you doing 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.400 on the floor, like you know what I'm saying? Like 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.320 I was like, and my first battle was against I know, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.159 just do hasty story every time I bring it up. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.880 We're in the yard and this guy named be Wise. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.400 He was names Wise and all of the Bronx dudes 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.240 was with him, in order of the Brooklyn dudes were me. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.760 And because it was it was called be House. It's 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.360 only Brooklyn and Bronx. Dude. I don't know how Queens 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.400 Nigga was in there. I don't know why right, But 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:37.960 in my first time I remember it, I was like, 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.240 I said, I don't give a fuck. When I was six, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.320 I did a stick up in a Tonka truck and 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.080 the whole yard went to crazy and there was that moment. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:46.560 From that moment, I was like, I'm gonna be a 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:47.640 you know what I'm saying. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.080 I knew at that point. I knew that I knew I. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.600 Was addicted to the crowd, like like getting that attention. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.920 So when was when you got to remind us what 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.200 your rap name was? No? 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.040 No, no, no, that was my rap name then that's 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.839 my very first rap name. He did always laugh at 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:01.760 my and see y'allho with the ball de berean. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:04.920 Y'all. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.080 So when it was it? When was it? Because you 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.360 know every you know everybody who write a rhyme and 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.720 ye come a rapper? When was it? You was like, Yo, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.880 I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna take the series. Wasn't 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:16.799 in the can or wasn't. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.000 When you when I was in the cam when I 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.720 first started doing it, you go understand, I'm stealing in 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.760 the box, right, and I'm at that point, it was 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.760 just like something to pass the time, right, you know, 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.840 because what you're doing in the box, you're doing push ups, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.400 sit up, you're sleeping, you're writing a letter like you 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.360 ain't doing much, you know, sleeping half the day. So 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.680 I was like, if I get up and write a 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.480 rhyme by the end of the day, like it's gonna 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.680 it's gonna take some of the day away. So I 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.360 started thinking about it, like, man, maybe I could go 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.600 home and be a rapper, right, And then I was 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.840 at the same time I would say that, I was like, hell, no, 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.560 ain't no rapper. But I was so insecure about that 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.080 because nobody, nobody knew me for that. You understand, people 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.560 had already had their perception of who I was. I 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:03.680 was a little popular back then, right, and now that 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.040 I'm saying that I'm a rapper, and this is the 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.839 time when nigga niggas like we ain't no rapper. Nigga 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:09.479 like rappers want to. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.160 Be like us, you understand. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.400 So didn't I didn't build up that confidence into. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.159 Some years later because I was afraid. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.200 To tell people that that So if I was five, six, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.120 seven years and at this point, if a nigga would 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:24.800 have asked me what I was doing when I came home, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.120 and I would have said, I'm gonna come home and 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.000 be a rapper, and they would have said, nigga, what 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.480 I would have never done it. Y'all have never met me, 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.680 because that's how insecure I was about it. Because I 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.960 would have anybody that respected me would have told me, man, 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.200 you ain't no rapper. I would have said, you know what, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.440 You're right, I'm not fuck am I doing? So I 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.320 kept it to myself. I kept to myself until I 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:57.359 get that time nineteen twenty. I'm younger and I'm picking 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.240 it up, you know. But I didn't think that this 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.400 was a long shot. Niggas wasn't coming home becoming rappers. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.400 That wasn't a thing yet, you know. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:13.640 Right, So we're going through So how did you get 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:14.280 how did you get that? 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:14.360 For? 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:15.560 Was it Atlantic Records? 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:20.920 Your first My first major label deal was with Universal 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:27.080 through through uh Motown Sylvia Loan Oh Wow Tone from 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.120 track Master Soign. So I had the song rumors on 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.920 if you remember, that was a song that put me 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.720 in a game, right, That was that was my hit 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.160 in that era because when I came out, I jumped 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.960 into the DVD right, that was the mixtape DVD time right, 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.320 and it was just like the mixtape was the thing 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.400 because I was up North and I was like listening 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.720 to everybody that was on the clues. I was hearing 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.120 all y'all right, and I'm like, damn, if I could 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.080 just make it to the clues, I'm lit I made 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.080 it because I felt like everybody that was on a 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:56.960 clue tape made it. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.440 Me too, Like I didn't didn't. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.920 He thought it's gotta be reached, know what I'm saying. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.160 So I when when I got out, I was just like, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.720 you know, jumping right into that, into that error right there, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.000 and that's that's kind of like how I kind of 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.080 got it started right there. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.720 And then the universe was signing. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.200 First, Universal signing first. So how did you get to Atlantic? 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:22.840 Was that through t I? 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.200 No, I got dropped, Get I gotta dropped? Okay, yeah 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.400 you gotta you know, you gotta go through it. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.520 But you got a bad go right, Yeah, they paid 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:31.800 me out, paid the player. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.599 Okay, then. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:38.760 You know what I mean. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.000 It hurts your confidence. So I was I was I 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.320 was around Kim, and Kim was, you know, opening up 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.959 her doors for me. I was coming around, and you know, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.240 I was I was starting to, you know, get a 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.640 real peak at what with what being a superstar artist is. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.199 And then I and I made the song Rumors I 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.520 got signed the University. Now I'm thinking in that era, 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.280 my my understanding of what the game is is like, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.040 once you get signed, the label just gonna make you 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:06.600 this big star. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:08.360 Oh yeah, I. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.520 Didn't know that. Nobody. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.120 Nobody came to me and said, listen, this is the 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.679 time when you need to work even harder. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.559 Oh yeah. So I'm just like waiting for it to 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:16.959 kick in. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.360 I'm like, where's one on six in PARP, Like where's 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.640 the MCV, Like where's these big records? Like, and I'm 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.599 sitting there away and I'm doing I'm still doing me. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.280 But I don't think that I had the mind state 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.880 to understand that I was. I should have been working 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:37.000 working harder, even harder. And one day my lawyer called 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.040 me and was just like, hey, uh, they said they 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.920 they're good on you like that, he said, basically, now 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.080 he said it like that, but they don't want they 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:47.839 want to let you go. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:52.760 And something in me was just like, well, all right, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:53.680 fucking cool. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.280 I was in Atlanta. I was just like, I got 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.719 that news. He said, listen, but I got a check 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:01.280 for you. So I went you got my check. I 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.240 told Tone about it. Tone was like, Noah, I'm gonna 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:03.800 see what's going on. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:04.800 I was like, no, I'm good. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.160 Don't worry about it. I'm good because at this at 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.000 this point, I'm signed like two years, a year and 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.719 a half at least, nothing really happened for me. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:13.360 You know, they dropped me. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:14.720 So now I'm back in the hood. I'm at Ryo 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.120 House on one roll doing records again in the hood. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.160 No more budget, no more Sony, no more, no more, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:22.800 no more interns running. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.480 Full budget, none of that. So I had to I 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:26.760 had to. 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.679 Dig back in and and and work my you know, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:30.640 working working back. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.000 How you didn't get discouraged, That's. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.520 A good question. I kind of felt like it did 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:38.160 bother me, though. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:38.280 Bro. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.000 If I set up here and tell you that, I 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.320 wasn't bothered, because it bothers your spirit because you feel 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.000 like you made it. And this is a time when 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.319 we when I was attributed getting a record deal, Like 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:54.079 like I just went to the NBA just got a 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:54.760 record deal. 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.640 The like I made it. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:04.280 Only only the best niggas get a real record deal. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.080 I had been in, I had been in, I had 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.040 been out for eighteen months. Wow, after doing ten years, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:10.920 I got my first record. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:11.920 Wow. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:13.480 So yeah, it hurt me. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.800 It hurt me a little bit, but I knew that 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:15.880 I had to figure it out. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.800 Wow. You know, I wanted to show you a story. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.240 This is real funny because I had already kind of 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.559 like the had platinum records. But I'm moving out to 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.640 death Jam. So we moving to Depth Jam and IRV 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.560 Gotty is downstairs in the lobby. IRV God. He looks 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.280 at me and goes, I don't think you made it. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.400 And I look at him, like you, I hate them. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.280 But he was like, yo, he was giving me the game. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.040 I didn't know at this time. He was like, Yo, 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.079 don't drop your guards because you got depth Jam. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.160 So is that what you're saying, like that's one hundred 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.640 Yeah yeah, because you listen, I'm sitting in the day 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:54.120 room imagining what it felt like to be a nigga 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:55.280 shooting these videos. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:56.720 And you remember it was it was a. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.240 Thousand what is this a break budget for videos? 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:01.480 Back? 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.400 Then yeah, budgets were crazy, mister Lee. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.520 They gave me water. It's a prank joke. Why did 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.280 they give me water? My bad? I have to start 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.480 Wait a minute, what is going on here? They trying 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.760 to help me? The hell's going on? Yeah? 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.280 Take your time, my bad. You So, so I'm looking 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.120 at these videos. I'm looking at one on six in Paul. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.920 We're looking at Rapid City, and I'm just like, that's 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.360 the life I want. I'm wanna get away from this ship. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.160 I wanna get out these streets and get away from 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.840 this jail ship. I want to be one of them niggas. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:37.559 So so you think that you associate success with the 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.320 glitz of it, the loft, the likes, the looks, the outfits, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:42.480 the jury, you know. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:42.840 What I mean. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.760 So when I got out and I got my first 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:49.240 record deal, I'm like, I made it. If somebody would 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:53.320 have said to me, what got to you? I would 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.959 have snapped out of it, even though I knew I 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:56.959 was working, I still was working, but I would have 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.000 had I would have went at it. The mind state 0:12:59.040 --> 0:12:59.360 would have. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.960 Been a lot better to plus the label politics too. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.800 Definitely, Once you learn that, once you learn that, you 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.040 gotta really. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:07.920 Like there's camps in there that. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.319 It's all this camps. Then then you gotta have like 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.960 somebody really like a bodyguard. You gotta have somebody really 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.720 pushing for you, an executive and that's really going now 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.520 he the guy and really every day because they got 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.040 to roster up with different artists, they don't always have 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.480 the answers, they don't really know what to do, and 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.000 the times was changing, so it was just like. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:29.719 Did I make it? 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.719 So when you get dropped, you like you start to 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.520 doubt yourself. Am I really that good back of the hood? 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:35.920 All right? 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:36.599 You know? 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.720 Now around a little bit because you just recently went 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.160 to Saint Thomas and sometimeas Saint Croix, and you got 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.280 family out there, Saint Coury, got a little bit of 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.559 Port Rican's out there. They do. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.000 No, my family is from St. Thomas in listen, listen, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.000 I spent the whole summer in Saint Croix when I 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.960 was a kid. Okay, so my mother, my mother's mother 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.680 and fall the both from the Virgin Islands. Now, what's 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:07.240 funny is that my grandmother had Puerto Rican relatives like. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.959 I do have Puerto Rican a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:16.360 I can see it. I never talked about it, but absolutely, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.920 you don't start claiming you made Come on, let's do it, man. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.800 I got, I got, I got, I got cousin's named Felix. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.280 Yeah I know Felix, I know him. Yeah, so real. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.000 So how was that experience because that was your first 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:33.280 time going back as now you man star. And then 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.400 I found one of my uncles. Okay, thank you. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.560 I found one of my uncles randomly. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.360 Or so I knew. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.200 I knew my grandfather had like twenty kids. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:43.440 That's annoy. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.040 My grandfather wasn't nothing to be played with, at least 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.720 I think twenty they got. They got it around like 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:53.600 seventeen eighteen. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.240 But I had to be so. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.080 But I knew the name my last my mother, his 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.720 maiden name was Ingerman, so that was my grandfather's name. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:06.600 So when I went out at the same time as 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.720 I was like asking around about Ingerman and everybody was 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.320 telling me about this John Ingerman, and I was like, 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.440 he got to be related to me. So I got 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:14.920 in contact with him. I was like, I think, I 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.520 think I'm your relative. And he asked me who my 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.680 mother was, and I was like, my grandfather was was 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.200 you know, was Joseph Ingerman, and he said, man, that 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:23.720 was my father. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:24.280 I'm your uncle. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:26.480 So I found my mother brother. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.480 Online no over over texts, okay, okay, okay. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.280 When I got the Saint Thomas earlier last year, you know, 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.640 so I actually found him and then we met up 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:37.040 and everything. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.120 I met some of my relatives. This is my mother's 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:40.520 brother who she never met. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:41.160 Wow. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.200 Wow, it was that yeah, yoh man, And. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:51.360 I'm a little bit go ahead. Would you ever do 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:52.240 love of hip hop again? 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.880 I mean it's all business though, bro right, So everything 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.080 is about business. If the business was right, then I 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.160 would consider any I would consider. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.360 It, you know, I would do it in the heart 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.160 of the heart of dime. I love it. You love 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:05.960 this executive. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:07.120 I didn't. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.120 I didn't have that same experience. I only did it 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.600 one time. And I felt like they felt like I 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:13.320 stuck them up. 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.360 I feel like because but I. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.920 Felt like that they didn't. They was like, well, we 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.560 wasn't getting nothing from you, and I was kind of yeah, 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:20.720 I was. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.000 I was like, it wasn't. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:23.600 Yeah, I'm not with all that. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.920 They thought they were starting to mainoa deep. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.480 They wasn't get that I was gonna go on TV 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.440 and I act like a monkey like that wasn't gonna 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.160 be that, you know what I mean? So I was 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.480 like trying to control everything, like, nah, she's not gonna 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:36.000 be in that scene. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:37.040 Who she? 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.480 Who she filming with? No, I ain't gonna go who. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.360 You got me feeling it now, I don't be filming 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.080 with these niggas. So they was I was trying to 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.520 Michael manage everything. So I ended up only maybe on 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.240 like seven episodes out of that season. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.320 That's that's kind of because it's pretty fourteen Yeah, yeah, seven. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.160 So what you said you would never do, I'm not 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:56.920 saying I wouldn't. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.200 I'm saying, if the business was right, they got at 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.280 least start me higher than they started me before. Of 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.600 course every season, every season, it goes up. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.399 But so now we got to be, you know, in 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:08.520 another another space. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.879 Yeah, you know, because it was that I had them 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.159 in a good place the first time, you know, and 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.480 they felt like I robbed them. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.080 I think the same thing to me one time for 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.639 Robber stick up? 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.640 How many people ask you for a million bucks after 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:26.720 you dropped that Swiss worcond? 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:27.000 How many? 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.960 How many people ask you for a million bucks? All up? 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:32.280 Like this? 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.240 Yeah, we printed up. We printed up like one hundred 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.720 dollars bills with my face on it, and then we 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.200 go to the shows and like throw it out people. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.200 They was taking them money and taking out for that 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.520 many times throwing money got your. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:58.720 We thought it was real money. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.880 You know how people are they people they want real money, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:01.840 of course for real. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.000 But because I was like, damn, that was mad pressure. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.679 That must have been mad pressure, especially your family members. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.040 You're giving million, give it to your family. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.119 I always felt like, man, maybe we should have changed it. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.560 I feel like a million million, But I think I 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.600 feel like a million bucks, Like maybe we should have 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:17.000 changed that. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:18.960 I think I think that even if you would have 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.960 changed it, would have said the same shit, like you 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:27.280 give it out a million bucks, buddy, damn. So do 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.800 you still love do you love this game? The game? 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:31.400 I don't love. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:36.680 I don't absolutely love the business of the game. I 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.960 love the art of it. I love to to create something, 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.959 you know, to see something that you created then let 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.600 it have a little impacting and performing and just the 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.560 love for the game. In that way, the business of 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.840 it is disheartening, you know what I mean. It takes 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.520 to it the fun, It takes a fight out you like, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:03.800 like god, all listen, right, oh list because you understand, 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.080 like the general public don't understand that. You know, when 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.639 you put out a record, that there's so much that 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.600 has to go into it to make that record a hit. Right, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.320 So they say that records are not made and manufactured. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.800 They you know, it's like they promote it, they market it. Right, 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:22.040 it's a budget, it's. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.000 People, it's a plan. So they think that you just 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:25.960 thrown out does. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.119 They don't understand that that two hundred and fifty thousand 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.159 to go behind it is just not there yeap, you. