1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 3: Our colleague Noel is off on an adventure, but will 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: return very soon. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 4: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 4: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 4: they don't want you to know, and we are so 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 4: pleased that you ad join us this evening on May 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: twenty second, twenty twenty five. In fact, Dylan, Matt and 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: I have had some dreams about this moment occur, and 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: we're going to tell you why our dreams are in 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: this sense predictive or in this case. But before we 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: do that, we've got to get a little bit YOUNGI 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: in and dig through the super consciousness for some rut. 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 5: To begas, I sense a disturbance in the root, to begas. 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: What what? 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: How did you even? 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: Wow? We are never not doing this bit, folks. We 23 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 4: hope you enjoy it. If you are, if you're irritated, 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: If you don't think it's as cool as we do, 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: then we kindly invite you to write directly to our 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: complaint department, Jonathan Strickland at iHeartMedia dot com, available twenty 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: four hours in the evening, seven nights a week. 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: Make sure to include specifics on how you would improve 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: the route Bega's segment. 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, walk us through it. And we also are 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: aware that there's a ton of purported dream interpretation right 32 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: symbolism of dreams, and mattaw is looking this up earlier 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: before we recorded. There are even in trees or theories 34 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 4: or interpretations about what a Roota Bega means in a dream. 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: According to askdreamorcle dot com, a source with which we 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: are not super familiar, dreaming about a Ruta Bega expresses 37 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: that quote, if you are single, love will knock on 38 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: your door very soon. You are doing your best trying 39 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: to balance various aspects of your life. The truth will 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 4: be the perfect ingredient for trust to grow in your relationships. 41 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 4: What I don't know it goes on? Do you want 42 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: to know the rest? 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: Or what I'm going to counter you with psychologist world 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: that says to see turnips growing or ruta Vegas denotes 45 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: that your prospects will brighten and that you will be 46 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: much elated over your success. 47 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: There we go, I like that, I like this, like 48 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 4: daily newspaper horoscope column vibe for the Rude Bega. A 49 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: friend will ask you to forgive something that happened a 50 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: long time ago and that hurt you at the time. 51 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: There is a force that is drawing you toward a 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: certain direction, thinking or happit what you're not letting anyone 53 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: stand in the way of your goals. 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: For a young woman to sow turn up seed foretells 55 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 3: that she will inherit good property and win a handsome husband. 56 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of romance to dream, Ruda Begas 57 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: that we were not aware of. Right, it's fair to 58 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: say neither of us were aware of this. Well we 59 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: know now, we know now if we knew then what 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: we know now? Right, This is our of course, our 61 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: listener mail segment. We're going to do something different because 62 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: earlier previously on stuff they don't want you to know. 63 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: We went through yet another of our dream phases, and 64 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: we asked all of our fellow listeners, all of us 65 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: playing along at home, to share dreams that stood out 66 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 4: to us in some way, particularly dreams that appear to 67 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: violate the known laws of physical or linear time, by 68 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: which we mean dreams that predict or foretell the future. 69 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: This is an ancient belief. It is quite controversial in 70 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 4: the world of modern accepted science. However, statistically speaking, you 71 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: have yourself experienced something like this, or you have met 72 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: someone who believes they have experienced something like that. So 73 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: we're going to hear from can't Sleep, We're going to 74 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: talk with Cheese, We're going to take a word from 75 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: our sponsors, and then I don't know, Matt, what do 76 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 4: you think? Maybe we start with old Klamari. 77 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Calamari it is. 78 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: And we've returned, jumping straight to Calamari. Kalamari says on 79 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: a recent episode, you all asked listeners to submit experiences 80 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: involving prophetic dreams. I've experienced a handful of dreams that 81 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: have come true in the past, usually involving things associated 82 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: with strong emotional attachments. The first occurred when I was 83 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: in grade four. When these do happen, they don't feel 84 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: like normal dreams. They're more like a memory. I say 85 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: that because I can remember distinct details like smells, jumping 86 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: out for a second, we just talked about that, right, 87 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 3: smells very strong in dreams, though not for me for 88 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: some reason specifically, but they don't. 89 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: The interesting thing here, Kalamari, is that a lot of 90 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: people do not report smells in dreams. 91 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so let's jump back in. Calamari says I 92 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: can remember distinct details like smells, the way dust particles 93 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: move through nearby sunlight, how a person is positioned, or 94 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: what they're doing during the dream. One dream kind of 95 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: confused me because in it I was talking to my 96 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: mom as she was cooking breakfast. I suddenly started talking gibberish. 97 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Well, yodaj mayo da. 98 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: And we do know that communication is sometimes very strange 99 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: in dreams. Often it has been reported that writing or 100 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: like looking at language is difficult to understand or incomprehensible. 101 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 4: Which is weird because they again like the the studies 102 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: regarding smell or old factory stimuli. I'm I'm not bragging. 103 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: I can read in dreams and actually read a lot 104 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: of cool there. But the I don't know if I 105 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: should occursed on that one. But you're absolutely right, Matt. 106 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 4: It is it is common that due to dream logic, 107 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: the dreamer can understand and can recognize this symbolic platform 108 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: or avenue of communication. This character is speaking, this book 109 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: is open, I am reading this piece of mail or whatever. 