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Speaker 1: It's eight D one, Shawn. You want to be a

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Speaker 1: to today. Thirty nine days to the mid term elections.

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Speaker 1: The Republicans in the Senate have a fifty one forty

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Speaker 1: saying now for months, long before a lot of you

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Speaker 1: this is the most important mid term election in our lifetime.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's only been three times in the last

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Speaker 1: been telling you this long period of time for a reason.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot at stake. There's nothing that I'm telling

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Speaker 1: Schumer can't do it soon enough. That's what they want.

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Speaker 1: And if Republicans lose control of the House, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: under pressure from their base Maxine Waters who even admitted there,

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Speaker 1: We'll do it, but don't say it. What else do

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Speaker 1: Pelosi all saying they want their crumbs back. President gives

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Speaker 1: like Dr Rumber does the fifty bucks a month. This

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Speaker 1: back and bringing the greatest forensic experts, it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: any because we don't know where it happened. So what

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Speaker 1: are their options? What does the FBI have as options

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Speaker 1: to again interview the four people that were already interviewed

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Speaker 1: by the Senate Investigatory Committee Now The AP is now

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Speaker 1: reporting that kavanaugh friend Mark Judge says he will gladly

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Speaker 1: cooperate with any law enforcement agency that investigates confidentially. We

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Speaker 1: have a Republican senator corner now saying that the Senate

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Speaker 1: will have a vote to consider the motion to proceed

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Speaker 1: with the Supreme Court nomination on Saturday, So we'll find

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Speaker 1: out what that's all about. There's deeper principles in play

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Speaker 1: here that we have got to pay very close attention to.

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Speaker 1: Well beyond you know, we cannot have guilt by accusation

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Speaker 1: in this country. There are very profound principles at stake here.

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Speaker 1: I have talked about the the predictable strategies that Democrats

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Speaker 1: use every two and four years. Smears, lies, slander. They

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Speaker 1: bludge in Republicans as racist, sexist, islamophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic.

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Speaker 1: They don't agree with their environmental policy, so they want

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Speaker 1: dirty air and water, they want children to die, and

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Speaker 1: they want to throw granny over the cliff. Hannity, you're

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Speaker 1: repeating yourself again because it's wrong. It is a predictable strategy.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it's their go to strategy

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Speaker 1: every two and four years. Slander is what they do.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic Party is now the party of slander, character assassination,

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Speaker 1: and smears and besmirchment. And they don't give a rip

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Speaker 1: as long as they win elections. Oh Mitt Romney doesn't

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Speaker 1: like women as their resumes and binders. Oh Mitt Romney

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Speaker 1: didn't pay for taxes for ten years, and then you

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Speaker 1: find out after the election he actually did. Oh good,

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Speaker 1: we want who cares? We've watched so many instances in

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Speaker 1: cases the same thing. Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas. Where is

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Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence here? Where is due process in

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Speaker 1: all of this? Where is a constitutional system of law

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Speaker 1: and order in this? In any of this? How about

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Speaker 1: all the other cases where the media has been wrong.

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Speaker 1: They hate Sean Hannity, But Sean Hannity was right about

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Speaker 1: Richard Jewell. I didn't rush to judgment and think, oh

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Speaker 1: I fit the profile the lone bomber. I was right

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Speaker 1: about Duke Lacrosse when so many others were dead wrong.

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Speaker 1: And I went and actually did my reporting and met

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Speaker 1: the families and firsthand and asked questions. They were wrong

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Speaker 1: on Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman. Obama was wrong. I

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Speaker 1: actually took my time to my own reporting, went down

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Speaker 1: and talked to George Zimmerman. How many other reporters do

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Speaker 1: this just like we went We actually talked to Wiki Leaks,

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Speaker 1: Juliana Sange. We tried to do our own reporting on

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Speaker 1: this show. Or what about Ferguson Missouri, Darren Wilson guilty,

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Speaker 1: Freddie Gray murdered by cops in Baltimore, and everybody in

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Speaker 1: the meantime? Then those are only high profile cases. And then,

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Speaker 1: of course the worst of all is the dirty dossier.

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Speaker 1: Boughton paid for by Hillary Donald Trump. You know, rented

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Speaker 1: a room in Moscow and head Hooker's urinating in the bed,

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Speaker 1: the filing, the bed that Obama's, the Obamas slept in.

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Speaker 1: That's in the dossier, and that was fed to every

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Speaker 1: American before the election as a lie to help Hillary

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Speaker 1: and after the election to destroy Trump. Our country is

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Speaker 1: witnessing your living through the ugliest smear campaign in history.

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Speaker 1: If we don't get this right, there will be no

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Speaker 1: good people that will ever want to serve their country

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Speaker 1: for decades to come. Democrats are now the party of

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Speaker 1: no due process, no presumption of innocence, no constitution. What

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Speaker 1: name one Democrat? That has given the presumption of innocence

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Speaker 1: here because it's politics. You talked about drinking and sexual exploits,

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Speaker 1: did you not, Senata? Let me let me take a

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Speaker 1: step back and explain. Uh, high school, I was number

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Speaker 1: one in the class, and I thought, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: got this up. I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about my No, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to answer. I'm gonna talk about my

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Speaker 1: high school record. If you're gonna sit here and mock me,

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Speaker 1: we we were. I think we were all very fair

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Speaker 1: to Dr Ford. Shouldn't we be just as fair to

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Speaker 1: Judge Kebath as the federal judge? You're aware of the

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Speaker 1: jury instruction falsest in in universe, falsest anomalous? Are you

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Speaker 1: not false in one thing? False and everything? The core

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Speaker 1: of why we're here today really is credibility. Judge, do

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Speaker 1: you do you believe a need a health or Senator Craiball.

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Speaker 1: You were both questioned about your record. The only difference

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Speaker 1: is that you have been accused of sexual assault. How

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Speaker 1: do you reconcile your statement about a conspiracy against you

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Speaker 1: with the treatment of someone who was before this body

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Speaker 1: not very long ago? Okay, um, and then do you

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Speaker 1: agree that it is possible for men to both be

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Speaker 1: friends with some women and treat other women badly? Um, sir,

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Speaker 1: you also said that this past two weeks. This past

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Speaker 1: two weeks has been a two week effort calculated and

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Speaker 1: orchestrated as a political hit. Are you saying that Dr

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Speaker 1: Ford's efforts to come forward to prepare for the very

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Speaker 1: difficult testimony she gave today, to travel to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: And tell us about her experience have all been part

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Speaker 1: of an orchestrated political hit. And are you basically calling

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Speaker 1: her some kind of political operative. I have found your

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Speaker 1: testimony powerful, incredible, and I believe you your teacher, correct

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Speaker 1: correct or. You have given America an amazing teaching moment.

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Speaker 1: And you may have other moments in the classroom, but

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Speaker 1: you have inspired and you have enlightened America. By my

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Speaker 1: colleagues who have thank you for coming forward today, and

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Speaker 1: I and we all admire you for what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: And I understand why you have come forward. You wanted

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Speaker 1: us and the American people to know what you knew

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Speaker 1: about the character, the character of the man we are

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Speaker 1: considering for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. I

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Speaker 1: want to use a different word for your courage, um,

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Speaker 1: because this is more as much as this hearing is

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Speaker 1: about a Supreme Court justice, the reality is is by

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Speaker 1: you coming forward your courage, you are affecting the culture

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Speaker 1: of our country, afford. I want to begin by thanking

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Speaker 1: you for coming to testify in front of us today.

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Speaker 1: This is a public service, and I want you know

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Speaker 1: that I'm grateful to have the opportunity to hear from

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Speaker 1: you directly today. There are millions of victims and survivors

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Speaker 1: out there who have been inspired by your courage. I

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Speaker 1: am bravery is contagious. Indeed, that's a driving force behind

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Speaker 1: the Me Too movement, and you sharing your story is

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Speaker 1: going to have a lasting positive impact and so many

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Speaker 1: survivors in our country. We owe you a dead and

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Speaker 1: gratitude for that. Doctor. As difficult as this experience must be,

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Speaker 1: an hour to Sean Hannady show right down on toll

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Speaker 1: free telephone numbers eight hundred ninth one sewn uh now

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of this half hour, before we got

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Speaker 1: into all the flake drauma from earlier today and name

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Speaker 1: calling and agreeing with the Democrats for an FBI one

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Speaker 1: week limited investigation, and how many more accusations are going

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Speaker 1: to be made in a week. Anybody want to start

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Speaker 1: a a pool on you know how many Michael Lavanati

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Speaker 1: himself can make in a week. Anyway, So joining us

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Speaker 1: now we to get into all this. Kaylee mcinanny is

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Speaker 1: with us, the author of the New American Revolution, the

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Speaker 1: making of a Populace Movement. D C. McAllister is with us,

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Speaker 1: author of Spygate, calumnist for p J Media. Uh and

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Speaker 1: also by the way, uh d C went to u

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Speaker 1: n C with Dr Ford uh and has talked publicly

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Speaker 1: how she herself has been a victim of rape. Uh.

