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Speaker 1: He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 2: He's a legends every Queens rapper.

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Speaker 1: He ain't agreed as your boy in o R. He's

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Speaker 1: a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d J

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Speaker 3: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And the most professional unprofessional

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Speaker 3: podcast and your number one source for drunk drink chans, mother.

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Speaker 2: Post ds New Year's c that's it's time for drink champs.

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Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfuck motheruck what it could be? Hoping s

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Speaker 1: to be?

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Speaker 2: This is your boy n A O N A A

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Speaker 2: what ups d J e f N.

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Speaker 1: And this is s Midle Tamy crazy war.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it.

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Speaker 1: Now now I can't I couldn't wait to get this

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Speaker 1: brother his flowers. Not only is he a rapper, now

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Speaker 1: only is an archibal now now only even a reality

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Speaker 1: star new podcast, our father soon to be husband. We

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Speaker 1: heard you know what I mean? This man, this man

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Speaker 1: got hits after hits. Someone's looking and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see him on versus this. We We're

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Speaker 1: gonna give him his flowers today. In case you don't

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Speaker 1: know who the fuck we're talking about. One holy mother.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of hit records, bro underrated, Yo, yo,

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Speaker 1: did who would you want to battle in versus?

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Speaker 4: I kept saying I wanted to battles your button.

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Speaker 3: Sure, now that's uneven, that's uneven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it was.

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Speaker 4: We had an issue on on Clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: You got is a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: It was on Clubhouse.

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Speaker 3: It was it was a play issue, like like we

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Speaker 3: was battling songs on Clubhouse. Remember we was on quarantine.

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Speaker 3: We ain't had nothing to do with.

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Speaker 4: It was back then. We were just having fun, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And I'm playing my songs and then he kind of

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Speaker 3: up up on me because I wasn't counting my songs.

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Speaker 3: So I saved my my best for last. But I

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Speaker 3: I had a thing for like, Yo, listen, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: do the real one, a real verse and Joe.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think your body's gonna come out I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna come out of the house for that.

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Speaker 1: That's what that's what got. So listen, let's get into

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Speaker 1: the beginning, right because going through your records, uh, it

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Speaker 4: So how does that happen? I never rapped, Broka, I

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Speaker 4: never raped.

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Speaker 3: I never had no aspirations, no dreams about being a

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Speaker 3: But I wasn't sitting around like yo, I want to

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was getting a lot of trouble

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Speaker 4: And I'm always having conflict with other young black men.

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Speaker 4: Hours a day. At that time, I think I was

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Speaker 4: You're straight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're straight in the box right. And it was

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Speaker 4: They was getting it in.

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Speaker 3: One nigga's bigging on the balls. Another niggas rapping, and

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Speaker 4: And I wrote my first rhyme that Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny, My first I was rapping before, right,

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Speaker 1: Nigga was in there. I don't know why right, But

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Speaker 4: I knew at that point. I knew that I knew I.

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Speaker 1: So when it was it? When was it? Because you

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Speaker 3: When you when I was in the cam when I

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Speaker 1: Right, So we're going through So how did you get

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Speaker 1: how did you get that?

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Speaker 1: Was it Atlantic Records?

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Speaker 3: Your first My first major label deal was with Universal

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Speaker 3: if you remember, that was a song that put me

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Speaker 3: So I when when I got out, I was just like,

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Speaker 4: And then the universe was signing.

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Speaker 4: No, I got dropped, Get I gotta dropped? Okay, yeah

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Speaker 3: But you got a bad go right, Yeah, they paid

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It hurts your confidence. So I was I was I

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Speaker 3: And then I and I made the song Rumors I

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't know that. Nobody.

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Speaker 3: Nobody came to me and said, listen, this is the

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So I'm just like waiting for it to

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Speaker 3: sitting there away and I'm doing I'm still doing me.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that I had the mind state

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Speaker 4: And something in me was just like, well, all right,

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Speaker 4: Full budget, none of that. So I had to I

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Speaker 3: If I set up here and tell you that, I

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Speaker 1: The like I made it.

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Speaker 3: Only only the best niggas get a real record deal.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it hurt me.

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Speaker 1: This is real funny because I had already kind of

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Speaker 3: So is that what you're saying, like that's one hundred

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, budgets were crazy, mister Lee.

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Speaker 1: They gave me water. It's a prank joke. Why did

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Speaker 3: Take your time, my bad. You So, so I'm looking

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Speaker 3: So so you think that you associate success with the

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Speaker 1: What I mean.

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Speaker 3: So when I got out and I got my first

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Speaker 4: Been a lot better to plus the label politics too.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, Once you learn that, once you learn that, you

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Speaker 1: Did I make it?

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Speaker 3: So when you get dropped, you like you start to

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Now around a little bit because you just recently went

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Speaker 1: to Saint Thomas and sometimeas Saint Croix, and you got

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Speaker 3: No, my family is from St. Thomas in listen, listen,

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Speaker 3: I spent the whole summer in Saint Croix when I

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Speaker 1: I do have Puerto Rican a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can see it. I never talked about it, but absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I got, I got, I got, I got cousin's named Felix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I know Felix, I know him. Yeah, so real.

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Speaker 1: So how was that experience because that was your first

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Speaker 1: I found one of my uncles. Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I found one of my uncles randomly.

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Speaker 1: Or so I knew.

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Speaker 3: I knew my grandfather had like twenty kids.

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Speaker 3: My grandfather wasn't nothing to be played with, at least

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Speaker 1: But I had to be so.

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Speaker 3: But I knew the name my last my mother, his

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Speaker 1: I'm your uncle.

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Speaker 4: So I found my mother brother.

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Speaker 1: Online no over over texts, okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: When I got the Saint Thomas earlier last year, you know,

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Speaker 4: I met some of my relatives. This is my mother's

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it was that yeah, yoh man, And.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit go ahead. Would you ever do

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Speaker 3: I mean it's all business though, bro right, So everything

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Speaker 4: It, you know, I would do it in the heart

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Speaker 4: of the heart of dime. I love it. You love

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have that same experience. I only did it

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Speaker 1: I feel like because but I.

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Speaker 3: Felt like that they didn't. They was like, well, we

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Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not with all that.

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Speaker 1: They thought they were starting to mainoa deep.

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Speaker 3: They wasn't get that I was gonna go on TV

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Speaker 6: Who she?

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Speaker 3: Who she filming with? No, I ain't gonna go who.

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Speaker 3: You got me feeling it now, I don't be filming

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Speaker 3: like seven episodes out of that season.

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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of because it's pretty fourteen Yeah, yeah, seven.

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Speaker 1: So what you said you would never do, I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, if the business was right, they got at

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Speaker 4: But so now we got to be, you know, in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because it was that I had them

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Speaker 4: I think the same thing to me one time for

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Speaker 4: Robber stick up?

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Speaker 1: How many people ask you for a million bucks after

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Speaker 4: How many?

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Speaker 1: How many people ask you for a million bucks? All up?

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Speaker 1: Like this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we printed up. We printed up like one hundred

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Speaker 2: They was taking them money and taking out for that

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Speaker 2: many times throwing money got your.

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Speaker 3: We thought it was real money.

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Speaker 4: You know how people are they people they want real money,

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Speaker 4: of course for real.

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Speaker 1: But because I was like, damn, that was mad pressure.

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Speaker 1: That must have been mad pressure, especially your family members.

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Speaker 1: You're giving million, give it to your family.

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Speaker 3: I always felt like, man, maybe we should have changed it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like a million million, But I think I

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Speaker 1: I think I think that even if you would have

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Speaker 1: you still love do you love this game? The game?

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Speaker 1: I don't love.

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Speaker 3: I don't absolutely love the business of the game. I

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Speaker 3: love the art of it. I love to to create something,

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Speaker 3: you know, to see something that you created then let

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Speaker 3: love for the game. In that way, the business of

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Speaker 3: it is disheartening, you know what I mean. It takes

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Speaker 3: like god, all listen, right, oh list because you understand,

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Speaker 3: like the general public don't understand that. You know, when

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Speaker 3: So they say that records are not made and manufactured.

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Speaker 3: They you know, it's like they promote it, they market it. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's a budget, it's.

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Speaker 4: People, it's a plan. So they think that you just

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Speaker 3: They don't understand that that two hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 3: to go behind it is just not there yeap, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and you still got to recoup that two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty.

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Speaker 3: But nowadays they don't even they're not even.

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Speaker 1: If you not.

447
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 3: In that top algorithm, you no top ten percent of

448
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 3: artists like us like a Drake or Nigga, Like you

449
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 3: can't get paid for that two fifty more. They not

450
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 3: even they're not even doing that. Wow, they're not putting

451
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 3: out they're not getting behind a rap record with that

452
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 3: type of money.

453
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 1: No more. No, it's crazy that when they say that

454
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 1: rap wasn't in the top billboard this year.

455
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 3: I've been seeing that, like how does that happen? And

456
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 3: when we are the most influential. But I feel like

457
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 3: we influenced the world and everybody took pieces of hip hop,

458
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 3: and then certain genres might be even more bigger. I

459
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: think afro beats is like world music, like them bowld relative,

460
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: the Latin is huge, you know what I'm saying. But

461
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 3: I feel like all those have ingredients and elements of

462
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 3: hip hop.

463
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Speaker 1: Right.

464
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 2: But it's also what you're saying that if the labels

465
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Speaker 2: ain't pushing it, you're not going to see them in

466
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Speaker 2: the billboard. I mean, the music isn't out there because

467
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 2: you know, the artists aren't making a.

468
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: Great, great music. What it is is to me, I

469
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: think the labels just got lazy and they want the

470
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: artist that's already They're looking for people that's like already

471
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 1: got They not deping artists no.

472
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 3: More, no development, development, and all that is over because

473
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 3: you know what all of the departments that they had

474
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 3: to develop an artist, like let's just say like media training, right,

475
00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 3: they don't they're not doing that.

476
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 1: Artists, development, development, none of that right.

477
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: So it's just like you gotta come as is you

478
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 3: because it's about the algorithm. So if you don't have

479
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 3: the numbers to match what you're doing we ain't fucking

480
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 3: with it, and you might pass up on an artist

481
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: that really got it, because before it was about your talent.

482
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 4: It was like, damn, this is the next such and such,

483
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 4: this is the first such and such, This is this guy?

484
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: Is it?

485
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: Whether that was R and B, whether that was wrapping

486
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 3: female rappers, young rapper, it didn't matter if you had it,

487
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: they were They was willing to invest in it and

488
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 3: kind of make you a stuff. They're not making out.

489
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: They're not making them stars a moment at all.

490
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: They because they're stupid. Sorry, record loads, but sorry, but

491
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: they kind of kind of like you.

492
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: Said, they want turnkey artists.

493
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 3: The money, right, it's about the money though. It's easier

494
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 3: for them to get behind something than it is to spend,

495
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: you know, a million and a half per artist just

496
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 3: to build them up.

497
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy with Leo. I spoke to

498
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: Leo the other day and Leo said, this is still

499
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: this is still the easiest game to get in right

500
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: hip hop, because he said, right now you used to

501
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: have to pay for the album covers, Like right now

502
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: we could just take a picture. You don't even have

503
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: to pressure off up the album cover. You remember how

504
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: much that she used to cause the press c a

505
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: fucking like, like your budget was done before you. You

506
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: didn't even drop. You was already in the red right

507
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: now as you got director consume on, like if you

508
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: got and you could just hit that button and it's

509
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: direct That's what Leo are saying. He's like, yo, you

510
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: know for seasonal artists. Yeah, He's like, it's the best

511
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: time for us.

512
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Speaker 4: That's the best thing to do right now.

513
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Speaker 3: And I was just having a conversation the other day

514
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: direct consumer, because if you built up a base, if

515
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 3: you got if.

516
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 4: You got one hundred people that love you.

517
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 3: A hundred times ten, talk to it going, yeah, you're gone,

518
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: speak to them, give it to them. They understand because

519
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 3: the days of them nurturing artists and making them you know,

520
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 3: Mary J. Blige in Leasha Keys, I don't know if

521
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: we're seeing that.

522
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: No more, you know it. What's the ill shit about

523
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: doing this podcast is we could actually see the algorithms.

524
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: Remember back in the days. Sorry sounds like the old guy,

525
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: remember the back of the day. Sorry it sounds like that, dude,

526
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: But hey, lucky to be Remember we used to go

527
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: on tour, and when you go on tour, they will

528
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: send you on like thirty two states, fifteen of them

529
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: states didn't matter what were you doing in Kentucky When

530
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: you ain't selling not won unit in Kentucky and you

531
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: can't win over the whole fucking state, They're just not

532
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: fucking with you. Just avoid. It's not no disrespect and

533
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: no beep to that. But it's like, and nowadays you

534
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: could actually see you don't have to waste your time.

535
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to go to Milwaukee. If you're not

536
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: letting Milwaukee you have you can stick with your algorithms

537
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: to stick with New York is my market, Philly is

538
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: my market, Delaware is my market, Connecticut, and so on

539
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth.

540
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Speaker 4: So that's the good thing about I.

541
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: Think that's the advantage if you know how to do that.

542
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: Right, right the metrics right, because the metrics shows that

543
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: exactly where right, you know, you may have some impact.

544
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 7: Right.

545
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: It also shows your.

546
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: Your age range, uh, your you know what what what

547
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: you know agenda right, so it shows you a little

548
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: bit of everything.

549
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: So now you're able to to kind of like go

550
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 4: right directly there.

551
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love that you're still out partying.

552
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: You used to be every night. I'm still.

553
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm still, I'm still. I haven't retired. I haven't retired.

554
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: You know, I'm still like a good time. You know,

555
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: we're not partying aimlessly though we're not.

556
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: We're not.

557
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 3: Oh man, last time with me and you was here

558
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 3: in Miami. I think I told you the story. Me

559
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: and you.

560
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: We went to.

561
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: Crome on twelve. Okay, okay, we had dinner.

562
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: And I was. I was here.

563
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: I think that was like a Friday night, and and

564
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: and I was doing ship that I had no busessy,

565
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: you had nothing another to do this, but I was.

566
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: I was on one that night.

567
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: I got smoke weed with you.

568
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we uh successful exactly.

569
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: And then you know, I was playing around with Miley.

570
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: This is Maley.

571
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: I were back then. I'm just playing around.

572
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: And loving good Miley.

573
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 3: Story ship I ain't had no business doing.

574
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: Ended up and Bob, yeah, molly on mile Man. You

575
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: woke up the next morning the rollie was going home.

576
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, holy ship, real talk, real talk, real tell that

577
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: that's great.

578
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I always I always know the interview of how it's

579
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna go, by what they order and if they if

580
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: they come late. As soon as I seen you on

581
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: the balcony. I said, this man is coming late. You

582
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: feel in Miami?

583
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: Right, you feel it love Miami. Okay, it was only

584
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: ten minutes.

585
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: You're usually we got people by that. People do not

586
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: know that I'm not an artist. I'm like, oh, artists,

587
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: I'm be like, oh.

588
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm I'm real serious about time. So

589
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: if I if I'm late, it's because something kind of

590
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: got in my way a little bit, because I measured

591
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: time really good and it's important for me, like I

592
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: tell my son all the time, like you have to

593
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: be always on time.

594
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: Don't let nobody use that as an excuse.

595
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: Right, So let me like I said, I'm bouncing my

596
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: ends a little bit. Like a year and a half ago, right,

597
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: I had said that I wouldn't interview somebody, right, but

598
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: because of my relationship with other artists, and I said,

599
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: I said, I just couldn't do it. I have to

600
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: look at this man and dinners at times with fact,

601
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: why would I go interview his enemy?

602
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 6: Right?

603
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Jamel Hill tweeted me and said I thought me and

604
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: Jamel Hill was cool, but she tweeted me and she

605
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: was like, this is why you're not really a journalist.

606
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: And at first I took it wrong. I wanted to

607
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: hit back and play motherfucker, but then I thought about it.

608
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, I do have a certain

609
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: type of loyalty that prevents me from being a full

610
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: fledged journalist.

611
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: Is that something you feel like, I ain't no journalists

612
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: at all?

613
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: Journalists?

614
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

615
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: I am not a journalist, right, I am not one, right,

616
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: And I don't even want to confuse that. Just because

617
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: somebody speaks on a mic and maybe you know, do

618
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: a podcast, you know, may may even affiliate with himself

619
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: with the radio, that doesn't mean or make you an

620
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: absolute journalist. I think that's a for the real journalists

621
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: out there that really that's a professional. That's a profession.

622
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: They went to school and they you know, and ain't

623
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: really living that life. That's for them that I ain't that.

624
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Right, Like like they always give me an example, they say, oh, well,

625
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: like more reposing them. They interviewed the cuts Klans, And

626
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, like they they'll give

627
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: me examples like that. I don't want to interview no rapists,

628
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: like I don't want to, Like I'm sorry, Like I

629
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: got to mind, Like if I know there's certain things

630
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: that you said, like a.

631
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: Real true journalist when it comes to journalism, they don't.

632
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: They don't, they don't draw online.

633
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you interviewing if you're white, you can interview fire

634
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: a card if you if you're black, and if you David.

635
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: Duke's or so you're saying as a as a as

636
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: nor usual aligne with certain I do.

637
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: I have to man, because I'm not mad at you,

638
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: like like like like I would be. I would feel

639
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: bad that someone is sitting in front of me knowing

640
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: to me and you got a great relationship and then

641
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: they're shitting on you and then me even trying to

642
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: stop them because at times like and you're gonna.

643
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: Learn more and more.

644
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: You've been in media for some time since Kitchen Talk,

645
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: You've been doing this, so I know you've been learning more.

646
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: But sometimes you are guilty by association.

647
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that. I feel like that because

648
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: we we pick our sides. Bro.

649
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: It is what it is like.

650
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. If me and you getting money,

651
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: our families know each other. You have you pulled my

652
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: crib on thanksgiving up? You know, we busting bags together.

653
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: We have business relationship as well as a working one.

654
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: It's in me to honor that. It ain't in me

655
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: to with that type of relationship.

656
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: To to to congregate with anybody that that you feel

657
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: like you got a problem with, that's just not in me.

658
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not.

659
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: That doesn't make me have a problem with the other person, understand,

660
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: But I don't want to congregate with the people that

661
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: you don't fuck with because I want to honor that relationship.

662
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: I think it should be more of that, Like let's

663
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: jor like niggas. I don't pick sized niggas. What are

664
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: you talking about? When you don't pick size, the side get.

665
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: Picked for you.

666
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: And if you if you're supposed to be my man,

667
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: you under some dude's comments like it his ship.

668
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm judging you, bro, What the fuck? Why would

669
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: you be liking that? Listen, that's only really started really

670
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: with some internet ship. And I don't like to always

671
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: attribute attribute things to the street because I didn't.

672
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: I didn't been many places since then.

673
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: But like, if you beefing on an and you and

674
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: he's a serious guy, right, he's already saying hisself, yeah,

675
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: glory be with Maine on every day. So when I

676
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: see man, what's.

677
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: Up with him too?

678
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: The side get picked for you.

679
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Right.

680
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: Nobody's saying maybe he don't got nothing to do with it.

681
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: People already associate you. You're guilty by the association, my association.

682
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: So but you gotta if that's the person you fuck with,

683
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: own it, Yeah, own it. This is I funck with

684
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: this person, good, bad, indifferent.

685
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Okay, switching up a little bit.

686
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: You know you're you're on a national radio station. Yeah,

687
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: with Angela, Right, and she lives by those rules. Journeys,

688
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: she's a journey. She can be taken as a journalist.

689
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: Would there ever be a time where she's interviewing somebody

690
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: and you're there? Would you not show up? Or how

691
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: would you handle it with somebody I ain't with you,

692
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: ain't fucking with all somebody one of your people who

693
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: ain't fuck with?

694
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to go.

695
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the right cho But she me

696
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: and her had had have had conversations where she wouldn't

697
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: do it certain interviews with certain people's if she really

698
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: fucked with the person like she honest her friendships, you

699
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it all depends on the

700
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: people and it and it kind of depends on the

701
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: problem too.

702
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm about to say.

703
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: It depends on the problem.

704
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: If you're telling me, like I'm saying, now, what's up, bro,

705
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: like you want you know you're gonna that this You're like, nah, man,

706
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: I'm not debating it like it is what it is.

707
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not pursuing it neither. But I don't

708
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: fun with that person and me and you like that.

709
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you have that, like you can.

710
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: See when it's real, and you can see when it's

711
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: when it's when it's not real. You know what I'm saying,

712
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: Like it's giving flowers, give flowers, giving people they fly.

713
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: Really know that we're gonna give.

714
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: You your flowers.

715
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: Man, man, this is nice, But I like this.

716
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: Wow, thank you? Yes, absolutely absolutely. So what's your favorite

717
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: performing or making the record? Making it? Making the record? Yeah,

718
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I thought you said performing performing it?

719
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: You know what, Making it is fun because coming up

720
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: with it, performing it is just like when seeing that

721
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: have some impact and then people seeing your words. You

722
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean, It's no greater high than that.

723
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: There's no greater high. And you know what I mean,

724
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: Holy you bu you know what I meant. Huge records,

725
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: it's no greater feeling than that, you know. But but

726
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: when I was making it, I always like, damn, I

727
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: remember sitting back coming up with these words, you know

728
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: what I mean. The feeling of of doing that and

729
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: those words becoming something is like.

730
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: There was even a better feeling. But when you go

731
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: out and perform that record, like your new record don't

732
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: work for the first time, but you you performed, that's it,

733
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: that's happened to be. This is what the they just

734
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: looked at me, crickets. It was crikeds what they telling

735
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: me you your record.

736
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: Is number one?

737
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, there's no ways you doubt it too,

738
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: I won't notice it.

739
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: Six months later I came back to that same stage

740
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: Or was I so happy I told it?

741
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: It's a different feeling when everybody know your.

742
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Words, yes and you got all right? Only above for

743
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, there's people who listen to

744
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: that record who probably don't listen to hip hop.

745
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: It's people that transcend.

746
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, it's people that listen to that

747
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: record that really don't even listen to me.

748
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Wow, you know.

749
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: That, I don't know.

750
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: You ain't got nobody, don't get me, don't get me together.

751
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: I just got I just I just got some water.

752
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: They got me, they got me, they gave me your water. Yeah,

753
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: let's go, We're going straight to shots. Okay, wow right,

754
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: oh wow, So but ahead, let's go. So there's people

755
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: that listen to that record.

756
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: That while you don't even listen to me because it

757
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: kind of crossed the street, you know what I mean.

758
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: So it's like if you if all your songs on

759
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: across the street, and are they really gonna finish? Like

760
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: I got a couple of records that it's like a

761
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: lot of white people, they're like, yeah, man, you know

762
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: that that fucking it above and remember my name?

763
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

764
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: When I was in high school, like that was our

765
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 4: song right there.

