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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode one five to five

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Speaker 1: of the Hammer Territory podcast. My name is Brad Roland.

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Speaker 1: I'll be joined in a moment by a special guest

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Speaker 1: on today's podcast. His name is Goro Vadak. He covers

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves farm system for Peach Day Prospects, a

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Speaker 1: podcast they should be listening to as well as He

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Speaker 1: is a writer at Battery Power as well as Baseball

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Speaker 1: Perspectives and does all kinds of stuff in the Braves

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Speaker 1: and baseball related space. But I wanted to tee this

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Speaker 1: up a little bit because we've recorded it on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: evening before the Braves played on Wednesday. Nothing massive from

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Speaker 1: today for the Braves. They did win on Wednesday afternoon

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Speaker 1: a dull and Jerkson Profar's first ever Braves played appearance,

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Speaker 1: which is nice to see. Both he and Azzie Albi's

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Speaker 1: who had not played to date, debuted in toy twenty

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Speaker 1: five on Wednesday. That's good to see as well. Matt

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Speaker 1: Olsen and a towering home run. Matt Olsen is quite

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Speaker 1: good at baseball. Drake Balwin, who will actually be discussing

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Speaker 1: and on the pitching side, Adrian smith Schaub looked quite good,

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Speaker 1: and that reminds me to kind of go ahead and

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Speaker 1: say this again. We record this on Tuesday before Smith

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Speaker 1: Shauber pitched. We'll be discussing Smith Shaver and Baldwin and Kim,

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Speaker 1: kim I Andiddi and many others on this farm system

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Speaker 1: check in with Gore. But I want to at least

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Speaker 1: give you that a little bit of timestamp basically on

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Speaker 1: this podcast to let you know that we record this yesterday. Also,

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Speaker 1: i'd encourage you to listen to the podcast or watch

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Speaker 1: it from Tuesday evening with myself and my usual co

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Speaker 1: host Scott Coleman, we discussed the last with the Braves,

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Speaker 1: some roster cuts, all that fun stuff that's spring training.

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Speaker 1: We are rolling along into spring training. If you are

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Speaker 1: a new listener, welcome board. We are part of the

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Speaker 1: Foulad Territory network of podcasts. We are covering the Braves

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Speaker 1: year round here at Hammer Territory, so please subscribe anywhere

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Speaker 1: the podcast as well. All right, no, we're further delay here.

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Speaker 1: We'll dive in right now to prospect talk with Gorof

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Speaker 1: and here we go with that. We are joined today

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Speaker 1: by a special guest, someone I've wanted to happen the

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Speaker 1: podcast for a while. And you might not remember this,

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Speaker 1: but I do. Goref you were at least a couple

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Speaker 1: times on the old Talking Job podcast with me and

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Speaker 1: Carlos Calaso, long long ago, and this is kind of

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Speaker 1: that same podcast. It's mutated a few times, but here

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Speaker 1: we are, Gorey, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Are you man?

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Speaker 3: So g happy to be here? Thanks for having me. Brad,

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Speaker 3: you're just excited about baseball. Hardly got any work done

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Speaker 3: today at that you know, the split squad game, so

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Speaker 3: hardly got any work done. We're entering prime. How does

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Speaker 3: Brad's sleep season? So looking forward to that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've certainly arrived. As soon as baseball starts. It's

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Speaker 1: already bad enough with basketball, but yeah, once there are

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Speaker 1: So spread trains actually not so bad beause the games

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Speaker 1: This is not exactly a rosy thing to start with,

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Speaker 1: Like I try to monitor the guys that matter, but

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Speaker 3: there's a there has been a really high increase in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense to me, And I guess the

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Speaker 3: I think it's really a few different things. One, it's

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Speaker 3: So like, there's there's that for sure. Secondly, is those

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's like a really a few different things,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about it till right now, so forgive

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first round record isn't very great. I personally,

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Speaker 3: been a clear delineation, right You've seen the draft be

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Speaker 3: I simply don't see a world where Drake Baldwin is

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Speaker 3: It's one of the tougher situations that I can really

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Speaker 1: Is that situation that would like bother you as prospect

432
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Speaker 1: development guy that I'm putting you in that in that

433
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Speaker 1: role obviously on this podcast. Is that reasonable? Like, is

434
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Speaker 1: there a point of the season where it does make

435
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Speaker 1: sense to have to kind of have him called up

436
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Speaker 1: even with Murphy available and figures crossed playing well if

437
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Speaker 1: he plays.

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Speaker 3: A full season of ball this year like he did

439
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Speaker 3: in Triple A last year. Personally, I think it's okay

440
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Speaker 3: if you have him up in the majors just in

441
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Speaker 3: case something happens. He would at that point he would

442
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Speaker 3: be at the part of his progression where he's gotten

443
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Speaker 3: nothing else to show in Triple A. He's gotten nothing

444
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Speaker 3: else to show in minor league baseball, So going against

445
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Speaker 3: some guy that pitched in the major a handful of

446
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Speaker 3: times doesn't really do him justice. It doesn't make him better.

447
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Speaker 3: So there conceivably, yeah, I could see that kind of

448
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Speaker 3: scenario play out, especially if he plays at the same

449
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Speaker 3: at the exact same level that he did last year,

450
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Speaker 3: because what he did with that bat, what he did

451
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Speaker 3: with his batting profile was was really truly it's tough

452
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Speaker 3: not to say elite, that's how good he was. So

453
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Speaker 3: it I could see that situation play out, I would, honestly,

454
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate it. That means he was as good

455
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Speaker 3: as he was last year, and he's going to be

456
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Speaker 3: a pretty much a not a sure thing, but he's

457
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Speaker 3: going to be a good thing in the major leagues.

458
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Speaker 3: And then you just find a way to get his

459
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Speaker 3: bad in there.