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Speaker 1: David shown is a civil liberties attorney, criminal rights attorney.

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Speaker 1: Uh d C. Let me begin with you. We watched this.

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Speaker 1: Now we do know that all four witnesses that Professor

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Speaker 1: Ford had mentioned of all given sworn statements under the

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Speaker 1: threat of felony. And yet that doesn't seem to want

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Speaker 1: to stop the Democrats from having it another investigation, even

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Speaker 1: though Joe Biden says that it would be non conclusive,

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Speaker 1: and of course uh they make no record mendations at

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Speaker 1: the end of it. To me, it just seems like

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Speaker 1: that just opens up another week for more crazy allegations

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Speaker 1: to keep coming out. What do you think that this

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Speaker 1: is a delay tactic. They didn't even say when this

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Speaker 1: week begins. And there's a little technicality that I wonder

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Speaker 1: about when when this is actually going to start and

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Speaker 1: how long it's going to take, as far as that

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Speaker 1: kind of delay goes. But they've already decided that Kavana

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Speaker 1: is guilty. That's one of the things that really bothers

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Speaker 1: me about this whole situation is the presumption of guilt

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Speaker 1: with this man. When these Democrats look at this woman

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Speaker 1: and say, I believe you because you're emotional um in

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Speaker 1: this hearing, you know, I want to say, you know

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Speaker 1: what's happened to our country? And if you cannot measure

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Speaker 1: truth by someone's emotion, and you know she hasn't corroborated,

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Speaker 1: and if you do want to bring emotions into it

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Speaker 1: and have it as a factor. Actually, as a rape

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Speaker 1: survivor myself, I wasn't convinced by her emotions. She didn't

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Speaker 1: been set actually assaulted and was just now bringing it

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Speaker 1: up in the face of the man who did it.

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Speaker 1: But is it like someone who exactly like someone who

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Speaker 1: was very nervous, but not yea filled with anger that

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Speaker 1: you usually feel when this kind of thing happens to you. Look, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I've never been through something as traumatic and horrible as that.

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Speaker 1: I know that for example, if somebody dies, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at one corner of the room and people

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Speaker 1: are laughing, another corner of the room people are crying,

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Speaker 1: and and then people are mooting back and forth at

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Speaker 1: different times. I mean, I don't know if there is

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Speaker 1: one way that somebody's going to react to something like this.

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Speaker 1: I I did feel with with with Judge Kavanaugh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the outrage of being wrongly accused seemed natural to me,

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Speaker 1: although the Democrats, you know, commentators are trying to portray

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Speaker 1: that is he's unhinged. I'm like, uh, you haven't been

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Speaker 1: accused of gang rape, you haven't been accused of horrific

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Speaker 1: things against women. And if you are innocent, remember Trey

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Speaker 1: Goudy once famously, you know, act like you're innocent. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's how I would act if I was innocent. I'd

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Speaker 1: want to shout out from the root rooftops. But I

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Speaker 1: you know, I can't put myself in anybody shoes. It

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Speaker 1: just I know the horror. To me, that's evil. What

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Speaker 1: we're describing is people that do that are evil. Um,

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Speaker 1: let me bring in. Uh Kaylee mcinnanny is with us. Kelly,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on all of the comings and

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Speaker 1: goings today. Yeah, it's really interesting because, as the Justice

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Speaker 1: Kavan also accurately said, advice and consent has now been

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Speaker 1: turned to search and destroy. And if this does not

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Speaker 1: move forward, if we do not have a vote, if

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Speaker 1: Judge Kavanaugh is not confirmed, the Democrats have won their

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Speaker 1: political manipulation, their search and destroyed tactics. And it is horrific,

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Speaker 1: Sean horrific that now the standard that is set that

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Speaker 1: someone can come forward with not just uncorroborated stories, not

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Speaker 1: just no evidence, but refuted stories. In this case, every

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Speaker 1: person who has prepared only a witness denies it, but

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Speaker 1: refuted stories can take down a judicial nominee. That's very scary.

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Speaker 1: I do not doubt that something happened to miss Board,

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Speaker 1: but it was not Brett Kavanaugh. And to see him

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Speaker 1: goes down for something he did not do is a

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Speaker 1: travesty and it is a bad standard to set in

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Speaker 1: this country. What is your take, David shown I know

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Speaker 1: you've you've worked on a lot of cases in your life,

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Speaker 1: and you know a lot about human nature and people.

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Speaker 1: And to me, just from a legal standpoint, if the

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Speaker 1: FBI is not gonna give a recommendation or offer a conclusion,

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Speaker 1: and the four people that were offered as having been

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Speaker 1: witnesses to the alleged incident of all given sworn statements

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Speaker 1: under the threat of felony, you know, and we don't

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Speaker 1: even know the location of where there's occurred. It's not

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Speaker 1: like we can go back and say, Okay, well we

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Speaker 1: have new forensic techniques, maybe we can find some evidence

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Speaker 1: of this or that. I mean, and I'm not being

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Speaker 1: flippant here, it seems what could what could possibly change?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what could unless somebody says I lied,

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Speaker 1: uh and I committed a felony. You have the idea

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Speaker 1: that the fb investigations some kind of tendency here is

645
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: an absolute red herring. Um. I don't know where Proficial

646
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Speaker 1: der Switz is coming from on that or any of

647
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: these folks. Everybody knows. As the judge said, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: come to any conclusion. But beyond that, there's nothing more

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Speaker 1: they could do. This is just a matter of providing

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Speaker 1: cover to Senator Flake and others that in the first

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Speaker 1: case I ever had in practice was a false stifization

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Speaker 1: of rape against the client. To see that client change

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Speaker 1: when he finally was acquitted from the accusation until the

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Speaker 1: acquittal is just phenomenal. I'm a little more cynical than DC. Frankly, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned that people have already come to an inclusion

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Speaker 1: of guilty beforehand, but I don't really think they care.

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Speaker 1: I think that whether he's guilty or not guilty is

658
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Speaker 1: just about irrelevant to many members of the committee. It's

659
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: a talking point, it's an agenda. It suits their agenda.

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Speaker 1: There's no fair person that could see that yesterday and

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Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that he or she knows what

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Speaker 1: happened on that day in that place if anything. Um,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. And if that's the case, and your decision

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Speaker 1: turns on whether you believe Judge Kavanaugh did this or

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Speaker 1: didn't do it, you have to vote to confirm it's

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Speaker 1: the president's prerogative to appoint this person. If that's what

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Speaker 1: your decision is turning on. No one can say, based

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Speaker 1: on what I saw yesterday, I know that he's a

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Speaker 1: sexual assault or something like that. Well, let me. Let

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Speaker 1: me go back to the d c McAlister and Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things where I watched very very

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Speaker 1: closely yesterday. I really did. I watched. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: pay attention and listen to everybody in all of this.

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Speaker 1: And when you have a case where allegations are made,

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Speaker 1: and this was not the only allegation that was made.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have the the second case against that

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Speaker 1: was written about in the New Yorker against in this

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Speaker 1: case Judge Kavanaugh again and and you break down that case,

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Speaker 1: and you look at what we have, and even the

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Speaker 1: New York Times concluded they couldn't report on it and

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Speaker 1: that Ms Ramirez in that particular case had contradicted herself.

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Speaker 1: Uh and contacted Yale classmates asking if they recalled the

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Speaker 1: incident and telling them that she couldn't be certain Mr

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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh was the that exposed himself. And she became quote

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Speaker 1: quickly inebriated at the party. She told the New Yorker

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Speaker 1: she was foggy, slurring a word, she had significant memory

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Speaker 1: gaps from the evening, etcetera. And then if you go

688
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Speaker 1: to the Abenati case, this case of Julie swittnik Um,

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Speaker 1: and you watch that particular case, she's literally saying that

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Speaker 1: she went to at least ten parties, but it happened

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Speaker 1: almost every weekend went over a period of years, and

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Speaker 1: that all of these boys were responsible for drugging and

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Speaker 1: getting these girls totally inebriated and knocked out, and then

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Speaker 1: boys would line the hall waiting their turn to gang rape,

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Speaker 1: trail rape women as if we never would have heard

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Speaker 1: of that in thirty six years before. And she went

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Speaker 1: back to those parties that did not seem plausible to

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Speaker 1: me an accusation evidence, and that's all we have here.