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:33.760 Know, and you still got to recoup that two hundred 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:34.119 and fifty. 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.560 But nowadays they don't even they're not even. 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:38.320 If you not. 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.920 In that top algorithm, you no top ten percent of 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.359 artists like us like a Drake or Nigga, Like you 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.200 can't get paid for that two fifty more. They not 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.320 even they're not even doing that. Wow, they're not putting 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.320 out they're not getting behind a rap record with that 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:54.400 type of money. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.119 No more. No, it's crazy that when they say that 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.480 rap wasn't in the top billboard this year. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:05.040 I've been seeing that, like how does that happen? And 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.639 when we are the most influential. But I feel like 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.400 we influenced the world and everybody took pieces of hip hop, 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:17.119 and then certain genres might be even more bigger. I 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:22.280 think afro beats is like world music, like them bowld relative, 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.359 the Latin is huge, you know what I'm saying. But 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.840 I feel like all those have ingredients and elements of 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:31.280 hip hop. 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:31.680 Right. 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.399 But it's also what you're saying that if the labels 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.119 ain't pushing it, you're not going to see them in 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.280 the billboard. I mean, the music isn't out there because 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:38.639 you know, the artists aren't making a. 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.800 Great, great music. What it is is to me, I 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.800 think the labels just got lazy and they want the 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.600 artist that's already They're looking for people that's like already 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.119 got They not deping artists no. 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.359 More, no development, development, and all that is over because 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.280 you know what all of the departments that they had 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.399 to develop an artist, like let's just say like media training, right, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:20:59.680 they don't they're not doing that. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.439 Artists, development, development, none of that right. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.320 So it's just like you gotta come as is you 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.159 because it's about the algorithm. So if you don't have 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.920 the numbers to match what you're doing we ain't fucking 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.400 with it, and you might pass up on an artist 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.240 that really got it, because before it was about your talent. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:22.359 It was like, damn, this is the next such and such, 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.240 this is the first such and such, This is this guy? 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:25.720 Is it? 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.080 Whether that was R and B, whether that was wrapping 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.600 female rappers, young rapper, it didn't matter if you had it, 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.080 they were They was willing to invest in it and 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.680 kind of make you a stuff. They're not making out. 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.800 They're not making them stars a moment at all. 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:45.159 They because they're stupid. Sorry, record loads, but sorry, but 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.359 they kind of kind of like you. 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:48.480 Said, they want turnkey artists. 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.439 The money, right, it's about the money though. It's easier 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.720 for them to get behind something than it is to spend, 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.200 you know, a million and a half per artist just 0:21:58.240 --> 0:21:58.919 to build them up. 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.920 And you know what's crazy with Leo. I spoke to 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.320 Leo the other day and Leo said, this is still 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.119 this is still the easiest game to get in right 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.000 hip hop, because he said, right now you used to 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.000 have to pay for the album covers, Like right now 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:14.680 we could just take a picture. You don't even have 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:16.840 to pressure off up the album cover. You remember how 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.480 much that she used to cause the press c a 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.119 fucking like, like your budget was done before you. You 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.359 didn't even drop. You was already in the red right 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:28.119 now as you got director consume on, like if you 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.880 got and you could just hit that button and it's 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.480 direct That's what Leo are saying. He's like, yo, you 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.240 know for seasonal artists. Yeah, He's like, it's the best 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:36.879 time for us. 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:38.639 That's the best thing to do right now. 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:40.800 And I was just having a conversation the other day 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.320 direct consumer, because if you built up a base, if 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:44.680 you got if. 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:45.879 You got one hundred people that love you. 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.200 A hundred times ten, talk to it going, yeah, you're gone, 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.760 speak to them, give it to them. They understand because 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:58.879 the days of them nurturing artists and making them you know, 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.439 Mary J. Blige in Leasha Keys, I don't know if 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:02.960 we're seeing that. 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:04.960 No more, you know it. What's the ill shit about 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.760 doing this podcast is we could actually see the algorithms. 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.919 Remember back in the days. Sorry sounds like the old guy, 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:11.800 remember the back of the day. Sorry it sounds like that, dude, 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:15.159 But hey, lucky to be Remember we used to go 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.360 on tour, and when you go on tour, they will 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.800 send you on like thirty two states, fifteen of them 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.080 states didn't matter what were you doing in Kentucky When 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.440 you ain't selling not won unit in Kentucky and you 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:27.280 can't win over the whole fucking state, They're just not 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.600 fucking with you. Just avoid. It's not no disrespect and 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.520 no beep to that. But it's like, and nowadays you 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.760 could actually see you don't have to waste your time. 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.320 You don't have to go to Milwaukee. If you're not 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.359 letting Milwaukee you have you can stick with your algorithms 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.920 to stick with New York is my market, Philly is 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:48.359 my market, Delaware is my market, Connecticut, and so on 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:49.680 and so on and so forth. 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.720 So that's the good thing about I. 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.879 Think that's the advantage if you know how to do that. 0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:57.920 Right, right the metrics right, because the metrics shows that 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:02.040 exactly where right, you know, you may have some impact. 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:02.480 Right. 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.200 It also shows your. 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:11.000 Your age range, uh, your you know what what what 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.640 you know agenda right, so it shows you a little 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:16.040 bit of everything. 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.000 So now you're able to to kind of like go 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:20.120 right directly there. 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.840 Yeah, I love that. I love that you're still out partying. 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.040 You used to be every night. I'm still. 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:32.000 I'm still, I'm still. I haven't retired. I haven't retired. 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.560 You know, I'm still like a good time. You know, 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.399 we're not partying aimlessly though we're not. 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:39.600 We're not. 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:41.919 Oh man, last time with me and you was here 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.920 in Miami. I think I told you the story. Me 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:44.119 and you. 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:44.639 We went to. 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.880 Crome on twelve. Okay, okay, we had dinner. 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.400 And I was. I was here. 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.560 I think that was like a Friday night, and and 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.240 and I was doing ship that I had no busessy, 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.000 you had nothing another to do this, but I was. 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.040 I was on one that night. 0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:04.119 I got smoke weed with you. 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:09.720 Yeah yeah, we uh successful exactly. 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.520 And then you know, I was playing around with Miley. 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:13.040 This is Maley. 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.080 I were back then. I'm just playing around. 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:16.240 And loving good Miley. 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:20.120 Story ship I ain't had no business doing. 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:25.080 Ended up and Bob, yeah, molly on mile Man. You 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.000 woke up the next morning the rollie was going home. 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:35.359 Yeah, holy ship, real talk, real talk, real tell that 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:36.080 that's great. 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.960 I always I always know the interview of how it's 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.560 gonna go, by what they order and if they if 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.040 they come late. As soon as I seen you on 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.720 the balcony. I said, this man is coming late. You 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:49.280 feel in Miami? 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.520 Right, you feel it love Miami. Okay, it was only 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:53.040 ten minutes. 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.879 You're usually we got people by that. People do not 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.600 know that I'm not an artist. I'm like, oh, artists, 0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:01.399 I'm be like, oh. 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.280 You know, I'm I'm I'm real serious about time. So 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:09.720 if I if I'm late, it's because something kind of 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.040 got in my way a little bit, because I measured 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.800 time really good and it's important for me, like I 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.080 tell my son all the time, like you have to 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:17.760 be always on time. 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:19.560 Don't let nobody use that as an excuse. 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:21.760 Right, So let me like I said, I'm bouncing my 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:26.560 ends a little bit. Like a year and a half ago, right, 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.200 I had said that I wouldn't interview somebody, right, but 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.160 because of my relationship with other artists, and I said, 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.560 I said, I just couldn't do it. I have to 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.360 look at this man and dinners at times with fact, 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.160 why would I go interview his enemy? 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:40.440 Right? 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:46.200 Jamel Hill tweeted me and said I thought me and 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.159 Jamel Hill was cool, but she tweeted me and she 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.760 was like, this is why you're not really a journalist. 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.960 And at first I took it wrong. I wanted to 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.359 hit back and play motherfucker, but then I thought about it. 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.760 I was like, you're right, I do have a certain 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:03.360 type of loyalty that prevents me from being a full 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:04.400 fledged journalist. 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.640 Is that something you feel like, I ain't no journalists 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:08.600 at all? 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:09.080 Journalists? 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.119 Yeah, yeah, I'm not. 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.160 I am not a journalist, right, I am not one, right, 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:20.280 And I don't even want to confuse that. Just because 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.440 somebody speaks on a mic and maybe you know, do 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.919 a podcast, you know, may may even affiliate with himself 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.919 with the radio, that doesn't mean or make you an 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.000 absolute journalist. I think that's a for the real journalists 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.280 out there that really that's a professional. That's a profession. 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.440 They went to school and they you know, and ain't 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.280 really living that life. That's for them that I ain't that. 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:46.040 Right, Like like they always give me an example, they say, oh, well, 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.720 like more reposing them. They interviewed the cuts Klans, And 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.520 I was just like, you know, like they they'll give 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.520 me examples like that. I don't want to interview no rapists, 0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.520 like I don't want to, Like I'm sorry, Like I 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.880 got to mind, Like if I know there's certain things 0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.199 that you said, like a. 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.560 Real true journalist when it comes to journalism, they don't. 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.240 They don't, they don't draw online. 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.800 Yeah, you interviewing if you're white, you can interview fire 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.400 a card if you if you're black, and if you David. 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.960 Duke's or so you're saying as a as a as 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.040 nor usual aligne with certain I do. 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:19.920 I have to man, because I'm not mad at you, 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.440 like like like like I would be. I would feel 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.720 bad that someone is sitting in front of me knowing 0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:29.600 to me and you got a great relationship and then 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.040 they're shitting on you and then me even trying to 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.160 stop them because at times like and you're gonna. 0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:35.800 Learn more and more. 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.440 You've been in media for some time since Kitchen Talk, 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.680 You've been doing this, so I know you've been learning more. 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.320 But sometimes you are guilty by association. 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.600 There's nothing wrong with that. I feel like that because 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.280 we we pick our sides. Bro. 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:50.520 It is what it is like. 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.000 Let me tell you something. If me and you getting money, 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.000 our families know each other. You have you pulled my 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.640 crib on thanksgiving up? You know, we busting bags together. 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.680 We have business relationship as well as a working one. 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:10.080 It's in me to honor that. It ain't in me 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.000 to with that type of relationship. 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:17.280 To to to congregate with anybody that that you feel 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.360 like you got a problem with, that's just not in me. 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:19.920 I'm not. 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.280 That doesn't make me have a problem with the other person, understand, 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.800 But I don't want to congregate with the people that 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.520 you don't fuck with because I want to honor that relationship. 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.480 I think it should be more of that, Like let's 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.400 jor like niggas. I don't pick sized niggas. What are 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.160 you talking about? When you don't pick size, the side get. 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:36.400 Picked for you. 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:38.800 And if you if you're supposed to be my man, 0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.520 you under some dude's comments like it his ship. 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.440 Yeah, I'm judging you, bro, What the fuck? Why would 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.920 you be liking that? Listen, that's only really started really 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:52.600 with some internet ship. And I don't like to always 0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.200 attribute attribute things to the street because I didn't. 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:56.680 I didn't been many places since then. 0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:01.240 But like, if you beefing on an and you and 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.440 he's a serious guy, right, he's already saying hisself, yeah, 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.840 glory be with Maine on every day. So when I 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:08.720 see man, what's. 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:09.120 Up with him too? 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:11.160 The side get picked for you. 0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:12.360 Right. 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.440 Nobody's saying maybe he don't got nothing to do with it. 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.840 People already associate you. You're guilty by the association, my association. 0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.800 So but you gotta if that's the person you fuck with, 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.160 own it, Yeah, own it. This is I funck with 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.360 this person, good, bad, indifferent. 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.120 It is what it is. Okay, switching up a little bit. 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.560 You know you're you're on a national radio station. Yeah, 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:43.760 with Angela, Right, and she lives by those rules. Journeys, 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.200 she's a journey. She can be taken as a journalist. 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.440 Would there ever be a time where she's interviewing somebody 0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.400 and you're there? Would you not show up? Or how 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.200 would you handle it with somebody I ain't with you, 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.000 ain't fucking with all somebody one of your people who 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:56.440 ain't fuck with? 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:57.720 Yeah, I just want to go. 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.680 Yeah, I think that's the right cho But she me 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:04.520 and her had had have had conversations where she wouldn't 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.880 do it certain interviews with certain people's if she really 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.840 fucked with the person like she honest her friendships, you 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.240 know what I mean. And it all depends on the 0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:15.880 people and it and it kind of depends on the 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:16.479 problem too. 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:17.840 That's what I'm about to say. 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:19.000 It depends on the problem. 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.920 If you're telling me, like I'm saying, now, what's up, bro, 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.720 like you want you know you're gonna that this You're like, nah, man, 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.480 I'm not debating it like it is what it is. 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.680 I'm not I'm not pursuing it neither. But I don't 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.040 fun with that person and me and you like that. 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:35.880 I'm gonna let you have that, like you can. 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.360 See when it's real, and you can see when it's 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.440 when it's when it's not real. You know what I'm saying, 0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.920 Like it's giving flowers, give flowers, giving people they fly. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.840 Really know that we're gonna give. 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:45.440 You your flowers. 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:53.600 Man, man, this is nice, But I like this. 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:59.880 Wow, thank you? Yes, absolutely absolutely. So what's your favorite 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.560 performing or making the record? Making it? Making the record? Yeah, 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.600 I thought you said performing performing it? 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:11.800 You know what, Making it is fun because coming up 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.840 with it, performing it is just like when seeing that 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.440 have some impact and then people seeing your words. You 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.160 know what I mean, It's no greater high than that. 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:23.920 There's no greater high. And you know what I mean, 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.760 Holy you bu you know what I meant. Huge records, 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.880 it's no greater feeling than that, you know. But but 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.160 when I was making it, I always like, damn, I 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.160 remember sitting back coming up with these words, you know 0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.000 what I mean. The feeling of of doing that and 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.920 those words becoming something is like. 0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.320 There was even a better feeling. But when you go 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.120 out and perform that record, like your new record don't 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:54.040 work for the first time, but you you performed, that's it, 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:59.000 that's happened to be. This is what the they just 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.560 looked at me, crickets. It was crikeds what they telling 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.320 me you your record. 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:04.680 Is number one? 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.840 And I'm like, there's no ways you doubt it too, 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:09.400 I won't notice it. 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.240 Six months later I came back to that same stage 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:13.960 Or was I so happy I told it? 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.720 It's a different feeling when everybody know your. 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:20.280 Words, yes and you got all right? Only above for 0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.760 lack of a better term, there's people who listen to 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.600 that record who probably don't listen to hip hop. 0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:26.160 It's people that transcend. 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.320 Let me tell you, it's people that listen to that 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:29.840 record that really don't even listen to me. 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:31.160 Wow, you know. 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:34.880 That, I don't know. 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.720 You ain't got nobody, don't get me, don't get me together. 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.000 I just got I just I just got some water. 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:45.280 They got me, they got me, they gave me your water. Yeah, 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.320 let's go, We're going straight to shots. Okay, wow right, 0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.000 oh wow, So but ahead, let's go. So there's people 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.240 that listen to that record. 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.480 That while you don't even listen to me because it 0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.840 kind of crossed the street, you know what I mean. 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.400 So it's like if you if all your songs on 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.760 across the street, and are they really gonna finish? Like 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.680 I got a couple of records that it's like a 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.800 lot of white people, they're like, yeah, man, you know 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.319 that that fucking it above and remember my name? 0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:14.600 Yeah, you know. 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:18.880 When I was in high school, like that was our 0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:19.799 song right there. 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.840 So it's just like, man, that feels good. I performed 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:29.279 that at bob Mitz Fuss. You said, Bob Mitz Fust 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:33.880 and bot Mitz Fast. One of them is for a female, 0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.040 oh ship, one of them is for the male. I think, 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.279 I think, don't quote me if I'm wrong. 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:39.600 I'm wrong. 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.520 I think the bar Mitz Fuss for the for the 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.080 young boy. I think the bat Mitz foot is for 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:44.719 the young girl. 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:52.480 Weddings. I'm talking about Islamic weddings. 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:59.040 Wow, you know, uh, Muslim weddings crazy because it was 0:34:59.120 --> 0:34:59.920 across the street of it. 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:05.680 Yeah, yeah, Jesus you got a quick time. 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:14.880 Oh yeah, I'm in. I'm in. Let's do this, Okay 0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:15.400 you readily? 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:16.960 Yeah, yeah, I'm bad. 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:19.240 Sorry. 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.440 This is our drinking game, man, drinking game. We'll give 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.600 you two choices. Pick one, we're not drinking. If I 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:27.080 don't pick it, then we don't pick it. 