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Speaker 1: And there is you know, the thing about Catcher is

461
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Speaker 1: there is time he wouldn't It's not like he would

462
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Speaker 1: just never play, like the brains have not one to

463
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Speaker 1: call guys up to ride the bench, which makes total sense,

464
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Speaker 1: like you know this, but when they called up von Grisslin,

465
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Speaker 1: the first time. It's because they had it. Ozzie was

466
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Speaker 1: hurt and they had they kind of had to go

467
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Speaker 1: to We didn't have to, but they chose to do

468
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Speaker 1: that when he could play every day for a while.

469
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Speaker 1: Even with ma Choe Albaretz, they did it for a

470
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Speaker 1: little while. This last year. He's a different period of prospect.

471
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Speaker 1: But they don't like to call guys up just to

472
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Speaker 1: sit the bench. But at catcher, he would be playing

473
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Speaker 1: two ordred times a week, and that's more reasonable. I

474
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Speaker 1: feel like, not not in April, I think we agree,

475
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Speaker 1: like you don't do that right away, but once it

476
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Speaker 1: what's up? I almost said once it definitely becomes if

477
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Speaker 1: it becomes extremely clear that he's not learning anything, to

478
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Speaker 1: kind of say what you said, like, okay, and look

479
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Speaker 1: he is. I think he's better than Chadwick Trump. Like

480
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Speaker 1: we agree that Chadwick Trump is like a perfectly reasonable

481
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Speaker 1: backup catcher. And one of my hobby horses has always

482
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Speaker 1: been people just don't understand how bad backup catcher is

483
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Speaker 1: in baseball. And I don't mean that in a negative

484
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Speaker 1: about Chadwick Trump, but like he's a very normal backup

485
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Speaker 1: catcher in Major League Baseball. The Braves just happen to

486
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Speaker 1: have two awesome catchers a lot for a long time now,

487
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Speaker 1: but most teams do not have that. In fact, like

488
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Speaker 1: twenty eight teams don't have that. Like it's not a

489
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Speaker 1: normal thing to have a guy like Darnault as a

490
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Speaker 1: number two catcher, like he was the best one of

491
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Speaker 1: those in the league the last few years, So I.

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Speaker 3: Get, I definitely agree with you there. It's not normal

493
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Speaker 3: to be in the same position that the Braggs are

494
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Speaker 3: in and he would still be getting playing time. So

495
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Speaker 3: honestly that I think that might be like the best

496
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Speaker 3: case scenario because that means Drake is doing really well

497
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Speaker 3: and he's forcing himself up in Atlanta. We get, you know,

498
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Speaker 3: it's not much Sehn. Murphy is a bad catcher. He

499
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Speaker 3: had one bad season.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, there's also the whole thing about Murphy where

501
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: look the Braves and look, they may break this rule

502
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Speaker 1: at some point, but it's been a pretty unwritten rule

503
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Speaker 1: that the Braves are not trading guys that they extended

504
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Speaker 1: on these team friendly deals. And I've already seen people

505
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Speaker 1: and I get it from fans like why don't you

506
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Speaker 1: trade Murphy? And I'm not saying they won't or they couldn't,

507
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Speaker 1: but they won't do it now for sure, and like

508
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Speaker 1: Alex has been pretty clear he doesn't want to do

509
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Speaker 1: that on these deals that were signed the way that

510
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Speaker 1: Murphy's deal was signed. Now it becomes different if he's

511
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Speaker 1: tailing off, you know, if you are the pessimist on Trimurkhy,

512
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Speaker 1: which I am not. I'm an optimist on Murphy generally speaking.

513
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Speaker 1: But if he's bad again, it becomes a discussion for sure.

514
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Speaker 1: But at the moment, I think I'm making on about

515
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Speaker 1: back from her, which makes it it's again, it's a

516
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Speaker 1: good problem to have, but it's a it's a I'm

517
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Speaker 1: using problem in a very very loose context, but it

518
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Speaker 1: creates some challenges. So beyond ball, what don't we talking

519
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Speaker 1: about all day? But we'll stop. The two guys I

520
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Speaker 1: think as far as in the major league discussion that

521
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Speaker 1: have been out there this winter into spring are Smith Shavor,

522
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Speaker 1: who's already been up a few times, and waldrop as

523
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Speaker 1: recording that's Walter has already been sent to minor league camp,

524
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Speaker 1: so it seems like he's off the radar for now

525
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Speaker 1: as far as like the major league roster. But those

526
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Speaker 1: two guys have both debut already Waldrop first round pick,

527
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Speaker 1: but they're very prominent names that people know what do

528
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Speaker 1: you make of them right now? And you can go

529
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Speaker 1: one of the time if you want to, But like

530
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Speaker 1: they're on that periphery where the Braves are. Clearly it

531
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Speaker 1: seems like leaning towards we rather have Grant Holmes and

532
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Speaker 1: Ian Anderson mix starts than these guys right now. But

533
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Speaker 1: they're also big names compared to a lot of prospects.

534
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Speaker 1: So like, I guess I'll just ask you kind of

535
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Speaker 1: a check in on where you are on Waldrop and

536
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Speaker 1: Spieshavre definitely.

537
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Speaker 3: So when it comes to Smith Chavor, I'm still as

538
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Speaker 3: high as ever. You know, last year, if you really

539
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: dig into to some of the tape, you could tell

540
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 3: that the Braves are really focusing on some of the secondaries,

541
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Speaker 3: and towards the end of the season it looked like

542
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 3: he really found the true slider that he wants to

543
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: use really in high leverage situations moving forward. That combined

544
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Speaker 3: with some injuries to start the season, really kind of

545
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: derailed his overall stats. But I think and personally I

546
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Speaker 3: believe that A. J. Smith Shabber will have his breakout

547
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Speaker 3: year this year. There's just too much. As long as

548
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Speaker 3: he stays healthy, there's just too much to like about it.