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Speaker 1: There is no credible evidence against and they're still believing

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Speaker 1: that this woman just because she's made an act usation.

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Speaker 1: And this is the real problem that we have when

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Speaker 1: we have someone come up with an accusation. We have

703
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Speaker 1: to believe the innocent until the person accusing proves their guilt.

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Speaker 1: It cannot be the other way around. We have to

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Speaker 1: we have to say I believe breat Kavanaugh because it

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Speaker 1: has to be proven that he actually did it. And

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00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: if we go down this path in our nation, we

708
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: really have lost our principles of liberty. We've lost our freedom,

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00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: and it's being targeted, targeted against men right now, men

710
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: are the ones who are the target of feminism, of

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Speaker 1: statis m of the of the culture right now. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't see that as the broad problem in

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Speaker 1: our culture, then I want to know where you've been.

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Speaker 1: And this is just on display and this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It's about abortions that with Supreme Court, but it's also

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Speaker 1: about the civil society and how we're treating one another. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think this is the thing. I mean, look, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, most Democrats have made up

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Speaker 1: their minds. They had no open mind as it relates

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Speaker 1: to Breck Havanov, and I think a lot of what

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Speaker 1: we have been witnessing was really targeting maybe the few

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Speaker 1: people that are in the middle that that thought they

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Speaker 1: can sway and they thought they had to go this

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Speaker 1: far over the top. And you know, and the evidence

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Speaker 1: that this was political from the beginning is none of

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Speaker 1: these people have ever talked about Brett Kavanaugh. None of

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Speaker 1: these people, I'm sorry about Keith Ellison this way. None

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Speaker 1: of these people have ever you know, condemned Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: this way. Nobody's asking that I wanted to broaderick at

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Speaker 1: her FBI investigation and her week of investigation, and she

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Speaker 1: told me last night many of these people wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: read the report that was written about her, so it's

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Speaker 1: obviously politics. All right, we gotta take a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back with our panel and as we can send

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Speaker 1: you our final moments with David Shawn, d C. McAlister,

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Speaker 1: and Kayleie mcinaney, and then we're gonna play. Uh. Lindsey

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Speaker 1: Graham's speech today was phenomen I'm gonna play it. Come

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Speaker 1: when we come back, you're gonna want to hear this.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the final word. Each can see. David

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Speaker 1: will start with you this time. Yeah. I think that

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Speaker 1: the agenda that is removed from whether or not Chris

742
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Kevanaugh did this is apparent from things like Dianne Feinstein's

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Speaker 1: reaction all of a sudden, she was stunned yesterday after

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Speaker 1: his speech. She must have lost hundreds or thousands of votes,

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Speaker 1: But today she turns to well, I'm voting against him

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Speaker 1: because of his temperament. Uh. I don't like the way

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Speaker 1: you handle things. The man finally came alive. This is personal.

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Speaker 1: This isn't him as a judge. There's a personal tech

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Speaker 1: of his character and on his family. Reactively, you should

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Speaker 1: have reacted. This is the politics that have become personal,

751
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: and he had every right to respond the way he did.

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00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: There was no evidence against him. She did not prove

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Speaker 1: her case, and we need to remember that this isn't

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Speaker 1: about caring for women. Are believing women. But if you're

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00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: going to accuse someone, you better tossed up the evidence.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise we're going to accuse believe the person who's been accused,

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Speaker 1: because that's the way America is just about proving their innocence. Now,

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Speaker 1: no presumption of innocence anymore, Kaylee mcinanny. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 1: presumption of innocence. And make no mistake, you know the last.

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00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: They will win at any cost. They don't care what

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Speaker 1: reputations are destroyed, lives forever change, or the damage done

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Speaker 1: to the process. They simply do not care. They do

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Speaker 1: not care about the merit of these accusations. If they did,

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Speaker 1: they would have brought them forward in July. And if

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Speaker 1: they did care about merits and accusations like this, they'd

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Speaker 1: be looking over at Keith Ellison number two, at the

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Speaker 1: d n C amount of evidence against him, two accusers,

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Speaker 1: medical documentations, text messages. But they don't care because this

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Speaker 1: guy has a d behind his name. He has Democrats

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Speaker 1: demarcation behind his name, so he gets two different standards.

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Speaker 1: Said all right, thank you all for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham gave a final statement that you we gotta

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Speaker 1: hear this and this entirety. Then of course we have

774
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Speaker 1: our news round up, information overload, Eric Bowling among our guests,

775
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: and much much more. Stay with us on the Sean

776
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Speaker 1: Hannity Show, and you're called straight ahead, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you want to call your senator or any of them

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Speaker 1: to two to two four thirty one one two o

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Speaker 1: two two two four thirty one or can we be specific?

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Speaker 1: We can, but it takes too long. No, it never

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Speaker 1: takes too long and specific to do it. No, that's true.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, at least you can say go ahead.

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Speaker 1: You can be as specific as you want to be.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be specific. Are you ready? You want

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Speaker 1: to call Joe Mansion Mansion, you can call him at

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Speaker 1: two O two two four four. You want to call

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Speaker 1: Heidi Hike Camp Camp two o two two four two

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Speaker 1: zero four three two zero four three. Susan Collins, Susan

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Speaker 1: Collins two two two four to five to three to

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Speaker 1: five to three Lisa Murkowski, Murkowski two O two two

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Speaker 1: four six six six six six five six five and

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Speaker 1: then last but not least, flaky flake flakey flake, snowflake

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Speaker 1: freight at the elevator two O two two four two

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Speaker 1: four four or five? Was that a minute of your life?

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Speaker 1: Was all right? The main switchboard number two? Alright, one

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Speaker 1: show before all those went down with obviously snowflake today, Um,

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00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham laid out the case in his statement. And

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I've had debates with Lindsey Graham

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Speaker 1: over the years. We've had falling outs over the years,

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Speaker 1: and um, but he had his finest moment I thought

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Speaker 1: yesterday and then today followed it up, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is worth playing. And this is what he said

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Speaker 1: before this mess earlier. I know I'm a single white

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Speaker 1: male from South Carolina, and I've told I should shut up,

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Speaker 1: but I will not shut up, if that's okay, because

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Speaker 1: I got here the same way everybody else did. The

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Speaker 1: people in South Carolina voted for me and Senator Scott

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Speaker 1: to be their voice men and women, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to be their boys today. And uh, maybe not

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Speaker 1: just for South Carolina, but a little bit of out

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Speaker 1: what I think is going on here. Joe Biden. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe we're saying this on our side listen to Joe.

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Speaker 1: But Joe was right a lot. Joe Biden is a

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Speaker 1: unique guy. If you had one last conversation before you die,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to have it with Joe. You'd be

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Speaker 1: around for a while. He's a decent guy. If he

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Speaker 1: runs for president, it would be hard to be. He

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Speaker 1: came to Senator Thurman's funeral and gave a long eulogy,

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Speaker 1: and I asked him, Joe, I said, that was incredible,

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Speaker 1: as Kent help you in Delaware. So I just liked

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Speaker 1: the old guy. I didn't agree with him, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't like some of the things he did in his life,

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Speaker 1: but when I was down and out, he was there

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Speaker 1: for me. To my colleagues on the other side, this

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00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: will end and we'll see what we do next. I

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Speaker 1: hope we can muster the ability to move forward. But

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Speaker 1: some observations about where we find ourselves and how we

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Speaker 1: got here. I wrote a book, and I think Senator

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Speaker 1: bloom with All is the only person I know that

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Speaker 1: I actually read it. It was online. I ran for

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Speaker 1: president and I got one percent, so I had my

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Speaker 1: time to be president, didn't go very far, and I lost.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think Trump would win. I ran out of

834
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Speaker 1: adjectives to describe about how it felt about his campaign. Well,

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Speaker 1: he won and I lost, and he's president, and I'll

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Speaker 1: try to help him where I can and say no

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Speaker 1: one I must and the elections over for me. I

838
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Speaker 1: would like to tell him that you had a choice

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Speaker 1: to make for the Supreme Court vacancy of Justice Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: I think he did a good job, Mr Preston. For

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Speaker 1: somebody who supposedly crazy and there's chaos everywhere, he did

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Speaker 1: a good job here. Now, why difference between Gorsic and Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: I'm excuse me, Gorsic and Kavanaugh. It's the Kennedy seat.