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:27.520 We drinking. 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.080 Or if you say both, Okay, you really don't want to. 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.320 Ask, I'm gonna switch up the first one. Go ahead, 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:42.040 the first of one. Jay z or Nahs, jay Z Damn, 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.000 I shouldn't have switched that. I'm trying to get to it. 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:49.719 Go back to the original one, okay, jay z. 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:50.759 Or Caine. 0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:59.800 Damn Caine kind of gave gave us jay Z, but 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.200 I'm gonna save from the legacy jay Z. 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:07.360 Okay nas or l L because you were in like 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:20.640 that light skin category two brown like nas Okay, that's 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:25.520 gonna uncle murder or yeah, y'all uncle murder. 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:27.760 Okay, Swisser, just blaze. 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:29.000 Damn. 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:30.799 Those both of my guys gave me hits. 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:32.279 Take a shot. 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:33.960 I'm gonna take a shot on that. 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.280 Oh I like this one m P or marb deep. 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.720 Hands down mob Deep and I'm from Brooklyn. 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.239 I love human I expect that. 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:47.320 Yeah, I'm a huge. 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:48.120 Mark like that. 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:54.560 You know, none of my guys Yeah those my guys 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.320 is my guys, like but the mab. 0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.759 Yeah, come on man, you're doing it's crazy. And let 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.480 me just say this real quick, because I know it's 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:06.719 going to sound like a little curveball is and I 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.360 know it's going to sound a little curveballersh. But I 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.959 recently started to know how dope mall deep is. Ive 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:22.359 been in the algorithm so long the same. 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.319 Yeah, I'm a huge mab de fan. 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.080 I got it, and I'm grateful that I got a 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.239 chance to tell Prodigy that. I don't know if you 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:33.080 really understood that though, Like I'm really a huge mab 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:33.560 deep fan. 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:39.680 Like that infamous album. Man, that was a whole other level. 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.279 But there I felt like they was really they made 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:46.000 me really take a peek inside the Queensbridge, you know 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:46.480 what I mean. 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.959 Yeah, like that was a time. 0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.000 Yeah, rest peace, Prodigy, definitely. 0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.759 Podcast, Joe and Jada are a million dollars worth the games. 0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:01.600 Joe and Jada, Joe and Jada definitely got last year's 0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.120 Rookie of the Year, and I believe y'all got this 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.200 year is coming up. I'mna give you. I'm gonna give you. 0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.799 I'm gonna say that, y'all mad funny Fab. I knew 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:13.680 how funny you are. I'm so glad that the world 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:15.560 you can see how funny Fab is. 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.160 That is money. Yeah, yeah, such a human. 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.440 And at first, I'm gonna be honest with you because 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.480 Fab is like one of them jay Z type of 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.919 dudes that we don't know nothing about because he says 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.680 a mystique. So I was scared at first. So I 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.719 was like because because you know, And then I was like, damn, 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.480 he's doing it right. He's showing his personality. He's laughing. 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.880 It wouldn't have worked with nobody else to work, I 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.320 had to work with somebody. He was super comfortable, comfortable, 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.400 real relationship with. 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.200 Yes, we're gonna get into that. We're gonna finish quick 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.640 time of slot Young Doug or little Baby. 0:38:49.880 --> 0:39:02.080 Oh Man, Dog Okay Vada or Dave East, mister David. 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.000 Fab or Jada Kiss. 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:12.040 So I'm a home team player, no shot, no fat. 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:16.080 Okay fat yeah, uh Cam or Mace. 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:24.800 I always always like Cam a little more, was more gritty. 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:25.680 It was more for me. 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:30.319 Yeah, definitely locks or clips locks. 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:42.240 Mm hmm, Universal or Atlantic Atlantic, Yes, University man, okay, 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:43.920 IRV God your Chris Lighty. 0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.240 Yeah, they both legends. Rest in peace, Rest in peace. 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:53.799 I'm gonna drink the both of them. 0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.279 Let us go. We're gonna drink them, both of them. 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.839 That's by the both passed away. Rest in peace. Man, 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:09.600 Biggie or Big Point Big you have a met Big. 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:12.759 Years ago like he wasn't he was? 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:25.799 Mm hmm too Parc or Easy Park just gonna say 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.360 easy that was. Yeah, this is one of my favorite questions. 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.080 You have always doubts me on it, Boot Tang or 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:43.320 n w A. Let's drink it. 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.760 Let's do it because they you know what, because I'm. 0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:46.720 Influenced by both. 0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:51.520 I'm influenced by both. Yeah, let's yeah, and they influenced 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:52.400 too class separately. 0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:53.560 This is what I'm saying. We got to do the 0:40:53.600 --> 0:41:00.440 whole shot. You don't have to Yeah, yeah, like you 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:07.319 t I or lud said, you're not gonna stop while 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:17.920 you listen frightening or Gucci man, I'm gonna get at 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:22.480 the Gucci okay that Yeah, it's that influence. 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:31.759 Okay, Nino Brown or Frank White, Nino was a rat. 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.839 Yeah he became a rat. Yeah, that's it. That's all. 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:39.319 He wasn't throughout the whole movie, the whole movie, throughout 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:40.239 the whole movie to the end. 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:46.480 He sucked up the movie. I wasn't born with it. 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:53.040 Smool in my mouth, Hawkins, Right, okay. Premiere Pete Rock 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.800 premiere mm hmm. 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.560 Sean Pete or o dB oh dB. 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:09.879 Ob the MTV raps or video music box, video music 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:10.879 box pants down. 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.319 Yeah, this is all that respect. The last question before 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.080 you get back into the interview. I'm not gonna lead 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:18.600 the witness. I was about to, I'm not gonna leave 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.200 the witness. Loyalty or respect. 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:28.000 You can't have loyalty if you don't have respect. I 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.640 always say that there's no like who you're gonna be 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.719 loyal to if you don't respect it. Let's take a 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.719 shot for that. This is impossible. So it's respect is 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:37.840 the foundation of everything. 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:43.680 Mm hmm. I got a lot of inside questions. 0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.239 That this is dangerous in the middle of the day. 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.400 This is a zoom oh oh, yeah, you requested that 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.400 a little saucy over here real listen, and then you. 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.160 In Miami, so you know you don't go home. You 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:06.719 got a problem, you don't go Yeah, it's it. Yeah, 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:08.719 I did Height thirty in the morning. 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.040 Now you're supposed to be making a Soca album, not 0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:12.680 an album. 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:13.840 But you know what. 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:20.560 I felt like, no playing with When I heard that, 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:21.880 I was like, okay, you know what. 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.000 I went the same Thomas and I was riding on 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:25.520 the float. 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:27.760 You got turned out Thomas turned. 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:29.919 Album. 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:31.160 Yeah, So what. 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.759 Happened was the guy on the mic was it was 0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.480 like it was like so many piece thousands of people outside. 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:38.520 Have you ever been a carnival? 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.440 Thousands of people outside, and and the guys. 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.840 Like let the ambulance, dude back up, give it spast, 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.759 give it spast. I was like, man, that sh sound 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:50.280 like a hook. 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:51.960 I was like, I want to go to the studio, 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.759 and I was like, give it spast. I made a 0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:02.320 Soca record. Man shout out the fan Yo yo and 0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:04.000 and bungee galling man. 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:08.960 I think saved my life, saved my mentality. 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.080 I was used to the tunnel and club speed and people, 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.279 you know, and there's there's no everyone that's partying. They 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.320 dancing all night. Like recently, I just went to UHT 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:25.080 Christner's comedian party. I not forgot how it feels to 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.640 be in a party without ice girls, Like nobody was 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.560 ice growling. I was like, nobody's in here, mad. 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:31.120 I don't like them. 0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:33.920 Nobody's mad. 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:35.640 I like the parties and everybody's happy. 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:37.920 That's what I'm saying. I like those parties like there 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.680 was nobody man. I was like, yo, I'm not good. 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.960 I was like, your hip hop has ruined me, bro, 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.480 Like hip hop has ruined me. Like I'm used to 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:48.920 walking in an event a club, if it's a club setting, 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.160 I'm used to like someone like something happening, something happening, 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.680 and I didn't experience that. Is that what you're gonna 0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:57.280 do with the soca? 0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.520 I like, I like socas is vibes, Like, but you 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.160 know what dope As a hip hop artist, we tap 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:08.760 into everything, you know, Spanish market, like I've made songs 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:13.480 I'm rapping in Spanish right, you know, like it's just culture, bro, 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:18.279 Like you know I've worked with Diamond Platinums, you know 0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:22.200 from Tanzania. You know, he's one of the biggest artists 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.800 coming out of Africa. So It's just like, I just 0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:26.360 think that we could do whatever we want to do. 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.560 Do you ever think did you ever think afrobeasts would 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.239 be here? Like I never knew what it was until 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.200 I heard it, because you're from Brooklyn, and Brooklyn is 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:40.320 heavily reggae heavily you guys, You guys are everybody's like 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:41.440 automatically Jamaican. 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:48.600 If you from Brooklyn, Indian, it was you something you 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.440 should add in you you you you, you know you 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:52.320 from somewhere. 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.880 You know you Jamaican, you you know you're Beijing, you Haitian, 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.759 you something you know? But no, I mean I think 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.920 we influenced by that hip hop was influenced. They said 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:03.160 cool hurt was what jamake it. 0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:04.800 Yeah, yeah, that's his background. 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.920 Make it. Yeah cool hurk man. Wherever you happen, we 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.759 want to get I want to. I want to. 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.080 I want to, Yeah, I want to apologize a cool hurt. 0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:14.279 Oh. 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.799 I just I just want to apologize the cool Hurt man. 0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:19.680 I want to do this because I talked about doing 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:21.520 on my podcast, but I didn't say the name of 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:22.560 who I was talking about. 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.759 Okay, what was you saying the reference to? 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.200 I didn't say anything to him. I never disrespected this man. 0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.440 But I did disrespect him, okay, And I want to 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.600 admit this right here on drink Champs of how I 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:41.879 I knocked his scooter down? What I knocked his scooter down? 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:46.120 His scooter that he was rotten. I'm back into it, 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.840 say mistake. Oh okay, the scooter. It's not like you 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:53.600 just ran up on cool but but I was so 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.399 priud that I couldn't pick it up and I left 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:57.360 it there. He don't know. 0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.719 It's YouTube knows, you know. 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:08.800 People told me. So I apologize going into the school. 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:14.680 It's crazy, man, and I'm sorry man. 0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:28.200 Mother. H Okay, I know we spoke about it briefly, 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.239 but let's rap about it. Let's rap about it. Let's 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.840 before we get there. I forgot you had a podcast. 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.480 And you know also you gotta remember you was coaching 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:39.160 me years ago. 0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:43.840 Yes, you know, so, so how how was it? Because 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.920 kitchen talk was really mainly you, but you really, let's 0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.160 rap about it. You guys are like really like like 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:57.680 the A team A yeah, yeah, so one, how did 0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.279 y'all put that together? And to how do y'all worry 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:01.520 not clashing egos? 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.719 That's the thing, okay, in order to in order to 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.720 have a team effort, you got to lead an ego 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.600 at home. And we and as rappers and as black men, 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.759 we all have that because when we have nothing else, 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:13.840 all we had was our pride. 0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.279 All we had was our ego. You know what I mean, 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:18.879 no money, no nothing in our pocket. 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:19.920 I'm that nigga. 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:22.160 You know you feel you feel that, right. 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:26.200 So I think when you're mature enough to say, look, 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.719 I could still be me and still support you, still 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.440 gonna be able to support you. It don't diminish me. 0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.759 But that come with maturity though, That come with time. 0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.080 And I think that we got to a space where 0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:44.319 we built our relationship over years, you know, us working 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:47.520 out together, hanging out together, like really trying to really 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:51.239 kind of get to know each other, right outside of 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:56.800 just music, you develop a relationship. But also is respect. 0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.240 Remember I told you, respect is the foundation of everything. 0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.439 So I don't want I won't disrespect you, my nigga, 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.400 you know you, my guys, I don't want to disrespect you. 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.719 So so the thing is, that's the only way to 0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:08.239 to to. 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.320 Kind of diminish the ego is to have that that 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:16.759 that level of respect, to understand that you by supporting you, 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:17.680 your nigga. 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:20.640 It doesn't diminish you. It might be a Jim. 0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.200 Jones show, it ain't my show, all right, I'm gonna 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.920 come and support everything ain't got to be about me. 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:28.480 And then when I got something going on, then the 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:32.360 guys will pull up right and support it right. So 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.279 it's a it's a give and take though, and I 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.719 think we're stronger together now. 0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.480 And for the first time, it felt like New York unity. 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:41.759 Man. 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:45.319 Yeah, like the one thing that you know me as 0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.120 a you know, I live in Miami, but I'm my 0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:49.680 heart is in New York because I'm always going to 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:51.680 be in New York. And I love to see us 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.239 work together, like sometimes I love to see us even 0:49:54.280 --> 0:50:01.880 beefing together as long as we like you, you know, 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:08.160 because the one thing certain is and you know, I 0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.640 love Jim and I love cam right, and I know 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.759 it's gonna sound crazy too, but if they were to 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.120 say to me or to anybody, yo, we set this up, 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.240 it feels like it because you like, once they beefing, 0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:26.279 you can't go on Instagram. They own Instagram, both of 0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.400 them they own. You don't never see that. And I'm like, 0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:31.040 if they actually thought. 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:34.120 This out, even though I'm sure it's not. 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.640 I know, but when as fans of them, fans of 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.240 the music, and fans of the of their movement, legacy, 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.120 the legacy of what they did, we would want them 0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.640 to be like, man, this is just playing. He's just playing, 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:51.720 just playing, you know, But nah, yeah, it's real man. 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:53.839 And I love I love both. 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:55.440 I get it, I get it. 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:57.279 I got to I got to go on tour with them. 0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.919 I got to. I didn't even realize that I knew 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:04.759 Cam before him and Jim linked. He said that he 0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.440 had put it on his freestyle. Yeah, with the freestyle 0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:10.600 of clue ironic when you were just speaking about Clue earlier. 0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.480 And then so yeah, man, I hope I hope them. 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.439 I hope them. I wish them brothers the best. Yeah, 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:17.960 what are you doing something like that? Because do you 0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:20.600 get involved or do you just like you can't. 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.440 You can't, you can't do nothing about that. You've got 0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:25.279 to respect that. 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:30.640 You know, relationships are redefined every day, right, you see 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:34.800 what I'm saying. You may start off as a potential 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.920 op with a nigga and end up as an ally 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:42.200 R like I said, almost right. And then we watched 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:46.560 Brothers kind of have relationships that deteriorate, and then we 0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.960 don't like to see that because we understand how how 0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:53.680 important brotherhood is, you know, But when that is happening, 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:57.160 you just gotta just step back and just let that be. 0:51:57.480 --> 0:51:59.799 You know what I mean? Because I'm cool with Cam, 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:04.480 you know, and you know, but first time ever heard 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.640 Cam hm, he was like when it comes to being shot, 0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:09.719 when it comes to me and Jimmy, I'm like me too, 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.440 you see what I'm saying, Like they was they was brothers. 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:17.880 Yeah, I remember that, man, I remember, yeah, I remember. 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:20.640 I would never I would never asked me. I'd have 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:21.200 never thought this. 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:25.040 Who I don't think I don't from a hip hop standpoint, 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.160 and in us being from New York, I don't think 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.719 anybody would have foreseen something like that. 0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:38.520 Mm hmm r. Because it's like for me, I didn't 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.920 know how to handle it. When Compone and Trash we're 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:42.920 going through their ship, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.279 like like me and Trage had went through. 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:46.480 Yeah, was distney. 0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:54.160 Yeah, we did disrecords against each other, definitely did yes, yes, definitely, 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.879 but we squashed it. And when we squashed it, him 0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:00.120 and Poone had their ship but they had it like 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:05.640 it was like between us. So really I understood how 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:07.520 bad it could have been if one of them would 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.760 have republic. You understand I'm trying to say, like, because 0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:14.279 because public makes it worse. Public makes it worse. 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.080 It makes it worse because now we're planning it out 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:17.719 in front of the world to see, you know, and 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.680 everybody and it and it. 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:22.839 I feel like it's pressure when you're you're here. 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.680 If we beefing with each other in public, now I 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:28.799 gotta especially now I got it because now we get 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:30.680 to hear what people thinking and see what they they're 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:33.800 talking about. Now I got to deal with the pressure 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:38.840 of somebody saying, yo, yourn said, man, yo, you you 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.160 wanna say something back? You out here looking soft, nigga. 0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:45.000 And I feel like a lot of people be succumbing 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:45.239 to that. 0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:45.840 Absolutely. 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.920 They might not admit it, but they do comments. 0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:50.839 Get getting on your. 0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.760 Ass, Stay up the mother fucking comments. 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:55.080 Is that a pause? 0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:58.640 And I don't do balls, man. 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.759 I can't an't work from me. So what was what 0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:05.200 was it was in pickle juice? It was when when 0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:06.319 you opened up the. 0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.759 Relish, that's the jaw of relish. I love relish man 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.800 that's weird. Look I put relish, you put Relish in 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:14.200 the tunes fish but no. 0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:17.000 Yeah, but this is why I was like, I think, man, 0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:21.839 it's crazy because in the marathon they give you pickle juice. 0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.160 It's Relish and pickles. Yes, their cousins. Right. 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.920 Basically it's shopped up that stuff. 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.000 Really small pieces of pickle. 0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:32.600 Okay, well that's the that's the cheek colde to run more. 0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:36.439 I was like this, you know, I have no idea. 0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:37.520 I didn't. 0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:40.839 Says the cheat code. 0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.319 The juice is the cheat code, like in the twenty 0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:46.360 first mile my marathon. Yeah, I guess, I don't know. 0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:48.279 I just didn't make a guy. The guy gave me 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:48.640 a pickle. 