549
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Speaker 3: And I think the only reason his stock is down

550
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Speaker 3: really and why he's not being considered for that, you know,

551
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: those last two spots in the rotation, is he hasn't

552
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: shown that consistency. But the skill is absolutely there, and

553
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Speaker 3: if he's able to put it together, I think not

554
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Speaker 3: only does he take over one of those spots in

555
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Speaker 3: the rotation, he's a mainstay in the rotation for quite

556
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Speaker 3: a while. When it comes to first and Waldrip, I

557
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Speaker 3: am a lot lower on, and that's mainly unfortunate. That's unfortunate. Yeah,

558
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Speaker 3: you know, I really really want to like him because

559
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: he's got a true eighty grade splitter that is one

560
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: of the best pitches I've ever seen in my life.

561
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Speaker 3: But the biggest problem with him is his fastball. Not

562
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: just command, but the shape of his fastball. It is

563
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: quite flat, and so really you can hitters just kind

564
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 3: of tee off of it, and you can, you know,

565
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: you can sit back and let the splitter do its work.

566
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Speaker 3: But when he's forced to throw that fastball, it's either

567
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Speaker 3: gonna be a ball or it's gonna be something that

568
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: every hitter can dream of. And it sucks to say

569
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Speaker 3: that because I want to be you know, you want

570
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Speaker 3: to be someone that talks about and like watches prospects

571
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Speaker 3: all the time. You see what Herson Walder can do.

572
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: He was throwing ninety eight miles an hour. He does

573
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Speaker 3: have that wipeout splitter. One of the best, It would

574
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Speaker 3: be one of the best pitchers in the majors right now,

575
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Speaker 3: but I just haven't seen it from him. And when

576
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Speaker 3: you're really forced to be a true one pitch pitcher,

577
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: that already changes your profile. It's more of a reliever.

578
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Speaker 3: And when that one pitch is just a splitter and

579
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Speaker 3: he doesn't have at least a solid enough fastball to

580
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: keep hitters at bay, it just doesn't scream good profiles

581
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: for me. And you know, that's the biggest thing I'm

582
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: watching from Hurston is how is his fastball shape. Is

583
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: he gonna perhaps throw a like a cutter. Is he

584
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: gonna have some sinking action to it? Like that's the

585
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: biggest thing to take for me to take from Hurston

586
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: this year. If he's able to show me something different there,

587
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: I think his stock really goes back up. But for

588
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: right now, like I The reason that we have him

589
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: in the top ten and battery power is that eighty

590
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: grade splitter, Like it's absolutely filthy in a ninety amount

591
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: our fastball. That's a combo that streams MLB ready, But

592
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: the pitches just aren't there. And right now I don't

593
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: see him anything more than like a low leverage reliever

594
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Speaker 3: in the majors.

595
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting obviously, and people to kind of forgotten.

596
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Speaker 1: I know, you have it a good cover because Walter

597
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: parrived later. He's older than Smith Shover. People I think

598
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Speaker 1: don't really understand, like I get why, because yeah, I

599
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: think he was drafted two years later. The Shawan versus

600
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Speaker 1: only twenty two, and it will be twenty two this

601
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: entire season. Despite the fact that he feels like he's

602
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: been around for a long time and he hasn't been.

603
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: He's still very young. I always kind of wondered, and look,

604
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Speaker 1: I'm not an experts stud first first to say, I

605
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: was wondering if like there was something in there about

606
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Speaker 1: Waldrip that was like gonna end up being a reliever.

607
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Speaker 1: Not that they drafted him as a reliever, you don't

608
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: do that, but like there was maybe that was a

609
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: fallback option in there in their minds because of what

610
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: you just said, Like you could be a one pitch

611
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: pitcher as a reliever. We've seen that happen. It's it's

612
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: you could function in that way. You can't. You can't

613
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: start though. If you're a wood pitch guy, probably not work.

614
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: So that's interesting to me. And obviously they're not going

615
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: to bail on him early because look, he's a pressure

616
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: und pick. They obviously believe in him. But there is

617
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: a world that I've floated this before, like maybe you

618
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: look up and it's July or August and he's in

619
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Speaker 1: the he's in the Braves bullpen, like because that's just

620
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: what their best role for him is and they might

621
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: need help there. Like this is a group, it's got

622
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Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty in the bullpen that we can

623
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: talk about or not talk about. But that would be

624
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: shocking to me. No, it's mishavor. I think he'll start,

625
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: but Walter, but I would I would not blow me

626
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: away if he was in the bullpen at some point

627
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: this year just to see not even just because of him,

628
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: but because like it might play up there and it

629
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: might be intrigued by him being able to help them

630
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: in that role.

631
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Speaker 3: I don't know honestly, just quickly, if persons in that

632
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 3: role this year, that that means he's had a phenomenal

633
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five and that would make me he's just

634
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: really happy, and so that's like an that's a complete

635
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: win situation.

636
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, and I'm sure it would I'm

637
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: sure it wouldn't always be viewed that way, but I

638
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: think you and I agree, Like, if you're contributing to

639
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: the major league club at age twenty twenty three, that's

640
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: usually a good sign, even though and look, it's not

641
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: a death sentence either, Like there have been plenty of

642
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: examples of guys who were high pedigree pitchers that were

643
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: relievers first in the majors and then they kind of

644
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: worked their way out of that. It started starting later.

645
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you can never start again. But

646
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: they might be like, all right, Hirston, this is what

647
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna do for now. And look, they're they're contending team.