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Speaker 1: You don't get that. You're not paying much attention. Gorsic

845
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Speaker 1: is a even swap for Scalia. But this is high

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Speaker 1: stakes stuff, right, This is the seat where the guy

847
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Speaker 1: in the middle is at risk. Kavanaugh clerked for Justice Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: Would you have picked him? No, but you lost the election,

849
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Speaker 1: and that does have consequences. When I said it about

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Speaker 1: Obama winning, Imant Marritt Garland, Scalia dies in the election

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Speaker 1: year the last year of the term of President Obama.

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Speaker 1: The primaries are already under way. Not in a hundred

853
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: years has anybody been nominated under that circumstance. So I

854
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: don't think I did anything unfair with Garland. As to

855
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: Sodomyr and Kagan, I was told on our side, you've

856
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: got to keep them off the court because they're gonna

857
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: be a pro choice vote, they hate guns, on and

858
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: on and on, and I tried to go back to

859
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: what this committee used to do. Strong Thurman voted for Ginsburg.

860
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: You'll never convince me that was because you agree with

861
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: her philosophy. I think he saw in her a qualified person.

862
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: Prince Hollings voted for Scalia, the same as true nine

863
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: and ninety seven votes. What's how most of the nominees

864
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Supreme Court never had a hearing. It was always just assumed,

865
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: if they're qualified and they're not hacks, that they're gonna

866
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: go forward. Elections do matter when it comes to President Trump.

867
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: Elections do matter. Now about the law, and to my

868
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: friends who have been prosecutors, I've been a prosecutor, I've

869
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: been a defense attorney, and I've been a judge. Every

870
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: woman who has been victimized needs to be heard. Count

871
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: me in a thousand times over Count me in for

872
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: the proposition for every one woman who comes forward. Only

873
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: God knows how many women and children go to their

874
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: grave with the abuse. If you don't realize that, you

875
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: just don't know this area of life. But you're got

876
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: to be heard. In the United States, I had a

877
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: young man accused of sexual assault when I was in

878
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: the Air Force as a defense attorney. The case eventually

879
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: fell apart and he almost killed himself. I had women

880
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: who have been gang raped and more to testify, but

881
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: they did along with counselor as I set up with

882
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: them all night. Tough stuff, emotional, who to believe. I've

883
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: been doing this legal stuff most of my life. I've

884
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: never heard a more compelling defense of one's honor and

885
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: integrity than I did from Brett Kavanaugh. He looked me

886
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: in the eye, everybody in the eye, and he was mad,

887
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: and he should have been mad. He could tell you

888
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: where he was at, what he was doing during high

889
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: school in a way that just blew me away. Brett

890
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh and women, if you're a gang rapist when you're

891
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: a sophomore and a junior in high school, you don't

892
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: let it go. Every woman who actually knows Brett Kavanaugh

893
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: has come forward to say he is not that kind

894
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: of guy. He has been at the highest level of

895
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: public service under tremendous scrutiny, six FBI investigations, and we

896
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: missed the sophomore junior gang rapist. We didn't miss it.

897
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: It's much garbage. We're in the twilight zone. And here's

898
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: what I would say Miss Ford. All I can say

899
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: about miss Ford. I feel sorry for her, and I

900
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: do believe something happened to her, and I don't know

901
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: when and where, but I don't believe it was Brett Kavanaugh.

902
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: And as a prosecutor, you couldn't get out of the

903
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: batter's box because in America, before you can shoot, accuse

904
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: somebody but crime, you have to tell them when it

905
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: happened and where it happened, and you have to prove

906
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt it did happen. The reason this

907
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: case will never be brought in Maryland or anywhere else,

908
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: you just can't get there. If you wanted to get

909
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: a warrant, which is a probable call standard to search

910
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: or arrest somebody, you got to prove by probable cause

911
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: where it happened, and when it happened. How are you

912
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: supposed to defend yourself? Is the burden really on you

913
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: to prove that you were not at a party thirty

914
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: five years ago? And they won't tell you where it

915
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: wasn't when it was. So all I can say is

916
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: that under any reasonable standard, any concept of the rule law,

917
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: this would not go forward. There's been five allegations here.

918
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: The fifth alleg gation was brought to me by Senator

919
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: White else who did absolutely the right thing. Somebody contacted

920
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: him in Rhode Island and said a friend of his

921
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: was on a boat with Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh.

922
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: They treated badly. He went down and beat him up,

923
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: and she won't come forward. I said, well, I'll make

924
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: sure I'll join with you. Let the FBI look at it,

925
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: and turned out not to be true. The fourth allegation

926
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: was an anonymous allegation, a letter without a date or

927
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: return address sent to Corey Gardner just a few days ago,

928
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: and he turned it over to the committee, and somebody

929
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: on that side linked at the NBC News and it

930
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: made it on the news. The fourth allegation that really

931
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: bothers me. I don't know what's going on over there,

932
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: But that's not right. It was somebody over there now

933
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: about ms Ford. I feel really bad that she wanted

934
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: to remain anonymous and could not. The one thing I

935
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: know for sure is that Diane Feinstein would not do

936
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: this and did not do this, but I know for

937
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: sure somebody did. It wouldn't chatter from a friend. Three

938
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: groups had this letter that was requested to be anonymous.

939
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein and her staff, the congresswoman from California and

940
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: her staff, and the lawyers. Somebody betrayed her trust. And

941
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: if you can't figure out why, you shouldn't be driving

942
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: to delay this hearing, to set in motion to destruction

943
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: of this man, to keep this seat open past the election.

944
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: That I know beyond any any doubt. What else do

945
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: I know about? Fell out of my chair when Dr

946
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Ford said yesterday, I didn't know you would be willing

947
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: to come to me the email interactions between this committee

948
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: and her lawyers. My staff would still welcome the opportunity

949
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: to speak with dot Ford at any time in any

950
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: place convenient to her, come to us or weak to you.

951
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm willing to have my staff travel to Dr Ford

952
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: in California or anywhere else to obtain her testimony September nineteen. Well,

953
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: that wouldn't fit in the plan, it wouldn't be public,

954
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: and it would get over with sooner than people wanted.

955
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe, but I tend to

956
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: believe that Dr Ford did not know about this invitation.

957
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: And I've been a lawyer most of my adult life,

958
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: and somebody needs to ask the question to her lawyers,

959
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: how could she not know about this? Are you beginning

960
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: to understand what's been going on for a very long

961
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: time in this case? It's not that hard to figure out.

962
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: So if this is the new standard, the accusation proves

963
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: itself to those who want to ask questions. You hate women.

964
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: God help us all. If the new standard for the

965
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: committee is that there's no presumption of anything, that you

966
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: have to prove why somebody would accuse you, not just

967
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: say I didn't do it, and here's why I didn't

968
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: do it, but you got to prove the motives of

969
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: your accuser. God help us all to have any moment

970
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: tells you what's gonna happen if we keep this far?

971
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: Is going plenty of time, plenty of opportunities to get

972
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: to the truth. This has never been about the truth.

973
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: This has been about delay and destruction. And if we

974
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: reward this, it is the end of good people wanting

975
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: to be judges. It is the end of any concept

976
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: of the rule of law. It's the beginning of a

977
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: process that will tear this country apart. And if I

978
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: am chairman next year, if we keep the majority and

979
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: Senator Draft Lee moves over, and I hope he doesn't

980
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: because says I think he's done a great job. I'm

981
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna remember this. There's the process before Kavanaugh and the

982
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: process after Kavanaugh. If you want to vet the nominee,

983
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: you can. If you want to delay things for the

984
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: next election, you will not. If you try to destroy somebody,

985
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: you will not get away with it. Jeff is leaving.

986
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: He has wrastled with this. He is trying to be fair.

987
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you, Jeff, what happened thirty five years ago.

988
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: I can tell you this that through any legal system,

989
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: this thing would not get out of the batter's box,

990
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: and that everything I know about Judge Kavanaugh screams that

991
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: this didn't happen and all the other things. So to

992
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: my good friend friends on the other side who are

993
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: struggling I think an FBI investigation this is going to

994
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: do nothing. It's not gonna tell you anymore than we

995
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: know now. It's gonna just keep it going and going

996
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: and going till he breaks, and he walked and toil

997
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: the next five come forward. I'm going to vote yes,

998
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell his two daughters that I'm proud

999
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: of your dad and I really really believe he's a

1000
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: good man. And I'm gonna tell Dr Ford, I am

1001
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: sorry you had to go through this too. All right,

1002
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: let's get to our busy telephones, as we can tell you.