110 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: But then if you try to concentrate on it, even 111 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: lucid dreamers can find that quite difficult. 112 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I find that difficult. 113 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: Jumping back to Calamari, caller says, we're having the dream 114 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: about mom cooking, smelling everything. Otherwise, it was much like 115 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: my other dreams that have come true. The following morning, 116 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: I went into the kitchen because I could smell that 117 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: breakfast was being made and saw moms standing there preparing 118 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: things as she cooked. I walked over to talk to her, 119 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: and as we began talking, I realized that the way 120 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: the sunlight was coming through the window, how my mom 121 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: was moving, along with other details that things were going 122 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: exactly as they were in my dream. Well, let's talk 123 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: about that really quickly, mm being mom cooking breakfast around 124 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: the same time in the morning. How just realistically, if 125 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: we if we pull back completely as objective as we can. 126 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 4: Because she's already in situ in media arrests, she's already cooking, 127 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: which means smells are being generated. 128 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: Smells are being generated the light is probably coming in 129 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: through the window in a way that you have seen 130 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: before because of you know, this is the way the 131 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: sun enters your home at this time of day during 132 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: breakfast time. She moves the way Mom moves, So she's 133 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: moving in the same mannerisms, the same you know, movements 134 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 3: of her legs and her arms as she always does. 135 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: Just saying this doesn't mean in my mind or think objectively, 136 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: that dream version of Mom doing that thing exactly that way, 137 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: looking like this is because of the dream. It could 138 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: be this is what Mom looks like making breakfast. 139 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: But here's the interesting part though, right, because it continues 140 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 4: and I agree with you, so uh, Calamari, you continue 141 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 4: and you say, you know, I walked over to her. 142 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 4: As we began talking, I realized the way the sunlight 143 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: was coming in through the window, how my mom was 144 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: moving like you said, Matt, other details. Everything is exactly 145 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: as it was in my dream. I started to tell 146 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: her about my dream. Then I realized I needed to 147 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: head outside and told her what was going to happen, 148 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: and it did. Importantly, Calamari does not clarify the predictive 149 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: hinge here, right, and this is a deep deja vous 150 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: in a way. And it was only years later, says Calabari, 151 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: as I was telling a friend about this that had 152 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: dawned on me. Why I was speaking nonsense during that 153 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: part of the dream. It was the part where I 154 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: started telling my mom about the dream from the previous night. 155 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 4: I guess, says Calamari. My adolescent brain, when I was 156 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 4: about thirteen or fourteen, wasn't prepared for that. And then 157 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: Calamari provides us some very kind words but also an 158 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: impetus for investigation. Yes, we need to know what the 159 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: predictive thing was. 160 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: Was it significant? 161 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: Was it something small like a robin's gonna land on 162 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: that branch right now? Was it a dog's gonna get 163 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: hit by a car out here? 164 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: You know? 165 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: Like, what was the thing? 166 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: What was the thing? And we need to know what 167 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: the thing was, especially because in our opening statement here Calamari, 168 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: we say the dreams that come true have strong emotional connection, 169 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: right or resonance, and that's something that's something fascinating. We 170 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: thought this was an especially great correspondence because of that 171 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: nature of smelling a thing, right, And it's pretty clear 172 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: I would say that Matt Dylan and I strongly suspect 173 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: and are asking if maybe the smell that was happening 174 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: in the real world informed your cognition or your virtual reality. 175 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: But to know that, we have to know exactly what 176 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: you were asking about. Dude, Is it something small that changes? 177 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 4: Is this the We're not going to date you too hard, 178 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 4: but you're thirteen fourteen? Did you walk out and learn 179 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: a significant historical event at the time you know? 180 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, what I want to know is was your 181 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: mom cooking the morning that you were having that dream? 182 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: Right? That's exactly the question. 183 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: Because many of our dreams, at least our most vivid ones, 184 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: occur right before waking, like those intense dreams, the dream 185 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: state that you get into where you wake up and 186 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: you remember stuff that's right before you wake up. And 187 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: if right before you wake up you smell bacon or 188 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: something and you're smelling it while you're asleep. 189 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: And you're hearing the sounds of cooking, perhaps these things 190 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: can all inform these experience. Please check out an episode 191 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: that we did quite recently on the concept of dream incubation, 192 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: targeted manipulation of the dream state. Full disclosure. We just 193 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: recorded that one. We have not heard it yet. Maybe 194 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: you have. In another play of existence. 195 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: Dude, Well, you know, I actually want to ben. Could 196 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: we jump to the phone lines in this? 197 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, let's do it. Let's do one here. 198 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: Let's do one because it reminds me of something a 199 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: caller said recently. Let's jump to Can't Sleep. 200 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, this is can't Sleep. I love listening to 201 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: you guys. I know a while back, I hope I'm 202 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: not too late. You guys were talking about calling in 203 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: talk about dreams, and I had a really crazy experience. 