766
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: So it's just like, man, that feels good. I performed

767
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: that at bob Mitz Fuss. You said, Bob Mitz Fust

768
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: and bot Mitz Fast. One of them is for a female,

769
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: oh ship, one of them is for the male. I think,

770
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: I think, don't quote me if I'm wrong.

771
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.

772
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: I think the bar Mitz Fuss for the for the

773
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: young boy. I think the bat Mitz foot is for

774
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: the young girl.

775
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: Weddings. I'm talking about Islamic weddings.

776
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: Wow, you know, uh, Muslim weddings crazy because it was

777
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: across the street of it.

778
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Jesus you got a quick time.

779
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm in. I'm in. Let's do this, Okay

780
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: you readily?

781
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm bad.

782
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 4: Sorry.

783
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: This is our drinking game, man, drinking game. We'll give

784
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: you two choices. Pick one, we're not drinking. If I

785
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: don't pick it, then we don't pick it.

786
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: We drinking.

787
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: Or if you say both, Okay, you really don't want to.

788
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: Ask, I'm gonna switch up the first one. Go ahead,

789
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: the first of one. Jay z or Nahs, jay Z Damn,

790
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have switched that. I'm trying to get to it.

791
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Go back to the original one, okay, jay z.

792
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 4: Or Caine.

793
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 3: Damn Caine kind of gave gave us jay Z, but

794
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna save from the legacy jay Z.

795
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Okay nas or l L because you were in like

796
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: that light skin category two brown like nas Okay, that's

797
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna uncle murder or yeah, y'all uncle murder.

798
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 4: Okay, Swisser, just blaze.

799
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: Damn.

800
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: Those both of my guys gave me hits.

801
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: Take a shot.

802
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a shot on that.

803
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: Oh I like this one m P or marb deep.

804
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 4: Hands down mob Deep and I'm from Brooklyn.

805
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: I love human I expect that.

806
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a huge.

807
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: Mark like that.

808
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 4: You know, none of my guys Yeah those my guys

809
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 4: is my guys, like but the mab.

810
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on man, you're doing it's crazy. And let

811
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: me just say this real quick, because I know it's

812
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: going to sound like a little curveball is and I

813
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: know it's going to sound a little curveballersh. But I

814
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: recently started to know how dope mall deep is. Ive

815
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: been in the algorithm so long the same.

816
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a huge mab de fan.

817
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: I got it, and I'm grateful that I got a

818
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: chance to tell Prodigy that. I don't know if you

819
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: really understood that though, Like I'm really a huge mab

820
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: deep fan.

821
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: Like that infamous album. Man, that was a whole other level.

822
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: But there I felt like they was really they made

823
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: me really take a peek inside the Queensbridge, you know

824
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: what I mean.

825
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that was a time.

826
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, rest peace, Prodigy, definitely.

827
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: Podcast, Joe and Jada are a million dollars worth the games.

828
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada, Joe and Jada definitely got last year's

829
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, and I believe y'all got this

830
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: year is coming up. I'mna give you. I'm gonna give you.

831
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that, y'all mad funny Fab. I knew

832
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: how funny you are. I'm so glad that the world

833
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: you can see how funny Fab is.

834
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: That is money. Yeah, yeah, such a human.

835
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: And at first, I'm gonna be honest with you because

836
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Fab is like one of them jay Z type of

837
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: dudes that we don't know nothing about because he says

838
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: a mystique. So I was scared at first. So I

839
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: was like because because you know, And then I was like, damn,

840
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: he's doing it right. He's showing his personality. He's laughing.

841
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have worked with nobody else to work, I

842
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: had to work with somebody. He was super comfortable, comfortable,

843
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: real relationship with.

844
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna get into that. We're gonna finish quick

845
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: time of slot Young Doug or little Baby.

846
00:38:49,880 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: Oh Man, Dog Okay Vada or Dave East, mister David.

847
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Fab or Jada Kiss.

848
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: So I'm a home team player, no shot, no fat.

849
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay fat yeah, uh Cam or Mace.

850
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 4: I always always like Cam a little more, was more gritty.

851
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: It was more for me.

852
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely locks or clips locks.

853
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 8: Mm hmm, Universal or Atlantic Atlantic, Yes, University man, okay,

854
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 8: IRV God your Chris Lighty.

855
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they both legends. Rest in peace, Rest in peace.

856
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drink the both of them.

857
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: Let us go. We're gonna drink them, both of them.

858
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: That's by the both passed away. Rest in peace. Man,

859
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Biggie or Big Point Big you have a met Big.

860
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: Years ago like he wasn't he was?

861
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: Mm hmm too Parc or Easy Park just gonna say

862
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: easy that was. Yeah, this is one of my favorite questions.

863
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: You have always doubts me on it, Boot Tang or

864
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: n w A. Let's drink it.

865
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 4: Let's do it because they you know what, because I'm.

866
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 3: Influenced by both.

867
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm influenced by both. Yeah, let's yeah, and they influenced

868
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: too class separately.

869
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying. We got to do the

870
00:40:53,600 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: whole shot. You don't have to Yeah, yeah, like you

871
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: t I or lud said, you're not gonna stop while

872
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: you listen frightening or Gucci man, I'm gonna get at

873
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: the Gucci okay that Yeah, it's that influence.

874
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Okay, Nino Brown or Frank White, Nino was a rat.

875
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: Yeah he became a rat. Yeah, that's it. That's all.

876
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: He wasn't throughout the whole movie, the whole movie, throughout

877
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: the whole movie to the end.

878
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: He sucked up the movie. I wasn't born with it.

879
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: Smool in my mouth, Hawkins, Right, okay. Premiere Pete Rock

880
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 4: premiere mm hmm.

881
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Sean Pete or o dB oh dB.

882
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: Ob the MTV raps or video music box, video music

883
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 2: box pants down.

884
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all that respect. The last question before

885
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: you get back into the interview. I'm not gonna lead

886
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: the witness. I was about to, I'm not gonna leave

887
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: the witness. Loyalty or respect.

888
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: You can't have loyalty if you don't have respect. I

889
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: always say that there's no like who you're gonna be

890
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: loyal to if you don't respect it. Let's take a

891
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: shot for that. This is impossible. So it's respect is

892
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: the foundation of everything.

893
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I got a lot of inside questions.

894
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: That this is dangerous in the middle of the day.

895
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: This is a zoom oh oh, yeah, you requested that

896
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: a little saucy over here real listen, and then you.

897
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: In Miami, so you know you don't go home. You

898
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 4: got a problem, you don't go Yeah, it's it. Yeah,

899
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: I did Height thirty in the morning.

900
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Now you're supposed to be making a Soca album, not

901
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: an album.

902
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: But you know what.

903
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: I felt like, no playing with When I heard that,

904
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you know what.

905
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: I went the same Thomas and I was riding on

906
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: the float.

907
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: You got turned out Thomas turned.

908
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 2: Album.

909
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what.

910
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: Happened was the guy on the mic was it was

911
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: like it was like so many piece thousands of people outside.

912
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: Have you ever been a carnival?

913
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: Thousands of people outside, and and the guys.

914
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: Like let the ambulance, dude back up, give it spast,

915
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: give it spast. I was like, man, that sh sound

916
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 3: like a hook.

917
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to go to the studio,

918
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: and I was like, give it spast. I made a

919
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: Soca record. Man shout out the fan Yo yo and

920
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: and bungee galling man.

921
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: I think saved my life, saved my mentality.

922
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: I was used to the tunnel and club speed and people,

923
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: you know, and there's there's no everyone that's partying. They

924
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: dancing all night. Like recently, I just went to UHT

925
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Christner's comedian party. I not forgot how it feels to

926
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: be in a party without ice girls, Like nobody was

927
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: ice growling. I was like, nobody's in here, mad.

928
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: I don't like them.

929
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: Nobody's mad.

930
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: I like the parties and everybody's happy.

931
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I like those parties like there

932
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: was nobody man. I was like, yo, I'm not good.

933
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: I was like, your hip hop has ruined me, bro,

934
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Like hip hop has ruined me. Like I'm used to

935
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: walking in an event a club, if it's a club setting,

936
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm used to like someone like something happening, something happening,

937
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: and I didn't experience that. Is that what you're gonna

938
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: do with the soca?

939
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: I like, I like socas is vibes, Like, but you

940
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: know what dope As a hip hop artist, we tap

941
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 3: into everything, you know, Spanish market, like I've made songs

942
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm rapping in Spanish right, you know, like it's just culture, bro,

943
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: Like you know I've worked with Diamond Platinums, you know

944
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: from Tanzania. You know, he's one of the biggest artists

945
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: coming out of Africa. So It's just like, I just

946
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: think that we could do whatever we want to do.

947
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Do you ever think did you ever think afrobeasts would

948
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: be here? Like I never knew what it was until

949
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: I heard it, because you're from Brooklyn, and Brooklyn is

950
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: heavily reggae heavily you guys, You guys are everybody's like

951
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: automatically Jamaican.

952
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 5: If you from Brooklyn, Indian, it was you something you

953
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 5: should add in you you you you, you know you

954
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 5: from somewhere.

955
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: You know you Jamaican, you you know you're Beijing, you Haitian,

956
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: you something you know? But no, I mean I think

957
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: we influenced by that hip hop was influenced. They said

958
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: cool hurt was what jamake it.

959
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's his background.

960
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: Make it. Yeah cool hurk man. Wherever you happen, we

961
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: want to get I want to. I want to.

962
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: I want to, Yeah, I want to apologize a cool hurt.

963
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: Oh.

964
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: I just I just want to apologize the cool Hurt man.

965
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: I want to do this because I talked about doing

966
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: on my podcast, but I didn't say the name of

967
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: who I was talking about.

968
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: Okay, what was you saying the reference to?

969
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything to him. I never disrespected this man.

970
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: But I did disrespect him, okay, And I want to

971
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: admit this right here on drink Champs of how I

972
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: I knocked his scooter down? What I knocked his scooter down?

973
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: His scooter that he was rotten. I'm back into it,

974
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: say mistake. Oh okay, the scooter. It's not like you

975
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: just ran up on cool but but I was so

976
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 3: priud that I couldn't pick it up and I left

977
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: it there. He don't know.

978
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: It's YouTube knows, you know.

979
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: People told me. So I apologize going into the school.

980
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: It's crazy, man, and I'm sorry man.

981
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: Mother. H Okay, I know we spoke about it briefly,

982
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: but let's rap about it. Let's rap about it. Let's

983
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: before we get there. I forgot you had a podcast.

984
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: And you know also you gotta remember you was coaching

985
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: me years ago.

986
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, so, so how how was it? Because

987
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: kitchen talk was really mainly you, but you really, let's

988
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: rap about it. You guys are like really like like

989
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: the A team A yeah, yeah, so one, how did

990
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: y'all put that together? And to how do y'all worry

991
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: not clashing egos?

992
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: That's the thing, okay, in order to in order to

993
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 3: have a team effort, you got to lead an ego

994
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: at home. And we and as rappers and as black men,

995
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: we all have that because when we have nothing else,

996
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: all we had was our pride.

997
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 4: All we had was our ego. You know what I mean,

998
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 4: no money, no nothing in our pocket.

999
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm that nigga.

1000
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: You know you feel you feel that, right.

1001
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: So I think when you're mature enough to say, look,

1002
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: I could still be me and still support you, still

1003
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: gonna be able to support you. It don't diminish me.

1004
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: But that come with maturity though, That come with time.

1005
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: And I think that we got to a space where

1006
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: we built our relationship over years, you know, us working

1007
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: out together, hanging out together, like really trying to really

1008
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: kind of get to know each other, right outside of

1009
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 3: just music, you develop a relationship. But also is respect.

1010
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 3: Remember I told you, respect is the foundation of everything.

1011
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 3: So I don't want I won't disrespect you, my nigga,

1012
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: you know you, my guys, I don't want to disrespect you.

1013
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 4: So so the thing is, that's the only way to

1014
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 4: to to.

1015
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 3: Kind of diminish the ego is to have that that

1016
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: that level of respect, to understand that you by supporting you,

1017
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: your nigga.

1018
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: It doesn't diminish you. It might be a Jim.

1019
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: Jones show, it ain't my show, all right, I'm gonna

1020
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: come and support everything ain't got to be about me.

1021
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: And then when I got something going on, then the

1022
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: guys will pull up right and support it right. So

1023
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: it's a it's a give and take though, and I

1024
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: think we're stronger together now.

1025
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: And for the first time, it felt like New York unity.

1026
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: Man.

1027
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the one thing that you know me as

1028
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: a you know, I live in Miami, but I'm my

1029
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: heart is in New York because I'm always going to

1030
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: be in New York. And I love to see us

1031
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: work together, like sometimes I love to see us even

1032
00:49:54,280 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: beefing together as long as we like you, you know,

1033
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: because the one thing certain is and you know, I

1034
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: love Jim and I love cam right, and I know

1035
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound crazy too, but if they were to

1036
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: say to me or to anybody, yo, we set this up,

1037
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: it feels like it because you like, once they beefing,

1038
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: you can't go on Instagram. They own Instagram, both of

1039
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: them they own. You don't never see that. And I'm like,

1040
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: if they actually thought.

1041
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: This out, even though I'm sure it's not.

1042
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: I know, but when as fans of them, fans of

1043
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 3: the music, and fans of the of their movement, legacy,

1044
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: the legacy of what they did, we would want them

1045
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: to be like, man, this is just playing. He's just playing,

1046
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 3: just playing, you know, But nah, yeah, it's real man.

1047
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: And I love I love both.

1048
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.

1049
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: I got to I got to go on tour with them.

1050
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: I got to. I didn't even realize that I knew

1051
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: Cam before him and Jim linked. He said that he

1052
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: had put it on his freestyle. Yeah, with the freestyle

1053
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: of clue ironic when you were just speaking about Clue earlier.

1054
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: And then so yeah, man, I hope I hope them.

1055
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: I hope them. I wish them brothers the best. Yeah,

1056
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: what are you doing something like that? Because do you

1057
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: get involved or do you just like you can't.

1058
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: You can't, you can't do nothing about that. You've got

1059
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: to respect that.

1060
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: You know, relationships are redefined every day, right, you see

1061
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You may start off as a potential

1062
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: op with a nigga and end up as an ally

1063
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: R like I said, almost right. And then we watched

1064
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: Brothers kind of have relationships that deteriorate, and then we

1065
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: don't like to see that because we understand how how

1066
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: important brotherhood is, you know, But when that is happening,

1067
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: you just gotta just step back and just let that be.

1068
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because I'm cool with Cam,

1069
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: you know, and you know, but first time ever heard

1070
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: Cam hm, he was like when it comes to being shot,

1071
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: when it comes to me and Jimmy, I'm like me too,

1072
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying, Like they was they was brothers.

1073
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that, man, I remember, yeah, I remember.

1074
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: I would never I would never asked me. I'd have

1075
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: never thought this.

1076
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: Who I don't think I don't from a hip hop standpoint,

1077
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: and in us being from New York, I don't think

1078
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: anybody would have foreseen something like that.

1079
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm r. Because it's like for me, I didn't

1080
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: know how to handle it. When Compone and Trash we're

1081
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: going through their ship, you know what I'm saying, Like

1082
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: like like me and Trage had went through.

1083
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, was distney.

1084
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did disrecords against each other, definitely did yes, yes, definitely,

1085
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: but we squashed it. And when we squashed it, him

1086
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: and Poone had their ship but they had it like

1087
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: it was like between us. So really I understood how

1088
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: bad it could have been if one of them would

1089
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: have republic. You understand I'm trying to say, like, because

1090
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: because public makes it worse. Public makes it worse.

1091
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: It makes it worse because now we're planning it out

1092
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 3: in front of the world to see, you know, and

1093
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: everybody and it and it.

1094
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 4: I feel like it's pressure when you're you're here.

1095
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: If we beefing with each other in public, now I

1096
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: gotta especially now I got it because now we get

1097
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: to hear what people thinking and see what they they're

1098
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: talking about. Now I got to deal with the pressure

1099
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: of somebody saying, yo, yourn said, man, yo, you you

1100
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: wanna say something back? You out here looking soft, nigga.

1101
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: And I feel like a lot of people be succumbing

1102
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: to that.

1103
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1104
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: They might not admit it, but they do comments.

1105
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: Get getting on your.

1106
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 4: Ass, Stay up the mother fucking comments.

1107
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: Is that a pause?

1108
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: And I don't do balls, man.

1109
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: I can't an't work from me. So what was what

1110
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: was it was in pickle juice? It was when when

1111
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: you opened up the.

1112
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: Relish, that's the jaw of relish. I love relish man

1113
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 4: that's weird. Look I put relish, you put Relish in

1114
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 4: the tunes fish but no.

1115
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is why I was like, I think, man,

1116
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: it's crazy because in the marathon they give you pickle juice.

1117
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: It's Relish and pickles. Yes, their cousins. Right.

1118
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: Basically it's shopped up that stuff.

1119
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: Really small pieces of pickle.

1120
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's the that's the cheek colde to run more.

1121
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: I was like this, you know, I have no idea.

1122
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1123
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 4: Says the cheat code.

1124
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: The juice is the cheat code, like in the twenty

1125
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: first mile my marathon. Yeah, I guess, I don't know.

1126
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: I just didn't make a guy. The guy gave me

1127
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: a pickle.

1128
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 4: I was trolling because I had called academics that jar Relish.

1129
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.

1130
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: I said, he built like a he built like a

1131
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: jar Relish.

1132
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: Ready, yeah, you built like a joh Relaish, You motherfucking

1133
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: yoah Relish.

1134
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 7: You know.

1135
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: So I was just trolling. So I had a joll

1136
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: job that caught that they knew what it was.

1137
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: They knew what it was always right to the marathon.

1138
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: Read it my head.

1139
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 4: I was likening with that secret.

1140
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1141
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: Now, I guess when you see me with the jo

1142
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: relis now I'm running, man, Why Like.

1143
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: You've been through, you survived the streets. It's about the

1144
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: toughest part. And when I hear you see something like that,

1145
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: like you say, academics, why do you why do you

1146
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: indulge back?

1147
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: Sometimes if I indulge with you, it's because I feel

1148
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: like you're worth it.

1149
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: You're worth it, Okay, that's that's real.

1150
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, right, it's if I don't say

1151
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: nothing back to you, it's it's like it's you a

1152
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: piece of ship, and it's like it can't be me

1153
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: versus a piece of ship because no matter how, you

1154
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 3: still a piece of shit.

1155
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1156
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 4: Period, Just me versus a piece of shit, right.

1157
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen. But yeah, with him, it's just

1158
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: he just was saying some things and I said something back,

1159
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: and you know, it is what it is.

1160
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: It's just that our rhythm man.

1161
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Right, Because because I'm the biggest Floyd mather Weather fan. Yeah,

1162
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: and sometimes I get mad, like when Floyd take these exhibitions,

1163
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: because no matter what on that night, no matter who

1164
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: you fight, y'all, on that same level, on the same

1165
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: level you know what I mean. It doesn't matter if

1166
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: you're ten times above.

1167
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: So you're right about that. But I feel like a

1168
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 3: lot of times with the Internet, we're seeing a different

1169
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: time right now, right with the things that go on

1170
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: on YouTube streaming, and we see like these guys building pages.

1171
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: And I ain't talking about academic I'm just saying in general,

1172
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: building pages.

1173
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: And their whole theme is.

1174
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 3: To just go at artists and go at rappers and

1175
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: go at notable people and tear them down right. And

1176
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if what they're saying is fact you

1177
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 3: or anything. It's clickbait. We want to build our pages,

1178
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: we want on the minor size. It's content. You see

1179
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So sometimes you're like, man, I gotta,

1180
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: I gotta say something back, I gotta.

1181
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: That's part of the strategy that you're falling into their clickbait.

1182
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: No, because now when you have your own when you

1183
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: got your own program and platform, now it's mine, that's real.

1184
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 4: Now you gotta reverse that.

1185
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: Fucking fucking because now what what I'm gonna do, Because

1186
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: I can't beat you at truth, because the lives more entertaining,

1187
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: I can't do with your hand. I can't know how

1188
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: like fighting against ghosts nigga like who like who? And

1189
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: then we can't beat them with integrity because integrity doesn't

1190
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: matter on the internet. Truth and integrity does not matter,

1191
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's all about what's entertaining

1192
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: and and and you know what what like what makes

1193
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: people laugh? And what if I could be saying a

1194
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 3: relationship to you? But if if your jokes is funny

1195
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: about me, you got it right?

1196
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know? And you resually went back to

1197
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: Rightcas Island to talk to the kids. What was that like?

1198
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: I tried to do shit on on Recas Islands as

1199
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: much as possible. They actually give me my own program.

1200
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: I got a six week program. I haven't implemented it

1201
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: yet because I'm trying to figure out exactly what I

1202
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: want to do. But my heart will always be for

1203
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: them young boys, because I was that right, I was

1204
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: the young nigga. It's a young thirty four seventy four boy, Okay,

1205
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 3: she's seventy four.

1206
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: That's the youngest.

1207
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: Yes, let me tell you, Let me tell one hundred percent.

1208
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I was.

1209
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: I went back to CE seventy four to your same

1210
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: cell right. Why I turned eighteen at it's crazy.

1211
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 4: Wow, and it being that's crazy. I was so emotional

1212
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: almost let one go.

1213
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, like it was because when I certainteen,

1214
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: I was in solitary confinement.

1215
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: And for those of you know, he's not he's not glorifying,

1216
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: he's goorifying where he's at right now in life. That's

1217
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: why I came. I want to be clear.

1218
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: I turned eighteen years old on on Ryka Island in

1219
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: a in a bing in a cell and twenty three

1220
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: hour locked in summertime always thirty year.

1221
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I want it's just yo. The universe.

1222
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the universe as well, because that cell happened to

1223
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: be unoccupied.

1224
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

1225
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: And I walked in there and I just was like

1226
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: trying to just feel what I felt, right like just

1227
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: trying to remember what it felt like to be here,

1228
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: to live here and can't get out and not know

1229
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: what to do with my rage and not nothing to

1230
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: do with all this energy, and I don't know what

1231
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: to do with it, right you see? But yeah, it's

1232
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: so I try to get him. I try to talk

1233
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: to him as much as possible. I try to do

1234
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: as much as as I can when it comes to

1235
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: you know, what they call at risk youth right and

1236
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 3: ship like that because we was young niggas going to

1237
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: spot shit like that.

1238
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Is there any difference in the mentality that

1239
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: you see now with the youth than when you was

1240
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: in there.

1241
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to say this in the right way,

1242
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: like when I looked at when I look at a

1243
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: lot of the young niggas, because I feel like they

1244
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: influenced by so many other things that we wasn't. Our

1245
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: influence was the need to get money by any means.

1246
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: If we got to shoot the shit out of somebody too,

1247
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: we get it. We're gonna do it with respect. We're

1248
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: gonna die for it. A lot of what they doing

1249
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 3: is based around drug use and shit like that, getting

1250
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: high and pilled up and k tuned up and you know,

1251
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 3: in jail smolling K two is just it's more of

1252
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: a like a not conscious of what your full activities

1253
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: really is. It's like I didn't really commit to these streets.