1003
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: Eric is in Florida. Eric, Hi, how are you glad?

1004
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: You called? Sir? Yes, sir? What's going on? Are you doing?

1005
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you well? Resours calling? Was? I

1006
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: think there's actually a silver liing to this whole thing,

1007
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: and that is, um, you know, they're asking for an

1008
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: FBI investigation. They're gonna get it, and uh, you know,

1009
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: it's one of these things where I don't think the

1010
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: Democrats were actually anticipating at whatever happened. And now as

1011
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: a result of it, what is potentially going to happen

1012
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: is the FBI is going to be turned onto these people.

1013
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: So when they start investigating these claims of gang rape,

1014
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be looking into people like um Avanadi and

1015
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: how these people potentially may have gotten involved, or how

1016
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: people's personal information was leaked from confidential sources in Congress. Well,

1017
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: I think you know, listen, there's a lot, there's a

1018
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: lot to leak. Here's the problem, and I keep saying it,

1019
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: but nobody seems to want to hear it. But it matters.

1020
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: We already know the FBI does not make recommendations. We

1021
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: know they don't reach conclusions. And we also know that

1022
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: the four witnesses in the case of ms Ford have

1023
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: already gone on the record, and as it relates to

1024
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: what they did on the record, they did it under

1025
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: the threat of felony. So I mean, unless they're willing

1026
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: to take the felony charge, I would assume they're gonna

1027
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: stand on their position. Um to me, this is a

1028
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: delayed tactic, and I think all these Rhino Republicans predictably, well,

1029
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: what what is it they think they're gonna get here,

1030
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: except that they get the delay that they want, and

1031
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: that you know, I just this is why I've been

1032
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: saying this is the most important mid term election in

1033
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: our lifetime. This can all come to an end. You

1034
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: know this, This can all stop if you give the president,

1035
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: Congress and the Senate. And that's why you know this

1036
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: blue wave. If it happens, it's gonna be so much worse.

1037
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: I gotta take a break here. We'll come back all

1038
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: of our news round Up, Information Overload more with Jonathan Gillham,

1039
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: Daniel McLaughlin, our buddy UH from the Fox News Channel,

1040
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: Bowling is going to be with us, and much more

1041
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: as we continue. Coming up next our final news round

1042
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: Up and Information Overload hour. I have been speaking with

1043
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: a number of people on the other side. We've had

1044
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: conversations ongoing for a while with regard to UM making

1045
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: sure that we do due diligence here, and I think

1046
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: it would be UH proper to delay the floor vote

1047
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: for up to but not more than one week in

1048
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: order to let the FBI UM continue to do an

1049
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: investigation limited in time and scope to the current allegations

1050
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: that are there and limited time to know more than

1051
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 1: one week. And I will vote to advance the bill

1052
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: UH to the floor with that understanding. And I've spoken

1053
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: to a few other members UM who on my side

1054
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: of the aisle that may be supportive as well, but

1055
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: that's my position. I think that that we we ought

1056
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: to do what we can to make sure that that

1057
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: we do all due diligence with an nomination. That's important.

1058
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: And I want to say that this committee has acted

1059
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: properly and the chairman has been over backwards to do

1060
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: investigations from this committee and to delay this vote in

1061
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: this committee for a week so that Judge or that Uh,

1062
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: that this Ford Dr Ford could be heard, and she

1063
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: was yesterday. So so that's with that agreement, I will

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Speaker 1: vote to adance bill to the floor a right that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, earlier today, the drama unfolding in the Senate

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Speaker 1: with Arizona Senator Jeff Flake name, I guess is appropriate

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Speaker 1: because he had said he was going to vote it

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Speaker 1: out a committee, and then a bunch of Democrats corner

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Speaker 1: room and then he's like, maybe we're just another week

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Speaker 1: of investigations. You know what that means? Another week of

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Speaker 1: Michael Labnati uh gang and trail rape and and boys

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Speaker 1: lined up. I guess stories will be coming out for

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Speaker 1: yet another week. You know, look at what we went

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Speaker 1: through yesterday. If that if the testimony of Judge Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: didn't move you to see that this man is innocent

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Speaker 1: of this. I don't I don't know. What will you

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Speaker 1: know if you look at the charges just to review.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the case of Professor Ford, she made

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Speaker 1: these allegations. Remember the Democratic Party knew back in July,

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Speaker 1: and they did nothing. They've had the opportunity to investigate

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Speaker 1: the whole time. And Diane Feinstein is meeting with Judge

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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh alone. And little does Judge Kavanaugh know that behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, while she's not telling him a thing, she's

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Speaker 1: getting a radical left wing lawyer for for Professor Ford,

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Speaker 1: a person that didn't support Paula Jones and a person

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Speaker 1: that did support creepy L. Frankin. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: at the charges thirty six years ago out Republicans have

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Speaker 1: been more than a commendating the president, more than accommodating us.

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Speaker 1: Professor Ford deserved to be heard. These allegations are serious.

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Speaker 1: She didn't remember a date or a day of the week,

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Speaker 1: or a location or how she got to him from

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Speaker 1: the party, when the where the alleged crime took place.

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Speaker 1: And then we have four witnesses, four of them, and

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Speaker 1: a new statement again today by the person that supposedly

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Speaker 1: was in the room corroborating they she named these people

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Speaker 1: as people that would corroborate her story, except all four

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Speaker 1: now and sworn statements under penalty of felony. Under penalty

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Speaker 1: of felony. That means it's all been investigated anyway, and

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Speaker 1: that includes Professor Ford's friend named Leland Kaiser. Her attorney

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Speaker 1: released a statement simply put ms. Kaiser does not know

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Speaker 1: Mr Kavanaugh, no recollection of ever being at a party

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Speaker 1: or gathering where he was present with or without Dr

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Speaker 1: Ford anyway. So this all goes on, and now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see what happened. This was, this is, this is

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Speaker 1: what the Democrats wanted. So they got Flake at least

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Speaker 1: for a week. And now the question is, well, what

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Speaker 1: is Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski going to do? I

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Speaker 1: don't know what else we're gonna get when the four

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Speaker 1: main people, Remember, the Senate has their own investigative body.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's been the main argument that the left

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Speaker 1: has been making again and we need an FBI investigation. Well,

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Speaker 1: the problem with the FBI investigation, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: that was the big talking point is they don't make conclusions.

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Speaker 1: And of course Brett Kavanaugh has already been investigated by

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Speaker 1: the FBI six separate times. None of these things have

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Speaker 1: ever come up. And the person that told us that

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of you don't want to use the

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Speaker 1: FBI as investigation was Joe Biden. Back in here's what

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Speaker 1: he said. The next person that refers to an FBI

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Speaker 1: reporters being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything. FBI explicitly

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Speaker 1: does not in this or any other case reach a

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Speaker 1: conclusion period period. So judge, there's no reason why you

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Speaker 1: should know this. The reason why we cannot rely on

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Speaker 1: the FBI report. You wouldn't like it if we did,

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Speaker 1: because it is inconclusive, they say, he said, she said,

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Speaker 1: and they said period. So when people wave an FBI

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Speaker 1: report before, you understand they do not. They do not

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Speaker 1: They do not reach conclusions, they do not make as

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Speaker 1: my friend points out, more atticate, they do not make recommendations,

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Speaker 1: They do not make conclusions. And the whole thing is

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Speaker 1: is everybody has known this now, and what's happened is

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Speaker 1: what I pointed out is forget about due process, forget

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Speaker 1: about presumption of In a sense, frankly, if this heads

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Speaker 1: in the direction democrats want, that means you know, smear slam,

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Speaker 1: under character, assassination. It's just gonna keep happening to any

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Speaker 1: but nobody's ever wanna gonna want to go in the

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Speaker 1: public eye. This guy has had a nearly forty year

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Speaker 1: career and up to thirteen days ago, not a single

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Speaker 1: word against him. Less than thirteen days ago, nothing like

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Speaker 1: this ever coming up his entire life. And this is

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Speaker 1: where we now find ourselves. Anyway, News round Up, Information Overload.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gillham, author of Sheep No More. Danielle McLaughlin, attorney,

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Speaker 1: constitutional expert, liberal, Uh, let me ask you this. You

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Speaker 1: just heard Joe Biden and what he said that they

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01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: don't reach conclusions, they don't give recommendations in any way. Um,

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Speaker 1: we already have the four people that Professor Forded named.