204 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: So I always listen to a podcast when I go 205 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: to sleep. Most of the time it's your guys' podcast, 206 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 5: unless I've already listened to it. But I woke up 207 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 5: the next day and I had the craziest, craziest dream. 208 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 5: And then I've always been interested in dreams, so I 209 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 5: was looking at like interpreting on I have this one 210 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: dream interpreting apps that seems to be like right on 211 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: point every time about what things mean. But on this 212 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 5: particular occasion, everything I wrote in the dream ap like it. 213 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: Nothing really came up that triggered anything that was going on, 214 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 5: So I thought it was just strange what I was 215 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 5: dreaming about. Then I listened to this podcast about dreams 216 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 5: I forget where when, And the guy was saying this 217 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 5: psychology was saying, like, dreams are basically when you're asleep, 218 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 5: if your mind, if your brain and your ears ear 219 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,359 Speaker 5: noises or hear someone talking, it tries to best interpret 220 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 5: what it's hearing and putting it into like visual form, 221 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 5: like almost like a read this, you know, like it. 222 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: It sends you images based on whatever you're hearing while 223 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 5: you're asleep, because your brain's trying to tell you. So 224 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 5: I thought that was really interesting. And then the next 225 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 5: night I was listening to a podcast which was the 226 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: next one on my list after the one that I 227 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 5: had gone to bed listening to earlier the day before, 228 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 5: and they were talking about like a golf course and 229 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 5: Thailand and how they had to clear a bunch of 230 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: trees and people were upset, and I had dreamt about 231 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 5: driving a golf cart on the branches of trees, which 232 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 5: was really really crazy because the guy had said that 233 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 5: when you're asleep and you're hearing someone talking, that it 234 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 5: will try to speak to you via images in your 235 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: head and your dreams, right, And so that was it, 236 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: and I was just blown away. So I think sometimes 237 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: dreams are based on what we're feeling. But a lot 238 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 5: of times, like if you fall asleep with the TV 239 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: on or you're listening to a podcast, your brain is 240 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: actually made turning those words you're hearing into images in 241 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 5: your head. It's just it just blew my mind. So anyways, 242 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: love your guys, so have a good one. 243 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: There we go, agreed, right, It reminds me of what 244 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: Klamari's saying, but in this case, in Calamari's bacon, Oh 245 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: so much food, I'm hungry. But in this case, it's 246 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: any sounds, any sensory input. Basically, your brain is specifically 247 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: turning that into visual imagery, mostly visual imagery, because that's 248 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: the that's at least the method of internal communication that's going. 249 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: On, and it's racing through pre established synaptic roots. That's 250 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: that's an important part of the translation exercise. We can't 251 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: thank you enough for taking the time to contact this man, 252 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: because this is speaking directly to some stuff that we 253 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: were exploring together over the years and in previous evenings. 254 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: I would say another way to think about it, or 255 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: the dovetail on this would be to consider it a 256 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: matter of translation, yes, but perhaps more importantly, a matter 257 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: of contextualization. Within the pre existing sleep pattern or dream. 258 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: I remember back when I used to drink soda. That's right, 259 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: I was wild and I stopped drinking soda. I had 260 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: a similar invasive sort of stimuli clearly affecting me. It 261 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: was very like native advertising. I was fighting another ancient vampire. 262 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: And then midway through, like the climactic third act you know, 263 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: of all the daring do and John wickery of fighting 264 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: the enemy, paused and said, okay, time out, and then 265 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: held up a can of Coca Cola classic, cracked it open, 266 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: drank it with that typical you know, we all know 267 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: the coke sound like I'm trying to do all right? 268 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 4: Hey hm dr pepper gross and no hesitation. Uh so 269 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: the uh so. Anyway, the dream progressed or whatever version 270 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: of reality I was in, and I later woke it 271 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: was just after sunset and a person in the same 272 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: area had literally opened up a can of something, and 273 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: that must have been the external stimuli added to the 274 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: previous context of existence that had triggered that. This does 275 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: not mean these are predictive. It doesn't mean they're violating 276 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: linear time. But already, just in the beginning of this 277 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: listener mail, we see that there are a lot of 278 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: baffling things at play, some of which science has yet 279 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: to explain. I'm a crackhead for soda. Man will drink soda. 280 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 3: Every once in a while, I'll let myself have a 281 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: cheer wine or something as like a or one of 282 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: those bottled Coca colas from. 283 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 4: Mexico, the class ones pine sugar. 284 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 285 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: Oh, or if I'm feeling really squirrely, Yeah, a pepsi. 286 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: I think it's called zero now, I don't know. Pepsi 287 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: zero sugar cherry. 288 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 4: Pepsi zero sugar cherry. Something like that sounds like an 289 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: operation we would be conducting if we were doing podcasts. 290 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, dang, what's my aspertained intake like this week? 291 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: I guess I could have one fast forward to Dylan say, uh, 292 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: Senator again, I could either confirm nor to die any 293 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: knowledge of what you call pepsi zero sugar cherry. Yeah. Sorry, 294 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. 295 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: It's something like that. Oh wait, no, dude, I'm told 296 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: I must. I must be a soda fiend. Still, I 297 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: didn't even realize I was. 298 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: What's up? 299 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: My son? 300 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: If he does something extraordinary, his reward that he wants 301 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: is an IBC root beer that's what he wants. Glass 302 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: bottled IBC root beer. 303 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: Kid likes root beer. I always said he had a 304 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 4: sophisticated taste. That's pretty advanced ballad, actually, isn't it. 305 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's delicious. 