1254
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: I just was influenced by them. I did shit not

1255
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: because I felt like doing it or I meant to

1256
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: do it. Everything I said I did everything I did

1257
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: in my life, I meant to do it. I wasn't

1258
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: influenced by drugs. I wasn't influenced by alcohol. I did

1259
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: what I had, what I felt like I had to do.

1260
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: What I see from them is I feel like the

1261
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: influence is like drugs, alcohol, you know, pay pressure, you know,

1262
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: being in gangs and like that. I don't feel like

1263
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: that's a real commitment. I don't feel like this a

1264
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: real commitment to streets. Because you if I say, if

1265
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: I put this ship on my back and say I'm

1266
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: gonna beat this nigga, I'm gonna be it, that's and

1267
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take everything that they come with. So when

1268
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: I see them, it's just like it's like a look

1269
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: in their eyes that I don't remember seeing when I

1270
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: was a young nigga in the same thing yourself and

1271
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: these kids or I see myself as far as like

1272
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: going through the experience, I feel like when when when

1273
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 3: when we was there, we were more determined on trying

1274
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: to get something. And then I was in Rata Island

1275
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: when the phones was free. Oh yeah, you know you

1276
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 3: could wear it clothes, you had jews and you had

1277
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: to fan for yourself. You couldn't hide behind no gang.

1278
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: You had to be who you said you was, right

1279
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: you had to actually perform. You couldn't have been Just

1280
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 3: so you know what I'm saying. If you was a

1281
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: prisident in jail, reveal who you really are, you could

1282
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: have been to shoot him up. Gang bang nigga jail.

1283
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: You just you saw.

1284
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna see who you're taking your hot rocks.

1285
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: Taking your hot rocks, Yeah, taking yours.

1286
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: Look at that, look at jail niggas. Understand what I

1287
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: was saying. That exactly what's the next for men? Everything? Man?

1288
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: Because I know you was acting. Acting is cool. You know.

1289
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: I like to act, but I like to I like

1290
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: to act in something that I'm producing even more, you see,

1291
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: like doing that as a just like being hired just

1292
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: to act.

1293
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that hustle. Because I heard

1294
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: you say one time that he was looking to play

1295
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: police officer, Like, yeah, I want to. I want to

1296
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: be you wanted to. Yeah, yeah, I want to. I

1297
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: want to. I want to.

1298
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 4: I want to play a priest in the horror movie.

1299
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah wait a minute, I wasn't.

1300
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: Really I want to. I want to be a.

1301
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 3: Fucking priest in horror movie, like like like like coming here,

1302
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: but they call me when I give it.

1303
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's possessed and I got to come in there

1304
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 4: with my ship on.

1305
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: Hats the only niggas I got to beat?

1306
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: What do we do? Father?

1307
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 4: Hold on, I got you.

1308
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: Hold on. Let me just tell you how everything is

1309
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: meant to be so Iced Tea texted me this morning today. Yeah,

1310
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: and he texted me a song. And he made a

1311
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: new song. Guess what the name of his song? Hustle hard?

1312
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: Really wow? Shut out the.

1313
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: Super super Dudley.

1314
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: How was the hustle Hard movie? We still hard?

1315
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 4: Of course, hustle hard is more. It's not to me

1316
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 4: and there it's just really life.

1317
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: M hmm.

1318
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,959
Speaker 3: What we do when we get up in the morning,

1319
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: hustle off and and and don't stop and don't stop.

1320
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 3: You haven't lost a step yet.

1321
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: I lost a couple of steps, but it's okay. Come outside.

1322
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm outside though a bunch of more.

1323
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: You know, just missed a couple of amazing come with

1324
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: the journey, coming to journey, you know what I mean?

1325
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: What's what's the game if you don't miss a couple

1326
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 3: of shots.

1327
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 4: But the thing is you got to stay in the

1328
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: game again, That's that's the thing.

1329
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: And keep that smile, that smile you got to keep smiling.

1330
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: A million dollars.

1331
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 4: Now.

1332
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: Also one where this was this, this would make me

1333
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: nervous one time. Yeah, where you was like, man, every

1334
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: time I get something new, I'll go.

1335
01:04:59,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: To the hood.

1336
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1337
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, that was because that was me.

1338
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: I understood where that was leading. Yeah, but I didn't

1339
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: know if you would have respected my.

1340
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 4: Words, tell me your word.

1341
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: No, I would have been like, no, that's not the

1342
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: right thing to do.

1343
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 4: Understood, understood.

1344
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: Did you learn it's not the right thing to do

1345
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: or or you still do that?

1346
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: I know I don't do that, okay, because it's no,

1347
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: it's no. You can't please niggas like you're too accessible.

1348
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 3: They say, oh, he ain't nobody.

1349
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: That's just man. We always on Gates Avenue is nothing,

1350
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: you know.

1351
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 3: But when I got things new, the first my first Bentley,

1352
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: the first, the first Bentley I ever had was a

1353
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: black coupe.

1354
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh.

1355
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 4: The first thing I.

1356
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: Did driving from from from you know, Long Island, was

1357
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: go straight to the hood. You wanted niggas to see

1358
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 3: me in it, not because I wanted to show off,

1359
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: because I felt I thought that this was like motivation

1360
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: that yeah, that happens, and I thought that I was, like,

1361
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: I don't always looked at myself as like motivation, like

1362
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: I like from y'all.

1363
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I come from the people, so I am

1364
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: the people.

1365
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: I always looked at myself as that, like I'm not

1366
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: above y'all, Like y'all watched me out here suffering and

1367
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: struggling with y'all. Y'all, y'all know my story. Y'all know

1368
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: I was in jail going through it. Y'all know I wasn't,

1369
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: you know, been through all this ship. So it was

1370
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 3: like the first time I got that, it was just

1371
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 3: like a let me go right to the.

1372
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 4: Hood, like you saying, this is what we could do.

1373
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: You want to be happy for you.

1374
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if that always translates, Yeah,

1375
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: it doesn't.

1376
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to.

1377
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 3: I had to had to learn that because I didn't.

1378
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: I didn't actually have people that that I that I

1379
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 3: might have respected, really giving me no real game in

1380
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 3: the game.

1381
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: Or people with experience. People with experience.

1382
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: You need experience because a nigga in the street that

1383
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 3: never didn't amount to anything can't really tell you right

1384
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 3: because you know you, like, I ain't respecting shit from you,

1385
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 3: So nobody really kind of gave me no real a

1386
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 3: real game, and now I understood. I had to learn

1387
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: the hallway about a lot of ship.

1388
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: It's funny because even the crackhead and the hood has

1389
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: great advice. It's just crackhead. You just don't want to.

1390
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: Just look, you know, I look at him. That's something

1391
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 4: that we don't want.

1392
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: You don't want to be.

1393
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: But he'll still say you some wisdom though, he'll tell

1394
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: you something.

1395
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: Experience for the streets to be on them corners.

1396
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: All that's a fact.

1397
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: Okay, you've been in this game when it's the first

1398
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: time you've been disappointed. And the people of this industry,

1399
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: and I don't mean business, I mean like, because we

1400
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: all come into this with a facade that this guy

1401
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: is this person, this guy this person, and when wet

1402
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: it to meet like I don't want to meet my

1403
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: heroes no more. I heard that I don't want to

1404
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: meet my heroes no more. Bro Like, like, I'm so

1405
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: scared to meet Larry because if he disappoints me. This

1406
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: is one of my God, was there ever a time

1407
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: you wanted to meet somebody and.

1408
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: Just was like, Oh, I think that happens often. Yeah,

1409
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: I think we see people from a far and then

1410
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: we have this kind of illusion of who we think

1411
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 3: they are, the idea of who, and then we see

1412
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 3: him it's just like, man, he not who I think

1413
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 3: he was.

1414
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 4: But the real ship is that, the real shit is that.

1415
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: In the reverse, that's you too. Yep. People meet you and.

1416
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: Be like, Yo, I thought you was just like this

1417
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 3: angry guy like this fucking just wow, gud, It's like

1418
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 3: you're really cool, like you're funny, Like I would have

1419
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 3: never known you, see what I'm saying. So it kind

1420
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 3: of works in reverse, you know. But I don't have

1421
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: high expectations of people, though I did.

1422
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: I did? You know I did? I did?

1423
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: He started laughing, like, I know you're talking about I know,

1424
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 3: justic the fuck he talking about the high.

1425
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 4: Expectations for niggas.

1426
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this nigga's a fucking.

1427
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking But I got years of experience though, Yeah,

1428
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: my shit is not just like ten years. I got

1429
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,440
Speaker 1: like twenty five years of like yo, me being skeptical

1430
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: to meet people right, and not only meet them what

1431
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: the fuck? Because you can keep up with an act

1432
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: for a certain time, but that act is going to

1433
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: run out, Like for instance, uh, doctor Dre is exactly

1434
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: who I thought he was, Like he's exactly, Like I

1435
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: got to spend a whole day with.

1436
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 3: Him, go to his his his his house, a milestone man, his.

1437
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: Neighborhood, and like he was exact, and that's this is

1438
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: and this is, this is a guy that's a god.

1439
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: So like as a guard, you you like you don't

1440
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: want you don't want to be let down on the round.

1441
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: I came laid a little bit on purpose, just just yeah,

1442
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: just just just for me to be like, you know

1443
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: you you that nigga to he would have told you,

1444
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: I judge people my house, like my like my.

1445
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: Dad, anybody, yeah, any any any did not we ever

1446
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 3: tell you how I stuck the gun in.

1447
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: The gun in the house in the club for me,

1448
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 4: so I was I was the one doing the it's

1449
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 4: not the gun in the.

1450
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: Let me take you tell me. Mano was still fresh

1451
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: up the streets and I'm like, nah, were deep in

1452
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: there and we're good. He's like, yo, norie, I don't

1453
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: go nowhere without the hand and security. I was like,

1454
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: I'll hold it for it.

1455
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 4: And we're sitting there, I'm sitting in the truck.

1456
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah my, nigga, I ain't going.

1457
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 4: To remember that day like yesterday. That's a bad Give

1458
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 4: it to me. I got to hold it, yes, And

1459
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 4: I took the grip in there for me, man.

1460
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: And and then you feel safe like yeah, And I

1461
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: was like mad, really, but I understand. I understand that

1462
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: New York mentality, bro club, It was definitely you know

1463
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: you understand that the mentality.

1464
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 7: Right.

1465
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 4: So I asked this question the other day.

1466
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: I was just like, it's the streets.

1467
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 4: Is it a physical place or is it in? Is

1468
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 4: it a mentality?

1469
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: What are they calling it? Now? They said the streets

1470
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: is what?

1471
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 3: So I'm asking is it is it? Is the streets

1472
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: a physical place or is it a mentality? Oh?

1473
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: I think it's both, man, Yeah, I think we got

1474
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: to get shot to that. Yeah, I think it's both

1475
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: to I think it's both.

1476
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 4: It's both.

1477
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: Okay, But if they gentrifyed that same neighborhood, then.

1478
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: What then then you win because of mentality?

1479
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: Because of me?

1480
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the thing. Yes, that's real, that's deep.

1481
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm from bed Star right, and that's like the like

1482
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 3: a heavily gentrified neighborhood.

1483
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: They got Starbucks.

1484
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, they got even more than that.

1485
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: You got a couple of cappuccinos and all happuccinos, white

1486
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: ladies walking with dogs, and humble house and yeah that's

1487
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: down in Whims.

1488
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah his next neighbor. Yeah yeah, but yeah it's

1489
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 4: it's real.

1490
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: We got we got you can still go to for

1491
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: Green and get.

1492
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: Roll absolutely even in Besting the same block. But you

1493
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 3: got the ladies walking around their poodles and and and

1494
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 3: and fucking shipsuit dogs and they they did what those

1495
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 3: the little sandum.

1496
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 4: Burk and the Burke starts.

1497
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: We still don't know if it's good or bad though,

1498
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: right because the crime, yeah, economically is bad.

1499
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: If the ownership doesn't right in anamo is there don't better,

1500
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 3: But it's good for the I guess the crime maybe right.

1501
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: But then we trying to understand what's happening here because it's.

1502
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: Like we used to we used to hang out there.

1503
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 4: So they took the same corners that have a.

1504
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,879
Speaker 1: Little aquarium at one point it was a little aquarium,

1505
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: fisher quarium. Yeah, best didn't know the run it over.

1506
01:12:54,080 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they could be ran over. It was it

1507
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: was like made. It was like made.

1508
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the personal Maide, that is like family to me.

1509
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say.

1510
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 3: It was on Jefferson Jefferson Hompkins. It was a you

1511
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: know the Johnny pump is well the hydrant.

1512
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 4: The hydrant he made like a little that attached to it.

1513
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: Yet no in the water. He made like this, this

1514
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 3: contraption where it was like real fish in it was.

1515
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: The most creative, the most creative ship ever.

1516
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: Like and this guy's like family with me, like he

1517
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 4: made this and it was really nice.

1518
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 3: It was they said, Jadakiss came down and have to

1519
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 3: fly over the over the world.

1520
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 4: It was real small, but it was.

1521
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 3: It was dope, like gold fishing there, you understand, gold

1522
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 3: fishing on the sidewalk.

1523
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: I was mad as a motherfucker they wrecked. I was like,

1524
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: damn niggas, we can't.

1525
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 4: Have nothing shout out the hall.

1526
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: Even know you knew him, I don't even know you

1527
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: said it.

1528
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 4: Look at that like real goldfish, like the little Nemo fishes.

1529
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: Do you think you're Brooklyn, your old school Brooklyn? Did

1530
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: you ever think that there's a Brooklyn whatever exists.

1531
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: I didn't even think I would make it to this Brooklyn. Wow,

1532
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 3: i'ma be honest with you. I never looked. I never

1533
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: thought like I'm gonna live to be. I never thought

1534
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 3: in terms of that, right, but just being hunted with you,

1535
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: that's right.

1536
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you even got a main oda yeah

1537
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: noa like in my neighborhood that I brought that that's

1538
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: sucking something like that. It's a major Okay, how did

1539
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: that come about?

1540
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: So I was I was doing things for my neighborhood

1541
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 3: without so called broadcasting, and I was like always doing

1542
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 3: like coat drives and coming to the neighborhood.

1543
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: With Macy's and something like that.

1544
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 3: Right, So Macy's used to give me like sixty thousand

1545
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 3: dollars for coats. They'd be like forty between forty and

1546
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 3: sixty thousand dollars worth of coasts every year, and I

1547
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 3: would take those coats. There was brand new coats, but

1548
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: it was like the inventary and I shout out to

1549
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: Bless because he didn't want to patch me in with that.

1550
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 3: And what happened was I would take those coats and

1551
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: bring them to my neighborhoods. There was there was like females,

1552
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 3: young kids and women's coats, and I would give them

1553
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: out mostly like every year, and I would like try

1554
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 3: to do as much as I could for my for

1555
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:28,520
Speaker 3: my neighborhood.

1556
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 4: And then I got approached about having a day in

1557
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 4: my name.

1558
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: It's like that was that was That was different because

1559
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 3: I only thought niggas you had to die to get

1560
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,839
Speaker 3: a day or your name on the streets.

1561
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be gone to get that.

1562
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what what does main old day consist of?

1563
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 4: So mayn o days?

1564
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: So when I asked him, I said, listen, you're gonna

1565
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 3: give me this day. It's going to be like, what

1566
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: is it? I'm trying to understand. It was like the

1567
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 3: the Brooklyn Borough president, We're gonna give this day to

1568
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 3: Maino and it's going to be this day of service.

1569
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 3: And I'm listening to him talk and I'm just like,

1570
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 3: all right, I know what to do. First thing. First,

1571
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: I want to I want to make the day my

1572
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 3: mother's birthday. Oh okay, she rest in peace.

1573
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want to have it.

1574
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 3: I want to celebrate her birthday at the same time,

1575
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 3: but I want to do something for the that wasn't

1576
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: done for us.

1577
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 4: Let me block off two city blocks. Can I do that?

1578
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: I had this vision.

1579
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to block off two city

1580
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 3: blocks and I want to on one end, I want

1581
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 3: to have a stage for the local artists.

1582
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 4: On the other end, I want to have all these

1583
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 4: functions for.

1584
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: Kids, rides, bouncy houses, trucks, ice cream, food trusts, all that.

1585
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 4: And in the middle, I.

1586
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 3: Wanted to be festival style, like with like vendors giving

1587
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: away things. I want to sell nothing to the hook,

1588
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: right and my vision. We did that two years, two

1589
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 3: years in a row.

1590
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: We did that.

1591
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 3: It's it's no violence, it's lit. I'm talking about it's huge.

1592
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 3: Like I was watching, I was like going around looking

1593
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 3: at what Spike Lee been doing, because Spike Lee does

1594
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 3: something in bed Start too every year, big block party

1595
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 3: for do the right thing good.

1596
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 4: So I was like looking at what he was doing.

1597
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 4: I was like, I see it. So I got two

1598
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 4: city blocks.

1599
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 3: I'm going for three this year, right, my permit, and

1600
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 3: really make this it's a festival style. I had mothers

1601
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 3: come to me and say thank you because I couldn't

1602
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 3: afford to take my kid to an amusement park. All right,

1603
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 3: great adventions and ship like that, and you out here

1604
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 3: bringing rides, you out here doing that, so thank you,

1605
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 3: you know, and we're giving away book bags, sneakers, shirts,

1606
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 3: giving I got healthcare out there shout out the Metro

1607
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 3: Plus coming out there signing people up for healthcare. You know,

1608
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 3: I just trying to like give back at the same time.

1609
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right.

1610
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 1: You you ever thought you would have?

1611
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 5: No?

1612
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely not a lie.

1613
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: Real Okay, So we've got things for the kids, we

1614
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: got things for the.

1615
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 4: Local artists, things artists families.

1616
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: And then where's the after party at scarlets?

1617
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 4: Possibly possibly starlist possibly.

1618
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:28,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1619
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 4: In a minute, it's always. I mean, I like that,

1620
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 4: have a good time.

1621
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: You like strip clubs?

1622
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 4: A lie? I told you I lost the rolling right

1623
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 4: I was. It was home to Milly's to.

1624
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: You said you ain't you do the extra one? It

1625
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: was a mission in that night.

1626
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 3: Oh I know about the about the I wanted that

1627
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 3: mission that night.

1628
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: You have me different.

1629
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, no, but I lost it. I

1630
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 4: lost it on the comeback.

1631
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: Like I woke up.

1632
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 3: It was gone.

1633
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 4: Like the girl that was the room with me, she

1634
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 4: was gone, Yeah, she was going. The watch was gone.

1635
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 4: You know, I learned my lesson. Yeah, you got this.

1636
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: Listen.

1637
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes you take bumps and bruises on the journey.

1638
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: For sure. You know we're still here. Say what?

1639
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1640
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: No, she was gone, nigga. I woke up.

1641
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, gone one thirty two in the morning.

1642
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm going out of here, only gone.

1643
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: We've seen you on Love of Hip Hop? Are you

1644
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: actually because did we heard you say you're getting married

1645
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 1: on the radio? Is this actually? I want to get married?

1646
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 5: Man?

1647
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: I believe you.

1648
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 4: It's gonna happen.

1649
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 1: I believe you.

1650
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. I'm gonna set the date first, though.

1651
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: Oh, you ain't even set the date. My information is wrong.

1652
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: So last year, last year, you gotta understand what's happening.

1653
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: Understand me. Okay, I'm here.

1654
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 4: Last year I set a date or you did set

1655
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 4: a date for you twenty six?

1656
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 1: Okay. I went.

1657
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 3: To Robbie Suits and picked out a TUXI though. Okay,

1658
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 3: I went and sat with a wedding planner. Okay, I

1659
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 3: went to Masa and picked out a ring. I did

1660
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 3: all this before I even had a wedding or like

1661
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 3: a like a like a like a.

1662
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 1: Bride to be.

1663
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 4: Damn, I did that first, and that's how I want

1664
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 4: to do it.

1665
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a You're gonna set up the party

1666
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: and then bring I'm gonna set it up and then

1667
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 3: all she got to do is show up. Yeah, i'na ma,

1668
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make my life, not just anybody. I'm gonna

1669
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 3: make my life easier. And if need be, I'll have

1670
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: what what what the bridesmaids already there for you.

1671
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: You got pre picked base.

1672
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never heard all my own girls.

1673
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: This might be. This might be the most genius ship

1674
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: I've ever heard.

1675
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 3: Keep yeah, yeah, this is this is a reality show myself.

1676
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 3: He sounds nothing is impossible. My brother believe that, trust me.

1677
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 3: So he could be the person that marries you guys. Yeah,

1678
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 3: you appreciate We're.

1679
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 4: Gonna get preaching in his mind? Who else is the preacher?

1680
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: You get to do it?

1681
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 4: Who else?

1682
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: I feel like ray j is a preacher too. Mace

1683
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: may definitely can do it. And we got one more

1684
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: daddy Yankee. I think, oh yeah, she's a preacher. I

1685
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: just think Christian. Just roll with it, man, if you're

1686
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: a Christian, you appreciate it. Just roll with it.

1687
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:40,839
Speaker 4: Christian appreachier.

1688
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: You can do it. You've got the good book. You

1689
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: can do it straight up, if you believe you can

1690
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: do it. So, oh man, that's who I was looking

1691
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: for now. He's yes, if you.

1692
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 4: If you believe in the law. You can preach he

1693
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 4: married a preacher.

1694
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: No, he married pusher married he.

1695
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,839
Speaker 4: He got he married.

1696
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: Got just sounded crazy at my at my wedding, I'm

1697
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: appreciately gonna fly fly down. Oh like.

1698
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 5: So like.

1699
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 2: That man.

1700
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: Character, you're gonna fly down with Louis Vuitton on and

1701
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: all that.

1702
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: Okay, I need one of them niggas.

1703
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: So you really got a wedding plan.

1704
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna replant it because I didn't make it this

1705
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 3: July twenty six, that was last year. So I'm announce

1706
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: a new date for this year.

1707
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: But you have a woman? Correct?

1708
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he's announcing the show without there's no woman. Okay.

1709
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: So because I heard they say, like, that's what they say,

1710
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: and that's why they say at the weddings, and this

1711
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: this woman because it could be anybody, like or they

1712
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: say this loyal methic man because they have to tuxtedos

1713
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: for anybody to go in there. Like I never heard

1714
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: of this, Like how you.

1715
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 4: This is different.

1716
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 1: It's different. It's different. This is different. Who will be

1717
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: your best man at your wedding?

1718
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 4: I'll have a couple, a couple, a few best men.

1719
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 1: We have some rappers and regulars. Let's name.

1720
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 4: We gotta do ship out of the box.

1721
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 1: Bro.

1722
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 4: We can't do the same thing over and over.

1723
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 3: Man. So I have a two A couple of homies.

1724
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 4: Lobby boys. Yeah, lobby boys.