648
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: If they were the Pirates, they wouldn't do that. Maybe

649
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: the Pirates is a backaple because the actually have a

650
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: lot of pitchure, but pick a bad team that's not

651
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: the Pirates. They wouldn't do that, but when you're trying

652
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: to win, trying to win the World Series, and that

653
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: might be what they think is the best thing in

654
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: the moment. This is not exactly the most important thing

655
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: on a prospect discussion, But is there anybody besides Waldrop

656
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: it's the Shavre that you think might throw real major

657
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: leaguettings that's of prospect this year? Because look, last year

658
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: was Swallobach. I know there were fans uh of him

659
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: in prospect circles, but I don't think anybody with Trusera

660
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: would have been like, Hey, that guy's gonna be an

661
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: awesome major league starter from day one in like May

662
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: of last season. So maybe something like that, but you know,

663
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: and you can't project that. But is there a guy

664
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: that you think like could help the major league club

665
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: this year that's a prospect still that's you're special.

666
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: Well, definitely, and it's gonna be of course, on the

667
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: pitching side of things, I think there's really four players

668
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: that you could that you can look at, uh, if

669
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: it's going the starting pitching route. You have Lucas Braun

670
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: who was down in Mississippi last year. He's got fastball, slider, curveball,

671
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: change up. He's got good control of all of them.

672
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: He can throw it inside and outside. He's last year

673
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: look up, his number is fantastic. He was really intriguing.

674
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: He had great command last year and that really helped

675
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: his evaluation. Another player is Drew Hackenberg, who had a

676
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: phenomenal twenty twenty four. I was lower on him. He

677
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: showed that heavy, sinking fastball that really played up extremely well.

678
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: I think he had somewhat somewhere near a sixty percent

679
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: ground ball rate last year, but he combos out with

680
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: a slider and a solid cutter. I think those are

681
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: two starting pitching options that might and I think they

682
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: actually will. Like you said, like the Braves, I think

683
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: that at thirteen to fifteen starting pitchers or something like

684
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: that last year, to make it through a full season,

685
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: you're going to have to throw some players out there

686
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: that aren't on your, you know, necessarily your radar at

687
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: that time. So I think those are two starting pitching

688
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: prospects that we could see and we might see that

689
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: next year. In terms of relievers, you then have Domingo

690
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: Gonzalez and Hayden Harris. Domingo's got that really nice fastball

691
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: slider profile that a lot of relievers do. He was sensational,

692
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: I think a fourteen strikeout for now our rate, and

693
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: he was walking a hair under four. And then with

694
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: Hayden Harris, he's one of the most intriguing prospects I

695
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: can remember because he throws a ninety one and ninety three,

696
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 3: but his arm angle in the shape and his vertical

697
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: approach angle is so dynamic that no one can hit it.

698
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: He has a near fifteen strikeout for nine rate. I

699
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: think his kate his whiff rate on the fastball was

700
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: like fifty percent or fifty five percent. He's a bit

701
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: one dimensional with just the fastball has change up lagging

702
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: behind just a little bit, so you know, more exposure

703
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: to major league hitting might have a little more risk there.

704
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 3: But he's still someone that because of that incredibly unique

705
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: fastball that it can play in the major league level.

706
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 3: And we could see him in the reliever position as

707
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: soon as this year, which would be kind of insane

708
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: to think about because we're not even that long removed

709
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: from him being an undrafted free agent who got his

710
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: name out from LinkedIn, Like you just don't. It's a

711
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: really incredible story. So I'm personally reading for warm.

712
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: Quite a bit yeah, that would be a while when

713
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: it look at the brace to have a knack for

714
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: finding these guys with great st I mean, you know,

715
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Grant Holmes last year wasn't quite bad, but like Grant

716
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: Holmes was not it was a former top prospect to

717
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: be fair, it was a big time but was kind

718
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: of way off the radar and then something came back

719
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: and Tyler Matsik and how many guys that can they

720
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: do the weird crazy redemption story on would be very

721
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: interesting for sure, And look you mentioned it, but just

722
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: to say the number last year that I think they

723
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: had thirteen guys make a start, and I want to

724
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: say the previous year was like fourteen or fifteen made

725
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: a start in the majors and that's you know, some

726
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: of those are sometimes they're like, you know, openers or whatever.

727
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: But you know, guys who started games in the last

728
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: couple of years. Darius Fines Kolby aller two years ago,

729
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Yanni Charino started games two years ago, Alan Winen's the

730
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: started games the last two seasons, like Dylan Dodd started again.

731
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, it's not always going

732
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: to be a guy that you're going to pencil in

733
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: for a month, but you might need another arm somewhere.

734
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: And the Braves know that Alex is very familiar and

735
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: it kind of acknowledged that in a way that guys don't.

736
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, we're gonna need twelve of these guys,

737
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: not just five, not even just six or seven. I mean, look,

738
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: I have a heart of Bryce Elder. Our podcast has

739
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: heard of Bryce Elder. Bryce Elder is a perfectly fine

740
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: depth piece, you know what I mean. Like, I don't

741
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: think Bryce Aulder is very good, but Bryce Elder in

742
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot of systems will be your fourth or fifth guy,

743
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: and he's like their eighth guy in this on this team,

744
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: so it's it's pretty normal. I would say, look, I

745
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: want to ask you about some guys that are not

746
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: close to the majors. Keep that in mind now for people.

747
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Keep that in mind now as I'm saying that. One

748
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: of them is cam Kmminett, who referenced earlier the first

749
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: ROP pick from this last year, still super young, far away,

750
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: but uh are you are you? Are you enjoying I

751
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: think you already the candid back a little bit, but

752
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: you like that draft pick when it happened. What have

753
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: you seen from him so far? Are you intrigued still

754
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: in the way that you were when he was drafted?

755
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: Oh? My, I the fact that he using fall is

756
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: kind of a rough, a rough adjective because they're not adjective.