306 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, root beer is a dumb name for a thing 307 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: that's not that bad. 308 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: Sasparilla. 309 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: Sasparilla sounds better. It's got a better mouthfeel, you know, 310 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: and shout out to our British friends. Barley water is 311 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: also not near as it satnds. 312 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: Barley tea just to go off the barley Yeah is delicious. 313 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. 314 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: Man. 315 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: Barley is underrated, just like the root of Bega. We're 316 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: going to pause for a word from our sponsors. Will 317 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 4: return with more messages from you. We have returned. We're 318 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: going to hear from Tellincore. Tellancore, you said the following, Hey, guys, 319 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: you can call me Tellincore Phil. Free to use that 320 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: name and my message on the air if you wish. 321 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: That's how you do it. The cool nickname. We'll use 322 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: your real name too if you want. No judgment, but 323 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: just let us know. And you say telencor In the 324 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: most recent Strange news program, you asked for people to 325 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 4: send in predictive dream experiences. Hopefully you aren't regretting it. 326 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: We don't, and you're not drowning in responses already. We are. 327 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: But I wanted to share one that I had. Pretty mundane, 328 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: but it's always stuck with me. Back in the year 329 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: two thousand, I was in the midst of reading Robert 330 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: Jordan's Wheel of Time series and was eagerly awaiting the 331 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: soon to be released Winter's Heart. I was right there 332 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 4: with you, man. A few weeks before the book was released, 333 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: I had a dream that I had picked up a 334 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 4: copy of the book, and upon waking, I had a 335 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: very clear memory of exactly what the cover of the 336 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 4: book looked like. When I went to pick up this 337 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: book in real life to Miami, the cover art was 338 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: exactly as I had pictured it in the dream. Okay, 339 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: so first question, did you see the cover art you know, 340 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: liminally or subliminally and forget or was something else at play? 341 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: Mmmm? 342 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: Now this is a tough one for me because we're 343 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: talking about the year two thousand. 344 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so AOL was a thing. 345 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: Sure, you could get on the old netscapes and a 346 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: couple of different ways to access the internet. Maybe there 347 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 3: was a really low res version of this art online somewhere. 348 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, on a bulletin board, on some forum, et cetera. 349 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: But maybe. 350 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 3: But and by the way, did it come out in 351 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: two thousand or did it come out in like a 352 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: couple of years later, like two thousand and three, because 353 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: that changes things. Three years of the Internet changes things. 354 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, even back then. And with that mind, Tellencore, 355 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: you continued to your point, Matt, and you say this 356 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: was before the Internet made it almost impossible to avoid 357 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: spoilers for such things. So, anticipating our question, Tellencore says, 358 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: I don't believe I had somehow seen a picture of 359 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 4: it before release and then dreamed of it. For that reason, 360 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 4: Like I said, it's pretty trivial, but it has stayed 361 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: with me. I wish I could have done the same 362 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: for lotto numbers at some point, but no luck so far. 363 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: Which also makes me think, what if you have a 364 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: dream about lottery numbers? But the probabilities are so nuanced 365 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: that by observing that sequence of numbers, even in a dream, 366 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: you alter the reality of the waking world. Dude, dude, 367 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: I mean no, but but it's fun to think about. 368 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: So let's talk about this cover really quickly that if 369 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: there was no spoiler? How do you imagine how many characters? 370 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: Is this? One? 371 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: Two, three, four, five characters and three horses on a 372 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: cover like this? 373 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: Is that? 374 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 3: I don't I haven't read the Wheel of Time series? 375 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: Is this generally what the covers look like? Are they 376 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: all the characters like this? 377 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: They're varying characters on the cover, So on the cover 378 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: of different installments of the series, it is generally going 379 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: to be that same art style. Okay, for the original 380 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: publications what we see Oh gosh, I don't want to 381 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: get too into detail here, but not all of these 382 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: are the main characters there. There are many characters in 383 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: the Wheel of Time series. But yeah, this is this 384 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: is apropos to the previous books in the series. This 385 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: is the ninth book of the Wheel of Time. And 386 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 4: this looks like if you didn't have the language on 387 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: there that says Winter's Heart book nine, Wheel of Time, 388 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 4: author names stuff like that, then it might look like 389 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: a somewhat generic or unidentifiable scene from a fantasy novel. 390 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: Hmm. 391 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: And look, the art is great, by the way, We're 392 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: not when we say generic, we just mean without the language, 393 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 4: you might be able to confuse this with other paintings 394 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: of interesting people on a snowy mountaintop. 