1725
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: I like that.

1726
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 3: Like that.

1727
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 4: Let's drink to that drink that Okay, definitely it would

1728
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 4: be fab Okay, Jim, okay, okay, yep?

1729
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: Why not? Guy? What what?

1730
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 2: What?

1731
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: What Uncle Murder make your wedding party? Uncle Murder?

1732
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 4: I love Uncle Murder.

1733
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no

1734
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: no no no.

1735
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 4: I love Uncle Murder.

1736
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Many.

1737
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 4: I love Uncle Murder.

1738
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 3: That's my brother. I love home mur We started this

1739
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 3: ship together. Restect that we started this ship together. Like

1740
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 3: it it's main o Uncle Murder records that go all

1741
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 3: the way back.

1742
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 4: To two thousand and five.

1743
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:02,440
Speaker 3: Wow, it was main old Uncle Murder. Oppon and Noriega

1744
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 3: pound like yellow tape is classic, you know what I mean?

1745
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 3: But I just think, you know, circumstances and time. I

1746
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 3: don't want I don't want to say redefine our relationship

1747
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 3: because I still feel like because me and that we

1748
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 3: never even had an argument.

1749
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: Ever.

1750
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 4: I still feel like the respect is there. But you know,

1751
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 4: he with fifty and you understand what being with fifty.

1752
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 3: He requires loyalty, he requires a like the sense of

1753
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: loyalsy like nigga, you bet not. But you know he

1754
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: is different. You know at this point right now, we

1755
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: I don't think what we got with fifty is serious.

1756
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 3: I think that that's just for him. It's definitely. I

1757
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 3: think he's somewhere like laughing at the same time fifty

1758
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 3: when he like throwing little shots at niggas or whatever. Yeah,

1759
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: but I think for murder.

1760
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 5: His this is what.

1761
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,560
Speaker 1: Changed his life and that has to be respected. So

1762
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: it is what it is.

1763
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1764
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 1: I respect that. I hope I hope y'all get it

1765
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: together to like no, no, we don't have no no.

1766
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: I love y'all together. Like if there's another album that

1767
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: could be made, y'all say, yeah, I would.

1768
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 3: I would like to hear it, bro, But I don't

1769
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: know if that I don't know in the climate if

1770
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 3: that could actually happen. You know what I mean. If

1771
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: we talked about loyalty, and we talked about picking our sides,

1772
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 3: and it's understandable when size are picked. I don't have

1773
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 3: no problem with the nigga that picked his side. I

1774
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 3: understand that I respect it, you see what I'm saying.

1775
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 3: And I had a relationship with fifty.

1776
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: We were super cool because he has something to do

1777
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: with putting you on as well.

1778
01:25:55,080 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, absolutely, I was signed online. I was signing

1779
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: a university. We talked about that.

1780
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: We talked about that. The universalis dropped me. I was

1781
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: back in the hook, back in the hood.

1782
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 3: I was at Ryo House on mon Road between No

1783
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 3: Shit and Massy and his basement, recording records.

1784
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: In the hood.

1785
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it out. Fifty at that point

1786
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: had a relationship with my brother eighty eighty called me

1787
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 3: and said, look, I'm up here. I'm in I'm in

1788
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: fifty office with him right now. We're kicking it. Next thing,

1789
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 3: you know, and within an hour, I'm getting phone calls

1790
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: from Atlanta. Yo, you got a meeting. Yeah, they called

1791
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 3: me from Atlantic, got a meeting. They want me up

1792
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 3: at Atlantic. What happened was Fifty asked him to say, Yo,

1793
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 3: what y'all doing? Like you know what I mean, He's like,

1794
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: you know, we were talking to Atlantic because I had

1795
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 3: at that point, once I got dropped to the Universe

1796
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 3: from University, we was in.

1797
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: Talks with Atlantic. Yeah, but you know how them talk.

1798
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: So and let me ask you what regime is that

1799
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: in the land. Is that Craig Cowman, Is that Julie

1800
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: greenwalk like or that's just it's Craig Cawman. But all

1801
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: those people together, okay, okay together the old depth jam

1802
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: coming over?

1803
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, seven okay. Fifty said to my brother a, Yo,

1804
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 3: you want me to call over there? Yeah, they talking,

1805
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 3: but they act like they won't do something and did

1806
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 3: it yet?

1807
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: What's up?

1808
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 3: They called over there.

1809
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 4: And tell them? Yo, let me speak to Craig. Get

1810
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 4: Craig on the phone.

1811
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 2: Yo.

1812
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: Look what you're doing with manow Yeah you know we're talking.

1813
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: Listen if you if I could do it, I would

1814
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 3: do it. He's got their movement. Yeah, that's the niggas.

1815
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 4: Hung their phone up.

1816
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 3: There was on my line. By the time they hung

1817
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 3: their phone up, I was I was getting called into

1818
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 3: a meeting. That's how powerful he was influence you.

1819
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: He was so for me.

1820
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 4: I always had a when it came to that.

1821
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 3: That's real, right, I'm a nigga that I ain't. I

1822
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 3: don't never forget that type of shit now, mind you, Right,

1823
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 3: I got people upset about the relationship that me and

1824
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 3: him building at that time. At that time, my son

1825
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 3: his mother, right, his mother is upset about that because

1826
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 3: her brother is the person.

1827
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: That they blamed for shooting him. Wow.

1828
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you talk about Homo, that's my son's uncle.

1829
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 3: My son's name Zaine Daryl Coleman. Darl was his name.

1830
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I never met him though, so I didn't. I didn't

1831
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: feel the.

1832
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: Like a like a like a connection to that. Like

1833
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 3: I just felt like that was the circumstances. And you know,

1834
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 3: and out of respect, I get it that that's the family,

1835
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But the relationship that me

1836
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 3: and him was building, you know, I was it was

1837
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 3: like what, like, nigga, you helped me? So I never

1838
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 3: I never forgot that, you see what I'm saying, Like

1839
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 3: that was something that I always kept with me like

1840
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 3: this nigga that and I never and that's all you

1841
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 3: got to do for a nigga like me. I'm not

1842
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm not asking for no song, I'm not asking for

1843
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 3: nothing else that you did enough, you know.

1844
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, so, and even still.

1845
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 3: With the relationship that me and him was building at

1846
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: that time, I still was hearing shit like oh how

1847
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 3: could you you know, be it you know, fuck with

1848
01:29:54,920 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 3: somebody that you know, your your son's family and I

1849
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:02,799
Speaker 3: didn't you know, I didn't.

1850
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 4: Get it, but you know what it was, what it was,

1851
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 4: that's a crazy connection, man, right.

1852
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: And then what did T I have to do? I

1853
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: know we spoke about it earlier. What did T I

1854
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: have to do at the beginning of your career?

1855
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: Was that?

1856
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: What did he come in in Atlantic? Chip?

1857
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chip was definitely helpful. Chip wanted to sign me

1858
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 3: the Grand Hustle. That didn't actually work out, So I

1859
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 3: never fully signed the Grand Hustle, but I was that was.

1860
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: The time they had the big dude but on country

1861
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: can yeah.

1862
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 4: Country shout out the country can Country can Yeah?

1863
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1864
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: I never I never signed to Groundhustle. We talked about it.

1865
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 3: We were trying to figure out what that was. Because

1866
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 3: what happened was Atlantic was signing me direct, you know,

1867
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 3: And sometimes I think like, maybe, like if you were

1868
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 3: have did it T I didn't had to be through him,

1869
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 3: And you're saying.

1870
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 4: Right, right, they were signing me direct.

1871
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it was a better bet. I'm trying to say, like,

1872
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: it's not it's not it's not. No, it was no,

1873
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: it was no cut, it was no cutting. It was us.

1874
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 4: It was hustle hard directly with the line.

1875
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Right now, you you recently had a picture with Jay

1876
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 1: right and it looked like you was relieved for some reason.

1877
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: It looked like he was like, yo, man, I follow you.

1878
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: I felt like, this is me speculating. I felt like

1879
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: you had to tell him something at that very moment.

1880
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: And after that moment was the picture. Now I'm speculating.

1881
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 4: But told me he watched the show. This is when

1882
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 4: Kitchen Talk was out.

1883
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: Okay. I was surprised about that, right, I was. He

1884
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: watches everything.

1885
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 3: I was super surprised. M So that's that what that

1886
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 3: moment was like he was telling me, oh, man, I

1887
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 3: watched the show. Like I'm like, what you watched everything?

1888
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: You watched me?

1889
01:31:58,680 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 7: Nigga?

1890
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 4: You know, I mean this is a whole you know,

1891
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 4: we we we look at hold with a certain lens.

1892
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1893
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 1: But what happened?

1894
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 3: Why?

1895
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: Why was the even of discrepancy? Did you wasn't It

1896
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: wasn't just rumors? What did you say about hole?

1897
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 3: You gotta know that when I came in a game,

1898
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 3: I came in a game with a lot.

1899
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 1: Of like yeah, like still the wool lines like you

1900
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: want somebody to say whoo.

1901
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like talking crazy, you know, saying ship that not

1902
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 3: having somebody school me to the game.

1903
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: You see, the thing is.

1904
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: My perception the game was at that point was getting

1905
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 3: out of prison. I'm telling my niggas, Yo, we really

1906
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 3: who we say we are, We really involved with the

1907
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 3: ship that were involved with these.

1908
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: Niggas is just acting. We can be that we can

1909
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: we can we can show the world.

1910
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 3: And I had this perception of like we're gonna show them,

1911
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna out tough these niggas and out real them, right,

1912
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 3: like show the world like they not who they are

1913
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 3: and we're the genuine article. And that was that was

1914
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 3: the the most primitive thought ever because it's really dumb.

1915
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Do you think if that line would nick came out,

1916
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: you guys would embrace each other. Which line like I

1917
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: couldn't saying you like taking a shot at jail or whatever.

1918
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 3: Because I said mad Ship, Okay, I said ship about

1919
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,560
Speaker 3: Jim Jones the whole song wollams Her j was a

1920
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 3: scary dude and all this ship like we're talking about

1921
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 3: Like I literally went to Massie and ship. They was like, yo,

1922
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 3: he don't come to Massie And I'm listening to this

1923
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: dumb ship. He don't come to Massie.

1924
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 2: You know, we said that's equivalent to the fifties rock Yes.

1925
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 3: Yes, which which kind of inspired me, right of course,

1926
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 3: let's keep it real, and.

1927
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Which is inspired by Biggie's sucking the R and B bit.

1928
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But he was just talking about R and B

1929
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 4: and I'm just talking about the.

1930
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 2: So so.

1931
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Ship, I'm shooting videos because what what we're

1932
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 3: trying to do. We're trying to get attention, right, right,

1933
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 3: So they would call that trolling now right.

1934
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1935
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 4: I seen a nigga say, yo, man, no, you came

1936
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 4: into game trolling while you mad at.

1937
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: Me somebody else. I said, you're right, somebody else trolling you.

1938
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: So were you admitted to it? Yeah?

1939
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Because you know what, because when you when you feel

1940
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 3: like there's no other options, you do what you feel like.

1941
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 4: You got to survival.

1942
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1943
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 4: My very first record, l A l A's just arguably

1944
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 4: one of the biggest.

1945
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: L one of the true we're just supposed to agree

1946
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: like that, but arguably one of the very first troll

1947
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: records because we had never even been to l A.

1948
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Like we we ain't leave Jamaica Avenue let alone Jamaica

1949
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: like we were. We didn't even know what l A

1950
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: smelled like, been on.

1951
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 4: The planet for twenty five years, like, oh my god.

1952
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 1: So we made l A and we never even knew

1953
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: a kind of like we were talking about and I

1954
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 1: tell you this, I'll.

1955
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 2: Tell you this, but you didn't go hard.

1956
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: We didn't because it's the hook. But I'm agreeing with him.

1957
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying like that was that, that was that attention,

1958
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 1: like real quick, and we got it real quick, and

1959
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: the New York big had our back.

1960
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 3: When you feel like you ain't got no other options,

1961
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 3: well hold up.

1962
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 4: Sorry to country, but Tim Dogs the first fu content.

1963
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 4: Oh ship, that's the fun.

1964
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1965
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 4: Shout him.

1966
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 3: Got Tim dog rest. Yeah he died, Tim Dogg died,

1967
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 3: did Yeah. I gotta stop the ship, y'all going back there.

1968
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 3: You gotta be honest, you just.

1969
01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 4: We're gonna.

1970
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 1: John think.

1971
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tim Doll died. Oh see, this is how fucked

1972
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 4: up our world is.

1973
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: Someone knows the fact out. I agree with the fact

1974
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: that someone said, no, that's not a fact, and we

1975
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 2: all fucked us in real life.

1976
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 3: Was really fucked up is that we didn't know he passed. Yeah,

1977
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 3: I remember when God bless him.

1978
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: As crazy as I was doing mad restart showing you right,

1979
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: and I went online, I've seen an interview from you

1980
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: from six years ago. Interview for you six years ago.

1981
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: It was envy was y'all was playing around, but it

1982
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: was like he kind of kept bringing up like street share,

1983
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: street street ship. But I'm not gonna say that that part.

1984
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: The part that intrigued me was like, you start talking

1985
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: about Nipsey Hustle, and I believe your words was man

1986
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: that if that shit could happen to Nipsey Hustle, Uh,

1987
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: it could happen. You know, do you think that was

1988
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: a mistake for Nipsey going back to the hood?

1989
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 4: Is was it a mistake for him to be back?

1990
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: I mean for him to be invested in the hood

1991
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 1: like that now just wanted It's like like you just said, right,

1992
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: you said you gave coach back to the hood.

1993
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 3: You got this main old day, like, but I still

1994
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: go do things though.

1995
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I know that I'm asking this particular

1996
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: because you know, we actually got a run with Nipsey

1997
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: Hustle's brother, Black Sam and Marathon. I'm doing it February

1998
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: twenty first in LA You know, what I'm saying, and

1999
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: this is something I'm asking you as a as as

2000
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: a as a as an East Coaster, as a federal legend,

2001
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 1: do you think that that was a mistake for Nipsey

2002
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: invested into the hood? What I mean by investing, I

2003
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: mean his time and I mean the actual star like

2004
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: having it there.

2005
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 3: We only will say that in hindsight, mm hmm. We

2006
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 3: only we only will say that because of what happened.

2007
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 3: If had that not happened, we would be like, yo,

2008
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 3: he a real nigga.

2009
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 4: We would salute him for what he's doing. We would

2010
01:37:58,439 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 4: commend him for that.

2011
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 3: You know, we will be like, yo, he's he's in

2012
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 3: the community, he's giving back to the community. He cares

2013
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 3: about the community. So I don't I can't say that

2014
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 3: that was a mistake. I feel like that that was

2015
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 3: a that was an incident that reminds you that what

2016
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 3: could happen because it's accessible, right when you're so accessible

2017
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 3: and the mentality of of of the hood, you know,

2018
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 3: can you.

2019
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 4: Can you blame the community? Straight up?

2020
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 2: I think that you can possibly happen if he invested

2021
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 2: somewhere else, the will it'll.

2022
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 3: Follow you any We can't blame the community, especially because

2023
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 3: generally speaking, he was loved.

2024
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 4: Right, generally speaking, I'm loved in my community.

2025
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: Like so the issue could go anywhere, but you have

2026
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 1: you got that one person.

2027
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 4: You got those one those two people that.

2028
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 3: So upset with their lives, so upset with the what

2029
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 3: they see in the mirror, that they hate you more

2030
01:38:55,479 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 3: than they hate their situation. Right, they would, they they

2031
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 3: would spend more time, you know, on on on how

2032
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 3: to you off, then put energy into fixing that situation.

2033
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 2: But my question is this, if had he done the

2034
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 2: same thing in Santa Monica and then and people knew

2035
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 2: he was there daily, might not.

2036
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: The same thing?

2037
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 3: Right, Right, what you're saying is right, anything happened anywhere,

2038
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 3: you can't blame you can't blanket blame their community as

2039
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 3: a whole, because when it.

2040
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: Goes back to what we said earlier, cut you off.

2041
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: But the streets is.

2042
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: Because the most let's think about the streets, Let's think

2043
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 3: about our ghettos. The majority of our ghettos are filled

2044
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:53,799
Speaker 3: with working class families that that don't adhere to street rules.

2045
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 3: Those mothers, those fathers that get up so right right

2046
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 3: and to work, get on the train, get on the

2047
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 3: bus to.

2048
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 4: Go to work, right, they got kids.

2049
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 3: They not part of the streets. The streets is a

2050
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 3: small community of people that come from there, right, that

2051
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 3: kind of delve into a certain lifestyle. Everybody that's from

2052
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 3: your project, So your block wasn't into the shit that.

2053
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: You was doing.

2054
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 3: It was a small portion of people. When you think

2055
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 3: about the largest scheme of things, everybody is not like,

2056
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 3: come on, think about your building. How many people in

2057
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 3: your building really was selling drugs?

2058
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 4: Not even half.

2059
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 3: How many people in your building was really shooting shit,

2060
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 3: not even half, not even half everybody. You know, drugs

2061
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 3: affected a lot of our families, but everybody didn't fall victim.

2062
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 4: And that's the thing.

2063
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 3: You get older, you understart to understand that it's a

2064
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 3: little of the mentality.

2065
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: When I was younger, I used to go to church

2066
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: in forty projects, right, and I used to meet with

2067
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 1: these women. I mean, like you know, the churchwoman, a

2068
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: church woman, and they used to go back to forty projects.

2069
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: They never knew they lived in the hood at all, right,

2070
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 1: people carrying their bags, like you know, they grocery bags.

2071
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: So these ladies was like they never.

2072
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 3: Looked at it, like they were in understanding. Because when

2073
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 3: you don't have anything to measure it against. Yeah, you

2074
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 3: don't have nothing to compare it to. If you lived

2075
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 3: in dark all this time and never seeing light, you

2076
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 3: would figure out how to make the best of the dark.

2077
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 4: You wouldn't have nothing to compare it to.

2078
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 3: You.

2079
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be like, oh my god, it's light.

2080
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 3: You don't know light.

2081
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 4: All you know is the dog.

2082
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 3: So the pain that comes from being in an impolished

2083
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 3: neighborhood doesn't start to feel like pain unless you have

2084
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 3: something something to compare it to.

2085
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to a couple of your records. Let's go

2086
01:41:58,240 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 1: through some more.

2087
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 2: Damn that did look good, bro, looked crazy. I pictured

2088
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 2: some little last day.

2089
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: This was, Yeah, I was happy. People are flying in

2090
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 1: for all over there.

2091
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 4: That was It was like a wait, so how did

2092
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:13,759
Speaker 4: it get destroyed?

2093
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 1: I think someone backed up into it, like May Odd

2094
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: with cool herks.

2095
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 4: That I minished something that I never admitted.

2096
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: You have to figure do you do work on drink Chat?

2097
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: And I hope you come and you got to get

2098
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 1: him a new school and all man, okay, you're gonna

2099
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: remember my name. Yeah, gotta be one of your hardest. Yeah.

2100
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 3: I had like fighters that come out to that make

2101
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 3: me remember money, Damn.

2102
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I ain't thinking of that. That is a fighting song. Yeah,

2103
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: we gotta put that on a run camp ship. Yeah yeah,

2104
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,799
Speaker 1: yeah inspiration. So where was you that men? Mentally?

2105
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 4: First album?

2106
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: Man, you know, I'm not not glazing you, but let

2107
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: me let you know how hard your first album is.

2108
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: I was high when I downloaded it. I downloaded the

2109
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: clean version and never knew, like, just kept playing and

2110
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: then I played it like in a barber somewhere and

2111
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you got the clean version. I

2112
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even know. That's how hard. I

2113
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: was so satisfied. I was very very from where you come.

2114
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: And then listening to that, that was That's one of

2115
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: a perfect album.

2116
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 3: First album was with they say, you spend your lifetime

2117
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 3: making your first album, as they say, because you're talking

2118
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 3: about your truth, your energy, your life and all that,

2119
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 3: your childhood, you know, turning into an adult, whatever you've

2120
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 3: been through in that time. And then you make your

2121
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 3: first album and after that everything else else. After that

2122
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,600
Speaker 3: you're trying to figure it out, like a crack the

2123
01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 3: first high.

2124
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they keep chasing. That's absolute, absolutely yeah. So so

2125
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: remember my name, what's your mentality? Where you at what

2126
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 1: studio you.

2127
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 3: At I'm in, I'm in, I mean blast off studio.

2128
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 3: That sounds like a pause.

2129
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: That doesn't sounds like a pause, but it sounds.

2130
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 4: Like blast off studios.

2131
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't want to ask.

2132
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 4: That's at yeah Times Square.

2133
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 3: You know, and and you know it's at that at

2134
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 3: that point, like I felt like I had to point

2135
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 3: to pool musically, like I'm trying to come with the

2136
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 3: streets shipped and energy pains, you know what I mean,

2137
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 3: and and and but trying to paint a picture, you know.

2138
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: Uh Now, in the Tupac movie, Tupac movie, you play

2139
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 1: the names that kid Tupac. Yeah, yeah, weird, like when

2140
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: you go on the West Coast, Like.

2141
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 4: You know, how many people I don't funk with you?

2142
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 4: As you shot too?

2143
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, is a movie? Yeah?

2144
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 7: You know?

2145
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 3: People was mad behind that shot, you know, like, I

2146
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 3: really don't Did you shoot him?

2147
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 1: On you? I shot him in the movie?

2148
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 4: Sounds crazy? I did shoot him in the movie. Yeah,

2149
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 4: I shot too, Yeah, so I shot Come on, man,

2150
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 4: I'm crazy.

2151
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 1: I shot to B in the movie.

2152
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 4: In the movie.

2153
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 1: But your pause is wild, all right, Hold hold on.

2154
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 4: I shot to pop shot in the movie. I shot

2155
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 4: too in the movie shot. It was the movie though.

2156
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: I always wanted to ask you that because, like Park

2157
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: is not a regular dude like now you have. If

2158
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: you're a Park fan, you're like a Trump supporter. Yeah,

2159
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 1: get you away hard, yeah, die hard.

2160
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 3: Yes, fanatic niggas in my comments, Listen, I stopped working

2161
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 3: with you ever since I seen you shoot Tupac. What

2162
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 3: you what You can't even be mad at that? It's like, yeah,

2163
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 3: you do know it was just a light wee. You

2164
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 3: couldn't when the movie came out. You know, I just

2165
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 3: had a little part, right.

2166
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: You think this is a rat video? You think this

2167
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 1: is a rat video.

2168
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 4: We told you, nigga, to let it down, right.

2169
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 3: I rented a whole movie theater, oh theater, whole theater,

2170
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 3: like the whole the whole room, like seventy two hundred whatever.

2171
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 3: The sease was rented it out, you know what I mean,

2172
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 3: just for that part. You know, had the whole boss

2173
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: set up like it was crazy, you know, go, yeah,

2174
01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 3: we had to overdo it.