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:53.080 I was trolling because I had called academics that jar Relish. 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:54.560 Oh, I didn't know that. 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:56.400 I said, he built like a he built like a 0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:57.080 jar Relish. 0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:04.040 Ready, yeah, you built like a joh Relaish, You motherfucking 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:04.800 yoah Relish. 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:05.640 You know. 0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.160 So I was just trolling. So I had a joll 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:12.279 job that caught that they knew what it was. 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.120 They knew what it was always right to the marathon. 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:15.239 Read it my head. 0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.840 I was likening with that secret. 0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:19.520 You know. 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.080 Now, I guess when you see me with the jo 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.920 relis now I'm running, man, Why Like. 0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:30.120 You've been through, you survived the streets. It's about the 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:33.560 toughest part. And when I hear you see something like that, 0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:38.200 like you say, academics, why do you why do you 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:39.040 indulge back? 0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:43.359 Sometimes if I indulge with you, it's because I feel 0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:44.719 like you're worth it. 0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:46.960 You're worth it, Okay, that's that's real. 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:51.600 I'm gonna be honest, right, it's if I don't say 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.160 nothing back to you, it's it's like it's you a 0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:56.719 piece of ship, and it's like it can't be me 0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:58.880 versus a piece of ship because no matter how, you 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:00.919 still a piece of shit. 0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:01.359 Yeah. 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:04.919 Period, Just me versus a piece of shit, right. 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.960 That's not gonna happen. But yeah, with him, it's just 0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:10.839 he just was saying some things and I said something back, 0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:12.200 and you know, it is what it is. 0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:13.719 It's just that our rhythm man. 0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:17.000 Right, Because because I'm the biggest Floyd mather Weather fan. Yeah, 0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:20.400 and sometimes I get mad, like when Floyd take these exhibitions, 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:23.520 because no matter what on that night, no matter who 0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:25.399 you fight, y'all, on that same level, on the same 0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:27.200 level you know what I mean. It doesn't matter if 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:28.320 you're ten times above. 0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.400 So you're right about that. But I feel like a 0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:33.760 lot of times with the Internet, we're seeing a different 0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:37.239 time right now, right with the things that go on 0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:43.040 on YouTube streaming, and we see like these guys building pages. 0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:45.640 And I ain't talking about academic I'm just saying in general, 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:48.200 building pages. 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:49.960 And their whole theme is. 0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:52.320 To just go at artists and go at rappers and 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.960 go at notable people and tear them down right. And 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:57.279 it doesn't matter if what they're saying is fact you 0:56:57.400 --> 0:56:59.720 or anything. It's clickbait. We want to build our pages, 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.960 we want on the minor size. It's content. You see 0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:06.200 what I'm saying. So sometimes you're like, man, I gotta, 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.120 I gotta say something back, I gotta. 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:10.719 That's part of the strategy that you're falling into their clickbait. 0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:13.640 No, because now when you have your own when you 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:17.880 got your own program and platform, now it's mine, that's real. 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:19.480 Now you gotta reverse that. 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:24.760 Fucking fucking because now what what I'm gonna do, Because 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:28.320 I can't beat you at truth, because the lives more entertaining, 0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:32.480 I can't do with your hand. I can't know how 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:36.760 like fighting against ghosts nigga like who like who? And 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:40.240 then we can't beat them with integrity because integrity doesn't 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.720 matter on the internet. Truth and integrity does not matter, 0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.200 you know what I mean. It's all about what's entertaining 0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:50.560 and and and you know what what like what makes 0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:53.800 people laugh? And what if I could be saying a 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.680 relationship to you? But if if your jokes is funny 0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:00.200 about me, you got it right? 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:03.320 Oh yeah, you know? And you resually went back to 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:05.560 Rightcas Island to talk to the kids. What was that like? 0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:08.520 I tried to do shit on on Recas Islands as 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:10.720 much as possible. They actually give me my own program. 0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:13.680 I got a six week program. I haven't implemented it 0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:15.400 yet because I'm trying to figure out exactly what I 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:20.560 want to do. But my heart will always be for 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:23.560 them young boys, because I was that right, I was 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:27.680 the young nigga. It's a young thirty four seventy four boy, Okay, 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:28.600 she's seventy four. 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:29.520 That's the youngest. 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:32.080 Yes, let me tell you, Let me tell one hundred percent. 0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:32.920 Let me tell you I was. 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.480 I went back to CE seventy four to your same 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:40.040 cell right. Why I turned eighteen at it's crazy. 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:43.480 Wow, and it being that's crazy. I was so emotional 0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:44.400 almost let one go. 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:49.760 I was like, damn, like it was because when I certainteen, 0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:51.320 I was in solitary confinement. 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:54.840 And for those of you know, he's not he's not glorifying, 0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:58.640 he's goorifying where he's at right now in life. That's 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.280 why I came. I want to be clear. 0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:05.760 I turned eighteen years old on on Ryka Island in 0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:08.560 a in a bing in a cell and twenty three 0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:11.080 hour locked in summertime always thirty year. 0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:15.880 I'm like, man, I want it's just yo. The universe. 0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:19.040 Yeah, the universe as well, because that cell happened to 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:20.040 be unoccupied. 0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:21.360 Wow. 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:24.000 And I walked in there and I just was like 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:27.800 trying to just feel what I felt, right like just 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:29.800 trying to remember what it felt like to be here, 0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:32.760 to live here and can't get out and not know 0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:34.480 what to do with my rage and not nothing to 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.120 do with all this energy, and I don't know what 0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:39.160 to do with it, right you see? But yeah, it's 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:40.960 so I try to get him. I try to talk 0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:42.440 to him as much as possible. I try to do 0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:45.200 as much as as I can when it comes to 0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:48.280 you know, what they call at risk youth right and 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.160 ship like that because we was young niggas going to 0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:51.120 spot shit like that. 0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:56.240 Yeah, yeah, Is there any difference in the mentality that 0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.240 you see now with the youth than when you was 0:59:58.280 --> 0:59:58.520 in there. 0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:04.280 Yes, I'm trying to say this in the right way, 1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.040 like when I looked at when I look at a 1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:07.760 lot of the young niggas, because I feel like they 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:11.600 influenced by so many other things that we wasn't. Our 1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:14.320 influence was the need to get money by any means. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:16.120 If we got to shoot the shit out of somebody too, 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:18.480 we get it. We're gonna do it with respect. We're 1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:20.760 gonna die for it. A lot of what they doing 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.920 is based around drug use and shit like that, getting 1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:26.520 high and pilled up and k tuned up and you know, 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:29.920 in jail smolling K two is just it's more of 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:34.840 a like a not conscious of what your full activities 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.680 really is. It's like I didn't really commit to these streets. 1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:40.920 I just was influenced by them. I did shit not 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:42.880 because I felt like doing it or I meant to 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.120 do it. Everything I said I did everything I did 1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.840 in my life, I meant to do it. I wasn't 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:51.240 influenced by drugs. I wasn't influenced by alcohol. I did 1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:53.320 what I had, what I felt like I had to do. 1:00:54.160 --> 1:00:56.600 What I see from them is I feel like the 1:00:56.760 --> 1:01:01.440 influence is like drugs, alcohol, you know, pay pressure, you know, 1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:03.920 being in gangs and like that. I don't feel like 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:06.640 that's a real commitment. I don't feel like this a 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:10.480 real commitment to streets. Because you if I say, if 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:12.600 I put this ship on my back and say I'm 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:14.840 gonna beat this nigga, I'm gonna be it, that's and 1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.680 I'm gonna take everything that they come with. So when 1:01:17.680 --> 1:01:21.160 I see them, it's just like it's like a look 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:25.800 in their eyes that I don't remember seeing when I 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:28.360 was a young nigga in the same thing yourself and 1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:30.960 these kids or I see myself as far as like 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:37.280 going through the experience, I feel like when when when 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:41.439 when we was there, we were more determined on trying 1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:44.280 to get something. And then I was in Rata Island 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:48.080 when the phones was free. Oh yeah, you know you 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:50.640 could wear it clothes, you had jews and you had 1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:53.360 to fan for yourself. You couldn't hide behind no gang. 1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:57.280 You had to be who you said you was, right 1:01:57.680 --> 1:01:59.920 you had to actually perform. You couldn't have been Just 1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:01.600 so you know what I'm saying. If you was a 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.120 prisident in jail, reveal who you really are, you could 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:09.400 have been to shoot him up. Gang bang nigga jail. 1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:10.520 You just you saw. 1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:13.200 Now we're gonna see who you're taking your hot rocks. 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:17.120 Taking your hot rocks, Yeah, taking yours. 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:18.840 Look at that, look at jail niggas. Understand what I 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:31.960 was saying. That exactly what's the next for men? Everything? Man? 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:36.560 Because I know you was acting. Acting is cool. You know. 1:02:36.640 --> 1:02:39.080 I like to act, but I like to I like 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:42.760 to act in something that I'm producing even more, you see, 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:51.360 like doing that as a just like being hired just 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:51.800 to act. 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:56.480 I don't. I don't like that hustle. Because I heard 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:58.840 you say one time that he was looking to play 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:01.240 police officer, Like, yeah, I want to. I want to 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:03.800 be you wanted to. Yeah, yeah, I want to. I 1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:04.400 want to. I want to. 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:06.360 I want to play a priest in the horror movie. 1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:09.160 Yeah wait a minute, I wasn't. 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:11.720 Really I want to. I want to be a. 1:03:11.760 --> 1:03:15.600 Fucking priest in horror movie, like like like like coming here, 1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:19.400 but they call me when I give it. 1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:23.600 Yeah, she's possessed and I got to come in there 1:03:24.560 --> 1:03:25.200 with my ship on. 1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:35.040 Hats the only niggas I got to beat? 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:37.360 What do we do? Father? 1:03:39.200 --> 1:03:39.920 Hold on, I got you. 1:03:41.080 --> 1:03:45.640 Hold on. Let me just tell you how everything is 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:49.680 meant to be so Iced Tea texted me this morning today. Yeah, 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.480 and he texted me a song. And he made a 1:03:52.560 --> 1:03:55.720 new song. Guess what the name of his song? Hustle hard? 1:03:56.280 --> 1:03:58.760 Really wow? Shut out the. 1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:03.960 Super super Dudley. 1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:08.480 How was the hustle Hard movie? We still hard? 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.520 Of course, hustle hard is more. It's not to me 1:04:11.640 --> 1:04:13.240 and there it's just really life. 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:13.960 M hmm. 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:15.959 What we do when we get up in the morning, 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:21.400 hustle off and and and don't stop and don't stop. 1:04:21.680 --> 1:04:23.440 You haven't lost a step yet. 1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:26.200 I lost a couple of steps, but it's okay. Come outside. 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:28.440 I'm outside though a bunch of more. 1:04:32.960 --> 1:04:36.280 You know, just missed a couple of amazing come with 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:38.840 the journey, coming to journey, you know what I mean? 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:40.600 What's what's the game if you don't miss a couple 1:04:40.640 --> 1:04:40.960 of shots. 1:04:41.760 --> 1:04:43.040 But the thing is you got to stay in the 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:44.760 game again, That's that's the thing. 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:47.640 And keep that smile, that smile you got to keep smiling. 1:04:47.440 --> 1:04:48.440 A million dollars. 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:51.040 Now. 1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:54.640 Also one where this was this, this would make me 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:57.080 nervous one time. Yeah, where you was like, man, every 1:04:57.120 --> 1:04:59.280 time I get something new, I'll go. 1:04:59.360 --> 1:04:59.800 To the hood. 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:00.360 Yeah. 1:05:00.760 --> 1:05:02.840 I was like, damn, that was because that was me. 1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:07.280 I understood where that was leading. Yeah, but I didn't 1:05:07.320 --> 1:05:08.480 know if you would have respected my. 1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:10.000 Words, tell me your word. 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:11.520 No, I would have been like, no, that's not the 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:12.120 right thing to do. 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:14.240 Understood, understood. 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:15.640 Did you learn it's not the right thing to do 1:05:15.800 --> 1:05:17.080 or or you still do that? 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:20.720 I know I don't do that, okay, because it's no, 1:05:20.880 --> 1:05:25.960 it's no. You can't please niggas like you're too accessible. 1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:27.080 They say, oh, he ain't nobody. 1:05:27.080 --> 1:05:29.280 That's just man. We always on Gates Avenue is nothing, 1:05:29.840 --> 1:05:30.040 you know. 1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:34.720 But when I got things new, the first my first Bentley, 1:05:35.360 --> 1:05:41.600 the first, the first Bentley I ever had was a 1:05:41.720 --> 1:05:42.360 black coupe. 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:43.520 Oh. 1:05:44.880 --> 1:05:45.560 The first thing I. 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:49.840 Did driving from from from you know, Long Island, was 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:52.640 go straight to the hood. You wanted niggas to see 1:05:52.680 --> 1:05:54.000 me in it, not because I wanted to show off, 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:56.400 because I felt I thought that this was like motivation 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:01.360 that yeah, that happens, and I thought that I was, like, 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:06.080 I don't always looked at myself as like motivation, like 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:07.120 I like from y'all. 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:09.120 Yeah, yeah, I come from the people, so I am 1:06:09.200 --> 1:06:09.560 the people. 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:11.960 I always looked at myself as that, like I'm not 1:06:12.040 --> 1:06:15.560 above y'all, Like y'all watched me out here suffering and 1:06:15.600 --> 1:06:18.040 struggling with y'all. Y'all, y'all know my story. Y'all know 1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:20.360 I was in jail going through it. Y'all know I wasn't, 1:06:20.880 --> 1:06:22.480 you know, been through all this ship. So it was 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:24.680 like the first time I got that, it was just 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:26.800 like a let me go right to the. 1:06:26.840 --> 1:06:28.840 Hood, like you saying, this is what we could do. 1:06:29.480 --> 1:06:30.600 You want to be happy for you. 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:34.479 Yeah, but I don't know if that always translates, Yeah, 1:06:34.520 --> 1:06:34.920 it doesn't. 1:06:35.080 --> 1:06:36.160 I had to. I had to. 1:06:36.240 --> 1:06:38.560 I had to had to learn that because I didn't. 1:06:38.600 --> 1:06:42.320 I didn't actually have people that that I that I 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:46.360 might have respected, really giving me no real game in 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:47.000 the game. 1:06:46.920 --> 1:06:49.120 Or people with experience. People with experience. 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.560 You need experience because a nigga in the street that 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:54.880 never didn't amount to anything can't really tell you right 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:57.440 because you know you, like, I ain't respecting shit from you, 1:06:58.000 --> 1:07:00.120 So nobody really kind of gave me no real a 1:07:00.240 --> 1:07:02.800 real game, and now I understood. I had to learn 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:04.080 the hallway about a lot of ship. 1:07:04.280 --> 1:07:07.040 It's funny because even the crackhead and the hood has 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:09.920 great advice. It's just crackhead. You just don't want to. 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:14.000 Just look, you know, I look at him. That's something 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:14.600 that we don't want. 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:15.240 You don't want to be. 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:17.720 But he'll still say you some wisdom though, he'll tell 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:18.040 you something. 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:21.880 Experience for the streets to be on them corners. 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:26.680 All that's a fact. 1:07:29.640 --> 1:07:36.120 Okay, you've been in this game when it's the first 1:07:36.160 --> 1:07:40.680 time you've been disappointed. And the people of this industry, 1:07:40.720 --> 1:07:44.360 and I don't mean business, I mean like, because we 1:07:44.480 --> 1:07:46.880 all come into this with a facade that this guy 1:07:47.000 --> 1:07:51.440 is this person, this guy this person, and when wet 1:07:51.480 --> 1:07:52.920 it to meet like I don't want to meet my 1:07:53.000 --> 1:07:55.880 heroes no more. I heard that I don't want to 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:58.920 meet my heroes no more. Bro Like, like, I'm so 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:02.040 scared to meet Larry because if he disappoints me. This 1:08:02.880 --> 1:08:06.720 is one of my God, was there ever a time 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:07.920 you wanted to meet somebody and. 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:11.720 Just was like, Oh, I think that happens often. Yeah, 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:16.400 I think we see people from a far and then 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:20.519 we have this kind of illusion of who we think 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:23.519 they are, the idea of who, and then we see 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:26.760 him it's just like, man, he not who I think 1:08:26.840 --> 1:08:27.160 he was. 1:08:27.600 --> 1:08:30.400 But the real ship is that, the real shit is that. 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:36.439 In the reverse, that's you too. Yep. People meet you and. 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:38.280 Be like, Yo, I thought you was just like this 1:08:38.479 --> 1:08:42.600 angry guy like this fucking just wow, gud, It's like 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:45.760 you're really cool, like you're funny, Like I would have 1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:49.240 never known you, see what I'm saying. So it kind 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:54.720 of works in reverse, you know. But I don't have 1:08:54.880 --> 1:08:58.439 high expectations of people, though I did. 1:08:58.920 --> 1:09:01.920 I did? You know I did? I did? 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:05.040 He started laughing, like, I know you're talking about I know, 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:08.280 justic the fuck he talking about the high. 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:09.160 Expectations for niggas. 1:09:09.320 --> 1:09:12.040 Yeah, this nigga's a fucking. 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:15.880 I'm talking But I got years of experience though, Yeah, 1:09:16.120 --> 1:09:18.800 my shit is not just like ten years. I got 1:09:18.880 --> 1:09:21.440 like twenty five years of like yo, me being skeptical 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:24.760 to meet people right, and not only meet them what 1:09:24.920 --> 1:09:27.360 the fuck? Because you can keep up with an act 1:09:27.439 --> 1:09:29.360 for a certain time, but that act is going to 1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:32.840 run out, Like for instance, uh, doctor Dre is exactly 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:35.160 who I thought he was, Like he's exactly, Like I 1:09:35.200 --> 1:09:36.760 got to spend a whole day with. 1:09:36.840 --> 1:09:44.280 Him, go to his his his his house, a milestone man, his. 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:47.120 Neighborhood, and like he was exact, and that's this is 1:09:47.240 --> 1:09:49.720 and this is, this is a guy that's a god. 1:09:50.040 --> 1:09:52.400 So like as a guard, you you like you don't 1:09:52.439 --> 1:09:54.040 want you don't want to be let down on the round. 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:57.679 I came laid a little bit on purpose, just just yeah, 1:09:57.800 --> 1:10:00.200 just just just for me to be like, you know 1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:05.960 you you that nigga to he would have told you, 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:09.400 I judge people my house, like my like my. 1:10:09.520 --> 1:10:12.519 Dad, anybody, yeah, any any any did not we ever 1:10:12.640 --> 1:10:14.479 tell you how I stuck the gun in. 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:16.840 The gun in the house in the club for me, 1:10:17.080 --> 1:10:22.000 so I was I was the one doing the it's 1:10:22.040 --> 1:10:22.680 not the gun in the. 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:33.559 Let me take you tell me. Mano was still fresh 1:10:33.680 --> 1:10:35.439 up the streets and I'm like, nah, were deep in 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:37.760 there and we're good. He's like, yo, norie, I don't 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:43.400 go nowhere without the hand and security. I was like, 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:44.920 I'll hold it for it. 1:10:46.080 --> 1:10:47.559 And we're sitting there, I'm sitting in the truck. 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:49.200 I'm like, nah my, nigga, I ain't going. 1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:52.000 To remember that day like yesterday. That's a bad Give 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:54.800 it to me. I got to hold it, yes, And 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:56.639 I took the grip in there for me, man. 1:10:56.800 --> 1:11:00.479 And and then you feel safe like yeah, And I 1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:04.200 was like mad, really, but I understand. I understand that 1:11:04.280 --> 1:11:11.120 New York mentality, bro club, It was definitely you know 1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:14.160 you understand that the mentality. 1:11:14.240 --> 1:11:14.360 Right. 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:16.559 So I asked this question the other day. 1:11:16.640 --> 1:11:18.000 I was just like, it's the streets. 1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:22.400 Is it a physical place or is it in? Is 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:23.160 it a mentality? 1:11:23.600 --> 1:11:25.400 What are they calling it? Now? They said the streets 1:11:25.560 --> 1:11:25.680 is what? 1:11:26.120 --> 1:11:28.519 So I'm asking is it is it? Is the streets 1:11:28.560 --> 1:11:31.360 a physical place or is it a mentality? Oh? 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:33.880 I think it's both, man, Yeah, I think we got 1:11:33.920 --> 1:11:37.040 to get shot to that. Yeah, I think it's both 1:11:38.000 --> 1:11:39.000 to I think it's both. 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:39.559 It's both. 1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:42.880 Okay, But if they gentrifyed that same neighborhood, then. 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:45.240 What then then you win because of mentality? 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:46.080 Because of me? 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:49.439 Yes, and that's the thing. Yes, that's real, that's deep. 1:11:50.200 --> 1:11:54.760 I'm from bed Star right, and that's like the like 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:57.759 a heavily gentrified neighborhood. 1:11:57.840 --> 1:11:58.639 They got Starbucks. 1:11:58.680 --> 1:12:01.800 Now, yeah, they got even more than that. 1:12:02.080 --> 1:12:04.479 You got a couple of cappuccinos and all happuccinos, white 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:07.680 ladies walking with dogs, and humble house and yeah that's 1:12:07.720 --> 1:12:08.599 down in Whims. 1:12:08.920 --> 1:12:11.960 Yeah yeah his next neighbor. Yeah yeah, but yeah it's 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:12.639 it's real. 1:12:13.000 --> 1:12:14.280 We got we got you can still go to for 1:12:14.400 --> 1:12:14.920 Green and get. 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:20.040 Roll absolutely even in Besting the same block. But you 1:12:20.080 --> 1:12:22.120 got the ladies walking around their poodles and and and 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:26.479 and fucking shipsuit dogs and they they did what those 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:27.560 the little sandum. 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:28.400 Burk and the Burke starts. 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:30.559 We still don't know if it's good or bad though, 1:12:30.640 --> 1:12:33.760 right because the crime, yeah, economically is bad. 1:12:33.760 --> 1:12:37.439 If the ownership doesn't right in anamo is there don't better, 1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:39.920 But it's good for the I guess the crime maybe right. 