395 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed. I again, I don't know the story, so 396 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: I have no idea who these folks are or what 397 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: they're doing. But I wouldn't I can't imagine that being 398 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 3: just a generic image, you know that you conjured. If 399 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: Telenkor dreamed that and then that's what it was and 400 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: he hadn't seen it, that would be pretty cool. 401 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: It's fascinating. I think we're asking the right question too, 402 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: about the prevalence of the internet or online discourse at 403 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: that moment. And honestly, you know, I would pause it 404 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: that if people think we got to be careful. We 405 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: don't want to prime folks too much back, but I 406 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: will pause it that anyone listening, if you think about 407 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: it long enough, you will remember or feel that you 408 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: remember a dream you cannot explain that is in some 409 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: way seems in retrospect predictive or clairvoyant, or conveyed to 410 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: you somehow information that you don't believe you would have 411 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: acquired otherwise. Hmm, I don't know, do you think so? 412 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: I feel like also that's putting our thumb on the 413 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: scale just a little bit. Because when you ask people 414 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: to think about a specific thing that relates to them, 415 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: depending on how you deploy the language, they're going to 416 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: find something. 417 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: You know, Oh for sure, let me talking about that. 418 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: That's why all those horoscopes work and those dream interpreters 419 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: and all. 420 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 2: That other stuff. 421 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: No, they're right about the root of Vegas. 422 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: We are that part of handsome husbands all around. 423 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 3: So let's jump quickly because this also relates to a 424 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 3: caller Geez called in and I think this goes right 425 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: to what we're talking about here with Tellencore. 426 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, this is Jeeves, a long time listener. What 427 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 6: I wanted to talk about is dreams that I have 428 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 6: had in the past that were just innocent dreams or 429 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 6: you know, premonitions or imaginations, the moments of imagination of 430 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 6: me as a child later on, things that were not 431 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 6: necessarily pivotal to my existence, but there's a lot of 432 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 6: energy and memory around those moments, and they were moments 433 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 6: that I had that energy from before I had those 434 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 6: moments as a memory, if that makes sense. There's specifically 435 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 6: a time when I was like four or five years old. 436 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 6: I imagine myself working at a bar and a black shirt, 437 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 6: and around the time that I worked at that far, 438 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 6: I did have a black shirt and I did work 439 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: at a bar that was very similar to the vision 440 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 6: that I had when I was a child, which I 441 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 6: don't necessarily think it was a vision. Again, I can't remember. 442 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 6: It goes to me dreaming, and this is all based 443 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 6: on memories, but you know, take it for what it is. However, 444 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 6: there have been multiple instances of that where throughout my 445 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 6: childhood I would have had a memory or a dream 446 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 6: or a thought that's similar to a deja boo moment, 447 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: where later on in my life I would actualize these 448 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 6: moments and then kind of like point to myself like, oh, 449 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: I manifested them, or something of that regard. However, there 450 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 6: is also recently that study that kind of proves that 451 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 6: the electrons that exist in every moment in time have 452 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 6: been in every moment in time, and with the way 453 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 6: that the human mind works and with the way that 454 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 6: information is processed and transferred and how we're all kind 455 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 6: of like acting as one large motion picture all at once. 456 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 6: You know, if you take the human consciousness out of 457 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 6: observing the human consciousness, then you do kind of get this, 458 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 6: just like all encompassing motion picture that is all taking 459 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 6: place within itself almost instantaneously, because again, if you don't 460 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: have a human consciousness, you're unable to. 461 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 5: Observe that time. 462 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 6: But those are just some you know, things to think about. 463 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 6: I'm running up on my time, so I'm gonna go 464 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: ahead and just say that I love your guys to 465 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 6: show and I hope that you guys keep up the 466 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 6: good work. 467 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: Che's out, Che's out, Che's out. As our we collect catchphrases, man, 468 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 4: and you just nailed it. 469 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: Cheese out, munster audi uh. Fantastic stuff here. 470 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: This concept of taking human consciousness out of observing consciousness. 471 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: Goes back to the old days. 472 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: Spend with the Grant Morrison stuff. The snake that is existence, 473 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: right like if you could have if you can imagine 474 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: a human being in every place they have ever been, 475 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: like every physical place on the planet they've ever been, 476 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: and then just at that as one snake that goes 477 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: all the way from the beginning until death. 478 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: Did you ever read the graphic novels based on HP 479 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: Lovecraft's work Providence. Also, Nameless is another good win for this, 480 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: and I know you love Nameless. Nameless is an age 481 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: appropriate Buddy, comedy in space for everyone. No, buy it 482 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: for children. 483 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: Stop. It looks like it would be It looks like 484 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: it on the front. 485 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 4: But I'm bringing these two tangentially related works of hopefully 486 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: fiction to bear here because that they both explore the 487 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: concept of the trappings of linear experience of time. 488 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know that specific study that Jesus 489 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: referring to about the electrons that exist in every moment 490 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: and time have existed in every moment. 491 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: I don't know or understand that necessarily. 492 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: That's that's above my head, at least in this moment 493 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: as we're discussing everything, I get everything everywhere, all at once. 494 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: Concept. 495 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, it's there. It's part of it goes into 496 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: the mystery around their designated sort of orbital roots, Like 497 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: if every electron is a mailman or a planet, why 498 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: do they also seem to exist outside of where they're 499 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: predicted to be. Do check out our episode recently published 500 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: on Whether or Not We Can Break Physics, which gets 501 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: into a little bit of this. 502 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: Yep, just makes you feel unsettled in my experience, But. 503 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. 