2175
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. The problem with that, that's not it's

2176
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:05,640
Speaker 1: not a problem with that scene, but that scene is

2177
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 1: it's real good dudes, this is Brooklyn, dudes in there

2178
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 1: was you ever skeptical.

2179
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 4: Studio shooting that?

2180
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 1: Yes, what shooting? You thought?

2181
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 4: In my mind right now, they never depicted that. They

2182
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 4: never depicted what that looked like.

2183
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Right, So all right, because obviously Bennie Boom is.

2184
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 4: The director out to Benny Boom, Bennie Boom is.

2185
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 1: Actually a New York director, received slack off top from everyone.

2186
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, man, yeah, I think he's from Brooklyn, right,

2187
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: I believe he is. And then he actually hires real

2188
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Brooklyn dudes to play the bad Brooklyn guy roll like

2189
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 1: did you read that, and be like, wait a minute, yeah.

2190
01:47:59,360 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 4: How this happened?

2191
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 2: Listen?

2192
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 3: I was in the zone. I was in the zone

2193
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 3: so hard that the nigga that looked like the nigga

2194
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 3: play like that played it pop.

2195
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 4: I was asking him, was he okay, am I hurting you,

2196
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 4: my nigga?

2197
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 3: Because Boom told me to just be your natural self.

2198
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 3: I was in that position and I was losing it.

2199
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 3: The ship that I'm saying, you go back and listen

2200
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 3: to that movie. Everything that I'm saying in that movie,

2201
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 3: none of it was in the script.

2202
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be.

2203
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you think this is a rap video, nigga?

2204
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 4: You know what happened to rappers that think this is

2205
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 4: a fucking video.

2206
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was crazy, Like it was crazy. I was.

2207
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 3: I was someone else and I remember like, like, you're okay, bro,

2208
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 3: because I was. I felt like I was a method actor.

2209
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: I was.

2210
01:48:58,560 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 3: I was.

2211
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 4: I was on a set with the with the grip

2212
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 4: the whole time, like he was ready.

2213
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: For those of that don't know what the method actor

2214
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 1: is as a person who stays in character the whole yea,

2215
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 1: they go on the set, not break character. They tell

2216
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: you if his if his name was Matt Joy, they say,

2217
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: you got to call him, you got to call him

2218
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,639
Speaker 1: the character. Character.

2219
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2220
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: Act For those that don't know, And so now you

2221
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: went to the movie the that this comes out, what

2222
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,560
Speaker 1: is the reaction besides these guys on Twitter like is this?

2223
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, people gonna let assume my come Like.

2224
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 3: My mom's mad. She resid sitting right next to me

2225
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: in front of the movie even though it's ultra violet.

2226
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, You know your mom's gonna

2227
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 3: root for you regardless.

2228
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: I bet my mom to the movie there that when

2229
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 1: I was smashing in the movie, I forgot Christmas.

2230
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 4: I was mad.

2231
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 1: I was mad.

2232
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, for good, I.

2233
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 1: Got this smart and I'm gonna looking and my mom's

2234
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 1: like the whole movie the same way.

2235
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 3: But so.

2236
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: I know we spoke about it earlier with the acting,

2237
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: But is that something and I know you said you

2238
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: like producing more? Yeah, but is that something you're gonna

2239
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: you would.

2240
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 3: Like to pursue acting or they want to produce?

2241
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 2: Ye?

2242
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know about about you definitely right.

2243
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 4: Don't want to step outside of you as a.

2244
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 3: Step outside of what people think they generally know about me,

2245
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 3: think you know, just going or like the gangster role.

2246
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 4: You know, the acting is like it's a lot of

2247
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 4: work mm hmm, and it takes up a lot of time.

2248
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 1: So it's like I.

2249
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,799
Speaker 3: Want to be involved with the think tank. Let's figure

2250
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 3: out this movie. Let's you know, let's sit down, let's

2251
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 3: write it out. Got how to produce, Let's figure ou

2252
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 3: how to get it funded. I'm I'm more or less

2253
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 3: in that space than it is to me just pursuing acting,

2254
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 3: me getting an Asian and just going, you know, reading

2255
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 3: for roles. I don't want to just do that.

2256
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 1: Okay, agent Asian, I think you're going to get an Asian.

2257
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 3: I want to get Asian for that, definitely, not for

2258
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 3: that asient.

2259
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: Didn't you have a show called Star Tenders.

2260
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 3: Or I did it.

2261
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 4: I did a documentary like a.

2262
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,799
Speaker 1: Porn it's like about the something against.

2263
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 4: Something against porn.

2264
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:37,839
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was like about the bartender.

2265
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 4: That's a question, you know, like p I'm good the

2266
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,480
Speaker 4: poor capital of the world, all right, cool Miami.

2267
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah they don't. They blocked you porn.

2268
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 2: Everybody here work for a porn company and one point

2269
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 2: or at least my only fans.

2270
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so so so the documentary so that I did

2271
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 4: a documentary is called.

2272
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 3: A dill out of Time, a doll out of time,

2273
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 3: and it's it's about the strip club culture in New

2274
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 3: York City or how people coming to the strip clubs

2275
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 3: in New York City. They ain't coming to see the dancer.

2276
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: They come to see the bartender.

2277
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: That's that's that's all little secret though.

2278
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it's about that I share. It's

2279
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 3: about how like I produced that. Okay, shout out to

2280
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 3: my man Jay J. Rober Rodriguez because he's, you know,

2281
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 3: mastermind that with me, people come to the strip club

2282
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 3: in New York to see the popping star tender or

2283
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 3: bartender or whatever. Our city is a little bit different.

2284
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 3: They're not coming really so much for the dancers. It's

2285
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 3: about that lit bartender.

2286
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 1: What makes her lit?

2287
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 4: Though the following what I'm saying is that the drinks.

2288
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 3: It's her, it's her, it's her, it's You got lit

2289
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 3: bartenders in New York City that people, It's like they

2290
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 3: have a certain order about themselves.

2291
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 1: That people. Yeah, it's a real thing. It's a real thing.

2292
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 3: When you think about Starlet's Starlis is a a is

2293
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 3: a pretty well known strip club worldwide. You got you

2294
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 3: got people that come to Starlets from across the world.

2295
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 3: They come to New York and they say, oh, we

2296
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 3: want to see Tom Square and you know what else

2297
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:20,640
Speaker 3: we want to see starlets?

2298
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 4: Damn and you you know what made Stalus apartment.

2299
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,839
Speaker 3: It's not not the dancer. It was always the bartender.

2300
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 3: It was always and only about the bartenders when it

2301
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 3: came to that. So that was what the documentary is about,

2302
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 3: is about that culture.

2303
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:42,560
Speaker 1: It's different in Miami. You don't give as New York, nowhere.

2304
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 3: Else, nowhere else on this planet as a bartender that revered. Wow,

2305
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 3: I didn't notice that that is that is strictly it's

2306
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 3: specifically a New York thing.

2307
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 2: I wonder how that deployment works, like how they trade

2308
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 2: off those contracts.

2309
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 4: Oh, look at bag girls? Yeah that was I shot

2310
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:08,799
Speaker 4: that in Detroit.

2311
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: Let me see the bag girls. Yeah? So all right,

2312
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: who got the better strip clubs? Miami or New York? What? What?

2313
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:21,640
Speaker 3: What?

2314
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 1: What that inform makes you? Just like Miami? You're seeing

2315
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: pussy like that wasn't like what you get shut away

2316
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: from it. I forgot that part.

2317
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 4: Like you're singing like it's it's real. You can't really

2318
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 4: compare it.

2319
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 1: I think. I think, guess why the bartenders are more famous.

2320
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 2: We got great partenders down here too.

2321
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 4: Bro, what you're all talking about?

2322
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I think the New York thing.

2323
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 3: I think I think the New York thing. I think

2324
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 3: it's the mystique of them. I think it's the low

2325
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 3: of them. I think it's the fantasy of them because

2326
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 3: you see them on Instagram, of the bars you think

2327
01:54:58,280 --> 01:54:59,839
Speaker 3: you think of, like Burnice Burgos.

2328
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: You heard her, Yeah, makes to make like a million

2329
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: almost a year. Where is she come from? She comes

2330
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 1: from Stallus. Damn, I ain't know that.

2331
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 4: That's how you know her?

2332
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 3: She she created a brand that started in Stallus and

2333
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 3: then she was smart enough to build on that brand.

2334
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 3: But she worked in Starless for I think two years

2335
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 3: and made a name for herself. That's how popular these

2336
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 3: girls get in New York City strip club.

2337
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 2: All Right, So a person coming saying they kind of

2338
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 2: like strippers too in a sense.

2339
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they pretty much.

2340
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 4: The same strippers. They look like stripper.

2341
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So a person just coming to New York and

2342
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: they want to have a good time. What strip clubs?

2343
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: They frequent starts. We already know that, we.

2344
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 3: Already know Styllis. But the quietly the best strip club

2345
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 3: in New York. And no, damn, you gotta come home,

2346
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 3: you gotta come home soon. Ain't been around for fifteen years.

2347
01:55:56,720 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Out of the games, out h River, Yarra's River.

2348
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 3: It's quietly been the best strip club this whole time.

2349
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 3: They don't do no promotions, they don't do no artists,

2350
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 3: they don't give who you is. You ain't coming, you

2351
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 3: gotta take your hat off. Quietly they've been the best.

2352
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: And and it's late night.

2353
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 4: They probably don't close about nine o'clock in the morning.

2354
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 1: Of course, Queen, I want you to say that every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2355
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how.

2356
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 4: Definitely Little.

2357
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah's name of the top five we got starlets?

2358
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we ever name three more sugar Daddy, I ain't

2359
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 3: been a sugar that.

2360
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.

2361
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 4: Where is that Queen's Everything Queen dream?

2362
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 6: Right?

2363
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: No, where's that?

2364
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 4: That's not way too that's all? And like everything is

2365
01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 4: in the l I c Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2366
01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 4: I been to that one long.

2367
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2368
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 3: Every everything is kind of like in that area. Okay,

2369
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 3: you know, and what else I want to say? Dream? Okay,

2370
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 3: dream right some Queens Boulevard?

2371
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Okay, uh uh?

2372
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 4: Perfection?

2373
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Which one of your niggas said that?

2374
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 4: Which one take from you said? Perfection? Perfection ain't been

2375
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 4: my nigga. Damn, your niggas ain't been in New York.

2376
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: Your niggas ain't been.

2377
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 4: I see this is crazy. Miami living is good.

2378
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: What was that strip club that was next to the block,

2379
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 1: like booth go, no, not go to the lady. I'm

2380
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 1: waiting to go to the lady with case slid yeh

2381
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 1: was ten deep and we got to talk about that.

2382
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 1: But no, I'm talking about on the same block. It

2383
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 1: was on the on the on them like not Sin

2384
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 1: City they have. I'm looking for I'm out of the loops.

2385
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 1: The Bronx used to be the king at the strip

2386
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: clubs when I and like that's what Sue was.

2387
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 3: Sus was up there like yeah, yeah, that was a

2388
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 3: different time.

2389
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 1: That was a different time.

2390
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 3: That was before the influence of the South. Okay, and

2391
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 3: with the influence of the South, but the music, the

2392
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 3: culture change. So the strip clubs that we got now

2393
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 3: is not light those Okay, it's different, even though we

2394
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 3: have our own version of it.

2395
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 1: It's not like that.

2396
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 3: It's not like Golden Lady or Sin City and none

2397
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 3: of that. It's like bartender driven. You know, it's heavy,

2398
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 3: you know, heavy b b L right, you know, and

2399
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's it's heavy.

2400
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: Queens that means BBL means like but you know what

2401
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 1: bb Come on, let's take a shot. Shot you think

2402
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna take a shot. Yeah, Oh okay, okay,

2403
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 1: not to kill her, but let's talk about you drinking tequilla?

2404
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 1: Are you a tequilla drinker? Is that your go to drink?

2405
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 1: Like you're going to start this it's that night of

2406
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: river ere you go in order to kill her, because

2407
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: to kill us, they said to kill you.

2408
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think tequila is the hot drink.

2409
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 4: It's very healthy, you know. Yeah, I feel like it's

2410
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 4: the hot drinks.

2411
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 3: Everybody's doing it, like in nineteen forty two Don Julio

2412
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 3: Riversido or Classia Zoo, like it's the thing to do.

2413
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's it's like a fatt it's cool.

2414
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 2: You know.

2415
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:49,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I don't know why. Yeah, they

2416
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:50,920
Speaker 3: say it's a gove is that?

2417
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 7: Is that what?

2418
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know?

2419
01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 4: Health benefit?

2420
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well well no te quilla is I know drink.

2421
01:59:58,560 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 4: I drink it straight though.

2422
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm saying chase up. Yeah. So they say

2423
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: no alcohol is good, but the clean, the clean, cleanest

2424
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 1: alcohol is to killer. Really they said, yeah, oh, I

2425
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 1: thought it was vodka.

2426
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 4: Number three said that.

2427
02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 2: They used to say that.

2428
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: I believe it was to Believe red wine. Really, so

2429
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 1: I can't have this.

2430
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 4: Number one is tequila. That's about this.

2431
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a professional because I heard ka before. Noo

2432
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 1: is like number three, trust me, that was my joint.

2433
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah wow. So you're not on

2434
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,920
Speaker 1: that organic ship organic what like organic?

2435
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 3: Uh?

2436
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 1: Because people would be like I'm organic, just like that organic. Yeah,

2437
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: you don't know. That's what. I didn't even know. I

2438
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 1: even heard that.

2439
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:53,240
Speaker 4: That's Miami ship even though no, I went to l

2440
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 4: A recently.

2441
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Damn, who the hell is with me? Ship? They had

2442
02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 1: a whole what they had a whole side of the

2443
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 1: place where we went to with no alcohol tails.

2444
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 2: And you said he was coming at me when I said.

2445
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:09,880
Speaker 1: That, because they wasn't calling that. Okay, drinking joy mine

2446
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:12,879
Speaker 1: right now, I'm on that. I'm on that wine, Julio

2447
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 1: wine wine. I'm on that wine. But I'm a I'm

2448
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:21,520
Speaker 1: a hubigie drinker.

2449
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 2: Was that?

2450
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Japanese whiskey. It's it's for the it's

2451
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:29,000
Speaker 1: for the you know, if you want, if you want

2452
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: more hair on your chest, this is what we go with.

2453
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Right But then, and I like, Champagne, Champaga. You know,

2454
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:38,840
Speaker 1: Spade is the best, you know, in the case we didn't,

2455
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 1: we didn't get to that. You know, you know, we

2456
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 1: drink the Spade over here, the best in the world. Champagne.

2457
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 1: Who is your favorite new artist?

2458
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 4: New artists?

2459
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 1: I like, who's a new artist right now? We've got

2460
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, And uh, what's my man? Cash

2461
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 1: Cobain's Uh oh, this little ship is still new. Okay,

2462
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: well it changed every day.

2463
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:15,880
Speaker 3: Man, all right, what's considered new.

2464
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 4: He's been in the game a year or less, a year.

2465
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 1: Or maybe late. Yeah, damn busting out my socking. Anybody

2466
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 1: said that gave permission for that? You think you did.

2467
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: I was talking about choking wine. Bro, I'm good, I'm good, good,

2468
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: go ahead. I don't know.

2469
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 4: I like I funk with I funk with the music.

2470
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: That's that.

2471
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 2: I just like.

2472
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm a big Young Blue fan, and I want every

2473
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 3: time I say that.

2474
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 1: People be like, what I love young Blue, Young Blue? Yeah, yeah,

2475
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 1: young Blue. I got a track with this nigga, right,

2476
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 1: I called him, Yeah, I called him blue.

2477
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't know what's fun?

2478
02:02:57,960 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 1: It's blue.

2479
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 4: Let's do a shot of that and we love killed me.

2480
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 1: That was crazy us. Okay, God comes down Earth guy,

2481
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: he goes see you, and he said, man, no, you

2482
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:23,000
Speaker 1: get to make one track, and you get any feature

2483
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 1: in the world, and you get any producer in the

2484
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 1: world to produce that beat. Who is main o? And

2485
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 1: this is a two part question because we know you're

2486
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna go big, so one dad and then one ship

2487
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 1: you got you gotta Yeah, you got a two part question.

2488
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 1: So it's two parts. One is you can you can

2489
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 1: go with the dad, and then the other is the

2490
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:55,360
Speaker 1: alive feature.

2491
02:03:55,680 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 4: If I go dead, then I need poking big damn.

2492
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 1: I've never heard nobody say that that was That was

2493
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 1: a slick one. I'm gonna take out of that.

2494
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 4: Let's do that.

2495
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 1: You got me on that one. Now are people who

2496
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 1: arelive and the producer and who's producing the pocket a

2497
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 1: big record and the producer could be dead too. I'm

2498
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 1: sorry you just changed it all.

2499
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 3: Then it ain't that many dead producers.

2500
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 1: It is a producers.

2501
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 4: Don't die hip hop hip hop don't die.

2502
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 1: You're right, this is.

2503
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 3: Don't die, damn.

2504
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:28,680
Speaker 4: And if they do die, it's not by gun violence.

2505
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:32,120
Speaker 1: They are immortal, all right, Yeah they live? So who's

2506
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 1: producing that? Just blaze? I like that act all right? Now?

2507
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 1: A live feature, a love feature. But this is one

2508
02:04:57,240 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 1: of a little bit different. God is asking you saying, okay, alive, alive,

2509
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 1: but he's saying this record is gonna change humanity.

2510
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 2: Jesus christanity, He's gonna change humanity.

2511
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 4: Shoulders right now?

2512
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 2: Ch is what.

2513
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 4: Already up?

2514
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2515
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:18,720
Speaker 1: To the better place, to a better place, Bruno Marsh

2516
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 1: Western feature Now who produces that.

2517
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 4: Damn producers that they got to be like what's his name?

2518
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 3: Doctor?

2519
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 4: Oh now doctor, that would be a good one. But

2520
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 4: Quincy Jones, man, but they can't be leaving the witness man.

2521
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones left us peace. So this is these people

2522
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:47,560
Speaker 3: that's alive. Yeah, yeah, oh.

2523
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 1: All right? For real? Pharrell would be good, would be good.

2524
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,480
Speaker 1: That's what I like for Rell.

2525
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 4: I like for Rell, Bruno Mars. I like that out

2526
02:05:57,120 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 4: the box.

2527
02:05:57,480 --> 02:06:01,640
Speaker 1: I like to go after box like have you ever

2528
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 1: have it worked with?

2529
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 3: Never?

2530
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:07,160
Speaker 4: Okay, Unfortunately I wasn't that lucky. Nothing functioning.

2531
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 1: No, it would happen.

2532
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:11,200
Speaker 4: No, so pretty print it havings.

2533
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 1: So one night out here, uh nows just hanging out.

2534
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:20,480
Speaker 1: He's he went to Havoc party and I hear that

2535
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 1: you see nas Yeah, and you say, I apologize for

2536
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:31,680
Speaker 1: my brother Jim Jones. The reason everyone.

2537
02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 3: Happened because now I was like, yeah, I got something

2538
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:34,839
Speaker 3: for your man Jones.

2539
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 1: He said, oh guy, and we laughing. He was with you.

2540
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:44,000
Speaker 4: It's all good boy, like get it, it's all love,

2541
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:44,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

2542
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 3: But what happened was I told Nash, I said, listen,

2543
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 3: a really close friend of mine.

2544
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:54,880
Speaker 4: He's in love with you like this this female who

2545
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 4: is going, you know, shout out the rose.

2546
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 3: She is in love with Nas and she met Naves before,

2547
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 3: but she was just too afraid to tell him how

2548
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:10,880
Speaker 3: she felt. So she always bugging me about, hey, man,

2549
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 3: can you introduce me to Nas? Like I just want Nas.

2550
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, NAS don't want you, right, But then it's like,

2551
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm why would I say that?

2552
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 4: That's bad for me to do. I'm blocking her blessings.

2553
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 3: So one day she she called me and talking it's

2554
02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 3: no ship, and she says, I really want to speak

2555
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 3: to him. I say, yo, I'm gonna put you on

2556
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 3: the phone with Nas. And after this, the fucker ask

2557
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 3: me for ship.

2558
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 1: Okay.

2559
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 3: So one day she called me and I was like,

2560
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 3: I got Nas on the line.

2561
02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:42,720
Speaker 1: Okay. She like for real? Like for real?

2562
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:43,880
Speaker 4: I say, yeah, for real?

2563
02:07:44,360 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 1: She don't know that.

2564
02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 3: I called my homie and was like, listen, I need

2565
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 3: you to play like Nas. I said, I said, I

2566
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:59,680
Speaker 3: need you to act like Nas. Okay, just you know,

2567
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:02,760
Speaker 3: say certain certain ship that Nas will say like you

2568
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 3: know my black queen like.

2569
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 1: That did.

2570
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 4: Forgive me?

2571
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 1: Say, you know, the Nas is a knowledgeable guy.

2572
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:22,880
Speaker 3: This is Nas in it and you know, he said,

2573
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 3: all right, I got it, and he didn't get the

2574
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 3: assignment the right way.

2575
02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:29,640
Speaker 4: My homeboy.

2576
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:31,880
Speaker 3: He gets on the phone and the first thing he

2577
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:34,720
Speaker 3: says is what my black queen, my black queen, my black.

2578
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:39,680
Speaker 4: He said, yeah, my black queen, my black one.

2579
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 1: He and man who told me?

2580
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 3: Because I jumped on the line, like you nas Mama

2581
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 3: was telling you about my girl Rose and me I

2582
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 3: was telling you.

2583
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 4: That she she in love with you.

2584
02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 3: She's just afraid of you niggas. She don't know what

2585
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 3: to say to you. And he getting on the lines. Yeah,

2586
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 3: my black queen, my black queen.

2587
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 4: My black queen.

2588
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be like, yes, that's how he.

2589
02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 3: So after he's said my black queen about sixteen.

2590
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 9: Times, right because right, no, she she was just like hey,

2591
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 9: like hey, Like he was like yeah, you know, I

2592
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 9: ain't got that much time and like that, but you know,

2593
02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 9: I'm gonna get your number.

2594
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 1: From man Oh wow. She'd been waiting for him to call.

2595
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get your number from Mano and you know

2596
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 3: what I mean, and it's you know, saw I love

2597
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 3: on my black queen. And she's just like okay, I said, yea,

2598
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a number, man, like for real,

2599
02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 3: just you know, give him a call over me now

2600
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 3: and then you know what I mean.

2601
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 1: Whatever.

2602
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 3: He hangs up. I'm gonna play this ship for you,

2603
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 3: right because I haven't recorded. And she calls me back

2604
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 3: and was like, you know, I recorded that that wasn't NADS.

2605
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:44,919
Speaker 3: I said it fucking was grateful.

2606
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 4: That was fucking no.

