WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Giant Opportunity? 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:06.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:19.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.720 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.080 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:32.440 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:38.760 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.720 It is Friday, October ninth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.560 number forty one. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.280 We've got so much to talk about today. We've got 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.400 a little bit of news here heading into the show, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.480 so we're gonna spend quite a bit of time talking 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.160 about Tyren Smith and what that means for the rest 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.520 of this team for the rest of this season. We'll 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.560 also get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Giants, will 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.959 talk a little bit about the offense versus Giants defense, 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:09.760 and also Cowboys defense versus the Giants offense, and then 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.800 we'll get to predictions. See how these guys think the 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.800 game will play out this Sunday at three thirty at 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.160 at and T Stadium. We got to start though with 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.680 Tyren Smith during his press conference this morning. Mike McCarthy 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.880 made it clear, I guess made the announcement that it 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.560 is now official that Tyren Smith will have surgery on 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.120 his neck and that means he will be lost for 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.000 the season. That now makes two offensive linemen Cowboys were 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.240 expecting to have two of their better offensive linement they 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.520 were expecting to have that are now out for the year. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.880 When you include Lyle Collins, if you want to go 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.800 back to last year, three starters that are now no 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.800 longer going to be on this team for the rest 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.920 or at least playing for this team for the rest 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.640 of the year, when you throw in Travis Frederick. That 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.919 all being said, I want to get reactions to this news. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.040 Let's start first with Unick. I hope he's okay. You know, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.600 I hope he's okay for not just not playing. But 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:00.520 you know, this is he's at a point his career 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.040 and that's a that's an injury that you don't want 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.280 to mess around with. Of course, he's done everything that 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.920 one individual can do. They haven't been to the Super Bowl, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.080 of course, but he's done as great as you know, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:16.440 He's had a phenomenal career. I'm not saying he's done. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.360 I hope he's okay. I hope this is just a 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.600 setback for this year to get back and get ready 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.680 to go. Yes, they're gonna miss him, and let them 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.919 talk about, you know how much he's gonna be missed. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.799 But I just for his sake, man, I hope, I 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.200 hope he comebacks. Ope he can come back next year 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.600 and this will be he'll be better for this surgery. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:38.240 Amber Well, you know it's something serious when he gets 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.880 to the point where they decide to get him to 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.080 get surgery, because a guy like Tyrn, I mean, he's 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.960 one of the toughest players I've ever seen in the 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.800 time that I've been following football. I mean, it's amazing 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.359 the things that he's been able to endure, endure and 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.880 then go through. So I know that it must be 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.040 pretty bad that to the point that it's gonna end 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.720 the rest of the season for him being submitted to 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.640 a surgery. But like Nick said, I do hope that 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.800 it's not something that it's completely just career ending. I 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.639 know that this is something that Tyrant has been dealing with, 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.080 not just the next but just his back in general. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:22.400 He's been dealing with for several years. So hopefully it's 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.400 he's able to make it through and come back next 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:30.960 year better Dave. In a weird way, I'm kind of relieved, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.880 and I don't I mean, obviously it sucks that Tyrn 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.680 can't play. It's going to be a challenge. You know, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.720 you got what two starts out of him, so you 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.160 got to make your way through fourteen games without one 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.320 of the best two or three left tackles in football. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.400 But it's kind of a relief just that you know, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.080 hopefully he feels better, Hopefully he can get this taken 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.400 care of and play a few more years where he's 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:59.000 relatively healthy, because this guy has just been in pain 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.360 for like five years, and you know, we're in the 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.320 locker room, we're around the team like, I don't you know. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.720 It's Romo esque the way that this guy has just 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:12.000 dealt with nagging problems and it's been five years at 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.800 this point. So I'm relieved that he's gonna hopefully get 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:20.120 it taken care of the lineup. But in a weird way, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.479 it's kind of a relief on the Cowboys end that 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.120 you know you're not gonna wake up on Sunday and 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.680 be like, oh crap, it's flaring up on Tyron again, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.919 we're gonna have to downgrade him, and I you know, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.000 I'm not trying to talk trash on Tyront. I know 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.479 he works as hard as he can to get in 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.280 the lineup, but you just kind of have some certainty 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.000 that he is down and not part of this season anymore, 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.160 and you don't have that uncertainty. Let's talk about what 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.280 this means for this offense. We've looked at the Cowboys 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.279 now through four games, and I think we all agree 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.200 they are a high powered, very potent offense, and some 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.520 of that they've had to do without Tyrant. The one 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.480 thing I look at, though, is I think they've only 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.080 and you guys may have a different difference of opinion here, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.640 but I think they face two premier pass rushers so 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.279 far this year. Aaron Donald Miles Garrett. Both of them 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.960 had their way with this offensive line. They had moments 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:12.240 in those games when they created problems for this offensive line. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.920 As you get farther into this season, you're gonna face 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.080 some better defenses at times that pass rush. You can 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.240 think what you want to think about Washington's defense, but 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.400 their pass rush is outstanding. They got some real good 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.680 players up front that can rush the pass or you 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.240 look at a defense is like Baltimore, and I think 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.200 that they're gonna be some some challenges for this offense. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.960 How much do you guys think this changes how potent 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.760 this offense can be with now the loss of Tyren 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.760 Smith for the year, not just for a couple of games, 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.160 not just for a half, but for the entire season. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:48.240 Let's start first with you, Dave. I mean, they haven't 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.960 They've had Tyrn for half of these games, and in 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.080 the ones that they didn't have them, they still looked 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.400 plenty of potent to me, And I mean, of course 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.960 it's gonna be a problem. Of course, it's gonna suck. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.800 You know, they have played a couple of premier pass rushers, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.599 but they've also gotten a little bit lucky in the 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.240 sense that Seattle in Atlanta don't. They don't have that. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.000 The Giants aren't going to have that on that level 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.760 this weekend. But let's talk after that Washington game. They've 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.159 got about ninety five badass pass rushers, So yeah, there 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.719 there's gonna be There's gonna be some rough patches for sure, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.920 but um, Dave at least shown that they can still 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.719 put up yards and points without these guys in the lineup, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.440 So there's gonna be some moments that scare me and 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.040 should scare everybody, But I don't. I don't think it's 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.960 gonna be so bad that they're going to revert to 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.159 looking like, you know, like twenty eighteen prior to the 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.320 Cooper trade. I think they can still you know, be efficient. Amber, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.880 I agree, We've seen it happened. I mean, we've seen 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.760 a game where they had to play without tiring and 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.240 they've made it work. My only concern would be, just 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.000 let the off clean up your game, clean it off 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.880 from the beginning, to start moving the offense from the 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.400 beginning of the game, and not wait until something that 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.839 you mentioned Derek about a week ago. You know, the 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.120 question is like, Okay, are they playing better maybe because 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.920 the defense is starting to get tired a little bit 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.680 and kind of loosening it up during the game. So 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.200 you cannot let that happen. You need to find a 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.920 way to figure it out from the beginning of the game, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.760 first half of the game and get him moving because 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.600 it's not always gonna work out. As we've seen, it 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.760 doesn't matter how much they try to come back. It 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.320 doesn't necessarily mean that you're gonna walk out of that 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.200 game winning. But to go back to your question, we've 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.520 seen it happen, so I do think that they're capable 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.840 of making it work. Well. I think it's going to 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.080 be a problem in the run game. I mean just 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.560 because and then it has been a problem. You can 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.880 figure out a way to offset a pass rush and 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.120 by just throwing the ball quickly and get it out 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.400 of your hands and maybe help Chip and all that stuff. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.520 But when it comes to actually trying to run the 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.920 ball people, you know, we forget that about Tyron Smith, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.360 not forget, but I think his his athletic ability for 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.240 his size is something that we always talk about. But 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.520 he's got power too, of course, and he helps in 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.680 that run game. And I think that they're just gonna 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.080 miss that, you know, they're just like they miss lyall 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.240 Collins is power as well. So that's where and that 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.880 affects their balance. And we've talked about this before. And 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.840 you get down in the red zone you have sometimes 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.400 it's harder to run the ball in their short yardage. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.760 I think that's just they're going to continue to miss it. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.600 And she just says clean it up. That sounds good, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.400 but you're talking about players that are now inexperience and 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.080 their game isn't clean, you know, because they're young, they're 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.080 really they just got they just got here. Um, you know, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.200 it sounds like they're gonna I don't know who's gonna 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.840 start it this week, but it sounds like it could 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.760 be a guy that you know, it's bounced around on 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.280 practice squads that might be starting this week. Yeah, let's 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:52.920 before we get to that. I do want to talk 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.719 about where we think this this thing falls as far 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.040 as who's going to be playing at what position. But 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.280 I do want to get opinions from Dave and Amber 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.160 regarding which you just talked about, how much does this 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.319 affect the running game? Which do you think is more 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.760 affected by the loss of Tyren Smith for the season, 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:12.160 the past game or the run game? Amber, I think 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.480 definitely the running game. I mean, we've seen them being 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.920 able to get the passing game going, but as far 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.440 as the running game, Ezekiel Elia hasn't been able to 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.920 be as productive as he's been in previous years, and 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:29.160 obviously that's something that they are lacking in himself too. Obviously, 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.920 these errors where he gets the ball loose and all 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.400 that I think that's something that he can clean up himself. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.439 And then as far as the running game goes once 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.440 I truly believe that once they solidify the offensive line, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.599 and I know that there are some inexperienced guys are 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:50.120 just not the amount of experience as your previous starter 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:55.280 tackles that you had before. But sorry, I'm rambling a 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.440 little bit basically what I'm trying to say, once you 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.880 figure out and clean up the offensive line, solidify it, 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.920 I do think that eventually it's gonna take a couple 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.840 of weeks for Ezekiel Elio to be able to get 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.880 his running game back into place and be able to 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.960 be a little bit more productive than what we've seen 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.640 so far. Dave, No, it's actually it's a really good point. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.480 And I hadn't I hadn't considered it because I'm I 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.360 just want to ring wing it around all the time. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:25.600 So yeah, it's it's probably gonna not be great. You're 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.160 gonna miss that, but just throw the ball. Zeke's a 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.240 great pass protector, so that should help you out in 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.080 that regard. I mean, I have absolute faith that the 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.320 passing game can still can still be viable. I'll be 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.480 interested to see what the running game can get going 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.040 with so many moving parts, I would expect it to 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.080 not look amazing. You know, I just thought of this. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.560 You might actually might help your running game just from 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.400 the fact that you're going to help your tackle, whoever 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.079 it is. I mean, I think Blake Bell's gonna get 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.400 more snaps this week. You're gonna keep the tight ends 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.280 in more. And by doing that, you might see more 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.719 looks on your defensive front on the defense to run 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.240 the ball, you know, and by doing that, because then 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.480 you're gonna have better blockers in place to help. But 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.320 then you know, Dak might look out and go, we 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.680 should just change this into a draw or run here, 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.640 And so therefore you might see that because of the 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.599 first personnel they're forced to play to help. Yeah, that 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.280 could happen. The one part that I'm a little bit 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.560 concerned about when it comes to all of this is 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.960 I think the best thing that the Cowboys passing game 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.040 does is go down feel. That's the part that they 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.560 can create these really big plays and they can quickly 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.439 get back into a ball game that they fall behind 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.920 him because they have that ability to go down feel. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.839 If teams look at this and say, hey, they don't 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.880 have the time to be able to go downfield, or 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.640 if we got a good enough pass rush to what 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.680 we don't give them the time to go down feel. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.240 What you do is neutralize what the Cowboys do best 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.360 in their passing game, in my opinion, And if you 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.480 do that, that makes it tough on you on both sides, 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.280 because not only will you not be able to do 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.480 what you do best in the passing game, but teams 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.720 don't have to worry about the deep ball as much. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.920 That means they can bring that safety down. That means 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.600 they can stop the run. They got an extra guy 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.120 to stop the run. So I think all the way around, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.240 that's what I'll be playing. I'll be looking at, is 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.040 can the Cowboys keep that part of their off that's 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.800 still flowing. Can they still go down feel and utilize 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.560 a guy like Michael Gallop in those moments in games 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.840 when they they're gonna go down feel? And if they 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.480 can't do that consistently, I think that's gonna be one 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.280 of the lynch pins that could really really hurt this offensive. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.280 This offense. Let's let's talk a little bit about the 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.599 offensive line and how you think it will be constructed, 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.400 and I want to look at this from a couple 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:35.400 of different perspectives. Obviously, this morning on the radio and 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.080 one on five to out of three the fan here locally, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.000 Jerry mentioned something kind of hinting around at the possibility 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:45.600 of Zach Martin moving to tackle. Let's talk about, first 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.000 of all, what do you think the Cowboys will do? 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.360 Not necessarily what we what you want to see, what 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.400 do you think the Cowboys will do for this week 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.600 on the five positions on the offensive line. Let's start. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:57.719 Let's start first with you, Nick, since you're having so 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.760 much consternation over there. I mean, it's really tough. The 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.000 only thing I think you can just hang your hat 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.440 on it is to say that Tyler Beyotest will be 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.920 its center. Yeah, I mean, everything else is really up 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.040 in the air. I think we know, though, I mean 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.880 I would guess I'll take a stab at it. I mean, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.080 I think it's going to be Brandon Knight left left tackle, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.320 Connor left guard, Beyodi at center, Zach at right guard, 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.120 and then a right tackle. Let me get my coin 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:32.400 out and flip here Senat maybe because because Jerry mentioned 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.760 him on the radio, and I just think that they 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.320 do watch tape and they see Steele. I just can't 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.400 imagine Steel being the starter, but I think you will be. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:46.320 You think Still's gonna be the starter? Still Steel for now? Yeah, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.679 I mean I don't love it. I mean, you know 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.079 what I heard about Snat was like, man, he's a 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.120 really good basketball player. And I'm like, well, you know, 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.760 they're not playing the Mavericks this week. They're actually playing 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.640 you know, the Giants. I don't know what that helps you, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.640 but but athletic. I get a Partnell type athletic, you know, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.240 good quick feet and all that kind of stuff. Amber, 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:10.400 what do you think the five this weekend? I mean 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.080 I would agree with Nick and say the same thing 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.120 I don't obviously want to put I don't want to 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.360 put Steal out there. But as far as the other guys, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.760 you obviously the Cowboys are gonna know more than we do, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.080 but me personally, I don't. I can't speak much about 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.480 the other guys that they brought in because I haven't 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.560 seen any I haven't been able to see much from them, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.200 So it's gonna be tough. I mean, do you go 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.520 with the guy that you haven't really played just yet, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.480 or do you go back to what you already know? 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.920 It's like pick pick with your poison. Which one do 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.320 you prefer? Do you take a risk and plug the 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.680 new guy in and just see how it works, or 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.280 do you go back to the chance of hoping that 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.240 Steel just plays a little bit better than he's done 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.920 in the previous games. But as of right now, and 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.080 that's a tough question, I really don't know. I see 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:08.280 every possibility as a something that could happen, because we've 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.200 seen that McCarthy is not afraid to plug a guy in. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.480 And it doesn't matter if like, oh, this was the 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.760 starter last week. He doesn't care. He's gonna suit it 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.640 up if he needs too. Dave, don't sell yourself short Amber. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.840 You like to think that the Cowboys know better than you, 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.920 But everybody in America wanted Brandon Knight at right tackle 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.080 last week, and they went with Terren Steele, and they 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:38.600 admitted they were wrong after about fifteen snaps. I don't. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.360 I mean, it's impossible to predict who plays right tackle 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.680 unless you're allowed at practice, which we are not. It'll 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.240 be I think, I do think they're going to try 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.440 to stick with an actual tackle at tackle for as 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.560 long as possible. It might be Steel, it might be 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.840 Jordan Mills, it might be Greg snot. I I don't 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.520 have a feeling. I know for a fact that they've 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.040 tried all three, like all three of them are are 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.720 getting reps. I think they're gonna try one of them, 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.760 and Zach is going to be your your break glass 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.400 in case of emergency. And if that happens, you probably 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.640 plug Connor McGovern in at right guards since Joe Looney's hurt. So, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.520 I mean, I don't know who will get the start, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.200 but I would guess they're going to try to stick 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.280 with the tackle. It's amazing that you're going into this 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:26.440 game and there's four legitimate options to play right tackle, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.520 three of them that day, you know, just mentioned and 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.040 I didn't even throw Jordan Mills out there, who's played 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.600 the most of anybody. He played for the Bills, and 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.800 you know, he was actually here for like a few 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.360 hours back. I don't remember what year. Nobody remembered him 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.720 except for Rob Phillips, who remembers everything, and he did remember. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.320 I think it was twenty fifteen, but yeah, yeah, which 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.440 is the year that everyone tried to forget. But I 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.440 just think that there's so many options there, and ye, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.520 Dave said it best. These are the three and then 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.120 because it is a Rob Peter to pay Paul type situation, 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.239 if you move Zach Martin out to tackle, and then 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:05.960 you have the guard because now you're gonna put a 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.399 guard in there that's never played. So yeah, I mean 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:15.760 you look at Georgian question. But yeah, I was gonna 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.080 ask whatever happened to Ron Leary. I know he came 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.680 in and was looked at and all that, but I 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:26.000 never heard anything actually happening with that is them you 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.119 know where. I know you weren't necessarily looking for a guard, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.399 but at the same time, if you think of moving 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.840 side Martin maybe to the tackle position, maybe Leary is 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.000 an option by guard. Yeah, I mean, I really don't 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.159 know why it broke down. I don't know if it 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.760 was money, if it was not a good fit, if 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.960 it wasn't in good shape. I might have just been 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:49.800 time and they were like, right now, we'll hole still 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.639 and we know that that's in our back pocket, and 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.199 maybe now they got to go to their back Well, okay, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.760 they are going to do this, and this isn't their 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.280 back pocket, this is a side pocket. I guess I 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:05.639 don't know, but they're gonna bring Adam Redman, and I 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.320 wish I could see the look I get Derek here. No, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.480 look yeah, side probably not. He's been here, he's easy, 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.520 he's played, he's played different positions. I think he's actually 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.119 played some center. I think he's center guard. Yeah, so 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.480 you know it's it's more of a backup. I mean, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.520 I think he's here. But of course, now you know 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.160 you have to you have to be on the radar 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.320 for two months before you can get something. I mean, no, 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.399 it's six days. But I think I think he's going 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.800 to be in the COVID protocol for to to get 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.720 you know, take the test, so he can be ready, 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:36.960 ready to play. I mean at this point, when I 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.159 look at this team, I'm I'm just like, Okay, you 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.080 got a guy like Jordan Mills who has played a lot, Yeah, 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.080 and on an offensive line where that's a premium. Right now, 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.560 I would personally say throw Jordan Mills out there. If 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.720 you want to keep if you want to keep Zach 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.280 where he is, and you don't want to create you 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.399 want to create as little extra movement as possible, I 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.800 think you go with Brandon Knight at left tackle, and 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.639 I think you put Jordan Mills in there at right 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:01.840 tackle and see how that goes. If something should fall 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.320 apart and it doesn't work, then I would not have 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.960 a slightest hesitation in moving Zach Martin. And then let's 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.960 see what this guy who you had a second round 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.480 grade in com McGovern what can he do a guard? 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:14.840 I just want to see you. I know that they 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:16.359 may be seeing him every day in practice. I just 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.240 want to see what can he do? Also real quick? 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.359 I know we go to break, but cam Irving is 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.119 also going to mix into this. Not this week, but 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.560 it sounds like next week he could be there as well. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.479 But again, again cam Irving, the same cam Irving who 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.359 the Cowboys decided Terrence Steele should play out exactly right 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.080 over him. Yeah, all right, so we're gonna take our 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.000 first break. When we come back, let's talk about Cowboys 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.080 versus Giants. Will hit the offense, we'll hit the defense. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.439 May even have a question on special teams. We'll talk 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.320 about that when we come right back this Dallas Cowboys 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:45.160 dot Com Radio. We're back in a tasty treat that's 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.600 sweeping airwaves and taste buds. 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