757
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that it's him being available on the

758
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: Braves was honestly great. It's not that crazy because there

759
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: were a lot of really good players that went ahead

760
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: of him, but the fact that he was available was

761
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: just fantastic for the Braves. He's got four pitches as

762
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 3: is right now that are MLP average to plus. He's

763
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: got fantastic control of all four of them. You just

764
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: don't see it with a prospect that young, for him

765
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: to have that much control and that much poise on

766
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: the mound, that repeatable of a delivery. I am. To

767
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: say I'm excited about watching him next season or this

768
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: come up to me season would really really be underselling it.

769
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: Of he's one of the most what's the best way

770
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: for me to say this, He's one of the prospects

771
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: I have most been looking forward to and during the offseason.

772
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: I think that's the best way to say it in

773
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: terms of just overall ability and what the possibilities are

774
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: for him. Like you're looking at someone that could potentially

775
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: be a front end number one pitcher. That's not something

776
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 3: that comes along that often a lot of players, like

777
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: the true ace potential is something that's limited to like

778
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: what maybe eight to ten pitchers across Major League Baseball.

779
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: You know, the true dominating figurehead that you have that

780
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: you build your staff around. And while I'm not saying

781
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: Cam is there right now, he has the potential to

782
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: become one of those because he already has three above

783
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: average pitches, and he's got a quick developing curve ball,

784
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: and he's by all accounts from everyone I've talked to you,

785
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: he's got a great head on his shoulder as someone

786
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: that's ready to get into it this season and prove himself.

787
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: That's exactly what you want from a prospect. That's exactly

788
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: what you want from someone that represents your team. And

789
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: I have to imagine the Berets are were and are

790
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: still over the moon about being able to add a

791
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: player of his caliber.

792
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. I realize this when prepping for this.

793
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't even turned nineteen until August. He's gonna be

794
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: eighteen for most of the season, which is pretty wild stuff,

795
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: which is why look He's not like he's not gonna

796
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: pish in the majors this year, to be very clear everybody,

797
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: But when you're that young, you're as polosis as he

798
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: seems to be. What's like a reasonable track for him,

799
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: Like where does he end this season? Like what level

800
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: is he to be at by the end of the

801
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: year in your mind, if things are going well in

802
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: the way that you're hoping that they will.

803
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: I think, if things go very well, we could see

804
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: him end the season in Mississippi. I can see a

805
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: bulk of this year being in Rome, and I think,

806
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: you know, he starts it out in Augusta, then he'll

807
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: move up to Rome for a vast majority of the season,

808
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: you know once we enter end of July. If he's

809
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: cam kimminity, if he's doing what we expect him to do,

810
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: that's someone that can end up finding himself in Mississippi

811
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: as a nineteen year old, which again, like I was

812
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: a freshman in college at the age that he is

813
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: right now, he should be studying for AP exams. Like

814
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 3: the fact that he's doing what he is at that

815
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: age and he's got this kind of promise it you

816
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: should anyone watching go out of your way to watch

817
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: him pitch this year. He's going to be someone that

818
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: you're going to want to watch development.

819
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm realizing as we're talking. He's the first proath

820
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: that I could say that i've covered quote unquote that

821
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: I am literally twenty years older than because he was

822
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: born He was born in two thousand and six and

823
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: I was born in twenty twenty years. You can do

824
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: the math. Everybody at twenty years before that. That's wild stuff.

825
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: But hey, he's Uh. I'm not an expert on eighteen

826
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: year old prospect pictures, but I've liked what I've seen

827
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: him every and by the way, everybody that I've talked to,

828
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: people that I trust, like core of everybody's in on him.

829
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm a buyer until i'm not. So there

830
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: you go, I'm gonna do a hard shift on. Talking

831
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: about one more guy that I forgot to ask you

832
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: about earlier. That's a familiar name, and he came up

833
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: earlier briefly. Was Nacho Alvarez. He's always someone we get

834
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: asked about because he's made he's made the majors already.

835
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: H he you know, is close to being there. But

836
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: also people were wondering all winter why we weren't talking

837
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: about him more at shortstop because of the RCA bad

838
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: season from last year, and we were pretty sketchical of

839
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 1: Orlando overall. I will think he actually, just for the record,

840
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: I think could be better than this year than it

841
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: was last year. But that's not the highest part of

842
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: clear when it comes to Orlando. But people were like,

843
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: what trying to square that honestly with Okay, you guys

844
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: don't like our CEO, why not? Why not Nacho? Essentially,

845
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: so that's a way of asking about Nacho al ARUs

846
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: what do you think of him at this point time,

847
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: because it seems like there was kind of a split

848
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: on him in general, but like how good of a

849
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: prospect he is and how much like he could help

850
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: the Braves if he had to play, or maybe he

851
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: would look at if Arcia starts out slow again, maybe

852
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: he does play some more this year after kind of

853
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: a rough obviously a rough stint in the majors last year.

854
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: So for me, when it comes to Natcha, my evaluation

855
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: of him, the reason why and I think I can

856
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: speak for the rest of the Battery tier team, the

857
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: reason we have him in our top five is because

858
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: his floor is that MLB quality utility player no matter what.

859
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: Getting that MLB grade is something that a lot of

860
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: prospects don't get. So the bare minimum of him being

861
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 3: a major league quality player does mean a lot. However,

862
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: I say that because after we everyone was talking about

863
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: Orlando arcia struggles. I don't think you can move on

864
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: from Orlando to Nacho one because of that overall downward

865
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: shift in defense at the shortstop position being one and

866
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: then two. I just don't necessarily believe in and Nacho's

867
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: approach at the plate. He's a very contact heavy. Let

868
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: me first start it by saying his approach at the

869
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: plate in terms of knowing the strike zone is on

870
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: another level from most positional prospects. He knows what's the ball,

871
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: he knows what's a strike. He's not going to swing

872
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: at anything outside the zone. The issue I have with

873
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: him is his approach in terms of he always tries

874
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: to go the opposite way. He tries to always go

875
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: the opposite way. He doesn't really pull to the power gaps,

876
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: and from that you see a complete lack of power

877
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: in his overall numbers, especially if you look at triple

878
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: A last year. I don't. He's someone that lives off

879
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: of high is going to be like a high OVP

880
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: because of that average, not necessarily because he's going to

881
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: walk a ton, but because he's going to constantly make

882
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: contact and that does have that's a skill. I mean,

883
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: you saw Luisa Rise. He's made a long career out

884
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: of literally being able to just hit the ball. Uh,

885
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: And that again, I'm not going to take away from that.