2607
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 3: When I seen ours that day, I told him, I said, listen, yeah,

2608
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 3: don't be mad at me. I guess it was a

2609
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 3: short version. I said, listen, I set somebody up and

2610
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 3: I played like it was you. He said, Yo, you crazy,

2611
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,960
Speaker 3: You got your fucking mind, Like you know what I'm saying.

2612
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 3: Like to this day, I've never admitted that it wasn't Nas.

2613
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:09,440
Speaker 1: Just make some noise in this ship.

2614
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 4: You're such a myself let me so, let me ask.

2615
02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer, but I'm just gonna

2616
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:23,200
Speaker 1: ask because I can see people in the comment session

2617
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:27,840
Speaker 1: saying something, what's the difference between you hanging with NAS

2618
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 1: if you wouldn't hang with Max? Good question.

2619
02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 3: One is considered to be a real, a real problem,

2620
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:45,840
Speaker 3: and one is just some competitive viral. I feel how

2621
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 3: I feel because I feel like I'm that that I'm

2622
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:52,600
Speaker 3: that I'm that nigga. You know what I'm saying. You

2623
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 3: think you know Jim Jones saying NOAs it's not a problem.

2624
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 1: You know the funniest shit I got it. I got

2625
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 1: in trouble because of you know called Jim, because I

2626
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 1: got in the breakfast club and I was like, yo,

2627
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:08,600
Speaker 1: I see where Jim is coming from, and all the

2628
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 1: whole Queen's bridge better than what I said. I just said,

2629
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 1: I see where he's coming from. Like I just say

2630
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:20,360
Speaker 1: he's better than Nos. But I see like that confidence.

2631
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to wake up in the morning and

2632
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 1: feel like that should be that person. When I tell you, boy,

2633
02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:30,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, I got a queens where it's trouble bro.

2634
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I was thinking I was in punishment

2635
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 1: for you know, Nos is a rap god and one

2636
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:39,600
Speaker 1: about he laughed.

2637
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 4: He was not saying he was laughing. Yes, he laughed

2638
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 4: it off. He's like, Yo, you know I got something

2639
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 4: your man up. It ain't nothing.

2640
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:47,760
Speaker 1: It's all love.

2641
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 3: Right. So the competitive nature of hip hop right for

2642
02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 3: nigga like Jim, he popping his ship. I feel like

2643
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 3: he's the most improved niggas rapping is you know you're

2644
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 3: doing what you do, right?

2645
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 1: Is it really a disrespect?

2646
02:12:04,760 --> 02:12:04,800
Speaker 7: No?

2647
02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:07,400
Speaker 4: But for the fans, they're like, how dare you?

2648
02:12:09,400 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 3: How dare you rep nos the rap guard? You could

2649
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 3: never compare. But at the end of the day, he

2650
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 3: understand our rhythm. He's saying, some ship that's gonna have

2651
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:17,760
Speaker 3: everybody talking, and it worked.

2652
02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:19,560
Speaker 4: When do you think it turns into disrespect?

2653
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 3: Like?

2654
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:20,200
Speaker 4: What makes it.

2655
02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 1: Okay?

2656
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:25,280
Speaker 4: I'm asking in general?

2657
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, he asked me about the difference between the non

2658
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:29,800
Speaker 3: situation and the mass B situation.

2659
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 4: And the mass B situation, there's a situation where there.

2660
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:40,560
Speaker 3: Was a real, real discrepancy, you know, And who am

2661
02:12:40,600 --> 02:12:45,680
Speaker 3: I to say what's serious and what is not. I'm

2662
02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 3: from the thought of if if nobody got dropped, nobody

2663
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:51,000
Speaker 3: got shot, nobody got.

2664
02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 4: Hurt, then it ain't really that serious. But that's that's

2665
02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:54,960
Speaker 4: just who I am.

2666
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:58,760
Speaker 3: I can't project that on somebody else because a certain

2667
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:02,160
Speaker 3: level of disrespect could be that serious. They could be

2668
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 3: lifetime serious, you know what I'm saying. So you know

2669
02:13:05,240 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 3: what I think, that's what the difference is.

2670
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like I was watching y'all show

2671
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:14,640
Speaker 1: once and you had asked Jim, and I believe Jim

2672
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:17,920
Speaker 1: is like no, and I believe y'all never never spoke

2673
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:22,200
Speaker 1: about it again. We have okay off there, Yeah, okay, okay, okay,

2674
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:26,520
Speaker 1: yeah again. This is something that I wish, like you know,

2675
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:28,320
Speaker 1: hip hop, certain things we would get over.

2676
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:32,080
Speaker 4: We were I wrote him along text one day.

2677
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay, like talking because I felt like you were trying

2678
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:40,640
Speaker 1: to fix it absolutely And this is me just spitballing

2679
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:42,800
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't know right, Like I said, man,

2680
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 1: Jim is my man, like I love Jim Jones man,

2681
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 1: like you know, I got to see him in the beginning,

2682
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:48,960
Speaker 1: and I also got to see Camon. But let's let's

2683
02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:53,840
Speaker 1: speak about do you think that him and Max? What

2684
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,120
Speaker 1: do you think could be fixed more him and Max

2685
02:13:56,240 --> 02:13:57,280
Speaker 1: or him and Can.

2686
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 3: Personally we could get to a space that we're all

2687
02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:03,200
Speaker 3: sitting in a room together.

2688
02:14:03,400 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 1: That's why I respect that.

2689
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:07,480
Speaker 4: That's what I personally I wish.

2690
02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:11,800
Speaker 1: I wrote him. I wrote him a long text one day, Yim.

2691
02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just on my mind right just as

2692
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:19,240
Speaker 3: a because I'm you know, I'm a nigga that that

2693
02:14:19,480 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 3: understands what it is to have lifetime problems with niggas.

2694
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:24,720
Speaker 3: It's just certain niggas that I can never fix it

2695
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:28,400
Speaker 3: with But from my perspective, I was like, you know,

2696
02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:32,040
Speaker 3: it's this something that could be, you know, rectified. And

2697
02:14:32,160 --> 02:14:34,880
Speaker 3: I sent them a text and I expressed him how

2698
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:38,080
Speaker 3: I felt, and at the same time, I was just like, yo,

2699
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:41,400
Speaker 3: if if I'm if I'm stepping over boundaries just to

2700
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:43,800
Speaker 3: understand that this is as a brother, this is just

2701
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:47,720
Speaker 3: how I feel like, right, And you know, I'm just

2702
02:14:47,800 --> 02:14:50,440
Speaker 3: basically like, yo, you know, this is something that I

2703
02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:53,320
Speaker 3: feel like will look better if we all kind of

2704
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:58,240
Speaker 3: embrace them, you know, a different level of maturity, you

2705
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:02,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But he he let me know, like, Yo,

2706
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:06,680
Speaker 3: I respect where you're coming from, and I love you

2707
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:09,880
Speaker 3: my niggas the brother, but this is something else for me,

2708
02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:11,720
Speaker 3: and I gotta respect that.

2709
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:14,680
Speaker 1: Because there was rumors at one point when Max came

2710
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:18,560
Speaker 1: home that there was going to be an interview with

2711
02:15:18,760 --> 02:15:23,040
Speaker 1: Max and Jim right, just them too, I believe on

2712
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 1: Jim's show artists Right. I never heard that's a rumor.

2713
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 1: I heard a couple of camera guys that I know.

2714
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:31,600
Speaker 4: I think that that would be dope. I think that

2715
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:36,480
Speaker 4: would I think that that would be and they don't

2716
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:37,240
Speaker 4: need nobody else.

2717
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying because I know Max, I

2718
02:15:39,560 --> 02:15:42,680
Speaker 3: had I have a relationship with Max, Max before I

2719
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:43,440
Speaker 3: actually knew I.

2720
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:45,440
Speaker 4: Actually I actually knew Max.

2721
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:47,080
Speaker 1: Because I seen him shot you out.

2722
02:15:47,720 --> 02:15:50,920
Speaker 3: It was like I knew Max when he first came home.

2723
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:53,800
Speaker 3: Right when he first came home. He used to come

2724
02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:55,760
Speaker 3: to Brooklyn, used to come, you know, my man GQ

2725
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:58,640
Speaker 3: Beach Studio the first time, not that first time, right,

2726
02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:00,440
Speaker 3: So what happened was he was I'm a home. He

2727
02:16:00,520 --> 02:16:02,920
Speaker 3: was coming to Brooklyn. You know, one of my homies

2728
02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:06,880
Speaker 3: had knew him from prison. One of my homies, he

2729
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:11,800
Speaker 3: had knew him from prison. I knew Max brother, you know,

2730
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 3: Mike Murder. We was in the full building together and

2731
02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:18,000
Speaker 3: Kasaki and all that together. Right when Max came home,

2732
02:16:18,040 --> 02:16:19,680
Speaker 3: my man was like, Yo, my little man just came home.

2733
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:21,680
Speaker 3: He nice and named Max being all he from Harlem.

2734
02:16:22,120 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 3: So Max used to actually come from Harlem to Brooklyn

2735
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:28,160
Speaker 3: to record through the studio that we was all working in.

2736
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:29,320
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

2737
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:31,560
Speaker 3: He used to scream, hustle hard and all that like,

2738
02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:36,160
Speaker 3: you know, but their relationship was more defined and I

2739
02:16:36,320 --> 02:16:43,560
Speaker 3: was just meeting him. They had the relationship, so there

2740
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:48,959
Speaker 3: was always respect between us right, But our relationship was never.

2741
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:51,120
Speaker 1: In the space of.

2742
02:16:52,640 --> 02:16:55,200
Speaker 3: Me and a Jim Jones. It was it never got

2743
02:16:55,240 --> 02:16:58,279
Speaker 3: to that, you see what I'm saying, So me feeling

2744
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:00,960
Speaker 3: how I felt as far as definitely don't have an

2745
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:03,760
Speaker 3: issue with Max b I don't have that. No, No,

2746
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:07,000
Speaker 3: I don't have no issue with him at all. But

2747
02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:10,080
Speaker 3: I was just saying that as a friend, and we

2748
02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:13,920
Speaker 3: talked about that earlier, and we getting money together, we

2749
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:18,240
Speaker 3: got business together, our families know each other. I just

2750
02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:22,279
Speaker 3: wanted to respect that in that in that moment.

2751
02:17:23,240 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you know, us us both man living in

2752
02:17:28,720 --> 02:17:34,640
Speaker 1: this industry, sometimes there's real beef and then sometimes there's

2753
02:17:34,720 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 1: raped beef, and sometimes there's just like in between, right,

2754
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:44,360
Speaker 1: Like we gotta like have those measures. When do you

2755
02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:46,400
Speaker 1: think a beef goes too far? I'm not talking about

2756
02:17:46,440 --> 02:17:49,480
Speaker 1: Jim and Max or Jim and Cam. I'm talking about

2757
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:55,600
Speaker 1: for you when you think a line is drawn you've

2758
02:17:55,640 --> 02:17:56,480
Speaker 1: been you know what I mean.

2759
02:17:57,720 --> 02:17:59,800
Speaker 3: I feel like on certain things it said that we

2760
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:04,160
Speaker 3: just can't take back. There's certain people that just could never.

2761
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 1: You know, without naming the people, can give me an

2762
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:10,280
Speaker 1: example or what that looks like. You don't have to

2763
02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:12,320
Speaker 1: name it. People when when When? When?

2764
02:18:12,680 --> 02:18:15,520
Speaker 3: When you make me feel like when I see you

2765
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:18,400
Speaker 3: on sight, Yeah I needed, I need to get with

2766
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:24,520
Speaker 3: you then, you know, but you got to understand everything

2767
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:28,200
Speaker 3: that happens on the inenternet. It's not made for for

2768
02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:33,400
Speaker 3: for a violent outcome. Like I ran into Trive.

2769
02:18:36,040 --> 02:18:37,640
Speaker 4: He was at a fight. I was at the fight.

2770
02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 3: I've seen him at his baby in his hand. Vegas, right, Vegas.

2771
02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:44,959
Speaker 3: Did you see the footage? I didn't want no smoke.

2772
02:18:46,360 --> 02:18:46,800
Speaker 1: That's real.

2773
02:18:46,879 --> 02:18:53,640
Speaker 3: I don't want no smoke, that's real. And we got

2774
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:56,680
Speaker 3: to understand what real beef is and what like having

2775
02:18:56,720 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 3: a discrepancy is. Me and him had a what I

2776
02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:03,520
Speaker 3: felt like as a discrepancy. I'm not looking for you,

2777
02:19:03,640 --> 02:19:08,480
Speaker 3: my nigga. In fact, I don't even I'm trying to

2778
02:19:08,760 --> 02:19:13,080
Speaker 3: find a way to say this without feeling like it's disrespectful.

2779
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:15,880
Speaker 3: If I'm beefing with a nigga and I see how

2780
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:18,400
Speaker 3: far he willing to take it, I don't want no

2781
02:19:18,560 --> 02:19:23,879
Speaker 3: smoke with him. If I'm beefing with a nigga, any nigga,

2782
02:19:24,160 --> 02:19:26,000
Speaker 3: and I understand that he's willing to get on the

2783
02:19:26,080 --> 02:19:30,080
Speaker 3: stand and point on a nigga and demonstrate on a nigga.

2784
02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:34,800
Speaker 3: He's a stronger man than me. I don't want to

2785
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:39,000
Speaker 3: smoke with him, because where we come from, if we

2786
02:19:39,120 --> 02:19:42,520
Speaker 3: call a nigga rat, either we're gonna do what we

2787
02:19:42,600 --> 02:19:45,119
Speaker 3: can only do two things with him. Either you want

2788
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,080
Speaker 3: to do something about him, or you gonna leave him alone.

2789
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:51,560
Speaker 3: So in that instance, I don't want no smoke with you. Brother,

2790
02:19:52,400 --> 02:19:55,440
Speaker 3: Live your life. You got a beautiful family, Do your thing.

2791
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:04,600
Speaker 1: What soney going in? Let me be devil's advocate a

2792
02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:09,240
Speaker 1: little bit about gun situation?

2793
02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:10,760
Speaker 4: What about it?

2794
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 1: Do you think that was like crossing the line when

2795
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:20,240
Speaker 1: he wouldn't understand and said, oh.

2796
02:20:20,360 --> 02:20:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Gunna, I think Gonna and I don't know,

2797
02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:32,959
Speaker 3: but I think Gonna actually felt like he was tricked.

2798
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:36,920
Speaker 4: I think he was told. I think he was told, Hey,

2799
02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:39,880
Speaker 4: this is not writing. You're not telling on nobody.

2800
02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:42,080
Speaker 3: You just gotta admit to these things and they're gonna

2801
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 3: give you a plead and you're gonna, you know, go

2802
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:49,840
Speaker 3: home your family. I think that he thought that he

2803
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:52,200
Speaker 3: was doing the right thing. I don't think that he

2804
02:20:52,440 --> 02:20:55,840
Speaker 3: had the intentions of telling him. That's what I think

2805
02:20:55,879 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 3: that he thought. I don't know, that's what I believe

2806
02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:03,240
Speaker 3: he didn't understand that what he was saying was in

2807
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:08,039
Speaker 3: one hundred percent contradiction of what the defense is saying.

2808
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:11,600
Speaker 3: We're saying we a rap label, were not a gang.

2809
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:17,320
Speaker 3: You was told to say that it is a gang.

2810
02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:20,200
Speaker 1: The gang. Yeah, and that's you witness crime. And he

2811
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:21,560
Speaker 1: was a part of it as well. Right.

2812
02:21:22,520 --> 02:21:25,280
Speaker 3: So that's the that's the that's the issue, that's the

2813
02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:27,520
Speaker 3: that's the way the line was on. But the thing is,

2814
02:21:27,600 --> 02:21:34,280
Speaker 3: this intent is very very very important when you come,

2815
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:36,959
Speaker 3: when you when you understand what snitching.

2816
02:21:36,640 --> 02:21:39,640
Speaker 1: Is, explain that police.

2817
02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:45,040
Speaker 4: If I get caught with two or three guns and

2818
02:21:45,200 --> 02:21:46,959
Speaker 4: to get out of my sentence.

2819
02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:52,200
Speaker 3: Or to know, to get out of the prosecution's way,

2820
02:21:53,560 --> 02:21:57,480
Speaker 3: two three guns, I'll go and say, yo, nor ready

2821
02:21:57,480 --> 02:21:57,680
Speaker 3: did this?

2822
02:21:57,879 --> 02:22:00,760
Speaker 1: No the manster.

2823
02:22:08,840 --> 02:22:15,520
Speaker 3: If I intentionally understandably say yo, it was it was

2824
02:22:15,760 --> 02:22:18,320
Speaker 3: it was the monster, not no, but monster that did

2825
02:22:18,400 --> 02:22:21,560
Speaker 3: it right, that did whatever. Because I'm trying to get

2826
02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:22,800
Speaker 3: out of what.

2827
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:23,480
Speaker 1: Happened to me.

2828
02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:25,480
Speaker 3: I got caught with two or three guns, Like, I'm

2829
02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:28,000
Speaker 3: trying to get out of that. So I don't want

2830
02:22:28,040 --> 02:22:30,360
Speaker 3: to I don't want to deal with that. I don't

2831
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:32,960
Speaker 3: want what comes with that. So I'm trying to find

2832
02:22:32,959 --> 02:22:35,520
Speaker 3: an easy way out, so that intent is possible, that

2833
02:22:35,720 --> 02:22:38,080
Speaker 3: intent is what it is. So in the case with

2834
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:40,920
Speaker 3: with with a gunner, I don't know if his intent

2835
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:43,880
Speaker 3: was the same. You see what I'm saying. Sometimes you

2836
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:55,600
Speaker 3: fall like if a nigga, if if if somebody, if

2837
02:22:55,680 --> 02:23:03,480
Speaker 3: somebody did something and that she was around, and the

2838
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:06,879
Speaker 3: police ask you, yo, who was there? You said, yeah,

2839
02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:08,360
Speaker 3: it was it was it was me and Monster, we

2840
02:23:08,440 --> 02:23:15,800
Speaker 3: were together. They used that to incriminate, incriminate the other person.

2841
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:22,360
Speaker 3: Are you really telling I wasn't intent? You could be

2842
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:24,440
Speaker 3: like I wasn't intended to telling them. They just asked

2843
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:26,120
Speaker 3: me who was there, and then I was saying that

2844
02:23:26,280 --> 02:23:27,040
Speaker 3: it was me and Monster.

2845
02:23:27,440 --> 02:23:28,160
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

2846
02:23:29,320 --> 02:23:37,200
Speaker 3: So intent, intent is intent. It's definitely important do do

2847
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:39,600
Speaker 3: do the streets understanding st Nah.

2848
02:23:39,520 --> 02:23:40,720
Speaker 4: It's hard to even figure that out.

2849
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:42,199
Speaker 1: People don't understand intent.

2850
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:44,600
Speaker 3: People understanding say. I think it's once you get to

2851
02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:46,640
Speaker 3: a level of maturity, you understand in sent because they

2852
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:48,640
Speaker 3: you know, the thing is, you ain't We ain't supposed

2853
02:23:48,640 --> 02:23:51,480
Speaker 3: to be talking regardless, It always won't come back to

2854
02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:53,480
Speaker 3: that niggas, you ain't supposed to be saying nothing. So

2855
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:56,360
Speaker 3: there's no room for no slip ups. When you ain't,

2856
02:23:56,480 --> 02:23:59,840
Speaker 3: you don't say nothing, you know. But in his case,

2857
02:24:00,040 --> 02:24:02,120
Speaker 3: I just think that I don't know if he was

2858
02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 3: intended on doing that. It came out bad and then

2859
02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:08,520
Speaker 3: we heard what Doug had to say about it, and

2860
02:24:08,600 --> 02:24:09,320
Speaker 3: it is what it is.

2861
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:11,960
Speaker 1: I guess that feels kind of like I want to

2862
02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:13,840
Speaker 1: I want to ask you too, because now we also

2863
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:17,040
Speaker 1: have footage of young Thug. They say, hey, we don't know,

2864
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:18,680
Speaker 1: it's not it.

2865
02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:19,920
Speaker 3: Nobody don't think nobody said that.

2866
02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:23,800
Speaker 10: Oh I thought someone just said nobody said that. Note Okay,

2867
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:30,760
Speaker 10: well she's not nobody. Nobody said right so about him

2868
02:24:30,760 --> 02:24:31,320
Speaker 10: in the precinct.

2869
02:24:31,400 --> 02:24:35,959
Speaker 1: In the precinct, so people. But what people are saying

2870
02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:37,960
Speaker 1: is that like he was throwing the police off.

2871
02:24:38,360 --> 02:24:40,960
Speaker 3: I think I and again, like I just said, I

2872
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:46,360
Speaker 3: felt like, yeah, I felt like Gunner felt like he

2873
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:50,680
Speaker 3: was he was tricked into that. On the flip side,

2874
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:54,080
Speaker 3: I feel like Thug thought that he was finessing mm hmm.

2875
02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:59,119
Speaker 3: I feel like he thought that he was in there,

2876
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:03,640
Speaker 3: yeah shanty, give me your number, man, like you know,

2877
02:25:03,720 --> 02:25:05,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to know something Like I felt

2878
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:06,920
Speaker 3: like that was what his mentality was.

2879
02:25:07,480 --> 02:25:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

2880
02:25:07,879 --> 02:25:08,200
Speaker 4: I don't.

2881
02:25:08,879 --> 02:25:11,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I could be wrong, but I think

2882
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:13,520
Speaker 3: that looking at what he was saying, and looking at

2883
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:15,760
Speaker 3: what he said after that, and on what was going on,

2884
02:25:16,480 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 3: and the fact that he didn't actually specifically tell on somebody,

2885
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:23,520
Speaker 3: I think that he thought that.

2886
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:24,720
Speaker 1: He had to answers.

2887
02:25:25,200 --> 02:25:28,800
Speaker 3: But the issue is this, though, ain't no finessing the

2888
02:25:28,840 --> 02:25:32,360
Speaker 3: police man, don't finessing the law. We think we could

2889
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:35,840
Speaker 3: do that, it's always going to come back and bite us.

2890
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:37,760
Speaker 4: Every time.

2891
02:25:38,520 --> 02:25:46,320
Speaker 1: M years ago, right, there was something that was said,

2892
02:25:46,400 --> 02:25:48,800
Speaker 1: probably about all of us, and we were like, we

2893
02:25:48,879 --> 02:25:51,040
Speaker 1: were trying to explain to people, like the rap game

2894
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:55,680
Speaker 1: might be the most dangerous job on the planet, right,

2895
02:25:57,320 --> 02:25:59,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not there's no disrespect to like, you know,

2896
02:25:59,520 --> 02:26:03,840
Speaker 1: military workers or whatever. But most of the time we

2897
02:26:03,879 --> 02:26:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know how our enemies look.

2898
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:07,920
Speaker 3: No, because more people know who you are than you

2899
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:11,359
Speaker 3: know them, than you had a disadvantage, you understand.

2900
02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 1: Do you feel do you feel like like rapping is

2901
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:18,680
Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous jobs? Yes, to listen.