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Speaker 1: They've all given sworn statements under the threat of felony.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are we expecting if we don't know where

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Speaker 1: the house is, we can't go back and look for

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Speaker 1: something forensically. This isn't forensic files, which there's a show

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Speaker 1: that I've watched a lot. So what new information can

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Speaker 1: we possibly get? Okay, Sean, Hey, Jonathan, great to be

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Speaker 1: with you. This has been a rough week for all

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Speaker 1: of us. I think, regardless of where you sit on

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Speaker 1: the political spectrum, um, I think the point of the

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: FBI investigation is clearly to gather more facts and to

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Speaker 1: talk to the people who have provided to warn affidavits.

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Speaker 1: One thing that's really important to know it is that

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Speaker 1: the witnesses don't say it never happened. They say they

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Speaker 1: don't remember that it happened. And those are two very

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Speaker 1: different things, both in a court of law and even

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Speaker 1: in the set slow down. Though, if they don't remember

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Speaker 1: any such party in any such way, at any such time,

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Speaker 1: and they've made that statement a sworn statement under the

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Speaker 1: threat of felony, what else can you give me any

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Speaker 1: possible evidence that anybody else could find? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dr Ford indicated, No, no, no, no, no, what what

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Speaker 1: possible evidence can you find? Well, you can talk to them,

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Speaker 1: maybe you'll be able to they've already been talked to. Well,

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Speaker 1: they've ready given sworn statements under the threat of felony.

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Speaker 1: So if they change their statement, they would be guilty

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Speaker 1: of lying under oath. Well, this is true. Look, I

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Speaker 1: actually think this is a win for Republicans, and I'd

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Speaker 1: like to explain why you've got a better chance of

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Speaker 1: confirming Bratt Havanaugh if this investigation is allowed to go ahead,

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Speaker 1: because I think there will be new facts uncovered. I

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Speaker 1: think the American people will be tearing each other apart

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Speaker 1: a little bit less because we will have more to

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Speaker 1: go on instead of just what we believe to be true.

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Speaker 1: And but I'm asking you a very simple question, and

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Speaker 1: you can't answer now that they've given. They've all given,

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Speaker 1: all witnesses mentioned by Professor Ford have given sworn statements

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Speaker 1: under the threat of felony. Okay, you could talk to

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Speaker 1: them again, and if they contradict themselves, they've committed a felony. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not true. So if I say on Monday that

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Speaker 1: I don't remember, and then I talked to any FBI

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Speaker 1: agent on Wednesday who gives me ships other pieces of

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Speaker 1: information on that day, maybe I do remember, and maybe

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Speaker 1: I can issue a denial. So I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: a clear instance of of you know, of perjury. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually fine. If it didn't happen and

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Speaker 1: in six days later they see it did happen, that's

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Speaker 1: that's perjury. But if you say you don't remember on

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Speaker 1: a given on a given day and in six days later,

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Speaker 1: you have more information and it lights something up from

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Speaker 1: thirty six years ago. That's not perjury, okay, But all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you remember after thirty six years as

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Speaker 1: if the first time they interviewed you, and all the

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Speaker 1: days you've been watching all this you haven't said, oh,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm changing my testimony, but now you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. It would seem at that point that it's

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Speaker 1: political and illogical that something new could possibly be found,

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Speaker 1: except that Democrats want more time, for more people, for

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Speaker 1: more smears, for more avanati digging. I guess, uh. Jonathan Gillen, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing that we have to

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Speaker 1: look at and that the American people need to understand

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Speaker 1: is that what is occurring is not so much of

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Speaker 1: a hearing as it is a trial in the court

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Speaker 1: of public opinion. And the FBI doesn't investigate for public opinion.

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Speaker 1: We investigate, uh. And in the case of these background checks,

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Speaker 1: we are a collector of information. And if there is

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Speaker 1: a crime that we find is committed, uh, we usually

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Speaker 1: if it was something of the sexual nature in this case,

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Speaker 1: we hand that over to the locals to investigate it.

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Speaker 1: The problem that we have in this particular situation is

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Speaker 1: that when we look at other um types of cases,

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Speaker 1: whether it be you know, the ones that have been

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Speaker 1: recently in the news, Harvey Weinstein Cosby, there's a pattern

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Speaker 1: of events, there's known meetings that are that can be

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Speaker 1: looked at, schedules where we know that these things have occurred. UH,

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Speaker 1: and there's multiple sources coming forward that are not friends,

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Speaker 1: that are from different areas that can corrup rate stories

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Speaker 1: as well as UH rumors and known facts about people

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Speaker 1: that these things have happened. In this case, none of

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Speaker 1: that can be corroborated. If I was an investigator, There's

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Speaker 1: nothing here except for more hearsay. There's no facts that

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Speaker 1: are going to be able to to be brought out.

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Speaker 1: There's no evidence of of a crime that may or

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Speaker 1: may not have occurred other than what someone said. And

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna do any good. It's just going to

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Speaker 1: further uh the outrage in the court of public opinion.

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Speaker 1: And the only thing that suffers when that is the case.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's so unrealistic to think that the

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Speaker 1: Democrats in a week, you're gonna say, when the FBI

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Speaker 1: comes back with their again, they're not gonna make a

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Speaker 1: conclusion or recommendation, and then they're gonna come back, and

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01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: then the Democrats are gonna say, well, now we need

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Speaker 1: to investigate these two other things and then we'll be done,

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Speaker 1: and then the delay continues. Well, you say that, but

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Speaker 1: there's nothing. But every dem acrad has already said no,

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Speaker 1: except for like three as it relates to cabinet. Most

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Speaker 1: of them said they will do anything it takes to

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Speaker 1: destroy him. Well, and on the Republicans side there all right,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about Republicans. I am. I am saying

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Speaker 1: to you that not one Democrat is going to change

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: their mind based on the FBI report. They're on record

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Speaker 1: saying no. They said no before he They said no,

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Speaker 1: many of them the day he was named, right and

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01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 1: some and some Republicans sinues the night day he was named.

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Speaker 1: And as these information, these allegations came out because they've

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Speaker 1: known him. He serves in the second most important court

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Speaker 1: in the country, and many even back then offered advice

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Speaker 1: and consent when he got confirmed, So they knew him.

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Speaker 1: But to say no because it's Donald Trump's pick is

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Speaker 1: a very different Your analogy doesn't fit. Look on these

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Speaker 1: court nominations for years and years and years. This is

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Speaker 1: a new law. But I do think it's a new low.

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Speaker 1: But you want to continue going lower? Is that what

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Let's keep going lower. Let's go see how

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Speaker 1: we think. I do think it is better for this

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Speaker 1: country that there is a week given to look in

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Speaker 1: another week given, and you and and what is the

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Speaker 1: new information you can possibly get? My point and Jonathan's

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Speaker 1: point is you can't get any new information? Are we

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Speaker 1: gotta take a break? Uh? Right, as we continue, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Hillham and Daniel McLaughlin uh, commenting about Jeff Flake and

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Speaker 1: his antics from earlier today. Uh. Jonathan will start with you, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is one thing that does bother me, Sean.

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Speaker 1: Is that and nobody's really talking about this yet, is

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Speaker 1: that if this is handed over back to the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and this fact that Flake is the one that's saying that,

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01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: is that this should occur. Um, we do still have

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Speaker 1: a realistic expectation that the deep state is part of

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Speaker 1: the FBI. And at the level that this is that

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Speaker 1: if it's handed back to the FBI, my worry is

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01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: it actually some he will create something that's ticitious that

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Speaker 1: is in the FBI. It's not like they haven't done

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Speaker 1: that in the past three years, so I also think

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Speaker 1: that that's something that should be considered. And what's been

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Speaker 1: presented so far, there's no evidence that that can prove anything.

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Speaker 1: I think there's been enough testimony where the Judge Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: can be confirmed. And if it goes back, there is

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Speaker 1: the chance of that, I hate to say it, but

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Speaker 1: there's the chance that the deep state could get involved

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Speaker 1: in this. I've got a solution to that, you know.

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Speaker 1: Interview break Kavina's college roommate, interview my judge, do some

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Speaker 1: investigation as to when he worked at that supermarket. Release

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Speaker 1: all of the three O two's, which are the notes

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Speaker 1: of the investigations to the public. None of the stuff

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Speaker 1: is classified, and then we all have the facts in

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Speaker 1: our hands, and hopefully some of this part of the

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Speaker 1: bickering will calm down a little bit. All Right, We'll

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Speaker 1: take a break. Thank you both of being with us.