504 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: What was the other thing we were talking about recently 505 00:30:53,960 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: that humans with our consciousness decode information one second per second, yes, 506 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: and then time though, however, can function very differently. 507 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: Outside of our observation of. 508 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: It, so that that that concept again hurts my brain 509 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: a bit. But I can understand that because our again, 510 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: our processing power is a one second per second. 511 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: Unit top proven speed so far. 512 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: But if you imagine, you know, the way you can 513 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: capture light at incredible broken down speeds with certain like 514 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: phantom cameras and other cameras like that, you can truly 515 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: see stuff moving at a whole different speed if it 516 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: were interpreted that way. 517 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: It's fascinating. It's also a question of that that outside perspective, right, 518 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: Please don't, please don't confuse what we're saying as a 519 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: beat by beat exploration of ego death, which is another 520 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: philosophical concept. Right. But the idea then is that let's 521 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: expand it a little further. A being from a different 522 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 4: set of dimensions, or with different sensory equipment to experience 523 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 4: the universe in a different manner. It may look at 524 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: human beings in a very bizarre way. You know, depending 525 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: upon how you perceive time, people might just look like 526 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 4: a series of segmented worm moments of movement and age 527 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: that all exist as their own sort of little individual 528 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: spaghetti string. Yeah yeah, I'm fun at parties. 529 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: Spaghetti guys, double spaghetti guys over. 530 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: There, Welcome to ultimate reality. Everyone is a creepy fun 531 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 4: doodle or what are those guys called inflatable guys? 532 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: Car stores used car air dancer boys. 533 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: There, we go, used car air dancer boys. And also 534 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 4: it also reminds us of maybe one of the best 535 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 4: ways to put the science into spirituality. Here is the 536 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 4: Old the old work by the legendary David Foster Wallace. 537 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing, but it's an old fish in the ocean 538 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: goes and passes by these other two fish who are younger, 539 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: and the old fish says, hey, boys, how's the water? 540 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 4: And the two young fish are like whatever, old man, 541 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: And they swim around for a little bit, and then 542 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 4: one of them looks at the other one and says, 543 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: what the is water? 544 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 545 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: Yea, So maybe that's time freak humans. 546 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, our sensory organs developed in this space 547 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: right right at this speed. And as you're saying, if 548 00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: it's extra dimensional, especially then we would be we be 549 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 3: very funky, funky looking and acting and we'd seem really slow. 550 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: I bet I stay funky. That's my dry cleaner. Stay funky, Ben, 551 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 4: stay funky, you too, Dylan. 552 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: Stay funky everyone. We'll be right back after another word 553 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: from our sponsors. 554 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 4: And we have returned. Before we get into our final 555 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 4: piece of correspondence from our fellow listeners this evening, we 556 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: we thought it would be appropriate to me don't do 557 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: this often, but to maybe maybe share vivid or inexplicable 558 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: dreams that we have personally encountered. Uh. The We're not 559 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: saying that anyone can tell the future. That has not 560 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 4: been proven yet, good luck DARPA, but we are we 561 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 4: are hoping to commune indicate that a lot of people 562 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: have experienced things they cannot explain. So who do we 563 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 4: put on the spot first? Dylan inny weird dreams? Or 564 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 4: do you want to tell us about a dream that 565 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 4: terrified you, a dream that terrified me, or a dream 566 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: that predicted the future? We're giving you options. 567 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 7: Man, how many of that predicted the future? I just 568 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 7: we were talking off air about when I was playing 569 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 7: the Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild when it 570 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 7: came out a few years ago, that there's these creatures 571 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 7: called lionels that look like centaurs and lions put together. 572 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 7: They're very large, and they move really quickly in the game, 573 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 7: and they're like one of the bigger battles. And I 574 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 7: would play it for hours on end, and I started 575 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 7: slipping into my dreams and giving me nightmares where I 576 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 7: was having to fight a lionel and I would never win. 577 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 6: No. 578 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 4: Oh, dude, that's exactly you know what. That's perfect because 579 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: we talked earlier too, in multiple episodes about how people 580 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 4: can be primed by that kind of repetitive stimulus or stimuli. 581 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 4: That's why you will dream of Tetris inevitably if you 582 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 4: play it too often. I think we all did that. 583 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 4: And then also, depending on whether or not your waking 584 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 4: mind is cognizant of the things that have been pushed 585 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 4: into your brain, you may feel like you are predicting 586 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 4: the future. You know what I mean. I hope you 587 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 4: don't run into a lionel. We hope you don't. 588 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 2: I hope that's not predictive. 589 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's such a good news. Bad news. Good news, 590 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 4: you've discovered an entirely new life form. Bad news. 591 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 2: They're out to get you. 592 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're out to get you. That's funny. That's like 593 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: bringing back what is it, resurrecting the mammoth. I would 594 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 4: love a headline that comes out in you know, Popsy 595 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 4: or TMZ or something says, good news, We've resurrected mammoths. 596 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 4: Bad news. They're like just the worst nineteen eighties version 597 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 4: of a rude person, you know what I mean, Like mammoths, 598 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: steel skateboards, a vape or whatever. Yeah, no, it's the eighties. 599 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 4: They would be smoking cigarettes, definitely, parliaments, okay, yeah. Predictive dream. 600 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 4: You got a dream you can't explain? 