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:42.519 But then we trying to understand what's happening here because it's. 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:44.280 Like we used to we used to hang out there. 1:12:45.080 --> 1:12:47.400 So they took the same corners that have a. 1:12:47.439 --> 1:12:49.879 Little aquarium at one point it was a little aquarium, 1:12:49.920 --> 1:12:53.960 fisher quarium. Yeah, best didn't know the run it over. 1:12:54.080 --> 1:13:01.000 Yeah yeah, they could be ran over. It was it 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:02.479 was like made. It was like made. 1:13:03.200 --> 1:13:06.960 Yeah, the personal Maide, that is like family to me. 1:13:07.600 --> 1:13:08.400 I'm trying to say. 1:13:10.800 --> 1:13:13.560 It was on Jefferson Jefferson Hompkins. It was a you 1:13:13.640 --> 1:13:15.960 know the Johnny pump is well the hydrant. 1:13:16.600 --> 1:13:21.240 The hydrant he made like a little that attached to it. 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:25.120 Yet no in the water. He made like this, this 1:13:25.439 --> 1:13:27.760 contraption where it was like real fish in it was. 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:30.720 The most creative, the most creative ship ever. 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:33.920 Like and this guy's like family with me, like he 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:36.519 made this and it was really nice. 1:13:37.160 --> 1:13:39.200 It was they said, Jadakiss came down and have to 1:13:39.280 --> 1:13:41.320 fly over the over the world. 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:43.400 It was real small, but it was. 1:13:43.720 --> 1:13:48.280 It was dope, like gold fishing there, you understand, gold 1:13:48.360 --> 1:13:49.320 fishing on the sidewalk. 1:13:50.439 --> 1:13:53.920 I was mad as a motherfucker they wrecked. I was like, 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:55.200 damn niggas, we can't. 1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:56.320 Have nothing shout out the hall. 1:13:56.880 --> 1:13:59.280 Even know you knew him, I don't even know you 1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:00.439 said it. 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:06.360 Look at that like real goldfish, like the little Nemo fishes. 1:14:07.479 --> 1:14:13.920 Do you think you're Brooklyn, your old school Brooklyn? Did 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:17.160 you ever think that there's a Brooklyn whatever exists. 1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:20.200 I didn't even think I would make it to this Brooklyn. Wow, 1:14:20.760 --> 1:14:23.320 i'ma be honest with you. I never looked. I never 1:14:23.479 --> 1:14:27.280 thought like I'm gonna live to be. I never thought 1:14:27.320 --> 1:14:30.240 in terms of that, right, but just being hunted with you, 1:14:30.840 --> 1:14:32.000 that's right. 1:14:32.520 --> 1:14:36.639 Yeah, yeah, and you even got a main oda yeah 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:43.599 noa like in my neighborhood that I brought that that's 1:14:43.640 --> 1:14:46.840 sucking something like that. It's a major Okay, how did 1:14:46.880 --> 1:14:47.400 that come about? 1:14:48.160 --> 1:14:50.280 So I was I was doing things for my neighborhood 1:14:50.320 --> 1:14:53.840 without so called broadcasting, and I was like always doing 1:14:53.920 --> 1:14:56.560 like coat drives and coming to the neighborhood. 1:14:56.120 --> 1:14:57.120 With Macy's and something like that. 1:14:57.240 --> 1:14:59.679 Right, So Macy's used to give me like sixty thousand 1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:02.400 dollars for coats. They'd be like forty between forty and 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:04.680 sixty thousand dollars worth of coasts every year, and I 1:15:04.720 --> 1:15:06.680 would take those coats. There was brand new coats, but 1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:10.040 it was like the inventary and I shout out to 1:15:10.080 --> 1:15:12.360 Bless because he didn't want to patch me in with that. 1:15:13.160 --> 1:15:16.960 And what happened was I would take those coats and 1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:19.920 bring them to my neighborhoods. There was there was like females, 1:15:20.520 --> 1:15:23.680 young kids and women's coats, and I would give them 1:15:23.720 --> 1:15:26.000 out mostly like every year, and I would like try 1:15:26.080 --> 1:15:27.760 to do as much as I could for my for 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:28.520 my neighborhood. 1:15:28.920 --> 1:15:32.200 And then I got approached about having a day in 1:15:32.320 --> 1:15:32.720 my name. 1:15:32.960 --> 1:15:36.000 It's like that was that was That was different because 1:15:36.000 --> 1:15:37.680 I only thought niggas you had to die to get 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:39.839 a day or your name on the streets. 1:15:39.960 --> 1:15:41.960 Yeah, you gotta be gone to get that. 1:15:42.680 --> 1:15:45.600 Yeah. So what what does main old day consist of? 1:15:45.840 --> 1:15:46.559 So mayn o days? 1:15:46.560 --> 1:15:48.400 So when I asked him, I said, listen, you're gonna 1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:49.840 give me this day. It's going to be like, what 1:15:50.040 --> 1:15:51.960 is it? I'm trying to understand. It was like the 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:57.240 the Brooklyn Borough president, We're gonna give this day to 1:15:57.360 --> 1:16:00.519 Maino and it's going to be this day of service. 1:16:00.920 --> 1:16:02.640 And I'm listening to him talk and I'm just like, 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:05.880 all right, I know what to do. First thing. First, 1:16:05.920 --> 1:16:08.080 I want to I want to make the day my 1:16:08.160 --> 1:16:11.599 mother's birthday. Oh okay, she rest in peace. 1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:13.320 I want to. I want to. I want to have it. 1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:15.719 I want to celebrate her birthday at the same time, 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:18.880 but I want to do something for the that wasn't 1:16:18.920 --> 1:16:19.439 done for us. 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:25.479 Let me block off two city blocks. Can I do that? 1:16:26.720 --> 1:16:27.439 I had this vision. 1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:28.920 I was like, I want to block off two city 1:16:28.960 --> 1:16:32.080 blocks and I want to on one end, I want 1:16:32.120 --> 1:16:34.799 to have a stage for the local artists. 1:16:36.000 --> 1:16:38.000 On the other end, I want to have all these 1:16:38.080 --> 1:16:38.680 functions for. 1:16:38.760 --> 1:16:43.800 Kids, rides, bouncy houses, trucks, ice cream, food trusts, all that. 1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:45.320 And in the middle, I. 1:16:45.400 --> 1:16:48.599 Wanted to be festival style, like with like vendors giving 1:16:48.640 --> 1:16:50.400 away things. I want to sell nothing to the hook, 1:16:51.320 --> 1:16:56.040 right and my vision. We did that two years, two 1:16:56.120 --> 1:16:56.640 years in a row. 1:16:56.680 --> 1:16:56.960 We did that. 1:16:59.680 --> 1:17:05.920 It's it's no violence, it's lit. I'm talking about it's huge. 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:08.439 Like I was watching, I was like going around looking 1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:10.280 at what Spike Lee been doing, because Spike Lee does 1:17:10.320 --> 1:17:12.960 something in bed Start too every year, big block party 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:15.240 for do the right thing good. 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:16.880 So I was like looking at what he was doing. 1:17:17.000 --> 1:17:18.800 I was like, I see it. So I got two 1:17:18.880 --> 1:17:19.519 city blocks. 1:17:20.120 --> 1:17:24.479 I'm going for three this year, right, my permit, and 1:17:24.680 --> 1:17:27.599 really make this it's a festival style. I had mothers 1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:31.679 come to me and say thank you because I couldn't 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:36.680 afford to take my kid to an amusement park. All right, 1:17:37.000 --> 1:17:40.360 great adventions and ship like that, and you out here 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:45.320 bringing rides, you out here doing that, so thank you, 1:17:46.120 --> 1:17:50.679 you know, and we're giving away book bags, sneakers, shirts, 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:52.840 giving I got healthcare out there shout out the Metro 1:17:53.000 --> 1:17:56.960 Plus coming out there signing people up for healthcare. You know, 1:17:57.040 --> 1:17:59.240 I just trying to like give back at the same time. 1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:00.320 You know what I mean, right. 1:18:03.080 --> 1:18:04.560 You you ever thought you would have? 1:18:05.160 --> 1:18:05.200 No? 1:18:10.520 --> 1:18:11.960 Definitely, definitely not a lie. 1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:16.200 Real Okay, So we've got things for the kids, we 1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:17.080 got things for the. 1:18:17.680 --> 1:18:19.639 Local artists, things artists families. 1:18:19.680 --> 1:18:21.679 And then where's the after party at scarlets? 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:25.680 Possibly possibly starlist possibly. 1:18:27.880 --> 1:18:28.919 I'm sorry. 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:33.600 In a minute, it's always. I mean, I like that, 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:34.160 have a good time. 1:18:34.360 --> 1:18:35.240 You like strip clubs? 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:40.599 A lie? I told you I lost the rolling right 1:18:40.680 --> 1:18:44.640 I was. It was home to Milly's to. 1:18:44.880 --> 1:18:51.000 You said you ain't you do the extra one? It 1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:52.599 was a mission in that night. 1:18:52.960 --> 1:18:55.840 Oh I know about the about the I wanted that 1:18:55.960 --> 1:18:56.599 mission that night. 1:18:57.320 --> 1:18:59.439 You have me different. 1:19:00.320 --> 1:19:02.400 I was like, yo, no, but I lost it. I 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:03.400 lost it on the comeback. 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:04.160 Like I woke up. 1:19:04.240 --> 1:19:04.800 It was gone. 1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:09.000 Like the girl that was the room with me, she 1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:11.160 was gone, Yeah, she was going. The watch was gone. 1:19:11.320 --> 1:19:13.479 You know, I learned my lesson. Yeah, you got this. 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:13.880 Listen. 1:19:14.000 --> 1:19:16.000 Sometimes you take bumps and bruises on the journey. 1:19:16.160 --> 1:19:18.760 For sure. You know we're still here. Say what? 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:21.519 Yeah? 1:19:22.160 --> 1:19:25.800 No, she was gone, nigga. I woke up. 1:19:26.680 --> 1:19:28.479 Yeah, gone one thirty two in the morning. 1:19:28.720 --> 1:19:31.080 I'm going out of here, only gone. 1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:34.479 We've seen you on Love of Hip Hop? Are you 1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:38.320 actually because did we heard you say you're getting married 1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:42.759 on the radio? Is this actually? I want to get married? 1:19:42.840 --> 1:19:43.000 Man? 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:43.840 I believe you. 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:44.960 It's gonna happen. 1:19:45.080 --> 1:19:45.720 I believe you. 1:19:45.840 --> 1:19:47.880 It's gonna happen. I'm gonna set the date first, though. 1:19:47.800 --> 1:19:50.800 Oh, you ain't even set the date. My information is wrong. 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:54.120 So last year, last year, you gotta understand what's happening. 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:56.320 Understand me. Okay, I'm here. 1:19:57.120 --> 1:19:59.160 Last year I set a date or you did set 1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:00.720 a date for you twenty six? 1:20:01.960 --> 1:20:03.719 Okay. I went. 1:20:05.720 --> 1:20:09.960 To Robbie Suits and picked out a TUXI though. Okay, 1:20:10.880 --> 1:20:13.800 I went and sat with a wedding planner. Okay, I 1:20:13.960 --> 1:20:17.880 went to Masa and picked out a ring. I did 1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:19.800 all this before I even had a wedding or like 1:20:19.880 --> 1:20:21.000 a like a like a like a. 1:20:21.040 --> 1:20:21.560 Bride to be. 1:20:22.400 --> 1:20:25.960 Damn, I did that first, and that's how I want 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:26.160 to do it. 1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:28.880 I'm a I'm a You're gonna set up the party 1:20:28.920 --> 1:20:31.320 and then bring I'm gonna set it up and then 1:20:31.400 --> 1:20:36.560 all she got to do is show up. Yeah, i'na ma, 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:41.719 I'm gonna make my life, not just anybody. I'm gonna 1:20:41.720 --> 1:20:45.680 make my life easier. And if need be, I'll have 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:50.120 what what what the bridesmaids already there for you. 1:20:51.760 --> 1:20:53.040 You got pre picked base. 1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:55.599 Yeah, I've never heard all my own girls. 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:57.599 This might be. This might be the most genius ship 1:20:57.600 --> 1:20:58.040 I've ever heard. 1:20:58.720 --> 1:21:02.120 Keep yeah, yeah, this is this is a reality show myself. 1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:06.720 He sounds nothing is impossible. My brother believe that, trust me. 1:21:07.360 --> 1:21:11.200 So he could be the person that marries you guys. Yeah, 1:21:11.360 --> 1:21:13.320 you appreciate We're. 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:16.400 Gonna get preaching in his mind? Who else is the preacher? 1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:17.439 You get to do it? 1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:17.920 Who else? 1:21:18.800 --> 1:21:21.679 I feel like ray j is a preacher too. Mace 1:21:22.280 --> 1:21:28.880 may definitely can do it. And we got one more 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:32.479 daddy Yankee. I think, oh yeah, she's a preacher. I 1:21:32.600 --> 1:21:37.000 just think Christian. Just roll with it, man, if you're 1:21:37.000 --> 1:21:38.960 a Christian, you appreciate it. Just roll with it. 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:40.839 Christian appreachier. 1:21:41.160 --> 1:21:43.040 You can do it. You've got the good book. You 1:21:43.120 --> 1:21:45.479 can do it straight up, if you believe you can 1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:49.360 do it. So, oh man, that's who I was looking 1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:53.120 for now. He's yes, if you. 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:55.600 If you believe in the law. You can preach he 1:21:55.680 --> 1:21:56.400 married a preacher. 1:21:56.880 --> 1:21:59.840 No, he married pusher married he. 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:01.839 He got he married. 1:22:02.320 --> 1:22:09.000 Got just sounded crazy at my at my wedding, I'm 1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:11.519 appreciately gonna fly fly down. Oh like. 1:22:13.280 --> 1:22:13.559 So like. 1:22:15.200 --> 1:22:15.639 That man. 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:21.120 Character, you're gonna fly down with Louis Vuitton on and 1:22:21.200 --> 1:22:21.439 all that. 1:22:21.880 --> 1:22:23.479 Okay, I need one of them niggas. 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:25.000 So you really got a wedding plan. 1:22:25.320 --> 1:22:28.120 I'm gonna replant it because I didn't make it this 1:22:28.240 --> 1:22:31.400 July twenty six, that was last year. So I'm announce 1:22:31.400 --> 1:22:32.519 a new date for this year. 1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:34.479 But you have a woman? Correct? 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:41.679 No, no, no, he's announcing the show without there's no woman. Okay. 1:22:42.320 --> 1:22:44.439 So because I heard they say, like, that's what they say, 1:22:45.160 --> 1:22:47.600 and that's why they say at the weddings, and this 1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:51.000 this woman because it could be anybody, like or they 1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:53.840 say this loyal methic man because they have to tuxtedos 1:22:54.280 --> 1:22:56.360 for anybody to go in there. Like I never heard 1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:57.280 of this, Like how you. 1:22:57.560 --> 1:22:58.040 This is different. 1:22:58.160 --> 1:23:00.560 It's different. It's different. This is different. Who will be 1:23:00.600 --> 1:23:01.920 your best man at your wedding? 1:23:02.320 --> 1:23:05.519 I'll have a couple, a couple, a few best men. 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:08.599 We have some rappers and regulars. Let's name. 1:23:08.720 --> 1:23:10.479 We gotta do ship out of the box. 1:23:10.560 --> 1:23:10.680 Bro. 1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:12.880 We can't do the same thing over and over. 1:23:12.960 --> 1:23:14.719 Man. So I have a two A couple of homies. 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:17.639 Lobby boys. Yeah, lobby boys. 1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:18.680 I like that. 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:19.200 Like that. 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:23.040 Let's drink to that drink that Okay, definitely it would 1:23:23.080 --> 1:23:31.120 be fab Okay, Jim, okay, okay, yep? 1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:33.360 Why not? Guy? What what? 1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:33.640 What? 1:23:33.840 --> 1:23:36.479 What Uncle Murder make your wedding party? Uncle Murder? 1:23:38.040 --> 1:23:39.040 I love Uncle Murder. 1:23:39.240 --> 1:23:40.400 No no no no no no no no no no 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:40.840 no no no. 1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:42.639 I love Uncle Murder. 1:23:42.760 --> 1:23:44.880 Many. 1:23:45.840 --> 1:23:46.920 I love Uncle Murder. 1:23:46.960 --> 1:23:49.080 That's my brother. I love home mur We started this 1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:52.519 ship together. Restect that we started this ship together. Like 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:55.680 it it's main o Uncle Murder records that go all 1:23:55.680 --> 1:23:56.120 the way back. 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:57.080 To two thousand and five. 1:23:57.280 --> 1:24:02.440 Wow, it was main old Uncle Murder. Oppon and Noriega 1:24:04.080 --> 1:24:07.680 pound like yellow tape is classic, you know what I mean? 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:13.680 But I just think, you know, circumstances and time. I 1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:16.000 don't want I don't want to say redefine our relationship 1:24:16.000 --> 1:24:18.760 because I still feel like because me and that we 1:24:18.840 --> 1:24:19.719 never even had an argument. 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:20.120 Ever. 1:24:21.680 --> 1:24:25.560 I still feel like the respect is there. But you know, 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:30.160 he with fifty and you understand what being with fifty. 1:24:31.200 --> 1:24:34.960 He requires loyalty, he requires a like the sense of 1:24:35.080 --> 1:24:39.160 loyalsy like nigga, you bet not. But you know he 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:42.840 is different. You know at this point right now, we 1:24:43.960 --> 1:24:45.880 I don't think what we got with fifty is serious. 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:52.720 I think that that's just for him. It's definitely. I 1:24:52.800 --> 1:24:55.400 think he's somewhere like laughing at the same time fifty 1:24:57.360 --> 1:25:00.320 when he like throwing little shots at niggas or whatever. Yeah, 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:03.080 but I think for murder. 1:25:04.720 --> 1:25:07.120 His this is what. 1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:12.560 Changed his life and that has to be respected. So 1:25:13.360 --> 1:25:14.080 it is what it is. 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:14.800 You know. 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:17.600 I respect that. I hope I hope y'all get it 1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:21.280 together to like no, no, we don't have no no. 1:25:22.280 --> 1:25:25.120 I love y'all together. Like if there's another album that 1:25:25.160 --> 1:25:28.639 could be made, y'all say, yeah, I would. 1:25:28.720 --> 1:25:30.120 I would like to hear it, bro, But I don't 1:25:30.120 --> 1:25:32.880 know if that I don't know in the climate if 1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:36.559 that could actually happen. You know what I mean. If 1:25:36.600 --> 1:25:40.320 we talked about loyalty, and we talked about picking our sides, 1:25:41.000 --> 1:25:43.600 and it's understandable when size are picked. I don't have 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:45.400 no problem with the nigga that picked his side. I 1:25:45.520 --> 1:25:47.679 understand that I respect it, you see what I'm saying. 1:25:48.120 --> 1:25:51.000 And I had a relationship with fifty. 1:25:52.280 --> 1:25:54.080 We were super cool because he has something to do 1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:55.000 with putting you on as well. 1:25:55.080 --> 1:26:01.800 Right, absolutely, absolutely, I was signed online. I was signing 1:26:01.840 --> 1:26:03.000 a university. We talked about that. 1:26:03.160 --> 1:26:07.080 We talked about that. The universalis dropped me. I was 1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:08.400 back in the hook, back in the hood. 1:26:09.640 --> 1:26:12.800 I was at Ryo House on mon Road between No 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:15.200 Shit and Massy and his basement, recording records. 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:15.800 In the hood. 1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:21.800 I'm trying to figure it out. Fifty at that point 1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:26.400 had a relationship with my brother eighty eighty called me 1:26:26.479 --> 1:26:29.120 and said, look, I'm up here. I'm in I'm in 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:34.320 fifty office with him right now. We're kicking it. Next thing, 1:26:34.400 --> 1:26:37.200 you know, and within an hour, I'm getting phone calls 1:26:37.200 --> 1:26:40.160 from Atlanta. Yo, you got a meeting. Yeah, they called 1:26:40.200 --> 1:26:43.120 me from Atlantic, got a meeting. They want me up 1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:48.720 at Atlantic. What happened was Fifty asked him to say, Yo, 1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:50.680 what y'all doing? Like you know what I mean, He's like, 1:26:51.280 --> 1:26:53.080 you know, we were talking to Atlantic because I had 1:26:53.160 --> 1:26:54.880 at that point, once I got dropped to the Universe 1:26:55.000 --> 1:26:56.680 from University, we was in. 1:26:56.760 --> 1:27:00.720 Talks with Atlantic. Yeah, but you know how them talk. 1:27:00.800 --> 1:27:02.760 So and let me ask you what regime is that 1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:05.519 in the land. Is that Craig Cowman, Is that Julie 1:27:05.560 --> 1:27:10.160 greenwalk like or that's just it's Craig Cawman. But all 1:27:10.200 --> 1:27:14.080 those people together, okay, okay together the old depth jam 1:27:14.160 --> 1:27:14.479 coming over? 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:21.080 Yeah, okay, seven okay. Fifty said to my brother a, Yo, 1:27:22.160 --> 1:27:25.679 you want me to call over there? Yeah, they talking, 1:27:25.760 --> 1:27:27.360 but they act like they won't do something and did 1:27:27.400 --> 1:27:27.720 it yet? 1:27:28.080 --> 1:27:28.479 What's up? 1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:30.559 They called over there. 1:27:31.640 --> 1:27:35.960 And tell them? Yo, let me speak to Craig. Get 1:27:36.000 --> 1:27:36.639 Craig on the phone. 1:27:36.680 --> 1:27:36.800 Yo. 1:27:36.880 --> 1:27:41.160 Look what you're doing with manow Yeah you know we're talking. 1:27:41.400 --> 1:27:44.080 Listen if you if I could do it, I would 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:50.080 do it. He's got their movement. Yeah, that's the niggas. 1:27:51.800 --> 1:27:52.559 Hung their phone up. 1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:56.040 There was on my line. By the time they hung 1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:57.920 their phone up, I was I was getting called into 1:27:57.960 --> 1:28:00.200 a meeting. That's how powerful he was influence you. 1:28:00.320 --> 1:28:02.240 He was so for me. 1:28:02.360 --> 1:28:07.200 I always had a when it came to that. 1:28:08.040 --> 1:28:11.360 That's real, right, I'm a nigga that I ain't. I 1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:14.439 don't never forget that type of shit now, mind you, Right, 1:28:18.040 --> 1:28:23.040 I got people upset about the relationship that me and 1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:28.160 him building at that time. At that time, my son 1:28:30.560 --> 1:28:35.559 his mother, right, his mother is upset about that because 1:28:36.960 --> 1:28:39.800 her brother is the person. 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:43.160 That they blamed for shooting him. Wow. 1:28:43.439 --> 1:28:48.360 Okay, So when you talk about Homo, that's my son's uncle. 1:28:51.520 --> 1:28:57.120 My son's name Zaine Daryl Coleman. Darl was his name. 1:28:59.360 --> 1:29:02.160 I never met him though, so I didn't. I didn't 1:29:02.240 --> 1:29:03.479 feel the. 1:29:05.600 --> 1:29:07.479 Like a like a like a connection to that. Like 1:29:07.640 --> 1:29:11.720 I just felt like that was the circumstances. And you know, 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:14.880 and out of respect, I get it that that's the family, 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:18.760 you know what I mean. But the relationship that me 1:29:18.840 --> 1:29:21.840 and him was building, you know, I was it was 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:24.200 like what, like, nigga, you helped me? So I never 1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:28.040 I never forgot that, you see what I'm saying, Like 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:29.680 that was something that I always kept with me like 1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:31.840 this nigga that and I never and that's all you 1:29:31.880 --> 1:29:33.640 got to do for a nigga like me. I'm not 1:29:33.760 --> 1:29:35.880 I'm not asking for no song, I'm not asking for 1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:38.640 nothing else that you did enough, you know. 1:29:39.360 --> 1:29:41.919 But yeah, so, and even still. 1:29:43.200 --> 1:29:45.720 With the relationship that me and him was building at 1:29:45.760 --> 1:29:50.479 that time, I still was hearing shit like oh how 1:29:50.520 --> 1:29:54.760 could you you know, be it you know, fuck with 1:29:54.920 --> 1:30:01.519 somebody that you know, your your son's family and I 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:02.799 didn't you know, I didn't. 1:30:02.560 --> 1:30:04.479 Get it, but you know what it was, what it was, 1:30:06.880 --> 1:30:08.360 that's a crazy connection, man, right. 1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:11.840 And then what did T I have to do? I 1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:13.519 know we spoke about it earlier. What did T I 1:30:13.600 --> 1:30:15.040 have to do at the beginning of your career? 1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:15.680 Was that? 1:30:15.920 --> 1:30:18.439 What did he come in in Atlantic? Chip? 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:24.720 Yeah, Chip was definitely helpful. Chip wanted to sign me 1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:30.120 the Grand Hustle. That didn't actually work out, So I 1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:33.840 never fully signed the Grand Hustle, but I was that was. 1:30:33.840 --> 1:30:37.599 The time they had the big dude but on country 1:30:37.680 --> 1:30:38.320 can yeah. 1:30:38.160 --> 1:30:42.240 Country shout out the country can Country can Yeah? 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:45.360 Yeah? 1:30:45.400 --> 1:30:48.280 I never I never signed to Groundhustle. We talked about it. 1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:51.400 We were trying to figure out what that was. Because 1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:56.240 what happened was Atlantic was signing me direct, you know, 1:30:57.439 --> 1:30:59.640 And sometimes I think like, maybe, like if you were 1:30:59.720 --> 1:31:02.680 have did it T I didn't had to be through him, 1:31:02.760 --> 1:31:03.719 And you're saying. 1:31:03.600 --> 1:31:05.200 Right, right, they were signing me direct. 1:31:06.360 --> 1:31:09.320 Yes, it was a better bet. I'm trying to say, like, 1:31:09.400 --> 1:31:12.000 it's not it's not it's not. No, it was no, 1:31:12.320 --> 1:31:14.400 it was no cut, it was no cutting. It was us. 1:31:14.600 --> 1:31:16.400 It was hustle hard directly with the line. 1:31:16.760 --> 1:31:20.040 Right now, you you recently had a picture with Jay 1:31:20.200 --> 1:31:23.679 right and it looked like you was relieved for some reason. 1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:28.120 It looked like he was like, yo, man, I follow you. 1:31:28.960 --> 1:31:32.000 I felt like, this is me speculating. I felt like 1:31:32.120 --> 1:31:34.439 you had to tell him something at that very moment. 1:31:34.640 --> 1:31:37.680 And after that moment was the picture. Now I'm speculating. 1:31:38.439 --> 1:31:40.519 But told me he watched the show. This is when 1:31:40.680 --> 1:31:41.840 Kitchen Talk was out. 1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:46.439 Okay. I was surprised about that, right, I was. He 1:31:46.520 --> 1:31:47.200 watches everything. 1:31:48.000 --> 1:31:51.439 I was super surprised. M So that's that what that 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:53.519 moment was like he was telling me, oh, man, I 1:31:53.560 --> 1:31:57.599 watched the show. Like I'm like, what you watched everything? 1:31:57.960 --> 1:31:58.519 You watched me? 1:31:58.680 --> 1:31:58.960 Nigga? 1:31:59.400 --> 1:32:00.720 You know, I mean this is a whole you know, 1:32:00.840 --> 1:32:03.360 we we we look at hold with a certain lens. 1:32:03.439 --> 1:32:03.560 You know. 1:32:03.960 --> 1:32:04.759 But what happened? 1:32:04.800 --> 1:32:04.920 Why? 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:08.080 Why was the even of discrepancy? Did you wasn't It 1:32:08.240 --> 1:32:11.320 wasn't just rumors? What did you say about hole? 1:32:12.800 --> 1:32:15.080 You gotta know that when I came in a game, 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:16.400 I came in a game with a lot. 1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:20.760 Of like yeah, like still the wool lines like you 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:21.960 want somebody to say whoo. 1:32:22.080 --> 1:32:27.000 Yeah, like talking crazy, you know, saying ship that not 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:29.080 having somebody school me to the game. 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:30.120 You see, the thing is. 1:32:32.120 --> 1:32:36.160 My perception the game was at that point was getting 1:32:36.200 --> 1:32:39.240 out of prison. I'm telling my niggas, Yo, we really 1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:43.720 who we say we are, We really involved with the 1:32:43.760 --> 1:32:46.719 ship that were involved with these. 1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:50.439 Niggas is just acting. We can be that we can 1:32:50.520 --> 1:32:51.840 we can we can show the world. 1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:55.240 And I had this perception of like we're gonna show them, 1:32:55.479 --> 1:32:59.200 We're gonna out tough these niggas and out real them, right, 1:32:59.360 --> 1:33:01.920 like show the world like they not who they are 1:33:02.040 --> 1:33:05.160 and we're the genuine article. And that was that was 1:33:05.240 --> 1:33:10.639 the the most primitive thought ever because it's really dumb. 1:33:11.840 --> 1:33:14.360 Do you think if that line would nick came out, 1:33:14.400 --> 1:33:16.760 you guys would embrace each other. Which line like I 1:33:16.840 --> 1:33:19.559 couldn't saying you like taking a shot at jail or whatever. 1:33:19.560 --> 1:33:22.639 Because I said mad Ship, Okay, I said ship about 1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:26.560 Jim Jones the whole song wollams Her j was a 1:33:26.640 --> 1:33:28.880 scary dude and all this ship like we're talking about 1:33:28.920 --> 1:33:31.559 Like I literally went to Massie and ship. They was like, yo, 1:33:31.600 --> 1:33:33.160 he don't come to Massie And I'm listening to this 1:33:33.240 --> 1:33:34.519 dumb ship. He don't come to Massie. 1:33:35.360 --> 1:33:38.599 You know, we said that's equivalent to the fifties rock Yes. 1:33:38.800 --> 1:33:43.280 Yes, which which kind of inspired me, right of course, 1:33:43.600 --> 1:33:45.200 let's keep it real, and. 1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:47.760 Which is inspired by Biggie's sucking the R and B bit. 1:33:47.880 --> 1:33:49.960 Absolutely, But he was just talking about R and B 1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:51.680 and I'm just talking about the. 1:33:55.040 --> 1:33:55.720 So so. 1:34:01.560 --> 1:34:05.599 I'm saying, Ship, I'm shooting videos because what what we're 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:08.000 trying to do. We're trying to get attention, right, right, 1:34:08.120 --> 1:34:10.880 So they would call that trolling now right. 