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Speaker 1: When we come back. Eric Bowling weighs in on this,

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01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: and we gotta tell you something kind of a big

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Speaker 1: EN's been here for the program, and Eric and Linda

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01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: and much more san is our number have this poison

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01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: being dumped in our country and our communities are suffering.

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Speaker 1: Kids are dropping dead every day of the week. Parents

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01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: of good kids are going up to their bedrooms finding

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: their kids past out day. I mean, this is a

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01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: crisis that we've never seen before, so we need a

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: greatest sense of urgency. Al Right, glad you want us

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01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: now to the top of the seawan. That is from

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01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 1: a brand new documentary. Actually, our own Linda had a

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: big part to play in all of this, Uh, Sarah Carter.

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: It's a nonprofit group called Dark Wire, and in this

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01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: DC on Monday, they are going to do the premiere

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01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: of this documentary and at some point we're gonna make

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Speaker 1: it available to all of you as well. It's extraordinarily

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: well done. If you're a parent, you need to watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's called Not in Vain. It features the stark reality

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: and truth and the dark truth about drugs crossing the

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01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: open borders and the incredible need for national security at

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01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: our borders. Joining us now is a good friend of

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01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: the program, former host of The Five on the Fox

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Speaker 1: News Channel. He's now on CRTV, and my friend Derek

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Speaker 1: Bowling is back with us. Before we get to this,

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: have you've been watching this madness and Jeff Flake all

1320
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: day on the Supreme Court. Sean, I'm just I'm I

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01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,919
Speaker 1: tweeted that P. T. Barnum would be proud of the circus,

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01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: and then I just said, you know, a circus intermission

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: until Tuesday. It's amazing what we've reduced the Honorable Respectable

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01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: Senate Chamber to to this type of sanity. But finally

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01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: they pushed it through and then we're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: vote on Tuesday, which which we should see. I'm not

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Speaker 1: so sure we're gonna see it on Tuesday, though. I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, when he gets if he gets

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Speaker 1: Susan Collins Lisa Murkowski, then that's it. I can see

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01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: that happening. And by the way, the thing is is

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01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: under penalty of a felony, all of the people, the

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: four eye witnesses in the case of Professor Ford. Let

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,480
Speaker 1: me tell you what that gives. That gives the Democrats

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01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: another week of the Michael Avanadis of the world, you know,

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01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: coming up with more bizarre It's clear, you know. So

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01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: it's not even it's it's not even the rule of

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01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: law or evidence in the court. It's not even the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: It's not even American the world. Do you want to

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: do you want to live in a past, a world

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01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: where a simple accusation of thirty five year old thirty

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01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: five year old foggy recollection can put someone's name, reputation, family,

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01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: and livelihood at risk. It's insanity. We've got to get

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01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: back to sanity at some point. I think, hopefully Tuesday

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Speaker 1: that will happen. Yeah, hopefully it will. Um. What we

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01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: witnessed yesterday was beyond a circus. It was sad. You

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01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,839
Speaker 1: you you watch the destruction of a human being literally

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01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: in twelve days. How to destroy a man in his

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01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: family in twelve days after what was a without well

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01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: this zero corroboration, and then so many of the other

1350
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: stories have been debunked. It's it's sad that this is

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01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: what the state of the country. Sean. You and I

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01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: both had one need to broderick on our shows I TV.

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 1: You had her at the handity and she I asked

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01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: I had I had the fortune of having thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: where I had a really long sit down with her,

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Speaker 1: and I asked her, can you tell me details of

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01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: the room? She described to him, I said, do you

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Speaker 1: remember the ride there? She described the ride there? So

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Speaker 1: what the hotel lobby looks like? She described in mipid detail,

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Speaker 1: everything about that night, that that morning with with Bill

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Speaker 1: Klint when he raped her. Now for me that this

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01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: is further back then, then Dr Ford has to remember,

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01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: and Dr doesn't remember a lot of the details. It

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01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: tells me something doesn't seem right, man, and it looks now.

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Speaker 1: With one Broderick, she had been at a conference. Within

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes, the person she was at the conference with

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: saw her in her room with her lip which was

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: bitten bloody three times its normal size, and immediately told

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01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 1: somebody that she didn't want to go. She was afraid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and she was. She was also talking about the ride

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Speaker 1: to the event, to the hotel where the event, in

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Speaker 1: the area where the event was going to happen, the

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Speaker 1: ride back. When you look, when you listen to Dr

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01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: Forced testimony, she can't remember how she got to the

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01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: to the party. She doesn't remember how she got home.

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01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: She wasn't sure what day of the week. It was

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01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: vivid detail and wanted to Roderick of a rape and

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: and alleged sexual misconduct act against um Miss Dr Ford

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01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: very very few details. I'm not suggesting she didn't get

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Speaker 1: harassed or molested. I'm simply suggesting it's not certain that

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Speaker 1: it was Brett Kavanaugh that did it. We want to switch.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's a Friday here, and we've been

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01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 1: spending almost all week on this and there's a lot

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01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: of important breaking news, but what we're about to talk

1385
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: about has become very near, dear and close to my

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01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: heart in large part because of the tragedy in your

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: life and you being a friend of mine. And that

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01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: is just a little over a year ago, your son,

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01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: Chase Pauling died. You got phone call and he had

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01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: purchased a zanex a annex is an anti anxiety pill,

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01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: and in it it was laced with fenton al and

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01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: he died that night or that day. And I want

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01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: you to talk a about your experience, and then I'm

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01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna bring Linda on as well, and why this And

1395
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: this is a nonprofit This is a nonprofit documentary um

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01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: and it's called Not in Vain and premieres in Washington,

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01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: d C. On Monday. And you always say to me,

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Speaker 1: and you say to anybody you talk to, and I

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01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: know you're working with the President, You're doing a lot

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01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: of big things to to make people aware of how

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01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: dangerous these drugs are. But you always say, don't think

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01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: it can happen to your kids, because it can, and

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01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: your I believe you because I've seen it too often. Now, Suan,

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01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: you were there from from the minute it happened. They

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01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: got a call. I got a call from you. I

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: got a call from the President the next day, and

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01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: I was in Adrian and I had my wife put

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01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: in an absolute tale and you just the call you

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01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 1: never expect to get. Just trust to a depth that's

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01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: she describable. Um, I told you that I told the

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01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: story on the show a couple of times, but she

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01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: pulled the car over when when we got the call,

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01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: we heard it and she fell onto the road and

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01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: I had to pick her up and bring her back

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 1: onto the side. And we sat there in confusion showing

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01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: I get a call from the call from the president.

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01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: So we fast forward a little bit and I spent

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01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of part of the last year in

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01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: a month um talking to people, talking to groups, talking

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01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: to families, talking to these uh talking to turning points

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01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: USA kids and parents about what what what we need

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01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: to do and kids really need to understand that. Eric

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01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: Chase was a sophomore in college. He, like probably millions

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01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: of other sophomore. Millions of other college kids bought us

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01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: dannics on campus. It wasn't prescriptive and it was last

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01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 1: know he passed. And I tell kids NonStop, one pill

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01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: can killed. If you put a pill in your mouth,

1428
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: just understand it may be the last thing you do.

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: I tell parents, parents, Mom, dad, listen, your kid isn't

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01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: too smart, too academic to to, too adorable to athletic,

1431
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: too white, too black to eight, too straight to. Since

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01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: gender doesn't matter, it will touch your kid at one point.

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01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: There's nobody that not impacted the syndrome. Yes, you guys,

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01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: just add one quick thing. So last time I was

1435
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: on the show, I talked to Linda a little bit,

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01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: but it was got such wide appeal that you know,

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01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: Demie Lvado um was was prouned dead. She was she

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01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: overdosed on opioid and she was literally pronounced daddy at

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01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: the see him. But they brought her back, They got

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01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: her back to life. After that, within a couple of days,

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01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: Demiel Levado's mom, Diana de Legarza called me and said, look,

1442
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: I need to get involved in this. My daughter and

1443
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: I are so close. I love her as soon as

1444
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: she's out of out of trouble. I want to get

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01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: involved and said, I said, Diana, you will be the

1446
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: minute you're ready, and Demi's ready, You're gonna be part

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01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: of this. I want to bring you on to this

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01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: so we can we can save some lives together. And

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01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: Linda had contacted me, your your producer to contact me

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01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,759
Speaker 1: and said, hey, can you get involved in this premiere

1451
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: in the movie. I said, I will, But you know

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01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: what I'd like to do is I'd like to bring

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01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: Demi Levado's mom and tell her story too, because it's

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01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: really compelling. I mean assume it just shows that you

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01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 1: can touch anyone, shown anybody. So she's going to be

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01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: part of that premiere as well. That and this is

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01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: what scares me. And you know you're never gonna recover

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01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: from this. And I and I know you're strong. I

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01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: know your wife is strong. I know you both. But

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01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: you know you told me once that if it's just

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01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: one the size of one grain of salt or two

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01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: or three grains of salt from your shaker, and I'm

1463
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: not talking about the big grains of salt. It's a

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01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: little tiny ionised salt grain that can kill a kid.