601 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I just have weird dreams. Sorry, that's 602 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: all I got. 603 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: No worries. One Briefly, this is in a I don't 604 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 4: want to be too specific, but this is an a 605 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: category that may be disrestling common to a lot of 606 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: us listening along tonight. A dream that doesn't necessarily tell 607 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 4: you to do a thing, but tells you to avoid 608 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: a thing. This is not uncommon in parts of my family. 609 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: There are multiple anecdotes. I don't have a bunch of 610 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 4: you know, I have much other than anecdotal evidence for this, 611 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: but I have at several junctures I have received a 612 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 4: dream that tells me, you know, not to hop on 613 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 4: a bus right, or not to get in the car 614 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 4: and go in this place right, and then the next 615 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: day something terrible has occurred. This has happened to me 616 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 4: more than once. Obviously, if we're exercising critical thought, we 617 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 4: could say you're just noticing the times it appears to 618 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: have worked. You're not noticing all the times you said, oh, 619 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 4: I had a bad dream, I'm gonna call him sick, 620 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: and then Thursday was fine, you know what I mean? 621 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: So I haven't had that before. 622 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: That sounds really My mom sometimes will call me and 623 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 3: tell me about a terrible dream she had or something 624 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: and make sure I'm okay, and something weird will match up, 625 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 3: but never, you know, never enough to be significant, I would. 626 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: Say, right, And then it goes back to the way 627 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 4: we experience time. So enough about us. We do want 628 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 4: to hear about these experiences, and if you are, especially 629 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: if you are skeptical and find yourself at a loss 630 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 4: to explain you know that dodged car accident or plane crash, 631 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: we want to hear from you. We're going to end 632 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 4: this evening with a word from our pal Gravy danger 633 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 4: Field gravy dangerfield. You say the following, I just listened 634 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 4: to the Strange News segment where you asked for experiences 635 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 4: with prophetic dreams and astral projection. I've never done anything 636 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 4: like astral projection intentionally, but I've had a couple of 637 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 4: dreams in my life that have completely up and died 638 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 4: my understanding of reality, where I've been able to verify 639 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: the dream with another person and get the closest thing 640 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 4: I could expect to objective proof. 641 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 3: The first happened when I was about twenty years old 642 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 3: in college. I was having lucid dreams several nights a 643 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: week at that point, so I was familiar with the experience. 644 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: One night, I was sleeping next to a new girlfriend 645 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: I'd be yeah, I'd been seeing for a few months, 646 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 3: having a lucid dream where I was flying around my 647 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: go to activity and lucid dreams perfect activity. Lucid dreams, 648 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 3: as you may know, have varying degrees of control, and 649 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 3: in this particular dream, I was totally in charge, which 650 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: is why it startled me. When my girlfriend, let's call 651 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 3: her m suddenly appeared. I asked her what she was 652 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 3: doing here, to which she replied, what do you mean 653 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 3: I'm dreaming. 654 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 4: No, you're not. This is my dream, I said, no, 655 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: it's mine. After a bit of back and forth and 656 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 4: some other things, I woke up and. 657 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait what other things? 658 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh? You know other things? Man? 659 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,959 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, all right, let's be cool. 660 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: So you wake up, Gravy, and you look at M 661 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 4: beside you, and Gravy say. A second later, she opened 662 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: her eyes, then quickly squeezed them shut, pretending to be asleep. Still. 663 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 4: I told her I knew she was awake, and asked 664 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 4: why she was acting funny, and she tried to shake 665 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 4: it off as I just had a weird dream. Long 666 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 4: story short. When I got the details out of her 667 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 4: about that weird dream, it perfectly matched mine except for 668 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: her perspective. All of the details were the same for 669 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 4: both of us, including things like that I glowed with 670 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 4: a green aura and that she had an orange aura. 671 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 4: Our surroundings, our dialogue, everything matched up. 672 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: Whoa, and here's the turn. The relationship lasted a few years. 673 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: Well that's nice, but nothing like that ever happened again, 674 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 3: at least not with her. I should mention that I 675 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 3: was sober and clear of mind for both of these experiences, 676 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 3: though I have otherwise dabbled quite a bit with various 677 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 3: mind altering techniques, some of which the state did not 678 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: approve of. 679 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 4: The state being the government at the time, not the 680 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 4: legendary MTV comedy Disgustus. Although that both things might be true, 681 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: we don't. 682 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 3: Get the state did not approve of and threw me 683 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: in a cage overr oh, that's not great. During one 684 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: such incarceration, I had a dream in which I floated 685 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 3: up out of my body, through the wall of the 686 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 3: jail and across the county to a separate jail, where 687 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: I found an estranged friend of mine, and we let 688 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: each other know that we were okay, but we had 689 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 3: both been locked up. 690 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 4: Now. The only indication I had that my friend was 691 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 4: at this jail was this dream. I shrugged and sent 692 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 4: off a letter addressed to her there anyway. The reply 693 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 4: came about a week later that she had had a 694 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 4: really weird, really vivid dream the other night that I 695 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 4: came to visit her and tell her what happened. 696 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 697 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love dream communication as a concept. 698 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 4: In the fifteen or so years since the second dream, 699 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 4: says Gravy, it's all the same boring dreams we all 700 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 4: have of losing teeth, fighting lionel and punching through quicksand 701 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 4: but those two experiences still blow my mind to think about. 