1:34:11.880 --> 1:34:12.080 Yeah. 1:34:12.439 --> 1:34:14.080 I seen a nigga say, yo, man, no, you came 1:34:14.120 --> 1:34:16.000 into game trolling while you mad at. 1:34:15.920 --> 1:34:20.280 Me somebody else. I said, you're right, somebody else trolling you. 1:34:22.280 --> 1:34:25.240 So were you admitted to it? Yeah? 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:29.000 Because you know what, because when you when you feel 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:31.439 like there's no other options, you do what you feel like. 1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:34.000 You got to survival. 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:35.760 Yeah. 1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:39.360 My very first record, l A l A's just arguably 1:34:39.600 --> 1:34:40.720 one of the biggest. 1:34:42.640 --> 1:34:45.479 L one of the true we're just supposed to agree 1:34:45.560 --> 1:34:50.920 like that, but arguably one of the very first troll 1:34:51.040 --> 1:34:54.360 records because we had never even been to l A. 1:34:55.880 --> 1:34:59.160 Like we we ain't leave Jamaica Avenue let alone Jamaica 1:34:59.760 --> 1:35:02.400 like we were. We didn't even know what l A 1:35:02.800 --> 1:35:03.880 smelled like, been on. 1:35:03.960 --> 1:35:08.800 The planet for twenty five years, like, oh my god. 1:35:09.400 --> 1:35:12.639 So we made l A and we never even knew 1:35:12.640 --> 1:35:15.000 a kind of like we were talking about and I 1:35:15.120 --> 1:35:16.679 tell you this, I'll. 1:35:16.479 --> 1:35:17.960 Tell you this, but you didn't go hard. 1:35:18.160 --> 1:35:22.160 We didn't because it's the hook. But I'm agreeing with him. 1:35:22.200 --> 1:35:24.479 I'm saying like that was that, that was that attention, 1:35:24.680 --> 1:35:27.280 like real quick, and we got it real quick, and 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:29.880 the New York big had our back. 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:32.200 When you feel like you ain't got no other options, 1:35:32.360 --> 1:35:32.960 well hold up. 1:35:33.000 --> 1:35:35.439 Sorry to country, but Tim Dogs the first fu content. 1:35:35.560 --> 1:35:36.920 Oh ship, that's the fun. 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:38.840 That's a good one. 1:35:38.920 --> 1:35:39.519 Shout him. 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:46.639 Got Tim dog rest. Yeah he died, Tim Dogg died, 1:35:50.320 --> 1:35:53.599 did Yeah. I gotta stop the ship, y'all going back there. 1:35:54.240 --> 1:35:56.360 You gotta be honest, you just. 1:35:58.000 --> 1:35:58.599 We're gonna. 1:36:01.840 --> 1:36:02.680 John think. 1:36:02.760 --> 1:36:07.719 Yeah, Tim Doll died. Oh see, this is how fucked 1:36:07.800 --> 1:36:08.360 up our world is. 1:36:08.520 --> 1:36:10.320 Someone knows the fact out. I agree with the fact 1:36:10.360 --> 1:36:12.000 that someone said, no, that's not a fact, and we 1:36:12.040 --> 1:36:13.720 all fucked us in real life. 1:36:13.840 --> 1:36:16.760 Was really fucked up is that we didn't know he passed. Yeah, 1:36:16.920 --> 1:36:18.719 I remember when God bless him. 1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:21.559 As crazy as I was doing mad restart showing you right, 1:36:22.120 --> 1:36:23.880 and I went online, I've seen an interview from you 1:36:24.000 --> 1:36:27.120 from six years ago. Interview for you six years ago. 1:36:27.400 --> 1:36:29.800 It was envy was y'all was playing around, but it 1:36:30.160 --> 1:36:32.000 was like he kind of kept bringing up like street share, 1:36:32.000 --> 1:36:34.880 street street ship. But I'm not gonna say that that part. 1:36:35.320 --> 1:36:40.720 The part that intrigued me was like, you start talking 1:36:40.760 --> 1:36:43.960 about Nipsey Hustle, and I believe your words was man 1:36:44.240 --> 1:36:48.000 that if that shit could happen to Nipsey Hustle, Uh, 1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:51.880 it could happen. You know, do you think that was 1:36:51.920 --> 1:36:54.040 a mistake for Nipsey going back to the hood? 1:36:57.000 --> 1:36:58.880 Is was it a mistake for him to be back? 1:36:59.360 --> 1:37:01.519 I mean for him to be invested in the hood 1:37:01.640 --> 1:37:04.559 like that now just wanted It's like like you just said, right, 1:37:05.000 --> 1:37:07.080 you said you gave coach back to the hood. 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.080 You got this main old day, like, but I still 1:37:10.120 --> 1:37:11.000 go do things though. 1:37:11.120 --> 1:37:14.240 Yeah, I know I know that I'm asking this particular 1:37:14.240 --> 1:37:16.280 because you know, we actually got a run with Nipsey 1:37:16.360 --> 1:37:19.519 Hustle's brother, Black Sam and Marathon. I'm doing it February 1:37:19.560 --> 1:37:23.000 twenty first in LA You know, what I'm saying, and 1:37:23.120 --> 1:37:25.960 this is something I'm asking you as a as as 1:37:26.000 --> 1:37:28.360 a as a as an East Coaster, as a federal legend, 1:37:28.439 --> 1:37:31.679 do you think that that was a mistake for Nipsey 1:37:31.800 --> 1:37:34.120 invested into the hood? What I mean by investing, I 1:37:34.200 --> 1:37:37.720 mean his time and I mean the actual star like 1:37:37.840 --> 1:37:38.479 having it there. 1:37:45.200 --> 1:37:48.640 We only will say that in hindsight, mm hmm. We 1:37:48.800 --> 1:37:51.160 only we only will say that because of what happened. 1:37:52.720 --> 1:37:55.120 If had that not happened, we would be like, yo, 1:37:55.200 --> 1:37:55.960 he a real nigga. 1:37:56.400 --> 1:37:58.400 We would salute him for what he's doing. We would 1:37:58.439 --> 1:37:59.240 commend him for that. 1:37:59.760 --> 1:38:02.280 You know, we will be like, yo, he's he's in 1:38:02.360 --> 1:38:05.559 the community, he's giving back to the community. He cares 1:38:05.600 --> 1:38:09.800 about the community. So I don't I can't say that 1:38:09.920 --> 1:38:11.760 that was a mistake. I feel like that that was 1:38:11.840 --> 1:38:16.640 a that was an incident that reminds you that what 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:20.280 could happen because it's accessible, right when you're so accessible 1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:23.600 and the mentality of of of the hood, you know, 1:38:23.680 --> 1:38:23.920 can you. 1:38:24.000 --> 1:38:26.479 Can you blame the community? Straight up? 1:38:26.520 --> 1:38:29.559 I think that you can possibly happen if he invested 1:38:29.640 --> 1:38:32.400 somewhere else, the will it'll. 1:38:32.200 --> 1:38:35.000 Follow you any We can't blame the community, especially because 1:38:35.040 --> 1:38:36.400 generally speaking, he was loved. 1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:39.360 Right, generally speaking, I'm loved in my community. 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:42.240 Like so the issue could go anywhere, but you have 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:44.080 you got that one person. 1:38:43.960 --> 1:38:47.000 You got those one those two people that. 1:38:48.600 --> 1:38:52.040 So upset with their lives, so upset with the what 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:55.400 they see in the mirror, that they hate you more 1:38:55.479 --> 1:39:00.280 than they hate their situation. Right, they would, they they 1:39:00.320 --> 1:39:03.680 would spend more time, you know, on on on how 1:39:03.760 --> 1:39:08.479 to you off, then put energy into fixing that situation. 1:39:09.360 --> 1:39:11.600 But my question is this, if had he done the 1:39:11.640 --> 1:39:15.200 same thing in Santa Monica and then and people knew 1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:17.680 he was there daily, might not. 1:39:18.000 --> 1:39:18.519 The same thing? 1:39:19.600 --> 1:39:22.280 Right, Right, what you're saying is right, anything happened anywhere, 1:39:23.240 --> 1:39:27.720 you can't blame you can't blanket blame their community as 1:39:27.760 --> 1:39:29.960 a whole, because when it. 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:31.840 Goes back to what we said earlier, cut you off. 1:39:31.920 --> 1:39:32.720 But the streets is. 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:40.280 Because the most let's think about the streets, Let's think 1:39:40.280 --> 1:39:44.759 about our ghettos. The majority of our ghettos are filled 1:39:44.840 --> 1:39:53.799 with working class families that that don't adhere to street rules. 1:39:55.840 --> 1:39:59.439 Those mothers, those fathers that get up so right right 1:39:59.720 --> 1:40:01.920 and to work, get on the train, get on the 1:40:01.960 --> 1:40:02.320 bus to. 1:40:02.360 --> 1:40:05.040 Go to work, right, they got kids. 1:40:05.840 --> 1:40:08.519 They not part of the streets. The streets is a 1:40:08.600 --> 1:40:12.160 small community of people that come from there, right, that 1:40:12.520 --> 1:40:17.760 kind of delve into a certain lifestyle. Everybody that's from 1:40:17.840 --> 1:40:21.240 your project, So your block wasn't into the shit that. 1:40:21.280 --> 1:40:21.639 You was doing. 1:40:21.720 --> 1:40:24.400 It was a small portion of people. When you think 1:40:24.439 --> 1:40:28.200 about the largest scheme of things, everybody is not like, 1:40:28.280 --> 1:40:31.360 come on, think about your building. How many people in 1:40:31.439 --> 1:40:32.840 your building really was selling drugs? 1:40:33.560 --> 1:40:34.679 Not even half. 1:40:35.680 --> 1:40:37.679 How many people in your building was really shooting shit, 1:40:38.200 --> 1:40:42.280 not even half, not even half everybody. You know, drugs 1:40:42.320 --> 1:40:46.920 affected a lot of our families, but everybody didn't fall victim. 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:48.920 And that's the thing. 1:40:49.439 --> 1:40:53.080 You get older, you understart to understand that it's a 1:40:53.120 --> 1:40:54.720 little of the mentality. 1:40:54.760 --> 1:40:56.320 When I was younger, I used to go to church 1:40:56.400 --> 1:41:01.880 in forty projects, right, and I used to meet with 1:41:01.960 --> 1:41:04.600 these women. I mean, like you know, the churchwoman, a 1:41:04.680 --> 1:41:07.080 church woman, and they used to go back to forty projects. 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:09.880 They never knew they lived in the hood at all, right, 1:41:11.439 --> 1:41:15.760 people carrying their bags, like you know, they grocery bags. 1:41:15.800 --> 1:41:19.000 So these ladies was like they never. 1:41:19.040 --> 1:41:22.400 Looked at it, like they were in understanding. Because when 1:41:22.400 --> 1:41:25.840 you don't have anything to measure it against. Yeah, you 1:41:25.880 --> 1:41:28.519 don't have nothing to compare it to. If you lived 1:41:28.560 --> 1:41:32.040 in dark all this time and never seeing light, you 1:41:32.080 --> 1:41:34.280 would figure out how to make the best of the dark. 1:41:35.479 --> 1:41:37.120 You wouldn't have nothing to compare it to. 1:41:37.240 --> 1:41:37.280 You. 1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:39.479 You wouldn't be like, oh my god, it's light. 1:41:40.600 --> 1:41:41.280 You don't know light. 1:41:42.360 --> 1:41:43.400 All you know is the dog. 1:41:44.000 --> 1:41:46.800 So the pain that comes from being in an impolished 1:41:46.840 --> 1:41:51.160 neighborhood doesn't start to feel like pain unless you have 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:52.800 something something to compare it to. 1:41:56.400 --> 1:41:58.120 Let's go to a couple of your records. Let's go 1:41:58.240 --> 1:41:58.840 through some more. 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:04.880 Damn that did look good, bro, looked crazy. I pictured 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:05.680 some little last day. 1:42:05.720 --> 1:42:09.800 This was, Yeah, I was happy. People are flying in 1:42:09.920 --> 1:42:10.599 for all over there. 1:42:10.720 --> 1:42:13.080 That was It was like a wait, so how did 1:42:13.080 --> 1:42:13.759 it get destroyed? 1:42:14.280 --> 1:42:16.519 I think someone backed up into it, like May Odd 1:42:16.560 --> 1:42:17.360 with cool herks. 1:42:20.240 --> 1:42:23.719 That I minished something that I never admitted. 1:42:23.880 --> 1:42:27.880 You have to figure do you do work on drink Chat? 1:42:27.920 --> 1:42:31.360 And I hope you come and you got to get 1:42:31.439 --> 1:42:38.599 him a new school and all man, okay, you're gonna 1:42:38.640 --> 1:42:44.880 remember my name. Yeah, gotta be one of your hardest. Yeah. 1:42:45.040 --> 1:42:49.080 I had like fighters that come out to that make 1:42:49.200 --> 1:42:51.240 me remember money, Damn. 1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:53.040 I ain't thinking of that. That is a fighting song. Yeah, 1:42:53.200 --> 1:42:57.479 we gotta put that on a run camp ship. Yeah yeah, 1:42:57.800 --> 1:43:01.799 yeah inspiration. So where was you that men? Mentally? 1:43:01.920 --> 1:43:02.559 First album? 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:07.439 Man, you know, I'm not not glazing you, but let 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:09.519 me let you know how hard your first album is. 1:43:10.360 --> 1:43:13.400 I was high when I downloaded it. I downloaded the 1:43:13.640 --> 1:43:19.000 clean version and never knew, like, just kept playing and 1:43:19.800 --> 1:43:21.920 then I played it like in a barber somewhere and 1:43:21.960 --> 1:43:24.320 it's like, you know, you got the clean version. I 1:43:24.479 --> 1:43:26.720 was like, I didn't even know. That's how hard. I 1:43:26.840 --> 1:43:32.160 was so satisfied. I was very very from where you come. 1:43:32.320 --> 1:43:35.160 And then listening to that, that was That's one of 1:43:35.360 --> 1:43:36.200 a perfect album. 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:39.559 First album was with they say, you spend your lifetime 1:43:39.720 --> 1:43:42.400 making your first album, as they say, because you're talking 1:43:42.439 --> 1:43:45.160 about your truth, your energy, your life and all that, 1:43:46.040 --> 1:43:50.080 your childhood, you know, turning into an adult, whatever you've 1:43:50.120 --> 1:43:52.120 been through in that time. And then you make your 1:43:52.160 --> 1:43:54.960 first album and after that everything else else. After that 1:43:55.080 --> 1:43:57.600 you're trying to figure it out, like a crack the 1:43:57.680 --> 1:43:58.080 first high. 1:43:58.120 --> 1:44:01.840 Yeah, they keep chasing. That's absolute, absolutely yeah. So so 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:04.920 remember my name, what's your mentality? Where you at what 1:44:05.000 --> 1:44:05.559 studio you. 1:44:05.600 --> 1:44:09.519 At I'm in, I'm in, I mean blast off studio. 1:44:09.600 --> 1:44:10.559 That sounds like a pause. 1:44:10.680 --> 1:44:15.880 That doesn't sounds like a pause, but it sounds. 1:44:15.640 --> 1:44:17.840 Like blast off studios. 1:44:17.960 --> 1:44:21.559 Wow, I don't want to ask. 1:44:21.800 --> 1:44:24.720 That's at yeah Times Square. 1:44:25.640 --> 1:44:29.479 You know, and and you know it's at that at 1:44:29.520 --> 1:44:31.280 that point, like I felt like I had to point 1:44:31.360 --> 1:44:35.240 to pool musically, like I'm trying to come with the 1:44:35.280 --> 1:44:38.960 streets shipped and energy pains, you know what I mean, 1:44:40.520 --> 1:44:44.160 and and and but trying to paint a picture, you know. 1:44:46.760 --> 1:44:53.040 Uh Now, in the Tupac movie, Tupac movie, you play 1:44:53.120 --> 1:44:57.320 the names that kid Tupac. Yeah, yeah, weird, like when 1:44:57.320 --> 1:44:58.519 you go on the West Coast, Like. 1:44:59.120 --> 1:45:01.320 You know, how many people I don't funk with you? 1:45:01.400 --> 1:45:01.960 As you shot too? 1:45:03.400 --> 1:45:05.040 I'm like, is a movie? Yeah? 1:45:05.920 --> 1:45:06.080 You know? 1:45:06.320 --> 1:45:10.000 People was mad behind that shot, you know, like, I 1:45:10.120 --> 1:45:12.519 really don't Did you shoot him? 1:45:12.560 --> 1:45:15.280 On you? I shot him in the movie? 1:45:17.120 --> 1:45:23.519 Sounds crazy? I did shoot him in the movie. Yeah, 1:45:23.600 --> 1:45:29.559 I shot too, Yeah, so I shot Come on, man, 1:45:30.800 --> 1:45:31.400 I'm crazy. 1:45:32.560 --> 1:45:35.160 I shot to B in the movie. 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:35.920 In the movie. 1:45:35.960 --> 1:45:39.600 But your pause is wild, all right, Hold hold on. 1:45:41.800 --> 1:45:47.080 I shot to pop shot in the movie. I shot 1:45:47.120 --> 1:45:54.200 too in the movie shot. It was the movie though. 1:45:55.479 --> 1:45:58.439 I always wanted to ask you that because, like Park 1:45:58.600 --> 1:46:01.400 is not a regular dude like now you have. If 1:46:01.439 --> 1:46:04.920 you're a Park fan, you're like a Trump supporter. Yeah, 1:46:05.280 --> 1:46:07.679 get you away hard, yeah, die hard. 1:46:07.800 --> 1:46:11.960 Yes, fanatic niggas in my comments, Listen, I stopped working 1:46:12.000 --> 1:46:13.920 with you ever since I seen you shoot Tupac. What 1:46:16.160 --> 1:46:20.400 you what You can't even be mad at that? It's like, yeah, 1:46:20.439 --> 1:46:25.240 you do know it was just a light wee. You 1:46:25.280 --> 1:46:29.479 couldn't when the movie came out. You know, I just 1:46:29.560 --> 1:46:31.120 had a little part, right. 1:46:31.920 --> 1:46:34.479 You think this is a rat video? You think this 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:35.280 is a rat video. 1:46:35.439 --> 1:46:38.320 We told you, nigga, to let it down, right. 1:46:39.040 --> 1:46:44.400 I rented a whole movie theater, oh theater, whole theater, 1:46:44.720 --> 1:46:49.280 like the whole the whole room, like seventy two hundred whatever. 1:46:49.360 --> 1:46:51.640 The sease was rented it out, you know what I mean, 1:46:51.920 --> 1:46:54.679 just for that part. You know, had the whole boss 1:46:54.720 --> 1:46:57.760 set up like it was crazy, you know, go, yeah, 1:46:57.800 --> 1:46:58.640 we had to overdo it. 1:46:59.439 --> 1:47:03.800 Yeah, all right. The problem with that, that's not it's 1:47:03.840 --> 1:47:05.640 not a problem with that scene, but that scene is 1:47:05.800 --> 1:47:08.680 it's real good dudes, this is Brooklyn, dudes in there 1:47:10.360 --> 1:47:11.680 was you ever skeptical. 1:47:11.840 --> 1:47:12.720 Studio shooting that? 1:47:12.920 --> 1:47:14.720 Yes, what shooting? You thought? 1:47:20.920 --> 1:47:24.640 In my mind right now, they never depicted that. They 1:47:24.720 --> 1:47:26.160 never depicted what that looked like. 1:47:26.560 --> 1:47:29.960 Right, So all right, because obviously Bennie Boom is. 1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:32.360 The director out to Benny Boom, Bennie Boom is. 1:47:32.439 --> 1:47:38.800 Actually a New York director, received slack off top from everyone. 1:47:38.840 --> 1:47:43.800 I'm saying, oh, man, yeah, I think he's from Brooklyn, right, 1:47:44.720 --> 1:47:49.800 I believe he is. And then he actually hires real 1:47:50.080 --> 1:47:55.160 Brooklyn dudes to play the bad Brooklyn guy roll like 1:47:55.479 --> 1:47:58.920 did you read that, and be like, wait a minute, yeah. 1:47:59.360 --> 1:47:59.960 How this happened? 1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:00.320 Listen? 1:48:02.680 --> 1:48:04.880 I was in the zone. I was in the zone 1:48:04.960 --> 1:48:07.960 so hard that the nigga that looked like the nigga 1:48:08.720 --> 1:48:10.280 play like that played it pop. 1:48:11.360 --> 1:48:15.360 I was asking him, was he okay, am I hurting you, 1:48:15.439 --> 1:48:15.840 my nigga? 1:48:15.840 --> 1:48:22.040 Because Boom told me to just be your natural self. 1:48:23.280 --> 1:48:26.519 I was in that position and I was losing it. 1:48:26.560 --> 1:48:28.200 The ship that I'm saying, you go back and listen 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:30.880 to that movie. Everything that I'm saying in that movie, 1:48:31.240 --> 1:48:33.120 none of it was in the script. 1:48:33.520 --> 1:48:34.080 It shouldn't be. 1:48:35.880 --> 1:48:38.599 I'm sorry you think this is a rap video, nigga? 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:40.600 You know what happened to rappers that think this is 1:48:40.680 --> 1:48:41.559 a fucking video. 1:48:45.800 --> 1:48:48.840 Yeah, yeah, it was crazy, Like it was crazy. I was. 1:48:49.000 --> 1:48:53.720 I was someone else and I remember like, like, you're okay, bro, 1:48:54.360 --> 1:48:56.160 because I was. I felt like I was a method actor. 1:48:56.200 --> 1:48:56.400 I was. 1:48:58.560 --> 1:48:58.800 I was. 1:48:59.040 --> 1:49:00.840 I was on a set with the with the grip 1:49:00.920 --> 1:49:02.479 the whole time, like he was ready. 1:49:04.600 --> 1:49:06.240 For those of that don't know what the method actor 1:49:06.400 --> 1:49:08.680 is as a person who stays in character the whole yea, 1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:12.200 they go on the set, not break character. They tell 1:49:12.240 --> 1:49:15.439 you if his if his name was Matt Joy, they say, 1:49:15.560 --> 1:49:18.000 you got to call him, you got to call him 1:49:18.040 --> 1:49:19.639 the character. Character. 1:49:19.800 --> 1:49:19.960 Yeah. 1:49:21.840 --> 1:49:26.160 Act For those that don't know, And so now you 1:49:26.240 --> 1:49:28.680 went to the movie the that this comes out, what 1:49:28.840 --> 1:49:31.560 is the reaction besides these guys on Twitter like is this? 1:49:32.160 --> 1:49:34.920 Like, I mean, people gonna let assume my come Like. 1:49:38.120 --> 1:49:40.479 My mom's mad. She resid sitting right next to me 1:49:41.920 --> 1:49:45.240 in front of the movie even though it's ultra violet. 1:49:45.800 --> 1:49:47.240 You know what I mean, You know your mom's gonna 1:49:47.280 --> 1:49:48.200 root for you regardless. 1:49:49.160 --> 1:49:50.680 I bet my mom to the movie there that when 1:49:50.760 --> 1:49:53.679 I was smashing in the movie, I forgot Christmas. 1:49:53.800 --> 1:49:54.360 I was mad. 1:49:54.520 --> 1:49:55.160 I was mad. 1:49:57.360 --> 1:49:58.600 Yeah, I was like, for good, I. 1:49:58.600 --> 1:50:00.599 Got this smart and I'm gonna looking and my mom's 1:50:00.640 --> 1:50:05.559 like the whole movie the same way. 1:50:05.880 --> 1:50:06.960 But so. 1:50:09.439 --> 1:50:11.240 I know we spoke about it earlier with the acting, 1:50:11.720 --> 1:50:14.080 But is that something and I know you said you 1:50:14.200 --> 1:50:19.400 like producing more? Yeah, but is that something you're gonna 1:50:19.560 --> 1:50:20.320 you would. 1:50:20.160 --> 1:50:23.320 Like to pursue acting or they want to produce? 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:23.760 Ye? 1:50:23.800 --> 1:50:27.200 Yeah, you know about about you definitely right. 1:50:27.560 --> 1:50:29.519 Don't want to step outside of you as a. 1:50:30.520 --> 1:50:33.880 Step outside of what people think they generally know about me, 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:38.080 think you know, just going or like the gangster role. 1:50:40.160 --> 1:50:46.640 You know, the acting is like it's a lot of 1:50:46.760 --> 1:50:49.800 work mm hmm, and it takes up a lot of time. 1:50:50.640 --> 1:50:51.400 So it's like I. 1:50:52.960 --> 1:50:55.799 Want to be involved with the think tank. Let's figure 1:50:55.800 --> 1:50:58.960 out this movie. Let's you know, let's sit down, let's 1:50:58.960 --> 1:51:01.320 write it out. Got how to produce, Let's figure ou 1:51:01.320 --> 1:51:04.160 how to get it funded. I'm I'm more or less 1:51:05.360 --> 1:51:09.080 in that space than it is to me just pursuing acting, 1:51:09.560 --> 1:51:11.719 me getting an Asian and just going, you know, reading 1:51:11.760 --> 1:51:13.240 for roles. I don't want to just do that. 1:51:13.439 --> 1:51:17.439 Okay, agent Asian, I think you're going to get an Asian. 1:51:18.800 --> 1:51:22.040 I want to get Asian for that, definitely, not for 1:51:22.120 --> 1:51:23.320 that asient. 1:51:23.600 --> 1:51:26.240 Didn't you have a show called Star Tenders. 1:51:25.960 --> 1:51:26.880 Or I did it. 1:51:27.000 --> 1:51:28.320 I did a documentary like a. 1:51:28.400 --> 1:51:31.799 Porn it's like about the something against. 1:51:34.760 --> 1:51:35.479 Something against porn. 1:51:36.200 --> 1:51:37.839 No, no, no, it was like about the bartender. 1:51:38.439 --> 1:51:44.960 That's a question, you know, like p I'm good the 1:51:45.040 --> 1:51:48.480 poor capital of the world, all right, cool Miami. 1:51:48.360 --> 1:51:49.800 Yeah they don't. They blocked you porn. 1:51:50.080 --> 1:51:51.920 Everybody here work for a porn company and one point 1:51:53.000 --> 1:51:54.080 or at least my only fans. 1:51:54.439 --> 1:51:59.080 Yeah, so so so the documentary so that I did 1:51:59.160 --> 1:52:00.639 a documentary is called. 1:52:02.360 --> 1:52:05.559 A dill out of Time, a doll out of time, 1:52:05.640 --> 1:52:08.360 and it's it's about the strip club culture in New 1:52:08.439 --> 1:52:13.040 York City or how people coming to the strip clubs 1:52:13.040 --> 1:52:15.000 in New York City. They ain't coming to see the dancer. 1:52:15.000 --> 1:52:16.160 They come to see the bartender. 1:52:16.280 --> 1:52:17.960 That's that's that's all little secret though. 1:52:18.120 --> 1:52:22.040 Yeah, so it was it's about that I share. It's 1:52:22.080 --> 1:52:26.040 about how like I produced that. Okay, shout out to 1:52:26.080 --> 1:52:30.240 my man Jay J. Rober Rodriguez because he's, you know, 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:35.240 mastermind that with me, people come to the strip club 1:52:35.280 --> 1:52:40.880 in New York to see the popping star tender or 1:52:41.000 --> 1:52:44.200 bartender or whatever. Our city is a little bit different. 1:52:44.320 --> 1:52:46.800 They're not coming really so much for the dancers. It's 1:52:46.840 --> 1:52:48.160 about that lit bartender. 1:52:48.720 --> 1:52:49.479 What makes her lit? 1:52:49.520 --> 1:52:53.519 Though the following what I'm saying is that the drinks. 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:58.960 It's her, it's her, it's her, it's You got lit 1:52:59.080 --> 1:53:01.559 bartenders in New York City that people, It's like they 1:53:01.640 --> 1:53:03.120 have a certain order about themselves. 1:53:03.200 --> 1:53:06.320 That people. Yeah, it's a real thing. It's a real thing. 1:53:06.360 --> 1:53:09.280 When you think about Starlet's Starlis is a a is 1:53:09.320 --> 1:53:12.920 a pretty well known strip club worldwide. You got you 1:53:13.000 --> 1:53:15.519 got people that come to Starlets from across the world. 1:53:15.880 --> 1:53:17.360 They come to New York and they say, oh, we 1:53:17.439 --> 1:53:19.280 want to see Tom Square and you know what else 1:53:19.400 --> 1:53:20.640 we want to see starlets? 1:53:21.120 --> 1:53:23.920 Damn and you you know what made Stalus apartment. 1:53:24.000 --> 1:53:27.839 It's not not the dancer. It was always the bartender. 1:53:28.400 --> 1:53:31.320 It was always and only about the bartenders when it 1:53:31.400 --> 1:53:35.280 came to that. So that was what the documentary is about, 1:53:35.400 --> 1:53:36.320 is about that culture. 1:53:36.600 --> 1:53:42.560 It's different in Miami. You don't give as New York, nowhere. 1:53:42.280 --> 1:53:49.240 Else, nowhere else on this planet as a bartender that revered. Wow, 1:53:49.520 --> 1:53:55.120 I didn't notice that that is that is strictly it's 1:53:55.160 --> 1:53:56.760 specifically a New York thing. 1:53:59.200 --> 1:54:01.519 I wonder how that deployment works, like how they trade 1:54:01.560 --> 1:54:03.280 off those contracts. 1:54:04.240 --> 1:54:08.160 Oh, look at bag girls? Yeah that was I shot 1:54:08.200 --> 1:54:08.799 that in Detroit. 1:54:09.280 --> 1:54:15.240 Let me see the bag girls. Yeah? So all right, 1:54:17.400 --> 1:54:21.360 who got the better strip clubs? Miami or New York? What? What? 1:54:21.600 --> 1:54:21.640 What? 1:54:21.880 --> 1:54:24.200 What that inform makes you? Just like Miami? You're seeing 1:54:24.320 --> 1:54:29.040 pussy like that wasn't like what you get shut away 1:54:29.080 --> 1:54:33.840 from it. I forgot that part. 1:54:35.920 --> 1:54:38.840 Like you're singing like it's it's real. You can't really 1:54:38.880 --> 1:54:39.360 compare it. 1:54:40.440 --> 1:54:44.680 I think. I think, guess why the bartenders are more famous. 1:54:44.840 --> 1:54:46.120 We got great partenders down here too. 1:54:46.160 --> 1:54:47.200 Bro, what you're all talking about? 1:54:47.320 --> 1:54:49.400 I'm not sure that I think the New York thing. 1:54:49.600 --> 1:54:51.720 I think I think the New York thing. I think 1:54:51.760 --> 1:54:54.280 it's the mystique of them. I think it's the low 1:54:54.320 --> 1:54:55.960 of them. I think it's the fantasy of them because 1:54:55.960 --> 1:54:58.040 you see them on Instagram, of the bars you think 1:54:58.280 --> 1:54:59.839 you think of, like Burnice Burgos. 1:55:00.840 --> 1:55:04.280 You heard her, Yeah, makes to make like a million 1:55:04.360 --> 1:55:06.360 almost a year. Where is she come from? She comes 1:55:06.360 --> 1:55:07.720 from Stallus. Damn, I ain't know that. 1:55:08.280 --> 1:55:09.080 That's how you know her? 1:55:09.760 --> 1:55:12.960 She she created a brand that started in Stallus and 1:55:13.080 --> 1:55:15.280 then she was smart enough to build on that brand. 1:55:15.320 --> 1:55:17.720 But she worked in Starless for I think two years 1:55:19.000 --> 1:55:22.160 and made a name for herself. That's how popular these 1:55:22.240 --> 1:55:25.200 girls get in New York City strip club. 1:55:25.920 --> 1:55:28.240 All Right, So a person coming saying they kind of 1:55:28.320 --> 1:55:29.600 like strippers too in a sense. 1:55:30.040 --> 1:55:31.800 Yeah, they pretty much. 1:55:31.680 --> 1:55:33.640 The same strippers. They look like stripper. 1:55:34.600 --> 1:55:36.600 Yeah. So a person just coming to New York and 1:55:36.680 --> 1:55:39.400 they want to have a good time. What strip clubs? 1:55:40.360 --> 1:55:44.400 They frequent starts. We already know that, we. 1:55:44.440 --> 1:55:47.200 Already know Styllis. But the quietly the best strip club 1:55:47.240 --> 1:55:51.480 in New York. And no, damn, you gotta come home, 1:55:52.480 --> 1:55:54.920 you gotta come home soon. Ain't been around for fifteen years. 1:55:56.720 --> 1:56:04.560 Out of the games, out h River, Yarra's River. 1:56:05.320 --> 1:56:08.120 It's quietly been the best strip club this whole time. 1:56:08.640 --> 1:56:10.800 They don't do no promotions, they don't do no artists, 1:56:10.800 --> 1:56:12.480 they don't give who you is. You ain't coming, you 1:56:12.480 --> 1:56:16.440 gotta take your hat off. Quietly they've been the best. 1:56:16.480 --> 1:56:17.840 And and it's late night. 1:56:18.040 --> 1:56:20.760 They probably don't close about nine o'clock in the morning. 1:56:21.560 --> 1:56:26.520 Of course, Queen, I want you to say that every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:56:30.600 --> 1:56:31.160 I don't know how. 1:56:32.800 --> 1:56:34.720 Definitely Little. 1:56:36.040 --> 1:56:40.320 Yeah's name of the top five we got starlets? 1:56:40.440 --> 1:56:46.800 Yeah, we ever name three more sugar Daddy, I ain't 1:56:46.800 --> 1:56:47.320 been a sugar that. 1:56:47.440 --> 1:56:48.160 I don't know what that is. 1:56:49.240 --> 1:56:52.040 Where is that Queen's Everything Queen dream? 1:56:52.800 --> 1:56:52.920 Right? 1:56:53.320 --> 1:56:54.160 No, where's that? 1:56:54.320 --> 1:56:57.360 That's not way too that's all? And like everything is 1:56:57.440 --> 1:56:59.880 in the l I c Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:56:59.880 --> 1:57:00.880 I been to that one long. 1:57:00.920 --> 1:57:01.360 You know what I mean? 1:57:01.400 --> 1:57:03.840 Every everything is kind of like in that area. Okay, 1:57:03.920 --> 1:57:08.520 you know, and what else I want to say? Dream? Okay, 1:57:08.640 --> 1:57:10.200 dream right some Queens Boulevard? 1:57:10.280 --> 1:57:12.920 Okay, uh uh? 1:57:15.640 --> 1:57:16.080 Perfection? 1:57:16.400 --> 1:57:17.600 Which one of your niggas said that? 1:57:18.640 --> 1:57:22.720 Which one take from you said? Perfection? Perfection ain't been 1:57:23.080 --> 1:57:28.920 my nigga. Damn, your niggas ain't been in New York. 1:57:30.200 --> 1:57:30.920 Your niggas ain't been. 1:57:32.400 --> 1:57:38.200 I see this is crazy. Miami living is good. 1:57:40.160 --> 1:57:42.080 What was that strip club that was next to the block, 1:57:42.240 --> 1:57:45.960 like booth go, no, not go to the lady. I'm 1:57:46.000 --> 1:57:49.040 waiting to go to the lady with case slid yeh 1:57:49.560 --> 1:57:51.960 was ten deep and we got to talk about that. 1:57:52.200 --> 1:57:58.200 But no, I'm talking about on the same block. It 1:57:58.320 --> 1:58:01.720 was on the on the on them like not Sin 1:58:01.840 --> 1:58:03.960 City they have. I'm looking for I'm out of the loops. 1:58:05.520 --> 1:58:07.600 The Bronx used to be the king at the strip 1:58:07.680 --> 1:58:11.360 clubs when I and like that's what Sue was. 1:58:11.480 --> 1:58:14.200 Sus was up there like yeah, yeah, that was a 1:58:14.240 --> 1:58:14.720 different time. 1:58:14.760 --> 1:58:15.520 That was a different time. 1:58:15.600 --> 1:58:18.320 That was before the influence of the South. Okay, and 1:58:18.440 --> 1:58:23.320 with the influence of the South, but the music, the 1:58:23.400 --> 1:58:26.440 culture change. So the strip clubs that we got now 1:58:26.680 --> 1:58:29.720 is not light those Okay, it's different, even though we 1:58:29.840 --> 1:58:31.000 have our own version of it. 1:58:31.080 --> 1:58:31.800 It's not like that. 1:58:32.240 --> 1:58:34.280 It's not like Golden Lady or Sin City and none 1:58:34.280 --> 1:58:37.600 of that. It's like bartender driven. You know, it's heavy, 1:58:38.280 --> 1:58:41.040 you know, heavy b b L right, you know, and 1:58:41.200 --> 1:58:43.680 it's you know, it's it's heavy. 1:58:43.600 --> 1:58:47.120 Queens that means BBL means like but you know what 1:58:47.600 --> 1:58:59.640 bb Come on, let's take a shot. Shot you think 1:58:59.800 --> 1:59:03.720 I'm I'm gonna take a shot. Yeah, Oh okay, okay, 1:59:05.160 --> 1:59:10.000 not to kill her, but let's talk about you drinking tequilla? 1:59:11.240 --> 1:59:13.560 Are you a tequilla drinker? Is that your go to drink? 1:59:14.160 --> 1:59:16.680 Like you're going to start this it's that night of 1:59:16.800 --> 1:59:20.440 river ere you go in order to kill her, because 1:59:20.480 --> 1:59:22.400 to kill us, they said to kill you. 1:59:23.760 --> 1:59:26.840 Yeah, I just I think tequila is the hot drink. 