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01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: And they're putting it purposefully in the in all of

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01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: these drugs, from heroin to weed and everything. They're putting

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01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: it everywhere, and some dealers are even looking out looking

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01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: for some of the strongest stuff that can kill, because

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01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: they'll get known as the dealer with the strongest drugs

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01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: and doesn't even bother them they kill someone starts being strong.

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01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: Show I'm not no, no you you you have been

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: through you. You lost the love of your life, You

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01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: lost your child. No parents should ever lose a child ever.

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01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: And you know you get a you know, I remember

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01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: when you got the call. You were in the car.

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01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: You told me your wife collapsed. I mean, it's it's horrible.

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01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Let me let me bring Linda in for a second. Because, um,

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01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: you know this nonprofit group you put, you help put

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01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: this whole thing together. So I gotta give you a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit. And it's called Dark Wire, and you

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Speaker 1: this is your first documentary. It's not in vain. Sarah

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Speaker 1: Carter also is working on the project created by the organization.

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Speaker 1: But you also trace where this is all coming from,

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Speaker 1: which is a big component of this. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the most misunderstood things is that final is coming

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Speaker 1: across an open border. It's a national security crisis. What

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Speaker 1: person doesn't want to protect their children? And when Eric

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Speaker 1: started doing all this stuff, I said, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing this project with Sarah Carter. She's a business partner

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Speaker 1: in this nonprofit trying to get the word out and

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Speaker 1: save some kids. You know, if you take, if you

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Speaker 1: want to take an analogy that really hits home, think

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01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: about a seven thirty seven crashing every single day with

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Speaker 1: every passenger on the flight dying, except they're all under twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening in our country's opioid losses, over seventy

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Speaker 1: people a year. And then we're not even talking about

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Speaker 1: the lives ruined by addiction. And that's the thing. We're losing.

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Speaker 1: A generation. Babies are being born addicted to heroin and opioids.

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Speaker 1: While we were making the film, my cousin overdosed and

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Speaker 1: died and she left behind five kids. She had just

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Speaker 1: gotten out of rehab, just got clean, was in a

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Speaker 1: halfway house, took a shot of heroin. The heroin was

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Speaker 1: lace with fentinyl, and she died. And Eric, this is

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Speaker 1: what's happening to these kids. Let's say they hit granny's

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Speaker 1: medicine cabinet and as a percoset of vicodin an OxyContin,

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Speaker 1: and then they take it and then they like it.

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Speaker 1: Then they take it and they like it, and the

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Speaker 1: next thing they were on the street paying eighty bucks

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Speaker 1: a pill and they can't afford it, and then someone

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Speaker 1: offers a ten dollar bag of heroin and their life's over.

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Speaker 1: Even the work now shanag worse. You're right up until

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Speaker 1: the last part where it's it's now cheaper by hit

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Speaker 1: an opioid on the street. You can get a pill

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Speaker 1: of opioid of whatever it is, oxy whatever their their

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Speaker 1: their favorite type of opioid is for five bucks. And

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Speaker 1: cops are telling law enforcements tell me we can't we

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Speaker 1: can't keep up. It's too hard to find you because

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Speaker 1: you can't smell with dogs. They say, for five dollars

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Speaker 1: they can get high in an opioid, and they cost

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Speaker 1: them more to buy a joint or cocaine, so they're

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Speaker 1: of course attracted right to it a stronger stuff. The

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Speaker 1: problem is some of the stuff that's on the street.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff that's on the street is

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Speaker 1: as Linda points out, is coming from places like China,

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Speaker 1: North Korea as well, and they're laced with deadly, deadly drawn.

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Speaker 1: The fat milk is a horse tranquilizer. They give fet

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Speaker 1: mold the people in the last dying days of cancer

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Speaker 1: when they're in the massive monster pain and and they

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Speaker 1: just they it's the last ditch after to keep people

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Speaker 1: out of pain. Problem is, like I said, three granules

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Speaker 1: of that idi salt is enough to kill a two

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Speaker 1: hundred pound man, and frankly, it's it's killing our youth.

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Speaker 1: When that's right, Linda's on it. Thank you for tell

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Speaker 1: us about what Thank you. And I know you're going

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Speaker 1: to be at the premier of the documentary. I offered,

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Speaker 1: but Linda said, no, I don't want you there because

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Speaker 1: you'd embarrassed me. Um. Yeah, that's what I said exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's a quote. But I'm very proud of you for

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Speaker 1: doing this job. And I'm proud of you, know, Sarah

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Speaker 1: and the group of people that you put together and

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01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: pulled together. Uh, and you do this all on your own.

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Speaker 1: The only idea was offer you know, moral support really

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Speaker 1: because I supported the project. Um. And we've been very

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Speaker 1: fortunate because we've had people like Eric come on board

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Speaker 1: and demil About's mom, Diane Delagard, she's gonna come gona

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Speaker 1: come Monday, right, She's coming Monday. She's speaking for the

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Speaker 1: first time in an open forum, like you know, on

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Speaker 1: a stage with Eric a little bit of course, please Eric, please.

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Speaker 1: So so Diane calls me, she says, I had to

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Speaker 1: get involved and said we have to do this, but

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Speaker 1: we have to do this with with with Demi's consent,

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Speaker 1: because she had to all this is all about and

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Speaker 1: her recovery. And she said, okay, when we sit down,

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Speaker 1: and she sat down with Demi as she started to

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Speaker 1: feel better and and and he has fully fully thrown

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Speaker 1: her support behind this. Diane said, look, I don't I'm

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Speaker 1: not very media savvy. And I said, look, listen to this,

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Speaker 1: and I want to walk you through this. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's a treachery, it's horror in this for the

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Speaker 1: first few times, just to relive some of those moments.

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Speaker 1: And and so we're gonna do that. We're gonna hold

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Speaker 1: her handle in the slowly bringing into into the media

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Speaker 1: spotlight with this and make sure that she doesn't overwhelmed

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Speaker 1: by it. But she has a really interesting story too,

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Speaker 1: because her daughter was clean for a long time and

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Speaker 1: so when about six years six years and then bad people.

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Speaker 1: They they're they're throwing a party and Demi's clean at

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Speaker 1: the point and there and they throw a party and

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Speaker 1: some of the dealers got behind the wall, the security wall.

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Speaker 1: They got inside and all it took was one night

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Speaker 1: and Demi finds herself literally but literally almost dead, if

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Speaker 1: not dead, and they bring her back. So it's so scary,

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Speaker 1: so dangerous out there, Sean Um. Now, well, I know

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Speaker 1: that you're doing the premiere on Monday, and I think

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01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: it's important for people to see this. And you go

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01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: to a go to um, go to the dark wire

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Speaker 1: dot com, the dark wire dot com and we have

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01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,799
Speaker 1: a few seats open. So if you submit your email

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01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: and send it our way, we'll get you into the premiere.

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Speaker 1: And then how over time are people going to be

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Speaker 1: able to see it? We have an announcement yet, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna be streaming it. We're doing some distribution

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Speaker 1: deals on Amazon and other places, and we'll get it

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Speaker 1: out there for people to see it. Yeah. You know, Eric,

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Speaker 1: I know you don't get I know you never fully recover,

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Speaker 1: but I know that both you and your wife you've

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Speaker 1: taken what is the most painful experience in life, and

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Speaker 1: you've you've now turned it into something that you're trying

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Speaker 1: to help save the lives of others. I love you

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Speaker 1: for doing that. You're an example to all of us.

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Speaker 1: And um, I just wish you and your family you

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Speaker 1: know this the best. And it's happening Monday in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Not in Vain is the brand new documentary.

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Speaker 1: It is a nonprofit group. The dark Wire dot com.

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Speaker 1: The dark Wire dot Com. Hannity, Fox News, we got

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01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: great line up for you tonight and have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what crazy news comes out by Monday, but

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Speaker 1: we'll be on it. We're going back to our nation's

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Speaker 1: capital on Monday for this reason.