886
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: I still believe he's a major league talent, but he's

887
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: not necessarily someone that I would want to see starting

888
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: for a World Series type team just because that high

889
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: end potential with that that isn't necessarily there when it

890
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: comes to someone like Orlando. We saw what could happen

891
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: if everything is clicking for him. That's a top you know,

892
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: top fifteen shortstop in baseball, and when you factor in

893
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: the defense, that's something a lot of teams would absolutely love.

894
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: But when the contact wasn't there, of course, as the

895
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: ranking went down, that's something that's something more along the

896
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: lines of what I believe Nacho can do. Again, that's

897
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: a long journeyman MLB career and some someone that's going

898
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 3: to be super happy at the end of his career.

899
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: But in terms of like what you want representing shortstop

900
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: in a World Series contending team, not necessarily where I

901
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: could see him excel. However, if you have him on

902
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: the bench, someone that can take you know, spot starts

903
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: at third, at set, second, uh, sometimes at short, and

904
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: then he can play for He's played first a couple

905
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: of times too. Just positional versatility is his big key

906
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: and something I could see the Braves towaying with a

907
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: lot more this year. But in terms of like high impact,

908
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: I just I don't see it. Yeah, let me just say, yeah,

909
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: who knows what happened over the offseason. Maybe he made

910
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: some adjustments to a swing and is looking two more

911
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: to pull the boar, to pull the ball more, and

912
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: with that comes with a little more powered and some

913
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: of those singles become doubles. If he does that, then yeah,

914
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to keep him down in minor

915
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: league baseball. But for right now, I I think you

916
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: let him start and triple A. You see what you

917
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: get and if it's similar, then you know what you have,

918
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: and that's going to be a long time MLB player

919
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: that's more of a journeyman, you know, utility prospect and

920
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: that's not taking away anything from him.

921
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a good synopsis from what I

922
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: understand too. And the thing about you know, playing him

923
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: over our seer or whatever, is that the Braves have

924
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: told us not even show it. They've told us with

925
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: their mouths as well as their action, is that they

926
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: want the defense at shortstop and they value that, and

927
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: Orlando is just considerably better at shortstop's by all accounts,

928
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: it seems like defensively. And also if you're going to

929
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: go to the young hot shot guy, you would want

930
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: there to be like a like an upside play there,

931
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: and it seems like that's like the opposite of Nottcha Like,

932
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: he's not an upside play. He's more of a like you,

933
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 1: just like he's projectable in some ways. So that's maybe

934
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: a shortstops as of why he would not be a

935
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: superlogical option to do that. I mean, we've already seen

936
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: it in I don't want to wake too much of

937
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: this as we're talking in you know, late February, he's

938
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: playing third base in spring training. He's he's not he's

939
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: not even playing short stop. It's praaying training. No, I know,

940
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: it's oldly been a couple of games. But like you know, today,

941
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: as we're talking, on Tuesday, he played in the same

942
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: game as Orlando. They played next to each other. He

943
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: played third and played shortstop. It's probably a good idea

944
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, he's not necessarily going to be

945
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: a shortstop forever, but hey, he's twenty one years old.

946
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: That's also fair to say. And he didn't have that run.

947
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: I know you remember this, probably even more than I do.

948
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: He had that like ten days last year in oneette

949
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: where he just was like unconscious that people got very,

950
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: very very excited, which I understand, but it was probably

951
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: not entirely real.

952
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like, yeah, I think that was that

953
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: was a special time. But unfortunately you could you could

954
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: look at the overall macro numbers and it just it wasn't.

955
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: You could tell it wasn't something necessarily sustainable. But again,

956
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm not taking anything away from him. I still believe

957
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: he's a major his bare minimum is a major league player,

958
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: and that's something I could never say for my life.

959
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh of course, I mean, of course. And look, he

960
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: is a he's a real prospect. It's just not it's

961
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: not a super high upside sexy one. But because and

962
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: just I'll put one number on it, because I have

963
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: it now in front of me, I believe. Yeah, he

964
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: has a career three ninety six slugging percentage in the minors. Yeah,

965
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: which is pretty limiting. I mean, you can't be a

966
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: good player. It's just that if you can't slug four hundred,

967
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: it's not in the miners. You're probably gonna have a

968
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: ton of pop in your bat at the major league level.

969
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: This is probably what it seems like once you change

970
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: your approach considerably. Man, I've we've gone longer than I

971
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: thought the week gone. So my apologies on that last

972
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: thing before I get it. Yeah here, iway was asking

973
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: this to anybody that's covering draft. I know you had

974
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: your favorites. You probably talked about them already at some point.

975
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: Smashovvershi took a guy that you like a lot. Do

976
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: you have a favorite guy or two or three? How

977
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: many money one day and we have not talked about

978
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: in the system. That's like maybe they're far away, but

979
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: someone that you want to shed your light on and

980
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of be like, hey, one of my guys, anybody

981
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: likes unfortunate. I think that's actually I worked for I

982
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: worked with Eric for so long on a battery power

983
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: that he had. His lesson guys was like obviously Mike

984
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Soroka was like his guy, but also he had like

985
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: a like what I asked that question was like, hey,

986
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: it's like you pull up the scroll and there's fifteen

987
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: names on it. He couldn't, he couldn't just name two people.