702 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 4: And I'm as lost as I was the day they 703 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 4: happened as far as explaining wtf it was that we 704 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 4: experience anyway, Stay safe out there, Gobble gobble is the 705 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 4: ending line. 706 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: Hmmm, turkey, what do you mean call us turkeys? Gravy? 707 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 4: Gravy dangerfield. 708 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 2: Uh, get no respect over. 709 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 4: This is exactly what we're asking about now, honestly, gravy. 710 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 4: You may be surprised to learn that it's not uncommon 711 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 4: for people who report experiencing these kind of dreams to 712 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 4: describe auras. And I think it speaks to our earlier 713 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 4: conversation regarding the idea of translating external stimuli to a 714 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 4: largely visual medium in the brain. So maybe what might 715 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 4: be experienced as touch, taste, smell, even appropriate reception or something, 716 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 4: it gets translated as a color or energy around a person. 717 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 4: Pretty cool, I guess we also. Did you see the 718 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 4: news that people appear to have a low key glow 719 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 4: that disappears upon death. 720 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 2: I did, like actual aura? 721 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we know people do have actual auras. Living 722 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 4: things do have weak emissions of different types of energy. 723 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 4: You just can't usually see it with your factory set 724 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,959 Speaker 4: of eyes if you're human. 725 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: So we need to get aura glasses going on. 726 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 4: We need to get aura glasses going on. They need 727 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 4: to be tied to the right sleep technology. Yeah, the 728 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 4: first thing we need to do is monetize the heck 729 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 4: out of it. 730 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: Yes, take them to the club, but also to the bedroom. 731 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's perfect Aura plus dreams equals. 732 00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 2: When you hear that. 733 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 4: And ask about our new wet dlc. 734 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: H, don't, don't ask about it becomes factory standard. 735 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 4: I'm sure it does. 736 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 3: Ben can tell you a quick dream I had last 737 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: year this exact same time, according to my dream journal. Okay, ready, 738 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: it's real quick, real quick, not prophetic unless it is. Okay, 739 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 3: let me preface this by saying this is my dream journal, 740 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 3: like directly, so I may have gotten things wrong or weird, 741 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 3: but here goes et species resembling and functioning similarly to octopus, 742 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 3: are trans medium, as are exoskeletons. Suits have chromatophor functionality, 743 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 3: can mimic surroundings automatically. Base located under sea mothership returning 744 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 3: several million years. There are observations ape genome unfit for advancement, 745 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: as was reptilian insect variant, most successful experiment to be 746 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 3: reset another several million yearsocus on new genome. Great, yeah, cool, 747 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 3: that's it. 748 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 4: I think it's great. I feel like that we could 749 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 4: write that out to a story if you wish. 750 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 6: So. 751 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 4: I love the implication of the larger world at play, 752 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 4: the iterative sort of Sisyphian pursuit of higher life and 753 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 4: better understanding of the universe. And it reminds me too 754 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 4: of ooh, it's creepy out. You and I are interested 755 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 4: in so many of the same things. But I would love, 756 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 4: I would love to hear more dreams like that. We 757 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 4: have made a decision on the show that we're going 758 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 4: to embrace other people's dreams. That's what you want to 759 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 4: hear about them. 760 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: That's right. 761 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 3: So thank you so much, everybody, Gravy Danger telling the 762 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: Calamari can's sleep. 763 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 4: Geez, she's out, Gee's out. Folks, thank you so much 764 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 4: for tuning in. Thanks, of course, to our life long 765 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 4: suffering legendary producers Dylan the Tennessee, pal Fagan and Andrew 766 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 4: Treforce Howard. We want to hear from you. We want 767 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 4: to hear your thoughts skeptical, spiritual, metaphysical, and beyond on 768 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 4: the nature of dreams. We're going through a dream phase 769 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 4: right now, is what a lot of religious teachers would say. 770 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 4: Nice little plots to us. At the end, you can 771 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 4: find us online conspiracy stuff. Conspiracy stuff shows some derivation 772 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 4: thereof anywhere you sip your social needs. You can also 773 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 4: drop us a line at our email address, give us 774 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 4: a call on the telephone, or you know, just say 775 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 4: the right code word in your dreams. 776 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 2: A code word like one eight three three std WYTK. 777 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: What does it mean. 778 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 3: It's a voicemail system. When you call that number, you're 779 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: gonna hear some stuff you might recognize. Then you're gonna 780 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 3: hear a beep, and then you get three minutes. Say 781 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 3: whatever you'd like. When you conclude, make sure that in 782 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 3: that message you gave yourself a cool nickname and you 783 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 3: said whether or not we can use your name and 784 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 3: message on the air. If you want to contact us 785 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: in a different way, maybe with your hands, maybe with 786 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 3: talk to text, why don't you send us an email. 787 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 2: We are the. 788 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 4: Entities that read each piece of correspondence we receive, be 789 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 4: well aware yet out afraid. Sometimes the void writes back, 790 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 4: were you a person dreaming you were a butterfly, or 791 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 4: are you a butterfly dreaming you are a man? Shout 792 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 4: out to the butterfly's dream, Shout out to Einstein's Dreams 793 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 4: by the legendary professor Alt Lyttman, and shout out to 794 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 4: the book recommendations you're going to share with your fellow listeners. 795 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 4: We cannot wait to hear from you awake, asleep, hypnogogic, 796 00:48:48,040 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 4: or somewhere in between. Conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. 797 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 3: Stuff they Don't want you to Know is a production 798 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 799 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.