1:59:27.800 --> 1:59:29.920 It's very healthy, you know. Yeah, I feel like it's 1:59:29.960 --> 1:59:31.400 the hot drinks. 1:59:31.520 --> 1:59:36.040 Everybody's doing it, like in nineteen forty two Don Julio 1:59:36.160 --> 1:59:39.440 Riversido or Classia Zoo, like it's the thing to do. 1:59:39.600 --> 1:59:43.760 I think it's it's it's it's like a fatt it's cool. 1:59:44.520 --> 1:59:44.680 You know. 1:59:45.720 --> 1:59:49.520 So yeah, that's what I don't know why. Yeah, they 1:59:49.560 --> 1:59:50.920 say it's a gove is that? 1:59:51.080 --> 1:59:51.320 Is that what? 1:59:53.440 --> 1:59:54.160 I didn't know? 1:59:54.440 --> 1:59:55.000 Health benefit? 1:59:55.360 --> 1:59:58.440 Yeah, well well no te quilla is I know drink. 1:59:58.560 --> 1:59:59.560 I drink it straight though. 1:59:59.680 --> 2:00:03.280 Okay, yeah, I'm saying chase up. Yeah. So they say 2:00:03.680 --> 2:00:07.280 no alcohol is good, but the clean, the clean, cleanest 2:00:07.320 --> 2:00:10.760 alcohol is to killer. Really they said, yeah, oh, I 2:00:10.800 --> 2:00:11.480 thought it was vodka. 2:00:13.280 --> 2:00:14.080 Number three said that. 2:00:14.400 --> 2:00:15.160 They used to say that. 2:00:15.360 --> 2:00:18.920 I believe it was to Believe red wine. Really, so 2:00:19.200 --> 2:00:19.720 I can't have this. 2:00:20.040 --> 2:00:22.760 Number one is tequila. That's about this. 2:00:23.360 --> 2:00:29.600 Yeah, I'm a professional because I heard ka before. Noo 2:00:29.840 --> 2:00:31.640 is like number three, trust me, that was my joint. 2:00:32.720 --> 2:00:35.800 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah wow. So you're not on 2:00:36.000 --> 2:00:38.920 that organic ship organic what like organic? 2:00:39.120 --> 2:00:39.240 Uh? 2:00:41.040 --> 2:00:46.160 Because people would be like I'm organic, just like that organic. Yeah, 2:00:46.240 --> 2:00:47.960 you don't know. That's what. I didn't even know. I 2:00:48.040 --> 2:00:48.480 even heard that. 2:00:48.560 --> 2:00:53.240 That's Miami ship even though no, I went to l 2:00:53.320 --> 2:00:53.920 A recently. 2:00:54.000 --> 2:00:56.480 Damn, who the hell is with me? Ship? They had 2:00:56.520 --> 2:01:00.080 a whole what they had a whole side of the 2:01:00.120 --> 2:01:02.840 place where we went to with no alcohol tails. 2:01:02.880 --> 2:01:05.440 And you said he was coming at me when I said. 2:01:05.280 --> 2:01:09.880 That, because they wasn't calling that. Okay, drinking joy mine 2:01:10.600 --> 2:01:12.879 right now, I'm on that. I'm on that wine, Julio 2:01:13.680 --> 2:01:20.560 wine wine. I'm on that wine. But I'm a I'm 2:01:20.600 --> 2:01:21.520 a hubigie drinker. 2:01:22.280 --> 2:01:22.400 Was that? 2:01:22.520 --> 2:01:26.640 Yeah, that's the Japanese whiskey. It's it's for the it's 2:01:26.720 --> 2:01:29.000 for the you know, if you want, if you want 2:01:29.640 --> 2:01:32.200 more hair on your chest, this is what we go with. 2:01:32.440 --> 2:01:36.240 Right But then, and I like, Champagne, Champaga. You know, 2:01:36.640 --> 2:01:38.840 Spade is the best, you know, in the case we didn't, 2:01:38.880 --> 2:01:40.600 we didn't get to that. You know, you know, we 2:01:40.720 --> 2:01:44.680 drink the Spade over here, the best in the world. Champagne. 2:01:46.200 --> 2:01:47.600 Who is your favorite new artist? 2:01:50.320 --> 2:01:50.920 New artists? 2:01:55.040 --> 2:01:59.120 I like, who's a new artist right now? We've got 2:01:59.160 --> 2:02:03.400 a bunch of them, And uh, what's my man? Cash 2:02:03.480 --> 2:02:10.960 Cobain's Uh oh, this little ship is still new. Okay, 2:02:12.480 --> 2:02:13.960 well it changed every day. 2:02:14.040 --> 2:02:15.880 Man, all right, what's considered new. 2:02:16.120 --> 2:02:18.560 He's been in the game a year or less, a year. 2:02:20.080 --> 2:02:23.480 Or maybe late. Yeah, damn busting out my socking. Anybody 2:02:23.480 --> 2:02:27.840 said that gave permission for that? You think you did. 2:02:29.280 --> 2:02:33.480 I was talking about choking wine. Bro, I'm good, I'm good, good, 2:02:33.640 --> 2:02:35.040 go ahead. I don't know. 2:02:35.280 --> 2:02:38.480 I like I funk with I funk with the music. 2:02:38.560 --> 2:02:39.280 That's that. 2:02:39.400 --> 2:02:39.920 I just like. 2:02:40.320 --> 2:02:42.360 I'm a big Young Blue fan, and I want every 2:02:42.400 --> 2:02:43.040 time I say that. 2:02:43.520 --> 2:02:50.840 People be like, what I love young Blue, Young Blue? Yeah, yeah, 2:02:51.040 --> 2:02:52.840 young Blue. I got a track with this nigga, right, 2:02:53.160 --> 2:02:55.160 I called him, Yeah, I called him blue. 2:02:55.240 --> 2:02:56.800 Yeah, you didn't know what's fun? 2:02:57.960 --> 2:02:58.480 It's blue. 2:02:59.280 --> 2:03:05.040 Let's do a shot of that and we love killed me. 2:03:06.760 --> 2:03:12.800 That was crazy us. Okay, God comes down Earth guy, 2:03:13.800 --> 2:03:18.160 he goes see you, and he said, man, no, you 2:03:18.280 --> 2:03:23.000 get to make one track, and you get any feature 2:03:23.120 --> 2:03:27.080 in the world, and you get any producer in the 2:03:27.160 --> 2:03:31.680 world to produce that beat. Who is main o? And 2:03:31.760 --> 2:03:34.280 this is a two part question because we know you're 2:03:34.320 --> 2:03:42.480 gonna go big, so one dad and then one ship 2:03:43.600 --> 2:03:46.400 you got you gotta Yeah, you got a two part question. 2:03:46.480 --> 2:03:49.320 So it's two parts. One is you can you can 2:03:49.400 --> 2:03:54.480 go with the dad, and then the other is the 2:03:54.600 --> 2:03:55.360 alive feature. 2:03:55.680 --> 2:04:00.680 If I go dead, then I need poking big damn. 2:04:00.720 --> 2:04:02.600 I've never heard nobody say that that was That was 2:04:02.600 --> 2:04:03.920 a slick one. I'm gonna take out of that. 2:04:04.600 --> 2:04:05.040 Let's do that. 2:04:05.080 --> 2:04:08.680 You got me on that one. Now are people who 2:04:08.680 --> 2:04:11.320 arelive and the producer and who's producing the pocket a 2:04:11.360 --> 2:04:15.480 big record and the producer could be dead too. I'm 2:04:15.520 --> 2:04:17.240 sorry you just changed it all. 2:04:17.240 --> 2:04:19.240 Then it ain't that many dead producers. 2:04:19.520 --> 2:04:22.160 It is a producers. 2:04:22.200 --> 2:04:24.120 Don't die hip hop hip hop don't die. 2:04:24.160 --> 2:04:24.760 You're right, this is. 2:04:24.760 --> 2:04:25.800 Don't die, damn. 2:04:26.400 --> 2:04:28.680 And if they do die, it's not by gun violence. 2:04:28.920 --> 2:04:32.120 They are immortal, all right, Yeah they live? So who's 2:04:32.160 --> 2:04:54.200 producing that? Just blaze? I like that act all right? Now? 2:04:54.320 --> 2:04:57.240 A live feature, a love feature. But this is one 2:04:57.240 --> 2:05:01.080 of a little bit different. God is asking you saying, okay, alive, alive, 2:05:01.320 --> 2:05:03.800 but he's saying this record is gonna change humanity. 2:05:04.880 --> 2:05:08.360 Jesus christanity, He's gonna change humanity. 2:05:09.720 --> 2:05:10.440 Shoulders right now? 2:05:11.080 --> 2:05:12.040 Ch is what. 2:05:13.840 --> 2:05:14.720 Already up? 2:05:14.920 --> 2:05:15.120 Yeah? 2:05:15.520 --> 2:05:18.720 To the better place, to a better place, Bruno Marsh 2:05:19.000 --> 2:05:21.560 Western feature Now who produces that. 2:05:26.880 --> 2:05:30.440 Damn producers that they got to be like what's his name? 2:05:30.520 --> 2:05:30.800 Doctor? 2:05:32.360 --> 2:05:35.880 Oh now doctor, that would be a good one. But 2:05:36.160 --> 2:05:39.680 Quincy Jones, man, but they can't be leaving the witness man. 2:05:39.920 --> 2:05:44.160 Quincy Jones left us peace. So this is these people 2:05:44.240 --> 2:05:47.560 that's alive. Yeah, yeah, oh. 2:05:49.440 --> 2:05:52.760 All right? For real? Pharrell would be good, would be good. 2:05:52.800 --> 2:05:54.480 That's what I like for Rell. 2:05:54.960 --> 2:05:57.080 I like for Rell, Bruno Mars. I like that out 2:05:57.120 --> 2:05:57.440 the box. 2:05:57.480 --> 2:06:01.640 I like to go after box like have you ever 2:06:01.760 --> 2:06:02.240 have it worked with? 2:06:02.960 --> 2:06:03.120 Never? 2:06:03.360 --> 2:06:07.160 Okay, Unfortunately I wasn't that lucky. Nothing functioning. 2:06:07.480 --> 2:06:08.360 No, it would happen. 2:06:08.520 --> 2:06:11.200 No, so pretty print it havings. 2:06:11.640 --> 2:06:17.080 So one night out here, uh nows just hanging out. 2:06:17.200 --> 2:06:20.480 He's he went to Havoc party and I hear that 2:06:20.640 --> 2:06:24.080 you see nas Yeah, and you say, I apologize for 2:06:24.160 --> 2:06:31.680 my brother Jim Jones. The reason everyone. 2:06:31.520 --> 2:06:33.920 Happened because now I was like, yeah, I got something 2:06:33.920 --> 2:06:34.839 for your man Jones. 2:06:35.360 --> 2:06:39.800 He said, oh guy, and we laughing. He was with you. 2:06:39.880 --> 2:06:44.000 It's all good boy, like get it, it's all love, 2:06:44.080 --> 2:06:44.640 you know what I mean. 2:06:44.960 --> 2:06:49.120 But what happened was I told Nash, I said, listen, 2:06:50.160 --> 2:06:51.520 a really close friend of mine. 2:06:52.560 --> 2:06:54.880 He's in love with you like this this female who 2:06:56.240 --> 2:06:59.920 is going, you know, shout out the rose. 2:07:00.960 --> 2:07:04.080 She is in love with Nas and she met Naves before, 2:07:04.680 --> 2:07:07.160 but she was just too afraid to tell him how 2:07:07.240 --> 2:07:10.880 she felt. So she always bugging me about, hey, man, 2:07:10.960 --> 2:07:13.360 can you introduce me to Nas? Like I just want Nas. 2:07:13.400 --> 2:07:17.280 I'm like, NAS don't want you, right, But then it's like, 2:07:17.360 --> 2:07:18.960 I'm why would I say that? 2:07:19.320 --> 2:07:22.200 That's bad for me to do. I'm blocking her blessings. 2:07:22.480 --> 2:07:24.800 So one day she she called me and talking it's 2:07:24.840 --> 2:07:29.000 no ship, and she says, I really want to speak 2:07:29.000 --> 2:07:30.320 to him. I say, yo, I'm gonna put you on 2:07:30.400 --> 2:07:33.120 the phone with Nas. And after this, the fucker ask 2:07:33.240 --> 2:07:33.720 me for ship. 2:07:34.400 --> 2:07:34.720 Okay. 2:07:35.600 --> 2:07:37.160 So one day she called me and I was like, 2:07:37.680 --> 2:07:38.840 I got Nas on the line. 2:07:39.680 --> 2:07:42.720 Okay. She like for real? Like for real? 2:07:42.720 --> 2:07:43.880 I say, yeah, for real? 2:07:44.360 --> 2:07:45.040 She don't know that. 2:07:45.160 --> 2:07:47.080 I called my homie and was like, listen, I need 2:07:47.160 --> 2:07:56.360 you to play like Nas. I said, I said, I 2:07:56.480 --> 2:07:59.680 need you to act like Nas. Okay, just you know, 2:08:00.280 --> 2:08:02.760 say certain certain ship that Nas will say like you 2:08:02.840 --> 2:08:03.920 know my black queen like. 2:08:09.760 --> 2:08:10.200 That did. 2:08:11.920 --> 2:08:12.320 Forgive me? 2:08:12.920 --> 2:08:15.680 Say, you know, the Nas is a knowledgeable guy. 2:08:17.880 --> 2:08:22.880 This is Nas in it and you know, he said, 2:08:22.920 --> 2:08:27.040 all right, I got it, and he didn't get the 2:08:27.080 --> 2:08:28.200 assignment the right way. 2:08:29.120 --> 2:08:29.640 My homeboy. 2:08:30.160 --> 2:08:31.880 He gets on the phone and the first thing he 2:08:31.960 --> 2:08:34.720 says is what my black queen, my black queen, my black. 2:08:38.120 --> 2:08:39.680 He said, yeah, my black queen, my black one. 2:08:39.680 --> 2:08:40.520 He and man who told me? 2:08:40.960 --> 2:08:43.480 Because I jumped on the line, like you nas Mama 2:08:43.640 --> 2:08:45.480 was telling you about my girl Rose and me I 2:08:45.600 --> 2:08:46.040 was telling you. 2:08:46.120 --> 2:08:47.560 That she she in love with you. 2:08:47.680 --> 2:08:49.480 She's just afraid of you niggas. She don't know what 2:08:49.560 --> 2:08:52.960 to say to you. And he getting on the lines. Yeah, 2:08:53.000 --> 2:08:54.240 my black queen, my black queen. 2:08:54.080 --> 2:08:54.600 My black queen. 2:08:56.200 --> 2:08:59.080 He's supposed to be like, yes, that's how he. 2:09:01.120 --> 2:09:04.600 So after he's said my black queen about sixteen. 2:09:04.320 --> 2:09:09.040 Times, right because right, no, she she was just like hey, 2:09:09.640 --> 2:09:12.320 like hey, Like he was like yeah, you know, I 2:09:12.320 --> 2:09:14.920 ain't got that much time and like that, but you know, 2:09:15.240 --> 2:09:16.440 I'm gonna get your number. 2:09:16.240 --> 2:09:19.480 From man Oh wow. She'd been waiting for him to call. 2:09:19.680 --> 2:09:21.960 I'm gonna get your number from Mano and you know 2:09:21.960 --> 2:09:23.400 what I mean, and it's you know, saw I love 2:09:23.400 --> 2:09:26.560 on my black queen. And she's just like okay, I said, yea, 2:09:26.560 --> 2:09:28.560 I'm gonna give you a number, man, like for real, 2:09:28.680 --> 2:09:30.320 just you know, give him a call over me now 2:09:30.360 --> 2:09:31.080 and then you know what I mean. 2:09:31.480 --> 2:09:31.800 Whatever. 2:09:32.360 --> 2:09:35.160 He hangs up. I'm gonna play this ship for you, 2:09:35.680 --> 2:09:40.080 right because I haven't recorded. And she calls me back 2:09:40.120 --> 2:09:42.560 and was like, you know, I recorded that that wasn't NADS. 2:09:42.600 --> 2:09:44.919 I said it fucking was grateful. 2:09:46.240 --> 2:09:46.960 That was fucking no. 2:09:48.000 --> 2:09:52.960 When I seen ours that day, I told him, I said, listen, yeah, 2:09:53.000 --> 2:09:54.320 don't be mad at me. I guess it was a 2:09:54.360 --> 2:09:57.560 short version. I said, listen, I set somebody up and 2:09:57.640 --> 2:10:00.360 I played like it was you. He said, Yo, you crazy, 2:10:00.400 --> 2:10:02.960 You got your fucking mind, Like you know what I'm saying. 2:10:03.040 --> 2:10:06.720 Like to this day, I've never admitted that it wasn't Nas. 2:10:08.360 --> 2:10:09.440 Just make some noise in this ship. 2:10:13.320 --> 2:10:15.560 You're such a myself let me so, let me ask. 2:10:17.600 --> 2:10:19.880 I think I know the answer, but I'm just gonna 2:10:19.960 --> 2:10:23.200 ask because I can see people in the comment session 2:10:23.280 --> 2:10:27.840 saying something, what's the difference between you hanging with NAS 2:10:27.960 --> 2:10:31.360 if you wouldn't hang with Max? Good question. 2:10:35.320 --> 2:10:40.200 One is considered to be a real, a real problem, 2:10:41.160 --> 2:10:45.840 and one is just some competitive viral. I feel how 2:10:45.920 --> 2:10:48.200 I feel because I feel like I'm that that I'm 2:10:48.280 --> 2:10:52.600 that I'm that nigga. You know what I'm saying. You 2:10:52.720 --> 2:10:56.280 think you know Jim Jones saying NOAs it's not a problem. 2:10:56.880 --> 2:10:58.600 You know the funniest shit I got it. I got 2:10:58.760 --> 2:11:04.120 in trouble because of you know called Jim, because I 2:11:04.200 --> 2:11:05.640 got in the breakfast club and I was like, yo, 2:11:05.680 --> 2:11:08.600 I see where Jim is coming from, and all the 2:11:08.680 --> 2:11:15.240 whole Queen's bridge better than what I said. I just said, 2:11:15.280 --> 2:11:17.800 I see where he's coming from. Like I just say 2:11:17.840 --> 2:11:20.360 he's better than Nos. But I see like that confidence. 2:11:20.440 --> 2:11:22.720 Sometimes you got to wake up in the morning and 2:11:22.880 --> 2:11:27.000 feel like that should be that person. When I tell you, boy, 2:11:27.320 --> 2:11:30.120 oh my god, I got a queens where it's trouble bro. 2:11:30.240 --> 2:11:32.520 I was like, I was thinking I was in punishment 2:11:32.560 --> 2:11:38.080 for you know, Nos is a rap god and one 2:11:38.160 --> 2:11:39.600 about he laughed. 2:11:40.920 --> 2:11:42.920 He was not saying he was laughing. Yes, he laughed 2:11:42.920 --> 2:11:44.160 it off. He's like, Yo, you know I got something 2:11:44.240 --> 2:11:47.240 your man up. It ain't nothing. 2:11:47.240 --> 2:11:47.760 It's all love. 2:11:47.880 --> 2:11:54.200 Right. So the competitive nature of hip hop right for 2:11:54.360 --> 2:11:57.000 nigga like Jim, he popping his ship. I feel like 2:11:57.360 --> 2:12:00.920 he's the most improved niggas rapping is you know you're 2:12:00.960 --> 2:12:02.400 doing what you do, right? 2:12:03.360 --> 2:12:04.600 Is it really a disrespect? 2:12:04.760 --> 2:12:04.800 No? 2:12:05.560 --> 2:12:07.400 But for the fans, they're like, how dare you? 2:12:09.400 --> 2:12:12.200 How dare you rep nos the rap guard? You could 2:12:12.240 --> 2:12:13.760 never compare. But at the end of the day, he 2:12:13.880 --> 2:12:16.280 understand our rhythm. He's saying, some ship that's gonna have 2:12:16.360 --> 2:12:17.760 everybody talking, and it worked. 2:12:17.880 --> 2:12:19.560 When do you think it turns into disrespect? 2:12:19.640 --> 2:12:19.680 Like? 2:12:19.720 --> 2:12:20.200 What makes it. 2:12:23.880 --> 2:12:24.080 Okay? 2:12:24.280 --> 2:12:25.280 I'm asking in general? 2:12:25.480 --> 2:12:28.160 Well, he asked me about the difference between the non 2:12:28.280 --> 2:12:29.800 situation and the mass B situation. 2:12:29.880 --> 2:12:35.680 And the mass B situation, there's a situation where there. 2:12:35.720 --> 2:12:40.560 Was a real, real discrepancy, you know, And who am 2:12:40.600 --> 2:12:45.680 I to say what's serious and what is not. I'm 2:12:45.720 --> 2:12:49.680 from the thought of if if nobody got dropped, nobody 2:12:49.800 --> 2:12:51.000 got shot, nobody got. 2:12:50.960 --> 2:12:54.000 Hurt, then it ain't really that serious. But that's that's 2:12:54.160 --> 2:12:54.960 just who I am. 2:12:55.560 --> 2:12:58.760 I can't project that on somebody else because a certain 2:12:58.840 --> 2:13:02.160 level of disrespect could be that serious. They could be 2:13:02.280 --> 2:13:05.160 lifetime serious, you know what I'm saying. So you know 2:13:05.240 --> 2:13:06.760 what I think, that's what the difference is. 2:13:07.280 --> 2:13:09.840 You know, I felt like I was watching y'all show 2:13:09.960 --> 2:13:14.640 once and you had asked Jim, and I believe Jim 2:13:14.800 --> 2:13:17.920 is like no, and I believe y'all never never spoke 2:13:17.920 --> 2:13:22.200 about it again. We have okay off there, Yeah, okay, okay, okay, 2:13:22.600 --> 2:13:26.520 yeah again. This is something that I wish, like you know, 2:13:26.720 --> 2:13:28.320 hip hop, certain things we would get over. 2:13:28.520 --> 2:13:32.080 We were I wrote him along text one day. 2:13:32.160 --> 2:13:35.200 Okay, like talking because I felt like you were trying 2:13:35.240 --> 2:13:40.640 to fix it absolutely And this is me just spitballing 2:13:40.680 --> 2:13:42.800 because I don't I don't know right, Like I said, man, 2:13:42.880 --> 2:13:45.000 Jim is my man, like I love Jim Jones man, 2:13:45.080 --> 2:13:46.560 like you know, I got to see him in the beginning, 2:13:46.720 --> 2:13:48.960 and I also got to see Camon. But let's let's 2:13:49.160 --> 2:13:53.840 speak about do you think that him and Max? What 2:13:53.920 --> 2:13:56.120 do you think could be fixed more him and Max 2:13:56.240 --> 2:13:57.280 or him and Can. 2:13:59.480 --> 2:14:02.120 Personally we could get to a space that we're all 2:14:02.200 --> 2:14:03.200 sitting in a room together. 2:14:03.400 --> 2:14:05.240 That's why I respect that. 2:14:05.560 --> 2:14:07.480 That's what I personally I wish. 2:14:08.120 --> 2:14:11.800 I wrote him. I wrote him a long text one day, Yim. 2:14:12.240 --> 2:14:15.320 Yeah, it was just on my mind right just as 2:14:15.360 --> 2:14:19.240 a because I'm you know, I'm a nigga that that 2:14:19.480 --> 2:14:22.640 understands what it is to have lifetime problems with niggas. 2:14:22.680 --> 2:14:24.720 It's just certain niggas that I can never fix it 2:14:24.840 --> 2:14:28.400 with But from my perspective, I was like, you know, 2:14:28.480 --> 2:14:32.040 it's this something that could be, you know, rectified. And 2:14:32.160 --> 2:14:34.880 I sent them a text and I expressed him how 2:14:34.960 --> 2:14:38.080 I felt, and at the same time, I was just like, yo, 2:14:38.200 --> 2:14:41.400 if if I'm if I'm stepping over boundaries just to 2:14:41.520 --> 2:14:43.800 understand that this is as a brother, this is just 2:14:43.880 --> 2:14:47.720 how I feel like, right, And you know, I'm just 2:14:47.800 --> 2:14:50.440 basically like, yo, you know, this is something that I 2:14:50.480 --> 2:14:53.320 feel like will look better if we all kind of 2:14:54.120 --> 2:14:58.240 embrace them, you know, a different level of maturity, you 2:14:58.280 --> 2:15:02.360 know what I'm saying. But he he let me know, like, Yo, 2:15:03.960 --> 2:15:06.680 I respect where you're coming from, and I love you 2:15:06.760 --> 2:15:09.880 my niggas the brother, but this is something else for me, 2:15:10.560 --> 2:15:11.720 and I gotta respect that. 2:15:12.400 --> 2:15:14.680 Because there was rumors at one point when Max came 2:15:14.760 --> 2:15:18.560 home that there was going to be an interview with 2:15:18.760 --> 2:15:23.040 Max and Jim right, just them too, I believe on 2:15:23.240 --> 2:15:26.760 Jim's show artists Right. I never heard that's a rumor. 2:15:26.880 --> 2:15:29.560 I heard a couple of camera guys that I know. 2:15:29.840 --> 2:15:31.600 I think that that would be dope. I think that 2:15:31.760 --> 2:15:36.480 would I think that that would be and they don't 2:15:36.480 --> 2:15:37.240 need nobody else. 2:15:37.920 --> 2:15:39.480 You see what I'm saying because I know Max, I 2:15:39.560 --> 2:15:42.680 had I have a relationship with Max, Max before I 2:15:42.760 --> 2:15:43.440 actually knew I. 2:15:43.520 --> 2:15:45.440 Actually I actually knew Max. 2:15:45.840 --> 2:15:47.080 Because I seen him shot you out. 2:15:47.720 --> 2:15:50.920 It was like I knew Max when he first came home. 2:15:51.320 --> 2:15:53.800 Right when he first came home. He used to come 2:15:53.840 --> 2:15:55.760 to Brooklyn, used to come, you know, my man GQ 2:15:56.120 --> 2:15:58.640 Beach Studio the first time, not that first time, right, 2:15:58.960 --> 2:16:00.440 So what happened was he was I'm a home. He 2:16:00.520 --> 2:16:02.920 was coming to Brooklyn. You know, one of my homies 2:16:03.040 --> 2:16:06.880 had knew him from prison. One of my homies, he 2:16:07.080 --> 2:16:11.800 had knew him from prison. I knew Max brother, you know, 2:16:12.080 --> 2:16:14.000 Mike Murder. We was in the full building together and 2:16:14.120 --> 2:16:18.000 Kasaki and all that together. Right when Max came home, 2:16:18.040 --> 2:16:19.680 my man was like, Yo, my little man just came home. 2:16:19.760 --> 2:16:21.680 He nice and named Max being all he from Harlem. 2:16:22.120 --> 2:16:25.440 So Max used to actually come from Harlem to Brooklyn 2:16:25.720 --> 2:16:28.160 to record through the studio that we was all working in. 2:16:28.480 --> 2:16:29.320 You see what I'm saying. 2:16:29.640 --> 2:16:31.560 He used to scream, hustle hard and all that like, 2:16:31.640 --> 2:16:36.160 you know, but their relationship was more defined and I 2:16:36.320 --> 2:16:43.560 was just meeting him. They had the relationship, so there 2:16:43.680 --> 2:16:48.959 was always respect between us right, But our relationship was never. 2:16:50.320 --> 2:16:51.120 In the space of. 2:16:52.640 --> 2:16:55.200 Me and a Jim Jones. It was it never got 2:16:55.240 --> 2:16:58.279 to that, you see what I'm saying, So me feeling 2:16:58.360 --> 2:17:00.960 how I felt as far as definitely don't have an 2:17:01.000 --> 2:17:03.760 issue with Max b I don't have that. No, No, 2:17:04.560 --> 2:17:07.000 I don't have no issue with him at all. But 2:17:07.560 --> 2:17:10.080 I was just saying that as a friend, and we 2:17:10.160 --> 2:17:13.920 talked about that earlier, and we getting money together, we 2:17:14.000 --> 2:17:18.240 got business together, our families know each other. I just 2:17:18.360 --> 2:17:22.279 wanted to respect that in that in that moment. 2:17:23.240 --> 2:17:28.600 Because sometimes you know, us us both man living in 2:17:28.720 --> 2:17:34.640 this industry, sometimes there's real beef and then sometimes there's 2:17:34.720 --> 2:17:38.160 raped beef, and sometimes there's just like in between, right, 2:17:38.320 --> 2:17:44.360 Like we gotta like have those measures. When do you 2:17:44.440 --> 2:17:46.400 think a beef goes too far? I'm not talking about 2:17:46.440 --> 2:17:49.480 Jim and Max or Jim and Cam. I'm talking about 2:17:50.160 --> 2:17:55.600 for you when you think a line is drawn you've 2:17:55.640 --> 2:17:56.480 been you know what I mean. 2:17:57.720 --> 2:17:59.800 I feel like on certain things it said that we 2:18:00.080 --> 2:18:04.160 just can't take back. There's certain people that just could never. 2:18:05.920 --> 2:18:07.680 You know, without naming the people, can give me an 2:18:07.680 --> 2:18:10.280 example or what that looks like. You don't have to 2:18:10.360 --> 2:18:12.320 name it. People when when When? When? 2:18:12.680 --> 2:18:15.520 When you make me feel like when I see you 2:18:16.160 --> 2:18:18.400 on sight, Yeah I needed, I need to get with 2:18:18.600 --> 2:18:24.520 you then, you know, but you got to understand everything 2:18:24.560 --> 2:18:28.200 that happens on the inenternet. It's not made for for 2:18:28.600 --> 2:18:33.400 for a violent outcome. Like I ran into Trive. 2:18:36.040 --> 2:18:37.640 He was at a fight. I was at the fight. 2:18:38.320 --> 2:18:41.000 I've seen him at his baby in his hand. Vegas, right, Vegas. 2:18:41.760 --> 2:18:44.959 Did you see the footage? I didn't want no smoke. 2:18:46.360 --> 2:18:46.800 That's real. 2:18:46.879 --> 2:18:53.640 I don't want no smoke, that's real. And we got 2:18:53.760 --> 2:18:56.680 to understand what real beef is and what like having 2:18:56.720 --> 2:18:59.920 a discrepancy is. Me and him had a what I 2:19:00.120 --> 2:19:03.520 felt like as a discrepancy. I'm not looking for you, 2:19:03.640 --> 2:19:08.480 my nigga. In fact, I don't even I'm trying to 2:19:08.760 --> 2:19:13.080 find a way to say this without feeling like it's disrespectful. 2:19:13.920 --> 2:19:15.880 If I'm beefing with a nigga and I see how 2:19:15.920 --> 2:19:18.400 far he willing to take it, I don't want no 2:19:18.560 --> 2:19:23.879 smoke with him. If I'm beefing with a nigga, any nigga, 2:19:24.160 --> 2:19:26.000 and I understand that he's willing to get on the 2:19:26.080 --> 2:19:30.080 stand and point on a nigga and demonstrate on a nigga. 2:19:31.440 --> 2:19:34.800 He's a stronger man than me. I don't want to 2:19:34.800 --> 2:19:39.000 smoke with him, because where we come from, if we 2:19:39.120 --> 2:19:42.520 call a nigga rat, either we're gonna do what we 2:19:42.600 --> 2:19:45.119 can only do two things with him. Either you want 2:19:45.160 --> 2:19:47.080 to do something about him, or you gonna leave him alone. 2:19:47.840 --> 2:19:51.560 So in that instance, I don't want no smoke with you. Brother, 2:19:52.400 --> 2:19:55.440 Live your life. You got a beautiful family, Do your thing. 2:20:00.760 --> 2:20:04.600 What soney going in? Let me be devil's advocate a 2:20:04.640 --> 2:20:09.240 little bit about gun situation? 2:20:10.200 --> 2:20:10.760 What about it? 2:20:13.040 --> 2:20:18.320 Do you think that was like crossing the line when 2:20:18.360 --> 2:20:20.240 he wouldn't understand and said, oh. 2:20:20.360 --> 2:20:26.200 Yeah, I think Gunna, I think Gonna and I don't know, 2:20:28.280 --> 2:20:32.959 but I think Gonna actually felt like he was tricked. 2:20:33.760 --> 2:20:36.920 I think he was told. I think he was told, Hey, 2:20:37.120 --> 2:20:39.880 this is not writing. You're not telling on nobody. 2:20:40.040 --> 2:20:42.080 You just gotta admit to these things and they're gonna 2:20:42.120 --> 2:20:43.640 give you a plead and you're gonna, you know, go 2:20:43.760 --> 2:20:49.840 home your family. I think that he thought that he 2:20:50.040 --> 2:20:52.200 was doing the right thing. I don't think that he 2:20:52.440 --> 2:20:55.840 had the intentions of telling him. That's what I think 2:20:55.879 --> 2:20:57.920 that he thought. I don't know, that's what I believe 2:21:00.360 --> 2:21:03.240 he didn't understand that what he was saying was in 2:21:04.320 --> 2:21:08.039 one hundred percent contradiction of what the defense is saying. 2:21:08.959 --> 2:21:11.600 We're saying we a rap label, were not a gang. 2:21:14.080 --> 2:21:17.320 You was told to say that it is a gang. 2:21:17.440 --> 2:21:20.200 The gang. Yeah, and that's you witness crime. And he 2:21:20.360 --> 2:21:21.560 was a part of it as well. Right. 2:21:22.520 --> 2:21:25.280 So that's the that's the that's the issue, that's the 2:21:25.480 --> 2:21:27.520 that's the way the line was on. But the thing is, 2:21:27.600 --> 2:21:34.280 this intent is very very very important when you come, 2:21:34.440 --> 2:21:36.959 when you when you understand what snitching. 2:21:36.640 --> 2:21:39.640 Is, explain that police. 2:21:40.600 --> 2:21:45.040 If I get caught with two or three guns and 2:21:45.200 --> 2:21:46.959 to get out of my sentence. 2:21:48.760 --> 2:21:52.200 Or to know, to get out of the prosecution's way, 2:21:53.560 --> 2:21:57.480 two three guns, I'll go and say, yo, nor ready 2:21:57.480 --> 2:21:57.680 did this? 2:21:57.879 --> 2:22:00.760 No the manster. 2:22:08.840 --> 2:22:15.520 If I intentionally understandably say yo, it was it was 2:22:15.760 --> 2:22:18.320 it was the monster, not no, but monster that did 2:22:18.400 --> 2:22:21.560 it right, that did whatever. Because I'm trying to get 2:22:21.600 --> 2:22:22.800 out of what. 2:22:23.040 --> 2:22:23.480 Happened to me. 2:22:23.520 --> 2:22:25.480 I got caught with two or three guns, Like, I'm 2:22:25.520 --> 2:22:28.000 trying to get out of that. So I don't want 2:22:28.040 --> 2:22:30.360 to I don't want to deal with that. I don't 2:22:30.400 --> 2:22:32.960 want what comes with that. So I'm trying to find 2:22:32.959 --> 2:22:35.520 an easy way out, so that intent is possible, that 2:22:35.720 --> 2:22:38.080 intent is what it is. So in the case with 2:22:38.440 --> 2:22:40.920 with with a gunner, I don't know if his intent 2:22:41.120 --> 2:22:43.880 was the same. You see what I'm saying. Sometimes you 2:22:43.920 --> 2:22:55.600 fall like if a nigga, if if if somebody, if 2:22:55.680 --> 2:23:03.480 somebody did something and that she was around, and the 2:23:03.600 --> 2:23:06.879 police ask you, yo, who was there? You said, yeah, 2:23:06.879 --> 2:23:08.360 it was it was it was me and Monster, we 2:23:08.440 --> 2:23:15.800 were together. They used that to incriminate, incriminate the other person. 2:23:18.200 --> 2:23:22.360 Are you really telling I wasn't intent? You could be 2:23:22.440 --> 2:23:24.440 like I wasn't intended to telling them. They just asked 2:23:24.520 --> 2:23:26.120 me who was there, and then I was saying that 2:23:26.280 --> 2:23:27.040 it was me and Monster. 2:23:27.440 --> 2:23:28.160 You see what I'm saying. 2:23:29.320 --> 2:23:37.200 So intent, intent is intent. It's definitely important do do 2:23:37.600 --> 2:23:39.600 do the streets understanding st Nah. 2:23:39.520 --> 2:23:40.720 It's hard to even figure that out. 2:23:41.160 --> 2:23:42.199 People don't understand intent. 2:23:42.600 --> 2:23:44.600 People understanding say. I think it's once you get to 2:23:44.640 --> 2:23:46.640 a level of maturity, you understand in sent because they 2:23:46.840 --> 2:23:48.640 you know, the thing is, you ain't We ain't supposed 2:23:48.640 --> 2:23:51.480 to be talking regardless, It always won't come back to 2:23:51.520 --> 2:23:53.480 that niggas, you ain't supposed to be saying nothing. So 2:23:54.320 --> 2:23:56.360 there's no room for no slip ups. When you ain't, 2:23:56.480 --> 2:23:59.840 you don't say nothing, you know. But in his case, 2:24:00.040 --> 2:24:02.120 I just think that I don't know if he was 2:24:02.240 --> 2:24:05.600 intended on doing that. It came out bad and then 2:24:05.640 --> 2:24:08.520 we heard what Doug had to say about it, and 2:24:08.600 --> 2:24:09.320 it is what it is. 2:24:09.440 --> 2:24:11.960 I guess that feels kind of like I want to 2:24:12.040 --> 2:24:13.840 I want to ask you too, because now we also 2:24:13.920 --> 2:24:17.040 have footage of young Thug. They say, hey, we don't know, 2:24:17.280 --> 2:24:18.680 it's not it. 2:24:18.800 --> 2:24:19.920 Nobody don't think nobody said that. 2:24:20.120 --> 2:24:23.800 Oh I thought someone just said nobody said that. Note Okay, 2:24:23.840 --> 2:24:30.760 well she's not nobody. Nobody said right so about him 2:24:30.760 --> 2:24:31.320 in the precinct. 2:24:31.400 --> 2:24:35.959 In the precinct, so people. But what people are saying 2:24:36.120 --> 2:24:37.960 is that like he was throwing the police off. 2:24:38.360 --> 2:24:40.960 I think I and again, like I just said, I 2:24:41.040 --> 2:24:46.360 felt like, yeah, I felt like Gunner felt like he 2:24:46.600 --> 2:24:50.680 was he was tricked into that. On the flip side, 2:24:50.720 --> 2:24:54.080 I feel like Thug thought that he was finessing mm hmm. 2:24:55.840 --> 2:24:59.119 I feel like he thought that he was in there, 2:25:01.760 --> 2:25:03.640 yeah shanty, give me your number, man, like you know, 2:25:03.720 --> 2:25:05.160 I mean, you want to know something Like I felt 2:25:05.200 --> 2:25:06.920 like that was what his mentality was. 2:25:07.480 --> 2:25:07.760 I don't. 2:25:07.879 --> 2:25:08.200 I don't. 2:25:08.879 --> 2:25:11.200 I don't know. I could be wrong, but I think 2:25:11.280 --> 2:25:13.520 that looking at what he was saying, and looking at 2:25:13.600 --> 2:25:15.760 what he said after that, and on what was going on, 2:25:16.480 --> 2:25:20.360 and the fact that he didn't actually specifically tell on somebody, 2:25:22.560 --> 2:25:23.520 I think that he thought that. 2:25:23.600 --> 2:25:24.720 He had to answers. 2:25:25.200 --> 2:25:28.800 But the issue is this, though, ain't no finessing the 2:25:28.840 --> 2:25:32.360 police man, don't finessing the law. We think we could 2:25:32.400 --> 2:25:35.840 do that, it's always going to come back and bite us. 2:25:37.280 --> 2:25:37.760 Every time. 2:25:38.520 --> 2:25:46.320 M years ago, right, there was something that was said, 2:25:46.400 --> 2:25:48.800 probably about all of us, and we were like, we 2:25:48.879 --> 2:25:51.040 were trying to explain to people, like the rap game 2:25:51.720 --> 2:25:55.680 might be the most dangerous job on the planet, right, 2:25:57.320 --> 2:25:59.360 And I'm not there's no disrespect to like, you know, 2:25:59.520 --> 2:26:03.840 military workers or whatever. But most of the time we 2:26:03.879 --> 2:26:05.080 don't know how our enemies look. 2:26:05.640 --> 2:26:07.920 No, because more people know who you are than you 2:26:08.000 --> 2:26:11.359 know them, than you had a disadvantage, you understand. 2:26:11.840 --> 2:26:15.560 Do you feel do you feel like like rapping is 2:26:15.560 --> 2:26:18.680 one of the most dangerous jobs? Yes, to listen. 