988
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: So I had a feeling that it was gonna happen

989
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: with you too, which is fine, go ahead.

990
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: I'll be, I'll be. I'll be as quick as possible

991
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: when I go. If we remove Cam Kimminiti from the equation,

992
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: you know, Jean Jean Carloslara is probably at the top

993
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: of my list. He's got two MLB pitches with his

994
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: unbelievable four seam fastball and slider combination is just the

995
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: command that needs to come. He's someone that could be

996
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 3: in Atlanta this year out you know, going from there.

997
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: The newest international prospect signing, Diego Torrens, is super intriguing,

998
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: a true five tool player. Along with the other two

999
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: that they signed, Jose Perdomo and Luis Squan Nippa. I

1000
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: feel like I'm taking the easy way out by just

1001
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: naming a bunch of players, but these are these are

1002
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: players I'm really focusing on this year. Also from last

1003
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: year's draft was Nick Montgomery, the power hitting catcher that

1004
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: really came out of nowhere that the Braves drafted. I

1005
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. I didn't even realize he was available when

1006
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: the Braves picked him, But I was over the moon

1007
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: when they did. One player that is coming back from injury,

1008
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 3: that has had a bit of a struggle for his career,

1009
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: but I'm still very high on is Ambioris Tavares, the

1010
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: shortstop that was with I believe Augustina Rome last year

1011
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: before he broke a bone in his wrist. With him,

1012
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: if we're thinking about Orlando Arcia's you know, really high

1013
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: upside and that's you know, plus defense that short with

1014
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: really high power potential. When I say high, I mean,

1015
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: you know, for the short stop position, that's something. And

1016
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: Ambioris is right. He provides genuine Gold Glove, Platinum Glove

1017
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: winning defense at short like there's no He's fantastic at

1018
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: the position. His footwork is fantastic, He's got a cannon

1019
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: for an arm. His power potential at the plate is

1020
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: honestly that you know I can project it at twenty

1021
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: you know, eighteen to twenty five home ors somewhere around there.

1022
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 3: The thing with him is can he make enough contact?

1023
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 3: And what's really gotten the way of his development are

1024
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: these unfortunate injuries. He's had thorastic syndrome, you know, I

1025
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: think that happened his first year. Last year again, as

1026
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: soon as he had that hot streak, his power hot streak,

1027
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 3: he got hit in the wrists and fractured a bone.

1028
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: He's been sapped just the worst injury luck. But when

1029
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: you talk to him, and I was able to speak

1030
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 3: with speak with someone close to him last year after

1031
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: his injury, I wanted to ask what his mindset was

1032
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: because this is like the third year in a row

1033
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: where he's gotten hurt, and this one at a particularly

1034
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: terrible time. And it was for you know, I don't

1035
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: remember for were, but it was along the lines of, like,

1036
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, it happens, I'm okay with it. I'm here

1037
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: to you know, learn from it and get better for

1038
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: next season. And that's you know, when you go back.

1039
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, we wrote about it on

1040
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Battery Powered about how it looked like he disappeared during games.

1041
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: But now that seems to be completely gone apparently. Now

1042
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: he's just a model teammate, and he's someone that works

1043
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: extremely hard off, you know, outside of games, and someone that.

1044
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I really think his skill set if he can just

1045
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: hit tool, just.

1046
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: Gets a little bit better. And we start seeing someone

1047
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: that you know, is more on the two fifty batting

1048
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: average rain that would probably put him at like a

1049
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: two fifty three twenty batting average OBP rate right there.

1050
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: He's someone that can one hundred percent slug you know,

1051
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: four fifty to four to seventy five in the major leagues.

1052
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: He's he's got that kind of potential in his bad

1053
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: So him really putting it all together is something the

1054
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: Braves could desperately need and someone that they could really

1055
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: just plug in to that position as soon as next

1056
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: year and just keep them there for you know, five

1057
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: to eight years, and that would shure up, you know,

1058
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: the biggest hole during this prolonged really this prolonged run

1059
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: or prolonged window that the Braves have.

1060
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with the defense. I mean what we're

1061
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: talking about with RCA. They really do value the defense.

1062
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: So if you could just hit enough, man, they're they're okay,

1063
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen. Now Alex is more than okay

1064
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: if you play good defense and you hitded not just

1065
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: enough a little bit at shortstop, he's alright with that.

1066
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, back, this is obviously different. But Andrew,

1067
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean this is pre Alex. But Amilton Simmons was

1068
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: never a great hitterman. It's just that he was that

1069
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: good defensively. I'm not Look, I'm not saying he's gonna

1070
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: be Anderson Simmons, because no one is. But there's a

1071
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: midl for that. Like at that position, the bar is

1072
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: fairly low with the bat, you just gotta be able

1073
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: to do a little here.

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Speaker 3: He was able to come in and be like a

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00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: seven to fifty ohps player, Like that's a that's one

1076
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: of the top short stops in the league right there

1077
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: with his defense.

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00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: Sounds good to me. Uh, fast board, If we can

1079
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: simulate that in about a year's time, we will all, uh,

1080
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: we'll all be very very excited. And I know that

1081
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: my uh my guy, Scott Coleman could take a deep

1082
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: breath and just be like, all right, no more shortstop

1083
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: talk for a long time. I think he's just Scot's

1084
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: been Scott's been on the Orlando roller coaster for the

1085
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: whole winter, and he was like, man, he was convinced

1086
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: that they're gonna trade him or something or trade for sorry,

1087
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: trade for somebody else. That it didn't happen, and here

1088
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: we are again, Hey Orlando, again, I think could be

1089
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: better than show than it was last year.