2902
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:21,480
Speaker 3: I talked about being in the dating room, looking at you,

2903
02:26:22,840 --> 02:26:26,039
Speaker 3: looking at Cam, looking at Hove, looking at all these

2904
02:26:26,160 --> 02:26:28,440
Speaker 3: artists coming out of the city and saying, damn, I

2905
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:31,000
Speaker 3: want to do that, because what it looked like for

2906
02:26:31,160 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 3: me was that rap was a way out. I'm coming

2907
02:26:33,320 --> 02:26:35,760
Speaker 3: from violence, I'm coming from the street, I'm coming from prison,

2908
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm coming from having a plethora of enemies. I want

2909
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:43,600
Speaker 3: to get out of this. I'm thinking, soon as I

2910
02:26:43,640 --> 02:26:48,600
Speaker 3: get into the rap game, we made it. Nah, I

2911
02:26:48,720 --> 02:26:54,520
Speaker 3: thought wrong. In fact, getting into the game kind of

2912
02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:59,120
Speaker 3: intensifies that. It kind of magnifies that in a negative way,

2913
02:26:59,160 --> 02:27:05,560
Speaker 3: because now you more of a a target, you more

2914
02:27:05,640 --> 02:27:09,800
Speaker 3: of a symbol of hope that sometimes people just can't

2915
02:27:10,520 --> 02:27:12,800
Speaker 3: get out their own way, so they hate you more. Mark,

2916
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:17,800
Speaker 3: fuck all these rappers is dying. I ain't think you

2917
02:27:17,840 --> 02:27:21,040
Speaker 3: could die once you become a rapper. I thought that

2918
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 3: insulated you. This is what I listen, good point me

2919
02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:37,840
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven somewhere War Report, whole nas listening this shit.

2920
02:27:37,879 --> 02:27:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, this is why I want to do this, right,

2921
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:46,680
Speaker 3: because this is gonna allow me to escape this shit.

2922
02:27:47,400 --> 02:27:47,560
Speaker 2: Right.

2923
02:27:48,920 --> 02:27:52,680
Speaker 3: We never thought that niggas was really gonna be dying

2924
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,840
Speaker 3: and all this, like like yeah, it turned into something.

2925
02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:58,560
Speaker 4: Totally different, Like I didn't think rapids could die.

2926
02:27:59,480 --> 02:28:01,240
Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy. I remember at the time.

2927
02:28:01,320 --> 02:28:04,040
Speaker 1: I used to Uh, if if I ever got pulled

2928
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:06,160
Speaker 1: over and I said I was a rapper, like the

2929
02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 1: police would just let me go. Like right now, pulled over,

2930
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:11,000
Speaker 1: I want to say I'm a drug dealer, like I

2931
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:15,240
Speaker 1: say I'm a rapper, like it worse, like like you

2932
02:28:15,280 --> 02:28:18,040
Speaker 1: got to say you're an American citizens all right, but

2933
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm not playing.

2934
02:28:22,840 --> 02:28:25,240
Speaker 4: Being a rapper is not special no more. It's not

2935
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:26,640
Speaker 4: it's not.

2936
02:28:28,640 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 1: Famous is not special no more.

2937
02:28:30,760 --> 02:28:35,080
Speaker 3: Being famous can still have depending on your level of fame.

2938
02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Is this you Yeah, you ain't checking me out? Famous man?

2939
02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:52,879
Speaker 1: Fa So that was bad funny. It's in CBS right now,

2940
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:57,440
Speaker 1: go up there, pure oh boxes right now about to

2941
02:28:57,480 --> 02:28:59,800
Speaker 1: go buy available And.

2942
02:29:01,440 --> 02:29:02,599
Speaker 4: Being a rapper.

2943
02:29:04,480 --> 02:29:05,279
Speaker 1: It's not as.

2944
02:29:07,200 --> 02:29:11,760
Speaker 3: Prestigious especial as it used to be because being a

2945
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:14,560
Speaker 3: rapper felt like there was a rights to passage.

2946
02:29:14,600 --> 02:29:17,200
Speaker 1: It was like there was a level of getting it.

2947
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:21,039
Speaker 3: Only the best had record deals, and only the best

2948
02:29:21,240 --> 02:29:23,520
Speaker 3: was on B T and m t V, only only

2949
02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:25,560
Speaker 3: those special ones.

2950
02:29:25,720 --> 02:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Now it's like everybody could be it.

2951
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:30,879
Speaker 2: You don't think that your own house, You don't think

2952
02:29:30,920 --> 02:29:32,360
Speaker 2: that's the magic word the best.

2953
02:29:32,920 --> 02:29:33,560
Speaker 4: I feel like the.

2954
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:36,039
Speaker 2: Best has dwindled. Down to you don't have to be good.

2955
02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:37,000
Speaker 1: It don't have to be anything.

2956
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:42,560
Speaker 3: Because the technology has allowed us to allow anybody to

2957
02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:45,560
Speaker 3: be a rapper or be an artist. So it's like, okay,

2958
02:29:47,080 --> 02:29:51,480
Speaker 3: pro tools. We could set pro tools up anywhere, bathroom, hotel,

2959
02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:53,200
Speaker 3: bus car, anywhere.

2960
02:29:53,879 --> 02:29:56,760
Speaker 1: We could set up pro tools or loops.

2961
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:01,440
Speaker 2: All that. You could a whole recording on your phone

2962
02:30:01,480 --> 02:30:01,720
Speaker 2: right now.

2963
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:05,279
Speaker 3: Anywhere you can record right because the technology allowed.

2964
02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:08,720
Speaker 1: Us to do that. Mad a whole hit from from prison.

2965
02:30:08,959 --> 02:30:13,240
Speaker 3: So now because of that, anybody can just be an artist.

2966
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:16,160
Speaker 3: That's music is the only sport where you could just

2967
02:30:16,320 --> 02:30:19,920
Speaker 3: be it. You gotta go to school to be a lawyer,

2968
02:30:20,320 --> 02:30:25,400
Speaker 3: that's real. You gotta go through training in amateurs to

2969
02:30:25,480 --> 02:30:28,879
Speaker 3: be a professional boxer. You can't just be a professional

2970
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:32,520
Speaker 3: fucking baseball player, basketball players. You can't just be it music.

2971
02:30:32,600 --> 02:30:33,879
Speaker 3: You could just be it rap up.

2972
02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:36,000
Speaker 2: You can just be it music and rapper. But I

2973
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:39,440
Speaker 2: think we should be different than hip hop. Maybe that's

2974
02:30:39,480 --> 02:30:40,000
Speaker 2: not even.

2975
02:30:39,879 --> 02:30:43,800
Speaker 3: Me that though, because anybody can just do it, it

2976
02:30:44,400 --> 02:30:48,560
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You know how many girls I've seen that

2977
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:54,600
Speaker 3: started to garner a certain level of Instagram notoriety turn

2978
02:30:54,640 --> 02:30:58,480
Speaker 3: around to say to me, I'm gonna make a record

2979
02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:01,760
Speaker 3: because it's like the rap still comes with a certain

2980
02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:05,640
Speaker 3: level of coolness, right and you I'm like, yo, you

2981
02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:07,080
Speaker 3: just it don't work like that.

2982
02:31:07,240 --> 02:31:09,199
Speaker 1: You just like it's it's.

2983
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:11,760
Speaker 3: Dudes, you gotta pay. It's a standard that you gotta

2984
02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:13,160
Speaker 3: sit on top of.

2985
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:14,680
Speaker 1: But no, you don't.

2986
02:31:15,720 --> 02:31:19,120
Speaker 3: You don't have to reach a certain level of a standard.

2987
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:22,039
Speaker 3: You don't have to reach a certain level of capability.

2988
02:31:22,160 --> 02:31:24,840
Speaker 3: You don't have to get to these places, you know,

2989
02:31:25,080 --> 02:31:26,280
Speaker 3: because before it was like if.

2990
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 4: You get a record a record deal, you don't need

2991
02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:32,640
Speaker 4: a record deal. You get a major record deal, you

2992
02:31:32,840 --> 02:31:33,720
Speaker 4: was like looked.

2993
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:36,640
Speaker 3: At as Wow, this niggas signed a Sony, he signed

2994
02:31:36,680 --> 02:31:42,080
Speaker 3: a death Cham, he signed to automatic automatically just by

2995
02:31:42,240 --> 02:31:44,120
Speaker 3: having that, because that shows you could have been the

2996
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:46,680
Speaker 3: wagoned person in the world. You gotta deal that makes

2997
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:52,320
Speaker 3: you automatically. You gotta be something for somebody to do that.

2998
02:31:53,080 --> 02:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Now it's not that.

2999
02:31:55,520 --> 02:31:59,400
Speaker 3: Anybody can do it anybody. So because it's now it's like,

3000
02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:00,240
Speaker 3: I don't even want to be.

3001
02:32:00,280 --> 02:32:02,039
Speaker 1: Called a rapper. It's like, don't call it. Like it's

3002
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:03,680
Speaker 1: just disposable music.

3003
02:32:04,480 --> 02:32:09,240
Speaker 3: It's all watered down. If anything, the labels don't feel

3004
02:32:09,280 --> 02:32:14,920
Speaker 3: the same. The listener is not the same. The genre,

3005
02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:18,520
Speaker 3: the energy, the culture is not the same. Rights it's

3006
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:22,760
Speaker 3: just not special. It's just like everybody is a rapper. Now,

3007
02:32:23,560 --> 02:32:26,279
Speaker 3: how many times we've been somewhere, We've been some places

3008
02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:28,480
Speaker 3: and you're like, yo, you know who that is? Like, no,

3009
02:32:28,520 --> 02:32:29,760
Speaker 3: I don't know who the fuck that is, but that's

3010
02:32:29,800 --> 02:32:32,040
Speaker 3: such and such here a rapper.

3011
02:32:33,400 --> 02:32:35,480
Speaker 2: But we shouldn't accept them as rappers. What I'm saying like,

3012
02:32:35,959 --> 02:32:38,400
Speaker 2: everybody can't be a rapper. They can all be rappers,

3013
02:32:38,560 --> 02:32:39,760
Speaker 2: but should not be accepted.

3014
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:42,240
Speaker 4: What's the standard? What's the measurement?

3015
02:32:42,920 --> 02:32:46,200
Speaker 1: And the same thing with DJs. There's a lot of

3016
02:32:46,320 --> 02:32:49,760
Speaker 1: DJs DJ them.

3017
02:32:50,120 --> 02:32:52,360
Speaker 2: Well, I think what Nads and Master Pill is doing

3018
02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:53,200
Speaker 2: is super love.

3019
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:55,160
Speaker 1: What they're doing to pay homage to.

3020
02:32:55,400 --> 02:32:57,160
Speaker 4: The culture of it understood.

3021
02:32:57,200 --> 02:32:59,400
Speaker 1: So, but but that's they they can't and it also

3022
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:00,240
Speaker 1: makes business sense.

3023
02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:03,080
Speaker 2: Well it does make business because we're all being nostalgic

3024
02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:05,000
Speaker 2: saying that ship was dope back then. This is why

3025
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:05,560
Speaker 2: we like it now.

3026
02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:07,680
Speaker 1: You building fan base.

3027
02:33:08,040 --> 02:33:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry when you say that they we shouldn't accept

3028
02:33:10,959 --> 02:33:11,560
Speaker 3: them as rappers.

3029
02:33:11,600 --> 02:33:16,040
Speaker 2: So what's the standard? I mean, you're asking me to

3030
02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:18,600
Speaker 2: make the standard yes, what's the standard? At least they

3031
02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:24,400
Speaker 2: make a sentence that rhymes. It's many people that can

3032
02:33:24,440 --> 02:33:24,840
Speaker 2: make a sense.

3033
02:33:24,879 --> 02:33:26,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying be the standard, because that's

3034
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:27,840
Speaker 3: that's the bar's loading.

3035
02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:31,760
Speaker 2: Like listen, let's talk about m seeing his historically, Like,

3036
02:33:31,840 --> 02:33:32,480
Speaker 2: let's go back to the.

3037
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:34,959
Speaker 4: Cold crush and how it keeps going up. That's too far.

3038
02:33:35,160 --> 02:33:36,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm gonna bring you up.

3039
02:33:36,760 --> 02:33:37,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring you up to day.

3040
02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:40,520
Speaker 2: Let's go ice cube, Let's go n W, let's go

3041
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:43,600
Speaker 2: public enemy, let's go nas. As it keeps going up,

3042
02:33:43,640 --> 02:33:46,960
Speaker 2: it gets more lyrical, more intelligent. How the fuck does

3043
02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:49,960
Speaker 2: it go down this way? How do we go from

3044
02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:53,440
Speaker 2: down here up here and then slope down? That doesn't

3045
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:59,480
Speaker 2: make sense, man, But listen, that's so I'm not so

3046
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:07,160
Speaker 2: skin you this though, because any person with you know,

3047
02:34:08,360 --> 02:34:10,240
Speaker 2: mind and bodies should be able to be able to

3048
02:34:11,800 --> 02:34:15,040
Speaker 2: to make a sense is rhyme R What would be

3049
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:17,560
Speaker 2: in your in your mind? What would be the standard

3050
02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:20,320
Speaker 2: that people would have to live up to to be

3051
02:34:20,879 --> 02:34:22,120
Speaker 2: to be able to say I'm a rapper?

3052
02:34:23,080 --> 02:34:24,280
Speaker 1: No MC or a rapper?

3053
02:34:25,360 --> 02:34:27,440
Speaker 4: Well, no, to be an MC is one thing.

3054
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:29,119
Speaker 1: To be a rapper. Anybody could be a rap. Anybody

3055
02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:29,720
Speaker 1: could be a rapper.

3056
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:32,400
Speaker 2: Anybody could be a rapper. To be MC down, to

3057
02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:35,039
Speaker 2: be an MC, you have to be prolific in your lyrics.

3058
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:37,080
Speaker 2: It has to rhyme, it has to make sense.

3059
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:39,400
Speaker 4: But who's at the gate making sure that there is

3060
02:34:39,480 --> 02:34:39,800
Speaker 4: no gate?

3061
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:41,240
Speaker 2: So the audience needs to be the gate.

3062
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:43,240
Speaker 3: It's not gonna work that. No, that's the one that

3063
02:34:43,280 --> 02:34:45,480
Speaker 3: the honest don't care. No, but that's the audience is

3064
02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:46,160
Speaker 3: one a good time.

3065
02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:48,680
Speaker 2: When the when the audience stops carrying, it's not just

3066
02:34:48,760 --> 02:34:49,680
Speaker 2: the audience's fault.

3067
02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:53,000
Speaker 4: It means it is the audience's fault because people party.

3068
02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:54,680
Speaker 3: People like the party, and they at the club and

3069
02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:56,840
Speaker 3: understanding the textures of music and if a nigga is

3070
02:34:56,920 --> 02:35:00,920
Speaker 3: like cat rat, that that that and if it sound good.

3071
02:35:01,160 --> 02:35:03,840
Speaker 4: And it's a vibe and it's a bounce. Wait, we're

3072
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:05,080
Speaker 4: going with it, but let's go back.

3073
02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:10,880
Speaker 1: Let's go back to what you said the best lyrics. Wow,

3074
02:35:15,080 --> 02:35:15,720
Speaker 1: this on one second?

3075
02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:19,680
Speaker 4: One second, I'm I'm bathroom. I want to use the bathroom.

3076
02:35:21,160 --> 02:35:26,800
Speaker 1: Right after we got the de conversation, Damn, right now,

3077
02:35:28,959 --> 02:35:30,640
Speaker 1: I was ready to go with the big club on you.

3078
02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:32,959
Speaker 1: In my life, I like the do.

3079
02:35:34,520 --> 02:35:36,920
Speaker 4: No, we were trying to talk about the standard, the standard.

3080
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So what would be the.

3081
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:44,520
Speaker 3: Standard of of the MC like because the general pub

3082
02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:51,120
Speaker 3: the general public, the general public doesn't have that standard, right,

3083
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:56,440
Speaker 3: the average person is just looking for something that that

3084
02:35:56,560 --> 02:35:58,600
Speaker 3: makes them feel like they're having a good time, especially

3085
02:35:58,640 --> 02:35:59,720
Speaker 3: when you were talking about clubs.

3086
02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:02,040
Speaker 2: So my point with the general public not having the

3087
02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:06,080
Speaker 2: standard was this, you yourself remembered, you said the label

3088
02:36:06,560 --> 02:36:09,440
Speaker 2: when you got signed, the label needed to put all

3089
02:36:09,520 --> 02:36:12,480
Speaker 2: this money to make this record a hit and do

3090
02:36:12,520 --> 02:36:16,000
Speaker 2: all this stuff. We all could agree. The record label

3091
02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:18,560
Speaker 2: doesn't give a fuck about hip hop. They give a

3092
02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:23,520
Speaker 2: fuck about profit, so they will make hits that doesn't

3093
02:36:23,560 --> 02:36:28,240
Speaker 2: necessarily benefit hip hop, benefits their pockets, benefits the corporate structure.

3094
02:36:28,879 --> 02:36:31,640
Speaker 2: So the hits that they're gonna keep pushing are not

3095
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:35,720
Speaker 2: going to be beneficial to hip hop growing, being smarter,

3096
02:36:36,360 --> 02:36:39,720
Speaker 2: be more prolific, be more social. So they're gonna just

3097
02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:43,880
Speaker 2: keep pushing these hit records with all this money that

3098
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:48,680
Speaker 2: eventually the whole audience today after the fact, they don't

3099
02:36:48,680 --> 02:36:49,160
Speaker 2: give a fuck.

3100
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:50,119
Speaker 4: They don't give a fuck.

3101
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:54,360
Speaker 2: About MC's rappers, hip hop, the elements of hip hop.

3102
02:36:54,520 --> 02:36:56,120
Speaker 4: It's all that doesn't solve them.

3103
02:36:56,520 --> 02:36:59,240
Speaker 2: It's just a music. Give me a fucking hit record.

3104
02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:01,200
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. There's one leg up, two legs,

3105
02:37:01,280 --> 02:37:03,680
Speaker 2: one of my ears in my face, I'm this, I'm that.

3106
02:37:03,800 --> 02:37:05,360
Speaker 2: They don't give a fuck what it is. Just give

3107
02:37:05,400 --> 02:37:08,720
Speaker 2: me a catchy tune and then the idea of hip

3108
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:10,000
Speaker 2: hop that we all grew up on.

3109
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:12,200
Speaker 4: That's it. I agree with that.

3110
02:37:13,040 --> 02:37:13,400
Speaker 1: I agree.

3111
02:37:13,440 --> 02:37:18,720
Speaker 3: I agree with the fact that nobody really cares, right,

3112
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:22,520
Speaker 3: and I think that's the problem. So so basically so

3113
02:37:23,720 --> 02:37:27,160
Speaker 3: that can't change, then I think it can That's what

3114
02:37:27,160 --> 02:37:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm trying.

3115
02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:29,800
Speaker 1: I think it can't change.

3116
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:32,240
Speaker 4: Because no one cares, because I think hip hop.

3117
02:37:32,240 --> 02:37:35,320
Speaker 2: Is still a unified group of people, even though we

3118
02:37:35,440 --> 02:37:39,080
Speaker 2: might have different intentions, different ideas, we all still identify

3119
02:37:39,240 --> 02:37:40,360
Speaker 2: under the banner of hip hop.

3120
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:43,400
Speaker 4: But once it became corporate, it was out of our hands.

3121
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:45,840
Speaker 2: But right now we've unders we've all understand that, well,

3122
02:37:45,879 --> 02:37:48,040
Speaker 2: we believe corporate is kind of out of well, the

3123
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:51,920
Speaker 2: major labels, corporate is still the social media companies are corporate.

3124
02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:52,960
Speaker 4: That's still another record.

3125
02:37:53,200 --> 02:37:56,800
Speaker 1: What happened with ninety seven right now, Well, they're saying

3126
02:37:56,840 --> 02:38:00,680
Speaker 1: that it's visually the capitalist that's running that whole civil.

3127
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:03,960
Speaker 2: Capitalism runs everything we do. Absolutely we are capital the

3128
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:05,600
Speaker 2: thing I'm not mad at being a capitalist.

3129
02:38:05,720 --> 02:38:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that neither. But I don't think

3130
02:38:10,879 --> 02:38:15,360
Speaker 3: it can change back. We're not right raw, hip hop

3131
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:18,240
Speaker 3: raw not the roan. You can never go because just

3132
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:20,120
Speaker 3: as the idea of the time frame that it was in,

3133
02:38:20,400 --> 02:38:24,000
Speaker 3: just just just that standard of what what we felt

3134
02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:26,040
Speaker 3: like hip hop was. I don't feel like it could

3135
02:38:26,120 --> 02:38:28,320
Speaker 3: change back to that though, you know what I'm saying.

3136
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that it could change back to what

3137
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:31,720
Speaker 3: it used to be.

3138
02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:33,879
Speaker 2: I don't think it could change back. But I don't

3139
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:36,320
Speaker 2: think we have to say because it can't change back,

3140
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:37,160
Speaker 2: we can't.

3141
02:38:37,600 --> 02:38:40,160
Speaker 4: Keep the essence there. But who's gonna keep it?

3142
02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:44,000
Speaker 2: We right here in drink Champs alone are trying to

3143
02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:45,000
Speaker 2: keep the hip.

3144
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:51,000
Speaker 3: What shot that your shot that drink keeping the essence alive?

3145
02:38:54,040 --> 02:38:57,480
Speaker 3: But do you do you do understand that two thirty

3146
02:38:57,600 --> 02:38:59,840
Speaker 3: three in the morning in a club in any various

3147
02:39:00,160 --> 02:39:07,600
Speaker 3: the of of of of your choice, right, alcohol, drugs, music,

3148
02:39:07,800 --> 02:39:14,520
Speaker 3: absolutely from Yeah, nobody's thinking about keeping the essence of

3149
02:39:14,600 --> 02:39:14,920
Speaker 3: hip hop.

3150
02:39:14,959 --> 02:39:16,720
Speaker 2: But you know I'm saying that you do understand that

3151
02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:19,720
Speaker 2: not everybody lives at two thirty in the morning on

3152
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:22,600
Speaker 2: drugs and alcohol in a constantly American you know what.

3153
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:26,960
Speaker 4: You know what, sometimes we forget that.

3154
02:39:27,879 --> 02:39:31,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes I ain't gonna lie. That's the one thing. Uh,

3155
02:39:31,480 --> 02:39:32,960
Speaker 1: thank you for pointing that. That's the one thing I

3156
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:36,240
Speaker 1: love about Ogzo. Like when you see Kine if you

3157
02:39:36,360 --> 02:39:39,400
Speaker 1: follow Caine the other day, yo, yo, Kine stays on

3158
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:43,480
Speaker 1: the road. Yes, when I see that ship, I see like,

3159
02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, Jasey Jabb all these people staying on the

3160
02:39:47,520 --> 02:39:49,959
Speaker 1: road and it's like, yo, you know he's.