2:26:19.440 --> 2:26:21.480 I talked about being in the dating room, looking at you, 2:26:22.840 --> 2:26:26.039 looking at Cam, looking at Hove, looking at all these 2:26:26.160 --> 2:26:28.440 artists coming out of the city and saying, damn, I 2:26:28.560 --> 2:26:31.000 want to do that, because what it looked like for 2:26:31.160 --> 2:26:33.280 me was that rap was a way out. I'm coming 2:26:33.320 --> 2:26:35.760 from violence, I'm coming from the street, I'm coming from prison, 2:26:35.840 --> 2:26:41.200 I'm coming from having a plethora of enemies. I want 2:26:41.240 --> 2:26:43.600 to get out of this. I'm thinking, soon as I 2:26:43.640 --> 2:26:48.600 get into the rap game, we made it. Nah, I 2:26:48.720 --> 2:26:54.520 thought wrong. In fact, getting into the game kind of 2:26:54.560 --> 2:26:59.120 intensifies that. It kind of magnifies that in a negative way, 2:26:59.160 --> 2:27:05.560 because now you more of a a target, you more 2:27:05.640 --> 2:27:09.800 of a symbol of hope that sometimes people just can't 2:27:10.520 --> 2:27:12.800 get out their own way, so they hate you more. Mark, 2:27:15.920 --> 2:27:17.800 fuck all these rappers is dying. I ain't think you 2:27:17.840 --> 2:27:21.040 could die once you become a rapper. I thought that 2:27:21.200 --> 2:27:24.800 insulated you. This is what I listen, good point me 2:27:25.400 --> 2:27:37.840 nineteen ninety seven somewhere War Report, whole nas listening this shit. 2:27:37.879 --> 2:27:41.160 I'm thinking, this is why I want to do this, right, 2:27:42.120 --> 2:27:46.680 because this is gonna allow me to escape this shit. 2:27:47.400 --> 2:27:47.560 Right. 2:27:48.920 --> 2:27:52.680 We never thought that niggas was really gonna be dying 2:27:52.800 --> 2:27:55.840 and all this, like like yeah, it turned into something. 2:27:55.680 --> 2:27:58.560 Totally different, Like I didn't think rapids could die. 2:27:59.480 --> 2:28:01.240 You know, it was crazy. I remember at the time. 2:28:01.320 --> 2:28:04.040 I used to Uh, if if I ever got pulled 2:28:04.080 --> 2:28:06.160 over and I said I was a rapper, like the 2:28:06.240 --> 2:28:09.320 police would just let me go. Like right now, pulled over, 2:28:09.360 --> 2:28:11.000 I want to say I'm a drug dealer, like I 2:28:11.520 --> 2:28:15.240 say I'm a rapper, like it worse, like like you 2:28:15.280 --> 2:28:18.040 got to say you're an American citizens all right, but 2:28:18.080 --> 2:28:18.720 I'm not playing. 2:28:22.840 --> 2:28:25.240 Being a rapper is not special no more. It's not 2:28:26.280 --> 2:28:26.640 it's not. 2:28:28.640 --> 2:28:30.080 Famous is not special no more. 2:28:30.760 --> 2:28:35.080 Being famous can still have depending on your level of fame. 2:28:35.320 --> 2:28:43.920 Is this you Yeah, you ain't checking me out? Famous man? 2:28:45.280 --> 2:28:52.879 Fa So that was bad funny. It's in CBS right now, 2:28:53.280 --> 2:28:57.440 go up there, pure oh boxes right now about to 2:28:57.480 --> 2:28:59.800 go buy available And. 2:29:01.440 --> 2:29:02.599 Being a rapper. 2:29:04.480 --> 2:29:05.279 It's not as. 2:29:07.200 --> 2:29:11.760 Prestigious especial as it used to be because being a 2:29:11.840 --> 2:29:14.560 rapper felt like there was a rights to passage. 2:29:14.600 --> 2:29:17.200 It was like there was a level of getting it. 2:29:17.320 --> 2:29:21.039 Only the best had record deals, and only the best 2:29:21.240 --> 2:29:23.520 was on B T and m t V, only only 2:29:24.320 --> 2:29:25.560 those special ones. 2:29:25.720 --> 2:29:27.080 Now it's like everybody could be it. 2:29:28.080 --> 2:29:30.879 You don't think that your own house, You don't think 2:29:30.920 --> 2:29:32.360 that's the magic word the best. 2:29:32.920 --> 2:29:33.560 I feel like the. 2:29:33.600 --> 2:29:36.039 Best has dwindled. Down to you don't have to be good. 2:29:36.080 --> 2:29:37.000 It don't have to be anything. 2:29:37.360 --> 2:29:42.560 Because the technology has allowed us to allow anybody to 2:29:42.600 --> 2:29:45.560 be a rapper or be an artist. So it's like, okay, 2:29:47.080 --> 2:29:51.480 pro tools. We could set pro tools up anywhere, bathroom, hotel, 2:29:51.760 --> 2:29:53.200 bus car, anywhere. 2:29:53.879 --> 2:29:56.760 We could set up pro tools or loops. 2:29:57.920 --> 2:30:01.440 All that. You could a whole recording on your phone 2:30:01.480 --> 2:30:01.720 right now. 2:30:02.120 --> 2:30:05.279 Anywhere you can record right because the technology allowed. 2:30:05.040 --> 2:30:08.720 Us to do that. Mad a whole hit from from prison. 2:30:08.959 --> 2:30:13.240 So now because of that, anybody can just be an artist. 2:30:13.560 --> 2:30:16.160 That's music is the only sport where you could just 2:30:16.320 --> 2:30:19.920 be it. You gotta go to school to be a lawyer, 2:30:20.320 --> 2:30:25.400 that's real. You gotta go through training in amateurs to 2:30:25.480 --> 2:30:28.879 be a professional boxer. You can't just be a professional 2:30:29.000 --> 2:30:32.520 fucking baseball player, basketball players. You can't just be it music. 2:30:32.600 --> 2:30:33.879 You could just be it rap up. 2:30:33.920 --> 2:30:36.000 You can just be it music and rapper. But I 2:30:36.080 --> 2:30:39.440 think we should be different than hip hop. Maybe that's 2:30:39.480 --> 2:30:40.000 not even. 2:30:39.879 --> 2:30:43.800 Me that though, because anybody can just do it, it 2:30:44.400 --> 2:30:48.560 doesn't matter. You know how many girls I've seen that 2:30:50.000 --> 2:30:54.600 started to garner a certain level of Instagram notoriety turn 2:30:54.640 --> 2:30:58.480 around to say to me, I'm gonna make a record 2:30:58.959 --> 2:31:01.760 because it's like the rap still comes with a certain 2:31:01.840 --> 2:31:05.640 level of coolness, right and you I'm like, yo, you 2:31:05.800 --> 2:31:07.080 just it don't work like that. 2:31:07.240 --> 2:31:09.199 You just like it's it's. 2:31:09.120 --> 2:31:11.760 Dudes, you gotta pay. It's a standard that you gotta 2:31:11.840 --> 2:31:13.160 sit on top of. 2:31:13.680 --> 2:31:14.680 But no, you don't. 2:31:15.720 --> 2:31:19.120 You don't have to reach a certain level of a standard. 2:31:19.200 --> 2:31:22.039 You don't have to reach a certain level of capability. 2:31:22.160 --> 2:31:24.840 You don't have to get to these places, you know, 2:31:25.080 --> 2:31:26.280 because before it was like if. 2:31:26.200 --> 2:31:29.360 You get a record a record deal, you don't need 2:31:29.400 --> 2:31:32.640 a record deal. You get a major record deal, you 2:31:32.840 --> 2:31:33.720 was like looked. 2:31:33.520 --> 2:31:36.640 At as Wow, this niggas signed a Sony, he signed 2:31:36.680 --> 2:31:42.080 a death Cham, he signed to automatic automatically just by 2:31:42.240 --> 2:31:44.120 having that, because that shows you could have been the 2:31:44.160 --> 2:31:46.680 wagoned person in the world. You gotta deal that makes 2:31:46.720 --> 2:31:52.320 you automatically. You gotta be something for somebody to do that. 2:31:53.080 --> 2:31:53.800 Now it's not that. 2:31:55.520 --> 2:31:59.400 Anybody can do it anybody. So because it's now it's like, 2:31:59.480 --> 2:32:00.240 I don't even want to be. 2:32:00.280 --> 2:32:02.039 Called a rapper. It's like, don't call it. Like it's 2:32:02.120 --> 2:32:03.680 just disposable music. 2:32:04.480 --> 2:32:09.240 It's all watered down. If anything, the labels don't feel 2:32:09.280 --> 2:32:14.920 the same. The listener is not the same. The genre, 2:32:15.200 --> 2:32:18.520 the energy, the culture is not the same. Rights it's 2:32:18.720 --> 2:32:22.760 just not special. It's just like everybody is a rapper. Now, 2:32:23.560 --> 2:32:26.279 how many times we've been somewhere, We've been some places 2:32:26.800 --> 2:32:28.480 and you're like, yo, you know who that is? Like, no, 2:32:28.520 --> 2:32:29.760 I don't know who the fuck that is, but that's 2:32:29.800 --> 2:32:32.040 such and such here a rapper. 2:32:33.400 --> 2:32:35.480 But we shouldn't accept them as rappers. What I'm saying like, 2:32:35.959 --> 2:32:38.400 everybody can't be a rapper. They can all be rappers, 2:32:38.560 --> 2:32:39.760 but should not be accepted. 2:32:39.920 --> 2:32:42.240 What's the standard? What's the measurement? 2:32:42.920 --> 2:32:46.200 And the same thing with DJs. There's a lot of 2:32:46.320 --> 2:32:49.760 DJs DJ them. 2:32:50.120 --> 2:32:52.360 Well, I think what Nads and Master Pill is doing 2:32:52.480 --> 2:32:53.200 is super love. 2:32:53.240 --> 2:32:55.160 What they're doing to pay homage to. 2:32:55.400 --> 2:32:57.160 The culture of it understood. 2:32:57.200 --> 2:32:59.400 So, but but that's they they can't and it also 2:32:59.480 --> 2:33:00.240 makes business sense. 2:33:00.600 --> 2:33:03.080 Well it does make business because we're all being nostalgic 2:33:03.160 --> 2:33:05.000 saying that ship was dope back then. This is why 2:33:05.040 --> 2:33:05.560 we like it now. 2:33:06.400 --> 2:33:07.680 You building fan base. 2:33:08.040 --> 2:33:10.920 I'm sorry when you say that they we shouldn't accept 2:33:10.959 --> 2:33:11.560 them as rappers. 2:33:11.600 --> 2:33:16.040 So what's the standard? I mean, you're asking me to 2:33:16.120 --> 2:33:18.600 make the standard yes, what's the standard? At least they 2:33:18.640 --> 2:33:24.400 make a sentence that rhymes. It's many people that can 2:33:24.440 --> 2:33:24.840 make a sense. 2:33:24.879 --> 2:33:26.600 I mean, I'm not saying be the standard, because that's 2:33:26.640 --> 2:33:27.840 that's the bar's loading. 2:33:28.320 --> 2:33:31.760 Like listen, let's talk about m seeing his historically, Like, 2:33:31.840 --> 2:33:32.480 let's go back to the. 2:33:32.520 --> 2:33:34.959 Cold crush and how it keeps going up. That's too far. 2:33:35.160 --> 2:33:36.760 No, No, I'm gonna bring you up. 2:33:36.760 --> 2:33:37.760 I'm gonna bring you up to day. 2:33:38.080 --> 2:33:40.520 Let's go ice cube, Let's go n W, let's go 2:33:40.720 --> 2:33:43.600 public enemy, let's go nas. As it keeps going up, 2:33:43.640 --> 2:33:46.960 it gets more lyrical, more intelligent. How the fuck does 2:33:47.040 --> 2:33:49.960 it go down this way? How do we go from 2:33:50.040 --> 2:33:53.440 down here up here and then slope down? That doesn't 2:33:53.440 --> 2:33:59.480 make sense, man, But listen, that's so I'm not so 2:34:00.080 --> 2:34:07.160 skin you this though, because any person with you know, 2:34:08.360 --> 2:34:10.240 mind and bodies should be able to be able to 2:34:11.800 --> 2:34:15.040 to make a sense is rhyme R What would be 2:34:15.360 --> 2:34:17.560 in your in your mind? What would be the standard 2:34:17.640 --> 2:34:20.320 that people would have to live up to to be 2:34:20.879 --> 2:34:22.120 to be able to say I'm a rapper? 2:34:23.080 --> 2:34:24.280 No MC or a rapper? 2:34:25.360 --> 2:34:27.440 Well, no, to be an MC is one thing. 2:34:27.520 --> 2:34:29.119 To be a rapper. Anybody could be a rap. Anybody 2:34:29.160 --> 2:34:29.720 could be a rapper. 2:34:30.120 --> 2:34:32.400 Anybody could be a rapper. To be MC down, to 2:34:32.520 --> 2:34:35.039 be an MC, you have to be prolific in your lyrics. 2:34:35.520 --> 2:34:37.080 It has to rhyme, it has to make sense. 2:34:37.200 --> 2:34:39.400 But who's at the gate making sure that there is 2:34:39.480 --> 2:34:39.800 no gate? 2:34:39.840 --> 2:34:41.240 So the audience needs to be the gate. 2:34:41.480 --> 2:34:43.240 It's not gonna work that. No, that's the one that 2:34:43.280 --> 2:34:45.480 the honest don't care. No, but that's the audience is 2:34:45.560 --> 2:34:46.160 one a good time. 2:34:46.240 --> 2:34:48.680 When the when the audience stops carrying, it's not just 2:34:48.760 --> 2:34:49.680 the audience's fault. 2:34:50.040 --> 2:34:53.000 It means it is the audience's fault because people party. 2:34:53.080 --> 2:34:54.680 People like the party, and they at the club and 2:34:54.840 --> 2:34:56.840 understanding the textures of music and if a nigga is 2:34:56.920 --> 2:35:00.920 like cat rat, that that that and if it sound good. 2:35:01.160 --> 2:35:03.840 And it's a vibe and it's a bounce. Wait, we're 2:35:03.840 --> 2:35:05.080 going with it, but let's go back. 2:35:08.240 --> 2:35:10.880 Let's go back to what you said the best lyrics. Wow, 2:35:15.080 --> 2:35:15.720 this on one second? 2:35:16.320 --> 2:35:19.680 One second, I'm I'm bathroom. I want to use the bathroom. 2:35:21.160 --> 2:35:26.800 Right after we got the de conversation, Damn, right now, 2:35:28.959 --> 2:35:30.640 I was ready to go with the big club on you. 2:35:31.480 --> 2:35:32.959 In my life, I like the do. 2:35:34.520 --> 2:35:36.920 No, we were trying to talk about the standard, the standard. 2:35:37.000 --> 2:35:38.520 Yeah yeah, yeah, So what would be the. 2:35:38.600 --> 2:35:44.520 Standard of of the MC like because the general pub 2:35:44.720 --> 2:35:51.120 the general public, the general public doesn't have that standard, right, 2:35:52.360 --> 2:35:56.440 the average person is just looking for something that that 2:35:56.560 --> 2:35:58.600 makes them feel like they're having a good time, especially 2:35:58.640 --> 2:35:59.720 when you were talking about clubs. 2:36:00.080 --> 2:36:02.040 So my point with the general public not having the 2:36:02.080 --> 2:36:06.080 standard was this, you yourself remembered, you said the label 2:36:06.560 --> 2:36:09.440 when you got signed, the label needed to put all 2:36:09.520 --> 2:36:12.480 this money to make this record a hit and do 2:36:12.520 --> 2:36:16.000 all this stuff. We all could agree. The record label 2:36:16.160 --> 2:36:18.560 doesn't give a fuck about hip hop. They give a 2:36:18.600 --> 2:36:23.520 fuck about profit, so they will make hits that doesn't 2:36:23.560 --> 2:36:28.240 necessarily benefit hip hop, benefits their pockets, benefits the corporate structure. 2:36:28.879 --> 2:36:31.640 So the hits that they're gonna keep pushing are not 2:36:31.760 --> 2:36:35.720 going to be beneficial to hip hop growing, being smarter, 2:36:36.360 --> 2:36:39.720 be more prolific, be more social. So they're gonna just 2:36:39.840 --> 2:36:43.880 keep pushing these hit records with all this money that 2:36:44.000 --> 2:36:48.680 eventually the whole audience today after the fact, they don't 2:36:48.680 --> 2:36:49.160 give a fuck. 2:36:49.200 --> 2:36:50.119 They don't give a fuck. 2:36:49.920 --> 2:36:54.360 About MC's rappers, hip hop, the elements of hip hop. 2:36:54.520 --> 2:36:56.120 It's all that doesn't solve them. 2:36:56.520 --> 2:36:59.240 It's just a music. Give me a fucking hit record. 2:36:59.320 --> 2:37:01.200 I don't give a fuck. There's one leg up, two legs, 2:37:01.280 --> 2:37:03.680 one of my ears in my face, I'm this, I'm that. 2:37:03.800 --> 2:37:05.360 They don't give a fuck what it is. Just give 2:37:05.400 --> 2:37:08.720 me a catchy tune and then the idea of hip 2:37:08.760 --> 2:37:10.000 hop that we all grew up on. 2:37:11.000 --> 2:37:12.200 That's it. I agree with that. 2:37:13.040 --> 2:37:13.400 I agree. 2:37:13.440 --> 2:37:18.720 I agree with the fact that nobody really cares, right, 2:37:18.800 --> 2:37:22.520 and I think that's the problem. So so basically so 2:37:23.720 --> 2:37:27.160 that can't change, then I think it can That's what 2:37:27.160 --> 2:37:27.520 I'm trying. 2:37:28.520 --> 2:37:29.800 I think it can't change. 2:37:29.520 --> 2:37:32.240 Because no one cares, because I think hip hop. 2:37:32.240 --> 2:37:35.320 Is still a unified group of people, even though we 2:37:35.440 --> 2:37:39.080 might have different intentions, different ideas, we all still identify 2:37:39.240 --> 2:37:40.360 under the banner of hip hop. 2:37:41.120 --> 2:37:43.400 But once it became corporate, it was out of our hands. 2:37:43.480 --> 2:37:45.840 But right now we've unders we've all understand that, well, 2:37:45.879 --> 2:37:48.040 we believe corporate is kind of out of well, the 2:37:48.080 --> 2:37:51.920 major labels, corporate is still the social media companies are corporate. 2:37:52.000 --> 2:37:52.960 That's still another record. 2:37:53.200 --> 2:37:56.800 What happened with ninety seven right now, Well, they're saying 2:37:56.840 --> 2:38:00.680 that it's visually the capitalist that's running that whole civil. 2:38:01.080 --> 2:38:03.960 Capitalism runs everything we do. Absolutely we are capital the 2:38:04.040 --> 2:38:05.600 thing I'm not mad at being a capitalist. 2:38:05.720 --> 2:38:09.200 I'm not mad at that neither. But I don't think 2:38:10.879 --> 2:38:15.360 it can change back. We're not right raw, hip hop 2:38:15.720 --> 2:38:18.240 raw not the roan. You can never go because just 2:38:18.320 --> 2:38:20.120 as the idea of the time frame that it was in, 2:38:20.400 --> 2:38:24.000 just just just that standard of what what we felt 2:38:24.080 --> 2:38:26.040 like hip hop was. I don't feel like it could 2:38:26.120 --> 2:38:28.320 change back to that though, you know what I'm saying. 2:38:28.640 --> 2:38:31.040 I don't think that it could change back to what 2:38:31.200 --> 2:38:31.720 it used to be. 2:38:32.040 --> 2:38:33.879 I don't think it could change back. But I don't 2:38:33.920 --> 2:38:36.320 think we have to say because it can't change back, 2:38:36.440 --> 2:38:37.160 we can't. 2:38:37.600 --> 2:38:40.160 Keep the essence there. But who's gonna keep it? 2:38:41.080 --> 2:38:44.000 We right here in drink Champs alone are trying to 2:38:44.040 --> 2:38:45.000 keep the hip. 2:38:46.040 --> 2:38:51.000 What shot that your shot that drink keeping the essence alive? 2:38:54.040 --> 2:38:57.480 But do you do you do understand that two thirty 2:38:57.600 --> 2:38:59.840 three in the morning in a club in any various 2:39:00.160 --> 2:39:07.600 the of of of of your choice, right, alcohol, drugs, music, 2:39:07.800 --> 2:39:14.520 absolutely from Yeah, nobody's thinking about keeping the essence of 2:39:14.600 --> 2:39:14.920 hip hop. 2:39:14.959 --> 2:39:16.720 But you know I'm saying that you do understand that 2:39:17.680 --> 2:39:19.720 not everybody lives at two thirty in the morning on 2:39:19.800 --> 2:39:22.600 drugs and alcohol in a constantly American you know what. 2:39:24.720 --> 2:39:26.960 You know what, sometimes we forget that. 2:39:27.879 --> 2:39:31.320 Sometimes I ain't gonna lie. That's the one thing. Uh, 2:39:31.480 --> 2:39:32.960 thank you for pointing that. That's the one thing I 2:39:33.040 --> 2:39:36.240 love about Ogzo. Like when you see Kine if you 2:39:36.360 --> 2:39:39.400 follow Caine the other day, yo, yo, Kine stays on 2:39:39.520 --> 2:39:43.480 the road. Yes, when I see that ship, I see like, 2:39:43.600 --> 2:39:47.400 you know, Jasey Jabb all these people staying on the 2:39:47.520 --> 2:39:49.959 road and it's like, yo, you know he's. 2:39:49.840 --> 2:39:53.240 Just judge Jeff Kill crazy hood day like killed day. Yeah, 2:39:53.400 --> 2:39:54.160 he shut it down. 2:39:57.600 --> 2:39:59.600 You know, hip hop is the only genre of music 2:39:59.680 --> 2:40:02.080 that people kind of shame you for getting older. 2:40:02.080 --> 2:40:04.480 You're for getting older, Like why change that? 2:40:04.720 --> 2:40:09.080 And I think, yeah, that too, that's that's that's that 2:40:09.160 --> 2:40:11.560 should be a part of the agenda. 2:40:11.879 --> 2:40:17.600 And you can talk, you can be absolutely hundred isnine 2:40:17.640 --> 2:40:22.000 thousand years old. Come on, he's front, come on, yeah, 2:40:22.280 --> 2:40:24.400 he's yes, he's different. 2:40:25.400 --> 2:40:28.720 Is the only genre that you know, you get to 2:40:28.760 --> 2:40:32.400 your forties and plus then it's like, oh, you old nigga, 2:40:33.320 --> 2:40:34.880 you need a share and it's like it shouldn't be 2:40:34.959 --> 2:40:37.880 that because every other music you can it doesn't. 2:40:38.000 --> 2:40:39.320 It's no age. 2:40:40.879 --> 2:40:41.279 Ceiling. 2:40:42.080 --> 2:40:44.760 You can be whatever, right. 2:40:44.920 --> 2:40:48.120 Ozzy Osbourne went all the way to the death end 2:40:48.240 --> 2:40:57.560 told head fans torn passed to the death and as 2:40:57.600 --> 2:41:01.160 an artist, this is not a filical sport, right, you 2:41:01.240 --> 2:41:06.720 understand like your bad AnGR you know what I mean? 2:41:06.840 --> 2:41:08.240 You got bad physicals. 2:41:08.320 --> 2:41:10.040 We wanted to be right, but it's not. 2:41:10.240 --> 2:41:11.080 It's it's mental. 2:41:11.280 --> 2:41:15.800 Is insane clown posse. Maybe you gotta because you might be. 2:41:15.800 --> 2:41:18.400 Able to jump around on stage no more, but understanding 2:41:18.480 --> 2:41:19.879 that the music is still music. 2:41:19.720 --> 2:41:21.920 And cut you off. Did you see Kane do his 2:41:22.040 --> 2:41:22.680 last I saw that. 2:41:22.760 --> 2:41:26.400 I talked him about that, that whole footage though it's 2:41:26.440 --> 2:41:32.640 just resurface about that last another day you got me 2:41:33.959 --> 2:41:35.920 it's not up the first one. 2:41:35.920 --> 2:41:36.200 He said. 2:41:36.320 --> 2:41:36.879 The dude. 2:41:38.680 --> 2:41:42.440 Again, king man, we should be doing this ship. 2:41:42.480 --> 2:41:45.200 Put the rest off if you want to. So they 2:41:45.280 --> 2:41:46.360 got this thing where they say yo. 2:41:46.959 --> 2:41:48.440 So it's like they got this thing where they be 2:41:48.480 --> 2:41:52.160 like yo, these niggas are tenier citizens, right, and it's 2:41:52.240 --> 2:41:54.720 like y'all yeah, telling us. 2:41:56.120 --> 2:41:56.760 I never heard this. 2:41:57.040 --> 2:41:59.760 This is kind of hard teen year citizens. 2:42:01.120 --> 2:42:03.400 I started and started as like a I don't know 2:42:03.440 --> 2:42:07.160 I guess niggas was trying to like go at Jim 2:42:07.240 --> 2:42:09.879 Jones and say, oh, he's he's a he's a teenage citizen. 2:42:10.160 --> 2:42:13.560 He's the youngest o g. We know, like, I don't 2:42:13.600 --> 2:42:18.160 think nothing wrong with that, right, because age is about energy. 2:42:19.320 --> 2:42:23.240 We only hear one time, bro, that one time that 2:42:23.720 --> 2:42:25.680 we know of right, that we know off right that 2:42:25.840 --> 2:42:29.320 that that's what we know. Why not live to the 2:42:29.400 --> 2:42:31.800 fullest and you do what make you happy, my nigga, 2:42:32.360 --> 2:42:36.720 Like like, if if your perception is me is a 2:42:36.800 --> 2:42:39.200 teen citizen, then let me let me live my life 2:42:39.240 --> 2:42:40.680 the way I want to live it, my nigga, let 2:42:40.720 --> 2:42:42.680 me live my days the way I fucking want to 2:42:42.760 --> 2:42:42.920 do it. 2:42:43.240 --> 2:42:48.480 Because guess what, it's people that you know album. 2:42:50.879 --> 2:42:51.520 That's a good name. 2:42:51.600 --> 2:42:56.760 Though there's people that we both know and everybody here 2:42:56.879 --> 2:43:00.640 know that that didn't have the has to live the 2:43:00.640 --> 2:43:03.160 way they want to live right and do the things 2:43:03.200 --> 2:43:03.800 that they want to do. 2:43:04.520 --> 2:43:04.640 Right. 2:43:04.760 --> 2:43:09.600 We're still here with with with the blessings from lucky 2:43:10.440 --> 2:43:13.959 you know, from the universe like that were able to. 2:43:13.959 --> 2:43:14.520 Still be here. 2:43:14.640 --> 2:43:20.240 Like so if if if I want to still pull 2:43:20.320 --> 2:43:25.480 up to the club, if I got on sweatsuit and 2:43:25.600 --> 2:43:26.040 jews on. 2:43:26.400 --> 2:43:28.760 I'm not trying to be a little nigga. I'm not 2:43:28.840 --> 2:43:31.119 trying to be a lion. But I'm this hip hop. 2:43:31.200 --> 2:43:32.400 I'm standing you. 2:43:34.000 --> 2:43:36.800 You've always been being you'reerent. 2:43:38.040 --> 2:43:41.720 People set these invisible boundaries and these standards on you 2:43:42.120 --> 2:43:43.760 and say that when you get to a certain age 2:43:43.800 --> 2:43:46.880 that you should be dressing a certain way or doing 2:43:46.959 --> 2:43:48.920 a certain thing, or you should just automatically turn this 2:43:49.120 --> 2:43:49.480 old man. 2:43:50.080 --> 2:43:50.840 I don't believe in that. 2:43:51.840 --> 2:43:57.840 I don't believe why, like, should we stop wearing baseball hats, 2:43:59.080 --> 2:44:00.480 should we stop wearing tims? 2:44:00.640 --> 2:44:03.160 Hating on my hair? They'd be out there, I see you, 2:44:03.640 --> 2:44:04.480 they hate on your hair. 2:44:05.600 --> 2:44:07.240 The fact that, yeah I got that too. 2:44:07.840 --> 2:44:13.200 Definitely for your painting this ship right, definitely, little pain, 2:44:13.280 --> 2:44:14.840 little paint later. 2:44:14.879 --> 2:44:16.760 Yeah yeah, little. 2:44:17.800 --> 2:44:23.280 Seven. You know, but you know where he should he 2:44:23.320 --> 2:44:24.080 should be able. 2:44:23.920 --> 2:44:26.400 To do what the he wanted to do, exactly, bottom line, 2:44:27.320 --> 2:44:28.840 bottom line, he should be able to do what he 2:44:28.920 --> 2:44:29.280 wants to do. 2:44:29.400 --> 2:44:30.400 Take a sip for that, let's do it. 2:44:30.720 --> 2:44:36.080 Definitely, I didn't. I didn't plan out to be this drunk. Yeah, 2:44:38.000 --> 2:44:42.400 we we planned out for you to be got. 2:44:43.320 --> 2:44:45.560 We've been through. I'm gonna just be honest with you, man. 2:44:45.879 --> 2:44:47.040 I'm very proud of you. Man. 2:44:47.080 --> 2:44:48.480 I appreciate you to do the thing. 2:44:48.560 --> 2:44:51.320 Continue to smile, man, absolutely especial when you get new 2:44:51.360 --> 2:44:52.120 tea paid. 2:44:52.480 --> 2:44:57.840 Damn. Yeah, we can tell let's got but but man, 2:44:57.959 --> 2:45:00.880 like you know everything you've been through, everything you and 2:45:01.720 --> 2:45:04.560 to be here and just to still be that guy 2:45:04.720 --> 2:45:07.120 man and still be holding it down and still be 2:45:07.200 --> 2:45:07.959 able to smile. 2:45:08.080 --> 2:45:10.119 You know what I'm saying. Because I'm gonna tell you something. 2:45:10.160 --> 2:45:14.640 As a person I lived in every form of rap game. 2:45:15.680 --> 2:45:18.240 I know how hard this ship is. Like even when 2:45:18.280 --> 2:45:20.480 you even when we at the best of our best, 2:45:20.800 --> 2:45:23.520 that shit is still hard because we can't never it's 2:45:23.600 --> 2:45:25.840 not we can never turn it in our uniform. The 2:45:26.040 --> 2:45:27.080 uniform is twenty. 2:45:26.879 --> 2:45:28.440 Four hours because that's how people see you. 2:45:28.680 --> 2:45:29.600 That's how people see you. 2:45:29.760 --> 2:45:30.959 And you can never live that down. 2:45:31.040 --> 2:45:33.360 You could never live that down. So you know, to 2:45:34.360 --> 2:45:37.960 to continue to be successful, continue to be out there, 2:45:38.040 --> 2:45:40.720 continue to smile, continue to work, continue to do that. 2:45:40.840 --> 2:45:42.160 Like I just want to let you know, like we 2:45:42.480 --> 2:45:44.840 admire you, we respect you, and we want That's why 2:45:44.879 --> 2:45:46.000 we wanted to give you a flowers. 2:45:46.160 --> 2:45:46.720 Appreciate that. 2:45:47.920 --> 2:45:53.320 I appreciate that, and especially and especially like being a 2:45:53.400 --> 2:45:55.440 street person. So like when I like kind of like 2:45:57.400 --> 2:46:00.520 to you know me, I was researching you and I 2:46:00.640 --> 2:46:03.039 kept going back like six years ago. See how many 2:46:03.160 --> 2:46:07.040 people were like baiting you, like I mean by baiting you. 2:46:07.360 --> 2:46:10.560 Was like they're like, yo, man, it's known for this this. 2:46:10.920 --> 2:46:13.160 So then what I did was I went and I 2:46:13.280 --> 2:46:22.200 pulled up ah you on like white people's shows, and 2:46:22.320 --> 2:46:25.840 I said this it's because it's like, all right, cool, 2:46:25.840 --> 2:46:28.880 I seen what what like MV like my man, I 2:46:28.959 --> 2:46:31.640 mean man, like certain like when I was watching your 2:46:31.720 --> 2:46:34.600 interviews that I watched black then I watched and I was, 2:46:34.680 --> 2:46:36.640 you know, I'm trying to you know, trying to be official, 2:46:36.640 --> 2:46:38.320 you know what I'm saying. But when I see you 2:46:38.879 --> 2:46:40.400 and I'm like, yo, you know how to do that? 2:46:41.000 --> 2:46:44.240 Think about this is your gift, my brother in just 2:46:44.280 --> 2:46:46.720 in case you don't know, you know how to move 2:46:46.800 --> 2:46:51.119 in difference audiences. You know how to move a different 2:46:51.200 --> 2:46:54.880 our gifts. Man, that's a real gift, bro. Like, don't 2:46:55.560 --> 2:46:58.880 don't downplay that, like, don't ever like acknowledge that. Like 2:46:59.120 --> 2:47:01.640 I was watching it you because I want to do 2:47:01.760 --> 2:47:04.280 my job. But I'm like I'm looking at it. I'm 2:47:04.360 --> 2:47:06.800 like that's not something that you have to teach that 2:47:06.879 --> 2:47:07.520 to yourself. 2:47:07.800 --> 2:47:11.600 Right, That comes from Yeah, my bad, that's a false 2:47:12.879 --> 2:47:14.680 sense of of of learning. 2:47:15.280 --> 2:47:15.400 Right. 2:47:15.920 --> 2:47:20.800 So it's like, I adapt to every room that I'm in, right, 2:47:21.720 --> 2:47:23.040 no matter what room that I'm in. 2:47:24.280 --> 2:47:28.000 Prison allowed us the time to like read things, study things, 2:47:28.040 --> 2:47:30.440 and stff like that. So it's like, if I'm in 2:47:30.480 --> 2:47:33.760 a peaceful room, I'm peaceful. If I'm in a room 2:47:33.840 --> 2:47:38.119 on some bullshit, then I'm with that too. If I'm 2:47:38.200 --> 2:47:40.600 on a room that's that's. If I'm in a room 2:47:40.680 --> 2:47:44.000 that's about progression, then that's what we're talking about. 2:47:44.200 --> 2:47:44.880 That's what we're on. 2:47:46.760 --> 2:47:52.879 Adaptation, adaptation, right, Being able to adapt, that's the way 2:47:52.920 --> 2:47:57.480 you stay here. We ain't always gonna be hot. Niggas 2:47:57.520 --> 2:47:59.520 gonna be like, oh you washed up, you old nigga, 2:47:59.560 --> 2:48:03.279 You ain't who you used to be. But that don't 2:48:03.320 --> 2:48:06.040 define you. You still gotta you still got to be 2:48:06.080 --> 2:48:08.360 able to turn those corners. So being able to adapt 2:48:08.440 --> 2:48:10.440 to the times, to be able to adapt to climate, 2:48:10.520 --> 2:48:12.160 to be able to adapt to the wounds that we're in. 2:48:12.959 --> 2:48:14.879 No nigga, that's me, but. 2:48:15.240 --> 2:48:18.760 I mean that's not normal. Like you, you're a genius 2:48:18.840 --> 2:48:21.840 man like, trust me. Like I I was. I was 2:48:21.959 --> 2:48:26.920 taking a jog this morning. Well, my boy Henry, and 2:48:27.040 --> 2:48:29.960 I was watching all your interviews, watching it all, and 2:48:30.080 --> 2:48:33.480 I was like, Yo, this dude is mad smart like 2:48:34.840 --> 2:48:38.200 and it made me mad that six years ago people 2:48:38.280 --> 2:48:40.360 well that's all they were saying, Oh, you're a street dude, 2:48:41.000 --> 2:48:44.240 your dude, and I'm looking at your progress to where 2:48:44.280 --> 2:48:47.280 you're at. I'm like, yo, man, you you're a smart dude. 2:48:47.360 --> 2:48:47.440 Bro. 2:48:47.640 --> 2:48:51.160 Me being a street nigga is st is a footnote 2:48:51.200 --> 2:48:54.279 in my life. Bro, that's a little that's a small 2:48:54.360 --> 2:48:56.600 part of my life. You know what I'm saying. Look, 2:48:57.920 --> 2:49:01.960 that ain't that ain't gonna be ever be something that 2:49:02.040 --> 2:49:03.680 I denied. That ain't ever gonna be something that I'm 2:49:03.680 --> 2:49:06.119 ashamed of. That where I come from, what I come from, 2:49:06.160 --> 2:49:10.760 what I've been through the issues that I had. Yeah, 2:49:11.520 --> 2:49:15.119 but that also helped define you, right, because what you've 2:49:15.160 --> 2:49:17.360 been through helped shopping you in a certain way to 2:49:17.440 --> 2:49:19.680 make you who you are. Right, whatever it's meant to 2:49:19.760 --> 2:49:24.080 be will be. So it's like, yeah, I've been through prisons, 2:49:24.120 --> 2:49:25.760 I've been through wars, I've been through. 2:49:27.360 --> 2:49:35.040 I've been through extreme violent situations. Right, L l told 2:49:35.040 --> 2:49:35.240 me this. 2:49:35.800 --> 2:49:39.240 LL told me say, Yo, don't let your past failures handcuffed. 2:49:39.959 --> 2:49:41.280 Mm hmm. I said what you mean? 2:49:41.360 --> 2:49:45.920 He said, Then you might drop a wht album. It 2:49:46.040 --> 2:49:50.640 won't sell, But the fuck that keep going. Nigga, act 2:49:50.720 --> 2:49:52.680 like act like you did. Nigga, act like you just 2:49:52.800 --> 2:49:56.800 went platinum. Don't let your past failures and that and 2:49:56.879 --> 2:50:01.040 that that that's attributed to every angle of life. If 2:50:01.080 --> 2:50:02.680 you didn't been in prison, you've been in the street. 2:50:02.800 --> 2:50:05.920 Like just because you started one way, that doesn't determine 2:50:05.959 --> 2:50:10.840 how you finish. So what we've been involved in this, 2:50:11.160 --> 2:50:13.960 that don't mean that we can't put our suits on 2:50:14.160 --> 2:50:16.480 and sit in these rooms and talk to these. 2:50:16.400 --> 2:50:22.040 People about life and build on some progress. They don't 2:50:22.080 --> 2:50:24.920 mean that. It don't mean that at all, my nigga. 2:50:25.440 --> 2:50:30.240 You know, man, I can't thank you enough. Man, I 2:50:30.360 --> 2:50:32.640 thank you. Man. I wanted to give your flowers. 2:50:32.680 --> 2:50:35.200 Man, thank you, thank you for giving me my motherfucking flowers. 2:50:35.480 --> 2:50:37.000 I never had too many flowers. 2:50:40.680 --> 2:50:42.320 And the fog. 2:50:42.400 --> 2:50:43.959 I want to put you on somethingcause I'm here. I'm 2:50:44.040 --> 2:50:47.920 down here for the weekend because a friend of mine 2:50:48.000 --> 2:50:56.000 is just open up a restaurant in Miami and it is. 2:50:57.520 --> 2:51:00.960 Probably going to be the top restaurant in the city. 2:51:01.200 --> 2:51:04.040 Talk about it. It's called Neuveau. 2:51:05.240 --> 2:51:08.520 Shout out to my people, Ebony Caro, Shout out the wrong. 2:51:10.240 --> 2:51:12.320 Shout out the Yandy because she's involved with that. It 2:51:12.440 --> 2:51:15.480 was yes, big grand opening last night, and this is 2:51:15.520 --> 2:51:17.720 why I'm down here, We out here celebrating that. You 2:51:17.800 --> 2:51:20.640 seeing what I'm saying is it's in one what Okay? 2:51:21.240 --> 2:51:23.840 So it's right here, right here there, right here, it's 2:51:24.879 --> 2:51:27.280 New Veau. What I'm telling you, the food is good. 2:51:27.640 --> 2:51:28.280 You like y'all? 2:51:28.360 --> 2:51:29.600 Come on, I've been right now. 2:51:30.720 --> 2:51:31.560 Yeah, we can do that. 2:51:32.280 --> 2:51:35.840 Absolutely, let's go. Absolutely, you can do that. All right, 2:51:35.959 --> 2:51:38.240 he can do that? Hey you do that? 2:51:41.879 --> 2:51:51.160 Yes, take the picture, Let's take a click and Drink 2:51:51.280 --> 2:51:54.320 Champs is a drink Champs ll C production hosts and 2:51:54.440 --> 2:51:57.360 executive producers n O r E and d j e 2:51:57.640 --> 2:51:57.880 f N. 2:51:59.040 --> 2:51:59.840 Listen to Drink. 2:51:59.720 --> 2:52:04.000 Champs on Apple podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you 2:52:04.160 --> 2:52:07.920 get your podcasts. 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