1090
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: I do. I do.

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00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: I fully believe that. I don't know, I don't know

1092
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: how much better, but I think he'll be better. So

1093
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: that's that's a small win for the Braves. All right.

1094
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: Before I let you go, this does have to be

1095
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: a long answer. You feel about the major league team?

1096
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: I know you're following the major league team or where

1097
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: are you on the major league team right now? Are

1098
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: you feeling good? Like this is gonna be a I'll

1099
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: be back to ninety five plus wins this year after

1100
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: the after the downturn of last year's injury stuff like

1101
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: are you optimistic it's.

1102
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: Just the injuries? If everyone's elivated, this is a freaking

1103
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: good team. Man. If you're if your problems are that

1104
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: four and five spot and you and we're talking about

1105
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: the players that we're talking about in that four and

1106
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: five spot, like a lot of people haven't talked about

1107
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: Schwellenbach and his ascension, Like I cannot fathom what he

1108
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: did last year. He was saying it was crazy, and

1109
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: the fact that we're now going to get a full

1110
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: Like I was high on him already. I did not

1111
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: expect him to be this good this soon, and he's

1112
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: shattered my expectations. And he's someone that is like not

1113
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 3: really being talked about, you know, and amongst like the

1114
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: key media members and across Major League Baseball, the lineup

1115
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 3: is crazy. It's stacked as is when Orlando Arci is

1116
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: your biggest question mark, like whatever, that's okay. You can

1117
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: have one question mark in your lineup, and who knows

1118
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: if it's Orlando from a couple of years ago, it's

1119
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: someone that'sitting. You get seven fifty seven to seventy ops,

1120
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: that's fantastic. And then with the bullpen, they got tons

1121
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: of arms that are very intriguing, not just in the

1122
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: major leagues but also in minors Triple A and Double A.

1123
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: Like that's you have lots and lots of depth. When

1124
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: high quality depth, you know, when you're able to plug

1125
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: in someone like a Demingo Gonzalez in the middle of

1126
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: the season because because of an injury like that's someone

1127
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: who's probably on a major league team most of the

1128
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: time right now, and we're talking about him maybe being

1129
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: a fringe major league play It like there's too much

1130
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: to like about this team to even I know, it's

1131
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 3: kind of weird to say, to even be worried. Like,

1132
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: I'm not stressed about this season. I expect ninety wins,

1133
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: ninety plus wins, as long as everyone's healthy, as long

1134
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: as the Cana comes back, and as Ronald Aykunya like, no,

1135
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm not even remotely worried. Wake me up

1136
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 3: when it's the playoffs.

1137
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel kind of like, kind of like you do.

1138
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: And I've had a few chuckles this winter of people

1139
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: act like the Brads aren't good. It's like, guys, yeah, yeah,

1140
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: I know, they didn't do a lot in the winter.

1141
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: I get that it was frustrating for us too, but

1142
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: there's still a good baseball team. They got a lot

1143
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: of talent on this team, and we'll talk about it.

1144
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this number one. Number two, people

1145
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: should be following all of your work beyond this podcast,

1146
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: So where can they find it? I will open it

1147
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: up to you. I'm sure there's a lot.

1148
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: You like me.

1149
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: You have like seven jobs. I feel like so uh

1150
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: working folks. Find all of your braves and non braves.

1151
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: Anything you want to pluck, go ahead, totally.

1152
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's keep a braves related. Let's keep a baseball related.

1153
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: You can find my minor league usings over at Battery

1154
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: Power and I covered the minor league team, the Brarise

1155
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 3: minor league system.

1156
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: There.

1157
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 3: My podcast is Peach State Prospects. We exclusively talk about

1158
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: the Brave's farm system. Or you can find me over

1159
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: talking analytics on my marketing job over at Baseball Perspectives.

1160
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: It's baseball, baseball, baseball at house.

1161
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love some baseball. I appreciate you doing this,

1162
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: you know.

1163
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: I was.

1164
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what we need to do.

1165
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I've been trying to find a way

1166
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: to talk to Gora for a long time on the

1167
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: pot anyway, it's been too long. I appreciate you doing this.

1168
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: We'll have to have you back if you're willing. I

1169
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: will maybe subject you to someone other than me, someone

1170
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: a better host than I am bringing. We'll bringin Steven

1171
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: or Sean or somebody other than me. But no, this

1172
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: is great. I really appreciate you doing it and you

1173
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: heard it here. First, Ken Kennedy is apparently is he

1174
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: like your guy? Okay, what last thing one guy in

1175
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: the system? Is he your guy? Is this smashov or

1176
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: do you have like your number one guy? Is it

1177
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: kenn Eddy?

1178
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: Every other year it would probably be Easmith Shavor. But

1179
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: I think maybe I've just bought in too much. Maybe

1180
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm just like you, driving too much into cam comminity

1181
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 3: where I'm I'm all.

1182
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: Ryeah, yeah, I get it. No, we all have to

1183
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: have our guy. I mean my guy. Unfortunately, just because

1184
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: of the where he went to college is not out

1185
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: of the system. Jessee Franklin didn't go, didn't go. That

1186
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: didn't go that well for me, I was mostly a bit.

1187
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: I never thought he was gonna be a great player.

1188
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: But he was a Michigan guy, which is why I

1189
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: lashed on. But hey, everybody has their guy, and it

1190
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: seems like you guys can committe and look, he might

1191
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: have been my guy pretty soon from what you just

1192
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: you sold me in five minutes. So all right, thank

1193
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: you again for doing this. Follow Gor's work everywhere. He

1194
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: just named prospects, battery power, et cetera. Paul, this show

1195
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: please subscribe to this podcast. Had to hamb a territory

1196
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: anywhere you found your podcast, all that fun stuff. Appreciate

1197
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: you listening, and we'll see you all next time.