3161
02:39:49,840 --> 02:39:53,240
Speaker 4: Just judge Jeff Kill crazy hood day like killed day. Yeah,

3162
02:39:53,400 --> 02:39:54,160
Speaker 4: he shut it down.

3163
02:39:57,600 --> 02:39:59,600
Speaker 3: You know, hip hop is the only genre of music

3164
02:39:59,680 --> 02:40:02,080
Speaker 3: that people kind of shame you for getting older.

3165
02:40:02,080 --> 02:40:04,480
Speaker 1: You're for getting older, Like why change that?

3166
02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:09,080
Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, that too, that's that's that's that

3167
02:40:09,160 --> 02:40:11,560
Speaker 3: should be a part of the agenda.

3168
02:40:11,879 --> 02:40:17,600
Speaker 1: And you can talk, you can be absolutely hundred isnine

3169
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:22,000
Speaker 1: thousand years old. Come on, he's front, come on, yeah,

3170
02:40:22,280 --> 02:40:24,400
Speaker 1: he's yes, he's different.

3171
02:40:25,400 --> 02:40:28,720
Speaker 3: Is the only genre that you know, you get to

3172
02:40:28,760 --> 02:40:32,400
Speaker 3: your forties and plus then it's like, oh, you old nigga,

3173
02:40:33,320 --> 02:40:34,880
Speaker 3: you need a share and it's like it shouldn't be

3174
02:40:34,959 --> 02:40:37,880
Speaker 3: that because every other music you can it doesn't.

3175
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:39,320
Speaker 4: It's no age.

3176
02:40:40,879 --> 02:40:41,279
Speaker 1: Ceiling.

3177
02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:44,760
Speaker 4: You can be whatever, right.

3178
02:40:44,920 --> 02:40:48,120
Speaker 3: Ozzy Osbourne went all the way to the death end

3179
02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:57,560
Speaker 3: told head fans torn passed to the death and as

3180
02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:01,160
Speaker 3: an artist, this is not a filical sport, right, you

3181
02:41:01,240 --> 02:41:06,720
Speaker 3: understand like your bad AnGR you know what I mean?

3182
02:41:06,840 --> 02:41:08,240
Speaker 4: You got bad physicals.

3183
02:41:08,320 --> 02:41:10,040
Speaker 2: We wanted to be right, but it's not.

3184
02:41:10,240 --> 02:41:11,080
Speaker 4: It's it's mental.

3185
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Is insane clown posse. Maybe you gotta because you might be.

3186
02:41:15,800 --> 02:41:18,400
Speaker 3: Able to jump around on stage no more, but understanding

3187
02:41:18,480 --> 02:41:19,879
Speaker 3: that the music is still music.

3188
02:41:19,720 --> 02:41:21,920
Speaker 1: And cut you off. Did you see Kane do his

3189
02:41:22,040 --> 02:41:22,680
Speaker 1: last I saw that.

3190
02:41:22,760 --> 02:41:26,400
Speaker 7: I talked him about that, that whole footage though it's

3191
02:41:26,440 --> 02:41:32,640
Speaker 7: just resurface about that last another day you got me

3192
02:41:33,959 --> 02:41:35,920
Speaker 7: it's not up the first one.

3193
02:41:35,920 --> 02:41:36,200
Speaker 4: He said.

3194
02:41:36,320 --> 02:41:36,879
Speaker 1: The dude.

3195
02:41:38,680 --> 02:41:42,440
Speaker 3: Again, king man, we should be doing this ship.

3196
02:41:42,480 --> 02:41:45,200
Speaker 4: Put the rest off if you want to. So they

3197
02:41:45,280 --> 02:41:46,360
Speaker 4: got this thing where they say yo.

3198
02:41:46,959 --> 02:41:48,440
Speaker 3: So it's like they got this thing where they be

3199
02:41:48,480 --> 02:41:52,160
Speaker 3: like yo, these niggas are tenier citizens, right, and it's

3200
02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:54,720
Speaker 3: like y'all yeah, telling us.

3201
02:41:56,120 --> 02:41:56,760
Speaker 1: I never heard this.

3202
02:41:57,040 --> 02:41:59,760
Speaker 4: This is kind of hard teen year citizens.

3203
02:42:01,120 --> 02:42:03,400
Speaker 3: I started and started as like a I don't know

3204
02:42:03,440 --> 02:42:07,160
Speaker 3: I guess niggas was trying to like go at Jim

3205
02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:09,879
Speaker 3: Jones and say, oh, he's he's a he's a teenage citizen.

3206
02:42:10,160 --> 02:42:13,560
Speaker 3: He's the youngest o g. We know, like, I don't

3207
02:42:13,600 --> 02:42:18,160
Speaker 3: think nothing wrong with that, right, because age is about energy.

3208
02:42:19,320 --> 02:42:23,240
Speaker 3: We only hear one time, bro, that one time that

3209
02:42:23,720 --> 02:42:25,680
Speaker 3: we know of right, that we know off right that

3210
02:42:25,840 --> 02:42:29,320
Speaker 3: that that's what we know. Why not live to the

3211
02:42:29,400 --> 02:42:31,800
Speaker 3: fullest and you do what make you happy, my nigga,

3212
02:42:32,360 --> 02:42:36,720
Speaker 3: Like like, if if your perception is me is a

3213
02:42:36,800 --> 02:42:39,200
Speaker 3: teen citizen, then let me let me live my life

3214
02:42:39,240 --> 02:42:40,680
Speaker 3: the way I want to live it, my nigga, let

3215
02:42:40,720 --> 02:42:42,680
Speaker 3: me live my days the way I fucking want to

3216
02:42:42,760 --> 02:42:42,920
Speaker 3: do it.

3217
02:42:43,240 --> 02:42:48,480
Speaker 4: Because guess what, it's people that you know album.

3218
02:42:50,879 --> 02:42:51,520
Speaker 2: That's a good name.

3219
02:42:51,600 --> 02:42:56,760
Speaker 3: Though there's people that we both know and everybody here

3220
02:42:56,879 --> 02:43:00,640
Speaker 3: know that that didn't have the has to live the

3221
02:43:00,640 --> 02:43:03,160
Speaker 3: way they want to live right and do the things

3222
02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:03,800
Speaker 3: that they want to do.

3223
02:43:04,520 --> 02:43:04,640
Speaker 6: Right.

3224
02:43:04,760 --> 02:43:09,600
Speaker 3: We're still here with with with the blessings from lucky

3225
02:43:10,440 --> 02:43:13,959
Speaker 3: you know, from the universe like that were able to.

3226
02:43:13,959 --> 02:43:14,520
Speaker 1: Still be here.

3227
02:43:14,640 --> 02:43:20,240
Speaker 3: Like so if if if I want to still pull

3228
02:43:20,320 --> 02:43:25,480
Speaker 3: up to the club, if I got on sweatsuit and

3229
02:43:25,600 --> 02:43:26,040
Speaker 3: jews on.

3230
02:43:26,400 --> 02:43:28,760
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be a little nigga. I'm not

3231
02:43:28,840 --> 02:43:31,119
Speaker 4: trying to be a lion. But I'm this hip hop.

3232
02:43:31,200 --> 02:43:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm standing you.

3233
02:43:34,000 --> 02:43:36,800
Speaker 4: You've always been being you'reerent.

3234
02:43:38,040 --> 02:43:41,720
Speaker 3: People set these invisible boundaries and these standards on you

3235
02:43:42,120 --> 02:43:43,760
Speaker 3: and say that when you get to a certain age

3236
02:43:43,800 --> 02:43:46,880
Speaker 3: that you should be dressing a certain way or doing

3237
02:43:46,959 --> 02:43:48,920
Speaker 3: a certain thing, or you should just automatically turn this

3238
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:49,480
Speaker 3: old man.

3239
02:43:50,080 --> 02:43:50,840
Speaker 4: I don't believe in that.

3240
02:43:51,840 --> 02:43:57,840
Speaker 3: I don't believe why, like, should we stop wearing baseball hats,

3241
02:43:59,080 --> 02:44:00,480
Speaker 3: should we stop wearing tims?

3242
02:44:00,640 --> 02:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Hating on my hair? They'd be out there, I see you,

3243
02:44:03,640 --> 02:44:04,480
Speaker 1: they hate on your hair.

3244
02:44:05,600 --> 02:44:07,240
Speaker 4: The fact that, yeah I got that too.

3245
02:44:07,840 --> 02:44:13,200
Speaker 2: Definitely for your painting this ship right, definitely, little pain,

3246
02:44:13,280 --> 02:44:14,840
Speaker 2: little paint later.

3247
02:44:14,879 --> 02:44:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, little.

3248
02:44:17,800 --> 02:44:23,280
Speaker 4: Seven. You know, but you know where he should he

3249
02:44:23,320 --> 02:44:24,080
Speaker 4: should be able.

3250
02:44:23,920 --> 02:44:26,400
Speaker 3: To do what the he wanted to do, exactly, bottom line,

3251
02:44:27,320 --> 02:44:28,840
Speaker 3: bottom line, he should be able to do what he

3252
02:44:28,920 --> 02:44:29,280
Speaker 3: wants to do.

3253
02:44:29,400 --> 02:44:30,400
Speaker 1: Take a sip for that, let's do it.

3254
02:44:30,720 --> 02:44:36,080
Speaker 4: Definitely, I didn't. I didn't plan out to be this drunk. Yeah,

3255
02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:42,400
Speaker 4: we we planned out for you to be got.

3256
02:44:43,320 --> 02:44:45,560
Speaker 1: We've been through. I'm gonna just be honest with you, man.

3257
02:44:45,879 --> 02:44:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of you. Man.

3258
02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:48,480
Speaker 4: I appreciate you to do the thing.

3259
02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:51,320
Speaker 3: Continue to smile, man, absolutely especial when you get new

3260
02:44:51,360 --> 02:44:52,120
Speaker 3: tea paid.

3261
02:44:52,480 --> 02:44:57,840
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, we can tell let's got but but man,

3262
02:44:57,959 --> 02:45:00,880
Speaker 1: like you know everything you've been through, everything you and

3263
02:45:01,720 --> 02:45:04,560
Speaker 1: to be here and just to still be that guy

3264
02:45:04,720 --> 02:45:07,120
Speaker 1: man and still be holding it down and still be

3265
02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:07,959
Speaker 1: able to smile.

3266
02:45:08,080 --> 02:45:10,119
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Because I'm gonna tell you something.

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02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:14,640
Speaker 1: As a person I lived in every form of rap game.

3268
02:45:15,680 --> 02:45:18,240
Speaker 1: I know how hard this ship is. Like even when

3269
02:45:18,280 --> 02:45:20,480
Speaker 1: you even when we at the best of our best,

3270
02:45:20,800 --> 02:45:23,520
Speaker 1: that shit is still hard because we can't never it's

3271
02:45:23,600 --> 02:45:25,840
Speaker 1: not we can never turn it in our uniform. The

3272
02:45:26,040 --> 02:45:27,080
Speaker 1: uniform is twenty.

3273
02:45:26,879 --> 02:45:28,440
Speaker 4: Four hours because that's how people see you.

3274
02:45:28,680 --> 02:45:29,600
Speaker 1: That's how people see you.

3275
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:30,959
Speaker 4: And you can never live that down.

3276
02:45:31,040 --> 02:45:33,360
Speaker 1: You could never live that down. So you know, to

3277
02:45:34,360 --> 02:45:37,960
Speaker 1: to continue to be successful, continue to be out there,

3278
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:40,720
Speaker 1: continue to smile, continue to work, continue to do that.

3279
02:45:40,840 --> 02:45:42,160
Speaker 1: Like I just want to let you know, like we

3280
02:45:42,480 --> 02:45:44,840
Speaker 1: admire you, we respect you, and we want That's why

3281
02:45:44,879 --> 02:45:46,000
Speaker 1: we wanted to give you a flowers.

3282
02:45:46,160 --> 02:45:46,720
Speaker 4: Appreciate that.

3283
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:53,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and especially and especially like being a

3284
02:45:53,400 --> 02:45:55,440
Speaker 1: street person. So like when I like kind of like

3285
02:45:57,400 --> 02:46:00,520
Speaker 1: to you know me, I was researching you and I

3286
02:46:00,640 --> 02:46:03,039
Speaker 1: kept going back like six years ago. See how many

3287
02:46:03,160 --> 02:46:07,040
Speaker 1: people were like baiting you, like I mean by baiting you.

3288
02:46:07,360 --> 02:46:10,560
Speaker 1: Was like they're like, yo, man, it's known for this this.

3289
02:46:10,920 --> 02:46:13,160
Speaker 1: So then what I did was I went and I

3290
02:46:13,280 --> 02:46:22,200
Speaker 1: pulled up ah you on like white people's shows, and

3291
02:46:22,320 --> 02:46:25,840
Speaker 1: I said this it's because it's like, all right, cool,

3292
02:46:25,840 --> 02:46:28,880
Speaker 1: I seen what what like MV like my man, I

3293
02:46:28,959 --> 02:46:31,640
Speaker 1: mean man, like certain like when I was watching your

3294
02:46:31,720 --> 02:46:34,600
Speaker 1: interviews that I watched black then I watched and I was,

3295
02:46:34,680 --> 02:46:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to you know, trying to be official,

3296
02:46:36,640 --> 02:46:38,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when I see you

3297
02:46:38,879 --> 02:46:40,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, you know how to do that?

3298
02:46:41,000 --> 02:46:44,240
Speaker 1: Think about this is your gift, my brother in just

3299
02:46:44,280 --> 02:46:46,720
Speaker 1: in case you don't know, you know how to move

3300
02:46:46,800 --> 02:46:51,119
Speaker 1: in difference audiences. You know how to move a different

3301
02:46:51,200 --> 02:46:54,880
Speaker 1: our gifts. Man, that's a real gift, bro. Like, don't

3302
02:46:55,560 --> 02:46:58,880
Speaker 1: don't downplay that, like, don't ever like acknowledge that. Like

3303
02:46:59,120 --> 02:47:01,640
Speaker 1: I was watching it you because I want to do

3304
02:47:01,760 --> 02:47:04,280
Speaker 1: my job. But I'm like I'm looking at it. I'm

3305
02:47:04,360 --> 02:47:06,800
Speaker 1: like that's not something that you have to teach that

3306
02:47:06,879 --> 02:47:07,520
Speaker 1: to yourself.

3307
02:47:07,800 --> 02:47:11,600
Speaker 3: Right, That comes from Yeah, my bad, that's a false

3308
02:47:12,879 --> 02:47:14,680
Speaker 3: sense of of of learning.

3309
02:47:15,280 --> 02:47:15,400
Speaker 1: Right.

3310
02:47:15,920 --> 02:47:20,800
Speaker 4: So it's like, I adapt to every room that I'm in, right,

3311
02:47:21,720 --> 02:47:23,040
Speaker 4: no matter what room that I'm in.

3312
02:47:24,280 --> 02:47:28,000
Speaker 3: Prison allowed us the time to like read things, study things,

3313
02:47:28,040 --> 02:47:30,440
Speaker 3: and stff like that. So it's like, if I'm in

3314
02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:33,760
Speaker 3: a peaceful room, I'm peaceful. If I'm in a room

3315
02:47:33,840 --> 02:47:38,119
Speaker 3: on some bullshit, then I'm with that too. If I'm

3316
02:47:38,200 --> 02:47:40,600
Speaker 3: on a room that's that's. If I'm in a room

3317
02:47:40,680 --> 02:47:44,000
Speaker 3: that's about progression, then that's what we're talking about.

3318
02:47:44,200 --> 02:47:44,880
Speaker 1: That's what we're on.

3319
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:52,879
Speaker 3: Adaptation, adaptation, right, Being able to adapt, that's the way

3320
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:57,480
Speaker 3: you stay here. We ain't always gonna be hot. Niggas

3321
02:47:57,520 --> 02:47:59,520
Speaker 3: gonna be like, oh you washed up, you old nigga,

3322
02:47:59,560 --> 02:48:03,279
Speaker 3: You ain't who you used to be. But that don't

3323
02:48:03,320 --> 02:48:06,040
Speaker 3: define you. You still gotta you still got to be

3324
02:48:06,080 --> 02:48:08,360
Speaker 3: able to turn those corners. So being able to adapt

3325
02:48:08,440 --> 02:48:10,440
Speaker 3: to the times, to be able to adapt to climate,

3326
02:48:10,520 --> 02:48:12,160
Speaker 3: to be able to adapt to the wounds that we're in.

3327
02:48:12,959 --> 02:48:14,879
Speaker 3: No nigga, that's me, but.

3328
02:48:15,240 --> 02:48:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's not normal. Like you, you're a genius

3329
02:48:18,840 --> 02:48:21,840
Speaker 1: man like, trust me. Like I I was. I was

3330
02:48:21,959 --> 02:48:26,920
Speaker 1: taking a jog this morning. Well, my boy Henry, and

3331
02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:29,960
Speaker 1: I was watching all your interviews, watching it all, and

3332
02:48:30,080 --> 02:48:33,480
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this dude is mad smart like

3333
02:48:34,840 --> 02:48:38,200
Speaker 1: and it made me mad that six years ago people

3334
02:48:38,280 --> 02:48:40,360
Speaker 1: well that's all they were saying, Oh, you're a street dude,

3335
02:48:41,000 --> 02:48:44,240
Speaker 1: your dude, and I'm looking at your progress to where

3336
02:48:44,280 --> 02:48:47,280
Speaker 1: you're at. I'm like, yo, man, you you're a smart dude.

3337
02:48:47,360 --> 02:48:47,440
Speaker 6: Bro.

3338
02:48:47,640 --> 02:48:51,160
Speaker 3: Me being a street nigga is st is a footnote

3339
02:48:51,200 --> 02:48:54,279
Speaker 3: in my life. Bro, that's a little that's a small

3340
02:48:54,360 --> 02:48:56,600
Speaker 3: part of my life. You know what I'm saying. Look,

3341
02:48:57,920 --> 02:49:01,960
Speaker 3: that ain't that ain't gonna be ever be something that

3342
02:49:02,040 --> 02:49:03,680
Speaker 3: I denied. That ain't ever gonna be something that I'm

3343
02:49:03,680 --> 02:49:06,119
Speaker 3: ashamed of. That where I come from, what I come from,

3344
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:10,760
Speaker 3: what I've been through the issues that I had. Yeah,

3345
02:49:11,520 --> 02:49:15,119
Speaker 3: but that also helped define you, right, because what you've

3346
02:49:15,160 --> 02:49:17,360
Speaker 3: been through helped shopping you in a certain way to

3347
02:49:17,440 --> 02:49:19,680
Speaker 3: make you who you are. Right, whatever it's meant to

3348
02:49:19,760 --> 02:49:24,080
Speaker 3: be will be. So it's like, yeah, I've been through prisons,

3349
02:49:24,120 --> 02:49:25,760
Speaker 3: I've been through wars, I've been through.

3350
02:49:27,360 --> 02:49:35,040
Speaker 4: I've been through extreme violent situations. Right, L l told

3351
02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:35,240
Speaker 4: me this.

3352
02:49:35,800 --> 02:49:39,240
Speaker 3: LL told me say, Yo, don't let your past failures handcuffed.

3353
02:49:39,959 --> 02:49:41,280
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I said what you mean?

3354
02:49:41,360 --> 02:49:45,920
Speaker 3: He said, Then you might drop a wht album. It

3355
02:49:46,040 --> 02:49:50,640
Speaker 3: won't sell, But the fuck that keep going. Nigga, act

3356
02:49:50,720 --> 02:49:52,680
Speaker 3: like act like you did. Nigga, act like you just

3357
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:56,800
Speaker 3: went platinum. Don't let your past failures and that and

3358
02:49:56,879 --> 02:50:01,040
Speaker 3: that that that's attributed to every angle of life. If

3359
02:50:01,080 --> 02:50:02,680
Speaker 3: you didn't been in prison, you've been in the street.

3360
02:50:02,800 --> 02:50:05,920
Speaker 3: Like just because you started one way, that doesn't determine

3361
02:50:05,959 --> 02:50:10,840
Speaker 3: how you finish. So what we've been involved in this,

3362
02:50:11,160 --> 02:50:13,960
Speaker 3: that don't mean that we can't put our suits on

3363
02:50:14,160 --> 02:50:16,480
Speaker 3: and sit in these rooms and talk to these.

3364
02:50:16,400 --> 02:50:22,040
Speaker 4: People about life and build on some progress. They don't

3365
02:50:22,080 --> 02:50:24,920
Speaker 4: mean that. It don't mean that at all, my nigga.

3366
02:50:25,440 --> 02:50:30,240
Speaker 1: You know, man, I can't thank you enough. Man, I

3367
02:50:30,360 --> 02:50:32,640
Speaker 1: thank you. Man. I wanted to give your flowers.

3368
02:50:32,680 --> 02:50:35,200
Speaker 3: Man, thank you, thank you for giving me my motherfucking flowers.

3369
02:50:35,480 --> 02:50:37,000
Speaker 3: I never had too many flowers.

3370
02:50:40,680 --> 02:50:42,320
Speaker 4: And the fog.

3371
02:50:42,400 --> 02:50:43,959
Speaker 3: I want to put you on somethingcause I'm here. I'm

3372
02:50:44,040 --> 02:50:47,920
Speaker 3: down here for the weekend because a friend of mine

3373
02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:56,000
Speaker 3: is just open up a restaurant in Miami and it is.

3374
02:50:57,520 --> 02:51:00,960
Speaker 4: Probably going to be the top restaurant in the city.

3375
02:51:01,200 --> 02:51:04,040
Speaker 1: Talk about it. It's called Neuveau.

3376
02:51:05,240 --> 02:51:08,520
Speaker 3: Shout out to my people, Ebony Caro, Shout out the wrong.

3377
02:51:10,240 --> 02:51:12,320
Speaker 3: Shout out the Yandy because she's involved with that. It

3378
02:51:12,440 --> 02:51:15,480
Speaker 3: was yes, big grand opening last night, and this is

3379
02:51:15,520 --> 02:51:17,720
Speaker 3: why I'm down here, We out here celebrating that. You

3380
02:51:17,800 --> 02:51:20,640
Speaker 3: seeing what I'm saying is it's in one what Okay?

3381
02:51:21,240 --> 02:51:23,840
Speaker 3: So it's right here, right here there, right here, it's

3382
02:51:24,879 --> 02:51:27,280
Speaker 3: New Veau. What I'm telling you, the food is good.

3383
02:51:27,640 --> 02:51:28,280
Speaker 1: You like y'all?

3384
02:51:28,360 --> 02:51:29,600
Speaker 4: Come on, I've been right now.

3385
02:51:30,720 --> 02:51:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do that.

3386
02:51:32,280 --> 02:51:35,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's go. Absolutely, you can do that. All right,

3387
02:51:35,959 --> 02:51:38,240
Speaker 1: he can do that? Hey you do that?

3388
02:51:41,879 --> 02:51:51,160
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